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J.Lo Cancels Tour, Selling The OC Scandals with Alex Hall · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. All right, you guys,
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  Speaker 3: let's get into it. J-Lo on Friday announced that she
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  Speaker 3: will no longer be doing her summer tour. Page six says,
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  Speaker 3: heart sick Jennifer Lopez canceling tour to spend time with
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  Speaker 3: kids amid Ben Affleck split and speculation. I saw this
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  Speaker 3: and everything clicked for me. Now I'm I may feel differently.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not always right about things, but I'm reporting it
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  Speaker 3: as I see it. I have felt that the publicity
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  Speaker 3: around their alleged issues has been very suspect to me
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  Speaker 3: as someone who studies pop culture and how this works.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that these stories were coming out, but they
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  Speaker 3: were still being seen, being photographed, and they were like
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  Speaker 3: all these little things being let out. They One was
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  Speaker 3: that they didn't go to the graduation for Violet together.
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  Speaker 3: And then the next thing, no, they actually did. They
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  Speaker 3: were looking for separate homes. No, it was just investment properties.
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  Speaker 3: We know that her whole thing with the This Is
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  Speaker 3: Me has not been the success that she thought. And
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  Speaker 3: she put her own money into it, $ 20 million, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: to have this, the music video thing with all the
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  Speaker 3: different vignettes and then the documentary thing. where then a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people on TikTok and whatnot made fun of it. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, anyway. And then that the ticket sales were
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  Speaker 3: very low for these big like arena tours that she
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  Speaker 3: was doing, which then caused people to think that maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's not a good idea for her to have this
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  Speaker 3: Vegas residency where she'd make a million a night. So
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  Speaker 3: first of all, I hope they stay married. I hope
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  Speaker 3: that she does have a wonderful summer laying low and
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  Speaker 3: hanging with her kids. The kids are young. And they
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  Speaker 3: hang out as a family and fall back in love
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  Speaker 3: because that's more important than tour or saving face. However,
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  Speaker 3: the story of all of this and her tour dates
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  Speaker 3: not doing that well has been evident for a while.
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  Speaker 3: And we knew about it when we started to hear
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  Speaker 3: the rumblings that they were struggling. And sources are saying
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  Speaker 3: this and all of this. So I don't think they're
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  Speaker 3: actually struggling. I think that they're fine. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that they played this up knowing that then when she
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  Speaker 3: if she kind of gave herself a deadline, like if
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  Speaker 3: I don't sell this many tickets by this amount of time,
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  Speaker 3: then we are going to cancel it and we're going
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  Speaker 3: to cancel it. And people will immediately assume I'm working
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  Speaker 3: on my marriage and I will gain respect for that.
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  Speaker 3: And that'll be the end of it. Because, listen, people
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  Speaker 3: cancel events, especially these big ones. Because they don't want
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  Speaker 3: to come out and perform for a half full house
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  Speaker 3: or less, especially in a big arena like that. Like
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  Speaker 3: if you're doing a small club and it's 300 seats
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  Speaker 3: and only 120 people come and they're right there like
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  Speaker 3: a comedy club, it's fine. You still do it. You
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  Speaker 3: still have fun. Or it's a small jazz club. That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: But when it's like. a vacuous arena. It's an already
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  Speaker 3: video came out of a recent show she had where
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  Speaker 3: we saw how many empty seats. Now the crowd was
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  Speaker 3: loving her and she was killing it, but this is
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  Speaker 3: just probably not what she wants. And she's probably like,
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  Speaker 3: why the fuck am I doing this? I don't need
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  Speaker 3: the money. If it's not going to be a sellout thing,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. I'd much rather stay
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  Speaker 3: with my kids and Ben. And this is a gift
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  Speaker 3: from God that it was a bust because now I
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  Speaker 3: can work on my family. But That is what I think.
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  Speaker 3: I really don't think that their marriage is in that
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  Speaker 3: much trouble now. And I think this was a really
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  Speaker 3: good publicity plan to get out of these dates and
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  Speaker 3: save some face. But it's not that good of a
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  Speaker 3: plan because I figured it out. Okay. I had such
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  Speaker 3: a fun time. Thanks to a Juicy Scooper. I got
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  Speaker 3: invited to a fabulous party on Thursday night. Netflix had
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  Speaker 3: this like award show for the reality stars. And we
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  Speaker 3: talk about it in today's interview with Alex Hall. And
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  Speaker 3: we did it about a week ago. And I told her,
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  Speaker 3: are you going to come? Unfortunately, she didn't come. But
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  Speaker 3: I was excited to go to this because I like
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  Speaker 3: to go to any party with past apps. I had
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  Speaker 3: no idea it was going to be even something I
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  Speaker 3: love more, which was we went to one of the
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  Speaker 3: agency's $ 52 million listing that's featured in buying Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 3: That is where this party was held on a beautiful sunset,
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  Speaker 3: 630 in the most expensive place. zip code of LA,
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  Speaker 3: which is Bel Air. And so we start going to
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  Speaker 3: this thing and I'm like, oh my God, Peter, we
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  Speaker 3: keep going up and up and up. This is going
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  Speaker 3: to be so good. And it was so fun. And
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  Speaker 3: it was to celebrate all their reality shows. One I'm
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  Speaker 3: bummed I didn't talk to Ryan from Million Dollar Listing
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  Speaker 3: New York. He now has a whole nother show on
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  Speaker 3: Netflix called selling Manhattan or buying Manhattan, something like that.
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  Speaker 3: And I did not realize that he was launching a
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  Speaker 3: new show that's coming out soon. But they had the
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  Speaker 3: Love is Blind girls there who I met, and that
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  Speaker 3: was really great. And then they're giving out awards. They
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  Speaker 3: had all the Selling Sunset OC people. Jason Oppenheimer won
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  Speaker 3: an award. And it was like fun and casual. It
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  Speaker 3: was all outside and everyone looked gorgeous. And all the
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  Speaker 3: realtors were dressed in completely inappropriate outfits, not good for showing,
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  Speaker 3: but I loved seeing them. And it was really fun
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  Speaker 3: to see so many people there that of the shows
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  Speaker 3: that we love and they were all nice. And I
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  Speaker 3: was kind of more like for some of them, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, so what now? Like the Love is Blind people,
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  Speaker 3: they all live in South Carolina, in Charlotte. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what are you doing now? And I guess there's another
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  Speaker 3: show coming out where some of them were utilized, which
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  Speaker 3: they should. They should utilize the star people. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: this must be so great. Like, you know, a year
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  Speaker 3: and a half ago, you weren't doing anything. And now
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  Speaker 3: you're like literally in a $ 50 million house, all modern, chic,
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  Speaker 3: the infinity pool. It was a good time. Then I
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  Speaker 3: came home and watched the breakup of The Summer House.
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  Speaker 3: with Carl and Lindsay. This relationship has been so incredibly
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  Speaker 3: fascinating to watch. I know I've not talked that much
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  Speaker 3: about Summer House, but watching this relationship. So this was
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  Speaker 3: a couple that came on the show years ago as
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  Speaker 3: platonic friends. Then they were best friends. Then they fell
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  Speaker 3: in love. And then they got engaged. And honestly, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't really believe that they were a real couple originally.
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  Speaker 3: I thought something else was going on with him. And-
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  Speaker 3: But then it kept going on and they filmed and
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  Speaker 3: they were planning their wedding. And then this whole season
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  Speaker 3: is leading up to their wedding and he basically cancels it,
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  Speaker 3: I think just like two months before it's supposed to happen,
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  Speaker 3: and breaks up with her. And they absolutely should be
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  Speaker 3: broken up. I mean, if there was ever a couple
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  Speaker 3: that should not be married, it's these two people. But
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  Speaker 3: I guess in the past, and I haven't watched it religiously,
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  Speaker 3: she comes off. sometimes could be kind of bitchy or unlikable.
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  Speaker 3: But he, his whole thing is, I mean, these people
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  Speaker 3: are pushing 40 and he's like, I got to figure
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  Speaker 3: out what I want to do career-wise because doing Summer House,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, you know, is not going to be a
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  Speaker 3: lifelong career when you're getting married and having kids. And
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  Speaker 3: he worked for the other guy, Luke, doing stuff for
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  Speaker 3: his like alcoholic brand called Loverboy. But then that didn't
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  Speaker 3: work out. So then he wasn't doing anything. And then
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  Speaker 3: he was like, I have an idea to do a
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  Speaker 3: sober sports bar. in New York. I don't think there's
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  Speaker 3: a worse idea than opening up a bar that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: serve any alcohol and is playing sports in New York
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  Speaker 3: with the rent and how hard restaurants are. So Lindsay
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  Speaker 3: was kind of like, I don't know if that's a
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  Speaker 3: great idea. And he's like, God, I just need you
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  Speaker 3: to be softer and be excited and be supportive. He's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: now I'm going to work for Loverboy again, making sober drinks,
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  Speaker 3: which I'm sorry. I just think a sober... sober drink. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there is a non-alcoholic beer and wine and
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  Speaker 3: I get it, but whatever. That's what he's going to do.
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  Speaker 3: And she was like, okay, but like then what? And
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  Speaker 3: he's like, God, I mean, listen, you have been very
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  Speaker 3: supportive about my career. And it's just, I said I
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  Speaker 3: would have a career. Like I gave myself nine months
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  Speaker 3: to figure out what my career is going to be
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  Speaker 3: and you should be supportive of it. I just want
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  Speaker 3: to say, thank God they broke up. But also their
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  Speaker 3: communication was so interesting to watch. Like the way– they
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  Speaker 3: were just so mismatched and their communication was so bad.
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  Speaker 3: But it was really– like if someone was studying communication
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  Speaker 3: of couples, they should watch them and realize what doesn't
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  Speaker 3: work because you know, he would try to get her
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  Speaker 3: to say something and then she would say it. It
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  Speaker 3: was just constant. They'd be like, I don't want to fight.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to fight. They were just always fighting.
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  Speaker 3: And thank God they didn't get married. And his own
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  Speaker 3: stepdad who marries people as a pastor was like, I
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  Speaker 3: would not marry you. And since then... He had these
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  Speaker 3: really big white teeth. He's appeared to get bigger, wider ones.
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe he's lost weight. I don't know. He always
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  Speaker 3: fancied wearing very skin-tight white jeans. And now they match
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  Speaker 3: his teeth. Just whatever. I just think it's a good
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  Speaker 3: call that they're out. And then one thing that he
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  Speaker 3: said was he did break up with her on camera. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he was a very good employee of Bravo
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  Speaker 3: to do that. And she was blindsided. And then he's like,
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  Speaker 3: I just know I'm going to. I'm going to be canceled.
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  Speaker 3: I know the world is going to rally around her
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  Speaker 3: because I broke up with her. But he does not
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  Speaker 3: have to worry. The world is so happy that she's
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  Speaker 3: not marrying Carl. Everybody is like, thank God, girl, you
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  Speaker 3: can do better. But I could see why a guy
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  Speaker 3: would be nervous about that, breaking up with someone on
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  Speaker 3: a reality show where, you know, 80% or 90% of
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  Speaker 3: the fans are probably female women.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: It's very interesting if you haven't watched it. The rest
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  Speaker 3: of the stuff is like kind of fun, but that's
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  Speaker 3: really the only storyline I cared about. And it was fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: He also, I don't know where he's going to go
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  Speaker 3: from here. He's very open about his sexuality. He was
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  Speaker 3: on Watch What Happens Live after show and talked about
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  Speaker 3: how he had a threesome and engaged in a guy thing.
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  Speaker 3: you know, giving him a BJ. And he said at
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  Speaker 3: the time, he said it was the best BJ ever had.
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  Speaker 3: Then he said, no, I've had better now that I'm
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  Speaker 3: engaged to Lindsay. But then Lindsay said to on the
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  Speaker 3: show that we barely were having sex or once every
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  Speaker 3: few weeks, which probably means once every two months. So
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  Speaker 3: who knows? All those things. It's good that they didn't
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  Speaker 3: marry each other. Okay. I talked about Joe from Vanderpump
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  Speaker 3: making up these strange lies. And that is why Schwartz
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  Speaker 3: was like got the red flags and really moved apart.
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  Speaker 3: I talked about it's sort of a trait of a
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  Speaker 3: grifter to make up lies, innocuous lies that don't matter.
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  Speaker 3: One of the other things I forgot to mention was
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  Speaker 3: Kristen Doty, who originally brought her into the group. Her boyfriend, Luke, said,
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  Speaker 3: I was surprised that when Andy asked her, are you single?
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  Speaker 3: Who would you like to date or something? She's like,
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  Speaker 3: do you know Aaron Rodgers? I'd like to date Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 3: Luke goes, I thought that was really weird because she
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  Speaker 3: told me herself. completely unsolicited conversation. Oh, I do Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Rodgers' hair. He flies me out to do his hair.
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  Speaker 3: And then Kristen goes, that's so weird because my actual friend,
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  Speaker 3: another real friend, I do know who does his hair.
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  Speaker 3: And he flies she and her wife out, and this
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  Speaker 3: is all on Kristen's podcast, to do So I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is such another grifter thing. She just took someone else's,
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  Speaker 3: another hairdresser's life that's like one degree away from her
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  Speaker 3: and just like took her story for her own and
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  Speaker 3: said it. So strange. So I talked about it on
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  Speaker 3: my Patreon and then someone said, you got to see
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  Speaker 3: the girl that they're talking about's Instagram. It's like Joe
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  Speaker 3: stole her identity. So I go to this girl's Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: Her name is Rihanna, R-I-A-W-N-A Capri. She has 420,000 followers.
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  Speaker 3: She does a lot of hair teaching. She does tutorials
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  Speaker 3: and all this stuff. And she's young and married to
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  Speaker 3: a woman, and they have lots of fun stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: that is who actually Aaron Rodgers allegedly flies out to
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  Speaker 3: do his hair. So I start watching her videos. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: my God. Not only does Joe look like her, but
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  Speaker 3: when this girl was explaining how to put in hair
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  Speaker 3: extensions— It's the way Joe talks. Like, so I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: who the fuck, who, what? And it's like, just a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that, not as much as Joe, but
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  Speaker 3: it's so interesting. And I just had to point it out,
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  Speaker 3: but she seems like a delight. And all of her
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  Speaker 3: photos look like Joe, like smiling, like all of them
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  Speaker 3: are like mid laugh, which is a lot of like, ah,
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of what Joe does, right? okay, we
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  Speaker 3: are not really going out now. Like all that kind of,
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  Speaker 3: and so when she was doing the hair extension on
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  Speaker 3: one of the videos, she was like, you guys, your
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  Speaker 3: hair expands when there's water on it. That is what happens.
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  Speaker 3: The particles expand. It's a crazy thing. And I had
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  Speaker 3: to point it out. And thanks to the Juicy Skipper
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  Speaker 3: that pointed out to me. One more thing on, and
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  Speaker 3: just like that, Che Diaz's character, you know, is gone.
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  Speaker 3: And Miranda, played by Cynthia Nixon, talked about it, and
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  Speaker 3: she just said it had run its course. The character's
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: arc had run its course. There was no other place
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  Speaker 3: for it to go. And that was the only reason.
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  Speaker 3: I'm personally sad about it because it was a love-hate
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  Speaker 3: with her character. And when we would watch it, we
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  Speaker 3: were like, more interested in her career with a failed
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  Speaker 3: pilot and the standup concerts, and then having to work
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  Speaker 3: at a vet place as an assistant and live at
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  Speaker 3: her and Buella's basement. To me, I wanted to see
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  Speaker 3: more of that, but they did break up. And so
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 4: So fun to be back here.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: So juicy. What season did I just watch? Three or four? Three.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Three.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: And this is with the Oppenheimer Tiny Twins. That's what
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I call them. I don't care. I love all the
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Selling Sunset shows. Actually, I guess there's like a Selling
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Sunset in like Tampa or something. I don't watch that one.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: That's not us, though. That's not the Selling– like our franchise.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: There's a Selling franchise, but our producers are only doing
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Sunset in Orange County.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, okay.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: So they didn't do– wait. Yeah, I don't think– Or
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: maybe they did shit. Actually, I scratched that. That could
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: be totally wrong.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: But it's not Oppenheimer.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: That's what it is. It is our production company.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: That's not Oppenheimer Real Estate Offices.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's where I got confused. It is our production company,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: but it's not Oppenheimer Group.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Yes. And you came on Juicy Scoop maybe like a
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: year ago.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: And there was a lot of controversy. There wasn't any
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: controversy then. I said, I predict that Tyler, who is
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the very cute guy who was married to Brittany Snow,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: the actress, I said to you, I predict this marriage
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: is not going to last. And you're like, why do
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: you think that? And I said, because I think Brittany Snow,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: you know, married a guy that she thought she was
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: marrying a normie and she was going to be the star.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: And He, because he's, you know, good looking, gets on
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the show that's a hit. And then he becomes a
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: personality and a star. And I'm not criticizing her. I'm
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: just saying sometimes when you start a marriage and you
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: think you know the roles and the roles switch for
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, it can be with non-fame related, you know, businesses.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: It can be all of a sudden your wife starts
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: working out of the home and the husband and the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: wife vice versa. It's just the dynamic changes constantly. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: if the foundation is not super strong, then it can't survive.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Totally.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: But some people thought you had to do with that breakup.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: No.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, the story– so I think– so I was
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: here season one then because I do remember you saying that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: So we've had two seasons since the last time I
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: was here. And I remember that exact moment when you
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: said that because what I had already known was that
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: they were getting divorced.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Tyler had told us very early on filming season one
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: that– him and his wife were not going to, it
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: wasn't going to work out. He had said, I think
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: they tried to make it work. And I don't, I
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: don't want to give too much. I don't know the
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: exact details of it. I only know what Tyler shared.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: And at this point, I don't trust him as far
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: as I can throw him. So I don't know if
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: any of it was true.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Let's hear about that later on. We could finish this part.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: So he had said that she told him, if you
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: do the show, we're going to get a divorce. And
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: he chose the show.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: So. Well, I mean, listen, I just did an interview
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: with Dr. Drew, you know, he's a doctor of therapy
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: and everything else. And I said, why do you think
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: that marriages don't work on reality shows? And he brought
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: up a really good point. When it comes to like
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Housewives or the Valley of the Vanderpump, where then you
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: relive the fight with your spouse, you know, seven months later,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: that could be a lot. But in this case, It
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: is kind of true what I said is like she
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: that's not what she gambled for. She thought she was
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: marrying a cute surfer that could bring in some good
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: real estate money. And I also think no offense to her,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: but I don't think her career is on a high.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Not saying it won't totally come back, but that's the
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: way entertainment is. Right. So when that can happen, you have.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: some insecurities or some, you know, it's tough when your
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: business is not going the way it has in the past.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: And again, the relationships would be so strong for that. So.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, there, I don't think there can only be very,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: very few relationships that survive reality television. Um, I think
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: it's not just the reliving the fight. I think it's also,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: you're a different, your life changes so drastically when you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: in the media. Yeah. for anybody. So if it's one
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: of the spouses or one of the significant others that's
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: in the media and the other isn't, that's a whole
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: culture shock. And you're dealing with watching this person who
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: you fell in love with and you had these humble
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: beginnings and it's either the fame gets to them or
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the lights. And people like privacy. There is no more
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: sacred relationship than your family, right? Your spouse or your children.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: And when you put media in that and you get,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: especially reality television, they're going to dig and dig and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: dig and dig until they want the drama. They want
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: the theatrics. And I don't, it's, I mean, it's never
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: in a million years would I have thought that being
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: on a reality show would have made my dating life harder.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: And so many people that I come, come across and meet,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: they hate that I'm on reality television. They're like, what
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: are you willing to quit the show? If we, I'm like, what? Wow.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Because that's, Well, I'm absolutely not surprised. I think it's
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: completely opposite with women. I think women are more attracted-
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: To a man that's on reality TV, because it's just
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: more natural that girls, there's more women, there's more daughters
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: of reality stars that love it, want to be models.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: And then the boys are like, oh, mom, get the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: camera guys out of the kitchen. It's just for men
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and women, it just kind of works that way. But
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think, yeah, I mean, like look at
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Vanderpump Rules. Tom Sandoval has a new girlfriend. And she
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: was dating Leonardo DiCaprio. And she now is dating him
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: and making out with him and they're saying, I love you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: And it's like, not that he shouldn't have another chance
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: at love and not that it could work, but obviously...
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: The odds are stacked. But is she someone that not
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: only– yeah, he's probably sweet to her and he's probably
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: great in the sack and she gets to go see
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: him sing his songs. You think he's great in the sack?
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm being nice. As if. I don't know.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Who knows? But I'm saying is there a little bit
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: in her– in the back of her head, whether she
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: shares it with anyone or not that like, Hey, I'm
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: aspiring actress model. The only way on Vanderpump is through, uh,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: you know, sex.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I would respect her more if that was her ulterior
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: motive or subconscious thought process rather than just going out.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: And I, I'm not here to judge anybody. I've never
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: met that man. I don't, I think I, the last
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: time I saw an episode of Vanderpump rules was in
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: like 2011 or something when it first came out. I
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: just know I've seen clips cause it's all over social
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: media and, I mean, that guy, I mean, he makes
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: me want to crawl out of my skin. So I,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: it's hard for me to imagine some girl, but it is, it's,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I think girls are more attracted to the light. We're
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: like flies.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: We want to go towards the light and, and men
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: are like.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And especially men of a certain caliber of like, I mean,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: the housewives, Ramona Singer from Real Housewives of New York.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I had a three hour lunch with her when I
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: was doing shows in Palm Beach. And it's kind of
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: what I had already heard, but she let me know
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: that like, Once she got divorced, she very much wants
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: to have a serious relationship and get married again. And
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: it really took them not asking her back and none
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: of the women back for her then to find the
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: right guy and for that relationship, in her opinion and mine,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to really last. Because he's like a high caliber guy.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: He's wealthy and successful and very nice. Everyone likes him.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But no, she goes, every good guy I met... She's like,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: she would go on dates and be like, God, praying
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: that they don't Google her. Because a lot of them
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: didn't know who she was. She was just a blonde,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: outgoing New York successful woman that looked younger than she
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: is and acts younger and everything. So most guys aren't like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I wonder if she's on The Real Housewives of New York. No,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: but when they found out, they would be turned on.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: You go out to one dinner though. I mean, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: haven't been on the big screen for nearly as long
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: as these women. And I can't even go out. I'm
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: just a little nobody and I can't go to a
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: coffee shop or to Especially in Orange County, obviously, because that's,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: you know, where most people are watching the show because
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: it's in Orange County. But when I go out on
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: a first date, I'm like, oh, my God, please, like, please, please, please, please, please.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: No one say anything.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what Ramona told me. And here's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: a tip for you. You know, when I met this guy,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: when I met my guy. You know, we had such
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: a great conversation on the phone. And, you know, he
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: picked a really beautiful restaurant. And, you know, sometimes when
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I want to change something, I want to, like, give
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: a compliment first. And then so I said, you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I really love that restaurant. It's really gorgeous. And I
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: really appreciate you thinking about how wonderful the food is.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: You do her so well.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Our conversation, it's kind of loud there. It's kind of loud.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: And I enjoyed our conversation so much. And when we
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: meet in person, I'd rather have a little quiet setting.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: What about this place? And I chose a place that,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you know, is not touristy. And I didn't think people
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: would be approaching me because, you know, when people approach
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: me and these girls come up and they're like, oh, Ramona.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I want a photo.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what? I'm having dinner. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: then they do a mean thing and said I was
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: rude to them.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know what?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I deserve to have dinner.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: So you have to pick.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: If you don't think the guy knows your scoop yet,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: maybe they all do, but if they don't, I would
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: just choose like a more chill place. Like I wouldn't
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: go to the Quiet Woman. I wouldn't go like, you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't go to Javier's. I wouldn't go to like
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: places in OC that are known. Because now when fans
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: of reality TV come to OC, a lot of Juicy
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Scoopers- they don't have to do, their kids are older,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: they're not going to Disneyland. And they're like, I'm coming
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: to LA. I want to go to the place that
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: the Kardashians get the salad. I'm going to go through,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: they're just.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I want an Air One smoothie, okay? Yeah, instead of.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Going like on the coast, they just go through the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: 101 to the 405. And then we're going to have
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: lunch at all the Vanderpump places in West Hollywood. And
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: then we're going to go to the OC. And we're
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: going to go to Javier's for lunch and Quiet Woman
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: for dinner. And they just want to see it because
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: they've watched all these shows. It's like when you go
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to New York and they're like, there's literally sex in
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: the city tour buses. It's like it's going to.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: We don't have that, though. And we don't have– it's
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: not tourists.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: It's locals. Right. And, like, it's the waitress and the
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: waiters and the people. And I'm very friendly. I always
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: will take a photo. And so it might even just
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: be my energy because a lot of times people, I'll
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: see them out of the corner of my eye and
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, okay, they probably– have seen the show or,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: and it's just that my, I can feel my intuition
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: and they'll walk by and we'll make eye contact. And
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: then we don't want to bother you, but we love
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: your show. And then they're starting to walk away.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Would you mind?
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: And it's always the husband or the boyfriend. She makes
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: me watch your show. She just has it. She really
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: wants a photo with you. Would you mind taking a photo?
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Which I think is really sweet for a first date.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Maybe not great, but it is what it is. And
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: you know, the fans are so sweet and so nice
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: and I can't, I mean, obviously without them, the shows
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: don't exist.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Right, yes.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: But it's just that back to.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Going on a date.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Going on a date, not wanting... I'm like, please don't...
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Even worse, don't watch the show. They're like, oh, I'm
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: going to watch... And the amount of photos I get
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: sent to me watching your show, I'm like, don't. Please
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: just get to know me first.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: From the guy, yeah.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: And so I even had a guy that I dated. Actually,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: the guy that I was dating at the end of
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: season three, he ended up moving.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: And.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: We dated and we really hit it off and he
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: was moving and he always knew that he was moving
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: to London. And I said, well, then why the hell
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: did you ask me out? Like that was stupid. And
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: he said– and he had seen the show. He had
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: already seen the show. He was blowing me up in
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: my DMs on Hinge, on every– I'm like, leave me alone.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: And I finally gave this guy a chance and we
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: ended up hitting it off. But I said, if you
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: always knew why you were leaving, why the hell did
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you ask me out? You know, I'm looking for something serious.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: And he said, well, I didn't think I was going
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to like fall in love with you. I just thought
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: maybe I would get lucky.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm like.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: that is so fucking rude. So these guys are taking
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: people out, taking women out with horrible intentions. And I
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: should have known it's my fault.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: But also like, Guys do like to brag if they're
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: 16 or 46 where they're like, look at who I banged.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: So true.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Look who I'm taking on. Look who's going to Cabo
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Which is not the guy that you want to end
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: up with.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: So I've got my sensors are a little bit more
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: sensitive now, if you will, since going in the public eye.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: But it's just, I mean, it's been three seasons now
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: and I still haven't fully wrapped my head around it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk a little bit about, this is like
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: a more casual photo of you guys. I think it's
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: so cute. But we have some of the players here.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: So we have Tyler in the brown shirt. So we
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: see in season two that you guys are flirting. You
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: seem to be, you know, having a major connection. And
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: it ends with you kissing in the jacuzzi at a
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: hot tub at a party. And that's kind of how
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: it ends. Yeah. So then we see season three, which
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: is available now. We come back.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: And.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like, well, did you guys date after that?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: So it's always been a back and forth with Tyler.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: And Tyler, just to remind people if you're not watching,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Tyler's the one who's now divorced or getting divorced from
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Brittany Snow.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: And it's always been, it's, I wish I had another,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: like a better story because even watching season three back,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: it's like triggering, you know, I don't know if that's
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the right word to use, but it brings back that
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: feeling because I'm like being bounced around. And that's what
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it was in real life for me. And I remember
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: so many conversations that I had with him where I
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: just wanted clarity. I just wanted to know what was
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: going on. I've never in my life.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Like what was his intention or are we going to
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: really try to be boyfriend and girlfriend or what?
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: And part of me up until very recently really thought
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: that he was kind of innocent in it all and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: maybe just had a horrible communicating or a lack of
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: boundaries or- you know, no backbone or whatever it was.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: And I do think now that it wasn't any of
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: those things. I think that he just didn't want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: commit to me, which I didn't even, like, I didn't
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: even start this whole thing. He was the one who
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: pursued me. And I had no, for season one, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: however they played it, I had literally zero interest in Tyler.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: His energy is so far off. opposite of what I'm
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: normally attracted to. And he was not- Why, why?
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: What's the difference?
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Because he's just like meek. He's kind of, which that
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: can be fine. I don't need somebody who's, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: needs to be the center of attention all the time.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: But I wanted somebody with like a high level of confidence,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: somebody that's going to grab the bull by the horn,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: somebody who's going to like provide, protect. Tyler didn't have,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: he's a cancer. He doesn't have any of those qualities.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: And production heavily pushed the narrative that you see, which
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: obviously- When you're filming with somebody or you're working in
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: an office with somebody, in a situation where I normally
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: in real life would say, okay, this just probably isn't
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: going to work. Let's not see each other again. We're
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: constantly having to see each other and be filming and
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: go on the boat and go in the parties and
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: do the open houses. So what it was like for
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: me is we would film and it would be one
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: side of Tyler. And then the second the camera stopped,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I got a completely different side of Tyler.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: What would you get? Nothing.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: And it's so.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Like what he didn't seem interested without the cameras.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Nothing. It would be, hey, like we made plans. Are
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: we still going to do that? And it would always...
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: He would always bail or he would always.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Unless the cameras were going to meet you?
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Unless the cameras were around.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: And so... But he always found like the perfect excuse.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And then every time I would say, okay, I'm... This
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: isn't going to work. We'd have another scene filming together.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: And he would reel me back in. And I was so...
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a 34-year-old woman. I've not ever experienced
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: this in my adulthood ever, nor is it something that
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I typically would engage in. And he always just had
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: the right excuse or, oh, he would say it was me,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: like a push and pull, and I would back off too.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: But my truth is that I would only back off
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: when the actions weren't aligning with the words, you know?
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: And so what's really crazy is we all see things
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: from our own lenses, right? So my experience, my perspective
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: was one way And I didn't realize how everybody else
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: was perceiving our experience.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: You mean the other cast members, other realtors?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: They only saw what they saw when we were filming.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Which seemed you guys were really into each other. Yes.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Or when we would all go out together. And when
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: we were in a group, Tyler was more like chill
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: and relaxed. And then whenever, like it was, he didn't
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: want to be seen with me one-on-one out in public.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Even when we went to Dubai, separately. I had a date.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: He had a date. We literally got invited completely separately.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: What were you going to Dubai for?
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: The grand opening of the Royal Atlantis. Atlantis the Royal.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, so that was that big influencer reality show. I
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: don't know why I was not invited. I don't know
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: why the fuck I was invited. Well, can you throw
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: my name in the hat? I'd like to go back.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I'm so jealous. Was that the greatest trip ever? Of
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a lifetime. It looked like amazing.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: You can't even put it into words. Pictures don't do
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: it justice.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Who all got invited from Selling Sunset?
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Just me and Tyler. And we didn't realize that we
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: both got invited until two weeks before we left.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Were you on the same flight or no?
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, we were on the same flight. He took his brother.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I took a date. Did you take the London guy?
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It was before I met the London guy.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: And it was an experience of a lifetime. There was
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of shit that happened, but it won't get
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: into that.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was just a shit show. Well, because... ironically,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Tyler announced his divorce the day we were leaving for Dubai. Ironically,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: he ended up getting stopped by press outside of the
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: airport entrance, which was the same entrance I went into
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: and I didn't get stopped by any press. And then
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: the whole time we were in Dubai, he was like,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: it was like COVID all over. He's like, stay six
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: feet away from me. I can't be seen with you.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: And I said, I'm your, like, that's actually very hurtful. Like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: we're in this, in Dubai, a million miles away from home.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: And You're like my friend.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: So he was afraid that if photographers saw you guys together,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: that then that would give the narrative that you guys
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: were dating when he was still married and that would
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: make him look bad.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Well, there was already– the day we got there, there
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: was already a tabloid that said Alex Hall and Tyler
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Sandlin whisk off to Dubai day of announcing his divorce
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: or something like that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Right. And I'm like– and me– Like a rendezvous between
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: the two of you, not this paid influencer thing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Which is so stupid. Yeah, we're going to Dubai. Like,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: come on, give me a break. And at that point,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: I'm still thinking to myself, who gives a fuck? Like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: we know, I know my truth. You know your truth.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: We're not dating. We had separate rooms. Like, nothing of
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: the sort. And- We always used to joke like.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: But at one time you did.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, but we always used to joke that we're guilty
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: of the crime.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: But at one time you guys were dating and intimate, correct?
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: But it was still.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Never committed.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't even call it intimate because it was so
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: fucking like ping pong.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Back and forth. Yeah, but you boned. But no. You
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: never had sex? No.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: And yeah.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: No, we never had sex.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm shocked.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: And.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: So you just make outs and stuff.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, and in his defense, he's a I mean,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I did not think he was going to be a
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: great kisser, but he's a great kisser.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: He's gorgeous.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: He is a great kisser.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: So it was just dry humping.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: And some humping, yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dry humping. That's my favorite.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, we dry humped all the way home from
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: San Diego one night in the Sprinter van. It was great.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: But it was nothing more than that because it got
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: to a point where we were, right when we finished
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: filming season three, his energy started to finally become normal again.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: And we all took a trip to Palm Springs. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, wow, maybe this is something. You're different.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Your energy is different. And we did like a live
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: video and he wasn't worried about being in it. And
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: he was more carefree, not so obsessed with what the
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: image is or anything like that. And which didn't ever
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: make sense why he cared what the audience would think
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: when we're filming a show and we're like cameras are
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: in our faces and we're filming. Why do you care
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: what the tabloids then say? It was so weird. And.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: And then it, yeah, it didn't, it ended there.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And so then in the show, you kind of show
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: your frustration in season three that you're like, I don't
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: get what's going on. Like, won't write me back. And
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: then you meet this guy, the London guy that we
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: briefly talked about. And you say in it, like, to him,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I don't have that chemistry with London guy. And that's
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: when I was like, well, honestly, she doesn't care about
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: London guy because she cared about London guy. She knows
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: that this scene is going to be shown again. A
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: few months in advance, or you forget about the cameras.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: I'm just very open. My London guy knew about Tyler.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I know, but if you really liked London guy, and
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: then he's sitting watching the show, and you say six
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: months later, I don't have the chemistry with London guy
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: like I do with you, Tyler. If I was London guy,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, well, this is embarrassing.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: It's the truth.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: So that's the truth, but you're not with London guy
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: once it aired, so it was okay.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Well, no, we, we, no, we weren't together, but we
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: were together. I wasn't worried about that. I was, I'm very,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: nothing that I'd ever said on the show about him
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: was ever a lie or like sometimes the truth hurts
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: and the truth was, but here is also, it was
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: my truth then, but I think dissecting it and, you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: having been therapized for the last eight, nine years of
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: my life I think it wasn't chemistry between Tyler and
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I I think it was that that when you're confused
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: and you just want answers and you it was the
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: chase and the pull and the push and the you
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: know it was it was a psychological game right It
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: wasn't chemistry. I didn't feel safe with Tyler ever. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: never felt like secure. I never felt intimate. And that's
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: what chemistry is, you know, chemistry. And you can think
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: someone's hot and want to make out with them. But
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: when I was saying the chemistry, looking back, it really
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: was just that like teenage girl in me wanting to
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: be liked or wanting to be, you know, wanting to
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: know what the fuck was going on. I was like
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: wanting to get to the end of whatever this chapter was.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: And I could never get answers from Tyler. And I
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: finally got my answers, but not from Tyler. But I
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: figured out a lot after we stopped filming.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: When did you finish filming?
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: We finished filming season three a year ago.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: A whole year ago. And you have not seen him since?
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Because he left the Oppenheim group, right? He did. Did
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: he go back to his dad's office?
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: And why did he start at the Oppenheim group? To
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: get on the show?
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: So he went back to the dad. Yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: He wanted to, like, have his, you know, me time. And,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: you know, he's married to somebody who's got a whole platform.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: He's living in everyone's shadow. And honestly.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: And it's not like your dad's not going to take
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: you back.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: He's got a safety net.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: That's who Tyler is.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: He has a luxury of having a safety net. I've
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: never had that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Well, to remind people, you are a single mom. You
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: told your very inspiring story. And by the way, Mary's
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: book is coming out.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: It is out.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I have it. Okay, maybe it's not out.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's not available until September.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: But Mary from Selling Sunset Beverly Hills, she came on
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: my show and she was a teenage mom.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: And you were two.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: And got married and had two kids.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Hence why you have young teenagers. Yeah. And you're only 34.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you didn't have the safety, like that whole,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: you know, the privilege of having.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Not even my parents. Like my parents were blue collar
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: workers who, you know, loved me to pieces. But I've
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: never had financial, I've never had what a lot of
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: people have. And there's no problem. That's fucking great. But
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: it shapes you and it molds you into who you are.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: I have a very strong backbone.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Your choices are- you know, made with that in mind,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: whatever that might be. You know, you can, sometimes you
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: can take bigger risks. Sometimes you have to take bigger
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: risks because of what, because you don't have anything else. So, um, okay.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: So you've not run into him or anything.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I have literally not seen or spoken to that man in, we, we,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: we obviously, we spoke after the show and then after
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Palm Springs and then You know, some stuff happened and
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, out of the blue, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: was blocked. He was announcing his departure from the Oppenheim group.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: And from the show.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: And from the show. Didn't tell me anything. Polly actually
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: called me and said, do you know that.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: You– Who's Polly? Oh, Polly.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Polly from the show.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: This pretty English girl, yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: She said, do you know that you're blocked and like
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: four other people are blocked?
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: From Instagram and stuff? Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I said, what? I said, how do you even know?
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: How can you even see who's blocked to you? And
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: she goes, oh, yeah, you're blocked. So-and-so's blocked. I said,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: where did this come from? And I called him and
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I had a conversation with him. And I was just like,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: what the fuck is wrong with you?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: And what did he say to it?
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: He's just– he never really has answers. He's just a–
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I told him. I said, you have very coward-like tendencies.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: And he goes, yeah, you're right.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: I do.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I'm working on it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Interesting. So now when I– so you have a fun Instagram.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to go back to this photo. But
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: there was something– where was it? Maybe I didn't take
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: the photo of it. But it was the, you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: you were in Lake Cuomo. Oh, yes. And you, and
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I felt like it was when you were getting shit
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: because I guess maybe Brittany still had done an interview
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: and I think maybe fans or something were coming after you,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: making it sound like you might have been the impotence
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: for their relationship ending.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: And you were like, I'm in like Cuomo having the
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: time of my life while you're talking about me. Was
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: that in reference to what was going on in social media?
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: The irony is that that post was actually geared towards
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: the trolls. Right.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: The trolls. Yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: It wasn't geared towards Brittany Snow.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: And that post I think came out on the same
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: day that her pot or the day after, or I
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: And everyone thought I was talking about her and I wasn't.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: And it's just– the irony is that then my– all
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: of the trolls went to that post and were commenting
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: about the podcast that Brittany Snow had just done. Like,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: you guys are missing the fucking point here. Like, this
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: has nothing to do with Brittany Snow. I'm literally just
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: talking about you guys. But did– I haven't listened– I
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: never listened to the whole podcast, but obviously I listened
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: to what she had said, you know, and geared towards me,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: assuming it's geared towards me. And even if it wasn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: geared towards me, the audience– assumes it's geared towards me and.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: And you took offense to it of course because you
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: said I have been a victim yeah of cheating and
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I would never do that with a marriage if someone
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: was married.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Ever I mean I honestly I've been cheated on so
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: many fucking I thought it was a rite of passage
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: of being a woman like I just thought that every
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: woman has been cheated.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: On that is not true so I have not been cheated.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: On I I'm like okay I have but I get
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: that I just I have been cheated on so many
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: times that But I mean, but young, like I got
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: married at 19 and there was infidelity there too. So
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I was, and it's interesting because it never really jaded me.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: I always thought it was way more about him than
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: it was about me. I was very confident in, like,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I loved being a mom. I was a fantastic wife
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: and I did everything I could. It was a him issue.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: And every time that a man had cheated on me,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: it was a him issue. And I just obviously pick
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: My picker was off.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Well, it is a him issue. That is true. It
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: is something insecure in yourself that you need to get
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: that validation from another person. It's like an ego boost.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: And if you're unhappy, somebody who cheats is a coward
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: and can't actually have a conversation with their significant other
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: and say, hey, I'm lacking or I'm unhappy or how
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: do we fix it? Or I don't want to fix
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: it and let's move on.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Or it's so sticky. So it's so uncomfortable. So it's
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: a little bit of having your cake and eating it too.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get divorced, but I love the
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: way this outside person makes me feel. And that's where
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: the good sex is. And that's where the freshness is.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: But I don't want to leave my wife, kids and house.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Totally have your.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Cake and eat it too. Or I want to keep my,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: I love my family, but I also want to, you know.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Have this excitement.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And so there's no, I mean, whether it's an
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: emotional affair or a physical affair, I just think it's
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: such bullshit because I'm so direct and, And everything happens
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: for a reason. I've learned so much from every relationship
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: that I've been in. But I am not the kind
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: of person that would ever engage in infidelity. And I
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: would never not be direct. If I was unhappy in
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: a relationship, I would express that and I would move forward.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: And I just– were there things that maybe season one–
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: could have been done differently and maybe we're hurtful. Yeah, maybe.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: And I take full accountability for that, but infidelity and well,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: like in this, absolutely not in this.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Photo, we'll get into who is in it. I don't
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: have a photo of Kayla. And so what happened with Kayla?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: She also is a single mom in season three. I've
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: met her. She was very pleasant to me at a party. And, um,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: And she's a new realtor and a single mom. And
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: she gets on the show. And in season three, she
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: gets this enormous listing, which is a big storyline.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: But they talk about how you went on a podcast
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: and you said something like.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: She's batshit crazy.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Offer rocker.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Needs to be medicated.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Was that my podcast? No. Okay, good. Because people were like,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: was that what– I'm like, I don't remember her talking
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: about any of the cast, you know, like that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't do many– I think I've done like
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: five podcasts.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: And why– and so they found out about while you
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: were filming. Yes. And, you know, you felt badly and
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: you did go to her. Yeah. But why did you
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: say that about her?
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Because I think that she's batshit crazy off her rocker
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: and needs to be medicated.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: What did she do that made you think that? Wasn't
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: she going after Tyler at one moment?
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: So she made out with him one late night?
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think they ever made out. No, no,
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: they never made out. Who was the person that he
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: made out with? Paulie made out with him.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: After him and Brittany separated, Paulie and him got drunk
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: one night, made out in the office.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Went back on those metal chairs and made out?
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: No, there's a big couch.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: There's two really big couches.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: And horrible. place to do it. I'm like, seriously, like
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: go to your house and do it. Like, why are you,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: our office is a fishbowl.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: It's all glass. Yes, yes, yes. I'm like, are you insane? Okay.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, you got yourself into that pickle.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm sorry. That was with Polly. Yes. So what
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: was the story with Kayla?
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Season one, before he was getting divorced and before anybody
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: knew any of that, she had approached him multiple times, intoxicated,
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: wanting to seduce him and say, you know, no one,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: and he was like, Kayla, I'm married. Obviously, also, he's like,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: you're not my type, you know? And she goes, no
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: one has to know. And I think, and I've given
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Kayla so many chances and I have a very soft
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: spot in my heart for her because we can relate
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: on so many things because we have had similar struggles
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: as being single moms. And I see this, I do
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: see this like genuine side to her, but the problem
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: is that she has multiple sides. With me, what you
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: see is what you get. I don't have another side
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: behind closed doors or to the public or to my
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: friends or to clients. I am who I am. And
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: with her, it scares me because I don't know if
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: she's if she actually believes the things that she says
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: or doesn't– actually doesn't remember or there's something happening because
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: her memory lacks a lot. I don't– and maybe it's
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: like drinking and then forgetting or– I don't want to
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: make any accusations, but her excuse is always I didn't
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: say that or I don't remember that or that didn't
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: happen when like we have the receipts of things that
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: did happen and we have the– people were there we've
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: we've witnessed things we've experienced things and for example the
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: end of season three i go and apologize to her
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: because we find out that it is about her and
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: to be honest that came out i i filmed that
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: podcast like six months before and to be honest with
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: you i thought it was about brandy i didn't even
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: think it was about kayla and we had called justin
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: who i did the podcast with who's an oppenheim agent
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: who has a podcast very dear friend of mine and
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: um we called him that day at the beach when
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: the girls were like, is it about me or what?
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my God. I'm like, I didn't
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: write it in my fucking diary. I went on a podcast. Like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: just go listen to it. I'm sure you can find
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: out who it was about, right?
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: So we called Justin, who we all know. And I said,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: is this about Kayla? Because I don't fucking remember. And
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: he goes, no, it's not. And I said, okay, it's
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: not about Kayla. And they're like, well, why didn't you
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: put out the name? Because he put out a teaser.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: It said, and out of respect for Kayla, this is
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: what he said, I bleeped out her name because I
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: didn't want that you know going out there and i
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: said okay that makes sense after the fact because then
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: they found the whole podcast on some platform.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Well i mean you can find it anywhere and so
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: then i look like the asshole and you look like.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: A liar i look a total fucking liar i look
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: like a bag of dicks i'm like that fucking sucks
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: but then once we find out that they've got it
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: is about me i say okay listen it was about
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: you sorry that i sorry that i hurt your feelings
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: you know And I apologized and I tried to start
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: over with Kayla because there was so much water under
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: the bridge at this fucking point. And maybe two weeks
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: after we're done filming and we hug and we've been
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: to company lunches together. We've sat next to each other.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: We're sending each other self-help books and we're talking about
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: the kids. And she says, I'm so glad that we
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: are back to this level of us. And I said,
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: I agree. We work so much better when we're not
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: pushing against each other. Three weeks later, I get sent
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: a video from TMZ and Kayla at Balboa Bay Club,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: and she's calling me racist. Racist? Where did that come from?
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, what in the world? And I
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: am like fuming.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: That's where she came up with that? But what evidence
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: was there?
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: I literally have no idea. She goes, you know, the microaggression,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: and she treats us a certain, and it's only geared
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: towards us. I'm like, I mean, I'm not even hearing anything.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, this is complete bullshit because we had
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: made amends.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: And so then she sends me and Jason actually like
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: our Netflix PR was all over because you can't, those
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: allegations are insane. You can't be in the public eye
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: or on a show and say shit like that, especially
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: unwarranted out of nowhere. And Jason called me and my
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: production company called me and Netflix PR called me and
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: they were just like, this is so unacceptable. Jason told me,
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: he said, I called her. I talked to her. She,
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: it's not getting through to her. Like she's not understanding
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: how fuck, like how you can't do that. And Jason
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: is very like, I'm scared of Jason. You don't want
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: to be on his bad side. And he will just
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: tell you, shut the fuck up. You can't do that.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Like get it through your fucking head. And she was
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: apparently saying, well, she said all these things about me.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: So it's not the same. The gossipy, bullshitty drama stuff
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: is not an accusation and allegation like somebody's racist.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: That's a character assassination.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: A hundred percent. And it's horrible for everybody involved.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Right. You know?
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: And so she's defending herself. She sends me a text message,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: you know, within the same 24-hour period, whatever. And she goes, hey,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: just want you to know TMZ did come up to
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: me and I did say some things. You know, I
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: did speak my truth. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And–
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: but if you want to talk about it, like– I'm
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: happy to talk about it. And I'm also not sure
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: if I can move forward with this friendship. I'm like, oh,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: now you can't move forward. So I, that was it.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: And I blocked her. I blocked her on socials. And
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: now during interviews, because season three has finally come out
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: a year later, she's going in the press saying, I
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: don't know what the hell's wrong with her. Like she
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: blocked me and she blocked my family members. Like this
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: is why I don't trust her. And I don't ever
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: think her apology was genuine. Like, are you not remembering?
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: That you went into a news article and made horrible
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: accusations about me and my character that were completely unwarranted
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: and false after we had made amends. And now you're
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: going in– this was like three weeks ago. We had
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: a press day and she's telling them that my apology
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: was never genuine because I blocked her. I'm like, you're
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: missing a big chunk of the fucking story here. But
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I'm like, do you not realize that or are you–
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: is there a problem up here? Does that make sense? Like,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: I don't actually, I feel like I'm dealing with crazy.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've had stuff like that happen and it's just,
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: it's awful because when someone hears it, even if, you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: now someone's going to hear this and be like, God,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I did hear that. I'm so glad I heard that
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: interview on Juicy Scoop because now I see Alex's point.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: But three years from now, someone's going to put a
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: comment and they're going to say you're racist because they
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: remembered seeing her story first and they never heard the
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: follow-up to it. So once you throw out or hurl
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: an accusation, for years, I mean, I have one thing
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: that'll come back that happened 10 years ago in the press,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: and people will still... Yeah. Say this is true. And
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not. It's been proven over and over
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: that it's not true. But it is what it is.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: And it's just even though it didn't ruin my life,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: it ruined it for a little bit. But it's upsetting
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: when you read a lie. Whether it's a comment or something,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: it's really upsetting. And it like throws off your day.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: And that's why you don't throw out those things.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: But you're– these people, this is what's– you know, worrisome
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: is that they're like loose cannons. Like you don't even
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: realize like the etiquette that you have to, there's a
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: little bit of a boundary that we as being on
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: reality television have to stay between the lines a little bit.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: And the problem when somebody throws out a, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: a race card or whatever it might be, I can't
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: even touch that with a 10 foot pole. They're like,
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: you don't say anything. You don't, don't respond. Don't, don't, comment.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: And you're like, but I want to defend myself.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: What do you say to that though?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: It's better that you don't defend it. It's better that
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: you keep it quiet so it doesn't have legs. But
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: at the same time, like I said, someone who heard
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: that is going to think about that for the rest
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: of your life. But you're like, But if I don't
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: give it any life, it'll die quicker. But at the
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: same time, there's going to be a small percentage of
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: people that heard it, that thought it.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: It's what I mean in such a cancel culture society.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Here's the truth. And I'm not even sounding I'm not
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: trying to be conceited or cocky or arrogant. But let's
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: just say that grew legs. And something, I mean, I
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: don't know really how cancel culture works if it actually
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: is based on proof or facts and evidence. But let's
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: say something happened and I got, then they're like, oh,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: you're not on the show.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I call it Hollywood stink. You get some stink on you. Yeah.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean that you won't ever have a career,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: but you got stink on you. Right. And you got
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: to live through it.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: And let's say, and I'm a professional. We're not on
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: a reality show. I'm not a waitress. Like I'm a
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: fucking professional woman. Right. Providing for my kids just like you, Kayla.
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: And I said, and let's say I got canceled.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: I said, the reality of it is, Kayla, is that
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: what's the show?
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: What's the show?
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Everyone wants to, not everybody, but Kayla sure wants to
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: attach herself to a Tyler or to a me to
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: make drama to be relevant. So you want me to get,
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: now I'm off the show. Tyler's off the show. Jarvis
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: is off the show. You guys don't even have a
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: fucking show anymore. Like, be smarter with your comments. Like,
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: what are you, this isn't a joke. Yes. You know
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: what I mean?
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: It's just. Good point.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: What are you doing? It's just whatever.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: No, it's true. I mean, essentially, I think that the
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: racist allegations towards Ramona is what ended it for the OGs.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: That is my personal opinion. That's a.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Card you don't want to... You can't play that card.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: You don't ever want to touch that And you can't
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: dig your way out of it. That's the problem. You
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Because once that is out there,
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: that accusation, you can't defend yourself.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Right. You can't.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Because you're damned if you do.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Wait.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: I want to ask about these two guys. Which one?
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: On the end, Austin. Yeah. And what's this guy's name
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: in the yellow?
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Talk about a good-looking group of people.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, you guys are gorge.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: What a great photo.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: So wait. What is that cat's name?
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: Which one? Austin and Sean.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Sean. So Sean... Is on the show. And he's in marketing.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: And from the earlier season, he says, I'm bisexual.
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: And then this was pretty juicy. So Austin is married
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: with twin daughters who are toddlers.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: And a newborn.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, now they have a newborn. And, you know, great
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: looking guy. And both of them are great looking. And
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Sean says... I went over there one night and they
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: basically asked me to have a threesome with them. And then,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: you know, so he, that's rumors going around. And then
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: he goes and tells his wife what the rumors going on.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: And she's like, you mean the night that he came
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: over and made, I made him cookies and we talked
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: about nothing.
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: And then he's like, but there was something in the
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: cookies and they were insinuating. And then when Austin like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: and Tyler are like, what the hell are you doing?
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: And then he goes, well, you, Tyler, you were writing
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: me these long texts about working out together and that
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I have good calves and love you, dude. And so
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: clearly you must be gay for me too. And they're like,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: what's going on? And then they bring up the fact
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: that he's had his license for two years, even though
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: he came from like a paid marketing background, he is
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: a licensed realtor and he's never sold a house. So
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty juicy. Do you think, what
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: do you think of those, um, Do you think it
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: was to have, if I can't sell a house, at
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: least I can stay on the show because I've created
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: a crazy storyline?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I actually think it happened organically. I don't think it was.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Premeditated or planned out? I mean, obviously he went over
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: there and hung out.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: It was premeditated, but I don't think he did it.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think he went out. I think
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: he went and hung out there.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: He did. I remember.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: And... but I don't think they like officially propositioned him.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: If he wanted to interpret it a different way or
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: just throw it out as juicy conversation, just to get,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: sometimes people just say stuff that are lies or exaggerations
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: just to have the conversation turn to them. And then
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: you've got the cameras on and someone's like, well, that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: wasn't the first time I was flirted with by Austin.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: And like, what, what? Tell more. And then everyone's looking
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: at you and you feel like, I've got to tell,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's happened. It happened with a famous newscaster that,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: you know, he had a little story. And then every
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: time he went on a talk show, they would be like,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: tell that story about how you were in the helicopter
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: that almost went down. And then one day someone realized
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: he was never in that helicopter. And it's like, but
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: they kept asking and asking. And so that's kind of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: what I think. And then I think You know, he's
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: in a panic and cameras are there and Austin's really
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: is like, that's not true.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: And but then also, again, by saying it's not true
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: in this world of 2024, you don't want to appear
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: like you're homophobic.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: And that you have anything against some hanging out with
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: having a friend who's not straight as a man. So
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: there's that.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: Austin has been a male model for decades.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Ever. So he's been around gay people in the industry
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: from the beginning.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's got more gay friends than not, okay?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: And this man is one of the most confident men
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: that I know. If he wanted to be gay or
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: if he wanted to have a threesome, he wouldn't lie
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: about it. Right.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: So... That's what I thought.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe Sean is, in his mind, again, going back to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: whatever his perspective is, maybe he does think that they
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: wanted to. Maybe he does think that Tyler wants him.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe he does think that Austin and Lisa want to...
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: Was that the reality?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: And that night that Austin invited Sean over, I actually
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: was talking to Lisa and Austin, and they told me,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: they said, yeah... it was weird because none of us
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: were very close with Sean except Pauly. And they're no
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: longer friends. And so Sean would try to sometimes randomly
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: reach out to us, the people that he wasn't very
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: close with, to try to have allies or just stay relevant.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: And it was obvious that it was kind of forced.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: But one night, and maybe it was genuine. I don't know, actually.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was genuine and pure, but it wasn't. It
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: wasn't consistent and we were all really busy. So that
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: might not be fair. Maybe it was genuine. And, but
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: none of us really got close to him. So this night,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Austin is out on a date with his wife, Lisa,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: and they got a sitter for the kids and it's
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: date night. And they're out in like some other part.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: They're not even in Orange County. They're far, they're like
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: in Anaheim is Orange County. It doesn't matter. Austin gets
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: a text from Sean and Sean says, Hey, what are
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: you guys doing?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I'm bored.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: You know, can we hang out? And Austin told me,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: before this rumor came to the surface ever, he said,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: and I felt bad, you know, even though we were
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: on date night, I invited him to crash the party,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: you know? And I'm like, what? It's your date night
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: with your wife, you know? He's like, yeah, but I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: felt bad for him. So he ended up, he came over.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: It was kind of awkward. We played the, what's the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: headset that you- Oh, the head.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Game where you- No, Oculus.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, Oculus. The AI thing where you're- I think that's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: what he said.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: And he said, and Lisa made cookies or whatever. And-
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: And then he left. And the whole point in Austin
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: telling me the story was just because it was weird
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: that– because none of us really ever hung out with Sean.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: And so– and Lisa is the– like what you see
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: of her on the show, she's the most chill, no drama.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: She's a homemaker. I mean this woman makes homemade sourdough
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: bread and like she's just– I mean, to deal with, like,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Austin is the outgoing alpha energy, and she's just the...
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: And they've been together for, like, 20 years, okay? She
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: deals with it all. So what I was thinking is
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: the audacity that Sean has after this man has invited
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: you into his home to crash his date night because
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: he felt bad for you because you said that you
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: were lonely, and then you make an allegation like that.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just... Either.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: They're both either... Austin is completely sociopathic and has everybody
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: fooled or what we've all seen kind of from Sean,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: which is him being, you know.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I think from watching it, I think Sean was insecure
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: and desperate and he wasn't really clicking with anybody and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: he didn't have the big listings to show off. And
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: I think he was like, I'm going to have the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: cameras on me somehow because if I don't have the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: cameras on me, they're not going to ask me back.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: But he left.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Well, after this he did. But I think the attempt
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: of telling the story. And then once there was so
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: much anger about the lie, then I think he was like, oh, fuck,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: why did I ever say that or exaggerate that? And
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: now I don't know how to get out of this
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: hole without saying, like, I lied. He just was like, well, you, Tyler,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: said I had nice calves. And, like, he's like, what?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: And so it just, you know, he was just, I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: think he was grasping to stay on the show. So
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: now he has left the Oppenheim group, too. He left.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: He left.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: He said he got the villain edit, which I don't
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: think he got the villain edit. I just think that
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: there was, I think it's refreshing to see some drama
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: with the guys.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: No, I loved it. I'm like, even though obviously I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: feel for Austin and I've even had very close friends
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: of mine text me. So Austin's obviously gay, right? I'm like, no,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: he's not. And if he, he's, it's just all the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: people Austin would, he hadn't, he would have no problem
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: admitting any of this. That's why it's funny. It's the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: irony is not lost on me, but people who are.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Just like, it wasn't true. And you're like, that just
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: wasn't true. And then, yeah. And I'm again, not homophobic
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: if it was true, but it's just not true.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: It's a very bizarre situation.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: It is very, um, weird. Okay. So, um, So you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: were at the 40 Most Powerful Women in Reality TV.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I was there. And then I saw that Mauricio, who's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: also on Netflix, for buying Beverly Hills, he just posted today.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: He likes to do selfies. He likes to do fit check. Anyway,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: he said, I am so excited to be nominated for
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: the first ever Netflix Superlative Award for the category most
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: likely to seal the real estate deal. Please head to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: my IG to vote. What is that about? And are
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: you nominated for any of this stuff?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a great nomination, right? I would be
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: wearing the jacket too if that was my nomination. My
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: nomination was shit and I'm not partaking in it.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Wait, you were nominated or you weren't? I was. What
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: were you nominated for?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Not most likely to close the deal. What is it?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: I was, oh my God.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Tell.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Such bullshit.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: Just tell.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: Stupid. I'm nominated for most likely to stir the pot.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: Which I think is horseshit. What does that even mean?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: I feel like I don't stir the pot.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: Wait a minute.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Do you think I stir the pot?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, so that's going to be– this is an event
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: that's happening. And you're not going to go?
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, you are.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: I already– the event already took place.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: That one already took place?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: It was on Saturday where all of the nominees got together.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: No, but then there's– oh, well, I'm invited to the party,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: I guess. That's tonight. Well, probably when this airs.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: I don't want to– I don't like that.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: All right. I just wanted to hang out with you more.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: I don't fucking stir the pot.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe I can still go to the party. I bet
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: you I could.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Why don't you go to the party?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Why don't you go to the party and we hang out?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: That's fair, actually.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Because, okay. I do like the jackets.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: The jackets are cool, right?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And you need more of the jackets. I love this.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: This is Tarek.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Marketing genius.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Tarek Moussa. He and his wife had Flip or Flop.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: And what is the wife's name?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: Which one?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: The new wife is Heather. Heather. And the other one is,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: I forgot the other one's name. Christina.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Christine or Christina.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Christina. And Christina and he got married and they
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: had a couple of kids and then she they got
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: divorced and she married this other guy was like a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: contractor on the show and had a baby with him
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: and they did not have a happy divorce. Meanwhile, he
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: fell in love with Heather, who is a realtor on
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: selling sense at Beverly Hills. They get married and have
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: a baby. But the beauty of it is they're all friends.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: Love it.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: And in on it. And they are coming back with
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: a show where, what was so funny is her, okay, wait,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: this is such a bold word. Wait, Christina's new husband. Yes.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Is a sibling to a really good friend of Heather's.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 7: Who?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: This girl, Jessica. I once did their podcast. I did
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Heather and Jessica had a podcast.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, before Sunset.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, interesting.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: And then Jessica's brother married Christina.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Such a small world.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: And I love that they're all friends because I know
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Heather is, you know, a very, you know, a very
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: dedicated stepmother to those kids. And so now they're having
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: a show where- Christina and the new husband and Heather
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: and Tarek.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, the husband's on it too.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, compete with who makes more off of flipping a house. Oh.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: And so they did this really funny thing because, and
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: but they, right from the beginning, it was like, oh
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: my God, these wives look so much alike. Wife one
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: and wife two. So true. They both are thin, blonde.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: Brown eyes, I think both.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, long blonde hair, the same style and cute. And
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: so they wore the same outfit and they do this bit.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: And I just thought it was so funny.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: I think it's brilliant. I mean, obviously, like I'm in sales,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: I'm in marketing. Yeah, I do. And I think it's great.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know I've known Tarek for a really
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: long time. I knew Tarek before I knew Heather, before
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: I started the show. And we both worked at Sotheby's.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, Tarek hung his license there. But so I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: very small world. And I mean, this is proof that
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, Tarek and Christina are. had a very tumultuous divorce.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: And so I just think it's so great that they
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: can both kind of rise above it and.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Do something like this. And it's hopeful to people. Sometimes
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: when people are going through it, I will tell them,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, for 99% of the people, it does
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: get better. And sometimes it can get a lot better.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: And this is one of the cases.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: Better, yes. But like, false hope. This is the exception
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: to the rule. I need everyone to know like this
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: is the exception to the rule. I wish I'm like that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: I wish my ex-husband, my ex-husband could never be in
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: the same room with anybody that I'm going to ever
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: marry or date. That's never going to happen. I've come
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: to terms with that. It's fine. Me on the other hand,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like, are you dating?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: You should date.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: I think this girl would be great for you. My hairdresser,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: she's totally your type. Excuse me, I'm spitting.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: And he's like, this is weird. What are you doing?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: Like, well, I'm like, I'm not in love with you anymore.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: I want you to be happy.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: And you want someone nice around your kids.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: So people who have the wherewithal.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: And I think sometimes what happens is, you know, a woman...
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: you know, in this case, I think she really did
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: see how sweet Heather is as a step parent. And
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: I think that if there was any weirdness before, maybe
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: there never was, but that oftentimes women will come together
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: and they'll do the exchanges and they'll do the stuff
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: because they're like, I like you and I like you
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: that you're nice to my kid. I like, you know.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: A mature woman will see that and get like, I mean,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: not everybody. I mean, it takes two, though. You have
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: to realize so many moving parts. You have to have
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: the husband who's comfortable with it. Right. And the ex-wife,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: and then the new wife that's comfortable with it, and
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: the new husband. Like, there's four strong personalities, and they
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: all are okay with it. This is the exception to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: the rule. I wish it could be like that for everybody.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: You say, does it just be, or does every single,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: this is from your Instagram, every single mom in their
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: 30s now completely understand Brittany shaving her head and the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: tag you sewed with an umbrella? It is funny. Poor
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Brittany's not doing so great now, but it is funny.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: This was when before.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: This is before. Okay, I want to focus on your ass.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: This photo, when you went to stagecoach, so you wore chaps.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: I did.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: With just a bathing suit G-string.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: That is not a G-string. My bikinis actually get tinier
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: than that. That was almost full coverage for me.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: But you went up the crack. Yeah. And I mean,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: how did you come up with this outfit and the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: photo of the sheen of your ass? Now, I mean, listen,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: you are a professional woman. And but now you are
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: this sexy model, really, with your ass out. Like, do
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: you have you have any doubt about posting this? Because
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: I was mesmerized by your butt. I think this is
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: like who took the photo.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: OK, this is a this is a collaborative effort. I mean,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: it's a very it is amazing. Not the photo, but Polly,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: who is on the show, one of my very close friends.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: She's been a model also for her whole fucking life, literally.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Which is so weird because I always thought you're either
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: good at what you're either good behind the camera or
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: in front of the camera.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Polly's great at both.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: And she knows it. She's like, give me the phone.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: I got you. She's like, go over there. Turn over there.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: The lighting.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: And then arch your back. And she's always trying to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: guide me. Polly took this photo.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Fucking amazing.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: And she goes, we got it. She also took a
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: fantastic video of me at Stagecoach. We're front and center
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: with Diplo. And we've got these VIP tickets. We've got,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Now, wait, were you in that booth?
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: We were in like a corral.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: That sitting thing, that corral thing where there was couches
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: and it was like for a vodka, a tequila thing.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: I am so mad that. That I did not lurk
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: over there.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: Why didn't you ever see me in public?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: No, but I saw it after. I had VIP tickets,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: but not VIP artists.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we got artists.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: But listen, if I do it next year, I got
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: to have the artists. I don't care what it costs.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Because there was too much walking and my hip still
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: hurts from it.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: I still have a blister on my foot. I had
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: no idea how much walking. And we had artist passes.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: But just from where you get in, the entrance.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's still so much walking.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I need rollerblades.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: And you don't want to get rid of your cowboy
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: boots because that's the whole look. You can't.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: You've got to wear the boots.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: Well, it's incredible. Well, listen, I'm going to wrap this
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: up and I want you to tell everybody. So you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: are still a realtor. Oh, yes.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: And do we know if the show... Where are you?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: We don't know if the show's coming back or you
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  Speaker 3: can't say or the filming or what.
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  Speaker 4: I wish that I had an answer for you.
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  Speaker 3: I wish that I knew. I felt like they were
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: setting us up for that.
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  Speaker 4: So I think the San Diego office is really, really
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  Speaker 4: hoping that there will be. But from what I've heard
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: from production, as long as there's not enough time in
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: the year or in the day and Jason and Brett
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: are only Two people, you know, and it's mostly Jason
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  Speaker 4: who's coming.
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  Speaker 3: What they should have done is never revealed that they
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: were twins. Then they could have had multiple shows. And
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  Speaker 3: one could just, they could be playing the same person
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: like the way they do with little child actors.
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  Speaker 4: Mary-Kate and Ashley, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they always need to have twins.
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  Speaker 4: So true. I don't know if they will. We don't
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  Speaker 4: know if there's a season four. I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: there possibly could not be a season four. I really
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: am hoping that there is. The San Diego situation, I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: think that from my perspective, what I've learned is Adam DeVillo,
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  Speaker 4: who is our producer, he is very, very, very particular
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  Speaker 4: with who his production crews are. And he wants it
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  Speaker 4: shot a certain way.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: And the lighting a certain way.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: And it's aesthetically so stunning. And he has built a
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: fantastic team that's very, very good at what they do.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: And what they do is they film Sunset half of
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: the year and then we film OC half of the year.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: So- there's no more time in the year to film
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: San Diego. So unless he can get together and rally
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: another phenomenal production company, I don't know.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I always fantasized as a young girl living in
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: my backyard. I said, one day I will have a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: TV in my backyard where I can lay out and
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: lay in the pool and watch TV. And I binged
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: your show from my pool.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Which is so great because you see– I was in
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: the desert at my house in La Quinta, so I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: watched it in my pool, but I got to see
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: the ocean and all the real estate porn and see
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: the drama and have you guys– and I'm having drinks
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: with you by myself. I felt like I was there.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: I also love La Quinta.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. And then I wore my shirt
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: for you, Get Me Behind Gates. Give me– Because I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: think the ultimate is a gated community. I agree. Or
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: a gate around your own property. I agree.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: I want both.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Safety.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: How about both? How about the gate, the community, and
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: the gate in your house?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: So tell everyone where they can follow you to get–
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: because you do funny– besides you showing good real estate,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: you do funny things on your Instagram. Oh, you think
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: it's funny? Yeah.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm just on Instagram. I mean, I have a TikTok.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the name and the handle is,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: but my Instagram is AlexHallOC. Yeah, AlexHallOC.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go right here. AlexHallOC. Thank you so
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: much for coming back.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: That was so fun.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: And you look great.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: You look great.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: And it's great that you could come here.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: I was only a two-hour drive. No biggie.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: I know. I'm going to get you back a little quicker.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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