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Sharri | 16 February · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why On Sky News This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening tonight.
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Speaker 3: Our exclusive just sent a Nampa jimper Price and Andrew Hasty
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Speaker 3: a set to be returned to shadow Cabinet. Sources have
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Speaker 3: told me that several of the talented figures who were
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Speaker 3: dumped under Susan Lee will be returned to prominent positions.
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Speaker 2: More in our scoop shortly.
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Speaker 3: Also on the show, I'll show you the moment of
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Speaker 3: the first ever gunshot at Bondai Beach. It's captured on
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Speaker 3: one survivor's phone. You won't see this anywhere else. That
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Speaker 3: extraordinary video coming up. With Pauline Hanson soaring in the polls,
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Speaker 3: she joins me live tonight. Also, an embarrassing speech Albanezi
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Speaker 3: made as Transport Minister has now resurfaced and it's become
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Speaker 3: a catchy jingle. Ray Hadley will show us the hilarious
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Speaker 3: song a bit later, but first tonight. Uaus Taylor has
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Speaker 3: hit the ground running since he won the Liberal leadership
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Speaker 3: on Friday morning. In just a matter of days, he's
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Speaker 3: clearly articulated the Liberal Party position on key issues that
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Speaker 3: voters actually care about, immigration, housing, cost of living and taxes.
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Speaker 3: His pitch has been impressive, and he's actually surprised many
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Speaker 3: people who had low expectations. Here's Taylor's message today on immigration.
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Speaker 4: We're talking about people who don't accept the most basic
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Speaker 4: beliefs that have made us successful as a country. And
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Speaker 4: we believe in democracy. We believe that you need to
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Speaker 4: obey the law. We believe in basic freedom of speech
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Speaker 4: and religion. And if people don't accept those things, they
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Speaker 4: shouldn't come to our country. The doors should be shut.
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Speaker 5: I mean.
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Speaker 3: He was also asked this morning about capital gains tax
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Speaker 3: and other tax plans from the Albanezi government and here's
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Speaker 3: what he said.
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Speaker 4: You don't impose a tax on something where you want
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Speaker 4: more of them. But that is exactly what labor's proposing
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Speaker 4: to do. This is a bad idea. Only Jim Charmers
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Speaker 4: could come up with it. The truth is the truth
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Speaker 4: is that when labor runs out of money, they come
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Speaker 4: after yours.
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Speaker 2: It's a good line.
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Speaker 3: When labor runs after money, they come after yours. So
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Speaker 3: these are the sort of messages you'll be hearing from
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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor. And you can tell Anthony Albineze is worried
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Speaker 3: about Taylor because he's already rolling out adverts targeting him personally.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, they didn't bother to do this
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Speaker 3: with Susan Lee.
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Speaker 6: So who is new Liberal leader Angus Taylor. He's just
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Speaker 6: another Liberal. He's a leftover from the Morrison government, a
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Speaker 6: shadow treasurer with Peter Dutton. Taylor was the architect of
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Speaker 6: Liberal policies for higher taxes, bigger deficits, more debt, getting
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Speaker 6: rid of work from home, sacking of tens of thousands
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Speaker 6: of frontline workers, and of six hundred billion dollar tax
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Speaker 6: funded a nuclear scheme, and Taylor worked from day one
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Speaker 6: to undermine the Liberals first female leader. Angus Taylor just
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Speaker 6: another Liberal.
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Speaker 2: I mean you look at an advert like that and
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Speaker 2: you wonder why the Liberal Party isn't targeting labor with
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Speaker 2: similar messaging.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much for them to work with.
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Speaker 3: But labor should be worried about Angus Taylor because they've
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Speaker 3: been doing a terrible job governing our country and they
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Speaker 3: know they're vulnerable, but they've been benefiting from the weak
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Speaker 3: opposition and they're worried that this weakness ends now. Now,
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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor has a long road ahead of him. He
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Speaker 3: doesn't only need to win labor voters, but also voters
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Speaker 3: back from One Nation, and poll's today show, as you
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Speaker 3: might have heard already, that One Nation is level with
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Speaker 3: the coalition and Pauline.
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Speaker 2: Hanson will be here shortly.
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Speaker 3: This is the Herald's Resolve poll and it shows that
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Speaker 3: twenty three percent of voters back One Nation compared with
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Speaker 3: the same number twenty three percent supporting the Coalition under
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Speaker 3: Anchus Taylor. Now, Labor has thirty two percent of the
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Speaker 3: primary vote according to this poll. But then you look
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Speaker 3: at it together and together One Nation and the Coalition
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Speaker 3: is sitting at forty six percent. If they formed a
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Speaker 3: governing coalition, they could very well win government. That would
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Speaker 3: be an impossible scenario. It's an interesting idea, but not
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Speaker 3: one that either One Nation or the Coalition is considering.
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Speaker 3: Taylor's immediate goal is to recover the support that's fallen
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Speaker 3: away in the nine months since the federal election and
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Speaker 3: before that. Now, as you know, I've been working on
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Speaker 3: a documentary about the Bondai terror attack. It records the
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Speaker 3: deeply harrowing stories, but also the courage and the inspiration
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Speaker 3: the Australian spirit, and there are so many incredible stories
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Speaker 3: that haven't yet been told. Now in the documentary, we
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Speaker 3: bring you some of these raw, untold stories from survivors,
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Speaker 3: from those who were shot, and from the families of
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Speaker 3: those killed. It's incredibly comprehensive, and you won't believe how
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Speaker 3: many people we've actually got on camera for this fifty
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Speaker 3: seven We've interviewed on camera fifty seven people. I mean,
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Speaker 3: there's nothing like this anywhere else. We pieced together their emotional,
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Speaker 3: incredible stories as they unfolded. Minute by minute, we take
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Speaker 3: you through the attack. Now I'm going to show you
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Speaker 3: now a sneak peak of some of these incredible stories
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Speaker 3: and some very special people who I've now come to
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Speaker 3: know as friends.
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Speaker 2: It was the most fun of kids.
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Speaker 6: Love it just a regular Honoka party.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh my god.
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Speaker 6: They've been a studio with someone who's been dropped. I
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Speaker 6: saw the shooter.
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Speaker 2: What was going through your mind? He was absolutely hunting.
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Speaker 7: I got hit multiple times from I started screaming, how
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Speaker 7: many bullets do you have?
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Speaker 8: I just remember streaming with Tilda.
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Speaker 2: I served my life this picture with the words I
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Speaker 2: love you.
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Speaker 1: Class the man who warned the Prime Minister only to
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Speaker 1: be killed at Gonde, there was like right here, I'm
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Speaker 1: so sorry, And we reveal the incredible truth about a
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Speaker 1: hero's final moments.
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Speaker 9: My dad was money towards the shooters, absolutely the best
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Speaker 9: of Australia.
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Speaker 2: He was speaking out against Dandie Semitism for two years.
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Speaker 8: Things could have been prevented. It's very hard to accept.
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Speaker 2: We are proud Jews.
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Speaker 8: No one is going to take that away from us.
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Speaker 1: Bondy A Timeline of Terror February twenty four US seven
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Speaker 1: thirty pm on Sky News.
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Speaker 3: It's very powerful. It's been very emotional working on this
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Speaker 3: for such a long period of time. There's just you
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Speaker 3: won't see anything like it. I highly recommend you watch it.
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Speaker 3: It's airing next Tuesday night, the twenty fourth of February.
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Speaker 3: So if you still have a paper diary like I do,
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Speaker 3: put it in your diary now or in your electronic
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Speaker 3: one if you have that seven point thirty next Tuesday,
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Speaker 3: the twenty fourth of February.
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Speaker 2: It really is a very special.
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Speaker 3: Documentary and I wanted to honor the victims, which we do,
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Speaker 3: and it tells the story of December fourteenth in meticulous detail. Now,
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Speaker 3: as you might have noticed it at the start of
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Speaker 3: that trailer. At the beginning, there was a mom who
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Speaker 3: was filming her toddler when the first gunshot rang out.
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Speaker 3: She happened to capture it on film. Watch that again.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Moments later that mum was then hiding with her three children,
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Speaker 3: and you can see a picture of that here.
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Speaker 2: The mum took a little video. This is a screenshot
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Speaker 2: from the video.
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Speaker 3: You can see the fear in the faces of her
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Speaker 3: two little girls, her toddler who was on the fences
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Speaker 3: in the blue in the middle there. Now we're going
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Speaker 3: to show you that full video that she took as
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Speaker 3: they were hiding. That's in the documentary. And I really
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Speaker 3: I have to tell you, I believe that this is
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Speaker 3: life changing to watch because there are so many lessons
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Speaker 3: from incredible people every day Australians who found themselves in
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Speaker 3: the middle of this surreal terror attack and they stepped up,
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Speaker 3: They protected their families, and they even saved the lives
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Speaker 3: of strangers they'd never met. And making this documentary, and
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Speaker 3: you know, I've been covering this issue of Andy Semitism
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Speaker 3: for two years, but making this documentary and speaking to
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Speaker 3: everyone fifty seven people who've gone through this has changed
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Speaker 3: me personally. And I'm so grateful to all of the
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Speaker 3: fifty seven people who were brave enough to come on
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Speaker 3: camera and share their very personal stories. They felt it
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Speaker 3: was important to document and tell the world what happened
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Speaker 3: right here, a place you'd never imagine this happening in Sydney, Australia. Now,
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Speaker 3: on that note, Navid Akram appeared in court today before
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Speaker 3: Magistrate Sharon Front. Police have charged him with fifteen counts
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Speaker 3: of murder, forty counts of attempted murder and one count
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Speaker 3: of committing a terrorist act.
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Speaker 2: Carolyn Marcus was there.
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Speaker 10: It was the first time we have seen and heard
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Speaker 10: from Navid Akram since the Bonni shooting. The twenty four
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Speaker 10: year old appeared via audio visual link from Goldburn's Supermax,
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Speaker 10: wearing prison greens, his hair closely cropped. The magistrate asked him,
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Speaker 10: did you hear what just occurred?
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Speaker 2: He said, yeah.
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Speaker 10: Your solicitor is going to give you a call, She said,
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Speaker 10: he replies yep.
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Speaker 3: Police alleged that Navid and Sajim Akram recorded a video
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Speaker 3: in front of ISIS flags where they vowed to take
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Speaker 3: action against Zionists and they explained their motivation for the
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Speaker 3: Bondee attack. Now, Akram's lawyer today was asked what his
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Speaker 3: client would plead.
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Speaker 6: Look he's doing as well?
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Speaker 10: As can be expected, has he indicated any intention of
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Speaker 10: what he'll plead.
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Speaker 6: Look at this stage, it's early and this is a
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Speaker 6: start of a linking matter.
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Speaker 8: Today I was in administry of a German We'll know
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Speaker 8: a little bit more on the eighth of April.
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Speaker 6: Look at the end of the day, there's not much
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Speaker 6: more concern.
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Speaker 3: He faces life in prison if convicted. Now this might
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Speaker 3: make me unpopular, but it is for crimes like this
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Speaker 3: that I really wish Australia had the death penalty. Now,
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Speaker 3: you just heard that the Acrums recorded a video explaining
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Speaker 3: their motivation for the Bondai terror attack in front of
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Speaker 3: ISIS flax and that's the terror group Islamic State. Well,
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Speaker 3: now we learn in the Sunday Telegraph that the families
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Speaker 3: of ISIS terrorists in Northern Syria have applied for Australian passpots.
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Speaker 3: They've lodged their applications with defat Susan Giuliania reports that
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Speaker 3: a senior government source warned that granting the passpots would
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Speaker 3: expose Australians to a detrimental security risk due to the
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Speaker 3: camps being a hotbed of extremism. Now, this is a
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Speaker 3: matter of extreme importance. It's firmly in the public interest.
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Speaker 3: Yet Tony Burke in his department just won't comment. Here's
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Speaker 3: what the Sunday Telegraph reported when asked about the ten
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Speaker 3: passport applications lodged by ISIS brides and children, a Home
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Speaker 3: Affair spokesman said the Federal government does not comment on
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Speaker 3: the circumstances of individuals due to privacy considerations. And you
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Speaker 3: already know how Cage Albanezi and Tony berkwer about this
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Speaker 3: issue in parliament, how they mocked me and Sky News
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Speaker 3: when the Opposition dared to ask them questions about the
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Speaker 3: returning Isis brights. Well, this relaxed attitude isn't good enough.
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Speaker 3: We need to be very clear. These people traveled overseas
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Speaker 3: to join Islamic State, not just to join it, but
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Speaker 3: some of them to fight for Islamic State. Why, why,
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Speaker 3: in the wake of BONDI should Australia allow these people.
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Speaker 2: Into our country. It's disgraceful.
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Speaker 3: Well, as I mentioned, one Nation has surged ahead of
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Speaker 3: the coalition in recent months and joining me now is
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Speaker 3: One Nation leader Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 7: Pauline can do with privacy. It's what's the government policy?
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Speaker 2: You're going to Pauline talking to us there, Pauline, have
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Speaker 2: you got us? I'm sure what's happening there? Have we
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Speaker 2: got Pauline? We're gonna wait to see if we have Pauline.
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Speaker 3: Maybe she thought she wasn't on air yet, but she
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Speaker 3: was very fired up about privacy and government policy.
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Speaker 2: We're just our producers just checking if we have her.
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Speaker 8: Nowt we do? All right?
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Speaker 2: Welcoming back in one nation leader, Pauline? Hands you there, Pauline, Yes,
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Speaker 2: I am hello. Hello, Well you got to let us
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Speaker 2: in now? What were you just so fired up about.
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Speaker 8: Talking about the ISIS brides? Jarry?
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Speaker 7: I really am so furious about this because, you know,
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Speaker 7: if the government kn't a tower, the question whether they're
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Speaker 7: going for privacy reasons.
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Speaker 8: Privacy has got nothing to do with it. We're not
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Speaker 8: asking for the names.
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Speaker 7: What we're saying is are you actually going to allow
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Speaker 7: them to come into the country or not?
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Speaker 8: And the answer is no.
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Speaker 7: And if they won't tell you now, then their attitude
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Speaker 7: is yes, we are considering letting them in the country.
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Speaker 7: Worst thing we can ever do, worst thing i'd post.
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Speaker 3: So they've been they've been lacking transparency from the very start,
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Speaker 3: from the very day Leam Mendes in The Australian broke
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Speaker 3: this story.
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Speaker 2: I mean that was months ago.
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Speaker 3: That was back in August or September last year, and
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Speaker 3: Albanizi was asked about it in parliament. He said the
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Speaker 3: story was wrong. The story was never wrong. New Southewais
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Speaker 3: police confirmed it and from that point onwards.
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Speaker 2: They just have not let the public know.
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Speaker 3: But Pauline, you know, I heard Angus Taylor asked about
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Speaker 3: this by Ben Fodam this morning and he said the
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Speaker 3: Albanese government has questions to answer. He didn't go as
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Speaker 3: far as saying they shouldn't come here.
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Speaker 7: What do you think, well, they shouldn't come here, Cherry.
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Speaker 7: I've said that right from the very beginning. We don't
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Speaker 7: need them. These people, these women went over, supported their
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Speaker 7: men to fight in terrorism and against Avolius our lures.
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Speaker 7: You know, Angus Turler wants to appear as if right,
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Speaker 7: I'm in tune with the Australian people. He will never
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Speaker 7: go far enough either of the Libs because the Moderates
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Speaker 7: won allow him to do it. Sharry, We're in a
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Speaker 7: situation now in Australia. We can either go down one
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Speaker 7: path and we will reap the you know, the rewards
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Speaker 7: of our tough stance against Islam and the radicalization that
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Speaker 7: we were facing, or if we open up the borders
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Speaker 7: allow more in the country, we're going to suffer. Future
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Speaker 7: generations will as other countries have, like France and Denmark
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Speaker 7: and England and all these other countries in Canada, all
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Speaker 7: these ones who thought, oh well, we'll welcome them. I
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Speaker 7: tell you what, I've got no time for the radical Islam.
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Speaker 7: Their their religion concerns me because what it says in
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Speaker 7: the Qur'an we are they hate Westerners and that's what
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Speaker 7: it's all about. You know, you say, oh, well, there's
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Speaker 7: good Muslims out there.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm sorry, how can you How can you know?
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Speaker 7: Tell me there are good Muslims if gearhad is ever
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Speaker 7: called and people must understand this, go and research, go
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Speaker 7: and understand about this, and the ones that will suffer
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Speaker 7: as those.
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Speaker 8: Jews did on that you know, when they were murdered
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Speaker 8: and slaughter. That's what we've got to realize could happen.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of moderate Muslims in
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Speaker 3: Australia who are, as you put it, good Muslims. But
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Speaker 3: I think we can agree that radical extremist Islam that
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Speaker 3: doesn't support Australian values has no place here. I just
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Speaker 3: want to pick up on I remember that, Yeah, the
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Speaker 3: leaked Liberal policy today that proposed visa bands from terror
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Speaker 3: controlled regions across thirteen countries. We might get them up
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Speaker 3: on the screen. You know some of the places you mentioned,
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Speaker 3: countries like Afghanistan, Palestine, Lebanon, etc. This was prepared under
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Speaker 3: Susan Lee. This policy leaked in the on Sky News
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Speaker 3: and in the paper in the Australian today. Do you
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Speaker 3: support a policy like this or do you think this
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Speaker 3: might be discriminatory? Do you think it might be better
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Speaker 3: just to have a values test?
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Speaker 8: No, it's not just I totally agree with it. Why
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Speaker 8: wouldn't you?
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Speaker 7: But also the fact is that's only regions within those countries.
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Speaker 7: It's about thirty seven regions.
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Speaker 8: But chariata go a bit further.
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Speaker 7: If those countries will not take back their citizens, if
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Speaker 7: we want to deport them, if they won't take them back,
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Speaker 7: then don't give them visas, don't allow them to come
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Speaker 7: into this country. We have to have an agreement with
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Speaker 7: a lot of these countries that people imply to come
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Speaker 7: here as migrants or visa holders. Because once they get
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Speaker 7: into Australia, then they use our system against us and
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Speaker 7: the court system so they can stay in the country
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Speaker 7: if the countries won't take them back, like a lot
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Speaker 7: of the boat people that came in, they actually then
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Speaker 7: destroyed their passports and if we did find out where
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Speaker 7: they're from, a lot of the countries wouldn't take them back.
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Speaker 7: We have to get over that and we have to
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Speaker 7: say it right, well, you take them back, they won't
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Speaker 7: don't allow them into the country.
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Speaker 3: Just to another topic this story, former Victorian Premier Jeff
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Speaker 3: Cannett urging the Coalition to cut a preference deal with
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Speaker 3: One Nation ahead of the Victorian election. He basically said,
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Speaker 3: it's reasonable that forces on the right after unite to
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Speaker 3: end the long running labor government in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of this idea.
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Speaker 7: It's the only way that we can do to get
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Speaker 7: rid of the jusenter Allan government. And she's the follow
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Speaker 7: on from Daniel Andrews that have destroyed the state. Yes,
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Speaker 7: we do, we need to work together. And it's a
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Speaker 7: change of tune from Jeff Kennett because he hated me,
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Speaker 7: he hated One Nation what we stood for. But they're
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Speaker 7: realizing they've seeing the writing on the wall, and to say,
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Speaker 7: you know, for jess what's her name, the leader in Victoria, Wilson, JEFFS.
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Speaker 8: Wilson.
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Speaker 7: If she says, you know about one nation, that type
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Speaker 7: of anvil, you know she needs to actually go and
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Speaker 7: have a look at our policy and get a head
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Speaker 7: out of the sand. If she says she doesn't want
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Speaker 7: a preference with us and all the rest of it,
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Speaker 7: because they won't win it without one nation's preferences and
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Speaker 7: working together, and that's what it's all about. If she's
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Speaker 7: determined to turn Victoria around, get it out of the
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Speaker 7: hands of the corrupt governments that been Daniel Andrews and
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Speaker 7: Jasandra Allen, and get that cut that state back in
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Speaker 7: you know, the whether it's not in debt and what's
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Speaker 7: happened at state. She has to work with one nation.
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Speaker 3: Just turning quickly before you go to the federal Liberal Party.
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Speaker 3: What do you think of what you've been hearing from
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Speaker 3: Angus Taylor now that he's been in the job for
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Speaker 3: three full dates or four full days.
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Speaker 7: Look, it's encouraging and I think that he's presenting himself
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Speaker 7: far better than what Susan Eli did, which is encouraging.
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Speaker 7: But I've got I've got to look at this Jane Hume, and.
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Speaker 8: You know I've got to question her.
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Speaker 7: You know, she's actually it was one of the people
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Speaker 7: the vote against my proposal will have a Senate inquiry
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Speaker 7: into gender dysphoria about these kids being mutilated. The parents
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Speaker 7: wanted to have an inquiry. She actually voted the Liberal
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Speaker 7: Greens against it. You know another thing too, You know,
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Speaker 7: she's got to realize that if she wants to represent
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Speaker 7: all the strands, you allow the Senate querry to go
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Speaker 7: ahead so that parents can bring their cases forward to
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Speaker 7: us to say what has happened to their children with
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Speaker 7: hormone treatment and dysploryer that's happening. But another thing too,
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Speaker 7: I think she's very condescending, and I think she's an
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Speaker 7: elitist and snob. When she says, well, you've got to
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Speaker 7: talk a bit slow if you're going out the country,
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Speaker 7: I think that's rude.
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Speaker 2: When I missed that, when did she say she did.
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Speaker 7: In an interview that she did, When she did an
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Speaker 7: interview in Sunrise and she said, well, you really need
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Speaker 7: to talk a bit slower so that they can catch on,
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Speaker 7: I think it was rude.
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Speaker 11: For her to say that.
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Speaker 7: So if she wants to represent all the strands, get out,
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Speaker 7: get out of Bloody to you know, the snobbish area.
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Speaker 7: And I understand what Australians how they're feeling out there,
21:05
Speaker 7: so they need to get their act together, and you know,
21:08
Speaker 7: stop saying that One Nation is a protest party or
21:12
Speaker 7: we haven't got policies. We've got more policies up there
21:14
Speaker 7: than what the Liberal Party have and they keep pinching
21:16
Speaker 7: One Nation's policies.
21:18
Speaker 8: So you know, we're not a protest party.
21:21
Speaker 7: We're a party for the people of this nation and
21:23
Speaker 7: I'd like to see more of that from the Liberal Party.
21:26
Speaker 7: Work with One Nation so we can get rid of
21:28
Speaker 7: the most toxic government, the Labor and the Greens out
21:31
Speaker 7: of this out of the government.
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Speaker 8: That's what I want to work towards. Work with me,
21:35
Speaker 8: don't work against me.
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Speaker 2: All right, Pauline Hanson, appreciate your time. Thank you.
21:40
Speaker 3: I have to have to try and find that Sunrais
21:43
Speaker 3: interview overnight and see if she did in fact say that,
21:46
Speaker 3: because I haven't heard that Jane Hume said anything of
21:48
Speaker 3: the sort. I just just want to say again, this
21:51
Speaker 3: is just coming from me as an Australian jew that
21:55
Speaker 3: I don't support what Pauline Hansen just said. Of course,
22:00
Speaker 3: I believe the vast majority of Australian Muslims do agree
22:05
Speaker 3: with our values and they do have a place in
22:08
Speaker 3: Australia and they should be here.
22:09
Speaker 2: And it's just the.
22:11
Speaker 3: Vocal minority that support radical Islam, extremist Islam, that are
22:18
Speaker 3: causing problems. And you know you've seen clips from those
22:22
Speaker 3: groups on Sky News, you know, even tonight Chris Kenny
22:25
Speaker 3: played some from Sheikh Ibrahim Dadoun. So I just wanted
22:29
Speaker 3: to make that very clear again.
22:32
Speaker 2: All right, well let's bring it out panel tonight now, Brohman,
22:36
Speaker 2: Bishop and in Melbourne Steve Price. Great to see you both.
22:41
Speaker 2: I want to start with the Liberal leadership with both
22:43
Speaker 2: of you as well. Brown.
22:45
Speaker 3: Do you think I mean, you were very diplomatic on
22:47
Speaker 3: the show last week when it looked like there was
22:49
Speaker 3: going to be a change of leader.
22:51
Speaker 2: Can you now speak a bit more freely? Do you
22:53
Speaker 2: think Angus Taylor's the right person for the job.
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Speaker 12: Yes, I do.
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Speaker 11: I think you don't know how someone's going to be
23:02
Speaker 11: until they actually get the job, and then you can
23:04
Speaker 11: see a blossoming. And I thought He's been done very
23:06
Speaker 11: well and I think he can get the leadership that's needed.
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Speaker 2: Steve, what do you think?
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Speaker 3: I agree a lot of people had quite low expectations,
23:16
Speaker 3: and like Bromwo just said, you sometimes don't know until
23:19
Speaker 3: they actually are in the job.
23:20
Speaker 2: Have you been surprised?
23:24
Speaker 5: Jury is still out for me? I mean, whoever leaked
23:26
Speaker 5: that immigrant so called immigration policy today that was on
23:30
Speaker 5: Sky and in the newspapers as not doing him any favors.
23:36
Speaker 5: I mean we have now John O'donnheham and Paul scar
23:40
Speaker 5: saying that they had nothing to do with it. Well,
23:42
Speaker 5: they were the shadow immigration and shadow Home Affairs spokespeople who.
23:46
Speaker 13: Drew it up.
23:47
Speaker 5: Well, the only thing you can, really, you can some eyes,
23:50
Speaker 5: is that came out of Susan Lee's office and someone
23:52
Speaker 5: in that office apparently either got hold of it and
23:56
Speaker 5: leaked it or someone else decided to leak it. That
23:59
Speaker 5: show that internally they're still fighting each other. I just
24:04
Speaker 5: don't that is a disaster to let that go on
24:08
Speaker 5: the day when Taylor's out there making a major economic speech.
24:11
Speaker 5: I mean, he would be filthy.
24:13
Speaker 11: That that happened.
24:15
Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with everything Steve Price just said
24:18
Speaker 3: that Bromen. But you know, to think they've been sitting
24:21
Speaker 3: on this for nine months, it could have helped them.
24:24
Speaker 3: We've seen how voters have moved to Pauline Hansen. You
24:27
Speaker 3: know that the polls, all of the polls are very clear.
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Speaker 2: And yet they don't release it.
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Speaker 11: She released almost on the day of the demonstration outside
24:36
Speaker 11: the town hall. Might have been an interesting outcome, but
24:40
Speaker 11: look it. These things happen in politics. I mean, you'll
24:43
Speaker 11: always find someone who's a bit disgruntled whatever, and you've
24:47
Speaker 11: seen it lots of times Steve as I have. But
24:50
Speaker 11: the reality is that they've now got a credible leadership
24:53
Speaker 11: team going forward. Susan had a tough time. She did
24:58
Speaker 11: take the poison chalice. She conducted herself, particularly over what
25:02
Speaker 11: happened in Bondai, with great strength and great compassion, and
25:06
Speaker 11: I think we all appreciate what she did. It was
25:08
Speaker 11: important in the whole way it was covered. But now
25:13
Speaker 11: we have to move on. We have to have policies
25:16
Speaker 11: that are in place that they will meet the needs
25:19
Speaker 11: of the Australian people and will say this is what
25:22
Speaker 11: we will do now when Angus Taylor says the door
25:26
Speaker 11: will be shut, that's what got to be what he means,
25:29
Speaker 11: and that's an extension of the policy of John Howard.
25:33
Speaker 11: If you like, we will decide who comes to this
25:36
Speaker 11: country in the manner in which they come. Now, that's
25:39
Speaker 11: been the policy of the Liberal Party since the Tampa
25:43
Speaker 11: and it's got to be reinforced. And then that means
25:47
Speaker 11: that the new leader is going to have to spill
25:50
Speaker 11: it out.
25:52
Speaker 3: Steve, you just heard, you know, Pauline Hansen there. How
25:55
Speaker 3: do you reflect on, you know, the incredible search in
25:59
Speaker 3: a voter support compared to the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 5: Well, in the Boston state of Victoria, you can understand
26:08
Speaker 5: it very easily because the Liberal Party down here has
26:11
Speaker 5: been a disaster. I think Jess Wilson's had a good start,
26:15
Speaker 5: but prior to that, there's been leader after leader after
26:18
Speaker 5: leav They fought each other all the time, and so
26:21
Speaker 5: they weren't fighting the worst government in the history not
26:24
Speaker 5: of just Victoria, but probably Australia, which is riven with corruption.
26:29
Speaker 5: The CFME EU report last week was just staggering. Fifteen
26:33
Speaker 5: billion dollars flushed into the hands of organized criminals according
26:38
Speaker 5: to that report. So you can understand why one nation
26:41
Speaker 5: support is going through the roof I'm not sure though,
26:45
Speaker 5: that Jess Wilson will do a preference deal with one nation.
26:48
Speaker 5: I get the sense Pauline doesn't think that will happen.
26:51
Speaker 5: I know Jeff Kennett suggested it, but I just can't
26:55
Speaker 5: with our system of voting. I'm not sure that's going
26:58
Speaker 5: to happen.
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Speaker 3: You just hope Pauline support that idea. I mean, she
27:03
Speaker 3: says it's the only way they can win.
27:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, she will support it, But I don't think the
27:08
Speaker 5: Liberals here will. They're so riven with division that they
27:11
Speaker 5: won't let that happen. I mean, there's going to be
27:13
Speaker 5: a by election in the seat of the Pan in
27:15
Speaker 5: the next couple of weeks, and one Nation's going to
27:18
Speaker 5: stand a candidate in that. I mean, we could very
27:20
Speaker 5: well see the Liberals lose that seat after Sam Groth
27:24
Speaker 5: spat the dummy and walked out on the people who
27:26
Speaker 5: voted for him. So we're just going to have to
27:28
Speaker 5: wait and see. But look, Victoria is such a basket case.
27:32
Speaker 5: But I'm still not prepared here tonight on your show
27:36
Speaker 5: to concede that Labor won't win the election in November.
27:39
Speaker 5: It's sixteen seats. Everyone talks about how bad the government
27:43
Speaker 5: is it's a huge ask and the Liberals have got
27:46
Speaker 5: a very big job. I can see Labour getting back again.
27:51
Speaker 2: Terrifying thought Bromin.
27:52
Speaker 11: I think it's important that Jess Wilson looks at reality.
27:56
Speaker 11: Steven says Teal candidates, Labor candidates, Green candidates last, and
28:03
Speaker 11: you can do whatever you like in the middle, but
28:06
Speaker 11: those have to go last. That effectively gives you an
28:10
Speaker 11: effective method of transferring support. I've used the term accommodation
28:15
Speaker 11: because the usual political terms, people get their back up
28:19
Speaker 11: and want to interpret in a different way. But if
28:22
Speaker 11: you say those three Teals, Labor, Greens last, Yeah, all right.
28:27
Speaker 11: I just wty one percent of people we were told
28:29
Speaker 11: the other day in a survey follow the harder vote card.
28:33
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I don't want to run out of time
28:36
Speaker 2: to cover Grace Tame.
28:38
Speaker 3: So on the show last week we spoke about how
28:40
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi was refusing to condemn Grace
28:44
Speaker 3: Tame for her globalize the into Farder comments from Gadigul
28:48
Speaker 3: to Gaza.
28:49
Speaker 2: Well, now Pennywog's the same.
28:51
Speaker 3: So I want to show you what Pennywog had to
28:53
Speaker 3: say when she was questioned by Michaulia Cash have a.
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Speaker 14: Look in terms of the comments by miss Tame during
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Speaker 14: the visitor President Hetzov from Gaddigle to Gaza globalize the Interfata.
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Speaker 14: Do you condemn those comments?
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Speaker 15: Senator, We're going to do a cycle of outrage? Are We've?
29:16
Speaker 15: You had an opportunity as your party to do what
29:19
Speaker 15: the Executive Council of Australian Jury asked us to do,
29:22
Speaker 15: which was for the Parliament to ensure stronger provisions against
29:27
Speaker 15: hate speech. Not only did your party refuse to vote
29:31
Speaker 15: for it, you yourself were absent from the chamber.
29:36
Speaker 2: I mean, Steve, she just couldn't condemn Grace Tame for
29:40
Speaker 2: those comments. What is wrong with these people?
29:44
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what's wrong with them. I mean, seriously,
29:47
Speaker 5: Anthony Albanese in pennywe keeps saying we've got to turn
29:50
Speaker 5: down the temperature. That's what the Prime Minister said during
29:53
Speaker 5: question time last week. Well, how's that turning down the temperature?
29:56
Speaker 5: How's not condemning Grace Tame for those outrageous moments that
30:00
Speaker 5: she made in front of that crowd. Not turning down
30:02
Speaker 5: the temperature? How is it the hate laws have not
30:05
Speaker 5: been used against grace time. Why is there not a
30:08
Speaker 5: police investigation into what she said? Has she been questioned?
30:11
Speaker 5: If she hasn't been, why not? And will Chris Mins,
30:15
Speaker 5: who's much more sensible on all of this stuff, will
30:18
Speaker 5: he tell his police commissioner that he'd like him to
30:20
Speaker 5: have a look at it.
30:21
Speaker 2: I don't think he has the power to direct police.
30:24
Speaker 5: But you know, Kelly Stoners, he can suggest it.
30:27
Speaker 13: Well.
30:27
Speaker 3: Kelly Sloane was on the show last week and she
30:30
Speaker 3: said it publicly. She said there should be an investigation
30:32
Speaker 3: into whether that phrase does or does not incite violence
30:37
Speaker 3: Brumen very very quickly.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely it should be inciting violence. Great shame is her name.
30:43
Speaker 11: And seriously, when I watch Penny Wong, it's time she left,
30:48
Speaker 11: it's times she left the ministry, at the times she
30:50
Speaker 11: left Parliament because every time it doesn't matter what the
30:53
Speaker 11: topic is, she says it's too hard. I'm just going
30:55
Speaker 11: to give you the flick. She is not engaged. She
30:58
Speaker 11: is embarrassment as the Foreign minister. As time she went
31:01
Speaker 11: as for Alberanisi, what he is doing, tricky little bloke
31:04
Speaker 11: that he is. He tried, he saw the polling showed
31:07
Speaker 11: him when he wouldn't have the Royal Commission that the
31:11
Speaker 11: Australian public were turney against him. So then he says, oh, well,
31:14
Speaker 11: I'll invite her told and I'll do all this sort
31:17
Speaker 11: of thing and I'll apologize. Now he's losing the Muslims
31:20
Speaker 11: who are coming out against him. Kaiser treads back in
31:23
Speaker 11: there with his words remember him from Aliy. Yes, well
31:27
Speaker 11: he's back in the game. You see that he's trying
31:31
Speaker 11: now to get back with the Muslims. He's just trying
31:34
Speaker 11: at every trick to keep the Muslim voters in Western Sydney.
31:39
Speaker 11: He has no moral compass, that man none. That's why
31:43
Speaker 11: I've always called him Albo the.
31:44
Speaker 3: Trot spot on nickname. Brommen, Steve, thank you both so much,
31:50
Speaker 3: truly appreciate your time. All right, still ahead, Farmer Israeli
31:54
Speaker 3: hostage Emily de Maari has some sharp words for Queers,
31:58
Speaker 3: for Palestine supporters, Brus who's in who's out of Angus
32:02
Speaker 3: Taylor's shadow Ministry.
32:03
Speaker 2: Ray Hardley will be here.
32:04
Speaker 3: To break it down and our exclusive on Just Enterprise
32:08
Speaker 3: and Andrew Hasty after the break right, welcome back and
32:15
Speaker 3: joining me now Radio Legend as always in a Monday,
32:17
Speaker 3: Ray Hardley, good to see you, Chari.
32:19
Speaker 12: Can I just first of all address something that I
32:22
Speaker 12: was outside watching. I've been dealing with Pauline since nineteen
32:26
Speaker 12: ninety six, Okay, I was on talkback radio there and
32:31
Speaker 12: I know you were distressed. I could see your apology
32:33
Speaker 12: to the Muslim people who may be watching the program.
32:37
Speaker 12: Make that mistake. Pauline's thoughts are not shared. I was
32:40
Speaker 12: typified for forty years at the right wing shock jock
32:43
Speaker 12: and I'm proudly wearing that tag. But we don't all
32:46
Speaker 12: think like Pauline Hanson. I can assure you many Muslim people,
32:50
Speaker 12: many Muslim people who were part of my life and
32:53
Speaker 12: are great Australians. And what Pauline said was just wrong,
32:58
Speaker 12: really wrong. And one other thing, the thing about Jane,
33:01
Speaker 12: whom wasn't said recently. It was October last year. She
33:04
Speaker 12: was interviewed by Natalie Barr. It was a throwaway line
33:06
Speaker 12: and said you had a chance of joining the Nationals
33:08
Speaker 12: and said I've got a talk slower. I mean, she
33:10
Speaker 12: thought it was funny. It probably wasn't funny, but it's
33:12
Speaker 12: not a recent thing. And to bring it up now
33:14
Speaker 12: four months later, you know, Pauline, look.
33:19
Speaker 16: I like you.
33:20
Speaker 12: I like her as a person, but sometimes she gets
33:22
Speaker 12: that wound up like a spring and she says things
33:25
Speaker 12: that she shouldn't say. And I think that the fact
33:28
Speaker 12: that she's empowered by the polls, she thinks she's got
33:32
Speaker 12: to keep driving that wedg and I think she's wrong.
33:35
Speaker 12: I think she's wrong. Pauline, you were wrong saying what
33:38
Speaker 12: you said, and you owe the vast majority of Muslim
33:41
Speaker 12: people an apology for what you said. I'm sky on
33:43
Speaker 12: News tonight, I'm afraid just.
33:45
Speaker 3: As you were speaking, Ray, I was reminded of of
33:48
Speaker 3: one incredible person I met recently through my coverage of
33:53
Speaker 3: the Bondai terror attack. And he's a Muslim Australian and
33:57
Speaker 3: he's actually an Uber driver and he just happened to
34:00
Speaker 3: be driving through Bondai in the night.
34:02
Speaker 2: He got out, he ran into help. He's been he was.
34:05
Speaker 3: Helping so many people. But what makes him so extraordinary
34:08
Speaker 3: is not just that. It's that he's been coming back
34:11
Speaker 3: to the vigils with the Jewish community at Bondi every week.
34:15
Speaker 3: I mean, we him and I now text each other
34:18
Speaker 3: all the time. This is just one example of someone
34:20
Speaker 3: who doesn't share the values of the extremist islam isis flat.
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Speaker 12: He's the majority.
34:27
Speaker 2: He's the majority.
34:28
Speaker 12: Exactly exactly why we don't want the wrong people coming here,
34:32
Speaker 12: she said, and A saying, as Taylor is trying to
34:34
Speaker 12: enunciate a bit clumsily at the moment, but you know
34:38
Speaker 12: we want good people come exactly in the main we
34:40
Speaker 12: do get good.
34:41
Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to a bit of this intel
34:43
Speaker 3: I've got about the shadow cabinets that's.
34:45
Speaker 2: An't going to be out.
34:47
Speaker 12: Around what did I give you give?
34:51
Speaker 2: Can you give your mail? Okay? Great double act here,
34:53
Speaker 2: so I think it will.
34:57
Speaker 3: My exclusive is that just In and Nampajim and Andrew
35:01
Speaker 3: Hasty will be returned to shadow cabinet. Sources have also
35:05
Speaker 3: told me that several of the talented figures who were
35:08
Speaker 3: dumped under Susan Lee will be rightly returned to prominent positions.
35:11
Speaker 3: Sarah Henderson is understood to be another Okay.
35:16
Speaker 17: Ray, your male well coincides with yours.
35:19
Speaker 12: The only difference I'd make is they're probably not going
35:21
Speaker 12: to get the position they want. I don't think they're
35:24
Speaker 12: going to be really senior positions, but they'll be welcomed
35:27
Speaker 12: back into shadow cabinet. All sorts of suggestions that Andrew
35:31
Speaker 12: Hashley should get defense well as a former army man.
35:35
Speaker 12: Maybe that's right. I don't know about your hit a price,
35:38
Speaker 12: membership a price. I think there's a bit of a
35:41
Speaker 12: worry that she's vastly inexperienced as a politician. She is
35:46
Speaker 12: very well intended, and she certainly gravitates with the electorate.
35:49
Speaker 12: She's popular there. But I think that sometimes she might
35:52
Speaker 12: just go off target a bit, and so I think
35:56
Speaker 12: she'll be returned, but not in a senior position.
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Speaker 3: One of the other positions that everyone's speculating on it,
36:04
Speaker 3: but no one seems to know for certain, but heavy
36:08
Speaker 3: speculation that Jane Hume won't take Treasury and that that
36:12
Speaker 3: will go to Tim Wilson. He's, you know, as you know,
36:15
Speaker 3: the only Liberal who won a seat from the tap.
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Speaker 12: He's got to be rewarded for it. I mean, I
36:20
Speaker 12: think that's a very important thing. But I mean there'll
36:24
Speaker 12: be a battle over that, I'm sure. But I think
36:27
Speaker 12: you might be right about Wilson.
36:28
Speaker 3: I mean, he'd be much better than Tat O'Briant. I
36:30
Speaker 3: really think Ted did such a bad job. I mean,
36:32
Speaker 3: you've got to have someone who can take on Jim Charmers.
36:35
Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers is their most polished performer. You need someone
36:39
Speaker 3: who can take him on it, and Tim Wilson would probably.
36:42
Speaker 2: Do a really good job at that.
36:43
Speaker 12: I think. I think doctor Chalmers is full of bluff
36:45
Speaker 12: and bluster myself.
36:47
Speaker 2: Well, you can take him on Ray, I'd love to
36:49
Speaker 2: take him on.
36:50
Speaker 12: But anyway, I mean, you know he he's was on
36:52
Speaker 12: Paul Keating. Of course, Paul Keating. What about the Prime
36:57
Speaker 12: minister channeling Paul Keating?
37:00
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that the souflay doesn't raise twicely?
37:03
Speaker 12: You know the thing about the Prime Minister, I don't
37:06
Speaker 12: think he's had an original thought in his entire parliamentary career.
37:10
Speaker 12: I think he's been promoted beyond his station in life.
37:13
Speaker 12: I have said many times, but when you sit down
37:16
Speaker 12: and Keating was the best. He was the best at
37:18
Speaker 12: cutting through the opposition on the floor of Parliament. No
37:22
Speaker 12: one was any better than him. So why would you,
37:25
Speaker 12: as the current prime minister, change one word? Can a
37:30
Speaker 12: soufflay rise twice? That was about the late Andrew Peacock.
37:35
Speaker 12: Can it rise once about angers? I mean who I
37:39
Speaker 12: was sitting around the table and he says, let's brainstorm this.
37:42
Speaker 12: I know what I'll do I'll change one word of
37:44
Speaker 12: Paul Keating's really cutting remark about Andrew Peacock, and I'll
37:48
Speaker 12: make it my own at a labor conference. I mean, really,
37:51
Speaker 12: is that the best you can do?
37:54
Speaker 3: And he's got a couple of good speech writers, so
37:55
Speaker 3: that was a surprising fail. Now we've got to talk
37:58
Speaker 3: about this song because I well, I said earlier, we should.
38:02
Speaker 2: We let's play the hips first.
38:04
Speaker 12: Yeah, you gave her that, and then I'll tell you
38:07
Speaker 12: how it all occurred, because it did occur a long
38:09
Speaker 12: time ago.
38:09
Speaker 3: All right, Well, this is one of Albanize's most embarrassing
38:13
Speaker 3: moments in his career. It was when he was Transport minister.
38:16
Speaker 3: And you've probably seen this online, but he stole lines
38:20
Speaker 3: from the movie The American President.
38:22
Speaker 14: Have a Look, we have serious challenges to solve, and
38:26
Speaker 14: we need serious people to solve them.
38:28
Speaker 12: We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious
38:31
Speaker 12: people to solve them. Tony Ebatt is not the least
38:34
Speaker 12: bit interested in fixing anything.
38:36
Speaker 2: Bob Rumson is not the least bit interested in solving it.
38:40
Speaker 5: He's only interested in two things.
38:42
Speaker 12: He is interested in two things, making a strange afraid
38:45
Speaker 12: of it.
38:45
Speaker 9: Making you afraid of it and telling them who's to
38:48
Speaker 9: blame for it?
38:49
Speaker 1: And telling you who's a blame for it.
38:52
Speaker 2: I guess he's got better speech writers now that he
38:54
Speaker 2: did beat Well maybe not, I mean, but now the
38:57
Speaker 2: Robertson Brothers have poked fun, have listened to this jingle?
39:02
Speaker 8: How they.
39:09
Speaker 5: Still that speech from the move?
39:16
Speaker 1: All right?
39:16
Speaker 2: So ray tell us where did this all come from?
39:19
Speaker 12: I played the devil out of it in twenty thirteen.
39:22
Speaker 12: It's a long time ago.
39:23
Speaker 17: It's a lifetime ago because back then the Robertson Brothers,
39:26
Speaker 17: who were still performing to this very day, they were
39:29
Speaker 17: writing jingles for the Continuous Call Team my Rugby League
39:31
Speaker 17: program when I was also doing a talkback program, and
39:35
Speaker 17: we happened upon that and they put it to a
39:38
Speaker 17: song which we hammered. And then Ben English from the
39:41
Speaker 17: Telegraph heard the song over the weekend and said to me,
39:44
Speaker 17: why don't we put it in your dt TV today?
39:47
Speaker 12: And apparently it's gone mad on YouTube. So there's a
39:49
Speaker 12: whole range of people who didn't hear it thirteen years
39:51
Speaker 12: ago who are now hearing it today on YouTube and
39:54
Speaker 12: other services, and it's.
39:55
Speaker 2: Getting picked up everywhere. Yeah, what's old is new? Embarrassing?
39:59
Speaker 2: For him. I am embarrassing for him.
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Speaker 12: Now, I just you know, I mean, I wonder how
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Speaker 12: Michael Douglas feels about.
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Speaker 1: Ray.
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Speaker 2: Always great to have you on the show. Thank thank you,
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Speaker 2: and you two all be here all right?
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Speaker 3: Still to come new movement in the Search for Savannia
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Speaker 3: Gathrie's mum with a DNA test and a glove plus.
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Speaker 3: SBS rejects a film on anti semitism because it.
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Speaker 2: Might be inflammatory. That's next.
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Speaker 3: Well, the Public Broadcaster SBS has rejected a short film
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Speaker 3: about anti semitism in Bondi, saying it was worried the
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Speaker 3: content could be seen as inflammatory across some communities. Well,
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Speaker 3: here's a clip from the rejected film, and joining me
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Speaker 3: now is the funder of this film, the Jewish Australian
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Speaker 3: Screen Fund head Jamie BOLCOA.
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Speaker 2: Jamie, thank you so much for your time. Good to
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Speaker 2: see you. So what was your reaction when SBS rejected
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Speaker 2: this film?
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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me, Shari. I mean, it's a sad
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Speaker 9: state of affairs when the public broadcaster in this country
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Speaker 9: tells a Jewish filmmaking team that a film won't be
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Speaker 9: accepted for acquisition because of potentially inflammatory content. And I
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Speaker 9: just want to emphasize that there is absolutely nothing inflammatory
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Speaker 9: about this film, potentially other than the fact that it's
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Speaker 9: made by Jews and it's about the Jewish experience.
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Speaker 3: So why do you think they came up with this excuse?
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Speaker 3: I mean, do you have any insight as to what
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Speaker 3: went on behind the scenes.
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Speaker 9: Essentially from the very beginning of submitting the film for acquisition,
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Speaker 9: I was told that there were potential sensitivities, community concerns,
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Speaker 9: there was fear of pushback in the current climate. They
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Speaker 9: specifically referenced the climate of rising anti Semitism, which you
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Speaker 9: know is kind of ironic and deeply offensive considering that
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Speaker 9: this film was created specifically because of the climate of antisemitism,
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Speaker 9: and to sort of have that thrown back at us,
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Speaker 9: you know, it's sort of an inversion of reality and
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Speaker 9: I don't think it's acceptable language.
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Speaker 2: Well, can you tell us a bit about the film,
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Speaker 2: you know, what it is, who made it, and what
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Speaker 2: it's actually about.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, So it was one of four films that we
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Speaker 9: commissioned about post October seven life in Australia. So we
42:41
Speaker 9: sort of wanted to capture the changed landscape for Jewish
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Speaker 9: Australians in this country and Masusaman was one of the
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Speaker 9: four films, and it's written and directed by Jacob Muhammad,
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Speaker 9: a Sydney cider, and you know he tackled this theme
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Speaker 9: head on. It's about a young man, proudly passionate man
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Speaker 9: called Yossi who wants to wear his Jewish identity with pride.
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Speaker 9: And he sees his neighbors remove their mazuza from the
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Speaker 9: door post, and you know, he thinks this is the
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Speaker 9: worst thing you could ever do, you know, like, why
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Speaker 9: would you want to hide who you are? But his
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Speaker 9: neighbors feel that, because of everything that's going on, that's
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Speaker 9: the only way to keep themselves safe, and so Yossi
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Speaker 9: essentially decides that he can't accept that and it's I
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Speaker 9: guess through that decision of being true to who he is.
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Speaker 9: But he sets in motion a series of events that
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Speaker 9: unfortunately end, you know, with deadly consequences. And the film
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Speaker 9: sort of explores that tension between visibility and safety. You know,
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Speaker 9: at what point is is it okay to tell the
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Speaker 9: world who you are? And at what point is it
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Speaker 9: better to hide?
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Speaker 3: We know that the arts industry, I mean, there's so
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Speaker 3: many examples of it has a real problem when it
43:48
Speaker 3: comes to anti Semitism. I mean, is this something that
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Speaker 3: you personally have noticed or seen around you that Jewish
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Speaker 3: creatives are treated differently to other Australians.
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Speaker 9: It definitely does seem to be the case.
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Speaker 2: I mean there is.
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Speaker 9: One of the reasons I started the Jewish Australian Screen
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Speaker 9: Fund is because there's no representation of Jewish Australians on
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Speaker 9: screen in scripted film and television in this country. And
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Speaker 9: that means nothing funded by Screen Australia, nothing funded by ABC,
44:15
Speaker 9: nothing funded by SBS or any of the other funding bodies. Now,
44:18
Speaker 9: at some point, when you've got projects, you know, with
44:21
Speaker 9: different Jewish themes going in for funding and none of
44:23
Speaker 9: them are getting up, you have to ask, at what
44:26
Speaker 9: point is it coincidental and at what point does it
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Speaker 9: suggest potentially something more systemic. And from my personal experience,
44:34
Speaker 9: I feel that there is an institutionalized resistance to supporting
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Speaker 9: these themes and it's something that we're sort of grappling
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Speaker 9: with across the entire screen sector. I've personally called on
44:44
Speaker 9: the heads of all of the major screen organizations to
44:46
Speaker 9: engage with us in having these conversations, because I think
44:50
Speaker 9: that the first thing is to acknowledge there's a problem,
44:53
Speaker 9: you know, because otherwise we can't expect anything to change.
44:56
Speaker 9: And I think also, you know, Jillian C. Eagle has
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Speaker 9: made a number of recommendations to the Prime Minister about
45:03
Speaker 9: particularly targeting the cultural and arts sector in terms of
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Speaker 9: holding you know, recipients of taxpayer taxpayer grants accountable, specifically
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Speaker 9: when they're amplifying anti Semitic rhetoric or false narratives, and
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Speaker 9: you know, based on as up to this afternoon, there's
45:19
Speaker 9: still been no acceptance of those recommendations.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's very disappointing. I agree with you, all right, Jamie,
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Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Thank you.
45:29
Speaker 3: Still to calm Marco Rubio gives a powerful speech with
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Speaker 3: lessons for Europe and new movement in the search for
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Speaker 3: Savannah Guthrie's mum with DNA.
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Speaker 2: Tests and a glove. That's next. We're US Secretary of State.
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Speaker 3: Marco Rubio has given a powerful speech in Munich with
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Speaker 3: warnings about mass migration and borders.
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Speaker 18: But we must also gain control of our national borders,
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Speaker 18: controlling who and how many people enter our countries. This
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Speaker 18: is not an expression of xenophobia, It is not hate.
46:03
Speaker 18: It is a fundamental act of national sovereignty and the
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Speaker 18: failure to do so is not just an abdication of
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Speaker 18: one of our most basic duties owed to our people,
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Speaker 18: it is an urgent threat to the fabric of our
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Speaker 18: societies and the survival of our civilization itself.
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Speaker 3: And Skynese contributor Kosher Data is with us now, Kosha,
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Speaker 3: what were the strong messages from a spacheon and how
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Speaker 3: was it received by the European latest?
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Speaker 13: For me, Shari, I couldn't help but look at it
46:37
Speaker 13: in contrast with JD Vance's speech at exactly this conference
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Speaker 13: one year ago, and I think the substance of both
46:43
Speaker 13: speeches were similar when you really boil it down, So
46:46
Speaker 13: they very much are in sync in terms of this
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Speaker 13: administration's view towards the world and towards Europe, but the
46:53
Speaker 13: style was vastly different. Where Jada Vance was very confrontational
46:56
Speaker 13: bad cop, here Mark Rubio was very conciliatory and diplomatic
47:01
Speaker 13: good cop. And he is the chief diplomat, and he
47:03
Speaker 13: took more of a shared approach to the threats that
47:06
Speaker 13: both the Europe and the United States are facing similar
47:08
Speaker 13: threats and if you want Western civilization to prevail, we've
47:11
Speaker 13: got to work together, and I think the audience received
47:14
Speaker 13: it very well. He got a standing ovation and I
47:16
Speaker 13: looked back. Jd. Vance certainly did not after his speech
47:19
Speaker 13: last year.
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Speaker 2: Another topic form Israeli hostage.
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Speaker 3: Emily Damari. She spent four hundred and seventy one days
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Speaker 3: in Gaza. She's actually in Australia at the moment. She
47:29
Speaker 3: was speaking at Cawfield Synagogue and she made this excellent point,
47:33
Speaker 3: have a look.
47:35
Speaker 2: Well, was gay?
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Speaker 15: What would you do in.
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Speaker 1: Like straights and keep it?
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Speaker 10: I just feel fortunately for those people on your quilt.
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Speaker 15: Sign of Queen.
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Speaker 2: She's gay, she's engaged to her girlfriend. But Kosher such
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Speaker 2: a good point.
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Speaker 13: It sure is she hid her sexual orientation in her
48:09
Speaker 13: four hundred and seventy one days in captivity because she
48:11
Speaker 13: knew that she would be tortured, presumably to even greater lengths.
48:16
Speaker 13: And that right there in the point that she makes
48:17
Speaker 13: exemplifies what we know with this coalition of the Fringes
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Speaker 13: and these people who support what they believe to be
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Speaker 13: the oppressed in the world just don't have a coherent
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Speaker 13: worldview and they support contradictory things that don't make sense
48:28
Speaker 13: and really kind of expose them for not being really
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Speaker 13: fighting for what they believe in, but just trying to
48:34
Speaker 13: fight against what they perceived to be the power structures
48:36
Speaker 13: in the world.
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Speaker 2: And those admissions.
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Speaker 3: What she says there in the Lunger version is that,
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Speaker 3: you know, she'd said to one of the Hermas terrorists,
48:44
Speaker 3: if your brother was gay, what would you do? And
48:46
Speaker 3: he says, murder him, So you know, it's pretty clear cut. Finally,
48:51
Speaker 3: new movement in the search. Financi Gus Tree Kosher tell
48:55
Speaker 3: us the latest about the DNA test and the glove
48:59
Speaker 3: found near her home.
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Speaker 13: Yes, the headline, unfortunately is there is still no arrest
49:05
Speaker 13: and no sharp suspect fifteen days in. But they did
49:08
Speaker 13: recover a pair of gloves a few miles outside of
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Speaker 13: her home. They were able to extract DNA from it.
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Speaker 13: No reporting right now suggesting that that DNA matches any
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Speaker 13: DNA that may or may not have been found in
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Speaker 13: the crime scene, but it is somewhat of a lead.
49:21
Speaker 13: And then the other big thread to the story is
49:23
Speaker 13: doorbell cameras of neighbors in and around that time the
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Speaker 13: night before the week before are emerging with similarly looking
49:31
Speaker 13: shady characters in the middle of the night prancing around
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Speaker 13: on other people's porches, which at a minimum doesn't lend
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Speaker 13: a lot of confidence to this. But maybe they are
49:40
Speaker 13: the same person or their accomplices. But no hard breakthroughs
49:43
Speaker 13: just yet.
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Speaker 2: Savannah's relased another statement here. It is.
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Speaker 19: It's been two weeks since our mom was taken. We
49:54
Speaker 19: still have hope and we still believe.
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Speaker 16: To whoever has her or knows where she is. But
50:11
Speaker 16: it's never too late, and you're not lost or alone,
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Speaker 16: and it is never too late to.
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Speaker 12: Do the right thing.
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Speaker 3: So sad kosher. Just in thirty seconds. What is the
50:31
Speaker 3: leading theory being reported in the US media? A robbery
50:36
Speaker 3: or targeted?
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Speaker 13: It feels targeted given that she has been taken from
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Speaker 13: her scene and she has a famous daughter. But to
50:45
Speaker 13: be honest, there aren't any compelling theories popping out. There's
50:48
Speaker 13: sort of a wide array of them, and that's what
50:50
Speaker 13: makes this whole thing a little bit mysterious.
50:51
Speaker 2: In a head scratcher, Yeah, very emotional messages coming out
50:57
Speaker 2: from Savannah and her family, but yeah, just situation.
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Speaker 3: Kosha. Thank you very much for your time, and that's
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Speaker 3: all from me tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eight.
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Speaker 3: And right now, the man himself, Paul Murray in the
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Speaker 3: man Cave,