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Leadership and Rivalry | Huddle Up: Wednesday, March 22 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The fields at A Brook proudly presents Puddle Up with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, j P Shadrick, John Ojer and NFL Network
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Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest
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Speaker 1: on George Jackson pill jack Ar. We've got to look
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Speaker 1: to the draft, We've got to look for developing the
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Speaker 1: guys that are currently here, and obviously Utan is running
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Speaker 1: of these guys. As we can. Huddle Up With Bucky
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Speaker 1: Brooks starts right now. All right, welcome into the Huddle
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Speaker 1: Up podcast for Wednesday, March twenty second. This is John
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Speaker 1: Oser along with NFL Networking, Jaguars Media Network handles Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 1: You can give us a listen on the podcast page
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Speaker 1: at Jaguars dot com or on the official Jaguars podcast network,
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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: it's you and me. Buddy. No JP shatter today, he
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Speaker 1: had no JP. So what we're doing is we go
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Speaker 1: try a new tandem. Is j O and BB seen
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Speaker 1: if we can hold it down without JP, and we'll
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Speaker 1: see what this looks like. We'll see, let's see how
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Speaker 1: this sounds, Let's see how we kind of handle it
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Speaker 1: without the point guard available, because it may change the
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Speaker 1: way we go about running the offense. I like the
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Speaker 1: I like the March Madness reference with the point guard.
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Speaker 1: Now who you got the rest of the way, But
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Speaker 1: who's winning the tournament? Well, you know what, John, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you. And look, I'm gonna apologize to the
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Speaker 1: listeners in advance. I'm on my phone because I'm sitting
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Speaker 1: here in NFL Media studios getting ready to do Ohio
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Speaker 1: State's pro deck. But I'm gonna tell you it's Look,
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Speaker 1: it's a It's a fantastic time for me as a
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Speaker 1: tar Heel fan. All of my hopes, wishes, and desires
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Speaker 1: were for Field. Last weekend. I saw the Mighty Blue
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Speaker 1: Devils go down. I actually saw anc State the wolf
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Speaker 1: Back go down. Almost all of the teams are the
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Speaker 1: acc are out of it. So now I can just
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Speaker 1: watch in peace and enjoy the rest of the tournament
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Speaker 1: because none of my nemesis are going to win the title.
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Speaker 1: See I remember this from my day. I still followed Carolina,
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Speaker 1: but back when I was in college, I was a
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Speaker 1: huge Carolina fan. Went to school up there for a year,
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Speaker 1: not there, but another school, and I do remember the
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Speaker 1: bitterness and the pettiness of Tar Hill fans was always strong,
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Speaker 1: and I see you still got that. Like they're out
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Speaker 1: of it. It's almost good. It's almost as good for
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Speaker 1: you when Duke loses, isn't it. Not all the time,
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Speaker 1: but just this particular time, because what I didn't want
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Speaker 1: to happen was, you know, they kind of paid it
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Speaker 1: back for last year when we beat them coach a
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Speaker 1: senior nighte. We also sent them out in the final four.
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Speaker 1: So the thing that couldn't happen was for them to
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Speaker 1: win the ACC tournament and then go back and win
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Speaker 1: the national title while Carolina is sitting out. We could
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Speaker 1: not have that, so I only rooted against them this year.
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Speaker 1: Normally doesn't bother me at all, but this year I
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Speaker 1: certainly wanted them to go home. And anytime NC State
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Speaker 1: goes home, it is always a wonderful day for me. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I got you. So you hate NC State more than Duke.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, I hate them all, to be honest. But
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Speaker 1: if the state it's in my hometown, right, it's your hometown, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's my hometown I grew up. Everyone wanted to go there.
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Speaker 1: A lot of my high school buddies went there and
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Speaker 1: so I never really dug it, and so they've been
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Speaker 1: kind of a rival for me personally. It's also surround
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Speaker 1: for Carolina and in Duke the robbery is in Kent
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Speaker 1: primarily because of the basketball thing. So all of those
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Speaker 1: schools are in the triangle, so within thirty miles apart.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you don't want any of those schools to
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Speaker 1: do well because then you got to hear about it
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Speaker 1: all the time all right. Time to turn, obviously to
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Speaker 1: Jaguars free agency, and I guess that's why we're talking
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Speaker 1: into LA tournaments so much. There there is uh scarce
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Speaker 1: little news in Jaguars free agency. I get why they're
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Speaker 1: doing that. I like that approach, Bucky. I know you're
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Speaker 1: an NFL guy, so you understand it. Just to recap
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Speaker 1: some news earlier this week, Jaguars did resign cornerback Trey Herndon.
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Speaker 1: They did resign defensive tackle Adam Gotsis this fall, those
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Speaker 1: resigning Andrew Wingard last week, and CJ. Bethard Evan Ingram's
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Speaker 1: tagged JA Michael Hasty has resigned. So they brought guys back,
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Speaker 1: but they lost Juan Taylor to the Chiefs, lost Chris
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Speaker 1: man Hurts to the Broncos, and most notably since we talked,
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Speaker 1: Bucky lost arden Key to the Titans. You know, everybody's
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Speaker 1: freaking out over this, every ozone email I get now,
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Speaker 1: and he was okay when they didn't sign Juan they
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Speaker 1: understood Man Hurts and the arden Key thing got to people.
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Speaker 1: Bucky and people are panickings saying what are they doing?
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Speaker 1: Reason for concern expected what's your take on this? I
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Speaker 1: will say that arden Key was just being on the sideline.
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Speaker 1: He was a great leader on the field. He did
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Speaker 1: a really good job of like helping the young guys,
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Speaker 1: pulling them together. He brought energy to the team. He
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Speaker 1: certainly had the making for the appearance of being a
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Speaker 1: glue guy. Now, a lot of people would look at
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Speaker 1: the box scorn and say, hey, well, he didn't really
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Speaker 1: impact the team because he only had what's twenty half sacks.
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Speaker 1: It's not like he's a double sector. But there is
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Speaker 1: value to having what I call those core guys, those
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Speaker 1: guys who kind of understand when the step up and
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Speaker 1: say certain thing when it needs to be said. Guys
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Speaker 1: who also have the capacity to make plays when a
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Speaker 1: play is there to be made and even though he
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Speaker 1: may not kind of be like the old school Tony
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Speaker 1: Brackens of Kevin Hardy or big time player like Kalis Campbell,
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Speaker 1: he certainly was a very important piece of the posal
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Speaker 1: last year and so that will need to be replaced.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the Jaguars can't move on because
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Speaker 1: Art and ki Is no longer are part of it,
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Speaker 1: but it will take someone a veteran to kind of
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Speaker 1: step up and feel some of the void that will
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Speaker 1: be created by his departure. Here's my thought on this, Buck,
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Speaker 1: when you talk about that, and I agree with you
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Speaker 1: about Arden, I think he wanted to stay from some
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Speaker 1: of his comments this week. I think he was a
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Speaker 1: little hurt that it didn't work out that he stayed.
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Speaker 1: But I also get it from the Jaguars perspective. They've
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Speaker 1: got contracts coming up, and they've got to get back
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Speaker 1: to being draft and developed. They have to get everything
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Speaker 1: in order, if you follow me. But as a you know,
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Speaker 1: here's the thing about Arden. A week end to free
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Speaker 1: agency last year, they hadn't signed arden Key yet he
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Speaker 1: was a second tier guy one year contract. They went
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Speaker 1: out and filled a gap in free agency with a
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Speaker 1: savvy offseason move. You know, that's sort of what you
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Speaker 1: have to do every year now, right, don't they just
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Speaker 1: have to sort of do that again at that spot,
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Speaker 1: either through the draft or maybe even third tier free agency.
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Speaker 1: You know, I guess on paper, I think you should
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Speaker 1: be able to go out and get the three or
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Speaker 1: four sacks that they lost with him, Although I also
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Speaker 1: get your point. I don't know that you replace what
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Speaker 1: he brought on the sidelines, But I just mean in
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Speaker 1: terms of as you move forward, when you lose a
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Speaker 1: guy like that, it's sort of the role of the
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Speaker 1: GM to figure out how to replace it, just like
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Speaker 1: they did last year when they got him. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean it is on the gym, it's on trym ball, kids,
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Speaker 1: on Doug Peterson to kinda identify and find those guys
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Speaker 1: that can kill those those roles. I will say that
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Speaker 1: the one thing about leadership is you never know who's
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Speaker 1: actually going to be your leader. As much as we
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Speaker 1: like to think leaders are the best players, a lot
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Speaker 1: of times they're not. They're the guys that do the
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Speaker 1: dirty work that no one else wants to do, but
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Speaker 1: they're willing to do it because it helps the team.
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Speaker 1: And so I understand why Arton was hurt because being
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Speaker 1: on the sideline watching him in the locker room. But man,
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Speaker 1: I really felt like he was a guy that was
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Speaker 1: really a Jaguar. It didn't work out. They couldn't agree
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Speaker 1: to terms, and so now you have to turn to
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Speaker 1: page and so the bitterness that he feels. Look, there
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Speaker 1: are plenty of players that I have there. They're plenty
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Speaker 1: of guys that want to continue to be on the
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Speaker 1: team that are no longer there, and so you kind
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Speaker 1: of have to get over that. But I will say
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Speaker 1: from the Jaguars perspective, it's going to be really important
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Speaker 1: to find a guy that can do what he does,
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Speaker 1: not only in the locker room in terms of the
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Speaker 1: leadership is at an example, but also in terms of
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Speaker 1: being able to be that personal player that could play
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Speaker 1: inside and outside and give you the kind of production
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Speaker 1: I guess the run and the past if he was
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Speaker 1: able to provide and you know what Buck I mean again,
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Speaker 1: I got to new Ardon a little bit. He was
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Speaker 1: on a new his own podcast late in that I
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Speaker 1: really like the guy. But it'll also be I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's okay for him to be sort of a chip
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Speaker 1: on the shoulder that he left. It's okay for that
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Speaker 1: to add a little spice to the rival. Isn't this
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Speaker 1: supposed to be kind of fun on that front sometimes, Bucky? Well, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the support of the deal. It
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Speaker 1: should be a little contentious. There is always going to
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Speaker 1: be some back and forth when one player leads to
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Speaker 1: go to division rival and you have an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: see them a couple of times a year. The fact that, look,
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Speaker 1: there's already history between the Jaguars and Tennessee Titans. The
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Speaker 1: fact that we knocked him off to go into the
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Speaker 1: postseason while they had to go home. Man, you have
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Speaker 1: the added layer where Arden he will make it a
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Speaker 1: very personal deal, but everyone who plays their formular team
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Speaker 1: makes it personal. It'd be a situation that we'll get
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Speaker 1: a lot of conversation maybe leading up to the game. Well,
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Speaker 1: once it's kicked off, it shouldn't have to be the
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Speaker 1: impact something you said, I just sort of struck me,
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Speaker 1: and you know, maybe I'm just dim and I missed it.
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Speaker 1: But for years we talked about here about the Titans
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Speaker 1: being arrival of the Jaguars, but the reality is they
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Speaker 1: hadn't beaten him in five years. It really wasn't much
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Speaker 1: of a rivalry. What's a rivalry now with you know,
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Speaker 1: with this happening with the game at the end of
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Speaker 1: last season, you've make the argument this is, you know,
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Speaker 1: as good as this rivalry has been maybe in twenty years.
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Speaker 1: I mean now, with apologies twenty seventeen, the Titans beat
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Speaker 1: the Jags twice that year. Uh, you know, so maybe
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Speaker 1: that year counts, But I would say the games next
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Speaker 1: year are going to be as emotional in this rivalry
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Speaker 1: as they've been you know, maybe twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 1: but this is going to go back to the nineties. Now. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it should absolutely be pretty spicy. And I mean that's
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Speaker 1: what you want. And if you're the Jaguars, like that's
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Speaker 1: kind of part of the process. Part of the process
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Speaker 1: when you become a really good team and a team
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Speaker 1: that as a perennial playoff contender, is you go from
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Speaker 1: being to feel good story to the team that everyone
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Speaker 1: loves you to something you become the team that people
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Speaker 1: hate you. And so we're not quite there yet. But
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Speaker 1: as you begin to win and as you begin to
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Speaker 1: have success, people as much as Americans love successful entities,
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Speaker 1: they also hate them. And so there's gonna be some
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Speaker 1: of that bitterness, and I think everybody in Jacksonville has
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Speaker 1: to be okay with that, Like that's a part of
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Speaker 1: the deal. When you're a good team, everybody's not going
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Speaker 1: to love you and take comedy tea. We'll probably look
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Speaker 1: back on the stiff arm by Trevor up in Nashville
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Speaker 1: at it as the moment when this rivalry really started
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Speaker 1: up again. Oh absolutely, yeah. I mean I think that
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Speaker 1: that certainly will have a lot to do with that
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Speaker 1: part of when you think about just what the Jags
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Speaker 1: were able to do going to the playoffs, doing all
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Speaker 1: that other stuff, knocking them off the way that we
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Speaker 1: knock them off. Oh yeah, that's the fun part. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, my guy will be a little bitter, he'd
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Speaker 1: be upset, but it's fine. Art Key was a good player.
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Speaker 1: He made great contributions. But we'll figure it out. Here's
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Speaker 1: my thing, and we'll go to break in a minute.
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Speaker 1: As much as I like arden I just feel like
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Speaker 1: you're supposed to be able to replace a player on
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Speaker 1: the level of arden Key. He's a very good player,
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Speaker 1: very valuable player. But that's sort of the art and
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Speaker 1: the story of each team each year. Somebody knew has
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Speaker 1: to come along and replace that leadership that he gave.
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Speaker 1: Replace those sacks. Good teams are able to replace that
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Speaker 1: when they lose that each offseason. It's a storyline. But
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Speaker 1: to me, Bucky, I don't think it should be one
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Speaker 1: that they shouldn't be able to overcome. So, yeah, look,
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Speaker 1: it's a storyline, but you're absolutely right, UH should be
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Speaker 1: able to overcome. It shouldn't be that big of a deal.
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Speaker 1: Should be one where you can find a way to
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Speaker 1: get it done without him. But it does put the
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Speaker 1: onus on somebody, an older player, to take on some
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Speaker 1: of the leadership responsibilities. All right, I got it. I
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Speaker 1: guess I'm special coming for you, Bucky. I have a read.
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Speaker 1: One's gonna do a read now. That's okay, that's radio terms.
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Speaker 1: I mean great, that was one of the best read.
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Speaker 1: Uh that be bad? I mean I think I think
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Speaker 1: you should probably do more of that stuff. I think
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Speaker 1: a pro. I mean it's it's uh, shatter's got some competition,
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Speaker 1: that's all JP pip of it. On a serious note,
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Speaker 1: has your opinion of this team changed it all based
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Speaker 1: on what they did or didn't do in free agency.
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Speaker 1: And I know it was quiet, but did you expect more?
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Speaker 1: Are your thoughts different now than maybe they were two
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Speaker 1: weeks ago? No? I mean, I think when you're a
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Speaker 1: good team, free agency is a spot where you go
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Speaker 1: and you accentuate what you already had in the fold.
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Speaker 1: When you go back and you look at the way
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are constructed, you cannot talk about free agency
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Speaker 1: in the offseason without talking about Calvin Ridley coming on
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Speaker 1: board with the mid season trade. Didn't see the fruits
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Speaker 1: of the trade right away, but we'll have an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to see it this year. You talk about a premier
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, a guy who was a true number one receiver.
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Speaker 1: He is an upgrade. You now take him and add
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Speaker 1: it to Evan Ingram coming back on the franchise tag.
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirks, A Jones are already in the building. You
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Speaker 1: have Trevor Lawrence, Trevis Nisien already in the fold. Like
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Speaker 1: this offense is ready to go. I know everyone is
15:02
Speaker 1: upset about losing Juwan Taylor, and Jiwan Taylor was a
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Speaker 1: great player. He really played well this season. But if
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Speaker 1: you've done this thing the right way, and you draft
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Speaker 1: and developed, what this is time for Walker little to
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Speaker 1: slide into that spot. You know, took him two years
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Speaker 1: ago as a second round pick. He's had opportunity to
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Speaker 1: start and to play in a spot role. Well, now
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Speaker 1: it's a chance for him to step up and feel
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Speaker 1: that boy. And so if he's done what he's supposed
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Speaker 1: to do and the team is doing what they're supposed
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Speaker 1: to do in terms of building it the right way,
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Speaker 1: we shouldn't feel any of those teams. And then when
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Speaker 1: it comes to the defense, you need the draft pick
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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, Treyvon Walker, you think about Chad Mooman, those
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Speaker 1: guys have to step up. They were drafted early because
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Speaker 1: they respected to be foundational pieces. Well now they have
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Speaker 1: to play at a high level. And so if they
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Speaker 1: developed like we think they will, then there was no
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Speaker 1: need for the Jaguars to be very, very active in
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Speaker 1: free agency because they can answer all of their questions
15:56
Speaker 1: by finding players on their roster to be able to
15:59
Speaker 1: take care of those things. Something you said earlier brings
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Speaker 1: me to a question I was going to ask you. Um,
16:04
Speaker 1: you know, I'm at Ridley a little bit in the offense,
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Speaker 1: the off season program begins and about about four weeks,
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Speaker 1: say four weeks. What's going on now specifically with coaching
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Speaker 1: to prepare for that? And what I'm getting at is,
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Speaker 1: are they sitting there looking at Calvin Ridley's skill set
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Speaker 1: designing things specifically for him? Are they taking things out
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Speaker 1: of the offense based on what didn't work last year,
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Speaker 1: playing to Christian Kirk's strengths. What are the details of that,
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Speaker 1: and how's it really looking in terms of what they're
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Speaker 1: doing well. The good thing about where you're at in
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Speaker 1: the off season you have an opportunity to really paint
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Speaker 1: a blank canvas, meaning you take what you did last year,
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Speaker 1: You take the things that you really like, the things
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Speaker 1: that Trevor did well, the things that some of the
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Speaker 1: other players did really really well, and you said, Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: we know we like that because the players excel to that.
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Speaker 1: What are some of the other things that we can
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Speaker 1: take to build upon what is already a solid foundation.
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Speaker 1: What are the plays that Trevor like, talk to Trevor,
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Speaker 1: have conversations with him, study the Atlanta tape and see
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Speaker 1: some of the things that Kelvin Ridley did well. Okay,
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Speaker 1: how can we take what he did well in Atlanta
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Speaker 1: and naturally or seamlessly transition it into what we do here.
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Speaker 1: And so the off season is a great experimental phase
17:28
Speaker 1: when you get on the field, when you're going through
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Speaker 1: OTAs and mini camps. Some of the stuff that we
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Speaker 1: see the team do, some of the plays and concepts,
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Speaker 1: those are just to get on take. So then you
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Speaker 1: can do a further evaluation to see, hey, do we
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Speaker 1: think we really want to carry this in the regular season.
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Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of that conversation back and
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Speaker 1: forth on what do we like, what do we want
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Speaker 1: to try, how can we expand what we did last year,
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Speaker 1: how can we stay one step ahead of the post
17:54
Speaker 1: when it comes to what we're doing offensively and defensively,
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Speaker 1: and can we do all those those things without bogging
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Speaker 1: down the players by giving them too much information. If
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Speaker 1: you're a fan sitting in the stands, you're watching TV,
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Speaker 1: what will Ridley bring that's going to make this look different? Well,
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Speaker 1: the one thing I think everyone would probably trying to
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Speaker 1: temper expectations, right. The coaches were not trying to put
18:19
Speaker 1: him out there and say, hey, he's gonna be our
18:20
Speaker 1: number one receiver. Re expect him to kind of carry
18:24
Speaker 1: the offense and do those things. But I will say,
18:27
Speaker 1: if Calvin Ridley is anywhere close to the last time
18:30
Speaker 1: we saw him on the field, Calvin Ridley becomes the
18:33
Speaker 1: natural number one receiver in the offense. Calvin Ridle will
18:37
Speaker 1: be the guy that commands a double team. Calvin Ridley
18:39
Speaker 1: will then kind of allow the Jaguars to re establish
18:43
Speaker 1: the pecking order of the passing game meeting Calvin Ridley
18:46
Speaker 1: is the number one, Christian Kurt goes to wide receiver. Two.
18:49
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram is a flex tight end, but he can
18:52
Speaker 1: sometimes be the secondary to Calvin Ridley depending on how
18:55
Speaker 1: the defense plays. And then day Jones just kind of
18:57
Speaker 1: gets in where he fits in and he makes he
19:00
Speaker 1: played because the defense is worried about the other people.
19:03
Speaker 1: And so you now have not only an established pecking order,
19:07
Speaker 1: but you have interchangeable pieces where on one series you
19:10
Speaker 1: can say Calvin you go to flanker, Christian you go
19:13
Speaker 1: to X. Next series, Christian you go to the slot,
19:16
Speaker 1: Calvin you go to XA, Jones you play the Z.
19:19
Speaker 1: And so for the defense it changes how they have
19:23
Speaker 1: to think about attacking. But Doug Peterson always has multiple
19:28
Speaker 1: answers to really address whatever the TACKTI is. When you
19:31
Speaker 1: think about this, this offense can be balanced, it can
19:34
Speaker 1: be diverse, because it can be explosive because now you
19:37
Speaker 1: have an upgrade as the number one receiver spot, and
19:40
Speaker 1: so I would expect it to really take off. But
19:43
Speaker 1: I would say look for that explosion to happen around
19:46
Speaker 1: the middle of the year, after Calvin gets comfortable and
19:49
Speaker 1: settled and used to playing again, Because once he gets
19:53
Speaker 1: settled and comfortable, then I think you'll see that pro
19:55
Speaker 1: Bowl account, the Pro Bowl caliber Calvin show up, and
19:59
Speaker 1: that we'll make a world of difference when you think
20:01
Speaker 1: about this office in the past again. And I think
20:03
Speaker 1: the encouraging thing about that Bucky to me is, you know,
20:09
Speaker 1: I think if Ridley was coming in and there were
20:14
Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns around him, there would be pressure
20:17
Speaker 1: to force him to get to that level you're talking
20:20
Speaker 1: about quickly. But the fact that you've got Christian Kirk,
20:24
Speaker 1: Za Jones, Evan Ingram. Realistically, even if Ridley wasn't coming in,
20:32
Speaker 1: you would look at this offense and think it's probably
20:33
Speaker 1: a top ten offense, So he doesn't need to be,
20:39
Speaker 1: you know, the guy the wide receiver won in the
20:43
Speaker 1: first game because if he wasn't even if he wasn't
20:46
Speaker 1: playing in that game, you would still have the strengths
20:49
Speaker 1: that got you to where you were last year. So
20:51
Speaker 1: it can happen organically. I think it's what you're saying.
20:54
Speaker 1: I think it happen, and I'm gonna say this, and
20:56
Speaker 1: I'm not being disrespectful at all, but at his worst,
20:59
Speaker 1: I ever really comes in and gives you what Marvin
21:01
Speaker 1: Jones gave you. That's great, that offense role, that offense
21:05
Speaker 1: was a top ten offense. However, if Kevin Ridley is
21:08
Speaker 1: close to form, he's a better player than Marvin Jones was,
21:11
Speaker 1: and so then you get a more dynamic playmaker on
21:14
Speaker 1: the perimeter. Man, you talk about an offense that can
21:17
Speaker 1: go from good to great in a hurry. With Trevor Lawrence.
21:20
Speaker 1: Remember being in this second year under Doug Peterson, you
21:24
Speaker 1: would expect there to be significant growth in multiple areas.
21:28
Speaker 1: Quarterback is more comfortable, but now you have an upgraded
21:31
Speaker 1: cast around him. Yeah, I think you should be cautiously optimistic,
21:36
Speaker 1: but this offense should be lights out. This offense should
21:38
Speaker 1: be a top five offense. If everything tran like his training,
21:43
Speaker 1: I maybe making too much of this, and I think
21:45
Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, maybe off the airbuck you,
21:47
Speaker 1: but to put together a receiving corps Ingram Jones Kirk
21:54
Speaker 1: and what you think Ridley's going to be to do
21:57
Speaker 1: that in a basic a twelve month period and do
22:03
Speaker 1: it all through free agency. You study how teams build
22:08
Speaker 1: more than I do. Around the league, I stady the Jaguars.
22:11
Speaker 1: Would you study everybody? That's pretty unusual to do it
22:15
Speaker 1: that way that quickly, is it not? It is unusual,
22:19
Speaker 1: but it's not uncommon when it comes to building around
22:23
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. When you think about the way, let's
22:27
Speaker 1: look at Buffalo Josh Allen's game exploded when they brought
22:31
Speaker 1: in Stefan Diggs. You look at the way that Justin
22:34
Speaker 1: Herbert performs. He's surrounded by Mike Williams and he also
22:38
Speaker 1: has Keenan Allen veteran receivers. The reasons why you want
22:41
Speaker 1: to surround Trevor Lawrence with the veteran established receivers is
22:45
Speaker 1: because there's a level of dependability and reliability that you
22:48
Speaker 1: get from those guys that increases the level of trust
22:51
Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence will have. And so now when he
22:53
Speaker 1: hits the top of his rock, he's willing to let
22:56
Speaker 1: it go because he trusts that the veteran pass catchers
22:59
Speaker 1: are going to be there now. It will eventually flip
23:02
Speaker 1: because as Trevor Lawrence gets closer to the sign of
23:05
Speaker 1: his big deal, then you have to reset and recalibrate
23:09
Speaker 1: how that offense looks. That might mean some younger receivers
23:13
Speaker 1: that he can groom and develop because they're cheaper and
23:15
Speaker 1: the money is going to him. But right now, when
23:18
Speaker 1: he's playing on his rookie deal, you can commit big
23:20
Speaker 1: money to the pass catchers on the perimeter because that
23:23
Speaker 1: is going to guarantee that the quarterback plays at his best.
23:27
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, as a quarterback driven league, when
23:29
Speaker 1: your quarterback plays at a high level, you have an
23:31
Speaker 1: opportunity to get into the tournament and make a run.
23:34
Speaker 1: This approach offensively, Is this going to be a win, shootout,
23:40
Speaker 1: tight team next year? I mean, you know, they average
23:43
Speaker 1: twenty four points a game last year, and you even
23:47
Speaker 1: without Ridley, I had to think the second year jump
23:51
Speaker 1: gets him a couple more points in that. You know,
23:55
Speaker 1: is this just gonna be a team. We've talked about
23:57
Speaker 1: it throughout last season, Bucky, how you're gonna build Is
24:00
Speaker 1: he getting to the point which just gonna be, you know,
24:03
Speaker 1: let's go win a basketball game every week. I don't
24:06
Speaker 1: think it necessarily has to be let's win a basketball game.
24:09
Speaker 1: But let's be honest, because we've seen this happen a
24:11
Speaker 1: few different times. You personally watched it happen during your
24:14
Speaker 1: time previously with the in and out of this coast.
24:17
Speaker 1: Let's say is this if you're saying, we have his
24:19
Speaker 1: twenty four points last year, and let's just say they
24:21
Speaker 1: make a four or five point jump where they go
24:23
Speaker 1: to twenty eight to twenty nine points, Okay, And you're
24:26
Speaker 1: putting the pressure on the offense because remember John Peterson
24:29
Speaker 1: comes from the offense side of the ball. The offense
24:31
Speaker 1: is his baby. He is going to hold those guys
24:33
Speaker 1: to our higher standard, maybe than the other parts of
24:36
Speaker 1: the team. And so those guys have to show up
24:38
Speaker 1: every week and you have to tell them, hey man,
24:40
Speaker 1: we need twenty eight or more points each week. So
24:43
Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, maybe it changes the way that
24:45
Speaker 1: you call the game. On defense, it becomes about the
24:48
Speaker 1: pass rush and the coverage. Don't give up the big plays.
24:51
Speaker 1: Find a way to get off the field in the
24:53
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and we'll win a bunch of games with
24:56
Speaker 1: the scores maybe a little higher than some defensive coaches
25:00
Speaker 1: are comfortable. But if you can hold the team the
25:03
Speaker 1: twenty points or less on defense, while knowing that the
25:06
Speaker 1: offense is going to get you twenty eight or more,
25:08
Speaker 1: you're gonna win a bunch of games. And so I
25:10
Speaker 1: think it becomes not necessarily a less suffocate them and
25:14
Speaker 1: stifle them on defense, more of a less bend. But
25:18
Speaker 1: don't break. Let's turn the ball over, give our offense
25:21
Speaker 1: extra opportunities. But offensively, we want to operate at a
25:25
Speaker 1: high efficient rate so that we put points on the board,
25:28
Speaker 1: particularly anytime we reached the red zone. And I guess
25:30
Speaker 1: you saw some signs of that last year with the
25:34
Speaker 1: turnovers forced by the Jaguars jumping from nine to I
25:38
Speaker 1: think it was twenty nine, or I mean it was.
25:40
Speaker 1: It was a huge jump. I forget what their final
25:42
Speaker 1: number was, but they were third or fourth in the
25:43
Speaker 1: league and takeaways, and it sounds like what you're saying
25:46
Speaker 1: that's going to be sort of have to be. The
25:49
Speaker 1: way they play is by I like to use the
25:52
Speaker 1: term break and serve on defense. Well, look, that's that's
25:56
Speaker 1: a great way to say if you think about because
25:58
Speaker 1: you use the teneth analogy. Yes, whenever you serve in
26:00
Speaker 1: the tennis, you always should win the game. You win
26:03
Speaker 1: the point, you should win the game. And so what
26:04
Speaker 1: you're hoping is that you can break the serve a
26:06
Speaker 1: couple of times and that would be enough for you
26:08
Speaker 1: to be able to win the match. Well, for the Jaguars,
26:12
Speaker 1: now that you're all in on offense, Calvin Rilly Christ
26:15
Speaker 1: and Kirk Evan Ingram Zay Jones, now the pressure is
26:18
Speaker 1: on them. I would expect when we go out the
26:20
Speaker 1: training camp practices, Doug Peterson might be a little more
26:23
Speaker 1: honorary on the offense because he knows that needs needs
26:27
Speaker 1: to get them to operate at a high level. Because
26:30
Speaker 1: if they operate at a high level. Now, from a
26:32
Speaker 1: defensive standpoint one, it eliminates the running game because the
26:36
Speaker 1: opponent has to chase point. It means the ball has
26:39
Speaker 1: to apply in the air. And so from a defensive
26:41
Speaker 1: standpoint it then becomes about the pass rush and the coverage.
26:45
Speaker 1: Can you find a way to hit the quarterback in
26:46
Speaker 1: those obvious passing situations and then in the back end.
26:50
Speaker 1: Can you pick off passes on tips and overthrows due
26:53
Speaker 1: to the rush forcing the quarterback to get rid of
26:55
Speaker 1: the ball under the rest? Yeah, to me, the pass
26:57
Speaker 1: rush becomes this team's biggest, biggest storyline going in the
27:01
Speaker 1: next season. And I don't think we'll no answers until then,
27:04
Speaker 1: but that'll be the storyline to me. Tell me about
27:05
Speaker 1: your day, Bucky. I know you're covering the High State
27:09
Speaker 1: Pro Day. How many Pro days are you doing in
27:11
Speaker 1: this capacity for antofil on network? And what are your
27:13
Speaker 1: thoughts on today? Okay, So it's a big week. It's
27:16
Speaker 1: a big week job because all about the quarterbacks. I've
27:19
Speaker 1: known you well enough to know that you love the
27:21
Speaker 1: quarterback and so America loves the quarterback. So we have
27:24
Speaker 1: three pro days going this week. We have c J.
27:27
Speaker 1: Stroud coming to day, we have Bryce Young on Thursday,
27:30
Speaker 1: and then we have Will Levitt on Friday. And so
27:34
Speaker 1: what we're doing at NFL Network, we're actually doing it
27:36
Speaker 1: on NFL Plus. So that's the app. You can download
27:39
Speaker 1: it put on your thing that will give you access
27:41
Speaker 1: to our Pro Days special You can see everything that
27:44
Speaker 1: goes on at each of those three Pro days. And
27:47
Speaker 1: then next week, we go talk about the super athlete
27:50
Speaker 1: that everyone is fascinated about, Anthony Richardson. We have his
27:53
Speaker 1: pro day on the thirty year, so it should be
27:56
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Final thing, I don't know if
28:00
Speaker 1: you've done a mock draft in the last three days,
28:03
Speaker 1: but if you were to do a mock draft, who
28:07
Speaker 1: you going to the Jaguars right now? What's your gut?
28:11
Speaker 1: I'm fair question. None, No, No No. The Jaguars can go
28:15
Speaker 1: a few different ways. Like my original thought was, hey,
28:18
Speaker 1: they can get another tied end to compliment Evan Ingram
28:22
Speaker 1: and really go all in on offense and just say,
28:24
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. We're really gonna load
28:26
Speaker 1: it up and have any video game like offense. So
28:29
Speaker 1: I got like Dalkon Kim Kaide will certainly work. Uh,
28:32
Speaker 1: Michael Meyer from Notre Dame will certainly work. So that
28:36
Speaker 1: is a thought. Another thought would be, Okay, I just
28:39
Speaker 1: talked about how we're gonna force opponents to chase point
28:42
Speaker 1: and make them put it in the air. Well, we
28:44
Speaker 1: need a few more cornerbacks to be able to talk
28:47
Speaker 1: about it. So you have guys like Beyonte Banks from Maryland.
28:53
Speaker 1: You have a couple of other cornerbacks that certainly could
28:56
Speaker 1: be and played Jordy Porter Junior and others, and so cornerback,
29:01
Speaker 1: tight end somewhere there last place. You could always look
29:04
Speaker 1: at offensive taco, but it might do a little fin
29:06
Speaker 1: and offensive taco when we get to that point in
29:08
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I think it's gonna be fascinating Bucky.
29:10
Speaker 1: To me, losing Taylor, I'm not worried about the starters,
29:14
Speaker 1: but you do wonder about that swing tackle. You wonder
29:17
Speaker 1: about cornerback because you've made the point. Maybe two corners needed,
29:21
Speaker 1: and then a tight end feels like a spot that's
29:25
Speaker 1: going to be ripe at twenty four for a good player.
29:28
Speaker 1: To me, those are the storylines for the Jagson as
29:31
Speaker 1: we approach the draft, we'll ask my way of segueing two.
29:35
Speaker 1: We'll certainly talk about that more on future huddle ups. Bucky,
29:39
Speaker 1: have a great day to day. I appreciate you joining us,
29:41
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon on the Bucky Brook Show.
29:45
Speaker 1: Like that jail, maybe maybe one day if you driveled,
29:48
Speaker 1: is enough to go into ozone and talk about it.
29:51
Speaker 1: I was looking more to that, Bucky, Thanks Buddy, Sorry man,
29:53
Speaker 1: appreciate