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Mac & Bone Hour 1 : Hornets Draft Hannes Steinbach & Christian Anderson · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: Man when I come on sty Oh, it is Mike
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Speaker 1: and Bo.
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Speaker 2: You guys are the most entertaining sports program in the world.
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Speaker 3: The Bone Gobin, No, no, stop working. You and I
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Speaker 3: are a couple eating a lady in the tramp. You're
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Speaker 3: the lady on the tree.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, come on baby.
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Speaker 3: I wish I was Boopy Boopy MacLean man. That's a
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Speaker 3: great name.
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Speaker 1: All the bond. Good morning, Charlotte, Welcome board.
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Speaker 4: It is go time a post NBA Draft first round
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Speaker 4: at least, with the second round coming up tonight, the
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Speaker 4: first round post draft edition of The Mac and Bone Show.
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Speaker 4: As we get ready to tear apart, our thoughts, your thought?
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Speaker 1: What did Jeff Peterson say? What did the draft pick say?
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Speaker 1: Last night?
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Speaker 4: The Hornets get a big that a lot of fans coveted.
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Speaker 4: Some other bigs weren't still on the board. We'll talk
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Speaker 4: about Hannes Steinbach and we will talk about his German
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Speaker 4: youth national team teammates Christian Anderson, who also was selected
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Speaker 4: by the Hornets last night. So he got two guys
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Speaker 4: familiar with each other. We got two guys that play
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Speaker 4: for Germany on the national team. Schnitzel all around for
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Speaker 4: everybody baby. A very interesting draft, and we'll talk about
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Speaker 4: it today on the Mac and Bone Show. We'll touch
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Speaker 4: on the rest of the draft as well. What happened
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Speaker 4: at the top, what happened throughout the draft. Did Jay
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Speaker 4: Williams and Richard Jefferson get in a fight after the
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Speaker 4: ABC draft coverage? Because I would not be surprised after
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Speaker 4: what happened during the draft coverage with those two gentlemen
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Speaker 4: and Bryce Young, Ladies and gentlemen. Just when we were
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Speaker 4: asking the football gods to give us Derek Brown on
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Speaker 4: the top one hundred players list from the NFL, Bryce
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Speaker 4: Young makes a surprise appearance at number ninety eight.
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Speaker 1: Take that haters, one of the one of the highest
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Speaker 1: rankings so far in the league.
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Speaker 4: So you go, only one guy ranked ahead of them
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Speaker 4: in the whole league right now anyway, So we'll talk
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Speaker 4: about that as well. Willie p, fresh off his trip
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Speaker 4: to Italy, will join us to defend the controversial pizza
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Speaker 4: knife and fork photo and talk some World Cup. You
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Speaker 4: know we're gonna talk some World Cup with him. Rinaldo
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Speaker 4: finally started his World Cup yesterday with two goals. England
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Speaker 4: completely bamboozled by the low block defensive strategy of Ghana.
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Speaker 4: So anyway, we'll touch on some World Cup stuff. We
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Speaker 4: get the US playing tomorrow, We got Polisic back practicing
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Speaker 4: with the team the last couple of days. Who got
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Speaker 4: things happening? But this is going to be about your
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Speaker 4: Charlotte Hornets. How do fans feel? How do y'all feel
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Speaker 4: about what we did last night? The fit dog is
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Speaker 4: in the house and there he is the bone man.
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Speaker 4: What's up, bone man? What's up man?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? A good night for the Hornets.
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Speaker 3: I am going to text Willy p already and ask
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Speaker 3: him for the exact definition of schnitzel. Here I've seen
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Speaker 3: the word. I don't know exactly what schnitzel is. It's
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Speaker 3: a German culinary delight, isn't it. Yeah, I know that
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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. I just don't know exactly what you
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Speaker 3: want more before and before I commit to eating the schnitzel,
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Speaker 3: I'd like to know more about schnitzel.
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Speaker 5: Even do you use a knife and fork to eat?
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Speaker 1: And said said dishes. I get the feeling.
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Speaker 4: Willy p a is a knife and if he eats
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Speaker 4: pizza knife and fork, he might just go everything. Knife
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Speaker 4: and fork. He might eat potato chips. Do you have
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Speaker 4: different types of schnitzel? You have weener schnitzel. Yeah, you
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Speaker 4: got porch. That's that's called veener. Right, Okay, because I
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Speaker 4: was gonna he got I was gonna call it the
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Speaker 4: wiener Schnitzel. I put my German on there, all right.
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Speaker 4: I did an over of highness. I went Venus Schnitzel. Hey,
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Speaker 4: we've got we've got to get this thing under control.
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Speaker 4: Both these guys are coming on in a nine o'clock
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Speaker 4: hour here, man, we got to get information quickly. Here
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Speaker 4: there you go this to do a little research there.
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Speaker 4: But schnitzel is a thin, breaded and pan fried cutlet
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Speaker 4: of meat, typically veal. So so veal is what they
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Speaker 4: call viener Schnitzel, or pork seasoned in coated flour, egg
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Speaker 4: and bread chrombs before frying until golden crispy. It's fried,
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Speaker 4: it's fried. Who doesn't like fried meat?
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Speaker 1: I am officially on team?
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Speaker 4: Or do we just because Mores Johnson, who unfortunately went
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Speaker 4: number nine yesterday to the Mavericks and his former college
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Speaker 4: coach he called he's already calling them the Michigan Mavericks.
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Speaker 4: Are we the Charlotte Schnitzels. Should we make it a
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Speaker 4: name change?
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Speaker 3: Oh so people know Christian Anderson is not from Germany.
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Speaker 3: His dad is his dad is he is from Maga
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Speaker 3: place named Uh what'd it up last night? I believe Atlanta,
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Speaker 3: Georgia is where he is from.
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Speaker 1: An anyway, I gotta stop doing that.
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Speaker 4: This is like when we did this the French Salon
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Speaker 4: Voice for about two months after the draft. So anyway, yeah,
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Speaker 4: let's let's uh, let's talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Bone man.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to guess the Steinbach pick. Where they were
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Speaker 4: in the draft at scream take Hanna Steinbach. It just
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Speaker 4: it just screamed it. Mores was gone at nine, Lindeborg
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Speaker 4: was gone by then, uh Mara was gone to Okasee.
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Speaker 4: And at that point, I'm actually begging Milwaukee at thirteen,
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Speaker 4: who then had the you know, is using what was
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Speaker 4: Miami's pick right after the Yannis trade. I am begging
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Speaker 4: them not to take Steinbacker's at that point.
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Speaker 1: If they take.
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Speaker 4: Steinbach, you're like every last front court player, all three
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Speaker 4: Michigan guys and Steinbacher gone. Luckily they didn't, and the
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Speaker 4: Hornets snap him up. That pick seems pretty simple. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I guess you can have debates about, you know, could
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Speaker 4: they have traded up there. There were reports while Golden
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Speaker 4: State was on the clock at eleven they ended up
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Speaker 4: taking Yaxl that they were, you know, asking, hey, give
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Speaker 4: me your trade offers. Jeff Peterson said there were definitely
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Speaker 4: trade discussions, but they ended up deciding to take both
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Speaker 4: these players. So I'm sure if you want to say, man,
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Speaker 4: I would have rather see you know, I'd give up
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Speaker 4: this for you know, for Mara or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But when they were on.
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Speaker 4: The clock at fourteen, I find it hard to believe
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Speaker 4: in anybody in Hornet's Nation wanted anybody other than Steinbach.
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Speaker 3: He was really the only option. You're right, I was
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Speaker 3: highly concerned about thirteen if Steinbloch came up there, the
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Speaker 3: whole entire plan, I think essentially with the rail because
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Speaker 3: we had heard that they love Steinbach, penning board pending,
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Speaker 3: but they love Steinbach, heard they love Starts. There was
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Speaker 3: a chance there mac that both those guys could have
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Speaker 3: gone right before or one didn't start. But they may
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Speaker 3: have had a situation here where their entire plan. At
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Speaker 3: least they got part of that plan. And than Anderson,
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Speaker 3: of course, who I've seen the college basketball guys really
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Speaker 3: raise a whole lot about Matt and Orlander were talking
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Speaker 3: about what a great pick that is. The college basketball
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Speaker 3: world seems to really light the Anderson pick. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: as far as Steinbach goes, if it wasn't him, we're
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Speaker 3: looking at kind of an odd combo that we would
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Speaker 3: have never discussed before. We're working at Graves or swing
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Speaker 3: or stir to it. It would have been a weird looking
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Speaker 3: combo for what we thought if Steinbach wasn't on the board.
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Speaker 4: And then I guess maybe you consider going big later
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Speaker 4: in the draft. But if they didn't get steinback, it
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Speaker 4: would have felt like a problem. It would have felt
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Speaker 4: far from my deal. I love this dude. He's on
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Speaker 4: the boards. He's a damn certified animal on the glass.
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Speaker 4: As a freshman, led the country in rebounding. And it's
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Speaker 4: not just on the defensive end. We're talking four plus
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Speaker 4: offensive rebounds per game. His hands are amazing. He catches everything.
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Speaker 4: You were very obsessed yesterday. I shouldn't sy have, says
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Speaker 4: intrigued by the size of his hands yesterday in the
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Speaker 4: basket point to talk about it too. Last week in
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Speaker 4: the basketball world, Met called those Hamburger helpers, so he's
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Speaker 4: got those. When you watch a lot of clips, he
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Speaker 4: is more athletic than if my opinion, then it feels
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Speaker 4: like a lot of people give him credit for a
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Speaker 4: lot of baskets. Are him bone on the break, getting
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Speaker 4: out on the break, and there are some grabbing goes.
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Speaker 4: I'm not a ton, but there's some grabbing goes. There
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Speaker 4: are somewhere he's running a lane and give it to
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Speaker 4: me and let me get it in finish, So the
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Speaker 4: pick and roll stuff, his finishing. His ability is set
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Speaker 4: to pick because he's just this big, sturdy dude and
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Speaker 4: to finish.
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot there.
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Speaker 4: He's far from like a perfect prospect, right, it's going
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Speaker 4: to be interesting four if he's a four or five
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Speaker 4: hybrid type. So where does he play? But they needed size,
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Speaker 4: they needed a baller up front, and they got him
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Speaker 4: a guy that's.
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Speaker 3: Going to you get the sense he's also going to
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Speaker 3: embrace his role, whether it's the screen game, the offensive rebounds.
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Speaker 3: We have star players on this basketball team, but if
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Speaker 3: you can find some guys that buy into their role
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Speaker 3: like that Josh Hart does on the Knicks. He's not
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Speaker 3: necessarily the best player on a team by any means,
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Speaker 3: but He's a guy that completely buies into the hustle,
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Speaker 3: the effort, the rebounding, everything you need to do to win.
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Speaker 3: And I think Steinbock sort of fits into that mold
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Speaker 3: of he's just gonna surround the stars when needed and
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Speaker 3: be a great role guy when he's asked to do it.
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Speaker 1: Early in his career.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he was asked last night, what's the
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Speaker 4: best part of your game? He's had rebounding. He knows,
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Speaker 4: he knows what the hell he does. And they're also
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Speaker 4: we'll talk about it throughout the show. There is some
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Speaker 4: potential on that jump shot shot thirty four percent from three,
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Speaker 4: but at pretty low volume, I think like one point
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Speaker 4: six attempts per game, But it does feel like that
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Speaker 4: could be the next level to unlock, Like if he
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Speaker 4: all the sudden bunk and pick and pop instead of
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Speaker 4: pick and roll every time, picking pop and hit threes.
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Speaker 4: If he can be a floor spacer as well, so
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Speaker 4: and then you put could you play him and Moosa
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Speaker 4: together or he spaces the floor? I know this, good
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Speaker 4: luck getting a rebound when he and Musa.
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Speaker 1: Are on the floor together. Good night, Kurt. I mean,
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Speaker 1: could you.
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Speaker 4: Imagine that, especially on that offensive end, too. Here's a
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Speaker 4: chance they fight each other at some point here. And
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Speaker 4: not even knowing the Anderson pick, you say, the college
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Speaker 4: basketball types that were analyzing the draft like it.
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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they.
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Speaker 4: He was an absolutely amazing college basketball point guard last year.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely amazing. I know eighteen Duke fans. Remember the second
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Speaker 4: half when Topping went out and his dude said, Okay,
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Speaker 4: it's all on me, man, let's go. UT's rally eighteen
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Speaker 4: plus point seven plus assists the majority of his highlight clips.
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Speaker 4: Bone when you watch seem to be running the pick
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Speaker 4: and roll. He was constantly, which is perfect for the
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Speaker 4: NBA game. He is constantly in the pick and roll.
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Speaker 4: And he just he is not some sort of blazing athlete,
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Speaker 4: explosive athlete. I would describe his game more as crafty.
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Speaker 4: And then the shot is absolutely phenomenal. I mean just phenomenal,
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Speaker 4: he says. He said again last night after I got drafted,
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Speaker 4: I think I'm the best shooter in the draft. Analysts,
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Speaker 4: there are many analysts that agree with him. I mean,
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Speaker 4: he's the type of dude Bone that can shoot it
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Speaker 4: off the catch, can shoot it running off screens, off ball,
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Speaker 4: and then he's off the dribble shooting, which also plays
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Speaker 4: a role when he runs pick and roll is huge too,
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Speaker 4: because you can't drop off off that jump shot on
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Speaker 4: the pick and roll. He is tiny. He is tiny,
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Speaker 4: and I worry about teams searching for him and saying
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Speaker 4: we will go after this dude every possession defensively, especially
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Speaker 4: in playoff games bone when they're seeking out in mismatches
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Speaker 4: and the game becomes half courty. He's six one one
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Speaker 4: eighty and he had to gain weight to get him
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Speaker 4: to one to eighty. It feels it sounds like so
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Speaker 4: I'm very concerned defensively, strength wise, stuff like that. So
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Speaker 4: to me, I like the Steinbach pick better. I have
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Speaker 4: more questions. I also am looking at this saying this
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Speaker 4: better not be the Kobe White replacement. First, there's a
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Speaker 4: big difference between him and Kobe White in my opinion. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: that's one of the negatives at first is what does
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Speaker 4: this mean for the rest of their roster? But the
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Speaker 4: individual player to an offense that was already super efficient.
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Speaker 4: Last year, you had a dude that shot forty one
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Speaker 4: and a half percent from three and oh, by the way,
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Speaker 4: also set a school assist record with seven point four
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Speaker 4: in a role where he's going to be second unit
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Speaker 4: and doesn't necessarily have the pressure of the first guys
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Speaker 4: early in his career.
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Speaker 3: Think about that, Mac. You already have Miller, Mello and
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Speaker 3: Kahn an elite shooting trio, and you add this guy
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Speaker 3: in here who is a great three point shooter in
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Speaker 3: his own right. So I see the vision there with
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Speaker 3: Christian Anderson. I do wonder though, if he was the
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Speaker 3: second plan there in that pick, because I do wonder
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Speaker 3: if they wont Starts. They were linked to Starts, they
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Speaker 3: liked Start, they had a great workout there. I think
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Speaker 3: they were all set up to get that Imbach, that
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Speaker 3: Steinbach Starts combo that we thought may happen, and then
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Speaker 3: they sort of got jolted I think a little bit
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Speaker 3: there when Starts went there in.
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Speaker 1: Front of them. That's possible.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I know Norlander was saying last night too,
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Speaker 4: they wanted more as Johnson, So maybe they had to
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Speaker 4: pivot on both those. Maybe they didn't get their number
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Speaker 4: one choice on both of those. But that's what happens
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Speaker 4: when you're drafting fourteen and eighteen. We ain't up in
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Speaker 4: the normal Hornets neighborhood drafting, you know, So I think
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Speaker 4: that could happen.
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Speaker 1: I want a Cameron Carr. I'm not gonna like you.
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Speaker 4: The Anderson pickbone is one where I'm going to be
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Speaker 4: on I'm gonna be able to tell you the positives.
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Speaker 4: The shooting is ridiculous, right, and I can see what
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Speaker 4: they like in pick and roll. But tiny guards like
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Speaker 4: that in the NBA, I don't know, And so I'm
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Speaker 4: not going to sit here and tell you I love
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Speaker 4: that pick. But I'm pretty sure Jeff Peterson knows way
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Speaker 4: more about basketball than I do. I want a Cameron Carr,
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Speaker 4: though I wanted it, and Cameron Carr, in fairness, didn't
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Speaker 4: go for a while. He ended up going to Nixon
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Speaker 4: and Lakers swung a trade and he ended up going
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Speaker 4: down there in the mid twenties. But I would have
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Speaker 4: rather have this freakishly athletic, forty three inch vertical leap,
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Speaker 4: great three point shooting wing like that guy. I can
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Speaker 4: see where that guy fits in the NBA, and I
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Speaker 4: know he needs a bulk up two. He needs to
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Speaker 4: get stronger too. Where do tiny guards fit in the NBA,
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm a little skeptical of that.
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Speaker 3: The NBA comparisons to Ben Darius Garland and some Jamal
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Speaker 3: Murray in there as well, which goes those.
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Speaker 1: Are high end.
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Speaker 3: I've seen Trey Burke also, yes, well, but I'm getting
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Speaker 3: to your point though. That tells me there those are
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Speaker 3: guys that know how to play the game and know
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Speaker 3: what they're good at and what they do well. That's
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Speaker 3: the non explosive athlete type guy Murray and is way
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Speaker 3: taller than him. Murray and Garland are good, but they
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Speaker 3: know how to play the game and it's not always
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Speaker 3: explosion with those.
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Speaker 4: Murray sixty four two fifteen, Murray's three inches and over
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Speaker 4: thirty pounds more than Christian Anders.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't doing a direct size comparison. I was talking
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Speaker 3: about the way they kind of play the game. They're
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Speaker 3: not the most explosively guys.
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Speaker 4: It gets it's a lot easier to play the game
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Speaker 4: at that size that than Chris Anderson at his size.
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Speaker 4: So that that's my concern there. But again there's there's
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Speaker 4: an element of I can sit here and criticize a
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Speaker 4: Jeff Peterson pick like I did last year with con
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Speaker 4: when I thought he's good, but he ain't worth that
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Speaker 4: high of a pick, and I could end up being
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Speaker 4: mocked bone by you and everybody else for the rest
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Speaker 4: of their careers.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that to you.
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Speaker 4: But the Anderson pick, I have to give you my
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Speaker 4: genuine reaction to it.
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Speaker 3: No, I get it. You know, look it was it.
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Speaker 3: We didn't I he was not first on on my listing.
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Speaker 3: What did you want at eighteen? When we were picking,
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Speaker 3: that was a little bit. I thought it was going
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Speaker 3: to be starts. Then he went like, who'd be Wick.
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Speaker 3: We weren't the board at eighteen? Who are you rooting for?
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Speaker 1: At eighteen? It was?
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Speaker 3: It was, it was already done rooting. It was all
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Speaker 3: over the place. I was kind of thinking Fai won
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Speaker 3: would make sense. I like day one swayin there, who
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Speaker 3: well he went fifteen, game's going. But I was thinking,
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Speaker 3: after Steinbach, who would I like for them to take
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Speaker 3: a eighteen.
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Speaker 1: And no car?
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Speaker 3: No car interest? I had interested in cars. I had
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Speaker 3: interest more in car and Filon than I did Anderson.
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Speaker 3: And it does go into the size question.
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Speaker 4: The interesting thing about Fylon is to me, like, and
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Speaker 4: you said this yesterday, and maybe this is good news
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Speaker 4: because maybe it shows they're not trying to get a
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Speaker 4: Kobe replacement. Pilon's game profiles more like Cobes, you know,
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Speaker 4: just immediate scoring off the bench. So maybe there's shows
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Speaker 4: they're not looking for a Kobe White replacement. But if
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Speaker 4: they aren't, what's the role just third string point guard?
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Speaker 1: Right now? I get maybe.
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Speaker 4: So there's a lot to talk about with roles for
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Speaker 4: these guys, and we will do so here on the
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Speaker 4: Mack and Bone Show, nine o'clock hour. Get these boys on.
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Speaker 4: I do think it's very cool that they know each
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Speaker 4: other from the German national team, and you have guys
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Speaker 4: that already have built in chemistry. They could talk about
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Speaker 4: each other. They're both raving about each other last night,
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Speaker 4: so I know we'll do that. We'll get them started
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Speaker 4: talking about each other when they're on in the nine
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Speaker 4: o'clock hour.
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Speaker 1: Mayke a giraffe.
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Speaker 3: Comment also, Meg, I thought last night we were doing
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Speaker 3: well in terms of being able to follow the draft
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Speaker 3: because the win according to plan for the most part.
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Speaker 3: There Oh, this isn't confusing, Guys aren't changing hats.
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Speaker 4: There were the trades for like first, not a lot
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Speaker 4: of trades urteen picks.
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Speaker 3: I was strangely focused. I was following along here, I
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Speaker 3: wasn't behind, and all of a sudden, once that Miami
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Speaker 3: Milwaukee pick started. Ten of the last seventeen picks ended
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Speaker 3: up being traded last night at all hell broke loose
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Speaker 3: to the point where Scott Vampelt was ranting last night
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Speaker 3: about the confusion of these draft picks.
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Speaker 4: It's the dumbest thing, the way they can't just do
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Speaker 4: it like the NFL. And if you know there's a trade,
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Speaker 4: just announced the trade so we know when the pick
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Speaker 4: is made, who's making the pick. I mean, I was
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Speaker 4: dying laughing at the Knicks fans last night, and I
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Speaker 4: mean they got their hardware, so they have the last laugh.
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Speaker 4: But they're playing New York. And then what's the other
17:45
Speaker 4: one that that fitty was playing during the finals?
17:47
Speaker 1: What the hell's that?
17:48
Speaker 4: Goofy saying, oh New York, New York, GOA and the
17:51
Speaker 4: New York go, New York go.
17:52
Speaker 1: And they're dancing around because it's their pick.
17:55
Speaker 4: And on the broadcast, I say, these Knicks fans don't
17:58
Speaker 4: know this show, but this pick is about ready to
17:59
Speaker 4: be made for the Lake and it's just see And
18:01
Speaker 4: we say this every year. It feels like I feel
18:04
Speaker 4: like Van Pelt rant about it every year after the dread,
18:06
Speaker 4: like immediately after the dread like it feels like you
18:09
Speaker 4: can make this pretty simple and just announce the trade
18:13
Speaker 4: and you picked for yourself and you're not picking for
18:16
Speaker 4: somebody else.
18:17
Speaker 1: Because it is insane. It's crazy, man. Yeah.
18:20
Speaker 3: And like I said, we were, we were doing okay,
18:23
Speaker 3: everything was going according to playing, and then it just
18:25
Speaker 3: the wheels fell off there.
18:26
Speaker 4: I was so surprised though that there were no because
18:29
Speaker 4: what it does it gets you paranoid. It's like Maris
18:32
Speaker 4: Johnson has picked and I'm like, because that was with
18:36
Speaker 4: all the rumor Hornets trade ups, and there were more
18:38
Speaker 4: yesterday during the day bone Yep.
18:40
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking, is that a trade up for us? Oh?
18:43
Speaker 4: No, Dusty may look at him over there talking to
18:45
Speaker 4: his former player. Oh, they wouldn't be that chummy if
18:47
Speaker 4: he was trading him. Like, I'm trying to figure out
18:49
Speaker 4: is it a trade, Yaxel?
18:50
Speaker 1: Is that a trade? Mara? Is that a trade? Oh no,
18:54
Speaker 1: they want him for Wemby.
18:55
Speaker 4: They need seven to three to join seven to four
18:57
Speaker 4: Chet and go against Wemby. So I'm just that's what
19:01
Speaker 4: sucks about the draft is you're trying to figure out
19:03
Speaker 4: that we just trade and it turns out Bone no,
19:05
Speaker 4: we did not trade.
19:06
Speaker 3: No, he took Steinbach and Anderson and then Memphis and Okac.
19:10
Speaker 3: We're doing some swapper roos there in front of us.
19:12
Speaker 3: Detroit got involved. Detroit put out a report about one
19:16
Speaker 3: of the deals. Missed some words in the tweet, so
19:18
Speaker 3: it was very confusing. Right before the Hornets picked also
19:21
Speaker 3: of who is picking? Where where's this guy? I was
19:23
Speaker 3: very confused speaking of Detroit.
19:25
Speaker 4: I told you yesterday at the end of the show
19:27
Speaker 4: Bone when you were talking about their speculation that Tyler
19:30
Speaker 4: Hero could be on the move again, maybe Detroit, and
19:33
Speaker 4: I said, please, because they're a team people are mentioned
19:36
Speaker 4: for Kobe White. Well, one of the reports yesterday said
19:39
Speaker 4: Detroit interested in Kobe White.
19:41
Speaker 1: I mean, like it.
19:43
Speaker 4: I already don't even want to think about this team
19:45
Speaker 4: without him. But you then go and put him on
19:48
Speaker 4: that team full of like punk bums.
19:53
Speaker 1: And he's exactly the thing I want.
19:55
Speaker 3: And he's exactly what they need because shooting is a
19:57
Speaker 3: problem for them and he's perfect fit for them.
19:59
Speaker 4: They need more guys to get on the ball other
20:01
Speaker 4: than Kay Cunningham and start creating stuff.
20:03
Speaker 1: But this just then we need him two very badly.
20:07
Speaker 3: I am I am not gonna lie to you, Matt,
20:09
Speaker 3: because I only lie on certain things. The Dusumu deal
20:13
Speaker 3: worries me a little bit there how much he got.
20:15
Speaker 4: I don't give it like I'm twenty five million dollars Kobe.
20:18
Speaker 4: It's yours dude per year. Like I just I don't
20:21
Speaker 4: really care. We have so many contracts expiring Bone after
20:24
Speaker 4: this upcoming season, we can go over the cap to
20:27
Speaker 4: sign him, Like, I just feel like it's non negotiable.
20:32
Speaker 4: Person I agree with like I agree with you. What
20:35
Speaker 4: do they feel about it? And how high will they go?
20:37
Speaker 4: That's a good point, That's what I mean. It doesn't
20:39
Speaker 4: matter if I just if I want to give it
20:41
Speaker 4: to him, I would give him much.
20:42
Speaker 3: I would give him all your money too, but in
20:44
Speaker 3: my money, trust me, that's going to get you a
20:46
Speaker 3: nice uh probably a chief stake somewhere. But I worry you, like,
20:51
Speaker 3: is there a woman that they will go on? I
20:53
Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that.
20:54
Speaker 4: But other teams there's not much cap money around the league,
20:56
Speaker 4: and we can go over the cap.
20:58
Speaker 1: The other teams can't.
20:59
Speaker 4: It's it's it's a real advantage for us, no doubt
21:02
Speaker 4: about it. Do want to mention Bone Braves lose last
21:05
Speaker 4: night and ten innings to San Diego on the road
21:09
Speaker 4: last night, So there's another series that they have lost.
21:11
Speaker 1: This is like three and four.
21:13
Speaker 3: Now, felt like things were turning the corner against the
21:15
Speaker 3: good Milwaukee team won two out of three, and now
21:17
Speaker 3: they've lost three in a row since the last Milwaukee game.
21:19
Speaker 3: So right back to kind of where they were before
21:22
Speaker 3: those two games there. When we come back on the
21:24
Speaker 3: Mac and Bone radio program, the other stuff from yesterday,
21:28
Speaker 3: how about Bryce one of the best football players in
21:31
Speaker 3: the league. While he's voted number ninety eight by the players,
21:33
Speaker 3: we'll talk about that. The NFL slams the door on Sorsby.
21:37
Speaker 3: Could the World Cup grass fields lead to the same
21:41
Speaker 3: for NFL games? All that and more. Sports Radio ninety
21:44
Speaker 3: two seven WFNZ.
22:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:04
Speaker 2: I think look, going into the draft, you're constantly trying
22:06
Speaker 2: to figure out, you know, how you can continue to
22:09
Speaker 2: get talent into this building. And you know, both of
22:13
Speaker 2: those guys, again, they're they're certainly not finished products. They're
22:15
Speaker 2: still young. They're going to continue to get better because
22:17
Speaker 2: they're about the right things. They work, they put the
22:19
Speaker 2: time in, they want to be great. You know, they
22:22
Speaker 2: both played you know, on a big stage this year
22:25
Speaker 2: in various games, and like I said, on the national team.
22:27
Speaker 2: So they certainly bring that aspect. And then you know, look,
22:31
Speaker 2: we'll continue to figure out how to add to the
22:33
Speaker 2: team in free agency over these next couple of weeks.
22:36
Speaker 2: But again tonight, want to keep it about Honess and Christian.
22:42
Speaker 4: There you go, spoiler alerts by the end of the
22:45
Speaker 4: press or Jeff Peterson would not just keep it to
22:47
Speaker 4: Honesson Christian. He was asked about the team being in
22:51
Speaker 4: the weight room. Apparently these boys are pumping iron like
22:54
Speaker 4: Hans and Fronts. But from back in the day, we
22:56
Speaker 4: will pump you up. So that's good to hear. And
23:00
Speaker 4: that's an old reference for those of you that are young.
23:02
Speaker 4: That's old said all right right there, also talked about
23:06
Speaker 4: Kobe White. You'll hear these things as the show goes on.
23:08
Speaker 4: We'll let you hear more of what Jeff Peterson said.
23:11
Speaker 4: And as we said earlier, expected to have both Hannas
23:15
Speaker 4: and Christian Anderson both for first round picks on in
23:19
Speaker 4: the nine o'clock hours. So keep it here, baby, draft
23:22
Speaker 4: reaction on the show, and we'll keep it going, baby,
23:26
Speaker 4: we will keep it going. We'll get into the draft
23:28
Speaker 4: in general to vance a going over Peterson at the top.
23:32
Speaker 4: Boozer and Wilson then slot in three and four, and
23:36
Speaker 4: we'll talk about a couple of Tobacco Road guys that
23:40
Speaker 4: were not drafted last night.
23:42
Speaker 3: At some point back in this hour, we need to
23:44
Speaker 3: explain that one of our listeners that we do love
23:47
Speaker 3: had one of the worst tweets ever last night when
23:49
Speaker 3: it comes to NBA Draft, just the most overreactive noviation.
23:54
Speaker 3: He got destroyed. And I don't think he's woking up
23:57
Speaker 3: yet this morning. To know, weather Man Mark, it's not
23:59
Speaker 3: going to be good for you there, man, Oh no,
24:02
Speaker 3: my heavens, did he never come back?
24:05
Speaker 1: No? Did he? That was it?
24:06
Speaker 3: I guess we try to say what it was right now, Mac,
24:08
Speaker 3: so just so people know, Yeah, we can talk about
24:10
Speaker 3: it later too. This will require airtime later in the show,
24:14
Speaker 3: yes as well, because you and I are wants to
24:16
Speaker 3: know bad draft takes. But weather Man Mark commented on
24:20
Speaker 3: your your tweet said, well, crap, if Steinbach goes at thirteen,
24:25
Speaker 3: that's going to be a real kick in the pants.
24:28
Speaker 3: Weather Man Mark. A listener here then tweeted at or
24:30
Speaker 3: quote tweeted it said you had another. This is before
24:34
Speaker 3: we picked. He had another failed draft by the Hornets.
24:37
Speaker 3: I'm going to bed so unhappy with Peterson. He cannot draft,
24:42
Speaker 3: and I pointed out that con was a pretty great
24:44
Speaker 3: draft choice, and also we have yet to pick in
24:46
Speaker 3: this draft. Weather Man Mark, This man can't draft. He
24:49
Speaker 3: literally can't draft. He's on the board, yet he's very
24:52
Speaker 3: upset that other team's drafted players.
24:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel bad. That was because it was my tweet.
24:58
Speaker 4: He was responding. He got so I bone. I feel
25:01
Speaker 4: like I led to that.
25:02
Speaker 3: It's the biggest ripping since Fitty's Franklin Street take last week.
25:07
Speaker 1: I just cannot believe.
25:09
Speaker 4: I've never seen it before where a guy doesn't even
25:11
Speaker 4: wait for the team to pick and he's already pissed
25:14
Speaker 4: off and he's not blaming the other teams for taking
25:16
Speaker 4: the guys he wanted. I Oh, by the way, spoiler alert,
25:19
Speaker 4: Steinbuck was on the board. Like he was reacting to
25:22
Speaker 4: my tweet saying, oh no, Steinback's gone uh oh, and
25:25
Speaker 4: spoiler alert Steinbeck was on the board. This dude was
25:28
Speaker 4: already snoozing, snoozing away.
25:30
Speaker 3: Man gave up on the draft before we even picked,
25:32
Speaker 3: and he had an incredible pick last year in con
25:36
Speaker 3: and he picked other guys last year that contributed, So
25:38
Speaker 3: I don't know where that came from.
25:39
Speaker 1: Oh Man, all right, anyway.
25:40
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Nuns. That's an all time draft reaction, man.
25:44
Speaker 4: I mean, we overreact to everything, but that was something.
25:47
Speaker 1: Baby.
25:47
Speaker 4: All right, Let's go through the non draft stuff here
25:51
Speaker 4: for a few minutes. There's not gonna be a whole
25:52
Speaker 4: lot on the show today where we're not talking about
25:55
Speaker 4: the draft and what the Hornets did. But let's hit
25:58
Speaker 4: because there were some notable things Bone, that happened yesterday elsewhere.
26:02
Speaker 4: We will start with Bryce Young being number forty eight
26:06
Speaker 4: on the top one hundred list. This is voted on
26:09
Speaker 4: by the players. This is not you know, goofballs like
26:11
Speaker 4: us in the media. This is the peers of Bryce
26:15
Speaker 4: Young voting him number ninety eight overall in this top
26:19
Speaker 4: one hundred. This is the thing used to be a
26:21
Speaker 4: show on the NFL network. Now it's now an NFL
26:24
Speaker 4: Plus thing where they we're releasing to a day. And
26:27
Speaker 4: I have to be honest with you, Bone, when when
26:30
Speaker 4: I sat here yesterday and said Cameron Jordan at his
26:33
Speaker 4: age is number one hundred, Derek Brown better be on
26:35
Speaker 4: this list. If you were to tell me, well, Bryce
26:37
Speaker 4: is going to be on that list. I love Bryce.
26:41
Speaker 4: I I And if any Panther fan tells you they
26:44
Speaker 4: were expecting Bryce to be on this list, I'm going
26:47
Speaker 4: to tell you they're lying.
26:48
Speaker 3: Polygraph those fools immediately. But it was number one quarterback
26:52
Speaker 3: on the list right now.
26:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, he's but it's a pleasant surprise, and
26:57
Speaker 4: it speaks to his peers are noticing. He is in
27:00
Speaker 4: rooved each season. His peers are noticing. And we'll talk
27:05
Speaker 4: about it next hour, you know, more at length. I
27:08
Speaker 4: do want to see if all how the Bryce haters
27:10
Speaker 4: feel about this, that the players are thinking he deserves
27:13
Speaker 4: to be ranked, but the whole like each guy gets
27:17
Speaker 4: like a two minute like video piece, right, and there's
27:20
Speaker 4: other players around the league. There's JC Horn talking, there's
27:23
Speaker 4: Bryce Young talking, and the theme of the piece is
27:26
Speaker 4: how clutch Bryce Young has been the most game winning
27:30
Speaker 4: drives and fourth quarter comebacks in the NFL as a
27:34
Speaker 4: quarterback since he came into the league, and they focused
27:36
Speaker 4: a lot on that. So that's the first thing it
27:38
Speaker 4: feels like got the attention of his peers is that
27:41
Speaker 4: they noticed that, as JC called him.
27:44
Speaker 1: He is ice young in the Crunch moments.
27:46
Speaker 5: You know.
27:48
Speaker 3: And with Bryce Krack in the list, it makes me
27:50
Speaker 3: wonder how many Panthers could be on this thing, because
27:54
Speaker 3: if Bryce is on there, Derek Brown has to be
27:56
Speaker 3: on there somewhere this year. I'd be stunned if he's not.
27:59
Speaker 3: We've got horn. Does Devin Lloyd crack this list at all?
28:02
Speaker 3: There's Jayleen Fay. Do we end up mac with three
28:05
Speaker 3: or four guys on this list this year? Is that possible?
28:08
Speaker 1: Yeah?
28:08
Speaker 4: I was wondering. I was thinking about that too. It
28:10
Speaker 4: does funny how Mary married. I don't know if he'll
28:12
Speaker 4: make it, but to me, he should be on there.
28:14
Speaker 4: I don't know if he would or not. But Marrick's
28:16
Speaker 4: another one, T Mac. I would wonder if T Mac
28:19
Speaker 4: could make it. I like Damian Lewis personally. I think
28:23
Speaker 4: he's I think he's one of the most overrated players
28:24
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I wonder if he could get a
28:27
Speaker 4: little bit of love. To show you bone? How did
28:30
Speaker 4: they say number thirty three?
28:33
Speaker 1: JJ? Jey? Yeah, how do you?
28:35
Speaker 4: I'm glad you mentioned him. I snubbed him. I snubbed
28:38
Speaker 4: JJ to show you bone. How notable that would be.
28:42
Speaker 4: By the way, the Panthers have not had multiple players
28:45
Speaker 4: on the list since twenty nineteen, and the last two
28:50
Speaker 4: years they went with nobody on the list.
28:52
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this.
28:53
Speaker 4: Derek Brown hasn't made it in two years, like in
28:55
Speaker 4: last two years.
28:56
Speaker 1: The better he's got his peers on there.
28:58
Speaker 4: The guys that he is heaving in the air, And
29:02
Speaker 4: y'all are y'all not voting for Derek Brown because he
29:04
Speaker 4: just tossed you like a ragdall. Seriously, it's unbelievable. I
29:08
Speaker 4: sound like Willie pe seriously. So anyway, it's a good point,
29:12
Speaker 4: Bone And we are now on Panther player watch to
29:15
Speaker 4: see if we get anybody else on this list.
29:17
Speaker 3: Remember, this list doesn't matter on West Panthers make the list,
29:20
Speaker 3: then it really matters.
29:23
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts signs a three year deal with Atlanta. Three
29:26
Speaker 4: year deal with Atlanta fifty four million dollars thirty six
29:30
Speaker 4: million guaranteed. He becomes Bone d third highest paid tight
29:34
Speaker 4: end in the NFL at eighteen million per year. And
29:38
Speaker 4: I view this as you know, when they pay Jon right, like,
29:42
Speaker 4: I don't really care, like the Kyle Pitt's a good player,
29:47
Speaker 4: I do think he's clearly a bit inconsistent, and it'll
29:50
Speaker 4: be interesting to see what version of him you get
29:52
Speaker 4: when he now that he has gotten paid. But like,
29:56
Speaker 4: they have always been good at these skill position spots,
30:00
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? How good is their defense
30:02
Speaker 4: going to be? Their offensive line and of course their
30:05
Speaker 4: quarterback play. Those are the positions where they could take
30:08
Speaker 4: them to another level. They've always had three good fantasy
30:11
Speaker 4: football players on their team. Yeah, that didn't really move
30:14
Speaker 4: me in any way. I don't have a fear of
30:16
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts. There are panther there are guys in the
30:19
Speaker 4: division that we feared. What just left in Mike Evans
30:23
Speaker 4: where you go, oh, go get him, get him out
30:25
Speaker 4: of here. That good riddance, Mike Evans has finally gone.
30:27
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts. I don't lose sleep over him. Good player,
30:31
Speaker 4: not great.
30:32
Speaker 3: But Atlanta, as you said, they're always going to have
30:35
Speaker 3: dynamic offensive players. I don't lose sleep over that. But
30:38
Speaker 3: who's throwing the football? What's their coaching?
30:41
Speaker 4: Like?
30:41
Speaker 1: What's their defense? Like?
30:42
Speaker 4: I don't have fear Pits. I do not, And they
30:45
Speaker 4: used a ton of cap room on them. You know,
30:48
Speaker 4: only George Kittle and McBride are paid more than him
30:50
Speaker 4: at the tight end position. So they donated a lot
30:53
Speaker 4: of money to the tight end donated like it's a charity.
30:55
Speaker 4: They used a lot of money at that tight end spot.
30:58
Speaker 4: Is pit's really worth all that in cap room?
31:00
Speaker 1: You know? So that one to me. I looked at
31:03
Speaker 1: that and.
31:03
Speaker 4: Like, go ahead, you go ahead and pay him that
31:05
Speaker 4: sort of money the NFL. I knew this was coming, Bone,
31:09
Speaker 4: I knew this was coming with and it probably should
31:12
Speaker 4: It probably should be a deal when NFL players, Bone,
31:17
Speaker 4: look around, look at the World Cup on their TVs
31:21
Speaker 4: and see all these NFL stadiums magically with grass turf,
31:24
Speaker 4: and we see it here when TEP puts it down, Bone, these.
31:27
Speaker 1: Aren't NFL stadiums.
31:29
Speaker 3: Back, I only see Seattle Stadium, Miami Stadium, Philadelphia Stadium.
31:32
Speaker 3: But these are not where NFL teams playing right clearly,
31:35
Speaker 3: FIFA won't let you call him by their real names.
31:37
Speaker 4: But lo and behold, they are NFL stadiums, and you
31:41
Speaker 4: don't get international soccer without putting down grass temporary. So
31:47
Speaker 4: this George Kittle was going off in a profanity laced
31:51
Speaker 4: podcast tie Rate about they could easily do this for
31:55
Speaker 4: us if they gave a bleep about us as players.
31:58
Speaker 4: Jason Garrett, who really doesn't say anything controversial, hardly about
32:03
Speaker 4: the most vanilla bland dude you can find, like he's
32:05
Speaker 4: basically a Salteine cracker on.
32:07
Speaker 1: TV with red hair.
32:09
Speaker 4: He came out and basically said, shoot, the international you
32:14
Speaker 4: know soccer community tells you you ain't getting us if
32:16
Speaker 4: you don't put grass down. He says, maybe the players
32:19
Speaker 4: should do that, Maybe that should be their stance. So
32:23
Speaker 4: there is a lot of noise. JC Tretder of the
32:25
Speaker 4: Players Union, has been saying the same thing. I know,
32:28
Speaker 4: it's only temporary grass, and they would argue the maintenance
32:32
Speaker 4: costs of maintaining it. I'm sure Tepper would say here
32:35
Speaker 4: in the South too, it's harder to maintain regular grass.
32:39
Speaker 4: But it is a valid point. These are your actual
32:42
Speaker 4: employees and you don't give them what has studies have
32:47
Speaker 4: proven is the safer you know, playing service.
32:50
Speaker 3: It's the most ridiculous thing ever, that the owners don't
32:53
Speaker 3: listen to the players in an era where player safety
32:56
Speaker 3: is preached, a lot of the concussion stuff and a
33:01
Speaker 3: lot of it is about the what is best or
33:04
Speaker 3: what is said is it's about what's best for the players.
33:07
Speaker 3: The players are screaming to you, we need what's best
33:11
Speaker 3: for us. Help us out. This will be what's better
33:14
Speaker 3: for the game, and they just won't do it. So
33:17
Speaker 3: it's it's ridiculous. Don't preach players safety, and when the
33:21
Speaker 3: players say, hey, we need a little help here, they
33:23
Speaker 3: don't do anything about it. So it's it's patently absurd
33:26
Speaker 3: that they don't listen to the players, including of the
33:29
Speaker 3: oder here, I will.
33:30
Speaker 4: Say, but they probably listen their wallets, you know, like
33:35
Speaker 4: that's always been my question.
33:36
Speaker 1: Here my wall. It's very quiet by the way here
33:39
Speaker 1: now there is you will it's mute.
33:42
Speaker 4: You're well, I hadn't said a word, You're well, it's
33:46
Speaker 4: like silent Bob has said a word.
33:51
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm sorry, but not like it hurts, because it's true.
33:53
Speaker 1: Not like I got much in my wallet.
33:55
Speaker 3: I would have more if Harry Kane could have put
33:57
Speaker 3: a ball in the net yesterday. But anyway, I digress.
33:59
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Oh man, it's.
34:02
Speaker 1: Are you coming back to earth on the bet on
34:03
Speaker 1: the soccer battic bone? Is reality hitting you?
34:05
Speaker 4: I got a witch doctor, Yesterdy, Yes, there is a Ghanaian.
34:10
Speaker 4: Is that how I say, Ghanaian witch doctor who has
34:13
Speaker 4: previously put a curse on Rinaldo, who is taking credit
34:17
Speaker 4: for Harry kane struggles yesterday, real quick, I do need
34:21
Speaker 4: to mention this Brendan Soarsby thing. This Brendon Soorsby thing
34:24
Speaker 4: would get like two or three segments boned if it
34:26
Speaker 4: happened on its own, if it happened next week, right,
34:29
Speaker 4: But it happened on the day of the NBA Draft,
34:31
Speaker 4: and the Hornets took two picks in the first round,
34:33
Speaker 4: so it's not gonna get talked about much. The NFL
34:37
Speaker 4: denying Brendan Soresby and telling him there would be no
34:42
Speaker 4: supplemental draft, and some of the reasoning they gave, I mean,
34:47
Speaker 4: I guess they can't come out and say, hey, we
34:49
Speaker 4: don't want you having easy access to this league, come
34:54
Speaker 4: and see us next year because you bet on your
34:56
Speaker 4: own team. I guess they feel like they would be
34:59
Speaker 4: susceptible in cour But this thing is already going to
35:01
Speaker 4: head to court. His high priced attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, is
35:05
Speaker 4: already talking about taking this thing to court. But some
35:08
Speaker 4: of their reasoning, like you didn't give teams enough time
35:11
Speaker 4: to evaluate him. Your deadline is June twenty second, and
35:16
Speaker 4: he applied for the supplemental draft on the nineteenth r
35:20
Speaker 4: I make the deadline on the twenty second. If teams
35:22
Speaker 4: need more time to evaluate players, we have to good
35:25
Speaker 4: a point because you know, Bone, what supplemental draft pick
35:29
Speaker 4: players are usually from messed up situations that probably deserve
35:32
Speaker 4: a little more vetting. Now this one probably more than usual.
35:35
Speaker 4: They also claim Bone that we will not hold a
35:38
Speaker 4: supplemental draft for you because you have not been accountable
35:42
Speaker 4: about your actions. Is that like, is that a rule
35:45
Speaker 4: for the supplemental draft? Like you got to be accountable? Like,
35:48
Speaker 4: I just have so many questions about whether they can
35:50
Speaker 4: legally do this, and I guess.
35:52
Speaker 1: We're about ready to find this out.
35:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the they're trying to send a message
35:56
Speaker 3: to the rest of the college players in their own
36:00
Speaker 3: players about the slippery slope that they ride when it
36:04
Speaker 3: comes to sports gambling and their sponsors and their tie ins.
36:07
Speaker 3: So yeah, that sends a clear message there.
36:09
Speaker 1: Of Loo, we.
36:13
Speaker 3: Let a lot of players in this league that do
36:14
Speaker 3: some things, but when it comes to the gambling, we're
36:17
Speaker 3: gonna put a stanty or not made this thing easy
36:19
Speaker 3: for this guy to get in here.
36:20
Speaker 4: Listen, listen, if he has to sit out a year
36:22
Speaker 4: football and then is in the draft next year, sitting
36:26
Speaker 4: out of euro basically a year's suspension from football for
36:29
Speaker 4: what he did when every competitor should know that is
36:32
Speaker 4: you talk about a no no list, Bony, Yeah, that
36:35
Speaker 4: is right up there on the no no list.
36:36
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to cry for him too much.
36:38
Speaker 1: It is just.
36:41
Speaker 4: It's just a bit surprising to me that they would
36:43
Speaker 4: do this, and I thought their reasoning sound a little convoluted,
36:46
Speaker 4: Like his attorney Kessler is flat out saying, you're saying
36:50
Speaker 4: that we didn't provide this, and we didn't provide that.
36:53
Speaker 4: We asked you multiple times, do you need anything else?
36:55
Speaker 4: And you didn't tell us we needed anything else, and
36:57
Speaker 4: now you're telling us that we needed these other things,
37:00
Speaker 4: so you know what I mean, Like they're reason for
37:03
Speaker 4: it seems.
37:03
Speaker 1: A little bsy.
37:05
Speaker 3: And when you have a guy like Jeffrey kessel Or,
37:07
Speaker 3: he's not going to go quietly into the night here,
37:09
Speaker 3: So they're going to attack this thing. They're talking about
37:12
Speaker 3: the violating the CBA, and the NFLPA will be involved here.
37:17
Speaker 1: Mack.
37:17
Speaker 3: I heard the nc DOUBLEA called the NFL and said, hey,
37:19
Speaker 3: good luck at court there.
37:21
Speaker 1: We're pulling for you on this one. You're in. You
37:25
Speaker 1: get to deal with Jeffrey Kessler.
37:26
Speaker 4: Now, I mean Jeffrey Kessler has already kicked the NCAA's
37:30
Speaker 4: rear end on the House settlement. So anyway, so there
37:33
Speaker 4: will be lawyers and there will be there will be
37:37
Speaker 4: courtroom drama on this thing. I know everybody's shocked by
37:39
Speaker 4: that in today's current climate, no doubt.
37:42
Speaker 3: When we come back here on the Macambo Show, we
37:45
Speaker 3: recap the rest of the draft picks that stood out.
37:49
Speaker 3: A couple of Tobacco Road players may have regrets for
37:52
Speaker 3: their decision. Sports Radio ninety two seven wfnzh h.
38:15
Speaker 2: M.
38:20
Speaker 1: Do you think this team will be aggressive and free agency? Yeah?
38:24
Speaker 2: I think we gotta look we gotta look at everything
38:27
Speaker 2: right now. My My job, of course, is to to
38:29
Speaker 2: do what's best for the organization. So if there's a
38:32
Speaker 2: move that that can be made that that helps us,
38:35
Speaker 2: you know, continue to take a step forward, absolutely, we're
38:38
Speaker 2: gonna look at it. You know, I think I've said
38:40
Speaker 2: it before. I just want to be uh disciplined with
38:43
Speaker 2: our approach in terms of you know, the assets that
38:45
Speaker 2: we do have. I feel like we've been pretty strategic
38:47
Speaker 2: in gathering them, so just figured out again what that's
38:51
Speaker 2: going to look like moving forward. But again, you guys
38:54
Speaker 2: know me by now, I'm always gonna look look at
38:56
Speaker 2: what I can do to continue to make the organization
38:58
Speaker 2: better in the short end long term.
39:00
Speaker 4: As Jeff Peterson last night, after taking Hans Steinbach at
39:03
Speaker 4: fourteen and Christian Anderson Texas tech point guard at eighteen
39:08
Speaker 4: last night, was asked there about free agency, and of
39:10
Speaker 4: course he's gonna.
39:11
Speaker 1: Play a coy.
39:12
Speaker 4: He's not gonna he's not gonna give you a whole
39:13
Speaker 4: game plan.
39:15
Speaker 1: I'd like to ask about trades.
39:17
Speaker 4: We want to revisit any trades that didn't happen during
39:21
Speaker 4: the draft, And do we want to get Kobe White signed?
39:24
Speaker 4: The legal you know, the period to begin negotiating with
39:29
Speaker 4: free agents bone is June thirtieth, next week, So it's
39:33
Speaker 4: coming up quick man. We are gonna be here within
39:35
Speaker 4: a week. We are gonna be a free agency and
39:38
Speaker 4: we are going to be on Kobe whitewatch. If we're
39:41
Speaker 4: not already next week at this time, big time. So anyway,
39:46
Speaker 4: things are gonna happen fast man. In this NBA off season,
39:49
Speaker 4: obviously throughout the day we're gonna talk all about the Hornets.
39:52
Speaker 4: Taking Steinbach and Anderson, two guys that know each other
39:55
Speaker 4: well from the German national team. We will discuss that
39:59
Speaker 4: is there a pick you like more than the other one?
40:01
Speaker 4: It is interesting you brought this up earlier in the show.
40:05
Speaker 4: It does seem all my good work is crafted. It
40:07
Speaker 4: does seem like the grades bone. I almost think Anderson's
40:12
Speaker 4: getting better draft grades. Again, draft grades you can print
40:15
Speaker 4: them out and use them as you know what. But like,
40:18
Speaker 4: it does feel like he's getting and it feels like
40:21
Speaker 4: in Charlotte, I expect the Anderson pick to be the
40:24
Speaker 4: polarizing one and the Steinbach to be the more beloved pick.
40:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like the college basketball world likes Anderson.
40:31
Speaker 3: We also have high praise Bach from uh. I printed
40:35
Speaker 3: it out. I may have lost the Loston damn cheet here.
40:39
Speaker 3: Bobby Marx had some high praise for his favorite pick
40:43
Speaker 3: of the non lottery guys fit the team of the
40:46
Speaker 3: non lottery players, and Anderson was his favorite pick of
40:49
Speaker 3: the draft. Yeah, very interesting. I had to write up
40:52
Speaker 3: here somewhere, but I lost it on the way. Now
40:54
Speaker 3: those guys no more ball than me. I mean, I'm
40:56
Speaker 3: pretty Matt on the Anderson pick. But again, that might
40:59
Speaker 3: be a good sign.
41:00
Speaker 4: That might be the best thing Christian Anderson can hear
41:03
Speaker 4: for his career is the MacMan.
41:06
Speaker 1: Is he on the pick?
41:07
Speaker 3: They may raise his jersey during Summer League.
41:11
Speaker 4: Beep, speaking of Summer League, Beebop has made a declaration,
41:15
Speaker 4: says he's hyped. We're gonna be back to back Summer
41:18
Speaker 4: League champs. These two guys think about Summer League. They
41:21
Speaker 4: already got chemistry bone, they already play together, they already
41:24
Speaker 4: run picking rolls together for the German You nineteen team.
41:28
Speaker 4: That chemistry just right there on the summer league floor.
41:31
Speaker 1: Bone.
41:32
Speaker 3: And do some of them do they try to run
41:34
Speaker 3: it back? Do some of the players return for summer league?
41:36
Speaker 3: You would figure calke Brenner, Sion McNeely. Don't you think
41:40
Speaker 3: I would? I would think so, yeah, Oh we're going.
41:43
Speaker 3: T Jon still might be in there for all we know.
41:46
Speaker 3: T Jon gonna be in Summer League. As a matter
41:48
Speaker 3: of fact, Max Summer League meets so much. I have
41:50
Speaker 3: a text year from Walker Mayle. He wants the whole
41:53
Speaker 3: Horned squad to be in the Summer League this year.
41:55
Speaker 1: He says.
41:56
Speaker 4: He says, if you put the whole squad in, he'll
41:58
Speaker 4: pay seventy dollars for a T shirt.
41:59
Speaker 1: This year you win the championship.
42:02
Speaker 3: I love a huge day for Bebop though Hornets with
42:05
Speaker 3: two new young guys and Bryce Young made the NFL
42:08
Speaker 3: Top one hundreds.
42:10
Speaker 4: By the way, I loved is let's hit it on
42:12
Speaker 4: a couple of other things with the draft obviously debatsa
42:16
Speaker 4: went one Peterson two.
42:19
Speaker 1: We'll see, that'll be a debate.
42:21
Speaker 4: I'm sure their whole careers, you know of you know
42:25
Speaker 4: who the better player is between the two of those guys.
42:28
Speaker 4: Then you have Caleb or you have Cameron Bowser three,
42:32
Speaker 4: Caleb Wilson four. No surprises there. I love seeing Hubert there,
42:37
Speaker 4: the fact that you know Hubert doesn't have to go
42:39
Speaker 4: to that he's not coaching at his class. It's not
42:41
Speaker 4: one of those pr appearances as a coach or the
42:44
Speaker 4: old Caliperry thing where it's like, let me get in
42:46
Speaker 4: a camera shot so all the future recruits know, I
42:49
Speaker 4: put a guy in the NBA baby.
42:51
Speaker 1: You know he didn't have to be there.
42:52
Speaker 4: And so yeah, it is a class move and you
42:55
Speaker 4: could tell afterwards it meant a lot to Caleb because
42:57
Speaker 4: of that. The thing that kills me out the draft
43:00
Speaker 4: yesterday last night, Bone, And I'm not right about many things,
43:05
Speaker 4: asked my wife. She would argue, I'm not right about
43:07
Speaker 4: anything but I and we'll see how their careers play out.
43:13
Speaker 4: I thought in the Nio era, I thought that Henry
43:17
Speaker 4: Vsar and Isaiah Evans should not have gone into the draft.
43:22
Speaker 4: I thought, literally they could have made more money per
43:26
Speaker 4: year playing another year at college basketball than he would
43:29
Speaker 4: have made anyway being a late first round pick. Neither
43:31
Speaker 4: one of those guys gets picked. And I just I'm
43:36
Speaker 4: very much player power, do what you want. I have
43:39
Speaker 4: never been somebody Bone that has been you know, gets
43:41
Speaker 4: irate when a guy leaves school and you're making your
43:43
Speaker 4: own life decisions. But I really hope more people realize, Shoot,
43:48
Speaker 4: you mean, I can work on my game and make
43:50
Speaker 4: five million dollars per year. Like this isn't like the
43:53
Speaker 4: old days, Bone, when guys felt they needed to be
43:56
Speaker 4: in a hurry to go get that chetna, you know
43:58
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, so, I just this is not
44:01
Speaker 4: second guessing, This is first guessing. I especially thought of
44:05
Speaker 4: it about Evans, but I thought about about Vesar too.
44:07
Speaker 4: I just more of these guys, take your NIO money
44:11
Speaker 4: and work on your game.
44:12
Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like a last Night was not
44:15
Speaker 3: about the international players. There was very few in that draft.
44:20
Speaker 3: It was a lot about albeit young guys. Early on,
44:23
Speaker 3: it was a lot about the college players. So I
44:27
Speaker 3: understand the temptation of going to get that scroll up
44:30
Speaker 3: right away. But nowadays, the thing with Evan Fitty could
44:36
Speaker 3: speak on Vasaar in that decision. The Evan stuff Mack
44:38
Speaker 3: was this though it never felt like it was much
44:41
Speaker 3: of a debate for him, It felt like as soon
44:44
Speaker 3: as that season ended, he was gone. It wasn't like
44:47
Speaker 3: he tested the waters, was contemplating coming back or whatever.
44:51
Speaker 3: It felt like as soon as that season was over,
44:53
Speaker 3: no matter where he was going to be picked, right
44:56
Speaker 3: or wrong, he was gone.
44:57
Speaker 1: Whether he was thirty.
44:58
Speaker 3: Fifth pick, twentieth pick, Evans had his mind made up
45:02
Speaker 3: that he was gone. So that's the other thing too. Nowadays,
45:06
Speaker 3: spend a little more time rather than just say I'm gone,
45:09
Speaker 3: need the money, Maybe spend a little more time in
45:11
Speaker 3: the decision rather than just I'm gonna play two years
45:14
Speaker 3: and I'm gone.
45:14
Speaker 1: We'll evaluate it further than that.
45:16
Speaker 4: Dude, they are going to pay you four five million
45:19
Speaker 4: maybe more to work on your game.
45:21
Speaker 1: We'll get the money.
45:22
Speaker 4: And I just thought, I don't understand why is it,
45:24
Speaker 4: But yet you want to go make two million a
45:26
Speaker 4: year in the or like it happened with Vasar and Evans,
45:31
Speaker 4: you end up not going in the first round in
45:32
Speaker 4: your contract's not guaranteed. I just in this era, man,
45:37
Speaker 4: like this is a no brainer to me. By the way,
45:40
Speaker 4: it is frustrating to see guys too.
45:41
Speaker 3: They Sar can get paid to go play at UNC
45:44
Speaker 3: with his presence there puts them on another level for
45:48
Speaker 3: next season. Also, he would get a full season with
45:51
Speaker 3: Michael Malone also, who's great with international bigs.
45:55
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I had But you know, I did an
45:59
Speaker 5: NBA draft preview for my podcast, and all four mock
46:02
Speaker 5: drafts MAC had him in the first round. I saw
46:04
Speaker 5: him as high as twenty three to Atlanta, as low
46:07
Speaker 5: to twenty seven with Boston. So like i'd kind of
46:10
Speaker 5: like accepted that he decided to move on, because you
46:13
Speaker 5: remember when he left, I was very upset because I
46:15
Speaker 5: thought he was making a wrong decision. So, like I
46:18
Speaker 5: expected to hear his name called last night.
46:20
Speaker 1: He wasn't every mind, so was Evans and his name
46:22
Speaker 1: doesn't get called.
46:23
Speaker 5: And now I can't help but think when I look
46:25
Speaker 5: at my college basketball team, what's the big question going
46:28
Speaker 5: in the next year? Hey, what's the front Corgllelly, Because
46:32
Speaker 5: you've got international players Cada and Sammduol from from Greece.
46:37
Speaker 5: If Big Henry was on the roster, MAC they'd be
46:40
Speaker 5: a top ten team in the country, and they'd be
46:42
Speaker 5: they'd be a what they'd be guaranteed pick to finish
46:46
Speaker 5: top three in the ACC. They're gonna be borderline top
46:49
Speaker 5: twenty five, and they'll be borderline top four in the preseason.
46:52
Speaker 1: I love the way fitty bo. Did you see what
46:54
Speaker 1: Fitty did there? Y'all? That's fitty one oh one. Let
46:56
Speaker 1: me turn this around to a selfish take. Look what
47:00
Speaker 1: you've done to UNC and you didn't even go in
47:02
Speaker 1: the first round.
47:03
Speaker 5: Mine got a selfish take was did I say anything
47:06
Speaker 5: that was incorrect?
47:06
Speaker 1: You turned it around what he did to your target.
47:10
Speaker 1: It was a vet move. It was a move.
47:12
Speaker 4: It's almost like Fitny is now. He might have even
47:14
Speaker 4: tricked himself. You might be such a selfish fan you
47:17
Speaker 4: might not even know that you did it. My take
47:19
Speaker 4: is sheer life advice to these young bucks. Go take
47:22
Speaker 4: the red. I don't even care if you stay at
47:24
Speaker 4: your school like Henry and Isaiah. Make it a bidding war, bro,
47:28
Speaker 4: I don't even care. I won't hate on you. I
47:30
Speaker 4: might actually Duke and Carolina Mac might hate on you,
47:33
Speaker 4: but like, just advice for these players. Make it a
47:35
Speaker 4: bidding war. Make as much an ile money as you
47:37
Speaker 4: can work on the game. Like that's what this is about.
47:40
Speaker 4: Finny turned it around to sorry, Macca, what you did to.
47:44
Speaker 1: The tar heels and you didn't even get guaranteed? Buddy, Yeah, bombam.
47:47
Speaker 5: As a twenty nine year old that's about to go
47:49
Speaker 5: live with his grandmother, I don't feel like I'm in
47:52
Speaker 5: the best position possible to give life advice. I'm not
47:57
Speaker 5: sure I should either. Actually, Oh, you've got it all, Mac,
47:59
Speaker 5: your mayor. You've got a happy wife, you got two
48:01
Speaker 5: kids that love you, two dogs.
48:04
Speaker 4: Have you talked to missus MC lately? Are sure she's happy?
48:07
Speaker 4: That feels day to day.
48:08
Speaker 1: I got added tode there some days maybe, but many
48:11
Speaker 1: days probably not.
48:12
Speaker 5: I got actually Virgin River group chat with the Bone.
48:14
Speaker 5: We have conversations Wednesdays at ten am.
48:17
Speaker 3: You talk more Virgin River than I do at this point.
48:19
Speaker 3: Get off, Get off.
48:21
Speaker 4: The Virgin River, all right, Cornelius rob once so did
48:24
Speaker 4: Finny cry in the shower when Visa announced he was leaving.
48:27
Speaker 1: No, that was.
48:29
Speaker 5: Only reserved for Cormack Ryan at quarterback ride.
48:31
Speaker 1: Only damn it.
48:34
Speaker 3: When we come back on the Mac and Bone Shows
48:36
Speaker 3: seven o'clock hour, did the Hornet strap Paul view up?
48:40
Speaker 3: What did you like most about their picks?
48:43
Speaker 1: Last night? On Sports Radio ninety two seven WFZ