Latest / Between Two Generations: A Father-Son Sportscast / Pt 2: BYU vs Utah Holy War: McAfee's GameDay Showdown & a Heartwarming Comeback
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- 0:02SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Between Two Generations, a father's son sports podcast, because raising a son is tough.
- 0:07SPEAKER_00: But debating sports with me, now that's even tougher.
- 0:23SPEAKER_01: BYU, Utah.
- 0:25SPEAKER_01: How about those down bites, man?
- 0:27SPEAKER_01: The hand clap to Bear.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Bear on quarterback draw.
- 0:30SPEAKER_02: Bear keeps running! Bear keeps running! Bear's got the first down! Bear keeps running! Bear inside the five! Oh Bear! Into the end zone! It's a touchdown! He kept moving! He never stopped! Until he got to the goal line! And then some it's a touchdown!
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, that decided was special.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: That was genuinely awesome.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: Even though Texas lost that day against freaking Florida, that was still so peak.
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: It was so good.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: That game is probably my favorite game I've ever watched in my life, for a sure.
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: That was.
- 1:09SPEAKER_01: That was that was pretty incredible.
- 1:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: That was the the the video footage that we have of you and grandma and mom and everybody.
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: And Eden was even getting all pumped for that.
- 1:17SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 1:17SPEAKER_01: So good.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was so awesome.
- 1:20SPEAKER_01: That was so good.
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: So these uh the ESPN's college game day, it's their big primetime program, right?
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: So uh they came to Utah two weeks in a row, which I thought this was great.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: So the first week was in Provo, uh for BYU Nota Dame.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: I think well, and I was actually thinking about this.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: Um I think that the the college the college game day crew in ESPN has like listed to all the hate that they've been getting.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: And they 100% should have gone to the BYU Notre Dame game.
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: For the past two weeks for the band to Utah, and then last week they went to the freaking Indiana, like Minnesota game.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: I was like, and then no, okay, here's here's my take.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: This this is not the fun like little episode or anybody, this is actually analysis, but my take is that if they because everybody complains that SEC games are like it's always SEC that everybody goes to Alabama, Georgia, Texas every single week.
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: But every single time that they go over there, it's always a good game.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: Like think about it, Texas, Ohio State, that was a per that was a peak.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: Ole Miss uh LSU, that was a peak.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: And then and then they only and then I think I just think college you need to just just not care about what all the freaking media says because everybody just in the media is just stupid.
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: Like I'm sorry about y'all just stupid.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of idiots.
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: It's like because if it's I mean the SEC like guys, let's be honest, they're always they always have the top teams in the country, always.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: And I know that you know they they Big Ten has Ohio State, Indiana, but the SEC always has LSU, Ohio, I mean not Ohio, Alabama, Georgia, now Texas, now I mean there's always like 10 teams in the ranked in the SEC.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: So when so when you're going to games like Indiana, Minnesota, when there's a Georgia-Florida game the same weekend, just go to Georgia.
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't care about no Indiana-Minnesota game, like just go to Georgia.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: Then the week before against Utah, I mean, right, that was the lamest college game that I've ever seen in my life.
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: I I kind of watched a little bit.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: I was like, I was like, this is stupid.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: Like I was like, Utah fans are just lame.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like everything about y'all is just lame.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: And I was just I was just thinking to myself, like, if there's a good like SEC game, just go to it.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: Like they're always so fun, and they're always a top 10 game somewhere.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm actually no, the Utah, yeah, the Utah Cincinnati game on the Utah Houston game, Texas and Omus were playing that same weekend.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: And Texas Omis was fought way better than the Utah um Houston game.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: Houston games.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: So I just so I just think that they just need to stop listening to everybody because truly the SEC has the best games.
- 3:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: And it you can you can argue that the rankings before contribute to that, but still they have the best games.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: So that's just my take on it.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: But anyway, you can go back to what we were talking about.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I I I 100% agree with you on that, especially as a fan.
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: But if you do look at it from the standpoint of just getting getting more people known out there, yeah.
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: Like Pat McAfee now loves Provo and BYU, hates University of Utah in Salt Lake City.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, but BYU Northeam was the best game out there.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: That weekend it was legitimately the best game.
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: Utah and Houston wasn't.
- 4:37SPEAKER_01: But I I'm gonna be real honest though, as a BYU fan, I am so stoked that College Game Day came out to Salt Lake City because he was able to see the complete difference between the BYU and the University of Utah.
- 4:49SPEAKER_01: And he said, I don't ever want to come back to University of Utah.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: Give me back to BYU.
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: Give me back to Big Up.
- 4:54SPEAKER_01: Give me back to the Mormons in their ice cream.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he calls himself Brother Pat now.
- 5:00SPEAKER_01: Brother Pat.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: Which is so epic.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: Um, so so that's really good.
- 5:05SPEAKER_01: Um all right, so let's break, let's break down a little bit the uh the experience of both game days, right, and give some official stats.
- 5:12SPEAKER_01: So here's round one.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: Let's just compare to the welcome.
- 5:14SPEAKER_01: So provo on October 17th, BYU's first game day since 2009.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: The night BYU hosted number two Notre Dame, and McAfee opened by thanking the brothers and sisters for coming out, and he held up a Y.
- 5:28SPEAKER_01: Okay, so we've actually got that soundbite.
- 5:31SPEAKER_01: If y'all haven't seen this, it is hilarious.
- 5:32SPEAKER_01: Give the soundbite.
- 5:33SPEAKER_01: So funny.
- 5:34SPEAKER_03: Three million dollar kick.
- 5:36SPEAKER_03: Obviously, Cosmo did a backflip with the flaming weights.
- 5:39SPEAKER_03: I mean, he came out of the sky.
- 5:40SPEAKER_03: It's been magical.
- 5:42SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna let you know.
- 5:43SPEAKER_03: Maybe it was the Book of Mormon that I read earlier, maybe it's the air, maybe it's the time.
- 5:48SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna let you know, brother Pat is riding with the Mormons.
- 5:52SPEAKER_03: Give me B.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: He even read from the Book of Mormon.
- 6:02SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 6:03SPEAKER_03: As Nephi said, 324, wherefore, now after I've spoken these words, yeah, if ye cannot understand them, it'll be because ye ask not, neither do ye knock.
- 6:14SPEAKER_03: Wherefore ye are not brought into the light, must perish in the dark.
- 6:20SPEAKER_03: In the dark.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: That pick against with him and Steve Young was so funny.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was yeah.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: It was so peak.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: Now let's compare that to Salt Lake City on October 24th, the very next weekend, right?
- 6:35SPEAKER_01: So right before the show, University of Utah's official account posted a video of students impersonating McAfee, making fun of him, calling him corny and creepy and all that.
- 6:44SPEAKER_01: Um, he saw it right before going on the air.
- 6:46SPEAKER_01: Wait, really?
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right before going on the air.
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: And so now it gets us to round two.
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: So the moment everybody was talking about, okay, let's let's let's show Provo versus Salt Lake.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: So McAfee pulls out the Book of Mormon on live TV and read first Nephi 1736.
- 7:02SPEAKER_01: And then he joked that it explained BYU's offense.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: He said later it wasn't even planned, just came to him because he was in the flow.
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: Some might say he was filling the Holy Spirit, and it was just great.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: He had an awesome experience.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: Now let's go to Salt Lake.
- 7:18SPEAKER_01: McAfee said walking in front of that crowd after seeing the post made him feel very, very uncomfortable.
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: Wow, really?
- 7:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:26SPEAKER_03: Did not enjoy University of Utah.
- 7:28SPEAKER_03: Did not enjoy it.
- 7:30SPEAKER_03: I think everybody.
- 7:30SPEAKER_03: You know why I didn't like it mostly?
- 7:33SPEAKER_03: Right before I go out there, okay?
- 7:36SPEAKER_03: Right before I go out there, I see the University of Utah's Instagram page.
- 7:41SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 7:41SPEAKER_03: The you the the universities, this is this is our univ this is how we are.
- 7:47SPEAKER_03: They put out eight, can you do an impression of Pat McPhee?
- 7:50SPEAKER_03: And one kid goes, ah, he's corny.
- 7:52SPEAKER_03: Another kid calls me creepy.
- 7:54SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 7:54SPEAKER_03: If these kids would have done this on their own blogs, all good.
- 7:57SPEAKER_03: I mean, everybody's taking shots at me anyways for everything.
- 8:00SPEAKER_03: I get it.
- 8:00SPEAKER_03: If the the two ladies that were hosting that put that out on their own blog, I'd be okay with it.
- 8:04SPEAKER_03: Hey, you you're allowed to do what you're doing.
- 8:06SPEAKER_03: The university puts that out.
- 8:08SPEAKER_03: Like as I'm about to go out and do an infomercial for the place, and then I'm walking in front of thousands of these people.
- 8:14SPEAKER_03: This is how the university feels about it.
- 8:16SPEAKER_03: It's an uncomfortable feeling.
- 8:17SPEAKER_03: I'm like, this is, you know, I'm getting I'm getting a lot of shrapnel from a lot of places.
- 8:20SPEAKER_03: The university is putting this out.
- 8:23SPEAKER_03: That is something I just had never experienced really in my entire life.
- 8:27SPEAKER_03: So it kind of set me off a little bit.
- 8:29SPEAKER_03: It made me feel a little bit weird, I would say.
- 8:31SPEAKER_03: Made me feel a little bit weird.
- 8:33SPEAKER_01: Now let's go to the kick.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: You know how they do the kick?
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 8:36SPEAKER_01: All right, the kick is kind of what put the nail in the coffin.
- 8:38SPEAKER_01: So in Provo, McAfee's kick contest.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: Okay, a student named Carter Smith was wearing the full Spider-Man suit, steps up for a 33-yard field goal, misses White Wright, but then Jazz owner Ryan Smith, a billionaire, adds a million dollars.
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: His business partner, Ryan Sweeney, a Notre Dame guy, adds another million.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: McAfee asks what the Book of Mormon says about second chances.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: Did you see that?
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: And BYU legend Austin Collie says a lot.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: So Spider-Man Carter Smith gets a second kick, knuckles it through, kicks it right through the uprights, wins$3 million, and a million of it, a million of it going to charity.
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: The kid was grateful.
- 9:17SPEAKER_01: Pat McAfee was loving it.
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: They had a great moment, positive vibes everywhere.
- 9:21SPEAKER_01: Now fast forward a week later to Salt Lake.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: Utah student named Um, I hate bringing her name up, but she's she was on national broadcast.
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: But a Utah student named Morgan Boring, she did not look very good, uh, gets her shot.
- 9:34SPEAKER_01: She didn't make herself look good.
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: I mean, so before the kick, she asks on air why her kick is only worth a million when the BYU guy got three.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: Because we're goaded.
- 9:44SPEAKER_01: We're goaded, but like that's not how you want to present yourself.
- 9:46SPEAKER_01: Like you should be grateful for a million, right?
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: But McAfee fires back that maybe maybe hers should be worth 20 bucks.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: He's like, are you?
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: Well, if you're gonna be ungrateful, maybe yours should only be worth 20 bucks.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: He's like, there was a couple billionaires in the stands that threw more money in.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: She couldn't even like make it like and then she totally missed it.
- 10:02SPEAKER_00: Well, no, she didn't even miss it.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: She like couldn't even get the ball a three key in the air.
- 10:09SPEAKER_03: I don't know about that football.
- 10:11SPEAKER_03: Okay, so let's give it a go here.
- 10:12SPEAKER_03: We'll give it a shot.
- 10:13SPEAKER_03: I appreciate you stepping up to the plate here.
- 10:15SPEAKER_03: This will be for one million dollars.
- 10:22SPEAKER_04: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
- 10:25SPEAKER_04: The BYU guy got three million.
- 10:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's two billionaires on the side.
- 10:30SPEAKER_03: No, they added two.
- 10:31SPEAKER_03: Actually, you know what?
- 10:32SPEAKER_03: How about uh for 20 bucks this is for one million dollars here, Morgan.
- 10:38SPEAKER_03: Good luck.
- 10:39SPEAKER_03: If you find another billionaire out here that is uh able to get we will we will certainly put their money up.
- 10:44SPEAKER_03: Gosh dang it! All you gotta do is 33 yards of magic here, Morgan.
- 10:48SPEAKER_03: Good luck.
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: She's kicking out of freaking Uggs, I think.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: I don't even it was so bad.
- 10:52SPEAKER_01: It was so good.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: I uh yeah, so okay, so round four, the picks and the scoreboard, right?
- 10:58SPEAKER_01: So in Provo, Steve Young was the guest picker.
- 11:00SPEAKER_01: McAfee picked BYU and said, Brother Pat was riding with the Mormons.
- 11:04SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 11:05SPEAKER_01: BYU won that game.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: Salt Lake.
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: To his credit, McAfee did say they got a good football team, though.
- 11:22SPEAKER_03: Now, I will say the person who won the kicking raffle said one million wasn't enough, and then they would go on to miss.
- 11:29SPEAKER_03: The university's uh Instagram account talking a little trash about me last night, which I certainly love.
- 11:36SPEAKER_03: It's hard to pick against this mighty Utah student section.
- 11:42SPEAKER_03: But I'm gonna do it ten times out of ten.
- 11:44SPEAKER_03: Give me Houston coming out of here with a big time dug.
- 11:48SPEAKER_03: Thank you guys.
- 11:49SPEAKER_03: I'll never see you again, hopefully.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: Um Utah did end up going to win.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: Now, the final thing on the kickers, the ratings for both of the shows.
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: This was incredible.
- 12:00SPEAKER_01: The Provo show drew three million viewers, 3.9 million to be exact in the last hour.
- 12:07SPEAKER_01: Okay, listen in on this.
- 12:09SPEAKER_01: It was the most watched game day of the whole season, and the third most watched regular season episode ever.
- 12:15SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: Ever.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: That's the highest this year, third most ever in the history of the show.
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: That's so fired.
- 12:23SPEAKER_01: And Utah, okay, to their credit, the university apologized.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: They said, quote, we missed the mark, and they reached out to McAfee directly.
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: Their ratings were the worst so far of uh all the college game days.
- 12:36SPEAKER_01: Of this, of this college game day.
- 12:38SPEAKER_01: From the stoke from the stat I saw, it was the it was the lowest rated one.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 12:42SPEAKER_01: So who won college game day?
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: Us.
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: I think it's clear Provo did, and me as a BYU fan am reveling in the fact that we look great to Pat McAfee, and brother Pat is riding with the Mormons.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: Riding with the Mormons.
- 12:56SPEAKER_01: That's all right, buddy.
- 13:03SPEAKER_01: Now let's see.
- 13:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Briggs.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: I need to put a little tissue box over there in front of you.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: Because next segment is your favorite.
- 13:12SPEAKER_01: Next segment, buddy.
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: This is Between Two Hearts, mom's favorite part.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: Grab your tissues.
- 13:17SPEAKER_01: Fellas, make sure your wives and the special ones close to you are listening in because this is gonna make them a fan and make sure they don't miss a single game.
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: This is about Sione Moa.
- 13:32SPEAKER_01: He's the running back, the one the back one of the backup running backs for BYU.
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 13:37SPEAKER_01: When you watched BYU beat Arizona State last Saturday, you probably saw a running back named Sione Moa punch in a one-yard touchdown late in the game.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: 27-17 ball game.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: It looked like a normal play, but it was anything but that.
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: Sione grew up in Victorville, California and finished high school at Timfiew here in Utah.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: He served an LDS mission in San Bernardino and came home and walked on at BYU.
- 14:04SPEAKER_01: No scholarship, no promises.
- 14:06SPEAKER_01: As a freshman in 2024, he scored his first college touchdown in a win over number 13 Kansas State.
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: Then came last season.
- 14:14SPEAKER_01: In September of 2025, he took a hard hit to his thigh at East Carolina.
- 14:20SPEAKER_01: On the four-hour flight home, the pain kept getting worse and worse.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: He got home at four in the morning and he woke up his wife, Kate.
- 14:28SPEAKER_01: They'd been married just a couple of months.
- 14:30SPEAKER_01: Kate is a nurse at a surgery clinic.
- 14:33SPEAKER_01: He asked her what he should do.
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: By the next day, Sione was in the emergency room at the hospital.
- 14:39SPEAKER_01: The diagnosis was compartment syndrome.
- 14:42SPEAKER_01: Are you crying over there?
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I'm just I'm just I think I have a cold.
- 14:46SPEAKER_01: No, Briggs is he's starting to tear up.
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: I love that side of you, buddy.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: Alright.
- 14:51SPEAKER_01: So by the next day, he was in the emergency room.
- 14:55SPEAKER_01: The diagnosis was compartment syndrome.
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: The swelling in his leg was cutting off his blood flow.
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: If you don't catch it in time, people can often lose the limb.
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: They have to cut it off.
- 15:05SPEAKER_01: Wait, really?
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: Oftentimes, yep.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: Compartment syndrome is a very serious deal.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: Shoot.
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: They operated that day.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: Later, Sione said it was the absolute worst experience of my life, and that he was lucky to still have my leg.
- 15:18SPEAKER_01: He fought his way back that year for the Big 12 championship game.
- 15:22SPEAKER_01: And going into this season, he said, I almost had it taken away from me last year.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: Then, this season's opener, first quarter, he gets rolled up on a tackle, damaged his legs severely, MCL problems, PCL problems, cartilage damage, same exact leg as the compartment syndrome.
- 15:41SPEAKER_01: From his hospital bed, he wrote, My heart sunk.
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: He said those were the hardest days he'd ever had mentally.
- 15:47SPEAKER_01: But he also wrote that he was facing it with an attitude of gratitude, and that his joy comes from his wife, his family, his brothers, and his faith.
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: He had surgery, he did the rehab, and six weeks later, he was cleared to play.
- 16:02SPEAKER_01: Now remember, that was this season, the beginning of the season.
- 16:05SPEAKER_01: So last Saturday, he's back on the field with BYU fighting the hang-on, already down their first two, uh, their first two starting running backs out with injury, they relied on Sione Moa.
- 16:17SPEAKER_01: He took a handoff from the one-yard line and pushed into the end zone.
- 16:20SPEAKER_01: His second touchdown of the day.
- 16:22SPEAKER_01: So Saturday morning at Rice Eccles at the University of Utah, Sione Moa probably won't be the star.
- 16:29SPEAKER_01: But he's the guy who knows better than anybody that just getting to play is a gift.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: Now that's between two hearts.
- 16:36SPEAKER_01: Mom's favorite part.
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 16:40SPEAKER_01: Let's go to the next segment.
- 16:41SPEAKER_00: You can wipe up your tears now, buddy.
- 16:42SPEAKER_00: Oh no, I'm I'm I call sex out, please.
- 16:45SPEAKER_00: Hey, but great story, by the way.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: Good job, Ciode.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: All right, buddy.
- 16:55SPEAKER_01: All right, buddy.
- 16:56SPEAKER_01: That is the end.
- 16:57SPEAKER_01: Okay, but next episode, we are gonna be breaking down Saturday's game.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: Now, this is where it gets fun.
- 17:03SPEAKER_01: Number seven, BYU.
- 17:04SPEAKER_01: Number three, Utah.
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