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The Dark Knight Rises part 2 · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just my own voice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you sing.
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  Speaker 1: We are the world, we are the children, we are
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  Speaker 1: the ones who make a brider day. So let's start living.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there's a charge with Megan, we're seeing in our
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  Speaker 2: own laves. It's to make a.
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  Speaker 3: Better thing to you and me.
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  Speaker 2: When you're down and out. And that seems no hope
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  Speaker 2: at all. What if you just believe there's nowhere we
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  Speaker 2: can fall. Well, well, well let us realize, oh that
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  Speaker 2: a change can only come when we stand together as one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We are the world. We are the children. We're the
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  Speaker 4: ones who make a brighter day.
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  Speaker 5: So let's starts giving.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome backround to golspursement, how you doing.
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  Speaker 2: Good?
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  Speaker 1: How are you? We only use that voice to the
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  Speaker 1: rest of it off immediately for the rest, not just
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  Speaker 1: this podcast all if we have no credibility.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, So we needed to get this. We need
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  Speaker 2: to get this boat going, they say. So, no one's
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  Speaker 2: seen Wayne in years.
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  Speaker 1: No one's seen why in years. So Miranda Tate, who
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  Speaker 1: is played by Marie Uncle two Yard, is there at
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  Speaker 1: this look a looking great. So she's one of the
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  Speaker 1: cast members from inception. She won an oscar in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight for Lavin Rose and she's trying to
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  Speaker 1: see Bruce to talk about their Philip project that occurred
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  Speaker 1: in the past, and then Roland Daggett shows up.
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  Speaker 2: No, I call him weird lisp guy. What is this
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  Speaker 2: actor's name?
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  Speaker 1: Ben? Oh, my god, not Mesicht.
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  Speaker 2: There's a ton of quasi famous actors in this.
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  Speaker 1: He's Ben Ben Mendelson. I'm sorry this did an insulted him.
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  Speaker 1: He's a great actor. He's the movie The Eternal Mystery
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  Speaker 1: for Costs Basement is Rogue one. He is amazing as
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  Speaker 1: director Krannic in that movie. Great actor, so good in
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  Speaker 1: so many movies and TV shows. So he plays Roland Daggett.
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  Speaker 1: He actually very fascinating backstory lived with Heath Ledger when
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  Speaker 1: he's becoming an actor in America. Prompts to him. He's
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  Speaker 1: all over the Heath Ledger documentary that was on YouTube. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: talking about him. Really wonderful guy. But so he's saying
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  Speaker 1: that Bruce has been no one's been seeing for years.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably just sitting back there peeing into Mason Jars.
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  Speaker 2: This is a great a little aviator reference.
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  Speaker 1: Also great reference in real life to no one always
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  Speaker 1: wanted to make a Howard Hughes movie. So I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the cane physical ailments is a reference
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  Speaker 1: to Howards for Bruce.
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  Speaker 2: That's too bad that Scorsese beat him to it, because
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  Speaker 2: no one would be great. But Aviator is an underrated
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  Speaker 2: Scorsese movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's also a great DiCaprio performance.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, Miranda is Marion Courtyard. Uh and a little known
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  Speaker 2: actress name Anne Hathaway. We took a really small part
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  Speaker 2: for this movie. She's playing just a maid in Wayne Manner.
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  Speaker 1: She saw that Nolan wave coming.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So she's just a maid in Wayne Manor and
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  Speaker 2: she works in the kitchen. And I wrote a comment
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  Speaker 2: and I'm really bad because I didn't write down the
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  Speaker 2: actors names. I hope you can know what or find it.
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  Speaker 2: But the quarterback and the replacements that Keanu Reeves replaced
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  Speaker 2: is in this movie as a congressman.
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  Speaker 1: Who's also want Lost. He's Elizabeth's ex husband, right.
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  Speaker 2: But most importantly, this same actor who's in this movie
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  Speaker 2: as a congressman plays Thomas Wayne Bruce, Wayne's father in
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  Speaker 2: The Joker.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, what is his name? I'm not gonna know what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Pat Trenmonson. That was a guess. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: look it up, but you go ahead continue.
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  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, let me go back to my notes here. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to look it up to So she
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  Speaker 1: is serving. He grabs her and it was like hey,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, shrimp balls.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, shrimp balls. No, I don't know, shrimp balls.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the guy says.
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  Speaker 1: This character that probably would fit really well, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who is this guy's name. I'm gonna find it
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  Speaker 2: really quick, so I'm right there, hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 2: It is Brett Cullen.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I remember her from Lost mostly more than anything else.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so in the kitchen area, I didn't love
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  Speaker 1: this intro for Alfred. I thought it was really rough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alfred's kind of a dickhead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like this intro at all. He comes
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  Speaker 1: in and it's like, hey, everyone, I told you guys
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  Speaker 1: not to use the east stairwell. Where is whoever? That
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  Speaker 1: person's not there. So the maid playby Hathaway walks over.
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  Speaker 1: She's sorry, server walks over and she's like, I'll do like,
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  Speaker 1: bring this to this whatever area, leave the key, lock it,
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  Speaker 1: come back you to do.
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  Speaker 2: It's basically like Bruce lives in the east wing alone.
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  Speaker 2: He only sees Alfred and leave him some food, but
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  Speaker 2: that's it and don't come back.
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  Speaker 1: So we cut back to the party and we see
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  Speaker 1: fully another cop played by Matthew Modin another one of
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  Speaker 1: the Chris Nolan eighties rescues.
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  Speaker 2: We're Friends and the band played on great movie. Have
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  Speaker 2: you ever seen that movie about? It's about AIDS. It's
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  Speaker 2: about like the discovery of AIDS.
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  Speaker 1: I've only here's the thing I know vision quest never
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  Speaker 1: seen it.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, and it's pretty bad, but it's a Joe Norton favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry to Joe too. I've only ever seen him in
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  Speaker 1: Married to the Mob and Full Metal Jacket, where he
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  Speaker 1: plays a guy named Joker. Oh. So she goes to
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  Speaker 1: drop off the food and she comes across a safe,
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  Speaker 1: opens it and I'm sorry, Actually they don't show this happen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry shopping the food off whatever. Bruce emerges from
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  Speaker 1: the darkness. He's in a bathrobe that looks great by.
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  Speaker 2: The way hanging open. He's like, hey, he this some
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  Speaker 2: no idea, A munch of money I got.
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  Speaker 1: He approaches and he's like those that those pearls will
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  Speaker 1: like great. He looked at the ones that my mom
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  Speaker 1: had and she stole them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, it's it's I don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: that guy that like, well, you had a couple of
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  Speaker 2: words slightly off there. I really like how he said
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  Speaker 2: those are beautiful pearls. It reminds me of my mother's pearls,
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  Speaker 2: but it can't possibly be the exact same necklace because
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  Speaker 2: her pearls are in this safe, which the manufacturer assured
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  Speaker 2: me was uncrackable. And he looks over in the safe
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  Speaker 2: so open, and oh, I wanted to say. One thing
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  Speaker 2: we mean is the people are talking at the party
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  Speaker 2: and somebody says the mayor is gonna dump Gordon in
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  Speaker 2: the spring, and somebody says he's a war hero. Modeene
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  Speaker 2: says he's a war hero, but this is peacetime.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so anyways, and then so Anne Hathaway is
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  Speaker 2: like perfectly playing this innocent maide at Wayne Manor and
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  Speaker 2: she's just like, oh, mister Wayne, you surprised me. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry the way yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. He
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  Speaker 2: shoots an arrow at her because she's snooping around his
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  Speaker 2: target board and then green arrow comes off and it
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  Speaker 2: is Stephen Amu and he goes, hey does anybody need
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  Speaker 2: all of her? Queen, watch your hands? So no, so anyways,
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  Speaker 2: so she's like, oh, mister Wayne, oh, I'm so sorry
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  Speaker 2: to disturb you. And then when he's like, you stole
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  Speaker 2: my mother's necklace, her demeanor instantly changes.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like you can see it on her face.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good.
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  Speaker 2: She's great.
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  Speaker 1: She fucking wins this movie entirely.
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  Speaker 2: She is great.
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  Speaker 1: Bane is so amazing in this movie. She is incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Why do people hate her?
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I never understood it. She's bats,
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  Speaker 1: especially even now she bats a thousand now in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Uh No, She's done in some really bad movies.
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  Speaker 1: But I respect that she does wild Ship. I respect
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  Speaker 1: that so much because this year she wins an Oscar
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  Speaker 1: for a le misera. Yes, and she's very good in
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  Speaker 1: that movie. I know it's not considered like a well
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  Speaker 1: loved movie because it's a pretty like turgid version of
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  Speaker 1: that play.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Shannon Cuff loves that movie really.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, what does she think of Russell Crowe singer?
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  Speaker 2: I haven't talk to her about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she is so good at like doing this.
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  Speaker 1: I just love how she kicks the cane and immediately
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  Speaker 1: just disables him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so good. She does like, I know you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to hit a woman, just like I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to hit a cripple. But the she kicks his game.
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  Speaker 1: And he's gone instantly. And that backflip out of the
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  Speaker 1: window a plus.
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  Speaker 2: Just her move. So she's she strips off her like
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  Speaker 2: white section of her made uniform. She's just wearing like
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  Speaker 2: basically all black.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and it looks great.
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  Speaker 2: And she flips out the window and then walks into
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  Speaker 2: a congressman's car and sits in the passenger seat and says,
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  Speaker 2: can I have a ride? And then the congressman goes
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  Speaker 2: like yes.
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  Speaker 1: I love Also, this is part of the newest theme
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  Speaker 1: musically the Hans Zimmer did for this movie, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like a piano theme for Catwoman. That is so good,
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  Speaker 1: so good.
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  Speaker 2: Another cut at this point to Bruce having diarrhea. Why
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  Speaker 2: do they keep doing that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, so, actually we should mention he had just won
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  Speaker 1: an oscar for playing Dicky in the Fighter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh he has because when they shows him skinny.
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  Speaker 1: When they showed me the seams like, wow, he's super gaunt.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh he had just because.
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  Speaker 2: He's not like training for Batman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I think the diarrhea scene was a
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  Speaker 1: bit much.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a great moment where Alfred's like, you
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  Speaker 2: know what happened to him, mister Wayne, and he says,
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  Speaker 2: oh this, this bitch fucking stole my mother's necklace. And
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  Speaker 2: then he was like, why are you testing for prince?
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  Speaker 2: And he says, I'm not testing for prince.
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  Speaker 1: She was it.
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  Speaker 2: So there's something this is she was not trying to
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  Speaker 2: steal the pearl necklace. Something else was going on.
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  Speaker 1: I think here's the thing, how she lived her life.
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  Speaker 1: She was there to get the prince, but so the
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  Speaker 1: necklace was like, this is super valuable altime too.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Next week we have Joseph Gordon Lovitt okay, who I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely love and it's a great actor, not quite like
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  Speaker 2: Aaron at Court Eckhart. But what happened to just Gordon Lovett,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Was the highest of highs for him in terms. I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't say he was super popular at this time. This
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  Speaker 1: character is a bit of a morphous figure, but I
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  Speaker 1: was just so it was so cool to see him
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  Speaker 1: in this kind of movie.
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  Speaker 2: I was a huge early adopter of jgl much like
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  Speaker 2: Heath Ledger, So I was very excited he got cast
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  Speaker 2: in this movie. People were like, is he going to
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  Speaker 2: turn into a villain? Who is he playing? We didn't know,
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  Speaker 2: but keep in mind he was a child actor. So
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: this is Jgl's IMDb. I'm not gonna go over every
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: single role, but for the most part, beef Oven. He
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: was in that in the Dog movie, Jesus Angels in
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  Speaker 2: the Outfield. He was famously in Third Rock from the Sun, Halloween,
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: h t O. Ten Things I Hate About You, Yep,
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: Treasure Planet, Mysterious Skin, which is on my Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe probably for most fucked up movies I've ever seen, very.
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  Speaker 1: Hard to find, never seen it, but very hard to find.
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  Speaker 1: You've never seen it physically and streaming, very hard to find.
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  Speaker 2: On my Mount Rushmore. I'm talking about like Happiness, Hollow,
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  Speaker 2: Mysterious Skin. That guy is a great director, uh Brick,
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  Speaker 2: which was very popular when we were in high school,
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  Speaker 2: very very it was like high school, like like Mystery
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  Speaker 2: hard Boiled. Oh yeah, I was Ryan Johnson. And then
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  Speaker 2: The Lookout, which was a what's the guy's name? Elmore
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  Speaker 2: Leonard movie.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, done by Scott Frank The Queen's Gambit, Oh.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Really, Stop Stop Loss, the Miracle at Santa Ana, The
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  Speaker 2: Brothers Bloom.
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  Speaker 1: Stop Loss was the military one right with Channing Tatum.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was what Kimberly Pierce she did Boys
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  Speaker 1: Don't Cry, right. I never saw that about it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so you're talking about stop Loss. So sorry, I
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  Speaker 2: got distracted. Kill Shot was the Elmore Leonard movie. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: not the Lookout. Kill Shot was after so stop Loss
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  Speaker 2: was based on It's very funny that you mentioned this
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  Speaker 2: because I was just reading about this. But it is
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  Speaker 2: like a it's a war like Recently Returned from the
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  Speaker 2: Gulf or PTSD movie starring Ryan Philip, Channing Tatum, Joseph
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  Speaker 2: Gordon Levitt. Uh. Yeah. It was an MTV Films film.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: He played Cobra Commander and the G I. Joe franchise,
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  Speaker 2: which is called G I Joe, The Rest of Cobra,
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Five Hundred Days of Summer, Fantastic, Fantastic romantic comedy, Hesher
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Oh Masterpiece, Electra Lux Shout Out, I Love Her, Carla Gugino,
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, Looper, Lincoln, Sin City,
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  Speaker 2: The Interview The Night Before, which was.
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  Speaker 1: To Kill.
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  Speaker 2: Snowed in the Last Jedi yep, the trial at Chicago
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  Speaker 2: seven and then it's kind of like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened from there. Yeah, but Joseph
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  Speaker 2: Gordon Levin for a while, I was like, he is
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  Speaker 2: going to be one of the biggest movie stars in
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  Speaker 2: the world, and he's also the kind of guy you
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  Speaker 2: want to see what happened to. Yeah, he seems like
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  Speaker 2: a good dude. I like him. I still do.
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  Speaker 1: I never knew what happened, but I liked what he did.
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  Speaker 1: I like him in this movie the character itself. I
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  Speaker 1: just fundamentally, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Okay, let blake the flake.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it seemed like he was blatantly plot convenience,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's like to whittle this story or together. Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not a sin. I mean every movie
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  Speaker 2: it's not his fault, of course. Yeah, well every movie
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  Speaker 2: does that. I don't I don't think it's necessarily like
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  Speaker 2: bad storytelling. Oh no, this broke, Oh no, this class broke.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm gonna blame Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: So he's on the top of the police headquarters.
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  Speaker 2: He's a copper.
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  Speaker 1: He's a copper, and he's stuck into Gordon and he's like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: since you. Since you and Dent get the streets, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be what what do you say? Like he
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  Speaker 1: made some comment like we're gonna be going for like
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  Speaker 1: some very simple crime.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like he says, don't you want to
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  Speaker 2: know who the Batman was? He says that to Gordon,
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  Speaker 2: and Gordon says, I know exactly who he was. He
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  Speaker 2: was Batman, which that's all the matters to Gordon.
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  Speaker 1: Which I like a lot, but later it's later, it's better.
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  Speaker 1: So then we cut to Alfred walking down to a
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  Speaker 1: fully functioning batcave, which I was like, let's fucking go.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Alfred uses the piano keys and he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you haven't been down here in a while, master Wine.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Chris, we really need you to lean back editing
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  Speaker 1: wise on on Michael. So this is where we actually
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  Speaker 1: hear why Bruce has stopped, which is why he just
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: says there's nothing out there for me, because crime has
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  Speaker 1: gone down. The delivered, you know, prophetic life of Harvey
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  Speaker 1: Dent has supposedly quote unquote cured crime.
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  Speaker 2: He also said he has been hella baked. I would
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  Speaker 2: I would love that amazing smoking from the boon.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, how Alfred Wes today's date, it's four twenty bostwame.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is it? And then you just hear like, but.
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  Speaker 1: Alfred's like, Sir, I think the worst, which I think
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  Speaker 1: is actually really cool line. It's like, I think the
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  Speaker 1: worst thing is that you're hoping for things to go
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  Speaker 1: bad again. And then Alpha bless you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm allergic to stupid takes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm reading what this movie is saying, and Alfred is like,
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  Speaker 1: you're hoping things go bad again? And then Alfred reads
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  Speaker 1: his fantasy.
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  Speaker 2: He's equipment batman because he's so sad about Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: Dying, which were already about this, so don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, her name is Selena Kyle. Selena Kyle's catwoman.
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  Speaker 2: She's a cat burglar. I'm looking up her background. Blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: Great by the way, yeah she loses.
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  Speaker 2: But do you want to tell do you want to
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  Speaker 2: read this story?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't write this down because I find this fundamentally
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  Speaker 1: and very very infuriating. Why not? No, no, not because
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  Speaker 1: of the fantasy at all. I think the fantasy actually
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  Speaker 1: is great and really positive, and I love how it's
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  Speaker 1: paid off. Later I just heat again it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: we saw earlier with Gordon. I hate how they show it.
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  Speaker 1: If you show it, well, if you show.
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  Speaker 2: It at least it's not a flashback, then truth truth.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't show it, Michael Kaine is this movie proves.
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  Speaker 1: This movie especially proves the point that Michael Kaine can
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  Speaker 1: explain a lot of your plot and you'll buy it.
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  Speaker 1: Where like he explains it, I would buy it so
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  Speaker 1: much more because Michael Kaine's face is so good, especially
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  Speaker 1: in one scene later, it's like to watch him yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, if he was explaining this scene of
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  Speaker 1: like what he thinks bruce life would be and not
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  Speaker 1: show it, it's so much better than like showing the
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  Speaker 1: visual because then when the end happens, that will come across.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that pay don't I think that payoff would
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: have of a hard, harder bunch to make.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: But Alfred is like, basically every year I go to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: he was talking about and Bruce is away, so Batman
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: begins before he comes back to Gotham, just to be
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: be Batman. He's gone for like eight years, seven years,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and he was legally declared dead by Alfred. And Alfred
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: said every year when you were gone, I would go
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to flor I'm not this is not verbatim, uh, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I'd have a finette and I'd have a fantasy. I
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: would look across to tables.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's a.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Bronca sorry, Bronca blanca. But it's a frenette. It's like
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the you know, you know, fornette, like the dirt liquor.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: You never had fernette?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, Ryan, did you have it for this podcast?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: No? I shut up. So for Nette next time Forte
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: is I believe. I believe it's an apper teeth, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: it's the it's basically like drinking dirt for Nette broncos
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: that's what it's called. So it's basically like drinking dirt.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: And it is a Italian amorrow or bitters anyways, So
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: for Net is a big I didn't know this, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it's a big industry thing with restaurants. So chefs and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: waiters at like the end of their shift will take
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a shot of fernette together. And I discovered this through
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Mark that fernette is very common. And you know when
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you you know, sometimes you go to a bar and
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: they have a shot and a drink menu. So it'll
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: be like a shot at Jamison and a Guinness, a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: shot at jock Jack Daniels in a bud. One of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: them is called Industry Night, and it was it's like
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a waiters favorite, a service favorite. And it was a
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: shot of Fornett and a Miller High Life chantage of
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: beers for some reason, but Fornette take it tastes like
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you're drinking dirt. It looks like you're drinking dirt. So
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I can't believe you've never had this. We need to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: have a shot of this as soon as possible. It's disgusting.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It's very very bitter and earthy and dirty. Hey chuck,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But so he goes, yeah, I have a finet Bronca,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and I look across the tables. I see you there
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: with a wife and some kids. And we wouldn't say
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: anything to each other. I just know now you made it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: There's nothing here for you in Gultham but pain and tragedy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want no goodbye, no Seelida, nothing but he
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: gives a little Chucky from good All hunting.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: But that's like, that's my thing. They were like, they
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: don't cut to Will meeting up with money driver.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: They're like, but no, no, no, but like so Alfred's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: fantasy which they show is when he's in Florence and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he looks over and it's a guy that looks like Bruce.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: But it's not. So I understand what you're saying, and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, but it's not as bad
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: as you're making it out to be. It's not like
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: they showed it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: But that's my they like it's carbon copy with different actors.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I just feel like, to me, like Michael Kayane's is
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a good performer of words like and again this movie,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: this movie especially, relies a lot on him on explaining
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of things through him, Like I feel like
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: when you saw the reality, I'm sorry, the spoken word
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: become reality. It's better.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know, just to me, sure, fine, fine.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And then Christopher Nolan Collin, I just thought this scene
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: would have been Ryan Josawyer purchase come in for the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Odyssey soundtrack on vinyl. So I'm not sure why you're complaining,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: have a good day.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I personally wanted this scene to be directed by Brian Setzis,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So I agree with Brian, it does not work.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I'm giving up my own movie.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: As the saying, give me the reins over. But okay,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: now it cuts to Joseph Gordon Levic Ago he plays Blake,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and Blake is investigating there's like a dead teenager and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: he says, oh, this.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Is the kid the sewers of the city, because this is.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: A kid that used to go to the that used
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to live in the orphanage that I used to live in.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go talk to those guys. And he
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: talks to those guys and he's like, why is he
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: not living here anymore? He's seventeen and they said, well,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: you know at sixteen age out. He was like, well,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I thought Bruce Wayne gave money so the older kids
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: could stay. And he was like, no, that money stopped.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: They don't stay anymore. But his little brother is here.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So Jessic Gordon Levitz goes to the little brother and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: goes like, why would we find him in the sewer
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: and the little brother says, well, I heard there's work
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: in the sewers.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Also a love the This was a great trailer moment
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for this movie is when the little brother is drawing
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the bats symbol on the bench, means like, do you
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: think he's coming back?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: But I also felt like this moment especially was to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: me the big idea, like this movie being about something
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: just outside of Bruce.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that that's true. Yeah, here we go. Okay,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I love this guy. So anyways, then it cuts to
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Catwoman and you want to explain this scene in the
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: bar with this guy. This actor, by the way, wonderful guy.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: His name is Burne Gorman and if you if you
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: saw his face, you'd probably recognize him. But he played
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Carl Fukan Tanner in A Game of Thrones. Who it
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: was John John Jones's yikes. It was John Snow's big
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: first fight where it was like he's out of training,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: he's in the real world and he's fighting a guy
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: who has two knives and the guy spits in his
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: eyes and John is very thrown off because he's like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: this never happened in training. When you're training sword fights
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: in a castle with your rich family, like, nobody spits
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: in your eyes. And that's played by this guy.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: And his character is striver.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but anyways, explain.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: So Selena Kyle is in like a kind of like
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: dive bar with him, and she's selling the Prince to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne of Sorry the Prince of Bruce Wayne and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: essentially being like trying to like understand more of like
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: why he needs the Prince, and she pretty much like
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: what he has best almost upstages him, being like she
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: knows that once she gives this to him, it's over
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: for her, Like forgetting Bruce Wayne's prince. You're You're in
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a bigger game than I'm in, and I need to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: get rid of you. Yeah. So Selena from the last
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: scene we saw has had a guy from the Senator
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: from Bruce's party and like her possession is missing Bret Cullen,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the character he plays, So she's like okay, like they're
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: kind of negotiating the costs whatever it was. And what
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: does she say with the idea of like what She's like, Oh, well,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you just made a call from his phone.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So like the congressman that she has seduced at
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: them they're gonna kill her in the bar, yes, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: she says, like, my friend's waiting outside, and she's like,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: call your friend. So she calls her friend and says, yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, everything's fine. So it's in its Juno Temple. Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: In a random small role from Ted Lasso, or as
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I call it, Ted's asshole. But so she leaves and
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: then they go like, well, you know, with the congressman
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: at your bar, at the bar too, and they point
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and the congressman that she seduced is like drunk at
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the bar when they go, I don't care, we'll kill both.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Fields will never look for him in this bar because
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: we're in like this really dangerous section of Gotham, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: she goes, well, you did just use his cell phone
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: to call my friend, and then the cops like swarm
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the bar because they're looking for the congressman and fucking genius,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: because like the advantage that you might be a plus one.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Fair, that's fair, that's fair.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Char The genius of Catwoman is like she's never in
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a situation she doesn't know how to play, and she
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: leans into being a woman when she needs to to
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: her advantage. So when the cops storm in the bar,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: all the cops are like pulling out guns and shooting
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: all the guys, and she just she's very much a
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: part of this criminal scenario and she just goes, oh,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: like she's this helpless woman.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing this the first one. I was in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: theaters when she stopped crying, our entire crowd left.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, she's crying and screaming and they're like, oh my god,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: he has a gun and the cops go like, just leave,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: just leave, and then she just you know, she her
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: demeanor changes and she walks out of the bar and
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: there's a scene where Gordon goes down and the they're
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: basically chasing these guys. They go down to the sewer.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I wrote, how badly did you want Killer Croc to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: be in this scenario? But they do reference him? So
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: do you do you not realize that no one? So
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Killer Croc, for those who don't know, is a batman
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: villain who is basically a humanoid alligator mutant and he
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: lives in the sewers. So they go on the sewers
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and I just kept thinking of Killer Croc the whole time.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And then later on in the movie, Jose Gordon Levitt's like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I told them that, like, there's a mass man in
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the sewers and he kidnapped James Gordon, And they said, oh, yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: did you also see that there's a giant crocodile?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, but my again, I was I said this in
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the dark night. These are a stealth remake of the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Tim Burton Movies. My first thought was, man, the fucking
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: penguins down there, and it was actually probably worst news
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: for you if they're down there.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so he says, so Joseph Gordon Levitt, Sorry,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking my brain is moving faster than my mouth. Gordon,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Jim Gordon, Gary oldman goes down there and there's an
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: explosion and he's stuck down there. So jose Gordon Levitt says,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: whose name is Blake, we gotta go down there right now.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And a cop says there's a gas explosion and then
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Blake says, Nope, there wasn't because there's no gas down there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It's a sewer, so there isn't gas. Then they go, well,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: we don't know what's down there, and then Blake says,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: what's down there is the police commissioner. And then Matthew
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Madeen Modine says, somebody get this hot head out of here.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: And even though he's speaking calmly the entire time, I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: never I again, I think this character's a huge mistake.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Might opinion fully, but fully, Matthew Modeen, just include this.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: This movie's flaw. I think it's just too busy and
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: we just don't need the fully line.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: One thing. I see where you're going with that, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I don't totally agree, but I'm not gonna argue with
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: you because I think it's a good point. One thing,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I will say, this movie's too long. The Dark Knight
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: is like the greatest movie of all time, and it's shorter.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: This movie's three hours, get two fifty four and what
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: was The Dark Knight to twenty two thirty? Right?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Like why do we need to do? That's the thing
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: about the Odyssey is like, fuck you, Kris Nolan, Like
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I understand, Like, first of all, I texted you guys
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: this let me go in a little ran for a
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: second about seeing movies in theaters. All these fucking directors
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: are saying, you got to see movies in theaters. Movies
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: are supposed to be meant to see, be seeing in theaters,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: like Tarantino and Chris Nolan and all these other artists
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: who are directors. I agree, seeing movies in the theater
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: is fucking great. I love seeing movies in the theater. However,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: now it's like forty dollars to go, and it's totally
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: impractical if you have like children, and you work, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: your wife works and you know I'm not saying you're wrong,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: but don't fucking lecture me about how I shouldn't be
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: watching movies at home because you expect me to go
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: out of my way and inconvenience my life and spend
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: more money to see your fucking movie in the theater. Like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. Don't complain about that, complain about
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you know, people dying throughout the rest of the world,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like Iran and Palestine, and like, don't complain to me
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: about how we should all go to the theater to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: see your fucking movie. Also, if we should all go
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: to the theater to see your fucking movie, don't make
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it like three and a half hours long, because that's
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: even worse for all of us.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Sorry, go ahead.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: The stretch to the Iran conflict is a lot. I'm
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: just gonna say that to you right now. It's a lot.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. I want to tell you this. For
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the people who care, who are the single losers like me,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you can make it work, and you'll do it any
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: That's what they think. It's like the world should make
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: this work for me in my movie and then so
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: like I don't remember exactly what happens but Joseph Gordon
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Levitt like chases them down and he finds Bain.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Before Levitt shows up. Like Baine finds Gordon and chills
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: like whoever people with it?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Just Gordon alone and two of his guys. And this
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: is where we see Baine brick shit house moment.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: This is I think the only scene in the movie
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: where there's no he has no shirt on. So usually,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: like if you know anything about if you know it,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: like it sounded so pretentious, but if you know anything
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: about movie making, we don't. Also, I'm so cringe, but
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I understand it's a generational thing. Anybody in the industry
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: who's like Spielberg his age are older calls movies pictures
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and I hate that. I think it's so cringe. Like
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: so I was, I was making a picture called Jurassic
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Park and it's like just the fuck up. But anyways,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: so babe, this is for filming. Like usually, if you
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: know you're gonna do a shirtless scene, like Michael B.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Jordan in Creed, He's like, when I'm filming the fight scenes,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that's when I'm heavily, heavily dieting and I may not
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: like have a lot of water that day because I
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: want to look shredded, and dehydrated makes you look more shredded.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: So this is the one scene in the movie where
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Tom Hardy has no shirt on and he is a fuck.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It's like my water heater. If you tried to fight
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: my water heater right now, that's what it would be like.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a nuclear explosion. So it looks Yes,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: he's so big all these shows is back and you're
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: just sitting I'm like, this guy's a fucking his back
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: is huge. He's a mansion of beef. It's unbelievable. Yes,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: it's like I was like, who would speak to him?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Like he's the type of guy that like he would
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: eat three steaks after just going to the gym and
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: deadlifting eight hundred pounds, and he's he's also he's wearing
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: like a weightlifting belt because if you know what like
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: a weightlifting belt is, it's like this very thing you
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: put it around your midsection, like over your belly button.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: He has a no shirt on, he has like gauntlets
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: like like military parachute pants, his fucking mask, combat boots,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: and no shirt and he's just he looks like a
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: like a like a cow almost like.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: He was so big. Yeah, and I love And then
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the best part of this whole scene is like you
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: see that and you're like, well, Gordon's completely screwed because
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: he represents the image he's trying to tear down. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: then he kills his two employees, being like I.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Don't understand that he kills his two employees, but not Gordon, like.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Why did you bring him here? Why did you bring
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: him here? Off? Yeah?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I wrote again in this in this note second best
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Bane after Jeeps.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You're so you're you're on the Jeeps and train. You're
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: not getting off?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never getting off the Jeep Spenson train. So
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I keep writing Drake in my notes where Blake saves him,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: so he.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Gets what happens, Like that whole thing happens where like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Baine kills his two employees and then like Gordon sloly
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: escapes somehow like through the water.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I don't really. He slips down this little.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: My Blu Ray skip which I found, which sent me
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: into a fury. So I destroyed the TV and the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: disc and called best Buy from twenty twelve and it's
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: like I need this back, and they were like, please
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: kill yourself anybody. You know.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: You looked at the back of the box and it
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: was like call this number, and you called and they
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: answered hull all wrong.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Uh so all right?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: So then after this blow on it down. Uh, streaming
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: has made your weak.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: But okay, no, he Bean would never believe in stream
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: just by the four K place the bids.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: That's true, actually, so Blake. Uh Now, after this whole incident.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: They put Gordon in the hospital and he goes to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Wayne Manner.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, and this is for so Ryan said, his character
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: is like not great. I understand that argument, but I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: have a personal affection for him specifically because of the scene.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I think the scene is actually genuinely wonderful. Yes, I
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: think this how they do this is so great.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to I want to talk about this.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So he shows up to the door and he's like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Alfred's like.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Hallo, why are you going here?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Oliver White, you bring a mask? Yeah, hold on
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: a seck. So Blake shows Joseph Gordon Levin shows up
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: at the door. He's like, I'm a cop. I need
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to talk to Bruce Wayne and Alfred's like no, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: then he says, okay, how about I execute search Warrens
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: for the night that Harvey Dent died and then Alfher's like,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: come on in, and so I wanted. I wanted to
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: read this because I wrote this down and this this
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: like this scene, I genuinely cried. I don't know, I'm
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: kind of a mess these days. I think being a
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: dad just makes me cry more. But uh, I cried
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the whole third act of this movie, but also cried
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: during the scene because it spoke to me so much.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: So Blake is talking to Bruce and he says, you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Commissioner Gordon needs Batman, like we need Batman to come back.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And Bruce is like, uh, why are you talking to
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: me about this? And he goes like He's like, dude,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I know you're Batman. And Bruce says, what are you
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: talking about. I'm not Batman at all. You're crazy. I'm crippled,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Like what are you talking about? And he says, we
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: met before a long time ago. I was a kid
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: at Saint what is it Smigans or something?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Smiggins, I don't know, that's the name.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Of the orphanage. He's like, all right, let me let
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: me start over. He goes, we met before a long
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: time ago. I was a kid at an orphanage that
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: used to be funded by, by the way, by the
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Wayne Foundation. My mom died when I was really small.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: It was in a car accident. I don't really remember it,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: but my dad got shot a couple of years later,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and I remember that one just fine. Not a lot
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: of people knows what it feels like to be angry,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: angry in your bones. I mean they understand to an extent.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Foster parents understand. Everybody understands for a while, and then
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: they want the angry little kid to do something about
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: it and move on. Uh, they stop understanding when they
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: send the angry kid to a boy home. I figured
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: it out too late. You got to learn to hide
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the anger. You gotta practice smiling in a mirror. It's
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: like putting on a mask. So one day you showed
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: up to my orphanage because you were funding it, in
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: a cool car with a pretty girl in your arm.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: We were so excited to see Bruce Wayne, the billionaire
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: orphan I mean, we used to make up stories about
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: you man legends and with the other kids, it was
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: all just these stories. And we saw you with the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: car with the girls. They thought it was so cool,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: but right when I saw you, I immediately knew who
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you really were because I've seen that look on your
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: face before. It's the same one I taught myself. And
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: he says, I don't know why you took the fall
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: for dance murder, but I still believe in the Batman.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I thought that was fucking incredible, And I just want
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to say that, like what spoke to me. And I
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: don't want to put too much weight because here's the thing.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I don't want to put too much weight to us
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: quote unquote silly old Batman movie. But I was watching
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: this this I talked about it before. It was called
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: like deer antler theory, but it was about how evolution
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: caused this species of deer, this ancient species of deer,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to have the biggest antlers ever in recorded history. And
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: that sounds great, like you want the biggest antlers, right,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: But it ended up being so big that the antlers
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: killed the deer like it was too much, and throughout
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the course of evolution, the deer quickly went extinct. And
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the argument is, like consciousness, human consciousness is a flaw
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and evolution because we experienced so much sadness and anger
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and depression and despair, and we're so cruel to one
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: another that it it's our consciousness. We'd be better off
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: if we were just like dogs or fish, you know
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: what I mean. It would just be a lot less complicated.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: And I commented on that video and I said, this
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: is just like Batman and Owlman about like when you
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: look at the abyss and the vist stairs back at us.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: And people started responding to my comment, making fun of
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: me for referencing Batman when we're talking about such a
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: serious concept. And I was like, that is so idiotic
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: that you would react that way, because these like.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: First of all, we're commenting on a YouTube video. Let's
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: start with the framework we're in right now, people correct, relax.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Correct, And also like, you talk about these theories in
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: a philosophy class, and most of the time when it
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: gets distributed to the masses, it's in a medium like Batman.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: So when I was watching this, I thought this said
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: so much about trauma and anger, and it made me think,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm not at all trying to equate my life
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: with Bruce Wayne's. Like Bruce Wayne and his parents were
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: murdered in front of him when he was like ten,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: when his brain wasn't fully developed, Like that's gott to
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: fuck you up in a way that I can't possibly understand.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to equate my trauma to his trauma,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: but like I remember why they spoke to me so
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: much as what he's taught. Justsein Gordon Levitt is talking
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: about always being angry and having to learn to pretend
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: you're not. When the Twins died, I was so angry
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: with the world, and everyone understood, like your friends, your family,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: your coworkers, everyone understood's understoods. Everyone understands for a while,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and then after a while they're like, Okay, we expect
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you to be normal now. And whether you have a
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: sibling die, or a friend die, or a child die, whatever.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: That survival darkness said, Well, it's.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Not me, right, like your coworkers. If you have some
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: a coworker whose spouse dies, you will give them the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: longest leash for the longest time. But they're gonna come
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a day where it's like, okay, like it's been a year,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: you got to act normal at work.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Now you have a clock on it. It doesn't affect
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you directly.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Correct, And I think that that's understandable because we all
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: need to move forward in our lives. We can't like
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: change the functionality of our office because our coworkers spouse died.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like when you're going through
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the trauma, you don't have a clock on it, and
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: you're never normal again. You're never not angry. So when
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: he talks about how everyone expects you to be not angry,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: but you always are angry. So you have to teach
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: yourself to pretend to not be just so you can
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: function in the world. That's how I feel like, I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: feel always angry about it all the time, and you
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: have to go about your life in a way where
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: you can. You have to figure out a way to
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: either hide it or put it aside in certain scenarios,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: or learn to compartmentalize it in your brain. But like
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I'm always he's angry every day since that happened, And
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: when he's talking about that, he's like, that's what Bruce
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: is feeling. There's no way that you can get all
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the best therapy in the world where you are not
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: constantly angry because your parents were murdered in front of you. However,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: when I was talking about how soon, I said in
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the intro episode, to this trilogy that Superman's superpower is
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that he's a nice person even though he has the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: powers of a god. Bruce's superpower is that he doesn't blink.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: When the Abyss stares back at him, he does not blink.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: So even though he's so angry and this awful thing
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: happened to him, he is still able to provide hope
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: for everyone. And Joseph Gordon Levitt Blake immediately gets that. Yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: and that's why this scene worked for me so well.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: But anyways, you said you liked this scene as well.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's a wonderful scene because the Nolan universe
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: is about like the the idea of like the slightly
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: being the real world. So you're like, eventually someone would
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: put to put this together, who would figure out who
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Batman is?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And Nolan is.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Not known as like an emotional director or movies. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: just love how they chose like this moment to be like,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: this is the person who knew you you were, not
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: being like, well, you're rich and you're single, so you
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: must be this person. It was about I saw you
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: once and I felt it great, incredible, Yeah, so good, Yeah, yeah,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I love that so good.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: And then he leaves and Bruce is like, oh, sorry,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: no that he did not leave yet. So Bruce is
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: listening to him and he goes, what do you mean
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: your orphanage used to be funded by my foundation and
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: uh Jess Gordon Levin says, the money stop. Uh yeah, yeah,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: that's okay. Sorry, he says, because the money stopped coming in,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: somebody needs to get you some fresh air. Pay attention
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to the details because some of those details might need
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: your help. Great line, great line, Some of those details
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: might need your help. And then you mentioned how much
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: you love this scene in a prior episode when he
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: goes to the doctor.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Great one.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I love him he goes to the doctor because this
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: is really because this really does this is what would
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: happen in real life.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Because no One again we talked about this in a
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: few episodes before, like no One is not known for humor,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: but this is like the genuine last Year This Time movie.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: So they have Thomas Lennon from nine to one comeback.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: He was actually in Memento as a doctor. So it's
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: this great callback and he's just reviewing how it is,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: like he this.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Well, before you go into this, keep in mind he's
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: only even Batman for like a year.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's eight years. No, No, I'll tell you it's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: software years, right, yea, So.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: He was Batman for like a year in the dark
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Night and then he retired, so he's only been an
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: active Batman for a year. And then continue why.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Did the not set up more red flags for the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: doctor where he's like, this is a bridge billionaire who
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: is a pretty cushy life. And he's like, so there's
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: damage here for the knees, that would whatever, And it's like,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: there's usually whatever the guy's and he's like, oh this,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you know there would usually be like cartilage damage for everything. Okay,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: that's fine, Well, no, you should be concerned there is
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: no cartilage here. Okay. So he just reviews how like
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Bruce has conclutely destroyed his body. Then Bruce does the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: most acrobatic shit imaginable out the window.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Well, the doctor says, there's no cartilage in your knees,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: not much of any use in your elbows or shoulders.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Between that and the scar tissue to your kidney's.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Kidney, kidney's art tissue, how hard are you being hit it?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: The residual concussive damage to your brain tissue and the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: general scarred over quality of your entire body. I would
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: not recommend you go hell of skiing. But the so
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: he's basically saying you're gonna get CTE.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is a wonderful scene.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Next to go ahead, Oh is this their dance?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: No? This is the Bruce repels down into oh yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: So after Gordon, I feel like like Gordon's refusal to
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: know who bad man is is sort of like a
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: child in Santa Claus. It's like, really, Bruce goes and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: visits this hospital room with a scheme mask on. It's like, really,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: we're doing this, Like what can be real?
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: We'll get to this later.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: It tries to me kind of insane that he but
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: that he won't find out.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: No, we'll get to it later. I'm compounding to another
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: retra have with this movie. There's a wonderful trailer of
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: this movie because how do you fall out The Dark Knight? Sorry,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the teaser for this movie and the Dark Knight teaser
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: is just again, they have a city from the ground
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: point of view where the city skyline makes out the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: bat symbol and it's deteriorating, and they just cut to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Gordon in the hospital on the ICU being like, we
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: fucked your old garm and it's like and it's like,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: it's like, what if Batman doesn't exist anymore? And he's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: like he can't not exist and he's like, I just
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: think it's so an incredibly powerful moment and this movie
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: because Bruce is like, what if Batman wasn't needed anymore?
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And he's like, because Bruce's we won. We like in
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: terms of our plan, we won. And he's like, we
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: want you have to exist, you have to keep going
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: as Batman. Great teaser scene. I was genuinely shocked it
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: was in the movie because most teaser scenes are not.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: But it's really again, it's similar to the jacket scene
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: with Bruce and Gordon in the beginning they'd have to
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: just Bruce just shows up and just holding Gordon's hand
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: in the hospital that I think it's so wonderful and
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: so like again this great human moment of like I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: have to respect Gay. There you go, there you go.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I have to respect Jesus, I have to respect this guy,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Like this guy is a human, public person in a
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: role of power. Took the rest to be part of
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And I just love that, Like even
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: though Bruce is wearing a mask. It's just like I
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: have to, I have to go see him is so great?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I just really I don't. I find that really like
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: like the John Blakes and I found it really moving
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: where it's like for a guy who was not considered
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to be a humanistic director, these are small moments that
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: are not epic movie scenes.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. Then is it? The next one
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: is when he goes to the Miranda's Tate fundraiser.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Right, but they first show Alfred.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: What's the puke king?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Most way you.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Could you see Michael Old, Michael Way, Michael Way, Michael Caine.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Puke is not gonna be good?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Could you give me a.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Minute of our eight?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: No?
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Was the.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Was the camera dysfunction before he goes into the event
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: when Bruce walks in, and then like the way when
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: the cameras.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: All the cameras breaks. I thought that was so cool.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: So it's revealed that through conversation that Miranda Tate is
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: having a fundraiser Maria and Colet Yard and Catwoman is
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: there trying to She has a mark who's like this
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: really rich dude, and it's like a masquerade ball. So
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Catwoman is wearing her this.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Movie, Batman returns, I'm just gonna.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Say, yeah, just gonna say and she's looking awesome. She's
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: dancing with this rich old dude, and Bruce says, like,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: can I cut in? So they cut in and they
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: have an amazing dance conversation. So the end, when she's
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: talking about there's a storm coming, that's I have that
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: line written down, but do you remember like what they
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: were talking about?
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: So she he cut in because she had stolen the
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: pearl necklace when she's wearing and he's talking about how like,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: scuse being quote unquote I neath this back or whatever, but.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: I'm struggling with my sexual identity, really gonna needing to
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: bring the nachos back.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: But she's saying about how like she's like calling him
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: out as being a fraud if you care about people,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: like why are you here? And she's like saying, who
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: are you pretending to be?
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: But she says to him, well, really, I'm Batman truth.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: So he says, there's a storm coming, mister Wayne, You're
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: so large and leave so little for the rest of us.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: To fucking great line.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: So I said this came out on twenty twelve, and
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I send this video to Ben and I go, Ben,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: how relevant is this moment? And it shows at this
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: gala there's like a rich guy and that tucks an
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: old rich guy in it tucks laughing and like cracking
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: crab claws. Yes, and you hear in Hathaway say, do
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: you think all of this can last? There's a storm coming,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: mister Wayne, and you and your friends better batten down
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: the hatches because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: how you ever thought you could live so large and
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: leave so little for the rest of us. And I
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: was like, this is now, this is right now.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Well this was Occupy Wall Street thing. This is yeah,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: a big time like this time, which is prior to it,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: but still at the time.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: And guess what didn't get better from here? No? Really?
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I also love this move when like she leaves, but
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: explain what happens here when she leaves, because she leaves
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: the gala and then he leaves and.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: That that horny old bastard, you get her away, You
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: get her away.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bang her tonight, supposed to meet her. Yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: but he goes to leave and he's like where is
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: my Oh, I don't have my car keys another Giler moments, Yeah, yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: your wife took them.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: This shock moment was my wife, my wife, and it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Cuts a catwoman like driving his Ferrari throughout Gotham. Amazing
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: because she she knows at this point like something's up
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: with him because he never called the cops.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: On when do you will get through this? But when
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: do you think she knows he's Batman?
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I actually think this is one of the flaws of
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the movie that she seems to be shocked when Baine
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: tells her I agree, and I'm like, uh, sort of
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: At the end with Jim too.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Her performance is so confident and so great, I'm like,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I kind of think she knows for maybe like the
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: second scene she meets him and she's like this guy
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: is probably him, but.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Then it shows she's shocked when and then same at
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the end when he's like Jim, it's me, Bruce, I'm Batman,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: and Jim's like brusshu oh, Wayne, I'm Bruce Wayne. That's
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: how I afford all this ship and Jim's like, Bruce
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Wayne Batman.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: We will get to that moment, and it's But I
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: love this movie.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: It is infuriating, so Alfred h Bruce like calls Alfred
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: to come pick him up in the rolls Royce and
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: he says, she she stole my Lamborghini. And then Alfred says, well,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: you know, it takes a while to get back in
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: the swing of thing.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Great joke worth worth doing.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: So he goes. He's so Alfred's like, why don't you
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: just like go to your company and talk to Lucius.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: He goes and talks to Lucious more.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Too, the Lucious in this movie.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: My opinion, Lucious, I love how Eric sent us that
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I was right. It's my theory.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: It's just it was right. But like people are getting it.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: So he goes and talks to Lucious about how the
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: company's going, and he said. Lucius says, usually these meetings
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: end with an unusual request, and Bruce says, I'm retired,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: and then Lucius goes, all right, I'm going to show
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: you a bunch of shit.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Before that even happens, when Lucia says, I'm talking
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: about morianitatic. She's also quite lovely. It's the second person
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: to tell Bruce, like, hey, you should really be into her.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Why not? But like she's hot as hell.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: But the movie it's too it's too I don't know
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: the movie itself, it's too blatant.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I actually said, like when she first showed up at
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: the gala and she turned and you saw her side profile,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I said out loud, like I think I was watching
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: with Shannon. I said, Mamma Mia, like Marian Coultiard.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Hello, how about an Italian phrase for a French actor,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Mama Mia.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I should have said swing.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: That's actually a better response. Yeah, so you go play mommy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Morgan Freeman says, so, basically, I have this giant drone
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: that can be operated by a person I called the
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: bat and yes, mister Wayne, it comes and.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes so bat.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: So now Bruce is like, hey, Alfred, good news, I'm
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Batman again. And Alfred's like, I don't like this, and uh,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: clearly Bruce is talking about Baine, and Alfred says, you know, like,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I think you're much like you underestimated the Joker. He
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't say, the Joker much like you underestimated the Joker,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: you're probably underestimating Baine. You should hear more about him.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: And Bruce says, I am all ears, which I think
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: is a bat joke because bats are all ears.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So Alfred, knowing the entire Baine backstory, what do
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: you think of that?
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I had to note here Ryan. So also,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: he goes, don't you think you should have more about biting?
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: And Bruce is like, sure, yeah, I guess you're right.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: You just nailed the pain performance. Keep going, keep going
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: through it, do it to it and it goes.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Fris goes, Okay, Alfred sure, like, what do you got
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: for me? Keep in mind Bruce is the best in
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: a pit versus the best detective in the entire world.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: And Alfred goes, well, there's this ancient prison with a
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: pit in the middle of it. And I wrote down,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: how does he know this? How does he know that?
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I stole beer, but he's on the ground. No,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: he's on the chair.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: You spilled it on the ground.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: No, it's a right, A right, Oh good. I love this.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It was just saying earlier Michael Caine needs no visual
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: because when he said this, I bought it in the theater.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he knows it.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I was. There was a boy who was
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: thrown in a prison in a pit in the desert
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: and it's like, how do you know this?
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Imagine you can't wear a mask?
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Uh. And Bayin was too extreme for So the League
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: of Shadows is what roj All goal, Raychelle goal and
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Batman begins. Liam Neeson was the head of us, so
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: he says Bayin was too Alphred says Bane was too
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: extreme for the League of Shadows. They kicked him out.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: And basically, Bain is the blink. So when you look
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: in the abyss, the abyss stares back at you. So
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Bain is the thing coming out of the abyss staring
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: back at you. Sometimes a man rises from the darkness.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the pit sends something back. So this perspective of
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: you stared into the abyss and the abyss stared back
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: at you, the abyss staring back at you, like is Bane.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Bain is basically if you are a person who is
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: devoid of hope or love or anything. And Bruce says,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: you're afraid that if I go back out there, I
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: will fail, And Alfred says, no, I'm afraid that you
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: won't to He basically has no reason to live. Rachel's gone,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: and he kind of just wants to go out there
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: and die. As Batman which I think is not unusual
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: because the Robert Pattinson Batman movie shows that he very
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: much has a death wish pretty much, so he kind
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: of wants it. How can you not have a death wish?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Ad be doing this?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I just like this movie, like the movie itself, not
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: so much like the characterization or whatever. The person looking
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: back in me thissus Bane. Does this movie sell it?
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: When like, I just don't know?
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: To me, like I just don't like, Well, I'm not
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: spoil anything. But we find out it's not Bane.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Again, the movie itself doesn't do a great job with it.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Sure, that's fine. And then up next we see Glenn Powell.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: What the fuck let's do? I have no idea who's
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: in this? Glenn? He's a like broker on like the
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Gotham Stock Exchange, and a motorcycle delivery driver who is
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: conspicuously like the size of a fuck house. A motorcycle
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: delivery driver who is as why as a door frame
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: with a leather jacket and helmet on walks into the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: stock exchange.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Kruper's friends with my theory.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're like, hey, what's up, what's going on? And uh,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: it's Bain. He's wearing a disguise. I love this line.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: So Bain and his goons hold the stock exchange up
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: with guns and they go, this is the stock exchange.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: There's no money to steal here, and he says, really,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: then why are you people here? Great point.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: They'll show this later again. I have some comments about
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: that moment.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I said, I wrote, I wrote, Bain's kind of right
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: so far.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: He's definitely right and like also fine. I also love
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like after the stock exchange, they're like, let's go mobile
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: when he like leaves and Glenn Powell's friend who's like
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: getting his shoeshine with him is holding Baine's helmet and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: he's walking on. Just goes a plus moment.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I really like. The cops are talking about what's going on,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: and they said this is every somebody says everyone's money
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: is in here, and then a coup goes, really, my
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: money's under my mattress and the guy says, oh yeah,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: well the money under your mattress is about to be
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: worth a lot less.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: So I love this next part. So they're waiting on
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: to tide. The sockets changed. The motorcycle is what bains
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: gang explodes out. It starts this great Chase wonderful scene.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I love when they're just going on that tunnel and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: excuse me, you're it too.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: There's been a big swing with that three. That was
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: your three. That was a big swing. You were you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: were at negative too, like two weeks ago.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: We should probably never do this again in person. But
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: so they're going under.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I blame the Kelsey's you're drinking garage beer this actually
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: also sorry not to detail you. So Ben Stiller was
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: on the I don't listen to the Kelsey podcast, but
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I saw a clip again, I guess that Travis Kelcey
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: like one of his favorite movies ever is Heavyweights. So
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Ben Stiller was on and he was asking him about
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Heavyweights and ben Stiller was like, why do you love
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: this so much? And Jason Kelsey who Jason Kelsey is
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: the one that's not Mary to Taylor Swift, who's like
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: bigger and bearded and was alignment and yeah, yeah, So
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Travis was like when I was growing up, Jason was
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: in really good shape and he was my older brother,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: and I was like the fat, clumsy kid, and I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: just identified with Heavyweights so much. And Ben Stiller was like, really,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: like you who are married to Taylor Swift, who was
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: like a big muscular tight end, We're like the chubby kid,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: and he goes, yeah, we kind of switched because, like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Jason started playing a role where he had to be fat,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: because if you're alignment, you have to be fat. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: so like when we got older, the better we got
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: at football, Like the fatter Jason got and the skinnier
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: and more like muscular I got. But I just thought
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: it was really funny.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. Sounds like Ben Stiller is like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: surprised people like that movie, which is infuriating to me.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to. I don't want to put
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: words in his mouth. But he was like like, like
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Travis was like, did you think I I? Because he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: said to him, I want to talk to you about
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: your biggest masterpiece to me, and he goes go for
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: it and he said Heavyweights. And he was like all right,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and he goes, did you think I was going to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: say Heavyweights? And ben Stillary said, well, normally no, I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought you were gonna say that. But people
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: told me, and people were sending me like TikTok clips
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: that you guys like fucking love Heavyweights, and they said,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: and he goes, weren't you didn't one of you have
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: a Tony Perkins T shirt on at some point on
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: the podcast, and they were like, yes, yes we did.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: It's a It still pisses me off that he thinks
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: that I can't tell. Actually drives me insane. It drives
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: me I can already.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I'm already better than Dodgeball, where you played the same
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: fucking character.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: But like Tony throws glasses in front of the parents,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: like I'm fully committing to him, insane. It's like I'm
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: gonna make fun of your kid in front of my
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: It's he's so deranged. But so the cops, how do
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: we segue?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: So the cops are chasing Batman and I love this
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: so much. There's just two cops in the car. I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: love this movie.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Does this song this is from the Dark? Knight returns? Yes,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: this scene he's in the Dark Knight returns.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: So they're driving chasing Baines guys on motorcycles and this
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: is played by the great Brent Briscoe, who has been
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: in a lot of Sam Raimon movies, David Lynch movies,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: been a character actor for years. And then when I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: love the second the lights turn off. He just know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you know, Batman's be gone for eight years. He's like,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I know there's something else involved, and he's like, boy,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: you are in for a show tonight.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: I love that because the rookie cop goes, why are
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: the lights turning off? And the veteran cop is just
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: so excited. He's like, Oh, this is gonna be great.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Finally we got some good good time today. Yeah. He's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: also I made a huge mistake. He's also JJ from
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: JJ's Diner in Parks and rec to all the fans
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: out there, Oh okay, but so that they have a chase.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Batman shows up. Wonderful moment, takes on the guys in
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: the bikes.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: I love.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: But still that cop who's with him gets out and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: shoots Batman and it's just like whatever he shoots him
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: with just like falls out.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Well, he shoots his gun. Batman is using a like
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: gun that will turn off electronics if you shoot them,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: and he shoots his gun and Batman just looks at
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: him and goes like what the fuck.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: But but all the I love the guy, the same
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: guy who was like hearing for short, like, what what
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: the hell are you doing? Get back in the car, like,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: don't don't touch this thing.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, And then so Batman gets cornered on his motorcycle
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: and he's completely surrounded by a thousand cops and he
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: makes he finds a little too fortunate, like you know
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: those those tractor trailers that carry vehicles, and there's kind
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: of a ramp where you can go up and like
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: lock your.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Car to force it. But I can say this when
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: he's being chased in this moment, just seeing that line
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: of a thousand cop cars looks incredible.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: It looks so good. So he takes a jump off
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: of this truck and then he goes down an alleyway
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: and turns his lights off. So like nine hundred million
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: cops are blocking the alleyway and they go this is
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: a dead end alleyway. He can't possibly escape, uh, And
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: they're waiting for you know what the next move is,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you just see the bat,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: which is basically like an enormous drone that can a
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: person can sit in.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: What do you think of this the Bat? Yeah?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I loved it for the purposes of this movie. Really Yeah, Wow,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: you didn't like it? No, how's up? How's up?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I always love that like, as I said in the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Dark Knight Pod, I always have a heart for the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: tumblr I was the pod was like, this is the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: perfect Batman moment. Excuse me, I think the bat pod
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: is I'm sorry, the the bat is a little too
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: cheating to me.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry again, Like.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: That's probably just me being pastive, that's me being very nipicky,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: but like it's a little too cheating.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I would say my argument would be, Okay, so Batman
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: throughout every version of Batman ever has the batplane. He
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: has he hasn't in Batman.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: One, but really used it like this one's like I'm
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: gonna like later we'll see.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Like, but but why would he have a plane that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: you would have to like use a runway to take off?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: And then like how would that ever be how would
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: that ever be practical? You would more have like a
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: fighter jet, which fighter jets can kind of move around
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: like a druma when that when you know their their
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: uh jet propulsion engine things or pointing downwards. But like
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: this would make more sense practically and also with drone technology.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Now I think this age is even better.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I have no like, but it's kind of cheating.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I feel I functionally think it's like it looks. Also
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: actually it's just I'm wrong visually, I think it looks
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: pretty awful. But I get like that, I get the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: functionality of these movies. But I just I just truly
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: missed the tumblr. I really do.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, it only we only got it in one.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Really two, we barely got it, but two bought the.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Moment when the bad pod births the bursts. I'm sorry
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: that bat the tumblr burst the batpod. Yeah great, and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: like you okay, like you can't get that back. I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: just didn't understand that. Like lame LUs talk, this also
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: was a big part of the whole, like the fully
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: character rock like no, no, no, fuck being I'm gonna
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: catch Batman, like Batman's bigger, a bigger fish to catch,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna tell truth.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: But some people, like some people don't care about there's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: red ball cases, like red ball is you know, all
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: the media cares about it the most. Some cops would
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: rather solve our one red ball about a little white
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: girl than like twenty five normal murders about black girls,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I think Matthew Modine
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: is just kind of a scumbag and just was like, well,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: if we can, I don't fuck bane. If I catch Batman,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on worldwide news.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: So going back to weird list guy, what's his name.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Rolling Daggett, Rolling Daggon different character than the anime series
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: from my understanding, Yeah.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I don't remember him.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: In the Mind series, Daggett was the think the creator
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: of clay faces and makeup.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, we should talk about that in a second. But
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: basically everything that she was doing was to get what
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: is called like clean slate technology, whereas there's this hacker
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: technology that will delete all of your criminal records and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: all records of you throughout the entire world on the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Internet forever, and which would is very unrealistic and impossible.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: And she basically he basically tells her like I made
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: this up. This does not exist, like this is a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: pipe dream, and she wants a clean slate for which
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: is something that again going back to the Occupied Wall
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Street and the mentality nowadays, this is something that poor
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: people never get. Poor people don't get us clean slate.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: If you have bad credit, if you got arrested once
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: for what loitering, like whatever, you're fucked and there's no
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: way you can escape it, because our society is built
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: in a way that punishes poor people and benefits rich people.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and so like this clean slate. Poor people
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: don't get this, You're fucked. And Catwoman was very much
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: born poor because in the what does she call what
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: does she call a beiza? Did she call it like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: a bisa or something? She's talking about a beza at
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: some point and she calls it a biser. She pronounces
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: it wrong, and Bruce says, it's a visa. You should
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: correct that because people will think that you're not a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: social climber. They'll figure out that you're actually a criminal
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: because she's coming to Yes, she is Catwoman. It's vaguely
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: implied in this movie that she's a prostitute and she
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: comes from very very poor beginnings. So she's opposite background
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: of Bruce. And I want to explain like this fight
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: scene and when he when Batman appears and says no guns,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: no killing.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: So she's robbing the bank of Daggett. I think the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: guy's name is I'm sorry, animated series is rolling Daggett.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Was this guy named John Daggett in this movie? Am
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I wrong?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: What was you had a nickname for him that you
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: texted me.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: I can't remember. I remember it rhymed, but it was
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Daggett this something do you remember? You know it was
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: the word you had a nickname for the character and
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: rhyme with Daggett.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Jag at the accuser. What do you mean?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe that's what it was.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know what, I just got this, I got
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: I got this quote unquote joke never mind, what what
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: do you mean? Where God jeded I come back to life.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: So this reminds me of when I say, I say
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: something to Shannon like I would never punch a child
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: in the face. She goes, don't say that, and I go, no, no, no,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I said I would never. I would never do it. Like,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: what do you mean?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Like I'm creating the experience by saying it, Yes, exactly,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: So she robs da Oh. She's attempting to rob Daggett
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: for the clearing device. He has the worst plot moment
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: ever where it's like, what do you mean that the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: device that will erase your history, credit cards, bank statements.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but we get like we got we
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: like we don't need to do And while she's doing
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: this because Daggon is tied to Baine. A bunch of
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: like soldiers show up and she's like, she's she's just
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: something to him and she's like, I'm not part of this,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: and Batman's like they know, they just don't care, and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: they have It's a good point. They are a pretty
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: rough fight scene. And can we also comment this is
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the the debut of the Catwoman suit for this movie.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: What do you think of it?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I actually love it because, uh, it's practical. I love
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: that her cat ears are actually like goggles that. Yeah,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really cool.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: What're you think of the heels?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: I thought they were impractical and unrealistic. But you can't
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: make this character totally realistic and functional. That's part of
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: the thing. It's like, somebody, calm, all those heels must
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: make it hard to walk, and it's like, no, you
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: don't understand. She's basically like a fucking gymnast Ninja. I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: liked it. I thought she was an awesome Catwoman.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I actually think she's the most underrated part of this
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: entire series. Yeah, she doesn't get she gets a lot
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: of career for this, but still I think it's not enough.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: So there was a you know those stupid YouTube pulls. Yeah,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: and it goes it said who is the best catwoman?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Michelle Pfeiffer, halle Berry, halle Berry, Anne Hathaway or Zoe
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Kravitz and Zoe Kravitz was two, and I thought, I
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: mean Zoey Kravitz like exudes catwoman vibes. Yeah, but it
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Hathaway was great.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: How she's executed in this movie is so much better
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: in my opinion.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: So then like Baine and his goons come out with
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: guns and they jump in the bat and a catwoman says,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: my mother always taught me not to get in cars
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: with the strange men, and Batman says, this isn't a car,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: and then they lift up and fly away.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: It's the bad, not the part of the tumbler. I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: need you to know what you.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Did with Bruce Wayne's prince And she says, uh, well,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: I was training it for this clean slate, but I
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: got fucking scammed. And then he says, I don't many
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: people get the better of you. And then he turns
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: and she she has disappeared on him. Fucking great moment,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: He says, So that's what that feels like? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: So how much do we have left? Oh, my god, left? Yeah,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: we do, we do? We I think we're I think
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: we have like two hours left. No, we don't have
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: two hours left. Hold on, I gotta pause. We're gonna end.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: On this scene, he's talking to Alfred and he says,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Alfred's like, you really need to be careful about Baine,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: and he says, listen, Rachel goal is the League of
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Shadows and I beat him. Baine is just a mercenary
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: and uh. Then they start talking about Rachel and Alfred's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: like basically, listen she he was like, Rachel died knowing
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: she wanted to be with me and I would stop
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: being batman, So I need to do this for Rachel.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: And Alfred's like, listen, bro, she wrote a letter saying
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: she didn't want to be with you, and I burned
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: it because I thought you'd be so emo about it.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: And then he goes, how dare you use Rachel to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: try and stop me?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I love I love this line so much from Alfred
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: where he says, like it means your hatred, it also
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: means losing someone that I've cared for since I've heard
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: first heard his cries echo throughout this house. But it
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: also might mean saving her life, and that is more important.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I love that so much. Also, Alfred, here a question
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: about the video that Alfred shows him. Well, video, Alfred,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: it's like talking about how like Baine is truly executably incredible.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Alfred is fighting I'm sorry, excuse me. Wow, I would
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: love that better. Actually Bain is fighting Wall Street security guards. Yeah,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: that I'm gonna guess, don't have nineteen years of ninja training.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Who he recks with a motorcycle helmet. Yeah, and he's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: like be careful of him. It's like, well, yeah, wouldn't
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: he not do this? I always found that kind of
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: like weird.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: I agree, And Alfred is a great line. How about
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: we all try to stop outsmarting the truth and let
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: it have its wonderful line. Fantastic line about Also about
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: the whole DWN thing too, it's so great. Yeah, so
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: I don't really love that. And anyways, so yeah, I
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: think we should we bring it to a part three now.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: I can't wait, but yes, wow, what do you want
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: to say?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: No, I just can't wait. We'll be lost.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, should be well, let's leave it, let's let's stop here.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: So Bruce like catwoman uses uh stole his fingerprints so
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Daggett could authorize these trades. And he authorizes these trades
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: as Bruce using the fingerprints and loses all the company's money.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: So then the board of directors, thinking Bruce did it,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: votes him out. And board of director's corner, my wife
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: watching this movie, goes that you can they can't just
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: kick him out like that, like they have to be
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: There has to be a vote. There's a lot involved,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: and I go, all right, settled down.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: They should just send an email.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and Bruce tells Blake at some point anyone
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: could be Batman. That's the point. It doesn't need to
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: be me, which is important foreshadowing, And they say, uh
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: so I think is that Marion Cotillard shows up at
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: the house and it's talking to him and she goes,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: so what happens to the house and he says, actually
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I get to keep the house and she responds, so
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: the rich don't go bro, No, it's it's catwoman that
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: says this isn't it.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: No, it's I thought I thought. Lucius and Bruce show
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: her the fusion reactor. Tate, Yes, yes, we need your
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: take over a CEO, because.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, Miranda needs to take over CEO.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I have credibility.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: As you just said, we have this really important fusion reactor.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Then Bruce goes and talks to Catwoman and Catwoman is like,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: you lost all her money, and he goes, actually I
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: get to keep my house and she says, so the
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: rich Nonco broke the same as the rest of us,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: which is true. They do not forget.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: We're forgetting eight Part three.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then I tackle this in part three.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: A great opening for part three is it when they
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: it's one. I think it's the my favorite paying moment
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: maybe ever.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll tackle in part three. All right, catch you
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: on the fur kay,