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- 0:00Welcome back to the Animal Advocate. Thanks for being here.
- 0:04I don't know about you, but my social media feed has been full of
- 0:08pictures of Jane Goodall since her passing. I had no
- 0:12idea how many of my friends and acquaintances had actually met her.
- 0:16We've all been thinking about how we can best carry
- 0:20on her legacy, but I've been thinking just as much about
- 0:23what kind of an animal and environmental advocate she was
- 0:27and what we can all learn from that. Especially after our last
- 0:31episode where we discussed the fact that most people who speak out on
- 0:35behalf of animals face criticism and sometimes belittling
- 0:39or even retaliation. So I thought we'd do an
- 0:42episode on five Lessons we can draw from one of the greatest
- 0:46animal advocates who has ever lived, Jane Goodall.
- 0:50I always tell my students that as animal advocates, you need to
- 0:54overcome the presumption on the part of a lot of people that you're a nut.
- 0:58No one did more to show the world that an animal advocate could be a
- 1:02scientist and emphatically the opposite of a nut than Dr.
- 1:05Jane Goodall. She changed how the world sees animal
- 1:09and environmental advocates, and she did it with grace,
- 1:13determination, and an unwavering commitment to speaking up
- 1:16for those without voices. Welcome to the
- 1:20Animal Advocate, where we arm animal lovers with the
- 1:23information and inspiration you need to to become effective
- 1:27advocates. I'm your host, Penny Ellison, and I've taught
- 1:31animal law and advocacy at the University of Pennsylvania since
- 1:342006. If you've ever thought someone
- 1:38should do something about that, I'm here to guide you on your
- 1:42journey to being that someone. You can find us on
- 1:46the web@animaladvocacyacademy.com
- 1:49and that's where you'll find show notes and resources, and you can
- 1:53send us your comments on episodes and ideas for topics you'd like
- 1:57to hear on future shows. So onto today's
- 2:01topic. So here we go with five Lessons
- 2:04from Jane. Stay happy
- 2:08and positive. Everyone who advocates for animals
- 2:12does it because they witness some level of suffering that they want to
- 2:15stop. Whether it's wild animals losing habitat or dying
- 2:19at the hands of poachers, sows cramped into spaces only
- 2:23slightly larger than their bodies for their whole lives. Fur
- 2:27farms where animals spend their entire existence in wire cages,
- 2:30or even people forced to give up pets because they can't find housing or
- 2:34afford vet care, it can wear on the soul to witness
- 2:38that kind of suffering. Animal advocates, including and especially
- 2:42Jane Goodall, don't keep their heads in the sand. They act
- 2:46as witnesses to so much of the suffering that many people prefer to
- 2:49turn a blind eye to. That's a lot to deal with.
- 2:53And the weight of it can pull you down, make you angry, and
- 2:57even make you cynical. And yet, whenever I envision Jane
- 3:01Goodall, I see a smile. This woman spent
- 3:05decades witnessing habitat destruction, poaching,
- 3:08animal cruelty, and environmental devastation.
- 3:12She saw things that would break most people's hearts, and yet
- 3:16she radiated joy and hope wherever she went.
- 3:20This wasn't naive optimism or willful ignorance.
- 3:24Jane understood the problems better than almost anyone. But she
- 3:28also understood something that many advocates forget. People
- 3:31are drawn to hope, not despair. They're inspired by
- 3:35possibility, not defeated by doom.
- 3:39When you're advocating for animals, your energy matters.
- 3:43If you come across as angry, bitter, or judgmental,
- 3:47people shut down. They stop listening. But
- 3:51if you can maintain that spark of hope, that genuine belief that
- 3:55change is possible, you invite people into the work
- 3:58rather than pushing them away. I'm not saying you
- 4:02should fake happiness or pretend everything's fine. What I'm
- 4:06saying is that even while acknowledging the difficult realities,
- 4:10you can choose to focus on solutions rather than just
- 4:13problems. You can celebrate the wins, however small. And
- 4:17you can recognize progress, even though there's still a long way to go.
- 4:22Jane Goodall showed us that you can be both realistic about the challenges
- 4:25and optimistic about the future. You can
- 4:29witness suffering without letting it consume you.
- 4:33And you can fight for change without losing your sense of humor in the
- 4:36process. Lesson number
- 4:40People are inherently self interested.
- 4:44Now, that might sound cynical, but it's actually one of the most practical pieces of
- 4:48advocacy advice I can give you. And Jane Goodall understood this
- 4:52better than almost anyone. When Jane talked about things
- 4:55like saving forests, she didn't just talk about the
- 4:59chimpanzees. She talked about how deforestation
- 5:02affects local communities, how it leads to soil erosion,
- 5:06water contamination, and economic instability.
- 5:10She talked about how protecting wildlife habitats also protects
- 5:14human livelihoods. When she advocated for ending
- 5:18animal testing, she didn't just focus on the suffering of the animals.
- 5:21She talked about how alternative methods could be more reliable, more cost
- 5:25effective, and produce better scientific results.
- 5:29This wasn't manipulation. This was strategic communication.
- 5:33Jane understood that most people care primarily
- 5:37about their own lives and maybe, if you're lucky, their own
- 5:41communities. That's not a character flaw. It's just human
- 5:44nature. So instead of fighting against that reality and
- 5:48begging people to care, she worked with it.
- 5:52When you're advocating for animals, ask yourself, how does this
- 5:56issue affect people? What are the human benefits of
- 5:59the change you're proposing? How can you frame your
- 6:03message in a way that resonates with your audience's values and
- 6:07concerns. Maybe you're advocating for better
- 6:10animal shelter policies. Don't just talk about the
- 6:14animals suffering. Talk about public health risks, community
- 6:18safety, maybe property values and taxpayer
- 6:21costs. If they're relevant, give people multiple reasons to
- 6:25care, not just the moral argument.
- 6:29Maybe you're trying to get someone to adopt a dog instead of buying from a
- 6:32breeder. Yes, talk about the animals who need homes, how long
- 6:36they've been waiting in the shelters. But also talk about the money
- 6:39they'll save, the knowledge they can get about this particular dog,
- 6:43especially if they've been living in a foster home, and the joy of giving
- 6:47a second chance. That doesn't mean abandoning your ethical
- 6:51arguments. It means supplementing them with practical
- 6:54ones. Because at the end of the day, if you want to create change,
- 6:58you need people on your side. And people are more likely to
- 7:02join your side when they see how it benefits them.
- 7:07Lesson number three Work with young people.
- 7:11If you ask Jane Goodall what gave her the most hope for the future,
- 7:15she would tell you about Roots Shoots, the youth program she founded.
- 7:19Roots Shoots engages young people around the world in
- 7:22environmental and humanitarian action. The program
- 7:26is built on the idea that every individual matters. Every
- 7:29individual has a role to play, and every individual,
- 7:33even kids, can make a difference. And Jane
- 7:37totally believed this with every fiber of her being.
- 7:40She spent enormous amounts of time working with children and young
- 7:44adults. She visited schools, spoke at universities,
- 7:48and mentored young activists. And she did this not as a sideline
- 7:51to her real work, but as one of her core priorities,
- 7:55because Jane understood something that many advocates overlook.
- 7:59If you want lasting change, you need to invest in the next generation.
- 8:04Adults can be set in their ways. I'm sure you know
- 8:08they've developed habits, beliefs, and behaviors that can be
- 8:12hard to change. But young people are still forming their
- 8:15worldview. They're asking questions, challenging
- 8:19assumptions, and imagining different possibilities
- 8:22they haven't yet settled on. Well, this is just the way things are. When
- 8:26you teach a child compassion for animals, you're not just affecting one
- 8:30person. You're potentially affecting everyone. That child will
- 8:33influence throughout their lifetime. Every pet they'll own,
- 8:37every vote they'll cast, every conversation they'll have,
- 8:41and every child they'll raise. Jane also recognized
- 8:45that young people bring energy, creativity, and fresh perspectives
- 8:48to advocacy work. They're not constrained by the way things
- 8:52have always been done. They're willing to try new approaches,
- 8:56use new technologies, and push boundaries in ways
- 8:59that older generations might not. So what does this mean for
- 9:03you as an advocate? Get involved with youth programs,
- 9:07volunteer at schools, mentor young activists,
- 9:10create educational materials designed for them.
- 9:14And when you work with young people, treat them as genuine
- 9:18partners in the work, not just passive recipients of your
- 9:21wisdom. Listen to their ideas, respect their
- 9:25perspectives, and give them opportunities to lead.
- 9:29Jane Goodall showed us that investing in young people isn't just about the future,
- 9:33it's about the present. Because young people are creating change right
- 9:36now, and they'll continue creating change long after we're
- 9:40gone. Lesson number four. Everything
- 9:43and everyone is interconnected. One of
- 9:47Jane's most profound insights was understanding the interconnectedness
- 9:51of all life. She didn't just study chimpanzees in
- 9:54isolation. She understood them as part of an ecosystem.
- 9:59And she didn't just advocate for wildlife. She recognized how
- 10:02environmental issues connect to poverty, education,
- 10:06health, and human rights. This holistic
- 10:10view shaped everything about her advocacy. She
- 10:13understood that you can't protect chimpanzees without protecting their
- 10:17habitat. You can't protect habitat
- 10:21without addressing the needs of local communities. You can't
- 10:25address poverty without considering education.
- 10:29You can't address any of these issues without considering the
- 10:33others. This lesson is an important one for animal advocates
- 10:37because I think too often we silo our work and we talk just
- 10:40about the animals. We focus narrowly on one issue
- 10:44without seeing how it connects to everything else. But when you
- 10:48start to see the connections, your advocacy becomes more effective, and
- 10:52that's what it's all about. You understand that animal welfare issues are
- 10:56also housing issues, economic issues, public health issues,
- 11:00and social justice issues. Take pet
- 11:03surrenders at shelters. On the surface, that seems like a
- 11:07simple animal welfare problem. But when you look closer,
- 11:11you see connections to housing, discrimination against pet owners,
- 11:14lack of access to affordable veterinary care, economic
- 11:18inequality, domestic violence, mental health
- 11:22crises, and more. Understanding all these
- 11:25connections doesn't just make you a better advocate. It opens up
- 11:29new strategies for change. Instead of just trying to get people
- 11:32to adopt more animals, we can work on affordable housing policies,
- 11:37veterinary care access, and domestic violence services that
- 11:40allow pets to come along. Jane also understood the
- 11:44connection between how we treat animals and how we treat each other.
- 11:48She saw animal welfare not as separate from human welfare,
- 11:52but as fundamentally linked to it. Societies that show
- 11:55compassion for animals tend to show more compassion for
- 11:59vulnerable humans. And violence toward animals often
- 12:03accompanies violence toward people. This
- 12:06interconnected view also helps with coalition building.
- 12:10When you understand how your issue connects to others,
- 12:13you can find natural allies in unexpected places.
- 12:18Environmental groups, public health organizations, social justice
- 12:21movements, they're all potential partners because our issues
- 12:25overlap. Lesson number five.
- 12:28Practice Tolerance and collaboration. Jane worked with
- 12:32people who didn't share all her values. And she did it without
- 12:35compromising her own principles. Jane felt
- 12:39about animals in a way that made it impossible for her to reconcile killing and
- 12:43eating them. She was a vegetarian and later a vegan,
- 12:47but that didn't mean she refused to collaborate with people who made different
- 12:50choices. She worked with Senator Robert Byrd from West Virginia,
- 12:54not exactly someone you'd expect to see partnering with an animal rights
- 12:57advocate. But she wanted to try to bring oversight and
- 13:01humanity to the slaughter process. And so did he.
- 13:05She didn't say, I won't work with you unless you stop eating meat. She
- 13:08said, let's work together on the changes we can agree on.
- 13:12She also spoke at corporate forums and praised companies that took even small
- 13:16steps toward reducing plastic or investing in habitat restoration.
- 13:21Critics accused her of being co opted of giving these
- 13:24corporations cover to continue their harmful practices. And
- 13:28I concede that argument because I've made it about some
- 13:31compromises. But she countered that engagement
- 13:35was more useful than denunciation. She believed that if
- 13:39you don't talk to people you disagree with, how can you expect them to change?
- 13:44I think that thought is more true today than maybe ever in
- 13:47human history. This is a lesson that the animal advocacy
- 13:51movement desperately needs to hear. Too often we engage in
- 13:55what some people call purity politics. We refuse
- 13:59to work with anyone who doesn't share our exact beliefs. We
- 14:02criticize fellow advocates for not being radical enough or
- 14:06for being too radical. We create litmus tests that
- 14:10exclude potential allies. But Jane understood that
- 14:13meaningful change requires building coalitions, even with people you
- 14:17disagree with. She understood that you can work with someone on one
- 14:20issue and disagree with them on others. This
- 14:24doesn't mean compromising your values or staying silent about things that
- 14:28matter to you. Jane certainly didn't do that. When
- 14:32she was invited to represent the environment at the Salt Lake City Olympics
- 14:36but learned that a rodeo would be held there, she declined.
- 14:40The Olympic committee organizers argued having American and
- 14:44Canadian cowboys compete in rodeo events would demonstrate
- 14:48mutual understanding, tolerance and brotherhood.
- 14:52But she knew that it would stress the animals and potentially
- 14:56harm them just for entertainment. Jane wouldn't lend her
- 15:00name and presence to something that contradicted her values.
- 15:04But declining to participate in something is different from refusing to work with
- 15:07anyone who disagrees with you. Jane drew boundaries
- 15:11around her own actions while remaining open to working with a broad
- 15:15range of partners on shared goals. One of my
- 15:18favorite quotes that I use every year in class is from Desmond Tutu.
- 15:22It goes like this. If you're neutral in situations of
- 15:26injustice. You've chosen the side of the oppressor. If
- 15:30an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say
- 15:33you're neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your
- 15:36neutrality. Jane Goodall was never neutral
- 15:40when animals were suffering, but she was strategic about when to draw
- 15:44hard lines and and when to find common ground. She
- 15:48understood that sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good,
- 15:52that holding out for ideal solutions can mean animals continue
- 15:55to suffer while we wait. This is
- 15:59a balancing act that every advocate needs to figure out for themselves.
- 16:04Where are your non negotiables? Where can you be flexible?
- 16:08And who can you work with despite disagreements? And when
- 16:12do you need to say no? There is no
- 16:15universal answer to these questions. But Jane's example
- 16:19shows us that you can maintain your integrity while being
- 16:22pragmatic. You can refuse to participate in things that violate your
- 16:26values while still working alongside people who make different
- 16:30choices. Let me leave you with an important lesson from
- 16:33Jane, something she repeatedly said throughout her life.
- 16:37Everyone can do something, and just as important,
- 16:42you can't do it all. Jane Goodall couldn't save every
- 16:46chimpanzee, protect every forest, or solve every
- 16:49environmental problem. She focused her energy where she could make
- 16:53the most difference, and she inspired others to focus their energy
- 16:57where they could make a difference. She said, and I love this.
- 17:01I'm just trying to change attitudes about animals, and it's very simple,
- 17:05really. I just want to change the world a little.
- 17:09I think this gives us permission to be strategic with our advocacy.
- 17:13You don't have to work on every issue or fight every battle.
- 17:17Pick the areas where your skills, resources, and passions
- 17:20align and do that work really well
- 17:24and trust that others are working on the issues that you care
- 17:28about but you can't address right now. You
- 17:31don't have to do everything, but you do have to do something.
- 17:36Jane spent decades bearing witness to animal suffering and refusing
- 17:39to be silent about it. She spoke up even when it was
- 17:43uncomfortable, even when it cost her something, and even when people
- 17:47disagreed. So find your something.
- 17:51Maybe it's volunteering at your local shelter. Maybe it's advocating
- 17:54to change laws. I'm here to help you with that. Maybe it's
- 17:58educating others. We can work on that together, too.
- 18:02Whatever it is, do it with joy, hope, and
- 18:06determination like Jane Goodall modeled for all of us. Stay
- 18:09positive even when the work is hard. Connect your message to
- 18:13what matters to your audience. Invest in young people.
- 18:18Understand how your issue connects to everything else, and
- 18:21build coalitions even with people who don't share your values.
- 18:26Jane Goodall showed us that one person really can make a difference,
- 18:29but she also showed us that we didn't have to do it alone, and
- 18:33we don't have to do absolutely everything. For
- 18:37today's Be the Change Action, I want you to pick just one of
- 18:41these five lessons and think about how you can apply it in your
- 18:44advocacy work. Maybe you'll reach out to a youth
- 18:47organization to offer your time or expertise. Maybe you'll
- 18:51think about how to reframe one of your advocacy messages to connect
- 18:55with people's natural self interest. Maybe you'll reach
- 18:59out to someone you've disagreed with and explore whether there's common ground for
- 19:02collaboration. Whatever you choose, make it specific
- 19:06and doable. Jane didn't change the world in a day,
- 19:09and neither will you. But she did change it
- 19:13just a little, and so can you.
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