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Furness Show 7-30: Mike Macdonald, Eno Sarris, Corbin Smith · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: All right, well listen, I've got I'm talking to Nick
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  Speaker 2: Vinette right here, who I haven't talked to since I
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  Speaker 2: was with Fox thirteen a couple of years ago. He's
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  Speaker 2: like nine stops in between. He's gonna go talk to
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell in a second. I've got Mike McDonald coming.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to you, And I got Mike McDonald's.
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  Speaker 2: Is that cool with you? We'll catch up another time.
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  Speaker 2: He gets it. Good to see you, brother Nick Vinette
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  Speaker 2: back in the one of our favorites in the media,
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  Speaker 2: one of the great dudes out here. But Mike McDonald's
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  Speaker 2: coming on. Hurry up, he's waiting for you, Greg. I'll
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  Speaker 2: do it two things at once. It's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a gong show out here today at training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's making his way here as we speak, so
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  Speaker 2: we're looking forward to having that conversation. I haven't talked
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  Speaker 2: to him one on one since since he was hired.
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  Speaker 2: On the day he was hired, what three years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Andrews so busy show come to final Sares Stocking Baseball
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  Speaker 2: coming up at one twenty today. But the head coach
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  Speaker 2: is well, he was making his way over here, just
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  Speaker 2: got waylaid by a couple of people. So that's coming
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  Speaker 2: up as well. We had a lot going on today, Andrews,
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  Speaker 2: a lot going on. What do you want to hear
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  Speaker 2: from the coach?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: You know how much he cares?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you have that? Do you have that idea ready?
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  Speaker 2: Of course? Okay, okay, good, we did not care. One
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  Speaker 2: of the one of the great lines of all time.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, that's really good. So really good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's making his way over here right now. Decried to
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  Speaker 2: have a chance to talk to him. I haven't done
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  Speaker 2: that since since, like I said, the day that he
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  Speaker 2: got hired a few years ago. So first day in
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  Speaker 2: pads for the Sea Hawks today as well, so a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more like football out there, you don't they're
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  Speaker 2: trying not to take guys to the ground. We had
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  Speaker 2: one small scuffle during the process as well, so uh
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  Speaker 2: it was it was good to see that. But uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, all in all, very good. As the head
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  Speaker 2: coach of the Super Bowl Super Bowl champions, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: move that huge just so he coach doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: deal with it right there, he's sitting there. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we're gonna check in with Mike here in just
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  Speaker 2: a second. I'm I can't hear it. What are you saying? Hey,
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald here? Hi, Mike, how are you good to
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  Speaker 2: see it? We'll throw the headst on you. We're live
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  Speaker 2: right now on the air, so I'll go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, no worries, We're all good. We're all good.
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  Speaker 2: Grab a seat, have a seat, so now can you
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  Speaker 2: hear me? Okay, I'm gonna do this. There we go.
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  Speaker 2: How's that sound? Sounds great? We're an engineering producer here,
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  Speaker 2: all all the ones.
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  Speaker 6: This is good and it's all it's all live, it's
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  Speaker 6: all live, it's all LiLine color.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do bigger picture stuff today, but I'll let
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  Speaker 2: the print guys deal with all the minutia. Let me
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  Speaker 2: ask you this first thing though, how was PATS first
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  Speaker 2: day of PATS. That was a great day today.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really really happy with today's practice. Guys came
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  Speaker 6: out with great inten off coming off the off day
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  Speaker 6: morning practice. Uh, it was physical. They took care of
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  Speaker 6: any other. We sharpened each other, we got after it, competed,
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  Speaker 6: talked a little smack.
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  Speaker 2: It was, it was. It was great.
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  Speaker 6: It's a really good execution going on. So I can't
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  Speaker 6: wait to watch the tape. What's the fine line between
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  Speaker 6: the physical nature? You want to see? There was one
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  Speaker 6: small scuffle, where do you Because it's changed, there'll be
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  Speaker 6: some scuffles as we go. I mean we want to
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  Speaker 6: take obviously when we talk about twelve is one like that.
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  Speaker 6: That's kind of our guiding principles. That's kind of a
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  Speaker 6: non negotiable. But you kind of know when you see
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  Speaker 6: it like when there's fair physicality and and ones where
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  Speaker 6: you're not taking care of your teammate. And so we
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  Speaker 6: obviously want to minimize the ladder, and the guys did
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  Speaker 6: a great job of that, and so I think I
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  Speaker 6: think that's when the scuffles start to happen. It's when
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  Speaker 6: they feel like there's unnecessary shots. Yeah, which at some
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  Speaker 6: point in camp that's it's inevitable to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 6: But our guys on the whole, they've been they've been
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  Speaker 6: great with it.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: What's the biggest challenge that you have?
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  Speaker 2: It's coming. I guess it is upset right down straight
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  Speaker 2: between the eyes.
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  Speaker 6: So love.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so, what's the biggest challenge? I was I
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  Speaker 4: got traded the Cowboys after they won their first Super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl and and uh, you know, Jimmy Johnson was doing
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  Speaker 4: all these things to try and say okay, let's you know, listen,
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  Speaker 4: keep the gas going. Yeah you know.
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  Speaker 2: So, so, so.
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  Speaker 4: What are the what are the strategies.
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  Speaker 6: That you think are most important to connect with your team,
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  Speaker 6: Like coming off of yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Just just having won the Super Bowl and then say okay,
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  Speaker 4: now I know you're going say let's run it forward.
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  Speaker 4: You got that, But what what what what challenges are are.
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  Speaker 2: I think we have to.
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  Speaker 6: I think the first thing we tried to do is
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  Speaker 6: kind of put everything in perspective. So what we use
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  Speaker 6: with our team was, Hey, we we love what we did.
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  Speaker 6: We're very proud of what we did. That's gonna that's gonna
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  Speaker 6: be something that we have the rest of our lives.
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  Speaker 6: You guys earned it. It's freaking awesome. There's a banner,
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  Speaker 6: there's a trope, but that's like a one that's a
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  Speaker 6: that's an end time, one time thing that you can't
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  Speaker 6: even if if you win to the super Bowl, you're
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  Speaker 6: not gonna replicate. It's a different that's a different season.
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  Speaker 6: So we're gonna recognize that. However, I think the things
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  Speaker 6: that we're take the most pride in and believe the
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  Speaker 6: most in is like our way a life. And part
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  Speaker 6: of that is by moving forward all the time and
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  Speaker 6: chasing edges and pushing each other and being the best
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  Speaker 6: version all those types of things, you know, the daily inputs,
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  Speaker 6: the grind of pat you know, yeah, all these things
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  Speaker 6: that like, we cherishes that process and so let's go
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  Speaker 6: nail our process, you know, and part of that is
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  Speaker 6: growing and pushing each other, having new people and having
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  Speaker 6: them integrated the whole process and so like, to me,
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  Speaker 6: when I'm talking about that, like that fires me up.
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  Speaker 6: I think that I think our guys are excited about that,
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  Speaker 6: and uh, and that's what we're and that's what we're attacking.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we've we've had a couple of days where
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  Speaker 6: we're probably didn't necessarily hit it in certain aspects of
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  Speaker 6: our team, and we kind of just Okay, well we
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  Speaker 6: missed it. Let's go, let's go what do we do
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  Speaker 6: we need to do now to go go nail it today?
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  Speaker 6: And then you just kind of, you know, take it
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  Speaker 6: one bit, one day at a time, try out to
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  Speaker 6: be too cliche.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, who is the head coach of the defending
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions, How does that sound? By away? Sounds good?
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  Speaker 2: You just you just downplayed with you a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But I wonder at what point and how at what
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  Speaker 2: point did you sit back and just say I can enjoy,
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  Speaker 2: I can feel satisfied, I enjoy I have that Moniker,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna get that ring. There's a great
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  Speaker 2: video of you and your wife and your son on
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  Speaker 2: the field. Afterwards, I think she said something like Hey,
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  Speaker 2: how was your day? Which is a great line by her,
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  Speaker 2: But there you go, and congratulations number two on the way,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. At what point did you just kind of
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  Speaker 2: maybe sitting at home, maybe in March, maybe in February,
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  Speaker 2: say damn, we did it. Oh, you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: You're probably not gonna believe me, but it's just I
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  Speaker 6: think it's something that it's kind of stored away that
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  Speaker 6: like that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Does that makes sense? Well, that's that's that mentality of
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  Speaker 2: the coach, right, you just said it. But yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: always looking forward, so you haven't really been able to
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  Speaker 2: sit back.
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  Speaker 6: And just but like, why would you want to, like
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  Speaker 6: have you guys ever in your life to sat back
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  Speaker 6: and be like, yes, does.
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  Speaker 4: That ever happen?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you looking at it at anything?
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  Speaker 6: You know, like I you know, like yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 6: like if you like, if your son plays little league
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  Speaker 6: and they win the championship, you're gonna enjoy the heck
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  Speaker 6: out of it, right, and then the next day you're
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  Speaker 6: gonna go to basketball practice like you know, or school
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  Speaker 6: is a week. You know, it's just you're gonna love,
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  Speaker 6: You're gonna be proud of that that happened. But like,
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  Speaker 6: you're not gonna go to the beach and just be
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  Speaker 6: like the best, you know, I'm just gonna sit here
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  Speaker 6: and do nothing. I think that's an interesting No. I
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  Speaker 6: think I think we can both relate to that as
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  Speaker 6: parents of kids.
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  Speaker 2: All both our kids played collegiate football, and I think
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  Speaker 2: you probably are more proud of what Jack's doing sometimes, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: totally totally like then with then what you do and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. I don't know why Peers is looking
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  Speaker 2: at me when he said something like, Dave Piers here,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't accomplished anything in my career. So I'm just
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  Speaker 2: in here. Michae'donald with us right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. You know, if you look at
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  Speaker 4: the history of schemes in football through like decades and decades,
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  Speaker 4: there was a time when the veer nobody can stop
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  Speaker 4: the veer or the affirmation.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: The eighty five Bears were so damn unique. And one
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  Speaker 4: thing about that everybody, every single scheme on either side
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  Speaker 4: of the ball eventually got you know, solved to some degree.
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  Speaker 4: How much of what you're doing where I mean you
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  Speaker 4: took them in and in offensive coordinator for the Patriots
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  Speaker 4: who won six Super Bowls and and you made them
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  Speaker 4: look really confused. How much of your scheming do you think, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: we've got to keep evolving because otherwise people are gonna
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  Speaker 4: figure us out.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the first thing that I've that I've learned, and
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  Speaker 6: this is coming from like football dork that made made
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  Speaker 6: my bones on a computer watching tape, Like, what's what's
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  Speaker 6: gonna give us a chance to win games?
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  Speaker 2: Is our style? How we play the game.
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  Speaker 6: When we say twelve is one, it's like, we want
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  Speaker 6: to create the feeling that you're playing more than eleven guys.
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  Speaker 2: So that that's that's.
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  Speaker 6: The chemistry, that's the connection, that's the toughness, that's the
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  Speaker 6: that's the shape that you're in. You know, that's the
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  Speaker 6: clarity what you have to play with. So that's kind
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  Speaker 6: of the non negotiable. But to your point with the scheme,
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  Speaker 6: you have to evolve. You have to evolve and the
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  Speaker 6: things you know you're gonna evolve from year to year.
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  Speaker 6: In the off season, when you have those opportunities to
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  Speaker 6: kind of study and see where the game's going, where
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  Speaker 6: you need to go, maybe maybe include some of the
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  Speaker 6: problems they're gonna be able to solve that's coming forward, Like.
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  Speaker 2: So that that's part of it.
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  Speaker 6: During the season, Like the seasons evolve, you know, and
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  Speaker 6: I think we've gotten into an interesting spot with our division.
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  Speaker 6: It's like we all kind of know each other so
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  Speaker 6: well that the game plans evolve within the game, you know, right,
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  Speaker 6: Like you know that they they'll do things that you write,
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  Speaker 6: oh shoot, they're doing that because they realize that we
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  Speaker 6: do this, okay, so now we have to So there's
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  Speaker 6: like these they do these little marginal like incremental evolutions
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  Speaker 6: that happen in like shorter timeframes too. So but it's
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  Speaker 6: kind of like kind of the question like do you
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  Speaker 6: sit back and relax, Like no, just we just want
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  Speaker 6: to I love, like, what's the next what do we do?
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  Speaker 6: What do we do next? Teams are going to find
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  Speaker 6: something to do against us, and or we might be
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  Speaker 6: missing a piece or two pieces or something. You know,
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  Speaker 6: the roster's gonna change. And so I think that's just
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  Speaker 6: how you have to think about it every day. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you just have to try to keep finding new solutions
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  Speaker 6: and ways to attack and figure out what teams are gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Try to do it against you. The process then sounds
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  Speaker 2: like it you enjoy the process. It's not like we
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  Speaker 2: have like a checklist on the wall. So all right,
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  Speaker 2: this is the process. What do we you know? But
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  Speaker 2: it's just it's a mentality.
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  Speaker 6: I think about how we do business and how we
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  Speaker 6: go about, you know, our just kind of way of
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  Speaker 6: life every day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was thinking about doing this today, the
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  Speaker 2: last time we spoke was one on one was the
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  Speaker 2: day you were hired in the side room over there,
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  Speaker 2: and it was I mean, will win for you? What
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  Speaker 2: things going on? And I remember we talked a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about John Snyder that day, and I want to
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  Speaker 2: go back to that because here's a GM that I
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  Speaker 2: mean to me in my mind. I don't know, you
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  Speaker 2: might would agree. He's got to be the best GM
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  Speaker 2: in the football right now. He's got two super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: championships with two separate quarterbacks and two separate rosters and
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  Speaker 2: two separate head coaches. What he's done is remarkable in
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  Speaker 2: this game. So we all know that. But for you
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  Speaker 2: as a head coach when you came here, you had
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  Speaker 2: to buy into John Schneider but also have that rapport.
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  Speaker 2: When did you feel that and what is it about
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  Speaker 2: him that makes him special and kind of separates him. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's a great question. Thanks for setting that up.
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  Speaker 6: I think that I don't know if it was a
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  Speaker 6: buy in. I think it was an alignment from the
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  Speaker 6: get go. And we have two different styles about how
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  Speaker 6: we kind of do what we do, but like I
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  Speaker 6: think we share a vision about like what is really
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  Speaker 6: important to us. But in terms of like the atmosphere,
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  Speaker 6: we're trying to create in the building, what you know,
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  Speaker 6: like Seahawks culture, what that means, you know, and we're
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  Speaker 6: building off of what they've built, you know, through you know,
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  Speaker 6: Pete and Coach Holmgan's years and all that.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't there wasn't necessarily buying.
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  Speaker 6: Now there's some things that like mechanisms that he did
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  Speaker 6: that I wasn't used to, And for me it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: of course I'm gonna trust John Schneider, like you know,
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  Speaker 6: he wants this is the way he does. Okay, it
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  Speaker 6: sounds great, like we're gonna give this a shot.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: So if I came in guns blazing and I'd just
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  Speaker 6: be absolutely foolish. But when I when I think of
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  Speaker 6: our relationship, I think there's so many times even now,
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  Speaker 6: but especially in our first first year or two, like
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  Speaker 6: where it was so foggy for me and it was
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  Speaker 6: just not clear or we were going through something, and
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  Speaker 6: he could have easily just came in hot, you know,
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  Speaker 6: with with the answer or you know, you know, put
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  Speaker 6: his thumb on the scale. But he created this environment
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  Speaker 6: with me where he let me. He just he kind
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  Speaker 6: of figured it out to where I could I could
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  Speaker 6: come to the conclusion through his like guidance and his help,
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  Speaker 6: if that makes sense. Yeah, And he's just got so
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  Speaker 6: he says, he kind of thinks like three dimensionally like that,
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  Speaker 6: which is really cool, but but takes the edge off,
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  Speaker 6: you know, in all of his interactions. So it's a
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  Speaker 6: it's a special combination. And uh, he's a sharp cookie, man,
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  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what he's He's he's really.
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  Speaker 4: Impressive, as are you, Mike McDonald with this. Uh uh.
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  Speaker 4: When people ask me about Brian Florey and and what
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  Speaker 4: to expect, I say, I don't know. I haven't seen
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  Speaker 4: set up a game and call a game. Yeah right,
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: and and it neither have you. Right. But what I
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: say is that my best thing that I like about
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: Brian Floyd is Mike McDonald hired him. You're you're gonna
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: be tough on offensive coordinators.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: You have been.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: What was it that you needed to see and hear
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: from Brian Florey when you talk to him, that that
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: made you satisfy. This is he's he's a never time
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: play caller, but he's my guy.
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I want to be known as
• 14:17
  Speaker 6: hard on our offensive coordinators, like a good working together,
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: you know. I just I really appreciated how he saw
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: the game and like what was important to him on
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: on how to build an offense. Given offense, well, you know,
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: it's easy to get in an interview and say, hey,
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: we're gonna run this game and we're gonna be this
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: and we're gonna have all the things, but to him,
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: it was it was about how we play the game.
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: And there was so much parallel to how we want
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: our football team to play, you know, and how we
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: built our offense last year and how that coincides how
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: we play special teams and defense. And I think him
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: having been on the other side of the ball and
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: on special teams, so his career is you know, give
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: him this three sixty perspective of the game, which is
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: really cool, and he sees how it's all connected. You know,
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: you could tell he's incredibly sharp. He's a great communicator.
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: There's no bs, you know, there's no fluff.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Which is which I always appreciate.
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: And uh, and he can coach the heck out of
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: a football team, you know, and so being able to
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: have like he can see the quarterback through the lens
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: that the quarterback needs to be coached, but he can
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: also connect that to the timing of routes and how
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: we play combinations up front and how we get in
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: out of how we operate.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: And and he's opening new ideas too. You know.
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: It's not like just like, hey, this is this is
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: a non negotiables you know, from A to Z. It's
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: he's always he's trying to look to get better. And
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: it's not like I'm like critiquing. I'm like, we're working together.
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: You know, we're where I'm asking him question, but what
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: he's thinking he's asking me.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: It's just it's just kind of a like a tag team,
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: you know, which is a lot of fun.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the details with him the other day, Yeah,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: like it's I thought that was an interesting comment. You
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: said that you're learning from him every day. Oh yeah,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: and it's details and the little things like how you
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: carry the ball. I mean, we do a segment every
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Monday called Hardcore Football, and you will break down as
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: hardcore as it can from an x NFL quarterback for
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: us dummies out here. But he talked, we've talked about it,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: like hey, he's carrying his ball, like little things like that.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Like the little things that
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: jumped out of you.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like you know in the spring now like now,
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: I was just doing an interview earlier. But like training
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: if you if you look at training camp through like okay,
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: it's this long period of time. But if we could
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: so somehow we could stack all these meaningful reps like
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: that's when you create something cool, that's when you that's
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: when you're building your team. But if you're just doing
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: the motions, like you know, you're getting break here, brick here,
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: it's not like.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Cohesive, you know.
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: And so like the way that the off season is
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: now is there's so many rules on what you can
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: and can't do. And so he was able to put
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: it through the lens of okay, even though we're doing
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: like routes on air in May, like this is how
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: we're simulating what happens in games, and this is how
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: it applies. So it's like little things like that that
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: I'd never offensive football like coach like that, you know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: to that level of detail that far out with a
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: big perspective and getting the guys to buy in, and
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: you're creating those habits that now shows up when we're
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: in pads. And you know, we saw play with Coop today.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, Coop's a master of this stuff. But like
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: he catch the ball, drop step, you know, makes a
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: guy like he's in the open field, slashes off the guy.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: You know, it's probably a touchdown, you know, And I
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: think we've maximized, you know, that opportunity for that type
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: of stuff to happen because because of how we coach
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: that type of stuff throughout, you know, since we got
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: here in April.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald with this huge kind of partially joked, I
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: assume the few days before the Super Bowl that Nick's
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: injury was keeping you up, waking you up. I wasn't joking,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: you weren't joking, Okay, he was, okay, not partially joking.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: All serious. Okay, So what is it today that might
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: wake you up concerned about your football? Give us something
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: First of all, that you say, you know what, I
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: sleep really well because of this, but what might Yeah,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: go ahead.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: I had I had a night well I said, it's
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: a dream, but it was really a nightmare that Eric
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: Kennedy retired last nay, okay, equipment. Well, you know, he's
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: just like he's such like a just a just like
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: a connected He's like he's an absolute institution here and
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: just like a just a founding, massive member of her operation.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: And so I got it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: I literally when I got in this morning after I worked,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: I went in and I was like, you're not retiring?
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Like you're still here? He's like, no, I'm here.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: I was all right, thank god, that's probably the answer, honestly,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: but honestly like like foot off the gas, not abiding
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: by like an honest process, just going through the motions,
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: you know, getting getting just complacency, you know that that
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: type of stuff.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Is you seen any of that?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: No, But I still I still think about it. Yeah, trying.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to say I'm not I'm trying to not
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: say the word worry, okay, trying to focus on I'm
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: getting coached. I'm getting to coach. I thought it was funny.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: I'll just say this.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed the interaction between you and our good friend
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell the other day when he's pressing Uneven worried
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you were not gonna give us an answer. You were
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: not gonna give us answer. I'm sure you won't know.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I appreciate Greg, and he tried. It was as a
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: hell of an effort. But you brought up in that
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: same conversation as Zach Charboney for a second, and outside
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: of the football player, you talked about his spirit around
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the team. And here's a guy coming off a bat
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: acl we see him walking around and and the running
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: back position. Probably you're not worried about it. You're not
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: gonna use that term, but I know you like to
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: get him back. But what is it about his spirit?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe taking a bigger picture, because I heard the word
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: connected a lot with his team and how connected and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: tight they were. Guys from different backgrounds, different races, different rounds,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: they were drafted all connected together. And it sounds like
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Sharbon is a guy that kind of helps with that
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: Definitely. You know he uh, he was putting. He's been
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: in some tough spots since we got here. And it's
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: like the leadership behind behind the scenes, I think is
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: the first thing, Like in tough times, he goes to
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: the he goes to his teammates. You know, it's like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: it's not Zach, it's my guys, you know, And it's
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: not I don't know that because of like he tells me,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: it's because you can see it, you know, and that's
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: that's how he operates. And so if I could see it,
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: the players definitely feel that.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Every day.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: When he's when he was healthy, just like the daily
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: work ethic of all the things. It's just like clockwork,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: you know. And then to hear how he's gone about
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: his process to come back.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: From this injury.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: It's not an easy and easy injury to come back from,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: you know. But you hear about the reports and you
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: hear and you see the progress and where he is now.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, you just you just want the best of
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: the guy, you know. You just like he just he
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: deserves the best because of because of what he's done.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I bring him up for this reason. It because every
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: football team you kind of look from the outside, like
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: all of us looks from the outside, and you see,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: like who are the leaders? The quarterback is normally going
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to be a leader for you. Ernest Jones comes across
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: as being Julian love guys like that. But to have
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: this team reached the levels it needs, you're gonna have
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: guys that maybe, like a fan might be listening, maybe
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: we're thinking why, I don't know, Zach Scharbonay was that guy? Like, yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the Blue guys that connected guys? How many of those guys? Like,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: is character a big thing that you guys look for
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to in the draft and everything else and free agency?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: And like what what does that mean to what you're doing? Yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I mean we used to like, I totally want Seahawks.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You know, then they come.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: You know, you could have a Devi Witherspoon who's super
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: outgoing and competitive and you know he's got his style
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: style away, but he's he's just as much of a
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: Seahawks as Zach Sharbonay, as Charles Cross a j B.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: You just you go right down the line with his team,
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: and you know, it's hard to find a guy that
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: creates any drag or you're not excited about seeing, you know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: And so I'm sure the players feel the same way.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Which is just so much such a fun team to coach.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: As we let you go, give us just one story.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Fans love to hear stories. There must there must have
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: been something that was cool or interesting or note worthy
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: about Super Bowl winning head coach Mike McDonald. Maybe it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: a Starbucks or something something. Somebody looked at you different
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: than they did before. What what? What?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: What?
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: In the experience I was, I was invited to play
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: in the American Century Championship in Tahoe, and so that
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: was that was a great That was a great honor,
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: and it's a great They do a phenomenal job and
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: you're meeting people that you're like, I literally looked at
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: like one hundred people that time, like, my life is
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: so dumb right now that I.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Get to do this.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: So I get But so but the one thing that
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: everyone told is, I look, the first T you're gonna
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: be you know, your nerves are gonna be wrolling, so
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: you know, get ready for that. So okay, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking about it anyway. So I get to the
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: first T. They you know, they instead of introducing me
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: as you know whatever the accolades, I was the two
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: thousand and five physics student of the year since high
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: school and that's who they uh, that's how they introduced me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: So I I get over the ball and I've played.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: I played a lot of golf this summer, and I
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: just remember thinking like, I don't know how I'm gonna make.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Contact with you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: Just don't top it, don't And there's like a couple
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: hundred people there and I get to the black of
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: my swing and I just my body just like unravels
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: and I topped the ball into the hazard no. Twenty
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: yards in front of all, and it was just like, well,
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: can I get any worse than this?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Boys, like a good time. I've seen your swing. You
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: played it a holly too and the bay I saw
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the swing and I'm like this, are you single digit
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: where I am?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm back out. So topping the ball is not
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: in your repertoire ever, well apparently it is so, But
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that was that was.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: A great experience. We had a lot of fun. But
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: that'll bring it back down. You have a new appreciation
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: for kickers, that's right, right, and that game winning yeah,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I mean and.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: All honesty, Like it is a great test of like
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: process and thinking about like what you need to do,
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: not worry about all whatever is doing. So it'll be
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: a story for a team meeting at some point.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I got one more was wrap things up and you've
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: dressed it a couple of times. But it's wild to
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: see the hard knocks thing out here. And it's different too.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I'm a TV nerd, That's kind of where I started
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the business, and so I like, I'm watching these guys
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and trying to figure out what they're doing. They blend in.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Great job by the Seahawks. Brian O'Connell like they blend in.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: They weren't kind of the same colors as your coaches
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: and stuff, so you only see them. But for you
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: guys as a team, you said, embrace it. I think
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: everyone's embraced it here. What is it like having those
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: guys around?
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: It's been seamless. Yeah, Like the first the first day,
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: you know, there's there's yeah, there's where they are. There's
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: the first day it's like, okay, that's someone. I'm not
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: used to someone being right there. Now there's somebody there.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not used to being miked up. Now miked up.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: But it's just kind of like anything, it's just.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Adapt and and just go about your business. I mean,
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: there's so many other things you need to be focused on,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: you know, And I need to practice what I'm preaching too,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: Like we got to just be us, right, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: so if we're kind of out of pocket, we're kind
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: of out of whack, then then uh, it's fully.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: No good for anybody. Do you think fans will be
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: surprised by what they say? It's Tuesday, right, I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it's the first episode Tuesday, the fourth Do you think
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: fans will be surprised? What do you think is gonna
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: come out? Like anything? In your back of mind saying
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: some people be surprised.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Sometimes I'm like, how do people do people think that
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: we actually like can get a first down r out here?
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Because it's like sometimes its kind of maym so, uh
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: it'll be maybe, I don't know, we'll see how crazy
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: it seems in there, but yeah, sometimes you're like, yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: we're kind of we're kind of crazy.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: But I love it. I love it. Well, listen, thank
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: you you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all good appreciated.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Coach hammer Down that is Mike McDonald, the head coach
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of the Seattle Seahawks, will take a break, come back
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: with more in ninety three point three.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: kJ FM Now back to Ian Furness at the Virginia
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: Mason Athletics Center and our special coverage of Seahawks training
• 25:22
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  Speaker 2: We're back here to Virginia Mason Athletic Center, early practice today.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: No fans, very business like pads on for the first time.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Really no music out here either, which was a kind
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of a first. Usually he's got a little bit of
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: music plans. They're quiet outside the Blue Angels that provided
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: plenty of noise. Uh. Humilan is sitting down with us
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: for a few minutes.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, I just uh, you know, we've you and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I've interviewed and separately together whatever zillions of people over
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the years, uh, including Pete, Mike, whoever else. And I
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: said up the day that he was hired. Uh, And
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I remember, I'm not patting myself in the back as much.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I just remember saying that day was hard. He he
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he had this this aura about him, like there's a
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: he's got a presence. You know, not every coach has that,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: right be it factor. I just feel with this guy
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Uh.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I can't speak more highly of him. I don't know,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: you know, he's in the running for my favorite coach
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: ye professional sports.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just love his humility.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: There's a he pulls off this rare accomplishment where he
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: comes across and he is genuinely humble. He is a
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: humble guy, but he is he has no pushover whatsoever.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: He walked into that team after Pete Carroll left and
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: and it's my conjecture. I'm not in all the players' heads,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: but I think my sense is that they were immediately
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: drawn to his intelligence, right, and but then he there's
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: an understated demanding Like when I played for Don James,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: that was it was understated, it was overstated, it was ubiquitous,
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: it was every aspect about Don james coaching style was
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: very demanding and and business like, no nonsense. And I
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: think what what he does, because he's adopting with the times.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: You know, what's innate in him is that he has
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: kind of this care for you, Hey be yourself, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: he has a hard line and he's very demanding and
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: and if you're not meeting his threshold, now, all of
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: a sudden, he'd become He can become a you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: a Bill Parcells Don James red ass, you know, like
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: like this is not the f and standard. So he
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: pulls that off the combination of those two are are
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: not often blended. And I don't know. I would love
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: to play for him. You know, he would come across.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: He comes across as like I'd liked hard coach coaches
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I did. I played for some soft coaches in my career.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I played for hard. I liked all the hard ones
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: because I you know, I didn't like it when somebody
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: was grab ass in or not hustling a teammate, you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: because it's like, wait a minute, we're cheating ourselves. We're
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: not reaching our potential if you're doing that. And so
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I loved it when coaches and I saw everybody and
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: you know it might be directed to me too, but
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I want I want to coach to hold this very
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: demanding and accountable. He does it in a very cool way.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I I, uh, you know, watching today's practice. Let me
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: wrap up mcguck. Can you stick around for the final
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: segment of the hour? Yeah, I got we got five
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: minutes here, we got take a break. I want I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: want to get some thoughts up from you. Just now
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that you've watched these guys for a few days, we
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: haven't had a chance to catch up with you. So
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: we'll do that. In the final segment of this hour,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: we wrap up McDonald with this. You know, I was
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: talking to one of the guys, one of the staffers
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: before during practice today, you know about McDonald walking in here.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: What you said, like, he walks in here after Pete
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Carroll has this incredible run and John Schnudder established GM.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Obviously things change with the power structure the organization with
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: John uh kind of leading it up now and Pete
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: not here anymore. But you know, Pete had a core
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: group of guys. They probably had a couple elements frankly
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: for being honest, Jamal Adams, and a couple of others
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: that they needed to get rid of. But this person
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: was saying that what McDonald was able to do from
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: day one was get everyone to buy into him as
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a first year head coach. As a first year head coach,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and then he admits to us that that first year
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: he was in a fog at times. Right, it was
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: probably overwhelming. Some guys are going to get run over
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: by the truck at that point. This guy embraced the challenge,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and I kind of chuckled because he makes it sound
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: like that first year they were not good. They were
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: nine and seven or nine an eight, right, not an eight? Yeah?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Like they still a winning record, yeah, eight, ten and seven,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: ten and seven math not my strong you know that,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: but ten seven like, and the way he's talking about
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the first year, I was just over like, oh my
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: fog and shar kind of got me down.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's part of the humility.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: You were ten and seven. Yeah, yeah, that's the low bar.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, in the last game, it didn't matter ramsca.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: You could say nine and a half and seven and
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: a half what you know what?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Everything he did he was two years in Baltimore.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Damn, that's a question I would have wanted.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: He was one year at Michigan, two years in Baltimore.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: This is the first time he's had year three, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: so you would expect that he could keep building on it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: You know, we touched on, hey, you got evolve, right
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: because everybody's gonna figure you out. So I think we
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: asked him a question that was tangent, you know, related
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: to that. But specifically, we've never seen Mike McDonald coaching
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: a unit in the third year and look at look
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: at the ascent that he had both at Baltimore and
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: and here from year one to year two. And by
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the way, at Michigan, he took him from ninety fourth
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: or ninety fifth in points to seventh. They were giving
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: up thirty four and a half points the year before
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: they got here. They got them down to seventeen in
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: one season.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Their only issues they play in this division that's got
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: two other juggernauts in it. I mean, if we're Matthew Staffords,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the reality is is that if you you know, I mean,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: everybody wants to do their you know, whether you look
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: at Vegas and odds or power structures or this, that
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and the other thing. I mean, everyone loves the Rams
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and rightfully so what they did in the off season
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: is remarkable and they were one play away from and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: we always I think we all can say this, if
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: they go to the super Bowl, they win it, right
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: like judging all what they what the Seahawks did to
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: do England. But that's your that's your role, Bloy. Any
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: other division, we'd be making plans for the playoffs and
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: NFC Championship game right now. You got to go through
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the Rams. You got to go through the forty nine ers,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: depending on what their health is. It's an incredibly tough division,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: like incredibly tough. But this is the kind of guy
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: that that we didn't you know, we didn't care, We
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: did not care that kind of stuff. You kind of
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: feel that attitude coming through. It's like, whatever, here we.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Go, man, we could talk to that guy for an hour. Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: or hours.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Let's do this. Let's take a quick break, we'll come back.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: We'll wrap up hour number one. He was able to
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: play eyes on the padded practice for the first time,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the first pad of practice today. I want to get
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: your thoughts if I can, on running backs. If you
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: were I know you you've talked about that this morning
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and you said chuck this morning. I think it was,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: or maybe it was softy last night, whatever it was,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: just say, once they put the pads on, I want
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to see what the running backs look like. Yeah, because
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys look good when no one's tackling
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: you not tackling. But yeah, physical, it's elevated, the contact
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: elevated today. All Right, real football today almost almost h
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: closer to real football than what then seven or seven.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Closer than what they happened. They were in pads. They
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: were in pads. They had a very professional practice. We'll
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: talk about that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, here in a second.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: But but yeah, the running backs are of worry for me.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: He he not gonna worry because.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I say the worried word. Did you say the w word?
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Well, I probably shouldn't say worried. There's nothing about this
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: team that worries me. All right, Maybe it's a but concern. Yeah, question, Yeah,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I got a handful of questions. Yeah, I'll so do
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: I we'll do it next.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Fernets at the Virginia Mason Athletics
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Center and our special coverage of Seahawks training camp, brought
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• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Genia Mason Athletics are big thanks to Mike McDonald who
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: stopped by today. Will probably we did not care. Nope,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: we did not. We did not, But we did we
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: care that he came by. It was awesome. Hum, Mellen's here.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: First day in pads, third day. You've got a chance
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: to lay eyes on these guys in person. I know
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Softy hate storylines and narratives. I'm gonna I try to
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: point this out to him. He may hate all that
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: a he also does it in his show. Yeah, when
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: he asked you questions, and b the people listening do care,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: they like they care about those things. So I'm gonna
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: ask you this.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Well, you got the world champions. Yeah uh, and they're
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: spoting the ball and they're they're they're practicing. Today was
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the first day in press, so.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I'll ask you this. Yeah, we talked about running backs.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: If you're just kind of putting your pyramid together, your
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: list together in terms of things that you will watch
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: throughout the rest of training camp and in the preseason,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: is the running pack position number one?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Number one? Probably? Yeah, probably. I think it's the you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: losing Kenneth Walker fourteen million dollars. You know, I'll be
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: wondering all year whether or not it would have been
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: worth keeping him. But I do think it's interesting to
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: note that today the first pad practice, the first the
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: first team drill ones against ones, and Jadarian Price lined
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: up and not only did he was he in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: huddle and on the field, they snapped the ball and
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: they handed him the ball. The very first padded carry
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: of twenty twenty six was given to Jedarium Price. So
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: there's been a lot of talk about, well Hallani is
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: in the ones that may be just that's another question.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Let's listen. If you're listening to go, why don't you
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: ask him this? Trust me, we got all those questions,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: you know, but and we'd love to probe the running
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: backs for fifteen minutes as well.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not. He's not going to give us stepth
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: chart on running back. Yeah, there's a waste, waste of
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: time and energy if you do well.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: A question to ask him would be, Hey, some coaches
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: they say, hey, if you're number one draft pick, you're
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: you're you're you're a starter right now.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: You Charles Cross day one was playing with the ones
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: that left tackle exact day one.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: That's any other examples. Yeah, Others say, well, you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: have a few reps, kind of let your teammates see
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: that you earned your way into the number one.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: So what so what do you see from Price?
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm concerned about uh, his his frameka and yeah
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: he's he's got skinny legs, particularly you know, his knees, ankles, calves.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: He doesn't he doesn't look like most NFL running backs.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: That is not to say, let me say this that
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: does That doesn't mean that's a guaranteed he can't play.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: He could play seventeen. Hell, he could play twenty games
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: this year, uh and and never get hurt. But I'm
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: just establishing a correlation that most running backs are are
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: have a thicker build. They take an immense pounding because
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: obviously they're carrying the ball. They're once whoever's carrying the ball,
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: they're trying to murder you. And it's not one guy,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: it's you know, three, four guys can be hitting you
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: at one time, and so the body goes in weird
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: ways and takes on some some serious forces. And as
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: a general rule, you see those running backs there's a
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: there's a thickness to their stature, not not just their
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: their their musculature, but also their bone density. And I
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: don't know, he just looks a little slight to me.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: What did you see from him running the ball? Well?
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: He uh, I saw some good vision things from him,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: you know, on a lead play where he's he's going
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: up and then the lateral quickness and then go. He
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: showed a lot of that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's nice. That that that's that's why he's a
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: first round draft pick. So we saw some of that.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: He's h he's a little bit of a heel toe
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: guy that uh you know, you know for for those
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: who know uh track parlance. You know you've got your
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: stride length, you got the your stride. You know when
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: when your foot hits the ground the strike. Obviously time
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: can be uh in infinite decimals and infinite fractions. So
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: so how long is your foot on the ground, you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: down to one hundredth of a second, that type of
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: thing when you you see, you know, real twitchy guys
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: have a fast strike. You know their their foots only
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: in the ground for you know, uh, everybody's as a
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: fraction a second, but a fraction of a fraction of
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: a second for.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: The really twitchy dudes. Right, So I.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Feel like there's a little bit of a heel toe
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: uh uh uh, you know, lack of of of elite
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: twitchy burst. But I think his lateral quickness, his vision,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: he showed that today. So I think it's for me.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of unanswered questions that there's a lot
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: to like, there's some fair things to be curious and
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: and and again unanswered questions.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, about two minutes here left. Anything else jump out today?
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Well, I think Bud Clark, uh, he's running with the
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: twos and I and but but they he started with
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: the twos, but then they gave him a rep with
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the ones, you know, and and so that would be
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Tayo Katta because Julian Love is not going anywhere, right
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: And I think of them mostly of as a too
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: high team. They play a lot of single lie, but
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I think of mostly as a too high. So a
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: year ago you had Julian Love, a Kobe Bryant in
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: the back end, and then the the the nickel and
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: the dime guys down the line of scrimmage are were
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: we're even even worry is the Sam linebackers in there
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: in what what the league would call a nickel what
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald would call his bass, you know, that's one dB.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: And then when they go dime, then they dropped Witherspoon in,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: you know, and they had Rik Wollan and Josh job
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: on the other side. So neam I Pritchett is a
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: starting cornerback for your Seattle Seahawks.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Like that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: That's been a constant out here. So get to know
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: the young man from Auburn, the no opposite opposite joke. Yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: So yeah, and they uh they have you know, they've
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: because even Worry is out, they've got some you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: he's there their starting He's taking even Warriors spot. Now
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: he's too eleven pounds. Eman Moory was two twenty uh
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: In years past, you had Witherspoon playing a lot of that,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: even on first down, you know, and going against hardball
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: sets from the offense. And remember now Witherspoon was one
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: hundred and eighty one pounds at the combine. Evan Worry
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: was exactly two twenty. So what there's an obvious upgrade there,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: And so that allowed Witherspoon the year before he only
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: had thirty percent of his snaps. This is Witherspoon outside
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: corner set seventy percent, everything else, some variation inside depending
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: on the front and the coverage, but against seventy percent inside,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: so last year was fifty one percent. So he goes
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: from thirty to fifty one percent outside. And I had
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: thought they wanted to acquire Bud Clark to maybe be
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: the dime guy. So Eman Worry on one side over
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: one slot and Bud Clark to be on the other.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: But they're playing him more in the Kobe Bryant replacement
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: mode as opposed to down at the line of scrimmage,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: so there's seeing some things schematically. Bud Clark is I
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: like how he comes downhill. He so, so the interesting
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: thing about Mike McDonald is that there's areas where he says, no,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: I need some force and violence, and you know, the
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: the uh Derek Hall, for example, chosen over Boy Moffin right, Like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: there's just a there's more physicality. But he plays with
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys dbs that are relatively light. Julian
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Love was a corner in college. Kobe Bryant was a corner.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: In fact, he won the Thorpe Award for the Best dB.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: But he was a corner in college. Bud Clark is
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: is a skinny little safety, so so he he will
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: target guys that are relatively light by NFL standards for
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: that position, namely safety. But then he he obviously knows, well,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: we gotta we gotta have some physicality somewhere, and he
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: picks it up in other areas, you know, to have uh,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: you know d you know, big Kat Williams is one
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: of the biggest defensive you know, athletic defensive tackles in
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: the league. And and having having those edge guys.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Well you look through there, I mean, as you're saying that,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, they got a lot of guys
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: that would, as you're saying, kind of come across to
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: me as light in that regard. I mean Julian Love, Ocatta,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Bud Clark, Job Witherspoon, Hell Throw, Drake Thomas starting linebacker,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: inside linebacker. Yeah, they but but they do all play
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: probably a style that he likes to see whether it's cerebral,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: also used to come a downhill and play a physical brand.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Then you got other guys like, yeah, Derek Hall is
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: not playing light, well, he's playing light.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: No. As a general rule, uh, if if you're lighter
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: and you're relatively low on the physicality, the bam bam presence, yes,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: then you've ought to bring something else. And that something
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: else is the athleticism to turn uh uh and and
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: get to the football faster. And then of course if
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: you're if you're running fast enough, you can still create
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: the violence by virtue of the speed that's.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Coming in on you.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: If like Julian Love is a guy that doesn't need
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: to break down, you know when he comes, he takes
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: a great angle and he's not a real big guy.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: But because he's not breaking down. He's he's got the
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: physics behind him because he comes up on ball carriers
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: going near full speed.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: A good stuff. Appreciate you coming by that, of course. Good.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Good to have you here. Uh, I don't know you're
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: noting to that. I don't know, No, I don't. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: don't think so well oiled machine here you're supposed to,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: you know, punch in and punch out like that. We're
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: like a union here. Nine to five.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Fella, well I was went four hours this morning, so okay,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: well yeah, that's that's that's a lot more than enough
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: of me.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: That's sure good to see. All right, few mail will
• 44:05
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• 45:20
  Speaker 2: the other side, and if you do, it'll turn into
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: an acrimonious argument. And that's exactly what happened on Tuesday,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: and ugly situation if we're being honest, not becoming of
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: a co owner of a professional sports franchise not enough
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: if she disagreed with someone. NFL baker Mayfield said Thursday
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: he felt disrespected a little bit that he and the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: team cannot reach an agreement on a new contract before
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: his apost deadline. It started training camp. Things are going
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: swimmingly down there in Tampa Bay right now?
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah good?
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: Getting a two?
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. The avanas like he's out, I'm out, And
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: here's the eighth. He thinks he's an NHL player. By
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the way, he's going to give you a list of
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: eight teams he'll go to and nobody else.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: It's probably gonna go on the Rams. Let's be honest.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: If that happens, and I'm like, how yeah, well, his
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: contractor's no chance.
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: Let's see Rams in the football Vegas Golden Knights and hockey,
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: and Dodgers in baseball. Three of those teams are just
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: for everyone wants.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Again. The only way you make it work, though, is
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: in with the Rams is if like, you got to
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: cut some people, I guess right, yeah, And even then,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: even then, the dead cat money's gonna hurt you. So
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: don't I don't think he's out there. I hope I
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: don't think. So Let's get to our number two.
• 46:31
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• 46:56
  Speaker 2: All right, we're here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: It's early practice today, first day at full pads. They're
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: done there. I'm basically by myself here now on the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: patio is my man'grapher from the King has left. He
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: was left. Everyone's left. Wow, it's just me. I feel
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: like the old days. Yeah, I'm waiting for Marshawn to
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: come driving by this single seed speed bike like you
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: did that day with with pucking me. That's good, uh
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: they because back then when he was dead, they practiced
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: at ten in the morning. Yeah, so we were always
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: out here by ourselves in the afternoon asking ourselves why.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Are we here?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Practice has been over for four hours. The show is
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: just now starting. But we had some great moments and
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Marshawn driving by his single seed bike speed bike was
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: the greatest one ever that Bennett did. That too was
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: once as well, but Bennett actually stopped buying said Hi, Yeah,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Marshawn rang his little bell, literally had a bell on
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: the on the bike, I kid, you know, rang it,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: smiled at us, drove by and then about ten minutes later,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: drove by again and I'm going to be seen again. Yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: that's so good. Was that? That actually made all the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: days here for you know, with no guests and no
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: nothing going on, sitting in the sun. Yeah, made it
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: worthwhile to have that, those moments with Mark.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to see a couple of things that
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: some people didn't get to.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: S Yeah, that's Marshawn. Whatever. Here we are, let's do
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: our thing. Yeah, ding ding ding ding? Uh what you
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: have a thought on if people miss We had Mike
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: McDonald on the first hour humiling at me and uh
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: and it was a great interview a ton of and listen,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: it was big picture stuff that we weren't going to
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: get into the minutia of today's practice. We'll do that.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I think Corbyn's gonna join me coming up at two today. Uh,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: so we'll do it with him. Then you heard Hughes
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: thoughts a minute ago as well, you had a question
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: about McDonald.
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I just wanted to point out because
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: you know, this is something that I think so many
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: people associate with him, usually with NFL head coaches.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: It's like he's either a scheme guy.
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: He's like a guy that draws up plays or you know,
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: can can find a way to scheme guys open offensively
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: or the opposite defensively, or he's a he's a culture guy,
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: or you know, he's a he's kind of an intangibles guy.
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: And I think Mike McDonald, through the first year plus
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: of his uh tenure, it was always viewed as kind
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: of like the defensive version of like a Ben Johnson, right,
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: just an absolute mad scientist that would scheme anyone open
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: and fine or sorry open and I talk about offensively,
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: but it just.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: Saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was always a scheme guy.
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: But the more I the more I hear from him,
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: the more I talk to him, and I'm wondering if
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: you view the same way, it almost feels like his
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: intangibles get really overlooked in terms of what he looks
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: for and building a culture and uh, you know, kind
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: of how he brings the team together, so to speak.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: So there was a there was a thing in the
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: at the his first year, and and I could but
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to sell the guy out, because we
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: all say things that that sure our miss our mistakes
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: and and you know, years later just sound dumb, okay,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: But there was there's a guy on our station, a
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: person our station, that was saying that in terms of
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, this is his first year. He doesn't look
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: like he's in command. He doesn't like he's he doesn't
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: look like a head coach, doesn't look like an NFL hit.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: It does look like he's dead, has a command of
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: what's going on the sideline and the team and all this.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget that because at that point I had
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: done a sit down with McDonald. I had talked to
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: him enough. I've been out here enough just and I say,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: talked to him in the scrums and so forth, and
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: talk to enough players to know that that couldn't have
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: been further from the truth right fast forward here to
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: two years ago. And so I bring that up for
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: this reason. I think he's always had that about him,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the presence, you know, like just kind of that aura
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: around him as a head coach, and and you know,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: some guys have it and some guys don't. And in
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: all sports, in all sports, you know, And I think
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I think if you look around over the years, there's
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: you know, man and managers have had it and haven't
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: had it, right, I mean, if we're being honest, Dan
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like he has no he does not.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Dan Bilesma definitely didn't have it with the Kraken right lane.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Does Holmgren had it? Moura at this level did not?
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: For example, I think people will tell you Dennis Ericson
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: didn't really have it at this level. He's got that
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: about him, you know, Hughes Hugh can speak on it
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: far better than any of the rest of us on
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: the station. But as a defensive guy, defensive coach, he
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: has this. He's a mad scientist, right, he does things
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: that nobody's ever done, very much like McVeigh or others,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: or Shanahan or you know Ben Jonson, like he's he's
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: an innovator in that regard and the ex'es and the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: o's on the defensive side. But what makes me a
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: great coach is he has the other intangibles you're mentioning
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: as well every player I've talked to and you've been
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: on almost all the interviews you've taped him or done
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: them live with me over the last two years. Anders really, Yeah,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: every player I ask about Mike McDonald and every guy
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: speaks in massively glowing terms about him and who he
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: is and what he is and what he brings. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to see that with Hard Knocks.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I think with the heart when the Hard Knocks thing
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: comes up. What I'm really excited about it. First of all,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see some stuff behind the scenes that
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: we don't even see exactly, you know, like like that
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: none of us see and and you know, I I
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I think that'll be kind of fun in the bowels
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: of the of the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, or inside
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: of a huddle with guys wearing Seahawks uniforms and helmets
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: as opposed to other teams that we've seen them all
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: these years, and in Hard Knocks. But I think we'll
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: see everything you just said about Mike McDonald asked about
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Mike Donal. I think we're gonna see that, and then
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: something I think we're gonna see who and what he
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: is you know, Dan Campbell became.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: A star exactly. That's kind of yeah.
• 52:33
  Speaker 9: I And now it's kind of alluding to that too,
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: because like you have the two ends of the spectrum
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: for head coaches, right, the guys that are just very
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: much scheme guys like you know, like Kyle Shanahan, right,
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: or just a total Dan Campbell just I'm gonna get
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: everyone riled up, sort of well.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Like like Campbell, I think Campbell before Hard Knocks, people
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: just said, well, this guy's.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: Just a meathead, yeah right right, Like he's just he's just.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: An like he was a tight end and he's just
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: kicking guys ass of the line of scridge and he's
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: just a you know, like you said, raw raw football coaching.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: He should be coaching high school football on a Friday
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: in Texas, right, Like he's just you know, and and
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: and then you have to see Hard Knocks and you
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: see you see the relationships he has with players, you
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: see the relationship of the conversations he has with a GM,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: and you go, there's a lot more to Dan Campbell
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: when I thought, right, I think I think with Mike McDonald,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: there's probably a perception around the league because don't people
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: don't hear him talk that much, you know, and he's
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: not you know when.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: He's not a sound bite king or anything like that.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: No, it's not like mc veigh gets because studs great,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: you know, and his voice is rasping. I'll tell you what.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this breaks, you know, like all that,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: and that's McVeigh.
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Well like McDonald is a lot more subdued and quiet
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: and kind of thought is this is cerebral, defensive, genius,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: mad scientists. I think we'll see in Hard Knocks a
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: lot more Mike McDonald and and who and what we
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: hear from the players all the time. That's I can't wait, man, Tuesday,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the first episode is be awesome. I think on maybe
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: on Monday, I'll probably do it. I've got a I
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: got a little cheat, you know what they're doing so
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: from inside sources egg Yeah, I got a little rundown.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: So we'll tell a little about that later in the week. Okay,
• 54:08
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• 54:10
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  Speaker 8: Now with Ian, here's Eno.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: All right, We're here to the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, the
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Seahawk training camp. Practice as wrapped up for the day
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: in the shores of Lake Washington, and it's a little
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: quieter now as the Blue Angels have finished their practice
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: session as well, so we can check in with Eno
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: SIUs talk some baseball as we get ready for a
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: trade deadline on Mondays. See Mariners wrapping up a series
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: with the Dodgers tonight, and there's a lot to get to.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Hi.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: You know, how are you doing great?
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: How about yourself?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: We're good, We're good. Nice beautiful day here in Seattle,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: sitting outside and enjoying things quite a bit. Didn't enjoy
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: the baseball game last night from a local perspective, But no,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: we did not. It looks like more like we're used
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: to seeing lately. Before I get into that, I do
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: want to ask you this. We'll get into the Mariners
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: in a second. But I know you guys talked about
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: on the Rates and Berells podcast, and we brought this
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: up yesterday. Tigers and Trek Scouble. Why do you trade them?
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Why do you not trade them?
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Well, you don't trade them because you still have a
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: twenty percent chance of making the postseason and the American
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: League is wide open. You also can put, well, we
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: don't know that'll be a qualifying offer, but in the
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: past you've been able to put a qualifying offer on
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: him and either get him for a year or get
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: something back from when he leaves. So whatever you get
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: has to be like beyond worth that. But the reason
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: you do trade him is because you're not playing that well.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: And despite like projection saying you're the best team in
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: your division, you haven't played that well like that in
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: a while, and your bullpen doesn't look very good and
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: it may just not be your year.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Huh that sounds very familiar.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, well, I guess, I guess I bring that up.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: It's baseball maybe more than other sports. Maybe I'm wrong here,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you correct me if I'm wrong, please do.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm wrong a lot, but baseball more than their sports.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: It feels like you are so much on a year
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: to year basis like most other sports. I can't like, hey,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: you know what're we pink a little bit of a
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: step back this season, but we were a playoff team
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: last year and we can point to these reasons why
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: we still have this good core group of guys or
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: this superstar. We're not gonna move and we're gonna see
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: if we can sneak into the playoffs, or hey, let's
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: let's get going next year. Now, obviously his contract is
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the issue, right, that's the problem. Uh, But but it
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: just I mentioned this to Andrews yesterday. I hate it
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: for baseball. I'd like to see superstars spread out a
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: little bit more, you know, and playing for teams that
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: are the non traditional Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, you know,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: the ones we see on national TV every week. And
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm just too idealistic or you know, too old
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: or too Pollyanna, you know, but I just I don't
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: want to see Trek Scugle moved. And yeah, if he
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: goes to the National League, it's better for our team here,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: but I just call me crazy, I don't want to
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: see the guy moved.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I like it when stars stay with
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: their teams longer. And you know, I do think that
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: even you know, for the right player, like you know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: the the Mariners aren't top top tayroll in the in
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: the the league, but I love the contract they came
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: together with Julio to to create because that's one where
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: like if he plays an MVP level, he gets what
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: he gets, a great contract, and if he doesn't, then
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: the Mariners get a little flexibility. So I mean, I
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: thought that sort of you know, creative thinking could really
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: help a lot of And you start to see it
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: like Milwaukee Brewers have now signed Cooper Pratt their starting shortstop.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: They signed up a forty team to the big leagues
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: for fifty million dollars for sixty years or something, and
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: you stop with cold Emerson, like there's more and more
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: of that going on when saying, hey, we'll at least
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: lock you into six or seven years here, maybe get
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: a year of free agency by giving you the money
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: up front, and that that's a thing that can work.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: But you know, in terms of the year to year thing,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I think that's bang on. And one thing I think
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: about is we do these projections. If you do a
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: projection for a player, it is better than a coints
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: like your you're right, I don't know sixty seventy percent
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: of the time. You kind of get that player pretty good.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Right now, Let's say you're projecting a team. Well, you
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: take a bunch of seventy percent correct bets and you
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: put them on top of each other. What you get
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: you get more error, right, you sort of compound the error,
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: and what you find is that the error band on
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: team projections is ten wins. That's one. That's one standard deviation.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: So that means it's not at all weird for a
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: team that you've projected to be a ninety win team
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: to win one hundred or win eighty. And since so
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: many teams are projected to win like eighty five eighty six,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: they could win seventy. You know, that still wouldn't be
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: that much of an outlying season for them. So it
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: puts that concept of a window kind of to to
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: a lie actually, because you know, a window is only
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: a sort of a relative thing. Speaking like you could
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: you could say, you know that the Orioles could win
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: it all next year, that like that wouldn't be that weird.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't because they would probably projected to be like
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: an eighty six win team next year, eighty five win team,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: and you know they just have to win ten more
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: and have a good postseason. So I do think that
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: that is a it's a feature in baseball. It's it's
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: a bug, but it's also a feature. It's like it's
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: a both things. You know. I like it because you know, injuries,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: poor play, advancement, all sorts of there's all sorts of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: chaos and the numbers and every season, you know, feels
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: like just a whole brand new thing. Like look at
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: the White Sox, man they're in for I know.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I know it's crazy. Well, and you mentioned Baltimore. I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: mean they're a great example. They're Baltimore first clans. Okay,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: the three below five hundred, and they're eleven and a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: half out of first place in the Vision. Oh but
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: they're two and a half this gay window, yes, and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: two and a half out of a will time, right,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: so they get they could get there, and in a
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  Speaker 2: way they go Do you think just we talked about
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the collective Barty agreement, salary caps and stuff a few
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, do you believe there's a lot of things
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: in play when the trade deadline comes up. One of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: those things, obviously, is the fact that twenty four of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: thirty teams are effectively still in a playoff race, Like
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: if they look at the standings there realistically, they can
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  Speaker 2: make an argument they're still in it. And then the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: teams that aren't really don't have maybe a lot to give.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: But so that's one factor with who will be available
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: with the trade deadline. Do you think there's anything to
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  Speaker 2: the fact that most teams probably deep down feel like
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be some sort of lockout or strike or
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it next spring, And I
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  Speaker 2: wonder if that affects it, maybe a sense of urgency
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  Speaker 2: or hey, maybe I will hold on to a trek
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  Speaker 2: scogle because we don't even know what the landscape's going
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  Speaker 2: to look like financially here in six months.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know exactly how it's going to affect things.
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  Speaker 3: I would think that generally, uncertainty makes front offices nervous,
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  Speaker 3: and uncertainty would reduce risk taking. So I guess if
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I was gonna if there is a way to bet
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: on the trade deadline being lackluster, you know, I might
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: bet on that because if you you know, one thing,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I started to see a little bit of a hundred
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Greens on the market for the Reds, and zach Netto
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: might be on the market for the Angels. And the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: reason for that is to say, well, there's only five sellers.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: So if the sellers are selling rentals, yeah, they can
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: get a few prospects here or there. But if the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: sellers say, nah, dude, like you can maybe have our
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: shortstop it's under contract for three years, they might get
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: a haul, like we're talking Juan Soto esque hall. You know.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: So these rebuilding teams are saying, well, you know, there's
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: only like four or five of us that are really
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: going to sell hard, Like maybe we should sell hard
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: and sell something that you know, isn't just a rental
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: and see if we can get some a big haul.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: So that's that's how they're thinking. But I wonder if
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: we'll just hear a lot of rumors about that, and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: it won't actually happen, because what will eventually happen is
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: they say, well, maybe we'll be able to keep these guys.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe it'll be a calf and maybe this. You know,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: so we don't know exactly how it's going to look,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: and maybe these cost control players that we have are
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: going to just be even more gold going forward.
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  Speaker 2: this for me. We talked about it last week and
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  Speaker 2: you went through the reasons why we can be concerned
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: about road Brian Wu. Road Brian Wu wasn't scheduled to
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: start on the road in Los Angeles. Now he is.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to this and a lot to unpact.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: They're taking Bryce Miller moving him back one day. Apparently
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller's velocity has been down. They're a little worried
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: something's going on there. So apparently twenty four hours will
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: make a difference at the expense of road Brian wu
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: going against the Dodgers, you know, makes sense for it.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Make makes sense of this for us, will you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean the thing with Bryce Miller was he
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: had these loose bodies in his elbow and he chose
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: not to get him out, and you know, rest and
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: rehab really worked for him at first, and he came
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: back with ninety seven five in his first game. You know,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: it started to dwindle more than ninety six ninety six,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: and then the last three games ninety five five zero,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: ninety five six. Now that's still slightly slightly above average lossy.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: I can't believe we've gotten to this point. But for
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: a right hand or that is slightly above average velocity
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: for a starter. So it's it's not like doom and gloom,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: but I could see like it's possible. I'm not going
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: to speak for him, but it's possible. But those you know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Trevor May on the podcast now on Rais and Beryls
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: today was talking about how loose spies and the elbow
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: are kind of like a rock in the shoe and like,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: you know, you might be walking for a while and
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: they're in a part where it doesn't hurt, and then
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: you know, you stug yourtail or something happens and then
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: it just it goes right in the middle of your
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: foot and you're just like ah, So, like you know,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: those things move around, and it's possible that they're becoming
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: more painful. So you know, that's affected not only his vlow,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: but his command in the last last few games has
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: been down from a really excellent top. But I think
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: he'll be fine. Maybe they just need to go to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: the true six man to give everybody those extra days.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: And I continue to think that like Brian Woo just
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: needs to maybe you know, pitch two more strikeouts, throw
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: more breaking balls on the road then he then he
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: does at home, just to kind of be cognizant of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: this big split he has. I know that sounds simple,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: and I wonder I would love to hear what who
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: thinks of a bad idea?
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  Speaker 2: The you know, let's go back to Miller for a second,
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  Speaker 2: because yeah, the loose bodies. I love this, like loose
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: bodies or whatever my in my elbow, Like it's like
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: there's a body flow, but it's yeah, he's got the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: little whatever, the chips and stuff like that. I think
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: that I think that that's a great analogy though with
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: the shoe and feeling a little pebble in your shoe
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: at times, I bring that up for this reason. I'm
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: looking around and thinking, Okay, well for for Wu or
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: I mean for Miller, do you think so it's one day,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: which I guess the shoe analogy makes sense, like maybe
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: that it moves enough where that one day makes a difference.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Is there a reason at all to be concerned like that, Like, hey,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: like this could crop up to be a point of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: if we're seeing the diminished velocity, and could this creep
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: up to be a problem for them?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yes, it's a if you look around
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: the people that have chosen not to take it out,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: not to take those loose bodies out, you know a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: lot of them have eventually taken it out. So Edwin
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Diaz had loose spies in his elbow and then you
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: know it was just pitching terribly at the beginning of
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: the season, and was like, yeah, it just hurts.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Hunter Green apparently had the loose spodies in his elbow
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: through the Pennant Race last year for the Reds, pitched
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: through some pain, you know, through the end of the season,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: thought that rest and rehab over the offseason would work.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Got into spring, was like, no, I still feel it
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: still hurts. So and then he went under the surgery
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and just came back a couple of weeks ago. So
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: it seems to me like something where you know, the
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: doctor says it's a pain talents thing, it's not gonna
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: make it worse. Who is not to have the surgery?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: And generally you want to avoid surgeries because surgery itself,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: you know, has a has a recovery component, right, like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: it may not work and your body you you you've
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: we've cut into the body, so the body has to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: heal around that incision. So generally I get why people
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: avoid surgery, But it seems to me a little bit
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: of a matter of when, not if, When when you've
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: got this thing that's that's hurting you, that's that's flowing around.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's maybe that's why you keep Louise
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Castiel and maybe that's why you have the six man rotation,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: because they've been knocked out. What about the young guys,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: you guys, I thought you were going to say that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: the four letter word up here that's called piggyback. But no,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't do that either. But yeah, no,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: like we're rying sloaning. That's I mean, that's a fun
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: thing though, because like we're all excited about these That's
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: the great thing about prospects, right, You're always excited aout him.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: You want to see him up here. It's it's the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback syndrome for seams, right, Like you want to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: see the backup quarterback until you don't want to see
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: the backup quarterback. I take it back, yet, I'm not
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: sure if I want to see the backup quarterback right now.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see that guy a reason he's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: the backup. But you know what I mean, look thing,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Sorry. One thing that occurred to me about these Mariners though,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: that I hadn't really noticed, was they've not been good defensively.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Their numbers, their numbers for the year are bottom two,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: bottom five, depending on where you look. And that is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: an interesting thing when you think about them trying to
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: acquire right handed bat like, it doesn't. It's not only
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: a right handed bat that they want, it's a right
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: handed bat that helps them defensively at least an upgrade somewhere.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Now they've done some things like moving Crawford a third,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: so that mean that theoretically he's a better defender there
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: than he's a short. Cult's been sort of neutral, which
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: is a positive at least compared to where Crawford had been.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: Young is actually playing pretty well by the metrics defensively,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: so you know, but the problem is that like, oh, well,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: what about the right handed bad being like Roblest playing
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: him in center over over Rodrick, like moving Julio off
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: of But then when you move Julio off then you're
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: count You're you're cutting Luke Raley out of the out
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: of the lineup, which he's been mostly a positive with
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: the bat. So there's a little bit of a crowd
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: happening where you're like, oh, do we do we focus
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: on the defense or do we focus on the offense?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: And how do we clean this up a little bit?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: And what and how was Brandon Donovan Fitt into all this?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Well, is he ever going to be healthy be the question, right,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's these these sounds like maybe they'll activate
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: them this weekend, I would say, And is that right?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: They may bring him back. He play right now, so yeah,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: he went he was an Everett and now he's now
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: he's in Tacoma, so maybe they'll activate him this weekend.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Who knows. I mean, I just don't think he can
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: count on that guy to be healthy.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: He hasn't been healthy question as well. He's been scratched
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: from his last start in Tacoma. So all we well,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: there you gory Michael Royal, I get yeah.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Michael Royal. Yeah see you know you want to prospect
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Michael o'royal may be coming up. Huh there you go.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, you know, uh, Brandon Donvan's uh defensively, uh
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: for his career has been better on the infield. So
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: that's a that's a that's an interesting thing to think
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: about too, Like he hasn't been the best out their
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: can zone is just not is not not a good outfielder.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Not great, right Andrews not?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 9: No, Yeah, he's best as a d H, which the
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 9: Mariners have like six of those players.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: So yeah, well.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: You can't take that bad out you can't take You
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: can't take ken zones.
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  Speaker 10: Out of the lineup.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Those two homers against the Dodgers against lefty. You can't
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: even maybe take him out of the lineup on left
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: he day.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I know people are losing their mind after that. Oh see,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the analytics don't make sense. You should have been hitting
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: the lefties all the time. Blah blaver. They put them
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: back in fine. I got to ask you about cal
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Rawly again. He hits the home run the other night,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: We're all excited. It's like, you know, one home run
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: every two weeks, and we think maybe he started around
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: and he drops another zero for three last night. Is
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: there a legitimate concern? Is is this just who we're
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: gonna live with the rest of the season. Is there
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: any indication this guy could get on a tear?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I've talked a little bit about, you know,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: his contact point and howe you know, he's way out
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: in front and that can be finicky. That's one point.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: A point in his favor in terms of figuring it out,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: is that you know, people look at you know, walk
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: rate and strikeout rate to do play discipline, but I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: prefer looking at how often you swing at balls? And
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: how often you swing at strikes, and the difference between
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: those two numbers is remarkably remarkably tight and similar year
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: to year, and for his career it's been basically forty
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: percent every year, and forty percent is near elead this year,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: it is not this year, it's around thirty percent. And
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: I went and looked at players that were similar. I
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: was doing it for Vladimir Gerw Junior because he's also
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: really struggling, and I found that it was basically something
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: like sixty two out of seventy players that had this
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: kind of a first half where their their plate discipline
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: was that wonky reverted to their regular plate discipline in
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: the second half. So this is a really powerful thing
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: right now. I would say he just needs to be
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: a little bit more aggressive in the zone. If he
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: focuses on that, I think things will kind of come
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: into and coming to focus for him. He just did
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: not swing it pitches in the zone and he's swinging
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: pitches outside the zone. But it's it's something that should correct.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: It's something that's, like I would say, is innate to
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: a player. I think you can do very little to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: affect that, and it has a lot to do with
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: your outcomes, because you think about it, you hit the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: ball that's outside the own. Your outcomes are not.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: That great, makes sense?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: You walk or you you you you strike out or
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: you you hit a poor, poor they head ball.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: You know, final thing for you? Why can't Houston go away?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: What's what's what? Why are they bothering us here?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 9: I've tried to do it three years where I said
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 9: this is the year they die, and they never did.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what we thought, like a month ago,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I could. Why won't they go away? You know? What
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: the hell's going on here?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Peter Lambert, Renel Blanco, You know, like they just they
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: always have like some picture that shows up and you're like,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't be this good?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: What is going on?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: God?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: I think I do. Still, I'm still sticking by my
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: guns that that like every year it's not quite as
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: good as the year before.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've creeped up back to five hundred. They've won
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: three in a row. I mean they're they're they got Texas,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: uh coming up next, that's tomorrow, So they've got a
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: day off tonight them have a chance to gain a
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: half game on both those teams. You know, tell us
• 1:13:54
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• 1:13:57
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  Speaker 3: It's really fun. We do like player breakdowns, we do,
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  Speaker 3: you know, strategy breakdowns. We talked about trying to find
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: the statistical value of hit tool this week, and H
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: and we and we delve into these these playoff races
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: all the time. So we will be talking about the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: best playoff race of the best divisional race in baseball,
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  Speaker 3: the American League West.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Also known as a pillow fight. But yes, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, also known as a pillow fight.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what it is, you know, Grace, Steph. We'll
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  Speaker 3: We're here every day.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be here at least. Don't know about aybody else
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I should say I'll be here. I can't keep it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I can't keep track of what other people do. And
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I'll know I know this. I will be here tomorrow
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: starting at noon. I'm gonna guess Greg Bell is here.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Not sure about everybody else, but we'll be here all right.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: The we have Mike McDonald on earlier. We'll have that
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: podcast up there. I don't know if it's up there
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: yet or we'll be soon. If it is, wait till
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: after the show.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: Right after the show today, we'll be up yet.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you see and or thank you care about the
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: show on the five. I do appreciate you for that.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: We'll have that. We'll probably replay it tomorrow at some
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: point for people that missed. And Mike McDonald joined us
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: in the new he was great, just a lot of
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: big picture conversations and you know, I just he's It's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: an interesting guy in the sense that when he first
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: got here, the answers were short, and you know, they
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: were never terseed.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: But I was gonna mention that Ian I comparing his
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 9: interview on the first day he got hired, or at
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: least the first day that he was available to the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 9: media to this one is a lot different to me, it, you.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: Know, I I he did he did the podium the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: first day. And after he did the podium we were
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: here January February day whatever that was. And in twenty
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: twenty four, and afterwards I went he came into our
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: little side room here that we do a lot of
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: interviews in that we were set up in at the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletics Center. He came in and he talked,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: and he and I did a one on one interview
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: for fifteen twenty minutes, and it was it was good,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Like it was. I enjoyed the conversation, you know, I mean,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: I'd never talked to him, He'd never talk to me
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: or anybody else in the Seattle media for that matter.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: And and you know, we had heard from people in
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Baltimore that's like, hey, like media guys in Baltimore. The
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: big thing. Oh you know, you're not gonna get much
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: out of this guy. He didn't let you know, he
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't talk much. He didn't say much. And he was
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: good that day. He was solid. He's but he's a
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: little buttoned down. The evolution of Mike McDonald. And we
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: didn't have a chance to get into everything with him.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: But and he talked about this the first day of
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: camp this year, last last Saturday when I was out here,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: he was he he was talking about, you know, how
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: much he's changed. And part of how he's changed and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: evolved a little bit is he's the personality is coming
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: out a lot more like you see, a lot more personality.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: You see like he's he has fun. He'll bust guy's
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: balls a little bit, like to Greg the other day,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: you know, when Greg's pressing him on even Warry, asking
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: him five different ways if eman or he's gonna be
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: ready for the home opener or for the opening game,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: and to McDonald's credit, like, you know, well, here's how
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: not to do a press conference. Just go look at
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: anything that the the I think now former police chief
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, Sean Barnes gone, anything he did, or frankly
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: the mayor just anything that's not how do you do
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: a press conference in fact, try to you know, what's
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: the old saying, you get a lot more a lot
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: more sugar than spice or whatever the hell it is,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: honey than honey than whatever. Yeah, Like like McDonald had,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: like he could have easily said to Greg, Greg, I've
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: answered that twice. I'm done. Instead, Greg tried, did a
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: great job, that's what a journalist does, and McDonald was
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: having none of it, but having fun with it. He
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have been that way a couple of years ago. Total,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: he's just he's just grown. I think he's so much
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: more comfortable now. Listen, he can downplay the super Bowl
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: when all he wants, and he did with with you
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: and I. At the end of the day, he knows
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: whether it's just a thing that's now part of your DNA,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: whether it's something that just kind of is in your subconscious.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: He knows he is a Super Bowl champion coaching. So
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: you that gives you juice, Yeah, it's him.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: It's like, Hey, I've justified being hired to this job
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 9: at this.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: It is not a flex, right, it's not a flex
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: it's just but it's it's part of who he is
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: now that's and that's that's a real thing. It's a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: part of who he is, and who he is is
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: a super Bowl winning coach. It's that simple. And he
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: he he had He's always been a confident guy. I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: see just a different, more outgoing guy. And you know
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: he's got the pressure of the world on him. I
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: I think that's the thing that's amazing to me, because
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: all he cares about is winning the next one. Like
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: that's and and that's a lot like you think about it.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, they teams don't go back to back that often.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: There's a reason the NFL sets it up when they don't.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: And everyone the Seahawks are not the favorite to go
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: back to back. They're not the favorite to win their division.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: That would be the LA Rams. So there is some pressure,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: but there's also an under underdog mentality.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: But I.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: But we did not care. No, they did not. But
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: that's I've told people all along. I've told you this
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: since I've been out here and even going back to
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: mini camp. You know, everyone's raving about the Rams and
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: that line right there is how that's what permeates this
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: building true, And I think that's a great thing.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: It's not just talk right this, Like there's so much.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Worry and consternation over the fact there's new ownership coming in,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: like ideally, really, as a fan, all you care about
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: is the football team, right, Like I care about I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: care about the people that work here because I know
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of them. I've known a lot of them
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: for a lot of years. The people that you don't see,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: whether it's the PR staff, the corporate sales staff, the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: partnership staff, the ticket staff. I mean, I know a
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: lot of those people and have known them well because
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: we were with each other for many many years every week,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: So those are the people I care about. But if
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: you're a fan sitting home, all you care about is
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: what goes on between the lines. And what goes on
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: between the lines. Man, Yes, they've got question marks at
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: running back. Maybe they've got questions like every team does.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: But man, you got to feel good if you're a
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Seahawk fan knowing that that dude and John schneiderre in
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: charge and are so from the foreseeable future, Like this
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: thing is in such good shape, whether they went it
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: back to back or not. I mean, who knows, right,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: and so much can happen between injuries and whatever. There's
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: always a team that jumps up out of nowhere, right like,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: there's always that team that all of a sudden turn
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: right turned it, and so who knows what goes on,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: but I just I sit across from that guy. I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: watched John Schneider out there on the practice field and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: the comment he has for this organization, how comfortable he
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: is in his role all these years later. He's a
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: flipping Hall of Famer. These guys are in really good
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: shape for years to come. I mean, if you're a
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawk football fan, you're living in a golden era
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: right now. And we had that before, but it was
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: short lived. It kind of came and went pretty damn quick,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: you know, twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen, it started to diminish
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: and it went downhill pretty quick after that. We're at
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: the very start of this thing right now. And I
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: think because of the way they've structured contracts, because of
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: the personality of the team, there's a little bit of
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: a selflessness attitude here as well. I think this is
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: truly the start of something really fun for the next
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: few years. We'll take a break, come back. Corman Smith
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: joins us.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, if Brian Wu can find a way to
• 1:22:27
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  Speaker 5: But who knows when that will happen?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe tonight, maybe tonight. WNBAS and spending Sandlestorm co owner
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  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield in the NFL said he feels disrespected a
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: little bit after he and the team can not come
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: in an agreement before or on a new contract before.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: It's a post deadline that started training camp. Tony Rommel
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: had an open container of alcohol in his vehicle when
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  Speaker 2: he stopped by police last week, later rested on suspicion
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: of driving into the influence not only a hammer, but
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: you're drinking while you're driving with an open container. I mean, listen,
• 1:23:18
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• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: What with CBS next to that? I know this. Two
• 1:23:27
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 10: There's not much else going on here though.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: It's it's this is it, man, This is it. The
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: last two men standing, the grounds crews out there working
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: on the field. I need to bring Greg out there
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: and show them all the dirt spots from just practice
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: and ask him again if it makes sense to have
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: grass fields at living But that's fine. We are getting
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: ready for practice tomorrow. But we're done early today because
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: they practiced at nine forty five to eleven fifty five
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: this morning, first practice in pads. Here the Virginia Mason
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Athletics Center got a think about this, Corbett. A week ago,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: we were still doing our previews on the radio. You
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: were doing previews and player rankings on Emerald City Spectrum,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: and man, here we are six days later. We're well
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: into training camp. Man, the grind is underway. Huh. It'll
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: be week one before you know it. It's it's crazy,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: all right. Today was day one in Pats holiday.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 10: So what you learned, well, it was it's always interested
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 10: the first day of pads to see how the guys
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 10: in the trenches respond because this is really the first
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 10: chance for the offensive a defensive lineman to show what
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: they can do. I mean, let's be honest, OTA's in
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 10: mini camp. There's just there's not much you can glean
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 10: from that for offensive and defensive lineman. You can look
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 10: at athleticism things like that, but you want to see
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 10: these guys get their hands on somebody across the line
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 10: of scrimmage, and you want to see who's going to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 10: be the better man. I'll tell you what the most
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 10: impressive thing that I saw all day today one on ones,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 10: which is still my favorite thing at training camp. One
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 10: on one's offensive defensive linemen. They usually do two reps
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 10: with a set of players. You don't see a third
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 10: rep very often a best of three, but we had
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 10: one today Anthony Bradford against Riley Mills, and every single
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 10: one of those reps, all three of them were tightly
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 10: contested down to the wire, physical who's gonna be the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 10: better man type battles, and that's why John on Ben's like,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 10: we gotta have another one. We gotta have round three.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: And Riley Mills got the last laugh there, but man
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 10: Bradford fought him.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: It was second one.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 10: Mills spun away and it looked like he was gonna
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 10: get right into the backfield and Bradford did a phenomenal
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 10: job recovering and getting back and stopping him. It was
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 10: just every reporter over there was just like WHOA Like
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 10: this was pot get your popcorn ready. One on ones.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Seahawk fans just just settle in because Bradford's your right guard.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna, like, I know, we're not supposed to
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: talk about depth charts and rotations. I'm just I don't
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: think we're I.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 10: Don't think they care about that one because it's he's
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 10: he's the guy.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: He's the guy. Like there's like everyone, you know, the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: push to push to push to get this guy out
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: of that right guard position. It's not happening. It's just
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: not it's not gonna happen. And you know, you know what,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: credit Anthony Bradford for that. Like he's not allowing it
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: to happen. There's no Bo Stevens, there's no Christian Haynes
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: that's gonna push this dude. Mason Richmond doesn't matter, Cable
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: D And I'm like, this is this is the right
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: guard and I kind of like it from this standpoint.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: That's good. Then this guy's worked on his game, he
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: worked on his craft in the offseason. Good for him.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 10: Mike McDonald I asked him about Bradford today after practice,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 10: and the thing that he said, what you can account
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 10: for with him is work ethic and attitude.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: And I think you know, when you look at.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 10: The early part of his career, there were some murmurs about,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 10: you know, does this guy have the work ethic? He
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 10: has got it now and the work he did with
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 10: Duke many Weather, who I think might be the best
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 10: offensive line coach out there that these guys can work with.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 10: He worked within this offseason and you can tell, you
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 10: can see it. And they've got these stones out here,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 10: like there's probably a ton way a ton of piece.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 10: Like I thought he was gonna pick one of those
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 10: up off the ground with a sled yesterday, days ago.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: The way it is, it just is, it's just different,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: all right. So pads go on as well. It's the
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: first opportunity to see the running backs with pads on,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: and there's no true tackling, but there is contact and
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: you do have an ability to see a little bit
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: more of Hey, was there a hole there? Did the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: guy hit the read? Did he see it correctly? How's
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: his vision? And everything to hear about Jadari and Price
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: is those are his strengths, right, the vision and you know,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: the ability to find that hole and all those things.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: What do we see from the first round draft pick.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 10: He didn't have a lot to work with today when
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 10: when he got his carries, there was a couple of
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 10: times where we made some nice reads to cut and
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 10: bounce outside and took advantage of not having contained from
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 10: the defense. He also got popped a few times, which
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 10: is gonna happen, and look, it's good for the running
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 10: backs to have that happen. They got to get ready
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 10: for the season. But Manuel Wilson had a couple of
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 10: big runs today that got opened up with some road
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 10: room in front of him.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: We got to see is that against the twos?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 10: Then those I think all of them were against the twos,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 10: and Jaccardi Wright had a couple of nice runs, and look,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: Jaccardi Wright is a guy that just shows up. He
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 10: just does and I'm eager to see him in the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 10: preseason games again.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: But we didn't get to.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 10: See a lot in terms of space to run today.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 10: The defense had something to say about that. But we
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 10: did get to see the running backs catch a bunch
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 10: of passes again, and that just continues to be the
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 10: trend we're seeing here early in camp. And it's not
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 10: just dump offs, like, it's not just oh, nobody's getting
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 10: open downfield, like there is a clear purpose to getting
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: the football into the running backs hands in the passing game.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Jacardi writes, an interesting cat, isn't he Mike. We've talked
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: about him a lot. I I he's a Mike McDonald guy.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: He really is, right, that's I think that's I think
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: that's what it is. I think that's I think that's
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: a good way to put it. He's a Mike McDonald guy.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: No nonsense. I'm gonna go do what I need to do.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna work hard at every facet of
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: my game. He's selfless, Like.
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  Speaker 10: I just think this team that that's what they've had
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 10: so much success. Like these guys are bought in, they
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 10: are unified in the like Anthony Bradford, Like, there's a
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 10: selflessness to it, like I'm gonna go do what I
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: gotta do. And I think Mike McDonald done such a
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: good job of instilling that in this team.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: The yeah, well that we talked to, we had Mike
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: on earlier and you know the whole how connected these
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: guys are. You know what he raved about, which is interesting.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: You were he talked about his first the first practice.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Guys were asking all the injuries, and Zach Charbonney's name
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: got brought up and he talked about Charbonay on McDonald
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: did on Saturday. I asked him about it today when
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: he sat where you're sitting here a couple hours ago,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: and you know, I said, like, because he was just
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: effusive in his praise for charbon Ay, the person, the leader,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: what he means to this football team, you know, not
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: even carrying the football, just in the locker room, everything else.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: And I was like, man, every time we talked to Scharbony,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: very very quiet. I don't want to say reserve, but
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot to say, not boisterous, not a
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: guy that's you know, you think of as a raw,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: raw here we go, in your face type of dude.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: And he talked about his spirit and all those things.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: We askedim about it today and he goes, yeah, this guy,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: he goes, I've watched him in the locker room, like
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: when things he's his best when they aren't going well,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Like he's walking around talking to guys and talking to
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: individuals and doing all these things. It's one of those
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: reasons you're like, I wish Kenneth Walker was here. I
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: just think, as as I want to see these guys
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: play well, and I think he gives you a chance
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: to be a better football team. Kenneth Walker does fourteen
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: million dollars. That's a John Schneider decision. They make that
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: call and move on. But listening to McDonald talk about
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Zach Sharba, I understand now why they like Sharbonay. Like
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: what he brings the table, that a little intangible and
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 10: And you know he talks with his pads too, like
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 10: he's a lead by example kind of guy.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, how when you kind of just look
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: through that room. Jadarian Price won Halani's in the mix,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: especially because the third down and blocking.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 10: I tell you what the past protection drills today.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: And it's funny.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 10: You got to hear Ernest Jones like I want to
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 10: go up against the best.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: He said that, yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 10: And so it was Ernest Jones going up against Hallani
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 10: and Halani's. Halani got him the two times they went
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 10: against each other. He lost a matchup later off the edge.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 10: You're not going to win all of them, but he
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 10: is clearly the best without sharp and amy and healthy,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 10: he is clearly the best pass protecting back.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: And we saw it in the Super Bowl with him
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: picking up blitzes. What do you think Wilson's role is
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: going to be or will there be a role? Right now?
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 10: I would say it's as I've been saying really since
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 10: they signed him. I'd expect that he's going to be
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 10: the short yard age guy. I think that's where he's
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 10: going to fit in. I think Jacardia Wright is going
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 10: to give him a run for his money right now, though.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 10: I think there's a little bit of a competition going
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 10: on there with those two guys for that third spot
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 10: in the running back depth chart. And you're wondering, if
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 10: you know Jakarti Wright them, Yeah, and a man who
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 10: Wilson and I talked to him today Green Bay. They
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 10: didn't ask their running backs to catch the ball very much.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 10: That was not so he's had to make some adjustments
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 10: to that and he says he can do it obviously,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 10: but uh, he's going through some adjustment periods in this
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 10: offense as well. Jakarti Wright caught a bunch of passes
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 10: in college, So I you know, I think Emanuel Wilson's
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 10: going to be the three guy. But I'm telling you
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 10: right now that you know that could be competition is
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 10: starting to brew there a little bit.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I do the defense kind of win the day today. Yeah,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: this felt like it was interesting.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 10: I don't remember anybody scoring a touchdown today, but I
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 10: think a lot of that was by you know, they
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 10: didn't do any red zone work today. There was a
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 10: lot of situational stuff in the middle of the field
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 10: or long field yet some of the one on ones.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 10: There was a lot of individual and position group drills,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 10: which is typical for a first pad of day as well.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: Corbus Spitz joining as Ceneral City Spectrum Emerald City Spectrum
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: dot Com. I talked to Anthony Bell. We played that
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: interview yesterday. What a delight. I mean, Oh, he's fantastic,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: what a great story and everything else. How important is
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: he this football team?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 10: I think he's another guy like they you know, they
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 10: obviously won the Super Bowl without him, but like that
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 10: felt like one of those spirit losses when he got
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 10: picked up off, you know, and it's unfortunate that the
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 10: Seahawks got in that position where they had to. You know,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 10: there are some really good players that kind of are
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 10: that fringe that you know, come on and off the roster,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 10: and he's he fell into that line in part because
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 10: all the safety talent does the Seahawks have, but he's
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 10: he is another guy that you just look at the story,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 10: guys rally around players like that, and I do need
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 10: to look at Emmanuel Wilson. I mean he played in
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 10: two D Dude schools, Like he's another guy that kind
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 10: of fits that Mike McDonald's mentality, Like I had adversity,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 10: but look at me.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: I got to the NFL. Yeah, as a high school coach,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: a student assistant, not even a grad assistant, a student assistant,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: then a graduate assistant. I mean McDonald's. McDonald's road to
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: the NFL was anything but easy. And I'm sure he
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: appreciates guys like that too. I always think when it
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: comes down to those types of things, it's probably you know,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: if everything else is a tie, that might be the tiebreaker,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: right like like whether it be character of the story
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: where he came from a little little extra hunger or whatever,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: that might be the tiebreaker along the way. Quarterback wise,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: we know what's going on there. Anything jump out at
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: you today with those guys, Yeah, you know.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 10: Today was a tougher day to have evaluate that again
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 10: just because of the situation they had. Like Jalen Milroe
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 10: really jumped out in the practice on Tuesday. About him, Yeah,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 10: that was the best I've seen him look for an
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 10: entire practice today. There were a handful of throws. Sam
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 10: Darnold had a really nice throw to Cooper Cup. I
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 10: will say this right.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: Now, going on a tangent, let's talk about Cooper Cup.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: So be shocked.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 10: Cooper Cup looks like he was. I think he was
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: good last year. He just didn't get a lot of opportunities.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 10: I don't think he's lost that much of a step.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 10: I think he's still a very effective player. I think
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 10: this iteration of the Shanahan offense, he's gonna cater more
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 10: to what he does. I would not be shocked. Don't
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 10: be shocked if he goes out and catches sixty or
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 10: seventy balls.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 7: Ye.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: Mike Benton asked me earlier. He's doing a thing for
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: for I don't know if it's our website or something
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: like that, but he we were doing a little quick,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: little video hit and he said, does Sam Donald throw
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: for more yards than last year? Yes or no? And
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: I said, I said, I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: say yes. For a couple of weears. One is the
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: fact that they don't have Ken Walker, so probably your
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: lead running backs to rookie and it's might take a
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: little bit of time and Charbonay's out, Like so you're
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: one and two from last year aren't here, So you're
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: making change in the running back position. I know you
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: want to run the football and all those things. And
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: Jennarian Price could be a he could be really good,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: who knows. But on top of that, I think he
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: throws from more yards for two reasons. As of right now,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Tory Horton is healthy. As of right now, Rashidi, he's
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: more part of the offense. And as of right now,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup as you just said, looks sprys. He a
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: spry right he Yeah.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 10: I thought he had a good camp last year, but
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 10: it's just something is different this year, like it. And
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 10: we see that sometimes with veteran players that like are
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 10: in their tenth eleventh year, where this.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: Guy wants another ring. Yeah, he wants another ring. His
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: legacy is secure, he's going to the Hall of Fame,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: but he wants another ring. He wants another ring.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and he is really happy being back in his
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 10: home state. Like I think he he's in his element.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 10: But I think this offense, he made a hell of
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 10: a catch today where he was looking like he was
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 10: blocking and sold it and then came across the middle
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 10: there was no defender within fifteen yards of him and
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 10: picked up big yardage. I just I think he's such
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 10: a savvy player in this offense fits him so well.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Do you watch him ever and just go wow, Like
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: just the little things that he does and things that
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: he does, or how he sees the game he talked
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: about he talked to the podium in the day about
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: you know, being a leader kind of coach on the field,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: things like that.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 10: I think it depends on what he wants to do,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 10: but I think he has a future as an offensive
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 10: coordinator in this league. I think Cooper cup could be
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 10: a really good offensive coordinator.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: He is a die hard. He is one of my
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: favorite interviews for that reason.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 10: You know how I am with X to Know's He's
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 10: one of the guys that really opens up on that
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 10: stuff and I love it. I just think he and
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 10: maybe my favorite thing about him is his blocking, like
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 10: as a as a film nerd, Like when I turn
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 10: on the film and it used to be he's watching
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 10: with the rams, Like, look, I know he's not in
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks, but like, good God, look at this block
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 10: that he's just made it to the outside. Like he
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 10: has been one of the best, if not the best
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 10: run blockers as a receiver in the league for a decade.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 10: And again it's a Mike McDonald guy. He does all
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 10: the little things right, He's a detail oriented guy.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're any of those receivers, you're not blocking,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna be here, like.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 10: Especially with I think with Brian Flurry, it's even more so, like, uh,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 10: which is why you know Jake Bobo's banged up right now,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 10: But I think Jake Bobo's got a chance to do
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 10: some things to this offense.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Well what do you see from the Flurry offense that
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: jumps out?
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 10: Well, the first thing is the running backs, Like, and
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 10: this is crazy, Seattle was thirty first in targets to
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 10: running backs in the passing game last year. Like it
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 10: just was like it was not a part of their
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 10: passing game most of the year. You've been watching some
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 10: of the practice out here, like they are force feeding
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 10: jennari in Price and George Hallani and Jacarti. You're right,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 10: like those guys are getting a lot of touches and
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 10: it doesn't feel like I said they're force feeding him,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 10: but it doesn't. It's really not that.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: I think. I think according to that cap, we've had
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: that conversation a little bit with with with with that
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: part of the game, and it's like, I think we
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: saw that a little bit in mini camp in June,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: and then we've seen it, you know through the first
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: what are we won? Two four five practices in uh boy,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: they're throwing the this is this is the the everyone's
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: standing on the sideline watching together and like, yeah, they're
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: throwing a lot of balls. Their force being they're trying
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: to see if Jordari and Price can catch it. I
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: don't think that's what it is.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 10: I think it's I think that's what this offense is
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 10: gonna think San Francisco was first.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. It's not testing the rookie. It's
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 10: And and I think, you know, and Leonard Williams, Leonard
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 10: Williams is the other one that when we interview him,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 10: me being the nerd that I am, like he's another
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 10: one that he starts talking about pre snap motion and
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 10: how it changes gap responsibilities and like I just I'm
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 10: just on cloud nine but he was talking about the
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 10: there's more motion from full backs, which that's the other thing.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 10: You're gonna see more of the two back personnel in
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 10: this offense, even than what Kubiak did last year. Less
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 10: of the thirteen with three tight ends, and you're gonna
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 10: see more of the two running backs in the field.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 10: Robbie Ootz and Brady Russell are both gonna play snatch
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 10: there and they're gonnam And you motion a guy out
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 10: of the out of the fullback into the into the
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 10: tight end spot like you just created another gap and
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 10: it creates all kinds of problems for most defenses in
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 10: the NFL. What are you write now, Well, that's gonna
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 10: be one of the things I'm gonna be writing on
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 10: the running back situation. As far as in the passing game,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 10: I thought Sam Darnold gave a really nice, insightful answer
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 10: on that today And and like he said, he gotta
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 10: hit it at like this is not this is not
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 10: like we're just throwing it to him just to throw
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 10: it to him. Like this is gonna be a much
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 10: bigger part of their offense this year, and it could
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 10: open up some of that stuff behind. If you're worried
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 10: about Yeah, jadariing Price could kill us out there on
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 10: the outside, or George Hallani who can run from the slot, Like, oh,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 10: what are we gonna do if he starts hurting us?
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 10: You have to start sucking guys up. So I'm gonna
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 10: be writing a lengthy piece about that and some other takeaways.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: You know what, Swallas, I just kept thinking, you bring
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: it in a former tight ends coaches, your offensive coordinator.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: I just thought that the natural thought would be they're
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: gonna throw the tight ends more.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 10: I don't know that that's what I mean. They might
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 10: get a few more targets. I mean, Elijah Royals looks
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 10: pretty good here this first week, and so maybe he's
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 10: the one that benefits a lot from that. But but
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 10: I think you're seeing more like Kyle Shanahan loves throwing
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 10: to his running backs. Christian McCaffrey is a huge part
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 10: of that. But even when McCaffrey was banged up, they
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 10: were still throwing the ball out to their running backs.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 10: I think Brian Fleury's he subscribes more to that than
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 10: what Clint Kobiak did.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: Robbie Oots is a very big man, more part of
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: the offense. More snaps this year I mean that we
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: you know what they do with Kyle Uscheck.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 10: I'm fascinating to see what they do there ian because
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 10: Brandy Russell, I'm not saying he's Kyle Ustcheck, right, but
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 10: he has the more similar skill set and we've seen
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 10: quite a bit of Number thirty eight in the backfield.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 10: I think we're gonna see both of them because they're
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 10: both good special teams players too. Think they're both on
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 10: this roster. But I'm fascinating to see how that plays
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 10: out as the year goes, because if if Russell catches
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 10: some balls out of the backfield and does some of
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 10: the movement stuff, that that could turn into him being
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 10: the one that gets more.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: Snaps there potentially. I think that's a fascinating one. All right,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Corbus Smith, Emerald City Spectrum. Let's get some subscribers out there.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: If you like local journalism that talks about your teams
• 1:42:24
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• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: got it covered. What do we do?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we've got We've got Mariner's coverage up today. I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 10: know they're not winning very many games, but still we've
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 10: got we've got great Mariner's coverage. We've got some new
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 10: crack and stuff that's gonna be up soon. My takeaways
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 10: for the Seahawks. I've got an article about Jadavian Cloudy.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 10: It's it's almost August. Every year we talk about the
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 10: Seahawks gonna bring him back. I think they are this time.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: I do well. There's a tease that we'll see if
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: it happened.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 10: I mean, I there's a history here Ian. Look at
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 10: Noah Igbanoghany, look at Dante Fowler Junior. Those guys were
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 10: coveted last year and Seattle didn't get them. They went
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 10: back this year and got him. Clowney had maybe his
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 10: best year as a pro in Baltimore a few years
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 10: ago with Mike McDonald. It all really boils down to
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 10: the money and does he want to does he want
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 10: to play here again? I'm interested to see if that happens, though.
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  Speaker 2: God Clowny back, that'd be crazy. All right, Emerald City
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  Speaker 2: Let's see five six four area code love Corbin one
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: smart cookie? You think he left? Can you hear me
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: say that? Yeah, let's see. Okay, Wow, there's a lot
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: of storm stuff on here. I'm sorry, Shokeian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: let's see. Yeah. Somebody's telling me that they're in a
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: debate with my son at the bar at Druids Glenn
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: about tomato chutney on a turkey sandwich.
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  Speaker 5: Hmmm, very specific.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: That is really specific. I don't know if I ever
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: had tomato chutney. It's an interesting dynamic. Interesting. I'm more
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: I'm more curious right now than ever been two o
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: six what it's all about?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, now I want to know more.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's see you here a lot of them. Okay,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: it's crazy how he's become roade Brian Wu and home
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu. That's what we have to call him now,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: says the two os.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: And it's like two different pictures, isn't it.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Well, let me see that's thing. It's it's not the
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: numbers and the splits are insane. It's so this is
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: this is the night that you go, well, he's gonna
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: turn it around, right, Yeah, and it gets it like
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: we keep looking for the little thing, the spark that's
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: gonna get you some momentum. Now, listen, who has been
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: he's a say, young candidate. If you just look at
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: his home record, ye, home numbers r yes. So him
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: turning it around with one road win or run good,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: one good road performance. I don't know if that's a
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: bigger picture thing for the baseball team other than the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: fact that okay, now he can I don't know if
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we're ever going to have that
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: moment this year where we have the crew like oh wow,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: that was the catalyst. Yeah, because every time we think
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: we're gonna every time we think we see it, yeah,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: we don't. Right, they just need to start playing better baseball.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 9: I know it's such a general statement to say, and
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: it's almost as you know, obvious as saying your stars
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 9: need to play better, right, but it's just true, like
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: there's nothing they can do that will make this team,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: you know, get to the point where they need to
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 9: be just play better, just play better, and everything would
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 9: like all of this noise would kind of go away.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 9: You go through bad stretches and stuff like that. But yeah,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 9: I don't know. I think also an underrated part you
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: mentioned Brian Wu kind of being a SI young candidate
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 9: at home. What an underrated struggle with the Mariners this year.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 9: Everyone likes to look at their pitching staff, and I
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 9: think overall, their numbers look good, but they don't have
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 9: a guy. They don't have a guy where if you're
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 9: in a bad slump, you're in a bad rut, no
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 9: matter how poorly your offense is playing you, you're like,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 9: all right, doesn't matter. All we need is one run
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 9: and we're gonna get the win today because this guy
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 9: is that dominant. He's gonna shut down the other team.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 9: There's no Felix Hernandez in this staff. And I felt
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 9: like that could have been the case with the Logan
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 9: Gilbert a couple of years ago. That could have been
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 9: a case of the Brian Wu last year. None of
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 9: those guys have stepped up this year to be that guy.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, correct in regard a lot of people very enjoyed
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: the Mike McDonald interview, So I thank you for that. Yeah,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: I think it was great to have a chance to
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: sit down and talk to the coach. I was tremendous.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: This is from the two six. A couple of buddies
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: and I won an auction at Seattle's Bourbon Bonanza. Back
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: to that in a second for a round at Aldera
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: with a member who offered it. Played last month. Parked
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: the car. We're walking in and coaches right behind us.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: I hold the door and say super Bowl Champs first.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: He smiled and walked in. He's a big golfer man.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: I knew he liked to play. I get he's talking
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: about he played a lot this year. How god, what
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: a nightmare. Though many like the Tahoe events, like everyone
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: there is single digit handicapped. The celebrities are at least right,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: they're all they're all like really good players, single digit dudes.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: So like, you're not ever if you're in that world
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: of golf, you're not ever worried about topping the drawing.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: You might, you might slice it. You can live with that.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: If you hammer it, but it slices or or whatever.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: You got a little hook, that's okay. Topping it, that's
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: like your worst fear. Yeah, oh my god, I'd just
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: be I'd be petrified. I mean, like I get first
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: treat anxiety with like another group waiting with us. Like
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: even ends right.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 9: Good for Mike for you know, having the whereithal tell
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 9: that story. You know, that's so a little humility, doesn't it?
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: He also, I've seen his swing.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: He's got an elite he can swing it.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: He's got an elite swing. And when you add to
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: that the fact he's never missed arm day, I'm sure
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: he kills it.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: Take spiceps in the league.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, this dude is this dude is yoke easy.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: He's very much yoked.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: I told my wife Taga, Yeah, we're interviewing Mike McDonald's.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: She goes, oh, is he the coach with the big arms.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Then I had to point out to her that he's
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: also super Bowl champion. You know.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 5: He's like, oh yeah, yeah, okay, that guy, right.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: That guy, that guy, that guy. Oh let's see what
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: else we got four nine four five one.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: Like Mike said after the super Bowl, valiated his process
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: and how he ran things. I think it's easier to
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: just be loose to yourself and you know your process.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: Has been successful. Yeah, I think that's part of like
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: his his nature now. But I don't think he ever
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: doubted his process, you know, in that sense. I think
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: he's always had great I don't I want to say
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: it great confidence in that regard and rightfully so he's
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: done such a terrific you know, but but that's it. Uh, Hey,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: what about aar Old Donald coming back and playing for
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: the Rams? Impact or not?
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, you can't say it's not an impact if
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: that ends up happening.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, it hasn't happened. I am a little curious
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 9: as to why. If it was going to happen, I
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 9: feel like it would have happened by now.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: No, No, he's a veteran. You don't want to go
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: to camp fair. You don't want to go to camp.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: Three years out of the league too, Like, I don't know,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 5: you got that kind of get.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: At that that dude is going to show up if
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: he plays, he'll show up whenever, and like he'll he'll
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: he'll be just.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 8: Ready to go in.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: I have my doubts.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: What if they get Beata vea two man?
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: I still how you fit it? Because has got a massive.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: They they find ways to make it work every single time.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: I know it's going to cost them something though, anders
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: like it's gonna cost them somebody else. And I don't know,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: no idea what their contract situation is with guys that
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: they could cut.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 6: The night.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: The money. Well, here's the thing, like the Pooka deal,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a real issue for them. Is like,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: that's a real issue for them. And you know, I
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: go back Lindsay Theory, who covers well, she covers national
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: stuff now for ESPN, but she's covered the RAM.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: He's really good.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's covered the Rams since they moved to LA
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: And you know, she was always softy. I believe it was.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: And she said, point they they may they're they're waiting
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: to see with this dude, Like I don't know if
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: they don't know if they I mean really, the the
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: insinuation is they don't know if they can trust him.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean that told you yesterday. Dude's a
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: freak man, weirdo like fighting women and stuff like. That's
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: some issues and that would scare me, Like that would
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: scare the daylights out of me, because if you're going
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: to invest that kind of money, especially you know, the
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: guaranteed money and whatever else is going to count against
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: your cap. Even if you did, you know, finds himself
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: in more hot water, it still hurts you.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 9: Speaking of l a Ian, what is the interaction like
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 9: with Benton about Ems and Dodgers and he got bets
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 9: for the rubber match? Loser has to kiss Softy Ryan Scottsdale.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: No one's gonna kiss Softy. No, I don't know.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 5: He's been offully quiet.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: He's been really quiet on our group chat, like really quiet,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: like weirdly quiet. Yeah, so I don't there hasn't really
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: been any I don't.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: Know, waiting until they win today and then he's gonna
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: go balls to the wall.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: No, Mikey's smart enough to know that he's we're not
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: gonna have it, you know, We're just not gonna have
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: it yet. Sure, so if they if they, if Roade
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu shows up today, I don't think mike he
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: will say anything. Quietly Internally up there Instanaholmis County, in
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: the great City of Everett, where Mikey resides and kind
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: of runs things up there, He'll be just cheering hard
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: inside for the Dodgers. But I don't think he's I
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: don't think he's I don't believe. He's been very quiet
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: and mellowed us so far.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: He's not a dancing on the grave type of guy.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, although he kind of did that last year.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: Not on the grave, but he was dancing around all
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: happy when they won the World Series last year. Yes,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: he did till we all until we all had to
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: point out that we don't well, we don't care Dodgers win. Yeah,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: we did not care. Thank you. That was our that
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: was our thought on that. He's final one to Marcus
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: asked that I missed the beer release date. No, you
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: did not soon. I don't know if you missed it.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it. It's August twenty first. It's August
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: twenty first, Okay, I the one that just came there.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: Now you challenged me, and I'm gonna have to respond.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: August twenty first is August twenty first is the beer
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: release date for the Mayor Maple val Or Mayor i
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: PA out of Georgetown Brewing will be doing the show
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: down there that day. Can't wait a time four to
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: five because there's a bunch of texts in there about
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: the storm ducking the storm controversy. Are we not surprising,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: ducking it. I don't know. I've told you that was embarrassed.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: I said in the headlines, say it again. What she
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: did was embarrassing, not just And I think both sides.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: What the Brandy Cruz led group that had young people
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: holding signs and the small little protests before the game,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: they're looking for a reaction, and then there's people inside
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: the arena that are looking for a fight. I think,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: I think in this particular case, on Tuesday, it was
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: a Tuesday in the Storm game, Yes, Tuesday, right Tuesday
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: at the Storm game. I think you can look at
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: both sides and say be better. But more importantly Storm ownership,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: and they, in all credit, they put the statement out
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: yesterday everyone's to be welcome here and all that. You
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: can't have it both ways, right, You cannot have it
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: both ways. You cannot say, you know, you cannot be
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: out there trumping your that's a bad term, sorry, pumping
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: up your own ideals and political beliefs and thoughts and
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: what you stand for, and then absolutely annihilate anybody who
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: has an opposing.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: View, especially when your whole thing is acceptance.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: Right, you cannot be accepting if you're unaccepting and they're
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: unaccepting of opposing views. You may not like those opposing views,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: but don't say that you're open to all views and
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: everyone's welcome and all that. If they're not, and they
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: were not that day, whether they were there on for
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: the right reasons or wrong reasons, whoever bought the tickets.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I think there's probably a little bit
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: of blame on both sides. But at the end of
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: the day, if you're the owner of a professional sports franchise,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: you cannot behave that way, especially to young people, to teenagers.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: You cannot be behave out the future of your game.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: You're chasing I think this league, more than any league ever,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: chases fans away. They push fans away. Caitlin Clark has
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: been a massive, massive boost of this league financially and
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: every level. They're pushing her away. They're pushing her fans away,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: and by doing that, you're hurting the future of the
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: game because there is no other player that's ever been
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: shown that they can carry the league. We're not saying
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: she's the best player in the league, but she's the
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: only one that has carried the league. So be better, WNBA.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: I have zero faith you will be none whatsoever that
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: makes you happy for too fun. All right, we'll check
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: in with soft the nest. I can't hear you.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: Are you there?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: You got the Blue Angels in the background. Hear me?
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: Hello talking to me the blue I got the Blue Angels?
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 11: You know, my son, I don't blame you for being surprised,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 11: because apparently the idea that the blue Angels make a
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 11: lot of noise is a new revelation for a lot
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 11: of people in these parts.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 8: God, I saw a tweet.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 11: I don't know if the time, I mean, there was
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 11: a billboard down there on Rainier was it last year
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 11: or two years ago?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: Want?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 11: They want to get rid of them? And I can
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 11: hear him now. I love that sound. I think it
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 11: sounds awesome.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: It's the sound of summer in Seattle. Yeah.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 8: Hell, it's abso frecolutely man.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: But we need that this week.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 11: I saw a tweet. I saw tweet from Como, our
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 11: friends over at Como. And you know, I don't know
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 11: how they do things over the area. You know, It's
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 11: like writers always get mad when you blame you know, headlines.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 11: I didn't write that. Okay, Well, whatever, it's got your
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 11: name on it, so blah blah blah. Right, but you know,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 11: headline was like, you know, the Blue Angels will bring
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 11: you know, increased noise, and I was like, thanks sign
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 11: stuff right, like the sunset, the sun setting might increase
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 11: in darkness.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, like, what are we talking about here?
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 11: When a range it gets wet well, and you know what, Like,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 11: I'll admit my dogs hate it. My dogs hate the
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 11: fourth of July. My dogs hate the Blue Angels. But
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 11: you know, I'm not that arrogant to think that the
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 11: world should revolve around me and my pets. Okay, yeah,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 11: I mean like what the hell, guys, come on, figure
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 11: it out for a couple hours a day over a
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 11: three day period. Figure it out, all right, Go get
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 11: some treasone from grandma's closet and feed it to your dog.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: It's fine. People that live, you know, in Mercer Island
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: and or you know the Rainier Beach area where the
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: Blue Angels are flying over that complain about noise with
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: the Blue Angels. They've been coming here since what the sixties,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: you know, correct, right, So like pretty good chance you
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: bought your house after that. It's like the folks, Oh,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: it's like honestly, it's like those the snobs out of Laurelhurst.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: I can't believe that there's a helicopter landing at the
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: children's hospital. Oh, I don't know. You bought a house
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: next to children's hospital. You do.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 11: That's now been rectified apparently, Okay, I think that's a
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 11: that's an example of bad publicity is good publicity because
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 11: it made him change their mind on that. But I'm
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 11: with you, man, it's just I don't know, man, it's.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: A mound of summer. It's a sound of summer.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 11: People have just become so dramatic and so freaking soft
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 11: around these parts.
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  Speaker 8: That just drives me up a damn wall.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I feel like I'm not so like
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: a golden.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 8: Cranky though at the same time, so it's a bad combination.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm softy, I'm doing a show. Here's
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: nobody around.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, welcome to my world.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 11: Man, You know how depressing that is to look up
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 11: and see nobody giving a damn on a daily basis.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: It's hard.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: Guys are out here doing fertilizers.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 8: Look at me, have they mowed the LAWNA?
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 11: They come with an inches of your face with their
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 11: giant propeller lawnmowers.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 8: No, all right, because that happened two days ago.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: Right now they're spraying what looks to be some sort
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: of fertilizer, and.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 11: Watch out for that because when the wind picks up
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 11: and gets in your eye and it stings badly.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: He's actually been very great.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 8: Look out.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: Ok, I'm good.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 8: You got a left over mask from COVID in the
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 8: bag or whatever, put it on.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: Put it on you.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, do you have any of those? By the way, now,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: I found one in a drawer like in the and
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: I felt like a couple and I just immediately threw
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: them out, like I never want to see this thing again.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 11: First of all, for first of all, they're nasty, Yeah,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 11: because I got all your saliva inside of them.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, food left over from whatever you were
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 8: eating that day.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: I think I found a pizza in there. Yeah.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 8: And then second of all, if you do need more masks,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 8: then you know, you buy a mask.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: Hell, let's hope we never Jesus. This actually feels like
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty training camp when like there's on the top
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: of the burm. Yeah yeah, kind of no radio, just
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: stand on the berm and watch practice. Yeah, all right,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: I'm that up all right, lifting uplifting. Nobody got today.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 8: We got a new sports gambling expert on the show
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 8: with us.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 8: Paige Becker is coming on today, by the way, shanging her.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 4: Thoughts on.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 12: They're so good, you're so went to play the rim
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 12: shot put my walls so good? Come on, Andrews, Page Bickers,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 12: and Angel Reese will join us and share their thoughts
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 12: on the Mariners plus one eighty tonight.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 11: Against So we got a pitching problem all of a sudden,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 11: big guy in Seattle.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: Not tonight, you got Brian wo on the mount, Sir
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: Brian on.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 8: The road, the road unbelievable. I'm calling it right now.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 11: This is the night Brian wu he shoves mows them
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 11: down for the first time all year.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 8: He shows up on the road and he shoves it up.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: Show.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 11: Hey, Otani's gambling ass coming up tonight. That's seven to
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 11: ten from Dodger Stadium.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: Andrews clipped that we'll use it tomorrow and cross talk.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: All right, what else besides that, besides Paige, Angel and.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 11: Jack Fish tonight on the show, you're gonna hear from
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 11: Petros So he wasn't on yesterday. He'll be on today
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 11: Brett Boone will join us at four o'clock. Is well
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 11: a lot to get to between now and seven o'clock.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: There come the Blue Angels, and they come.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 12: They're loud in your ears for the mild mannered and
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 12: marginally objectionable Inverness, this is paddle day, saying so long everyone,