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Jalen Hurts out for season, Rams struggles continue, College Football playoff absurdity | 10.19 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to The Right Time, presented by PrizePix.
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Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont E.
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Speaker 2: Jones.
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Speaker 1: I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We got
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Speaker 1: a lot of football to get to. As we are recording,
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Speaker 1: we just got the news that Jalen Hurts will be
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Speaker 1: out for the season this We knew last week that
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Speaker 1: he had what they called a superficial blood clot, which
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Speaker 1: honestly I had never heard of before, but it was
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Speaker 1: like a superficial vein thrombosis, which is not the same
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Speaker 1: as the deep vein thrombosis, which quite honestly was the
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Speaker 1: only one that I had heard of. But that's the
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Speaker 1: one where you started getting nervous and stuff. Then they
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Speaker 1: came back and said, okay, they were going to put
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Speaker 1: him on to IR. The Eagles put out a statement
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Speaker 1: and to be clear, His agent also sent the statement,
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Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that all of it is true, but
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Speaker 1: that he gets over there, he's diagnosed with the superficial
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Speaker 1: blood clot, which they saw as not really being that
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Speaker 1: big of a deal, and then they found out that
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Speaker 1: it's the deep one, and the issue is a little
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Speaker 1: less about the blood clots themselves than it is about
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Speaker 1: the fact that you have to go on blood thinners,
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Speaker 1: and that once you go on blood thinners, you can't
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Speaker 1: play because your blood is thin and people be hitting. Right.
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Speaker 1: This is what ended Chris Bosh's career is the fact
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Speaker 1: that he had to be on blood thinners and that's
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Speaker 1: just basketball. Anyway, they have now found that these blood
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Speaker 1: clots are in Hurts lungs. And honestly, this gets us
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Speaker 1: to the place where this ain't even really about analysis
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Speaker 1: as much as it is T's and P's. You know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I hope he's ultimately OK, whatever
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Speaker 1: OK happens to mean. But if he winds up having
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Speaker 1: to live a life that means being on blood thinners,
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Speaker 1: And he's just not going to be playing football anymore. Ryan,
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Speaker 1: it gets a little tricky in moments like these. Of course.
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Speaker 1: Just because, like, I guess I need to just start
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Speaker 1: talking about something else. Like, nothing I say matters.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough because it's obviously the biggest news of
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Speaker 3: the day, but also, like, we're going off, you know,
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Speaker 3: his agent statement and Adam Schefter's tweet at this point.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and, like, also... We had Eagles stuff ready to go, dog. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: nothing about the Eagles has changed. All the Eagles hot
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Speaker 1: takes are still valid. It just don't feel right to
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Speaker 1: say it right now. But, I mean, it'll be a
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Speaker 1: couple hours later by the time. No, no, no.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 1: T's and P's, man. T's and P's. that's where we
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Speaker 1: go with that one um but we had a lot
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Speaker 1: of other nfl action it was fantastic right it's always
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Speaker 1: so weird when the football when the stuff gets serious
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Speaker 1: right before we about to start doing our whimsical show yeah.
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Speaker 3: We were just starting to make uh make a wish
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Speaker 3: foundation jokes and we are we have to you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah now yeah now it's the best yeah now it's
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Speaker 1: a little too on the nose that being said cowboys
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Speaker 1: went out there and got smacked by the packers last
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Speaker 1: night um The thing with the Cowboys is, and Ryan,
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Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm tripping here, but this is
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Speaker 1: just the way I see it, that it's not really
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Speaker 1: that much news for us when they lose, except when
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Speaker 1: they lose and their offense is bad.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't really understand what the point
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Speaker 1: of any of this is with these guys if they're
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Speaker 1: not going to score any points. And the offense looked bad.
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Speaker 3: Bad. Bad against a defense who we don't think is
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Speaker 3: very good either. Right.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, to be fair to the Make-A-Wish Foundation,
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Speaker 1: they weren't just out there giving up the booty all game.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the defense played that poorly,
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Speaker 1: to be honest. If you get that kind of performance
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Speaker 1: for that defense, shout out to you, Mike Patton. Apparently,
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Speaker 1: you are worth something. And what's his name? Christian Parker,
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. You're never going to get any credit
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Speaker 1: for this, but good for you. You seem to have
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Speaker 1: listened when they brought that man in there to give
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Speaker 1: you some advice. But when that happens, the Cowboys can't
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Speaker 1: ever have a game where the offense is bad, period.
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Speaker 1: And It just generally seems it feels anecdotal. I haven't
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Speaker 1: looked up the actual data to see how much of
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Speaker 1: this is supported, but it just never feels like the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys win when they're not supposed to. Or if they
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Speaker 1: get behind, it's like, all right, Dak, what you got
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Speaker 1: for us? It just seems to always feel like a
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Speaker 1: line like this, 34 for 54 for 258. now granted
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Speaker 1: across the league right i don't know if you've noticed
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Speaker 1: this everybody seems to be putting up these like minuscule
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Speaker 1: yards per attempt at this point like in a way
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Speaker 1: that makes me wonder if this is like a schematic
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Speaker 1: league thing where everybody went to these two high safeties
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Speaker 1: the big fangio thing and now everybody has to go
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Speaker 1: short but it feels like everybody's just putting up nickel
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Speaker 1: and dime performances that i generally associate with bad quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Play yeah like just there's a lot of dink and
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Speaker 3: ducking a lot of uh Bo Nix quarterbacking.
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Speaker 1: Yes. But even, look, even Jordan Love came out here, though,
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Speaker 1: with 23 for 41. Like, and one thing we know
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Speaker 1: about that guy, he gonna throw that bitch four.
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Speaker 3: But that, there were, he's still chucking it, but there
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Speaker 3: are a lot of drops with, for this Packers receiving
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Speaker 3: core we're supposed to think is good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say this about the Packers. They
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Speaker 1: are now four and two, and I didn't come out
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Speaker 1: of this feeling any better about them than I had.
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Speaker 1: Because their problem, we can't block them. There's really no
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Speaker 1: way around that one. You can't fix that. When it's
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Speaker 1: to the point, y'all couldn't even run the ball on
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Speaker 1: the Make-A-Wish Foundation. Now, granted, Mike Pettin may be helping,
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Speaker 1: but Mike Pettin wasn't the 12th man on the field.
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Speaker 1: He still was out there with 11, and from what
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Speaker 1: I could tell, it looked like the same 11 had
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Speaker 1: always been the 11th. You know what I mean? Like,
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Speaker 1: it can't be that. But how about this for the Cowboys?
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Speaker 1: ESPN's got their, I forget what they call it, but
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Speaker 1: it's the probability matrix, you know? 63% chance that they're
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Speaker 1: going to win that division. And why not? The Eagles
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Speaker 1: will not have a quarterback this year. Now, this is
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Speaker 1: where we can talk about it. They tried it, that
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Speaker 1: Tanner McKee out there. I think Matthew Berry, fantasy guy,
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Speaker 1: he had put something up on Twitter like, I'm not
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Speaker 1: worried about the Eagles receivers. They'll be fine with Tanner McKee.
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Speaker 1: And I know, Matt, seems like a nice enough guy.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck he was talking about
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Speaker 1: with that one. Are you serious? Let me tell you something.
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Speaker 1: Trust me on this. If anybody thought that Tanner McKee
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Speaker 1: could put up numbers similar to what Jalen Hurts could
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Speaker 1: put up, you know whose name we would have heard
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Speaker 1: a lot more of the last couple years? Tanner McKee.
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Speaker 1: You think that they would keep talking all of this
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Speaker 1: shit about Jalen Hurts' black ass? If there was a
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Speaker 1: white boy behind him that could do anything similar, then
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Speaker 1: you would not have heard him a lot more. He'd
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Speaker 1: have been the most famous man in Philadelphia. He might
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Speaker 1: as well have been Rocky Balboa. Not one soul had
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Speaker 1: thought about putting Tanner McKee on the field up until
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Speaker 1: this point. You know why? Because it sounds like Matthew
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Speaker 1: Barry's smoking rocks. And he doesn't strike me as a
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Speaker 1: rock-smoking type. But damn! No, no, no, no, no. Tanner McKee, Ryan,
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Speaker 1: you're looking a little petrified right now. We don't have
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Speaker 1: Ryan's camera. Ryan's making me nervous on this one. This
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Speaker 1: is no insult to Matthew Barry, who I'm like, I'm
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Speaker 1: just saying, we know the rules here. We know how
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Speaker 1: the game goes. Somebody would have had that white man
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Speaker 1: somewhere in that moment. And they did not.
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Speaker 3: You saw Andy Dalton said, they tried to get Andy
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Speaker 3: Dalton back and he said, thanks, but no thanks. And
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Speaker 3: now he's going to the Falcons.
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Speaker 1: Yo, let me tell you something. Two things on that point.
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Speaker 1: Number one, Andy Dalton knows an unpleasant situation when he
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Speaker 1: sees one. There's going to be nothing fun about taking
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Speaker 1: that eagle job. That's some self-awareness about where he is
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Speaker 1: out here. Number two, I'm assuming Andy Dalton just don't
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Speaker 1: want to play no more. And the reason I'm making
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Speaker 1: that assumption is there aren't that many places where a
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Speaker 1: white man cannot get elevated. They got the black dude
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Speaker 1: and the Polynesian, right, who gets his hair cut by
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Speaker 1: black people, or at least it looks like he should
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Speaker 1: based on the texture. Yet in Atlanta, that does not
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Speaker 1: make you a more attractive starting option. Anywhere else in
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Speaker 1: the league, Andy Dalton might have rocketed, at the very least,
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Speaker 1: over Tua just to get ready for Michael Penix to
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Speaker 1: get hurt. Andy Dalton don't want to play.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 2: For what?
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Speaker 3: He's 45 years old.
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Speaker 1: For who? This is year 15. Andy Dalton has stuck
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Speaker 1: around for 15 years. Yeah, he don't want no parts
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Speaker 1: of that unpleasant situation. And then staying in that division...
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Speaker 1: your boys, the New Orleans Saints, they came up and
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Speaker 1: they was putting a hurt on the Giants. And then
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Speaker 1: they took Jameis out of the game and they put J.J.
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Speaker 1: McCarthy in the game. Which I thought was an interesting decision.
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Speaker 1: They did this thing where they got mad at Jameis
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Speaker 1: for being who he is. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: I guess you got to try something. McCarthy put up
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Speaker 1: some big numbers and put up some big throws, but
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Speaker 1: I don't think that was the same thing as actually
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Speaker 1: playing well. I feel like he had a couple opportunities
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Speaker 1: that he gave to the Saints where they could have
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Speaker 1: picked him off. But, I mean, he averaged something like
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Speaker 1: 20 yards of completion in that game. We had said
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Speaker 1: before how bad we had figured he was and that
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Speaker 1: he still would not get a chance to be a starter.
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Speaker 1: Given that Cam Scadaboo is not playing well, and then
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Speaker 1: given that Jackson Dart is not coming back, I feel
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Speaker 1: like J.J. McCarthy will get his opportunity to start, whether
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Speaker 1: he's better than Jameis or not. I'm just saying, North
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Speaker 1: Jersey had been real fired up about that Scataboo-Dart situation.
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Speaker 1: They really have. Scataboo out there putting the ball on
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Speaker 1: the ground all the time, getting three-something yards to carry,
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, man. And, Ryan, you live here. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you live here sitting in the same
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Speaker 1: room yeah um this is no longer we're no longer
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Speaker 1: in different locations um the local the local whites have
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Speaker 1: been really really excited about this quarterback running back situation
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Speaker 1: that they've had they've really charged up and then they
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Speaker 1: replaced it with james who also seems to have them
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Speaker 1: fairly excited right but it ain't the same right he's
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Speaker 1: It's a little different. Anyway, I get the feeling just
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Speaker 1: for morale that J.J. McCarthy may get his opportunity to
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Speaker 1: get out here and start. I will just remind you
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Speaker 1: that the team that knew J.J. McCarthy the best said, nope,
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Speaker 1: we've got Carson Wentz. What do we need J.J. McCarthy for?
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Speaker 1: Just saying. I don't think it's going to necessarily go well,
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Speaker 1: but I think he'll get his opportunity. And then the
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Speaker 1: commandos play the 49ers tonight. All of that is to
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Speaker 1: say the Dallas Cowboys have a 63% chance to win
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Speaker 1: the NFC East, and it's not kooky numbers. It's a bad, bad,
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Speaker 1: bad division. Bad division. Is anything better for business, though,
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Speaker 1: than a Cowboys team that consistently loses but is also
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Speaker 1: going to go to the playoffs and get a home game?
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Speaker 3: Never.
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Speaker 1: This is, oh my God, this is foul money. This
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Speaker 1: is absolutely foul money. Hell yeah. All right. Anyway, I
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Speaker 1: think one of the biggest winners right now in the NFL. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's going to sound. Nobody wins when Jalen Hurts has
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Speaker 1: blood clots in his lungs.
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Speaker 3: Obviously.
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Speaker 1: Nobody wins. However, some people do move down the rundowns
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Speaker 1: of television shows, and that includes the Los Angeles Rams,
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Speaker 1: who I would not call a beneficiary from this injury,
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Speaker 1: but I would say are no longer at the top
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Speaker 1: of the show.
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Speaker 4: Correct.
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Speaker 1: Because they were definitely going to be at the top
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Speaker 1: of this show. They lost to the Cardinals. The Cardinals,
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Speaker 1: you know who the only other team was the Cardinals beat, Ryan?
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Speaker 3: The Chargers.
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Speaker 1: The Chargers. The Cardinals are all, they're two and four.
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Speaker 1: Their four losses are to the Giants, Seahawks, the 49ers,
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Speaker 1: and America's team, the Detroit Lions. All good-ish teams. The
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Speaker 1: Giants aren't terrible. Even with Jameis. I think Jameis played
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Speaker 1: pretty well in that game. But the Giants, actually, no.
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Speaker 1: I was mixing that up with the Commandos game. My bad.
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Speaker 1: Wrong team wearing that color. But the Giants are like
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Speaker 1: not terrible. Losing at your crib. By the way, I
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Speaker 1: saw this because both of their wins have been at SoFi.
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Speaker 1: They have more wins in Los Angeles than the Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles teams have combined. They do. And the Rams did
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Speaker 1: not look good. And I want to point this out.
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Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm a hater, I'm
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Speaker 1: a hater. But I don't think I am. Now, a
12:55
Speaker 1: lot of you guys know that one of the things
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Speaker 1: that is a pet peeve for me is how y'all
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Speaker 1: all woke up one day and decided that Matthew Stafford
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Speaker 1: deserved to be in the Hall of Fame. And it
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Speaker 1: bothered me just because none of you said it for
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Speaker 1: the first 12 years of his career. I think it's
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Speaker 1: a fair thing for me to say that we have
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Speaker 1: adopted a certain measure of revisionist history, and that's before
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Speaker 1: we get to Orlovsky trying to say that he is
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Speaker 1: one of the five greatest quarterbacks of all time. Okay?
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Speaker 1: Or is on that list. This is all I'm saying
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Speaker 1: because I want to be fair to the Rams. This
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Speaker 1: is not the roster that people thought could go 17-0.
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Speaker 1: Guys being hurt. Now granted, I think that people were
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Speaker 1: a little too optimistic about Aaron Donald given that He
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Speaker 1: quit playing football and didn't do it for two years.
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Speaker 1: And there was probably a reason.
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Speaker 3: And he not just quit for two years, talked about
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Speaker 3: quitting for two years prior.
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 1: Correct. Right. Miles Garrett obviously has not played because he
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Speaker 1: has been hurt. We've seen Puka be hurt. We just
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Speaker 1: saw Devontae Adams get hurt in this last game. I
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Speaker 1: just want to be clear that things have not gone
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Speaker 1: the way that they thought they would in ways that
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Speaker 1: are beyond people's control with this team. Just throwing that
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Speaker 1: out there. At the same time, a big part of
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Speaker 1: why the Stafford Hall of Fame thing had always gotten
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Speaker 1: on my nerves, just the revision that we had, was
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Speaker 1: the Lions weren't always terrible when he was there. Now, understand,
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Speaker 1: we dating back to before, you know, I became their
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Speaker 1: good luck charm. You know, I'm going before that. But
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Speaker 1: like that, the Roman Caldwell was there for those four years.
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Speaker 1: And I think that a winning record those three years
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Speaker 1: and they went to the playoffs a couple of those years.
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Speaker 1: He did play with Calvin Johnson for a while. It
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Speaker 1: was there were also some bad teams. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to act like they're not. However, can you name for
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Speaker 1: me the time that Stafford elevated the level of play
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Speaker 1: of that team? Because none of us felt at any
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Speaker 1: point like we were watching a guy who was just
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Speaker 1: so excellent and consistently being sabotaged by the team that
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Speaker 1: he played for. And you know if people felt that way,
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Speaker 1: that would have come up. It didn't. That wasn't him.
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Speaker 1: You go look at the numbers he put up and
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Speaker 1: everything else. He could not elevate them, okay? That's not
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Speaker 1: to say that he was a bad quarterback. That's not
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Speaker 1: to say that he wasn't talented, okay? But he is
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Speaker 1: three-time Pro Bowl quarterback Matthew Stafford. That's who he is.
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Speaker 1: Never saw him elevate a team there. If Stafford is
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Speaker 1: the guy, even though he is– old at this point
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Speaker 1: I believe this is now year 17 for Matthew Stafford
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Speaker 1: but he just won an MVP last year the quarterback
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Speaker 1: that you've been trying to tell me that he is
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Speaker 1: and has been should be a guy that could elevate
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Speaker 1: this team and I don't think that's what's happening what
15:54
Speaker 1: seems to me to be the case is he is
15:56
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways the high end of the
15:59
Speaker 1: Sean McVay dream which is how about you just go
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Speaker 1: out there and do what I say but he can
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Speaker 1: do trick shots, right? Like he do all those Mahomes
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Speaker 1: type passes and everything else. But he is what he's
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Speaker 1: always been, which is a dude while capable of playing well,
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Speaker 1: who is not probably going to elevate your team. And
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Speaker 1: right now the Rams need somebody to elevate the team.
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Speaker 1: Hey man, it's getting dicey out here. Remember the thing
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Speaker 1: that I said about the Seahawks before that Thursday night game,
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Speaker 1: and they lost that game that in all likelihood, they
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Speaker 1: were going to come out of that three games behind
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Speaker 1: the division leader. It looks like the Rams are about
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Speaker 1: to be four games behind the division leader. They are
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Speaker 1: at two and four. The only place where a team
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Speaker 1: has a chance to be two and four and make
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Speaker 1: the playoffs to me is in the NFC East and
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Speaker 1: in the NFC South.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 1: Right. Because two and four in the NFC South puts
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Speaker 1: you in second place. Two and four in the NFC.
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Speaker 1: Two and four gets you a 63% chance of winning
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Speaker 1: the division per the ESPN numbers. Right. Two and four
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Speaker 1: in the West. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> Boy,
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Speaker 1: they got problems. The only thing that might be saving them,
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Speaker 1: and it's not even really doing that, is that Seattle
17:17
Speaker 1: has to play Kansas City next week. So they might
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Speaker 1: wind up taking another L because people are getting hip
17:22
Speaker 1: to saying Darnold, like I've been trying to tell y'all
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Speaker 1: about saying Darnold. Says weak. I never, I stood on my,
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Speaker 1: without even a Super Bowl. They won the Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: and I refused to move off my score. I stayed 10.
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Speaker 1: It's a debt. This is the thing I give my
17:38
Speaker 1: buddy Nick credit for, boy. He don't give up on
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Speaker 1: being right.
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Speaker 4: Nope.
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Speaker 1: He plays that game of chicken all the way to
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Speaker 1: the end. He ain't giving up. He has to be right.
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Speaker 1: I'll bail. I'll be like, hey, I don't know about it.
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Speaker 1: Not this time. I stayed on this. And they talk
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Speaker 1: about bringing Drew Locke back. OK, all I'm saying is
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Speaker 1: this division that we thought was maybe was probably going
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Speaker 1: to be the best division in the NFL, even though
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Speaker 1: the NFC North was right there. This division may wind
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Speaker 1: up only being one team go to the playoffs. And
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Speaker 1: that team is not going to be the Los Angeles Rams.
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Speaker 1: And that even if you didn't think they was going
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Speaker 1: to go undefeated, you ain't think.
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Speaker 3: That was going to happen.
18:18
Speaker 1: All right, we're back. Those are the NFC teams, the
18:21
Speaker 1: AFC teams. I feel like, you know, the Browns would
18:28
Speaker 1: be a feel-good story this year. If it wasn't for
18:34
Speaker 1: Nasty D. Nasty D is really messing it up. The
18:39
Speaker 1: Browns are in first place.
18:41
Speaker 3: I'm surprised they don't play those games on Paramount +.
18:43
Speaker 1: Oh, my God, yes. It's a tie for first place.
18:47
Speaker 1: But they are in first place. Now, to be fair,
18:50
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this, but over the years, they've done
18:52
Speaker 1: this to us a few times. Mike Pettin had a
18:56
Speaker 1: year where they started 7-4, and then they ended the
18:58
Speaker 1: season 7-9.
18:59
Speaker 3: Was that the Josh Gordon year?
19:01
Speaker 1: Yes, it was. Kyle Shanahan is the offensive coordinator. Yeah.
19:06
Speaker 1: They do this. This happens every now and then. But
19:09
Speaker 1: none of us thought this was going to happen. Poor
19:11
Speaker 1: Kevin Clark. I see they rolling his ass on the
19:13
Speaker 1: internet because he had the audacity to get on TV
19:15
Speaker 1: and say the Browns would go 3-14. Like, you didn't
19:18
Speaker 1: think they would go 3-14. Like, everybody didn't think they
19:21
Speaker 1: would go 3-14. Like, they might not be better off
19:24
Speaker 1: if they go 3-14 because if they keep doing this,
19:27
Speaker 1: guess who's going to be the quarterback next year? That's right.
19:30
Speaker 1: Nasty D. Cause they not going to be able to
19:33
Speaker 1: draft one. Or if they win too many games and
19:36
Speaker 1: they wait too late, you know, the quarterback that's going
19:38
Speaker 1: to be there for them to draft arch. And that's how,
19:40
Speaker 1: you know, they going to be sorry. And he going
19:42
Speaker 1: to be sorry. So you wound up going to play
19:44
Speaker 1: for them. However, shout out to you, Cleveland Browns, four,
19:50
Speaker 1: first place. Now, that is with the Steelers team that
19:53
Speaker 1: just beat Tampa Bay that I don't think any of
19:55
Speaker 1: us think is good because Aaron Rodgers is not good.
19:58
Speaker 1: And shout out to the Baltimore Ravens. They lost that
20:00
Speaker 1: game to Cleveland, but they're 4-2 and they've had Lamar
20:02
Speaker 1: Jackson out. But for right now, I guess we have
20:06
Speaker 1: to allow it to stay present. Good for you, Cleveland Browns.
20:10
Speaker 1: And it keeps happening without Nasty D actually playing well. Again,
20:14
Speaker 1: remember when he said they'd only be happy if he
20:16
Speaker 1: threw for like 800 yards? No, Nasty D. That's not
20:20
Speaker 1: the issue. But please understand this. The first time you
20:24
Speaker 1: lose a game, they are going to remember that you
20:27
Speaker 1: have not actually been good.
20:28
Speaker 3: Of course.
20:29
Speaker 1: They will not forget. But anyway, they are in first place.
20:34
Speaker 1: The big galoot had a real– he was galooting for
20:37
Speaker 1: the Raiders. That crazy flip pass.
20:41
Speaker 3: That's full galoot.
20:42
Speaker 1: Hey, man, let me tell you something that I thought halfway.
20:44
Speaker 1: It was full galoot, and I am amazed that he
20:46
Speaker 1: could backhand flip it as far as he did. But
20:49
Speaker 1: that was not the most amazing play that I've ever
20:52
Speaker 1: seen in my life.
20:53
Speaker 4: No.
20:53
Speaker 1: I left my house. They would talk about that on TV.
20:56
Speaker 1: They were so excited to see him throw that backhand.
21:00
Speaker 1: So I went to go see my man Sergio play
21:03
Speaker 1: Barclays this weekend. Very interesting to go to a concert
21:06
Speaker 1: for an artist that you love and be with 10,000
21:09
Speaker 1: people that not only would you never hang out with,
21:12
Speaker 1: I can conclude that they would not hang out with
21:14
Speaker 1: me because halfway through the concert, I noticed my whole
21:16
Speaker 1: row had moved to other seats. Don't know why. Have
21:21
Speaker 1: no idea. Worked out well for me. I just pulled
21:25
Speaker 1: out my party favor. It was like, cool, less people
21:27
Speaker 1: to complain. But anyway, I realized something while I was
21:30
Speaker 1: at that concert. Because Sturgeon got a dude. I hope
21:33
Speaker 1: he get paid extra for this. He played the keys
21:35
Speaker 1: and he played the saxophone. And white people are amazed
21:38
Speaker 1: by saxophones. Dude, I know why. But as soon as
21:41
Speaker 1: that man would play one note on a saxophone, man,
21:44
Speaker 1: you would just see the look. People just completely overwhelmed, shocked,
21:47
Speaker 1: couldn't believe what it was that they were seeing. I
21:50
Speaker 1: feel like I see people play saxophones fairly often. It's
21:52
Speaker 1: very good to see somebody play a saxophone impressively, but
21:54
Speaker 1: it puts white people in a trance. And that's what
21:56
Speaker 1: happens when Josh Allen do that Jaheim stuff. People used
22:01
Speaker 1: to say, I called Josh Allen Jaheim. That was not true.
22:03
Speaker 1: What I used to say was, if Josh Allen's name
22:05
Speaker 1: was Jaheim, they would call different plays, and he would
22:08
Speaker 1: be a more successful NFL quarterback, and then immediately they
22:11
Speaker 1: started running Jaheim plays, and after they started running their
22:14
Speaker 1: Jaheim plays, look, He became the big glue. He became
22:18
Speaker 1: what we have all seen. I felt like him being
22:20
Speaker 1: in the pocket, running around, doing athletic things, and then
22:23
Speaker 1: hitting them with a little no-look backhand or whatever. That
22:26
Speaker 1: was real Jahimi, which is to say that was Josh
22:29
Speaker 1: Allen playing the saxophone, and the whites are ecstatic.
22:33
Speaker 3: That's closer to throwing it over your shoulder in a
22:36
Speaker 3: square body than people want to admit.
22:37
Speaker 1: Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Did you hear what
22:39
Speaker 1: he said? He said he knew what he threw, and
22:40
Speaker 1: it would either be a touchdown or an interception. He
22:42
Speaker 1: just did it. You know what that sounds like to me, Ryan? Duh-pee.
22:49
Speaker 1: That's a heavy dose of WP right there. Hey, man,
22:53
Speaker 1: just do it. Who cares? Just do whatever you want, right?
22:56
Speaker 3: It usually works out.
22:57
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it this time? Yeah, yeah. What's the worst
22:59
Speaker 1: that could happen? That's that priv, man. That priv just
23:03
Speaker 1: jumped off the screen. Anyway, he was beasting, and I
23:06
Speaker 1: cannot tell if the Raiders are good. Can you? It
23:10
Speaker 1: seemed to be entertaining. People seemed to be having a
23:12
Speaker 1: good time with it. They played close enough in this
23:14
Speaker 1: game against a very good team. I think we felt
23:16
Speaker 1: that same way about the Chiefs game, though they did
23:18
Speaker 1: not play well against New England. I have no idea
23:22
Speaker 1: what's going on there. I can't tell, but I can
23:23
Speaker 1: tell this. They're not bad. And that's, that's gotta be
23:28
Speaker 1: good enough. Right? My thought, and I haven't seen any
23:31
Speaker 1: footage of it. Bill's mafia comes to, uh, Las Vegas.
23:35
Speaker 1: I have to say, sounds quite terrifying.
23:37
Speaker 4: Yes.
23:38
Speaker 1: And it also sounds like a lot of people staying
23:41
Speaker 1: at hotels that I would not stay at. Save a little,
23:45
Speaker 1: save a little dough, I guess.
23:48
Speaker 3: Um, You're saying they're crashing through tables at New York,
23:52
Speaker 3: New York.
23:52
Speaker 1: Circus, circus. That's what I'm saying. They all the place.
23:56
Speaker 1: Like the people from California, the way they talk about
23:58
Speaker 1: Vegas is different because they go up the chain in
24:01
Speaker 1: Vegas because it's just like a 30-minute flight or whatever.
24:03
Speaker 1: And so they start with circus, circus, and then they
24:05
Speaker 1: build all the way up to the different places or whatever.
24:09
Speaker 1: So they know all the spots. I feel like Buffalo
24:14
Speaker 1: probably had a lot of intro level casinoing. I could
24:19
Speaker 1: be wrong. I could be wrong. But if I was
24:23
Speaker 1: working at the Luxor, I would be terrified to hear
24:26
Speaker 1: that Bill's Mafia was pulling up.
24:28
Speaker 3: A lot of people in Treasure Island staying on 16.
24:30
Speaker 1: Wow, it's really loud at the Excalibur. Whoa, buddy. By
24:36
Speaker 1: the way, as we speak, it's 11.12 a.m. Eastern Time.
24:39
Speaker 1: Has Mike McDaniel been fired yet is the question that
24:42
Speaker 1: you'll be asking yourselves as you're listening to this show
24:45
Speaker 1: because somebody is. in los angeles for the charges has
24:48
Speaker 1: to get fired somebody and he's the guy that that's
24:53
Speaker 1: got a hardball couldn't really be enthusiastic about it i
24:56
Speaker 1: am shocked they're on six i am shocked shocked shocked
24:59
Speaker 1: but let me tell you this what could be great
25:00
Speaker 1: for them about being on six if they get high
25:03
Speaker 1: enough to get a quarterback that they honestly don't need
25:05
Speaker 1: like you don't give up on herbert yet but you
25:07
Speaker 1: could change the game i oh you ryan jumped up
25:10
Speaker 1: in his seat like i said something crazy.
25:12
Speaker 3: I mean how many games they got to lose in
25:14
Speaker 3: a row.
25:15
Speaker 1: I don't know, but is it better for you to
25:19
Speaker 1: try to take a quarterback in the first round or
25:21
Speaker 1: to turn that pick into some other stuff?
25:24
Speaker 3: I understand what might be better, but I'm just... Justin
25:29
Speaker 3: Herbert's so bad, I can't remember him being a good quarterback,
25:32
Speaker 3: and Jim Harbaugh's so bad, I don't remember him being
25:34
Speaker 3: a good coach.
25:34
Speaker 1: That's fair, and the last time we saw him being
25:36
Speaker 1: a good coach, they was cheating. yeah we can't lose
25:41
Speaker 1: sight of that fact right they was counting cards the
25:44
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25:45
Speaker 3: Were doing they were doing just fine the big 10
25:47
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25:51
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25:54
Speaker 1: when uh mark mcguire started hitting home runs again yes
25:57
Speaker 1: all right it was like wow i guess he finally
25:59
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Speaker 3: Interesting development during the Bills-Raiders game. Jim Nance appeared to
29:05
Speaker 3: try to peanut punch the ball out of J.J. Watt's
29:07
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29:12
Speaker 3: the broadcast. Looked a lot like he broke his wrist. Bo,
29:15
Speaker 3: what was your reaction to this kerfuffle in the booth?
29:18
Speaker 1: Hey, man, this is the thing about professional athletes, right?
29:21
Speaker 1: It's two things that we had happen here, right? I
29:23
Speaker 1: want to start with a statement on professional athletes, and
29:26
Speaker 1: then I want to move on to something about toxic
29:29
Speaker 1: masculinity because these things are kind of tied together, right?
29:33
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this. i mean
29:36
Speaker 1: get back to this part the rams had a fat
29:39
Speaker 1: kicker last week and they released him because he wasn't
29:44
Speaker 1: making kicks and so sometimes you break up with somebody
29:50
Speaker 1: i guess and you get that complete opposite so they
29:53
Speaker 1: had a fat kicker who wore number 92 and And
29:55
Speaker 1: they replace him with a young man who is 5'7,
29:59
Speaker 1: 156 pounds. Just to give you perspective, I weigh more
30:03
Speaker 1: than 156 pounds. Anyway, it's a kickoff. The Cardinals got
30:09
Speaker 1: a guy going up the sideline, and the kicker decided
30:13
Speaker 1: not on his watch, right? He going to show them boys.
30:15
Speaker 1: He going to show them boys that he a real
30:17
Speaker 1: football player. He going to show them he one of
30:18
Speaker 1: the guys. Man, he went and hit that dude, and
30:20
Speaker 1: he ain't play no more. It was some knee injury
30:23
Speaker 1: or whatever, but he was out here. You're not going
30:25
Speaker 1: to convince me he wasn't out here trying to prove something.
30:27
Speaker 1: He tried to prove something, and he proved something that
30:30
Speaker 1: had already been proven, which is that that guy weighed
30:32
Speaker 1: 156 pounds, okay? But that was that toxic masculinity, all right? Now,
30:38
Speaker 1: let's bring that back to J.J. Watt. So J.J. Watt
30:42
Speaker 1: was talking about all these guys, the peanut punch. And
30:46
Speaker 1: the peanut punch comes, I think, comes from underneath.
30:50
Speaker 4: Yes.
30:50
Speaker 1: Right? Well, either way it goes. I can't remember which
30:52
Speaker 1: direction the peanut punch comes from, but he was giving
30:55
Speaker 1: some explanation as to how the guys take the football
30:58
Speaker 1: and they bring it up top, right? And they hold it.
31:01
Speaker 1: like right here and that way it's real close to
31:03
Speaker 1: the body and so to demonstrate that how impossible it
31:07
Speaker 1: would be to force a fumble he tells Jim Nance
31:10
Speaker 1: all right now punch it as hard as you can
31:12
Speaker 1: it's okay let's take it this is where Zach Morris
31:16
Speaker 1: would do the timeout and everybody would freeze okay I
31:21
Speaker 1: understand that there's a point to be made here that
31:24
Speaker 1: guys are holding the ball differently and it makes it
31:26
Speaker 1: more difficult to force a fumble if you do that
31:30
Speaker 1: But what is not going to convince me of the
31:32
Speaker 1: effectiveness of that approach is showing me that not even
31:38
Speaker 1: 67-year-old Jim Nance can force a fumble under these circumstances.
31:44
Speaker 1: What the fuck does that prove? Right. And so he
31:48
Speaker 1: tells Jim Nance, hit it as hard as you can.
31:51
Speaker 1: And Jim Nance says, are you sure? And he goes, yeah,
31:54
Speaker 1: because Jim Nance is saying to himself, well, JJ wouldn't
31:57
Speaker 1: ask me to do something that I could not do.
32:02
Speaker 3: Or not that I could not do that could possibly
32:05
Speaker 3: hurt myself if it goes poorly.
32:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would I do that, right? JJ understands what's
32:09
Speaker 1: going on here. And we then were left in a
32:13
Speaker 1: situation where I think Jim Nance should have asked himself
32:15
Speaker 1: two questions. Number one, have you ever thrown a punch
32:19
Speaker 1: in a competitive fashion? And number two, have you ever, like,
32:24
Speaker 1: touched a football before in your life? Because I don't
32:27
Speaker 1: think that he thought about any of these things. And
32:29
Speaker 1: so he goes and he cocks back a little bit.
32:33
Speaker 1: And I'm going to press timeout again because I go
32:36
Speaker 1: back to J.J. Watt and this is all his fault.
32:39
Speaker 1: And this is why it's all J.J. Watt's fault.
32:41
Speaker 5: J.J.
32:42
Speaker 1: Watt did this thing that professional athletes do, which is
32:46
Speaker 1: they forget that the rest of us are not professional
32:50
Speaker 1: athletes anymore. they often forget that we are just regular
32:54
Speaker 1: people and y'all are in a different world. Right.
32:57
Speaker 2: Right.
32:57
Speaker 1: I remember when I told you about that time, that adapter,
32:59
Speaker 1: Brendan Haywood, and I was just shaking off that shoulder
33:02
Speaker 1: injury and he sent me back like two more months
33:04
Speaker 1: and all he was trying to do was give me
33:06
Speaker 1: enthusiastic dap as you do for someone you respect, but
33:10
Speaker 1: he forgot. I'm not a professional athlete. Shit was, shit
33:13
Speaker 1: was dangling. It was, it was a real tough.
33:16
Speaker 3: So I mean, not to make assumptions about Brendan Haywood,
33:18
Speaker 3: but I'm going to take a wild guess and say that, uh, J.J.
33:21
Speaker 3: Watt puts more time in the weight room.
33:24
Speaker 1: Oh, buddy, let me tell you something. Maybe he does
33:27
Speaker 1: do not underestimate the strength level. Keep in mind, those
33:30
Speaker 1: are what they call long levers. He's seven feet tall.
33:33
Speaker 1: All right? So anyway, back to J.J. Watt. Jim Dance
33:36
Speaker 1: throws that punch, and he hits that ball, and immediately,
33:40
Speaker 1: he doesn't even give it the big shake because it
33:42
Speaker 1: hurts too much. He's just, ooh. He didn't make the noise,
33:46
Speaker 1: but you could see it on his face.
33:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had the Looney Tunes.
33:51
Speaker 1: Oh, man. You saw he tried to hold it together.
33:54
Speaker 1: And the only reason he did that was toxic masculinity.
33:58
Speaker 1: He wanted to show JJ that he could hit. Nah, man.
34:01
Speaker 1: It should have been, to me, very obvious. You just
34:03
Speaker 1: need to be like, I'll take your word for it, partner.
34:07
Speaker 1: No need for me to do that.
34:08
Speaker 3: Just give it a friendly tap.
34:09
Speaker 4: Right.
34:10
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, instead, they show Jim Nance and
34:12
Speaker 1: this shit is bandaged up. Not even like a tight bandage.
34:15
Speaker 1: It was just like something to demonstrate to people. Like,
34:17
Speaker 1: I think it's a bit. And I saw somebody be like,
34:19
Speaker 1: did Jim Nance strike? He was the guy that does bits.
34:23
Speaker 1: It wasn't no bit. It was a bit broken.
34:25
Speaker 3: Certainly bits where he is the butt of the joke. Yes.
34:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. And in the right hand is good hand. Damn.
34:33
Speaker 1: And again, J.J. Watt told him it would be OK.
34:38
Speaker 1: It was not OK. We go find out how much J.J.
34:41
Speaker 1: Watt is liked by Jim Nance, because keep in mind, J.J.
34:44
Speaker 1: Watt just a substitute teacher. There's a world in which,
34:49
Speaker 1: you know what? If you CBS, Jim Nance is going
34:51
Speaker 1: to go to the general manager and be like, yo,
34:53
Speaker 1: I want him traded. And CBS is going to call
34:55
Speaker 1: ESPN and be like, hey, I hear Aikman's on the block.
34:59
Speaker 1: You know, how about you make the look? JJ still
35:02
Speaker 1: got three years left on his deal, right? How about
35:04
Speaker 1: you let us get that expiring contract? You get a
35:06
Speaker 1: younger guy, a little bit of a higher upside. What
35:09
Speaker 1: do you say? What do you say? If it doesn't
35:10
Speaker 1: work out now, you can just move him down to
35:12
Speaker 1: the bench, you know, and then, you know, while Kelsey's
35:15
Speaker 1: getting ready, you can just put him right here. How's
35:18
Speaker 1: that sound?
35:19
Speaker 3: You'd say Romo didn't prepare, but at least I never
35:22
Speaker 3: hurt myself.
35:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Look, look, look, look, look, look.
35:26
Speaker 1: This is why I need to start a media podcast.
35:29
Speaker 1: That gets you into sports right there on what it
35:31
Speaker 1: is they need to do. Like, that's it. Hey, look,
35:35
Speaker 1: you're right. At least Romo never hurt himself, and I
35:37
Speaker 1: don't know why all this made me think about, do
35:39
Speaker 1: you remember that time that Mark Sanchez was in Indianapolis
35:42
Speaker 1: and got himself stabbed? He got stabbed and arrested. I
35:51
Speaker 1: know that shouldn't be funny.
35:53
Speaker 3: It was about a year ago today.
35:55
Speaker 1: That shit was so crazy. We can't forget about that
35:59
Speaker 1: because somebody put that one on court TV. Imagine being
36:05
Speaker 1: in jail and you got jabbed up. It was your,
36:08
Speaker 1: and you deserved it. Damn. Whew.
36:12
Speaker 3: All right, it looks, switching gears, looks like the college
36:16
Speaker 3: football playoff will be expanding from 12 to 24 teams
36:19
Speaker 3: starting in the 2027 season. Looks like there will be
36:22
Speaker 3: guaranteed spots for the Power 4 champions and the highest
36:25
Speaker 3: group of six with 19 at-large selections. Bo, what was
36:29
Speaker 3: your reaction to this news?
36:30
Speaker 1: Who is this helping? What this does not feel to
36:34
Speaker 1: me is like a Pareto-optimal solution, right? And a Pareto...
36:41
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm using that right. This
36:42
Speaker 1: is what I mean. You would think that if you
36:46
Speaker 1: move off of one outcome to another outcome, then all
36:51
Speaker 1: the parties involved in moving to that new outcome will
36:54
Speaker 1: improve their situation.
36:56
Speaker 3: Right.
36:57
Speaker 1: And so you're at a parade of optimal solution when
36:59
Speaker 1: in order to move off of where you are, people
37:01
Speaker 1: have to get worse off. And maybe that's where we
37:03
Speaker 1: were before, because I don't I don't understand who exactly
37:08
Speaker 1: it is that this helps. I'll talk about it on
37:11
Speaker 1: a couple of different levels. I've seen the argument that
37:16
Speaker 1: basically the idea of expanding the playoff is a win
37:20
Speaker 1: for like general, or not general managers, but like athletic
37:23
Speaker 1: directors or people that run football programs because they'll have
37:26
Speaker 1: a shingle that they can hang them and say, hey, well,
37:28
Speaker 1: we made the playoff this year. We made the playoff
37:31
Speaker 1: X amount of years. But that one doesn't make sense
37:34
Speaker 1: to me because people are smarter than that. Or at
37:38
Speaker 1: the very least, fans are smarter than that. Like, you
37:40
Speaker 1: think Camden DeBoer is going to be able to go
37:41
Speaker 1: out there and tell people, hey, well, we finished number
37:44
Speaker 1: 24 three years in a row. You think that's going
37:46
Speaker 1: to save him? You understand what I'm saying?
37:48
Speaker 3: Like.
37:49
Speaker 1: Who is that? Just the idea of making this playoff.
37:52
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that in the end is actually
37:55
Speaker 1: going to help anybody by being able to say you
37:58
Speaker 1: had that accomplishment. It's kind of how back in the day,
38:01
Speaker 1: every year when it got close to the tournament working
38:03
Speaker 1: in the ACC, Seth Greenberg would pop up somewhere with
38:05
Speaker 1: a team that was on the bubble and his pitch
38:07
Speaker 1: at the tournament should be expanded to 96. People know better.
38:12
Speaker 1: They know that scam. They're going to see through that scam.
38:16
Speaker 1: You could talk about it as maybe allowing things to
38:18
Speaker 1: be more inclusive, and now, oh, the team's in the
38:21
Speaker 1: Big 12. They'll have a better chance of getting in
38:23
Speaker 1: or whatever. I hear you, but I still say, I
38:25
Speaker 1: think people are going to see through that part. I
38:27
Speaker 1: don't think that making this 24 doesn't make for a
38:30
Speaker 1: real enjoyable situation. The other thing I would say about
38:34
Speaker 1: making a 24 that's not going to be a win is,
38:36
Speaker 1: we already see this now with the playoff as it stands.
38:39
Speaker 1: Those aren't competitive games in that first round. Last year
38:43
Speaker 1: was better than the year before. But the year before,
38:45
Speaker 1: we just saw a slate of blowouts. And it winds
38:48
Speaker 1: up involving home teams, which, again, a big deal in
38:52
Speaker 1: college sports. So I don't feel like that first round
38:56
Speaker 1: of games that you're going to get where the number
38:58
Speaker 1: 19 plays the 24 or whatever it is. We've seen
39:01
Speaker 1: when you let the James Madisons of the world in there,
39:04
Speaker 1: they go in there and get their asses kicked. They
39:05
Speaker 1: don't have any business playing on the same level as them.
39:08
Speaker 1: So to me, I don't feel like the playoff that
39:10
Speaker 1: you're going to get is really that enjoyable. People will
39:15
Speaker 1: watch it, but that doesn't mean that it's really enjoyable, right?
39:19
Speaker 1: You put it on TV, people watch ball games. You
39:23
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? Using television ratings as the metric
39:27
Speaker 1: as to whether or not people are enjoying what's going
39:29
Speaker 1: on is a terrible terrible rule i think you may
39:32
Speaker 1: have more people watching but the overall enjoyment level i'm
39:36
Speaker 1: not sure it necessarily is any higher.
39:38
Speaker 3: It's to me it's like i just don't see a
39:41
Speaker 3: world People don't think there are 24 good college football teams.
39:45
Speaker 4: Bingo.
39:45
Speaker 1: That's not how this works, right? That's not how this goes.
39:48
Speaker 1: This is the thing that gets me, though, and where
39:50
Speaker 1: I'm somewhat fascinated by the fact that the SEC decided
39:54
Speaker 1: to do this. I would make this argument. The most
39:59
Speaker 1: anticipated college football game every year has not– it was
40:05
Speaker 1: not toward the end the BCS championship game. It was
40:09
Speaker 1: not the CFP. national championship game year in year out
40:15
Speaker 1: the game that you could count on was the sec
40:20
Speaker 1: championship it has been that way basically for at least
40:24
Speaker 1: the last 20 years and one thing the sec championship
40:28
Speaker 1: did was make a lot of money for the sec
40:33
Speaker 1: right This new playoff plan is not going to make
40:38
Speaker 1: them significantly more money than the championship game would. It's
40:44
Speaker 1: not going to do it. When you see the numbers
40:46
Speaker 1: about how however many millions of dollars it's going to
40:48
Speaker 1: bring in, something like $ 345 million over the time or whatever,
40:53
Speaker 1: for the SEC, that's not going to be a noteworthy
40:57
Speaker 1: increase over what they get from an SEC championship game
41:01
Speaker 1: that your fans like. Why would you just toss that?
41:06
Speaker 1: And this is the last thing, right? I've seen people
41:10
Speaker 1: make the argument that it would be, instead of having
41:14
Speaker 1: the Pop-Tarts Bowl, you have playoff games instead. But the
41:17
Speaker 1: Pop-Tarts Bowl is supposed to have reasonably matched opponents against
41:20
Speaker 1: each other. The playoff is not supposed to do that.
41:22
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be tiered or whatever it is. But
41:25
Speaker 1: something that I think we're underrating here is a lot
41:30
Speaker 1: more teams are now going to end their seasons with
41:33
Speaker 1: a loss. And one of the charms of this, actually,
41:38
Speaker 1: with the bowl system and what it was, is that
41:41
Speaker 1: a lot more teams would leave their seasons with cause
41:43
Speaker 1: for optimism. That's not what you get when you set
41:48
Speaker 1: up a bracket like this. Like, it's going to feel
41:51
Speaker 1: bad for a lot more people on the way out.
41:53
Speaker 1: And I'm not one of those people that's like, everything
41:55
Speaker 1: is supposed to feel good, but everything ain't supposed to
41:58
Speaker 1: feel bad. Right? It's not supposed to be a bummer
42:01
Speaker 1: for everybody on the way out the door.
42:04
Speaker 4: So.
42:05
Speaker 1: We just get back to the same question for everybody.
42:08
Speaker 1: Who asked for this shit? Who wants this? Why? Ryan,
42:11
Speaker 1: it doesn't even sound like ESPN really wanted it.
42:13
Speaker 3: Seems like they had to be talked into it kicking
42:15
Speaker 3: and screaming.
42:15
Speaker 1: And correct me if I'm wrong, they hadn't even got
42:18
Speaker 1: the playoff as far along as they said it was
42:19
Speaker 1: going to be. Are you just coming up with new?
42:22
Speaker 1: I just don't know who got bored enough and decided this.
42:25
Speaker 1: And I can't find anybody who likes it. Spencer always
42:27
Speaker 1: makes the point. It'll come around and we'll find a
42:29
Speaker 1: way to like it. And in a lot of ways,
42:32
Speaker 1: he's probably correct. That doesn't mean that this wasn't stupid.
42:37
Speaker 3: All right. An interesting sentence to say in 2026, there
42:41
Speaker 3: might be new information in the OJ Simpson case. According
42:47
Speaker 3: to the New York Times, an extremely reliable informant told
42:50
Speaker 3: authorities about a missing murder weapon. According to newly unsealed records,
42:53
Speaker 3: the informant's brother told the Times the sibling was at
42:56
Speaker 3: the crime scene. Bo, we texted a lot about the
42:58
Speaker 3: story yesterday. What were your thoughts?
43:00
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's really two things. They get me. Number one,
43:05
Speaker 1: I just don't know how even after 30 years, we
43:08
Speaker 1: keep finding more and more out about the general incompetence
43:11
Speaker 1: of the prosecution of the people who could not find
43:14
Speaker 1: a way to convict the guiltiest man on earth.
43:16
Speaker 5: Right.
43:17
Speaker 1: And what we found out on this one was this
43:19
Speaker 1: guy had gotten popped for he had been on the run.
43:24
Speaker 1: He's in a part of the story where they said
43:25
Speaker 1: that the federal marshal found him wearing a toupee somewhere.
43:28
Speaker 1: I think it was it was it was a dope charge.
43:30
Speaker 1: They got him. He was on the run for. Yes.
43:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
43:32
Speaker 1: So he's also dope charge and he's on the run
43:34
Speaker 1: and he gets in there and he decides to start snitching.
43:37
Speaker 1: And so he gets, you know, he's giving him any
43:39
Speaker 1: information that he thinks could get him something. And then
43:41
Speaker 1: he says, hey, basically, I helped O.J. Simpson dispose of
43:45
Speaker 1: his clothes and the murder weapon after the murder. And
43:49
Speaker 1: in the story, the guy's brother corroborates that he saw
43:51
Speaker 1: him that day and he said he was helping O.J.
43:53
Speaker 1: with something. He saw him with blood, all this stuff.
43:56
Speaker 1: If you get the chance, read the story. It's really interesting.
43:59
Speaker 1: But after he had given this proffer, it was after
44:04
Speaker 1: the prosecution had rested in the O.J. case. But before
44:07
Speaker 1: their closing arguments and somebody called them and said, hey,
44:10
Speaker 1: we got this guy that's up here snitching and he's
44:12
Speaker 1: got OJ information. And they were like, nah, we're good.
44:17
Speaker 1: Man say he knew what a murder weapon was. The
44:19
Speaker 1: murder weapon they never found.
44:21
Speaker 3: They was like, yeah.
44:23
Speaker 1: People just tell us crazy stuff all the time. We're good.
44:27
Speaker 1: And then when asked to give a statement, they're like, hey, well,
44:30
Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't credible. It would have gotten to us.
44:32
Speaker 1: And people are like, oh, we did. We tried to
44:34
Speaker 1: tell you guys and you just didn't want it. Talk
44:37
Speaker 1: about nobody's ever. Nobody's. I'm not saying that Fred Goldman's
44:42
Speaker 1: deserve to lose, but them people, them lawyers, they deserve
44:44
Speaker 1: to lose. Ain't nobody ever deserve to lose.
44:46
Speaker 3: They certainly didn't play to win.
44:47
Speaker 1: They did not play to win. They just, oh my God.
44:49
Speaker 1: Like you just read through that and you're just like, wow,
44:52
Speaker 1: somebody wanted to give you information and y'all didn't have
44:55
Speaker 1: one person who could just go hear them out and
44:57
Speaker 1: see if it made sense. Not one losers. That's number one.
45:01
Speaker 1: Number two is the winner of this. And it's going
45:03
Speaker 1: to sound crazy to a lot of you, but the
45:05
Speaker 1: winner is fat Joe. And so for those of you
45:07
Speaker 1: who don't like follow this online, people talk about how
45:11
Speaker 1: it be sounded like Fat Joe was lying. OK, he
45:15
Speaker 1: tells these incredibly grand stories. You guys that are fans
45:18
Speaker 1: of me, fans of HQ, you know, I will love
45:20
Speaker 1: Joey forever because Joe came on our show and finally
45:23
Speaker 1: told us that I got a story to tell by
45:26
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls. The player that he robbed was Anthony Mason.
45:31
Speaker 1: Which Fat Joe tried to blame on us when people
45:33
Speaker 1: got mad because Anthony Mason is dead. He was like,
45:35
Speaker 1: y'all got us and me in trouble. Like, oh, we
45:37
Speaker 1: got you in trouble, Joe. Word. That's what happened. I
45:39
Speaker 1: actually got to look at him in the face and say, oh,
45:41
Speaker 1: I got you in trouble.
45:42
Speaker 2: Okay.
45:43
Speaker 3: Anyway.
45:45
Speaker 1: Fat Joe told this story a year ago, and it
45:47
Speaker 1: was part of the investigation that the New York Times
45:50
Speaker 1: did after they found out about this guy. It was
45:52
Speaker 1: Fat Joe telling a story about smoking blunts with O.J.
45:55
Speaker 1: Simpson at a party that this guy threw, and how
45:59
Speaker 1: that guy's wife's name was Nicole, and he said, happy birthday, Nicole,
46:03
Speaker 1: and gave O.J. the knife to cut the cake, and
46:05
Speaker 1: then O.J. chased the dude around the house with the knife.
46:08
Speaker 1: And Fat Joe tells the story, and everybody thought Fat
46:11
Speaker 1: Joe was capping. And then Fat Joe turned out to be...
46:14
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is Fat Joe is now the storytelling god,
46:18
Speaker 1: because all you need is one of those to check out.
46:20
Speaker 1: You can tell me anything, Joe, and at the very least,
46:23
Speaker 1: I got to hear you out.
46:27
Speaker 3: All right, Bo. A lot of good voicemails. Here's our first.
46:33
Speaker 2: Hey, Bo.
46:33
Speaker 6: Jonathan calling in. I wanted to talk about the Florida
46:36
Speaker 6: State situation, and I think it's time we start calling
46:40
Speaker 6: Norville Mike Privilege, because... You mean to tell me if
46:45
Speaker 6: his name is Marcus, they don't find that money to
46:47
Speaker 6: buy him out? Appreciate everything that you do.
46:51
Speaker 1: All right, so this is the problem with what you said.
46:53
Speaker 1: The answer to that is yes, but no. Yes, because
46:58
Speaker 1: they found the money to get Willie out of there. However,
47:01
Speaker 1: problem is, since they gave Willie money, they don't have
47:05
Speaker 1: the money. Right? None of them are happy about this.
47:12
Speaker 1: I feel very confident that they would get Mike Norvell
47:14
Speaker 1: out of there if they could just get the money.
47:17
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever listened to Johnny Taylor,
47:19
Speaker 1: but they are in a cheaper-to-keep-a situation here. This is
47:23
Speaker 1: not different than a significant number of marriages where these
47:26
Speaker 1: people just can't afford to get out. They just can't.
47:29
Speaker 1: That's all it is. That's really all it comes down to,
47:33
Speaker 1: just can't afford to keep up to get. That was
47:36
Speaker 1: for all you people when I mentioned white privilege about
47:38
Speaker 1: Josh Allen who got mad. Here I am shooting down
47:41
Speaker 1: the idea. See? See? Keep it fair over here.
47:45
Speaker 3: All right, here's our next one.
47:48
Speaker 5: Bomani, Ryan, hey, huge fan of the show. This is
47:53
Speaker 5: White Damon calling from southwest Michigan. I've been told in
47:57
Speaker 5: my lifetime that white boys are not supposed to be
48:01
Speaker 5: named Damon. but that's not really the reason I called.
48:04
Speaker 5: I wanted to tell you about these two sisters that
48:06
Speaker 5: I grew up with who lived across the street, white girls.
48:12
Speaker 5: The older sister, her name was Trina, and the younger
48:16
Speaker 5: sister's name was Malika. I haven't really thought much about
48:20
Speaker 5: them until you guys started doing this segment, and now
48:24
Speaker 5: I think about them almost weekly. Thanks a lot, guys.
48:28
Speaker 1: First of all, Ryan, I did not know that we
48:30
Speaker 1: had gotten Damon, that Damon had come over here. I
48:34
Speaker 1: did not know that. And number two, I need pictures
48:36
Speaker 1: of those women. I don't know where to begin. Let
48:40
Speaker 1: me also look at a map of Michigan so I
48:42
Speaker 1: can see what towns are in the southwest portion.
48:51
Speaker 5: Huh.
48:52
Speaker 1: It ain't Detroit.
48:55
Speaker 5: Oh. Hmm.
48:58
Speaker 1: It's near South Bend, Indiana.
48:59
Speaker 3: Well, that explains a lot.
49:01
Speaker 1: I didn't know South Bend. Well, South Indiana, apparently, I
49:03
Speaker 1: am told, is a lot less like Notre Dame than
49:07
Speaker 1: you might think.
49:08
Speaker 3: Oh, interesting.
49:09
Speaker 1: I've never heard of any of these towns that keep
49:12
Speaker 1: coming up as I keep zooming in on this map
49:15
Speaker 1: of Michigan. But that's where Trina and Malika are. All right, then.
49:21
Speaker 3: All right, here's our last one.
49:24
Speaker 2: Omani, what's up, man? This is your boy Mike V
49:26
Speaker 2: from FC. And, brother, I had to give you a
49:29
Speaker 2: ring after the foolishness I saw last night on X.
49:33
Speaker 4: Now, oftentimes on your show, you like to ask a
49:35
Speaker 4: crazy question like, what.
49:36
Speaker 2: Happened at your job or something like that. Well, my
49:39
Speaker 2: question for you is what meeting would you want to
49:42
Speaker 2: be a fly on the wall for? And my answer
49:45
Speaker 2: is the LSU Athletics Department because they got to be
49:49
Speaker 2: the Legion of Doom over there, bro. First off, you
49:52
Speaker 2: got Lane Kiffin trying to get NFL players, and I
49:55
Speaker 2: know when he up there talking in presentations and stuff,
49:58
Speaker 2: I know he giving all kind of slick sayings and
50:00
Speaker 2: all kind of just foolishness, man.
50:04
Speaker 4: And then you got Kim Mulkey. She out here recruiting
50:07
Speaker 4: players from Ukraine and Russia. And the young lady from
50:10
Speaker 4: Ukraine stood on business and was like, I'm not playing
50:14
Speaker 4: with her. We legit got beef at the crib.
50:16
Speaker 2: There's no telling what that locker room would have looked
50:19
Speaker 2: like with that going on, man. And then last night,
50:22
Speaker 2: I see UCF and scrimmage LSU and boys basketball, and
50:27
Speaker 2: the ball score popped up.
50:29
Speaker 4: Bro, why they got six players?
50:31
Speaker 2: Bro we're way tripping man like they hold they whole
50:35
Speaker 2: athletic department is agents of chaos bro they are tripping
50:40
Speaker 2: hard over there man i don't they tweaking man i
50:44
Speaker 2: had to call and holler at you about that man.
50:48
Speaker 3: I can't do anything to make that better um Agents
50:52
Speaker 3: of Chaos, great name for the podcast hosted by Kim Mulkey-Wayne.
50:55
Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
50:56
Speaker 5: Yes, it is.
50:57
Speaker 1: Yes, it is. That's a rap group. That is a group.
51:00
Speaker 1: If you put them all together, they are the Agents
51:02
Speaker 1: of Chaos. I was thinking about like a very specific
51:04
Speaker 1: meeting and a very specific meeting that I wish I
51:06
Speaker 1: could have attended is the meeting with A. Polian fired
51:10
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. That's the meeting. I have heard some things
51:15
Speaker 1: about what Mike said to him when that happened. That's
51:18
Speaker 1: the meeting I would have loved to have. You firing
51:21
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan?
51:23
Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
51:27
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