Latest / After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports / #137 - Reese Marin: Formula Drift Judge
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- 0:00What's going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode
- 0:02of the After Hours podcast. On today's episode we have Reece
- 0:05Marin local club, loose legend and formula drift judge.
- 0:11Reece Marin has been a long time friend of mine pretty much since
- 0:13I got into drifting and he's already been on this podcast
- 0:16once. So if you want to hear a little
- 0:17bit of his back story, I would go check that episode out.
- 0:20We we really just hung out on this episode and just
- 0:24bullshitted. Reece was picking up his car.
- 0:25He just got aligned here and some other work done.
- 0:28So we we got into some some interesting topics this time
- 0:33around. We were talking about kids at
- 0:34one point and how you can drift and have a family and this and
- 0:38that. It was a definitely a different
- 0:41route we went but very a very fun episode.
- 0:44Reece is an awesome guy. So thanks for coming out guys.
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- 8:00What? So you're the one that's going
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- 8:05They look good guys. Reese Marin is here for a
- 8:07podcast number. What is it?
- 8:10Yeah, welcome everybody to the faction after.
- 8:12I was going to try to steal the intro.
- 8:14I was getting so distracted by this speed star wheel catalog
- 8:17over there. But yeah, welcome to faction
- 8:19after hours. We're here to bring another
- 8:20episode. We got Reese Marin on the
- 8:21podcast The the the the live audience ready.
- 8:23Why don't we get another one? Can we get?
- 8:26Thank you. God forbid I do the intro I.
- 8:29Only have a few things in this world.
- 8:31Frankie every episode, 130 something times I've done.
- 8:35That oh, so that's like. From day one.
- 8:37OK, so you want to keep doing that?
- 8:38Yeah. Well, thanks for coming on,
- 8:39Reese. Dude, it's second time here.
- 8:41Yeah, yeah, the first the. First time you were on here
- 8:44pretty early. And to be honest, that first
- 8:47podcast was a really good podcast because you we got we
- 8:51learned a lot of shit about you like your whole back story.
- 8:53Dude, I didn't know St. Drifting.
- 8:55Yeah, yeah. All that shit.
- 8:56I actually, yeah, that was a pretty pivotal podcast because
- 8:59now I there's like so. Much more like, you know,
- 9:02because there's only so much you can think about.
- 9:03Like on the way home, I was like, there's a story.
- 9:07That story. That's going to happen this time
- 9:08too. Well, thanks for coming on.
- 9:10This place is a lot more different, obviously and.
- 9:12Yeah. This is the we was just shooting
- 9:14the shit because what were we talking about?
- 9:15Oh, you wanted to talk about it on the podcast?
- 9:19Grind the movie. Yeah, so you.
- 9:21Watching you were watching. I was watching it the other day.
- 9:23I was watching it the other day and I was like, how come there's
- 9:25not a drifting movie like Grind? They're kind of.
- 9:30Mad. What are you going to say?
- 9:33There's that bullshit movie. Right.
- 9:35Oh, wait, no. That fake Fast and the Furious
- 9:38movie. Like Tokyo Drift?
- 9:40No, that's not Malcolm. Can I get some volume in my
- 9:43headphones or? Thank you.
- 9:45Thank you. Turn my mic on.
- 9:46Turn my mic on. Yeah.
- 9:47Thank you. Thank you man.
- 9:48BRV. But in in grind, that's one of
- 9:51the thank you Malcolm. By the way, that movie is one of
- 9:55the maybe 4 movies where I could play it in my head sitting down.
- 9:58You know what I mean? Like the scene where you it
- 10:01opens up. He's fucking skating through the
- 10:03high school and shit. Right.
- 10:06Weird details in that movie. I remember the punch buggy shit
- 10:09where they punched. What did they call it?
- 10:11Sluts. Slug bug.
- 10:13Slug bug, yeah. Dude.
- 10:15Quiz me on anything on. Slug.
- 10:17Bug No quiz me on anything on that movie.
- 10:21I fucking that killer soundtrack.
- 10:23Too. I like it because of the bro
- 10:24vibes and I'm like anytime you go on a drifting trip ending and
- 10:28anytime that's how it was. Yeah, well, at.
- 10:31Least how it used to be. I don't.
- 10:32I mean, I'm assuming still it is.
- 10:33It is when you're with the right group of people, like you're
- 10:35with your friends and like something as OK.
- 10:39There's a scene in that movie where they fucking literally
- 10:42have to scheme for the food because they're buddy ran.
- 10:45Oh yeah, when they get into the. They go into the garbage can,
- 10:48get a receipt, they go up and they're like, hey, yeah, I
- 10:51didn't get any of this. Do you think anybody ever tried
- 10:53that someone? Yeah, 100%. 100%.
- 10:56That's a good idea. It's got the the the the
- 10:58thoughts got to come from somewhere like the scene.
- 11:00Now let me take a wild guess. Malcolm never saw this movie.
- 11:05Malcolm Skate like no, it's a skateboarding movie for those of
- 11:08you who don't know this. Movie.
- 11:09Well, you know what I mean, We brought up.
- 11:10Can we play the trailer would be get in trouble.
- 11:12For yes, we will get in trouble for that.
- 11:14Dude, they watch. Trailers.
- 11:15Are broken all the time. He's a.
- 11:16Fucking. Sophie, it's more of a bro.
- 11:19It's more of a bro movie than a skate movie.
- 11:21Yeah, it's okay. So if I had to summarize it up,
- 11:23it's like four friends, three friends that go that are very
- 11:28different. Obviously it's like Rd.
- 11:29Trip, but everybody skateboards. Literally like road trip, but
- 11:32you add skateboards and the the conflicts are not really that
- 11:36high. They don't really run into
- 11:39anything bad. Yeah, ever.
- 11:41It's the it's the best movie. It's great.
- 11:44The the plot one of my favorite the.
- 11:45Plot is just yeah, A-Z. You know every answer to the
- 11:49questions that show up. You know the soundtrack is
- 11:53sweet, Impeccable. Sweet Lou, dude.
- 11:56So when I went to club, when I went to club loose and you guys
- 11:59told me about somebody named Sweet Lou there.
- 12:04That's. Immediately what I thought it
- 12:05was, I was looking around looking for some dude with
- 12:07fucking. Little different, but a little.
- 12:09Different He's the one who failed me for.
- 12:10That is just as sweet. Yeah, as I'm saying as.
- 12:13You're just as sweet. He failed me.
- 12:15He's a really nice guy. Sorry bud.
- 12:17Look man, I'm sorry, but. With his mustache like that.
- 12:22Mustache that was actually. Kind of a good impression and
- 12:24you only met him like. One time I don't know what his
- 12:26voice sounds like at all. And weird.
- 12:28He's awesome. This is going to fucking get to
- 12:29him and he's going to be like a fucking asshole.
- 12:32But mustache. And not for nothing, he had his,
- 12:35like, no shirt on, so he had a little bit of a belly, Yeah.
- 12:38God damn, he had his dad bog going, dude.
- 12:40Yeah, he it demands authority. I did just follow him on it.
- 12:45I saw him on Instagram so I clicked follow and I was like
- 12:48damn. Like I never knew who this was.
- 12:52Like I never, I don't know if we've ever met.
- 12:53We should have him on the podcast.
- 12:55We I'm trying, I've been trying for a couple.
- 12:56Years. I think he's a Family Guy.
- 12:58It's hard to get when you have. He's a dad now.
- 13:01Yeah, when you have a spawn like you're not going to.
- 13:03Yeah, exactly. That's what it was.
- 13:04That's. The truth, boys.
- 13:06Speaking of what, you don't have any hell?
- 13:07No. So you be you be with the shits.
- 13:09That's why we be outside. Bro you were in Dubai recently?
- 13:13What the fuck was that? Yeah.
- 13:14Could we talk about that? Are we allowed to talk about
- 13:16that? Yeah.
- 13:16It's about is a Prince going to come out and like.
- 13:18I I mean, that'd be rad. Can you imagine?
- 13:21Whoa, whoa, hey. Hey, hold on.
- 13:23We somebody's coming in here right now.
- 13:24The Prince what? Well, how much more of a flex it
- 13:27could be if I'm at an event and like the everything stops
- 13:30because like yo, what's up dude? And he comes out all.
- 13:33Did that happen? No.
- 13:34No, I'm just saying if it happened here, I was like, what
- 13:37did happen? What did happen, right is where
- 13:39the judges All right. Well, so a little context.
- 13:42I went to Dubai because I went to go be a judge for one of the
- 13:45drifting events that they were having over there at this huge
- 13:49festival thing called Liwa. And it's like, dude, it was like
- 13:5424 hours a day. Everyone was just like on those
- 13:56like dune buggy things. Oh, petrols.
- 14:00Yeah, all day long. They didn't fire, bro.
- 14:03I was asleep in the tent at like 5.
- 14:06AMI woke up to take a piss and all you heard was.
- 14:11What are they doing? Just jumping them and.
- 14:13Just they're just in a big, you're just in a huge sand pit.
- 14:16It's it's hard to even put into words you.
- 14:18Can look at your visuals look Forza brothers.
- 14:21Instagram Aliwa 2005, 2005. This is Forza Horizon, because
- 14:27when I was watching your stories, that's what I pictured,
- 14:30you know, like that, that meeting the the hub, not that
- 14:33kind of hub. I.
- 14:34Actually never played Horizon. You would probably hate it
- 14:37actually. Yeah, that's why I didn't play
- 14:38it, Yeah. But that, well, Reese, there I
- 14:40was just picturing y'all in the desert and just everything was
- 14:43just like, this is Forza Horizon.
- 14:46We're here on the desert. When did you fucking helicopter
- 14:49flying over? When was?
- 14:50It people are just doing stuff. This was this was what, like
- 14:57December 20th? Oh, so it was recent?
- 14:59Yeah, yeah, it was like a month and 1/2.
- 15:01Ago OH. You fucking gave up social.
- 15:04Media, I also just never know anything, so there's that too.
- 15:06But yeah, I did for January. How was your January challenge?
- 15:09We shouldn't go off on this right now, but I.
- 15:12It was good look bad that. Looked great.
- 15:14You do look good. Yeah, he gave up junk food for
- 15:18junk. Food.
- 15:19And now it was February. The bag of chips.
- 15:22I had like a few of them in the cabinet and like.
- 15:25Relapsed straight away. I put them back.
- 15:27I didn't I could I could see the difference in how I'm feeling.
- 15:31That's good. Yeah.
- 15:33Yeah, me too. Junk food is so fucking good.
- 15:35I gave up Instagram and I was like, yeah, I don't really.
- 15:37We know how that went. You were probably happy as hell.
- 15:39Yeah, this is it. This is.
- 15:41I can't read a damn word on. This I don't know how is that.
- 15:44That's how to see the dudes right there.
- 15:45Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.
- 15:49Yo did you see the clip where there was two LSS that were
- 15:52together? No, what the fuck?
- 15:55Yeah, yeah, yeah. See this is some hill Malcolm.
- 15:59This is the shit that we do in BMNG bro.
- 16:02Bro this is all they were doing all day the Tesla.
- 16:05Is that Tesla, Dr. Ribbian or I? I'm, I was there for like I was
- 16:09there for like 4-4 days, five days and every day.
- 16:12That's all. That's what was going on.
- 16:14So what is the drifting? So aside from of that, right,
- 16:19'cause you're inside of this huge sand dune thing.
- 16:22Is that a picture right there on the left?
- 16:25Yeah. Oh.
- 16:26And in the middle and in the. Middle what happens picture.
- 16:29And in the middle of all of that, dude, there's drifting
- 16:31going on. There's also a circus.
- 16:33There's like go karts. There's.
- 16:35A circus or a circuit? No circus with a S.
- 16:39Yeah, like there's a bunch of or a carnival or something, I don't
- 16:41know. There's a lot going on dude,
- 16:42like. Yeah, what the fuck?
- 16:45This is cool. There's there's a lot of diving
- 16:49scene. It goes on.
- 16:50For a month vehicle. It goes on for a whole month.
- 16:53A month. A month bro.
- 16:55What? That's where all the fucking
- 16:56global warming's coming from, so.
- 16:58They got money over there. I don't know what they got, but
- 17:00they got a lot of it. They got a lot of time.
- 17:03I think it's Duran's or I don't know what it is, but.
- 17:07A. What is that?
- 17:08The currency. I don't know, I just, I pulled
- 17:09that one out of my ass, OK? I was wondering I I don't know
- 17:13if I've ever so. Did you have to judge this drift
- 17:15company? Is there any footage of this I.
- 17:17Don't know. Yeah, I guess we could go to the
- 17:19drift thing. It's the boring stuff.
- 17:20They, they, they could care less.
- 17:22I was like, oh, there it is. There's a little clip.
- 17:24Yeah, there's Here's a clip. Welcome to Forza Horizon.
- 17:29This is literally what I'm picturing right now the the the
- 17:32voice over. So yeah, I went out there.
- 17:34I had a judge with one of the judges from Drift Spain and then
- 17:38one of the other judges from Drift Portugal and then I think
- 17:43like Jake, Jack Shanahan came out, Kieran came out from
- 17:46Ireland or like another competition that was going on
- 17:49like the week after or a different day than us.
- 17:53So it was good. It was a big festival.
- 17:55It was like a one of them was EDC European Drift Championship.
- 18:01Oh, I was like, OK, is this? Yeah.
- 18:05So yeah, it was cool. It was out there.
- 18:07It was comp. It was it was in a big.
- 18:09I feel like this this we're watching right now is a
- 18:10takeover. Yeah, that's that's a different
- 18:13portion. Oh, they're just showing you
- 18:14different. They utilize the space for.
- 18:16Oh, they call it look. They call it freestyle drifting.
- 18:19Yeah, I don't know what that. I think that's their way of
- 18:21saying takeover. I mean, maybe that's what it yo.
- 18:24They did it right though. Yeah.
- 18:26That, yeah, nobody. I don't see anybody getting.
- 18:28Like yo look at. The back of a car there.
- 18:30Yeah, it was wild. There's there's a drift there.
- 18:32Spiritual drift event. There it is.
- 18:34Yeah. It's the wall.
- 18:36I mean, it's the New Jersey racially park.
- 18:38Yeah, it it definitely gave that type of vibe, Yeah.
- 18:41When I was there. So you knew what to do already?
- 18:43Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 18:44What kind of car did they have you piloting over?
- 18:47There no, no no no. I just judging.
- 18:49I know you got to head definitely.
- 18:50No, no, no. I got the driving Dubai but not
- 18:53there. I got to drive at this place
- 18:55called Drift Home and they let me RIP G37 and E36 and like
- 19:01right off the RIP and I posted those I posted up on on
- 19:04Instagram. OK, so those might have been the
- 19:05clips. Yeah, the clips where I was
- 19:06like, yeah, with the the meta glasses.
- 19:09Yeah, the meta glasses for the. One you fuck with them.
- 19:11Wait, what is that? Yeah, the glasses that recorded.
- 19:14Yeah, yeah, I see. All of the yeah, last time I saw
- 19:16them. You've been using them for
- 19:17fucking. Nice, nice, I mean.
- 19:21I'm so out of it I don't get. The joke?
- 19:25Dude, I feel like that was more of your speed back then.
- 19:27There was a. What but?
- 19:29Go. Go for.
- 19:30Filming. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:32That's the whole. Oh, for having sex, I get it.
- 19:34You're filming while you have glasses.
- 19:36On all working on the. Car 3 minutes.
- 19:37At a time. Yeah, 3 minutes.
- 19:39I'll get her done in 33 minutes, don't you worry.
- 19:41Maybe a few times, dude. Fucking that's not much.
- 19:44That's a lot that's got the world.
- 19:46Yeah, but all, all the mountain footage is, is pretty much on
- 19:49that dude. That's kind of cool.
- 19:50And the it's literally your eyes.
- 19:52So like, you know, if you're, I'm looking around.
- 19:55Before I was just putting my phone like like in my huh?
- 19:59No, you're not. Yeah.
- 20:00No, you're not. No, you're not.
- 20:02Yeah. Oh no, that's good to.
- 20:04Swear to God I was just like, let me just throw it in there
- 20:06real quick. So it was like right in front of
- 20:08your. Mouth.
- 20:09What do you think it was? Like Reese is just using his
- 20:11lips to like. No, because you know how like
- 20:13when you put that, when you put some of the helmets on, it's
- 20:14like really tight. Yeah.
- 20:16So like I kind of wedged it in. I'm like, oh, it fits right
- 20:18here. So I like covered it up and I
- 20:21did that for like, I don't know, a couple months and I'm like,
- 20:23I'm just going to get my glasses.
- 20:26Then I got the meta glasses and I was good.
- 20:27I don't know how you but but no, you're literally saying, but did
- 20:30you not like the footage? Like I bet you can't even tell
- 20:32the footage. Hold on.
- 20:33Let me see. Hold on.
- 20:35Yeah, It would be like this. Yeah.
- 20:38I don't like this at all. You can't drive it.
- 20:40Try it. Try it.
- 20:41It looks weird. It looks like you're.
- 20:43Yeah, but you got a helmet on you right here.
- 20:44Yeah, you could do it. I guess I don't know why
- 20:49nobody's ever. I'm not saying do it now, I'm
- 20:51now just go get the meta glasses.
- 20:53Yeah, I see. Are those like the Ray Ban
- 20:56looking things? Yeah, okay.
- 20:58Yeah, a lot of Drifters got them.
- 21:00Now what I like. About it is if you stream or
- 21:02whatever I think it can stream, can just stream.
- 21:07Yeah, I think for IG, for IG and.
- 21:10So you're getting direct radiation straight to your
- 21:12brain? Yeah, all the.
- 21:13Time. I don't know how that works.
- 21:15How can? You play something.
- 21:16We're all going to get cancer. So how do you you're recording
- 21:18when you're recording? It doesn't.
- 21:19No, no. But like, let's say you're
- 21:20playing music. How do you, are there speakers
- 21:22in it or something? Yeah.
- 21:23Yeah, OK. Wait, where are the speakers?
- 21:25Yeah, they're in the. Like the frame?
- 21:28Yeah. Whoa.
- 21:29So I'm just sitting around you like I'll have it on.
- 21:31Yeah, I'll have it on like, as you know, on as in like it's
- 21:35waiting for a command. And then if I'm just like on the
- 21:38line waiting to go and they're like, all right, go.
- 21:40I'm like, hey Mehta, start recording and then it records.
- 21:43That's it. And then when it's done
- 21:44recording, I'm like, head him, Hey Mehta, stop recording and it
- 21:47stops recording. What do you do when you when you
- 21:50fall off the mountain? You fuck, fuck Mehta, stop
- 21:53recording. Fuck.
- 21:55He's fucking upside down and shit.
- 21:56I feel like Mehta would just keep on talking like.
- 21:58What did you say? We did not understand your
- 22:00command like and you. Just kind of feel like I want
- 22:03those real bad. Yeah, I think you should get
- 22:05them. Honestly, at this point, I feel
- 22:08like the next version of them or is going to be Jarvis is going,
- 22:13I don't know, it's going to be that much better.
- 22:15Yeah. So like, no, no, no.
- 22:17I mean, they're cheap now, right?
- 22:18They're cheap now, right? They're 2. 100 something 300
- 22:20bucks. That's crazy, I get them with
- 22:22transitional lenses so it's like it was I think it was 4 when?
- 22:27I I would look so fucking cool with those.
- 22:29On right now. I'm.
- 22:30Just the next version is going to be your eyeball, so I don't
- 22:33know if you want to wait for the update.
- 22:34I think the next version is going to have something in it.
- 22:38I want it to be AR where it's like like it's.
- 22:42Augment that's augmented reality, so it's shit's like
- 22:45yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I'm picturing like I'm.
- 22:47Pretty much I'm trying to be like the Super Saiyan.
- 22:49Yes, yes. That's exactly what I thought
- 22:51that it did. So you would like to be the
- 22:53Terminator or something like? No, no.
- 22:55I'd rather be Vegeta. Yeah, but that's, that's a,
- 22:57that's a natural ability. No, it's not they.
- 23:00Have a scale to get a scudder. That shows you how much of A
- 23:03nerd I am. Yeah, it's.
- 23:05A scudder, but it doesn't. Display anything in the lens,
- 23:08right? Like, I can't be like, hey,
- 23:09Jarvis, what's the weather? On the bed of glasses right now,
- 23:13Yeah. No, no, no.
- 23:14OK. God damn.
- 23:14Oh no. If it was like that, I'd be
- 23:15geeking. That would be so.
- 23:17Cool, like a heads up. I'm down.
- 23:18That's what I think is going to be next.
- 23:21I think I think so. 'Cause when I, when I play on
- 23:24Aceto with the Oculus, that's I'm some days I'm like, this is
- 23:29really fucking wild that I get to do this.
- 23:32Yeah, not as of recently now though.
- 23:34The fucking I want to drive my real car.
- 23:37It's so cold and fucking sad. Well, I mean, I was going to
- 23:41until I until I broke the rats up.
- 23:46Is that what you got done? No.
- 23:48No, I brought it here so I can have an alignment done because I
- 23:51got those wheels on it and I was like, all right, let me go get
- 23:54here, get it all done up and a couple other things.
- 23:57And then I ended up like taking it off the trailer.
- 23:59The trailer's ramp came off and then I slammed the rat support
- 24:02and I broke it. You're like the whole piece,
- 24:05bro. And I'm like.
- 24:07I thought it was like an under panel or something and.
- 24:10Then I looked again, I'm like, oh shit, yeah.
- 24:13And it's like 300 bucks or something.
- 24:15So it's. The fact that you can get it is
- 24:18pretty pretty. Good.
- 24:19Are those guys going to get it for you?
- 24:21Yeah, yeah, yeah. They hit me up and they're like,
- 24:23yeah, just let me know. And then I have to set up, you
- 24:25know, want to set it out and. Stuff and these guys.
- 24:27What was the name of these guys? Cool, SAC City.
- 24:29I know SAC. SAC City SAC City, SAC.
- 24:32City out of parts. They all have all the VQS and
- 24:34stuff like that. They sponsor one of the guys who
- 24:36are in in FD. It's been FD.
- 24:39How's that? How's that going They?
- 24:40Got Oh yeah, Yeah. By the way, you're a judge for
- 24:42FDA. Yeah.
- 24:44Because, like, yeah. Well, the last time I was here,
- 24:46I was like, oh, you know, it'd be kind of cool to become a
- 24:48former Drift judge. Yeah, it haven't.
- 24:50No, you, you had something in there.
- 24:52I had no idea. I had no idea.
- 24:54I didn't. I really didn't have any idea.
- 24:56And I don't even think it was even a thing until like, I
- 24:59walked up to Ryan Sage at the the banquet and I was like, yo,
- 25:06like, we should make this happen.
- 25:07Yeah. I think that's when it really
- 25:08was like, oh, are you for real? Damn.
- 25:10So that was way after me coming here and talking about it.
- 25:16He manifested. It.
- 25:16I know. Seriously.
- 25:18Yeah, I believe in that shit. Yeah.
- 25:19Well, it works apparently. So yeah, definitely keep doing
- 25:22what you're doing that. That's amazing.
- 25:25Yeah, it's rad. It's it's it's cool.
- 25:26It's definitely, it's different from being like now like an
- 25:30official. Yeah.
- 25:32I mean, that's like about as as official as our sport kind of
- 25:36gets. Yeah, it is.
- 25:36You officiate the official. Thing yeah for the for that type
- 25:42of driving yeah yeah like I I definitely been a little bit
- 25:45more vocal saying like there's a there's professional competition
- 25:49drifting but there's also like professional driving that's not.
- 25:53I'm going to quote a breeze on this because when we did the
- 25:55Gambler, the Casino Royale thing, you had a lot of fun and
- 26:01you like the 235 thing versus the unlimited thing.
- 26:05Yeah. I think I had the slowest car
- 26:07there. I was pushing maybe 2:40 to the
- 26:12wheels. If not the slowest, suck the
- 26:16slowest. Wasn't there like KA or
- 26:18something? Yeah.
- 26:19Because because there. Was AKA car there that white?
- 26:22Yeah, he got you. Beat there and that guy's good
- 26:24as hell I heard. He almost I had to.
- 26:26Go against Mike Nab. Mike Nab slaughtered me.
- 26:29I was like, yeah, what am I going to do?
- 26:32Did he buy? Didn't he buy the overs the
- 26:34other week? Yeah, Hell yeah.
- 26:35Frankie Beans just showed up. I ran into him out.
- 26:38He was like, I want to show you this tag.
- 26:40Let me know if this looks familiar to you.
- 26:42I'm like, I don't want to sound smart here, but I think that's
- 26:47an origin tag and we got those. Let me ask Malcolm.
- 26:51Yeah, no, he got them. I mean, he only he only owns the
- 26:54track Reese. So like, I mean, you know that
- 26:57that's a pretty solid guy to lose to, I think.
- 26:59Yeah, his, his one Jay-Z or whatever was in it.
- 27:02Like kicked my ass. I was like, damn, all right,
- 27:04that was a fun. Time if you.
- 27:05Lost a flag that was so fun and I had no, I was like, there's no
- 27:08way I'm I can maybe get past one person, you know?
- 27:12And then I was like, after that you're just you look who's
- 27:15there. Everyone showed up with like,
- 27:17not, not the stuff, you know what I mean?
- 27:19Like I'm like, God, where's this VA coming from, bro?
- 27:23I was like, but I get it. It was it wasn't a serious
- 27:26thing. So it was just cool to go out
- 27:28there and just kind of show people that you can just thrash
- 27:30and it doesn't. Matter you were.
- 27:31You've been trying to set up a drift event like that for a
- 27:34while. Yeah, it's just easier now to
- 27:36just go to them, yeah. He he always would call me and
- 27:40be like, I'm like, why would I do like a street series?
- 27:42You know, like it's and it's to gauge like I don't like the wild
- 27:46grippy like and it's I know it's ironic because like I judge
- 27:49formerly. Drift, I was about to say that's
- 27:51like what they do. There is is literally pioneer
- 27:54that grip sheet and then it trickles down to us.
- 27:56But it's a job. US plebs.
- 27:57Yeah, it's a job. But it is cool that the FD judge
- 28:03drifts. Yeah, is.
- 28:05I don't know. It hope so.
- 28:06Now, I don't know if I'm Speaking of like I don't.
- 28:08Do the other ones drift? Yeah, yeah.
- 28:10They do OK. It'd be weird if you weren't a
- 28:12part. Of I'm just, I'm just a lot.
- 28:14You just see a lot because I'm way more available.
- 28:16I mean, do you have kids and families and.
- 28:18Stuff Yeah, yeah, their. Lives and future.
- 28:20Yeah, their lives are way more complicated.
- 28:22Yeah. Like I wake up and I'm like,
- 28:24what are we doing today? You know, they don't, they don't
- 28:27got that. They wake up and it's just like,
- 28:29I don't know, Dad, mom, you know, like, like real shit.
- 28:32Yeah, you know, like, you know, like we'll have to remodel my
- 28:35house or something. I don't know, like shit, we got
- 28:37that shit. We.
- 28:37Dude the the sink in the kitchen is going nuts.
- 28:40We got to have to fuck it, not do the drifting thing this
- 28:43month. Yeah, but not even a not even a
- 28:46conversation that I've ever had in my life, you know what I
- 28:50mean? Like.
- 28:51I, I kind of like, how do you feel about that?
- 28:53Do you like where you are in life?
- 28:55Because I'm the same as you and I feel pretty content about not.
- 28:59About about kids. Yeah.
- 29:02Talk about, talk about a subject we don't talk about a lot.
- 29:05Yeah. I would like to get your.
- 29:06I would like to get this out there.
- 29:07You too can talk about this and I want to listen.
- 29:09So I think, I think you, I don't think I can do what I'm doing.
- 29:17If I had a kid, Yeah. Am I happy that I went about it
- 29:21this way? Yeah.
- 29:23Right now, but my dad definitely kind of explained something to
- 29:28me was this kind of like, you may not like realize it now, but
- 29:32it's like way later on because like I'm around for my mom and
- 29:36dad and my brothers are around for that.
- 29:38So like they have that last bit of like connection.
- 29:42But theoretically I wouldn't because I have no kids or
- 29:46nothing like that. You know, I have my nieces and
- 29:49stuff like that. They they could have kids and I
- 29:50can maybe have that or my younger brother maybe have kids
- 29:53and but me directly I want so he says like that.
- 29:56That might be something you miss, depending on how your life
- 29:59holds unfolds later on in life. Yeah.
- 30:01What I always say to people is I'm like, is there something
- 30:06that just like clicks in your head where all of a sudden you
- 30:09want kids? Or is that not something that
- 30:11exists? Because if it doesn't, then I
- 30:14don't think I'm ever having kids because that's not even a
- 30:16thought in my brain. I would I would my 100%.
- 30:20I mean, I'd have to have a girlfriend.
- 30:21Yeah, obviously, obviously we're.
- 30:22There's a lot of steps. I'm the same, I'm the same, I'm
- 30:24in the same boat happen but we're just assuming that.
- 30:27So let's say, you know, yeah, I've been with someone for a
- 30:30while and I'm, yeah. And I have a kid.
- 30:33I think it would be more so like I for me personally, I would
- 30:36want to be financially in a better position for that.
- 30:40Yeah. Like I am definitely where I
- 30:42need to be to do what I do now. Yeah, I'm very happy and content
- 30:46with. It and if you didn't drift.
- 30:48And if I if. You probably could afford a kid
- 30:50no problem. Yeah.
- 30:51Yeah. I think.
- 30:52So see, that's the. Thing it's like.
- 30:54So but so I would want to do. It That's horrible to say,
- 30:58actually. But it's the truth because you
- 30:59want, because immediately you can't.
- 31:01It's not horrible. It's just that I feel like we
- 31:03all have that instinct, even guys.
- 31:05I mean, I don't, I want to speak for everyone, but I feel like
- 31:07most of us, I think, or at least me, if I were to have a kid, I'd
- 31:10be like immediately I'd go into dad mode.
- 31:13I think it's like an instinct or something, you know, because my
- 31:15dad's breastfeeding and. Yeah, Well, yeah, no more.
- 31:19So my dad's done a really good job of being a fire figure, so
- 31:22I'd want to like, yeah, pass that.
- 31:23On you, I think both of you would be great parents.
- 31:26Same with. Me.
- 31:27No way. No way.
- 31:27You think I would be a great parent?
- 31:29Oh. No, man.
- 31:31You just being. You're being nice right now how
- 31:32would? You not be a great.
- 31:33Parent, I think if you had a daughter, she'd have me wrapped
- 31:35around her fingers. If I had a daughter, she'd have
- 31:38me wrapped around her little finger.
- 31:40Yeah, I'd be. Screwed.
- 31:42But Frankie, Quite quite literally.
- 31:45But makes rules. Guess what though, We don't got
- 31:49kids. We don't.
- 31:50We don't got kids. We don't.
- 31:51That's why I'm just over. Here painting like no offense to
- 31:54anyone who has kids, but like I see their no.
- 31:56No offense at all. I'm like fuck, I feel like shit.
- 31:59I feel like people who have kids understand.
- 32:02Yeah, yeah, they have. They, they are.
- 32:03They have the hardest job in the world.
- 32:05Yeah, Yeah. They're like we we would
- 32:07understand if I mean, they could probably look at me and be like
- 32:09maybe that. Like, imagine we get to go home
- 32:11tonight and go to sleep and not have to worry about where
- 32:13anyone's at. Yeah, I mean, my, my fucking
- 32:16employee just started his car. You're here in the back, but
- 32:18he's got two kids and I'm like every time he comes in.
- 32:22But he makes it happen. Bro, he comes to work.
- 32:24All powers. He's a stronger.
- 32:26He makes it happen. He's.
- 32:28Dads are strong people. Moms are strong.
- 32:29People. You know, because you have to
- 32:31take care. You now have a you like levelled
- 32:35up in like the life tertiary, like you went boop and now you
- 32:38under this bracket. You have another human now so
- 32:41that the other human can make it their own bracket.
- 32:43Yeah, you know, yeah, whatever the fuck Carl just said by
- 32:47Bracket of Life, bro. Yeah, what what I'm saying is he
- 32:50comes in and he doesn't complain about anything.
- 32:55And then yeah, other employees will come in and they'd be
- 32:58complaining about everything. And I'm like, OK, I'm like, go
- 33:01look. At you know what?
- 33:03The fuck? Perspective is life, you know.
- 33:05Perspective is life. You know, yeah.
- 33:07But it's like, look at, look at Jesus, like he fucking has two
- 33:10kids. He he got two hours of sleep
- 33:12last night. Yo, but like, maybe he's just.
- 33:14He's going to bust his ass all day.
- 33:15Makes it happen. Yeah, perspective on life, dude.
- 33:18Also, you have two kids so you got to fucking bust your ass and
- 33:21make money. Yeah.
- 33:22And maybe those, maybe those kids bring some sort of, well, I
- 33:26can only assume some amazing joy to his life where it's.
- 33:29Yeah. That's what everyone says.
- 33:30That, you know, and that's where I think the disconnect because
- 33:32we don't have that. But I I wouldn't even know what
- 33:35that feeling. I I get teary eyed about little
- 33:37shit some days. Like I could never see my son
- 33:40walk. What?
- 33:41Oh. Shit, I think more so when I saw
- 33:43my older brother go through it because my older brother's 10
- 33:46years older than me. So then when he had kids and I
- 33:49saw him become a dad and I'm like, damn, my, my brother's
- 33:51like he's doing it. Yeah.
- 33:53I'm not going to do it. That's on.
- 33:57Him, I was like, yo, like, yo, he's, he's a real one, yeah,
- 34:00he's like. And for me, I'm turning 30 next
- 34:04month. Oh fuck, you don't turn 40 in
- 34:07May. I know.
- 34:08Well, I I just. Kept I'm in the middle.
- 34:10I used to keep. I used to make fun of Frankie
- 34:12all the time for being 30. Then all of a sudden.
- 34:15Oops. Now I'm going to turn 30.
- 34:17Yeah, so now me and Frankie are the same age.
- 34:20Not really. That works, but yeah.
- 34:21Once pretty much enter that brat.
- 34:23Yeah, you're in the brat bar. Yeah, for a little while, no one
- 34:26asked anybody how old they were. He's the only one that can make
- 34:29fun of us. Well, how old are?
- 34:31How old? Are you Malcolm?
- 34:31How old are? You 28.
- 34:35That's 28. It's not really.
- 34:37It's screw you. That's like, that's like where?
- 34:39It drops down. He has no Grays.
- 34:42He has nothing. But no for.
- 34:43For me, like I, I think I don't want to stop at the same deal if
- 34:49I had a kid and the kid first of all can happen anytime, like I
- 34:57meet somebody, I have a wild night or if I'm with somebody
- 35:00for a long time. He's being.
- 35:02On like, it doesn't matter. Like if that baby happens, I'm
- 35:06stopping a lot of the things that I have to that I like.
- 35:08OK, but here's the difference I. I'm not sacrificing anything,
- 35:12I'm not selling anything, but I know that you got to lock in
- 35:15just like. Jesus, but I feel like you would
- 35:17like to have a kid. I would love to, but I just know
- 35:20that I my. Card.
- 35:21The card. The cards.
- 35:23In my hand, none of them. Equal that right now and Malcolm
- 35:28would like to be a dad. Malcolm would love to.
- 35:31Yeah, you. You would whip that thing out.
- 35:33Poop right on. The back.
- 35:35Wait, what? Oh wait, what?
- 35:36Whip the. Tit out.
- 35:38Oh, all right, all right. Yeah, I talked to Malcolm about
- 35:43this. Do you really?
- 35:45Yeah. Well, you sit next to each other
- 35:46for a. While 28.
- 35:47Because what happens is someone will do some crazy dumb shit and
- 35:50I'm like, this guys got a fucking kid.
- 35:52What an idiot. And then I'm like, wait, you
- 35:53want a kid one day? Never mind.
- 35:54No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So that's that's exactly what
- 35:58I'm talking about. I just don't get it where in
- 36:00the? Manual where in the manual says
- 36:02that dad can't fucking continue to have fun and be who they are.
- 36:07You know what it is and do the shit.
- 36:08That they like to do. I think ideally if like if you
- 36:11told me, hey man, you can have a kid and you can still do
- 36:14everything and I can, I have a structured enough to where I can
- 36:19give him that lifestyle. And the board, both comfortably.
- 36:22Then sign me up. I mean, people are doing it.
- 36:25But I, you know, and I know there are people are doing it,
- 36:27but like I want to be able to do it comfortably.
- 36:30Yeah, you know who I think is is an awesome dad and I still see
- 36:33around rich bro. He just, he just had a kid.
- 36:38Right, I know, but but I saw the baby pretty shortly after they
- 36:43had it. I was like or him or her.
- 36:46I don't, I don't really remember.
- 36:48Yeah, I don't know either. But nonetheless, I was like, hey
- 36:50Rich, shouldn't you be like? Yeah, well, Rich is a good
- 36:54example. Let's see what happens with
- 36:55Rich, because Rich is fucking deep into drifting.
- 36:58And he's smart. But see, Rich knows what to do.
- 37:00I already could tell you he knows what to do.
- 37:02Yeah, you got Stoneback. Stoneback too.
- 37:05What are we talking about? Stoneback has.
- 37:07Eight kids now, right? 8 I think. 933 No 810 he.
- 37:11Has a soccer like 20 I think. And like 8S fifteens.
- 37:15Yeah, you're right. Sorry.
- 37:15It was the S15 number I was confusing it with.
- 37:17Yeah. No, but he.
- 37:19Did Hector? Hector's a good dad and he's
- 37:20still in the game, you know? Hector's a Hector is rigged
- 37:24right now. Are you friends with Hector on
- 37:26Facebook? I I.
- 37:27Yeah, yeah, Hector's like he just went to the pen or
- 37:29something. I don't.
- 37:30I don't. Know and and I'm over here I'm
- 37:33like God damn, I feel. I feel like he middle man's a
- 37:36lot right now, like he looks like Gay's older.
- 37:38Brother dude, like I don't. I remember when he was here,
- 37:42like, what, two years ago? Like that's not Hector.
- 37:44It's heck, you know, like that's not Hector.
- 37:47He was here like two years ago. He's like, yeah, I got to start
- 37:49working out again and then boom, fucking.
- 37:52Rich, I'm telling you, did you see a picture of him recently?
- 37:54He's. Literally.
- 37:55Jacked. I'm like Hector.
- 37:57When he said when he says he's going to do something, he does
- 37:59it. You know.
- 38:02There is that too. Characteristic trait there.
- 38:04Yeah, I'm with that. Heck, what's up, heck?
- 38:09So it was Gabe's birthday recently, too.
- 38:10I think that's yeah. You.
- 38:13You can judge a father based on how his kids come out, right?
- 38:15That's a good way to do it. And look at Hector's kids.
- 38:18Fucking amazing. I feel fucking when Gabe's
- 38:21around. I feel like I I need to be on my
- 38:22best behavior. Exactly.
- 38:23And that's how you feel when you're on Hector.
- 38:26Gabe is great because like, if he don't like something like.
- 38:31Yeah. He'll just be like, like on his
- 38:35face. It just says like, that's corny.
- 38:37Like just you can see it on his face.
- 38:39What are we doing? Then he looks at you for calm
- 38:41from it, like right. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yo.
- 38:45And he's right and he don't care.
- 38:46He's just like. And just so people know, these
- 38:49are club loose, club loose people that we're talking about
- 38:52right now, so. I haven't heard from Gabe in a
- 38:54minute. He's probably, you know what it
- 38:55is. If I haven't heard from Gabe,
- 38:56he's probably doing something and it's probably something very
- 38:59beneficial to him and so. He's probably getting beat up by
- 39:03heck. Yeah, Honestly, Yeah.
- 39:05What? Do you mean?
- 39:06Bro, dude, heck is he'd be dead lifting and she'd be seeing that
- 39:10like bro. You imagine getting hit by a
- 39:12punch Buggy by him. Bro imagine you failed tech by
- 39:14him. Get the fuck out.
- 39:17Yeah, seeing him, man. Go for his knees bro.
- 39:19Go for yo stop, all right? Every older person's weak point.
- 39:25So kids are off our table right now I guess.
- 39:28Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, I'm just glad I'm not
- 39:30alone. That's why I want to ask No.
- 39:31Because I, I just couldn't do, I couldn't do what I'm doing and
- 39:34travel and do all that stuff. And, and you know, because I
- 39:38think what a lot, because I have a lot of people that ask me
- 39:40like, hey, man, like I want to do something like this.
- 39:42I want to get involved in drifting and all into a
- 39:45different capacity and stuff and all that.
- 39:48But what it really comes down to is like when that phone call
- 39:51comes and they're like, yo, I need blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 39:53You got to be ready to say, yeah, you get, oh, I don't know,
- 39:56like, yeah, you just got to go like the whole Dubai thing.
- 39:58That was like a week before. Yeah, that's a good example.
- 40:02That's. A pretty that was like, yo, are
- 40:03you available? Yeah, All right.
- 40:05Cool. Like someone will call you in
- 40:07like an hour and like they called me.
- 40:09And the truck will come by and pick you up.
- 40:10Yeah, and like yo. And everything worked out
- 40:12perfectly. Like, you know, the big shout
- 40:14out to Yousef, everybody from there was awesome.
- 40:17But like last minute, like yo, what's up?
- 40:19I hate to sound like the bitch in a room right now but the but
- 40:23the sport that we do is not exactly safe either.
- 40:28Like if you have a kid that you need to come home to someday,
- 40:31stop for things. I mean fucking explosion SR20
- 40:35blue. Maybe, maybe when we're doing it
- 40:37on the street, but I mean, yeah, I think it's pretty safe.
- 40:40I think it's safe. Yeah, well now you have link EC
- 40:42us providing you fail safes in every parameter.
- 40:44No. Hey yo, Link.
- 40:48Link's about to make a lot more sales.
- 40:51That was really good. You know why?
- 40:53Because of that. No, because Jay from Auto
- 40:57factory realized came out with a little power FC looking device
- 41:03to put their screen in. Of course, and you can control
- 41:06it too. Jay is brilliant as hell man.
- 41:09So now, now, now it's. That's pretty bad.
- 41:13That's a guy who listens though, OK.
- 41:15Now people are going to have no reason to do power and.
- 41:18I hope Jay listens to the podcast.
- 41:19I know there's a lot of episodes and I don't know how up to date
- 41:22people are, but I get to talk to Jay sometimes and that's kind of
- 41:26weird because I I just knew him through the videos.
- 41:28Oh really? I never met him, ever.
- 41:30He's the nicest guy in the world.
- 41:32I feel like he we would have a really good conversation.
- 41:35Yeah Jake, come out here, call me sometime.
- 41:37We're. Not going to fight you out but.
- 41:38Come out. If you happen.
- 41:40To be real that click through thing bro.
- 41:44He probably knew how to do that already dude.
- 41:46That shit is crazy. Like he's it has buttons on it
- 41:49and everything. It looks like a power of C.
- 41:51Do you hear yourself? It has buttons on.
- 41:54Like they work. You OK?
- 41:57Like it's all set up. Usually what happens is someone
- 42:00will make something and put a screen in it and then that's it.
- 42:03And they're like, yeah, look, it's like a power of C No, it's
- 42:04not. You can't control it.
- 42:06This is you can control it. So like, he pretty much just
- 42:11changed the game for 240 owners and anyone else, honestly anyone
- 42:14else who really like the power FC commander Because now it's
- 42:18like, well, Apexi's not updating their ECU obviously.
- 42:22Yeah, it's crazy. Like it's crazy how far those
- 42:25two 40s have come. Yeah.
- 42:28Like I I think I'm just going to start doing out the beige 1.
- 42:31You probably should. I was going to keep it, but I'm
- 42:34like, I mean, keep it to like, oh, let's keep it original, but.
- 42:36You need to drop that off here and we need to have a
- 42:38conversation about. That.
- 42:39What? I got to figure this out.
- 42:41I picked one up that's all stock and I just drove it around for.
- 42:45A while, yeah, you. Don't drive it.
- 42:46You don't drive it anymore. No, no, but I'm sure there's
- 42:48some rust and so you know, like anything.
- 42:50It's time to drift it in. Yeah, yeah.
- 42:52Hey, hold on. Wait, Jay, I hope, I hope that
- 42:55you sell that thing and that does something for you.
- 42:57He's. Going to.
- 42:58Because. Sorry, just put a lid on that.
- 43:00And we're going to sell it here. Because my next thing was how
- 43:03good the link works just period. Like Daryl just texted me and
- 43:08that threw me off because I was going to talk about Daryl, my
- 43:10roommate and also one of my best friends.
- 43:13I turn his car on to move it any day of the week.
- 43:17Any temp you remember that cold as day we had a couple weeks
- 43:20ago. I had to move the car and it
- 43:23skipped my mind that like oh this is like a the one J in here
- 43:28it might not turn on link link. How was it?
- 43:34How was it? Kick, kick, kick.
- 43:37Easy. 2 cranks like one of those.
- 43:40Not that. What's up.
- 43:43See ya. There he goes.
- 43:45There's a dad. There's a dad, yo.
- 43:46Yo-yo. Get in here, yo-yo.
- 43:51Good to meet you. Click.
- 43:51Click, click, click. Now you're going.
- 43:53To rob more of his time, you're quite literally going to rob
- 43:56more of his time. Come here.
- 43:58We were just talking about how me and Reese don't have kids and
- 44:01we don't really want them. But then I told him about you
- 44:03and I said this guy has two kids.
- 44:07He comes in here every morning. He says yeah, I got like 2 hours
- 44:11of sleep last night. And he never bitches about
- 44:12anything. Can you tell us how how it is
- 44:15living the life of a dad drifter?
- 44:18Just give me like a rundown like his.
- 44:20Is it easy? Hell no.
- 44:22It's not easy. Yeah, You just, you just do it
- 44:26like having kids and trying to like it's all balancing, like
- 44:32money wise, time wise, making sure they're good.
- 44:36And obviously I got a wife making sure she's good.
- 44:38You know what they say, happy wife, happy life.
- 44:41But it's all about like a balancing act and try to get
- 44:45your kids to like it so they want to come out.
- 44:48Reese was saying Reese was. Like, wow, that you hear that
- 44:51response. It's very much for it's very
- 44:53like calm. Yeah.
- 44:54We're over here. I'm over.
- 44:55Here we're immediately. We're over here like kids.
- 44:57Fuck that, I. I asked Reese if he was ready to
- 45:00breastfeed. Like.
- 45:02Totally different wavelengths here and it's that's good.
- 45:07It's also good that we know that as a three over here and
- 45:11possibly A4 like we know that who.
- 45:15Comes next he's going to have a kid next Oh yeah for.
- 45:17Sure. All right.
- 45:20Well, thanks. You want to get your opinion?
- 45:21Yeah. Better, better get going.
- 45:23Yeah, they are. You.
- 45:27Know she already texted me. It's like your kids watch you.
- 45:32Oh, God, So where are you? It really be like that, though.
- 45:34Yeah. And and that I think it's good
- 45:37again, to our characters that we said what we said and we know,
- 45:43you know, we're not here trying to be somebody when I would love
- 45:47to be a dad one day, hopefully. I will say that I feel like
- 45:49there's a lot more people that I know that are like me in in the
- 45:53industry. I mean, I know people that have
- 45:55kids, obviously, but I know a lot more people that are more
- 45:59similar to like how I'm going about doing it and they don't
- 46:01have kids. And it's the same reason they're
- 46:03like, we just need the flexibility.
- 46:04We need this, we need that. And that's just kind of how we
- 46:08went about about doing it. Well, that's good to hear,
- 46:10because sometimes I think I'm just wired completely wrong.
- 46:14Yeah, I mean, but you never know, you might meet someone,
- 46:16you fall in love and then. Yeah, I get that part.
- 46:19Yeah, yeah. It's the other part where I'm
- 46:21like, well, the the, the. I don't get that.
- 46:24Part it goes like and then. Yeah.
- 46:25And then what? The Discovery Channel.
- 46:28No, I just don't. I'm like, oh, cool, we're in
- 46:29love. We're hanging out.
- 46:30Yeah, life's awesome. And then the bird.
- 46:32Comes. Imagine we just had a really
- 46:34annoying fucking thing that was hanging around and it would just
- 46:36never let us do anything. You're scared that your baby,
- 46:39you're scared this guy is afraid that you wouldn't.
- 46:42You wouldn't love your you're scared you would not love your
- 46:44kid. When I, when I that, when I'm
- 46:46crazy, when I say I don't understand it, I don't
- 46:50understand it. Bro it is literally it.
- 46:52It's like. You know when I you, you know
- 46:54when I don't understand that when I have to take a flight to
- 46:57Orlando. That's a good example, but
- 46:59that's me 24/7. Bro Oh, because of the plane,
- 47:02because of the. Oh, but that's me 24/7 dude.
- 47:05Like I don't get it. Like when I see them running
- 47:07around I'm like, I don't get it. When they're being cute and
- 47:09shit, I'm like that's cute but I don't get it do.
- 47:12You think you would be able to. So when you're on a plane like
- 47:14that, what annoys me is 'cause there's things that I would do
- 47:18if I was a parent in that situation, there's some things
- 47:21that I would do to try, 'cause I'm considerate of my
- 47:25surroundings and I took that responsibility.
- 47:27The person next to me didn't like.
- 47:29So I would try. I would try.
- 47:31Never even came into my mind. When they don't try, when they
- 47:34don't try and I see the person sitting there fucking watching
- 47:38or playing something on their iPad or something, I'm like,
- 47:41dude, if that was my mom, she'd be trying to, you know, tell me.
- 47:45Or I would try to educate my child, like, yo, we're on a
- 47:47plane. Shut the fuck up.
- 47:48Yes and yes and no. I mean, I agree with what you're
- 47:51saying, but at the same time it's like we have no idea.
- 47:53I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking.
- 47:55About exactly, it's like. It's just, it's just what I
- 47:57would. It's just me trying to think of
- 47:59what I would do. I I don't.
- 48:01The thought doesn't even come in my head when I see it when I see
- 48:03a baby like crying or some shit on an airplane.
- 48:05What would you do? And it's annoying me close my
- 48:07eyes exactly that's I just. Closed my eyes and go why the
- 48:11fuck? Would you just ever do that to
- 48:12yourself? And then you start looking at,
- 48:13you start like clicking on the screen thinking like.
- 48:15I don't know if you're. Watching this but Reese really
- 48:17said. I just wanted to fucking close
- 48:19my eyes. Bro doesn't even have it then.
- 48:24You start looking at the like the headrest with the screen to
- 48:27see how long until the the the plane lands.
- 48:30You're like 7 hours. Tuesday.
- 48:31No, no. No, no, no, no, no.
- 48:32No, no one's going to get this reference, but I have to say it.
- 48:34No one's seen the movie Kung Pao, right?
- 48:37Yeah, yeah, You saw it. You saw it.
- 48:41You said yeah. No fucking way.
- 48:42I used. To rent that from the library.
- 48:44Fuck up Malcolm saw Kung Pao, OK?
- 48:45Can we? Can we?
- 48:46Explain what is this and what year is the movie?
- 48:48I cannot explain the movie. It's so.
- 48:50Ridiculous. It's it's a Kung Fu flick.
- 48:52It's like a it's a comedy Kung Fu flip parody.
- 48:55It's a parody. Anyway, the beginning, one of
- 48:57the opening scenes, this lady's walking down the street.
- 49:01These guy, this, this, I think it's this family or something,
- 49:04But they abandoned their child. They throw the child down the
- 49:05mountain. So the mountains rolling, the
- 49:08the kids rolling down the hill, right?
- 49:10And he stops and this woman finds her, finds the kid.
- 49:13She goes, oh, Oh my God, picks up the baby.
- 49:16She goes so cute, bye bye and rolls it down the hill again.
- 49:21And I'm like, that's me. That's literally me.
- 49:23So I like that's, that's, that's my mindset.
- 49:26That's what you fucking I don't bring to the table.
- 49:29I don't get it. I, I know, I know a lot of
- 49:31people. I I have nothing against it, but
- 49:33I do know a lot of people that it's just a big no.
- 49:37Yeah, I I also have friends who are like, that's why you just
- 49:40have, I think. I have more friends that are the
- 49:42opposite. You just got to pick what you
- 49:44what's for you. You know what I mean?
- 49:46Nobody's telling you. Any more of those friends
- 49:48hanging around? What the nose?
- 49:49Sometimes you got to change, sometimes you got to just adjust
- 49:52your circle. Yeah, yeah, you need to like
- 49:54maybe snowboarding, skydiving, more drift.
- 49:58Skydiving. Fucking just crazy stuff.
- 50:00Go to Bali and all that. Shit people?
- 50:02Probably. Yeah, they're probably not.
- 50:03Really big parents. I could see you going to a
- 50:05fucking little travel group where it's singles only you
- 50:07staying in hostels and shit. Yeah.
- 50:09But. Yeah, but then like you see it
- 50:11on the other side, like for instance, like I used to spot
- 50:13for Alec, Robin and FD and like he would bring his whole family
- 50:18like like a literally a whole. Yeah, I was with the.
- 50:20People and like, I mean, don't get me wrong, for me it's still
- 50:25a hell no I. Wouldn't do it?
- 50:27Like what? I saw there, I don't know, but
- 50:29to see how they would have been, how supportive, like I thought
- 50:32that was cool. Like, yeah, you would go to the
- 50:34Airbnb's because I would stay with them, right?
- 50:36And they would like cook food and this thing and the other.
- 50:39So like I thought that was really cool.
- 50:40Again, still a no. It's still a hard no, but like.
- 50:44But it's good. For them, yeah, I was gonna I
- 50:47couldn't break up you like, yo, it worked.
- 50:49And I'm just looking at this dude.
- 50:51I'm like, dude, he's doing all this.
- 50:52Obviously the fans don't know this, right?
- 50:54Because all they see is him show up and drive.
- 50:56Yeah, but like Alec is like building this and that and like
- 50:59him and his brother-in-law are over here, like working on the
- 51:01car and they're figuring this shit out this time and the other
- 51:03and. And like he has like he's a dad,
- 51:05like puts him to sleep and shit all in the same weekend of FD.
- 51:08And I'm just like, yeah, yeah. But you're, you're Superman.
- 51:12This is the other part. That I'm so I'm pretty
- 51:14disciplined. I like to challenge myself,
- 51:16things like that. I think parenting is probably
- 51:18the like highest level of like you want to challenge.
- 51:22Well, because now you got to discipline somebody else.
- 51:24You saying you like a challenge but like you're S13 dog?
- 51:29Yeah, you're right. You're S13.
- 51:31I dropped the ball on that one. Wait on the, on the on the other
- 51:35end, just like that I wanted. To bring it to light again you.
- 51:38Know, don't worry, it's people. I know we're going to go the
- 51:41whole podcast we're not talking about.
- 51:43That would have been nice. It was close.
- 51:45No, no, we're literally 20 minutes in.
- 51:47No, but. He was waiting for that.
- 51:49On the other hand, do do you remember Quan, my my one friend?
- 51:51Quan? Yes, he has a daughter who's 7.
- 51:55Yes. A kid who can talk and like have
- 51:59a conversation with you and be around things and be somewhat
- 52:03responsible. OK.
- 52:06When I see that, that's when sometimes the the empty feeling
- 52:09hits, when I'm like, damn, like they're making memories
- 52:13together, they wrote ATV. That's that's what.
- 52:16My they wrote ATV around at E Town and I was like, see, she's
- 52:19going to remember that hopefully.
- 52:20This is someone who wants a kid because you could tell because
- 52:23that that that would not even come in my head.
- 52:26What making memories and shit? The whole thing.
- 52:28She like not even, I don't relate to it at the moment, but
- 52:30I feel like if I have no other choice and, and like I'm put
- 52:34into that situation, I'd probably be all about it.
- 52:37And again, I think it's because I had such a, you know, I had, I
- 52:40have such a great dad. Yeah.
- 52:41You know, So I think I'm like, alright, like I've seen this
- 52:43before. I can do this.
- 52:44Yeah. The only way I'll have a kid is
- 52:46if I make it a challenge for myself.
- 52:48Frankie like. Let's see if we can do this
- 52:50shit. How many sit ups can you do?
- 52:52Yeah, Frankie's Francie's Frankie's kid is going to finish
- 52:55the S13. Yes, that You know what, I'm not
- 52:58the reason do you think? He's going to finish the S13
- 53:00first or pop a kid out first. Frankie's going to be the guy
- 53:03the. Kid first, because he's going to
- 53:04the kids going to finish. Well, he's going to figure out
- 53:06how to have a kid on his own. He's going to find some way to
- 53:08pop a kid out on his own. I heard you do that these days
- 53:12somewhere. I don't know.
- 53:13Men can have kids, I heard. Oh, are we done with that now?
- 53:16I don't. I think horse was it.
- 53:20Isn't there like an animal where the.
- 53:22There's some animals. That seahorse, that's a good
- 53:26seahorse. Malcolm's like Thomas Seahorse.
- 53:29Yeah, dude, you identify. I remember, remember that one
- 53:32time Malcolm was like a guy identify as a seahorse?
- 53:34Yeah. Oh, I did not say that.
- 53:36Are you sure? Because you kind of look like
- 53:37you've been. Quiet about the kid talk, No.
- 53:39You kind? Of look like he has I.
- 53:41Think he's talking about the haircut, the little flip bag.
- 53:43Is that what you're? Saying I don't know what it is,
- 53:45but wait, was that real? Carl?
- 53:46Were you serious about that? Why do I think you look like a
- 53:50seahorse? A little.
- 53:51Fuck you. Maybe it's just I don't.
- 53:54Know dad did not say that that is.
- 53:56Not what I said, you look. Like a sea monkey.
- 54:02Fair enough. There was so much ammunition
- 54:04there. I'm like, man, I wonder who's
- 54:05going to pop off? I know, right?
- 54:06I. Was wondering what?
- 54:09I don't know. You've been back quite you,
- 54:10don't you think? You think you'd be good with it?
- 54:12You think you'd be a good dad? I think I'd be a good dad, but I
- 54:15won't be a good dad right now, I'll tell you that much.
- 54:17Are you in the same thing? You're like, I just kind of want
- 54:19to get financially. And yeah, yeah, or I just feel
- 54:23like I'm not mature right now, right?
- 54:24That's how I. Feel about a few, a few more
- 54:26years, I'll be all right. And I feel the same.
- 54:29Like like 10 years later and I feel the same.
- 54:34Like like those little mots fruit snacks I'd give him one or
- 54:38him or her one. I'd be like damn these are good
- 54:40as fuck. To me, I don't know, I'm just
- 54:42going to sound more and more like a piece of shit this
- 54:44episode. So to me it's like when I see.
- 54:46Don't feel alone. First of all, people have
- 54:47commented before. Someone out there feel?
- 54:49Fuck yeah, Frank. I hope so, but.
- 54:51Someone out there is like, yeah, this.
- 54:52Is one of the most accepting times possible.
- 54:54To me, it's like, to me, it's like, I see a kid and I'm like,
- 54:57OK, so when, what? At what time in my life do I
- 55:00want to fucking ruin my life? It doesn't really you thinking
- 55:03about it. That's how it goes through my
- 55:05head. No, no, no, no.
- 55:06Well, I mean, if you had tons of money or let me not say it that
- 55:09way, if you were in situation, yeah, I just don't want to say
- 55:13it that way. But if you're in a situation
- 55:15where it's like, wow, this could easily happen.
- 55:18But again, you're going to have someone that says, yeah, that's.
- 55:20Never that you could you make. So you you also sound like you
- 55:23could be a dad at one point. I I think I could.
- 55:26OK, now, now give me a million. Give me a billion dollars.
- 55:29You're. Not.
- 55:30Not really not having a. Single child, you know, with
- 55:33the, with, with that billion dollars, I can tell you, you're
- 55:36not having a kid anytime. In someone give me a billion
- 55:38dollars, I probably wouldn't have kids.
- 55:40Because you know what it is? It is.
- 55:41It's like, really? Oh, wait a minute, wait a
- 55:42minute. I contradicts what I just said.
- 55:44Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah, I thought no, but.
- 55:46I I think in that process of the billion dollars, I would find
- 55:49some fun where all of a sudden I might no, no, magically have a
- 55:52kid. This is the issue right now.
- 55:53If someone were to give me a billion dollars, I wouldn't
- 55:56because like, I don't, I don't have someone.
- 55:58Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's going to beat them off.
- 55:59We're assuming so if I had someone and yeah, that's like,
- 56:04Oh yeah, cool. That's a whole another animal.
- 56:07If you imagine me going home, like yo, I just got a billion
- 56:09dollars, you trying to have a kid?
- 56:11I thought that's a that's a whole nother thing.
- 56:13Is that like I can't? Finding.
- 56:16Finding somebody to fucking try to explain what we like to do to
- 56:21like, it's like. Yo, they're they're going to be
- 56:23like, what are you? Let me just let me just put this
- 56:26out there right? Like this is just so
- 56:28embarrassing. Like.
- 56:30Hold on A. Minute yo this trust trust me so
- 56:32like. We don't cut anything out of
- 56:35here, just so you know. That's fine.
- 56:36That's fine. Like people need to hear this
- 56:38because this. Is how?
- 56:39Yeah. No, no, they.
- 56:40Do so like I remember this one time I meet this, I meet this
- 56:47girl, this chick and she's like official has like a a like a big
- 56:52girl job and like all that and like, you know, I'm like yo,
- 56:57you. We we think like we have pretty
- 56:59cool lives. We get to travel, we get to go
- 57:01see all these right to us. But like this chick, was not
- 57:05impressed. By like drifting and all.
- 57:07That like she was like, so that's not even a job like I was
- 57:11like. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.
- 57:12That's yeah, I know what you mean, yo.
- 57:14Cut me down hard. Yeah, yeah, like.
- 57:17Hard like to the we were like, I sat there and I was just like.
- 57:21No, that's real those. Those women exist.
- 57:23Yo one, I was kind of about it one.
- 57:26For your credit score too, right The first date.
- 57:28What you do is cool, Reese. Don't let anybody.
- 57:31Tell you, but it was it was it was cool and refreshing for
- 57:34someone to stand their ground. She didn't, she didn't say it
- 57:36like a bitch or anything. She just kind of she stated like
- 57:39where she was coming from. Yeah.
- 57:40And it was just she just wasn't about that.
- 57:42But to like, you know, when you hear someone, wouldn't you
- 57:44always hear you do what? That's so, so you know what I
- 57:47mean? Like you and all my friends
- 57:48always hear that. But to hear someone who just
- 57:50doesn't give a fuck about that shit is good to be like, yeah,
- 57:52it's all right, Yeah, you're just like.
- 57:55It's refreshing to hear that perspective kind of honestly.
- 57:58I had to tell I went on a snowboard.
- 58:00Every year I go on a snowboarding trip with some
- 58:02college friends of mine. That group is my insight as well
- 58:07as a couple other friends from home.
- 58:09But that group is my insight to what reality is like outside of
- 58:14our world. What it could have been.
- 58:16What what it could have been outside of our little bubble,
- 58:18because what we have is a little bubble of like our.
- 58:21Friends a bio doomed. Art of of what?
- 58:24A bio Dome. Who are built just like us.
- 58:27They got feelings, they think just like us.
- 58:30Little Dome of it. We live in a fantasy.
- 58:32World, but then those kids like and not kids like.
- 58:36God forbid they hear this. Those those guys mean the world
- 58:39to me because they fucking give me that perspective.
- 58:43OK, this, that past this past trip, for the first time, I
- 58:48brought up something that I feel like I've never 'cause I skip
- 58:52out on some of the outings, like I don't, OK, I had to tell them
- 58:57I'm like, I'm like, yeah, you know.
- 58:59Yeah, what did you? Say because it was brought up,
- 59:01it's like, hey man, we don't really see Mike he's never going
- 59:05to listen to this Mike. I had to say no to some of these
- 59:09things because like, I'm sitting there and I'm the what?
- 59:1413th 15th wheel on the front spearheading any useless
- 59:20conversation I can because I don't know what the hell y'all
- 59:25are all talking. About you can't relate to.
- 59:27I can't relate to nothing. I can't.
- 59:30We're talking about houses. OK cool.
- 59:32I'm looking for an old house I'd love to build, like a barn.
- 59:34Dominium One building kitchen on the top.
- 59:36Did you say a barn dominium? Cat This is just an example.
- 59:39Catwalk lifts right in front. I can wake up, see my car.
- 59:42Yeah. No, why would you do that?
- 59:44That would I'll no, I'll gross what?
- 59:46No. And I had to explain like
- 59:48sometimes and it's not, I'm coming from like a place of
- 59:51like, I'm not saying I hate you. It's just understand I don't
- 59:58know how to act in any of that. This is a big part of growing up
- 1:00:02too, you realize. That happens, bro.
- 1:00:04Yeah, that's that's kind. Of and then you have to be like,
- 1:00:06OK, is it worth spending my time with this person that I can't
- 1:00:09relate to? Or is it worth spending my time
- 1:00:11with these people that I can't relate to?
- 1:00:12And maybe you can push me a little bit further.
- 1:00:14But I wanted to make sure that I wasn't telling him, like, I hate
- 1:00:18hanging out around you when you talk about this stuff.
- 1:00:20I don't want that. Yeah, I understand that.
- 1:00:22That's who you are. And I, I love you for that way
- 1:00:27and I respect what you do when you hang out with them, but just
- 1:00:29don't think that I'm just fucking giving you the culture.
- 1:00:33I don't. I just don't want to have to sit
- 1:00:35and talk about fucking. Maybe the possibility that you
- 1:00:38guys are planning to have a kid like you know?
- 1:00:40Yeah, I don't care about little Timmy.
- 1:00:42Like I don't care about those pictures.
- 1:00:45But they, they, that's my insight into that, that world.
- 1:00:49If you don't have that insight and we're in our little Dome,
- 1:00:51it's so easy to get lost, dude. And you forget about the fact
- 1:00:54that life's happening. Around you do I, I think, I
- 1:00:57think the, the best thing about drifting is that you can get
- 1:01:02engulfed in it and then and then the the repercussion of it is
- 1:01:08when you come out of it for a quick second you're just you
- 1:01:11look around and you're like, wow, everybody's got older,
- 1:01:13everyone's gotten this everyone. Dude, that is so.
- 1:01:15That's you don't realize, like I'll talk to someone and I may
- 1:01:20not have seen them for six years, but I will talk to them
- 1:01:23like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the other day.
- 1:01:24Remember, they're like bro six years ago.
- 1:01:26Yeah. Dude.
- 1:01:27Well, that that. Happens when you get older,
- 1:01:29period. That's so that is.
- 1:01:31Yeah, that sucks. No, that's.
- 1:01:33That's rad, but. Oh fuck, that gives me a bad
- 1:01:35fucking. You're about right there.
- 1:01:38It's it's hat, but yo, it's a. Good thing because it's fuck
- 1:01:41that feels gross. I don't like that, actually.
- 1:01:43Like I. Years, I kind of look at it.
- 1:01:45COVID was years ago. Yeah, it was years.
- 1:01:48Well, four. Yeah.
- 1:01:51Oh, it's. Five started five years ago,
- 1:01:54yeah. Me.
- 1:01:57That feels like two years ago. That felt like last year.
- 1:02:00We just started this podcast yesterday.
- 1:02:02That that Kovid feels like it was, I'll give it three years
- 1:02:06ago. I felt like Kovid was, I was a
- 1:02:08teenager and I'm. Yeah, right.
- 1:02:11You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's like, like
- 1:02:14right after high school, COVID hit.
- 1:02:15Yeah, that's not what happened. And then they're like, well, you
- 1:02:17know, those two years after COVID, they don't really count.
- 1:02:19And I'm like, OK, I mean, I guess that that makes my timing.
- 1:02:23Accurate then that's why I told like all the all the younger
- 1:02:26guys I'm like, you know what I told a lot of them to do now I
- 1:02:29think what's really what people miss in like this culture is
- 1:02:33like everyone's really wrapped up in like building a car and
- 1:02:39then it becomes like only a track car, but like I got to
- 1:02:42live driving my car on the street with my friends for
- 1:02:46years. Yeah just like 1 summer.
- 1:02:49It was like multiple summers where you're going to car meets
- 1:02:53and it was yeah and they were drift cars like you did some St.
- 1:02:57drifting, you know what I mean? Especially for it, like I don't
- 1:02:59want to say it's never acceptable, but I mean it was
- 1:03:01acceptable for the time period. And like that was fucking like
- 1:03:0420 years ago. So like I tell them like, yo,
- 1:03:08like don't tear your car completely apart still make it
- 1:03:12like still be able to drive with your friends to these events.
- 1:03:15And like, like that's part of it.
- 1:03:18And I feel like if all you do is just build a car and you just go
- 1:03:20straight to the track, like, yeah, you're going to drift.
- 1:03:23But like, like the character and like, like the real spirit of it
- 1:03:28all comes with like going to the track but also still cruising
- 1:03:31with your homies. Putting all the tires in the
- 1:03:32back and. Yeah, Yeah, Doing all like you
- 1:03:35got to go through. I went through that.
- 1:03:36I drift, I drove to the track. I stacked my tires in in the
- 1:03:40back of my car, like fixed cars, like in the middle of the
- 1:03:43street, wherever we were on some trip or wherever.
- 1:03:47You know, like I feel like you need to go through that because
- 1:03:50then you start appreciating like when you get a truck in a
- 1:03:52trailer and it's like, and I know some people have the money
- 1:03:55to do it, but like if you're able to just like still go to
- 1:03:58these meets and just just be a normal bro, but with like a cool
- 1:04:03car, like that's what you're going to miss like I feel.
- 1:04:06That's what I miss. I feel like people forget that
- 1:04:08there's that you can just like hang out with cars.
- 1:04:11Like you don't have to fucking be suffering all.
- 1:04:13The yeah and then drift. Like Sunday nights, bro.
- 1:04:16You. Yeah, I think that's fun.
- 1:04:17Stop bro. Like, dude, during this past
- 1:04:20summer, I, I got that feeling a lot this past summer.
- 1:04:23And that's why I can't wait for summer this year.
- 1:04:24I feel like it's going to be even better.
- 1:04:27One person needs to do something.
- 1:04:29So you call somebody that person, you maybe you let other
- 1:04:32people know, they pull up, you get the one thing done in like
- 1:04:3510 minutes. And then now you have 15 people
- 1:04:41at your house and now you're just chilling around the cars,
- 1:04:45talking about cars, bullshitting, like all in that
- 1:04:48group, that Dome that I was talking about, you just hanging
- 1:04:53out. That's like some of the best.
- 1:04:55That's the best thing about it. Memories that you can that I can
- 1:04:58think of recently that keep me comfortable about not thinking
- 1:05:01about how many years have passed or that life is pretty much
- 1:05:05whipping past me because my mom loves telling me that it's like
- 1:05:08you just keep watching your friends like fucking lives
- 1:05:10passing. But I'm like I'm fucking trying
- 1:05:12to make my IS cleanest. Fuck, what did you do with your
- 1:05:16life? Yeah.
- 1:05:18Where are you? Going I'm trying to have a nice
- 1:05:20IS. BN IS300 please mom, relax.
- 1:05:23Next time. Or like, yeah, next time.
- 1:05:25She's. But they don't.
- 1:05:26They're not. What did you do?
- 1:05:27Yeah. What have you done?
- 1:05:28Don't be crazy. That's, I hate to say it, but
- 1:05:31sometimes when I think of like my dad's like automotive little
- 1:05:34adventure that he's had through his life, blue adventure.
- 1:05:36I'm sorry, but I'm like dad, there ain't no way you're doing
- 1:05:41this shit I'm doing. Yay.
- 1:05:42See nothing yet dude. Like.
- 1:05:44No. Way.
- 1:05:45They can't. They can't comprehend, and it's
- 1:05:47not their fault. Yeah, they didn't have.
- 1:05:49It's just technology and everything.
- 1:05:50It's just like, sometimes I don't even like, get in.
- 1:05:52I'm like, yeah, I'm just out there.
- 1:05:54You were literally in Dubai judging a competition.
- 1:05:57They have to think something crazy is going.
- 1:05:59On Oh no, they think it's great, but they don't like that's
- 1:06:02insane. I don't think they know like the
- 1:06:03insurance and outs or like, why would they?
- 1:06:06Yeah, I think it's great that they don't like for instance,
- 1:06:07right. Like I love watching
- 1:06:09snowboarding. I've never snowboarded.
- 1:06:11Wait, really? So you like watching it, but
- 1:06:13you've never done it? You've got Z Powell.
- 1:06:15Growing up, all I ever wanted to do was action sports, but living
- 1:06:18in the city you couldn't. Well, you can.
- 1:06:21Skateboard, I mean, yeah, skateboard, but I mean, like
- 1:06:23then I had to like pick and choose and basketball was like
- 1:06:26easy. I didn't have money for a board
- 1:06:28or anything because even for that was like, that wasn't
- 1:06:30happening. You're going to do what
- 1:06:32sneakers? I could be like, oh, I need it
- 1:06:33for Jim. Carl could take you
- 1:06:35snowboarding. No, no, no, I'm not saying how
- 1:06:37to do it now, but I almost I almost like that I don't know a
- 1:06:42lot about it to like really know the insurance and outs because
- 1:06:47then I just enjoy it. You would.
- 1:06:49I know that. You're you're admiring it from
- 1:06:52up here. I I admire it from a very.
- 1:06:56Macro. Like a very genuine ignorant.
- 1:06:59Point. Of view genuinely ignorant.
- 1:07:02That's how I feel with music. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:07:05And I feel like there's like a lot of people, like for me, I
- 1:07:08know so much about your thing that I feel like it just, it
- 1:07:11robs some of it away from me. So when I find other things that
- 1:07:14I find interest in, I try not to like, learn too much about it.
- 1:07:17So then it's like, I have like this just this innocent, like, I
- 1:07:20don't know. So I'm just going to sit here
- 1:07:22and enjoy it. And I find so much more comfort
- 1:07:25in that. Like, I watch a documentary on
- 1:07:27what's what's to do with the red hair, Shaun White.
- 1:07:30Yeah, I watched a documentary on Shaun White because I don't know
- 1:07:33the insurance and outs of snowboarding.
- 1:07:35Like, I just sit back. I'm like, dude, this dude's just
- 1:07:37doing his thing, dude, you know, And I get to genuinely enjoy
- 1:07:41this because I don't know, there's enough.
- 1:07:43There's like room for imagination because you don't
- 1:07:45know. Yeah.
- 1:07:46You know, that's like where someone that knows about
- 1:07:48snowboarding would be like, yeah, whatever.
- 1:07:50Well, this was blah, blah. Like I would about your thing.
- 1:07:52Yeah. That's like, yes.
- 1:07:55And that's pretty much just how I feel about every other topic
- 1:07:58that comes up. Like a woodworker, probably.
- 1:08:00Like, yeah, man, I watched fucking Outdoor Boys and he
- 1:08:03built a shed. Oh man, Fucking I.
- 1:08:05Kind of want to learn a little bit about that though.
- 1:08:06That shit's. Sick.
- 1:08:07No, but that's. The old man talking.
- 1:08:09Yeah, yeah. Woodwork.
- 1:08:11I want to just. Sit bro, we built the bench in
- 1:08:13that little boot. Dune.
- 1:08:14Oh yeah. But like with music, like one of
- 1:08:18my best friends growing up was a drummer and he, he'd probably
- 1:08:23never admit it, but I, I feel like he is a little tainted from
- 1:08:26knowing so much, you know what I mean?
- 1:08:29Because like I, I feel like he's a little bit more judgmental
- 1:08:32obviously on certain things where it's like, if you don't
- 1:08:35know anything about it, everything's kind of cool.
- 1:08:37Not everything, but you know, whatever your taste is.
- 1:08:40But I remember I tried playing guitar for a minute and I was
- 1:08:43like, this shit is so difficult. And it made me appreciate it way
- 1:08:49more, like way more. I was like, I had no fucking
- 1:08:53idea how crazy playing guitar is.
- 1:08:55Like and I'm sitting there trying to play an acoustic
- 1:08:58fucking song and I'm like, these motherfuckers are drenching
- 1:09:01sweat playing crazy riffs live and singing at the same time.
- 1:09:07I'm like. On Beat that.
- 1:09:09Shit is nuts you. Ever tried to sing and play a
- 1:09:11guitar? At this stage, no.
- 1:09:13I can't even think hard shit of my life.
- 1:09:15Yeah, I fucking tried to do it once for I think it was like a
- 1:09:17talent show. You were playing for a girl.
- 1:09:19No hold. On I got to, I got to take this.
- 1:09:22Frankie's here to Weld some. For real?
- 1:09:24Yeah, I would have brought something I needed.
- 1:09:26I needed some stuff done. Did he bring water?
- 1:09:29We got no water in this bitch for real.
- 1:09:31I'm sorry, Reese, you're going to have to fucking dehydrate
- 1:09:33Juicy platters though. Juicy platters though.
- 1:09:36Oh. Yeah, dude.
- 1:09:37The guitar talk, though, I'm not going to stop on that because
- 1:09:42that is an example of something I tried to play guitar, failed
- 1:09:45at it. I kind of tried a lot of.
- 1:09:47I tried and I sucked. Yeah, a horrible.
- 1:09:49Bro my grandfather was great, he was like a classical.
- 1:09:52Oh, no one in my family is medically.
- 1:09:54So good at. It horrible but I wanted to try
- 1:09:57it. I played the trumpet.
- 1:09:59In school and stuff. Yeah, serves me right.
- 1:10:02I have a VQ. That's you, You.
- 1:10:04You can play all the notes. It's a shame.
- 1:10:07I don't, I never learned about music or anything like that.
- 1:10:11So then I, I just looked at it from back here, but the guitar,
- 1:10:17any solo or any like 80s song that has a guitar solo or or a
- 1:10:22riff that fucking just just tingles your ears a little bit.
- 1:10:26The guitar, to me, is the one that stands out.
- 1:10:28Oh yeah, yeah, like 80s Rock'n'roll and stuff like that
- 1:10:30all day long. In grit.
- 1:10:32I'm just that's cruising music. If I'm going to take a a drive,
- 1:10:36if I have to go for a drifting event and it's like more than a
- 1:10:39few hours, trust me, I'm putting on classic rock.
- 1:10:43Yeah. I'm listening to, like,
- 1:10:44Zeppelin. I'm listening to, like, Mötley
- 1:10:46Crüe. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:10:47Not because I'm like, not because I know every word, just
- 1:10:50because I think I grew up in a time where all of those movies,
- 1:10:54anytime someone was going cross country, that was the
- 1:10:57soundtrack. So I.
- 1:10:59Find comfort and just putting that music on.
- 1:11:03When I go traveling somewhere, I'm like, oh, we're going where
- 1:11:06to? South Dakota cruising music.
- 1:11:08I never. Put those two.
- 1:11:10Think about it, but think about every movie from the 90s that
- 1:11:13you may have seen growing up or in the 2000s.
- 1:11:15There's like some sort of like montage with one of those
- 1:11:18classic rock songs. I use the classic rock songs as
- 1:11:21like. Background music when you're at
- 1:11:23the shop. No, it's a hero moment.
- 1:11:25It's like fucking to me. It's like I'm going to throw the
- 1:11:27best entry of my life when this solo starts ripping.
- 1:11:30Yeah, that's what we've time for me.
- 1:11:31That because then my heart rate is like fucking through the roof
- 1:11:35in every movie that solo rips and the hero just busts out of
- 1:11:38the smoke and just saves the day.
- 1:11:40Do you think that's an American thing?
- 1:11:42Do you think? Because like that's our music.
- 1:11:43Like, do you think people like in another country, they think
- 1:11:45about their folk song and they're like.
- 1:11:47I don't know, I. Want to come out to like some
- 1:11:49Indian jams or something? You.
- 1:11:51Know that's kind of an interesting take.
- 1:11:53Because like, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:11:54Dude, sometimes I think in my head like, OK, I'm I'm Filipino,
- 1:11:58OK, Like my cousins, they probably cannot comprehend what
- 1:12:04the fuck something that we do at E Town, like fucking a private
- 1:12:07day. You're hanging out with your
- 1:12:08friends, Sun's beaming, somebody's playing music.
- 1:12:11We're all just ripping watching our friends just driving around
- 1:12:14having a good day, right? Solid day right there.
- 1:12:17If I told my cousins we were doing that, they'd be like how
- 1:12:19the. Fuck.
- 1:12:21Are you guys just able to do that?
- 1:12:22That's what you just and it's real blessed we get to do that.
- 1:12:24USOA. I'm not saying I love it here,
- 1:12:28but man, I fucking love it here. You know it.
- 1:12:31Could be worse. It could be worse.
- 1:12:32I don't got, I don't got any money into the stocks of this
- 1:12:35hotel, but it's kind of cool, man.
- 1:12:36I just like to stay here. It's, it's a solid time.
- 1:12:41It's like it's fucking solid time.
- 1:12:43People trying to break in here all the time.
- 1:12:48That's how. Good it is.
- 1:12:50That's how fucking good. It is.
- 1:12:51That's the two people that come from like, immigrants and like.
- 1:12:54Frankie just left Malcolm's look at look at how big look how big.
- 1:12:57Malcolm's smile is behind the care for Frank.
- 1:12:59Malcolm, are you first generation or are you like or
- 1:13:04second generation or? What like am I first?
- 1:13:07Was your dad born here? Oh, my dad was born here.
- 1:13:09My mom wasn't. Where was your mom born?
- 1:13:11The Philippines. Damn, I thought he was like
- 1:13:14Spanish. I look Dominican but.
- 1:13:16Not yeah, some people. I thought you were a platon or
- 1:13:19something. There somebody, somebody said
- 1:13:21that you look kind of Indian one time.
- 1:13:22I get Indian, Dominican, Dominican Indian, yeah.
- 1:13:25Damn, I don't. You can't really.
- 1:13:27You can't see. It Oh no, it depends.
- 1:13:29His haircut. Dude one time I was just on the
- 1:13:31sidewalk in. Front of my house.
- 1:13:32I can see it now. I can.
- 1:13:34See it now? And so the Indian neighbor just
- 1:13:36came outside, walked up to me and asked if I played cricket.
- 1:13:38And I was like. Damn, for real?
- 1:13:40That's hard though, yeah. Crickets.
- 1:13:43No, I don't. He just thought I was Indian.
- 1:13:44I was like, no, I don't play cricket first.
- 1:13:46Of all, there's other countries that play cricket.
- 1:13:48Yeah, but he was Indian as well, so he probably thought I was
- 1:13:51you. Think he threw down You think he
- 1:13:53like? He definitely played some
- 1:13:54cricket. He.
- 1:13:54Definitely played. Did he have his paddle with him?
- 1:13:56Smack in the wickets back, that's another.
- 1:13:57Weird sport that he played. Oh, the one where they throw the
- 1:14:01the ball really fast. With like the little coop thing.
- 1:14:05All the curved. High a lie?
- 1:14:06What is it? High a lie.
- 1:14:07Yeah. Could you match again hit with
- 1:14:09one of those? Things.
- 1:14:09They did it in Jackass, remember?
- 1:14:11Oh yeah. That's why I know what that is.
- 1:14:14God. They they fucking do.
- 1:14:16Why don't we do that here? Why do they?
- 1:14:18Why would we ever do that here? We got racquetball here.
- 1:14:22You know, that's that's very. True, you get hit by a
- 1:14:24racquetball. Do you ever?
- 1:14:26Hear of Batman? Is Batman American?
- 1:14:28I don't know that's. Let's look it up.
- 1:14:30There's no way badminton is American.
- 1:14:34That's got to be where was badminton invented?
- 1:14:40Shit, it's India. Stop for real.
- 1:14:43See. Yeah, my Indian neighbors play
- 1:14:45that too. Whenever it's nice out they pop
- 1:14:47open the fucking the net. Nah.
- 1:14:51My family just play soccer. Yeah, I was going to say soccer
- 1:14:53or we're a volleyball people. Volleyball, bro.
- 1:14:58Malcolm, I literally seen you. We played volleyball together.
- 1:15:02Where yo your best? Friend plays volleyball OK,
- 1:15:05that's that's your country who's.
- 1:15:06The country that that plays the sport where they like kick, they
- 1:15:09play volleyball, but they're kicking, they're using probably
- 1:15:11Brazil. Yeah, probably Brazil.
- 1:15:13That is some Brazilian shit. Do you ever go drifting there
- 1:15:15yet? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:17I went down to Brazil to judge Drift Show Brazil.
- 1:15:22I went down there with a couple of people.
- 1:15:25The vibe was great. I fucking bet they probably
- 1:15:27party like hell over there. Yeah, yeah, they definitely
- 1:15:30party really everywhere and just dude, any, anywhere Germany.
- 1:15:35The the event I did over in Germany this past summer was
- 1:15:37like, that was great. It was 100 plus battles or
- 1:15:40something like that that we had to judge 6 judges at that one.
- 1:15:42That's another thing too, is, is as much as we're, we're like US
- 1:15:47of a baby, but nonetheless, if you're drifting in any country
- 1:15:53or that's that that scene in that country is fun as hell.
- 1:15:57Everybody's having fun. My I think it's.
- 1:16:00Hard to not have fun. You want to go to like, like I
- 1:16:04want to go to Russia to go drift.
- 1:16:05There. Oh dude.
- 1:16:06Like I'm trying to go to Sochi. Like if you told me there was
- 1:16:08people drifting in Mars like I'm trying to.
- 1:16:11Fucking drift it. You know my twist right now?
- 1:16:14You know how like in skateboarding, there's like, oh,
- 1:16:16I'm trying to go to this plot, this spot.
- 1:16:17Oh God, I just had this fucking conversation with Nick.
- 1:16:20Bro you want to own that spot like before anybody else does
- 1:16:24one? 100% so, but for me, for me,
- 1:16:28right in Colombia, they have the main track called to Cantipa.
- 1:16:33So like everyone talks about that main track, but when you
- 1:16:36look up Cartadromos, which are like the cart circuits, there's
- 1:16:41like 10 of them and no one even thinks about that.
- 1:16:46So like, I'm trying to figure out a way to get a car or get
- 1:16:49something down there, get it set up, and then I want to go claim
- 1:16:52homage to all of those, Dude, I want to who's going to go?
- 1:16:56Who's going to go do them? I want to do that same thing in
- 1:16:58the Philippines because they have some tracks but they grip
- 1:17:00drive there no one drifts. Exactly, the consumables for
- 1:17:03drifting is way too high for it to be in a country.
- 1:17:07That's why you got to make sure. Do you have a set up like in
- 1:17:10Colombia? I know I can go there and be
- 1:17:12like, listen, dude, I'm like, I'm going to give you $200.
- 1:17:14And. I'm going to get the track for a
- 1:17:16couple hours and I'm going to like bang out this video.
- 1:17:18Like I know it can happen down there.
- 1:17:19I'm sure it can happen in the Philippines as well.
- 1:17:21Too. I know.
- 1:17:22I'm trying to think of how much am I going to get tires for
- 1:17:25because Westlake is huge there. They fucking love Westlake
- 1:17:28there. I don't know if they make it.
- 1:17:29There, I think I'll probably spend like 10 grand doing that
- 1:17:38whole ordeal if I end up buying a car down there.
- 1:17:41Like I'm trying to see if I can get one of the car.
- 1:17:42So in Venezuela you can get like 350 ZS for like hundreds of
- 1:17:47dollars really. But try to get them the fuck out
- 1:17:49of Venezuela. Oh, no, no, no.
- 1:17:51You're. Keeping so like I'm trying to
- 1:17:52see if like, but I'm still like, who's crazy are they?
- 1:17:55Be like, yo, I'll do it for you. So someone can grab me one of
- 1:17:58those ZS and bring it over to Colombia because they're
- 1:18:00neighbors. Then like, boom, I'm in there.
- 1:18:02You know what I mean? Like.
- 1:18:04Now you're now you're involving a lot of the problem for the our
- 1:18:08island is, is everything there is expensive as fuck because
- 1:18:12it's got to get brought in. Still pain?
- 1:18:14Painful. Venezuela might as well be on an
- 1:18:16island right now because like, you can't get anything to
- 1:18:18service any of those cars. So that's why they cost sold.
- 1:18:22They cost nothing. Well.
- 1:18:23What if you go there with like a suitcase?
- 1:18:25I'm not trying. To go to Venezuela bro, like my
- 1:18:27American ass go hell no. Even if I had dual citizenship,
- 1:18:30which I'm working on in Colombia, I wouldn't go over
- 1:18:32there. I'd have to find someone there
- 1:18:33to do it. Like like I think what's going
- 1:18:35to end up happening is I'm going to have to find it a different
- 1:18:37way. Maybe get it from Costa Rica or
- 1:18:38something like that. Because Colombia doesn't have
- 1:18:39any ZS or any anything good. They don't.
- 1:18:41All they have is BMWs. Where would you go drift if if
- 1:18:44we're talking about drifting in other countries and how we want
- 1:18:47to like be the first there? Like you been skating, They're
- 1:18:51like, oh, I'm going to go shred the spot before anybody else.
- 1:18:54But there's a whole bunch of good projects in Colombia that
- 1:18:56I'm trying to go drift before anybody else gets to do it.
- 1:18:59Then that's it. Like you're a legend at that
- 1:19:00point. Yeah, see, nothing.
- 1:19:02Nothing's cool unless it's on the street.
- 1:19:03And I don't know too many St. spots in different countries.
- 1:19:07So that's the problem. Did you under, did you catch
- 1:19:10this in Japan? But the, the road pavement in
- 1:19:14some of those areas, it's like this white.
- 1:19:17It's talking about like the grippy stuff.
- 1:19:19No, no, no. It's like concrete kind.
- 1:19:24Of he's like, it's like. Concrete.
- 1:19:25I don't know. But like the roadies of the of
- 1:19:27the 86. Dude, I'm just saying.
- 1:19:29I'm just saying like in other countries, the street spots are
- 1:19:32fucking rough. Yeah.
- 1:19:34Like it's not. Well, it depends.
- 1:19:37It depends. Like Iran, yo.
- 1:19:39I swear to God whatever they put in the asphalt on the last
- 1:19:44circuit that we did or the last stage we did for drift
- 1:19:47Appalachia like that has to be weight.
- 1:19:49The cars were like 500 horsepower and 8090 or PSI.
- 1:19:57Oh, it was grippy. It's really grippy, but.
- 1:19:59You're driving on a on a NASCAR track.
- 1:20:02No, no, it was just a normal I I mean, it's just a you saw it,
- 1:20:06bro. It was, but the pavement didn't
- 1:20:08look weird. It didn't think.
- 1:20:10I think Brian Hopp was saying that he thinks that they put
- 1:20:12graphite in. Yeah, they could.
- 1:20:14That's what makes it more grippy.
- 1:20:17Fuck, that's. Perfect.
- 1:20:18Because why wouldn't? Know because he's he deals with
- 1:20:20that, he deals with pavers and all that stuff.
- 1:20:22So he would know about that stuff.
- 1:20:24I fucking one. I would have believed him
- 1:20:26immediately and I do believe him now and I'm going to look into
- 1:20:28that. I mean, he's not, he's not 100%
- 1:20:30sure. He just took a very educated
- 1:20:32guess. He's like, yeah, they're
- 1:20:32probably putting graphite and they're like.
- 1:20:34Well, they probably changed. I mean there is different
- 1:20:36pavements. And I can see that because
- 1:20:38imagine you're on a, on a, on a tow guy.
- 1:20:40Yeah, a mountain Rd. Yeah, they don't want people to
- 1:20:43fly off they. Don't want people to fly off, so
- 1:20:45I guess they may treat this asphalt.
- 1:20:48So because you're on an embankment is pretty much.
- 1:20:50Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never thought about it.
- 1:20:52That's. Flat if you I mean it looks flat
- 1:20:54on video, but like when you're there like you're.
- 1:20:56I'm just assuming the municipality is out to get me.
- 1:20:58So that road is bad for a. Real.
- 1:21:00I've only seen like I've only seen like different color
- 1:21:03pavement and usually that means it's gripier.
- 1:21:06Yeah, like there was turns and well, there's turns around here
- 1:21:11that oh the. Red.
- 1:21:12The red. Shit, yeah.
- 1:21:13And it's that you're like, that's a dangerous turn that.
- 1:21:15Makes my car feel like shit if I'm drifting on it.
- 1:21:18You ever drift on it? I don't know.
- 1:21:19It's feels like shit. It it, it sounds bad.
- 1:21:23It's like and then you're. Like it's probably.
- 1:21:25Just grip it's. Trying to.
- 1:21:26It's trying to. Fight like and then you just get
- 1:21:28off of it and then it's just good.
- 1:21:30Yeah, You know what we should do?
- 1:21:31We should, we should go to like those little like small towns,
- 1:21:34like small town America and like just like rent out one of those
- 1:21:39towns that are like abandoned and then just shred that.
- 1:21:43Just rent it out. I don't.
- 1:21:44Yeah, or like. It's called Detroit.
- 1:21:46Does that work like that and? Well, they did in Detroit,
- 1:21:49didn't they? Do something?
- 1:21:50You guys just in troll. Yeah, they're like, yeah, just
- 1:21:52come in and shred. Can you Google what is that word
- 1:21:55that you just started? Centralia, I don't think they
- 1:21:57allowed us to. Is that that shit in PA?
- 1:21:59Yeah, the roads are fucked up though.
- 1:22:01The roads are fucked up now that's.
- 1:22:02That tunnel of shit, that long thing.
- 1:22:04There's a fire burning underneath the ground.
- 1:22:06Yeah, constantly. No.
- 1:22:07You know what you can do there? We can go off road in there.
- 1:22:10You want to go? I guess that'd be so fun.
- 1:22:13You could probably on road over there and it'd be just as bad.
- 1:22:16I think the roads are fucked. Yeah, the roads are pretty
- 1:22:18fucked. And you might just fall into a
- 1:22:19pit that's hell. It's just that's it, straight to
- 1:22:22hell. All right, I'm going.
- 1:22:23But there has to be other places like like I think there's a
- 1:22:25place over in Ohio called the Danger Zone where it's like some
- 1:22:28sort of like airfield type place that I saw people drift out.
- 1:22:31Like, I mean, talk about airfields, there's probably a
- 1:22:33million places in the desert. Yeah, so I'm saying.
- 1:22:36But that's like desert shit. You know, where I want to like,
- 1:22:41I mean, we always talk about like, you know, where no one
- 1:22:46talks about that. I kind of want to see if there's
- 1:22:48any place we could drift down there, the swamps like the
- 1:22:51Bayou. Like fucking you.
- 1:22:54Know what I'm saying? Like think about not the pine
- 1:22:57bears, not the pine, no, I'll talk about Louisiana like, you
- 1:22:59know, alligator I am. Think about it though.
- 1:23:01Think about. It that could be cool.
- 1:23:03Think about it though, like you're in the swamp and like
- 1:23:05obviously there's roads down there, but what if there is
- 1:23:07windy roads down there? But just if you go off, it's
- 1:23:10that's it. It's alligator.
- 1:23:13That's it, you're getting. Eaten yo.
- 1:23:14But then you let's say you see a video of someone who gets to the
- 1:23:18other side and doesn't fall in. Tell me that's.
- 1:23:21Not bad. Not yet.
- 1:23:22So I've gone down this rabbit hole before, but with the state
- 1:23:25of Florida because for some reason, yeah.
- 1:23:29But Florida has it. But I mean like Louisiana.
- 1:23:31Don't, no, but a state's so large all they got is skid pads.
- 1:23:34There's like 17. I was about to say.
- 1:23:35Florida's had enough time. Don't even give them I.
- 1:23:38Don't get it though because I know tons.
- 1:23:40Of I don't know what they're doing, there's a.
- 1:23:42Crazy awesome community. There was a.
- 1:23:43Great opportunity. And then they came out with
- 1:23:45another one and I was like. Another parking lot.
- 1:23:48Dude, yeah, another huge skid pad.
- 1:23:51I went. What the fuck?
- 1:23:52I went down a rabbit hole, OK, didn't take me long.
- 1:23:57Abandoned go Kart tracks because in the in the 90s I was like 6
- 1:24:04or 7. So yeah, I just felt weird to
- 1:24:07say in the 90s or in 2001 there was a go Kart track.
- 1:24:14It's. A good old day, the glory days.
- 1:24:15Yeah, he was talking about 2020 years and there was a go Kart
- 1:24:18track, open wheel. My parents have this somewhere
- 1:24:21in a photo album, open wheel. The track is huge, would
- 1:24:26absolutely satisfy a car like in terms of width and like how the
- 1:24:31turns looked. It was in Florida and to me I'm
- 1:24:35like. Where is it?
- 1:24:37Fuck if I fuck if I know that I've been trying to find it.
- 1:24:39So my first instinct was abandoned go Kart tracks,
- 1:24:43because what do they do in Japan?
- 1:24:44It's every sportsline, Yamanashi, all that shit.
- 1:24:46Go Kart tracks, Suzuko or whatever.
- 1:24:50So I typed in abandoned go Kart tracks.
- 1:24:51You'll find them, and they're just like in the woods.
- 1:24:55They're just waiting. They're no, no, they are a part
- 1:24:59of the woods now, like you'll see on the Google Maps.
- 1:25:02Well, we can just cut some trees down.
- 1:25:03It's like Nazareth. It's not.
- 1:25:05Like that anymore, like Nazareth used to be a racetrack in PA and
- 1:25:09like that's gone, but it's like if you look at it 30 years ago,
- 1:25:13I think it was still around or more than that or something
- 1:25:15like. That like it's just it's just
- 1:25:16grown it's and it sucks because I feel like just.
- 1:25:19Cut the trees. I repave it.
- 1:25:20I feel like it. Who?
- 1:25:21Knows what it is. I don't know if it's like a
- 1:25:22sound ordinance thing like every state has their own like stupid
- 1:25:26twisted. Why enclosed but like or foot
- 1:25:29traffic purely like you know, you had to get but I feel like
- 1:25:32drifting was a little was a little late for those tracks
- 1:25:38because if it was like a. Few years ago about to create
- 1:25:40them because of drifting. Yeah, maybe, but they're getting
- 1:25:44rid of they're getting rid of the what do you call in Florida
- 1:25:46right now, bro? The what?
- 1:25:47Baruso or like Palm? Springs Palm Beach, yeah,
- 1:25:51they're getting rid of that went for sale.
- 1:25:53So like, and that is the second. Can you can you Google that?
- 1:25:55Palm Beach I I? Drifted that years and years and
- 1:26:01years ago when they had like the Novi qualifier.
- 1:26:04The Novi qualifier. This this one, this one for
- 1:26:07sale. There it is listed for sale
- 1:26:09Motor authority. You might click.
- 1:26:10On that link. Oh, sick.
- 1:26:12There's a. No, no, no.
- 1:26:13Look, look in it. Look in it.
- 1:26:15You see how there's a secondary little?
- 1:26:17Yo, there's your swamp right there, Reese and.
- 1:26:19Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What?
- 1:26:21The hell? Oh yeah, they got bought out.
- 1:26:23Oh. How do we see the picture?
- 1:26:25Let me go somewhere else. Like the images?
- 1:26:29Oh yeah, here we go. Look, Frankie.
- 1:26:31Look, so you look at that go Kart track earlier.
- 1:26:33Oh nice, still flat as fucking boring.
- 1:26:35It would be fun as fuck. Yeah, dude.
- 1:26:37But that's all you're going to get in Florida, so at least
- 1:26:39that's better than the that's. What I'm saying, I think the one
- 1:26:41place that we haven't gone to are we haven't done.
- 1:26:43Like, I just don't think anybody's going to Louisiana.
- 1:26:45Like what if there's some cool ass like dude?
- 1:26:47That's track on the left. Yeah, that track on the left.
- 1:26:51Is. Like right here.
- 1:26:53Why is no one like drifting this shit?
- 1:26:57Did they drift it at one point? Yeah, what?
- 1:26:59I guess so. Did you drift, Reese?
- 1:27:01I don't know which one they did. It was so long ago.
- 1:27:05It was a while ago. Dude that.
- 1:27:08Is that looks like a runway. That would be a riot dude.
- 1:27:11Imagine there. Was like barrows in the middle
- 1:27:13where you had a manji that's like goes back then where
- 1:27:15they're like oh you need you to manji around.
- 1:27:17Because it goes back then, Manji was OK.
- 1:27:19We have a Barrow here, just make sure you manji around it.
- 1:27:21Dude, that end corner right there, that little, the little
- 1:27:25yeah, pause. I'm a fucking.
- 1:27:28Let's see. Look, here's a track.
- 1:27:30But then it I mean, I guess it's too much money to maintain take.
- 1:27:34Somebody and I don't. Know well they got a drag strip
- 1:27:36too Sick. I didn't notice that.
- 1:27:37Yeah, right on the out. Fuck that.
- 1:27:40Look, it's E town but Florida. Yeah, and no one wants it, I
- 1:27:44guess. No.
- 1:27:45That's weird. How much is it?
- 1:27:4720 bucks. I sold.
- 1:27:50I mean someone. Should do it.
- 1:27:52I mean, I get it I guess. How much is?
- 1:27:53It Adam LZ should buy that shit I.
- 1:27:55I get it. Like people go to the skip house
- 1:27:57because like they won't break anything, I guess.
- 1:27:58Like, I don't know, no. Every day it looks like they're
- 1:28:02not in. Florida, they go there because
- 1:28:03there's nowhere to go. Yeah, Yeah, it's true.
- 1:28:07That's very true. I don't think those.
- 1:28:09Like I know we get on Florida's case, but like I I feel bad for
- 1:28:12them. What I'm?
- 1:28:14Serious, they don't have a place to go.
- 1:28:17They have what the compound that they illegally have to go shred.
- 1:28:20Yeah, that's that's. Kind of sick.
- 1:28:22I think that's kind of a dub now too though.
- 1:28:25Really got blown up for so many every.
- 1:28:28Everybody knows. About yeah, but still like,
- 1:28:30that's all they got. So I, I right, I, I feel kind of
- 1:28:34bad. Like it's like, you know, and
- 1:28:36then this one place that just opened up.
- 1:28:38I know. And like, they were like, Nah, I
- 1:28:40was just gonna whisk a pad and. Something I know, but.
- 1:28:45But it's like, you know, when you look at the numbers.
- 1:28:47Yeah, 'cause you could use a skid pad for other things.
- 1:28:51My takeovers mainly. Maybe you're freestyle.
- 1:28:55Freestyle drifting. I think the you should.
- 1:28:57Have a square guy but then like make something.
- 1:29:00Else I think the issue is is that there's just so many
- 1:29:04drifting events that it's really hard for you to have like a
- 1:29:07specialty oriented track. Like it's just it's hard.
- 1:29:11I mean, honestly, like I feel like even if we did have like an
- 1:29:14abishu here where it was open all the time, it's E town.
- 1:29:18We would think you exactly you would think it would work.
- 1:29:21I. Get but it's.
- 1:29:22Literally E town, you know? I love E town.
- 1:29:24Yeah, but we're talking a place like Abishu that has like a toga
- 1:29:27track that has this, that has that.
- 1:29:28It would be the shit for a little bit, but I mean, but it
- 1:29:31would. Go out of business.
- 1:29:32Right away. Eventually it would, I think.
- 1:29:34So right away, you know? No one would support it, no man.
- 1:29:36No one would support it. We would.
- 1:29:38It's all hot. T town would just you just drive
- 1:29:41down there and just hop on. What like a toga if they?
- 1:29:45Had to like it wasn't like race it was.
- 1:29:46Like a pay as you. Yeah.
- 1:29:48Like you get, you go down there and you can either drive this
- 1:29:51track, you can drive this track, you can drive that track.
- 1:29:53Oh, like it was just open for for business like and we're
- 1:29:56open. I wanted to.
- 1:29:57I wonder. I mean, I think it's like, all
- 1:29:59right, So like, because a lot of people like, how come I can't be
- 1:30:02that way? And my argument is like,
- 1:30:05Americans have no etiquette. True, because everybody.
- 1:30:08'S like God does this. Sir.
- 1:30:10Well, I mean like, yo, you can do it in Japan, but I think it's
- 1:30:12because of Japan. Everyone has like a decent like
- 1:30:15yo, we we all have to be decent. We all have to be, you know what
- 1:30:18I'm saying? Like, but in America, in in the
- 1:30:21tri-state area, they're not going to be.
- 1:30:24You're going to have to hire a lot of people.
- 1:30:25Yeah, there's going to have to be security, yeah.
- 1:30:27It's going to be full time, multiple people on every course
- 1:30:30we. Can't just cut people loose here
- 1:30:32like they cut people loose out there.
- 1:30:33Like, again, I think over there there is a certain threshold of
- 1:30:36like of etiquette, see that they have in those countries.
- 1:30:41But in America, like we can't, we can't, you can't give us
- 1:30:44that. Someone's going to get sued and
- 1:30:45then that's it. I had this conversation with
- 1:30:49somebody recently. I don't know if it was also
- 1:30:51Nick. These these phone calls I have
- 1:30:53with Nick are long. They're.
- 1:30:55Cool the. Front Street, Nick.
- 1:30:57Dude, I don't fucking guy. That's my guy.
- 1:31:01That's my guy. That's so funny.
- 1:31:02Bro, that's my guy, yo. He was telling me he's like, I
- 1:31:05fuck with Reese, bro. I'm like, yeah, we haven't won
- 1:31:07the pod, but we was talking and I was like, what?
- 1:31:14Do you call him A? Few.
- 1:31:15Don He's a Dawn. That's a Don of Staten.
- 1:31:18Island he reminds me of like the dude that's always with Action
- 1:31:21Bronson big body Biss. Oh yeah, best.
- 1:31:25Oh my God. I.
- 1:31:25Think. They got to know.
- 1:31:27Like his energy? Yeah, they got to know each
- 1:31:29other. There's no way.
- 1:31:30You're just like, what's up? He's like, oh, you doing?
- 1:31:32I'm like, yeah, that's what's up, dude.
- 1:31:35Movie but. No, when I when I was talking to
- 1:31:36him, I was like, wouldn't it be sick if E town where the shop is
- 1:31:41right? Everything back there was
- 1:31:43cleared and it was like people from around the world who want
- 1:31:46to have a car here buy a car in the tri-state area.
- 1:31:49We have an abundance of them. You fucking pick one, buy it,
- 1:31:52have it there. There's a level of service where
- 1:31:56we can maintain it. Rizzo would come grab it.
- 1:31:58Drop it off a spot for the car too here.
- 1:32:00We would work on it and then when they come here, they want
- 1:32:03to drive it. There's an agreement.
- 1:32:05Somebody's going to make sure that that car is working,
- 1:32:07driving Goodwill tech it, boom. You want to schedule a East
- 1:32:09Coast Drift school, private day, boom, you're out.
- 1:32:12But everybody gets paid. You put the car back, we take
- 1:32:15care of it, we get paid. Chris gets paid for all that.
- 1:32:18That's kind of what we're thinking.
- 1:32:19That's what I wish would be a thing.
- 1:32:22I think it's more so like that someone has to like do that,
- 1:32:27just do it just kind of like the Drift school thing.
- 1:32:29Like years ago, it was like there was like 2.
- 1:32:32And then it's like, you know what I mean?
- 1:32:34Because then you're like, all right, so I just got to do XY
- 1:32:36and Z. Yeah.
- 1:32:38I think we are at the point where you could maybe do that,
- 1:32:40like, but you also just have to make sure that there's always
- 1:32:44going to be a steady influx of like, people coming in to do
- 1:32:47that, you know what I mean? Like it's kind of like where I'm
- 1:32:51at, where at the school, it's like, I could expand, but it's
- 1:32:53like then you have to make sure. Like if I end up getting like an
- 1:32:55instructor at my school, like now I have to make sure like,
- 1:32:59just like you have an employee, you have to make sure there's
- 1:33:01work, enough work to keep it going and then keep that flow
- 1:33:03consistent. The thing for me is I just watch
- 1:33:07so many of my friends buy a car in Japan from somebody they
- 1:33:13don't even know. They buy it, They coordinate it.
- 1:33:16That guy coordinates whatever they need to do on that end.
- 1:33:19They get the car to the track, to the shot, whatever.
- 1:33:22They fly there and it works and. I'm willing to do that for
- 1:33:27Japanese drivers, but you? But you just said it.
- 1:33:30You just said in Japan, in Japan.
- 1:33:32So there is a nostalgia I think that goes along with doing it,
- 1:33:35all of that. And it's like a whole, it's an
- 1:33:37experience. But like, you know, now do I
- 1:33:40think foreigners would like to have the same experience in
- 1:33:43America? Sure.
- 1:33:45But in order for you to get the same type of etiquette, yeah,
- 1:33:49like in America, there's a price attached, attached to it for
- 1:33:52sure. Where over there, it's just
- 1:33:54common courtesy for some of these people for, you know, I'm
- 1:33:56not saying no one has a bad experience, but from the most
- 1:33:59part, we hear about how everybody's really like, really
- 1:34:02good polite, there's really good etiquettes, just common decency.
- 1:34:06So, like, I would like to think that's what it is.
- 1:34:08But I mean, like we don't like, let's face it, we don't have
- 1:34:10that here. We don't, and that's.
- 1:34:13Shutting down my operation? No, no.
- 1:34:15I mean. No, I'm not.
- 1:34:16I'm not you. Just you.
- 1:34:18Can't do it. I'm not.
- 1:34:19They're way. They're way nicer over there,
- 1:34:21I'll tell you that. I'm not.
- 1:34:22Disagreeing the. Slightest I'd be no, but I said
- 1:34:25if you do it, there has to be a price attached to it.
- 1:34:27So like if you were to do it in order for you to have the same
- 1:34:30attention. 100 bucks. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:34:32And there needs to be a a price attached to that that makes you
- 1:34:36get the same type of service that you're going to get.
- 1:34:38It's going to be somewhat of a premium because like you can't
- 1:34:43really do that anywhere else. We.
- 1:34:44Got to maintain the cars. We got a storm here.
- 1:34:47We got to make sure they're still running.
- 1:34:48Good luck trying to get in the E town at night, you're fucked.
- 1:34:51Yeah. Danny's going to get your ass.
- 1:34:54I think, I think it can be done. I think, man, I just there's
- 1:34:59just so many events. You just, I wish I just knew
- 1:35:01like how long, much longer like this wave, because the wave is
- 1:35:04so big right now. The wave has always been.
- 1:35:06Growing What's going to happen? Though but it's not.
- 1:35:08It's going to stop. Where's it going to crash?
- 1:35:10When's it going to crash? What's not going to crash, dude?
- 1:35:12That's it. I don't want it to.
- 1:35:14We're here. I know.
- 1:35:16This is it. You know how you just get real
- 1:35:18comfortable and you're just like, this is really great.
- 1:35:20How long? But I don't want to.
- 1:35:21Get caught lacking. I don't want to get caught
- 1:35:23lacking. Yeah, I don't want to get caught
- 1:35:24lacking either. But you know, I don't want to
- 1:35:26get. You you guys, I have a fucking
- 1:35:29shot built on this shit. You can fuck you gotta.
- 1:35:32You can pivot you. Pivot.
- 1:35:34We all have Korean. I'm literally fucked.
- 1:35:37And I don't give a damn. I think, dude, I think, like I
- 1:35:39said, how long has drag racing been cool in America?
- 1:35:42100 years. That's true.
- 1:35:44You can't just, like, retire. We're good.
- 1:35:46We're started, We're good. I think we're good.
- 1:35:48Dude, yeah, we're good. At least our generation.
- 1:35:49No, you know what? EPA comes in and that's.
- 1:35:52Why I'm scared? That's why I'm.
- 1:35:53Scared. Our sport fucking horrible for
- 1:35:59the environment. Well, yeah, everything.
- 1:36:01I don't like your attitude. Everything.
- 1:36:03Yeah, I really like that. My sisters is an
- 1:36:05environmentalist. But didn't they say like what?
- 1:36:08Didn't they say the white smoke from the tires isn't like really
- 1:36:10bad because it's just like evaporation of like water or
- 1:36:13something like that? Sure, that's the most info I've
- 1:36:16got you. Ever smell that?
- 1:36:18No, no, I'm good. It just smells like something
- 1:36:20that shouldn't be ingested. I'm just going to do what
- 1:36:23everybody else does. I'll go and Reddit and then
- 1:36:24whatever agrees with what I'm thinking.
- 1:36:26Then that's it. I'm just taking that.
- 1:36:28OK. No, I mean I it's definitely not
- 1:36:32good for the environment, but neither are fucking batteries
- 1:36:34and Teslas, so. Look what's better, drifting
- 1:36:37tires and it burns up white or burning them when they burn up
- 1:36:40black. What?
- 1:36:42What is the fucking difference? Actually shiver.
- 1:36:45Yeah, that's right. It is when we look real dumb.
- 1:36:48Talk about looking underneath your Snapple cap now,
- 1:36:50motherfucker. Malcolm, can you what's?
- 1:36:52That you. Fucking no no, but it sounded
- 1:36:54good. I added it in.
- 1:36:54There oh. Come on, Malcolm, what is the
- 1:36:56difference? So, well, what you're looking?
- 1:36:58No, I don't fucking. OK, well, the tire is melting
- 1:37:01when it's burning. Well, isn't it melting when
- 1:37:03we're burning when we're going? Yes.
- 1:37:05The same. I think, I think when what we're
- 1:37:07doing is it's, it's, it's tearing it.
- 1:37:11Yeah, but there's, but there's white smoke.
- 1:37:13It's still. So what's the difference between
- 1:37:14the white smoke? Have you ever touched a tire?
- 1:37:17Right. So what's the difference between
- 1:37:18the white smoke and the black smoke?
- 1:37:20You light it on fire and it and it's black smoke, only you drift
- 1:37:24it and it's white smoke. Look, I don't know sometimes.
- 1:37:27You burn wood is white smoke and sometimes it burns black well.
- 1:37:30Because of the condensation, so it has.
- 1:37:31Something to do with? Water.
- 1:37:33I have no idea. And someone with a PhD.
- 1:37:37Somebody someone's happened these.
- 1:37:39Guys are fucking dumb. Why am I even a legend of this
- 1:37:42good? Go listen.
- 1:37:42There's probably someone like. I know the answer.
- 1:37:44Yeah, they know the answer. So bad they're like, there's
- 1:37:47gotta. Be one, Why can't they say?
- 1:37:49It some dude in the middle of nowhere, like in a field right
- 1:37:52now. There's one chemist listening to
- 1:37:53this and he's like, come on, guys.
- 1:37:55It's simple, OK, OK. He has an E30.
- 1:37:58It'll never know. I'll.
- 1:38:01Never. I'll never stop.
- 1:38:03I've I've found the way of driving that I like, which
- 1:38:08there's people that like to drive front wheel drive, 4 wheel
- 1:38:10drive, whatever. OK, I've found the way that I
- 1:38:12like if they make us drive just electric.
- 1:38:17I'm not drifting. You are lying if you don't think
- 1:38:20the first thing I'm doing. Oh.
- 1:38:23That's good for you. I'm not.
- 1:38:24Doing that, that's the first thing I'm going to try.
- 1:38:26I'm going to bitch about it the entire.
- 1:38:27Yeah, I'm not doing that shit. I would have.
- 1:38:29To find a way to like it. I'm going to kick and scream and
- 1:38:31just pull the old man card. I'll keep the shop open and
- 1:38:34we'll change batteries. Like it was better back in our
- 1:38:36day when there was petrol. I would I would have to remember
- 1:38:39that and be like go to the garage.
- 1:38:43Open I think. I think power by Max is is.
- 1:38:45That's why that what they're. Doing ambo stuff to the Tesla's
- 1:38:49and stuff like that like that. That's what made me think of it.
- 1:38:50They were drifting the hell it looked you.
- 1:38:52Said power by Max is doing this. Yeah, part shop Max Power by
- 1:38:56Max. Did you slap the shit out of
- 1:38:57Tommy? Because that's the.
- 1:38:59What? Is that your friend Tesla's?
- 1:39:01Is that your boy dog? 'S wack.
- 1:39:02He's out there. It's on YouTube, do you want to
- 1:39:04see a video? Yeah, sure.
- 1:39:05It's a market, Yeah. Dude, yeah, they're smart.
- 1:39:08Is that your boy? Because they're really smart for
- 1:39:10that. Me and Tommy.
- 1:39:11I'm hoping events, I'm hoping eventually like the the Tesla's
- 1:39:14or whatever ends up becoming like the the RC cars or
- 1:39:17something. And I thought you were about to
- 1:39:19hate on him. I was like.
- 1:39:20I am hating on him I. Know why?
- 1:39:21Why know it's? We are.
- 1:39:23We like cars, so like, it's hard.
- 1:39:24There's no way he actually likes is he's just like, this is a
- 1:39:26good opportunity. He seems like a good he's.
- 1:39:30Got to be that. If he runs parts by Max I'm
- 1:39:32sure. There's good reasoning bro.
- 1:39:35Is that him? This is for real right now.
- 1:39:38No, it's wait, no. It's Oh my.
- 1:39:40God, they're really going in hard with this shit.
- 1:39:43Yeah, they're really doing it, dude.
- 1:39:45A Hydro. Did I click one?
- 1:39:47No, I mean. Who do you think has I?
- 1:39:48Want to see it just drift? Off dude or nothing?
- 1:39:50Do they have one where it's drifting Malcolm?
- 1:39:53Oh my God, are they really? Doing There it is.
- 1:39:55There it is. There it is.
- 1:39:56They're really doing that, that whatever clip that one is where
- 1:39:58it's drifting at Grange. Yeah.
- 1:40:01Driftable. Yeah, There we go.
- 1:40:04Isn't that weird? It's just.
- 1:40:06Going to sound really bad. It's going to sound.
- 1:40:10Like it's going. To sound like the worst part.
- 1:40:12I want it to sound like pirate wheels.
- 1:40:16Oh whoa this is so wild. Oh damn, what the fuck?
- 1:40:22So it does it disengage the drivetron?
- 1:40:25Let's be honest, that thing's a nardy wheel away from being OK,
- 1:40:28no? Not too many, but if that's what
- 1:40:30you're into, look. At Frankie is a drift thing.
- 1:40:33It's literally a three wheel drive car.
- 1:40:34Why wouldn't we try to drift? It it doesn't sound cool, look
- 1:40:37cool, act cool. Would you prefer smell cool?
- 1:40:39Would you prefer a VQ? Yes, damn.
- 1:40:43One for the VQ, I think it's on like gram lights on the front
- 1:40:46too. Look, you'll have to convince
- 1:40:47me. Let's go out there, do a
- 1:40:48podcast, and we'll go drifting. Oh, look at that.
- 1:40:51What the? Fuck, this is something else.
- 1:40:54Oh, get the hell. Out there.
- 1:40:55I mean, think about it. That's fitting the Bill Gates
- 1:40:57demographic. What is the Bill Gates
- 1:41:00demographic? People that look like that dude,
- 1:41:02just that's what. They're now that is.
- 1:41:04Right, that's that's somebody who is they probably hear
- 1:41:08thought they're they're they're definitely.
- 1:41:10I mean, someone's got to do it. They're putting their thought
- 1:41:13forward for the sport in a good way.
- 1:41:16And then you have people like us who are like, ah, we hate it.
- 1:41:18We want the sport to be pure. We're the reason why this sport
- 1:41:21ain't going to grow. That's what that is.
- 1:41:23Whatever, whatever. You got we need people like you
- 1:41:27that do all that kumbaya shit just like you need people like
- 1:41:30us to be like fuck that. That shit's cool.
- 1:41:32That's exactly. Right.
- 1:41:34What's the people like complaining about?
- 1:41:36They're like, oh, do you think the drift scene is negative?
- 1:41:41Everyone's always bringing this up.
- 1:41:43It's. It's because, yo, it's just
- 1:41:44America's really big and like, you know, like we can't act the
- 1:41:49way we act in certain parts of the country.
- 1:41:51People are always like, we always get a question.
- 1:41:53Sometimes we get questions there like how do you feel about the
- 1:41:55culture and this and that. And I'm like, dude, I don't give
- 1:41:58a fuck about any of that shit. And.
- 1:42:00It's good. I think that's like, again, that
- 1:42:03little Dome we keep talking about.
- 1:42:05I think it's Instagram. Everyone's just living on
- 1:42:07Instagram. They're like, dude, these people
- 1:42:08are mean. It's like I.
- 1:42:10Told I told dudes straight up I'm like, like, do you have a
- 1:42:12car? They're like, yeah, car cool.
- 1:42:14Like you should go out and hang out with your friends.
- 1:42:16Like yeah, me chicks like yo like the real shit dude, go out
- 1:42:21there. It's just, you know, like go
- 1:42:23through, you need, you need to go through all of that.
- 1:42:26Like there's, there's like a, a, there's like a, a certain, I
- 1:42:32don't know, like a group of people or a certain demographic
- 1:42:36where they don't have access to things like that.
- 1:42:39Like you can't just drive an hour and blow through like 17
- 1:42:44towns. Yeah, we do live in a good.
- 1:42:45Area and then in those 17, in those seventeen towns, there's
- 1:42:49at least one person who fucks with you in.
- 1:42:54That 17 obviously if you're like, if you're in middle
- 1:42:56America and you're the only person that's doing drifting in
- 1:42:59your town, obviously what we're saying doesn't relate to you and
- 1:43:03like you have to go about it a more creative way, you know, to
- 1:43:06try to get that. But I mean.
- 1:43:07You're going to have to move. For the most part, yeah, you're
- 1:43:09going to have to move. This is what you really want to
- 1:43:11do, which, you know, lines up with a lot of like, how many
- 1:43:13times have you heard Scott, I'm going to move to California.
- 1:43:15Yeah. Or you know, Or you're.
- 1:43:17Just going to be the cool guy in that area.
- 1:43:19That's yeah. And that's cool.
- 1:43:20You're the fucking cool guy. You're the guy.
- 1:43:22That's cool, you know. Or girl.
- 1:43:25Know the bar is maybe not, you know, like.
- 1:43:29But you're there to. But you're there.
- 1:43:30You're there to set it. That's what.
- 1:43:32That's why it's like. But you, the whole point is you
- 1:43:35need a community, you need friends.
- 1:43:36But I don't think there's negativity.
- 1:43:37I just think, again, I, I think the community has just grown.
- 1:43:42And when it grows, you're going to have a lot more different
- 1:43:44personalities. Some people that don't like, you
- 1:43:48know, there's a lot of people from the East Coast that aren't
- 1:43:49like us, that are very polite, that are like.
- 1:43:52Where are those? People, you know, I mean, I
- 1:43:54don't know, I don't really talk to them, but I mean, like,
- 1:43:56there's people like that that exist.
- 1:43:57I bring them I. Bring them to time every time
- 1:44:01because now now y'all are really good friends.
- 1:44:04But we have this friend of ours who's on Road star Justin.
- 1:44:09Frankie was so fucking. Why is he so nice?
- 1:44:13Bro, he's just got. He's got to understand this.
- 1:44:15Completely. He's got to be up to something,
- 1:44:17dude. You know.
- 1:44:18What you mean? But he's just genuinely one of
- 1:44:20the nicest people. And they're like, too nice.
- 1:44:23You think they're like? Even when no one's looking,
- 1:44:26they're nice. That's the kind of nice Jason.
- 1:44:28You just said it right there. You think they're fucking you?
- 1:44:30Think you're fucking with you? That's how nice they are.
- 1:44:32Yeah, yeah. I it took me like 4 times
- 1:44:34meeting Justin before I was like you know what dude?
- 1:44:36You're you're not right, guy. That's an insane.
- 1:44:38'Cause you're like, what aim are you wearing?
- 1:44:39Yeah, I'm like, literally, that's what I was.
- 1:44:42Saying. I was like, what is he trying to
- 1:44:45do? And then I was like, oh, he's
- 1:44:46just a good person. That's weird.
- 1:44:48You're like, no you're not. Yo, you ever?
- 1:44:50Oh well, you don't. And then I even found out he's
- 1:44:51from California. But I was like, now it makes
- 1:44:53sense and it's true 'cause like when I was in, you know, when I
- 1:44:56was in California for a little bit, I met people like that when
- 1:45:00I was in Washington state or in Portland area in the Vancouver
- 1:45:05little section. Like there's just people that
- 1:45:07are different, you know what I mean?
- 1:45:08It's cool, you know, it's, it's different for me because the way
- 1:45:12I joke around with people that I'm cool with is different than
- 1:45:15yeah, dude, than that. Totally.
- 1:45:17There's nothing wrong with that, you know, And when you think
- 1:45:20about it, like if you didn't know any better, you would think
- 1:45:24we hated each other. Yeah.
- 1:45:26So I, I can kind of see how like someone from Arizona or like
- 1:45:28Utah or like wherever over there, they're just kind of
- 1:45:31like, so you guys cool. No, it's, it's like I feel like
- 1:45:34it's AI want people to remember sometimes.
- 1:45:40And I've and this attitude of mine has changed over the years
- 1:45:43we've had this podcast. We've seen you grow.
- 1:45:47I've been fucking. We've seen him grow over the
- 1:45:48years. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:45:50Grove hate. OK, like not the the the the
- 1:45:56person that's complaining and asking about the industry or the
- 1:45:59drift. Scene.
- 1:46:01Not everyone is your friend. And like, I mean that in the
- 1:46:06best way possible. Because if if this is going to
- 1:46:11sound so fucking bad, if you're giving your love out to
- 1:46:16everybody, then your love means nothing.
- 1:46:19Damn. You know what I mean?
- 1:46:21Yo, not for nothing. Bars, bars.
- 1:46:25That was. D all day, but no really though.
- 1:46:28What the fuck are you talking about if you're?
- 1:46:30If you're, if you're, if you're just, if you're just trying to
- 1:46:33be friends with everybody, like every event, every event, you're
- 1:46:36just trying to make friends. Da da da da da, everybody's your
- 1:46:38friend. No matter what all your views,
- 1:46:40you're not going to have a single believe in anything.
- 1:46:42It's going to be hard for you to believe in one thing because
- 1:46:45you're. Letting everybody just.
- 1:46:47I think what you're saying is like, be nice but don't be
- 1:46:50gullible is what you're. Saying, yeah, like still hang
- 1:46:54out with people because you want to hang out with them, not
- 1:46:56because they're the only people you want to hang out with or
- 1:46:58that you can hang out with because just because that person
- 1:47:02likes one thing, you like the other.
- 1:47:05It's. Like what I said before, life is
- 1:47:07perspective. So I mean, like, for instance,
- 1:47:10I, my brother like his, he's very content with just watching
- 1:47:14the Eagles and it's his whole thing.
- 1:47:16And they go down there, they do the tailgating.
- 1:47:18Are you a Eagles guy too? I'm from Philadelphia.
- 1:47:20Yeah, I. Mean so you fucking sing the
- 1:47:22song and know whatever. I can spell, yes.
- 1:47:25Some people can't. I know my mayor can't.
- 1:47:28She's a stupid anyway. She's horrible.
- 1:47:33We might have to edit this podcast.
- 1:47:36No, she didn't spell it right and she didn't.
- 1:47:38No, yo, it's not made-up. It's.
- 1:47:40Not made-up, she spelled it incorrectly.
- 1:47:42But this is what I like about Philadelphia.
- 1:47:44Immediately they came out with T-shirts with the incorrect
- 1:47:48spelling and people bought it. Of course, that's the city of
- 1:47:51Hustlers. Growing the economy.
- 1:47:52So what, you're supposed to like, sing?
- 1:47:55I don't know. Anything.
- 1:47:56You're not going to get me to say it, but yeah, you spell it
- 1:47:57out, OK? Like spell out eagles.
- 1:47:59Like chanting A. C.
- 1:48:01TI, Oh and faction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that and.
- 1:48:05She spelt it wrong. Yeah, and stayed with it.
- 1:48:09ESG I think is what she spelled instead of EAG she.
- 1:48:11Said EOE. Yes, yeah.
- 1:48:14I was like, well. She should not be in her
- 1:48:17position of power. It wasn't even that funny, but
- 1:48:22Reese started laughing and I was looking at Reese.
- 1:48:24I just started laughing just immediately like, well, I don't
- 1:48:27know. It wasn't.
- 1:48:28Yeah, it was like she just kept with it and I was like, you
- 1:48:31spelled it wrong, bro, like. That's that's bad.
- 1:48:34Like it's not that long of a word.
- 1:48:37No it isn't dude. It's like everyone.
- 1:48:39It's chanted forever everywhere like.
- 1:48:42The Philly fan base was, I went to school like right across
- 1:48:45that, that bridge there and fucking when they made the Super
- 1:48:49Bowl for the first time. It was.
- 1:48:51Going a long time. Yeah, it was wild.
- 1:48:53The city shut down, dude. The classes, the cops were just
- 1:48:57like, yeah, like. Dude, the classes.
- 1:48:59When they were, when they were riding or whatever.
- 1:49:01Yeah, when they won. When they won.
- 1:49:02When they won, yeah, same thing. But even when they first went
- 1:49:05and everybody was going to go watch them, bro, classes were
- 1:49:07all going on that day. The campus was never so dead.
- 1:49:10I didn't see anybody. They were running buses.
- 1:49:13People were just standing outside.
- 1:49:14To to to Philadelphia and back. Like to to make sure that
- 1:49:17everybody was able to go was fucking wild.
- 1:49:20So I guess that's a big football team.
- 1:49:22Yeah, yeah. Like we're, yeah, we're going to
- 1:49:25the Super Bowl the next weekend. Wait, where is this are?
- 1:49:27You fucking are you really? No, not as in Philadelphia, as
- 1:49:30I'm not going I. Was like what the?
- 1:49:32Fuck. Aren't they?
- 1:49:33I'm trying to be at the school. Where is the Super Bowl this
- 1:49:35year? Somewhere.
- 1:49:37Good. Yeah, I figured that.
- 1:49:39Where is it? I don't know.
- 1:49:39Where is it? Where is it?
- 1:49:42Yo what more of a car guy movement?
- 1:49:44We all genuinely do not know where the screw control is at.
- 1:49:47It's. In California.
- 1:49:48Sunday I thought it was a night that's it's OK, I had no.
- 1:49:51Idea that I thought for some reason I heard it was.
- 1:49:53It's the Eagles, and like Chiefs, the Chiefs.
- 1:49:56New Orleans New. Orleans.
- 1:49:57Holy shit I got that. Nice.
- 1:49:59Why did I? Say because.
- 1:50:01The inside because. We were talking about Louisiana
- 1:50:03and then drifting in the Bayou full circle.
- 1:50:07I thought you were going to bring up your brother.
- 1:50:08Tristan in the Bayou, bro. That's going to be a thing one
- 1:50:11day. Could you imagine like first
- 1:50:13drift? Team out of there Bayou brigade
- 1:50:15slot sliding Bayou Bayou to Bayou brigade I like.
- 1:50:20That I see what the Bayou Brigade Bayou.
- 1:50:24Brigade because there was a drift.
- 1:50:25There was a drift of a team that was drift for good.
- 1:50:27Yeah, but whatever. Bayou Brigade is better.
- 1:50:31Bayou Brigade sounds fired. Yeah.
- 1:50:33Yeah, but Malcolm? We can't, I mean, but they have
- 1:50:35to talk. They have to talk that one get
- 1:50:37it? Could you imagine if you get a
- 1:50:39whole bunch of swamp people that are like swamp people?
- 1:50:41Like first of all. I should be not gonna be happy.
- 1:50:45Yo, because the the TV show Swamp People, they're from down
- 1:50:48there from the Bayou. Is that a show?
- 1:50:50That's a show. From the Bayou.
- 1:50:52Yeah, check on this can. You Fact Check.
- 1:50:55This man no, it's from the show there's that's a show I'll.
- 1:50:57Fucking watch the swamp. People.
- 1:50:59Yo, I promise you do. Need your own ideas?
- 1:51:01I think ever to watch. But yeah, Oh my God, it's a
- 1:51:04show. It's a show.
- 1:51:05That guy sounds exactly like that.
- 1:51:06Looks. Like he sounds.
- 1:51:07Yeah, exactly, exactly. Literally the way he looks is
- 1:51:11how he. Sounds well, I'm just trying to
- 1:51:12think of the guy from the water Boy.
- 1:51:14You know the guy from the water boy.
- 1:51:16You like to be homo naked. You like to see homo?
- 1:51:18Naked. Look at that.
- 1:51:19That guy. Yeah, that is like that from the
- 1:51:21movie. That guy.
- 1:51:22That could be you, Carl. That guy rides a fat Bob.
- 1:51:26Harley. 100 percent, 1000%. Even though.
- 1:51:29The fat Bob is ugly. Is it one of those hover things
- 1:51:32with the fan on it? Was it called?
- 1:51:34Such a fan boat fan, boat fan. Boat I could see Carl whipping.
- 1:51:38I went to New Orleans a few times.
- 1:51:40Yeah, yeah. Fucking I went there once, I
- 1:51:42loved it. I, I I.
- 1:51:43Imagine imagine meeting a drift team that had good looking cars
- 1:51:47not from the Bayou. Not happening fire.
- 1:51:50Prove me wrong. They come, you know, but imagine
- 1:51:52how hard would that be they come out.
- 1:51:54Those people. Yo that.
- 1:51:56Is crazy. But I'm that's what I'm saying.
- 1:51:59That's how. Hard it is.
- 1:51:59No, that's what that's not. What I'm saying is crazy.
- 1:52:02What I'm saying is crazy is that Frankie is so shocked that that
- 1:52:06would be impossible. The swamp people.
- 1:52:09You never know, dude. You never.
- 1:52:10Know you'll learn a thing or two from this people.
- 1:52:12What? If they come out with like like
- 1:52:15some like old school over. Yeah, dude, I would be so
- 1:52:17fucking interested in what they're building.
- 1:52:19What of? Course you would you close.
- 1:52:21You close minded? Fuck, have a well what is it a
- 1:52:24squirrel burger or something? I don't know.
- 1:52:26I don't know. Maybe.
- 1:52:27Maybe not that I'll have. Maybe.
- 1:52:29I've had Gator before. You've had some rice.
- 1:52:31I haven't had it. I've had Gator before, or at
- 1:52:32least they said I still. Like it before?
- 1:52:34But it's like chicken, isn't it? I don't know, it was like Gator
- 1:52:37bites. I'm like, so a chicken nugget.
- 1:52:39Yeah, I heard. I heard it tastes like.
- 1:52:40Chicken, right? Like great, let's be honest.
- 1:52:42Like, oh, you're having Gator bite something.
- 1:52:43So basically chicken Nuggets. Yeah, nonetheless, though,
- 1:52:46that's how, that's that's why, that's why you got to have all
- 1:52:50the flavors, dude. What do you mean?
- 1:52:51That's like the definition of America swamp people that you
- 1:52:55could be friends with somebody who's from the swamp and I don't
- 1:52:58even really know if I want to say swamp people.
- 1:53:00That sounds so fucking. That's ATV show.
- 1:53:03I feel like we got friends who probably are who are or
- 1:53:05listeners who are from maybe that area.
- 1:53:07And like now, I wouldn't call him like a swamp person.
- 1:53:10I mean, if he looks like that, yeah.
- 1:53:12I just want to hear a swamp person.
- 1:53:15What's what's so bad? All right, so we said swamp
- 1:53:17person and they say I'm a city slicker.
- 1:53:19I wear that with the with the, you know, I.
- 1:53:22Am. That sounds really cool.
- 1:53:23Right. I'm a city.
- 1:53:24Slicker. Yeah, see, that's the problem.
- 1:53:25We get all the cool. Names.
- 1:53:26Yeah, I'd. Be pulling up.
- 1:53:27No, we hold up. They made a they.
- 1:53:29Made a whole. They made a whole movie called
- 1:53:31City Slickers where like the city slickers were like the
- 1:53:33dumbasses. I mean, they are.
- 1:53:35We are the dumbasses. Bring us down there.
- 1:53:36We're gonna be like. Huh.
- 1:53:37Yeah, and they know how to guess what the fire probably survive.
- 1:53:40Yeah, bring bring me into PA like in two hours in and I'm
- 1:53:44still gonna be that down. That's true.
- 1:53:45Yes, to survive down there. I guarantee you we would not.
- 1:53:49Yeah. No, we would not, No.
- 1:53:50We would get fucking killed right away 100%.
- 1:53:53They're going to be like, OK, now hunt your own food.
- 1:53:55I'd be like. That's why it fascinates me.
- 1:53:56I'll watch them. Those people are living this
- 1:53:58fucking like fucking bugs alone bro.
- 1:54:02It would be I'm getting malaria. You're a Filipino, you should be
- 1:54:05used to it right though? They when I go to the
- 1:54:07Philippines, crazy. When I go to the Philippines,
- 1:54:09the bugs over there, they don't, they don't need my blood.
- 1:54:11They're like, I'm sick. I'm sick of your shit.
- 1:54:13Him right here. They're they're, they're gonna
- 1:54:14eat me up. They're eating him up.
- 1:54:16Yeah, they're like. Sucking the shit out of your.
- 1:54:17Paws occasion, but whoa. Wait, wait.
- 1:54:20But why? Why is that?
- 1:54:22I don't know what the bugs think.
- 1:54:23'Cause they're like, I already had this flavor before, Like I
- 1:54:26want Gator bites. OK, truly.
- 1:54:30Dude, I fucking yo. I haven't had a mosquito bite in
- 1:54:33so fucking long. Yeah.
- 1:54:35The winter the. Winter has felt that long.
- 1:54:38Is that weird? The winter was like, not even
- 1:54:41happening. January was a fucking marriage.
- 1:54:44Three weeks of doing nothing now.
- 1:54:47I love January. January was our best mom.
- 1:54:50That's why I loved it. It's because you had a crazy
- 1:54:52giveaway. Who won the?
- 1:54:53Who won the body kit? Who won it?
- 1:54:56His name is Chad Morris. Chad Morris from California.
- 1:55:01California had a had a S13. We called him today.
- 1:55:07Yo, you want a body kit? He's like, really?
- 1:55:11Yeah. He's like, that's sick.
- 1:55:13I'm like, yeah, typical California.
- 1:55:15The right coast got it, so that'll look good.
- 1:55:17Yeah, so I have a feeling his car probably looks really good
- 1:55:20so. He was souped on it.
- 1:55:22Yeah, he was stoked. See, that's, that's how, that's
- 1:55:25how the drift the universe balance things out.
- 1:55:27They're nicer people, but they have nicer cars than we do.
- 1:55:30I don't really enter. Right.
- 1:55:31Let's be honest. Yeah.
- 1:55:33We're meaner people. They're I think things are.
- 1:55:36I guess I can't come on. We're we're nice over here.
- 1:55:38Stop. We have a couple.
- 1:55:40We have a couple over here. But I'm saying things are
- 1:55:42things. Have a fleet.
- 1:55:45Yes and no. I think they're starting to get
- 1:55:47ugly cars over there now. They got history.
- 1:55:49Yeah, but I'm saying now I think it's going both ways or like
- 1:55:52now. It's a mess of fucking.
- 1:55:53Instagram bro who? Who?
- 1:55:56Owns it right now 2025. The Midwest will own it forever
- 1:56:01Every. Style.
- 1:56:02Game ever since risky double right?
- 1:56:04There's a Texas. It'll never go away if you go to
- 1:56:06don't forget about Texas. Have you been a final?
- 1:56:09No, no, no. No, when you go there and you
- 1:56:11spend like the two days before or whatever.
- 1:56:14I feel like it's going to just ruin me.
- 1:56:15I'm be like alright guys, you fucked up.
- 1:56:18You are going to feel that way a little bit, but you're going to
- 1:56:20understand. Drivers meeting FD hey.
- 1:56:23Shut it down. Yeah, everything here is ugly.
- 1:56:25But you're going to, you're going to feel, you're going to,
- 1:56:27you're going to have the same thought process that I'm having.
- 1:56:29You're going to be like, yeah, they got this shit on lock.
- 1:56:31Then you're going. To go to Culver's bro.
- 1:56:33But he's right about Texas, though.
- 1:56:34Texas is a Texas. Is looking good, Yeah, knuckle
- 1:56:36up is. Looking good, I mean Texas.
- 1:56:38I think right now, right now, you see knuckle up, you see club
- 1:56:44Fr. I don't say final bet, I'll just
- 1:56:46say club Fr. Was it good, Good luck, League,
- 1:56:54good luck, good luck? Something like that, Yeah.
- 1:56:56Isn't that the guy's from the the goodest past and all that?
- 1:56:58I don't know. Do you know Carl?
- 1:57:00Good luck, League. Is that a thing?
- 1:57:02Yeah, that's how they're in. California, I think.
- 1:57:05That's Palmer and all. Them.
- 1:57:07No no no, that's goodest cast. Good luck.
- 1:57:09League is run by fuck Stevie would know.
- 1:57:14Well, that that little bubble of people over there that.
- 1:57:18But that's not just over there cuz when you think about it.
- 1:57:20So now we're now we got West Coast, East Coast, Midwest.
- 1:57:23South and and drift in the the the what because of what Derrick
- 1:57:26King and all that they've really cleaned up.
- 1:57:28Dude, they're. Style wise.
- 1:57:30Oh yeah, Derrick King runs a Runs an.
- 1:57:32That's the Midwest. Ship over there, huh?
- 1:57:34That's the Midwest. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:57:36Like I'm I'm telling you, man, Midwest is they're going to be
- 1:57:38on top for a while when it comes to the style, in my opinion, I
- 1:57:41think. What do you?
- 1:57:42Think that is because in the water.
- 1:57:45No, because I think, well, yes, but because, okay, hear me out
- 1:57:49before social media. Yeah, there's fucking extra
- 1:57:52calcium in it. What was the pipes?
- 1:57:54Before where did we go? Where did we go wrong?
- 1:57:56I. Don't know about that, but
- 1:57:57before social media it was you did things that your peers did
- 1:58:02right and that was it, right? Right.
- 1:58:04And of course, you know, videos and stuff like that from Japan
- 1:58:06and other things like. That so you think external
- 1:58:08influence kind of a. 100% but it but but they're surrounded by
- 1:58:13basically the proceed guys and risky devil.
- 1:58:16Those were the elders in the group.
- 1:58:17Those are the first people to do it and they all got their
- 1:58:21inspiration from Japan. So their cars were Immaculate,
- 1:58:24looking cool, like factory body kit.
- 1:58:27Not to mention they had Toby Factory over there.
- 1:58:29So Dave, Dave's doing the same thing.
- 1:58:31So now they have that whole community and what do we have
- 1:58:33over here? We're just we have Raceway Park,
- 1:58:37so that's a big thing as far as driving is concerned.
- 1:58:40We have the best track that anyone had in the country, I
- 1:58:43would say, for drifting. So what is that going?
- 1:58:45To produce. That's going to produce current
- 1:58:48the best drivers. Do you think, do you think we
- 1:58:52ended up taking the route that we have?
- 1:58:55I, I, well, I don't want to say I, I think because of the heavy
- 1:58:59influence from Drift Alliance. Not, not, not exactly.
- 1:59:03If I had to put a put a thing as I'm saying this, I'm I'm
- 1:59:06figuring it out. They don't have a track over
- 1:59:08there in Chicago. They have little skid pads and
- 1:59:13stuff like that. But their stuff was real St.
- 1:59:16stuff because they really didn't have a track.
- 1:59:18We have fucking Raceway Park an hour away, so our stuff, our
- 1:59:23drift drifting was mainly on the track and especially drift
- 1:59:27lines. And all those guys were doing it
- 1:59:28before we were or before I was. And when you're on the track,
- 1:59:32you're going to break shit a lot more often.
- 1:59:34Your body keeps going to break everything.
- 1:59:36You're going to go off the track.
- 1:59:37Everything's going to be broken eventually.
- 1:59:39You don't really give a fuck about how it looks anymore.
- 1:59:43I think that's it. Yeah.
- 1:59:44So we're a product of our environment.
- 1:59:46You. Don't think.
- 1:59:49Until someone comes in and changes it.
- 1:59:51I think that was you guys though.
- 1:59:52When you I thought it was too. When?
- 1:59:54You guys in Front Street showed up.
- 1:59:56You guys were like you guys kind of, at least from my
- 1:59:59perspective. You guys picked up where Brian
- 2:00:03Wilkerson stopped when he had his clean.
- 2:00:07Yeah, his clean coupe. Oh, coupe, OK.
- 2:00:10Yeah, yeah, I know the the Rigamasters and stuff like that
- 2:00:12and it. Was really and Wagner's.
- 2:00:13Car and Wagner's car and stuff like that.
- 2:00:15Yeah, I mean, obviously they're, they were getting style
- 2:00:17influence from Japan and other, other places like that.
- 2:00:21We, me and Josh, I can tell you we're getting a lot of our
- 2:00:24inspiration from street drifting in Chicago because it was
- 2:00:28videotaped and it was online now.
- 2:00:31So we are like, yo, this shit's sick.
- 2:00:33So it was like we kind of brought that over here because
- 2:00:37we were like, well, we like driving on the street.
- 2:00:39We like cool, cool cars, but we obviously love and it's.
- 2:00:42Because when you guys started doing that, the rest of us like
- 2:00:49like Dan Savage, Jeff Stoneback, Steve Angerman, like all these
- 2:00:53other dudes that were showing up at that time, we had already
- 2:00:55started moving into program cards because there wasn't any.
- 2:01:00There wasn't that. And the last time we saw that
- 2:01:04was like the D1 show off demos that they would do like at E
- 2:01:08Town. Yeah, that shit.
- 2:01:10Yeah. Yeah, and it was crazy.
- 2:01:12Yo, they, they, they, they stomped all over us.
- 2:01:14Timing is everything too, because you got to remember like
- 2:01:16Petty and all those guys were experiencing that, and you too,
- 2:01:19I'm assuming. I came in the tail end of it.
- 2:01:22Yeah, so like you guys already experienced that shit, so
- 2:01:25they're kind of over that now. They're like, oh, comp driving
- 2:01:28that's kind of obviously not petty is in the comp driving,
- 2:01:30but everyone else is like, oh, comp driving like let's try this
- 2:01:33out. I and I think the reason we
- 2:01:35ended up doing it or is because like for those, for some of us,
- 2:01:42the only way at that time for it to become how do we make this a
- 2:01:46career so we can just keep on doing this forever, was we're
- 2:01:50going to have to become pro drivers.
- 2:01:53Yeah, yeah, I don't. Next.
- 2:01:54Yeah. That was the next week.
- 2:01:55It wasn't. It wasn't that we got into this
- 2:01:57and it was. Forsberg, you saw Turek, you saw
- 2:01:59this happening. And they didn't do it even the
- 2:02:02way like those guys did it watching their first couple of
- 2:02:05videos. It it you didn't.
- 2:02:09It didn't come off, at least for me.
- 2:02:11I didn't receive it like, oh, we're dudes and we're trying to
- 2:02:15become race car drivers. They were just dudes just
- 2:02:17shredding. Yeah, it wasn't like it was a
- 2:02:19lot. Different.
- 2:02:20Become, you know. Those videos, so like there were
- 2:02:25the videos were that were like Haggard Garage, all that stuff
- 2:02:28where it's like hanging out bullshitting.
- 2:02:30That's like our level with me and my friends.
- 2:02:32The Turk offseason videos. That was that was when I was
- 2:02:36drifting when those. Videos came out, those videos
- 2:02:39were like the oh shit, like we could do other stuff and we can,
- 2:02:47we can drift and go streeting. And then when I found those, you
- 2:02:52found other streeting videos, like somebody made a post about
- 2:02:56these recently on the I think it was like Shakotan nights on
- 2:02:59Facebook. All of those videos of that era
- 2:03:03were what not groomed but birthed a lot of.
- 2:03:07People, yeah, your whole your whole era that.
- 2:03:10Whole era like miles deadbeat there was this SR20 pig nose
- 2:03:16hatch I think it was or it was a coop but there was a front
- 2:03:19camera in the car like a bumper Cam.
- 2:03:22And the Sr. car is just ripping this mountain Rd. and it's wet
- 2:03:26and it's slow and it's very easy going.
- 2:03:30And that video, dude. Videos were a huge thing.
- 2:03:32I think the era, I would say about 10 years ago where we were
- 2:03:37really, that's when we were doing ride away stuff with
- 2:03:41videos were a big thing. Like long form videos were huge
- 2:03:44for us and then like if you could be part of one of those
- 2:03:47long form videos, like it was it.
- 2:03:49Yeah, you got because you got like a little part.
- 2:03:51Yeah, it was a real nostalgic time.
- 2:03:53And I, I, I mean, I like what we do with reels and everything now
- 2:03:56in social media. But back then, like when someone
- 2:03:59would drop a video, you would go watch the video just to see, you
- 2:04:04know. But then again, it was so much
- 2:04:06easier for you to get. It's so much easier now for you
- 2:04:08to get filled. You kind of get mixed into the
- 2:04:11sea of footage that's out there sometimes.
- 2:04:13Sometimes, like of a creator, will you stumble upon a channel
- 2:04:19or something? There's a Harley channel that I
- 2:04:21watch. Japanese guy who has a Harley
- 2:04:25probably does not. Kill shit.
- 2:04:27Does not talk. I mean there's there's like
- 2:04:29probably. Way better at it than a. 100,000
- 2:04:31subscribers or whatever, but it hasn't like taken off Taken off
- 2:04:34doesn't really talk, but they he's able to capture like a a
- 2:04:39vibe and just a feeling that I like.
- 2:04:42So that's why I I watch it. I feel like it just takes that
- 2:04:47one videographer, that one post process editor or whatever to
- 2:04:51make that video to translate that feeling where it's like I
- 2:04:55want to watch this video. I want to watch this next video
- 2:04:58again. I want to see this part that
- 2:05:00they got in here. I want to see the driving in
- 2:05:02this next. Part that was.
- 2:05:03Keep drifting. Fun that was.
- 2:05:05That one. Video keep drifting.
- 2:05:06Fun was huge. Yeah.
- 2:05:08Street of Slide America. I remember the old one that I
- 2:05:12had the old one, and I remember Plan B, you know, the company
- 2:05:15Plan B, They came out with a drifting video on par with
- 2:05:18escape video way back like in 2005, 2006.
- 2:05:21I've been talking about that for 10 years now.
- 2:05:23Yeah, Plan B, they came out with a street.
- 2:05:25So there is a lot of that. It's like and like, which is why
- 2:05:29I understand like I'll meet a lot of guys that come to the
- 2:05:31school that are students that are just like, I want to go
- 2:05:33compete and I understand why they do it because they come in
- 2:05:37seeing the Forsberg and the Von. But I didn't I didn't see that.
- 2:05:40Like my introduction with drifting was so much more St.
- 2:05:44drifting, so more more geared on the style.
- 2:05:47And I guess due to when we came into drifting, by the time we
- 2:05:50came to like, what's the next thing to do?
- 2:05:53We moved over to the prime stuff because they're because at that
- 2:05:56time there was no Pro 2, no nothing.
- 2:05:59It was just like when you became pro, you became pro.
- 2:06:02But back then, and I was saying this at another podcast as well,
- 2:06:05like I feel like back then you could be a pro whether you
- 2:06:09competed and you can be a pro and just not be a competition
- 2:06:14drifter. Well, you're just like the pro
- 2:06:16of that area. Like like you're.
- 2:06:19Getting paid by. Let me like.
- 2:06:20Let me or you mean like make it money wise?
- 2:06:22Like no, no, no trash like you are at that skill level.
- 2:06:25So let me give you an A current example.
- 2:06:28Now there's no one that's going to tell me that Josh Elise isn't
- 2:06:30a professional driver. I will.
- 2:06:33Yeah. No, I was about to say this guy
- 2:06:35right here. When it comes to drifting, he
- 2:06:38doesn't compete. He he's not a competition like
- 2:06:42you know, but. He does, but he.
- 2:06:43Doesn't he would love to be a dude and he would be the hardest
- 2:06:46on. Himself, yeah, but right away,
- 2:06:47the what he does, the style of drifting he does, like there's
- 2:06:51no license for that, but like that dude's that dude's a pro
- 2:06:55level driver. Yeah.
- 2:06:56Now if I take Josh and I put him in that VA 350Z that I have and
- 2:07:01I'll say yeah, you're going to practice for a month, I
- 2:07:03guarantee you a month later he'll figure that shit out way
- 2:07:06earlier than that easy. Yeah.
- 2:07:08So like, what's the difference between that guy and someone who
- 2:07:10does have a license? You know what I mean?
- 2:07:13Again, I'm not taking any anything away from people that
- 2:07:15do that, but I just think that there was a time where you could
- 2:07:20be a pro snowboarder that competed, but you could be a pro
- 2:07:25snowboarder that did Backcountry and that was 100% OK.
- 2:07:28And at at some point in drifting, it was like that.
- 2:07:31And then now if you say I'm a pro, it's like, Oh well, you
- 2:07:33have to compete. Look man, these companies used
- 2:07:36to start paying people. I'm sorry, that's that's what it
- 2:07:39really. Is action, yeah.
- 2:07:40Try to get that Sponsors no. I'm talking like, I'm talking
- 2:07:44like tire companies like. Microfiber companies.
- 2:07:47Yeah. Fucking you know, I thought
- 2:07:48about that too, but I think maybe just like, so for
- 2:07:51instance, we look at other racing series and you're like,
- 2:07:53well, how can we can't do it like that?
- 2:07:55You know how you said timing is everything?
- 2:07:57Well, maybe the timing for it lined up for them that way, but
- 2:08:00the timing for us isn't and the structure for us just isn't so.
- 2:08:04You know, I still think grassroot competition stuff is
- 2:08:06going to I I know it hasn't. I mean it's picked up a lot but
- 2:08:09I I think it's dude Super D had it like Super D was.
- 2:08:14I think it's I mean. Like if they if they keep those
- 2:08:16going or they come out with some more of those, I I think that
- 2:08:19will really help and obviously final bout, but the. 230 fives I
- 2:08:21think are doing are going to do good.
- 2:08:24I think the Super D. But I mean, like, as far as
- 2:08:29companies being like, Oh yeah, we'll dump money into this
- 2:08:31driver because he's he's out there.
- 2:08:35His car's got style. All the kids are looking at
- 2:08:37these people, right? Like I think, but I'm going to,
- 2:08:41you know, come in a different. World, maybe it's a niche and
- 2:08:45it's like, you know, it's real. I think it's really hard for
- 2:08:47some of these companies to realize what niche they should
- 2:08:49be attacking. I mean, it's us.
- 2:08:51It's easy for us to decipher the niches of drifting.
- 2:08:54But if you go tell one of these people who for no reason, they
- 2:08:57should know that, hey, you do know that there's like different
- 2:08:59subcultures of drifting. To them, drifting is just
- 2:09:02drifting. OK, here I'll give you an
- 2:09:03example. You know, so like when I would
- 2:09:05see this is like five years ago, but when I would see like or
- 2:09:08when Justin would go do pro am or some shit somewhere US drift
- 2:09:10or something, I'd be like I'd be there looking around.
- 2:09:13I'm like, no one's here. No one gives a shit, no one
- 2:09:17cares. But that was back then too.
- 2:09:19Then you're going to find about and you're like, still no,
- 2:09:21everyone is here, everyone's videoing it, everyone cares
- 2:09:25about this. And that that's, that's, that's
- 2:09:27my whole gripe with it because I'm like.
- 2:09:29But I'm saying the potential to make money.
- 2:09:32Which one would? You pick.
- 2:09:33I'm going to pick the one with all the eyes on it.
- 2:09:35Yeah. Because all those kids are going
- 2:09:38to drift now. Now the, the, I don't want to
- 2:09:40say the unfortunate thing, but I think it's more so like the
- 2:09:42reality of the situation is your benchmark for that type of stuff
- 2:09:46is going to be like formula drift.
- 2:09:48So they're going to pull numbers from that and be like, well,
- 2:09:50this is what it could be at the highest standard and like
- 2:09:53everyone goes there just to go there.
- 2:09:55Do I think that format of drifting could work out that
- 2:10:00way? Yes.
- 2:10:01But I think the evolution of it to get to that point, you guys
- 2:10:05wouldn't like how we would end up steering like it would get
- 2:10:08maybe a little bit more. It can't.
- 2:10:10It can't change. That's the thing.
- 2:10:12It's got to say the same. But it will.
- 2:10:13But it will because they'll be money, they'll be this, they'll
- 2:10:16be that. And I think that's what make
- 2:10:18that that niche so good. Is that because because?
- 2:10:21There's. No money and so you can stay
- 2:10:24pure. OK, but pure is a weird thing.
- 2:10:27Wait, let's back up skateboarding people do St.
- 2:10:31series comps, stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:10:34It's not all whack. You know.
- 2:10:35What I'm doing, there's money. Yeah, there's money, but there's
- 2:10:38also dudes that don't do that and all they do is videos and
- 2:10:40they make money. What I'm talking, what I'm
- 2:10:42talking, what I'm concerned about that you're bringing to
- 2:10:46light for me is if somebody, the the sport that we have evolves
- 2:10:52based off of fucking experimentation.
- 2:10:57Like one person does one thing, somebody figures out how good
- 2:11:01that is and then they do it repetitively, then it just
- 2:11:05multiplies, right? Like V eights were not huge
- 2:11:09right off the rib. Then they became huge because
- 2:11:13formula drift in like O 6 or whatever the fuck that was
- 2:11:18popular. There was like a couple of those
- 2:11:20V eights that drifted the best and then people on down here
- 2:11:23were like OK, we can actually buy these I feel like.
- 2:11:26And then more people got V eights because they were like
- 2:11:28shit. V eights are actually really
- 2:11:29easy to drift. I've.
- 2:11:32Driven AV8 car like once. This is just an example because
- 2:11:36V eights are so cheaper. Some person see AV 8, another
- 2:11:38person see AV 8. Everybody's like, if you have
- 2:11:40ALS swap, you're fucking pro. You're the pro, right?
- 2:11:44You're. Sick.
- 2:11:44Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got AV 8 because of that.
- 2:11:47He's got 211 non V81V8. But now it's what Ave. will the
- 2:11:55sport take to get to that level that Reese is describing?
- 2:12:00Where they choose where they as in the population, the community
- 2:12:04chooses which way. Well, what Reese was saying,
- 2:12:09what Reese was saying to me was once money gets involved, the
- 2:12:13people with the money handing it out, it's just they're just
- 2:12:15going to want more money. So how do they get more money?
- 2:12:17I. Was thinking about.
- 2:12:18Others so how do they do this and then I'll.
- 2:12:20Before you know it, it's terrible.
- 2:12:21I mean I I don't want it to be that way, but like, I mean.
- 2:12:24But then that's why I brought a skateboard.
- 2:12:26I'm like, oh wait, I think there's still cool
- 2:12:27skateboarding. But then you hear you hear about
- 2:12:29the same shit in skateboarding. Like what's that podcast I
- 2:12:31listen to sometimes? Again, again, because we don't
- 2:12:33know about it all the way, we know the insurance and outs of
- 2:12:35this. But like, Rob Dyrdek brought in
- 2:12:37that whole that he had like a street series comp or something
- 2:12:40that apparently was a big deal. I didn't know it was but.
- 2:12:43Yeah, SLS. Yeah.
- 2:12:44And when I heard about him talking about that and he was on
- 2:12:47someone's podcast, I was like, oh, that's actually really
- 2:12:50similar to the shit we're going through.
- 2:12:52Because he was making it seem like there wasn't like an easy
- 2:12:55entryway to this stuff. It was like you either had to be
- 2:12:57a. Crazy.
- 2:12:57And that's, that's the thing, like, you know, why is it, why
- 2:13:02did you have to go do that? I'm not I'm it sounds so bad
- 2:13:05because I'm a judge. That's why I love this
- 2:13:08conversation. Like it's so bad, but it's like,
- 2:13:10you know, I, I get, I get that you want to go do that, but
- 2:13:15like, what about the people that don't?
- 2:13:19And they're just perfectly content with being rippers at,
- 2:13:21at, at the and I don't, I don't like saying it's a division
- 2:13:24lower. Yeah, but I mean, like, it's
- 2:13:27just a different way of doing it.
- 2:13:28Like there used to be 4 strokes and two strokes and and
- 2:13:31motocross and you have to be just as skilled to do either or.
- 2:13:34So what would your ideal situation be in the drifting
- 2:13:37competition world? I think people should I I think
- 2:13:41we just need to have less grip, go to a smaller tire size and
- 2:13:44make it more about the driver. And just jam.
- 2:13:47And and yeah, they make it more about the driver.
- 2:13:49Would you have different competitions or it would just be
- 2:13:53FD or it would be like different?
- 2:13:55Not saying there should be other operations as big as FD, but I'm
- 2:13:59saying would there be like grassroots competition?
- 2:14:01Like more grassroots competition?
- 2:14:03I wish, I wish, I wish we were more organized in our in our
- 2:14:08industry to where we could have like a grassroot division.
- 2:14:14Imagine AFD grassroots division. Yeah, that would be.
- 2:14:17Yeah, I'm. In there, not FD because it
- 2:14:19would just be a headache. Yeah, it would be, yeah, I mean,
- 2:14:21but I try to give it. You know, well, yeah, try to
- 2:14:24give him a little shower, but. Because I don't want to judge
- 2:14:25it, I want to. Drive.
- 2:14:26Yeah, I want to drive it too like anybody, because privateer
- 2:14:31like own privateers only. And.
- 2:14:35And I need AI, need a check, I need a pay stub to show me that
- 2:14:40you're a privateer. I want to see how much money you
- 2:14:43have and and you'll put me only against others, band for band.
- 2:14:48You're not taking me out. Well, I think where the money's
- 2:14:50going to come into play, like let's say you're in the middle
- 2:14:52of a competition, like you break something and that's you just so
- 2:14:55happen to have the part because you have the money.
- 2:14:57I think that's where it comes into play.
- 2:14:59But I think having like these different competitions, if we
- 2:15:04have to have competitions like it's just steering it to where
- 2:15:09like I, I think eventually you get good enough and drifting
- 2:15:11where you can be like, OK, someone's winning here, possibly
- 2:15:15because of horsepower and tire. And over here with the way they
- 2:15:19have it set up with the, the restrictions of maybe tire
- 2:15:22sizes, people are winning based off of like more than just that,
- 2:15:26you know, and like we, I don't want to say like, Oh, well, you
- 2:15:29know, you're, it's more about the driver than your equipment.
- 2:15:33I'm again, I'm not taken away from what they're doing in FD,
- 2:15:36but I think in the middle, a lot of people look at you competing
- 2:15:41in like a 235 series and it's like almost like people don't
- 2:15:43take you serious. You're like, oh, well, you're
- 2:15:45not really doing anything. You're just doing this.
- 2:15:47It's like, Nah, dude. Like they're like, this takes a
- 2:15:49lot of skill to do. Yeah, I would feel almost the
- 2:15:51opposite way. You know what I mean?
- 2:15:52But I think only people that know about drifting can see how
- 2:15:55hard it is to like, OK, I have a 400 horsepower car and I have to
- 2:15:59go against this dude that has like Kerbal lag, but it's like
- 2:16:02320. Like how do I match it?
- 2:16:04You know what I mean? Like that, that there's some
- 2:16:06skill that goes into figuring that out, where in the high
- 2:16:10horsepower stuff it's just like speed grip horsepower.
- 2:16:14Nothing wrong with that. It's just something different,
- 2:16:16you know what I mean? Like that's just all it is.
- 2:16:18And FD is cool to watch so I don't want to get rid of it.
- 2:16:22No, it's cool to watch because of, I think Greg said in one of
- 2:16:25the other podcasts that it's it, it's good because it's spreads
- 2:16:29the word of drifting to the masses.
- 2:16:31It may not be something that everyone's about because
- 2:16:34everyone likes a different form of drifting, but it's like the
- 2:16:37biggest chip that we have in drifting.
- 2:16:39So that's why we should support. It and that's yeah, because more
- 2:16:42people will get a because more people get into it and then they
- 2:16:45steer away from calm stuff and start doing what we're, you
- 2:16:47know, all the other stuff. That's why we set booths of it
- 2:16:49for. Me, I would.
- 2:16:49I would definitely. I definitely agreed with what
- 2:16:53he's and that guy is smart as hell.
- 2:16:55Yeah, fucking well. I don't know about.
- 2:16:56Oh, Greg. Craig Busell.
- 2:16:58Sometimes I don't know about him being all smart.
- 2:17:01Oh shit, hey, sorry, this is the faction.
- 2:17:03Podcast. I love.
- 2:17:04I love Greg. He's awesome.
- 2:17:05Yeah. This we're going to fight.
- 2:17:08I never I never met Greg yet, so no, he's a good dude.
- 2:17:11He's definitely a good dude. I spoke with him not too long
- 2:17:13ago. We were talking about like
- 2:17:14judging and all that stuff and just drifting and where
- 2:17:18everything's at. And so like, it's cool.
- 2:17:19You can have those conversations with people.
- 2:17:21Just the word your thing is going and like everyone has a
- 2:17:24little different view of it all. What?
- 2:17:26About what? About those Adam LZ events?
- 2:17:29That's the world tour. Yeah, that's the one Josh.
- 2:17:31Josh got second place or some shit in.
- 2:17:33Did he get it in Canada? No, the Jersey 1, whatever year
- 2:17:36that was. Oh, where he was literally.
- 2:17:39Oh, that. Shit was sick.
- 2:17:40See. So that was a hometown hero
- 2:17:43moment for Josh, probably. Like, yeah, that probably.
- 2:17:47I want to know how the fuck to feel about that.
- 2:17:49I would be geeking. Dude, I mean, I know.
- 2:17:51How Josh felt, he was like fucking second place.
- 2:17:55Right. God damn it.
- 2:17:57He's like I should have. Won.
- 2:17:58We were all like yo this is sick.
- 2:18:00He's like fucking second. He only gets 2nd place so I know
- 2:18:05that's how he felt but. I think that, I think those, I
- 2:18:07think those are good. They I got to judge the one in
- 2:18:13Toronto. So I went up there and it was
- 2:18:15just, you know, a really good show.
- 2:18:21You just go there. There's tons of people.
- 2:18:23No, again, no one took it really serious.
- 2:18:26You know, I think what I've noticed is just like, no one
- 2:18:29really, like in drifting, like, no one really takes it serious.
- 2:18:32Yeah, but as soon as you go to FD.
- 2:18:35Everything's serious. There's, well, you know why
- 2:18:37there's a lot of money on my mind.
- 2:18:39It's for real. Yeah, people like.
- 2:18:42Everywhere else is like yeah FD it's like.
- 2:18:46You know why I'm? There's a lot of money on the
- 2:18:48line, man you. Know what I'm waiting for?
- 2:18:50You're absolutely. There's a lot of money.
- 2:18:51That's what it is. When I see people break shit,
- 2:18:54I'm just like, that's expensive. You know what I'm waiting for in
- 2:18:57FD? For Brian Hop to bust that shit
- 2:19:00up and show that you could fucking have fun in FD.
- 2:19:03Come on, let's hear it. I hope so.
- 2:19:05Just show up in there, hop and fucking fuck shit up.
- 2:19:08Just start partying around. What's your opinion on this?
- 2:19:13I think Brian's a good driver, but I think with anyone that's
- 2:19:18new, you need to be a little bit.
- 2:19:22You just have to get used to it. And you go in there, the water's
- 2:19:24cold. It's like, all right, I got to
- 2:19:26get used to this. I think other people that we've
- 2:19:29seen come have success, like Manoa or like Connor, they come
- 2:19:33from already doing that. Yeah, You know, so do I think
- 2:19:38can people drift and are good at drifting?
- 2:19:39Yeah. But where it changes with
- 2:19:42Formula Drift, where I will 100% give it to these FT drivers.
- 2:19:47It's different when you lock in and then you go out there and
- 2:19:50you see how many people are showing up for this and then you
- 2:19:52have to perform in the next 45 seconds like that's.
- 2:19:57And Brian is a very chill fun. Yeah, he's a very.
- 2:19:59And I think he definitely can lock in and do all that.
- 2:20:02So I think. Yeah, now we're now we're going
- 2:20:03to see if it's possible and I, I cannot wait.
- 2:20:05Dude, I want Hop to look at those challenges and just be so
- 2:20:09laissez faire about it because it's.
- 2:20:12Well, yes and no, but yeah, he's going to be yeah.
- 2:20:14Yeah, and just. Hope it just.
- 2:20:16Go out and show that people can have fun still.
- 2:20:18Like people see hop on the Internet now and he's out
- 2:20:22fucking jumping jeeps and. Shit, but even Hop, I think even
- 2:20:25Hop, once he gets there, you have to take it serious because
- 2:20:31maybe not, maybe the first time not.
- 2:20:33But like I'm sure after he goes for the first round and he sees
- 2:20:36how much was used, yeah, it's like you may be OK with it.
- 2:20:40You may be a person who you locked down your sponsors and
- 2:20:43you did everything you need to do and you're ready to do this.
- 2:20:47But it takes a different person when you're like OK, I spent XML
- 2:20:50and I got to do it again. Yeah.
- 2:20:53Yeah. And then you got to lock in.
- 2:20:54So like, I totally sympathize with these guys when like.
- 2:20:57When they take it seriously. When they take it serious and
- 2:20:59then they'll like, they'll come up to you, you'll ask you a
- 2:21:01question, but in the back of their mind, you know, their
- 2:21:04transmission broke and their mechanic is sick and like they,
- 2:21:08their trailer tires broke. And like all these things that
- 2:21:12you wouldn't even think about is what these drivers are thinking
- 2:21:15about. So like that's the, and they
- 2:21:16have to deal with all of that within 3 days of doing the
- 2:21:20competition. So that's where I feel like that
- 2:21:23world of formula drift is very different than like what we do
- 2:21:27outside of FT. Because if something goes wrong,
- 2:21:30like there's always someone you that can help you.
- 2:21:32It's like, you know, you can figure it out, like whatever
- 2:21:34over there, you're still going to get the help.
- 2:21:36But you know, you got bother clock on the line over there
- 2:21:40looking at everything. You're on a time limit, no one's
- 2:21:43going to sleep. Then you got to get home.
- 2:21:46I can't wait to have Brian on this podcast because I want to
- 2:21:48get his opinion before he goes. Yeah.
- 2:21:52It's have you talked to him? We should get him on here.
- 2:21:54I'm sure. Come on here.
- 2:21:55I think you should have him come on here before he goes.
- 2:21:57And then we're we're sponsoring him with Origin, so.
- 2:22:01Are we really? Yeah.
- 2:22:02What the fuck, Brian? I've seen you like 6 times.
- 2:22:05So I think when he comes, grab some stuff, we'll have him on
- 2:22:08the podcast. That's when we'll go from there.
- 2:22:09But yeah, so we're trying to make sure the car look is
- 2:22:12looking 100%, yeah. I like how we're all trying to
- 2:22:14like clean up a little bit. We're like, alright, let's get a
- 2:22:17clean shirt. On, you know.
- 2:22:20I didn't get a clean shirt, I just got clean socks real quick.
- 2:22:23I was like, alright, let me start with the socks.
- 2:22:25The wheels. It's just nuts that that is a
- 2:22:30thing. Like Hop was in the fucking
- 2:22:34early E Town group too. And yeah.
- 2:22:35Fucking. And he was.
- 2:22:37He was the. Drivers Burger.
- 2:22:41He maybe if Hop was the driver, you go to E town like if you're
- 2:22:43like, oh, I'm going there. I don't I don't have a car
- 2:22:45today. I'm not driving.
- 2:22:46I'm not drifting today. Well, it's hop drifting.
- 2:22:48Oh, OK, cool. Then I'll go watch.
- 2:22:49Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like that's the person you
- 2:22:51want to watch. That's why he was wild.
- 2:22:53Like what do you think top three people you want to watch at E
- 2:22:55Town if you were there? Yeah, yeah, 100% yeah.
- 2:22:57Like when you had the VQS 13 and like, yeah, that thing was
- 2:23:02haggard. Yeah, Yeah.
- 2:23:04Well. He drove it.
- 2:23:05He drove the piss out of it. Yep, his his like Coca-Cola
- 2:23:11colored S13 looks yeah, really good, yeah.
- 2:23:15And that fucking V8 is crazy. Yeah, yeah, I've been only
- 2:23:18receiving end of that thing. I'm like, all right, dude,
- 2:23:20relax. The receiving.
- 2:23:22End. Yeah, because he's like, yo,
- 2:23:23I'll chase you. And then I'm like, I can't even
- 2:23:27hear myself. Yeah, that's all you heard.
- 2:23:29Right, right, right. I'm like.
- 2:23:30Ah, shit. I try to follow him once.
- 2:23:32I'm like, all right, I'm not even not sure whatever.
- 2:23:36Did we put up a questionnaire? All right, let me let me check
- 2:23:39now I can go on Facebook. I mean, Instagram, whoops,
- 2:23:43there's there's. About to go right to marketplace
- 2:23:45this. Was great.
- 2:23:45This was like, not so much. It was just bro and.
- 2:23:48That's. How they've been right.
- 2:23:50Now. Yeah, we're good at this now.
- 2:23:52It's fucking hype. We just kind of hang out.
- 2:23:54Lollipop, we still doing food out there?
- 2:23:57Yeah, we can. I'm starving.
- 2:23:58Well, I probably should work, but no, it's fine.
- 2:24:00No, no, no, no, no, no. No.
- 2:24:02No, no, you don't have kids at home.
- 2:24:03Well, I might actually have to work.
- 2:24:07We'll see. We'll see.
- 2:24:07No, dude, please. I'm hungry.
- 2:24:10I and. Y'all can go.
- 2:24:11That's what I did last week. It's not a party without you,
- 2:24:13Frankie. Yeah, it is.
- 2:24:14Trust me. I'm boring.
- 2:24:16I went. I went.
- 2:24:17I went with Push last week without you and.
- 2:24:19See what he's doing outside and we'll see if he wants it.
- 2:24:21I like quite literally. Missed you.
- 2:24:23Yeah. Put we, we went out to dinner
- 2:24:24with them afterwards and I would go up to the counter.
- 2:24:27I'm like, Frankie was here already, huh?
- 2:24:30And she was like, yeah, 10 minutes ago.
- 2:24:33I'm like, I knew it. I fucking knew.
- 2:24:35It I had to eat at home. He fucking dashed home.
- 2:24:38He had to go to bed. But I still got that food
- 2:24:41though. Fucking crazy.
- 2:24:43There were the car. Those were the cars that I was
- 2:24:45looking at when I was like, I got to fit these wheels better.
- 2:24:48Oh, really? And then I saw those cars and I
- 2:24:51was like, yeah, like that. Dude, those cars are are cool,
- 2:24:55but those guys can drift, man. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:24:57Have you seen them? Yeah, yeah.
- 2:24:59They're our Evergreen product. Yeah, which is cool.
- 2:25:03Yeah, you should go to Evergreen.
- 2:25:04Dude, what's? What's going on?
- 2:25:05Honey mustard chicken sub baby come.
- 2:25:07On I need. That right now, Oh my gosh, I
- 2:25:10haven't had all the photos. It's a good photo.
- 2:25:12I know I'm out there, dude. Are those your glasses that film
- 2:25:14stuff? No, no, no shit.
- 2:25:20I dude, it's taking me this long to figure out how to work this
- 2:25:22shit. What are you doing I?
- 2:25:24Don't know Malcolm, can you just read the questions?
- 2:25:26Bro where? What do you do?
- 2:25:27He's annoying bro. He's.
- 2:25:28Clicking on his phone, I. Haven't been on here in a month.
- 2:25:30I forgot to use it they. Updated the same thing.
- 2:25:33Is it updated? OK, I Nope, I got it.
- 2:25:38OK. But I don't want to read them.
- 2:25:39You read them. Oh, there's a OK, there's a good
- 2:25:41amount. Yeah, you read some, I'll read
- 2:25:43some, but I'm going to let you start.
- 2:25:44All right. You think they'll be judging
- 2:25:46questions? Like, like, oh, why did he do
- 2:25:49this there? I don't know.
- 2:25:51Let's find out. Let me.
- 2:25:53First question by S13 Tanner, what do you wish you could have
- 2:25:59done differently? There are looking back to when
- 2:26:02you started drift drifting. I wish I never I, I wish I never
- 2:26:10took interior out of my car. Oh, Yep, Yep.
- 2:26:14Hey, like the day I did that and I went to an event that it was
- 2:26:18damp, I was like, this was the stupidest thing I could have
- 2:26:21ever done. Like, oh wow, we're going to
- 2:26:22take the heater out. We're going to, we're going to
- 2:26:24weight reduction. We don't even know about that
- 2:26:26shit. Back then we were like, we're
- 2:26:27going to the stupidest thing ever.
- 2:26:28The day I did that and I took the interior out, when I took
- 2:26:31the carpet out, that's when I was like, I ruined it.
- 2:26:34I wish I could have never. I wish I never did that.
- 2:26:37Yeah. Good answer.
- 2:26:38Interior. Interior.
- 2:26:39I got saved by that. My first car, I took the
- 2:26:41interior out, did all that bullshit.
- 2:26:43Yeah. Drifted it for like a year or
- 2:26:45less. No, a year.
- 2:26:46And then Hurricane Sandy wiped it out.
- 2:26:48So I got a fresh, clean slate right after and I was like, oh,
- 2:26:51I'm. Not I feel like you guys saw
- 2:26:52what we did and we're like. Cool, we're.
- 2:26:55Not doing that. We're not going to do that.
- 2:26:57Yeah, literally. Nice.
- 2:27:01Good for you. Good for you.
- 2:27:02We're not doing that though. Russo says.
- 2:27:05Your fashion style during the early days, The early drifting
- 2:27:08days. Holy shit, why?
- 2:27:10Why? Why?
- 2:27:11Why? Why, why, Why is that being
- 2:27:12brought up right now? Fashion, style had to be your
- 2:27:15club. You got to be knowing why.
- 2:27:17I mean, it must have been like basketball jerseys and like.
- 2:27:20OK, I kind of remember this recent.
- 2:27:21Yeah, yeah. We need to see, we need to see
- 2:27:25that again. What basketball jerseys?
- 2:27:27Low. Low but not.
- 2:27:29I do remember that, but not a. Basketball Jersey for like
- 2:27:32anybody specific just like A and one Basketball Jersey.
- 2:27:36That's it. I would love to.
- 2:27:38Josh Rolf says Drift Alliance Why no?
- 2:27:44I have no idea why. No listen.
- 2:27:49We one day we saw something happen out there on track and we
- 2:27:52were just like drift the lines and like it just became the
- 2:27:55same. We just started saying to one
- 2:27:57another every time we see there's like no rhyme or reason.
- 2:28:01It's just like we just try to see each other first and be like
- 2:28:03drift the lines. You know, it's a bro thing.
- 2:28:06Hey, shout out he he's working on his car lately.
- 2:28:10You see that? Well, you just got back on
- 2:28:12Instagram, but. I saw him working on it.
- 2:28:13Yeah, engine is in. Ever since he came here, it's
- 2:28:15like saw that back. Yeah, the dude's cool.
- 2:28:18Good watch. Love Josh.
- 2:28:19Love Josh. That's, that's what I would say.
- 2:28:22When I would watch FD and I was in the crowd.
- 2:28:25I think Drift Alliance takes another win.
- 2:28:28That's what I would say. That's when I would say that.
- 2:28:30ASCAP, you said different ways. Well, yeah, I don't think it's
- 2:28:34really like that anymore. There's not too many Drift
- 2:28:35Alliance people. Just Von Chris and.
- 2:28:40Von is still drifting. I thought he'd stop, but he.
- 2:28:43Comes in. He comes in, Yeah.
- 2:28:44Yeah, I don't know. What's the secret to a good
- 2:28:48empanada hobby? For me it would be the crust.
- 2:28:54Oh yeah, it needs to be crunchy. Remember that day will brought
- 2:28:59like. Don't remind me.
- 2:29:01Don't those those were pastilios.
- 2:29:03They weren't well, those were Puerto Rican and bananas just as
- 2:29:05good though fucking day. But for me, the Colombian style
- 2:29:08would be the corn crust needs to be like just needs to be just
- 2:29:13right. So.
- 2:29:14You'll be bringing those up here next time.
- 2:29:16Wait. So the Colombian ones are the
- 2:29:18corn ones. What is the one where it's a
- 2:29:21little bit more of a dough and it usually somebody.
- 2:29:24That's what that is. OK, that's what I'm that's I
- 2:29:26guess the one that I'm used to to fuck.
- 2:29:29Those were. Good.
- 2:29:30Are Dominican empanadas different than other ones?
- 2:29:32Yeah. Those are the ones I always
- 2:29:33have. What do they?
- 2:29:34I only know Dominican. People, they're kind of the
- 2:29:36same, you know what I mean? But they're all, they're just,
- 2:29:38they're all great. It's just a lot of them use like
- 2:29:39a flower base instead of a corn base.
- 2:29:41And the filling kind of changes up to like the wages.
- 2:29:45Will his S chassis ever return on what was his favorite version
- 2:29:50of it so far and future version? My favorite version of my S13
- 2:29:56was when it was all red and it had Chrome flames on it.
- 2:29:59Yeah. That was the last one.
- 2:30:01Yeah, that was that was that was in 2014.
- 2:30:05That was my favorite version of it.
- 2:30:07Everyone likes the Los Goonies one when I had like the the
- 2:30:10Philadelphia. Brown colour or something?
- 2:30:13It was, I think it was Violet with like mint green or
- 2:30:16something like. That I remember the mint.
- 2:30:18Yeah, but I like the Chrome, the Chrome flame after one after
- 2:30:22that, which was 2014. It was AV 8 then.
- 2:30:25And I don't know. I I wanna, if I were to do that
- 2:30:29car again, like I'd probably do a Kat and I'd go to like Hayes
- 2:30:33boys and be like, hey. They they, they know the, they
- 2:30:36know the Kat over there, bro. Yeah, that's their thing.
- 2:30:41Is the judging going to be better this coming season?
- 2:30:47Damn Reese Fuck. I mean, I mean, that's the goal,
- 2:30:51you know what I mean? Like it's, it's definitely the
- 2:30:52goal. I mean, definitely after the
- 2:30:54first year, there's some things that you're like, hey, like I'd
- 2:30:58love to see if we could address XY and Z, and there's definitely
- 2:31:04opportunities to do that. And I mean, I hope it all gets
- 2:31:07taken care of. I really do think too, it's just
- 2:31:09like more people that watch it now understand it more.
- 2:31:13So they're asking for better explanations.
- 2:31:15And I think there's a lot of things that we just don't bring
- 2:31:18up, such as like drivers meeting, Like what goes on in
- 2:31:20those drivers meeting? What's kids agreed upon?
- 2:31:23Like, hey, this weekend, this is what we're doing.
- 2:31:24But then no one else knows that. Should the people in the drivers
- 2:31:27meeting. Yeah, that.
- 2:31:27Should definitely be a thing that's announced.
- 2:31:29You should watch like those older FD videos and do like you
- 2:31:33know how you do the little compare you ever do you ever see
- 2:31:36Reese's voice overs? I don't know.
- 2:31:39Like you should maybe watch some of those, that'd be a cool
- 2:31:42little video with the old things, the judging of what
- 2:31:45they're saying back then because they're still yelling and
- 2:31:47screaming about something. But I swear to you, it does not.
- 2:31:50Sound like No, no it doesn't exactly.
- 2:31:52It's totally different parameters of what they're
- 2:31:54looking. At definitely different things
- 2:31:55that they're looking at and like, thank God we don't look at
- 2:31:59that stuff like that now. And I really just think it's
- 2:32:03that I think it's, I don't think it's, I don't think anyone is
- 2:32:06wrong really. It's just, you know, like you
- 2:32:10may look at drifting a different way because you were brought up
- 2:32:12doing something a certain way in this area, and we did it this
- 2:32:15way. And then when you compete, if
- 2:32:17you don't come to agreeable terms like, yo, this is what's
- 2:32:19going on. Yeah.
- 2:32:20I think that's where there's a disconnect.
- 2:32:21Well, I know what you mean with that, because when we did that
- 2:32:23fucking twin drift thing, there was no agreement on anything and
- 2:32:27there was no way to judge anything.
- 2:32:29So you see what I'm saying? That was a fun thing like that
- 2:32:31was. From the beginning.
- 2:32:32But if we're doing a competition.
- 2:32:34We should make it more. First of all, it is a
- 2:32:36competition run by some of our close friends, and it was
- 2:32:40translated right at the beginning that this whole thing
- 2:32:43is for the fact that they had trophies is sick.
- 2:32:45Yeah. Like they got trophies and
- 2:32:47everything. It it's that was for fun and I'm
- 2:32:49a back them up on that for fun. There was.
- 2:32:53No winner, no loser. There was winners and losers,
- 2:32:56and you lost the. People want to win the moment.
- 2:32:58You said there's a competition people want to win.
- 2:33:00Yeah, you should have seen this guy.
- 2:33:01He was fucking locked in. I was locked in and then when I
- 2:33:05heard we lost, I turned right around, looked right at Ethan in
- 2:33:08the eye. That's all you.
- 2:33:10That was you fucking all day long.
- 2:33:14Bang on. Yeah.
- 2:33:15When it? When it.
- 2:33:16Mattered, Ethan, you motherfucker.
- 2:33:19So you see what I'm saying? It's like everyone has a little
- 2:33:22different way of, of looking at things.
- 2:33:24And I just think it's like moving forward having a better,
- 2:33:28better clarity on like, hey, this is what we're looking.
- 2:33:31For yeah, they should say in the beginning of the event like, oh,
- 2:33:32by the way, this is what the judges will be looking for.
- 2:33:34This time and like a lot of times.
- 2:33:36Though Damien did. Yo but like maybe?
- 2:33:39Oh no, not that. Maybe when we explain it like
- 2:33:42drift, people get it, but not everyone really gets it.
- 2:33:46Yeah, like when there's like. Yeah, Oh, they.
- 2:33:49Have no So the people that don't know what the Hell's going on,
- 2:33:51they have. If I say like, yeah, you see the
- 2:33:53dude dive into the pocket, They're like, maybe they don't
- 2:33:56know what diving into the pocket means.
- 2:33:57They don't know what means Yeah, you know, they don't know its
- 2:34:00proximity plus angle like so they got to.
- 2:34:02Explain that every round. And I think for us, it's such a,
- 2:34:05it's those little nuances that we take for granted that like,
- 2:34:08oh, of course we know what initiation is.
- 2:34:09Of course we know what a left foot brake is, of course, but
- 2:34:12not everyone knows what that. Yeah.
- 2:34:14And like, if we're talking to a large audience, you know, that's
- 2:34:20where I think, you know, you can get a little blurred there.
- 2:34:22So, so I hope so because like it's, it sucks getting yelled
- 2:34:25at. So another question is basically
- 2:34:28the same thing, but how is FD judging?
- 2:34:30How has the FD judging team been dealing with the tourists
- 2:34:34complaining about your calls? I don't really know exactly what
- 2:34:37that means. What?
- 2:34:38Is the tourists. Maybe that's exactly what you're
- 2:34:40talking about. People who are don't really know
- 2:34:42what's going on. I think it just gets lost in
- 2:34:44translation. I think.
- 2:34:46I think that's really what, what it comes down to.
- 2:34:48And I think we are, we are pretty strict in FD when it
- 2:34:51comes to a lot of things like we, we, you know, run this line,
- 2:34:56do this, do that. So maybe they just, again, maybe
- 2:34:59they're coming from a different area where they do things
- 2:35:01differently elsewhere, you know, because imagine you come up,
- 2:35:04it's impossible to think like whatever they're doing in the
- 2:35:07Netherlands or whatever they're doing it, it's exactly what
- 2:35:10they're doing. Yeah.
- 2:35:11Totally different. And like, I don't think anyone
- 2:35:13does it better than anyone else. It's just like I go back to
- 2:35:17bringing basketball and it like you have the NBA in America, you
- 2:35:20have the FIBA that's international.
- 2:35:21They're not all the same rules. It's the balls are different the
- 2:35:24balls. And everybody and everybody can
- 2:35:26coexist. No no no, the basketballs are
- 2:35:28literally different. Fuck you like the brain and.
- 2:35:31Everything coexist no issue drifting we it's like we have to
- 2:35:36like well this was better than this but.
- 2:35:38There's a better person even in fee in feeble bro because I know
- 2:35:42FIBA right? I've watched a game or two.
- 2:35:44I fucked with basketball when I was a kid.
- 2:35:47I just know when the US would go to any other country they would
- 2:35:51absolutely RIP right right, RIP and roar.
- 2:35:55But. Lately hasn't been that way, you
- 2:35:57know. Wait.
- 2:35:57Has it not? No, no, I mean you know the
- 2:35:59world is catching up, but but the same thing in the world, the
- 2:36:02drifting. It's like, you know, it exists
- 2:36:04in other sports where it exists. Like how come I can't like let
- 2:36:07drift masters do it? They're there and let FD let let
- 2:36:09D1 NZ let you know. RDS like let them all.
- 2:36:12Coexist. Well, those things have to exist
- 2:36:14so that when we all battle each other country wise, it's like
- 2:36:20there is something there to battle each other upon.
- 2:36:23Like, you know, there's grounds for that.
- 2:36:25Shit. And I think there are these
- 2:36:26maybe like a global and I remember there was one of my
- 2:36:30buddies that was at the the Iron Drift challenge, Iron Drift King
- 2:36:34competition over in Germany named Olaf.
- 2:36:36He was like, you know, if like globally, everybody just kind of
- 2:36:40understood what the rules were going to be.
- 2:36:42It makes. Sense I don't know if that would
- 2:36:44be impossible. But I mean, it's like, I mean
- 2:36:46basic things like, yeah, like you need to run the lead line
- 2:36:49needs to be like, that should be global.
- 2:36:50Like if you're going to be in the lead, you should be running
- 2:36:53the correct line. That's true.
- 2:36:54Like and not everyone does that because even.
- 2:36:56Carl could agree with that. You know what I mean?
- 2:36:58Like, right, that that should be a universal thing.
- 2:37:00Yeah. You know, obviously there's,
- 2:37:01there's some nuances that are going to vary depending what
- 2:37:03part of the world you're in. But like, if you're in the lead,
- 2:37:06like you should be running the right line.
- 2:37:08If you're in the chase, cutting a line and getting into the
- 2:37:11pocket's fine. But like, cutting it where
- 2:37:12you're literally like cutting half the track off like that
- 2:37:15shouldn't be allowed. I like, I like those, those
- 2:37:19little lights that show you if they're in a forward motion
- 2:37:24like. I'm glad you do, because
- 2:37:26everybody. I don't know why.
- 2:37:29OK, let's say well, well, I don't know a lot about them and
- 2:37:34I'm up here, right? So since I'm since I am up here
- 2:37:39all that tells me is OK if that lead person was in the lead and
- 2:37:44they were right in the zone but the light turns red for any
- 2:37:49reason then I'm like why did they need to get off throttle
- 2:37:53there like that is on you like you got off.
- 2:37:59That's kind of. You know, is that is that.
- 2:38:02Yeah, in the lead. In the lead.
- 2:38:04Yeah, you're absolutely right. Yeah.
- 2:38:05See, so that I feel like it's pretty easy to translate if you
- 2:38:09got the little light things. But again, I'm up here and down
- 2:38:12here, there's probably a whole issue, whole array of issues on
- 2:38:16why they're bad. Yeah.
- 2:38:17And then you have people that fixate on like one particular
- 2:38:19part of the battle in the call and they don't really take
- 2:38:22consideration the rest of the battle or the battle.
- 2:38:24Before. How hard is that to judge?
- 2:38:26I don't like FD. Like you, you doing that like
- 2:38:29because even when I'm watching some of these, I'm like.
- 2:38:32You come up with a system like, you know, you just kind of you.
- 2:38:34Got to watch this, watch that. Yeah, you just kind of look at
- 2:38:36them or you take notes. Like sometimes I'll jot it down
- 2:38:39or sometimes I'll just use like voice record and I'll just as
- 2:38:42I'm going, I'm watching them do what they're doing.
- 2:38:44And you got to rewatch it too, right?
- 2:38:45Yeah, you can rewatch it. And so like we have replays or
- 2:38:48sometimes I do it with my phone, whatever is going to give me
- 2:38:50better access to replay, like that's when I'm going to.
- 2:38:52Because I I'm that guy that will focus on one thing and be like
- 2:38:55what the fuck? He got robbed.
- 2:38:56Yeah, cuz I'm just like yeah, I just remember that's it's.
- 2:38:58Rough too cuz I think the chasing is what really messes it
- 2:39:02up cuz let's say you have a battle and then the first guy
- 2:39:05goes lead and chase and then the lead puts down like a semi good
- 2:39:09lead run but isn't the best and because he really didn't put the
- 2:39:13best lead run but it was OK. The chase was good but wasn't as
- 2:39:17great as it could have been. So it's like boom all right you
- 2:39:19get that and then you switch and then the chase driver puts down
- 2:39:22a baller lead line which now allows the chase driver to put a
- 2:39:26put a baller chase and the uneducated would say Oh well the
- 2:39:31chase driver in the second battle should win because his
- 2:39:35chase was closer. I'm like, well no, the Chase
- 2:39:38driver didn't put a good lead run which hurt the.
- 2:39:42Other. So that's not allowed.
- 2:39:44Oh my God, I had to fucking compute that.
- 2:39:47First, second. Because I was like.
- 2:39:48Real complicated. No, no, no, no, because.
- 2:39:51I think now it makes sense. Because this is what what what
- 2:39:54what that is going to help me do is when we watch you can.
- 2:39:58Sandbag. But but it's meant to not.
- 2:40:01The judges are there to tell you you're sandbagging.
- 2:40:06But now when we're watching FD in the faction discord or
- 2:40:09something like that and we're all yelling about some bullshit,
- 2:40:12I'm going to be like, yo. I I got 20 on it right here.
- 2:40:18I promise I don't know anything. 20 on it right here.
- 2:40:21I don't know what the percentage is, but you have a pretty high
- 2:40:24chance of winning any battle is if you're the lead driver 1st
- 2:40:28and you put down an amazing lead line.
- 2:40:31Is that is that kind of like how it plays out?
- 2:40:33Well, because think about it, I mean, it's just numbers.
- 2:40:35It's just like if you put down an amazing lead line where
- 2:40:38you're running like the fat bro line.
- 2:40:40Lot of angle, nice and wide deep into the zones and you do
- 2:40:45everything you need to. Speed doesn't even play a factor
- 2:40:48at that point. As long as you're pushing it to
- 2:40:50the maximum of the ability and you're still completing
- 2:40:52everything, you'll get close to 100% point run.
- 2:40:55So now the chase driver who was trying to glue, glue it to you
- 2:41:00the entire time, In order for that chase to carry weight, he
- 2:41:05also has to put down an amazing lead run to match your lead run
- 2:41:11in order for us to go back to your chase runs and say, where's
- 2:41:14the difference? But I think people will see a
- 2:41:17chase run and see someone get closer and immediately say,
- 2:41:21well, this guy won. That's me.
- 2:41:22And they won't take, they won't take in consideration that the
- 2:41:25lead driver messed up. So that's why they didn't allow
- 2:41:30the proximity to be where it needs to be.
- 2:41:31And I think that's the biggest confusion when it comes to
- 2:41:35battles because there's a lot of times like, well, this guy was
- 2:41:37closer. I'm like, yeah, but when he was
- 2:41:39in his lead run, he messed up in three different spots, you know,
- 2:41:43and. They it's difficult.
- 2:41:44They may be minute, but at at the level of FD, like we're
- 2:41:48dealing with professionals. So minute is minute.
- 2:41:50It doesn't matter. No, I'm like.
- 2:41:51That and you have to make sure your shit's 100% keep.
- 2:41:53It that way. Keep it that way, yes.
- 2:41:55Then you walk away like, well, that's my choice.
- 2:42:00What's this is a good question I guess.
- 2:42:02What's the next goal? What's something you want to
- 2:42:04accomplish? I guess your personal goals,
- 2:42:06your drifting goals, whatever it is.
- 2:42:11Dude. That's FRS, Zach, I don't know
- 2:42:14if you know this person. Yeah, Yeah, he's the FRS.
- 2:42:16I thought. So I would say I don't know.
- 2:42:22I, I think it's really, I think at this point it's just like
- 2:42:24wherever drifting really pretty much needs me.
- 2:42:27I mean, I, I'm, I'm just pleased that I'm able to do everything
- 2:42:30that I'm doing. You are Batman.
- 2:42:33He's a drifting. Disciple.
- 2:42:34Batman is Jed Davis. You are.
- 2:42:37He's a drifting disciple. I, it's maybe just continue
- 2:42:40drifting globally. Like I, I would think like what
- 2:42:43I said about trying to get to Colombia and go drift down there
- 2:42:45and do all that. Like I, I feel like some of us
- 2:42:49are lucky enough where we've gotten to a point where we're
- 2:42:53able to go do like these really fun things, like go drift in
- 2:42:56different countries and find these little nooks that we want
- 2:42:59to go drift. And like, because like me
- 2:43:02competing in a series is the last thing on my mind, you know
- 2:43:04what I mean? Like, I still want like, if
- 2:43:06something pops up, it's like, yeah, let's go do it.
- 2:43:08But like, I know the game. And the game is if you go put a
- 2:43:12video clip together of you doing something amazing, like that
- 2:43:15carries way more weight. And especially if the difficulty
- 2:43:17factors through the roof, you know?
- 2:43:19But it's hard to do it because we've been to almost every track
- 2:43:22on the East Coast. So the only smart thing to do is
- 2:43:25just try to find somewhere else you haven't been and try to do
- 2:43:27something gnarly. Manifest Destiny.
- 2:43:29Well, that's what. Well, yeah, I change.
- 2:43:31Well, I mean, we'll look at Drift.
- 2:43:32Look at Drift Appalachia, right? It's it's popular because yeah,
- 2:43:36it's crazy, it's wild, but it's because you guys have never seen
- 2:43:38that before. I like that it's evolving too.
- 2:43:41It's evolving. Oh, it's evolving.
- 2:43:43It's evolving grip driving, I think.
- 2:43:46From what I saw. Kind of like an homage to
- 2:43:50initial DI. Have nothing to do with that
- 2:43:52part of it because I don't do anything.
- 2:43:53I know I feel like a couple people who might have an homage
- 2:43:56to that and it's that a couple people who are maybe up here by
- 2:44:00us. Well, who's the guy with the
- 2:44:02BMW? Pete.
- 2:44:03Pete. That dude rips.
- 2:44:05I tried to try to keep up with them not drifting in the Z ones.
- 2:44:08That happened. That happened.
- 2:44:10He was gone. Him and Johnny drove.
- 2:44:12Home local toge drivers. Him and Johnny they're.
- 2:44:15They're legit. So that.
- 2:44:17That. Group, allegedly that group.
- 2:44:20If you want to go find out who that group is, just go find
- 2:44:22Pete. Is there a team name?
- 2:44:24No, not well. There is a team name, but
- 2:44:26Johnny's not really. No, Johnny's not affiliated with
- 2:44:28that name, but if you want to go check them out, you can go check
- 2:44:30out Winding Spirit on Instagram. Is that what it is?
- 2:44:32Winding spirit? Yeah, that's tight.
- 2:44:34But they're they're they hypothetically exist.
- 2:44:39And ever since we were younger, that group has existed for very,
- 2:44:43very, very. Long I saw that dude on the on I
- 2:44:46was like yo the the best dude here is ripping up and down in
- 2:44:49his beamer right now there's. He's checked me before because
- 2:44:51we had a group called BM Speed Stars for a while and he checked
- 2:44:55me on Instagram early days. What, like he was like, yo.
- 2:44:58Like he was like, yo, you got BM on your name?
- 2:45:00Like lock it up BM is. And I was like.
- 2:45:03The location where they go. They're like, they're like,
- 2:45:06dude, like. What's a sticker for sticker?
- 2:45:08What's up dude? He.
- 2:45:09Wanted it what? And I said no, he wanted the
- 2:45:11heat. He no, he would have given me
- 2:45:13the fucking heat. Dude.
- 2:45:14These guys are not. They do not fuck.
- 2:45:17Yo, so he like, yo, I'm about this dude.
- 2:45:18So you mean he rolled up on you? Like, yo, what's up?
- 2:45:21He was trying to flex on your spot.
- 2:45:22Yeah. And we're the only team on this
- 2:45:23fucking mountain. I will fucking hand it to you.
- 2:45:25Do a good. Yeah, no way.
- 2:45:27Take it, take it. That's crazy.
- 2:45:29We're in a good spot, man. We got mountain.
- 2:45:30Yeah. Got me.
- 2:45:32Like. That we got you.
- 2:45:33Talent there. That place got I named our group
- 2:45:37that group because that place just brought us all together.
- 2:45:40That group runs the fuck out of that place and they own it so.
- 2:45:44Winding spirit? Yep.
- 2:45:45That's and the place that we're talking about is.
- 2:45:47And they don't really get. They know it, I'm not.
- 2:45:49Going to shout out like that. Often they don't really even
- 2:45:51like it. Oh no, yeah.
- 2:45:53Damn, that's how it was. Three hours into the podcast, I
- 2:45:55don't think anybody's going to find this, but.
- 2:45:57If you but he will be, he will be shot.
- 2:45:59He will be shot. That's.
- 2:46:00Funny. They're the, they're the hardest
- 2:46:02group. They mean every they they, they
- 2:46:04are the ones who dis discipline that area I feel like.
- 2:46:09Yeah, that being brought up another question, Evergreen Toge
- 2:46:12stage ever going to happen? Man the.
- 2:46:14Fact that we even talked about that earlier, that's sick.
- 2:46:17I mean, yeah, I know some people know there's property available
- 2:46:20and stuff like that, but it costs a lot of money.
- 2:46:22There's a lot of zoning, a lot of big boy stuff.
- 2:46:25So and let's, let's face it, trying to convince the Township
- 2:46:28to like, hey, let's do this. I'm sure they would be like,
- 2:46:32yeah, sure. So.
- 2:46:35You know why not? Is there a way to do it?
- 2:46:38I have thought of some clever ways of maybe pulling it off,
- 2:46:41but just. Tell them it's a driveway and
- 2:46:44then you ran out of. Concrete.
- 2:46:45Yeah, I wish. I saw it on Reddit once.
- 2:46:48I even want to be like, oh, well, maybe like, you know,
- 2:46:50doing it where the trees are at, it muffles the noise.
- 2:46:53But like, at the end of the day, like someone's gonna say
- 2:46:56something. So is it impossible?
- 2:46:58No. Could it?
- 2:47:00Probably haven't, Probably not. But it's it's not impossible.
- 2:47:04Do you think if do you think money is the deciding factor?
- 2:47:07I think money, if it's only money, then it has to be a lot
- 2:47:11of money. OK, so you heard it here.
- 2:47:13If you got a lot of money and if you don't care, but it has to be
- 2:47:15a return on your investment. If it's just like I got some
- 2:47:17money but I have connections, I think you're better off having
- 2:47:20connections with, you know, someone somehow to try to make.
- 2:47:24And I think that's how that stuff happens.
- 2:47:26But so anytime soon? Probably not.
- 2:47:28Something like that, that'd be fun as fuck.
- 2:47:29You're the guy to do it, Carl. I just don't know how I don't
- 2:47:32fucking no one reaches out to. Me with these opportunities will
- 2:47:34talk. You guys can figure something?
- 2:47:36Out. I'm just gonna be the guy that's
- 2:47:37driving a little talk to. It'll be like, I'll give you a
- 2:47:40bit. I'll be the person you know.
- 2:47:42You know that you ever. Seen this guy in a suit, he
- 2:47:44looked good. Lightning McQueen, I have worn a
- 2:47:46suit here. Before he could convince some
- 2:47:47people to to do things, I think. But I wouldn't convince.
- 2:47:49You to speak to my associate. I would.
- 2:47:51I would not convince you in a suit.
- 2:47:52I would show up jeans. And T-shirt.
- 2:47:56Nope. Because I'm just like you, man.
- 2:47:58No, stop. That's it.
- 2:48:02Is that Senator Fetterman or whatever?
- 2:48:05I don't think that'd work. Out there, he just walks into
- 2:48:08the Senate with a hoodie on. He.
- 2:48:09Has never you guys never watched this movie in in high school
- 2:48:13where it was it was a door to door salesman named Bill Porter
- 2:48:18selling Watkins products. Did that did that unlock I?
- 2:48:22Don't think so. What was the name of the movie
- 2:48:24or SH? I don't remember but that was
- 2:48:26that movie rings in my head after whatever the fuck we do
- 2:48:30nowadays. It's about being an entrepreneur
- 2:48:33and just not giving up. And shit, was it like a real,
- 2:48:36was it a movie, like a fake movie or was it a like?
- 2:48:38It was a. Documentary that that they
- 2:48:40played Wheeling in the TV unk. We're going to get one of those
- 2:48:45for your month. No, Yeah, we don't.
- 2:48:47We're. Going to get ATV.
- 2:48:48We don't need it. Like science.
- 2:48:49Like yes, substitute TV. That's that's what we watched
- 2:48:52on. And you get the TV that's like
- 2:48:55part of its furniture, like those old style ones.
- 2:48:58Yes. They're expensive now.
- 2:48:59Yeah, I know, but. Pisses me off because we fucking
- 2:49:03threw three or four of those out at my grand great uncle.
- 2:49:07Place I thought you were going to say off of fire escapes.
- 2:49:09That's what we did. That's sick.
- 2:49:11That's some lost boy shit. What the fuck?
- 2:49:14Yo shit, Josh wanted me to tell you that I'm not your unk, I'm
- 2:49:19your big bro. Like 'cause you're related.
- 2:49:23No, 'cause I'm not 50 years old. So is that so?
- 2:49:27Am I an unk? I don't know if you are you.
- 2:49:29Borderline UNK. You're you're his big bro, like
- 2:49:33he's your big bro. He's my big.
- 2:49:34He's your big bro, but he's saying that mean that Reese is
- 2:49:37my unk. Yeah, probably his unk.
- 2:49:40You're probably his UNK, yeah. That's cool.
- 2:49:44You're kind of unk, but Josh was like, he's you're not he's,
- 2:49:46you're not his unk. I can almost picture Josh's face
- 2:49:49when he says that. You know you're not.
- 2:49:52You know, Carl doesn't know what he's talking about.
- 2:49:55I'm like, all right, so Josh is more Gen.
- 2:49:57Z than you are. All right, moving on, dude.
- 2:49:59Josh is tapped in like that. Yeah, I know.
- 2:50:02You know why I know Josh's shoes?
- 2:50:06And he's on I. Josh's shoes and clothes are
- 2:50:08always fine. You ever notice that he's Puerto
- 2:50:11Rican? That's true.
- 2:50:13That's crazy, no? Would you ever notice that he
- 2:50:16brushed out those parachute pants for the first time?
- 2:50:19And I would. Yeah, that.
- 2:50:20Was an yoki that. Was the Yoki style influence.
- 2:50:23Was it? Probably.
- 2:50:24God damn it, I thought it was just.
- 2:50:25He went to Japan once and then he had parachute pants.
- 2:50:28I didn't even. I thought he was just trying
- 2:50:29something new. He is in America.
- 2:50:32Pairing out the boys, yeah. I know, right?
- 2:50:34Like I, I mean, I love Josh. That's why I like the bigger
- 2:50:36pants, because I'm like damn, my knees aren't even touching.
- 2:50:40Hey, he looks good in them, I'll give him that.
- 2:50:44Reese, how do you have? How does he have the grip set up
- 2:50:47differently on the VQ/LS Cool Cats cars?
- 2:50:51Not just tire difference. That's Dan Savage.
- 2:50:55Oh, so with the VA car I like, I'm just trying to get as much
- 2:51:03side bite as possible. So I'm like, I read I
- 2:51:06disconnected the sway wire in order to get that, but I think
- 2:51:11they're set up complete. I don't want to say they're set
- 2:51:13up exactly the same, but obviously the horsepower
- 2:51:16difference is, is definitely going to vary things.
- 2:51:18So I'm definitely searching for grip and stuff like that with
- 2:51:22the the NA 550 set up and with nitrous, it's like dude, you
- 2:51:27know. That's fucking crazy.
- 2:51:29So I think the the biggest, the biggest difference is, is like
- 2:51:35the competition car. I feel like those cars are more
- 2:51:37set up for like maybe 123 laps and then the other one is just
- 2:51:43kind of set up a lot more loose and stuff like that.
- 2:51:45Like currently what you saw like I was asking the toe out.
- 2:51:47Yeah. He's like, can you toe out the
- 2:51:49rear? I'm like, huh?
- 2:51:49Yeah. Like what?
- 2:51:51Well, because I had no grip on the mountain.
- 2:51:54I mean, I mean, excuse me, I had too much.
- 2:51:55Grip on the mountain. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:51:58So like and it was, it was probably whacked out, right?
- 2:52:00Like the whole setup. Yeah, I'm sure it was.
- 2:52:02Did we? Did he give you the alignment
- 2:52:03sheet? I'm sure we had.
- 2:52:04Not I'm sure you can send it to me, whatever, but it's like,
- 2:52:07yeah, I have a lot less grip in the in the VQ car than the grip
- 2:52:11that I have set up in the VA car.
- 2:52:13And that's just because to manage the power, you know, I
- 2:52:16need the grip set up for the horsepower and I enjoy the glide
- 2:52:20and the momentum requirement from the VQ car.
- 2:52:24So two different styles of driving.
- 2:52:26I like both. I like that I can do both.
- 2:52:28So that's cool. Good question too.
- 2:52:33Opinion on the new Origin Lab Drift Line 350Z kit and when
- 2:52:36will it be available for order? Well, we're trying to bring them
- 2:52:39in the next container, so hopefully like four to five
- 2:52:41months. He he tried, he tried.
- 2:52:43He's like. I tried to get him to.
- 2:52:45Buy I was like yo-yo. I just know.
- 2:52:48I just don't think I I'm going to break it.
- 2:52:51I know I'm going to break it. And yeah, that's really what it
- 2:52:56is. I I just know I'm gonna break
- 2:52:57it. Yeah, everything breaks though.
- 2:52:59Yeah, I mean, I look, I give it to Tom and I give it to Josh.
- 2:53:02Like they break it, they fix it. They only get, yeah, they only
- 2:53:04get like one kid a year. Yeah, and, you know, and who's
- 2:53:07the other one that does it all the time?
- 2:53:08Dustin Miles. He breaks it.
- 2:53:10He fixes it, breaks it. This could be you.
- 2:53:12Nope. That's not me.
- 2:53:15That's like. But you want your car to look
- 2:53:17that. Way I do I want it.
- 2:53:19I. Appreciate.
- 2:53:19You got to appreciate the effort.
- 2:53:21The effort is there, like you. You look, look at it this way.
- 2:53:25I tell, I tell the young kids I'm like, you appreciate, like
- 2:53:27the old guy did all of that. And I was like, yeah, it's just
- 2:53:30cool. Like, let me try it, you know?
- 2:53:32But like, if I could get three of those kits, then yeah.
- 2:53:36Rock. What if?
- 2:53:36What if you get one kit and three front bumpers?
- 2:53:42Yeah, that might be something about it.
- 2:53:43The rear bumper's probably going to get ate up a lot too, so.
- 2:53:45OK, so. Maybe, maybe 2 front bumpers, 3
- 2:53:48rear bumpers, yeah. One prize.
- 2:53:51I could see that. You want some frustrating?
- 2:53:53Especially with those wheels, yeah.
- 2:53:56I think you're going to need it launches.
- 2:53:58It dude, you know, we'll say. Z loves to just launch.
- 2:54:02The back, the rear bumper off, especially his, You see how much
- 2:54:04this shit fucking tucks rim and shit like that thing's always.
- 2:54:08He sent me a photo and that thing was talking like crazy.
- 2:54:11I was like. I was almost touching.
- 2:54:12Body kit might not, I know. Work out, but it looks gangster
- 2:54:15when it squats that way. To you?
- 2:54:17Yeah, Not to me. KBD.
- 2:54:18You like that shit too, don't you?
- 2:54:19No. It's on the fucking ground.
- 2:54:21I don't like squat, I drift. I don't like car squatting.
- 2:54:23Ever. Yeah.
- 2:54:24But I'm the wrong person. I talk.
- 2:54:26To I like it, I. Like I think all my friends like
- 2:54:28that shit now but I don't. I never did.
- 2:54:30I don't get it. I want the car to look like it's
- 2:54:32sitting. I want it to be leveled but then
- 2:54:34like when I give it power it like it.
- 2:54:36You know it, really. Goes down just a little.
- 2:54:38Bit yeah, that's Carl. That's me I'm talking.
- 2:54:39I want my shit. I didn't like it now because
- 2:54:42like. Fucking crazy The.
- 2:54:44Front end was too high up so like when it would do it, it
- 2:54:47exaggerated it but now? Now it's actually going to look.
- 2:54:50Now we're leveled. Kind of even I also noticed
- 2:54:53while messing around with your car I I noticed why ZS always
- 2:54:56look like they're dragging ass because the I think the
- 2:54:59difference between the wheel gap and the front is a lot more
- 2:55:01exaggerated on a 350Z. So when you try to make the
- 2:55:04wheel gap straight, let me rephrase.
- 2:55:07That the rear. When you try to make the body
- 2:55:10straight with the ground, which is what I usually try to do, the
- 2:55:13front is almost tucking compared to the rear.
- 2:55:17So it's like you need to you need to lift the front up to
- 2:55:20make the gap look right, but then the car looks like it's
- 2:55:23dragging ass. Not that means you got to have a
- 2:55:26stagger. Double stagger.
- 2:55:28I'm telling you, it's something with the way they designed that
- 2:55:30car. It's just kind of hard to make
- 2:55:32it look right if you want it low. 18191819.
- 2:55:36That no, but I'm talking the opposite.
- 2:55:40Oh. Yeah, that's the problem.
- 2:55:43Am I talking the opposite? Maybe I'm not.
- 2:55:45Maybe you're right. I have to think about it.
- 2:55:48Again, it's 1819 to fill up the gap in the.
- 2:55:50Rear in the rear. I do see that.
- 2:55:52I mean, I see. Even.
- 2:55:52Yeah, maybe you're right. It has to be like what kind of?
- 2:55:55What do you have? The bigger wheel.
- 2:55:57I have 1818 OK. I have square set up in.
- 2:56:00The but then you put a 17 on the front of the car and it's like
- 2:56:02that wheel's small. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:56:03Well, that's not a 17. So you need a 7?
- 2:56:05You need a 1819 on AZ? Let's fucking go.
- 2:56:09What? Where are people doing that
- 2:56:10shit? You said that shit.
- 2:56:13Yeah, he said. He just said he said 18.
- 2:56:15Oh, he's right dude. That's what these people need,
- 2:56:18man. I'm about to run 1819 on my.
- 2:56:20No, you're still. I don't.
- 2:56:21Even wanna do that? No, we're not.
- 2:56:24What do you think about running nineteens in the back?
- 2:56:26No, absolutely not. I'm good.
- 2:56:28Why not? I don't know.
- 2:56:29I just don't know the. Tire is gangster.
- 2:56:31You know why? Because the tire is going to be
- 2:56:33this big Yeah, whatever. There's no side bite there, I
- 2:56:36just. I got it.
- 2:56:36What we're doing if we get AZ, that's 100% happened dude.
- 2:56:40You're thinking about getting AZ.
- 2:56:42If I ever got one for the shot I want to build one really bad.
- 2:56:44You should. You should.
- 2:56:45Yeah, but like, there's a lot. Like I love two 40s, I love two
- 2:56:4840s, but disease are just like, that's just, that's our, that's
- 2:56:53our 240 right now. Yeah, that's I agree.
- 2:56:55Malcolm would learn how to drift.
- 2:56:57And if we and if 19, I feel like if more people would embrace it
- 2:57:02instead of making fun of it. I mean, I mean, I make disease
- 2:57:04all the time. Yeah.
- 2:57:05We were just talking about this. Yeah, I always make fun of
- 2:57:07saying it looks like a mouse pet.
- 2:57:08Like a mouse. Yeah, a computer mouse.
- 2:57:10Or like a little fish. Yeah, like a blowfish.
- 2:57:16Like, like, but it's like, but it imagine it's, it's the one
- 2:57:21car that, yeah, maybe an ugly duckling, but man, it's it's
- 2:57:24really helping spread the word for.
- 2:57:25Drifting ripped I fucking. OK, this is what I think of the
- 2:57:29Z. This is my comparison.
- 2:57:30You know that friend that you always had when you're in high
- 2:57:32school and you're like, this guy hasn't got with any girls, man,
- 2:57:35what can we do? Let's help him out.
- 2:57:36Let's figure out a way. He's a good looking guy.
- 2:57:39And then you bring him out somewhere and you try to wing
- 2:57:41man him or something and then he, every time he opens his
- 2:57:44fucking mouth, ruins everything. That's the Z every time you hear
- 2:57:50that exhaust. What the fuck are?
- 2:57:51You fucking over? You suck.
- 2:57:53It's because it's because the way the VQ.
- 2:57:55What was that? Isn't that a good comparison?
- 2:57:57No, you're like, you're trying to like you.
- 2:58:00We're trying to get you laid with every time you open your
- 2:58:03mouth. You're just an idiot.
- 2:58:04Who? That's AZ.
- 2:58:06Every time you hear that exhaust you're just a fucking idiot.
- 2:58:08That thing sounds terrible. No, no.
- 2:58:10No, I've heard some good ones. You have to have a like honestly
- 2:58:13I I have one of the school cars has a a boiler exhaust on it and
- 2:58:17and it sounds great. Bullshit.
- 2:58:19I would. I would agree.
- 2:58:20I need a sound clips I need. It sounded great, all the other
- 2:58:23school cards that I have. I would give it to Borla they
- 2:58:25they could probably figure out a way.
- 2:58:27Yeah, I mean, it was expensive. I was told much that I went to
- 2:58:29go look to see if I could find another one.
- 2:58:31Was like 1200 bucks. I'm like, I don't know if I
- 2:58:32don't care that much. When I go to, when I.
- 2:58:35For myself, for my own personal car, maybe, yeah.
- 2:58:37But like for the school cars, I'm like, Nah, it's just.
- 2:58:40Oh yeah, when I've drifted AZ before they're sometimes so loud
- 2:58:44that I almost do it purposefully to annoy the people around me.
- 2:58:50I just put my music on. Like, whoa, whoa, just fucking
- 2:58:54just. That's your personality.
- 2:58:56But yeah, boom. I'll put my headphones on and
- 2:58:59like I think when I was at Evergreen at the last one, I
- 2:59:01just had my headphones on. I'm like, I'm not listening to
- 2:59:03this. When you have to put headphones
- 2:59:06on so you don't hear your exhaust.
- 2:59:08But it's like, I mean, I used to, I had my headphones on when
- 2:59:10I'm like on the SIM. So like same same.
- 2:59:13I guess I I see so that when I'm on the SIM, I try to and I try
- 2:59:17to mimic the environment. It's always just music and my
- 2:59:22gloves. Yeah, that's it.
- 2:59:24That's it's so funny, right? I feel so bad because when I
- 2:59:27hear people say they have gloves on for the SIM I'm like what?
- 2:59:31No, but it. But then I wear gloves, those
- 2:59:33those like those driver gloves in real life, and I'm like,
- 2:59:35well, I have no room to talk. Well, because that way.
- 2:59:39Carl's also naked. What?
- 2:59:40What I'm? Feeling like hand wise like when
- 2:59:43I'm spinning the wheel and doing this that and the 3rd when I go
- 2:59:45to my car I'm not switching like how I feel or grip the wheel.
- 2:59:50It's the same fucking feeling. His SIM wheel feels the same way
- 2:59:52as this car that's just loose, that's just about to fall.
- 2:59:55Off like it's my gloves. SIM I don't use gloves.
- 2:59:57I use bare hands. And then when I go to Broadway,
- 3:00:00I'll I'll, yeah, I'll put the gloves on.
- 3:00:03But like people ask me like so like does the gloves help?
- 3:00:05I'm like no dude, I just wear the gloves sometimes.
- 3:00:07I hate. Them, I just think they look
- 3:00:09cool. Yeah, they're like, you think
- 3:00:10those gloves look cool? I'm like, yeah, I'm old and I
- 3:00:12think they look cool. Shut up.
- 3:00:14I like mine because I feel like it makes me look like a go Kart.
- 3:00:17Race you want to hear something really weird?
- 3:00:18I had gloves that were hand me downs and I wore them sometimes
- 3:00:22then I stopped. I was like, I don't want to wear
- 3:00:24these gloves. I don't wear them on the street.
- 3:00:25And then I I started drifting and I would, I would stub my
- 3:00:29hand on my wheel my my thumb way more often or just anytime I
- 3:00:37didn't have gloves on at the I'd be like shifting or something or
- 3:00:40E brake come back up boom stub my thumb.
- 3:00:43I'm like what the fuck Every time I put my gloves on never
- 3:00:45happens. That's funny.
- 3:00:47Doesn't make any sense to me. No glove.
- 3:00:49No glove. It literally.
- 3:00:50Forced me to wear the gloves cuz I was like I'm not trying to do
- 3:00:53that every time. This is the weirdest thing.
- 3:00:55I think it could be mental but it was just weird.
- 3:00:58I can't do the colorful fuzzy gloves that I see people I can't
- 3:01:01do. That I have a specific kind of
- 3:01:03glove that I like if it's just. Right.
- 3:01:06I like mine. Mine are made from like the same
- 3:01:08company that makes all the James Bond ones and.
- 3:01:10Like I've seen. The make of her.
- 3:01:11Gloves. Had like outright.
- 3:01:12Stars, but they're hammy. Downs, my roommate has something
- 3:01:14similar. He wears a glove because he
- 3:01:17likes it. That's it.
- 3:01:18And they're like fingerless. Yeah, that's just Yeah, he's
- 3:01:21fly. So I like the gloves as long as
- 3:01:24they're right here, like they cover my wrist, because then it
- 3:01:28doesn't even look like me in the car while I'm looking at my
- 3:01:31hands and my wheel. And I feel like I'm just.
- 3:01:32Watching a race car driver. I've so I never I never got
- 3:01:36blisters, steering wheels or never it's.
- 3:01:37From my handbrake I know that. And I would almost, for the
- 3:01:40longest time, shill half. What are?
- 3:01:43You. Gripping the fuck?
- 3:01:45I, I just, I, I'm too aggressive.
- 3:01:47What the fuck? Everything I do, I'm just like,
- 3:01:50like, like it's life. It's funny, like in the school,
- 3:01:53everyone does that. He.
- 3:01:55Gripped the shit. Out of it, I'm like, yo, the
- 3:01:57only thing you're going to be aggressive with is maybe no
- 3:02:01ditty that pulling the the hamburger.
- 3:02:02I need, I need to go, I need to go to your school, to be honest.
- 3:02:05With you, everything else, I'm like, hey, you just got to just
- 3:02:07vibe. You're like you're trying to do
- 3:02:08all these movements, like all quick.
- 3:02:10I'm like, yo, do I do that when I'm driving with you?
- 3:02:13No, it looks like you're just doing everything real slow and
- 3:02:15smooth. I'm like, so why are you doing
- 3:02:16everything fast? Like you just got to, you just
- 3:02:19got to feel it. Just ride the wave.
- 3:02:21Bro just dude, yeah, just. And then one of the dudes is
- 3:02:23like, wow, like doing it smooth is like a lot more boring and
- 3:02:26then doing it all crazy. I'm like, no shit, That's yeah.
- 3:02:30But then. But then you throw the crazy in
- 3:02:32later. On well, no, I told him, I'm
- 3:02:34like, when you're doing it by yourself, it's supposed to be
- 3:02:35smooth because there's no one with you.
- 3:02:37The carnage starts to happen when you start doing it and then
- 3:02:40you start mixing two other people in the mix.
- 3:02:43So then instead of you focus on you driving, because you can go
- 3:02:46idle pilot driving by yourself. Now you can focus on everybody
- 3:02:49else. You know what I mean?
- 3:02:51So when you get to the point where driving by yourself is
- 3:02:53literally boring, I mean, and or you're doing it correctly,
- 3:02:56hitting all your marks, then I'm like, yeah, go do tandem then,
- 3:02:59because now you can focus on something else.
- 3:03:01You know what I mean? Like I cannot do single runs.
- 3:03:05Like I'm like, all right. You're every week I got to hear.
- 3:03:07That every week we hear this. Everybody hates single.
- 3:03:10Yeah, I'm not only fucking person.
- 3:03:12I'll do a couple and like if you know what, I'll do single runs.
- 3:03:15If I'm working on my tree turn, I'm like OK, cool, I'll do.
- 3:03:17I'll do single runs. I do single runs and I want to
- 3:03:20show off. Check out this fucking perfect
- 3:03:23run right here. Perfect run.
- 3:03:28To me, I just, that's all that matters.
- 3:03:31To me, that's all that matters. No, and I think you're at that
- 3:03:35point where you enjoy the swinger runs and stuff like
- 3:03:37that. And there was a point that I was
- 3:03:38like that too. And I think all of us were that
- 3:03:39first started out and then after a while, I think after a while
- 3:03:43you go to the track and you're looking for quality laps.
- 3:03:45So you're just like, all right, if I'm going to be here and I
- 3:03:47know I'm going to get like maybe 15 laps today or in this time
- 3:03:51period, like I want to drive and do this, this, this because like
- 3:03:54you're like, OK, I'm going to try to get the maximum out of
- 3:03:56this. You know what?
- 3:03:57I mean I feel the same way though, the single like tree
- 3:03:59turn or the first turn at E town I.
- 3:04:01I love doing that turn alone and trying to go as fast as I can.
- 3:04:05This year I thought that was cool.
- 3:04:06This year that I don't really single single apps are for me
- 3:04:14are fun because then I get to just enjoy the rest of yeah, you
- 3:04:17do one and then you'll get tired of it like you're saying, but
- 3:04:20then afterwards you have that hangout phase because you
- 3:04:24already know what you did the 1. You could do another one and
- 3:04:26then hang out again. Hang out again.
- 3:04:28The cigarette. Yeah, Oh yeah, one. 100% the
- 3:04:31whole sun. The whole sun is just beaming,
- 3:04:34you're watching your friends do the same thing, and the car is
- 3:04:38looking good this summer. That's what I want to do, dude.
- 3:04:40I just want to enjoy. That was.
- 3:04:42You at the last car dude, I just want to fucking.
- 3:04:45You just want a vibe, that's what you.
- 3:04:46Want to do, I just don't want to fucking argue with nobody.
- 3:04:50Then stay away from competition driving.
- 3:04:52Yeah, stay away from that or like.
- 3:04:54That team. Stuff right now just fuck thank
- 3:04:57you guys. You have anything else you want
- 3:04:59to share Reese? It's fucking 10.
- 3:05:00We gotta. Go.
- 3:05:01We gotta go eat. I don't know.
- 3:05:02You have a drift school. Evergreen, YEAH Drift School
- 3:05:05Evergreen Drums, PA Drift School evergreen.com.
- 3:05:09You are a formula drift judge. Formula Drift, Judge.
- 3:05:12So if you want to judge his judging, make sure to check in
- 3:05:14on the formula drift this season.
- 3:05:16For sure you. Know and yeah.
- 3:05:18I'll be at all 8 rounds this time so I'm doing all this
- 3:05:21round. Jesus.
- 3:05:21Awesome. I did five last year, but I'm
- 3:05:23going to do all eight this year. Oh.
- 3:05:24Well, I can't wait for that shit.
- 3:05:26I'm ready. I'm ready to see Brian Hobb
- 3:05:27ready to see you. I'm ready to see everyone doing
- 3:05:29this FD shit. So let's.
- 3:05:30See it. Thank you guys so much for
- 3:05:32listening. This has ever been.
- 3:05:33I don't even Malcolm. What number is this?
- 3:05:36137. I think this one was good.
- 3:05:40This was amazing. This was a good one as far.
- 3:05:41As as far as like quality stuff that we said, yeah.
- 3:05:44Frankie just wants to like literally punt every kid in the
- 3:05:48world. That's.
- 3:05:49Yeah, it didn't start off that. Good.
- 3:05:52It did not start off, people. Never have children.
- 3:05:54Ever. Yeah, I'm sorry, man.
- 3:05:56I just, I'm honest. Thank.
- 3:05:58You guys, goodnight. Bye, goodnight.
- 3:06:02Let's go eat, yeah? We should probably.
- 3:06:04We're gonna think we're gonna eat.
- 3:06:05We better run. I mean, we got an hour, but.
- 3:06:09They're going to see. You.
- 3:06:28Well, that episode was not what I was expecting.
- 3:06:31In the beginning. We were talking about kids and
- 3:06:34was that weird? No, I honestly it was pretty
- 3:06:38wholesome and deep. I guess it was.
- 3:06:40It wasn't dumb at all. All right, cool.
- 3:06:42Yeah, I was hoping I was like, I know I'm going to come off as an
- 3:06:45asshole talking about kids, but. I mean, people relate to both
- 3:06:49spectrums at each end of the spectrum.
- 3:06:51So yeah, I guess so. Love to know what you guys think
- 3:06:55about that whole topic. I brought that shit up and Reese
- 3:06:57was like, he looked like Reese got uncomfortable.
- 3:06:59He's like, OK, well, here we go. Let's talk about something that
- 3:07:01has nothing. I was like, all right, I don't
- 3:07:03know. I just, I just get on here and
- 3:07:05just talk. Yeah, but it also seemed like
- 3:07:07Reese kind of appreciate, appreciated that it was kind of
- 3:07:10just a hangout. Yeah.
- 3:07:12As opposed to some other podcasts he's probably done.
- 3:07:14It's probably more of a. Probably getting questions.
- 3:07:16Straight to the cut interview style, you know?
- 3:07:18It's like an interrogation. Yeah, it's too too car related.
- 3:07:22This one is car and life related.
- 3:07:25Yeah, we were just hanging out. I mean, how often do I get to
- 3:07:27hang out with Reese and actually talk?
- 3:07:29That's the benefit of having ever.
- 3:07:30Yeah, it's the benefit of having somebody on for the second time.
- 3:07:33You can kind of just, you know, continue the conversation and
- 3:07:36veer off because you already know their whole story.
- 3:07:38So. Was that our first repeat guest
- 3:07:40that wasn't a local friend? Because it feels like it was to
- 3:07:43me. Yes, alone, yes, Yeah, yes, I
- 3:07:48believe so. And his first episode is
- 3:07:52definitely top 20 podcasts. It's in my opinion because he
- 3:07:56wanted some crazy shit. I think that episode or I'm
- 3:07:58confusing him with Damien, but I think their stories intertwined.
- 3:08:02I think that they were really close to each other in podcast
- 3:08:06episodes. No, but I think like they, they
- 3:08:08knew each other and they drifted together too.
- 3:08:10So that's why I'm like, I'm confusing some stuff, some
- 3:08:13stories. But yeah, guys, go check out
- 3:08:15that original episode if you haven't, if you haven't listened
- 3:08:18to it yet, if you haven't heard already, we are doing a Stance
- 3:08:22XR1 coilover giveaway on the website.
- 3:08:24So basically every $5 spent gets you an entry and if you buy any
- 3:08:28merch, it's double entries. So make sure you check that out.
- 3:08:31Stance coilovers are pretty much the only coilover we use.
- 3:08:35I would say us and Front Street. If we're, if we're using
- 3:08:39anything else, it's because we can't afford the Stance
- 3:08:41coilovers at at the moment. So Stance has been supporting us
- 3:08:45for years now. I'd say I'd say 5 plus years,
- 3:08:50yeah. So they you can you can get
- 3:08:53those coilovers with anything. Yeah, they they have great
- 3:08:55availability, availability with customer service and replacement
- 3:08:59parts, so. And you can get swift springs,
- 3:09:01you can get custom dampening, you can get custom spring rates.
- 3:09:04You can do anything you want. Yeah, so.
- 3:09:06Good company overall. Yeah, great company and I, I'm
- 3:09:12excited for this one. Last month we did the Origin
- 3:09:15Labo body kit giveaway. We got a lot of orders because
- 3:09:18of that. It seems like people really want
- 3:09:21body kits. But guys, you have to remember
- 3:09:23the stance coil overs are more expensive than that body kit.
- 3:09:26Yeah. So couple $100.
- 3:09:28Yeah. So coil overs, MSRP for 1750
- 3:09:31plus shipping, plus anything custom you want.
- 3:09:34Figure it figure this like if let's say I wanted coil overs,
- 3:09:37right? And I didn't know when I was
- 3:09:38going to buy them, go on the website, buy some shirts, win
- 3:09:43the raffle, order the coilovers. Now I have money to play with.
- 3:09:47So now I'm going to get swift springs.
- 3:09:48I'm just going to be like, yo, can you add these in?
- 3:09:51Just bill me for them. Swift springs, custom spring
- 3:09:53rates this and that Boom your your suspension's done for your
- 3:09:56car for a long time until you got to get them rebuilt.
- 3:10:00But just what like 5 to 10 years later like.
- 3:10:02Yeah, those things last more. Yeah.
- 3:10:04With that coating they have on it, those things last a long
- 3:10:07time. Yeah.
- 3:10:07So I think this, I think this raffle is one of the better
- 3:10:10ones. I'm hoping we can keep these
- 3:10:11going for the whole year because it would it would be nice, but
- 3:10:14it's hard to like find a product that is as universal as coil
- 3:10:18over as. Body kits and everybody could
- 3:10:19benefit from, you know. Yeah, if you guys have any
- 3:10:22ideas, please shoot us Adm with a with any suggestions for our
- 3:10:27next raffle. As for the in shop promotion we
- 3:10:29have going on this month, we now have 20% off vapor honing for
- 3:10:34the month of February. So if you are local or you don't
- 3:10:36have to be local, you can send stuff in, we can have it vapor
- 3:10:40honed for you and we can send it back.
- 3:10:42We're doing 20% off. Yeah, I feel like that's a
- 3:10:45pretty good deal. Yeah, I would.
- 3:10:47I would probably send us an e-mail first with the stuff you
- 3:10:50got and everything and then we'll.
- 3:10:52Yeah, Eddie actually set up a submission form on the website,
- 3:10:57so you could just submit it in there, tell us how many pieces,
- 3:11:00a description, and you could even add some photos and a phone
- 3:11:02number and then we could get back to you from there.
- 3:11:05Awesome. I also forgot to mention, we are
- 3:11:08doing that raffle, that giveaway, but we're also going
- 3:11:11to be trying to push a lot of stance promotion this month.
- 3:11:14So we are working with them for this raffle.
- 3:11:17So we're going to be doing a Stance coilover install on an
- 3:11:21R34 GTT. So we're going to be doing that.
- 3:11:24We of course got Josh's coilovers coming right now the
- 3:11:28XR1 DI, don't know what they're called, some kind of special
- 3:11:34drifting variant, I forget what they call it, but.
- 3:11:36You know. It might be AD one, but I don't
- 3:11:38think it's called that. I got to remember.
- 3:11:41But yeah, his are coming for the S15.
- 3:11:43The only problem is the S15 is getting caged right now.
- 3:11:48It's going to take two weeks. Holy.
- 3:11:49When are we going to get the coil overs?
- 3:11:51I don't know. And then we get them the coil
- 3:11:52overs back and I told Josh we kind of want to paint the the
- 3:11:56engine Bay 1st and everything, huh.
- 3:11:58Yeah, I told him he should get this thing painted before we
- 3:12:00start installing everything. Oh my goodness.
- 3:12:02You know, so that adds some more time.
- 3:12:04So that video might take a while, but we're going to be
- 3:12:06doing some content on those coilovers, some unboxing videos
- 3:12:09and basically try to show you guys a little bit more in depth
- 3:12:13about those coilovers because I personally think those are the
- 3:12:15coilovers you should be buying If you have an S chassis and you
- 3:12:19and you are into drifting, I think those are the only ones
- 3:12:21you should be buying. So yeah, make sure you check
- 3:12:24those out. They're on our website.
- 3:12:25If you don't feel like trying to wait a month and see if you want
- 3:12:29to raffle, you can always just buy them on the website.
- 3:12:31A lot of them are in stock. We do we have any in stock right
- 3:12:33now here? We might have sold out.
- 3:12:35We sold out. We.
- 3:12:36Sold out, yeah, we try to keep a set of 13 and 14 here, but they
- 3:12:40do sell out pretty often. As far as Arrow, we have some
- 3:12:44Origin Arrow coming in the next. I would say end of next week, it
- 3:12:50should be here and it's not a lot of stuff, but there's we
- 3:12:54definitely have fenders. We have a lot of fenders.
- 3:12:58I want to say we might have a 180SX Type 2 hood coming FRP.
- 3:13:03Oh, you crazy. Yeah.
- 3:13:05So you guys might want to jump on that if you're looking for a
- 3:13:08hood because hoods are never here.
- 3:13:10So like I said, FRP, 180SX, Type 2 origin hood that should be
- 3:13:15here. Anything else you can remember
- 3:13:18that's going to be available I feel like.
- 3:13:21It's just a whole bunch of fenders.
- 3:13:22A. Lot of chaser stuff.
- 3:13:23If you if you got a chaser, I think you're good.
- 3:13:26We got rear overs, front overs, probably a body kit or two.
- 3:13:30There's a lot of stuff FRSBRZ rear roof wings.
- 3:13:35Yeah, yeah. Rear wings too.
- 3:13:38Yes, yeah, yes. So a lot of that stuff, we got
- 3:13:41fenders for those cars as well, possibly a body kit or two.
- 3:13:45We got to double check when everything gets here.
- 3:13:47But yeah, we definitely have some origin stuff coming in.
- 3:13:51What else we got going on? On the website, there's a couple
- 3:13:55of new products on there. If, if you feel like you can't
- 3:13:59get the right fitment with your steering wheel, you know, it
- 3:14:01feels too far, it feels, you know, got to reach.
- 3:14:04We have some new works Bell steering wheel spacers.
- 3:14:08Spacers you ever see Julian Jacobs car?
- 3:14:11No. What does that look like?
- 3:14:13You know how tall he is? Yeah, because every time Carl
- 3:14:15sees him, he mentions how tall he is to him.
- 3:14:17Yeah. How fucking annoying is that?
- 3:14:18Anyway, it's Carl, so he's got. So he like sits in the back seat
- 3:14:24of the car pretty much the seats like all the way hitting the
- 3:14:27back seat bump. So how many spacers does he
- 3:14:29have? Oh.
- 3:14:30Shit ton he's got like 2 quick releases, 18 adapters.
- 3:14:33No way. No, I swear to God, no.
- 3:14:35He, he might have actually had two quick releases on at one
- 3:14:37point. I'm not.
- 3:14:38I might not be making that up. But see a picture.
- 3:14:40Yeah, dude, if if you're tall and you're trying to drive one
- 3:14:43of these cars, you got to have a custom set up.
- 3:14:45Yeah, it's it's pretty funny, actually, when you see it.
- 3:14:48That's crazy. And when he gets cars built in
- 3:14:49Japan and stuff, they're always like, what the fuck is?
- 3:14:51They're like the opposite. Who's?
- 3:14:53Driving this thing yeah yes, if you if you have that problem
- 3:14:56too, buy some of these work spell spacers.
- 3:14:59They go from 10 millimetre 15202535 around there.
- 3:15:05And I think you can stack them. I don't know why you wouldn't be
- 3:15:08able to. OK, cool.
- 3:15:09And it comes they come with extended screws to install it
- 3:15:13so. Yeah.
- 3:15:15So that's awesome. Yeah, we got those in stock.
- 3:15:18We're trying to stock a lot of work spell stuff and just have
- 3:15:20it here because last time, what was it, Black Friday?
- 3:15:23People just bought all of it. Yeah.
- 3:15:25It was sold out, so yeah, so we're doing vapor honing, we're
- 3:15:31about to be doing car storage, the room's almost done, and now
- 3:15:34I got to fucking do the floor, unfortunately.
- 3:15:37We'll see how that goes. Also to help with the sales with
- 3:15:43the website, if you spend over $350.00 you will get free
- 3:15:47shipping automatically. This does not apply to any arrow
- 3:15:50orders though, because those boxes are big.
- 3:15:52Big as hell. Big as hell.
- 3:15:54Big as hell yeah. So not applicable for arrow
- 3:15:58orders, but everything else free shipping over 350.
- 3:16:01Dollars. But what if I want arrow?
- 3:16:04Pay up, pay for that ship. Fair enough.
- 3:16:07Anything else, Frank? There's a lot of shit going on
- 3:16:08in the shop right now, but I guess if you want to check that
- 3:16:10out, just check out our YouTube make sure if you haven't
- 3:16:12subscribed already, you do that click the bell notification,
- 3:16:16share it, comment, tell us we're Dick heads.
- 3:16:18Whatever you want to do on there, just make sure you don't
- 3:16:21do that I. Don't think so.
- 3:16:22I mean, some people do it, but that's whatever.
- 3:16:24I'm not going to read it either way.
- 3:16:25Yeah. But anyway, it is the best,
- 3:16:27busiest winter we've had in a while, So thank you so much.
- 3:16:29Thank you, guys. Thank you for the orders last
- 3:16:31month. And you guys killed it on that.
- 3:16:33That was that was amazing. I really appreciate that.
- 3:16:35That's making my life a little easier.
- 3:16:37So nice. Yeah, I can actually pay off
- 3:16:39some of this debt we're in. Nice, haven't kicked the bucket
- 3:16:42yet. I haven't, yeah, I haven't tied
- 3:16:43the noose yet, all right? But guys, we have Patreon.
- 3:16:47You didn't tell them about the Patreon yet?
- 3:16:49Come on now, we got some exclusive content on there at
- 3:16:51weekly shop vlogs. The Eddie uploads.
- 3:16:54It got some, you know, bonus footage, bonus podcasts.
- 3:16:58If we go on the road, you know, and record multiple podcasts,
- 3:17:01we'll throw them up on the Patreon first.
- 3:17:03You got discount codes and codes on the Patreon for damn
- 3:17:07discounted merch for every month?
- 3:17:09Damn. You know what we should do on
- 3:17:11the Patreon? What should we do?
- 3:17:12We should give a monthly coupon code for something specific.
- 3:17:17You know how we run sales every month?
- 3:17:18Yeah, Patreon only sales. Yeah, give them another one.
- 3:17:22Another one. Literally just give them a bunch
- 3:17:24of sales. Go ahead.
- 3:17:26Also, if you if you're fans of Johnny Minaco, you've seen them
- 3:17:29on the podcast a bunch, you should probably join the Patreon
- 3:17:31because we'd be just having them in here talking about random
- 3:17:33shit. Wombats.
- 3:17:35Mountain driving. Yeah, those little exclusive
- 3:17:37podcasts that you guys upload. Yeah, so check those out, check
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- 3:17:44$5.10 dollar $15.00 right. Yeah, go find out which one
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