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216: Sister Wives Recap - A Time to Weep, A Time to Laugh (S19 E16) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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  Speaker 1: of your hosts, Delia here with my real tight homegirl
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  Speaker 1: and my daughter in law Beatrice. We are here tonight
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  Speaker 1: to talk SILSTA waves Honey Girls, Season nineteen, episode sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: just sixteen chalk full of so much filler and so
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  Speaker 1: much Christine, and so much of this wedding preparation.
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  Speaker 2: I can't take out. We've already seen that.
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  Speaker 1: I literally can't take it. Every week I scream about it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to try and not do that this week.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just like I just the audacity of DLC.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot.
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  Speaker 2: It's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot. Now, before we get into our recap of
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  Speaker 1: the episode, we do have some like newsworthy ideas that
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  Speaker 1: we want to discuss. Also, I think we have like
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  Speaker 1: two or three people who have called in to sound
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  Speaker 1: off on the Browns, and we're going to be listening
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  Speaker 1: to those messages and answering those messages at the end
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  Speaker 1: of this podcast, after or video however, you're consuming this content,
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  Speaker 1: so this might be a little bit of a long one,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm ready for it. That Okay, let's start with
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  Speaker 1: news worthy items, beginning with Mary the Brown lady. I
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  Speaker 1: was upon ig like last Friday or some I think
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  Speaker 1: it was Friday, I don't actually really remember, and I
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  Speaker 1: happened to see that Mary was live. I really never
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  Speaker 1: catch her lives. I certainly never go looking for her lives,
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  Speaker 1: but I saw that she was live, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: let me just pop on in there with my raccoon's self.
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  Speaker 1: She and Jen were doing one of her live thingies,
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  Speaker 1: and I popped on just as they were beginning to
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  Speaker 1: complain about fans fans being a little bit overly interested
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  Speaker 1: in and her business, okay, and in specific, they were
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  Speaker 1: talking about the recent article that I think came out
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  Speaker 1: through in Touch Weekly where they reported that Mary has
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  Speaker 1: taken out a third count of three trace Honey three loans.
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  Speaker 1: She's taking out a third loan on her haunted B
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  Speaker 1: and B. Why I don't know, And so that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of I wanted to talk about it, mainly so that
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  Speaker 1: we could ask the raccoons what the hell's going on,
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  Speaker 1: because this house cannot be worth that much in marijuana
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  Speaker 1: way taught in the condition that it's in now. I
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  Speaker 1: think she purchased the home like twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen around then, I think she purchased it for
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and somewhat thousand dollars, which I think is
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  Speaker 1: the original loan, okay. And then I think around two
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  Speaker 1: years after that there is an additional loan, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not getting the numbers exact, so I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you that right now. You can read the article,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like three seventy it's still three something, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then the most recent loan was in the four hundreds,
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  Speaker 1: and so again three separate loans. And my question was
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  Speaker 1: was whether the subsequent loans absorbed the first loan. So,
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  Speaker 1: if she got a loan out, for example, in twenty
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  Speaker 1: seventeen for three hundred to mortgage the home, and then
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  Speaker 1: took another loanout for three seventy two years later, does
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  Speaker 1: that include the three hundred thousand original mortgage or is
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  Speaker 1: this an additional three hundred and seventy thousand dollars that
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  Speaker 1: she's taking out against that home. And additionally, in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, when she's taking out the third loan, does
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  Speaker 1: that absorb the previous loans or is this an entirely
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  Speaker 1: new loan, Because if it's an entirely new loan. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about like one point one million dollars leveraged against
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  Speaker 1: the haunted BMB. That's crazy, And I don't see how
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  Speaker 1: that the value of the house supports that kind of
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  Speaker 1: a bank loan, unless it's a different kind of loan,
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  Speaker 1: maybe taking out some money in order to renovate the
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  Speaker 1: B and B. I don't know, but like, why are
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  Speaker 1: you taking out loans every couple two three years on
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  Speaker 1: this house when I believe she's probably rolling in dough,
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  Speaker 1: not just from TLC but from worthying up and from
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  Speaker 1: her Lula Rowe MLM. Like she's making a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: Why would she need to continue to take out these loans?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the Browns are known for making the worst
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  Speaker 3: fucking financial decisions ever. But if she is rolling in dough,
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  Speaker 3: maybe she can afford all the loans. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: know my Non and Poppy they took out like several
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  Speaker 3: liens on their house and then they ultimately lost it
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  Speaker 3: because they couldn't afford all of those payments.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was just a young teenageers, right know
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  Speaker 3: what any of that means? I don't know how you
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  Speaker 3: even take out a lean. Why would you even do that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you don't take out a lean, you take out
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  Speaker 1: a loan, and if you don't pay your loan, they'll
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  Speaker 1: put a lien on your house. Oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Means these people owe me money and when they sell
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  Speaker 1: the house, they've got to pay me before they get
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  Speaker 1: any of that money.
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  Speaker 2: What.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mary doesn't have any leans, but she's got
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  Speaker 1: these loans and I'm just wondering, because of course I'm
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  Speaker 1: so nosy. I'm like wondering how it's structured and also
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  Speaker 1: why she would have to do it. But then that's
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  Speaker 1: none of my damn business. And apparently all of us
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  Speaker 1: inquiring mind raccoons are getting under Mary and Jen's skin.
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  Speaker 2: Because Crime River.
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  Speaker 1: There are people out there, content creators, influencers who are
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  Speaker 1: talking about the loans, and apparently they're pissed off about it,
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  Speaker 1: Like why are you talking about this stuff?
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  Speaker 3: Because you're a national TV star and everybody's obsessed and
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  Speaker 3: wants to be up your ass and know everything about everything.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything.
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  Speaker 1: Because you guys lie and because you guys hid style
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  Speaker 1: how you never tell the truth, And so we get
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  Speaker 1: these dribs and drabs. We hear about home purchases and
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  Speaker 1: home sales, and so of course I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. That's the nature of the beef.
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  Speaker 2: Mary, thank god, so stupid. If you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be talked about, then don't be on TV.
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  Speaker 1: Stay mad, cope harder. This is what we're talking about again.
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  Speaker 1: So if anybody's listening or watching and you kind of
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  Speaker 1: understand what she's doing here financially, we would love to know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: very very much. You know what I didn't do, honey,
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  Speaker 2: No you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I just went right into it. Let me just take
• 6:16
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• 6:31
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• 6:57
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• 7:35
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• 7:38
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• 8:07
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• 8:14
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• 8:33
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• 9:39
  Speaker 1: back to the news where the idels. The second thing
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of just wanted to talk about was Mattie
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  Speaker 1: Brown or Maddie whatever her name is now that she's
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  Speaker 1: married Caleb Girl. Yeah, so she started a podcast, I
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: want to say it was like one month ago.
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  Speaker 2: It was literally six weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: It was six weeks ago, weeks ago with her friend
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  Speaker 1: called the Authenticity.
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  Speaker 2: Podcast, The Authentic Society.
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  Speaker 1: The Authentic Society. Well, apparently Maddie has decided she no
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  Speaker 1: longer wants to be authentic and she no longer wants
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: to be part of this podcast. She issued a statement,
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: why don't you read it to us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she posted on Instagram, and she goes it's the
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  Speaker 3: closing of a chapter. After much reflection, I've decided to
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  Speaker 3: step away from the Authentic Society podcast. I've truly enjoyed
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  Speaker 3: the experience, learned so much, and I'm deeply grateful for
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  Speaker 3: the support from all of you. However, it's clear this
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: project no longer aligns with my goals or the vision
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  Speaker 3: I have for my future and my family.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's been six weeks. It's not like we've been
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: following you for six years and you're dipping out on
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  Speaker 1: her show everybody loves.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was not popular.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: It was not popular, and the reason it's not popular
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: is because you're not dropping truth bombs. And the only
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: people who are listening to your podcast are middle aged
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  Speaker 1: white women, losers like me who are hoping you're going
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: to talk about Cody Brown and everything that's going on,
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: because you seem to be the most angry out of
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: all the children. And so then you're gonna start a
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  Speaker 1: podcast and we're going to expect that you start saying stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and then you don't say anything. You start talking about parenting.
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  Speaker 1: I know, honey, I'm in my forties. For real, I
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: don't need to know about your parenting tips?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for real, Yeah, she would, she would start it,
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: don't look at any like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean my forties, I know what your
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: your parenting tips are?
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  Speaker 2: No, for real, for real? I thought you were thirty five.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, I get that a lot.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Way.
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  Speaker 3: No, she would post like some like little clips and
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: stuff where she would kind of be like talking shit
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: about her family, but that was it, like just like
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: little bits here and there, but it was the majority
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: of the podcast was just her and her friend talking
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: about how to parent toddlers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I don't want to hear that.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I personally don't want to hear that. And I
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: think that there are one million other podcasts that do
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: that and do that better. And we're just kind of
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: tired of people just talking about nothing on the internet
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  Speaker 1: except for us, well for us.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, everybody thinks that they can do a podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I swear to everybody has a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, but we've been doing it for three years.
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  Speaker 1: This is our two hundred and I want to say
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  Speaker 1: sixteenth episode.
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  Speaker 2: God damn. We're dedicated.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: We are dedicaated. We have youtubell, we have a Patreo,
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: we are doing the damn thing. I'm not trying to
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: hate or anything, but it takes commitment. You got to
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: show up, I got to go to your house, drive
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: you over here, all of that. But it takes work.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: You got to plan this shit out, and then you
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: got other communities that are tied to this community. It
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: is a whole global system. Yeah, but you have to
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: think about so. I think Maddie probably just thought maybe
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: it would just all happen for her. Yeah, maybe she's
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: seeing mckelt on Patreon and maybe they're making a lot
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: of money. Do that, Yeah, do Patreon. But like you
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: have to be willing, though, to tell stories and to
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  Speaker 1: give examples, to be honest, to be honest with people.
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  Speaker 1: And if what you're gonna do is just drop like
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  Speaker 1: pepper sprinkle fairy dust in like a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: the truths that we already know, we're bored of it
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: And like, look, I get it. If you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to create more drama and stuff like, that's totally fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's cool that she wants to focus on her family
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  Speaker 3: and friends, But don't start a fucking podcast and calling
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  Speaker 3: it the authentic society when you're not really authentic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're not saying the things that you know
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: we want to hear. The people who are listening are
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: rabbid raccoons in the dumpster for TLC.
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  Speaker 2: And they would have made so much money if she.
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  Speaker 1: Was just trashing where to God.
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  Speaker 3: If she pulled up the text receipts and all this
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: stuff about Robin.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the group chat for Christmas, if she
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: released the screenshots, that would have been so great. As
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: I live and breathe, Beatrice, I would be so satisfied.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you're no contact with these people, what do you
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  Speaker 2: gotta lose?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't mean nothing. I think she's
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: maybe trying to be a bit protective for Janelle Lame.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but like you're almost thirty or you're thirty, Like,
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  Speaker 1: just start telling the truth. These people are averse to
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  Speaker 1: telling the truth.
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  Speaker 2: They are, all right.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: The last bit of it's not necessarily a newsworthy item.
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  Speaker 1: It could be entirely misinformation or disinformation. But somebody made
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  Speaker 1: a post on Reddit recently speaking with some authority about
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  Speaker 1: what happened between McKelty and Robin. Now we cannot verify
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: the veracity of this it's reddite, but I did think
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: it was important because we've actually talked about this before,
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  Speaker 1: so I wanted to share it. Okay. This post is
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: titled rumor about mchelt Robin split. It is also posted
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: by a user Wonderful Guidance six. This user says, please
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  Speaker 1: delete if this isn't allowed or has already been discussed.
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  Speaker 1: Just saw a TikTok from the Sarah Fraser Show. In it,
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  Speaker 1: she says that the reason the split occurred is because
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: rob been asked multiple of the OG thirteen, which would
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  Speaker 1: be the kids, multiple members about Garrison's will. If this
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  Speaker 1: is true, the bloody audacity of that woman, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we've kind of talked about like the possibility
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: of their falling out being because of Garrison or something
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  Speaker 3: that was talked about with Garrison. But for if it's
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  Speaker 3: actually Robin asking about his will to multiple members of
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  Speaker 3: the family to try and see what her cut of
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: This woman is evil, diabolical, so crazy, demonic, like straight
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: up principalities and powers. Now, I don't know who this
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Sarah Fraser person is. I've never listened to this person podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know when she said that if she had receipts, timelines.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she had any evidence whatsoever, but
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: it does kind of click in about right, yeah, vibrationally speaking,
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  Speaker 1: like I was wondering if maybe McKelty was just sick
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: of the fact that none of the kids showed up,
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  Speaker 1: Certainly none of the adult kids in Robin's family showed up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that might have been enough for her to say, fuck it,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. But in addition
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  Speaker 1: to that, to then have Robin allegedly asking sniffing around
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  Speaker 1: about Garrison's will, that is entirely crazy. That's a woman
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  Speaker 1: who was so self deluded, cannot read a room, and
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  Speaker 1: it's so proximate in the timeline to Garrison's actual passing
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  Speaker 1: that she just she would have absolutely no heart, honey,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely none none.
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  Speaker 3: Like what the actual fuck? And did they go to
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: the actual funeral ceremony?
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  Speaker 2: I forgot?
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  Speaker 3: Like, wasn't there pictures of codyum Robin there?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: We saw photos, all of us saw photos from the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: memorial that I think the military put on. But there
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: was a separate service, which was a funeral, and I'm
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: not sure whether the kids were there I'm just going
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: to assume that they weren't, because if they went to that,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they wouldn't go to this one, right,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just really really unfortunate. And that just
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: got me thinking, like, Okay, so I know Janelle just
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: recently sold the condo for Garrison. I think it sold
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: for four hundred some odd thousand dollars. I'm sure he
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: had a mortgage on it, so I'm not sure what
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the equity would be, but I'm just wondering if she
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: was sniffing around about that too, just like the gall
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and the audacity you would have to have when Garrison
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: was so on the outs with his dad, Yeah, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: so deeply hurt to think that you would still have
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: some kind of a financial interest in what he left
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: behind after you hurt him so much.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I mean really like and the nature of his death,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: and you're going to really ask about that right now?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, wild I.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Would have slapped that bitch across the face.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, and if I were McKelty and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: anybody else in that family, I would just never ever
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: ever talk to her ever or him again.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: So again, we cannot verify the veracity of that. I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: don't know who Sarah Frasier is, but I just thought
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: that was interesting and in my opinion, completely believable.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Oh totally. Yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: All right, now without any further ado, having gotten that
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: all out, yeah, let's get into the most recent episode,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: which is season nineteen, episode sixteen.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Entitled Time to Weep, Time to Laugh.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, So we.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Had like three major sections. We had Cody and Robin
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: doing their ATV thing, Mary cutting up her coil to
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Cody with Jin, and then Christine and David's wedding special
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: that we've already seen.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: M the entire thing, like actual footage that we have
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: already seen. Yeah, Like it would be it would be
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: different if maybe there was some b roll stuff going
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: on and it were right different if we didn't already
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: see them have the mimosas and the facials and have
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Christine sitting down with David at the B and B. Like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: but we've seen this, We've literally.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Seen, literally seen it already. Like I thought it was
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: going to be different footage from the wedding special, but
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: they just didn't.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: But no, it's literally the same.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I just it's crazy. And then you're manufacturing drama with
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: avalonone when she was over there with her grandma the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: entire time, and we're worried about the river and how fast,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: how fast it's moving. It's just, oh, Lord Jesus, so
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: stupid when there's so much content you could be producing
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and creating that we would love to hear and see.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: But next week we're going to see them get married
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and Christine grind up on David again that we've already said.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And the thing is, if you look at the ratings,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you will be able to see that about the same
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: amount of people that watch weekly the show, we're also
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: watching the Christine and David wedding special. Yeah, so it's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the exact same audience. So you're putting all of us
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: through it again knowingly because you know we already thought it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Oh got it, chaps, my high my hyde.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Well, well, let's start with the best part, which was
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Robin getting thrown off the TV.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Is her neck broken? I don't know, Let me yank
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: this helmet off of her head and further injure her.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: He's so dumb. You don't move people's neck around and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: there's fine around if they've had an injury.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Dummy, take the helmet off either, like yanking it off pop.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I know it was crazy.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: In his talking head, he's like, she could have been
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: injured so bad. We shouldn't we could have gotten a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: life light sho. It's like the same thing with COVID
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: where he's like I saw the Grim Reaper, like, you're
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: so fucking.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: And he showed his actual thermometer and it was like
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: ninety nine point six or something stupid like that, So ridiculous.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So they're out on Coyote Pass. Yeah, they're gonna have
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: like this fun out on the four wheelers. I'm just
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: thinking to myself, isn't that how Dayton injured himself? Yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and injured his eye when he was out with Cody specifically,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and Cody wasn't taking care of him and wasn't watching
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the kids properly, so he injured himself an injury he's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: gonna have for the rest of his life. Then we
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: have Rob been talking about. I mean, I love getting
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: on the four wheelers, but I love having done. I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: won't tell my kids all the crazy things that I've
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: done because I'm so protactive over my children and I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: don't want them to do these things. I'm like okay,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: but Dayton has already lost an eye, I know, like
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Dan has already injured himself for the rest of his life, honey.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you get flown off the fright TV.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and it's like so, and it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Was very dangerous because Cody's coming this way and she
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: just zips right in front of him and then goes
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: up over the ail and flies off. Yeah, it could
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: have been a lot worse.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Well, and people on Reddit are saying it was staged,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: which I could kind of see something like that because
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Cody says when he's like braiding Robin, like, why would
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: you do that?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It was so crazy? This is so stupid.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: He's like yelling at her as he's taking off her helmet,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: worrying about her broken neck.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, it was so crazy. Why you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: would do that?
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: It looked like you did it on purpose. And then
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: it cuts to the next scene and so people think
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: they did that on purpose.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: She really seemed to go flying off that ATV.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know, girl, but he just stopped.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It didn't keep going exactly, it didn't land on her
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: anything like that. So I don't I don't really know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't mean to laugh yet.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: We don't want anybody to be hurt, but like, this
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: is what's passing its content, and Cody, you're so stupid.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: So dumb.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So after that, he gets her all together and she's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: all bedraggled and her hair's all crazy and she's like
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: looking in the mirror to try and fix her hair.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: They take those four wheelers up the hills that they
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: can watch the sunset through the quivering, quaking aspect romantic
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and immediately launch into a conversation about how crazy Cody
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: has become. Yeah, and is he sure he didn't want
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Janelle no more?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Are you sure?
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Are you sure?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And of course we get to the question about whether
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Robin's okay with being in a monogamous relationship.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: With This conversation was so fucking weird. I'm like, this
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: was so scripted, But then at the same time, like
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Cody to me was coming off kind of genuine because
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: he's like telling Robin over and over and over again,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: all of these wives, all of them are gone and
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: everybody's moved on. I've never loved any of them. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: only love you because you're the one that showed me
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: true divine love and I hate everybody else, and that's it, Like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: let's be a monogamoist.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I found it really fascinating that Robin said
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: some base things to him that are clearly very true.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: For example, well, you seem to be rewriting history, though,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: like I know that you loved your wives when you
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: married them, right, And she actually gets him to admit
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: they're on the mountain, like, yeah, I loved my wives,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: but please don't make me compare, right, But then she
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: keeps pushing him as if her ultimate intention was to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: get him to compare and actually to say the words
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: out loud. Well, I mean I loved them, but I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: never love them the way that I love you, which
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: is something that he's been saying for I don't know
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: how many seasons now. Yeah, but it's almost like she
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: wanted him to say it again. She wanted to hear
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it again. Yeah, Or the alternative of that would be
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: she really does think that he loved his wives, and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the things that he's been saying have been hurtful and harmful,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and she wants him to retract it and make it right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know which what do we think Robin's doing
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: here in this moment.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to tell because for me, I kind
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: of got the impression that she was trying to get
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: him to admit and say like I shouldn't have said
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: these things blah blah blah. But it's Cody Brown, so
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: he can't really do that. He even like lets something
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: split like slip out, where he says something to the
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: effect of like, yeah, I know, even with you, I've
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: gotten un heated arguments where I've threatened to leave you,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: but I don't mean that, and I'm very sorry for that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: So like he'll apologize to Robin for saying hein as
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: shit like that, but then everything else, like when she
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: accuses him of rewriting history, he's like, well, yeah, but
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Mary did.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: That first, right, Yes, I am a flip flopper, yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and yes I say different things, and yes I obviously
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: am rewriting history. But like Mary doesn't choo, so it
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: You're okay. This is not.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Really how that works. Like the whole conversation starts because
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: when they get to the top of the mountain, he
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: comes to her as if he was going to say
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: something romantic, and then she's like, well, did you want
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to say something? And he's just like, ah, well, never mind,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, there was a time when you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: would have been romantic, but you're different now. Yeah, things
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: have changed. And we get kind of the same talking
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: points about how this is all affected Cody, and then
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he says again that his family kept him from his goals.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got in his way.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Got in his way. Robin like tries in that moment
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to be like, don't say that. That sounds really terrible,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: but he's like, but they did, Like I wanted the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: one house, and we had like this vision for our life,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and nobody wanted to do it. And at that point,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: by the time we're in Flagstaff and I'm getting all
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: this resistance, I'm just like I don't care anymore. And
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: this is where we have Robin on the couch saying
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: something like, yeah, Cody changed, but everybody changed, and then
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: she corrects that and she's like, well, actually it wasn't me.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't change. No, I've always been an angel, bit
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I've always been over here trying to support the fear,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of course, but Mary and Christine and Janelle, they're the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: ones who changed.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, okay, there's the real motive there. Absolutely, Yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: and that's what made me realize. I'm like, Okay, this
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: is a script. This is something that they put on together.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And Cody still like can't help but put his foot
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: in his mouth, Like I feel like they have this plan.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Cody and Robin, they're like, look, this is what we're
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: gonna say on Coyote Pass because we have to change
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: our image. We want people to like us. We gotta
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: fix this shit. And then Cody goes out there and
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: says some shit like my family got in the way.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I don't miss anybody. Well, actually, I guess I miss
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the love for my children, but I don't miss anybody else.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: But did you see how he said that. He didn't
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: say I miss my kids. I miss spending time with
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: my family. I miss having a relationship with these people.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I missed their love and adoration and the respect that
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I used to get as their father and the priest
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of this family. I miss that. But that's how he
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: worded it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That's it. That is how he worded it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Complete narcissist.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: It's crazy, And like that's why in the scenes like this,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I can look at how Cody talks to Robin and
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: how he talks to everybody else, and I'm like, man,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: he's probably not good to Robin. Like he's like braiding
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: her for falling off the fucking ATV. He's like cutting
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: her off mid sentence in this conversation. A lot, he's
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: like totally rewriting history and not admitting to anything that
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Robin wants him to admit to to rehab his image.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: So they probably don't have like the healthiest relationship. But
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: then at the same time, Robin is such an evil,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: manipulative shrew that I just I can't really feel bad
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: for her. I really can't, No, And you have to.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Wonder why she keeps pushing this relationship with Janelle, because
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: out of all of the wives, she was probably least
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: aligned with Janelle. I mean, Janelle was the one who
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: saw right through her bullshit and doesn't give a fuck no.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: And we hear Cody talk about how truly it's been
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Robin that's been the one pressuring him to stay in
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the relationship with Mary, to stay in this relationship with Janelle,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: And we hear him in this conversation out on the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: mountain saying, I don't want to like, can you hear
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: my words I'm speaking to you? Do you understand my words.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to I only want to be with you.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: And then these producers every now and again, I'm less.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, bitch, thank you for this. Because they
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: cut to Janelle on the couch and she's just like, well,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know why he allows himself to be controlled
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: by Robin. So he feels like he has to stay
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in these marriages just because she wants him to. I mean,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: sucks to be you whatever, Like that's your shit, for real,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that's your shit.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Then yep, And they also panned to Mary and Mary's like, yeah,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I know that Robin had a hand in keeping or
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: like trying to force Cody into being in this marriage
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: with me, so like she even knew what it was.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But then Mary has to, you know, throw Robin a
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: bone and yeah, but I know she came into this
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: family with good intentions. I know she wanted a belaying
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: of his family.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Right, But when she's saying that, I feel like she's
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: emphasizing that this is how Robin felt when she entered
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the family, Like she said this actually two or three times.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is like the third time she
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: said that, and this time she did add on that
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: nothing has changed but I feel like maybe she added
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that on biggrudgingly, because I think she knows very well
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that something definitely changed. And again, I say, and I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: said this last week. If we are listening to Mary's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: random friends and everything that they're saying about what they
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: observed in Vegas in Flagstaff and how Mary was alone,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and how Cody was definitely favoring Robin, then we know
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that Mary was feeling.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: That too, right.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand. I don't understand why she
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: feels the need to defend them me neither. It's so weird,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: it's lame. It's super sick of it, Mary, I know, like,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: grow a backbone. You're in your fifties to.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: These crackers, it's so annoying. Yes, And then the other
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: interesting thing that came out of this conversation with Cody
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: and Robin was Cody talking about his lover that he
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: had in college where he lost his virginity to some
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: random bitch. And this is the first time we've ever
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: heard about it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Such a non sequitor, like, why are we talking about that?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because it was intimacy, but he only
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: he brought it up to dig at Janelle and Christine,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: because he's like the only people that knew about it were.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Mary and Robin.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Robin actually found out about it within the first month
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: of us dating because they.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Felt so safe with her.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: But I never told Christine and Janelle because they were
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: always unsafe to me. So again, another dig. And it's
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: like Cody later in the episode said something about Mary,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: like how he doesn't want to talk bad about her anymore,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: and you know, we should have been divorced long ago.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: There was many times where we should have divorced, and
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: we never did, and we just had a hard marriage entirely.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: But I won't talk bad about her. But then he's
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: doing this and talking shit about Janelle and Christine.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: He literally can't help himself.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: You really can't.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: He cannot help himself. We can't take any ownership for
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: anything without also placing responsibility on someone else. He cannot
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: exist in a space where it's just him taking the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: hits to the responsibility and saying I'm sorry and this
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is my action plan going forward to be a better person.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Because he does not think like that and he does
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: not care at that level. I thought it was weird
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and I want to run this by you that Robin
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: kept kept bringing up Janelle and are you sure?
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, and he would be unequivocal, like he was
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: being crystal clear throughout the entire conversation, like she doesn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: want me, like she's so over me, Like she feels
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: about me the way I felt about Mary. Not interested,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: She's already gone, Henny, let this go. Like he had
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to say that, I don't know, three four, five times,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and then she would bring it up again, like are
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you sure? Did Janelle actually say that? And I'm wondering
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: what this is about, because everything with Robin is being
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: orchestrated behind the scenes of her dumb mind, her unlit brain,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering why she's doing this. What her money? Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I think I think she is definitely concerned about the
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Denaro's right now, honey, about the money and about how
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: they're going to sustain themselves. I think she's intelligent enough
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to know the writing is on the wall, We've got
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a limited, finite amount of seasons left, and what are
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: we gonna do without an income?
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And so are you sure? Are you sure? Janelle's God, yeah, please,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: can you work it out? Are you sure you can
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: work it out? Cody's like, fuck, no, we're fucking done.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: It's super weird. And I'm also wondering when this scene
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: was filmed, because I'm like, it's so out of place
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: after last season when Janelle storms off and tells Cody
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: fuck you, like it's been done for a really long time.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Even in this point in this season, episode sixteen, it's
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: like Janelle's like barely in the episodes anymore, Like she's
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: like doing her own thing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: She's in North carro I wish we'd had more of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Janelle me I'm me too, come on me too.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I'd rather see that than fucking Christine and David. But
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: it's just like it's it's oddly placed. So I'm wondering
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: when the timeline was of this whole conversation, because if
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: it's like a year after Janelle left, like why are
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: you making this bullshit?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Ub?
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Or if it's like recently after Janelle left, then maybe
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: I could understand why Robin was pressing on it. But
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: we never know because we get footage pieced together from
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: the last four years, right.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And you cannot convince me that they haven't already talked
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: this to death in the privacy of their own McMansion
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and that she already knows the answers to this, so
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: she's really just performing for the cameras and she's trying
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to get us to believe something. And honestly, she was
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: kind of convincing, like she did seem heartbroken. Yeah, I
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: believed her when she said, I feel stuck and I'm
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: having an identity crisis, Like I don't know who I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: am because I always envisioned myself to be a polygamist
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and here I am. That's not the way life worked out.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And Cody at this point is like, well, can you
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: accept me as a monogamous And I have to say,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and I said this a couple of weeks ago, maybe
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: when they were at the Bastro in the attic and
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they were talking, and the way he's just so sprung
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: for her, like in this scenely, I can feel how
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: much he loves her and how much he just wants
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: to be enough for her. And he kind of talks
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: about it at the end of this episode when he's
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: talking about how his other wives didn't think he was
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: worth it bullshit or didn't think he had worth and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: was worthless. So he doesn't want Robin to regard him
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that way. But I felt him pleading and asking like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: am I enough? Can can me and you be enough?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Because he does not want another woman? No, he only
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: wants her. Yeah, and I think she doesn't want another
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: woman either. I don't think she could compete with another woman. Yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think she can run the risk of him
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: being sprung with another woman because she would lose in
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: that scenario. So I thought it was kind of dare
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I say sweet? Of course, I just kind of like,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: he's just like, can I be enough? I felt that
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: from him. I'm sorry, and I want to apologize for
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: that editatement, but I felt like it felt earnest to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: me and then her like finally having that moment of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: just like okay, yeah, I get it, and I'll let
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I'll work on that. I mean, wow, these are the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: raw materials I have to work. So I'm just gonna like,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna suspend my disbelief and give you my
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: opinions based on what they showed me.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean in this scene, I thought Robin
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: was more genuine, Like I feel like she was trying
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: to call him out on his bullshit, like you're rewriting history,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: You're saying some really awful things. Like, and Cody even
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: said in his talking head like Robin was the one
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: that pushed me to work with Mary. Robin also wanted
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: me to sleep on Christine's couch when she was wanting
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: to leave me, and I said, no, fuck that. So
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: maybe there is a whirl where Robin was trying to
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: in her weird warped way to like advocate for Cody
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: to work on things with the wives and stuff, because
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think she really wanted this to happen. And again, like,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: she probably didn't want this to happen because she wants
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: the money and she wants.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: To be in charge. She wants to be she wants
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to be the head bitch in charge. But she still
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: needs them to be in her orbit because they're the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: ones that are funneling into her lifestyle.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Right, it's all about what they can do for her.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: And she even kind of says this in her talking
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: head like, I feel like I've lost my dream and
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: what I am visioned for my life. Like it's not
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: about like the death of all these marriages and the
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: breakup of the family. It's about her identity crisis. It's
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: about her dream being lost, right, sad like pathetic and
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: then Cody talks about like, well, we have to have
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: our new dream, and then this is like where he
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: kind of brings up like we have to get out
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: of this place, like we have to get out.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Of this They start setting up the ultimate move because
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: these people are trying to think like they're they're trying
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: to play chess when they're really playing checkers, and we
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: can see there, we can telegraph their moves. But what
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do is get us prepared for the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: ultimate sale of the mcmasion because they know when we
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: see how much they're going to sell that house for,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: we're going to be up in arms. That's going to
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: bring into the light the disparity in terms of income
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and property and assets, and everybody's going to know. So
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: they're trying to set it up now so that it
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: makes sense, like I want to move to Europe. I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: just want to go to Switzerland. I want to be
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: with my beautiful girls. Won't I fit in Switzerland? That's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: so crazy, You're so dumb. But what they're really doing
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: is letting us know that they're going to upgrade to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: an even big girl o house.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: God, I hate them so much, even.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: More lavish lifestyle.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I literally hate them.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: They're so hateable.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, they're the worst people.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: It's so terrible, like when they're just riding around on
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: these four wheelers. God my god. And Janelle was in
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: her RV like in the rim, which wasn't level on
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the ground dorm park had to go her own water hoody.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just like the disparity, it's so bad.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: And his whole Europe comment like I want to go
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: there so I don't have to see or feel or
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: deal with any of this.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Right, Like, oh my god, you suck.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: That's sorry. Yep, I'm sorry. I'm just like, it's just
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: like be an adult. I mean really like, you did
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: some shit, maybe didn't do all the shit, although I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: would maintain you did all the shit. Maybe you didn't
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: do all of it, but you did a lot of it.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So own it and try to fix it, Like, don't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: just run away. And you think you're gonna go to Europe.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I know you, mister kewan On, mister Maga, mister Republican,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go to Switzerland. You're gonna go to France.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, the culture is quite different.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Although I mean somebody did comment on
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: our Patreon where his instagram borrow where we go one,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: where we go? All, Yeah, it's actually something he used
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: to say on the show.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: It's not a Q reference.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Well, Q says that, And I don't know how long
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Q and the cult of that personality has been around
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: before they were officially qan on. I'm wondering if they're
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like the Tea Party. I'm just wondering. That's logan has
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: very much been associated for quite some time. But maybe
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: it's not QAnon. But is it such a stretch to think,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I mean that he was totally into QAnon and he
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: thought that what did they think was going to happen
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in Dallas? Didn't QAnon think that JFK Junior was going
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to reappear, that he never died, Yeah, and he was
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: going to appear in Dallas at some point a couple
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: of years ago. And that Trump is like the prophetic Messiah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: He was sent here by Jesus.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I can see Cody being a part of
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that bullshit. Yeah, totally anyway.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Anyway, so then after that whole bullshit with Cody and Robin,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: then we have Mary in Parawan cutting up a quilt
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: that she made for Cody on some anniversary or whatever.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Can't you just see now they're all just trying to
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: plan content though, Yeah, like this doesn't feel organic to me.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Feels like, okay, well, Cody asks for this, so let's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: just create a scene where Gen comes over and we
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: cut up the quilt and then we talk about shit again.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Just like, so not authentic.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Cody didn't ask for it though. I mean, Cody, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: guess wanted his shirts back, but that really means that
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Robin wanted his shirts back.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Why I don't know, well, and the way Cody says
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: it as well. When I married Mary, she all of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a sudden took game to control over all of my things,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and so she took like special artifacts and sentimental things
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: and she got it all, but none of the other
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: wives did. Well, what if some of my other wives
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: want some of these things?
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I e.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Robin, Like, Robin is the only wife that's left who
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: would be asking for your dumb jersey when you rust
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: old in high school as a flamboyantly gay wrestler.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's his first gay lover. Maybe he lost
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: his virginity to do guy. Maybe he got pigged by
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: a guy.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Flamboyantly gay wrestling.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: So she wants his jersey or whatever. But like it's
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: in a quilt, so it's not gonna be an intact jersey.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Well, but Robin wants it for the memory. And she's
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a hoarder, Okay, she has a bona fide.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be a.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Scrap picking yeah, for sure, craft room a scrap of it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have their whole sex room with all
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: of their little stuff, all of their yeldos and sex
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: wings and everything, and she'll put off all of his
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: memorabilia and the weird photos that she has superimposed his
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: face and her face on from the other families. Like, yeah,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: that's Robin's dream.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: So I don't think Cody's asking. I just can't see
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: how Cody would want like the rags left behind after
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: she made a quilt, Like, I mean, it's not like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: an intact item of a piece of clothing. I don't
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: understand anyway. So Mary and Jen set about to deconstruct
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: this booty ass, dumb ass quilt, and in doing so,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: we have a couple of morsels I think that are
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: worth talking about. First and foremost, Mary tells Jen that
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: twenty years into her relationship with Cody, and this was
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: happening in Vegas during the rentals. So we're in season one,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: we're in season two, yeah, one two, one two. So
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: at the very beginning, Cody said to her, you have
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: put me through twenty years of pain and discomfort, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I basically hate you, and so I'm going to now
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: put you through twenty years of pain and suffering and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: discomfort because you've been such a complete bitch to me.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: And Mary almost proudly says, well, I didn't actually stay
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: for twenty years, did I? Oh, I'm sorry. You stayed
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: for thirteen years. Okay, you stay for fifteen years after
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: your husband made a declarative statement that he hates you
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: that much that he's going to make your life a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: living hell. And then I started thinking to myself, bitch,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: that's the very beginning of the show. And so we've
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: talked about how Cody also melted down Mary's ring at
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the beginning. We've talked about how toxic this family probably
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: was from the beginning. Yeah, And so now we have
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: further evidence that at the very beginning of this show,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: shit was shitty in the Brown Household. And still we
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: had Mary and everybody else tap dancing for their dinner,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: pretending polygamy is still awesome.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me is still great.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Well Mary thought Maybe Mary thought she was the only
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: one having problems, and so she was just suffering in silence,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Like maybe she thought that the otherwise were fine and
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: it was just her that was getting told that bach.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I doubt it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, like I think they were all having
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: problems except for Cody and Robin. But like I feel
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: like Mary is so dumb, and I feel like she
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: thought it was just her and Cody having these issues.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think Mary knew the whole family was
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: probably falling apart. I think Mary was clocking what Robin
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: was doing. I think that, if anything, Mary and Cody
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: had at least some sort of a friendship, Like he
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: probably went over to her house from time to time
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and told him her all the tea about Christine and Janelle.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Probably not Robin, So I think Mary probably knew more
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: than that everybody was happy. I think it's a matter
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: of pride. You're on the national stage. You started this
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: by pretending that polygamy is a viable way to exist
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: in relationship with other people. You are promoting this lifestyle,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and within the first year it's all completely false and fabricated.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: And so because of your pride and maybe your shame,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you have to continue to put up with this act.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Or maybe she had a hope that it would get better.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is Mary we're talking about.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: But it's just such a lie.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, but it's a lie she's telling herself.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: It's not just a lie for us, it's a lie.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: She's telling herself that, like, maybe if I do all
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: these things, maybe if I complete this list, he'll love me.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll be worth of it, worth his love. So
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: it's actually pretty fucking sad empathetic because it's Mary just
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: sitting there groveling at Cody's feet for fifteen years, hoping
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: that he'll change his mind.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: M M.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: And I think she probably believed that when he said
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: that shit to her, like, oh, you were such a
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: horrible fucking bitch to me for twenty years, so I'm
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: gonna treat you like ask because that's what you deserve.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she does concede, actually yeah, in her talking head,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: but also to Jen, she's like, I acknowledge, like I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: wasn't the best person to live with and that got
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: me to remembering, and I just saw it on Reddit
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: to where Michelti, within the last six months or so,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: on her Patreon with her husband said she alleged that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Mary had actually been verbally and physically abusive to Cody. Oh,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: really verbally and physically physically abusive to Cody. I don't
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: know if somebody asked the question and she danced around it,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: but that was definitely the implication. And so if Mary
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: was actually in a relationship and in those early years,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: if she was physical, or if she was completely crashing
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: out because of Janelle and because of Christine, like I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: could see how she maybe traumatized him. And now that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he's got his beautiful, shy wife, like he could, he
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: has an opportunity to put her in her place. And
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: so maybe she knew. Okay, well, maybe I deserve that
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: But I mean, if you were married to Cody Brown,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you be physically.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Abusive to him?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be, but I probably I was
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: so unhappy with you. I was watching reality T squad
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: is that what it is? And I didn't watch the
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: whole thing, but she was talking about a conspiracy theory
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: where she actually thinks that Cody married Janelle to get
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: back at Mary because Mary was jealous, Mary was territorial,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and Mary was doing whatever Mary was doing in those
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: early years. And I think it was a two or
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: three year gap between when he married Mary and when
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: he married Janelle. So she thinks he actually brought Janelle in, like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and remember Janelle was married to Mary's brother. Yeah, right,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: so and Janelle and him, we're gonna get married on
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Mary's birthday, right, So it kind of does feel pretty
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: punitive in that way.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is so terrible.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: It is terrible. But I could see it. Wow, I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: could see it. So anyway, she's deconstructing this quilt and
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: she's like, you know, I have no problem sending him
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: his things. I don't sleep under this quilt. I don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: want his ratty ass, dumb ass, flamboyantly gay wrestler shirt.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: He can have it back. Yeah, And Jen just seems
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: to think that it was really horrible that he would
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: say those things to her. She also mentioned she alluded
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to the list.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she brought up the list.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: She alluded to him saying that he needed her to
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: do a few things, and then we actually have Cody
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: addressing this on the couch.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he straight up says that the list that he
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: gave Mary was to fix things about her that he
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: didn't like about.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: It right right, which is just fucking crazy.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: What do you think was on that list that he
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: didn't like?
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe her stretch marks straight up and
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: that ship in season fun when they were going to
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: the gym and Mary was weighing herself on that scale
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: and she felt terrible about her body.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, you can't get rid of stretch marks.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I know, but you know he was like, you got
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: stretch marks.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: You're a bit Oh my god, that's I'm just saying
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: so dastardly. I was thinking, maybe it's like your attitude
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: or the way you interact with these kids and this,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that and the other. I did not think it was
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: about her.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: You need to learn to break.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: It's like and if you could wear some diesel gees wild.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: And so Mary then says like she did all of
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the things, everything that he wanted, and then at the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: end of that he was still just not interested.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was just busy work.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Because he's like, yeah, here, fucking do this and leave
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: me alone. If five years, take your time, continue to
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: give me all of your money and attention funnel into
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the LC and we'll see what happens.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's sad.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm like, Mary, come on, I'm glad you're out
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: of this now. I hope you find somebody who actually
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: thinks that you're cool.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't beat well.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I actually liked when she said, and I'm paraphrasing here,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: that her perception of herself did not hinge on what
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Cody thought of her. Like right, he can think that
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: whatever he wants to think, but like you're not. It's
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: a non negotiable. You are not going to take away
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: from the way that I feel about myself. I feel
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: great about myself. And she even says to Jen, I'm happy,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: like I'm doing great.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I hope. I hope she means that me too.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I hope she's not lying, and I'm like, still lying, Yeah,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: eating ice cream and crying herself to sleep. I really
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: hope that she also says she doesn't cuddle with the quilt,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: which I thought was an interesting little tip. I'm like,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: do you though I can see it?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Because you're saying you don't probably means you do exactly,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: or that you.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Did yeah exactly.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: And then last but not at least, we have Christine
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: and David's wedding stuff, and you know what, I don't care.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been hard pressed to remember anything of import
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: other than everybody being afraid about avalon. But that was
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: like such a nothing.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Burgers stupid running around with the dramatic music.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Where did she go? Did she get stuffed in the river? Oh,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: she's with her grandma.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I know, she's my grandmother. The entire time, it's just
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: such a disservice to the fans and the people who watch.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: But like, I'm just used to it. We're in episode sixteen.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: We've been doing it the entire time, and again now
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: we are just literally going through the same footage with
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: just like additional commentary, and it sucks so bad.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Who was it?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I think it was Sister or Wives or ex wives
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of Sister Wives or whatever on ig I forget the
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: name of the account. I'm sorry, but they posted something
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: like I would rather watch Cody and Robin than one
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: more second of Christine and David's wedding And I hate
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: watching Cody and Robin. I know we hate these people,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: But Christine and David are becoming insufferable, and Mcounty mccounty
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: inserting herself into every single scene.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I know, it's so ridiculous.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: It's like I said in the car ride on the
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: way here, I was like, you know, it sucks because
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I really want to be happy for Christine, and I am.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that she found a man to grind up
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: all on and make out with. That that's fantastic. I'm
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: glad they're happy. I'm glad she found somebody. But like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: the amount of Christine and David shit that we've had
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: all season is just so egregious. It just makes me
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: not interested in it at all anymore. I really don't
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: even care. I don't even want to see Janelle and
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Mary date at this point, because if you're gonna spend
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: a whole fucking season on this shit.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, please just end me. I just I
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: can't do it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: That is a really good point, because a lot of
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: us are talking about like a branch off show of
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: some kind, an offshoot, and maybe we could follow Christine
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and David and Janelle and Marry around and the kids,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and would that be interesting? But like, if this is
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the caliber of content that you're going to be giving us,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: like at a really important time in Janelle's life, Mary's life,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and Christine's life, for like a whole host of reasons
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: that you are not exploring. If this is what you
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: were choosing to give us, then why would we watch
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: a show about these women and their career? Come on, Like, I'm.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: So over it, me too. And the only thing that
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: was cool about this whole segment was there's a little
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: scene on the riverboat, the stupid fucking riverboat, where they're
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: all getting drunk and they're driving around or whatever, and
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: you see Garrison and he saw him cheering on Christine
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: and he looks so happy, and I'm like, that is
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: so fucking sweet, man.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I wish we could.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: See more of him. I wish we could have seen him.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: It sucks.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: It does suck. I we're not out anything, and I
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: get it, but like I almost but I almost want
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: to say, like, but we love him though, we do,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: and we've been following this family since he was a
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: little boy, and like we want to see him, Like
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: for a lot of us, that would be very healing
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and wonderful to be able to see Garrison in his
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: last year, like what was he doing and what was
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: he thinking? And a Lee looks so happy, and why
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: aren't we talking to him like or Gabe, Like, I
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't get it. But maybe that's
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: what they wanted.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Well, and maybe it's too painful for them to like
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: watch scenes with him or like have his content in there,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: because like people have theorized like maybe it was because
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: him and Cody were arguing a lot and so they
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: had to cut a lot of that out because it's
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: just not great given the circumstances. But man, it just
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: secks to kind of have him erase.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And to that end, some folks are theorizing that
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the reason we're not really seeing a lot of Janelle
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and her life and her journey is because she might
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: have filmed content with Garrison and Gabe like she did
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the season prior, Like they had those dinners out and
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: we actually got to hear how Gabe was feeling and
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: what he was doing in his life, So maybe that's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: where she was putting her energy, and then after he passed,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: she's just like, I don't want that out for public consumption.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: So maybe that's why we're not seeing Janelle. So much.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I just I just wish we could me too. It's
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: like those are the best parts of the family and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: we want these kids to succeed in to thrive and whatever.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I guess. We just have mimosas and facials and McKelty.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: And Christine making out with David over and over again.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: BB you give me, Oh God, save me, save me.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I literally can cannot take it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I will become asexual. I have to see that shit.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Iwear so not sexy.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: And then we have the preview where we have Mary
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: renovating that haunted BMB.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Is she I don't know if she is. They're putting
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: black curtains up. I don't know if we were like
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: decorating for Halloween.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's moving in.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know what's happening, but like if you're
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: running this place, and maybe that ties into the most
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: recent loan. Maybe she's getting this loan so she can
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of that haunted B and B.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: That'd be interesting to watch, I think, sure.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like an HTTV type of thing like that. And
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: then we have Robin Cody cutting down more trees and
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: flagstaff and can give a fuck.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: We already saw this, We saw this exact scene over
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and over. He starts talking about Christine and she shuts
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: him up and says, but we're just happy for we
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: already saw that.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: That was last season too. I think it's so ridiculous,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: and Cody admits how he needs a lot of attention,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: specifically from Robin.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, what a shock.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: And then we have Christine's wedding day and she's grinding
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: up on David and it's so great.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: It just like I literally.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Can laying down that fat cat hed.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, she is getting piped.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Scandalizing the entire room at the reception. Hey, live your
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: best life, queen.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And again, that's great. I just am tired of seeing it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I'm tired too, But at least next week looks like
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it's done. And I'm wondering whether this will be the
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: penultimate episode, this second to the last, and on the
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: season finale of sus Story. I hope to hear those
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: words so much. You don't even understand how how much
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to manifest on our vision board those words
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: so that we can get into the fucking Sukiana of
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: it all I know, and the tell all look back talkbacks. Yeah,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: because we've got a whole nother month of all that,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: and it's already like middle of January.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I know what the fuck are we doing?
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Honey, I don't know.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I don't know.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Do we want to hear from our raccoons?
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, Now let's get into the two or three phone
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: calls we got, because you know you can call us.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: If you knew that about us, you will call us.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: All you have to do is go to speak Pipe
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: dot com slash reality TV cranch. You have ninety seconds.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: It's free to tell us what you're thinking about, and
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: we are more than likely to play it on our pod.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Now when you get a lot of these calls, so
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: we can't always play them all, but we can play these, yeah,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: and I can't wait.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: The first one we have is from Rachel.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Rachel, Hi, ladies, this is Rachel from a dumpster in
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: your neighboring state of Louisiana. And all I can say is,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad with the new year comes Marty Grossi's
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: in here pretty soon because I am going to need
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: all the crawfish, kincake and liquor that I can get
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: my hands on just to deal with these stupid people
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: on our screens that we have to deal with the Browns.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: So this is regarding Robin, of course, saying that she
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: was so traumatized by her legal divorce that she didn't
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: want to be legally married to Cody. So you spent
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: nineteen seasons saying over and over again, how the legal
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: marriages don't mean anything. It's just a piece of paper.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: It's the spiritual marriages that are sacred and important. Right,
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: So you're going to tell me that your legal marriage
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: to your first husband, which by the way, was not
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: performed in the temple because you were knocked up due
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: to premarital sex.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my, that.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Divorce, which was just legal, traumatized you so much that
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: you didn't want to be legally married to Cody. But
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: you're perfectly fine with a spiritual marriage that binds you
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: to this clown, not only on this earthly plane, but
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: for all of eternity. On kolap bullshit. You are a liar,
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: Robin Brown. You are a thief and a terrible person.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: And as Delia would say, we're of it. Happy New Year,
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: No notes, no note standing ovation, absolutely no notes.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: So great.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Are you telling me that Robin was knocked up when
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: she married David Josup and so she couldn't get married
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in the holy Yeah, she's not a hot.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to call.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Wow. I had no idea.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah girl, yeah, God.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: She presents herself as so pious and well sanctimonious when really.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: Dirty loa dog, dirty load, laying it low in sprind
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: w Yes, Robin, I totally agree, and I don't believe her,
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: and in fact, I believe Christine when Christine said that
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: from the moment that bitch came into this.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Family, she was talking about how other polygamous families have
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: husbands who divorce their legal wives, they can marry other
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: wives and adopt the kids. It was obviously on her agenda.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: It was obviously what her intention was. I don't know
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: why she tries to lie, but at this point you
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: can't stop her.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: It's pathological.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: At this point, I think she just has to lie
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: because it's like, once you lie, grows and girls like
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: you have to keep doing it.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: But the truth will set you free. Yeah, it really would.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: We're never going to get it from her, no, sorry, Rachel.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Unless she leaves Cody and takes half of everything, which
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: would be so amazing.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: It would be I would love you would be so
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: blindsided by that. I God, I would love it you
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: even imagine, Oh my god.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Please all right. Next one we have is from Annabelle.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Hi, Annabielle.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: Hey, ladies, this is Annabelle from Oklahoma. I'm here smoking
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: my weeds and watching my TLC, and I'm watching these
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: two fools, Robin and Cody, and I really get a
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: vibe that, like, I think Cody's got to be abusive
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: or something like that is going on. I mean, the
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: way the children behave, the way Robin behaves. I know
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: she's a peacekeeper, but damn, I mean she's acting like
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: when they're sitting there on their date talking, She's just like,
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: I've never seen anything like it. What do you guys
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: think about that? Another thing that I think too, I
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: think should Robin like wise up and actually leave Cody
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: and tell him, hey, it's over, we're done, get your
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: shit and get out. I would worry about like family
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: annihilator vibes from that man. I mean, he seems unhinged
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: for sure, and I mean he's got all those guns.
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: You know, he's in the gun show world. I don't know,
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: and maybe that's dramatic. I don't know your thoughts. Please
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: get back with me. Thank you.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Well, we did kind of talk about him.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: We actually mentioned that a year ago.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: I think it was likelast season when he had the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: crazy eyes and shit and his pupils were hella dilated.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: We were talking about him being like scary. I could
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: totally see him being abusive. I talked about that earlier
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: this episode. Like, I just I don't know. I think
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: there's something about him, like Robin's not a fucking saint,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: but nobody deserves to be abused. But like Robin says
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: things like about how Cody's super intense with her and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: how he's got his murder face going on, like she
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: kind of sets it up for that. I don't know
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: if that's intentional it is, but I mean, I also
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: think Cody is probably drinking a lot, and he's an angry,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: small little man, so of course he's gonna be intense
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: and crazy at home.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: He probably is abusive.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Well, let's be clear, Cody has already been abusive on
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: our teletime everybody else, So he's been emotionally and verbally abusive.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: We've seen it with our own eyes. You can't gaslight
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: me out of knowing that to be true, because I
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: saw it. I was there, So it's not that much
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of a stretch to imagine that he is at least
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: that he's actual home. The only thing that would keep
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: me from going all in on that is that he
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: does seem so strongly to prefer Robin and to really
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: prefer those kids and to like hanging out with them.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: But like when you look at Aurora and Brianna and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: how they were talking to him when they were sitting
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: out in the deck last week after they went to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: their fake church and all that jazz and Aurora's crying
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and Brianna is like meek, Like, on the one hand,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: maybe Robin is asking them to be that way, or
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: maybe they're just mimicking their mother's affect. But on the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: other hand, maybe like they're scared to actually speak up
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: or be demonstrative or be expressive in emoting because there's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: been problems in the past, I would be more likely
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: to believe that he's been If he's been abusive physically,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I would say I could see that maybe in Christine's house.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I don't see him doing that to Janelle. Maybe with Mary,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: both of them being that way. But when you get
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: into family annihilator, that is not the first time. I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: mean we've actually used that term, and I've also read
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: it on Reddit. I mean people on Reddit have actually
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: clocked that as well. Because if he lost everything, if
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Robin actually did ask for a divorce and take him
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: for all he is worth, after he has hung his
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: hat on her and the life that he has with her,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: what would he have left. He would not have TLC,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: he would not have He doesn't work right, He's got
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: his gun business, which he's been I think hamstrong. I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: don't think he can do the full business that he
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: used to do. What would he have? What would he
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: do in that scenario? I mean, I'm sure it would
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: never happen, but like if it did happen, how shocked
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: would I be?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: M not that shocked.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: But I hope it never course, I would hope that
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: never ever happens, because as much as we hate Robin.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: And oh.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Forever, but he's unstable.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: He is unstable. But I do hope Robin leaves him
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: me too.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I mean I would love that because it would be great,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: But I don't want him to go.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Of course, I do not want that, But like when
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you're looking at people who are showing you who they are,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: and you're looking at the entire spectrum of that, Like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: he's existing over here on the spectrum, but like how
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: much to get to that side of the spectrum, right,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and how much to like just be a little bit
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: more exaggerated in it? Like I that's that's all I'll
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: say about it. Yeah, Yeah, there's some fishy going on
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  Speaker 1: over there. What do y'all think?
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  Speaker 3: Let us know, let us know, or last one we
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  Speaker 3: have is from Jilly Jilly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Hi, I'm actually no possum, but I hang
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: out with raccoons and Philly in the dumpster. I wanted
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: to speak. I like Sister Wives. Been liking it from
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: day one. I don't find it boring. I like to
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: see how the family is evolved over the years, and
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: I think it's way more authentic than some of the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: other reality shows. I want to speak about Christine. She's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: very popular now, but when the show first came on,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: she irritated at me. I remember one time the Browns
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: were taking a family trip and Cody's friend had invited
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: them over, but he had made a joke about Cody
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: leaving three of his wives at home, and Christine got
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: so upset and made a stink. She was getting on
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: my nerves. And then there was a time when they
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: did a panel discussion. It was polygamous against anti polygamists
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: or something like that, and Christine's aunt or cousin was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: on the panel discussion, and she was against polygamy, and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: Christine was acting so extra like her family member was
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: going to attack her and she needed all her sister
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: wives to walk with her to protect her. Now, Christine
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: is the complete opposite, and she makes no mention about
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: how she carried on with that family member or even
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: if their friends or if they talk. Now, I find
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: that quite peculiar and I would like to get your
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: take on it. Happy New Year, all right, Well, this
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: is Gillie from Philly and I'm signing off opossums and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: raccoons you night.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I love me and opossum. I love me and opasa
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: so very helpful to the environment. I think they eat
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, a thousand ticks for an acre
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: or I don't know what the stats are, but they
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: are wonderful. They look very scary, but they're so sweet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Killy, I said, Jilly, I'm sorry.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: It's okay, no problems. So what did you think about
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: her commentary regarding Christine.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Christine's annoying as fuck. I think she's always
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: been annoying. I think she's too much. She's always been
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: too much for this family too, Like she needs somebody
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: like David who loves that craziness from her, and that's awesome,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: But she's so annoying. I mean, like you look at
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: her kids like Mikeltie and Peyton and Gwendolen and all
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: of them, they're like all annoying, except for Isabelle and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Aspen and maybe truly, but like, oh my god.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: There was one point in the recent episode, I think
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: when they were at the rehearsal dinner or whatever, like
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: you've got Christine yelling, you had Aspen yelling, you had Mchelte.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody's yelling. Like all these women are so loud. It
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: would really get my methophonia going, give me some anxiety
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I can't be with. First of all, I can't deal
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: with like multiple streams of sound, like I can't parse
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: those out, and so it's overwhelming to me, and I
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: really don't like a whole lot of yelling, even though
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit loud myself, but it was just like
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: it was crazy. It's crazy making. But Gilly touches on
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: something that we have addressed before and it really really
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: chops my hide, which is how in defense of polygamy,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Christine was like, out of all of them, she was
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: maybe the biggest cheerleader for the lifestyle, and she rammed
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: it down our throat. And again she went onto this
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: panel just like she's talking about, and she went up
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: against her aunt or whatever it was. And so at
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: least to dress it like this season, you're getting tattoos.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: This season, you're drinking drinks, doing shots.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: This season.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: You're such a different person. And I'm glad that you are.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're not in the Call to anymore.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're not fucking indoctrinated anymore. But talk
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: about it. And so when Gilly's saying that this is
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: an authentic show, I disagree. And the reason I disagree
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: is because you don't talk about the meteor subjects and
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: things that we really want to get into, Like you
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: started the show with a specific premise, you abandoned the premise,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: and you never addressed it other than Cody's suddenly hating
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: all of his wives right and not really digging into
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: it and all of the wives reeling because of it,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Like okay, but what about the faith? What about the religion?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: What about the story of all that?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Like when did you guys stop believing in all of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: this shit? Because now they're saying that they just you know,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: have different value systems, they have different fays like Mary
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: seems to be the only one that takes it seriously.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Janelle's like I don't care, Christine's like I don't answer
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: to the priests anymore, Like fuck all that? Like okay,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: why though we've said this before, like are you going to.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Talk about that process? Because that would be super interesting.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: I would much rather see that than your wedding special
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: over and over and over and over and over Againeah,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: it's like so annoying. Got a doubt and like seeing
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: you by your lip all the time.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: And Gilly, how is this show authentic? Like let's be
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: real here for a second, Like knowing that Cody melted
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: down Mary's ring and from this most recent episode, having
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Mary say that twenty years in so season one two
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: or three, Cody's telling her, I'm gonna make you suffer
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: for twenty years, and all Mary showed us, along with
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: the rest of those adults, was how fucking great polygamy
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: was until I don't know, COVID, like when the masks
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: started slipping and they couldn't get away with it anymore.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Like that, I mean, all of it was a lie.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: And I can understand, like they probably wanted to keep
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: it together and and sure there's some charm in showing
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: the kids and the life and how they're trying to
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: blend all these families, but it wasn't real.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: It was false.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: There was so much crap going on underneath that.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but we didn't know that until recently. We
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: all knew that well, I mean yeah, but we didn't
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: get the confirmation.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Therefore it wasn't authentic.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I guess I don't know.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, like for in Gilly's defense, I think there's
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: no other show like this on teals. Sure, and I
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: would love more shows like this. I would love to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: see more like Family Dynamics, even if some of it's fake.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I want to see it because I want to deduce
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: it like Plathfill.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: That's why we like plathfl. That's why we like the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: first four seasons of platforl The Plathfal is starting to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: get into this Sister Wives territory being so completely manufactured
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: that it's almost unwatchable, right, But those first few seasons, girl,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: we could see all the layers and we loved it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And maybe that's why she's like, I like this
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: show a lot, because she's been at it from the beginning,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: which I can see.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, I get it me too, so and it's totally valid,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: totally valid. Any thank you, Gilly. Yes, speaking of Plathfill,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: did you see that Ethan Plath got himself a new girlfriend? Yeah,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and she's gorgeous, gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. So that makes me
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: immediately wonder if I could just be a fly on
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: the wall girl, what Olivia might be thinking, Because of course,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: if there is another season and Welcome to Plathfill, then
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: they're going to probably be introducing us to this beautiful
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: blonde bombshell. Olivia's gonna have some competition in that regarding Meanwhile,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: she's with that Dirpe with the vagina chest, she got nothing,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, yeah, what if it doesn't work out
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and she's single Olivia and he's all gallivanting with his
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: trad wife blonde bombshell.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I need to see this from your lips.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: To God, I need to see it.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I want that so bad.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Did you see how Ethan was smiling in those.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Every single photo and he said that she's the most
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: kindest and sweetest girl he's ever been with, et cetera.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: Like he he made a whole paragraph. Of course, everybody's
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: given him hate because it's so trendy to be.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Like, fuck you eatan, your piece of shit.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Like people are saying that she looks exactly like Olivia.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: She does, she doesn't. She's prettier than she is.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I think she's objectively prettier.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Well, and then some people are saying that all the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Plaith boys like to date girls that look like their
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: sisters just because they like blonde girls.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's so weird. It's kind of weird, and like,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: can we stop Hayton? Can we just like be happy
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: for I'm happy for him.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: I am too if he's happy, and if he found
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: somebody that's not going to be contenteduously judging him and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: making him feel like a piece of shit, and he's
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: not doing that to his partners as well, if he's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: learned from his previous relationship and he's not going to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: be just a weirdo with this new person. I love it.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I love it, and I'd like to see more of it.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: And speaking in Platvill, I saw that Victoria Veronica, Veronica,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I always miss that up. I'm like, Veronica Hoodie is
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: going to be doing an AMA on Reddit. I think
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: it's going to be either today or tomorrow, and so
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I've got a lot of people. It's on the snark
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Uncensored sub, which they all stand for Olivia. They just
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: stand so hard and irrationally for Olivia. So they're asking
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: all these questions about her relationship with Olivia, and they're
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: being passive aggressive about it. But I am going to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: be checking in to see what her answers are. I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: think that's very very interesting. And also there is like
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: a rumor that Micah and Veronica have married because they
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: have a shared Instagram account with Micah and Veronica Plath.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: Well, we thought that they had that during the show.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: I had that during this last I forgot yeah boom.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Darius, Well maybe it did. Yeah, God, that would be
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: so ill advised, but I'm here for it.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: I'm here for You're happy. I'm happy.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: And also there's rumors that Mariah has been back with
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: that weird bald singer.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Guys, mister potato Head. Yeah, okay, yep.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: So that's just catching you up in a little bit
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: of plaith fill news. All right, Well, I think that's it.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else that we need to say to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: these beautiful records before we get up on out of here?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Be addressed?
• 1:12:36
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• 1:12:39
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• 1:12:41
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• 1:12:44
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• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: We are not going to be back this week with
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: an additional show because we handled the speak pipe messages
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: in this episode, but we will be back next week
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: to cover episode seventeen Honey with Christine's wedding on The
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Sister Live. We'll be back for that talk all about it.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Until then, please do not forget that we have nothing
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: but love for you, and please an bye ye