Latest / Crime and Horror / 3 people found in IMPOSSIBLE places Missing 411 (Part 11)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: People are going missing all over North America under baffling circumstances.
- 0:04Speaker 1: In some cases, people will be looking right at someone,
- 0:07Speaker 1: they'll turn around and turn back and they're gone. Or
- 0:11Speaker 1: you'll have instances where people will go missing and then
- 0:13Speaker 1: turn up again in places that are basically impossible to
- 0:17Speaker 1: get to. One man named David Plaidis who's a former
- 0:20Speaker 1: police detective. When he learned about some of these strange
- 0:23Speaker 1: cases and saw that no one was looking into it,
- 0:26Speaker 1: he began to do the research and he spent tens
- 0:28Speaker 1: of thousands of hours researching thousands of these cases. And
- 0:32Speaker 1: they're so bizarre. As I read through them, I'm taking
- 0:36Speaker 1: note of the really strange cases and highlighting those on
- 0:40Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. But before we get into today's missing
- 0:43Speaker 1: four one one stories, if you're a fan of these strange,
- 0:46Speaker 1: dark and mysterious delivered in story format, then you come
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- 1:04Speaker 1: let's get into today's stories. In nineteen sixty nine, Robert
- 1:20Speaker 1: Winters was a seventy eight year old retired logger living
- 1:23Speaker 1: in Oregon. He was a family man. He loved the outdoors,
- 1:27Speaker 1: and he really loved going hunting with his three sons.
- 1:30Speaker 1: In early October nineteen sixty nine, Robert and his three
- 1:33Speaker 1: sons headed off for their annual hunting trip that they
- 1:36Speaker 1: would do at Sparks Lake. Now, Sparks Lake is an
- 1:39Speaker 1: area that they had been hunting for twenty years. They
- 1:42Speaker 1: know this area inside now. They arrived at Sparks Lake
- 1:45Speaker 1: and they set up their camp right at the base
- 1:47Speaker 1: of this mountain that was a part of the area
- 1:49Speaker 1: that they would be hunting in. And for the first
- 1:51Speaker 1: couple of days everything was going great. On October eighth,
- 1:54Speaker 1: they found out that there was this big snowstorm coming
- 1:56Speaker 1: in later that night. They still wanted to go hunting
- 1:58Speaker 1: that day, so they decided instead of going up into
- 2:01Speaker 1: that mountain and hunting up there, they would stay at
- 2:03Speaker 1: lower elevation around where their camp was. So the four
- 2:06Speaker 1: of them split up and they took up different positions
- 2:09Speaker 1: all around this lake, but they're all in the same
- 2:11Speaker 1: general vicinity, and they all hunt for the day, and
- 2:13Speaker 1: then they all come back to the campsite that night,
- 2:16Speaker 1: except Robert didn't come back, and as it got darker
- 2:19Speaker 1: and the snow started to fall, his sons got really
- 2:22Speaker 1: worried and they went out looking for him, but quickly
- 2:24Speaker 1: saw that we got to get other people involved in
- 2:26Speaker 1: this because the snowstorm's coming in and we don't know
- 2:29Speaker 1: where he is, So they call the sheriff's office. The
- 2:31Speaker 1: Sheriff's department launches this massive search right away, but unfortunately,
- 2:35Speaker 1: over the first twenty four hours, not only did they
- 2:38Speaker 1: not find Robert or any sign of where he was,
- 2:41Speaker 1: but over eighteen inches of snow dumped all over the area.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Because of the snowfall, it made searching the area on
- 2:47Speaker 1: foot really difficult, so they called in a couple helicopters
- 2:50Speaker 1: to scour the area from the air, and it was
- 2:52Speaker 1: at this time that one of the helicopters picked up
- 2:55Speaker 1: tracks at seventy one hundred feet right near the lake,
- 2:58Speaker 1: and the tracks were actually discount and people said, that
- 3:01Speaker 1: can't be Roberts because that would mean he would have
- 3:03Speaker 1: had to go up almost two thousand feet in elevation
- 3:06Speaker 1: when he and his sons had all agreed were not
- 3:09Speaker 1: going to go higher because of the snow, and Robert
- 3:12Speaker 1: was an accomplished outdoorsman that would know in an emergency
- 3:16Speaker 1: survival situation, especially in a cold environment, you don't go uphill.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Temperatures drop as you go uphill, risk of hypothermia increases,
- 3:24Speaker 1: plus you're burning more energy trying to get up a mountain,
- 3:27Speaker 1: So they said that cannot be Robert's tracks. Five days
- 3:31Speaker 1: after Robert went missing, no sign of him has been
- 3:33Speaker 1: found and the search was terminated. Nine months later, a
- 3:37Speaker 1: doctor was on vacation in the same area near Sparks
- 3:40Speaker 1: Lake and he discovered next to a tree up around
- 3:44Speaker 1: that area where those tracks had been found by the helicopter,
- 3:47Speaker 1: at seventy one hundred feet, he found lying against a
- 3:50Speaker 1: tree a rifle, some clothes, a boot, a glove, and
- 3:54Speaker 1: a pair of glasses. The doctor informed the Sheriff's department,
- 3:57Speaker 1: who came out and confirmed that these all belonged to
- 4:00Speaker 1: Robert Winters. But oddly enough, there was no blood anywhere
- 4:04Speaker 1: on the clothes and there were no bone fragments or
- 4:08Speaker 1: any remains anywhere in the area. Because they brought searchers
- 4:11Speaker 1: out and combed that whole area, so there was no
- 4:14Speaker 1: indication that Robert had actually even died. Even stranger was
- 4:18Speaker 1: it looked like the clothes had been removed on purpose.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Everything was stacked neatly next to this tree. The only
- 4:24Speaker 1: other new piece of evidence that we would ever find
- 4:26Speaker 1: about him is a year later, his dentures were found
- 4:29Speaker 1: in that area, So again there's no remains of Robert,
- 4:33Speaker 1: just his various belongings that were found in that area.
- 4:35Speaker 1: The family wanted to move forward with funeral arrangements, but
- 4:39Speaker 1: they needed the corner to sign a death certificate. The
- 4:42Speaker 1: corner refused for over a year, saying there's no sign
- 4:45Speaker 1: he actually died, but eventually the corner said it's also
- 4:49Speaker 1: impossible for him to be alive at this point, so
- 4:51Speaker 1: they were able to get a death certificate even though
- 4:54Speaker 1: there was nothing ever found of him. It seems very
- 4:56Speaker 1: unlikely that Robert, who was a skilled outdoorsman who had
- 4:59Speaker 1: h this particular area for twenty years and had agreed
- 5:04Speaker 1: with his sons that it was a bad idea to
- 5:05Speaker 1: go up in elevation because of the storm, defied all
- 5:09Speaker 1: of that and went almost two thousand feet up in elevation,
- 5:12Speaker 1: removed his clothes neatly and put them on the ground
- 5:15Speaker 1: next to a tree, and then vanished without a trace.
- 5:17Speaker 1: But then, how do we reconcile those tracks that were
- 5:20Speaker 1: seen from the helicopter up near where all of his
- 5:22Speaker 1: belongings were found unless those tracks weren't Roberts. On February nineteenth,
- 5:31Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, doctor Catherine Wong, who was a pediatrician
- 5:34Speaker 1: in San Jose, California. She was forty seven years old.
- 5:37Speaker 1: She and her husband John, along with two relatives and
- 5:41Speaker 1: two of their three kids, drove four hours northeast from
- 5:44Speaker 1: their home in Milpitas, California, to Bear Valley Ski Resort.
- 5:48Speaker 1: The family loved to go skiing any chance they could,
- 5:51Speaker 1: so Doctor Wong was actually a fairly skilled skier. This
- 5:54Speaker 1: would be their first time at Bear Valley Ski Resort,
- 5:57Speaker 1: which is a resort located about thirty miles south of
- 6:00Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe. The Wongs arrived, they start skiing. It's this
- 6:03Speaker 1: beautiful day. At about eleven thirty in the morning, everybody
- 6:06Speaker 1: stops and goes into the lodge for lunch. After lunch,
- 6:09Speaker 1: their kids and the other relatives decide to stay in
- 6:11Speaker 1: the lodge for a little bit longer. So doctor Wong
- 6:14Speaker 1: and her husband John decide to go skiing on their own,
- 6:16Speaker 1: and at some point doctor Wong and John decided to
- 6:20Speaker 1: go down separate trails. John goes down his trail and
- 6:23Speaker 1: doctor Wong would go down her trail, which was not
- 6:25Speaker 1: a difficult trail, it's one she'd been on earlier in
- 6:27Speaker 1: the day, and she doesn't show up at the bottom.
- 6:30Speaker 1: John's down at the bottom, he's waiting for her. After
- 6:32Speaker 1: a little bit of time, he starts to think, Okay,
- 6:35Speaker 1: you know, maybe she got hurt. Maybe she'd fell down.
- 6:37Speaker 1: I'm not sure. He starts making his way over and
- 6:39Speaker 1: looking up the trail. He can't see anything. There's no
- 6:41Speaker 1: indication that someone's been hurt, and he starts looking for
- 6:44Speaker 1: another twenty thirty minutes, can't find her. Ski patrol goes
- 6:47Speaker 1: up and they're looking for tracks coming off of the trail,
- 6:50Speaker 1: a sign that maybe someone fell off and went into
- 6:53Speaker 1: the woods, But there's no tracks anywhere of somebody leaving
- 6:56Speaker 1: the trail. So the ski patrol gets in touch with
- 6:58Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office, who come out and launch an absolutely
- 7:01Speaker 1: massive search, but by the end of the day there
- 7:03Speaker 1: was no sign of doctor Wong, and even more strangely,
- 7:06Speaker 1: they had searched all seventy five trails on Bear Valley
- 7:10Speaker 1: Ski Resort, and there was not one indication that someone
- 7:12Speaker 1: had skied off of any of the trails or even
- 7:15Speaker 1: walked off any of the trails. The search continued for
- 7:18Speaker 1: another two days, no sign of doctor Wong. They began
- 7:21Speaker 1: reviewing all of the security footage in any instance where
- 7:24Speaker 1: she was on camera. There seemed to be nothing wrong.
- 7:26Speaker 1: At the end of that second day, the weather got
- 7:29Speaker 1: much worse. Temperatures dropped and this huge snowstorm rolled in,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and the folks in charge of the search decided it
- 7:35Speaker 1: was too dangerous to continue. Plus, at this point they
- 7:38Speaker 1: believed that it was impossible for doctor Wong to even
- 7:41Speaker 1: still be alive. At this point, they told the family
- 7:43Speaker 1: that they are considering doctor Wong deceased, and they terminated
- 7:46Speaker 1: the search. It was around this time that newspapers and
- 7:49Speaker 1: people in the area began to speculate that this was
- 7:52Speaker 1: not an accident, that either doctor Wong willingly decided to
- 7:56Speaker 1: vanish or foul play was involved. There was no proof
- 7:59Speaker 1: of either one, but it just seemed so bizarre that
- 8:01Speaker 1: there was this massive search and there was just no
- 8:03Speaker 1: sign of her anywhere, no tracks, no anything. It just
- 8:06Speaker 1: felt like something's amiss here. We just don't know what
- 8:08Speaker 1: it is. Her husband, John ended up taking a lie
- 8:11Speaker 1: detector test, which she passed, and investigators began digging into
- 8:15Speaker 1: their marriage a bit to see if there was some
- 8:16Speaker 1: underlying problems, and it looked for all the world like
- 8:19Speaker 1: it was twenty years of a very stable, healthy, happy relationship.
- 8:23Speaker 1: There was no sign that doctor Wong would be looking
- 8:26Speaker 1: to escape her life and run off with someone else.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Four months after she went missing, her remains and ski
- 8:32Speaker 1: equipment were found about a half mile south of the
- 8:34Speaker 1: ski resort in this deep ravine heavily forested, well off
- 8:38Speaker 1: any marked trail. Bone fragments and remains were scattered over
- 8:42Speaker 1: a quarter mile trail along this ravine. This area had
- 8:46Speaker 1: not been previously searched because when they initially launched this
- 8:49Speaker 1: search for her, this area was so steep and so
- 8:52Speaker 1: difficult to get to. Plus there was eight foot snow
- 8:56Speaker 1: drifts from the ski resort all the way to that area,
- 8:58Speaker 1: but they decided it would have been imp possible for
- 9:00Speaker 1: her to get there. So how did she end up
- 9:03Speaker 1: in this impossible area and why weren't there any tracks
- 9:06Speaker 1: leaving the mountain. Some say the scarcity and dispersal of
- 9:10Speaker 1: her bones over that quarter mile track indicates that after
- 9:14Speaker 1: she had been deceased, animals had kind of ravaged her remains.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Others say that an animal is responsible for this attack
- 9:21Speaker 1: and that's why her remains are scattered over a quarter
- 9:23Speaker 1: mile track in this impossible area. But what kind of
- 9:26Speaker 1: an animal is able to sneak up and grab a
- 9:29Speaker 1: person off of a very populated ski resort and drag
- 9:33Speaker 1: them this half mile away without leaving any tracks or
- 9:35Speaker 1: raising any suspicion. In nineteen ninety one, Corey Fay was
- 9:42Speaker 1: a seventeen year old high school student in Beaverton, Oregon.
- 9:45Speaker 1: On November twenty third, nineteen ninety one, Corey and two
- 9:48Speaker 1: of his friends decided to go elk hunting. Corey was
- 9:51Speaker 1: not an avid hunter, but he went hunting enough that
- 9:53Speaker 1: he was competent, and he had taken survival training and
- 9:56Speaker 1: was always very well equipped anytime he went out on
- 9:59Speaker 1: a hunt. Three of them load up in a truck.
- 10:01Speaker 1: They make their way out to this hunting site, and
- 10:03Speaker 1: when they get there, they decide to split up and
- 10:05Speaker 1: meet back up at the truck At six thirty that night.
- 10:08Speaker 1: That night, at six thirty, the other two hunters came
- 10:11Speaker 1: back to the truck, but not Corey. He was nowhere
- 10:13Speaker 1: to be found. The other two hunters briefly went out
- 10:16Speaker 1: looking for Corey and they couldn't find him. So they
- 10:18Speaker 1: called the Sheriff's apartment, who comes out, and they launched
- 10:21Speaker 1: this absolutely epic search. They had helicopters, they had horse teams,
- 10:26Speaker 1: they had two hundred and fifty ground searchers. They had
- 10:29Speaker 1: seven of the world's best scent sniffing dogs in the
- 10:32Speaker 1: whole world are a part of this search. In over
- 10:35Speaker 1: ten days, that group covered twelve square miles where Corey
- 10:39Speaker 1: would have been. Towards the end of this ten day period,
- 10:41Speaker 1: when this all star search team has come up with nothing,
- 10:44Speaker 1: people began to wonder if the other two hunters had
- 10:47Speaker 1: accidentally shot and killed Corey and maybe buried him. But
- 10:50Speaker 1: those search dogs never found a gravesite. The official search
- 10:54Speaker 1: was called off on December first, but many volunteers stayed
- 10:57Speaker 1: out for weeks and weeks combing the area. Go well
- 11:00Speaker 1: beyond the bounds of that initial twelve mile area they searched,
- 11:04Speaker 1: and nothing was ever found. The Sheriff's department that was
- 11:07Speaker 1: in charge of the search was so perplexed by the
- 11:10Speaker 1: fact that this amazing team of searchers couldn't find anything
- 11:14Speaker 1: that they ended up contacting the FBI, which indicates they
- 11:17Speaker 1: were suspecting foul play because that's the only reason the
- 11:21Speaker 1: FBI would get involved. But almost nothing happened in Corey's
- 11:24Speaker 1: case for nearly a year. In September of nineteen ninety two,
- 11:27Speaker 1: two hunters were hunting about ten miles away from where
- 11:30Speaker 1: Corey had gone missing, and they discover a rifle, a backpack,
- 11:33Speaker 1: and a jacket. They don't know whose it is, so
- 11:35Speaker 1: they turn it over to the sheriff's department. The Sheriff's
- 11:37Speaker 1: department comes out and they're able to confirm that they
- 11:39Speaker 1: all belonged to Corey Fay. A new search was ordered
- 11:43Speaker 1: right around that area where his belongings were found, and
- 11:46Speaker 1: all these searchers came out and did a grid search,
- 11:49Speaker 1: and all they could find were a couple of bone
- 11:51Speaker 1: fragments and his tooth. No large phones, no ribcage, no skull, nothing.
- 11:56Speaker 1: And interestingly, they also never found his pants or his boots.
- 12:00Speaker 1: But now that they had some of his remains, the
- 12:02Speaker 1: sheriff's department was looking at where they were found and
- 12:06Speaker 1: looking at the time of the year when he had
- 12:08Speaker 1: gone missing, and they realized that to go from where
- 12:11Speaker 1: he went missing to ten miles away, three thousand feet
- 12:14Speaker 1: up in elevation, to where some of his remains were found,
- 12:17Speaker 1: he would have been in waste deep snow for over
- 12:20Speaker 1: five miles. People were skeptical about him making this trek
- 12:24Speaker 1: because it didn't make sense, but his family in particular,
- 12:27Speaker 1: really didn't believe it. Corey's grandparents said in an interview
- 12:30Speaker 1: that Corey had taken these survival courses that he would
- 12:33Speaker 1: talk about all the time, and one of the main
- 12:36Speaker 1: things they teach you is in a survival situation, when
- 12:39Speaker 1: you're on a mountain, in particular, when it's cold, you
- 12:42Speaker 1: never go up. If you go up in elevation, temperatures
- 12:47Speaker 1: will drop, the risk of hypothermia increases. So for him
- 12:50Speaker 1: to have wound up ten miles away and three thousand
- 12:53Speaker 1: feet up in elevation is basically doing the opposite of
- 12:57Speaker 1: what he was trained to do. And his grandparents said
- 12:59Speaker 1: that Corey was incredibly level headed. There's no reason that
- 13:03Speaker 1: in a real survival situation that he would have just
- 13:06Speaker 1: thrown that out the window. He would have relied on
- 13:08Speaker 1: his training. So the million dollar question is why are
- 13:12Speaker 1: his belongings in bone fragments ten miles away and three
- 13:15Speaker 1: thousand feet up in elevation. Did he defy his training
- 13:18Speaker 1: and go there on his own or did an animal
- 13:20Speaker 1: attack him and drag him there? But if it's the latter,
- 13:23Speaker 1: what kind of animal drags a seventeen year old his
- 13:26Speaker 1: rifle and his backpack ten miles up, three thousand feet
- 13:31Speaker 1: of elevation in over six feet of stone? And where
- 13:34Speaker 1: is the rest of him? All we ever found were
- 13:36Speaker 1: a couple of bone fragments and a tooth. So, like
- 13:39Speaker 1: all of these Missing four one one cases, were left
- 13:42Speaker 1: with a lot of unanswered questions, because that's the whole
- 13:44Speaker 1: deal with Missing four one one. These are baffling, but
- 13:47Speaker 1: that doesn't stop us from speculating about what could be happening.
- 13:51Speaker 1: And not only will I respond to the early commenters,
- 13:53Speaker 1: I'll also pin the best theory at the top of
- 13:55Speaker 1: the comments section. If you want to learn more about
- 13:58Speaker 1: Missing four to one one, please check out David Palyatus's
- 14:00Speaker 1: book series called Missing four one one. I provided a
- 14:03Speaker 1: link in the description below where you can purchase those books. Also,
- 14:06Speaker 1: David Poliitis has a YouTube channel that I provided in
- 14:09Speaker 1: the description below as well. Go over there, subscribe and
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