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Marriage Is For Broke Women? Dating Up, Millionaire Mindsets & Remy Ma said what? · So Shameless

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  Speaker 3: If you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Let me start my little I'm in here all right,
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  Speaker 4: we are back in the stew with Taja and Amany
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  Speaker 4: Imani Imani. Which one do you like better?
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  Speaker 3: Ye'll be honest with you. I don't even be caring
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  Speaker 3: these days no more.
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  Speaker 2: What is it supposed to be?
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  Speaker 3: The many many? You know what, I'll take that back.
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  Speaker 3: I do prefer Manny today. It's my real name. That
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  Speaker 3: Emani ship was just on some R and B try
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  Speaker 3: and get some pussy ship.
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  Speaker 2: It.
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  Speaker 3: Trump? How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 4: I apologize for not shouting you out.
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  Speaker 3: That's got to start with the guests. You know I'm here.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm just like acting like you're not here
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  Speaker 4: because you got the head on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going with Mandy first. Okay, I think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: go with Mandy first. It's all, let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Everything that you write.
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  Speaker 5: If you're a woman that is focused on making more,
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  Speaker 5: having your own career, breeding your own money, absolutely, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is gonna be my hot take, and
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  Speaker 2: no shade to either.
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  Speaker 5: We're only three minutes, and I know I think marriage
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  Speaker 5: is for broke bitches, and so I think a woman
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  Speaker 5: who wants to be married is leaning more into the
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  Speaker 5: patriarchy and wants to be essentially possibly taking care of
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  Speaker 5: how their man as the leader. All of the ideals
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  Speaker 5: for me of what marriage looks like is that. So
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  Speaker 5: I just saw my friends recently this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, did you want to be married? I
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  Speaker 2: literally said yeah when I was poor as a woman
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  Speaker 2: who can now like provide for herself, also.
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  Speaker 5: Doesn't want motherhood and also sees a lot of these
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  Speaker 5: celebrity women now having to continue working because they have
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  Speaker 5: to pay alimony. I mean, we have even podcasters now
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  Speaker 5: paying alimony. Shout out to Rachel lindsay, like, there's all
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  Speaker 5: these people that once you make a certain amount of money,
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  Speaker 5: if if you're a man, doesn't you have to pay
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  Speaker 5: them out?
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  Speaker 2: And I just don't want to say that that's a tick.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to be that also.
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  Speaker 6: Why you look stressed out because I just feel like
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  Speaker 6: all humans need to do is take the time to
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  Speaker 6: get to know the people that you're dating and having
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  Speaker 6: sex with. And yes, you can be swindled, people can pretend,
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  Speaker 6: but if you're actually taking the time to get to
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  Speaker 6: know someone, you won't end up in a situation where
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  Speaker 6: you're paying money out to a man because you picked
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  Speaker 6: a man, or got chosen by a man that has
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  Speaker 6: solid character that is of your level, and even if
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  Speaker 6: he's not at your level, he still has solid character
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  Speaker 6: that he's not trying to take you for all you got, Like.
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  Speaker 4: Did you not just tell us a whole story off camera?
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  Speaker 2: Did I end up with him? I found out what
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 3: For a minute. It could have went left.
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  Speaker 2: Listen and you know what, I should have taken my
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  Speaker 2: own advice. I did you.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't do I didn't take the time to do
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  Speaker 6: the due diligence that I wanted what I just said,
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  Speaker 6: Yes in your body, my man?
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  Speaker 2: What did I just say? I didn't take the time
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  Speaker 2: to do the dud.
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  Speaker 4: So what makes We were just talking about people giving
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  Speaker 4: that advice the ship that they didn't even go through
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  Speaker 4: or don't do, and you're sitting in here doing the
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  Speaker 4: same thing.
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I just went through it.
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  Speaker 6: And that's how I can say that, take the time
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  Speaker 6: to get to know someone well and know.
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  Speaker 2: Who you fucking with you. I'm a great liar, bro Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I can lie with my whole being. That's disgusting.
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  Speaker 3: I'm surproud of that. I lie on myself.
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  Speaker 4: I can lie to myself and be offended that you
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  Speaker 4: think you know the truth about me, and you do.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm mad at you for thinking.
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  Speaker 2: That you're a sociopath.
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  Speaker 6: And that's why I don't fuck with Pisce's men because
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  Speaker 6: never and I'm as but the men are very different
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  Speaker 6: from the woman, and I would I could never in
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  Speaker 6: my life ever ever.
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  Speaker 3: That whole that whole statement a salute to Mandy Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The whole statement goes back to what I was saying earlier.
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  Speaker 3: People just gotta stop personalizing the experience and then and
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  Speaker 3: then generalizing the rest of the world for it. So
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  Speaker 3: I think what she said was based off of her
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  Speaker 3: own experience. She says she wanted something when she was broke,
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  Speaker 3: so you've internalized that every other woman would want the same.
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  Speaker 3: There's women out here who want to be married, who
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  Speaker 3: want a companion, really want companionship. They not want to
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  Speaker 3: looking simply because they want to be taken care of us.
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  Speaker 3: So I think I think what she says is true
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  Speaker 3: for herself and for other women who are like minded,
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  Speaker 3: But to generalize it in the sense of saying, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's for a broke bitches, like every single woman
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  Speaker 3: would end up being a broke bitch wanting marriages. And
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  Speaker 3: I know she doesn't believe and that's an old clip,
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  Speaker 3: And I know she doesn't believe that because her co
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  Speaker 3: host is not a broke chick and she's engaged, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I know she I know
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  Speaker 3: she knows that that's not the case. I just think
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  Speaker 3: when we get caught up in certain moments and we
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  Speaker 3: speak from such a true space from our own experience,
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  Speaker 3: we all generalize it in a way where it sounds
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  Speaker 3: like we're representing the rest of the world what you do.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not mad at what she said me either. I
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  Speaker 7: think she went to the extreme because you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 7: on the podcast you just try to shit. You'll say
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  Speaker 7: something that's a little provocative, you know. But I get
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  Speaker 7: how it's less appealing when you got bred. And more importantly,
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  Speaker 7: she said she didn't want a family, she didn't want kids. Yes,
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  Speaker 7: so it's kind of like, you know, you get to
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  Speaker 7: a certain age you don't want a family. You're great financially,
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  Speaker 7: and to your point, maybe companionship ain't necessary for you.
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  Speaker 7: You got a good friend network, like you're good so sound.
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  Speaker 2: Cool when.
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  Speaker 3: I get that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this much.
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  Speaker 3: And I think because we're not able to look ahead,
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  Speaker 3: we don't really understand what living alone and being alone
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  Speaker 3: even with money looks like some lonely shit. I've seen
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  Speaker 3: a lot of wealthy, rich people miserable as fucking Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They can go out, they can do everything, they can
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  Speaker 3: do every vacation in the world, but there's nothing, like
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  Speaker 3: Billy d said it, the greatest you ever watched Mahogany.
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  Speaker 3: Go watch Mahogany Chats Mahogany. He looks Diana Ross in
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  Speaker 3: the face. His success is nothing without somebody to share
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  Speaker 3: it with, y'all.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm just gonna ask one question. What about
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  Speaker 7: a life partner as opposed to get married though?
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  Speaker 2: Cool?
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  Speaker 3: Life partner? I mean yeah, that.
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  Speaker 7: She just don't want to sign no paperwork, cool cool.
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  Speaker 4: I disagree with O, y'all. Mandy is not speaking from
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  Speaker 4: her own personal experience. In my opinion, I've seen a
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  Speaker 4: lot of rich women shed the need for a man
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  Speaker 4: and not having to deal with what quote unquote men's bullshit. See,
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  Speaker 4: marriage for women historically has been so that they are
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  Speaker 4: taken care of. They like, they don't need that no more.
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  Speaker 3: They don't. Once you're once you're rich, once you have
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  Speaker 3: certain money, you don't need what traditionally a man would
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  Speaker 3: have added to.
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  Speaker 4: Your life as a wife. That's an excuse, but I've
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  Speaker 4: seen it actualized. Look at we We've seen several rich women.
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  Speaker 4: What's the girl Diane Ross's daughter Traceailor Ross?
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  Speaker 3: I want to get married?
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  Speaker 4: You're like, for what I can have an iddies, niggas,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not getting married to one.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think that. I think that sometimes and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying for her or man to anybody else,
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  Speaker 3: but I think for a lot of women in that position,
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  Speaker 3: it becomes the excuse because they've done a lot of
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  Speaker 3: bad decision makings early on, and they've just gotten old
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  Speaker 3: enough to way of just accepted and become very comfortable
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  Speaker 3: with not finding something else, Like they've settled, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: fuck it, all of a sudden, I got my money,
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  Speaker 3: I got I can do whatever. Fuck it, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: just be single.
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  Speaker 2: Like I think there's two sides of that.
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  Speaker 6: I think there's women that are like that, where it's
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  Speaker 6: like I did make a lot of poor decisions and
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  Speaker 6: I'm here now, so fuck it. I got all this money,
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  Speaker 6: I can travel, I have friends. I'm just gonna focus
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  Speaker 6: on that because when I did have the chance, or
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  Speaker 6: when I did have that great guy didn't execute or
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  Speaker 6: I fucked it up. I think there's also the other
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  Speaker 6: side of it that there are women that have word.
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  Speaker 6: You know, they took the time to really they went
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  Speaker 6: to good schools, they were very educated, and they also
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  Speaker 6: have good carriacter. They're like, you know, they've worked on themselves.
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  Speaker 6: And now that I'm at this level, I'm having a
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  Speaker 6: harder time meeting men because I spent so much time
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  Speaker 6: focusing on.
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  Speaker 2: Bettering myself talk about that.
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  Speaker 6: Now that I'm a better woman and I'm right for someone,
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  Speaker 6: the picking isn't there for me because the men that
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  Speaker 6: are of my catible caliber, they're already taken because instead
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  Speaker 6: of fucking with this guy and fucking him up or
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  Speaker 6: dumping on him or whatever, I was making sure that
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  Speaker 6: I was ready or I was taking the time to
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  Speaker 6: be the right type of woman.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it goes both both ways.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think those women wouldn't date down if they
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  Speaker 4: found a good gun.
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  Speaker 2: It depends.
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  Speaker 6: Some women are willing to date down, some some no,
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  Speaker 6: not all, And then there's some women that are, like
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  Speaker 6: I've spent so much time and so much money doing
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  Speaker 6: this for myself and becoming this version of myself that
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to date down.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not saying that I agree or disagree.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that is a thing.
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  Speaker 6: It is, and there's and there are men that are
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  Speaker 6: like that on the other side too, Like, listen, I
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  Speaker 6: could have exactly what I'm looking for in the type
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  Speaker 6: of part or that I want, but I might have to.
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  Speaker 2: Date down to forget her. Because the women that are
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  Speaker 2: at my level at.
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  Speaker 3: This most men date down.
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  Speaker 6: I do know that most men date down, but I
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  Speaker 6: think that there are I don't think most men date down.
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  Speaker 3: Most men date down. I think today that still is
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  Speaker 3: a true statement that.
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  Speaker 2: Most men date down.
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  Speaker 3: Most let's not say, are willing.
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  Speaker 2: Moment successful men like men that are highly okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: okay men ego most men men, Most men are not successful.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mean nothing.
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  Speaker 2: People are not successful.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just saying I really don't mean nothing anything.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean anything. Ego runs Men's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: men's motives that I will moves right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, So we still.
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  Speaker 4: Generally because a lot of men get past that and
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  Speaker 4: don't have to deal with that, you know, ego. They've
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  Speaker 4: they've killed their ego quote unquote, it's the thing going on,
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  Speaker 4: but they're not going to mess with somebody that challenges
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  Speaker 4: their ego. This is why older men date younger women.
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  Speaker 4: There's this is the history of patriarchy.
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  Speaker 3: Have you guys ever dated for the fellas? You guys,
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  Speaker 3: ever dated someone who made more than you?
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  Speaker 4: I just talked about this other day and I said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't and I don't go after women that have
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  Speaker 4: more than me like that I have.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, have you and not just make more, like made more,
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  Speaker 3: way more known, like just just everything was just more
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  Speaker 3: in comparison to what I thought I was bringing to
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  Speaker 3: the table.
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  Speaker 2: What was that dynamic like for you? It was not.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't pleasant and not so much because it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: an ego thing for me. It was how she treated
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  Speaker 3: the situation, how she came to the table acting. Also,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of men end up paying for the mistakes
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  Speaker 3: of shit that happened in the past, and with a
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  Speaker 3: lot of okay, rich, successful, well known whatever. Women, they
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  Speaker 3: feel like, I'm here, I got here without you, niggas,
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  Speaker 3: So what the fuck I need you? For you? It's
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  Speaker 3: just like it's too much, it's too much hurt, just bitter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's like it's a lot of cavalier.
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  Speaker 2: Feel Yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that that's in every situation. They
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  Speaker 3: get that back.
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  Speaker 4: They can get in that bag anytime they feel like
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  Speaker 4: like this, nigga, you just walk downstairs in the wrong
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  Speaker 4: moment and they like, well, nigga, I don't need you
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  Speaker 4: in my house just walking downstairs whenever you want.
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  Speaker 3: Like, bro, I don't like.
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  Speaker 4: Being in a situation where women feel like she could
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  Speaker 4: just back that, like, I'm the real bread winner around
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  Speaker 4: here and you ain't on my level. Like that don't
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  Speaker 4: feel good as a man, It just doesn't. You could try,
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  Speaker 4: because you see her character, you like her. You could try,
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  Speaker 4: but that card being right there to be able to
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  Speaker 4: be played.
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  Speaker 3: That's tough.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if men can back that card
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  Speaker 4: out on the way women can back that guard out
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  Speaker 4: on men.
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  Speaker 3: Financial abuse is a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I don't have a percentage of women that I like this,
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  Speaker 7: but there are some women that are successful there. They're
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  Speaker 7: doing well financially and in their career, and they know
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  Speaker 7: what's missing, and they know that a good partner, somebody
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  Speaker 7: that can be with them companionship is missing, so they'll
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  Speaker 7: put that at a high regard and won't treat you
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  Speaker 7: in that way. I don't know what percentage of women
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  Speaker 7: are like that.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's other women on the other side who
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  Speaker 3: are that and are not self aware and don't know
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  Speaker 3: that there's sometimes the problem and the reason why they
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  Speaker 3: don't think there are problems because they come with all
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  Speaker 3: that other ship that they feel is the key factor
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  Speaker 3: to being in a relationship, having a career looking good,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like yo, all right, Cool, you got all that,
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  Speaker 3: but mentally you are a little fucked up, and it's
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  Speaker 3: some ship. You need to go sit with doctor Ziono
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  Speaker 3: for whatever and go figure that shit out. And I think.
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  Speaker 6: It's a lack of discernment and also a lack of foresight,
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  Speaker 6: because again, it sounds good and it feels good when
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  Speaker 6: all your friends are still alive, when your parents are
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  Speaker 6: still alive, when your siblings are still alive. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: don't need a companion, but people don't think about you're
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  Speaker 6: going to grow Oh even people not want to have
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  Speaker 6: wanting to have kids anymore. I understand the way the
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  Speaker 6: world is in the economy, but again that's a lack
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  Speaker 6: of foresight because one day you're growing old and when
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  Speaker 6: everybody else dies, if you had kids and grandkids, you
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  Speaker 6: have somebody. When your siblings get married and they move
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  Speaker 6: to other states and your parents are no longer with you,
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  Speaker 6: and your friends have their life and they're doing this
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  Speaker 6: and they're doing that, you're by yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Who are you enjoying the money with? Who are you
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  Speaker 2: enjoying anything with?
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  Speaker 6: But if you have a companion, Okay, and all right,
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  Speaker 6: maybe you're not for the marriage part, but you still
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  Speaker 6: need a life partner, somebody to grow old with if
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  Speaker 6: you're going to live old.
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  Speaker 4: It happens men feel that way.
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  Speaker 2: Men should feel that way.
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  Speaker 3: Men feel that way too late.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, but I think women are starting to
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  Speaker 6: feel that way too late also now, and that's a problem.
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  Speaker 3: But she's the problem with a man at fifty sixty
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  Speaker 3: with some money, he can still go in and attract
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  Speaker 3: them a little young and do right older women fifty sixty.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think it's not a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to use her for her bread.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 6: What do you think the young girl is though in
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  Speaker 6: her twenty five, twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, even
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  Speaker 6: early thirties, and her man is in his fifty sixty seventies.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think she's doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I get that, But the thing is that most men generally,
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  Speaker 4: again generally don't care. We know she used, we just
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  Speaker 4: don't give a fun. You think she's pussy, And we
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  Speaker 4: get another one to two or three of them like that.
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  Speaker 4: The woman actually is looking for love, had fifty sixty years.
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  Speaker 4: Its getting used by this nigga fifty sixty. Wait, yo,
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  Speaker 4: I met a yo. This a chicken lived the course the street,
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  Speaker 4: sweet of God, Sweet to God. She owned a brownstone
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: on his block. Right, met a guy who didn't own
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: a brownstone, moves it, moves him into the crib.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: They're together for five years. She comes home one day,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: get married. By the way they got married. She comes
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: home one day and the locks on her doors are changed. Outside,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: she's outside. The nigga signed the deed over to his
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: name and sold the house from under her. We've never
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: seen him since. She was outside for like a week. Legally,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: he transferred the deed somehow from her name to his name,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: sold the house, and disappeared. We never saw him again.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Men.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Have you met men? And how we will use people,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: especially older women.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about older women from I always. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: just think about things differently at times, because I'm thinking
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: about a older woman that's already been married, she's now divorced.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: She's not looking for none of that. She's sixty something
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: and she's just looking for somebody that's young, that's gonna
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: have to that she's gonna have.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: A good time and good luck, he's gonna run through
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: her especially.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: I believe in marriage, and when I think about marriage.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not looking for anybody to support me because I'm
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: doing very well for myself.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: And when she tries to present him with the prenup,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: he's not getting married.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: We see it. On the other side, I believe in prenups, though,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: When she tries to because she's more rich than him.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: And I believe you got it like that, whoever tries
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: to present him with the prenup, he's gonna be offended.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Now what you think I'm trying to use you. It's
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: not happening if you can't.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: But I feel the same way about man in prenups.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: I feel like if a woman is presented with the
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: prenup by a man that has way more than her,
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: it shouldn't be an issue. Like you got you know
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: you love him right, he loves you right, Like y'all
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: gonna be good signed to prenup.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: You should make sure that you have your lawyers read
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: it and there's no like wild, fucked up, tricky shit
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: in it, because there are people that do that too.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: But if it's a fair prenup, why can't you sign it?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Y y'all mentioned something and it felt like the conversation
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: was really based off of different generations. Where do y'all
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: stand on dating outside of your generation at this point?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Because me, I'm forty two, I couldn't imagine dating a
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: younger girl.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine dating someone twenty something early thirties just
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: for me? Would it makes it?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: They're too different now? Like Jesus Christ, I'm bro.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I was exhausted, Bro, I would never was exhausted from
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: hearing her talk the things that she talked about, like
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: the things that she wanted to I was. I was
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: exhausted from her wanting to have sex mad times today.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I was like yo.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I literally told her, like, Yo, you got to go
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: fuck somebody else. You can't just be here all day
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: wanting to fuck all day. It's impossible. Like what do
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: you want from me? I'm forty something years old. It's
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: not gonna happen.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: That was then she wanted, like yo, too much and
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: catch an attitude.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: You know how embarrassing it is for chiculate.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: You don't want to think I.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Feel, But that's catch attitudes.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: If you want to have sex attached to the sex, though,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: that falls back to them wanting attention or wanting what
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: they want at the moment. Yo. Let me tell you,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: sexy fire, it ain't never that fire to have to
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: just be fucking all day all dr again. It gotta
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: be something in your brain that needs some type of stimulation.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: It's not your body. It ain't that you want to
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: be connected in some type of way so much so
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: often and the only way that you think that you
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: can get that level of validation is through the body interaction.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: That is actually facts, that is actually crazy facts.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Boom, it was we broke up behind this me and
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: surely stopped and she actually still be subbing the internet.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Now you want to be into sex?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Now that wasn't trying times a day.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: You you laying there, just work in your little butt
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: all damn ah, here she go. Bro.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy for me? When I think about like.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: You know, bro, exhaust again. You know what's crazy? What?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Well? I don't know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Maybe I'm weird because when I think about marriage and
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: it's like I want a life partner. But when I
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: think about marriage, I'm thinking about it from the perspective
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: of if this man that I'm with that I love
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: so much that I want to make sure is okay,
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: If God forbids something were to happen to him. Like
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: let's say he's in the hospital or something crazy accident.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: He owns a trucking company, he's a truck driver. God forbid,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: something happens he's in the hospital. I know him more
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: intimately than anybody else right now. I am literally his
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: best friend and vice versa. I know what he would
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: want for himself. And now, because we decided, oh we
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: don't want marriage, were just going to do this in
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: the hospital legalities, I can't make the decisions that I
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: know for a fact you want because you're a vegetable
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: and yeah, yeah, I'm just saying, God forbid. But your
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: sister or your brother that lives all the way in
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Trinidad can make those decisions.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: God forbid for real.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And they don't even know you intimately enough in
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: this point of your life to know what you would want.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm thinking about marriage from those perspectives.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Like, if you haven't developed those things, will Yeah, if
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you haven't developed any type of real legal standing to say,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: who's gonna get what this and this and this and that,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: who has control of this and this and this and that, Yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: you'll end up with the person that you least speak
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to even if it's a family member, whatever, having more
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: control over somebody you built ten years with, all because
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you didn't want to sign a paper.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It's just like it goes back.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: To taking the time to get to know who you're with,
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: paying attention to red flags, talking through things. I believe
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: in therapy singularly and together if needed.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Like I just marriage though, Man, this is some there's
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: a lot of cons to marriage for men, lot of
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: pros for men, a lot of cons to that marriage
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: not going.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Well if you pick the wrong one.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: True, what's it the percentage of sixty seven percent that
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: picks the wrong one.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: But when you're walking down the aisle, you don't think
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: you're picking the wrong one, you know what, You don't
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: find out the wrong one is the wrong one too.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: That is the thing just why it is scary it
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: is actually getting married, because how do you really know?
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Like I agree with you days, I agree with you
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: that you should be doing more research and whatever whatever,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: But your heart be controlling a lot of get it
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: and Dick, no, I get it. It'd be controlling a
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: lot of how you feel about a person.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Because what he said, he was going through all this
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: shit with the chick, right, she's talking about how attached she.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Is to him, she hates him, he's trying to get
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: him the fuck the hate out.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: And all this. But he said she was fired. Pussy
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: was pussy was fired. That's what he said. True.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And a lot of women that want to be married.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: It's I hate saying this because I'm in a room
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: full of men, but a lot of women that like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: they want to be married, that's the goal.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: They want to be married.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: They don't necessarily think about I want to be a wife,
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: I want to have a husband, because that's something that
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: you have to think about because if you think about it,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: maybe that's not what you want. So when you're going
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: into something with just thinking about like, oh, I want
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: to be married because my mother said, or society or
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: whatever the reason is, and then you get into a
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: marriage and you don't know how to perform as a
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: wife or you know what to expect from a husband
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: because now you guys are partners legally, emotionally, sexually, like whatever.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. So it is scary for men, I
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: understand that, but it can be scary for women also.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Some people, before you even get to the married state,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: they just want to be in love. They're not trying
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: to be in love with the person. They just want
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: to be able to walk around and say they're in
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: love like it's that thing of being in love with
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: the idea of love, not really in love with a person, dumb.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: And some people are in love with the idea of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: marriage because it's a statement to the rest of the world.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: When you go to work or your homegirls, it's not married.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: You sit at the table speaking from a married woman's perspective,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and you get a different level of respect that comes
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to your relationship. Not not really, your relationship is strong.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: It's just you have to say that you somebody chose
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: you to be a wife. I got picked to be
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a wife. But are you still trying to find a man?
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Are you strong enough either one of y'all trump all
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: three of y'all to resist in love versus not being
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: a good choice for marriage for whatever reason.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: One hundred percent, one hundred nothing wrong with the relationship,
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: but you're not a good match for whatever reason.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: You got issues with the excellent We was talking about
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: that before.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one hundred percent. Because love is not enough.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: Love is not enough to carry any relationship again longevity.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Love is not enough. There's compatibility, there's.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I like you.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Like that More important isn't like in love? Though I
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: feel like like is in love. You can love somebody,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: but I don't think you can be in love with
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: someb that you don't like. Yeah, I agree with her,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: you can love them, but I think in order to
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: be in love, it's almost it's a level right under
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: infatuation because it's healthy, and that means you actually like
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: them enough to be that.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Attached to them.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Most people are not even in love. Most people are
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: in lust.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Most people are in love with the idea of someone
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: and the potential of them and what it comes. Yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: people don't be actually in love with the person. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: again it's discernment and foresight, its experience, its ego and
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: emotional maturity. A lot of people are not in love.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: They're barely even in like. They're intolerance.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: You look back at most of your old relationships and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: you've heard all those many times you're telling somebody I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: love your love, and you think, like you, I did
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: not love not a thing. I ain't even love me
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: at that point, exactly like that shit happens like when
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: you really take some time to think about shit. So
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I don't. I feel people have to do a lot
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: of inner work before they try to really lock in
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: in that step of now, I'm building a light marriage
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: is us. There is no now. We have our own
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: separate things about us that you know make us. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I'm now moving today with us in mind. That takes
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, agreed.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: Selfless that there's a commitment level, ultimate sacrifice on to
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: be a husband or a wife, ultimate sacrifice. The only
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: thing that I think takes more sacrifice is being a parent,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: being a good one.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Definitely, I tell I definitely tell my lady, like I
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: think marriage now with my decisions and how I move,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: and like I think about what I can do to
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: be a great, better partner for you more than before
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I was just fucking with you. And if we match,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: we match. Now there's a level of, like you said,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: discernment or intentionality to how I'm impacting you and our
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: future and shit like that. It's a whole different it's
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: a whole different deal.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: You're talking about a connection with someone who's not your blood.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: You wasn't raised with society and tell you had to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: love like our family members. We're told we have to
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: love down to the point where we won't be liking
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of these motherfuckers, but we'll still walk around
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: and say I love you because you'm a family, no
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: to my a stranger that you've grown a real bond
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: with that you now put above everybody, sometimes having to
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: put them above your kids. Like that's hard. That's a
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: hard thing for people to really grasp and understand how
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: connected you have to be. And then you'll see marriages.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: They'll go twenty thirty years and you'll be like, damn,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: y'all been there, and they'll get divorced after third Like
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Akon married twenty nine years, just getting divorced.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Doyn't ain't kind of have like thirty five wives or
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: some shit?
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Well he losing onega, I would be mad to lose
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: my wife after thirty years.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: There's a young lady on the internet that I saw
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: and she was basically saying that she's waiting to marry rich.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Let me see what she has to say her.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: You figured out why you need a millionaire. It's not
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: really about the dollar amount. I think it's more so
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: the mindset. Why cap yourself at a certain amount, because
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: I know it's talk on how much a guy should make.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: And I don't feel like it's really a dollar mid
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: on that. I feel like it's more so of a mindset,
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: just the mindset of a millionaire. What are your habits?
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: What is your warning routine? What is your goal? What
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: is your plan? Where do you see yourself? You don't
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: see yourself as a millionaire. I feel like that tells
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: a lot because you it's possible, So why not embrace
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: that possibility? You know, No, as a seventh figure earner.
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: As a morning routine, bro, people have morning routines. But
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: he doesn't have to have seven figures yet because I
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: don't have it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: But you want him to want seven figures?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: And I get up at five am, I work out.
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: Do you know that only one in four.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Men make six figures?
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: And I'm okay with being alone.
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: I'm okay with that girl I'm eating. I'm trying to
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: give you something. Only one in four men, I mean
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: six figures, that's.
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: Okay, you're not going for it if I don't come
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: across that. That's because because I can meet a woman
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: with six figures, I enjoy my own company. Only one
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: percent of men make seven plus figures.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't have to right now. What does I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: keep saying right now?
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: Mm hmm.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: He has to eventually.
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I hate to put a dollar amount
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: on it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Though, but you're putting a dollar amount on it. You
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: did it. I didn't say it. You said it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: Like I said, I'm not there yet, so it's okay
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: if you're not either, But I see myself there, so
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: I would want the same mindset. And we're trying, Like
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: you've come across people that have said, like, I don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: see that in my lifetime, like maybe in the next lifetime.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's so limiting.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: She's talking about a mindset. Bits. I don't think people
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: understand how dumb they's saund You think she's sound dumb.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: She sounds dumb.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Why she sounds a little bit delusional?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: That that too, that the other d word.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she was trying to say something good,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: But the way she put.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: It, I saw what she was saying.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: She's talking about a mindset like cause she literally said
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: because she kept saying, I don't I don't want to
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: put a dollar amount on it, So it sounds like
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: she's saying, I want you to at least have a
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: mindset where you feel like anything is possible, and you
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: can you're willing to work towards that, and if you
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: land short of it, that's okay. Ambition, I don't think
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: that if that's what she's saying, I think that that
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: is okay.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I believe that's what she's saying.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: That.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Why do y'all, why did we take so much negative?
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: Bro?
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: She was a day a person that has a routine discipline,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: like they are training for the rest of their life,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: and she's saying she's doing the same thing and that's
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: her goal and meeting somebody too.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: And the other woman was able to present her a
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: situation where a man has routine and still doesn't have that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: That still don't mean you can't be happy. You can
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: have routine. You can still find success in six figures.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: She even gave us six figures, and she gnawed at that,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: like seven hundred thousand, especially especially yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Because seven hundred thousand is still six.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Especially when you haven't obtained it and don't know if
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: you want to obtain it, So you would rather take
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the chance of not meeting your partner because he doesn't
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: have a million dollars and being alone. You got to
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the point where you well it's fine, I gotta have
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it this way, or don't homegirl, be alone, just be alone.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Don't even waste Nigga's time with this bullshit. And she
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: has no problem doing that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: She's lying.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: That's where that's where social media has messed people up
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: because you see so many clips of highlights, and you
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: see so many people that are pretending to have so
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: much more than they have, and then based on your algorithm,
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: you follow one millionaire or one millionaire. Now all you're
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: seeing is billionaires and millionaires. And I do believe in
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: manifestation and all of those things, but at the end
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: of the day, like there's a realistic reality. So when
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: you're caught up in you know, social media and everything
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: that's being presented to you, it's very easy to feel like, oh,
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: that's super easy to attain, and not to say that
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: it's unattainable, but there is very rigorous hard work that
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: goes into that, especially if you're a black man or
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: a black woman. And aside from the rigorous hard work,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: you also have to be a certain type of people.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: There's a part of where you get to seven figures
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: and above where there's probably been one or two or
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: ten or twenty times where you had to fuck some
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: people over and it sounds easier said than done. So
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: are you okay with being with that type of man,
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: because you got to be okay with that also because
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: there's no like and I'm not talking about, oh yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: I have a million dollars. There's no one that has
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: hundreds of millions of dollars or billions of dollars.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: They didn't have to do some functionhit.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: But none only that you didn't You didn't have to
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: You didn't have to lay off in a company that
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: you knew had kids and family to take care of.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: You didn't have to step on somebody toes or fuck
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: somebody's deals so that.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Way you can make the deal. Or you a drug
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: dealing ass nigga, but you're at the top and you
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: killing niggas off like either whatever you're doing, Like I.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Blame all this shit on Jay Z on Kevin Samuels
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: and and Kendrick g and all the rest of them
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: people that get online and start talking this a high
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: value man and this and this and this and that,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Like there was a point where you just did what
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: you wanted to do in life. You worked hard to
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: become successful and you met the person that was just
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: made for you. All this other shit of I need this,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: it's just it's it became like we said this social
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: media eraror where motherfuckers start putting too much sauce on
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: things that just were never a talking point. Like if
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: you go to college, naturally you start to probably date
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the people in college, So naturally you guys maybe start
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: to have the same ambitions. Naturally, you guys work towards
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the same goals, naturally achieved the same things. There was
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Claire Huxtable didn't have to say if I don't go
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: meet a nigga like Cliff, I ain't marrying nobody. Just
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: went the work fout my passion and just did what
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I need to do.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: This is not about Kendred g or Kevin Samuel. This
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: is about the prostitutes are dressing like regular women, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the regular women think the prostitutes are just regular women.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Know these bitches are selling pussy. These bitches that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: And they've had their airplane in their bio since before Instagram.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Y'all remember that having an airplane in the bio.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I do remember on Twitter they used to have the
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: airplane in the bio. That's to let you let you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I'll fly out. I'm good for traveling. I'm good for travel.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: The prostitute the women, regular women are following the prostitute
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: trends and they're showing them on vacation and they're acting
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: like this just lavish lifestyle.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You don't have attainable but hold on, hold on.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: But the other side of it, I hate to be
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: on the other side of it. But there's a side
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: that's also promoting trick behavior because now men have become
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: well in order for me to obtain a relationship, it
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: got to be a trophy type of chick. It got
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: to be a chick that got this level followers, or
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: she gotta be willing to go at and pop it open.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Like it's creating a trick.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Type social media because why are me and you? Why
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: is me and Joe Budden trying to get the same pitch?
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Not him? But you know what I'm saying, like, why
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: is a nigga that's rich in my bitch?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: DM?
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Well, that's where you come from, where the access, the
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: access has become what it is. So there was in
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a time where like my mom couldn't d M Johnny
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Gill exactly.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: That's literally trying to take your bitch out the hood
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: like before she was stuck with us.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: No figure it out. See there's the problem though. There's
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: a problem though, if you look at a lot of
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: them niggas, a lot of these basketball players and all this,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: look at their actual girlfriend or their actual white men,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: most of them, most of them who are really locked in.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Really they've been with them for a while, they're not
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: the most made up or they starting to get maded
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: regulation and you know what when they do hit you, you.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Know what they're hitting you for.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: So even when you get hyped about I got this
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: nigga my DM, Yeah he's in your DM to fuck you.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: He's gonna fuck you, and you're gonna let him fuck
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: and you're never gonna get anything else after that. Then
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: your name is gonna pick up with the other niggas
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: in the league. Then they're gonna pass you around. You
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: You better be lucky that maybe you get pregnant, because
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: then maybe you can get you a little child support
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: check or uthing like. That's literally the thinking at this point.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Niggas win it, but they're with it, and that's sad.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Let's just be clear that I think there.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: Are still women that are delusional, not delusional that are naive.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: I would say that that are naive enough to think
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: that no, I'm gonna meet I can meet somebody at
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: a certain level and he will, you know, love me
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: and marry me and terse me and I will and
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: again anything is possible. But there's you know.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: But they remember what I was telling you all about
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: the women that Imani is talking about, he dated and
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: he never he gave them the truth and they never
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: fought back. They're willing to lower the standards. No disrespect
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: to you at all. They lower them their standards to
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: deal with the possibility of getting this level.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: That's not true. It's not true.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Our pass it to you.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: You can look at it. I love what happens. To
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: want to see it, just go ahead to read the
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: about can I see?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: There's women who are really just cool with stuff.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: They just want to experience things they've never experienced before,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: and you're the person that I can do it with.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Cool, that's true.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I have no problem with that being the case. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I've been that person for women before and vice versa.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: It's not even a matter of she has another expectation
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: for what we're going to be. It's pretty clear what
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: it's going to be. That's it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I thought it's gonna be something wild, but that's right now.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: How we could talk about like.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I think that's like for us.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: But I think, I think and.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I think I think most people aren't really aren't really
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: getting what they want because they don't even know what
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: they want and they're letting social media and some of
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: these fake guruls tell you this is what you want.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: So that girl looked like she just repeated some shit
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: she heard somebody else say online, and that's now her expectation.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: When you get to the point where you're willing to
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: risk happiness with someone else just because they don't have
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: an extra hundred grand, something's wrong with you.
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: And I also think like her idea of what a
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: millionaire is like so grandiose, like they're just regular people
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: and she's thinking like, oh, they got it all figured out,
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: they got their morning routine and oh my god, they
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: like I can learn from them and this it's like, Yo,
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of millionaires with some bad habits and
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: just don't have it all figured out and are miserable.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Adrian and a millionaire, right
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: now tell you that a millionai't enough.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: It's not it's a million, it's not a millionaire. Back
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: to six figures.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: So when I hear women and men speak like this
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to me, it just sounds like they're regurgitating some ship
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: that they heard somebody else.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: And also I didn't, I'm not. I'm not going to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: say it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: You're not you sure. It's so shameless.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: Because there's also the aspect of you gotta be honest,
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: pressure works everything.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: There's just looks are a thing. Like looks are a.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Thing, not to women that are dedicated to being rich.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: But that man that has all that money, the old
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: look like five yoda, But that's not There's so many
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: people that have millions of dollars now, and they aren't
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: all old and wrinkly. Some of them are much younger
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: and very good looking, or even if they're older, an
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: older one that does have good habits, so he's fit
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: and he looked good for his age, and he got the.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Pick of the fucking litter. Sweetheart, looks her also a thing?
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna just say that, like looks her looks
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: her also a thing?
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even to say that. I'm glad you
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: said it.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: I figured that the men wouldn't feel comfortable saying it,
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: so I should just id.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: The just think.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that she's ugly, because she wasn't ugly, but.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: It wasn't the nothing about nothing of her game that
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: she should be pulling a millionaire.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: Like, if she ends up with a millionaire, it would
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: be because you guys grew and built and diet that together.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: You're not out in the world. And the millionaire was like, yep, if.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I'm a nigga reaching for a millionaire. If I'm a
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: nigga reaching for a million I see her, I'm gonna
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: stay far away from them. I'm good with.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: That's definitely one thing Kevin Simmuls had right. He was like,
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: you know, you gotta understand that these millionaire men are
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: not looking at you, and you know they have their
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: standards on what they want. He's like, anyway, average person,
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: and I hate to use the word average. Anybody could
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: talk about what they want, but that doesn't mean that
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be reciprocated and you're gonna.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: End up being bigger. Point is a nigga with money
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: don't care if you got money.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Exactly most niggas, we don't.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Care about what you got fat, So you've come into
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: the table tomorrow, I'm gonna have a million two and.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I'm disciplined and I do that nigga, don't give a fuck.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I might not want you to be disciplined. I might
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: want you to be a bum and just say that
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: financial abuse comes into play, Like I don't know. I
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: just think people just be saying.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: My thing is like why she more concerned about him
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: having a million and not her having a million?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Well, she says she can see it for herself and
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: she's working towards it.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: But that's the trick you heard. What did you listen
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: to what she said? She said, Yo, I have my
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: morning routine. I wake up at five am and I
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: work out.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: But that's all she said.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Though that's what I'm saying.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, she don't look like she eat well.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't even believe that you even have
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: the what you're asking for for the other person. So
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: it's like it's hard to say, Yo, I'm requiring this,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: but I'm not even showing it any way that I'm
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: presenting providing that out on track for that agreed.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: Also, I don't want to tear her down too much
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: because I think she was trying to say she just
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: wants somebody ambitious, and she's ambitious her.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I agree with that. That's what I feel like, you
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: know what.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, And there's nothing wrong with that. If that
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: was the point, Yes.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's what she wants. Leave the dollar
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: amount out.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Saying I don't want to put I just.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Know what we're going to be if we're both this discipline,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: if we're both this ambitious, and that's the type of
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: man I want.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: She led with a millionaire, She let she had with
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: a millionaire. The lady asked her six figures, and she
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: scoffed that six figure. She did go off for six figures.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: When we were talking about the type of person people want,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: remy Ma had something to say, I hate you.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know about it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I know exactly what whother duck.
• 43:23
  Speaker 11: Like the perfect girl like seriously, like seriously, let me
• 43:26
  Speaker 11: bring it up first of them. I watched football, watch basketball,
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: I watch boxing. I watch baseball like not and not
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: just watch it like I know. I know the coach,
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: I know the team, I know who's getting treated I
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: know one is the draft and like, I know what's
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: going on here. Oh you sell drugs gorret. I got you.
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: I know how much you wagh. I might even have
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: a me connect for you, like I got you. Oh
• 43:50
  Speaker 11: you're into guns.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: What did you know? I love to that like anything
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: that anything.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: That guy's arelike it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I like it, love it too, so it works perfectly.
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: And then I not a cook, like not just cook,
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: like I cook like wow, like to the point that
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: when I travel, like I'm going to LA with my
• 44:13
  Speaker 10: friends and I'm coming there, like, bitch, bring your season
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: and kid, you cook him when you get hit.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I got a kid a season.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: And not a cut.
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: I not a bake because you know how to bake,
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: not a bag which you want to from scatch. You
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: want an apple pie, you want a crumble leg you
• 44:28
  Speaker 11: a gun in.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: An apple pie?
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: You got every watching the game and I can get you.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: The floor.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Gun in the apple pie. And she didn't even realize
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: ers like you're good, you're right, you know. I can't
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: believe that. Just I can't believe why? Why?
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: What's wrong? You don't want to check that guy that
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: knows the connected, the knows.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: The younger girl, the younger. The person before that seemed
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: to be a little young girl. Mm hmm. So a
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: little bit of what she was saying, I'm kind of
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I can understand, not really experienced, still wet behind the ears.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: It hurts when you hear an elder season veterans, a
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: season vet someone sound like a little bird, someone who's
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: been places. Now I'm not talking about somebody like you've
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: been places, You've seen success, You've been around successful ship,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: and that's what you think of men, you think that's
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: what key. She was explaining that she said she's the
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: perfect girl because of.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Her project, like I mean her last niggah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Yo, I don't want to I don't want to sell drugs,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Like if you sell drugs, if you're into gun, I
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: don't even like baseball, yo. It's the thing she listed.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: It was sports, guns and drugs, drugs.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Selling drugs and a cake.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: So it's a well, she's a perfect girl for a
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: certain type of nigga and that's well, and that's the
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: type of say that. And I'm saying nigga not man
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: for a reason, like she's that's what she wants, that's
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: she's perfect for that type.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Matter what she said that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: She fits the tight what not? Like, why do we
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: even speaking like that? You know how to cook? I
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: could cook, I could bird.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Don't tell me you yeah, don't tell me you can
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: get me thousands off the pounds. You can't do that,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: as my shorty, I'm not not We're not doing that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: That's a fact. I'm not rolling the prices up. Come on,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: it's super.
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: I think she's trying to say she's well rounded.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of specific type of man. There was
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: nothing well rounded about that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: Even be honest, that was a squaz. Even beyond a
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: specific type of man, A lot of women feel like
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: they could just show up with some good looks and
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: as and that's what they bring him to the table.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: She's like, actually, I can sit and I could talk
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: shop with you. I could talk however you talk with
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: your homies. I could talk with you too. We could
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: be best friends and I could throw down in the kitchen.
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: I could cook you. That's a lot more than a
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: lot of that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: If she's being funny, then the table. If she's being funny,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: then cool. If she being literal, then all the things
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: that she named is not the ship that me and
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: my friends and a successful group of people that I
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: know want their woman to provide.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: So she was saying, like, hey, I am a well
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: rounded woman that can bring so much more to the
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: table than a basic woman can bring.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: But she used poor examples of what those things are.
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: Well to tell point, she like her niggas so that
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: she's going to keep a basic.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's why I'm like, I think she's yeah,
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: she is perfect for the type of man that she
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: clearly likes.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I do think a part of this was her being
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: a little funny. Though it may be a little funny
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: about it being performative. It might have been a little performative.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Is it wrong to think she actually might have a
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: point that these things do matter because although we're talking
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: about which although we can localize those things, and she's
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: but she's like, I can help you in almost every
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: single way.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I'm that like me and you.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: That was right, Like nigga, I'm not gonna be just
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: one of these trophy ass bitches like I get down
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: in almost every way that you get down, I'm there
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Is there a.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Problem with a woman.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: From that perspective when you dig deep into the point
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: of what she was trying to say, that absolutely, Yeah,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: that's I love that, as you should be.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: However, who's doing that?
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: And people gotta people have to say what they mean
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: and mean what they say and learn vocabulary so they
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: can articulate. Because anyone that heard what you said, she said,
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: the majority of people are not digging.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Into She was being iNeST like like a man, he said,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out which one of you.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I like him, but that's not his name. But I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: like to.
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: Know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: All right, Yes, you were saying something I forgot, man,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: I forgot all right, do y'all like y'all ladies in
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: this watching the football game with y'all?
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, I remember, like with the guys. I remember
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: with the guys. What's up?
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what I was going to say before I was
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: going to say. I think the things that she named
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: is things that I feel like men would feel like
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: they got to keep their girls out of to your
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: points out. So she's saying, like, yo, those things like
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: you can bring me in. I'm not one of those
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: people that you have to, like, you know, keep me
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: on the side, for which I understand.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: I don't want know. Cody's on the guns and the
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: drug part, saying you're gonna still keep saying it's cool.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: If that switch into espe. She's saying like she's basically like, yo,
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: I could participate in barber shop talk like, you don't
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: have to go outside the relationship to get those things satisfied.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: What do I have my friends don't.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want you in the mix of that.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I don't watch with your boys.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: All right, hang out with your like, I don't want
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: to be in the mix of that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: If you have that option to have somebody at home
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: that can supply some of those things, like I was
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: that a bad thing?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I don't
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: want to be If my.
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: Ladies into sports, that's a plus. It's not a negative
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: at all. That doesn't mean I don't want to hang
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: with my friends anymore. It just means, like you now,
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: we don't got to fight. We used to go to
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: the gym. The minute you got to chick that wanted
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: to go to the gym, you was going to the
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: gym with her. Me and you used to I used
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: to spy. I ain't got nobody to spot me because
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: now you're with her. Schedules schedules.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Y, I'm good. What happens I don't want. I don't
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to be everything in everything to
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: my life, Like some things is just for me, Like
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: sometimes I want to watch the game alone, even if
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: you like the game, like like I want that. Like
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: even you know a single nigga, he's singing, he likes
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: being single, he's single. No, I do like I do
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: like companionship though, so I try to find it in
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: different ways without having to make the commitment. But if
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I say to a woman, hey, I like boxing, I'm
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: about to go outside to go get some downtime with
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: my homies to go watch boxing, and her replies, well,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: I like boxing too. We can just do this together,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say to her, respectfully, go find some
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: other people to go watch this game with, because this
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: is my downte me telling me you and I need that.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: I don't care what no person says. You need down
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: torship partner. Of course we can share, like if we
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: both work out cool, there might be days we go
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: to the gym together. But let's not make this the norm.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Like I don't want every for you.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Some people like me, I don't like doing things without
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: my girl, Okay, I don't like doing that, Like I
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: feel awkward when I'm places without her. First of all,
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: it's the only person I talk to every day. I
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: literally don't talk to nobody else.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe this nigga, but I don't talk to nobody else
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: every single day.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Almost everything that I do that enjoys pleasure, whether it's
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: going out to eat, going to shows, going to the beach,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: going to a movie, I.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Do it this same fucking person. He wants me to
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: go to the movies with him, but it's not happening.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Spider Man, you want to do your part.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: That sounds like the type of stuff that she want
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: But you become like if you're in a relationship with
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: somebody and you'all friends, gotta be your girl's friends in
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: a way, in a way, in a way, like you
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: can't have friends that she don't like.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not gonna. It's not gonna. You're not the
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: everyday friends that's.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Get along with your friends. Of course, have your own
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: homie time and ship like that. But ship her if
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I like football and she can sit and watch the
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: game with me, or she knows Yo, the game coming on, Yo,
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: you better get this or whatever, because the game coming
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: on and she hyped.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: That's dope.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: It's a plus.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: For example, like the remote control is a big thing,
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: like me and my lady and I don't require for
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: my lady dad to be all of those things. To
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: your point, you man, I don't need that. You know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: it's not you know, it's not a non negotiable right,
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: But it would make my life easier if at the
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: end of the night, when I'm ready to put sports
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: in on, she's with it. Because now at the end
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: of the night, we both have to be considerate. She
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: wants to watch uh Love and Hip Hop Atlanta and
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: I want to watch Sports Center. We don't end up
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: watching either one because we got to be considerate of
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: each other and we end up watch Would it be
• 53:18
  Speaker 7: nice to have somebody that would watch Sports Center?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: But that's the house.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: You have more than one TV exactly.
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: Here.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Let me enjoy this time to myself.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: If we can't enjoy together, and sometimes even some things
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: that we could enjoy together, I still want to enjoy
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: by myself, down time or being able to just be
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: on my own.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: That's different, though, I have to consider it. That's a
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: completely different conversation. What you're saying has nothing to do
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: with her likes. And what you're saying is I need
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: you to go over there and be comfortable.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Being for what you're there, and I'm over here.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: So I can just not hear you ask me stupid
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: ask questions and not have my own fucking moment in
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: this fucking house. I definitely I need my old man cave.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Leave me alone.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes you can be down here if the movie's
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: on down here, whatever, but.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Most times go upstairs and watch love and hip hop, Netflix,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: whatever the fuck you be watching with your girls and
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: your daughters. Let me be down here watching football and.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Just bring the wings wings and know that I like
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: this drink and it's like over here, you bring it
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: down you wan another one?
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm going upstairs. I'm with your bye.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: We were last convoy today. You guys have been amazing.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: It's getting late. I'm hungry and I didn't have relations
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: earlier because I had a guest that was such a
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: crazy ass that told you all about you didn't hear crazy,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: but I oh, I oh, dick anyway, Sorry, so shameless.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: I apologize. I'm sorry, my bad. I definitely she came
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: with a whole thing, all right, my bad? What's the
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: this girl's name influencer, Yes, jewels.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Oh that's the white girl Thatt be working.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: She had a fatty though. I don't know she'd be torking.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think i've ever seen a work Did she.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: She does something?
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Did she start out that way and then she started
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: as a work girl making sure.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: She started out as an influencer and influencer and now
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: brand man like that.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I got her confused. There's a white girl that be talking.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I thought it was yes, a white work.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fatty, but this one is was connected to Lebron James.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: She was just doing a lot of influence and yeah,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: and they hate her because apparently she be appropriating black culture.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: You know, women don't like white men with ass. Black
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: women don't like white women ask.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: So don't do that because it's it's not that, yeah, don't.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I don't like white women would ask they try to
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: act black. That's what they say that she's doing. She
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: had braids.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Why the funk you got braids?
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing was when she she posted, uh, the shirt,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: the shirt, what shirt ship?
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: What was on the shoes?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: What we're doing? Dan word? No wor what she said
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: she posts? Is it okay? If I wear this shirt
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: or some ship and then had dan word on it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Why let me make sure what was the shirt. I'm
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: gonna find the shirt. Yes, strong with gracious. I don't
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: know what she did now because I feel like she's
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: always in the news. But what happened now, This is.
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: Like black men gotta leave white women alone because she
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: felt like maybe she could wear that shirt because she'd
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: be having sex with black men.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: That is why. That's actually a reason why Daniel Caesar
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: got canceled. The singer. Yeah, why he was defending her,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: He defended her right and black women instantly told him
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: because what are you doing?
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like, why would you think that's okay? And I'm
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: a firm believer in people are very aware that it's
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: not okay. She knew that she couldn't wear that shirt.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: She knew it wasn't okay. So what's your issue? Your
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: issue is you got an issue with black women on
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: the low or maybe not on the loan. And I
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: think that so black.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Top read niggas lie a lot.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: You can't wear a shirt that said men lie a lot.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Why are you even referencing niggas?
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: Niggas Niggas are black men Niggas are everybody. But I'm
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: just saying, like nigga is from nigger, which is black people,
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: black men.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Why are you even referencing black men like that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I blame this on black men. I do too about
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: to say the same thing. It's your fault we make
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: We make women feel comfortable based upon our attraction to them,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: based upon them fetishizing us. Because I say this all
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: the time. My biggest issue with the idea of dating
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: not just white women, neither Dominican women, to a lot
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: of a lot of women of a certain race love
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: to fetishize Black men but have no real respect for us,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: have no real respect for the culture, love to appropriate
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: it when they want and turn that shit off immediately
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: at their earliest convenience or inconvenient or inconvenience. Right, So
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: when I see things like this, and I have seen
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of the men that chase after her typically
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: are men of color because of her aesthetic, and typically
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: white men or men of her culture, whether it be hispanic,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: whatever her body shape and what she does, they're not
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: into Nope, So she's never going to be appealing to them.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: So the only type of man that she's going to
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: really be able to gravitate to are men of color,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: and we don't be spotting that shit. We don't check that.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I don't have obvious to everybody else. I don't know how,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: TAJ let me disappoint you.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, Before I started having these conversations, I was attracted
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: to a young I want to say, Dominican, Colombian, something
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: like that, and she literally would call us monkeys and
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: I would tell her like, Yo, you can't talk like that.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: You can't say it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Because I wanted to beat so bad she I would
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: always like, we would always go back and.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Forth over it, but I never cut her off.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: I never cut her off because I wanted to beat
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: so bad.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: So you're right, it is black his fault a lot.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a bitch call your people monkey because
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: you wanted to fuck her.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: I think niggas have done way work.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, y'are always doing way worse. Fanastic question, But I
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: don't know why.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep real with you. Honestly, I didn't look
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: at her as white. I didn't understand the racial ship
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: coming from a Spanish person she's I didn't understand it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't look at it. It's almost like if you were.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: It's almost like I looked at it as if it
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: was a woman, because you were.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Looking at the skin. So I have a lot of
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Haitian friends, right, I grew up in the Bronx. I
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: have some Haitian friends over there, right, and my Haitians
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: friends had to really put me on.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: To how.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: How the racism was passed down to them about Black Americans,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: but also Dominicans towards them even though they're right here.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Haitian r is this. It's the same shit, right, go
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: to the Dominican and say you black me, no black or cool.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: I get it, But you want to go ahead and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: be able to say all the black shit, black slag.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: You want to be able to fucking the black niggas want,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: You'll have the black baby, You'll do all that other
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: shit when it comes down to you really being part
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: of the coaching, if you want to be the furthest
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: thing from it. It's like when I spoke to had
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: an African friend who said when his family came over
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: here and they got to immigration, they told them at
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: the office, stay away from black people. If you want
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: to survive facts, if you want to survive here, you
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: stay away.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: From black people. That's what they're told coach at a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: certain point.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: And propaganda television over there about us just shooting and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: killing each other.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: That's all they know. So so when I see something
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: like this, I'm not even sure why. Yes, Jews is
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: brought up, but anything anytime I'm thinking of her.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Different, this has nothing to do with Okay, so this
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: is just the pieces getting dragged together.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Whenever I see stuff like this is just kind of
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: like I blame I blame us. I blame us.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: I blame us definitely. I blame us definitely for not
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: but I was uneducated. I didn't I didn't even know
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: how to have that conversation. I literally didn't know. I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: was just fighting. I was just chasing my dick. I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: had no idea like oh shit, this is real, like
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: some deep set hate ignorance, like I knew it. But
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: I was like, man is like whatever, whatever, I'm gonna
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: beat And that was it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry face, I'm sorry.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: I'm not even mad at you at her. It's just
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: which is they're cringe like they're gross, like they're just.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: But she knew she was offending me. She knew because
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: she was like monkeys the voice Dominican Dominican, light skinned
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Dominicans nuts, Light skinned Dominicans are racist and stereotyping, are
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: skinned Dominicans. They do that even within the own culture,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: So imagine what they think of people out like. And
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I hate to keep laying on Dominicans because I just
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: I've had bad experiences with Dominican women, but I've had
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: good ones as well, So I don't want to speak
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: like it's a whole thing. But I'm using that as
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: an example. So if we have that disparity, disparity with
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: people that we actually coase proximity with within the hood,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: just certain areas, could you imagine what white people think
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: of us and how they maneuver in the quietness of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: their own homes and how they talk to each other
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: or when they get around the black dude who allows
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: them to say the N words. I had a homegirl
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: who had to cut off and I was beating too,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: but I had to cut off.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Because she she literally slipped one day and.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Said, I said, YO, excuse me, and she said, well,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't think it would offend you. All my other friends,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: all my black friends, let me say it.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: She was right, and I said, okay, but cool do
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: me a favorite.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: You go with them black friends me and you can't
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: have this. This is a rat like it has to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: get to that point called stern. Certain barriers you can't cross.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: You should have never felt so comfortable to begin with, Like,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: never should have felt that comfortable to begin with.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: That shit is crazy.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Why do you think that black women seem to have
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: more of a because we're saying that black men are
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: the problem with this conversation, right, Why is it that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: black women seem to have more of an understanding or
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: an alignment with the cultural movement than because where we
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: stand with this conversation.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: Because we y'all so, even though they'll treat you like
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: shit or whatever when things get go sour, for the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: most part, you're receiving something positive from it while it's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: happening at least. But yeah, the pussy, the whatever, the repation,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: whatever it is. But as a black woman, first of all, it's.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: The man. The men that are supposed to be for
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: us are not for us or with us. They're with
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: somebody else. And a lot of the black men that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: do engage with women that are others. Because it's not
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: just white women, it's white women, Hispanic women, Asian women,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: the others.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: They also can't be with the others without putting us down,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: Like why the fuck am I a part of your
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: Like why am I being discussed in your relationship with
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: this other?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I see it all the time, like just like your
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: other Why do you I like others because they're so
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: much better than black women for xyz? Why? Like why?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Like why does that have to be a conversation?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: And then a lot of these others, white, Hispanic, black
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: that date Black men, they don't fuck with us, They
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: don't like Black women, they don't fuck with us.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: They don't like us. They think they're better than us.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: And if they don't think they're better than us, because
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: they even the ones that think they're better than us,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: they know they're not, but that's what they try to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: convince themselves. It's like a direct competition because and I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: don't understand, Like, as a man, right, you're a black
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: man with a black mother, with black sisters.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Whatever. Let's say you had kids before this, you had a.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: Black daughter, and you dating this white women or this
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: Asian woman or the Hispanic woman, and you meet her
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: friends and all her friends, all her other friends are
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: also white, All her other friends are. She's Hispanic, all
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: her other friends are Hispanic. She's Asian, all her friends
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: are Asian. But she got a black man. That's a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: red flag. And I hate that you guys don't pay
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: attention to stuff like that, because if you really fucked
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: with the culture, and you really fucked with us, you
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: would have a diverse circle, diverse circle. There would be
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: black friends and black women. You're a woman, Why are
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: all your female friends not black?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: That's weird.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: You don't fuck with us, So that means you don't
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: fuck with my mother for real. That means you don't
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: fuck with my sister for real. You don't fuck with
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: my daughter for real, because you don't really fuck with us.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: You fuck with me, And I don't give a fuck
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: that you fuck with me, because why don't you fuck
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: with us? That's a problem because as soon as I'm
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: no longer appealing to whatever it is that appeal to you,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: while you're with me, you.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Don't fuck with me either. And when you cry them
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: fucking crocodile tears that they always cry. Now my life
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: is thrown away, I'm in jail, I'm murdered, my fucking
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: career is blown whatever the fuck that's like back to
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: discernment and foresight, like and just and history and paying
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: attention and just shit is weird. The nigga's are weird.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: The bitches are super weird, but the niggas are weird too,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: because it's like.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm to the point now twenty twenty six. And
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: this might be a hard, hardest soft comment, but even
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: my porn stars that I like, I like to go
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: to their page and see how many niggas they follow.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: Yo.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: That's the thing. If they have no black that means
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: that they're on a certain side of.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: All of this, like it's it's set like every like
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: you can really not know that is is insane to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: use that example. You can tell that, you can tell.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Within certain worlds.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: In that world, you can tell they only go on
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: the white shows, they only deal with certain way and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: even if they have the scenes, they don't follow them.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah they know, they don't include them as friends and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: shit like that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's to huse it to use for this use force.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: So oh wait, so you mean like porn stars are
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: having sex with black men, but when you go on
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: their pages, it's only wait.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: There and they wouldn't walk past them. In the street
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: and give them a high five. Oh wow, I don't
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: want to build relationship with you. I don't talk to you, don't.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: I don't even know your name. I got a chance
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: like that if you, I promise you. If you take
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: at least three to four of the most popular white
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: porn stars who actually still interact with men black men
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: on set, go through their follow lists, and I can
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: almost bet you they probably don't even follow three black men.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't watch porn and it actually and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: that says a lot about them as a person, but
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: it also says a lot about their community, because once
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: they start doing that, they're looked at a certain way
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: We are in the community, well, they're they're a part
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: of a community that is deemed to be for the
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: rest of the world low life activity. You said, we
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: are you and no, no, no, no, I'm saying I'm speaking.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: I'm speaking of judges.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Porn stars is sick.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: That does That sounds about right, though, That sounds like
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: it makes sense. That would surprise me, That would have
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: surprised me at all.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: That had been fire. I might all right, you think so,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: so to be in an industry where it's already looked
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: upon in a certain way to then look upon other
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: people in that industry a certain way.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. How that's crazy? What that's that's that's wild crazy?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: So it is do y'all even want to hear that?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What was the point of bringing good?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: It was a tweet. It was a tweet that she came. Yeah,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: because we just went.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: It's positive, than fuck it. We want to keep it.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: And all I said was people will spend ten thousand
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: on bottles and a table at the club that have
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: never been to Europe.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Make it make sense.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know why I never been to Africa. We
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: don't give a fuck about Europe. I'm just now I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: was being extra. I was no, No, I get what
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: she's saying, but also why not Africa? But I get
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: what she's saying though she's a white woman. She's a
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: white woman, so of course she's going to say Europe.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Who gives what if I have no aspirations to go
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: see Europe?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Well, Europe is just that that.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: Every European a question to come to America. It could
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: have been anything.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: I think she just means that you aren't experiencing other
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: things in life, but you will wait, like you could
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: take that money and do so much something, so much.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Better with it. Like travel doesn't have to be Europe,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: but travel expands your palate, your knowledge, your experience, your
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: understanding of other cultures. Why would you not want to
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: be subjective to me?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: That shit might not be better to me, that shit
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: might not matter to my life experiencing any of that.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who never want to
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: experience that shit. Not saying that you should be so.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: But if I'm content, if I'm happy, you know, I'm
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: in America, I've worked my ass. I want to enjoy
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: America and the things that I want to enjoy here.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I might not need to go to Europe and understand
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: Greek culture, understand Russians, fucking niggas.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: Get what you're saying. It is kind of bugged out.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: Ten thousand dollars on a given night for bottle service
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: is insane. It means your net worth should be super high.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: And if your net worth is that high and you're
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 7: not traveling, it doesn't have to be Europe. You're just
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: not traveling. That seems a little weird.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: That is weird to your point.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 7: You many maybe traveling is one of the things that
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: you'd like to do about. I would think most people
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: enjoy traveling, even if it's just for leisure, even if
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: you're not into history and all that stuff.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: Just do you mind if I play our homeboy Trauma
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: from Atlanta.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: No, that's tole me.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: Let me see in my voice, my sound up.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 12: The biggest destructions of black wealth has been bottle service.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 12: If you think about how much wealth we've wasted on
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 12: bottle service, it would disgust you.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: You're talking about hundreds of millions of.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 12: Dollars that is not going to your community, not going
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 12: to whatever, to your business, that people are just wasted.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: And none of that as what you said.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 11: We know it's a five hundred percent markup and we
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 11: still do it.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: M Do you agree with that? No, you don't. Look
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: at everybody in that clip solutions, the raid that's look
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: at what all of them are wearing. Look at what
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: we all purchased, the cars, and all of this shit
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: is marked up.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: All this shit is a waste.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: We don't support certain things that we say we should
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: support every day, like don't don't just lock in on
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: one thing because it's a good talking point to make,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: because it doesn't align with you to your day to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: day shit. So no, I don't buy bottles. I don't
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: even throw money at the stripples, and I don't do
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: none of that shit. But if that's how you find
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: your enjoyment and that's what you want to spend your
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: money on, spend it. Because if I'm going to make
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: one change, I need to make the change all of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: course the board. So don't buy no bull taker, don't
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: buy none of that motherfucking Louis and all that other
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: shit that you niggas waste all this bullshit money on
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: on bullshit fabric you can't even wear twice because the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: miniature seene with it twice on Niggas think you're a bum, Like,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: stop stop landing so hard on one point just to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: make a good point for the moment, because it does
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: not align with your day to day I don't say
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: with the yes jewel shit cool, you'll make that statement,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: but I can almost guarantee you'll be the chick at
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: that table drinking from that nigga's bottles if he got it.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: So don't be the person complaining about it. But you
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: want to take the fruit to the label and enjoying it,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: you'll take the picture in front of the bottle.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I agree that.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Nobody's walking out the club like, nah, yeah, you're buying
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: bottles somebody.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like what the fuck are we talking about.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: Whatever you spend your discretionary income on is nobody's business
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: but your own. The problem is a lot of that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: income is not discretionary. That's your rent money, and that's
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 7: shit like that. So that's a problem. But it doesn't
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: matter whether it's gambling or bottle service or to your point, designer,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: you're still blowing it. I wouldn't point to either one
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: of those things to be like, this is a big again.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: I disagree with all of y'all since to beget your hoole,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: and I love you hoole.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: You know that.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: I know you'd be paying attention to all of this shit.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: We started buying ship that was out of our means
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: to keep up with the Joneses a long time ago,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: thirty years ago, I would.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Say before that, before.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: That way, it goes way way way back to after slavery.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: Jim Crow and black people wanting to dress and have
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: and we're expensive things was proving. It goes all the
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: way back to that, like proving like I.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: Had malchaol X's movie. Yes, Malcolm X first came to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Harlem when he first came out and he dressed that
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: went and capped the whole stupid ass suit in order
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: to zoop suit all to just live and be a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: part of the ship.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Ship that he couldn't afford. Shit, he shouldn't have been doing.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's all.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: Now it's magnified because price is higher and access is higher.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: But it's all just the evolution of people.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Trying to keep up. And so you think that's healthy
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: to do. I don't think anything is healthy to do.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: But I'm not going to judge one aspect and not
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: look at all of it as a totality. That's what
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: I agree with. I do agree not so do I
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: think the strip clubs that we attend.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: I don't understand why we do that.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, but.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: The strip clubs that we attend typically in the South,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: and that's Atlanta based. Podcast Typically in that club, who's
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: the dancers, what's their culture? Black women? Right?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: Well, if you go to the black club, they got
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: white ones, super cool.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: But gonna we're gonna deal within us going to black club.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: We're taking our money and we're circulating our money with
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: a black woman, black household, black establishment. Still buying into
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: black now might not be what you want to align with.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: But guess what, that one hundred and fifty dollars, that
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: ten grip whatever fog I threw it went into some
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: black pockets that needed that money. And I go to
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: the motherfucker's store and I buy that twelve hundred dollars
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Gucci shirt that here.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: They don't go. No, that shit don't do nothing for
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: nobody in my culture, nobody.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 11: Like.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I understand how morally there's some
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: things that we don't have to align with. But a
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: nigga going and buying about if he can spend ten
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: thousand and he feels comfortable spending ten thousand, and he
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: did it at a black club, I'm never gonna knock that.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: That's one.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: And secondly, i'd rather him motherfucking go do that. Then,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: like you said, damn, the ship cracks it. Whatever the fuck, You're.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: Not gonna come on here and tell me that throwing
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: fifteen bands at booby Trap is supporting black business.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: It is, that's what you're doing.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Booby Trapped black owned.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure magic guess what. Let's just say it
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: is not supporting a black business. But if I'm throwing
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: it on a black woman, that's the trickle down. He
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: got a point. Yeah, and that woman don't have no
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: other jobs, and she got kids at home.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: She got you don't have to.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: She's going fifteen thousand and they be killing they be
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: killing the strip. But guess what they're doing. You're not
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: going to Gucci, but.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: She and she is cool.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: So the problem needs to be with your bread that
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: you could have fucking bought some property with or invested
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: than some ship. The one thing I grew up niggas
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: telling me, watch no body pockets you spend your money
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: how you want to spend your money. If we're going
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: to put the moral police on how we spend our money,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: we got to stop doing a lot of ship everything
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: and buying bottles is at the very bottom. Well, it's somewhere,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: but it ain't at the top of the list for
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: niggas to be having conversations. I agree, there's things that
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: fall fall like that.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: To his point, when you're spending the money, it could
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 7: be a black establishment, could be a black hostess. That's
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 7: getting the tip, could be a black promoter, could be
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: a black DJ. That's all part of the economic structure
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: of the bottle service being a big factor and why
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 7: that club is successful.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: So I get it.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Makes sense, makes sense, y'all. We have reached the mark.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Y'all have smoked this episode a thousand times over. This
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: is great, man, I really, first of all, I appreciate
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: you for stopping buying my brother for real, and he
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: came supported us with hardest saft, came back for so shameless,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: like yo, hands and head.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: Off, and we have to get me and SiO to
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: sit down with you guys, and yeah, let's do it.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: SiO is the homie for really, I'm so sorry, sire
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: I apologize, but she ain't reached to the end of
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: the second episode.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: She's like, Yo, shout out to y'all.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Long ass podcast again with to find you, Imani whatever.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: You want to call me.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: He don't even know how to say his name.
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  Speaker 3: Music on I G, Instagram, Patreon, all eyes on e Joe,
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  Speaker 4: I'm proud of what you're doing with it, proud of.
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  Speaker 3: What it's been. Fun, It's been really dope. It's dope. Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 3: how are you?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you again for pulling up on We love your
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  Speaker 4: energy here. Please tell these people where to find you
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  Speaker 4: and tell me not to yell at her.
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  Speaker 3: Trump.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it was excitement to see you. It was
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  Speaker 4: excitement to see you, y'all. I'm gonna go get something
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  Speaker 4: to eat with my lady. We will see y'all next
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  Speaker 4: week here on So Shameless, Peace Trump that I ain't
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  Speaker 2: I love Tasa.
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  Speaker 4: I'm hating on the God damn