What if the Government Believes in U.F.O.s More Than You Do?

Interesting Times · Jul 24, 2025 · 59m

U.F.O.s, fairies and abductions! This week, Ross talks to Diana Walsh Pasulka, a professor of religious studies, about how a deep dive into Catholic archives led her down a path to unravel the connections between religion, extraterrestrial encounters and government secrecy.

01:53 - How Pasulka’s religious studies led to the U.F.O. debate

06:08 - Modern U.F.O. encounters and telepathic communication

13:29 - What are the actual beliefs of the U.F.O. community?

19:28 - Whistleblowers and government contradictions

31:35 - Angels, demons and “actual things in the sky”

45:38 - Disclosure

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