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Will Bad Bunny Be a Uniter at the Super Bowl? · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: We have the Turning Point USA halftime show. But there's
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  Speaker 1: also news about somebody else who was great on American
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  Speaker 1: Idol that would be the first winner, Kelly Clarkson. She
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  Speaker 1: is hanging up her TV show, which he's done for
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  Speaker 1: seven years. And I took this opportunity to just show
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  Speaker 1: some love to the Burleson girl, because not only is
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  Speaker 1: she one of the great I mean since streisand one
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  Speaker 1: of the voices do you agree with me? One of
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  Speaker 1: the great voices of our time. And then she turned
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  Speaker 1: around and did something I wanna say. It's harder, but
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of great singers, not too many
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  Speaker 1: people who can do a TV talk show and do
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  Speaker 1: it with style and skill and grace, and she has
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  Speaker 1: done it. She's great. Love her, and she has given
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  Speaker 1: me a gift to me. She went out on tour
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  Speaker 1: after she won American Idol, and the new season of
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  Speaker 1: Idol is underway and it's great too, so many narratives,
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  Speaker 1: so many people, it's uplifting. Watch it with your family.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a lot of fun. But coming out as
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  Speaker 1: that phenomenon began, I said, Okay, this will be fun.
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  Speaker 1: Probably not going to get any real big stars out
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  Speaker 1: of this, and quite frankly, most of the winners remain obscure.
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  Speaker 1: But after she won and became one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: stars in America, she tooled around and did some radio tours.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson was on the show with me like a
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  Speaker 1: year after she won, and she was already selling millions
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  Speaker 1: of records, and we had her do a liner where
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  Speaker 1: you sit her down. It's like, hey, I'm Joe Blow
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  Speaker 1: Whenever I'm in town. I listened to Mike Gallagher show, right,
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  Speaker 1: So she sat down and said I got one, said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's Kelly Clarkson. Whenever I'm back in town in DFW.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to the Mark Davis Show on WBAP. He
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  Speaker 1: said at one point that no big stars were gonna
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  Speaker 1: come out of American Idol. How you like me now,
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  Speaker 1: talk show Boy. That's where talk show.
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  Speaker 2: Boy was born, the great Kelly Clarkson.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, good for you, know how hanging up the
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  Speaker 1: show to do family stuff, So good for her.
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  Speaker 3: You know how in life there are things that come
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  Speaker 3: up that are painful. You know, You'll you'll see somebody
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  Speaker 3: or a topic will come up and you get a
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  Speaker 3: pang in your heart and you remember something that's awfully
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  Speaker 3: painful of Kelly Clarkson represents one of the most painful
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  Speaker 3: chapters of my life. And I'm not exaggerating that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Kelly Clarkson is the reason that I was and it's
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  Speaker 3: not her, Incidentally, was all me. I was on the
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  Speaker 3: couch for three days in the fetal position over Kelly
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  Speaker 3: Clarkson because of something that I said on the air
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  Speaker 3: with Chris Wallace years ago. Kelly Clarkson put on a
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  Speaker 3: ton of weight. Of course, she had been she had
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  Speaker 3: had a baby, I think, and she was really really big.
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  Speaker 3: And Chris Wallace and I used to do a Friday segment. Chris,
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  Speaker 3: of course back in the day when he was normal
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  Speaker 3: and he was on Fox News before he broke, and
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  Speaker 3: we had a great, great rapport. It's the fact that's
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  Speaker 3: very much like the eminem experience is today. Great chemistry.
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  Speaker 3: And it was different with him because he would let
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  Speaker 3: us kind of let his hair down on Fridays and
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  Speaker 3: he would he would cut up with me, and people
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  Speaker 3: just loved it. They loved the Chris Wallace segment. Well,
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  Speaker 3: he always made fun of my weight. He always teased
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  Speaker 3: me about being overweight, and I made a joke about
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  Speaker 3: I said, yeah, well, I had a Domino's pizza last
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  Speaker 3: night and I ordered a whole I ate the whole pizza,
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  Speaker 3: but the good news is I ordered thin crust, so
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  Speaker 3: it should be okay. Well then for some reason, for
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  Speaker 3: some unexplicable reason, I couldn't stop and I said, gosh,
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  Speaker 3: did you see Kelly Clarkson last night? She was on
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  Speaker 3: some award show? And I said, did you see her?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: And I said, she really got big? And that was
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  Speaker 3: all I mean. I didn't make fun of her. I
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  Speaker 3: just pointed out because she was really really big. And
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  Speaker 3: Chris made the unfortunate remark, yeah, maybe she should have
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  Speaker 3: ordered the thin crust instead of the thick crust. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you got in trouble? Oh did I get in trouble?
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  Speaker 3: A fellow named Joe Kancha, who is a wanna bee
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  Speaker 3: who loves to be on TV and he's a mister
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  Speaker 3: contributor and Sean Hannity always says, I should have my
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  Speaker 3: own show. He was writing a column at the time,
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  Speaker 3: but media he was listening and he proceeded to blast
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  Speaker 3: Mike Gallagher and Chris Wallace for fat shaming Kelly Clarkson,
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  Speaker 3: and it took off it wound up in People magazine,
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  Speaker 3: It wound up on TMZ angle to this, Well, what no,
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  Speaker 3: that was a different controversy when she shouldn't have done it.
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  Speaker 3: That was maternity. The let's let's can we do one
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  Speaker 3: trauma at a time for me, because I got a hey, Tracy,
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  Speaker 3: can you get my therapist on the phone please.
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  Speaker 1: The women Mike has savaged in his free form commentation.
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  Speaker 3: But it it slayed me because and then it hurt
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  Speaker 3: because I knew with all the coverage that it got.
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  Speaker 3: It got back to her and the thought normally, when
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  Speaker 3: we pop off and we talk about a Kelly Clarkson
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  Speaker 3: and we talk about a Katanji Brown Jackson or bad Bunny,
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  Speaker 3: which we're going to talk about in just a moment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't wait to talk to you about this.
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  Speaker 3: Normally doesn't get back to those people. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we got our audience, we're just talk shows and we're good. Well,
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  Speaker 3: this got, I guaranteed got back to her. And I
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  Speaker 3: was sick to my stomach and I and there was
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  Speaker 3: a whole thing. It's kind of a fascinating story about
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  Speaker 3: the art of an apology because I called and at
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  Speaker 3: the time, interestingly enough. Chris and I both shared the
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  Speaker 3: same agent, we both had the same manager, and I
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  Speaker 3: called the agent. I said, I gotta apologize. I said,
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  Speaker 3: this is insane. It's everywhere. Of course, not to mention,
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  Speaker 3: I was getting a thousand emails a middle you know,
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  Speaker 3: Kelly Clarkson fans who were ready to and and literally listen.
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  Speaker 3: I will tell you that the most I said was wow,
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  Speaker 3: did you see or she really got big? That's all
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  Speaker 3: I said. And that was in Joe Conscia's mind.
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  Speaker 2: Christ did the thin crust line that seems.
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  Speaker 3: Like right right anyway right, But it was two boomers
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  Speaker 3: laughing and blah blah. It was awful. It was not
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  Speaker 3: a good look. So and and Chris, for what it's worth,
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  Speaker 3: did not want to apologize. He said, look, we apologize.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's going to be open season. I said, Chris,
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  Speaker 3: I know, well I did.
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  Speaker 1: There will be things where you or I or Chris
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  Speaker 1: will say something about somebody and it might be edgy,
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  Speaker 1: and it might be observational, and it might be whatever
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  Speaker 1: that that don't necessarily merit an apology. Sometimes they absolutely do.
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  Speaker 1: This absolutely did, and it's a measure of the kind
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  Speaker 1: of person you are that you did it.
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  Speaker 3: Well. I wrote an apology that said, look as a
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  Speaker 3: tubby guy, the last person in the universe who should
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  Speaker 3: say anything about anybody else's physical appearances me, I am
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  Speaker 3: profoundly sorry, and I didn't do one of those equivocal
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  Speaker 3: unequivocal well anyway, and by the way, as soon as
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  Speaker 3: I did that, all the criticism stopped. It was like
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  Speaker 3: a biggot one well that it was turned on. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't know what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I thought maybe, and I wanted the apology. It was
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  Speaker 3: really just for her. I wanted her to know how
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  Speaker 3: sorry I was. That that would get That's good.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, you made the initial comment publicly, it's good for
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  Speaker 1: the apology to be known publicly.
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  Speaker 3: Well anyway, Chris finally after two or three days, he
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  Speaker 3: was not happy with me apologizing, and then finally he
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  Speaker 3: was kind of prodded hinto apologizing two or three days later,
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  Speaker 3: and that ladies and gentlemen marked the end of the
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  Speaker 3: Chris Wallace experience on My show, because weeks later they
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  Speaker 3: pulled the plug and they said that's no more Ris
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  Speaker 3: Wallace on the Mikeallagher Show.
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  Speaker 1: And so anyhow, it opened sixty seconds of an interesting thing.
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  Speaker 2: What do you get to say? I mean that, let's
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  Speaker 2: stipulate not that.
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  Speaker 1: But there's another there's a similar issue, the women of
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  Speaker 1: various ages who are getting work done and it's not good.
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  Speaker 1: It's because I care about people, you know, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: ninety year old Chaer who has drunk off her butt
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  Speaker 1: and forgot to do the winners at her category, just
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  Speaker 1: leave yourself alone. I mean, that's good work. She's got
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  Speaker 1: the money. Is it Melanie Griffith who just got horrible
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  Speaker 1: duckmouth and it was just just looked like she'd been
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  Speaker 1: in a helustrial accident. Helen, Oh, my Lord, of course.
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  Speaker 1: So the epigram means there were a couple of actual
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  Speaker 1: watchable moments and when incredibly talented Post Malone and Slash
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  Speaker 1: and Duff mccagan and Chad Smith do the Assie tribute
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  Speaker 1: by doing Black Sabbaths Warpigs and they show in the
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  Speaker 1: audience Sharon and Jack and Kelly and their hearts are
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  Speaker 1: so full because that's their husband and Dad was deeply moving.
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  Speaker 1: And this has been a little bit of a narrative.
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  Speaker 1: What in the world is going on with with Kelly Osbourne?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's what the only two reasons. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: I want her to be healthy and good. Have you
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  Speaker 1: seen Ryan Seacrest? He looks like a skeleton all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden. Ye, I want people to be healthy. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going, eh gross like I'm twelve years old. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: what is going on? And overall, esthetically, I am concerned.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a mental illness maybe in
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood or the highly visibil visible arts that people just
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  Speaker 1: don't want age. Look a look at he You think
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  Speaker 1: Helen Myren's had any work done. Maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but that is a beautiful look an eighty something woman.
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  Speaker 1: Leave yourself alone, Leave yourself alone.
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  Speaker 2: And so I don't know. I guess anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So well, according to Joe Kanca, observing that a young
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  Speaker 3: woman who put on a ton of weight and all,
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  Speaker 3: and that was really I mean, I'm not looking, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not backing off the apology. I'm just sorry all that.
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  Speaker 3: But apparently you're not even supposed to observe that you
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  Speaker 3: just said, according to Joe Kanca, should be worthy of
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  Speaker 3: getting crucified in a column at media height because you're
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  Speaker 3: not allowed to, I guess remark upon somebody's a woman's appearance.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Joe would have minded if it was
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  Speaker 3: a young guy. I mean, and again it was it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't just a little bit of weight. I mean, she
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  Speaker 3: was really big and and that's the fact that I
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  Speaker 3: observed that at all, according to Joe. And I've never
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  Speaker 3: you know, I ran into him years later on the
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  Speaker 3: streets in New York City, and I've never I'll never
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  Speaker 3: forget it, and I've never forgiven him. I really, I
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  Speaker 3: really despise the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I really do. Broadway.
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  Speaker 3: Every time I see him, I just I cringe because
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  Speaker 3: I think of and not because of what he did
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  Speaker 3: to me, but because of what he did to her,
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  Speaker 3: because his column that went viral, which he wanted, got
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  Speaker 3: back to her and it hurt her. And I can't
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  Speaker 3: stand the guy. So every time I see his sneering
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  Speaker 3: face on Fox News, but oh look at me, I'm
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  Speaker 3: on the big weekend show, look out special, I am,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm with nine other people and look at me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a TV can't stand that guy. But I saw
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  Speaker 3: him one day and I said, I told him, Hey, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: how you been. He's all hell, he was all nice
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  Speaker 3: to me and everything I said, Joe, do you remember
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  Speaker 3: what you did to me? You remember the column he wrote?
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  Speaker 3: He acted so stunned that I was even the little,
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  Speaker 3: the slightest bit perturbed about it. It was like he
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  Speaker 3: didn't even do it. I thought. So sometimes when we
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  Speaker 3: do things, we don't really realize the impact we're having
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  Speaker 3: on other people. You know. Anyway, forget about him. Not
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  Speaker 3: enough of that. But that's thank you for for reigniting
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  Speaker 3: my nightmares about Kelly Clarkson.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of those em and ms man we
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  Speaker 2: got two minutes go what else you got?
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, I think i've I've identified the two people
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  Speaker 3: in the cosmos who believe that Bad Bunny was picked
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  Speaker 3: to be a unifier, Roger Goodell and Mark Davis. Mark
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  Speaker 3: Davis and Roger Goodell. Dude, would I say that? Do
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  Speaker 3: you think he was picked to be a unifier?
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  Speaker 2: Heck?
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  Speaker 3: No, you think he's going to be unifying?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think he's going because unified?
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  Speaker 3: Are you kidding?
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  Speaker 2: Thing? For crowd out loud? Stop misquoting me.
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  Speaker 1: What I have said is I think once the Bad
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  Speaker 1: Bunny show is over, I think people are expecting him
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  Speaker 1: to come out in a rainbow flag prom dress. And
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  Speaker 1: give a double middle finger to Trump and say Ice
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  Speaker 1: out on the Super Bowl stage. Watch him way then
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  Speaker 1: watch him, No, watch him.
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  Speaker 2: You think I mean well discussion.
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  Speaker 3: When I heard Roger Goodell say this yesterday, I about
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  Speaker 3: wrecked the car. Oh it was bad Bunny was picked
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  Speaker 3: to be a unified unifier. Bad Bunny is a middle
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  Speaker 3: finger to America. Bad Bunny is a guy from Puerto Rico,
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  Speaker 3: who loads Trump, who hates conservatives, who's all about the
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  Speaker 3: anti Ice crap, and and the last thing he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be is unified. He'll pull a stunt, he'll do something,
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  Speaker 3: he'll wear a pin, he'll put on a hat, and
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  Speaker 3: he'll he'll he'll make some speech. It's just that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just seeing if you will mostly be on good behavior, because.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. Time will tell. But I do like
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  Speaker 3: what you said, and I'm glad you too caught Chris Degaal.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so impressed with Chris's take, and I'm surrounded by
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  Speaker 3: smart people like you, like Chris, who have such wonderful
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  Speaker 3: takes on things. Chris said, all the same people who
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  Speaker 3: are vilifying law enforcement, and that's all this is those
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  Speaker 3: some people are gonna say ooh, I hope law enforcement
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  Speaker 3: can find Nancy Guthrie. I hope law enforcement can really,
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  Speaker 3: you know, figure out what happened to this poor woman
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  Speaker 3: and give Savannah peace.
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  Speaker 2: These caps because do we need your skills?
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  Speaker 3: We need you yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're the same
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  Speaker 3: ones that are gonna run to the police when they
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  Speaker 3: need help. Don't forget these attacks on ICE are attacks
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  Speaker 3: on cops. Don't forget. Never forget Tim Waltz's lie aside.
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  Speaker 3: Ice is law enforcement, Border patrol is law enforcement. These
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  Speaker 3: are law enforcement officers, and these attacks are our scurrilous, viole,
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  Speaker 3: putrid attacks on the men and women who try to
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  Speaker 3: keep us safe who cont And that's what Chris Stagall
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  Speaker 3: was fired up about. And I'm glad you picked up
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  Speaker 3: on as well, because you guys are right.
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  Speaker 1: That's fa I can take fifteen seconds on something we
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  Speaker 1: might spend the entire segment on tomorrow or someday. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't I think this is going to backfire. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're crusting too early, peaking too early, if you like,
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  Speaker 1: If the midterms were today, all this anti ICE stuff,
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  Speaker 1: that passion might hurt us.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know what's gonna happen in November. I
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  Speaker 2: hope it's right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna run its course, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to start to backfire.
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  Speaker 3: The argument is, we're.
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  Speaker 1: May June, people are gonna go dude on people that
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  Speaker 1: are trying to make our streets safe.
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  Speaker 3: The argument, well, according to polling, and there's a brand
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  Speaker 3: new poll just out Democrats in for a root Awakening,
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  Speaker 3: a pull from the firm, signals shown that Trump's deportation
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  Speaker 3: efforts continue to grow more popular with the American people,
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  Speaker 3: not less. So we'll see. I mean, I hope we're
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  Speaker 3: not losing the narrative. But don't don't let anybody lie
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  Speaker 3: to you and tell you that this is an attack
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  Speaker 3: on law enforcement. That's because it is all right, bad buddy.
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  Speaker 3: I know you, Thank you so much. All that's Mike