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140 IT ATTACKED THEM! Then a SECRET GOVERNMENT AGENCY Erased Everything! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man, and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one paw, massive paw, on my front windshield, and
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  Speaker 1: one paw right above my mirror on the driver's side.
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  Speaker 1: And the driver's side of my car just pushed down.
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  Speaker 1: The weight of it just pushed down. And the paw
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  Speaker 1: that was on my front windshield, my windshield started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it, and
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, The, it's like the,
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  Speaker 2: the ground underneath me just kind of opened up and
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving. He wasn't blinking.
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  Speaker 4: Like there was a complete, like just like blankness to
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  Speaker 4: his face. Like there was just, there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 4: I grabbed my 44 out of my truck.
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  Speaker 5: I jumped out the truck and that's when I knew
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  Speaker 5: it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was the storm man.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low guttural ground.
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  Speaker 5: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 5: And he takes that one more.
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  Speaker 3: Step and it was like he just stepped behind an
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  Speaker 3: invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 3: the show, everyone. This week we had a Lance Hightower
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  Speaker 3: from Monster 911.
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  Speaker 4: Over there on YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: An incredible guy, an incredible channel, and a wonderful podcaster.
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  Speaker 3: Lance came on and told me what he does and
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  Speaker 3: how he helps people speak out about the experiences they've had.
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  Speaker 3: He has a toll-free number. He said it during the show.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead and jot that down if you want to
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  Speaker 3: reach out to him. You can also reach out to
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  Speaker 3: him just on Facebook if you'd like to. So Lance
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  Speaker 3: told me about a story about two guys who were
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  Speaker 3: fishing in Ohio and ran across one of these Bigfoot,
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  Speaker 3: an aggressive one, who actually hurt the gentleman in this spot.
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  Speaker 3: When they went to the hospital, this unaffiliated government agency
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  Speaker 3: kind of went there and shut shit down, to be
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  Speaker 3: honest with you. And the gentleman didn't know who to
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  Speaker 3: turn to, what to do. So they reached out to
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  Speaker 3: Lance there. And Lance was helping them out with the situation.
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  Speaker 3: It's quite incredible. You need to hear this to believe it.
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  Speaker 3: And it explains why a lot of people don't talk
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  Speaker 3: about it. If you want to reach out to me,
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  Speaker 3: you can do so at the Eye of Jupiter podcast
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  Speaker 3: at gmail.com. And I'll have you on the show. Any experiences,
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  Speaker 3: any encounters, anything you want to talk to me about
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  Speaker 3: that you never see on regular YouTube channel shows or
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  Speaker 3: the mainstream media, please leave me a rating over here
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  Speaker 3: on Spotify or wherever you get your MP3 downloads. Go
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  Speaker 3: over to YouTube and check out the channel. Go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and leave me a subscription there. I'm enjoying this show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm enjoying doing it. And I hope you enjoy this
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  Speaker 3: episode with Lance Hightower.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, Tom. Glad to be with you.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, feelings mutual, my friend. Just like I said in
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  Speaker 3: the green room just a second ago. Oh man, so
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  Speaker 3: it's nice and hot there. Where are you coming from?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mean to ask you that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm actually in Oklahoma. I'm west of Tulsa, about 35
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  Speaker 5: miles or so. And yes, it's been extremely miserable, which
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  Speaker 5: is kind of typical this time of the year. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: no matter how the spring starts in the winter, we've
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  Speaker 5: had very mild winters, but when you enjoy those cool moments,
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  Speaker 5: because we know come August and September, it's going to
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  Speaker 5: get brutal. And it's been about 105, 107 with a
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  Speaker 5: heat index of about 110, 115. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy every day.
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  Speaker 3: I get to put on a pair of pants, which
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  Speaker 3: has been about five times since I've been here in
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  Speaker 3: five years. So let's tell everybody a little bit about yourself,
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  Speaker 3: where we can find you and what it is that
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  Speaker 3: you do, man.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So basically I'll just, I grew up in Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a native. Our dad was in State Parks of Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 5: so I've had the privilege, my brothers and I, I'm
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  Speaker 5: the oldest of four, we've lived in the outdoors. And
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  Speaker 5: so in the outdoors, I learned to hunt, fish, track,
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  Speaker 5: and my playground was the outdoors. Of course, I grew
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  Speaker 5: up in the 70s, and so there was no internet,
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  Speaker 5: no books a million, no cell phones like they are,
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  Speaker 5: you know, there was nothing like that. So I had
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  Speaker 5: to use imagination, I built things, I made my own toys.
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  Speaker 5: I wore out my Red Ryder BB gun, shooting everything
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  Speaker 5: in sight. And so I grew up naturally in the
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  Speaker 5: woods and with firearms and things like that. Enjoyed it all.
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  Speaker 5: And so later I went to college. I was the
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  Speaker 5: first in my family to get a degree. I have
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  Speaker 5: kind of a double major. I get biology and chemistry.
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  Speaker 5: And I was really gravitating toward engineer or health care.
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  Speaker 5: I worked in the hospital at 16 years old for
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  Speaker 5: a couple of years. as an orderly, became good friends
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  Speaker 5: with doctors. And I said, yeah, I think I want
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  Speaker 5: to do in healthcare, but I still didn't know where
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  Speaker 5: in healthcare. So I worked in the real world making money.
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  Speaker 5: I worked for 3M. That's where I met my wife
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  Speaker 5: in Weatherford, Oklahoma. And then I thought I had a
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  Speaker 5: good experience with a chiropractor. We were just talking about that.
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  Speaker 5: So I had all the prerequisites and I thought, wow,
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  Speaker 5: that kind of fits how I think three-dimensionally, mechanically, structurally.
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  Speaker 5: So we were moving to Minnesota. I'd married and moved
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  Speaker 5: to Minnesota, went to chiropractic school, graduated in 97. Um,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't take any breaks. I started in 94 and
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  Speaker 5: they have a four year program. I went through in
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  Speaker 5: three years and a few months, I didn't take any breaks. And, uh,
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  Speaker 5: so I did that, came back to Oklahoma and practiced
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  Speaker 5: for about 10 years, sold my practice and then came
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  Speaker 5: back and built a mobile clinic with a, uh, class CRV.
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  Speaker 5: I completely gutted it out and did the outside inside.
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  Speaker 5: There was no blueprint. I got on YouTube university and
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  Speaker 5: decided to figure things out like many people do. And
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  Speaker 5: I did that for a number of years. And so
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  Speaker 5: I retired from seeing patients after 24 years. After 26 years,
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  Speaker 5: I decided to finally fully, I was so young that
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  Speaker 5: the board of examiners did not fully recognized my retirement.
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  Speaker 5: So I had to say there was some term they gave.
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  Speaker 5: So anyway, I'm still not of retirement age, but I
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  Speaker 5: relinquished my license. And so back in 2017, while I
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  Speaker 5: was still in practice, I heard this thing called a podcast.
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  Speaker 5: And my brother Lane said, man, you got to listen
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  Speaker 5: to this. These people are experiencing some of the things
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  Speaker 5: that we have over the years while they're out in
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  Speaker 5: the woods. So long story short, I said, hey, let's
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  Speaker 5: have a podcast. And let's talk about some of the
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  Speaker 5: things we've experienced. So I put a toll-free number, which
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  Speaker 5: I still have to this day. No website. I had
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  Speaker 5: a broken Samsung phone. The speakers did not work. But
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  Speaker 5: the Bluetooth did. And so I bought a $ 40 Bluetooth
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  Speaker 5: speaker and I was off to the races. So it
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  Speaker 5: was slow going. But after that, after about six months...
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  Speaker 5: I was so overloaded on our toll-free number, I was
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  Speaker 5: literally getting, I was just thinking about this today, somewhere
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  Speaker 5: between 15 and 25 calls a day for three to
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  Speaker 5: four months straight. Think about it. And now that's just
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  Speaker 5: a smidge of the calls that I received. I think
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  Speaker 5: I received over 2,000 calls since 2017, and I've done
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  Speaker 5: maybe about 1,700 interviews. And so I've learned a lot.
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  Speaker 5: I did not. I've never taken any podcast courses. I
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  Speaker 5: was never in journalism, never took anything really cool like
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  Speaker 5: photography or anything like that. I just kind of learned
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  Speaker 5: as we were talking.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 5: I learned through YouTube. I learned through primarily failing my
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  Speaker 5: way to where I want to be and making a
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  Speaker 5: ton of mistakes. That's really my mantra. It should be
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  Speaker 5: my mantra. Fail your way to the top. But, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I always remained a student. I never want to call
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  Speaker 5: myself a master of anything. I want to be coachable.
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  Speaker 5: I want to learn. I'm a curious person. And so
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  Speaker 5: I've been very fortunate to meet wonderful people in this genre.
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  Speaker 5: And I just feel very honored and excited to be
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  Speaker 5: a part of this. When we started out the podcast,
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  Speaker 5: we were Cryptid Brothers Investigations of Oklahoma, kind of a mouthful.
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  Speaker 5: but my brothers over time, because of job transitions and moving,
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  Speaker 5: it just came down to me being the interviewer, investigator,
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  Speaker 5: out in the field, producer, everything. So we changed the name.
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  Speaker 5: I changed the name to Monster 911, mainly because people,
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  Speaker 5: every time that they would have an encounter and talk
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  Speaker 5: to me, which is everyday people, they would say, I
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  Speaker 5: saw a monster. It was a monster, Lance. And so
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  Speaker 5: I thought, okay. And some of them said, I got
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  Speaker 5: to talk to someone now. I need help now. So
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  Speaker 5: it Okay, so the code for that, when you get
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  Speaker 5: into police work or anything like that, law enforcement, 911
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  Speaker 5: is emergency help. So that's kind of how Monster 911
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  Speaker 5: came to be. After a couple of years, I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was a joke at first, but I got contacted
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  Speaker 5: by a UK film company. They said, hey, we're looking
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  Speaker 5: for people for our shows on Terror in the Woods.
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  Speaker 5: Do you have any people? And I go, oh, well,
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  Speaker 5: I can call and find out. Send some people their way.
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  Speaker 5: And then they go, hey, can we record you? We're
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  Speaker 5: doing this new series. And I said, sure. We were
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  Speaker 5: just talking like you and I are. And then a
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  Speaker 5: couple of weeks later, they said, hey, we would like
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  Speaker 5: to invite you to be a personality on the show.
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  Speaker 5: We're doing this in Alaska. Would you come to Alaska?
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  Speaker 5: And I go, twist my arm.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: So they sent me in 2018, I went to Fairbanks
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  Speaker 5: and Juneau. And in 2019, I think it came out,
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  Speaker 5: the Alaska Triangle. And then season two came out 2020.
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  Speaker 5: And then I guess those in Those, the Power at
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  Speaker 5: Bee and the Travel Channel said, we don't want any
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  Speaker 5: more seasons. But ironically, they still play it, which is
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  Speaker 5: kind of interesting. And then fast forward to this year,
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  Speaker 5: a few months ago, the same producer of that said, Lance,
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  Speaker 5: we have a special project and we want to know
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  Speaker 5: if you're interested. We want to film you coming to
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  Speaker 5: the UK and experiencing everything in your eyes. We want
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  Speaker 5: to send you to a lot of paranormal sites, very spooky, old, old,
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  Speaker 5: ancient sites where there's hauntings, there's weird areas to investigate,
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  Speaker 5: possibly a Bigfoot type sightings with a lot of eyewitnesses
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  Speaker 5: and a dogman type of creature that a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people have seen in the UK. Would you be interested?
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  Speaker 5: And I said, again, twist my arm, yes. So we
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  Speaker 5: did that a few months back and now the episodes
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  Speaker 5: are just airing. I think episode two just dropped yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: So that's kind of a fast elevator Kind of where
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  Speaker 5: I've come from, where I was at, it kind of
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  Speaker 5: morphed into something that I never expected, honestly. But I've
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  Speaker 5: just always found I have to be a creative person.
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  Speaker 5: And to me, I create and I get to entertain,
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  Speaker 5: but I get to help people all at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man. I mean, creative, dude. I got to get
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  Speaker 4: it out, dude. You know, let me take a look
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  Speaker 4: at this.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 4: Nice. I got to.
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  Speaker 5: That's really good.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's my girlfriends, and I helped her along the way.
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  Speaker 3: But, man, if I can't write music, write jokes, paint,
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  Speaker 3: do something, dude.
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  Speaker 4: I am itching.
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  Speaker 3: So I understand all that. And you have this incredible
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  Speaker 3: gift of gab. I can already tell that you have
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  Speaker 3: a great voice for this, and you know what you're doing, man.
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  Speaker 3: You have great timing, and it definitely lended itself to
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  Speaker 3: doing what you're doing. Well, we were just, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Tom. You know, we were just
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  Speaker 3: talking about this and I spoke about this yesterday in
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  Speaker 3: an interview, a young man, we were doing something on
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  Speaker 3: business and leadership. And I said, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of what you have done has led you up to
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  Speaker 3: this point and you develop skills that you probably nowadays,
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  Speaker 3: they have very creative courses now for people, how to
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  Speaker 3: speak and communicate to the public.
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  Speaker 5: And, and back when I was, you know, a kid,
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  Speaker 5: We called it work and jobs. And when the best
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  Speaker 5: job I ever had was I was 16 years old.
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  Speaker 5: I started at 15. I lied a little bit about
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  Speaker 5: my age. I was a lifeguard at a very, very
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  Speaker 5: busy state park. It was a very unique pool. It
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  Speaker 5: was one of the biggest and busiest in the state
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  Speaker 5: of Oklahoma. And that was the best job I had
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  Speaker 5: because it forced me to communicate directly with the public,
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  Speaker 5: but also learn to communicate with people that are sometimes belligerent,
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  Speaker 5: that are inebriated, that are screaming and yelling at you.
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  Speaker 5: So that was the modern day Karen and Keith at
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  Speaker 5: that time. And so I had to, at 16, when.
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  Speaker 5: The pool is packed. People are stacked on the grass
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  Speaker 5: and around the pool and you have someone screaming at
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  Speaker 5: the top of their lungs at you and everybody is
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  Speaker 5: dead silent looking at you. You have to speak well
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  Speaker 5: and proficiently to not escalate, but de-escalate the situation.
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  Speaker 4: You have to defuse the situation, of course.
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  Speaker 5: Defuse it and don't put it that you're right and
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  Speaker 5: he's wrong, only that if you have an issue, sir,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry and I understand your point. You've come a
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  Speaker 5: long way. There's no one that taught me this. I
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  Speaker 5: just had to figure it out, but I had some instincts.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I developed is intuitive instincts. I was able
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  Speaker 5: to carry that into healthcare where I knew what the
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  Speaker 5: patient needed before they needed it. And then now I
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  Speaker 5: just kind of carry it on into my podcast and
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  Speaker 5: I can see where things are going. And so I,
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  Speaker 5: I never judge people. I don't put people on the spot.
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  Speaker 5: I'm always on their side first. Um, and if anything
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  Speaker 5: goes wrong or whatever, I blame me first. I take responsibility.
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  Speaker 5: And so those are things that we learn. I learned
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  Speaker 5: back in the seventies and things.
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  Speaker 4: Have been lost.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm a, I'm a child of the nineties, man.
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  Speaker 3: We still had the, the, In our time period, too,
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  Speaker 3: those have been lost. Lance, if you don't mind, I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to change gears here. Could we, you know, what
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  Speaker 3: led you? You said, you know, you're monsters. These are
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  Speaker 3: the experiences you had growing up. Could you, like, take
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  Speaker 3: us back to, like, you know, what you saw or
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  Speaker 3: how this began for you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. And so I've experienced a little bit of everything.
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  Speaker 5: And now if people want to call it paranormal, I
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  Speaker 5: think sometimes that word gets kind of misused. Paranormal just
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  Speaker 5: means abnormal. So some people will associate that with ghostly
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  Speaker 5: apparitions and things like that. But paranormal just means anything abnormal.
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  Speaker 5: So my first experience was when I was about seven
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  Speaker 5: years old. It was about 1973. And we lived in
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  Speaker 5: eastern Oklahoma. And we lived out in the sand hills.
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  Speaker 5: So it was near five miles outside of a little
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  Speaker 5: town called Bragg's. And I saw this figure. I was
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  Speaker 5: out by myself by the garden. I was trying to
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  Speaker 5: hurry up because of the chore. And I was near
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  Speaker 5: the woods edge. And as a kid, I was very
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  Speaker 5: much observant. I wasn't very good in school, but I
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  Speaker 5: love the outdoors and I was very observant about things.
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  Speaker 5: And I noticed everything went silent, which is a very
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  Speaker 5: interesting feature that happens with a lot of people that
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  Speaker 5: may have encounters. And so anyway, everything went silent. And
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  Speaker 5: I can't tell you why to this day, but I
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  Speaker 5: just had this instinct to squat down and look everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: below the canopy in the woods. And when I did,
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  Speaker 5: I saw this figure. I could see a head. I
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  Speaker 5: could see what would look like a shoulders and I
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  Speaker 5: could see daylight in between the arms and the torso,
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  Speaker 5: but the weeds were so high. It kind of disappeared
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  Speaker 5: around the waist. And I saw this and I didn't
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  Speaker 5: see any movement, didn't hear anything, but it scared me.
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  Speaker 5: And I said, Hey, Hey, stop it. You know, and
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  Speaker 5: I was yelling at it. And so I just, Nothing happened,
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  Speaker 5: but I just got this feeling I need to get
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  Speaker 5: out of here. So I backed all the way up,
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  Speaker 5: got on my bike, went to the house, told my mom.
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  Speaker 5: She came out with my brothers, and I said, it
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  Speaker 5: was right here, follow me. And I got to the spot,
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  Speaker 5: and it was gone. Well, she half-heartedly believed me, but
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  Speaker 5: she said, let's hurry up with the chore. Well, that
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  Speaker 5: following night, or the following night, I had something come
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  Speaker 5: to my window that really, quite honestly, terrified me. I
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  Speaker 5: was shaking so bad in bed, I woke my brother.
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  Speaker 5: So that was that night. I never forgot it. And
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  Speaker 5: then shortly after, I watched a movie called The Legend
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  Speaker 5: of Boggy Creek. And then, of course, that terrified me
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  Speaker 5: for three months. No sleep. And then over the years,
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  Speaker 5: I was able to, I encountered a UFO craft where
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: we lived at Greenleaf State Park. I have been in
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  Speaker 5: an Indian burial cemetery, which I wasn't aware of. That
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  Speaker 5: was a spooky evening. I went several times back. And
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  Speaker 5: then the years of going deer hunting in southeast Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 5: my brothers and I encountered a multitude of things going
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  Speaker 5: on at camp and while we're deer hunting. That just
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  Speaker 5: basically we had all these experiences that when you stack
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  Speaker 5: it all up, it couldn't be a human. Things occurred
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  Speaker 5: that didn't make sense. And when you rule everything out,
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  Speaker 5: you just go, okay, I know it's not a man.
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  Speaker 5: A bear can't do that. A deer can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: A cougar, a bobcat, nothing can do that. It had
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: to have a thumb. And in many cases, it had
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: to have certain height. What else could it be? What else?
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: And so everything kind of led down to it's got
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: to be a Sasquatch. And that's what we experienced. My
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: brother Lane in 93, was it 93? 95. had a
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: very close encounter with a Sasquatch with a buddy. He
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: didn't tell us, he waited two years in 97 before
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: he shared it with us because he was still trying
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: to process. It was kind of traumatic. So that's kind
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: of where all of this came from when we wanted
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: to create, when I wanted to create a podcast show,
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I said, we have plenty to talk about. But it
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: kind of morphed into something else where people were calling
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: me with their encounters. And then it just kind of
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: blossomed up to this point.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fantastic, man.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, like there's... I always try to tell people,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: you know, there's people who are just non-believers. There's nothing
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: wrong with being a skeptic. I always make sure that
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: people understand that concept. Nothing wrong with being skeptical, but
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: there's always a point at which you're trying to be
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: responsible and speaking with people who have had these encounters.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: That's what this show is.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I try to make people, because there's a lot of
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: like PTSD companies.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: You just try to make them feel for a moment. Like, look, dude,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: you're still human. Look, lady, you're still human. And here
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: is where I want them to know, like, you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I will listen to you. And a lot of people
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: find it to be very cathartic.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: That's kind of my mission. really is to, I never
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: judge whatever they tell me. And then I try to
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: basically help them cope or what I say, navigate in
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: what they saw, possibly why they saw it, possibly what
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: it was doing. at the moment, what the eyewitness was doing.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: And can they go back and think of things that
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: led up to that maybe they had already seen this
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: before in a manner that was certain sounds or certain
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: things that happened and they just kind of brushed it off.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: So I help them kind of navigate this and help
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: them and instruct them really to journal everything because what
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: we know of the psyche of how when someone sees
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: something that they cannot reference, that they've never seen before,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: it has a different mode of action in the brain
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: where it can create various levels of anxiety and stress,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: and in some cases, various levels of PTSD. And I
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: think personally, after doing many of these interviews, I personally
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: feel that the if it's truly PTSD and there's a,
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: there's a very specific type of definition of certain actions
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: that are exhibited by these, what happens to an eyewitness
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: sleepless nights, they have triggers. But I think that the
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: creature or cryptid PTSD is much different than say someone going,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: say through war, because in war on a very, subconscious
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: and conscious level, you know another human being is firing
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: something at you. It's still scary. It's very terrible. War is.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: But with seeing one of these creatures, we're told as
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: kids that monsters don't exist. Since we're kids, you know, monsters,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: they don't exist. They're just in the movies. They're in
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: your imagination. But when an adult or a child for
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: the first time sees something that looks like a monster,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: it really creates this cognitive dissonance that they're just, they
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: can't process it. How am I seeing something that's not
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: supposed to exist? How come no one's told me about this?
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: How come the news hasn't reported this? How come no
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: one has prepared me that this, I've heard other people
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: have had encounters now that I've investigated my encounter. What's
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: going on here? So people go through this roller coaster
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: of fear and then they get angry and then they investigate.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: And then in some cases they become the researcher.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: A lot of times. I've seen this a lot. And
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: so I try to help them navigate through this, that
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: they're not alone. They're not crazy. Everyday, ordinary people of
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: all ages have seen these creatures. And so that's the
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: way I look at it when they call me.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Right. So, okay, let's walk through that a little bit.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: So when they call you, they're telling you that they've
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: seen something on their property. There's things missing. There's you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: offerings or, you know, all kinds of strange things I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: sure you've heard throughout the years. So, you know, what
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: is your, what is your process and, you know, what,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: what have you experienced?
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I would like to say that at this point,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: you know, there is a absolute, there's a formula. There's
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: really not. What I, what I've done is, and I'm
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: actually working toward to try and get some certification to
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: assist me even more, I think will help me with
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the channel as well. But basically the process is I
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: try to break the ice the first 10, 20 minutes,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: however long they need to, to get to know who
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I am and kind of who they are. Now, if
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: they want to get right into the story, that's their prerogative.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I don't set any rules, hard rules or anything like that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I don't do live. I do edit all my shows
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: just because... I want the person to, I want to
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: edit to make them sound as best as possible, especially
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: many of them first time. But also if they come
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: back and I first ask if I can record the
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: conversation and then sometimes I've had people go, I didn't
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: want to mention my uncle Bob or I didn't want
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: to mention I didn't want to say that I'm a
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: lab tech at XYZ hospital. Can you take that out?
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: So I really obliged to whatever their recommendations are. And
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: that's my policy. It's their show, you know, when it,
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: when we're in that interview. So I really just, we
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: break the ice and then I just, when there's a
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: lull and there's a moment I say, well, Let's go ahead,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: if you don't mind, and we'll get started here. Now,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: you called me initially, and I take notes. I'm old school,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: so I write on a three-by-five card.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Literally, I've got stacks of cards. I write the name,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: their number, the day they called me, and I title
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: the top of whatever the main thing they spoke about.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: And then I write in some of the elements or
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: details that I kind of fill it in to jog
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: my memory. And then on each card, it says when
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I spoke to them, when I texted them, when everything.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: So it's a quick, just a quick card I can
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: thumb through. Now I could probably do it on the computer,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: but I like touching things and things like that. So
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: I just do that as a memory jogger. And then
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I'll have my card with me when I interview. And
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I'll just say, if you don't mind, go back to
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: that day, start in the morning and you can talk
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: about what you do for a living. It's up to
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: you what you want to share. If you want to
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: share your name or, what you were doing, just start
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: where it's comfortable for you and go into that day
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: and leave no details out. So then I'll say, you
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: can go grab a tea, a coffee, go grab your cigarette,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: whatever you want. And anytime you want to take a break,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: go ahead. And if something's difficult, we're not in a hurry.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: We're not in any time. We're not in a hurry.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: It's up to you. And so with that, they just
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: kind of let their guard down. They know that there's
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: no rush. In many cases, this is the first time
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: they've shared this. So I try to make it as easy,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: as non-threatening, as convenient as possible. I talk a little
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: bit about my experiences and that's how we do it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: And we usually end, they're very grateful. They're very happy.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: They feel better, which the human psyche does feel better
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: when you share. I always say it's good medicine for
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: the soul. And that's why there is, What are they,
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the AA meetings, you know? And people feel a very
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: strong bond to others and groups that you have something
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: in common. And so it's no different with these folks
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: when they realize this guy understood me. He's had his
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: own experiences. He's done a lot of these. And so
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: that's what I'm trying to do. And that's why some
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: of my books that will be coming out it's doing
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: just that people from all walks of life, from lab
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: techs to commercial bus drivers, to farmers, to nurses, to doctors,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to active police, retired police, active military, retired military. Oh yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Name the profession. And I probably interviewed them, uh, game Rangers, uh,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: state park, national park Rangers, um, teachers, attorneys, and, They
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: want answers. And I try to provide as best as
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: I can. I also give advice if they ask for
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: it and try to use good sound information. So that's
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: kind of how I do it. And then I go back.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: An average length of time for an interview is two
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: hours with me. My longest has been like four and
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: a half hours.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: And then I.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: And so I, I have to, uh, you know, it's,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: it's like a marathon sometimes because it, um, this is
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: the first time in many cases they're able to tell people.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: And so they have moments where they're reliving it and
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: retelling of what happened, the incident, um, the closer, the
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: proximity of the encounter, uh, of the creature or creatures
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: or whatever, uh, the more traumatic it was, and it
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: takes a while sometime to spill out what exactly they saw.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: They're trying to describe something they've never seen, and it
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: was very, very traumatic. And in many cases, I've noticed
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: over the years, if people don't get a chance to share,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: it affects them drastically. It can affect their work, their
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: personal life, relationships, job, and it expands. And so, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: feel that in many ways, I'm still helping people like
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I was in healthcare. It's a much different capacity in helping,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: but still, I still feel that obligation. And so I
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: take it serious. I'm working toward, like I said, some
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: other certifications to really help those people that call me.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: And I still feel no matter if you're having 30
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: calls a day and I'm having 30 calls and picks
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: other podcasts that are having 30 calls, I still think
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: we're just scratching the surface, in my opinion, on the
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: number of people and bizarre things that happen every day,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: every week. every year.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a slight different approach that you have that
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I have. I reach out to people. I see people
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: who are talking about it. There's different groups on Facebook.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: And I just kind of put out a feeler and say, hey,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: if you ever feel like talking to somebody about it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: we don't have to record it. You can just come
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: talk to me if you'd like. And I always give
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: them the option as well to say, look, man, you
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: tell your story the way you want to tell it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I'm here to listen.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: You have buyer's remorse or something that you don't want.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Even if I record it and at the end of
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: the day you say, you know what, I don't want
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: to do that. I say, you know what, it's fine.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: And I won't.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: That's the trust that I'm trying to build. It's not
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: that I want to do it. It's just I'm a
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: human too.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have probably dozens of shows I've never played
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: just because they finally come back and say, I don't
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: want you to play it. And it was too much
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: for them. And I said, okay.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: You actually went on active investigations to run into these monsters?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Have people actually come to their properties or things like that?
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes. So I do a little bit of everything.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: So I do the podcast, but also I started getting people, hey,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: you see for yourself. Come to my property. I'll tell
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: you exactly where I live. Now, I've been invited to
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: go on properties all across the United States, and I
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: wish I had time to do that. Even being retired,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I've now gotten so busy with the podcast and filming
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: that it is kind of a challenge to me. But
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I do try to go locally if it's like around
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: the borders of Texas or Kansas or Arkansas. But yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: I stay out on the property. I put equipment out
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: and I do that and I'll go out on active
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: investigations and I'm looking for hair specimens. I'm looking for prints.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I'm listening for different types of vocalizations. I'm looking tree structures.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: I'm just looking for things that just stick out. Now
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: to know that you have to know what normal nature is,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: you know, to see abnormal nature. And so I, like
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: I said, I've spent a lot of time in the
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: woods and hunted and all that and camped. And so
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: I just, I'm observing in the trees. I'm looking ground
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: level under the canopy. I'm looking at the ground, the foliage.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at everything and I just don't walk off indiscriminately.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I'm listening. I stop. I stalk. I listen. I walk
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: a little bit further. And so, um, yeah, I actually
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: go out and then, uh, which I enjoy. I enjoy
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: doing it. Actually, I'll be having a show when it
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: gets a little bit better temperatures that I'll be, I'll
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: have active satellite and I'll be doing live streaming in
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: some areas where we used to go and have activity
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: all the time. And I'll be driving some of the
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: roads very remotely out.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I want to do some of that too, man. It's
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: the future.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: My, my future plans are to go actually once, you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I don't have to tutor anymore and this becomes what
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I do that I actually want to go to these
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: remote Mayan communities, learn the language. It's the next one
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: on the list and go out to them and talk
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: to them about their stories because they have a ton
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: of stuff down here. And then also learn about the
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: plant medicines, the food, but at the same time, share
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: those stories. You know, that's, that's, it's really interesting. Now, Lance,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: if you don't mind, could you actually go into some
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: of those actual stories? Things that have been maybe, you know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: there's the run of the mill, I guess you would
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: call it, especially doing as long as you have. I'm
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: sure there's always something out there that just, what was that?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Could you give me maybe one of those instances?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: I would say, first of all, they're all important. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: always say to myself and in many of the shows,
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: to the audience that remember this happened to a person.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: And so be respectful, be kind in the comments. They're
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: sharing something very personal and it's another human being that
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: didn't ask to see this. So please be respectful of
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: when you hear it. And so I do say that
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: a lot, but the one, I would say the first
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: encounter interview that really stuck out, I had done quite
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: a few But that first year in 2017, we got
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: started in January. And then October, I got a call
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: on my toll-free number of a gentleman who was in
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: a panic. And he basically begged me to call him.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: He says, please, please, please call me. I got something
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: I got to talk about. It's on my chest, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I just got to talk to somebody. Please call me back, please.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, whoa. And so I would call people back.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: In that case, that was like a 911 call, so
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: to speak. And so I called them back. And I'm
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: going to go through a lot of the little details
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: and try to get to the point here. But basically
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: what happened is him and his cousin, they're middle-aged. They
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: like to fish together. They're very close. And they were
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: in central Ohio midday fishing in this reservoir. which is
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: nothing more than a man-made lake. And the water is
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: extracted out of it for local city, you know, water supply,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: things like that. But it's big. And there was some
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: islands around in this reservoir and they were fishing around
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: one of them. And while they were doing it, basically
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: there was rocks being thrown at the cousin in the
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: front of the boat. And he saw something on one
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: of the islands and he told the other cousin, he goes,
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: take me up there. I'm going to I seized that guy.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: He got behind that tree, and I'm going to give
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: him a piece of my mind. And the other cousin
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: reluctantly drove the boat up on that bank of that island,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: and the other cousin got out and took a handful
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: of rocks and threw it at the tree. The problem
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: was what stepped out was not a man. It was
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: a massive, huge male Sasquatch, and he took that as
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: a threat of aggression. And he.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: The cousins were out of the boat and they were
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: standing on the bank and they both had sidearms, but
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: completely lost their mind that they even had that. This
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: creature was so large. It was around eight feet tall,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: nine feet tall. And the cousin I spoke with, the
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: one that wasn't injured was the one who called me.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: And he said that it was around 900 pounds guessing.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: He said, uh, It moved with such speed, it wasn't normal.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: It hit the cousin that threw the rock, hit him
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: in the chest, knocked him back about 15 feet into
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: the water. And the cousin grabbed his chest. What had
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: happened is a rib was fractured and it actually punctured
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: a lung. The other cousin just stood there and it
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: hit the cousin and made a 90 right in front
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: of the other one. And the Sasquatch was on all fours.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: It had its head up and curled its lip up
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: and its nostrils were flared. And he said it looked
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: kind of like that pink bubble gum, that color. He
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: said this creature was pissed and it had a deafening volume.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: And he just wet himself right there. He stood right
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: there and just wet himself.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: So you're saying it screamed at him with the deafening volume?
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it basically hit after the cousin threw the rocks.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: It knew which cousin is standing only a few yards away,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: maybe 15 yards, 20 yards, and it came in so fast,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: hit in the chest the other cousin, knocked him back
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: into the water, and made just kind of a quick
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: 90 in front of the other cousin that did nothing,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: and then went back and stood about... was still on
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: all fours. I shouldn't say stood, but it was on
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: all fours still and had its head back and was
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: just and yelling. And that's when the other cousin that
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: wasn't hit just lost his bladder. He was so frightened.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: And then he turned back to look at the cousin
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: in the water and he was staggering to get up,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: grabbing his chest. And so finally the Sasquatch moved a
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: little bit in front of him. and was still facing
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: them on all fours. And then the cousin that had
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: just wet himself finally snapped out of it. He backed
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: up and tried to get his cousin, and he grabbed
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the boat. So now he's waist deep in water. He's
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: trying to put his cousin in the boat. And then
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: by that time, he saw something out of the peripheral vision,
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: and he ducked. And when he ducked, it hit the
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: cousin he was trying to put in the boat. Cole
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: caught the cousin that was already injured, knocked him out.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: It was a log, a wood, a piece of debris.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: So he's really scared. He's freaking out. He's in a panic.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: So now his cousin's just a limp 200-plus rag doll.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: He's trying to grab the boat down and try to
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: grab his pants and push him in the boat in
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: way steep water. Finally got his cousin in the boat,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: and he's got the boat turned. He's in the water
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: between him and the bank. And he's looking at this
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: creature and finally the Bigfoot had its head up. He
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: turned around on all fours and he kind of pranced
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: off with his head up just doing this and he
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: was kind of going sideways like a oh yeah like
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: i'm the king here you don't mess with me and
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: when he was looking at this sasquatch go Other movement
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: in the trees caught his peripheral vision, kind of dark
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: images kind of going through the trees. So he suspect
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: that there was others there on this island. So finally,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: he kind of snapped out of that. He's just completely
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: in a panic. He climbed into the boat. And then
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: when he climbed into the boat, he goes, I have
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: a gun. I forgot I had a gun. But he said,
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: I'm glad I forgot because there's no way this pistol
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: would have stopped that. It just pissed him off. So he.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Started the motor, beelined it to the dock where they
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: came into the boat ramp. Got on the phone. I
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: don't think they had a phone. Got a pay phone.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: He dialed everybody and his brother. The highway patrol, the sheriff,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: the police, the game warden. I mean, they all just
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: kind of congregated here at this boat ramp. And there was...
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: cars everywhere. They took them to the hospital. He drove
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: his cousin. His cousin kind of came around. They denied
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: the ambulance because they didn't have a lot of money.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: So he drove his cousin to the hospital. They admitted him.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: They took x-rays and said, yeah, you got a punctured lung.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: So they admitted him. And there was police in the room.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: There was game wardens. And then, well, There was a
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: police officer. So the cousin that wasn't injured went out
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: into the hall and he was just going, oh my gosh,
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, what was going on? And then there
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: was a police officer, a local police officer that had
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: a piece of paper. And he said, hey, I believe you.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: I think these guys might have some answers for you.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Give them a call. Well, that number was our number.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: And so he, shortly after he gave that, He went
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: back into the room. Then all of a sudden, two
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: guys came into the room. They had no identifiable badges.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: There was one guy that looked like a biker dude,
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: and another guy was dressed in a skinny tie and suit.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: And when they went in there, the highway patrol had
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: to leave. The game warden had to leave. The sheriff's
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: department had to leave. Everybody left that room. So these
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: guys had some upper level of authority, and the others
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: knew it. And these guys got in there and they
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: started questioning. They separated the cousins and they questioned each one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: And so they questioned each one and they basically softly,
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: but in a tone that was like a threat, a
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: soft threat. Well, these guys didn't have, the cousins had
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: no clue. What I have to do, I said earlier,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I help people cope and navigate to what they saw.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: That's the first part. The second part of what I
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: do is when the timing is right in the interview,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: I help the eyewitness understand some things, which I am
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: currently writing about, that there are patterns of an agency
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: or people that they don't have any identifiable, no materials,
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: no badges, nothing on a lanyard that they tell you
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: who they are.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: No three-letter agency kind of, right.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Right. And I think that they are a very covert,
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: very off-the-book type of organization. And their job is to
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: silence or subdue, suppress this information. And I think there's
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: reasons for that. And so I have to educate. That's
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: the second part that I do is educate eyewitnesses of
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: what to do, what not to do, who to talk to,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: who not to talk to, what to say, how to.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Kind of navigate through that. And so I have to
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: be very ginger about that because before I get there,
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: I have to let them speak about what they've done,
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: what they've seen. And then when the timing is right,
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: I kind of then help them eat that one bite
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: out of that elephant instead of just shoving it all
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: at them. And that way they don't feel overwhelmed. They're
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: So this I've learned over time, there's patterns to these
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: people's presence and what they do and how they do it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: But anyway, they came, they talked to the cousins, each
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: of these guys, soft but firm threats. And I helped
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: this cousin over the course of a couple of weeks.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: I called him every day. He needed serious help. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: told him he got to the point where he became
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: a bit more bold. I said, go back to where
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: you came. And I'm going to tell you, when you
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: go back, there's going to be military personnel before you
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: get to that boat ramp. And I even suspect they'll
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: have firearms in their hands. And they're going to tell you,
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: if you ask, it's going to be a military training exercise.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: I said, mark my words. And he went and he
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: came back and got on the phone that evening. He goes,
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: how the hell did you know that? And I said,
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: because that's what I would do. And that's what I
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: would say. And that's what I've seen with other interviews.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: And he goes, there was a helo coming in like
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: a Huey with a net. I could see it. There
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: was two guys at the gate. And I said, those
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: guys may not know anything. All they've been told by
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: their subordinate is stay here. No one gets past you.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: That's all you need to know. And he said, that's
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: exactly what they said. We're military training exercise, sir. Well,
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: what specifically are you training? We're I helped navigate this
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: person all the way through. Long story short, after a
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: few weeks, well, after the first week, there was just
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: this interview and what occurred to this cousin or the
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: cousins could literally be in a movie.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Which I'm actually, he gave me permission to write about this.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: But they try to, when the cousin gets out, He
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: goes back to the hospital. One cousin was hurt. He
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: goes to the hospital and tries to pay his bill.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: He goes back and the lady at the desk looks
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: on the computer. He was never there. He's never there.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: He goes, what do you mean? I wasn't there. I
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: was in room such and such right there. I came
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: in with the chest. And the lady was like, I
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: don't even have documents on you, sir. He goes, well,
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: I want my records. We have no records. I want
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: to pay my bill. There's no bill. You were never here.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: And he goes, the hell I was. I was here
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: on this day. The ambulance was out there, but we
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: denied it. My cousin drove me here. I was in
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: that room. No knowledge of anything. And so he was mad, frustrated,
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: and just like, what's going on? And I told him,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: I told him there'll be no record. They don't like
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: record trails. And that's something that I'm telling you, these
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: people are way up here. Everybody's down here. The next thing,
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: they go to the radio station locally. And the guy
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: wants to put him on the air, the manager. We're
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: going to put you on the air right now. Talk
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: about what happened. Five minutes, he gets a call. Uh-huh. Okay.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: You guys need to leave. And then all of a sudden,
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: the power, boom, shuts down at the radio station. All
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: the power shuts down. And the manager's like, what? What's
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: going on? He gets another call. Okay.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: And he points at the cousins. He goes, you guys
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: got to leave right now. What's going on? Just you
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: guys got to leave right now. Go, go, go, go.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: They go to the newspaper. Don't you guys need to leave?
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: The editor gets a call. You guys got to leave.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: A few days later or somewhere in there, the cousin
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: I was talking to lost his job of like 17 years.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: And the boss didn't tell him why. He says, but
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: I've been here every day. What did I do? He goes,
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: don't need to tell you. Just don't come back. So
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: then he's in shock. He's trying to explain to his
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: wife what's going on. They call the pastor over. The
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: pastor said, in a matter of certain words, you're kind
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: of delusional. You need some medication. It's okay. You've worked
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: too hard. He said, the hell I have. I know
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: what I saw. And he was shocked. acting as someone
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: would in a very shocked or anxious state. He's actually
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: suffering PTSD. He was very animated. And I says, well,
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: long story short, him and his wife separated. His wife
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: didn't understand. He immediately bought a bigger gun when he
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: didn't have money. And it just went from bad to
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: worse at a personal level. So now he didn't have
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: a job, couldn't pay his bill, didn't have a house.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: And so But see, that's the typical pattern with these
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: people is that how do you get someone that has
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: seen something that they don't want you to talk about
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: or discuss? What you do, you give that person a
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: lot of problems personally that they have to contend with
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: and deal with, especially not making any revenue, any salary,
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: any money. So they can't pay their bills. So now
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: you've moved it from the issue or the incident that
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: they saw instead of talking about it. Now you're getting
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: personal problems. They have to work it through and pay
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: for their bills and they're dealing with a relationship, a
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: split up. They don't know where to live. They can't
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: have it. So what you do is you get the
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: problems and that is a tactic.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: It's like a CIA type operation. That's what they do.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: It is because they're also trained very well like the CIA.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: And they use a tactic the CIA does. And I
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: have some theories on where these people come from. But
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: the CIA is really good when they don't ask questions.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: They make statements.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: Because the psychology of people is that if you ask
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: a question, I get a feeling I may cut you
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: off and go, I don't want to talk about it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: But if I say, you know, I really, and if
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: you don't want to talk about your background you've got
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: in there, but I say, you know, that is an
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: amazing background. I know someone that had some problems with
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: their background that looked like that. And then you would go, yeah, well,
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: you know, I haven't had any, but I have saw online.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: So you just start talking open-ended. So there's no closed statement.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: It's more of an open-end and you could just, what
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: we call verbal vomit. And so that's what these people
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: do every single time. They're trained to do that. And
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: that's a CIA tactic.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: And so there's some other things that I have found
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: in patterns based on what the eyewitness has told me.
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: And that's what I'm writing about as well. So this
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: story played out over the course of a couple of
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: weeks and I make note of everything. And it was,
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: it was quite amazing. Long story short, after that first
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks, he called me and he said, Lance,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: my bank account was closed and my savings account was closed.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: And I want to know, I went to the bank
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: and they didn't know why. I said, what do you
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: mean they didn't know why? He says, it just said IRS.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: And he goes, I've paid my taxes every year. I'm
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: never delinquent. I, uh, I've paid on a alimony. My child,
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: she reached 18. She's already eight. She's 19 right now.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: I paid every single time. So there can't be that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: He goes, do you think this is associated with my
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: account being closed? I said, absolutely.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: I said, they're trying to give you a message to
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: shut up. That's what they're trying to do.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: If you, if you had to make a, if you
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: had to make a, an estimated guess of all the
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: stories you hear with the stories that I've heard, how
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: many of you, What percentage are we actually hearing?
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Maybe half?
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I would say I was only able to hear this
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: story because it occurred three days previous and no one
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: had gotten to this gentleman yet. I say no one.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: He was not reached yet by these people. If I
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: was going to give a percentage of the people that
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: are reached by And given mild or hard threats by
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: these people, I would say at least now, I think
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: it's even more. Now that we have AI in social media,
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: I would say close to 60%, maybe more, 70%.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Or not going through that net or coming through that net.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: Or not wanting to talk to people because these people
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: have contacted them previously and threatened them. And how they
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: threaten them is sometimes they'll say, It would be to
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: your best, best interest to be quiet about this. It
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: was a bear that you saw. It was a bear
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: that pushed your car off the road. And how defiant
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: an eyewitness is determines how much they're going to surveil
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: this person. If the person goes, if a person, if
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: an eyewitness goes, the hell it was a bear. I
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: know what I saw. It was a Sasquatch. It was
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: what you call a Bigfoot Sasquatch. It was like 10
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: feet tall, about a thousand pounds. It was no bear.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: And if they go, I'm saying you saw a bear
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: and it would be wise. And so if the person
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: still continues to go, I know what I saw, then
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: that tells them where on this level of this list
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: or surveillance, they're going to have to monitor you. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: trust me, They monitor where you're going. They monitor on
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: your phone. They know everything already about you. They know
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: your history, your work history. So if they ever approach you,
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: they already know everything about you. Already.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: They know where to tweak things to make you shut up.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: And they know how hard to press. So I was...
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: fortunate that I had enough insight and knowledge up to
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: that point to help this cousin and help him navigate
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: and understand that he had to just basically go dark
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: for a while and stop talking about it. I think
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: in the process of him talking to me, that put
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: me on the radar.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: And I think with him sharing it and then I
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: put it out on YouTube, He basically, that's what happened
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: at the bank level. They closed his account. And by
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: the way, his wife left. She didn't understand. And a
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: month later, they had that account reopened. And guess how
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: much money was in their savings and checking?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Zero. To what end? I mean, okay.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I've heard stories of people saying this AI stuff is intentional.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: They do a lot of things where they create infighting.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Oh, it's this, it's only this,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: or it's only that. And therefore people fight. And then
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: it looks, it's, it's a sign up to make it
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: look like there is nothing to it. Like, oh, they're
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: just a bunch of, you know, like rednecks in the forest, uh,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: seeing a bear. Right. But my question is Lance, I mean,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: if you had to guess what is the, why are
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: they doing that?
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: It's because, okay. They don't want it out. Okay. Clearly, clearly,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: but to what ends, why?
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Well, that is part of the million-dollar question here, more
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: than that. I think, first and foremost, there's a couple
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: different answers that I have really thought deep and heavy,
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: and again, I write about this. First and foremost, I
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: believe that does revolve around money in the sense of loss.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: Many of these sightings occur at public lands, in federal lands.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: And if someone acknowledged at a state or a federal
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: level with state or federal lands that these creatures exist,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: it would open up Pandora's box, I think, of litigation
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: because it would eventually get to questions that would revolve
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: around people missing or abducted. And so... If you had
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: a child that was abducted in 67 and all you
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: have to do is read some of the David Politis 411s.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: And now I'm not saying everybody that's missing or abducted
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: is by these creatures. I don't mean that or mean
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: to apply that because unfortunately there's bad people that do
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: bad things to good people.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Clearly, clearly.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: And there's a lot of environmental things that influence people's misdirection.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: They step off a cliff. Things, unfortunately, happen there too.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: But there are a percentage of things that happen to people.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: I believe that these creatures are directly responsible. I think
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: that certain people in these esoteric, very small groups have
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: been privy to this information for decades and have known
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: about it and have lied or misdirected us civilians thinking
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: it's something else. but have known about these creatures. So
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: if you have someone, a family member, a friend that
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: was never found and mysteriously, very oddly disappeared, and you
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: knew about this, that would open up, I think, litigations
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: that would go on for years and years and years
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: and years and years. So I think first and foremost,
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: it's a revenue loss. And especially, I'm getting ready to
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: play an interview that I did. I did four interviews
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: of over two hours each. with a retired national park ranger.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: And what he shared with me was mind blowing that
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: he came forward to talk to me, to tell me
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: that national parks are extremely dangerous. There is things that's
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: happening behind the scenes that they've been, he was told
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: years not to talk about that puts the public in danger,
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: that these creatures are there with other things. And that
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: they don't have answers, but they are not to discuss
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: anything with the public about it or they'll lose their
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: job and pensions. So I think they would open up
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: that box of revenue loss. I mean, the national parks
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: like Yosemite and Yellowstone alone, each one brings in or
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: generates close to a billion dollars at the park directly
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: and in the surrounding area alone. So that would be
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: a hit. Think how many camping lights and fishing licenses
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: that would not happen if people knew a hominid type
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: of archaic creature was roaming freely that might be responsible
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: for disappearances of people. That'd be an outcry. Now, the
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: second thing I think is that I think that these
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: people are Johnny on the spot and try to suppress
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: this information because it does represent a national security issue.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: They're massive. They have strength that is abnormal, supernatural. They
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: have abilities that when you're in the woods, you ain't
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: on the top of the apex list. You're down here
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: compared to them. So I think it's a national security issue.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: And so these people are out. I think thirdly, and again,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: you could put subgroups everywhere, but I get this feeling
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: that it might actually substantiate or have some evidence, evidential proof,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: that this supports the Christian doctrine of the Nephilim or
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: the offspring of the Nephilim being supernatural beasts walking the earth.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: very intelligent. So we know that the Smiths, who is
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: the historical or archeological police at the turn of the century,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: the Smithsonian Institute, they still have in crates that we
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: don't know about of giant bones.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: Uh, we hear of different types of, um, petroglyphs and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: different things that are Egyptian and the United States.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, and this is not just hearsay. These are
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: credible people that worked on these projects that were quieted.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: And so the Smithsonian's were the police at that time.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: So I think I can't help that there is some
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: level of association that substantiates the Bible, the Christian doctrine,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: and that is kind of mingled in there as well.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: So I think with all that being said, there are hundreds,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: if not a couple thousand of these people that operate.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Whether you want to call them the MIBs, I think
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: that's giving them too much credit. I think the suits,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: or you can call them what Dr. Greer, Stephen Greer,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: who is a UFO-ologist, so to speak. What he calls them,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: the mob. He calls them the mob because they operate
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: like a mob. They suppress information. They get paid. very well.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: They have all the money with no, there's no budget.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: They can have all the little toys and gadgets to
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: hone in and surveil you. They use AI. They were
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: using AI years before we had access to it. Just
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: like these phones, they had the cell phone probably 10
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: to 20 years prior to us. So AI was around
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: so they can monitor all this data coming in. terabytes
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: and terabytes and terabytes of data coming in from social media, websites,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: police scanners, emergency scanners. And how do you do that?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: You use AI to siphon it all in to phrases
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: and words. And then that's where it's directed. We got
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: something going on in Tennessee. We have something going on
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: in Oklahoma. We have something going on in British Columbia.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: And these people can be there within 24 hours. So
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: how are they doing that? They're using AI, a very
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: global type of system that helps them pinpoint where and who.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: And then there are what I call backdoor portals to people,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: whether it's in certain agencies like law enforcement, especially where
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of sightings. There is one or two
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: people that know what's going on and they may use
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: code words. So they may have a department they've talked
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: to before. Hey, you're getting a lot of sightings. If
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: you see anything again, I want you to use this
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: code word. Here's our number. So You may have a sheriff,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: a little podunk town out in podunk USA, and he
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: calls a number. He doesn't know where it's going. He
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: doesn't know who he's talking to. He just says, round
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: cow down, round cow down.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're probably on the take as well. They're
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: probably on the take as well. I mean, it's mind-boggling.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: I think we are, in my opinion, from doing this
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: for the few years that I've been doing it, We
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: are on the cusp of a watershed moment. There's something
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: that's going to happen because these things, people are seeing
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: them more or they're saying them more because it's like
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: a battle between. So the things that they use to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: surveil us, we're surveilling them as well. We're just catching
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: up to them. Like you can't, the Pandora box has
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: been opened and there's going to be a watershed moment
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: where these things are going to have to be spoken about.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: There's going to be where just one of these things
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: shows up in the middle of the town. And it's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: just like, well, there's no hiding this. We've had a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: hundred live witnesses. Even then they can suppress that. I mean,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: you know, look at what they did with the things recently.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: Well, getting back to those cousins.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: This was midday. There was people on the shore that
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: saw everything. They saw these cousins get attacked. And I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: got a call. I can't say how legitimate it was,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: but I was thinking this in my head. There had
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: to be people see this. Well, guess what? This person
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: called me and I don't know how they disguised their voice.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: And this was about a month later. And it basically
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: said something like this. I don't know the exact words,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: but it was around like this. It said, I saw
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: it all from the bank. I and many others were
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: interrogated at length. And this person that was telling me
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: was in this distorted voice. I was interrogated at length.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: not to say anything, but what your cousin, what this
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: cousin is saying is absolutely true.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: Even that could be a sign up, dude.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: It could be, it could be, but I thought about
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: why would someone just verify what I already knew? You
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? What, what would be the advantage
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: of that? Because I was still running with it. I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: wasn't stopping. Uh, so, uh, yeah, I mean, I could
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: go on to some others that were really something else,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: but that was the first big one that really kind
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: of set us on the map. And I, he did
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: give me permission to write about it, which I will
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: write about it. And eventually I will do a show
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: from that spot.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I did, um, this is an open invitation for
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: you to come back on any time you, you, I, my, uh,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: you know, my assessment of what you do is incredible.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: Um, Thank you. Oh, thank you, man. Um, uh, where
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: can people find you, man?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Well, uh, right now I'm designing a new website, so
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: I don't have a website up yet, but basically where
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: people can find me is on YouTube under monster nine
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: one one. Uh, that's my channel. And, uh, with that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: being said on each show, uh, people can reach out
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: to me just calling the toll free number that I have,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: which is, uh, eight six six three zero six eight
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: zero eight five. Or they can email me at monster911podcast
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: at gmail.com. And I put that on every episode. And
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: I'm starting to do some different series on YouTube Shorts
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: as well. But that's how people reach out to me.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: I get a few emails and calls every week. And
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: then I reach out to people. But I've gotten calls
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: from sea monsters, from Maui, from Saipan. uh, from creatures
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: roaming the plains of Mexico, uh, central Mexico. Uh, I've
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: gotten it, uh, someone called me from Peru one time. Uh,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: so I've, I've, uh, Australia, uh, the UK. So it's
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: all over Canada. Uh, so I've, I've, I've not just
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: centered to Sasquatch in this dog man type creature, but
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: really everything and anything that is very bizarre, something that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: people have They don't understand what they saw, whether it's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: a scaly looking creature or a creature that flies, or
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: I've gotten a lot of calls on UFOs and then,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: or people experiencing very strange apparition, ghostly apparitions, you name it.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: And I've kind of expanded into that because people want
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: to talk about that. They don't understand how to place it.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: And so they just need someone to talk with.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's fantastic, man. I want to thank you wholeheartedly
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: for coming on and talking with me today. This has
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: been eye-opening, and I'm sure people are going to really
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: enjoy this one.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: I know I have. And once again, man, thank you
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: for what you do.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: Anytime, Tom. I'd love to come back.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. All right, guys. I hope you enjoyed that one.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: We are the eye. We are aware. And I love
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: you all.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Thank you.