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7-2: Team USA! Anders Hirst and Steve Phillips · The Gregg Bell Show

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Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentals Sports Test your ninety three
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Speaker 1: point three kJ R FM sports headline.
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Speaker 2: Conad of the demon, I'm a demon, Nick Toda, No sobody.
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Speaker 3: Demon incomparable Andres contour on tele Mondo last night. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that was the second minute Malik Timo with the US
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Speaker 3: down a man and we'll talk a lot about that
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Speaker 3: low Valligan and what that means going forward. But down
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Speaker 3: a man, up one nill they get the goal with
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Speaker 3: a strike that went through the keeper up or left
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Speaker 3: from Malik Tillman Andre's contour on the Call to Nothing.
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Speaker 3: The United States bes Bosnia host Corvina. That's only the
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Speaker 3: second time ever the United States has won a knockout
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Speaker 3: round match. I know it's knockout rounds is now a
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Speaker 3: round of thirty two is an extra knockout round in
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Speaker 3: this expanded forty eighteen World Cup. But the United States
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Speaker 3: moves on to play Monday against Belgium in Seattle in
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Speaker 3: the round of sixteen. It's a five pm start. I'll
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Speaker 3: be there. I'll be in the stadium. I've been for
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Speaker 3: all the other of the first five. Let's go great,
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Speaker 3: it's been great.
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Speaker 4: Oh I'm excited, are you?
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Speaker 5: I know you're working, but still there's got to be
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Speaker 5: some excitement there, Jessman.
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Speaker 3: It it will be the greatest sporting event in Seattle history.
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Speaker 3: I'm not that's not hyperbole. There'll be hundreds of millions
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Speaker 3: of people watch. I've been in the stadium for every
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Speaker 3: one of the NFC Championship Games. This will be better
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Speaker 3: than that because of the global reach of this. We'll
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Speaker 3: talk about that during the show too. The Belgians. I
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Speaker 3: was in the stadium yesterday for that, another sold out
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Speaker 3: crowd yesterday afternoon for Belgium and Senegal. Senegal absolutely dominated
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Speaker 3: them for the first eighty five minutes. Then Remelo Locaku scored.
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Speaker 3: Two minutes later, Captain Yori Tevaman scored even the match,
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Speaker 3: send it to extra time. And then this happened in
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Speaker 3: the one hundred and seventeenth minute, and.
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Speaker 6: Yo, wom holistic hook, call your penalty.
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Speaker 3: Benetopin in days it falls of on the meds today. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: we're in the Benetton portion of the show. I love it.
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Speaker 4: It's what the World Cup is all about.
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Speaker 3: Is exactly what the world That's what it was like
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Speaker 3: yesterday in the press box there were Belgians high five
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Speaker 3: in each.
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Speaker 4: Other after that, I thank you kind of got I
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Speaker 4: read that point.
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Speaker 3: Well, unlike the United States, the press boxes for the
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Speaker 3: World Cup, they are outright celebrating and cheering and dudes
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Speaker 3: wearing team gear.
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Speaker 4: Oh how fun is that?
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Speaker 3: And then in the mix zone they're wearing team gear
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Speaker 3: interviewing these guys in high five of them. It's just
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Speaker 3: it's not anything I'm used to. That was telem As,
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Speaker 3: the captain of the team. That was another disputed var
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Speaker 3: intervention that cost Senegal that penalty kick against them in
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Speaker 3: the one hundred and seventeenth minute, and that's why they're
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Speaker 3: playing the US on Monday, Warldworld Cup drama. Mighty England
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Speaker 3: trailed Congo Tiny Congo deep into the second half in Atlanta,
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Speaker 3: then two goals late by Harry Kane. They probably knighted
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Speaker 3: him after the game. They rescued the three Lions in
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Speaker 3: a two to one win. That means England Mexico in
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Speaker 3: Mexico City Sunday at five pm and Estadios Tech. That's
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Speaker 3: going to be crazy. This World Cup is really really
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Speaker 3: something else awesome would have to like soccer, and it's here,
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Speaker 3: It's right in our backyard.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I went out to you know, a local establishment
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Speaker 5: kind of close to me, with some friends from our
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Speaker 5: local gym actually, and we watched. I was watching with
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Speaker 5: football fans watching soccer. It felt like I was watching
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Speaker 5: a Seahawks game, because you know, that's how our fans are.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was so fun.
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Speaker 3: Today Spain and Australia is the early game Croatia at
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Speaker 3: Port de Gal. I'll be in Vancouver, BC tonight for
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Speaker 3: Switzerland Algeria, covering that for the News Tribune and bringing
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Speaker 3: my wife and son. Seeing how Vancouver BC does it.
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Speaker 3: They have another watch party right downtown. You walk to
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Speaker 3: the match stadiums right there at VC Place downtown. The
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Speaker 3: Mariners yet they still playing. They resume and finish their
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Speaker 3: three game series against the Angels to night the Yard
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Speaker 3: and Soto six forty Bryce Miller's on the Hill. The
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Speaker 3: Rangers lost last night, so while the MS took the
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Speaker 3: day off for the World Cup, they bent back in
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Speaker 3: first waist so tied with Texas atop the American League West.
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Speaker 3: The Boston Celtics are reportedly trading former Finals MVP Jalen
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Speaker 3: Brown to the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. The Sixers are
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Speaker 3: sending Boston Paul George and shaking your head.
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Speaker 4: Right inside their division.
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Speaker 5: I mean I was watching the Sports Enter updates on
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Speaker 5: that and Brian Windhors is like, why, like he could
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Speaker 5: not make sense of it.
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Speaker 3: One became it's not like Jalen Bridge well impact, there's.
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Speaker 5: A lot of you know, implication that he wanted out regardless,
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Speaker 5: but you trade him to the Sixers and it didn't
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Speaker 5: have to happen.
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Speaker 3: Right now, Yeah, Sixers are getting or Boston's getting Paul
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Speaker 3: George two first round picks in twenty eight and thirty one,
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Speaker 3: two second round picks in twenty eight and thirty for
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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, the former finals MVP to the Sixers. Now
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Speaker 3: on with a pack Thursday show man. If you aren't
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Speaker 3: on board for this World Cup, you don't have to
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Speaker 3: be a soccer fan. It's this happens like a meteor strike.
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Speaker 3: Once in a generation or two does the US go
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Speaker 3: this far in a World Cup and it doesn't happen
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Speaker 3: in your own backyard. In nineteen ninety four, they got
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Speaker 3: just swept off and this was not what this is,
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Speaker 3: which is a build up to the round of sixteen,
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Speaker 3: and it's never ever been what it is right now,
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Speaker 3: coming to Seattle and you heard during the broadcast last night.
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Speaker 3: You heard people talking about it in the press box
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Speaker 3: yesterday at the Belgium met the United States. The team,
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Speaker 3: the program, the coaches, the staffers are players are very
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Speaker 3: much looking forward to the fact they're coming back to Seattle.
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Speaker 3: I mean it was okay loud in women in the
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Speaker 3: Levi Stadium in Santa Clara last night, at least coming
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Speaker 3: through the television screen. Of course, it was blaring at
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Speaker 3: Victory Hall right over my shoulders, so maybe that's why,
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Speaker 3: but it's not. It was not as loud as the
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Speaker 3: US Australia game was that. I was at the second
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Speaker 3: match of the six here in Seattle, and it's gonna
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Speaker 3: I mean that match. The players, you remember, the players
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Speaker 3: and coaches talked after the match about how that was
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Speaker 3: the unbelievable, yeah soccer scene they've never had been in
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Speaker 3: part of that, people are coming up to Christian Rodan
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Speaker 3: on the bench saying, how do I get to play
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Speaker 3: for the Sounders? You get to play for this? I
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Speaker 3: wrote a whole story about at the News Stributes at
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Speaker 3: the News Tribune dot com about how players are coming
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Speaker 3: up and going I gotta come to Seattle. This is unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: And roll On said, yeah, this is what they do
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Speaker 3: here sixty and twenty five again yesterday in the middle
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Speaker 3: of a work week at one o'clock for Belgium and
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Speaker 3: center Goal. And it was a party. It was a
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Speaker 3: party from the time I walked into the stadium, through
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Speaker 3: the final disputed whistle, through the penalty kick, through the
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Speaker 3: after down on Occidental Avenue, and they all spilled right
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Speaker 3: over to the bars and watched the US match, which
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Speaker 3: was continuing. A party.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 3: I've said this and written this. It is unlike the
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Speaker 3: NFL or college football, or college basketball or Major League baseball,
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Speaker 3: even which, let's face it is parochial. It's secular. You
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Speaker 3: like the forty nine ers, you like the Rams, you
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Speaker 3: like the Seahawks. This ain't that you like you like
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Speaker 3: the Koogs, and you like the Huskies. This ain't that.
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Speaker 3: This is everybody who's American hoping that Malik Tillman was
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Speaker 3: going to make that free kick at the top of
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Speaker 3: the box in the eighty second. Men, no matter where
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Speaker 3: you were from, no matter what NFL team or major
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Speaker 3: league team or college team, and now where you're graduated from,
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Speaker 3: that's what everyone is rooting for. And now on Monday,
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Speaker 3: the entire world will be watching Seattle, from the time
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Speaker 3: they wake up, to the watch parties, to the march ons,
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Speaker 3: to all of that that's going to be going on downtown.
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Speaker 3: It's a five pm match, so all of this will
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Speaker 3: get going, probably knowing these guys about nine am eight am.
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Speaker 3: I'll be down at Jimmy's on First across the street
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Speaker 3: from Lewenfield to tell you how it's going to be
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Speaker 3: building from about ten am for seven hours before the match.
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Speaker 3: But it's just until you see it. It's just hard
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Speaker 3: to explain how unifying, not just the United States, all
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Speaker 3: the countries. Saw a ton of Mexican jerseys, Colombian jerseys
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Speaker 3: again yesterday, Katarian. They've been eliminating from the tournament Belgium.
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Speaker 3: Of course, their home base has been here in Seattle.
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Speaker 3: This is something of a home game for them, although
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Speaker 3: it certainly won't feel like one on Monday. Who knew,
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Speaker 3: but it is just different. And nobody's pouring beer on
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Speaker 3: anybody else's head because they're wearing an opposite jersey, or
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Speaker 3: it's just a fun celebration of competition in sport, in
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Speaker 3: nationalism and pride and all of that. I was partying
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Speaker 3: with a rainy on Friday. I mean, we're at war
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Speaker 3: with Iran and they were in a bar and accidental
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Speaker 3: across the street from the stadium. They were probably Ranian
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Speaker 3: Americans because we're not letting the Iranians in the immigration
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Speaker 3: policies and our war with them. But the fact is
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Speaker 3: this is just different.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 3: And if you are in or around Seattle, I highly
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Speaker 3: encourage you. And yes, it'll be crowded, Yes, it'll be
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Speaker 3: an inconvenience. Yes, they'll be lying, Yes they'll be traffic.
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Speaker 3: Yes that's yes. But I highly encourage you to come
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Speaker 3: down and watch it because you'll remember it.
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Speaker 5: Even if you're not in the stadium. Just go to
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Speaker 5: a bar around the Yeah, go get down there.
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Speaker 3: Go where Jessman's gonna go. You probably go down to
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Speaker 3: Peer fifty eight again, aren't you You're going to the
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Speaker 3: US will have a probably do the same thing and
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Speaker 3: have Marshon Lynchell will probably be there, MF and everybody.
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Speaker 4: Well he should because that were the last time he said.
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Speaker 3: They're going to bring the whole m in place down
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Speaker 3: and they both did. And they'll know. March from Peer
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Speaker 3: fifty eight to through Pioneer Square and occidental Park into
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Speaker 3: the stadium and the Belgians will go at Victory Hall,
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Speaker 3: which has been their home base before matches across on
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Speaker 3: First Avenue, across from the Mariners Stadium, and then march
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Speaker 3: on from the other from the south, and it will
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Speaker 3: be on and it will be twenty five, thirty forty
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Speaker 3: years from now you'll say, yeah, I was there for that.
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Speaker 3: That was really cool. And not to mention the weather,
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Speaker 3: the fact that it's not bleeding hot and people aren't
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Speaker 3: passing out, it's just perfect. Yes, it's as perfect a
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Speaker 3: sporting event as there can be. And hats off to
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Speaker 3: the Seattle Organizing Commission and the people that have put
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Speaker 3: this on, and the Seattle Police Department and the Washington
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Speaker 3: State Patrol and all the levels of security that go
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Speaker 3: into this. There are a lot you'll see outside and
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Speaker 3: around the stadiums and so far, knock one lumber, this
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Speaker 3: has been a very event free as far as trouble.
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Speaker 3: There were three or four pitch invaders again yesterday and
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Speaker 3: they were summoned off the field.
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Speaker 5: But that's not like a violent crime or anything that
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Speaker 5: we hear about in the you know, the police blotters
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Speaker 5: and things that relate to downtown on a frequent basis.
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Speaker 4: We have had a very peaceful time.
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Speaker 3: We have and it's been universal across the world saying
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Speaker 3: how great Seattle has been and how the World Cup
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Speaker 3: should be here. And I've mentioned that a couple people
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Speaker 3: have come up to me, that soccer veteran journalist telling
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Speaker 3: me the World Cup finals should be here. On the
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Speaker 3: show today, we're going to talk about what exactly is
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Speaker 3: the purpose of VAR and soccer. I mean, come on,
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Speaker 3: between the Belgium decision and the US decision, it is
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Speaker 3: so intruding and deciding results. At ten twenty, right after
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Speaker 3: the break, we're going to talk to our resident soccer man,
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Speaker 3: Anderson Hurst, he's the iHeartRadio World Cup host, the former
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Speaker 3: college soccer player, about the VAR system, about the match yesterday,
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Speaker 3: and more, can the US really do this? How far
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Speaker 3: can they go? Jessmen mcintyrene I. At one o'clock, excuse me,
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Speaker 3: eleven o'clock we'll have another keyword, twenty five hundred dollars
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Speaker 3: Also at eleven o'clock we're gonna talk to Steve Phillips,
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Speaker 3: the former general manager of the New York Mets, who
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Speaker 3: is now with Major League Baseball Network and Sirius XM
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Speaker 3: and MLB ANOS for them. We're going to talk again
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Speaker 3: like we talked the other day to Jim Bowden about
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Speaker 3: the dynamics of a general manager in baseball with a
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Speaker 3: first time field manager in the dugout pertaining a course
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Speaker 3: to this Mariner situation. We'll talk to him about what
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Speaker 3: the Mariners should do. Jim Bolden, of course, the other day,
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Speaker 3: told us go for it, go get it back, go
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Speaker 3: get a reliever, and go because this is their chance
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Speaker 3: to win right now. Yeah, he said they can win
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Speaker 3: the World Series with this water down al Go Now.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to Steve Phillips at that at eleven o'clock
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Speaker 3: eleven thirty. We're redactor text four nine four to five
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Speaker 3: to one on the Takomodage text line. And if you
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Speaker 3: haven't gone out of the if you have gone down
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Speaker 3: of the World Cup, tell us what your impressions and
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Speaker 3: experiences have been. Mine have been tremendous. I mean, one
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Speaker 3: of the highlights of my career. And I'm just fortunate
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Speaker 3: that it's in my backyard. I've been in the stadium
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Speaker 3: every time. I just go, well, this is pretty cool.
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Speaker 3: This is my job. I'm pretty excited about that. So
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Speaker 3: is Anderson Hurst. He will be up next to talk
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Speaker 3: about the World Cup on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 3: We'll be back Greg bel Jessman McIntyre with you on
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Speaker 3: a Thursday that feels like a Friday, that's almost like
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Speaker 3: a Saturday, because we're into the nation's birthday weekend. Hoppy
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Speaker 3: July fourth to all of you. The Seattle Times reported
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Speaker 3: this morning that they have talked to King County spokespeople
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Speaker 3: in King County executive people that do not expect President
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Speaker 3: Trump or Vice President jd Vance to come to the
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Speaker 3: US match on Monday, the Round of sixteen against Belgium
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Speaker 3: at five pm, so there won't be that. What a
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Speaker 3: layer of extra that would be on top of what's
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Speaker 3: already going to be incredible spectacle. Anderson Hurst our resident
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Speaker 3: soccer expert, former Seattle U college player. He does the halftime,
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Speaker 3: the pregame, the post game for the Iheartratio Network, which
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Speaker 3: is just going great guns for the all the broadcasts,
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Speaker 3: not just the US broadcast.
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Speaker 6: Hats off to you and you appreciate it's been a
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Speaker 6: ton of fun. I think a lot of people you know,
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Speaker 6: like to bag on soccer, and this is the one
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Speaker 6: moment where it gets to shine a little bit, you
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Speaker 6: know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: So it sure does, it sure does. Wait, you had
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Speaker 3: Peter Feuing, your college coach form Seattle, you coach, and
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Speaker 3: of course the Seattle soccer icon here on the show yesterday.
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Speaker 3: He was on again this morning with Chuck Powell. What
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Speaker 3: were yours and coach Fewing's impressions of won the US? Yep,
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Speaker 3: their grit playing down more than a half hour with
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Speaker 3: ten men, the goal by Tillman.
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Speaker 6: Which was just an impeccable free kick, it was, and
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Speaker 6: the red card disease. So the game itself, I think
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Speaker 6: I have the biggest impressions on. First of all, I
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Speaker 6: thought going into this tournament that this US team was
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Speaker 6: different than in year's past.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and you said that to your credit, you said
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Speaker 3: on the air a couple of times.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And a lot of it is because it's what
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Speaker 6: happens we all know in others sports like you go
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Speaker 6: through these phases when you're young and you first get
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Speaker 6: to the playoffs, right if we're talking like NFL or
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Speaker 6: you know, whatever sport played, baseball, you have to you
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Speaker 6: have to get over the hump and then you continue
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Speaker 6: to kind of build on you know, what your window is,
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Speaker 6: right And with the US, they had a very similar
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Speaker 6: roster in twenty twenty two, so they came into this
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Speaker 6: World Cup, you know a little more seasoned, more experience.
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Speaker 6: But I think the biggest thing is what's happened with
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Speaker 6: the manager, and you could tell there's just a different
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Speaker 6: not only tactically, the players know exactly what their role is,
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Speaker 6: which is so important in soccer. It's it's i think
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Speaker 6: almost maybe just short of football in terms of what
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Speaker 6: your coach is trying to deliver for you as a
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Speaker 6: player in what specifically your role is. Soccer is next
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Speaker 6: the next level of importance. You can kind of, you know,
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Speaker 6: tell basketball players, okay, just go and take a guy
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Speaker 6: one on one, right, you know it's five players on five,
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Speaker 6: you know, do your thing. Similar with hockey a little
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Speaker 6: bit more, I would say, you know, baseball is very
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Speaker 6: much an individual type of game. It's all about in
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Speaker 6: the matchups. But soccer, I think it's all about everyone
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Speaker 6: doing their role correctly. And I think it's very similar
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Speaker 6: to football in that way. So having a good good
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Speaker 6: first of all, good game plan, second of all, good
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Speaker 6: communication of that game plan, and for a guy where
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Speaker 6: it's English as a second language, that's been quite impressive
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Speaker 6: to me. How you know much these players know what
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Speaker 6: they're supposed to do, and then the ability to adjust
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Speaker 6: that game plan when things go awry, and it's not
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Speaker 6: even necessarily to your fault that they go awry. But
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Speaker 6: when you get the red card, you can't play the
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Speaker 6: same way as you did before when you had eleven men.
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Speaker 6: And I saw two different managers last night, one for
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Speaker 6: Bosie and Herzegovina, who was freaking out after every single
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Speaker 6: call gets a yellow card, and I saw Reco Pochettino.
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Speaker 6: The red card happened in the sixty fourth minute, a
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Speaker 6: couple minutes before the hydra break, so he had a
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Speaker 6: chance to kind of figure out exactly what he wanted
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Speaker 6: to do in terms of changing the adjustment. And I
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Speaker 6: saw one of the calmest people that I've ever seen
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Speaker 6: in a knockout stage game, his first time coaching at
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Speaker 6: the World Cup on home soil, with expectations up one
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Speaker 6: zero down a man one of the most stressful moments
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Speaker 6: in a soccer game, and he showed so much poise
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Speaker 6: and he exerted that onto his players, and you saw
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Speaker 6: what they were able to do after that hydration break.
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Speaker 6: They still looked like the better team. They looked like
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Speaker 6: the team that was more likely to score. They didn't
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Speaker 6: park above, No, they did not. And I think that
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Speaker 6: one hundred percent goes into the coaching, the communication, and
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Speaker 6: the player leadership who have all been there and done that,
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Speaker 6: and I just I'm going to keep saying this team
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Speaker 6: feels different. So that's that's really really good to see.
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Speaker 6: They overcame a hurdle last night that I had not
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Speaker 6: seen a US men's national team overcome in my lifetime before.
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Speaker 6: And that's first of all, winning a knockout stage game.
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Speaker 6: They haven't done that since two thousand and two. And
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Speaker 6: then second of all, this is the first time again
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Speaker 6: in my lifetime, where they have played a knockout game
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Speaker 6: where they were expected to win. In the previous versions
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Speaker 6: of the World Cup, they had gone in and it's like, okay,
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Speaker 6: we're playing the Netherlands. If we win, great, If not, okay,
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Speaker 6: it's a successful World Cup. At this point, they were
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Speaker 6: expected to win and if they lost, the torches would
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Speaker 6: be lit and the pitchfork would be coming after you.
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Speaker 6: And they knew that and they embraced the pressure and
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Speaker 6: I love that. I love that from that group you're in.
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Speaker 3: Peter Fewing's impressions of the red card on Balligan. I'm
18:37
Speaker 3: not a soccer expert, but I think what is the
18:39
Speaker 3: purpose of var here? The intervention of Var. You could
18:42
Speaker 3: argue the same thing in the Belgium Senegal match. Once
18:45
Speaker 3: the Var interjacks, it almost isn't compelling the official to call,
18:49
Speaker 3: especially in a free frame moment like that.
18:51
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's multiple layers to this, all of
18:54
Speaker 6: which do not shine brightly on the decision that was
18:57
Speaker 6: finally made. But first, in my opinion, the if you
19:02
Speaker 6: take the tackle in a vacuum, it's not a red card,
19:05
Speaker 6: mainly because of the intent. You could tell Florient it
19:08
Speaker 6: was literally just a tangle of the legs and he
19:10
Speaker 6: was finding a place for his foot to be put
19:12
Speaker 6: down and the Bosnian defender happened to slide his foot
19:16
Speaker 6: directly under where he was putting it. And yes, it
19:18
Speaker 6: looks bad in slow motion, but you know whatever, But
19:23
Speaker 6: that's not even the worst part about this decision. The
19:24
Speaker 6: worst part about this decision is the fact that it's
19:27
Speaker 6: so inconsistent with how they have been using VAR compared
19:30
Speaker 6: to the rest of the tournament. More often than not,
19:33
Speaker 6: there was a concerted effort coming into the World Cup
19:37
Speaker 6: where there was this kind of thought process with previous
19:41
Speaker 6: World Cups and you know in the European leagues and
19:43
Speaker 6: the Premier League, Champions League, stuff like that, where VR
19:45
Speaker 6: would be too much in too much intervention, where they
19:49
Speaker 6: would try and re referee is what the phrase they use.
19:52
Speaker 6: They try and re referee the situation. And they didn't
19:55
Speaker 6: want that to be the case. They want it to
19:56
Speaker 6: be okay if it's a clear and obvious error. The
20:00
Speaker 6: the threshold for going to VAR would be much higher
20:03
Speaker 6: for this tournament. And you've seen that, You've seen kind
20:07
Speaker 6: of questionable calls that they stick more often than not,
20:10
Speaker 6: they stick with what the call was made on the field.
20:12
Speaker 6: And the fact that there was not even a foul
20:14
Speaker 6: called on the field, not even a yellow card called
20:17
Speaker 6: on the field, the fact that they told him to
20:19
Speaker 6: go to VAR and switch that is so inconsistent with
20:24
Speaker 6: what they have been doing all tournament long. And then
20:27
Speaker 6: the cherry on top of that, as you compare that,
20:29
Speaker 6: there was a tackle that I'm a huge Argentina fan.
20:32
Speaker 6: There's a tackle that Lionel Messi made Argentinian against Algeria.
20:37
Speaker 6: Uh Argentina. Yeah, and I'll be frank, Neither of them
20:40
Speaker 6: are red cards, right. A lot of people are saying, oh,
20:42
Speaker 6: if one's a red card, the other one's a red card.
20:44
Speaker 6: Neither of them are red cards. And the fact that
20:46
Speaker 6: you didn't call that one and did call this one
20:48
Speaker 6: is just it's it's mind boggling to me. There's so
20:50
Speaker 6: many wrong ways about this.
20:51
Speaker 3: Let's define that. I could argue the same for the
20:54
Speaker 3: Senegal call in the game I was watching. I completely
20:56
Speaker 3: agree that that was not a run a play call,
20:58
Speaker 3: and the referee didn't call that there was another intervention
21:01
Speaker 3: by var Let's define they in VR. This is not
21:04
Speaker 3: like the NFL, where the NFL officiating office in New
21:06
Speaker 3: York has the all encompassing authority. These are individual, three
21:10
Speaker 3: person crews. They show him in the stupid statuet thing
21:13
Speaker 3: at the start of the match. Yeah, those dudes and
21:16
Speaker 3: gals are the ones who have the autonomy inside their
21:19
Speaker 3: own little video booth for each match to make these decisions.
21:22
Speaker 3: There's no FIFA feifdom over in Zurich somewhere that is
21:26
Speaker 3: saying that's a red car these are the individual three
21:29
Speaker 3: person crews on the But to your point, there is
21:34
Speaker 3: obviously no consistency from one match to that, which is
21:37
Speaker 3: really appalling. When you get to the knockout stage. Senegal's
21:41
Speaker 3: going home because of this. Yes, Bosnia could have tied
21:44
Speaker 3: the game because.
21:45
Speaker 6: Of this, and you won't have your best player for
21:47
Speaker 6: the next game. And yeah, that's the other thing. And
21:49
Speaker 6: possibly longer I saw a report today, they might extend.
21:52
Speaker 3: If they think it was a malicious, injurious act.
21:55
Speaker 6: I just would be so dumbfounded if that would end
21:58
Speaker 6: up being the case. But no, and let's let's be
22:01
Speaker 6: clear to the listeners about what actually goes on. Yes,
22:04
Speaker 6: it's the people in the booth that they show the
22:06
Speaker 6: var referee. They they it's their job to basically be like, hey,
22:11
Speaker 6: you might want to take a second look at this.
22:13
Speaker 6: It's not they're not making the call. It's the They
22:16
Speaker 6: tell the ref hey, you need to go to the
22:18
Speaker 6: video monitor and check this again.
22:20
Speaker 3: But as soon as they freeze frame it and show
22:21
Speaker 3: them the bent ankle.
22:22
Speaker 6: Yeah, then he's gonna call it again. More often than
22:24
Speaker 6: notine eighty percent of the time when they go to
22:26
Speaker 6: the monitor, they're gonna switch the call right, So yes,
22:29
Speaker 6: you're you are correct in that sense, but it's just
22:33
Speaker 6: and I think one of the reasons people have been
22:35
Speaker 6: praising the refereeing in this tournament so far up until
22:38
Speaker 6: this point has been because it's been very hands off.
22:41
Speaker 6: They allow the referees to ref the game unless it's,
22:44
Speaker 6: like I said, a clear and obvious era you just
22:46
Speaker 6: missed it, like straight up missed it. If there's any
22:49
Speaker 6: sort of question marks, stick with the call in the field.
22:52
Speaker 6: And they didn't do that last night.
22:54
Speaker 3: Clear and obvious there. That was first game to mind
22:56
Speaker 3: to me. I mean, that's to me, that's the purpose
22:58
Speaker 3: of var exactly. But that's not how it's being implied.
23:00
Speaker 3: This is of course Anderson Hurst. You hear them all
23:02
Speaker 3: the time on the iHeartRadio app. You hear him all
23:04
Speaker 3: the time on our stations. He's doing triple duty on
23:07
Speaker 3: top of being a dad, for being a producer for
23:09
Speaker 3: Ian Fanessa's show. He's doing the iHeart matches. Are you
23:12
Speaker 3: doing Spain Austria too?
23:13
Speaker 6: No to have the day off for the pre half
23:16
Speaker 6: post today, but guess what game I get to do tomorrow?
23:18
Speaker 6: Oh man Argentina k Verda imagine that Let's go I'm
23:22
Speaker 6: sure you'll be right down the middle, and yeah, everyone
23:24
Speaker 6: gets the day off except the World Cup, so you
23:26
Speaker 6: know that's right.
23:27
Speaker 3: That is true. So to clarify for those on the
23:31
Speaker 3: text line, is a lot of people asking can they
23:33
Speaker 3: appeal this? They can't appeal it during normal cannot through
23:37
Speaker 3: normal channels because but they could go to the disciplinary
23:40
Speaker 3: committee for fIF am I correct.
23:42
Speaker 6: Correct, Yes they could. It's very unlikely that it gets overturned.
23:46
Speaker 6: I think the most likely scenario is they stick with
23:49
Speaker 6: just the one game suspension. It won't get extended further
23:52
Speaker 6: than that, and I don't think they'll appeal it or
23:55
Speaker 6: because the thing is, this is where I the worst
23:58
Speaker 6: part of the decision is the var part of it.
24:00
Speaker 6: If they had called red card on the field, I
24:02
Speaker 6: think you would see a lot more at least. Okay,
24:05
Speaker 6: I can sort of understand why you called that, and
24:09
Speaker 6: you know, go into the video and trying to overturn
24:11
Speaker 6: what it would have been an originally a red card
24:14
Speaker 6: in the first place would have been difficult to do.
24:17
Speaker 6: The fact that they didn't call it on the field
24:19
Speaker 6: and then switched it is the worst part about this
24:21
Speaker 6: whole decision. So yes, there is a little bit of
24:25
Speaker 6: an endangering of the opponent. Everyone likes to that maybe
24:28
Speaker 6: is defending the decision. That's the quote that they're using,
24:31
Speaker 6: because there is an element of that with red cards,
24:34
Speaker 6: if you're endangering the safety and opponent. I mean, it's
24:39
Speaker 6: so much of these are subjective, and that's why I
24:42
Speaker 6: usually like the let the referee who's on the field
24:45
Speaker 6: in the moment, although he wasn't great last night, not
24:48
Speaker 6: just in that decision and other stuff too, but usually
24:52
Speaker 6: that's the kind of decision where let the guy who's
24:56
Speaker 6: on the field right next to the play make the decision.
24:57
Speaker 6: Don't look at it in a free strame.
24:59
Speaker 3: Okay, So Flow, who by far is the most dynamic
25:01
Speaker 3: US player, is not going to play. Yeah, Polistic is
25:05
Speaker 3: known as the best player, but I don't know. I
25:07
Speaker 3: think maybe a game break.
25:08
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, he's the best goal scorer. I'll put
25:10
Speaker 6: it that way.
25:11
Speaker 3: He won't play. It all appears and barring some kind
25:13
Speaker 3: of crazy tribunal like go to the Hague or something,
25:16
Speaker 3: between now and Monday, do you put Ricardo Pepe and
25:20
Speaker 3: go with two strikers with Polistic? What what do you
25:22
Speaker 3: do tactically? How do you think they're going to handle this.
25:25
Speaker 6: I think it's a straight swap with Ricardo Peppy.
25:28
Speaker 3: Will they do two in the front as they did
25:30
Speaker 3: against Australia.
25:31
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think so, because it was Peppy and Baligan,
25:34
Speaker 6: remember sure, and then because that was without Polisic, right,
25:37
Speaker 6: I think what they'll do and you it's a very
25:40
Speaker 6: fluid formation, but the traditional striker, I think there's just
25:43
Speaker 6: gonna be one. It's going to be Peppy and then
25:45
Speaker 6: Polistic will kind of play more off to the left
25:47
Speaker 6: and a little bit deeper, you know. And then with
25:51
Speaker 6: McKenney as well, kind of both supplying uh service to
25:56
Speaker 6: Ricardo Peppy and I actually think this works pretty well
25:59
Speaker 6: in their favor. I've all he's been a fan of
26:00
Speaker 6: Ricardo Peppe. I thought he should have had an opportunity
26:03
Speaker 6: to be a starter from the get go, and I'm
26:05
Speaker 6: happy they went to that in the Australia mansion. It
26:08
Speaker 6: proved to be a good decision because he was very
26:10
Speaker 6: effective in that game. He's much better than Balligan with
26:13
Speaker 6: his back to goal kind of hold up play and
26:15
Speaker 6: then he can allow players to run off of him
26:18
Speaker 6: a little bit. So maybe if like he provides a
26:20
Speaker 6: little bit more of an outlet to pass the ball
26:22
Speaker 6: defeat with his back to the goal, and then you
26:24
Speaker 6: know combinations off of that. So I think it's a
26:28
Speaker 6: lot of people are devastated and it's like, oh, he's
26:31
Speaker 6: one of the best players. Your top goal scorer is
26:32
Speaker 6: going out, might as well, you know the gues is
26:35
Speaker 6: going home now because of that. That's not true at all.
26:37
Speaker 6: I think that you don't have much of a drop off,
26:39
Speaker 6: like a little bit from Baaligan to Peppy, just because
26:43
Speaker 6: Baligan's been so good. But I think PEPPI will step
26:46
Speaker 6: in and perform admirably.
26:48
Speaker 3: This is also not the same Belgian team as even
26:51
Speaker 3: four years ago. I've watched him in person now twice
26:53
Speaker 3: Sarre in Seattle. They were slow as hell yesterday for
26:57
Speaker 3: most of them. Match he should have lost, but they
26:59
Speaker 3: were five minutes so believes just ran or just ran
27:02
Speaker 3: them over. And the US has similar speed they do.
27:06
Speaker 6: This is where I get a little bit worried because
27:09
Speaker 6: Belgium it feels like at any moment can just turn
27:11
Speaker 6: it on, right, and that's kind of what happened yesterday, right,
27:14
Speaker 6: And and it's funny because they took out probably their
27:16
Speaker 6: two best players.
27:17
Speaker 3: Actually, I was going to ask you about that. Did
27:19
Speaker 3: the Bruner come off the bench now? Because they took
27:21
Speaker 3: him out at the sixty minute, fifty ninth minute, and
27:24
Speaker 3: that's when they took all They were down to nothing
27:26
Speaker 3: with their World Cup and steak. They took the Bruyan
27:28
Speaker 3: and don't take them out.
27:29
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the bigger thing is in the players
27:31
Speaker 6: they took out. It's who they put in. It's Romol
27:33
Speaker 6: Lucaku who's been He hasn't started a game, but he's
27:36
Speaker 6: their top goal scorer. That's insane to me. I don't
27:39
Speaker 6: know how that's the case. Maybe he's not fully fit.
27:42
Speaker 6: Maybe they know that he provides a second, dynamic kind
27:45
Speaker 6: of coming off the bench in the last twenty minutes
27:47
Speaker 6: of a game. I'm not sure. The question mark is
27:50
Speaker 6: if he starts. If he starts, that's going to provide
27:52
Speaker 6: a handful for Tim Reem, Chris Richards and Alex Freeman.
27:58
Speaker 6: So I that's gonna be the big question mark for me.
28:01
Speaker 6: I think de Bruyne still starts.
28:02
Speaker 3: You have to.
28:02
Speaker 6: He's kind of their leader. Doku's just so dynamic when
28:05
Speaker 6: he's on the ball. Yes, his end product has a
28:07
Speaker 6: lot of a question mark to it, but you have
28:10
Speaker 6: to start those guys. The bigger question is whether Romolu
28:12
Speaker 6: Lukaku's is fit enough to start this game from the beginning.
28:15
Speaker 6: And that is where I would get a little bit
28:17
Speaker 6: worried because we've seen it now against Australia and against Bosnia.
28:23
Speaker 6: The physical, sit back and defend types of teams aren't
28:27
Speaker 6: the teams that bother the US that much. I still
28:30
Speaker 6: go back to the Australia match and I noticed a
28:33
Speaker 6: shift when they started the game. They tried to just
28:36
Speaker 6: sit back and defend with five and play for free kicks,
28:39
Speaker 6: and the US just looked like it was easy.
28:41
Speaker 3: Right.
28:42
Speaker 6: They know how to break those teams down much easier
28:45
Speaker 6: than if you try and take the game to them.
28:46
Speaker 6: And that's what Australia did in the second half, and
28:48
Speaker 6: that's why they struggled. That's why I'm so surprised with
28:50
Speaker 6: Bosnia and how they went about the game last night.
28:53
Speaker 6: And I get it, and some teams aren't able to
28:55
Speaker 6: do that as easily. And that's why Turkey gave the
28:57
Speaker 6: US some trouble, is because they took the game to
28:59
Speaker 6: the US. Belgium I have a feeling is going to
29:02
Speaker 6: do that same thing, and that's why there's a little
29:04
Speaker 6: bit of worry in my head. I still feel like
29:05
Speaker 6: the US is the better team. They have the better roster,
29:08
Speaker 6: they have the better coach, but there is some question
29:13
Speaker 6: marks about you know, what the Belgians will do against
29:15
Speaker 6: the US.
29:16
Speaker 3: Three Lions escape thanks to Harry Kane.
29:21
Speaker 6: Night him.
29:21
Speaker 3: Now I think they probably did in the changing room
29:24
Speaker 3: after the match.
29:25
Speaker 6: Yeah.
29:26
Speaker 3: Now, a Battle Royale and a Studios Tech Hall on
29:29
Speaker 3: Sunday at five o'clock.
29:30
Speaker 6: That's gonna be one of the best games in the
29:31
Speaker 6: knockout stage. I'm telling you right.
29:32
Speaker 3: Now, Andrews in Mexico has scores. Now, I mean they've
29:35
Speaker 3: always been a rugged, defensive team, right, and now they've
29:38
Speaker 3: got scores. I think with the altitude one hundred thousand people,
29:43
Speaker 3: they're going to beat England. What do you think?
29:44
Speaker 6: You're not alone in thinking that it's a very fifty
29:47
Speaker 6: to fifty for me, because I believe England. England's team
29:50
Speaker 6: is better. England's squad is better, but they haven't really
29:53
Speaker 6: looked convincing up until this point. But you could say
29:56
Speaker 6: that about a lot of teams they like. Belgian's one
29:58
Speaker 6: of them.
29:59
Speaker 5: Right.
29:59
Speaker 6: They continue to move even though they haven't looked great
30:01
Speaker 6: for the majority of their time at this tournament. But
30:04
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, this Mexican team seemed like very
30:07
Speaker 6: similar to the US actually, where they've struggled to get
30:10
Speaker 6: over the hump. They feel like they have a lot
30:12
Speaker 6: of talent. If this Mexican team feels different, very similar
30:16
Speaker 6: to the US, they in the it's in a different
30:19
Speaker 6: way though, because the thing that would kind of limit
30:23
Speaker 6: Mexico from moving on is kind of very dumb fouls
30:27
Speaker 6: in terrible moments, lack of discipline, lack of composure, because
30:34
Speaker 6: they would always have talent for sure, and I think
30:38
Speaker 6: they've really eliminated that aspect to their game. They defend
30:42
Speaker 6: really well, compact together. They haven't allowed a goal this
30:45
Speaker 6: whole tournament, right exactly, It's it's insane. But the other
30:52
Speaker 6: aspect to this, everyone across the soccer world for the
30:58
Speaker 6: longest time, when the US would struggle to win in Mexico,
31:03
Speaker 6: is now realizing how hard it is to do. Yes,
31:06
Speaker 6: because not only the altitude, but just Mexico's home field
31:12
Speaker 6: advantage is different than I think any others in frankly
31:16
Speaker 6: in the world with their fans and how much they
31:19
Speaker 6: change the atmosphere how much they feed energy to their team.
31:26
Speaker 6: England are going to realize and for those who are
31:29
Speaker 6: giving the US crap for not being able to win
31:31
Speaker 6: in Mexico because they haven't for a long time, they're
31:34
Speaker 6: going to realize how difficult it is to beat Mexico
31:37
Speaker 6: in Mexico. And that's I think a big reason why
31:40
Speaker 6: they've been so successful.
31:41
Speaker 3: My college soccer playing Sun brought up to the point
31:43
Speaker 3: the other night watching the Mexico Ecuador match that Mexico
31:46
Speaker 3: plays such a deep seeded back LINEE let's pushed so
31:49
Speaker 3: far back that back. Yeah, that requires such of their midfielders.
31:53
Speaker 3: They have to cover so much grounds to do. And
31:55
Speaker 3: when they play in Mexico City, it's at seventy three
31:58
Speaker 3: hundred feet Yeah, I mean we've mile high is high
32:01
Speaker 3: in Denver it's again two thousand feet above that. He
32:05
Speaker 3: thinks Mexico's midfielders is why they win. Yeah.
32:07
Speaker 6: They start a seventeen year old, the second youngest starter
32:11
Speaker 6: in World Cup history. You know, the youngest is Hale
32:14
Speaker 6: Palle Yeah, the only guy that's younger to start a
32:17
Speaker 6: World Cup knockout stage match. Then Hilberto Mora for Mexico,
32:23
Speaker 6: who is a absolute stud by the way, he's becoming
32:27
Speaker 6: like the young player of this tournament. Every single World
32:29
Speaker 6: Cup there's always a young player that kind of breaks
32:31
Speaker 6: out of nowhere. He's kind of becoming that guy. But
32:36
Speaker 6: he's a stud. And I think Obed Vargas has a
32:39
Speaker 6: chance maybe not to start because they've shown a lot
32:41
Speaker 6: of success with the two guys that they have in
32:43
Speaker 6: there now, but he comes on and makes a difference
32:45
Speaker 6: every single time. So the former sounder is a big
32:47
Speaker 6: part of that as well.
32:48
Speaker 3: And as you played soccer for twenty five plus years
32:51
Speaker 3: in the city you played college here in Seattle University,
32:54
Speaker 3: what is this World Cup meant to the Pacific Northwest
32:57
Speaker 3: to Seattle And what's Mondays spectacle that we'reund of sixteen
33:02
Speaker 3: here in Seattle going to be.
33:03
Speaker 6: It's pretty simple what Monday is going to be. It's
33:05
Speaker 6: going to be the biggest sporting event in Seattle history,
33:09
Speaker 6: borderline biggest event in Seattle history, depending on how you
33:12
Speaker 6: measure that. But I mean, I'm biased. I'm a soccer fan,
33:15
Speaker 6: I'm a huge World Cup fan, and I live in Seattle,
33:17
Speaker 6: so but I think and they've mentioned it multiple times
33:21
Speaker 6: on the broadcast when the US aren't even in Seattle.
33:24
Speaker 6: They say, oh, they're going back to Seattle, the best
33:28
Speaker 6: probably the best atmosphere at this World Cup. They talked
33:32
Speaker 6: about that on the air, which is really dang cool.
33:35
Speaker 6: I just I'm bursting with pride, not only for this
33:38
Speaker 6: US men's national team and the fact that they're finally
33:41
Speaker 6: having some success on the biggest stage, and it's it's
33:44
Speaker 6: a brand of soccer that I can get behind and
33:46
Speaker 6: I love watching, but the fact that they're able to
33:49
Speaker 6: do that, and the couple that with how much love
33:53
Speaker 6: our city is getting as as a host city, as
33:57
Speaker 6: a stadium, as a as a downtown area, and how
34:00
Speaker 6: cool it is to have it directly in the city,
34:02
Speaker 6: which is very different from a lot of the stadiums
34:04
Speaker 6: that they're playing in, and just that Seattle is a
34:08
Speaker 6: soccer town. I think we've known that for a long time,
34:10
Speaker 6: but having it get not just national attention but global
34:14
Speaker 6: attention with how cool you know this is, It's it's
34:19
Speaker 6: really special and I think enjoy Monday. I know it's
34:21
Speaker 6: going to be a zoo and some people if maybe
34:25
Speaker 6: soccer is not your main thing, and you may realize
34:29
Speaker 6: that there might be some more traffic in the area
34:31
Speaker 6: and just more people you know, talking about it at
34:34
Speaker 6: your coffee shops or whatever. Then you may be used
34:36
Speaker 6: to lean into it because it's you won't get this off.
34:40
Speaker 6: It won't happen in my lifetime again. There won't be
34:42
Speaker 6: a Round of sixteen match involving the United States men's
34:45
Speaker 6: national team in Seattle for the World Cup in my
34:47
Speaker 6: lifetime ever again. So enjoy it, lean into it, and
34:51
Speaker 6: have some fun with it.
34:51
Speaker 3: Anderson Harris, thank you. I know you're busy, busy lady man.
34:54
Speaker 3: I thank you for coming in. He'll be there Monday.
34:57
Speaker 3: I'll be there Monday. We'll be having a live Monday
34:59
Speaker 3: of five O the United States and Belgium down at Blomenfield.
35:02
Speaker 3: I'll be at Jimmy's in first at ten am on Monday.
35:04
Speaker 3: Thank you, sir, appreciate you. Up next, more about the
35:07
Speaker 3: World Cup. What I saw yesterday in the scene of
35:09
Speaker 3: Belgium and Senegal. Again, I look ahead to what's in
35:12
Speaker 3: store for everyone here in Seattle on Monday, and Steve Phillips,
35:15
Speaker 3: former Major League general manager, is going to talk to
35:17
Speaker 3: us about the dynamics of a first time bench manager
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Speaker 3: with a GM that's at ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 3: Welcome Mack, Greg Bell, Jasman McIntyre with you on a
35:36
Speaker 3: Thursday before the holiday weekend. I hope you're having a
35:39
Speaker 3: great Thursday and hopefully maybe getting a day off and
35:42
Speaker 3: getting into the weekend if you're planning on going to
35:44
Speaker 3: the World Cup match on Monday here in Seattle between
35:47
Speaker 3: Belgium and the United States and a round of sixteen
35:50
Speaker 3: tickets I've noticed on the secondary online ticket sites are
35:53
Speaker 3: about twenty three hundred dollars to get in as of
35:56
Speaker 3: right now, and I would be aware of some of
35:59
Speaker 3: the secondary ticket sites. The BBC is the latest of
36:03
Speaker 3: many outlets that have broadcast reports and published reports, particularly
36:09
Speaker 3: targeting stub Hub, and most of the reports I've seen
36:11
Speaker 3: is StubHub dot com is engaging what's called speculative ticketing.
36:18
Speaker 3: What's that, well, buyers and put in air quotes post
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Speaker 3: tickets that they don't actually possess, with the hopes of
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Speaker 3: buying them later for less than they're selling them for
36:29
Speaker 3: on the site and clearing the profit. And then what
36:32
Speaker 3: happens is they may procure those tickets, but then they
36:36
Speaker 3: see the market for the game go wayt sky high
36:38
Speaker 3: because of the demand, and they don't fulfill the request
36:42
Speaker 3: at the lower price and sell it at a higher price.
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Speaker 5: I remember this happening to people in Arizona for the
36:46
Speaker 5: Seahawks second Super Bowl run exactly. I just remember people
36:50
Speaker 5: from Seattle that I knew who spent thousands of dollars
36:53
Speaker 5: on the tickets and the travel, showing up to.
36:56
Speaker 4: The game and not having them.
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Speaker 3: The BBC interviewed from Argentina who was living in Texas.
37:03
Speaker 3: His parents lived in Mexico, and he bought two tickets
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Speaker 3: for seventeen hundred dollars each to see Argentina and Austria
37:11
Speaker 3: play in Dallas or Arlington. And he spent six thousand
37:14
Speaker 3: dollars to fly his parents from Mexico to Dallas and
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Speaker 3: for two StubHub tickets. He thought he was getting for
37:22
Speaker 3: thirty four hundred dollars that they could come with him,
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Speaker 3: and StubHub never fulfilled the request. The tickets were the Allegedly,
37:30
Speaker 3: the experts in the industry say the tickets were sold
37:33
Speaker 3: to someone else who would pay more. To quote Chris
37:38
Speaker 3: arc that ain't right. But this is not new. As
37:42
Speaker 3: Jessman said, this happens at the Super Bowl as well.
37:45
Speaker 3: What's different about this one? Is I'd noticed StubHub is
37:47
Speaker 3: getting all the flack and most of the complaints. Another
37:51
Speaker 3: thing I've noticed anecdotally. I'd bought a ticket for my
37:54
Speaker 3: son on one of these secondary sites to go to
37:57
Speaker 3: the Egypt Aron match Friday night at Luminfield, which was crazy,
38:00
Speaker 3: great match and he's so glad he went. He paid
38:03
Speaker 3: about five hundred dollars or so to sit in the
38:05
Speaker 3: third deck in the corner. But there are tickets you
38:09
Speaker 3: can buy that are quote zone tickets. They don't give
38:14
Speaker 3: you an actual section, row and seat No. Interesting because
38:18
Speaker 3: FIFA on their website, the official ticket website, puts tickets
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Speaker 3: in categories and zones. I would be really really wary
38:26
Speaker 3: of buying tickets that are just in zones that don't
38:28
Speaker 3: have a seat number, a row number, and a section number.
38:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like general admission kind of, but at
38:33
Speaker 4: least you get in with GA.
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Speaker 3: And it also suggests that the seller doesn't actually have
38:38
Speaker 3: the ticket in his possession or else he would probably
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Speaker 3: publish the row, seat and section number. So I told
38:45
Speaker 3: my son, don't buy that ticket. Let's get one that
38:47
Speaker 3: has an actual seat number, row and you can verify
38:50
Speaker 3: that you're going to get it. Here's the other thing.
38:52
Speaker 3: Because FIFA controls all of the tickets, even on the
38:55
Speaker 3: secondary sites. If you even buy a ticket, you don't
38:58
Speaker 3: get it until about an hour or two before the match.
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Speaker 3: That's how especially if you've flown from who knows where
39:06
Speaker 3: I flew from Belgium for Monday's match. FIFA is not
39:10
Speaker 3: going to fulfill the ticket request or transfer it through
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Speaker 3: vivid seats or game time or anybody until an hour
39:18
Speaker 3: or two before the match. My son on Friday was
39:19
Speaker 3: just walking around with I hope I get my ticket. Oh,
39:23
Speaker 3: I bet five hundred and eighty dollars on it. I
39:25
Speaker 3: hope I get it, and he and it. He did,
39:27
Speaker 3: and it actually was about an hour and thirty minutes,
39:29
Speaker 3: which I'm told is a little bit earlier than some
39:31
Speaker 3: people get them.
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Speaker 4: That would that would really have me in an anxiety place.
39:35
Speaker 3: Yes, so beware. I we'd love for everyone to have
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Speaker 3: the experience. I am blessed that I'm going to be
39:42
Speaker 3: in the stadium covering it for the News Tribune again
39:44
Speaker 3: on Monday. And if you want to get in the stadium,
39:47
Speaker 3: I get it, but be careful because this I would
39:50
Speaker 3: my advice so far as to not buy tickets to
39:52
Speaker 3: say zone and not an actual seat row and section number.
39:56
Speaker 3: And I hate to say it, but I'd have voiced
39:58
Speaker 3: ub up because that's what all the ports are saying
40:00
Speaker 3: is not good stuff. And we told you why. Up next,
40:04
Speaker 3: let's shift gears the Baseball about the Mariners having first
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Speaker 3: time managers now for the last two of them, Scott
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Speaker 3: Service and Dan Wilson, first time manager with no managerial experience.
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Speaker 3: What a GM's role is in that. We've talked a
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Speaker 3: lot about Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander and their influence
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Speaker 3: on the day to day in the dugout. Steve Phillips,
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Speaker 3: former general manager now MLB Network and SiriusXM Major League Baseball,
40:27
Speaker 3: and so join us on the phone next about that
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Speaker 3: on ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome back, drag bellessin McIntyre.
40:53
Speaker 3: We you live on ninety three point three KJRFM in Seattle,
40:57
Speaker 3: where on Monday there will be the biggest sporting event
40:59
Speaker 3: in Seattle history, the United States against Belgium in the
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Speaker 3: round of sixteen in the World Cup. Before that, the
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Speaker 3: Mariners play here in Seattle. They played a night to
41:07
Speaker 3: finish the series against the Angels six forty start tomorrow
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Speaker 3: the Toronto Blue Jays come into town for their annual
41:15
Speaker 3: invasion and the BC fans will come in and all
41:17
Speaker 3: of that good stuff. Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Steve Phillips,
41:22
Speaker 3: former major league general manager, now a Major League Baseball
41:26
Speaker 3: analyst for MLB Network and Serious XM, joined us on
41:29
Speaker 3: the Beacon Plumbing Highland. Steve, thank you for joining us
41:31
Speaker 3: on a holiday weekend, or hopefully it's already a holiday
41:33
Speaker 3: weekend for you.
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Speaker 1: Hello, sir, Hi, good, good afternoon.
41:38
Speaker 3: Good to be with you.
41:38
Speaker 1: I'm actually on my way to Scaucus. Yeah, okay, network,
41:45
Speaker 1: So yeah, so no holiday when it's baseball.
41:49
Speaker 3: That's right. You're well aware of that at your career
41:51
Speaker 3: in the league. I think Jesse McIntyre, my producer, alerted
41:55
Speaker 3: you to the fact that I'm going to ask you
41:56
Speaker 3: first about the dynamics of being a Major League Baseball
41:59
Speaker 3: general manager with first time managers in the dugout. The
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Speaker 3: managers have done this, not Jess, with Scott Servis and
42:05
Speaker 3: currently Dan Wilson, but even before that, Don Walkamatsu, Bob Melvin,
42:10
Speaker 3: former major league catchers who became managers. In your experience, Steve,
42:14
Speaker 3: and your knowledge around the league. What is the dynamic,
42:17
Speaker 3: what are the role do the GM take, do you
42:19
Speaker 3: get more hands on in that situation or and what
42:22
Speaker 3: can you tell us about what you know of Jerry
42:24
Speaker 3: Depoto's role in these first time managers in the dugout.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's interesting because there are you know, there
42:33
Speaker 1: are times when an owner hires a general manager and
42:38
Speaker 1: it's a young guy or somebody who hasn't been a
42:42
Speaker 1: GM yet, and it feels like the owner wants to
42:45
Speaker 1: control the general manager. And I think in some ways
42:48
Speaker 1: when I got hired with the Mets, it was that
42:50
Speaker 1: way a little bit. I think I went from Joe mckilfain,
42:53
Speaker 1: who was an experienced guy, to me coming in, and
42:55
Speaker 1: I think there was a bit of I'll have more
42:58
Speaker 1: input into the baseball when I get somebody who's young
43:01
Speaker 1: and not his experienced.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
43:04
Speaker 1: And then we've seen when it comes to managers, you know,
43:07
Speaker 1: with the change and analytics and you know the explosion
43:12
Speaker 1: of analytics and the metrics that are in the game,
43:14
Speaker 1: we've seen more and more where general managers and front
43:19
Speaker 1: offices funnel down information to the manager and the coaches,
43:24
Speaker 1: And you know, I think there's a belief that it's
43:26
Speaker 1: more readily acceptable when somebody's getting their first job that
43:31
Speaker 1: maybe they're not so inclined to to, you know, love
43:35
Speaker 1: the analytics.
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Speaker 4: I believe he cut out that I might have been back.
43:39
Speaker 3: He might be in the halland tunnel. If he's going
43:40
Speaker 3: from New York City to set from New Jersey, that
43:45
Speaker 3: could be what he's doing. We're talking with Steve Phillips
43:47
Speaker 3: from Major League Baseball Network and Serious XMMLBB, an analyst.
43:51
Speaker 3: He's a former New York Mets general manager. He's talking
43:53
Speaker 3: about the first time managers in the dugout and the
43:56
Speaker 3: relationship with a general manage. He was in mid sentence
43:59
Speaker 3: talking about the analytics role in all of this. Court
44:02
Speaker 3: Jerry to Poto and Justin Hollander are all in on analytics.
44:06
Speaker 3: The hand it is how they use a bullpen, how
44:09
Speaker 3: they use relievers. That is what they do. And they
44:14
Speaker 3: are numbers driven. And we've said it and talked about
44:16
Speaker 3: it here that it is very convenient to push the
44:18
Speaker 3: numbers from up high down onto the dugout when you
44:21
Speaker 3: have a first time manager in the dugout. Of course,
44:24
Speaker 3: Dan Wilson was hand picked by Jerry Depoto and specifically
44:28
Speaker 3: put to Poto for this role, and Scott Servis was
44:32
Speaker 3: largely picked the same way they'd worked together with the Angels,
44:35
Speaker 3: and he knew he would have yes men in the
44:38
Speaker 3: dugout who would do what the analytics staff and the
44:42
Speaker 3: president baseball operas and the general manager want to do.
44:44
Speaker 3: So it's interesting to explore how baseball has changed. I'd
44:48
Speaker 3: mentioned to Jim Bowden the other day from Majorgue baseball
44:50
Speaker 3: general manager as well, about how when I covered ball,
44:54
Speaker 3: the general manager didn't have daily meetings with the manager.
44:56
Speaker 3: Billy Bean didn't have daily meetings with or how about
44:59
Speaker 3: how they're going to use pitchers and whatnot, and how
45:03
Speaker 3: who's available tonight? And that's what the pitching coach and
45:06
Speaker 3: the bench coach and the manager used to do. Steve Phillips, im, sorry,
45:09
Speaker 3: you must have been the hall in tunnel something, but
45:11
Speaker 3: you were talking to us about a first time manager
45:15
Speaker 3: and the general manager relationship. But with now the analytics
45:18
Speaker 3: realm in baseball, yeah, you know, with the.
45:20
Speaker 1: Analytics there, I think there's you know, it's easier to
45:25
Speaker 1: sell information and to get the manager to be malleable
45:29
Speaker 1: because they all want that first job, right. Everybody wants
45:33
Speaker 1: to be a manager. Everybody wants to be a general manager,
45:35
Speaker 1: and sometimes you're willing to accept a system and a
45:38
Speaker 1: structure that might not feel the most comfortable, but you're
45:41
Speaker 1: willing to put up with it because you loved the
45:43
Speaker 1: job and to be able to get it now.
45:45
Speaker 3: You know.
45:45
Speaker 1: I would say that that the managers that the Mirrors
45:48
Speaker 1: have had, even if they were first time managers, I think,
45:52
Speaker 1: have a different level of credibility. You know. For instance,
45:57
Speaker 1: you know, the Mets said Carlos Mendoza, and you know
46:00
Speaker 1: he wasn't a big league player, uh, and therefore, you
46:04
Speaker 1: know when the front office wants to control him.
46:06
Speaker 3: A little bit.
46:06
Speaker 1: I think it's a little different for Dan Wilson and
46:08
Speaker 1: a Scott certain Weill service and managed before, but uh,
46:12
Speaker 1: you know, walk him on to another's there there, they've
46:14
Speaker 1: had a level of credibility to where I think it
46:16
Speaker 1: is more of an equal relationship in a back and
46:19
Speaker 1: forth with it all. But that being said, I think
46:21
Speaker 1: that that you know, Jerry Depoto and and has a
46:26
Speaker 1: strong opinion about how to win games and how to
46:29
Speaker 1: go about doing it. Uh, And you know, I think
46:32
Speaker 1: that in the long run, you know, he gives Dan
46:34
Speaker 1: Wilson the information that he thinks is necessary, but he
46:38
Speaker 1: left Dan Wilson make the decision. So I interviewed Dan
46:41
Speaker 1: at the winter meetings, and I have to say, like
46:43
Speaker 1: I came away very very uh impressed by his own
46:47
Speaker 1: self evaluation. If you know, I didn't do everything right, say,
46:53
Speaker 1: you know, the information that came from the front office
46:55
Speaker 1: led me to make a decision that wasn't right, he said,
46:57
Speaker 1: I I probably could have done a couple of things
46:59
Speaker 1: different than what I did. And so I feel like
47:03
Speaker 1: that he has enough freedom to within getting that information
47:08
Speaker 1: to make the decisions that he wants to make during
47:11
Speaker 1: the course of the game. Now doesn't mean after the
47:13
Speaker 1: game they won't talk about him. It doesn't mean maybe
47:15
Speaker 1: there won't be some pushback and criticism. But I don't
47:18
Speaker 1: feel like he is one d Kyle Kow to a
47:21
Speaker 1: front office. Nor do I feel like Jerry to Poto
47:24
Speaker 1: is as dominating as maybe some of the other general
47:27
Speaker 1: managers are of I need you to do it this
47:29
Speaker 1: way because I'm in charge and you're just sort of
47:32
Speaker 1: my you know, sitting in that spot for me to
47:36
Speaker 1: implement my plan to manage the game.
47:39
Speaker 3: I think it's indisputable. Steve Phillips said, the piggyback situation
47:44
Speaker 3: that the Mariners are doing somewhat unprecedented probably has to
47:48
Speaker 3: be coming from the top, from Jerry to Poto and
47:50
Speaker 3: or Justin Hollander and the analytics of that, or on
47:53
Speaker 3: with an eye on the trademarket on what to do
47:54
Speaker 3: with Luis Castio in his contractor what do you view
47:58
Speaker 3: of all that from a Major League Baseball perspective? Is
48:02
Speaker 3: this sustainable? Do you keep Luis Castillo and you keep
48:06
Speaker 3: your six starters, or do you eventually, as Jim Bowden
48:10
Speaker 3: told us the other day, you got to put Castile
48:12
Speaker 3: or the least effective starter into the bullpen and go
48:14
Speaker 3: and just go, just do it.
48:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I am okay with piggyback options, you know,
48:22
Speaker 1: for a period of time, and I'm okay with a
48:25
Speaker 1: six man rotation for a period of time. I think
48:28
Speaker 1: the one thing that we all learned from the Dodgers
48:31
Speaker 1: last year that the goal is get to the playoffs.
48:36
Speaker 1: Try to win your division, get to the playoffs in
48:38
Speaker 1: the regular season, and then once you get there, you
48:41
Speaker 1: want to make sure that your horses are ready to
48:43
Speaker 1: be their best in the playoffs. And you know, the Dodgers,
48:46
Speaker 1: therefore they probably could have gunned it to win one
48:49
Speaker 1: hundred games last year, but they managed it in a
48:51
Speaker 1: way that they wanted to make sure that, you know,
48:55
Speaker 1: Okama or that Yamamoto and Sasaki and and and pictures
49:00
Speaker 1: were healthy and ready to go in the postseason. And
49:04
Speaker 1: and I think that that for shealle, I think that's
49:07
Speaker 1: important too. I do and and and so I do
49:11
Speaker 1: you know, look, I think that's one that what you do.
49:14
Speaker 1: There's a way as a general manager, uh, to say,
49:18
Speaker 1: this is what I think we should do. A piggyback
49:21
Speaker 1: situation here where I think we're going to manage this
49:23
Speaker 1: everything right and it's gonna be the best thing for
49:25
Speaker 1: us in the long run.
49:26
Speaker 3: What do you think?
49:27
Speaker 1: And it's kind of hard to have point to disagree, right,
49:30
Speaker 1: So I'm not telling them what to do. I'm telling
49:32
Speaker 1: them what I think, but I'm portraying it in a
49:35
Speaker 1: way of this is really what I think we ought
49:38
Speaker 1: to do. What do you think?
49:39
Speaker 5: Uh?
49:40
Speaker 1: And so you know, it's kind of what our wife
49:42
Speaker 1: tell us every once in a while, is that you know,
49:45
Speaker 1: your opinion matters to me only if it agrees with mine.
49:48
Speaker 3: Uh.
49:49
Speaker 1: And so like I've lived that, and so you know,
49:51
Speaker 1: I think that that, you know, I think that that
49:55
Speaker 1: managing though the regular season with an eye end the postseason,
49:59
Speaker 1: especially your team like Seattle, is an important thing to do.
50:03
Speaker 1: And and I want everybody to be fresh and healthy
50:06
Speaker 1: and at their best. And I'm not a fan of
50:09
Speaker 1: shutting a guy down for two weeks and then starting
50:12
Speaker 1: them up again.
50:13
Speaker 5: Uh.
50:14
Speaker 1: And I stn't like that. I think that you lose
50:16
Speaker 1: the rhythm, and everybody loses the rhythm. I would rather
50:21
Speaker 1: save innings game by game and situation by situation as
50:28
Speaker 1: opposed to a shutdown of anybody. So, you know, it's
50:31
Speaker 1: a you know, we always say that you can't have
50:33
Speaker 1: enough pitching, and then sometimes it's kind of a problem.
50:36
Speaker 1: But the players need to understand that the team is
50:39
Speaker 1: trying to do, you know, the front office and the
50:42
Speaker 1: manager trying to do what they think is the right
50:44
Speaker 1: thing to win as many games as possible and to
50:47
Speaker 1: put them in the best situation to win a World Series.
50:50
Speaker 1: There's no other motive in it. And and so I
50:54
Speaker 1: think players, if they actually have the right mindset, they
50:57
Speaker 1: can manage it and and navigate through any structure that
51:02
Speaker 1: the team puts in place. If they get a little
51:04
Speaker 1: selfish and they get a little like, well, I need
51:06
Speaker 1: this for me and I need that for me. Uh,
51:09
Speaker 1: then it becomes a problem.
51:10
Speaker 7: I know this.
51:12
Speaker 1: The Dodgers go with the six man rotation and nobody's
51:15
Speaker 1: whining there, right, nobody's whining and working through it. They
51:19
Speaker 1: just they find a way because they want they have
51:21
Speaker 1: about Tani and the yellow Moto. They try to protect
51:24
Speaker 1: their arms, and everybody seems okay with it. But in
51:27
Speaker 1: other places, when they're not as good as what the
51:29
Speaker 1: Dodgers have, people have a problem with it.
51:31
Speaker 3: And so I don't get that you say you're in
51:34
Speaker 3: favor of it, Phillips as a piggybaging for a time.
51:37
Speaker 3: For how long is that time? Could they could the
51:39
Speaker 3: Mariners roll with this health willing the rest of the
51:42
Speaker 3: season and then, as you mentioned, produce the rotation for
51:45
Speaker 3: the playoffs.
51:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would rather like, I'm okay doing it
51:49
Speaker 1: for a period of time, but I'd rather get to
51:51
Speaker 1: the six man rotation myself. I would listen, give a
51:55
Speaker 1: guy a second side session between starts to really get
51:59
Speaker 1: a feel for his stuff and to work on the
52:02
Speaker 1: things he needs to work on for his mechanics and
52:04
Speaker 1: to get his mindset right and take an extra day
52:07
Speaker 1: of prep and scouting for who we're going to face
52:10
Speaker 1: this time around, and put our plan together. And so
52:13
Speaker 1: I think the combination of the six man and the
52:16
Speaker 1: piggyback worked. I think depending upon the schedule and you know,
52:20
Speaker 1: the off days and how that balances itself, I think
52:23
Speaker 1: you can move between the two of those. But I
52:27
Speaker 1: think that that, you know, I just think that that
52:30
Speaker 1: there's a way to do it, and you need buy
52:32
Speaker 1: in from the players, and I think that's where I
52:35
Speaker 1: think maybe sales pitch did not go the way it
52:38
Speaker 1: should have right that they didn't sit without everybody, and
52:42
Speaker 1: it's to me it was more of a communication problem
52:45
Speaker 1: than a utilization problem, and they needed to get buy
52:49
Speaker 1: in because it works in other places with bigger names
52:53
Speaker 1: when and they get buy in for it.
52:55
Speaker 5: See PHILIPSMLB Network, Serious XM former colleague of mine, all
52:59
Speaker 5: the way back Bristol, Steve, thanks for joining us again
53:02
Speaker 5: switching off a pitching. A lot is being made of
53:05
Speaker 5: cal Raley and his performance this year. Obviously, Julio has
53:09
Speaker 5: been up and down, but we kind of believe in him.
53:12
Speaker 5: Where do you see cal Raley in his offensive output
53:15
Speaker 5: for the rest of this season?
53:16
Speaker 4: Obviously is a tremendous catcher. Do you think he can
53:19
Speaker 4: get it back at the plate?
53:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at some point you will.
53:23
Speaker 3: I do.
53:23
Speaker 1: I think he'll get back into a rhythm uh and
53:26
Speaker 1: get going again. I think. But I do think that.
53:28
Speaker 1: You know, when you hit that many home runs of
53:30
Speaker 1: the year, there's an expectation of the next year, or
53:33
Speaker 1: let me do it again, or let me do let
53:34
Speaker 1: me get one more, two more, uh and take it
53:37
Speaker 1: even further U. And I remember asking players that you
53:42
Speaker 1: know were cy Young Award winners MVP, like what do
53:45
Speaker 1: you do the next to what do you work on
53:48
Speaker 1: when you were the best? Like you were the best
53:50
Speaker 1: last year? So like what is it that you're working
53:52
Speaker 1: on to try to be better when you are already
53:54
Speaker 1: the best? And they're like, wow, consistency. I can always
53:57
Speaker 1: try to do something a little bit better. He needs
53:59
Speaker 1: to get back a rhythm. He will. Hitting is about confidence,
54:02
Speaker 1: It's about a rhythm. You know, he's he's been beating
54:05
Speaker 1: up a little bit physically, and he's beating up a
54:07
Speaker 1: little bit mentally right now, you know, And when you're
54:09
Speaker 1: struggling and you start trying to hit, it compounds the
54:15
Speaker 1: problem Baseball is not a game to try harder. I mean, yes,
54:19
Speaker 1: when you run the bases and you're you're in the outfield,
54:22
Speaker 1: you're gonna run a ball down of the gap, that
54:24
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Well, it comes to hitting, you've got
54:27
Speaker 1: to relax more, not try harder. It's it's intensity without tension.
54:33
Speaker 1: And it's a tough thing to do because when you
54:35
Speaker 1: look at the scoreboard and you see your batting average
54:37
Speaker 1: starting with a one sixty something or one eighty something,
54:41
Speaker 1: the pressure you put on yourself and you think, let
54:43
Speaker 1: me get three hits with one swing of the back,
54:45
Speaker 1: let me hit three home runs with one that I
54:48
Speaker 1: can hit out of the ballpark. And you put so
54:50
Speaker 1: much pressure on yourself that when you try too hard,
54:53
Speaker 1: you try to hit the ball soon as it comes
54:55
Speaker 1: out of the pitcher's hand, you jump at the plate.
54:57
Speaker 1: You think, Okay, I've got to try to hit this
54:59
Speaker 1: right now. Whenever you think to yourself, I have to
55:02
Speaker 1: get a hit, you're in trouble. And so you've got
55:05
Speaker 1: to go back to that plan and the basics, and
55:07
Speaker 1: it takes some time, and there's a lot of different
55:09
Speaker 1: things you can do. You can give a guy a
55:10
Speaker 1: day off, two days off, three days off, you can,
55:14
Speaker 1: you know, extra hitting, no hitting, move a spot in
55:17
Speaker 1: the lineup. There's a lot of things that managers try
55:19
Speaker 1: to do to trigger that jump start. But at some
55:22
Speaker 1: point he'll get a flare that'll fall in, that'll hit
55:25
Speaker 1: one in the gap, and the next thing you know,
55:27
Speaker 1: he's runs over the wall. He's got a three hit
55:29
Speaker 1: day with a whole run, and then the next day
55:31
Speaker 1: he'll get one and he's going to get back into
55:33
Speaker 1: that rhythm.
55:34
Speaker 4: C Philip's joining us.
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Speaker 5: I have a follow up, not just specific to one player,
55:38
Speaker 5: but the Mariners offensive output as a whole, as they
55:41
Speaker 5: spent fourteen games not hitting more than three runs, and
55:44
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, the Angels come to town. Now,
55:46
Speaker 5: granted it is the Angels. They score six runs in
55:49
Speaker 5: Game one and eight runs in Game two. Now, like
55:52
Speaker 5: I said, it's the Angels, But what kind of confidence,
55:55
Speaker 5: as you talked about the mental side of batting, what
55:57
Speaker 5: kind of confidence can that do to kind of say
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Speaker 5: all the bats into the rest of the season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's interesting is is that you know,
56:06
Speaker 1: you're right, we can look at it like, well, you know,
56:08
Speaker 1: it's the Angels. Everybody hits them. On the other hand
56:11
Speaker 1: as a hitter, just getting hits, just getting on base,
56:15
Speaker 1: just putting runs up on the board starts to make
56:18
Speaker 1: you feel better and it can change the dynamic of
56:21
Speaker 1: the at bats. You know, if you can get a
56:23
Speaker 1: run on the board early, then it's like, Okay, I
56:26
Speaker 1: don't have to get a hit right here. I can
56:28
Speaker 1: just sort of play the situation. I can let you know,
56:31
Speaker 1: read the picture and read my my at bat and
56:34
Speaker 1: go out there and try to produce without trying to
56:36
Speaker 1: do too much. And so it can help, right but
56:39
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to the top of the order.
56:42
Speaker 1: Getting it started early in the game and putting up
56:46
Speaker 1: runs early and trying to get the pictures can feel
56:50
Speaker 1: like they can attack the hitters in the zone because
56:53
Speaker 1: a solo home run is not going to beat you.
56:55
Speaker 1: Then the hitters can start to take more relaxed at bats,
56:58
Speaker 1: and then you start to get into that realm and
57:01
Speaker 1: that confidence level that that can grow and connect from
57:03
Speaker 1: one hit to the next. So so you know, look,
57:06
Speaker 1: it's got to start, and a lot of times I'll
57:09
Speaker 1: tell you it starts with taking walks. That when a
57:12
Speaker 1: lineup doesn't swing, it pitches out of the zone and
57:16
Speaker 1: like a rally ends because the guy chases and pits
57:18
Speaker 1: out of the zone, that bounces in the dirt. Ending's
57:20
Speaker 1: over and it's just such a deflation. But you start
57:24
Speaker 1: to just only swing it straight, don't chase out of
57:28
Speaker 1: the zone, put the ball in play. Have some good
57:31
Speaker 1: situational hitting that when you get an opportunity, you get
57:34
Speaker 1: them on second base, you get them over, and you
57:36
Speaker 1: get them in. Then you start to realize there's a
57:38
Speaker 1: lot of different ways you can score.
57:41
Speaker 3: Steve Phillips orm Major General Manage MLB Network, joining us
57:45
Speaker 3: on his way into Secaucus and MLB Network show tonight
57:48
Speaker 3: Steve Tomorrow will be one month exactly before the trade deadline.
57:52
Speaker 3: What do you think the Tigers do with Terry Scoble
57:55
Speaker 3: any right handed bats the Mariners could potentially get, They've
57:58
Speaker 3: made it known they're in the market for that as
58:01
Speaker 3: well as veteran sets. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So, so right now it's going to be such an
58:06
Speaker 1: odd trade deadline, and it's far too premature to really
58:09
Speaker 1: predict what's going to happen, because you know, I think
58:12
Speaker 1: the last I look, there were thirteen teams in the
58:15
Speaker 1: America League within six and a half games of a
58:18
Speaker 1: playoff spot, and there were twelve teams in the America
58:20
Speaker 1: League or in the National League within six games of
58:23
Speaker 1: a playoff spot, and so like everybody feels like they're
58:26
Speaker 1: in it a little bit right now. And so you know,
58:29
Speaker 1: if you're within three or four games at the deadline,
58:32
Speaker 1: or you know, the several days before the deadline, then
58:35
Speaker 1: you're probably more inclined to be a buyer or stand
58:38
Speaker 1: pat uh. And I think this is a year where
58:40
Speaker 1: we might see teams that are four and a half
58:43
Speaker 1: games out. One will buy, the other will sell, and
58:46
Speaker 1: and it just depends upon how they look at themselves,
58:49
Speaker 1: how they look at the league, where are they in
58:51
Speaker 1: a time and place. So Scoogle, Uh, you know, the
58:54
Speaker 1: Tigers right now are like six and a half games out,
58:57
Speaker 1: and but they're starting to play better. They just swept
59:00
Speaker 1: the Yankees. And although the Yankees are limping around with
59:03
Speaker 1: all the injuries they have right now in food poisoning
59:06
Speaker 1: impacting their team, to the postgame spread the other night
59:09
Speaker 1: must have been really horrible because all the Yankees got sick.
59:13
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that for the Tigers, the
59:16
Speaker 1: ideally they'd like to keep them and make a run
59:18
Speaker 1: for it. But if they're four and a half games
59:21
Speaker 1: out and there's you know, not only that, but five
59:24
Speaker 1: teams in front of them or four teams in front
59:26
Speaker 1: of them. Then I think they might consider moving them.
59:29
Speaker 1: I think they would have to, you know, I just
59:31
Speaker 1: think it was it was, you know, baseball malpractice. When
59:35
Speaker 1: the Angels did not trade O'kani a couple of years ago.
59:38
Speaker 1: It just made no sense to me. One they I
59:41
Speaker 1: didn't think they were going to make the playoffs too,
59:43
Speaker 1: they weren't going to be able to sign Otani for
59:45
Speaker 1: the long term, and Ardie Moreno, the owner, thought well,
59:48
Speaker 1: I'm still making a lot of money every time he pitches,
59:50
Speaker 1: so I'm just going to keep them, and then he
59:52
Speaker 1: ended up getting hurt. But I think that, yeah, for
59:55
Speaker 1: the franchise, I think they have to consider doing something now.
59:58
Speaker 1: I read a report that the Dodgers and Yankees would
1:00:02
Speaker 1: most likely not be in on scooball that they're satisfied
1:00:06
Speaker 1: with their pitching and they're gonna look in a different direction.
1:00:09
Speaker 1: I would think that everybody should at least kick the
1:00:11
Speaker 1: tires on it. But I think Atlanta, the Chicago Cubs
1:00:15
Speaker 1: would definitely be in on on something like that. And
1:00:18
Speaker 1: obviously I know he's from you know, he went to
1:00:20
Speaker 1: the University of Seattle. Although I think the Marators you know,
1:00:23
Speaker 1: probably will focus more on offense, kind of what we've
1:00:26
Speaker 1: seen the last couple of years. Uh, in a right
1:00:28
Speaker 1: handed bat you know, you're looking at the the res
1:00:32
Speaker 1: Hoskins of the world.
1:00:34
Speaker 3: Uh.
1:00:34
Speaker 1: You know, if if San Diego falls out of it,
1:00:37
Speaker 1: You've had ty Franz before. But ty France is actually
1:00:39
Speaker 1: swinging the bat well this year. And but what we
1:00:43
Speaker 1: might also see is teams that are both are buyers
1:00:48
Speaker 1: and practicing arbitrage where they're gonna buy and sell or
1:00:52
Speaker 1: they're gonna rob Peter to pay Paul say listening, you've
1:00:54
Speaker 1: got enough offense, I need pitching. Uh, let me trade.
1:00:58
Speaker 1: I don't know that that those teams, though, won't be
1:01:01
Speaker 1: looking for prospects in return, which is where I think
1:01:03
Speaker 1: Siani probably won't want to give up any of the
1:01:06
Speaker 1: pitching to add offense. They're gonna want to deal prospects,
1:01:08
Speaker 1: and that means they're really going to have to only
1:01:10
Speaker 1: focus on those teams who are out of it or
1:01:13
Speaker 1: are completely going to be sellers and who aren't looking
1:01:15
Speaker 1: to buy.
1:01:17
Speaker 3: Steve Phillips, I know you're a busy man and route
1:01:19
Speaker 3: to your job at Major League Network, Basic Baseball Network.
1:01:22
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
1:01:22
Speaker 1: Thank you.
1:01:23
Speaker 3: Have a great holiday weekend. It's good to catch up
1:01:24
Speaker 3: with again, sir.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: No probada, my pleasure.
1:01:27
Speaker 3: Have a great day. Steve Phillips talking to us from
1:01:30
Speaker 3: New Jersey on his way into MLB Network studios. We
1:01:32
Speaker 3: will be on the here tonight. He says he's all
1:01:35
Speaker 3: for a six man rotation, he's all for pickyback, and
1:01:37
Speaker 3: he says it's important to prepare your pitching staff for
1:01:40
Speaker 3: the postseason, and that's what he thinks the Mariners are doing.
1:01:43
Speaker 3: He said, the Dodgers do it with Yamamoto and Otani,
1:01:45
Speaker 3: and no one says a word. Of course, the Dodgers
1:01:48
Speaker 3: in the World Series every year, have a history of it.
1:01:50
Speaker 4: Really question.
1:01:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a fifty year history that goes back here.
1:01:54
Speaker 3: That's a little bit different than the Dodgers. He also
1:01:57
Speaker 3: mentions the possibility of getting right hand bats, and he
1:02:01
Speaker 3: mentioned Ty France. I was like, oh, we we are
1:02:06
Speaker 3: we gonna get Ty Franz back again.
1:02:08
Speaker 4: That would be interesting, that.
1:02:09
Speaker 3: Would be it would be like anyo smares Redo speaking
1:02:13
Speaker 3: of the Reds are out of it? What about Suarez, why.
1:02:17
Speaker 4: You probably get him pretty expensively.
1:02:20
Speaker 3: He authored one of the greatest moments in Seattle Mayer's
1:02:23
Speaker 3: history last October with that home running, next tra innings
1:02:26
Speaker 3: in the Division Series and against the tray. Who knows,
1:02:31
Speaker 3: we didn't think Swars would come back last time. What
1:02:33
Speaker 3: he did pretty swimmingly as well. Four nine four five
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Speaker 3: one on the takabadats text sign your reaction to that,
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1:02:42
Speaker 3: is full of beans, that the Mariners six man rotation
1:02:44
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Speaker 4: times today America.
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Speaker 3: Yes, like the team that beat Bosnia hers Gevina last
1:04:03
Speaker 3: night two nothing in Santa Clara in the round of
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Speaker 3: thirty two, only the second knockout Winever but flow Velligan,
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Speaker 3: Perhaps they're not. Perhaps the most dynamic player on the
1:04:12
Speaker 3: US team, the one who scored the goal in the
1:04:13
Speaker 3: first half. He will not play because of a red card.
1:04:17
Speaker 3: He sustained. The Vaar review made the referee give a
1:04:22
Speaker 3: red card. Let's put it that way, for a malicious,
1:04:26
Speaker 3: injurious attempt on a tackle. It was accidental, not intent,
1:04:31
Speaker 3: but it bent the ankle of the Bosnian player and
1:04:33
Speaker 3: that is why he will not play because of a
1:04:35
Speaker 3: red card. He will not play money against Belgium. This
1:04:38
Speaker 3: is what Mark Klattenberg, Fox Sports, former FIFA referee and
1:04:42
Speaker 3: World Cup referee who's on the Fox broadcast, had to
1:04:45
Speaker 3: say about the red card decision.
1:04:47
Speaker 7: We need to talk to our very own Fox Sports
1:04:50
Speaker 7: rules analyst, Mark Flattenberg. You're the analyst here, you're the
1:04:53
Speaker 7: expert here. What can you explain to us this foul
1:04:57
Speaker 7: and this red card that was given to him?
1:04:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: When I watched this in real speed, I didn't think
1:05:01
Speaker 8: it was much. I thought it was just a coming
1:05:03
Speaker 8: together a two players. And what you do see is
1:05:07
Speaker 8: the Baligan's challenge does catch his opponent on the back
1:05:10
Speaker 8: of the leg and then when it comes down it
1:05:13
Speaker 8: catches his ankle and that's when the twist of the
1:05:16
Speaker 8: bosnia hits Naguvia player's foot twists underneath him. The problem
1:05:21
Speaker 8: you've got is to reach a criteria of the red card,
1:05:23
Speaker 8: it has to be some speed, there has to be
1:05:25
Speaker 8: some force, and there has.
1:05:26
Speaker 6: To be some malice. This lacked that.
1:05:29
Speaker 8: But what it does have, which is what the element
1:05:31
Speaker 8: of the VRS hiding behind, is it endangers the safety
1:05:35
Speaker 8: of the opponent because if that foot on foot challenge,
1:05:38
Speaker 8: which could have acted and ended with.
1:05:41
Speaker 4: A broken ankle.
1:05:42
Speaker 8: So what they've done is they've looked at the consequence
1:05:44
Speaker 8: of the challenge. However, in my opinion, this didn't endanger
1:05:49
Speaker 8: the safety of opponent. Balagin doesn't even look for the foul.
1:05:52
Speaker 8: It's one of them where it happens in a split second,
1:05:54
Speaker 8: he puts his foot down and catches his opponent. It
1:05:58
Speaker 8: was an accidental challenge and for me, did not reach
1:06:00
Speaker 8: the criteria of a red card, and it shouldn't have
1:06:02
Speaker 8: been a bar in avention.
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Speaker 3: You will probably not be surprised to hear that Mauricio Pocaccino,
1:06:09
Speaker 3: the United States coach, has the same type of opinion.
1:06:17
Speaker 2: For me, never a redcard watching after Onte, and never
1:06:21
Speaker 2: was the intention to step up of the of the player.
1:06:25
Speaker 5: That was.
1:06:27
Speaker 3: A normal election in football. That happened because by accident,
1:06:32
Speaker 3: and it's never intentional. That is why for me, never,
1:06:35
Speaker 3: it's never redcard. So Jason on two of six on
1:06:39
Speaker 3: the to come the tax line four nine four or
1:06:42
Speaker 3: five one ask So they cannot reverse the red card,
1:06:45
Speaker 3: well not typically a Their decision is final unless a
1:06:52
Speaker 3: team wants to in a national soccer program wants to
1:06:55
Speaker 3: challenge it to the FIFA Discipline Committee, which is like
1:07:00
Speaker 3: a tribunal above and with no indication as of today,
1:07:04
Speaker 3: the United States is going to do that. I mean,
1:07:07
Speaker 3: one thing the United States could do is just go
1:07:09
Speaker 3: out and beat Belgium without Bauligun, but it may.
1:07:12
Speaker 4: Be hard to saw the second half one man down
1:07:15
Speaker 4: and without him.
1:07:16
Speaker 3: Correct and they still, as we talk with Andrews, they
1:07:18
Speaker 3: still played with the pedal down and they didn't just
1:07:19
Speaker 3: park the bus, as the soccer term is, and defend
1:07:22
Speaker 3: and push everyone behind the ball. They went out and
1:07:25
Speaker 3: ended up getting a foul call at the top of
1:07:27
Speaker 3: the box that Malik Tillman converted into the goal and
1:07:31
Speaker 3: the eighty second mint on the free kick that clinched
1:07:33
Speaker 3: a win. And we talked about Peppy's probably going to
1:07:36
Speaker 3: start at the top, and there's the striker Balagun not
1:07:40
Speaker 3: in there on Monday against Belgium, and Peppy played really
1:07:44
Speaker 3: well when he played with two at the top when
1:07:47
Speaker 3: Christian Polisic was out for the US match against Australia
1:07:49
Speaker 3: here in Seattle. The US won that one too nothing.
1:07:53
Speaker 3: So this is why you have a twenty six man roster.
1:07:57
Speaker 3: We'll see if that's how Pochettino plays it with Peppi
1:08:00
Speaker 3: again at the top, and I think that's what's going
1:08:01
Speaker 3: to actually happen. Also on the two oh six, the
1:08:05
Speaker 3: game Time ticket app offered zone ticketing for Seahawks and
1:08:08
Speaker 3: Mariners games and they work great.
1:08:10
Speaker 4: Well, that's good to know.
1:08:10
Speaker 3: It is good to know my son uses game Time
1:08:13
Speaker 3: and thinks that's the way to go. On secondary ticket sites,
1:08:17
Speaker 3: we mentioned how FIFA's site in the World Cup in
1:08:20
Speaker 3: general has been rife with ticket scams and tickets promised
1:08:24
Speaker 3: but not delivered. And again, if you don't know the
1:08:28
Speaker 3: ticket situations, FIFA controls them, and even the secondary sites,
1:08:31
Speaker 3: you won't get your tickets from the FIFA app, even
1:08:34
Speaker 3: buying on a secondary site until sometimes an hour before
1:08:37
Speaker 3: the match, which is quite unnerving. If you spent thousands
1:08:40
Speaker 3: of dollars, it's twenty three hundred dollars on the secondary
1:08:42
Speaker 3: site to get in to the US Belgium game on
1:08:45
Speaker 3: Monday five pm at Lumenfield. As of right now, there
1:08:49
Speaker 3: are a few of you who do not agree with
1:08:51
Speaker 3: Steve Phillips. We decided him on the show. The former
1:08:54
Speaker 3: minute general manager two to Fight three says Ty France
1:08:57
Speaker 3: is the slowest individual Major League history. Please for the
1:09:00
Speaker 3: everything Holy No, I would literally take back Dylan Moore
1:09:04
Speaker 3: over him.
1:09:05
Speaker 4: Well, that's a declarative statement.
1:09:07
Speaker 3: Dylan Moore catches strays Yeah right, Duo sex, nothing bad
1:09:12
Speaker 3: happens when we get Suarez. He always unites the team
1:09:16
Speaker 3: in the city. Bring him back again, please, I would
1:09:19
Speaker 3: vote yes, great vibes only.
1:09:25
Speaker 5: I just love that they kept that sign up in
1:09:27
Speaker 5: the clubhouse in his absence, Yes, when he wasn't there,
1:09:30
Speaker 5: like they they need that. I still remember I think
1:09:34
Speaker 5: it was not last year, but the year before, Ian
1:09:37
Speaker 5: telling a story about Gino having a really rough game
1:09:41
Speaker 5: at the plate. He was just he was not there,
1:09:43
Speaker 5: and that Scott Service went over to him and asked
1:09:47
Speaker 5: told him that.
1:09:48
Speaker 4: He needs him to be that guy.
1:09:49
Speaker 5: He needs him to be and it's hard that you know,
1:09:52
Speaker 5: see Phillips referenced the mental side of the game.
1:09:54
Speaker 4: But he went up to him and said, I need
1:09:56
Speaker 4: you to pick this team up.
1:09:57
Speaker 5: And he just went out there and was the heart
1:10:01
Speaker 5: of the clubhouse and they ended up coming back and winning,
1:10:03
Speaker 5: and I thought that was a great story.
1:10:06
Speaker 3: Heyer Haeneo Suarez is banning two oh eight right now
1:10:09
Speaker 3: for the Reds. He has eight home runs two six
1:10:13
Speaker 3: excuse me, his eight home runs on the season twenty
1:10:16
Speaker 3: nine RBI. The Reds are subterranean. Their season's already over,
1:10:21
Speaker 3: and everybody in Cincinnati and Ohio is complaining to hear
1:10:24
Speaker 3: the Reds again out before the July fourth holiday. You
1:10:28
Speaker 3: would think they're gonna be sellers. They are bottom of
1:10:31
Speaker 3: the ANL Central, fourteen and a half games out and
1:10:34
Speaker 3: seven games under five seven games under five hundred puts
1:10:37
Speaker 3: you're writing contention in the AL West. But we mentioned
1:10:40
Speaker 3: other Angels are thirteen fourteen under and they're only six
1:10:44
Speaker 3: back in the division. The Mariners are tied with the
1:10:46
Speaker 3: Texas Rangers atop the American League West. A top is
1:10:49
Speaker 3: a relative term, but they're better than anybody else, even
1:10:52
Speaker 3: though they're just at five hundred. And they played a
1:10:55
Speaker 3: night at the Yard against the Angels to finish that
1:10:58
Speaker 3: splinter three games series, the first two games before the
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Speaker 3: World Cup match yesterday, and then they took yesterday off
1:11:03
Speaker 3: because of the World Cup that was going on downtown.
1:11:05
Speaker 3: But six forty tonight and then the Toronto Blue Jays
1:11:08
Speaker 3: come in for the weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday and
1:11:12
Speaker 3: the annual BC influx of fans there. There are a
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Speaker 3: lot of you on the text line four nine, four
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Speaker 3: y five one and to come a to dodge text line.
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Speaker 3: Who appreciate soccer and what it is done? Some of
1:11:21
Speaker 3: you say you're not even soccer fans that you appreciate it.
1:11:24
Speaker 3: Two six says Anders said it perfectly with an exclamation point.
1:11:27
Speaker 3: I was a non believer, but now I set my
1:11:29
Speaker 3: schedule and make sure I can watch soccer. I don't
1:11:31
Speaker 3: understand it, but it can be exciting. Let's all make
1:11:34
Speaker 3: Seattle look good and just roll with the day. Monday,
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Speaker 3: go Usa.
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Speaker 4: I see.
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Speaker 9: I love that.
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Speaker 4: And you don't need to be a soccer expert.
1:11:41
Speaker 5: You don't need to have played, you don't need to
1:11:43
Speaker 5: have coached, and you don't need to be a super
1:11:44
Speaker 5: Sounders fan either.
1:11:46
Speaker 4: This is a national event and it's right here.
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Speaker 3: So I love it.
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Speaker 5: I love it so much. It reminds me of the Olympics.
1:11:53
Speaker 5: Do I know anything about ice skating?
1:11:55
Speaker 4: True, but I love to watch it.
1:11:58
Speaker 3: You're a Luja expert.
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Speaker 4: Just went, oh, yeah, I ride very fast at first?
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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly? Ride or fall?
1:12:09
Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Just two five three says this just shows how soccer
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Speaker 3: is a joke of a sport as it is currently
1:12:15
Speaker 3: the fact that you have to play with fewer players
1:12:18
Speaker 3: is a joke of a rule any real sport would
1:12:21
Speaker 3: allow an immediate substitute for a player ejection.
1:12:23
Speaker 4: Oh, we have the power play in hockey.
1:12:25
Speaker 3: That's true for two minutes. I remember five.
1:12:27
Speaker 4: I mean still you're playing a man down.
1:12:29
Speaker 3: Two six seven, Miss Yellows. The one on Polistic was
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Speaker 3: blating up the left side, and I remember that that
1:12:33
Speaker 3: should have been a yellow card. There's a hip in leg,
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Speaker 3: check out of bounds, not a red. Was zero and
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Speaker 3: ten on Balligan. That free kick goal by Tilman was elite,
1:12:44
Speaker 3: not getting enough talk. That bought was barely That wall
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Speaker 3: for Bosni was barely seven yards. Another botch job by Klaus.
1:12:53
Speaker 3: The one minute foul in Senegal? What was that var
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Speaker 3: Is meant for? What was that would be was meant for?
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Speaker 3: I agree, I don't think that's what var was meant for.
1:13:03
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm misreading that. The one hundred and twenty
1:13:06
Speaker 3: minute fouland Senegal was what var Is meant for. He
1:13:09
Speaker 3: completely filed him, prevented him from tackling the ball, kicking
1:13:12
Speaker 3: the ball to goal where I just hammed that all up, Marcus.
1:13:16
Speaker 3: The two O six is the var crew had the
1:13:18
Speaker 3: underdog saw it as a chance to make some money.
1:13:21
Speaker 3: I hope that's not true. Ian Fornessa's outside because he
1:13:24
Speaker 3: has a chance to make some money by working today
1:13:26
Speaker 3: before the holiday, Mayor Maple Valley, I joined us tels
1:13:28
Speaker 3: What's on his show twelve to three on ninety three
1:13:30
Speaker 3: point three KJRFM. Welcome back Greg Bell and just no
1:13:51
Speaker 3: knack and tire with you happy Fourth of July weekend
1:13:55
Speaker 3: and Mayor Maple Value Ian Furness is at his second home,
1:13:58
Speaker 3: maybe third home, crackinghead Quarters thirty two bar and grill
1:14:01
Speaker 3: attached to it of a northgate at the King County
1:14:04
Speaker 3: ice Plex. Hello, sir, Hello, are you everything's well? Thank you?
1:14:08
Speaker 3: After another crazy World Cup day yesterday?
1:14:11
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good time. So we get another year?
1:14:16
Speaker 9: Well we had the other game scheduled here. Now we
1:14:17
Speaker 9: get another game scheduled with the USA, which will be fun, hopefully.
1:14:21
Speaker 9: Have we heard anything from sixteen hundred Pennsylvania is not coming?
1:14:26
Speaker 3: The Seattle Times reported this morning that he or JD.
1:14:29
Speaker 3: Vans are not coming, thank god, thank god.
1:14:33
Speaker 9: And that's not a political statement. Before all you Orange
1:14:35
Speaker 9: fans get mad at me for Orange man, it's not
1:14:38
Speaker 9: that I just was thinking, you know, like what happened
1:14:42
Speaker 9: at Madison Square Garden yep, where they had to like,
1:14:45
Speaker 9: because I'll be honest with you, I'm not looking forward
1:14:49
Speaker 9: to going down there on Monday. I am dreading it
1:14:52
Speaker 9: with every five ur Come on, well, I just don't
1:14:54
Speaker 9: want to be there. I want to watch the game,
1:14:56
Speaker 9: but I don't want to be there because I don't know.
1:14:57
Speaker 9: I don't I don't know how to get there. Anybody
1:14:58
Speaker 9: gonna four nine four to five one and let me
1:15:00
Speaker 9: know how to get there. From Maple Valley. I could
1:15:06
Speaker 9: get there, I just can't get out.
1:15:08
Speaker 3: Driving in Park along the road will be closed from
1:15:12
Speaker 3: Edgar Martinez Way south, First Avenue North. First Avenue South
1:15:16
Speaker 3: will be above Edgar Martina's Way because it's go go
1:15:20
Speaker 3: to Occidental Park along the street like I did yesterday
1:15:22
Speaker 3: for free. Okay, that's that i'd recommend. All right, what's
1:15:27
Speaker 3: the NHL free agency situation and the Kraken gonna sign
1:15:30
Speaker 3: anyone of big import? You think?
1:15:32
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I don't think that that. When we've
1:15:36
Speaker 9: talked about this a lot, Greg that the free agent
1:15:38
Speaker 9: list was awful yep, Like James Schwartz is like, by
1:15:42
Speaker 9: all accounts, like the eleventh or twelfth best player on
1:15:45
Speaker 9: the free agent list. And I'll be honest with you,
1:15:49
Speaker 9: he doesn't have a spot on this now. He signed
1:15:51
Speaker 9: obviously with I don't He signed for more money than
1:15:55
Speaker 9: I could ever fathom for a guy that's been off
1:15:57
Speaker 9: injured and is declining. But like, if that's who is
1:16:02
Speaker 9: the guy at number ten or eleven on your list,
1:16:05
Speaker 9: A guy that wouldn't today and the lineup that they
1:16:07
Speaker 9: have would not really have a spot, Like with Samaskevitch
1:16:11
Speaker 9: here development of some couple of young guys, he wouldn't
1:16:14
Speaker 9: have a spot. That's how bad the free agent class
1:16:16
Speaker 9: this year. The top guys are defensemen, and they're pretty
1:16:18
Speaker 9: well set at that position, at least at this level.
1:16:22
Speaker 9: If and Botterrel's said it all along, if they're going
1:16:24
Speaker 9: to improve this team immediately, it's got to be via trade.
1:16:29
Speaker 9: So we'll see if he's able to work something out
1:16:31
Speaker 9: in the next few days. A lot of stuff happens
1:16:34
Speaker 9: the NHL sort of almost in the NFL, there's that
1:16:36
Speaker 9: second wave, you know, and there could be trades coming
1:16:39
Speaker 9: up and all those things.
1:16:40
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
1:16:40
Speaker 9: But you know, I would I'd make the argument that
1:16:43
Speaker 9: they're slightly better than they were a year ago. Right
1:16:46
Speaker 9: now with Samuth Skevitch coming in and McMahon for the
1:16:49
Speaker 9: full season. But obviously that was a team that fell
1:16:53
Speaker 9: short of the playoffs.
1:16:54
Speaker 3: So we'll see. There's a three year deal that Jayden
1:16:57
Speaker 3: swore Toda, age thirty four, signed with the Colorado Avalanche.
1:17:00
Speaker 3: We're three point twenty five million. It's insane. It's insane
1:17:03
Speaker 3: a year. It's not total a year. He's getting three
1:17:06
Speaker 3: point two five million year. It's my Ryan Clark, but
1:17:08
Speaker 3: he reported that, so.
1:17:10
Speaker 9: Then and then and then what alexiak got a guy
1:17:13
Speaker 9: that was a healthy scratch for Seattle Dan his last
1:17:15
Speaker 9: season five mil. Really, But in Vancouver's defense, they're in
1:17:22
Speaker 9: a situation that half of baseball could find himself in
1:17:26
Speaker 9: next year. Yes, they're below the basement right now, they're
1:17:30
Speaker 9: below the floor, so they have to sign guys and
1:17:33
Speaker 9: pay guys because they're they're below and if they trade
1:17:36
Speaker 9: Peterson then they're going to be even further. So they
1:17:39
Speaker 9: that one made sense only from a financial standpoint, and
1:17:41
Speaker 9: alexiakud for him, he benefits from Vancouver needed to spend money.
1:17:44
Speaker 9: So because baseball will be funny next year, great, I'm
1:17:47
Speaker 9: sure you've done that. Exercises, there's only fifth there's fifteen
1:17:50
Speaker 9: teams above the what will be themposed floor in base
1:17:54
Speaker 9: in MLB next year, and Seattle is one of those teams,
1:17:57
Speaker 9: by the way, So that's that that's a that's a
1:18:01
Speaker 9: problem if you got all of a sudden, you gotta
1:18:02
Speaker 9: spend money that you don't want to spend just to
1:18:04
Speaker 9: get to the basement or the floor, whatever you want
1:18:05
Speaker 9: to call it. We're I mean, obviously the story right
1:18:10
Speaker 9: the World Cup, the FIFA is crooked. There's no doubt
1:18:14
Speaker 9: about that. That was, you know, a little known fact.
1:18:17
Speaker 9: I got my referees license for soccer at the age
1:18:20
Speaker 9: of fourteen, So I'm there is in no world, especially
1:18:27
Speaker 9: with how it was executed, because that was wrong. How
1:18:29
Speaker 9: they executed it is out a red car. Nope, it's
1:18:32
Speaker 9: just but Seattle, Seattle, keep seeing Seattle. Seattle survives because
1:18:36
Speaker 9: we get the US bound.
1:18:37
Speaker 3: Yes, so that's a good thing.
1:18:39
Speaker 5: Uh.
1:18:39
Speaker 9: And I know I'm in the minority, buddy, I know
1:18:41
Speaker 9: I'm in the minority. I love I was, so I'm
1:18:44
Speaker 9: loving every second of this. I'm just so old now.
1:18:46
Speaker 9: I don't want to be around those big crowds. But
1:18:49
Speaker 9: for those that are, I mean, I can't even fathom
1:18:51
Speaker 9: what it's going to be like on Monday.
1:18:53
Speaker 3: It's just what a great deal.
1:18:54
Speaker 9: But we'll talk about that. Obviously, I think the big
1:18:56
Speaker 9: thing and I know you had Andrews on earlier, Luily,
1:18:57
Speaker 9: I got the produced. We'll talk about who they replaced
1:18:59
Speaker 9: him with, yep on Monday, because that's the key. This
1:19:03
Speaker 9: team should get to the quarterfinals. So we'll talk about that,
1:19:06
Speaker 9: the last two first round picks for the Crack and
1:19:08
Speaker 9: we'll join us around twelve twenty or twelve thirty today
1:19:11
Speaker 9: Chase Reed and Jcobrien. We'll do a little interview with
1:19:14
Speaker 9: them together. You know, Sarah's talking all things baseball as
1:19:17
Speaker 9: the ms are back and act.
1:19:18
Speaker 3: He's making national news with his theories about the dragon baseball,
1:19:22
Speaker 3: the actual baseball. Yeah yeah, I love that, Huns.
1:19:24
Speaker 9: We'll get to that, and then we'll get Daniel and Neil.
1:19:26
Speaker 9: Since we're off tomorrow, daniel' neill join us again on Thursday,
1:19:29
Speaker 9: two o'clock today.
1:19:29
Speaker 3: So thank you, sir. Happy have Fourth of July weekend
1:19:32
Speaker 3: to you and family. Yeah, thank you. H Anderson Hurst
1:19:35
Speaker 3: and Ian Farnessa up from twelve until three, Greg Bell
1:19:38
Speaker 3: The News Tribune and Justin mcindoll. Thanks for listening. I
1:19:41
Speaker 3: have a great weekend. I'm heading to Vancouver to see
1:19:43
Speaker 3: how they do the World Cup. I'll be in the
1:19:44
Speaker 3: Stadium in BC Place tonight for Switzerland and Algeria and
1:19:47
Speaker 3: the knockout stage in Vancouver. Ian and Andrews are up
1:19:50
Speaker 3: next on ninety three point three KJRFM