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Are You Gay If You Let A Man Give You Head ? · Blind But Now I See

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But we got a special guest today. I like when you introduce yourself because
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when you say it makes me feel like the Nicki Mina. I'm well,
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I see something on a real nigga show. I was gonna start with Gang
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Gang Gang, but then you know, I can also say it's your boy
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Billion back the Gold be the Kid, Bill's bills, bills, Bill's Bill's
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bills. Do you pay bills? I'm now a do it, but before
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I was king one shot deal in New York City. Give it to that
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episode. So people, this episode gonna be a very interesting episode. I
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just want to let you know I'm I mean, I'm proud, well not
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proud, like i'm your phone. I'm glad that you was able to make
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it today. I'm blessed the podcast. Plus, it's a lot of ship
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I want to talk about that. You know, Okay, that that that's
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going to help me out. But before we even get into that, who
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is Billie the Goat, Belly, the kid, Bills, Bills Bills.
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I am your delusional best friend, your toxic best friend, and I support
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all the wrong antics as in, yeah, like if you're going to make
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a bad decision, I'm going to be here support you, and then I'm
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going to judge you right after. So because why would you listen to me?
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But I'm also podcaster. My podcast is twenty five and Over Club and
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that's just a simple life in New York City, you know, and a
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lot a lot of toxic people listen to that shit. Yeah, had a
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whole girl like you're going on that toxic show or I gotta watch it's the
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show really toxic. Though it got a balance, it got his balance,
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it got his balance. But you know, I'm really big on letting people
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know, like, because I don't want to hear from a regular person saying
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this is a life you need to live. I want to know from the
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toxic person who I'm able to relate to. And I didn't realize how many
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people relate to my toxicness. So I love it. And he got a
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live show coming in August. Yes, yes, yes, tickets for that.
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But this is a segment of my show called Stories from the Dog.
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Okay, Stories from the Dog represent a time when you was in a dark
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whether your back was again ust the wall, just a crazy moment in life.
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It could be. So we're gonna close our eyes. You can't prepare
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until you all right, we gonna close our eyes. We're gonna walk down
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this path and gon flip over no furniture, when gonna bump into no tables
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or knock down no cameras because this shits very expensive. You would be paying
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for them. They gonna let Billy to go take over. So I got
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to tell you a story. Yeah, tell me a story. Oh I
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got a toxic story, and it makes me look crazy. But so once
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upon a time, picture it Miami. I was about to say, nineteen
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ninety toxic already Miami twenty eighteen nineteen twenty nineteen, Boom went to Miami with
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this nigga that I was gonna have a great time. That was gonna be
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a blast, right, yeah, you know, and it's not tricking if
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you got it. So I was like, let's book a quick trip.
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You know. I met the nigga at work or whatever. So we are
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in Do my eyes really gotta be close with this? Okay? Yes,
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as it's closed And I was like, no, what I want to experience
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it? Want to experience. Yeah, people, I'm feeling. I'm feeling
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too. So we Boom, We're going on the trip. We think we're
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vibing. The plane leaves and let's say the plane leads at twelve o'clock.
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We in the nail. Someone at nine thirty turned around. Nigga had the
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hickey on his neck. I said, ideal smeals, I didn't do that.
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Who the fuck did that? But you know what, people will have
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to tell you. But we just vibing. We just chilling. So I
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had to bite that. But let me rewind. A few days before that,
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he sent the picture because he was showing me that he was watching Beyonce
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on the Homecoming I was like, all right, no problem. Were watching
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Beyonce in the hole coming. As he showed me the picture, I zoomed
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in, He's in the bed with another nigga. Okay, no problem,
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we already got the trip planned, we already got the trip booked. Fuck
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it, let's just go. Long story. Show up me in Miami,
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be vibing, having a great time. I'm still your delusional bestie. I
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see him talking to another nigga in the corner. I said, Oh,
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okay, long story short. He linked with the nigga I was in Miami.
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I was like, you know what, I get my lip back,
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because you're not gonna come out in Miami and fuck someone. I'm not gonna
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fuck nobody. So I get my lick back. Met somebody on his APP,
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pulled Jack with the Homo thugs he was on that app. Went to
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the nigga's hotel room, got there. Nigga tried to tell me who was
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HIV undetected, But I undetected myself from that room and I love and I
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was like, no, what, I ain't fucking nobody out here. Went
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back to New York and now I'm That's the story from the doc for a
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realm who paid for the trick me? And that sounds so mad. That's
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a slap in the face. It's a slap in the fu face. You
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know what your credit card and say it wasn't you that made them. I
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said, those for those the big payments, you know, the big payments
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and those Just in case you don't know, Billy is part of the lgbt
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Q plus some community. That's why it's hard for them to exception because you
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don't want to claimab all the town because I don't agree with all the antics,
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but I support most of them. I probably support ninety percent of it.
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Well, I don't support all of it. Why not? Why not?
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I don't support all of it because just because I feel like you could
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be like somebody literally told me today and I don't know if it was an
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HR case, but somebody told me today like I loved that you like a
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regular nigga, And I was like, so what does that mean? Things
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like you're not just expressing your gay all the time, and there's different ways
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for people to express themselves, but they also know who you're in the room
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with, So I'm not going to be pushing I can't stand when gay guys
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hit on straight men like you give us a bad look, and it doesn't.
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You don't have to act a certain way, just know how to act
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when you're in a certain room with somebody. I definitely agree with that,
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because now if you punch you in your face, now you're playing the hate
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crime, and that I don't agree with. But you're not telling people how
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you try to be like ooh, Poppy, let me see your dick or
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something. Off the wall. Shit, yeah, off the wall. No,
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Michael Jackson, that was a great album by the way. Nah,
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definitely because like everybody knows, you know, it was homophobic, and I
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know the homies might be looking like the first gay person on the podcast Oh
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see you getting, I don't get no word for that. You definitely get
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the first black gay on the Let's clap it out with the Beyonce shirt off.
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Let's clapping what it's just for you. I'm not gonna represent the gates
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somehow, some way. Hell you know, I find to be the first
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black gay. Yeah, it is the first time I'm sitting down with it
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because it's like I used to be homophobic, okay, because it's like it
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was normalized of growing up like people dropping the F bomb and this, that
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and the third. So it was like it was never cool to hang out
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with the gays, or it be except except the gays around you type ship.
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I'm gonna be real with you. The niggas be hanging out with the
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gays on the lolo. I don't have to see d ls on the lolo.
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But other than the niggas hanging with the gays because they be having all
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the girls with them, that they got the batties with the fatties with them,
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and they be throwing their friends on the hombies. But that's a different
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story because I ain't gonna talk. I ain't gonna get into the toxic Billy
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always bring out that toxic vy I'm trying to do, right, Is it
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really toxic? Let's normalize toxic behaviors because it's a character racist that we all
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have, and it's toxic is equivalent to passion? Would you because you agree,
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I know, I'll be saying with him fifty five No, if you're
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not toxic, how do I know if you love me if you're not showing
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me toxic behaviors? Yes, but there's also adult toxic. I don't want
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that shit. Yeah, but I don't go through your phone behind trees and
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I go in the bathroom to try to go through my phone. If you
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want to see my phone, let me just say it no. But then
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you're not because you're gonna have time to delete what you need to do.
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Delete Like I work at a job where I get ordered it right, So
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why cannot audit your phone? But do it in front of me? Why
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you got sneaking because you're going to know what I'm looking for. I already
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know why I want to go in. I need to go into cash app
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and see who you's been sending money to. And then if I see name
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that I don't know, I could take the number from cash app or no
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if I text. If I go through your text message I see a number,
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I put the number into cash app and see if there's a face and
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see if the name pop up. And then if I see the name pop
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up, I go into Facebook and start looking we got we get answers for
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another side. And then you go on the uber. You see where the
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uber sometimes you where you uber into where they are you Uber? And people
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out like it's now I gotta tell my son to lee all my as now
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now that I know they do want to expected gadget ship. Oh it's a
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lot, It's a lot. So I heard then like gay, it wasn't
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hard growing up, like being accepted, Like your parents accepted. Hell no,
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they still don't accept it. No, my mother don't accept it,
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but she accept me for being her son. But my father he went on
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the Facebook live telling me, like telling his friends on Facebook alb, like
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my son is that F word? And he like niggas to tear his roast
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beef up. And it's just like WHOA. First of all, you don't
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have to you doing too much. And I have a gay sister, So
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I'm basically like, why is it for my sister to Why is it okay
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for my sister to be gay? Not me? And he was like,
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be cause your sister could eat pussy and go back to being straight. But
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niggas is always gonna remember you for sucking dick. And I had to explain
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to him, like, but isn't that gay of you for thinking about me
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sucking dick? Because how you know, how you know I'm fucking these niggas?
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How you know? I just don't want Yeah, So there was a
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time where I was like I don't want my child being gay, because it's
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like, hey, what you want to be gay for? You want to
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have fun? Niggas like that's ain't cool being gay and cool. But it's
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because I didn't want my child to be teased and bullied. But I definitely
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was in high school. I was junior high school. I never really came
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out as gay, but people used to be like, black, you're gay,
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and I'm like, no, I'm not black, you're gay. No
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I'm not. But I was low key gay looking at these niggas too.
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I feel like you was born in this way. Do you feel like people
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is born or it's something that just grows into you. I feel like maybe
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it was born. I was born this way. And sometimes I judge people
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for saying like born that way because it's like it's crazy. But I can't
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tell you like a trans person, I can't say, hey you, I
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can't tell you how to feel because I'm not true. But I could always
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say I was always attracted more to men that was always attracted to female.
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But I also think it probably came from when I was being sexually molested as
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a child. So when I was sucking dick as a kid at a grown
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man's dick. That's all I knew was sucking dick. So I was like,
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hey, maybe this is my life. Feel me. It was more
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it was normalized to me because it happened for so many years to where that's
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what I was accustomed to. Shit, yeah, this is the day.
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A lot of let's station going on. Trigger won if anybody triggered by it,
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my last it's definitely never good. So it's pretty much how old you
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was when you was getting molested from like I want to say, like eight
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to twelve, Like you just got to take it away? Plus, do
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you feel like it wasn't something that you It's like, do you feel like
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this life we chose, like chosen for you? The gay life? Pretty
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much again because if it's like for doing it for three or four years,
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maybe seven, I just know it was around that age frame, but doing
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it constantly for all those years, it became normal to me. It was
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like, you know, how you're taught something, you're taught certain behaviors.
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I was taught literally just dick. So what am I going to do?
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Go out in these streets and suck dick? Yo? So you don't't be
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around your father like that nah, like he I mean, he tries to
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reach out. He always wanted to tell me that he loves me because now
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he needs me now because you know, limb by limb, he's getting amputated.
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But no, he got his soul cut off, then he got his
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leg cut off, and now he just got his finger. So my raintow
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from his limb violin. Oh, man, can you forgive your father though
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I forget, like do you feel like I forget his generation? Like it
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was passed down to him to feel this way, because like, as a
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man, I have a son, right, I want my I would feel
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good saying my son walk down the streets with a woman. I feel good
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knowing that my son is out here fucking women and everything else. Like as
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a man, it was always normal, like that's my boy. You know,
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even though you feel me if my son were to be gay, I
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love him the same. What was fucked up is he got seventeen kids.
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So before me, he had yeah triny damn for me, he was yeah
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girls, girls, girls, girls, no jay z. But he had
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all these girls before me, and boom, I'm his first son and his
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first turn and sucking dick. So I had to tell him like Nigga,
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like your daughters is gay. I'm gay. Your other child is gay,
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your other daughter is gay. Nigga, is something in your jeans and maybe
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should just stop wearing jeans since it's all your fucking kids is gay. So
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out of seventeen kids, how many games, maybe four of us, but
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it's bound to happen. You got seventeen kids, Like, somebody had to
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be gaybody, and it was I had to, you know, break I
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was the first. I was his first son and he didn't like that.
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So I was his first gay son and his first son and he just wanted
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somebody to carry his name. But Nigga got other kids behind me. No,
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hell no, no, no, he wants somebody to carry his last
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name. Yeah, spread joke. Yeah, I understand. Was it like,
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was it hard coming out the closet to say, hey, my first
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how did you like approach the situation for like somebody that's on the other side
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of that camera that going through this saying like, damn, how can I
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tell my parents that I'm gay? Well, you gotta be comfortable with your
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parents. Me. I knew that I had to live by myself because in
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my parents' house. You know, when you were younger, you could probably
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bring girls to the house, and shit, I can't just bring niggas to
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the house, you feel me. So I had to make sure I got
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out on my own feet and do what I wanted to do for myself to
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be able to say, oh, by the way, I am gay.
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Because I have my own place, no one can say nothing to me.
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I got my own job, making my own money. No one can say
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shit to me. So I made sure I was in a good place.
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So if y'all want to disown me as a family, which they did in
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the beginning, I don't even know you have for shit. So you waited
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to you was of age one to come out, so damn all that time
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I was. It wasn't hard like keeping that fire inside. No, because
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I didn't have a real relationship with my mother, so it was like I
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lived with her. I moved out when I was seventeen to live with my
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first boyfriend. He was grown. It was toxic, Yeah, no,
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I was. I wasn't toxic. I was. I was vulnerable like I
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was seventeen. I think the nigga was twenty one, like, tell me
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and leave my house. Yeah, I mean the real problem is I was
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seventeen, he was twenty one in my class, will come on that,
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Oh hello, twelve. Yeah. So then he used to be like telling
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me cut school, and I always used to go there. And I think
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one day I just did not go back home, and I don't know,
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think about it now. This is the first time I'm really thinking about it.
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Why the fuck didn't I just go back home. I just started staying
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out, staying out, staying out, staying out. Damn. Yeah.
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So I remember one day my mother asked me. She was like, who
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who are you. I said, I'm in Atlantic City. She was like,
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oh, wait, who When I told my two friends, I was
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like, oh, my friend Renee and my friend Noveling. And she was
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like, I had a question, like, no straight man has all these
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female friends like you, and which is not true because there's a lot of
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straight men that has a lot of female friends. Yeah, definitely not true.
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But then she also was like, there's no straight man that loves Wendy
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Williams much as much as you like Wendy Williams. He was home, like,
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how you doing? Yeah, but I even do all the hell you're
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doing at home. I was just like, I just liked Wendy Williams.
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She was a gospeler. I like the gossip I talk about all my friends.
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They know that. Do you feel me? That still don't shows because
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you like then she said, no, straight man likes Beyonce the way you
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like Beyonce. What it looks like she was attacking. Yeah, So it
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was just like, okay, oh, do you feel she was just picking
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for it to come out of you. She was that was the way of
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picking. Yeah, And I was like, actually, I am gay.
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But since I'm going to tell you I'm gay, let me also tell you
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this ship. I was also molested as a child. Yeah, because you're
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not gonna bash me, bitch and just say, oh, you're gay,
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bitch, I'm gonna make you feel bad too, bitch. I'm gay,
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But I was also your parents was my lesson. I told them to say
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that I came out. Why you damn like to be hard? You know
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what, because at that age you don't realize you are being molested. You
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feel me, So even now it didn't resonate until I started pott and I
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was like, Yo, that was really wrong. What the nigga did to
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me? You feel me? So it was a family friend, so he
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used to babysit me and my cousins, so it didn't hit until when I
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was older. But when I told her, it was just like one he
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was telling her just so she can get off my back with the gay ship.
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But also it was just like, oh, well, you know,
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it was normal. It was never and my mother never had that open space
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for me to come talk to her about, like, hey, this is
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what happened, you know, so honestly, now I'm thinking about it,
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it was probably more of me being ashamed of saying I was out here sucking
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dick at a young age. That's not true, it is you said.
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It's probably me being more of a shamed of me saying I was sucking dick
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at young age, because it's just like, you're not supposed to be sucking
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dick anyway as a man. And then after a while, being very transparent,
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I started enjoying it again. It was wrong, but it was a
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part of regular activity. It was a fucking game. You have bet a
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woman in your life before? Yeah, a few girlfriends. I had to
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mastigate ship in my life. Run that back. You didn't what, okay?
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Act again? You have had a woman? Yeah, I had a
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few women in my life. I had to mastigate ship. I had a
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few girlfriends. I had a girlfriend from high school, from high junior,
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high school to high school. I had a high school girl, two high
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school girlfriends. I had a coworker girlfriend. Yeah, I had like four
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girlfriends and I had having a girlfriend and you penetrated now only the two of
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them, and even that, I didn't do nothing, But I know I
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had to do it because I had to explain myself later. But then I
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had one girlfrien friend. I fucked her best friend who was a nigga.
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But I fucked her best friend who was a nigga, and I fucked his
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nigga. That's a whole lot. Yeah, you toxic, not toxic exploring.
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So I being in with a woman is like it didn't do nothing for
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you. Nah, you get more being away man. Yeah, I would
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say in my younger days, I got more thrillered of being with men because
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I don't know, I was always attracted. I was always attracted to him.
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They were always like girls never said like yo, I was cute or
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anything, but niggas will always hit on me. So I was like,
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oh, fuck it, I gotta go with the niggas. Then you feel
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me. I don't know what I mean. I guess girls did. Actually,
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And this was in high school. You want to and my high school
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in Staten Island. Oh, that's the whole island. It's a whole island.
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Not many options out there. Now. If I went to school in
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Brooklyn, I had a couple of bitches on my arm because I probably would
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have been d M actually probably because like me being around the same age,
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but being in school, I didn't see too many gay people. Like it
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was one I mean, and like at one point it was like it was
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a mystery, is he really gay? Is he feminine? But then when
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he started wearing the tight pants and then he started wearing the like all right,
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cool, I wasn't bothered by it. It's just like long, he
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just don't like step out of line with it. Then one day he was
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on he was on the school bus coming back and he said, oh,
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such looked like he got a big dis He got it before, he said
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and Chris, I said, bro, and that's the disrespect. I'll be
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man. He just said there like what you look like? And I hit
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him. I hit him and then he said, oh my god, you
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hurt me. I know you got power, and it's like you can't win
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for I can't win for los and I set this side. I'm going in
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the front of the bus. Yeah, No, that is a dispect I
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don't like like you feel me like you don't. Even when I first started
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potting and I had Wolf, I'll be like, yo, bro, excuse
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me. But then Wolf just understands like I'm sharing my stories. But I
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never disrespected or made him feel or even like I feel comfortable talking about in
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front of me with you because I know you know I'm not coming from a
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disrespectful standpoint. But yeah, and it's just I just won't Wolf will never
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get a text from me talking about Nigga'm about to go suck this Nigga's dick.
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Whoa boundaries? Nigga, you feel me? So it's like it's different
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from me sitting on a podcast sharing my story, but I'm never on camera
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talking about it. One that's personal business, and I think if it's a
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it's a straight person too. Nigga shouldn't really be going that unless you're talking
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to your bros like Yo, like Nigga, like you're not gonna go to
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female like Yo, I bust this ship the bitch and women's not gonna go
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to the man like, yeah, this nigga fucked me good. I'm more
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comfortable talking about who I fucked with female friends and compared to what it depends
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because I have female friends that I used to like I bost her. I
23:07
felt like that open up doors. It felt like damn, what did you
23:10
do? Or let me try to experience how I feel too sometimes, But
23:15
yeah, I've seen that because like when what sent me your podcast? He
23:18
said, yeah, I feel like this is a dope podcast for you to
23:21
be on. He was like, six thirty can you do it? He
23:26
just being me. It's like, all right, cool, hell ya can
23:26
do it. Bro, Like I'm not shoying nothing out. So he said,
23:30
I said, you send it to me to listen to see what it's
23:32
about. So he sent it to me. So I took a picture.
23:36
I said, what is this the podcast? He said, yeah. So
23:37
I'm listening to a listen to him like, oh he's gay, but I'm
23:41
listening to it and it's like I put the gayness to a side and just
23:45
listen to the content that you was producing. I said, no, I
23:48
could come on this ship it ain't. It ain't like the drag Queen the
23:52
extra ships like you feel me, I can deal with this ship. Text
23:56
me back, he said, what you think about it? I said,
24:00
Nah, were locked in, bro, I'll be there. So I took
24:03
it at like he just tried to see, like how do I feel about
24:06
sitting on the couch. I could be wrong, but I took it as
24:08
like, how do I feel about sitting on the couch with somebody that's gay?
24:11
You know, in that that community. But it's a lot of times
24:15
too, it's just like I feel the same way with straight niggas on my
24:18
show. It's like a right, like my audience known me to be dramatic
24:23
and talking about this, this and this, but it's like, all right,
24:26
I also don't want to film my guess. But then a lot of
24:30
times when I have guests on my show, like Wolf for you or when
24:33
I had Taho, it was just like nigga talking ship like and those are
24:37
men that's comfortable with who they are. But there's another guess I was just
24:41
telling you about. It was just like they want to come on my platform.
24:44
But it's just like, damn, already know how you feel. So
24:47
it's like, so, why would you want to come in my space?
24:48
You feel me? I understand what you're saying, Like I'm in a party
24:52
world, so I see a lot of trainings and I don't want to get
24:56
you canceled. But you can't keep saying that word I don't care about.
25:00
But what do you call them? Because it's pronoun He never said he,
25:07
He never said her, He never said they he she? Oh I guess
25:12
that. Yeah, so it's not the proper terminology. I don't know.
25:18
I ain't going to LBGC Academy, but I just don't want to get you
25:22
canceled. But I hit a word a lot though, even on TV,
25:25
you don't hear no damn transgender. Yeah that's what trans woman? Trans woman?
25:30
All right, Yeah, that's what it is. And I won't even
25:33
tell you saying because I don't say it on my show. And you know
25:37
you can't like lesbians, you can't say the D word. What's the it
25:41
runs a bike? Oh I'm confused, because god the D bike ride out
25:48
tomorrow. They could say it. It's like Joe Biden saying we're having a
25:53
Nigga picnic. He can't say it, but we can say we're having a
25:56
nigga pic picnic. I get that all right, yeah, like all right,
26:03
it's like a white Yeah. I'm gonna explain to you. This is
26:06
a situation I'm going with right in real life where I was like, yo,
26:10
I'm offended because this person called me nigga. And then they in their
26:12
defense it was like, but you say all the time, it's like,
26:15
yeah, but you're a different race. You feel me. We can say
26:19
to each other but you can't. Yeah, basically basically, but off camera,
26:25
I say all I know you do. Yeah, sure, so trans
26:30
women, yes, be in the club and all that, and I'll be
26:33
at the door and they ain't come. Oh and his lady's free, and
26:40
I'll be like, well, you're just like with the muscles man, so
26:44
you gotta pay, dumb. But they know I'm coming from a jokey place
26:48
and were joking all that ship or like it be I mean, it's just
26:52
be love or here come to the dome. You like you're way home this
26:56
week. Now you're a man today. It's like just the change of the
27:00
voice. How you turn to announcidig or the nigga right there, that's why
27:03
you're paying. But you know and it's all who you do it. But
27:07
like people be calm and having fun, Like it's not a matter of like
27:11
you're not coming from a disrespectful place to where niggas. There's niggas that do
27:15
come from disrespectful place. I personally haven't experienced that disrespectful place. But it's
27:21
just like, also, I don't put myself in a position to make someone
27:23
feel disrespected. You're not the community. The other community is cool, like
27:27
when they not doing that extra shit, Yeah, they cool to though,
27:30
Like even the trans man the men, well the women that's men, Yeah
27:38
that's right, women men, not the woman that dressed like men. The
27:41
woman, the women that's men, Yeah, that's trans many trans man.
27:45
Yeah, And they be out there talking this that and the that, and
27:51
I'm like it is when they backed the strap out on me, I'm like
27:53
what the fuck. But you know what's crazy, I'd be so surprised,
27:59
like I've been getting transfiti lately because it will be a nigga following me on
28:03
the GRAM and I was like, damn, they look so good, and
28:07
then I see the scars on the titties and I'm like, damn, be
28:10
out my d ms man sheep like, I don't go nowhere without it.
28:14
Yeah, some of them just they have to. I'm not gonna say who,
28:18
but somebody told me there's a thing where it's like a cup and they
28:22
put it on their grind area and they pee through it, which you will
28:26
pee through it to pee through the penis Like it's real. So they could
28:32
go in the bathroom and whip it out so it's like a funnel where they're
28:36
peeing into coming out the penis. Being creative learned this every day they being
28:41
creative. I forgot that. What's the name of it, but it's definitely
28:44
real, definitely real. So are you comfortable and that world gay? Are
28:53
you comfortable? Because I know when I was on your podcast which would be
28:57
coming out, so you said, I said, you got associate. You
29:00
feel like you gotta like go to more of those type of spaces. Comfortable,
29:08
I mean, I'm comfortable with me. I don't put myself in the
29:11
gay scene because the gay scene is missy, messy A lot of from my
29:15
experience, I feel like a lot of gay people or not. I don't
29:21
want to say a lot of gay people. I don't want to generalize it
29:22
because you know they'll cancel you for that. But what I will say is
29:27
anything I experienced that because I am envied by a lot of gay people,
29:33
because I work hard, because I have my own this gay this some people
29:40
out there who were disowned by their family and still trying to make it and
29:45
live with each other to where it's just like my success is not the same
29:48
as theirs, and they try to milk the It's because I had employees who
29:52
try to tell me, like, you're not being nice to me because I'm
29:55
gay, and it's just like, nigga, like the fuck do you think
29:56
I am too? Like there's some people that try to milk that you feel
30:00
me and then there's some people who would try to fuck your niggas, And
30:04
it's just it's a messy scene to be in, so I try to not
30:10
be in it. But then I also realized there's different groups you could be
30:12
in, Like I've never been to a ballroom, Like I've never been to
30:15
a Vogan show, Like those are things I'm interested in now because I'm comfortable
30:21
with who I'm becoming. But it's also really a messy scene, like the
30:27
these niggas were smiling your face, be your friend and fucking niggas, and
30:30
now I'm on the first forty eight because I do believe in Fatal Attraction.
30:34
That's my favorite show. Yeah on the TV one, Yeah yeah, optimum,
30:40
Yeah attraction for my man, for my man. That's what I'm telling
30:45
you. I don't want no crazy vis that to do it like that for
30:48
me, ready to everything. That's the problem. I want to be on
30:53
Fatal Attraction or for my man. I want my story to be on it
30:56
because my toxicsness. We'll show you how much love I got for you.
31:03
So you you you you playing and that you know that's premeditated if you take
31:08
it out. No, it's not premeditated. Don't put me in a situation
31:15
to have to kill you. Mm hmm you feel me? All right?
31:19
Help me out with this one. Why like gay men think everybody, oh
31:22
man, gay? I got some type of gay end though not all,
31:30
not all, but most like most most like because you can just tell,
31:33
you can tell who's comfortable being around gay people, and then you can tell
31:37
who's everybody tried. Like I fucked with a lot of niggas on the low.
31:42
I fuck with niggas that had girls, and they'd be like, yo,
31:45
let me just see let me. Can you just look my dict to
31:47
see if you like it? If I like it or not? And I'm
31:49
like, oh, you always want to use exqs. If I suck your
31:52
dick the first three times and you're still doing it, nigga, what you
31:56
like it? Stop asking me to see if you still like it? You
31:59
fucking like it? Straight up? Yeah? Yeah, you know. So
32:05
it's just you know how women are curious and they do things. There's there's
32:09
curiosity out there, and most men are interested in trying it. They just
32:14
don't even know who to try it with who. They don't want to be
32:16
out it. They don't want to know, they don't know who's going to
32:19
tell their secrets. But I'm telling you, like I had the argument with
32:22
my father one day, I'm like, bro, like some of your friends
32:24
be trying to hit me up. Bro, thanks for promoting me. Damn.
32:30
Yeah, that's a love blow and a love blow I was. I
32:38
So let's get it to the podcast. How did the twenty five Years Older
32:46
Club come about? It came about and during the pandemic? What happened?
32:52
What happened? Yes, it was during the pandemic, and you know,
32:55
nobody was going anywhere so you have to be creative. So I was like,
33:00
let me have a zoom party. So I got attend a link to
33:04
mad people on the zoom and we just on the screen talking, listening to
33:08
music, vibing, having a conversation, and me being sneaky and shit.
33:15
Decided to record it, but I wasn't gonna do anything with it. I
33:17
was just like, let me record it and see what the fuck happens.
33:22
Well, not the funk happens, but I just recorded it, and then
33:23
a couple of days later I forgot I had it on my phone, so
33:28
I was like, oh, what's this and it was like great conversation.
33:30
So I literally put in a group chat like yo, we should make this
33:32
a show or something and I was like, word that would be so that
33:37
would be dope, right. So that's when everybody started coming with ideas and
33:40
we was like, now we gotta get this on YouTube. Started recording.
33:45
We did the first episode, then like it did the second episode, we
33:49
didn't liked it. About the third episode, we was like, yeah,
33:51
this is it. I ordered a new laptop. Thank you to Donald Trump
33:54
with that stimulus check him right in handy did it? Got that laptop pandemic.
34:02
Pandemic is crazy, but I need another pandemic something Please don't Yeah,
34:10
but I need we need the pandemic. Do something else word pandemic. God
34:16
damn. But shutdown was a little cool. Though I saved a lot of
34:20
money. I adn't go outside much. I learned how to cook a little
34:22
bit, just a little bit, you know, develop anxiety. But that's
34:27
neither hear there what I cool? I just started like learning. So during
34:31
the pandemic, I was doing a little something something. But now on my
34:35
new growth and development, I realized I got if I want to be married,
34:37
I gotta learn how to cook for my nigga. So pretty much,
34:42
you're the woman in a relationship. No, stop saying that because I'm a
34:45
nigga. I'm just you're a messy bottom. That's worse. Why you can't
34:54
just accept it? That accept it because you we want to say my man
35:00
back. You don't like the way that sound. Yeah, I'm a woman
35:02
in the relationship. I'm the messy bottom. Are you conflicted? No,
35:07
I'm not conflicted. I don't Sometimes I could be the submissive one, but
35:13
also I could be the dominant one. Said you said, my man?
35:16
So where he's supposed to be back my man. Yeah, because we're both
35:20
men, he's supposed to call me his girl. I know a lot of
35:22
people that be wanting to call like nah, I don't want to like I'm
35:25
his bitch and okay, excuse me, Nah, I want to be I
35:29
want to be called your man, like my nigga. Yeah, don't call
35:34
me your bitch. Yeah. Like I love play fighting, what's nigga?
35:40
Yeah? Like you know, me and my ex, we didn't do none
35:44
of that gay ship and hug we Dad was like, well, bro,
35:46
like we slap each other. What's popping? Like, we don't do none
35:50
of that gay ship, especially in public health. I think, you know
35:52
what, Billy. One thing about you, I think that you represent a
35:59
middle ground between the people that don't understand people that are gay and the people
36:04
that are gay. You you you, Yeah, you represent this middle ground
36:07
because a lot of the time I think, and I don't want to speak
36:09
for SEENO, but a lot of time, as heterosexual men, when we
36:13
think gay man, we just think like all the way extreme right, because
36:19
yeah, because of these images that we see in movies, and a lot
36:22
of it really just come from movies and media. Because we're not even close
36:24
enough to somebody like a real feeling. But like with you, you know,
36:30
you just it's like you're not you're not trying to impress, You're not
36:35
trying to go over the top to prove to anybody who you are, what
36:37
you stand for, with what you represent. You just are and you just
36:40
feel like a safe space to like, like he said, like once upon
36:44
a time he might have been homophobic, but like I think the way he
36:46
feels now is the same way that I felt like a couple of years ago.
36:50
It's like being next to you, it's like, oh, bro,
36:52
just chill. Bro, you get an opportunity to get to know because gay
36:54
is you just I mean, I just like the same sex you feel me.
36:59
That's all that is like now knowing you or not, I don't see
37:02
you as gay. I see you as a bility to exactly. It's a
37:06
big difference when I see people first time, like damn that gay ass.
37:08
Yeah. Like but when you see like when you get to know a person
37:13
like them, he's not moving like that. Yeah, Like you're not you're
37:17
not switching, you're not doing the most, none of that. Like some
37:21
people just do the most for me, Yeah, growing like I was working
37:25
out with somebody that was gay. My mother like, yo, at my
37:30
mother's job, you don't want to co workers. She's like, yo,
37:31
you know my son is homophobic. Whatever. So he came in and it's
37:36
like his little workouts, and I'm looking like what the fuck? But I
37:38
kept it to myself like he never overstepped his boundary. He never crossed the
37:43
line to a point. We start having conversations, we start working out with
37:45
each other, and it's like, now I'm not head on him, none
37:49
of that. It's just like, like me, it's a gay person that's
37:52
getting money out here. That's it. He straight came to me and said,
37:54
you're not my tight. I said, damn, you just woke me
37:58
up because like I'm thinking you're gay, I'm a nigger. First thing,
38:02
you don'na want me type ship. I can't play you too close. But
38:06
then when I really started to understand and see how they move, I got
38:10
more comfortable with being around. Yeah, and gay niggas is actually funny as
38:15
funny as funny as fun it's and I don't like. I don't want to
38:22
say I don't like. So I just went to Atlanta, but we was
38:24
out there for a black effect, right, and I met somebody. I
38:29
did a show out there and then we went out. He bought all his
38:32
gay friends whatever, and me, I don't like being around not I don't
38:37
like being around so many gay people. It's just one. I'm not used
38:40
to it. But also they cause attraction, right, so they're loud,
38:45
they're doing the most on the tables, and I just don't like attention period.
38:51
You feel me so much, Yeah, you're doing too much so but
38:55
I think that's what opened the doors for me to want to explore, like
38:59
can not because it was all pretty much niggas, like dressed as niggas,
39:04
not doing too much laughing how he one did bust out of twerk, but
39:07
it was just like it's eight other ga niggas hell one bust that doesn't bother
39:13
me. You feel me. But when everybody's all with the pom pom okay,
39:16
that's you enjoy it. But also there's no there's a place in the
39:20
time, and some people don't know the place all the time. Like I
39:22
don't expect if I was to have a gay friend to come in here and
39:25
just twork. No, there's two straight men here. Be respectful, be
39:30
respectful and that's what I like about you. Thank you. It's like you
39:35
ain't doing too much. Yeah, thank you. Think you and somebody I
39:37
call your nigga, bro, what's up with such such Yeah? I just
39:42
put my my the guy that work at the gym and the trainer. I
39:45
just put him on to my friend. I'm like, you see, I
39:46
should charge. I should start charging for that company, right, Yeah,
39:52
missing out? You got to get your money. Yeah, I'm gonna look
39:55
into that being in that space, right, not scared the date, like
40:00
off the weather, I said, off the websites and all that, because
40:04
it could be dangerous as far as people posing to be gay, but really
40:08
not who I didn't think about that. I said, a lot of people
40:13
out here that have hate for gay people. Yeah, like I don't like
40:16
growing up, I don't heard like somebody in my family said their son whether
40:21
be gay, they're gonna beat them back in the closet. I heard that
40:23
a lot. Definitely hurt that. That was a great question. No one
40:28
else asked me that, especially when I was younger, younger me, I
40:34
was out here a while, and especially like my own apartment. I'm telling
40:37
you, the doors was like a revolving door. So especially for hookups,
40:43
I was just I just didn't care. I never thought of possibly someone trying
40:45
to get me and saying I had got you boom. But as I got
40:51
older, it's not just easy to get me outside, Like I have to
40:55
talk to you for a while. Trust me, I do a full investigation
40:59
on you, like I I gotta see that you gave. We gotta have
41:00
at least some gay mutual followers on Instagram. You just don't know, yo.
41:06
I can clearly show you. I can show you. I have a
41:09
whole Instagram where I stalk people's page to make sure that they say who they
41:13
are, and I watch it and I block it. Yeah, you gay
41:16
enough? Like you? You? You a homo? Is that a good
41:21
word? Homo's not bad? I mean I said it, so it should
41:24
be good. But yeah, Now if I go on dates offline, I
41:31
do have friends come meet up and they'll spot on the date and just follow
41:35
me. Okay, So one thing I just told that too. I was
41:38
like, Bro, you know I wasn't alone on that date. It's like
41:43
what you're talking about. I was like, yeah, my friends was right
41:45
behind me watching you. And when we left, and when we went to
41:49
go get dessert. They followed. He was like, that's insane, but
41:52
I respect it, Nigga. I had to do my research on you.
41:57
Did my research. Also had to bring security. And he was like,
42:00
well, I did my research on you. Get with you and bring security.
42:02
That's the difference. You never know you forgot yep, fucking around and
42:08
if you do attack me, somebody gotta be there witnessing, y'all. I
42:12
won't say, oh, we're looking for Billy for forty five days, still
42:15
can't find him. At least my friend's witnessed something. God for it.
42:20
Got for it. But yeah, I never thought about that. Thank you
42:22
for giving me more anxiety. And I seen that on episode of Attraction.
42:27
That's why it was yeah, attraction, That's why I asked he were gay
42:36
but scared to let the word know he was. So he was sleeping with
42:40
men but killing them mmm, because he don't want his secret to come out.
42:44
They want his secret to come out. He don't want his secret,
42:46
the one that he fell in love with, somewhat like he was jacking whatever
42:51
the case may be. And then when they wanted more, he couldn't give
42:54
them more because he still had a whole family at home. MM. So
43:00
I know as you get older. When I was younger, you love the
43:04
DM man, right, But as you get older, you start losing the
43:07
interest in DM man, Like it's not worth it because they're not healed and
43:12
they're not into them. They're not they're living a lie. It's a lot
43:15
to take on because now I'm telling you my ex he was. He was
43:20
the l He had a girlfriend, left his girlfriend to come with me,
43:23
but then he cheated on me with another girl. Right. But when you
43:27
argue like, bro, you're you're an effort, like sitting there, realize
43:32
that you're a gay nigga? You're gay. He used to hate it,
43:35
and I did it to trol him, but it was just too much energy
43:40
of having to hide to where it was like, Yo, let's go out
43:43
to eat. Now where are we going out to eat? I don't want
43:45
to go out to eat in public like that. And it's just like,
43:47
oh, we got to eat out every day? Or Hi, who he
43:52
is? So I'd be like, Yo, my friends have an event,
43:54
pull up with me. He was like, nah, I want to go
43:57
out. You know everybody in mind business that I'm just like nigga, they
44:01
know who you are. They don't give a fuck. They're not going to
44:05
try and talk to you. Now. He was like, nah, you
44:07
don't know who know who? You on whole new I'm just like, no,
44:09
it's not worth it, especially at this age. I'm not playing hide
44:13
and seek with deep with the niggas at this age. How you feel about
44:17
Oh, I just got hit and I didn't fucking one time. If you
44:23
do it one time, you're not really gay. One time you're still there
44:28
curious, you're still gay one time? Still all right? But listen,
44:32
how come and we all know the double stand that how come women could do
44:36
it but men can't? I know? How come women yet? How come
44:39
women can eat each other out but men can't? Still gay? But that
44:43
ship? All right? You love that ship? But how does how does
44:45
somebody know if they like something if they don't try it. Well, if
44:49
he tried it and didn't like it, but you still tried it, but
44:52
he didn't like it, he was curious, So you just say I'm almost
44:57
gay. I was, I was giged. I was get curious if he
45:01
doesn't like it and never did it again, and think said that ship,
45:07
but I still feel gay? But that's how gay? If he tried it
45:10
once and then for a thousand bitches after I didn't finish. Also, it
45:15
doesn't count for you finished or not you finished. I mean if you it
45:19
doesn't it doesn't matter to me. I feel like if you finished, you
45:22
finished. But if you never went back to it, and does not make
45:25
you gay. It just makes you curious. What's still ahead? Because I
45:30
was about to ask her to I didn't know how he feels like you're gay?
45:35
I'm sorry, No, just to have them thoughts those gay, that's
45:37
gay thoughts you was, But why can't be curiosity? You never went back
45:44
to it? You said I did it. It was never for me.
45:46
It was not my thing. I hate it. I will never do it
45:49
again. Still thought about it. That does not make you gay though second
45:54
guess it yourself. No, but you didn't like it, Like that's like
45:59
you eating duck? Right, How are you gonna know if you like duck?
46:06
I never tried it, but you have to try it, and I
46:07
won't because that's not for me. You got for me. You gotta be
46:15
fish, seafood. I don't eat seafood. No, wody can't put it
46:17
in front of me and just try it? Nah? But what you interested
46:22
in like I think I do want to try. I think I want to
46:24
try. Crab Lakes never never been interesting. Mm hmm, you never been
46:31
in. I never me personally, I would never get up and saying say,
46:37
I want to see if it's difference between the woman and the man,
46:40
right, but some people might be And I had I had a conversation with
46:45
a gay person with that day, like one man could get down on the
46:47
knees and sucker, what's the difference if a man there, it's just a
46:51
nigga because it's a man. Yeah, I know it's a man. Oh
46:54
when women can do a man can do it. Oh. But he did
46:59
it and didn't like it and never did it again, never did it against
47:04
That does not make him gay. He did a gay still crush your mind.
47:08
But even if it so, when does that erase out the documents He
47:12
did it ten years ago, It doesn't matter. Like he's not gay if
47:16
he hasn't done it ever again. He said, I did it? Who
47:22
make these rules up? He literally ate the crab lake and spit the crab
47:24
Lake out and said, nah, this is not for me, But we're
47:27
not gonna pay crab I'm just saying I'm just saying, who make these rules
47:32
up? I was I was about to say, God, but we don't
47:37
want to bring up in this conversation. Do not? God said. I
47:40
think I'm my head out on this one. What I'm saying is, YO,
47:45
you ate the crab Lake, didn't like it? You split it out?
47:50
Do you like crab Lakes? No? Okay, ten years later so
47:53
you still like crab Lakes and deef is two different? Yo? Too?
48:07
But why why? Why? Because you guys like why why why? Because
48:15
why the gay just came out was crazy? Why can't a man just try
48:21
it? No? Nah? No, because I had somebody told me like,
48:27
I want to try it, right, and I was like a boom
48:29
and he was straight. Yeah, he had a girl on everything and he
48:31
wanted to try. He tried it, giving it or no, receiving it,
48:37
receiving it. So what you're saying is gave they do it or they
48:40
receive it. See, if you do it, that's more gay. If
48:45
you receive it, that's now you got ruse to this ship. No,
48:47
because you got's not receiving it. If you're receiving it, it's not gay
48:52
because it's like you you didn't really do nothing. You used to a female's
48:57
mouth, you did something. No, you you didn't do anything but got
49:00
your dicks up right then you did something. You did something to an extent.
49:06
No, you didn't do anything. You received keyword received. You got
49:09
it done to you, all right. So if you said that, So
49:12
if he put his hand on his head, that makes you get why are
49:15
you let me know? Like you said, just say he didn't do nothing,
49:22
Hindley head this crazy. No, it don't make it because you received
49:29
it. Really no, that man take the head no matter how you put
49:34
it, receive it whatever, it's different. Glory hold, you're gay.
49:38
Now, glory hold that ain't gay. Wait, if you put your dick
49:43
in the glory in the gloryhole, it's gay. It's not gay because you
49:49
don't know what's another exactly. But you're going to tell yourself as a woman
49:54
had his hand at the end of the day. I don't know. I
49:57
don't know now if you do not if now, if a nigga got down
50:00
his knees and gave suck, he's gay. So what's what's between the first
50:06
time? Oh? What? Because so if the nigga get on his knees
50:09
to suck it he's gay. Yeah, so what about the nigga's receiving it.
50:14
That don't make him gay? Not curious, Oh my god, curious
50:20
to you gotta think because you're actually doing the motion of the sucking, that's
50:25
gay as hell. And you're actually doing the emotions of the touching the head
50:30
and bringing it in as gay as hell. But you would just say do
50:35
the same thing. All right. So now let me ask you a question.
50:37
Is it gay a nigga got a head from a trans woman? Yeah,
50:40
she's a woman. Oh you said a trans woman? Yeah, like
50:45
she's a woman. Yeah, no, that's not gay. But at the
50:50
end of the day, it's still at the end of the day, what's
50:52
between them legs? So the trans woman got the penis removed. But I
51:00
do that. I know what it was. You had a dick in two
51:02
balls. So but it's gay if they your name is Jennifer, but you
51:07
was born it don't matter what the Okay, So it's gay. But if
51:14
a man with a transfoman, is it gay that a man with a transom
51:20
a man that trans a woman? Yeah, man for two women? Yes,
51:24
it's gay. But she's a woman. Now do you have a baby
51:28
with her? Can you produce? Can she carry? Nine months? I
51:43
don't hear you. Hello, are you there? I don't hear you,
51:51
billy. That's about the gay community. Don't like me because you're right,
51:55
You're right, and I think they get carried away with the whole and then
51:59
just like a like I felt like they should tell the man mm hmm,
52:04
I'm a trans woman. I believe that too. I had an episode on
52:07
my show where the trans woman said on my show that she don't believe in
52:13
disclosing that information and taking away a person right And the reasoning was, I
52:21
would say, semi valid, but it's not valid. So she feels like
52:25
you stopped me in the street and you basically was like, oh, because
52:30
I was. I thought you was a woman, But they said you was
52:34
attracted to me, so you should be attracted to what you saw. But
52:37
I feel I still feel you shouldn't take my option away from me exactly.
52:40
I believe they should disclose that information right away. Wolf probably agrees with you.
52:49
First of all, what's more gay a straight man giving her or receiving
52:53
her. He said this said, you get had from a man for the
53:00
first time, you're not gay. If you give had, you gay,
53:05
But if you receive it, you're not gay. No, it's just gay,
53:07
bro, it's just game. But if you did it one time and
53:10
never did it again, you're still gay. No, I never did it.
53:15
Gain you just sit there and think, Oh damn, let me see
53:16
how I feel for a man to get on his knees to give me your
53:20
gay, bro? Does count for your drunk gay niggas? All gay?
53:24
What the fuck? When I'm drunk if they did it one time and didn't
53:29
like that ten years down the line, if I'm drunk, I'm like,
53:31
how you gonna call me something? I'm not that ten years ago. This
53:35
is the thing I think that when it comes down to like sucking dick,
53:38
bro, that's that's that's a different level of like curiosity. But worry about
53:44
them sucking your dick, nigga, it's day, but ten years later doesn't
53:49
matter. Okay. So what if they kissed the person, well, they
53:52
kissed another man, does that make him gay? Why you man? Bro?
53:58
You drunk, ain't no drunk you know? Do that? Man?
54:01
When I'm drunking, I'm like, d MX, it was simpany about three
54:07
camps. I'm not thinking about John Johnny, Larry move, Bro, would
54:15
you be how would you reactive? You found out your man he came to
54:17
you. He was like, yo, Bro, back then I got ahead
54:22
from a nigga. But I never liked it. I never liked it.
54:24
That's that you. That's you. It doesn't matter to me, my mom.
54:30
You're still gay, bro, But but I'm still love you because but
54:35
he said, Bro, I never liked that. I never did it after
54:37
that you it's okay. How if you did it? No thing never that
54:47
niggas gay nigga, gay nigga and simple. It's like anybody judging you.
54:54
You just gay. I'm not judging. But it doesn't make him gay.
54:58
Bro, just hit me out one last time. It does not make him
55:01
gay. If he did it once, never did it again. Well,
55:05
he let another man do it. He let the other man give him head.
55:08
He never liked it. He never did again twenty years past, never
55:13
did it again. You're gonna still call him gay. So he sat there
55:15
and let the motion go. I mean I put it, I put it
55:17
to you like this. He did it into completion. Stop talking with the
55:22
completion right, because that completion should matter. But listen, it matters.
55:24
I mean, I guess it's like this because I kind of see your point
55:28
a little bit in the sense of, like, if I stole something one
55:30
time, does that make me a thief for life? Type? Shit?
55:34
Right? It's a big difference. It is, No, it's huge,
55:36
it's super different. But if I'm but listen, but like so if I
55:42
if I I mean, damn, I mean, but if I if I
55:44
kill somebody one time, does that make me a murderer? It kind of
55:47
does it do. So no matter where you go, no matter where you
55:51
go, you are murdered. Now that's real though, So when you based
55:54
now that's real. That's why you're making a face. So when you based
55:57
it off of that logic, it's like, okay, some some things that
55:59
apply for or not. Like I stole one time, but I'm not a
56:01
thief because I don't continue to do it. But if I kill somebody,
56:05
then that makes me a murderers. So it's like if I have a sexual
56:08
interaction with another male, that makes me gay, you know what I mean?
56:14
I mean, I don't know, bro, I kind of see it
56:15
both ways. Anna, if you still get caught on your resume is when
56:20
your rap sheet pop up, you are a thief, Like if you hit
56:24
a woman, you are a woman for the rest of your life. It's
56:29
on your but for the rest of your life though for the rest of the
56:34
people. Are you a woman beater for the rest of your life? You
56:37
may not be, but that's what people want because that's what Billy's saying.
56:40
Billy saying like, for instance, like we all seen a Puffy video.
56:44
Right, he did what he did, so he's a woman beater, right,
56:49
But we don't know what space that man was at at that moment.
56:51
It's like to a point he probably got he healed. Now he got the
56:53
help. He not putting his hands on no more women. He wanted to
56:57
do right by women. Hypothetic but yeah, hypothetically right, but in that
57:01
video by people seeing that video. But the first thing people gonna say a
57:07
woman here, you know, and you know what, I would agree that
57:10
he's a woman beater because I don't know it's about like, but what if
57:15
he was a woman beater, went to church church now you don't know,
57:19
no winter church cleaning to his life out and everything. People ten years later,
57:22
you're still gonna call him a woman be there they say about Chris Brown.
57:27
Look at Chris Brown, Rihanna. Yeah, and I hate that they
57:30
do Chris like that because I don't agree with it, to be honest with
57:31
you, But again they still call him that. But he's not really a
57:35
woman beat that's true, that's true. But the first thing that come in
57:39
Rihanna. Yes, but some people saying he's not a woman be there.
57:45
Leave that alone. That was the past. That was a mistake. So
57:47
he's not gay. He just got head and a man on his knees blowing
57:52
the pop. That's that's gay. That's gay because you really it's the motion
57:59
of its levels to this ship. That was not because the first time.
58:02
First of all, why is I'm thinking about a man going down on me?
58:06
This is definitely a clip. This is gonna be rival. I'm thinking
58:08
about a man going down on me. I'm thinking about Ebony, I'm thinking
58:12
about Chantey. I'm thinking about Chantey's friends. You feel me. I'm thinking
58:21
about so much different things. I'm not thinking about Damn John over there got
58:25
a strong John is crazy, but it don't happen like the times where I
58:30
accidentally sucks straight niggas. Dick's right, you like I missed my cousin John,
58:37
like it just being the moment to where they like yall Lincoln, the
58:40
nigga might be horny moment in the world. I'm horny, yo, bro,
58:45
I'm out Let me see if I can get it. You're right,
58:47
You're right. Ain't that much curious in the world? And I'm like,
58:51
damn my morning, let the homie hit. You're right. Hell no,
58:53
you're right. It's level is level, said Ship. There was one nigger.
59:00
He was straight, but he watched me give haad but he never did
59:02
anything that makes him Why are you watching that? Because I asked him,
59:07
so you want to watch? Yeah, right, you already know he is
59:13
my brothers. I don't want to see that, even I accept it as
59:20
my friend and you do what you do. I don't want to see that,
59:22
but you know what I do. I did it to him because I
59:24
know he was an easy troll. Because again this niggas who I know.
59:28
I would never ask that to that nigga. I knew he was just easy
59:30
to Some of these niggas is easy to bait. Honestly, just like you
59:35
said, take it. It tastes like chicken. I'm good, I'm good.
59:40
Ain't no persuasion to me. I'm good. No, I can understand.
59:45
I just want to make sure you understand too that. Oh no,
59:47
I understand. If they did it, it does not make them gay because
59:52
brown is still not a woman. Be there, you know what. Let's
59:55
let's let's let's take a poll for that. Let's take so yeah, we're
59:59
gonna put a hold on one of y'all. Cue up the question real quick.
1:00:01
The time step it. So the pole is if you're a straight man
1:00:07
and you let a man get on his knees to blow your whistle, blow
1:00:13
the lighty pop, because we're gonna keep it. Pg. Thirteen with this
1:00:15
question, so he could go up on Instagram. They won't take it down.
1:00:20
Blow the LIGHTI pop, blow the whistle? Does that make you gay?
1:00:24
Even if it's the first time and you didn't like it? No,
1:00:30
you didn't say it doesn't matter if you like it or not. No,
1:00:31
that's important, all right, But you didn't like it, but you still
1:00:35
thought about it. Let's be gonna put that in there. Okay, Also
1:00:37
put this in there. You don't like it and it happened ten years ago,
1:00:40
that don't make you gay. It doesn't happen. It doesn't if you
1:00:45
did a casket that conak one day one too many, bro, too many.
1:00:58
Let's bring it to a close, yo. But de people that out
1:01:06
there, that guy mixed feelings emotions about the LTB community, ll TV ain't
1:01:15
gonna be l g B t Q to be in that they got and they
1:01:22
got to letters. They take away all the goddamn letters. It's not at
1:01:24
LGBT. I don't I don't add that rest is all right? So what
1:01:29
advice do you have to that person out there to that it ain't like the
1:01:35
gay and what they think, and what advice do you have to somebody that's
1:01:38
in the closet that's scared to come out, that want the word to know
1:01:44
pretty much who they are? Did you just sing Diana Ross lyrics? I
1:01:52
said, he's singing someone else. He said, he literally just sung Diana
1:01:55
Ross. He said, I'm coming out to tell somebody who want to come
1:02:00
out and want the world to know who they are. And she said,
1:02:06
I repeat that. I would just say, and this is probably make sure
1:02:15
like coming out to family or the world, the world. I mean,
1:02:20
I think we're in a safe place where we could say the world is comfortable
1:02:23
with now. Just don't you know, be you be who you are.
1:02:27
But don't project your gainness onto other people. Now, if you have family
1:02:31
that you're worry about, unconcerned, this might not be the best advice.
1:02:35
You always say be yourself around your family, but make sure you're in a
1:02:37
good position, a safe place, because there's gays who got there who parents
1:02:43
will put them out for being gay. That's why again, I made sure
1:02:47
I was out when I did it. Just make sure you know, make
1:02:51
sure the moment fell right to you. Don't make sure you have a backup
1:02:53
plan. Make sure you have a place to go after. You don't want
1:02:55
to be in nobody shelters and sleeping around and do all those things. And
1:03:02
you don't technically to this day. And my sister did not come out.
1:03:06
She said she don't holler at girls girls hollering. She just holler back,
1:03:10
do what to do, what's best for you. If you don't feel comfortable,
1:03:13
that person's not meant for you to tell. But get your own place.
1:03:16
You have no rules, No one can tell you shit. You're grown,
1:03:20
You're about your business. You can say boom, I'm gay. They
1:03:22
want to cut you off. At least I got my own space. I
1:03:24
built my own parents who became my family. Fuck y'all good advice. Live
1:03:30
your truth, live your life, be who you are. And I'm gonna
1:03:32
do something different if I fox with you, Okay, I got two I
1:03:38
got two tickets to your podcast to whoever. Okay, you can pick it
1:03:44
out, okay, and I send them the invoice and every day how they
1:03:46
get their tickets and everything else. You're gonna get two tickets for people,
1:03:50
two tickets I'm giving I'm buying four tickets all together, two for me and
1:03:52
somebody else, and I'm giving away two tickets. That's that's dope. You
1:03:55
don't want to bring you two of your own people, two more of your
1:03:59
own people, like give into your fan base. You never know, somebody
1:04:01
pockets might be up. They want to come see your show, support your
1:04:04
birthday with you, and they can't afford it. I forgot my birthday.
1:04:10
That's dope. I appreciate that. Definitely. I got cash back, so
1:04:15
I'm gonna pay for that. I'm hoping that the ticket that I do bar
1:04:24
Is with Wolf so woof could come out. We got a couple of months
1:04:29
to try. But before we leave out, before we close out, if
1:04:35
you let a man get on your knees, it's like at one time you
1:04:39
gay, do not, And it's okay, bro, just be gay,
1:04:43
and it's okay we Fox with you still. Man once said head is just
1:04:48
head, and the blond Stuffer said head from a man, You're gay,
1:04:55
but another episode and I see podcasts. Dad, you got me funked up
1:05:00
fight after the fishing black Stepper and we always gonna step big Lila h