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Cards split series with Padres, deadline decisions are looming · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Well, the Cardinals had their chance to take the series
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: from the San Diego Padres, they were not able to
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: do so. After winning the first two games of the series,
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: they lose the final two, including today a nine to
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  Speaker 1: two clunker. Michael McGreevey didn't have it from the start
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: and the results soon followed. So the Cardinals are back
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  Speaker 1: to fifty four and fifty three, one game over five hundred.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: The trade deadline is like what seven ninety six hours away?
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: The direction to me is obvious, but we will see
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  Speaker 1: what John Mozelak does just to what degree the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: sell right now though, just another disappointing series for the Cardinals.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cardinal territory, Katie and Bernie here on
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: your Sunday recap. Bernie, you have some thoughts about what
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: we saw today from McGreevy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I do, but first I want to throw this
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  Speaker 2: out there. You know, it was pretty cool the way the.
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals one of the first two games of the series,
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  Speaker 3: and it didn't really change.
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  Speaker 2: My overall view that.
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: You know, this team's got too many problems to win
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  Speaker 3: a wild card spot, even though the teams in front
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  Speaker 3: of them other than Cincinnati haven't been playing all that. Well,
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  Speaker 3: but the Cardinals got some we'll talk about this, like
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  Speaker 3: really serious flaws and areas that are really really important
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  Speaker 3: and so but I was I couldn't I couldn't help
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  Speaker 3: but think though, you know, especially when Miles michaelis dodgs
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  Speaker 3: to like, you know, thirty nine thirty nine hits or something,
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  Speaker 3: you know, But no, it's like a weird game Friday night.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember thinking, well, I was thinking, it's like, well,
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: you know, this is kind of interesting. Suppose these guys
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: like sweep this series or even win three out of four.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm, maybe they'll make it tough on.
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  Speaker 3: Mo or they'll give them something more to think about.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it's just so typical Cardinals. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're so erratic and so inconcended. So they win the
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  Speaker 3: first two games in the series. Good for them, seriously,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm sorry. You know, you gotta win. You got
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  Speaker 3: to win one of those final two games. You gotta
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  Speaker 3: win the series if you want to jet the President
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  Speaker 3: of Baseball Operations to step up for you. If you're
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  Speaker 3: if if this is like in other words, if the
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals are making the people in the clubhouse are making
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  Speaker 3: their closing arguments, Hey, don't give up on us.
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  Speaker 2: This is why don't give up on us. Here's why.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was a pretty bad closing argument, you know,
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  Speaker 3: by losing those two games. So anyway, I didn't mean
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  Speaker 3: to get off course, but it is related. Now. I
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  Speaker 3: was disappointed Michael McGreevy and listen, I think he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a good back end starter for the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: I like everything about him, But.
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  Speaker 3: There was a little bit of reality there today because again,
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  Speaker 3: it's not a guy that is going to roll up strikeouts.
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  Speaker 3: So the ball is going to be in play a lot,
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  Speaker 3: and so if he's missing his spots or he's behind
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  Speaker 3: in the count and he sort of has to come in,
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  Speaker 3: he can't really pitch around guys, although he did have
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity to do that a little bit with Matchato today.
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  Speaker 3: But the point is that's what happens when you have
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  Speaker 3: a staff other than Sonny Gray, where you just don't
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  Speaker 3: have a ton of swing and mister strikeouts, you're vulnerable,
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  Speaker 3: and like we saw him vulnerable today. But I also
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  Speaker 3: got to tip the cap to the Padres hitters because
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  Speaker 3: their stars were excellent.
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  Speaker 2: In the final two games.
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  Speaker 3: Talking with we're talking about Tatisa Array we're talking about Machado.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you look at what they did the
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  Speaker 3: last two games in the series, they were fifteen for
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  Speaker 3: fifty one. But if you look at what they did
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  Speaker 3: the last two games in the two wins, those three
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  Speaker 3: guys thirteen for twenty four or five RBIs five run scored.
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  Speaker 3: So as much as I you know, don't, I just
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  Speaker 3: don't want to be too tough on McCreevy. He's just
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  Speaker 3: getting started. But I also think this game, the last
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  Speaker 3: two nights showed us something you and I Ktie have
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  Speaker 3: talked about a lot, and this final thing I'll say
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  Speaker 3: here then I'll shut up. The Padres have stars. Even
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  Speaker 3: though their offense has struggled, right, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: It has struggled, But it's about other people in the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: They have stars. And when the chips are down, as
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  Speaker 3: we saw this weekend, and the Cardinals learn, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to hold them down. You know you're
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  Speaker 3: not going to keep uh Tatise and man Shadow and arrays,
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  Speaker 3: you know, from doing serious damage when San Diego's got
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  Speaker 3: to win two games to least tie that series. So
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  Speaker 3: we saw the difference that star power can make. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that was another takeaway from the series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we've we beat this too. We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it so often, just the lack of star power
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  Speaker 1: from the Cardinals, and it's it's true. You go out
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  Speaker 1: there and you know you have Nolan Arnatto whose decline
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  Speaker 1: has been steady. Wilson Contreras is probably the household name
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  Speaker 1: of this franchise at this point. But it's not like
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  Speaker 1: it's a star sutted roster. It's the exact opposite. And
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  Speaker 1: that was the design of this season. You're not going
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  Speaker 1: to go out and stack your roster with free agents
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  Speaker 1: signings that because that's not what the Cardinals elected to
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  Speaker 1: do or said they were going to do it at the
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  Speaker 1: start of the season. I will say, not a good
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  Speaker 1: day for Michael McGreevy for INDs nine hits, seven in
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  Speaker 1: runs just to strikeouts. And I think Michael McGreevey is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a sturdy middle of the rotation option.
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  Speaker 1: But he is the prototype, the typical Cardinal prototype of
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  Speaker 1: pitch to contact. And we have seen, specifically over the
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  Speaker 1: second half of June and all of July, the detriments
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  Speaker 1: of having a fully pitched to contact staff outside of
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  Speaker 1: sunny Gray. So some days are going to look like
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  Speaker 1: this for Michael McGreevy. The key for him going forward
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  Speaker 1: is a limiting it so it's not as continuous as
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  Speaker 1: it was for Eric Fetti, as it sometimes is for
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  Speaker 1: Miles Michaelis and for Andre Pilante. I liked what McGreevy
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  Speaker 1: said after the game. He said, straight up, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: good today. Getting first two strikes on Tatis was great,
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  Speaker 1: and then walking him to start the game was unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: That just can't happen. And I thought that was really
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  Speaker 1: refreshing to just off the bat with you, without us
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  Speaker 1: really even having to dive into these questions. Him just
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  Speaker 1: say yeah, I can't do that. I can't do that
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  Speaker 1: as a pitch to contact guy. I can't be walking
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  Speaker 1: guys to start the game. So no, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of swing and miss, just like most of
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  Speaker 1: the rotation. He's not going to blow guys doors away,
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  Speaker 1: but he understands how he needs to be successful at
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  Speaker 1: this level based on the type of picture that he is,
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  Speaker 1: and that gives me a little bit more confidence going forward. Again,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have days that look like this from
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  Speaker 1: a greedy I'm willing to throw out the Colorado start
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  Speaker 1: because it's Colorado and it's just weird, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But how he handles things and his mentality I think
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  Speaker 1: is a refreshing approach and I'm interested to see how
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  Speaker 1: that develops over the next two months of the season,
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  Speaker 1: because we're going to see him the next two months
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  Speaker 1: of the season finally.
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  Speaker 3: Right, And so it's so tough for me anyway to
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: project where any of these guys fit in next season.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you, I think he'll go in his spring, Well,
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  Speaker 3: he'll go into the off season. I would think, barring
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  Speaker 3: some kind of injury, he'll go into the off season,
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  Speaker 3: you know, with tentative leaves one of their starting pitchers
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  Speaker 3: next season.
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  Speaker 2: And the only reason I.
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  Speaker 3: Hesitate at all, and I'm probably being overly thorough where
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  Speaker 3: I want to think about every possibility. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: who knows what made transfire over the winner. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if they can make a trade where they even at
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  Speaker 3: this trade deadline, you know, some kind of trade that
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  Speaker 3: involves multiple players with the Cardinals get a young starting
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  Speaker 3: pitcher with term left you never know, I mean, Quinn
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  Speaker 3: Matthews should be ready next season, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the kid they drafted out of Tennessee. You know, he's
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  Speaker 3: he's going to be on a fast track.
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  Speaker 2: Roby might figure into this.
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  Speaker 3: So it's going to be interesting to see how they
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  Speaker 3: line up next year because we don't know who exactly
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  Speaker 3: will be ready or who or who they may add.
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  Speaker 3: So I do think mcgreevy's in their plans, and certainly
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  Speaker 3: nothing that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Today would get me to say, oh, not so sure.
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  Speaker 3: Now if this happens over and over again, then I
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  Speaker 3: think we you know, we have to, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 3: have to take a little bit of a step back.
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  Speaker 3: One of the appeals of McGreevy is that the little
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  Speaker 3: that he pitched he was very, very, very good, but
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  Speaker 3: he also benefited from the comparisons frankly to Ed and
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  Speaker 3: michaelis right, because when everyone's pretty much everyone's like, this
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  Speaker 3: is ridiculous, these two guys, how are they still in
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  Speaker 3: the rotation? Well, I think that that kind of takes
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  Speaker 3: McGreevy and maybe elevates him in the fans mind, maybe
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  Speaker 3: the media mind too. It sort of elevates him to
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  Speaker 3: a level of prominence that he hasn't quite earned yet,
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  Speaker 3: just by.
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  Speaker 2: Comparison, right, So I totally get that. Yeah, So but I.
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  Speaker 3: Know I really like him a lot for the reasons
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  Speaker 3: the qualities that you just talked about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see, and this is the whole point
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  Speaker 1: of the season, finally from Aggrievy, at least to see
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  Speaker 1: what he has, how he responds. As the Cardinals presumably
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  Speaker 1: shift to sellers and the next two months of the
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: season look a lot different in terms of competing, these
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  Speaker 1: outings won't mean I don't want to say, they won't
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  Speaker 1: mean as much, but they won't be evaluated as harshly
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  Speaker 1: because once the Cardinals sell, and we'll get to this,
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to be a complete buyer sale. But
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  Speaker 1: once you shift to sellers and your next two months
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  Speaker 1: of the season are defined, it gets much more, much
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  Speaker 1: easier just to evaluate players on a performance basis individually.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. A little game we've been
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  Speaker 1: playing upstairs is who well the first cardinal? Who will
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  Speaker 1: be the first cardinal traded at the deadline. We know
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  Speaker 1: that John Mozeylak has called some rival teams and let
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  Speaker 1: him know he's listening on believers, Ryan Helsley, Phil Maton,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Mattz, Jojo Romero, Bernie. A nice call by you
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  Speaker 1: is garnering a ton of interest from contending teams because
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  Speaker 1: he has an extra year of control. Bernie, who is
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  Speaker 1: the first Cardinal to be traded? Or let's let's make
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit more vague, who's the most likely
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  Speaker 1: to be traded for the Cardinals?
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  Speaker 2: Fear Well?
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  Speaker 3: I think a certain baseball reporter at the Athletic had
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  Speaker 3: something about how it would be the most likely Cardinal
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  Speaker 3: to be traded would be Phil Mayton. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know who that reporter is, uh, I forget.
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  Speaker 2: Who that was.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. If Mayton gets traded, she
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  Speaker 1: sounds really smart. If he doesn't, Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, Catherine some So Catherine somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Katie Woo. No, I'm just teasing, of course. No,
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I think I think a
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: deal with him would be easier to make. And the
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  Speaker 3: and the why, I'm why why I went with him,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe for the same reason you identified him, and
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  Speaker 3: you identified him first as the most likely, but I
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's because I think the hell'sley thing.
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  Speaker 3: If there is as much interest in as him as
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  Speaker 3: we assume, I think Mo will be able to leverage that,
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  Speaker 3: and it's one of those things that will probably go
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  Speaker 3: down to the last day, in.
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  Speaker 2: The last hours, because you're gonna have all the teams.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to get a closer, you know, a straight
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  Speaker 3: up closer like this, and there are there will be
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  Speaker 3: There will.
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  Speaker 2: Be two or three on the market. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: he's the only one.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the Hellsley deal is a little trickier
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  Speaker 3: because the Cardinals are going to hold up hold out
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  Speaker 3: for a big price. So yeah, that's what I and
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  Speaker 3: I I would who knows, Matt's could be the first
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  Speaker 3: one to go, but it's all the attention is going
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  Speaker 3: to be on those guys for sure. But I think
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  Speaker 3: the other two would go before Helsy.
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  Speaker 2: I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I think may Toon is so interesting and I wrote
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  Speaker 1: about this in The Athletic. He is every contender's ideal
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: reliever dream. He has two months of control, He's thirty
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: two years old, He's been in the league for almost
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  Speaker 1: ten years. He's pitched in the postseason every season dating
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  Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty one. He has all the experience.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at Mayton's stackcast page on Baseball Savon,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a NERD's dream. Everything is read except for
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  Speaker 1: fastball below, which is like as blue as it could be.
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  Speaker 1: And despite having virtually no velocity, he's still one of
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: the most effective setup men in the game. So he
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: has all these traits that contending teams really like when
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: you're looking to upgrade your bullpen. Those seventh inn eighth
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  Speaker 1: inning guys make or break playoff teams. And Phil Maton
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: has the pedigree of a veteran picture of an experience
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  Speaker 1: pitcher post. He's an experience matters. He's been traded at
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: the deadline before I think three times in his career,
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  Speaker 1: so he has all the experience. This won't be a
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: new experience for him. The adjustment won't be difficult. He doesn't. Also,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: if you know Phil Maton at all, he's pretty like whatever,
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: pretty straight up, so not a super overly emotional guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's just he's a winning reliever that's going to make
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  Speaker 1: a contending team better. There's going to be a market
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  Speaker 1: for him. He doesn't have like really any money owned.
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  Speaker 1: He's signed a two million dollar deal in March. So
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  Speaker 1: all of these these things, to your point, Bernie, make
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  Speaker 1: him easier to move than Hellsley. I still think Helsley's
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  Speaker 1: going to go, but I think, like you said, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be kind of down to the wire the
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  Speaker 1: last you know, maybe right before the deadline. There is
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: there's a ton of interest in Ryan Helsley, but it's
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: going to be easier to move Phil Mayton. I hope
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: that Phil Mayton goes out there and has a chance
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  Speaker 1: to be on a competitive team for the next two months.
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  Speaker 1: I really do. And then I hope the Cards bring
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  Speaker 1: him back because he has been a really good piece
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  Speaker 1: here for this club.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you a question, and because you
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  Speaker 3: you wrote a story, uh talking to Hellsley, and it
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 2: Naturally, I saw.
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  Speaker 3: The No, these aggregator sites were just like all just
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: all over the place, insider.
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  Speaker 2: Says, you know, Ryan, I don't, but you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I just love that everybody. It's like it's the the
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  Speaker 3: locusts comes swarming, you know. Anyway, No, I found it
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  Speaker 3: interesting that he you know, you interviewed him and his
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  Speaker 3: quotes that he thought it was what did he say,
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  Speaker 3: ninety percent He'll go. I was a little surprised by that.
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  Speaker 3: But let me ask you, and you know, you're you don't.
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  Speaker 3: You're not working in uh, you know, you're not in
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  Speaker 3: the meetings with Moan on them. But do you think
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: there's do you think there's more of a chance that
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  Speaker 3: he'll still be a cardinal? I just want to know
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  Speaker 3: how you view it. Putting his quotes or his comments aside, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: do you think they're gonna have hard I still don't
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  Speaker 3: trust them to make the right decision. I still think
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  Speaker 3: I still think they'll get all. You know, their heart
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  Speaker 3: will go a flutter. Oh it's our guy, you know,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I hope they don't do that because
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: that that is, uh, that is fraught with risk. And
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  Speaker 3: I understand the qualifying offer thing. But the one thing
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  Speaker 3: I would say is high is high bloom? You know,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: really want to give Ryan Helsley, who very well, maybe
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: in decline, not to the point where he's going to
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  Speaker 3: go off the cliff. Does he really want to give him, like, say,
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  Speaker 3: twenty one million next season? That that doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 3: be like something he would want to do.
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  Speaker 2: I could again, I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, right.
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  Speaker 2: So, so the worst thing that you do is is
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  Speaker 2: ride it out with him. It's like what's the point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's no disrespect.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's no disrespect to Ryan helsley Man. But what
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  Speaker 3: would be the point. There's no point in it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it would just be the final opportunity to cast him in.
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  Speaker 3: And he is an asset, and then you can't just
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  Speaker 3: like blow it again, right, you just can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: He does. And you know, I thought he was going
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: to be the first to go over the off season,
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: and so did he. I mean multiple times he said
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: this over the off season. He set it going through arbitration,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: He said it coming into spring training that he thought
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: he was going to be traded, and so did everyone
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  Speaker 1: else in the industry. That the Cardinals did not move
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Hellsley in November when he was at his top value
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  Speaker 1: still baffles most rival ex executives. Just in my conversations
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: around the industry, they still are so confused as to
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: why that move was not made. And we know what
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals rationale was. They wanted to compete, and to
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  Speaker 1: their credit, they did compete for most of the first half,
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  Speaker 1: and the rotation exploded and the offense took a nose dive.
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  Speaker 1: And here we are, But Hellesley has been dealing with
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: trade rumors and the expectation that he is going to
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: be traded for now almost nine months, so he's used
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to it, and he was like, this is as high
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: as it's ever been. I was pretty convinced I was
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: going to go in the off season. Now I'm really
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: convinced I'm going to go. It's just a matter of time,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: and the demand will be high. Like you said, there
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: are not that many closers. There are a couple, but
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: a true ninth inning flamethrower with one of the best
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: fastballs in baseball is going to command a big return
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and the Cardinals know that. That's why I think Hellesley
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: is going to wait. John Mosellac is notorious for pulling
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: off a deadline deal at the Buzzer. He does this
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: every year. It's a very stressful time because just when
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: you think they're done, because trades can still come in
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: after the deadline. They just have to be agreed to
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: before that deadline. So sometimes you know you'll get a
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: deadline trade that comes through like five thirty PM, even
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: the deadline is five Anyway.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: What do you what do you think? If you don't
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: mind me asking you a question, what do you think?
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Who's the most likely. Let's expand this. I like the thing,
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: who's the most likely reliever to go first? I'll change
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: it this question a little bit. Do you think what
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: are the chances a position player gets traded? And like,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: who do you think would be the most likely positioned
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: player to be traded?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: And you know, there's all, yeah, what do you think?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I like this question, And I'll preface this. I know
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: that we have been put out putting out a lot
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: of reports about the Dodgers' interest in Brendan Donovan. That's legit,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that's real. They want him. Of course, teams want Brendan Donovan.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you. He's a winning player. But teams can
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: have interest all they want. It doesn't matter if the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: other team has no interest in training with them. Now,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Cardinals have zero interest in training
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Brennan Donovan. I am saying that return is going to
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: have to be colossal. They are rightfully asking for a lot,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: which means the likely of any Donovan deal being traded
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: remains remarkably slim. The only reason we're going to still
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: keep bringing this up is because we know the Dodgers
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: are in play, and you can't count the Dodgers out
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: from anything, and they're one of the rare teams that
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: have a ton of pieces of the Cardinals could be
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: interested in as they move towards the future. I don't
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: want to bring this into a debate as if the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Cardinals should trade Donovan or should not. I don't want
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: them to, but I understand why from a business standpoint
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: that would be the case. I don't think they're going to.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Cardinals, as we sit here on
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: July twenty seventh, one game over five hundred, still have
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: not definitively declared a decision, are going to do a
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: big fire sale. I think they're going to offload the
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: guys that are rentals that are on expiring deals. Maybe
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: you're listening on Jojo Romero because he has some value,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: But the position players that have garnered the most interest
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: are Donovan, Herrera, Burlason, and now bar and I don't
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: see now as the time to trade them. We could
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: have entirely different conversations in the off season about those
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: four guys, but I would give the Cardinals trading a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: key position player before July thirty first. Those are really
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: slim ods for me. Bernie.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I would agree with you that they're slim odds. But
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I'll say this.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, Bernie. Sure, the Sandluis Cardinals have traded
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Eric Fetty to the Braves in exchange for cash considerations
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: or a player to be named later. So Eric Fetty
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: finds a home. Atlanta transfers Grant home to the sixty
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: day injured list. He's a brave all right, breaking good
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: for him, Okay.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I mean I hope he because he's a fine fellow.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I hope he good.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Great dude handled what was a very trying eight weeks
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of his career with absolute class and professionalism. And I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: appreciate that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, much respect to him. No, Okay, I'll say this,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I would say, you know, I would if I had
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: a handicap, I'd say I'd be really really surprised if
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: they trade Brendan Donovan. But I will I'll go I'm
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: going to have a different take on this. But I've
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: been thinking about it a lot this weekend. It's because
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: you know, they have like Gray would be, even though
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: he's been slumping lately, where there'd be a lot, a
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: ton of interes in Gray if they could just trade
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: him and then no trade things, wasn't there, sat I
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: think there's teams looking for right handed bats all over
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the place, so contrarists there'd be a market for him,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: especially the way he's playing first base. There's no doubt
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: in my mind. So but let's take the no trade
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: clause guys out of this. And I'm looking at him like, well,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: for a team that thinks that can win a World
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Series in the next two or three years, and a
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: team that knows if you get Brennan Donovan, you get
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the rest of this year and then you got two
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: more years of control before he becomes a free agent. Right,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: And I look at Brendan Donovan and see the thing,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna feel like such a horrible, horrible person here.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna feel like a really bad guy. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: think he's a really good player. I love him like
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: he's probably my favorite guy to watch. But that has
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with whether they should trade him or not.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: My point being I've been around in Saint Louis a
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: long time and here I go again. Sounded like the
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: old you old know it all, And I don't mean to.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I think because the lack of star power with the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Cardinals the way it's the gender. It's just kind of regressed,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: you know, with the previous regime and all those that
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: previous era, all the stars they had, it was unbelievable,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: and now it's going to the opposite extreme where they
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: don't have like one really big star. They have some
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: really good dudes, but not that one and a huge star.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I think there's always been a tendency in this market.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I think it starts with the Cardinals themselves in a
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: situation like this, where Brendan Donovan is someone that the
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: fans love, he's popular with the media, he's respected by
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the media because the way he plays. I think we
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: overrate guys like that. I think we overrate guys like this,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and I understand why. I just explained why. You know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: but if someone wants to quote overpay, and I don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: know how I would define overpay, that's the point.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: We don't know. If someone wants him bad enough in.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Is we're really really willing to pony up, and the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Cardinals will make a pretty big ask and they say yes,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I think you've got to seriously consider it. You know why,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: There's a guy named Weatherholt who's going to be playing
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: second base and he's he's you could plug him in
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: right now, really, and I know they could move down
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: him into left field.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I get all that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I do. I'm just saying, let's be careful not to
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: overrate him. And that's that's not directed to you or
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: anyone else in the media or me. That's more that's
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: directed more to the Cardinals than anybody, because they're the
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: one who makes a decision. Don't overrate him, don't worry
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: about well if we trade him, boy, the fans.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Are going to be The fans are already mad. Okay,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: there were this game. I know so, but do you
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: see my point.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: It's like I'm just saying, hey, listen, nobody, no one
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: should be untouchable other than JJ weatherhold you know, no
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: one should be untouchable, period.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I agree. And the Cardinals have had a really rough
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: time in evaluating their own internal talent. They're in house
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: player development model is completely outdated. Player evaluation model, excuse me,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and it leads to them holding onto players far past
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: their prime. Dylan Carlson, Tyler O'Neill come to mind. Just
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: when you have an opportunity to move someone at their peak.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could even throw Ryan Helsley. Good teams
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: move on that, but they have two A faults been
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: stubborn on moving their own guys. And I would hate
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to see Brendan Donvan go. I think he's a player
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you build around. I think he's a winning player. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: don't think he's the star or the face of the franchise,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but I think he's an instrumental piece of this club
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: going forward. But if Heim Bloom thinks the Cardinals are
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: two three years away from contending and Brendan Donovan has
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: two years of arbitration remaining before he's a free agent,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: those timelines don't match up with me. And if you
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: can get a haul for Brendan Donovan right now, I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: understand from a business perspective why you would do that.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: You got to give it a hard really got to
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: move no, you really really got to think about it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: May if they got every if they said well here's
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: what it's going to take and the other team said okay,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: but then you got to go okay, deal.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: You just got to do it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: If everything you ask they say yes, what's the point
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: of asking them if you're not.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Going to agree to it. If they give you everything.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: You ask for, and I will say this, and I
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: don't think this is influencing me. I really don't, but
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I was just like looking, and if you throw in
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: today's game, like his last thirty three games, he's hitting
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: around two seventeen to eighteen. His own base percentage, he's
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: under three hundred. So the only reason I bring that
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: up it's because something you just said.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe when a player has been at his best and
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: then maybe there's some signs that his best is not
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: going to hold up over time, and you see signs
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: where maybe, okay, he kind of hit his he kind
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: of hit his peak this season, and he really hasn't
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: been all that good the last month month, five weeks.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is that if someone blows us away.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Who knows, maybe this time we should get ahead of
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the curve a little bit rather than waiting too long.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: So I have all these ideas in my head. Some
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: of them probably don't make sense. Some of them do
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: make sense, But I'm just saying, don't you can't say
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: no to anything. If you're the Cardinals, You've got to
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: collect as much talent as you can.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: You can't and we'll see if that actually is how
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: things go down. Come July thirty. First, we got to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: get to our Draft Kings segment. We've got a couple
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: players to watch in this upcoming series against the Miami Marlins.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Let's get to it all right. Our Draft Kings player
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  Speaker 1: to player spotlight powered by DraftKings did not do that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: intro right. A lot of multitasking involved on this one.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I want to show you about Bernie again. I think
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you were spot on on why on teams being intrigued
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: by Jojo Romero. Let's look at Jojo Romero's stats real quick,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and we know how to start this season started for him.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Many of us clamoring for him to be to go
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: back to Memphis. But overall, forty games to twelve bra
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: thirty four strikeouts and thirty four innings. Uh, just pretty
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: strong from the left side. And I think Jojo Romero,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: who has one more year left before he's a free agent,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: so one year remaining of team control will be I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: like how the Cardinals just now announced that trade for
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Eric Fetti. The Braves announced it like fifteen minutes ago.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you. So he's he's a weapon for
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: me for a contending club, and he's interesting because he's
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: one of those relievers the rare relievers the Cardinals are
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: listening on. That's not a rental. And I wonder if
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a team like the Padres or a team like the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Dodgers who is looking for relief help, would be interested
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: in a Jojo Romero. What do you think?
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Listen?
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I I'm not saying this to pat myself on the back,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: but I've been.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: But I've been on this for about two or three
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: weeks because the reason why is because Jojo Romero got
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: off to such a terrible start.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: There's an assumption that, Okay, well, you know, he's all right,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: he's not bad, he's pretty good, that kind of thing.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: But there was some just some problems he had last year,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and then the problems he had most of April this year.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: You know, you're you kind of like I think.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna speak for myself. I didn't realize
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: just how great he's been. So let's go back to
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: starting April to twenty seventh. Right, He's made twenty nine
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: relief appearances.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: He's got a.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Zero point three six ERA, and he's in terms of
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: inherited runners, he's inherited fifteen.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: None of them have scored. Now, I mean a zero point.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Thirty sixty ra since April to twenty seventh and fifteenth
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: for fifteen and preventing runners from scoring. He's also you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: he's death on left handed hitters.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: He's good. He can get you a couple of right
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: handed hitters out.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, and you got to you got a season
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: of contract control left. I mean to me, he may
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: be as valuable as a guy like Helsley because he's
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: not going.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: To be a free agent after the season. So and
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I think a year.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Of control is a big, big deal with some teams
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: because it's such a bonus. So I gotta believe there's
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: gonna be in Well, you even said, there's a lot
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: of interests been building on him and.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: They they got to move him too. They just have
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to do it if because they may they may.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: If you if you had told me or you or
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: anybody like when he was in the throes of just
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: getting battered in April, well they're going to trade him
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: at the end of July and they're going to get
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: this awesome package. People would say, dude, do that are
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: you okay? Do you need to go get a check
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: up or so what are you talking about? But he's
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: been that dominant, So I think he's one of the
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: more intriguing pieces, not just from the Cardinals, I think
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: anywhere in baseball, for all these teams looking for believers.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I agree. I would be surprised if Romeo was not moved.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: And the Cardinals do have some leverage. Like we said,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the Javasay look is in excuse me, it is in
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: no rush to to sell because he doesn't have to.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: He has the leverage here. Contending teams want relievers. Moe
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: has the power here. Now it's on him to actually
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: swing the right deals so that will benefit the future
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of the club. So if you want to be skeptical
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: about that, I won't fight you on it. But Jojo
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Romero is a guy that could bring you a little
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: bit of a better return package because of that added
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: year of control. Bertie, I know our games are over
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: today for Sunday's game, but do you have anything to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: look forward to for your lines for pick six tomorrow?
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Here's the deal.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: They it's tough to do it the way I'd like
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to do it on a Sunday because they don't DraftKings.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And this is true of everyone, but DraftKings.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: They're not going to post the lines for Monday's game
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: until tomorrow morning sometime, and then throughout the day they'll
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: update it. So I want to make this perfectly clear.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to go to
• 29:01
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• 29:05
  Speaker 3: that you'll find it, and you'll have to look at
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: the menu tomorrow and if you see one that says
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: five point five five and a half plus strikeouts like
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: in other words, the wager on the fantasy wager is basically,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: you think Daniel Cabrera is pitching for the Marlins tomorrow,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that he'll get more than five and a half strikeouts,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: which means he's got to strike out at last at
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: least six.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Right, then you would go higher.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: You would go you know, higher, you would go over whatever,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: whatever terminology you want to use, but so you would
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: you would go with him to exceed that. If you think, well,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals haven't been striking out a lot or whatever,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: or he's due for a bad start. You know, I
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: think he'll strike out five instead of six. So you'll
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: have to look at that, but make sure you check
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: that line tomorrow. I'm assuming it's going to be around
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: five and a half, and I'm just looking Cabrera like
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: his last you know, seven or eight starts. You know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: he's been striking out people left and right, and he's
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: hit six strikeouts in just about every one of them.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I think he might have had one there where.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It was five.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: So my point is, you know, he's got a chance
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: to do that, and I would be taking a hard
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: look at that if in fact it is going to
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: be five point five strikeouts going above that?
• 30:27
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  Speaker 1: All right, Bernie, take it away.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say I had a for as
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  Speaker 3: far as DraftKings, you know, a couple of weekends ago
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I did. Okay, it was just a modest little play.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I bet.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I picked three three people and they all came through, right,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and so on A ten dollars better made like ninety dollars.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So that's an example. Listen, And I'm an honest guy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. Oh Katie, it's no problem. You know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I've got a thousand in this now. But if you
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: do some numbers on it, and it's easy to do
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: because that DraftKings app, all you gotta do is click
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: on a player if you're interested in what whether he
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: can get more than one and a half total bases
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: or something like that. DraftKings gives you the info of
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: like his trends, like his game logs in the last seven,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: eight nine, so you can see the way he's been trending.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: So they give you good information anyway, I love DraftKings
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: and so I just wanted to throw that in there.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: There you go, There you have it, Bernier. I noticed
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: before we wrap this one up that you're wearing a
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Foul Territory hat.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: So for those of you on YouTube you can tell
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: it's a fine hat, very cute, very aesthetic. For those
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: of you on the podcast, I guess you'll have to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: buy one and to see it. And I have some
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: fun news for Cardinal Territory supporters. Our Cardinal Territory Shop
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: is officially open, so we have our own merchandise available.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I'm super excited that shop opened today this morning. We
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: have shirts, bags, coffee mugs, stickers, backpacks, purses, We'll have
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: hats very soon. So our Cardinal Territory Shop officially open.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Go buy some merch The official store name is Cardinal
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Territoryshop dot com, so very easy to remember. We'll have
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a lot more information on that in the next week.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Might even do a giveaway. I love a giveaway, so
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: check it out. I'm pretty excited. I'm gonna have like
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: seventeen Cardinal Territory shirts. That's all I'm gonna wear on
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: this podcast going forward. So we wanted the very first
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to have our brand new, very stylish Cardinal Territory shirts
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: merch gear out available now.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Now you got to go for a Cardinal Territory cap, though,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: don't you.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good look.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: As soon as that's I'll buy one.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good look, it really is. So I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: think you need to do that too.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Here's the one I really like. We have these Duffel
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: bags out like a gym bag almost, and they come
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: in different colors. There's white, black, and red, and it's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: already in my cart. So as a coffee mug, I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: love a coffee mug. I have like two hundred but
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: what's two hundred and one? And of course some shirts.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: We have male size, women's size, sweatshirts, crew necks, yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: a lot. I knew we were getting a shop. I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: didn't know how extensive it would be, so I was
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And log No, I love.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Caps, so I can't wait to get one of the
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Cardinal Territory caps. I'm gonna probably email someone and say, listen, man,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I need to get.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Hooked up here. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: So I think our boss Mark, I think he's actually
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: pretty cool that way because he.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Sent me this a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: You have a story shop open right now. Go check
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: it out, buy something, treat yourself. You deserve it, all, right, Bernie.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Four more days until we can put this trade deadline
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: behind us. Marlins are coming to Saint Louis, for three games.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I know it's the Marlins. No this. They are thirteen
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and eight in July. They're road splits, actually not too bad.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Twenty six and twenty four they're six and two coming
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: out of the break. And the Marlins don't do a
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: lot of things right, but they do pitch very well.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Cardinals will throw out Polonte Sunny Gray on Tuesday, Miles
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Micliss on Monday, and then off day on the trade deadlines.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: So look, I've been under the belief that the Cardinal
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: should sell ever since that disastrous road trip to Arizona
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and Colorado. I think I deserved hazard pay for having
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to sit through that. But I don't think that these
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: next couple of games should dictate their course. I hope
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: they don't, otherwise we're going to have a very spirited
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Cardinal Territory episode when the deadline is over. I think
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals will soft sell. I think it's the right
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: call to do, even if that means, you know, some
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: maybe painful baseball in the final two months of the season.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: If you're looking for the future, now is the time
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to build for it. Let's just see what the Cardinals
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: do over the next couple of days. Bernie, any parting
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: words for our viewers, Well, I.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Just you know, the Marlins are really good.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Just a very quickie here, I promise, because I wrote
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: it down just for this reason so I wouldn't be
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: fumbling around. You know. They were thirteen games under five
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: hundred back on June the thirteenth, I believe, you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: and since then they have the second best record in
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the National League. Only the Brewers have been better. You know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: So this is a really good team. In fact, I
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: would dare I say they're a better team than.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals right now.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: If no, it's it's seriously, you know, if we track
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: this back to the middle of June, Okay, the Marlins
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: have a much better record than the Cardinals, and they're
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: starting pitching is really good. The Cardinals starting pitching not
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: so good. And the Marlins actually surprised me a little
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: because they score They score more runs than I assumed
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: that they were They're a really good club right now,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: you know. They they just completely transformed since the middle
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: of June. I'm really intrigued by them.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: They may I think they have more of a wild
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: card shot than the Cardinals do. I really do. And
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: if they come here in sweep, they'll be right there.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: But they'll still sell Bernie. I mean, this is this
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: is the Miami Marlins we're talking about. They're going to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: sell the Cady. But they're competitive clubs, so I you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: it's easy to look. The Cardinals lost two or three
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: of the Rockies and we're shut out for the first time.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: The Rockies shut out a team for the first time
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: in two hundred and twenty games. Okay, so everyone is
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: a threat for the Cardinals right now. So that's a
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: good way to be optimistic about the upcoming series and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a trade deadline. Here we are Cardinal Territory. Good vibes only,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: don't forget check out our store. We'll have some episodes
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: for you next week, and of course we'll have a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: trade deadline wrap up. If we have anything newsworthy, we'll
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: have it up at the Athletic Bernie will have it
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: as I'm sure, and then we'll come here and we'll
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: break it down for you guys. It'll be a busy week,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: but hopefully we'll have some news for you shortly. For Bernie,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I M. Katie. Thanks as always for watching Cardinal Territory.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I know July has been a little bit of a
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: bummer for this team, but hopefully this has made it
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a little less worse. Thanks as always for the support.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: We will talk to you guys next week.