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Inside The OIG Interview: The Testimony Of The Electrical Engineer From MCC (Part 2) (4/26/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with the OIG interview with the
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  electrical engineer from MCC Question, did you know at that
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  point that the shoe cameras weren't recording? Answer at that
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  point towards the end of the day. I did. I
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  believe I did know at the end of the day.
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  Question on August ninth during the day. Answer, Yeah, And
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  I called Signet. That's my point of contact I usually
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  anytime I have a problem or something's not working. Because
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  I wasn't really familiar with the whole system I had,
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  like a newer system. It kind of worked the same
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  as far as the software side goes. As far as
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  like the hardware, it was different. So I would always
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  have to call them for like tech support, like, Okay,
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  I'm having a problem today, can you document it? You know,
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  it builds our case when I have to submit stuff
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  to a regional office me just saying it's not going
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  to work, that's not going to fly, And usually they
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  helped me troubleshoot through the whole process of what I
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  should have to do. ABC. Okay, take this drive out,
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  put that drive in, and like previously, probably six months
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  before that, we actually had a motherboard which was my
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  main computer like go out and I had to actually
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  replace that and they had to walk me through it
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  over the phone. I went to scrounge round parts from
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  another institution to get it working. I know, I'm giving
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  you like a lot of stuff. Question, So let's step back.
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  So you said it wasn't working. There was possibly a
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  work order already created, right answer? Yeah, possibly yes. Question
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  who approved the work order? Answer? That has to go
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  through my general foreman or facility manager, whoever is in charge.
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  Question do you think do you recall if this was
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  before Epstein's death or after? Answer? This was probably before
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  Epstein's death. There was a few work orders before Epstein's death.
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  Question and if these work orders are these orders still
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  maintained a copy anywhere? Answer? They should be in the
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  facilities folder somewhere. Question who would have access to that now?
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  Answer on my facility manager, she'll know where they're at,
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  and the engineering tech would pretty much well, I'm not
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  saying engineering tech, but the facility manager should know if
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  those records are kept or if they're maintained. Question and
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  when this work order was created. This work order specifically
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  addressed the fact that the shoe cameras weren't recording. Answer, No,
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  all of the cameras. It's not going to just be shoe.
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  It's going to be all the cameras. Question, all the
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  indiscernible cameras. Answer yeah, question Okay. So at that point,
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  how come some cameras recorded? He said, there is redundancy,
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  So there's either going to be a drive or be drive. Answer, yeah, question,
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  how come some are recorded? Answer? Okay. Oh there is
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  going to be another problem too. Okay, So there's an
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  A side and a B side, and it's supposed to
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  be redundant, but it's not redundant because it's not really
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  redundant when one side goes bad. So it just knows
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  to record channels. Let's say one through fifty is on
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  this side and fifty one through one hundred is on
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  this side. Everything is working, it doesn't work. Okay, I
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  can take over for this one because it's not working.
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  But as soon as that one goes, I can kind
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  of record over here. As soon as the second drive goes,
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  I have to just record what I'm recording. I can
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  no longer help out the other drives. Question Okay, so
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  some channels inside the shoe were recording on one drive.
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  Answer yeah, question some were on the other drive? Answer yeah.
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  Question so the ones which drive was the one that
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  stopped recording altogether? Answer? I believe it was the first drive,
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  So like the A side, like the first because the
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  shoe cameras are on the first they're like the first
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  fifty cameras, well, not the whole fifty, but they're on
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  that side in this string. Question but some were also
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  on the B side. Answer yeah, on the B side,
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  and that's just because they wired it the way they
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  wired it. Question Okay, so I'm going to show you
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  a map of the shoe. I know this is kind
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  of old. I'm not sure if this is still exactly
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  how it is. Answer you have the updated one right
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  in front of them. Question updated one. Okay. I kind
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  of wanted you to mark off where the cameras were
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  right here on the big one, so I'll give you both.
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  See if let's point it over here, you recognize this
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  where this is? Answer yeah, that's the special housing unit.
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  Question is this how many levels are there? Answer? There's
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  an upper tier and a bottom tier. Question the one
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  you're looking at. Is that upper tier or is that
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  lower tier? Answer? This is nine south upper tier. Yeah,
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  question upper tier? Can you point it out? Answer approximately,
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  I know where all the cameras are. So at the
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  end of each tier there's a camera here. Question, So
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  which tier is at? Answer a G tier question you
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  said at the end of each tier. Answer each tier
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  there's one camera looking this way, looking to the front
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  of the grill. This is the grill. Question so G tier,
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  J tier answer J tier, el tier and M should
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  be question in that camera, what would it have shown? Answer?
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  It would just show whoever's coming onto the tier to
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  do rounds or whatever they're doing on the tier. Question okay,
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  and as per your recollection on August ninth, were those
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  cameras actually working running? Answer the cameras were working the recording.
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  No question, okay, we're else in the shoe or the cameras.
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  Answer also, there's one in the common area, I think. Okay,
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  So you have one over here, like looking at the
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  common area, and then you have another two like looking
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  this way. Question so you're appointing to the right of
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  the el tier. Answer yeah, question to the right of
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  the el tier, and what would oversee he gets cut
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  off by the engineer. Like the common area this way? Yeah, yeah.
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  Question and with that, also what's over there? Answer that's
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  the officer station. Question use this and just have a
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  mark on there, so if you could, these numbers don't
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  match up, but the tier the letters should be the same.
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  Answer here, so this is L tier, M tier is
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  the top tier. Question so can you mark maybe like
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  a circle and then point like an arrow toward the
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  direction that it would be recording, that it would be viewing.
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  Answer oh h question, and this is on August ninth
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  and tenth that we're talking about. Answer just okay, So
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  question so if you said at the end of each tier,
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  just where they were actually just maybe you can put
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  like a star or whatever you decide to make for
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  the camera and then like an arrow pointing in the
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  direction that they would be recording. Answer okay, so indiscernible.
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  Second one indiscernible. The common area. This is h I
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  believe they're on top of this tier. There's a camera
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  over here looking this way. Question is that the upper
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  tier or the lower tier? Answer? Upper tier. There's a
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  camera on the upper tier on the outside of the
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  upper tier looking that way. Question is that the one
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  that's like outside of ten south. Answer, yeah, question do
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  you mind on that camera that you just said that's
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  outside of ten south? Can you just put ten s
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  so we know what you're talking about? Answer ten s
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  before you get to ten south. That's actually there's actually
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  the camera that you guys probably saw recording. That's forty
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  six door question and that's the one that you just
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  wrote ten s next to answer No, it's actually up
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  the stairs. Question So that's not that one. Answer Yeah,
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  you can put it on the drawing because of where
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  it's at. Answer okay, So the one that you just drew, Actually,
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  where is that in real relation to ten south? Answer?
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  That would be like the top of H tier I believe.
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  Question Okay, So maybe how are we going to differentiate
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  the fact that you said different one is ten s
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  the one that's recording. Answer that's ten south? Then answer
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  that's not ten south. I crossed it out. So that's
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  going to be So let's say H Tier number one,
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  and this will be H Tier number two, and this
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  would be K tier number one. And I'm not sure
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  where the second one is. I don't think it's this one.
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  I think it's maybe this one on the side. That's
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  one I'm saying is K two on this one, and
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  this will be M Tier number one looking that way,
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  and so this would be L Tier. Let me get
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  g on there. Question where would the officers station be? Answer?
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  The officer station will be next to M Tier like
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  right in this area. Question can you put a box there? Answer?
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  I believe it's right here. Question and put os for
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  officer station. Question was there a camera pointed directly at
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  the officer station? Answer? Yeah, I believe there's one out
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  here in the common area. Question and this is on
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  August ninth and tenth right. Answer yes, I'll just write
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  a common area that's there. And for the forty six camera,
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  because it's not on the drawing, I'll just write it
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  up here. Top ten South. Question that's perfect, and that's
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  the one you're going to mark as ten South. Answer yeah,
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  ten question, and that's the one and only that we
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  have that was actually working. Answer, Yeah, that's the forty
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  six door. Question. Now, where would the entrance be where
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  inmates were moved in and out of the shoe Answer
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  that's the front entrance right by the elevator. Question was
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  there a camera there? Answer? No, there's only a camera
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  in the hallway. There was no camera in there when
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  they were moving back and forth. Question if someone had
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  to come in or out of the shoe and control
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  had the buzz them. Was there away Control buzzes who
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  was coming in and out? Answer? The way that the
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  doors worked at that time was because we change some
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  of the cameras. But before it control pops the door.
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  They pretty much acknowledge that well before, especially within nine South.
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  Nine South is different because the officer has the key
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  on their hip. There's an inner door inside here, and
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  they won't even well, they're not supposed to crack the
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  outer door without somebody in Chew calling for that door.
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  So I can't go up to ten South or nine
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  South right now and say, hey, let me get the
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  twenty seven door. Somebody from Chew has to call for
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  twenty seven door because the inner door they have the
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  key before you come inside of nine South. Question but
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  there was no cameras at that point? Answer No, there
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  was a live feed. There's always a live feed. Question
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  but nothing recording? Answer nothing recording. I mean the live
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  feed goes to the control center, and the control center
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  officer sees who's at the door, and they'll pop the door.
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  Question where would the camera be? Answer? I think that
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  that camera would be in the hallway. I think that
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  camera was looking this way, so nine Sally. I just
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  labeled it nine Sally and it just looks like down
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  this way. Question Okay, so you pointed out that there's
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  one on each tier. That would make six cameras. Answer yeah,
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  question there's one in the corner of h tier. Answer yeah,
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  I believe so. Question that would make it seven. There's
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  one in the corner. He cuts them off the engineer.
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  I'm not sure about that one. I think there's one
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  in the corner, but I know that there's one definitely
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  in the common area. I know that these two are
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  definitely here. That other one I'm not too sure about
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  because I don't remember seeing that. Question. Okay, that's eight
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  cameras and there's one in the sally answer yeah. Question
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  where's the ten s camera? Answer it's up here. Question okay,
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  so nine cameras total that you're aware of that should
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  have been recording. Answer on recording. Yes, all the cameras
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  were working though, because you could see question where could
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  you see it from? Answer the live matrix question the
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  live matrix answer? Yeah, Question who had access to the
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  live matrix. Answer whoever had the keypad? Not a lot
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  of people have access to that, so like SIS would
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  have it at the time, on Control center would have it,
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  Lieutenant's office don't have it, So it's SIS, SIA I
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  have access. And that's pretty much about it. And then
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  our command center question is there something that they would
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  have to key in to see or is it just running? Answer? No,
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  you would have to key in the cameras to see
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  the actual camera. Call up. You would have to call
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  up and hit the button and know what camera is
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  to call up. Question did anyone like the SIS office
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  or even the control have like cameras, you know, like
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  the feed just running on their screen at all times?
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  Answer yeah, but they would have to go through all
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  the cameras. They usually just like it just sits on
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  one camera. It doesn't keep scrolling through all the cameras.
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  All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here and
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  in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
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  pick up where we left off. All the information that
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