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- 0:06SPEAKER_01: What is going on, AJ?
- 0:07SPEAKER_01: What's up, buddy?
- 0:08SPEAKER_01: How you doing today, man?
- 0:09SPEAKER_01: I am living the dream, man.
- 0:11SPEAKER_01: Happy to be here on a Wednesday evening.
- 0:12SPEAKER_01: We're standing.
- 0:13SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 0:14SPEAKER_01: We're standing up.
- 0:16SPEAKER_01: Change again.
- 0:17SPEAKER_03: This is cool, dude.
- 0:17SPEAKER_03: I feel like I got so much more room for activities right now.
- 0:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll see how long this lasts.
- 0:21SPEAKER_03: You know, we got our I am old and it's been a long day, so this could go really quickly.
- 0:26SPEAKER_03: We might be like, I'm gonna be slouched in no time here.
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- 0:36SPEAKER_03: Um I rolled in here and I was just like, no chairs.
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- 2:01SPEAKER_01: Good injury news today for both BYU and Jazz.
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: Not a good injury day.
- 2:06SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
- 2:07SPEAKER_01: Not a good injury day.
- 2:08SPEAKER_01: Uh uh news for both BYU and Jazz fans.
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: LJ Martin is out for Notre Dame, which is not good.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: And Utah game versus and Nurk.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: Oh, so he's out for Notre Dame and for the Utah game.
- 2:22SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
- 2:22SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
- 2:23SPEAKER_03: Yeah, four to six weeks.
- 2:24SPEAKER_03: Oof, that's tough.
- 2:25SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: And Nurk is going to be out for one to two months, probably more.
- 2:29SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
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- 3:35SPEAKER_01: All right, AJ.
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: Let's go ahead and get into it, man.
- 3:37SPEAKER_01: Lots to talk about when it comes to the Utah Jazz.
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: We'll get right to uh McKinley's uh comment here about that here in a little bit.
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: But let's go ahead and hit the topics we wanted to talk about first here.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: Uh let's talk about surprises, AJ, for the preseason so far.
- 3:51SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: Uh so what I want to talk about first, which is something, AJ, that we thought was the biggest concern last year uh for the majority of the season before we realized they weren't trying to win games anyway.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: Uh but one of the big things that we would also became a concern this offseason once we realized we were not retaining Walker Kessler, which was rebounding.
- 4:10SPEAKER_01: If you don't have Walker Kessler, you don't have that traditional rim protection.
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: Now with Kessler out, because he is not only out last year, but also uh he is, you know, gonna be with the Lakers.
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: We need to figure out a way that we can make up the rebounding, right?
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 4:23SPEAKER_01: And so we had a very under good understanding, uh kind of a rough understanding about how that was gonna work for this team going forward, which is gonna be more of a like a team option.
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: Uh but I'll have to tell you, dude, the first two games, we're starting to see some good signs, right?
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: Uh so last year, AJ, the Jazz averaged 43.8 rebounds per game.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 4:41SPEAKER_01: The year before that, they averaged 45.4 rebounds per game.
- 4:44SPEAKER_01: That is with Walker Kessler in the lineup, according to StepMuse.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: Um, over the first two games of this season, AJ, the average is 54 rebounds per game.
- 4:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: So they had 52 in the first game, 56 in the second game.
- 4:59SPEAKER_01: At least I think I wrote 54 down twice.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm actually thinking that's 56.
- 5:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I actually had I had different.
- 5:06SPEAKER_03: I had 63 the first game and 43 the second game, which would actually average 52.
- 5:12SPEAKER_01: 63 the first game?
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:14SPEAKER_01: Guys, crash percent stats were wrong.
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, find it.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: I got it from StatMuse, so that could, you know, they typically are good, but I could be wrong there.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: Um, either way, AJ, either way, um, this is early on, but it's really is a good sign for this team that we are out rebounding not only last year's team, but the team before that when we had Walker Kessler, a traditional big uh rim protector in the lineup.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: In the first game, uh DP out rebounded uh Yusuf Nurkic at six to five, respectfully.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: Ace Bailey had five rebounds, Key uh threw in four.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: And uh guess who led the team with seven rebounds?
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: Mo Bamba.
- 5:49SPEAKER_03: Love it.
- 5:50SPEAKER_01: And uh Blake had six.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: Uh more to come on him in a minute.
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: Um, none of these guys played more than 21 minutes in the game, AJ.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: Um game two, Ace Bailey uh got more, got more minutes and threw in seven rebounds.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: Uh Mo got uh 10, hit double digits on that one, and the rest of the team chipped in as well.
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: Uh game two, we didn't have Lari, we didn't have uh Yusuf Nurkic, but they still managed to get 54 rebounds well ahead of their team average from both last year and the year before.
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: Um, again, without Kessler and Yusuf Nurkic in the lineups, all good signs that we're seeing rebounding from this team as a collective, as a team.
- 6:29SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean I think that's exactly it, too.
- 6:30SPEAKER_03: Like I think I think this is going to be a group rebounding effort all season, right?
- 6:36SPEAKER_03: And and we're going to need this same type of effort from realistically everybody, every single game.
- 6:42SPEAKER_03: Um I think that you know, kind of what we've seen so far, like nobody's got crazy high stats for for any of you know either one of these two preseason games, which is expected.
- 6:52SPEAKER_03: Obviously, we're not we don't we got anybody crazy playing crazy minutes or anything, but but they're getting it done, and they're getting it done as a unit, which is which is really important.
- 7:01SPEAKER_03: The guards are gonna have to continue to put pressure on the glass.
- 7:04SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, we're gonna have Laurie back there.
- 7:06SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, I have in my notes to have Nurk back there.
- 7:09SPEAKER_03: That was obviously written before today's news.
- 7:12SPEAKER_03: Um, but there there's we're we're gonna have to continue, you know, to to get the reap the benefits of these guards being good rebounding players.
- 7:20SPEAKER_03: And I just think as long as they can keep doing that, that this team's gonna figure out the rebounding situation and it might not be as glaring of an of an issue as we you know had originally thought coming into the preseason games.
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'd have to agree with you, man.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be pretty well balanced out.
- 7:34SPEAKER_01: Um, again, and there's some other uh key contributors uh outside of Yousuf Nurkic.
- 7:40SPEAKER_01: Again, he was out of the last game.
- 7:41SPEAKER_01: We still had much higher average.
- 7:43SPEAKER_01: And then on top of that, you add in some of these other key players that are jumping in and and carrying some of that load without Lari on the side on the team, especially in that second game.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Isaiah Collier had five rebounds on one of these games.
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: We're trying to loud.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: Like it's just this team is understanding the assignment of you know, this is gonna be a collective rebounding team.
- 8:00SPEAKER_01: And the funny thing is that Jared Jackson Jr.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: didn't have more than five rebounds in either one of those games.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, that's not really his thing.
- 8:07SPEAKER_01: Uh, so you know, we're gonna have to adjust to that, but you know, we'll see what's going on when we when we go forward from there.
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: Um, a few things also on that game that I thought was kind of interesting, game two, why we didn't see um Triple J at the five uh for that.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: I thought that would they missed an opportunity to start in there and then kind of run that death lineup is what they're calling it.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Death lineup.
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: I think it's kind of corny, but you tell me if there's a better name for it.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: Really corny, yeah.
- 8:28SPEAKER_01: It's well, because that's what Gordon State has.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: We just won't call it that.
- 8:31SPEAKER_01: I don't like it.
- 8:31SPEAKER_01: I don't like it.
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: Jump in the chat, guys.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: Jump let us know in the comments what we should be calling you know our five out, you know, lineup, you know, because I just not a fan of the death lineup, I think it's corny.
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah.
- 8:43SPEAKER_03: Is that a is that a David Locke thing?
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: No, it's it's he uses the term, but it was originally a Golden State Warrior thing.
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: When they were on Ingudala, yeah, yeah.
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: So it's one of those things.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: Five shooters on the floor.
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: Five shooters on the floor, exactly.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: Call it the death lineup.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: You know, Trevor Bauerhard is the death ball, which is like a curveball with a shorter break in it.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: So everybody's using the term death, not just Star Wars nerds.
- 9:04SPEAKER_03: You can't just throw death around all the time.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, play no attention to the Star Trek stuff in the background.
- 9:08SPEAKER_01: Star Wars nerds.
- 9:09SPEAKER_03: Nerds.
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um, but yeah, so again, guys, I think that's something we we could see in our either early on that I think is a good sign.
- 9:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I think it's definitely a good sign, dude.
- 9:18SPEAKER_03: We were the this jazz team is is these first two games have looked really interesting.
- 9:23SPEAKER_03: You know, like we we weren't sure what they were gonna look like when they went out there.
- 9:26SPEAKER_03: And you know, the the starting lineups, I think they're still kind of in flux, but this team has I think a lot more synergy than I really believed that they would have.
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:37SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 9:38SPEAKER_02: No, I agree, I agree.
- 9:39SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:40SPEAKER_03: You want to hit some of these comments?
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: No, you gotta go into yours thing.
- 9:44SPEAKER_03: Oh, oh yeah.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: We've been floundering on that topic for like two minutes.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: I was wondering when you're gonna jump into yours.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: It's like right in our screen, too.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it could be right there.
- 9:56SPEAKER_03: Um after game two, I just I was curious if if you guys had had seen this, and and it's all over social media, but um you know what a way to start a post uh a preseason for a guy that I think could could be a pretty valuable player on this team.
- 10:10SPEAKER_03: You know, he had a really good performance in game two.
- 10:12SPEAKER_03: Um I'm gonna go ahead and talk about Blake Henson right now.
- 10:15SPEAKER_03: Um he is a a good shooter, he's a solid defensive player, and I think the things that I love most about this guy was his post-game comments.
- 10:24SPEAKER_03: Let me know if you guys saw him, but um, he was he was asked, how could you assess the rotations and how you guys molded together?
- 10:33SPEAKER_03: And he responded, I can help however.
- 10:36SPEAKER_03: I can go get coffee, I can maybe make a shot, I can talk to somebody, I can watch your dog.
- 10:41SPEAKER_03: I just want to be part of the program.
- 10:43SPEAKER_03: I just absolutely love this, dude.
- 10:46SPEAKER_03: Uh I think I just think this is exactly what the jazz need is just someone that's 100% all in.
- 10:53SPEAKER_03: They don't care about what they're asked to do, they don't care asked you know when to be somewhere.
- 10:58SPEAKER_03: Uh, they just they just go out and they make this team a lot better day in, day out.
- 11:01SPEAKER_03: It's it's exactly what you look for in a player that's you know it's probably gonna be on the tail end of the bench, and you just you just gotta love his positivity.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I think you got uh I think uh your that interview is great, dude.
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: You're spawned with that.
- 11:15SPEAKER_01: I I can watch your talk.
- 11:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:16SPEAKER_01: Like just as long as I'm here.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: Just sign me to a contract.
- 11:20SPEAKER_01: Well, he's on a two-way contract.
- 11:22SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 11:22SPEAKER_01: As long as he's I think it's like semi-guaranteed, right?
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: So correct me for two.
- 11:26SPEAKER_03: Two-ways, I think guaranteed, yeah.
- 11:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: I think it's guaranteed, you're right.
- 11:30SPEAKER_01: Um, but you gotta love the humble answer answer for somebody who performed probably the best way that he's gonna expect to see uh right out the gates with 18 points, right?
- 11:38SPEAKER_01: Like he had a pretty good game.
- 11:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know.
- 11:40SPEAKER_01: Um Henson um also again, he's on a two-year, two-way contract with the team.
- 11:45SPEAKER_01: He's been known for uh great spacing uh in other avenues of basketball.
- 11:50SPEAKER_01: Um, hoping for that 14th spot AJ on the roster for the Jazz.
- 11:53SPEAKER_01: Game two was a little bit of a cool-off for him, but you know, for us and everybody here at Utah Jazz DNA, we are rooting for him for sure.
- 12:00SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 12:01SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 12:02SPEAKER_03: Everybody here at Utah Jazz DNA.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: Everybody here, including all 10 of you watching this live, deeply appreciate it, guys.
- 12:09SPEAKER_01: Thank you for joining us.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: Uh, let's hit some of these comments here.
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: I love this first one.
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: We'll definitely jump on that one here.
- 12:14SPEAKER_01: Uh, you always standing, or is this new, or am I going crazy?
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: Shane, I can make you I can make you feel better.
- 12:19SPEAKER_01: You're not going crazy.
- 12:20SPEAKER_01: Uh, you're just showing up about two minutes late to the show because we actually talked about that.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: This was uh yeah.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: This is new.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: This is new.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: This is AJ's wanting to try something new.
- 12:29SPEAKER_03: And I'm feeling like there's so much space up here.
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: Like he's feeling like emotion creates emotion.
- 12:33SPEAKER_01: Motion creates emotion, or however that was.
- 12:35SPEAKER_03: Whatever that is.
- 12:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I saw.
- 12:37SPEAKER_03: But yes, usually we are sitting.
- 12:39SPEAKER_01: You're you're yes, we're usually at bar stools or we're sitting in the chairs, or you know, so this is first time standing, so we're trying something out.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: Uh we'll see how long it lasts for us old guys.
- 12:47SPEAKER_03: So yeah, we might cut off you touch as DNA and be in seats when you come back.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll see.
- 12:51SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
- 12:52SPEAKER_01: Stay tuned.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: That's what we call a cliffhanger.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: Uh, we got a con we got a comment here uh from McKinley saying Nurk had a partially torn planter plate reevaluating uh and reevaluated in six weeks, but that's an injury that doesn't heal fast and could end his season.
- 13:08SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, dude.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: Went from uh deviated septum where he couldn't play to an actual real injury.
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: That's uh that's one thing for sure.
- 13:15SPEAKER_03: And that's a real injury because the Jazz need Nurk.
- 13:18SPEAKER_03: They planned on having Nurk on the on the field or on the field, on the court.
- 13:22SPEAKER_03: On the field, too.
- 13:22SPEAKER_03: On the court too, maybe.
- 13:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean wherever he's needed.
- 13:26SPEAKER_03: Wherever he's needed, he might get coffee.
- 13:28SPEAKER_03: You know, he might watch someone's dog now.
- 13:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, on the bright side, I thought uh a little bit and saw that Hayes uh and the small ball lineup uh with Triple J on at the five looked good.
- 13:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so again, uh that's something I want to talk about.
- 13:42SPEAKER_01: That's one thing that I noticed like after the first game.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: Uh Jackson Hayes was actually the only one with the uh had the lowest negative on the plus-minus for this team.
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: He actually is doing some contributing minutes there.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: He also had about four rebounds.
- 13:55SPEAKER_01: I can't remember the toll of his.
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: I didn't write down his stats.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: But look forward to him actually being a contributor on this team.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: I think the GIS see something in him that uh, you know, we probably didn't, um, that they have a plan for him.
- 14:07SPEAKER_01: And now definitely with you know, obviously with uh Nurk going down, we're definitely gonna need him for sure.
- 14:12SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think this is best case scenario for him, to be honest with you.
- 14:14SPEAKER_03: Like this is he he was hoping somebody gets hurt at some point this season, so we can get out there and get some minutes.
- 14:19SPEAKER_03: So, you know, hopefully he just takes advantage of it and just keeps buying into the system and doing what Will Hardy asks him, and you know, goes out there and helps his team win basketball games.
- 14:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, or we can try uh or we can trade for cat.
- 14:30SPEAKER_01: What are the other two?
- 14:31SPEAKER_03: You know, yeah, they're also doable.
- 14:33SPEAKER_03: Always an option.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll cover that on a future episode.
- 14:36SPEAKER_01: Uh I think that's actually a real opportunity.
- 14:38SPEAKER_01: Um, anyway, moving on.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: Uh we have uh McKinley saying maybe Flip could help out.
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: Uh he's a good rebounder.
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: He's a good rebounder, but he's just like not a great defender.
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: And I think that's funny because Triple J is a great defender, but not a good rebounder, so maybe that's a good counterbalance there.
- 14:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 14:54SPEAKER_03: I maybe that's where we're getting at.
- 14:56SPEAKER_03: I think it's kind of funny because he's he's like out of place when it comes to playing defense, but in place when it comes to rebounding, which yeah, it's it's really awkward.
- 15:04SPEAKER_03: Uh the problem is when you don't play good defense, there's no rebound to get.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: True.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: Very, very true.
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: Uh got another comment here from Karen for Darren.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: Uh life elevated lineup.
- 15:14SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 15:15SPEAKER_05: So much better.
- 15:15SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 15:16SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's a little long, but you know.
- 15:18SPEAKER_05: We'll call it the lel.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the lel, the lel.
- 15:22SPEAKER_05: The lel.
- 15:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it.
- 15:24SPEAKER_01: No, life elevated lineup's better than the lel.
- 15:26SPEAKER_01: We're good there.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
- 15:28SPEAKER_01: So we got here Blake Henson equals world's best paid intern.
- 15:33SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 15:34SPEAKER_01: For sure.
- 15:34SPEAKER_01: For sure.
- 15:35SPEAKER_03: I'm all in on that.
- 15:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we got channel legend, Greg Hawkins, you go Uts, Jazz, Mammoth, Cubs.
- 15:41SPEAKER_01: Sorry, AJ, about the Braves.
- 15:43SPEAKER_01: Appreciate it, buddy.
- 15:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll get it to that for sure.
- 15:45SPEAKER_01: Um, we have another comment here from Greg.
- 15:48SPEAKER_01: Don't push yourselves.
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a good point.
- 15:52SPEAKER_03: We're we're testing it out right now.
- 15:53SPEAKER_03: I didn't bring my stand and shoes, so we're gonna see how it goes.
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: That's the one with rubber soles, you know?
- 15:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and the good art support.
- 16:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah, do you got a standing mat in here?
- 16:02SPEAKER_03: No.
- 16:02SPEAKER_01: No, I don't have a standing mat.
- 16:03SPEAKER_01: I got a couple balance boards.
- 16:05SPEAKER_03: That might make it worse.
- 16:06SPEAKER_03: That might make it worse.
- 16:07SPEAKER_03: It'd be a little too wallowy there.
- 16:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:09SPEAKER_01: Uh got a comment here from Shane saying uh Mo Bamba looks any uh Mo Bomba looking any stronger this year.
- 16:15SPEAKER_01: Uh feels like he's always gets pushed around.
- 16:18SPEAKER_01: I I agree.
- 16:18SPEAKER_01: I haven't like I haven't done like a comparison, like compared what he looks like this year to what he looked like last year uh to see if there's anything there, there.
- 16:26SPEAKER_01: But uh I'm definitely gonna look that up and see if he looks any stronger.
- 16:30SPEAKER_01: Because honestly, you're exactly right.
- 16:31SPEAKER_01: Same problem that Wimby has, that he could easily get pushed around, but you know, and it's been Mobama's it's been Mobama's downfall his whole career, too.
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's just I don't know if that's something he's gonna try to prolong as well.
- 16:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is unfortunate.
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 16:48SPEAKER_01: Um McKinley's got another comment here.
- 16:49SPEAKER_01: One of the funky lineups I want to see is Laurie, Flip, Triple J, Ace, Darren, and Key.
- 16:54SPEAKER_03: Oh, Darren or Key.
- 16:56SPEAKER_03: I want I want to put all six on the floor.
- 16:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you gotta love me jumping through those short words there.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he doesn't let me like doesn't give me any room for flexibility there.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: If if I stumble on a word, he makes sure I'm all over it.
- 17:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: Probably deserve it.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: Probably deserve it.
- 17:12SPEAKER_01: But yeah, no, that's a good lineup, man.
- 17:13SPEAKER_01: What do you think about that?
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, I'd say, gosh, I heard something interesting on the radio today that uh on ESPN 700 Spence Checkets thinks that uh when the Utah Jazz is competing for a championship, um, Keonta George is the backup point of guard on this team, not the starting guard.
- 17:30SPEAKER_03: I think we'll know in the next 10 games.
- 17:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: I think if you're gonna have not everybody has to be a top 10 player on the court to win a title.
- 17:39SPEAKER_01: That's so exactly.
- 17:40SPEAKER_01: If you're telling me that Darren Peterson's gonna be number one, right, and then our number two guy is somebody who's not on the team, and yet we have Ace Bailey, maybe it is Ace Bailey, and then Laurie Mark and just like your three, then you don't necessarily, you know, you know, Keontae George could be a Derek Fisher, could be a ugly that just sounded dirty coming out of my mouth.
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: But he could be that like point guard that's not like the elite player, doesn't have to be a Steve Nash, you know.
- 18:03SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if I totally agree with that statement, but I think it's uh um you know it's also it's interesting that some people aren't as high on Keontae George as we are.
- 18:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 18:12SPEAKER_01: So maybe they haven't watched him.
- 18:14SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm pretty sure he's gonna be a lot of things.
- 18:15SPEAKER_01: It's the only thing I can think.
- 18:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he actually has press credentials and goes to a lot of games, and you know, his dad helped keep keep the team here.
- 18:22SPEAKER_03: So maybe he hasn't watched him.
- 18:25SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um, but yeah, so uh appreciate it, guys.
- 18:28SPEAKER_01: Thanks for jumping in the chat there and letting us uh interact with you there.
- 18:31SPEAKER_01: It's always fun.
- 18:32SPEAKER_01: Uh let's go ahead and jump into our next subject we want to talk about, man, which is let's talk about Darren Peterson a little bit.
- 18:37SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
- 18:38SPEAKER_03: And I think I think that um you know, we kind of want to discuss what what DP did over these first couple of games.
- 18:43SPEAKER_03: You know, we're two preseason games in now.
- 18:45SPEAKER_03: And and I think that what DP when he was out there for that pre-season, that first preseason game, I think that it was it was uh a welcome to the NBA moment for him in those first moments because I think that the speed and aggressiveness that the Nuggets were kind of getting after him with, um I think it was kind of getting to him.
- 19:05SPEAKER_03: Um the the Nuggets were playing him pretty tight.
- 19:08SPEAKER_03: Uh they were they were really minimizing his movement, you know, his ability to just kind of run around the floor.
- 19:13SPEAKER_03: And and I think he played I think he played good.
- 19:16SPEAKER_03: Uh and you know he got to his spots a couple of times, but but there was definitely some moments where he looked like he was a little bit out of place in that first game.
- 19:23SPEAKER_03: Um luckily that that second game you could tell he felt much more comfortable.
- 19:29SPEAKER_03: Um obviously he he went off and you know scored some point and he had about 25 or something.
- 19:33SPEAKER_03: I actually didn't put it in front of me, but um had 25 points in that roughly 25 points in that second game and and really was just playing in rhythm.
- 19:43SPEAKER_03: Um he found his spots, he he he did everything he could to get to his spots and get shots that he was comfortable taking.
- 19:49SPEAKER_03: Um I I loved the early alley from Keontae George, you know, third or fourth run down the court.
- 19:55SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, I don't know.
- 19:57SPEAKER_03: I just I love I love that he's gotten no hesitation in his game, dude.
- 20:00SPEAKER_03: Like when he gets the ball, if he's decided his scoring, you know, he's gonna dribble in, he's gonna make you get you know your feet switched around, he's gonna take it, get his shot where he wants to put it up on the floor.
- 20:10SPEAKER_03: It's just he's he's a really fun player to watch so far, two seasons into the game or two games into the season.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: No, I have to agree with you, man.
- 20:18SPEAKER_01: Early impressions of Darren Peterson, the first game is actually very similar to how Ace Bailey's first game in preseason was.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: Just the summer league just doesn't get you ready for what's gonna happen in uh real NBA, you know, speed and reps.
- 20:31SPEAKER_01: And even the preseason is even gonna be a little slower because your best players are only running, what, 20 minutes a game?
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: In the preseason, because you're just trying to keep everybody fresh, right?
- 20:39SPEAKER_01: So I mean in the second game, we're you know, we're looking at 23 points, by the way, uh in 30 minutes.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: Uh he had a negative 11 on the plus-minus, uh, probably due to his five fouls that he had.
- 20:50SPEAKER_01: Uh, he was one for six from three, so you'd like to see something better there.
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think this kid's gonna be fine, man.
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I like the points, I like the rebounds, absolutely.
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: I think that's huge uh when it comes to that.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: And then again, when it comes to uh being able to adapt to the NBA game, I think he's gonna adapt much quickly or uh probably sooner, faster than any other player in his draft, which was a loaded, loaded draft.
- 21:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, and it and it really was.
- 21:18SPEAKER_03: And and there was there was really good players all the way through.
- 21:22SPEAKER_03: And for us to, you know, kind of or for the jazz to analyze his talent and say that this is the guy that we absolutely got to take at number two.
- 21:28SPEAKER_03: It says a lot about the potential of the player that he could become.
- 21:32SPEAKER_03: So it it is uh he's just such an exciting player, and you you just hope that he kind of finds his place and where he fits.
- 21:39SPEAKER_03: And um it could be a really fun season to be a jazz fan, man.
- 21:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I think so.
- 21:44SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be fun, man.
- 21:45SPEAKER_01: I I I like where the jazz are sitting at right now.
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: Yes, it sucks that we lost Nurkic.
- 21:50SPEAKER_03: Did you see this?
- 21:51SPEAKER_03: Did you see that the jazz over underwind total has steadily climbed over the last uh two, three weeks?
- 21:57SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 21:58SPEAKER_03: It is currently at Depending on which one you roughly 37 to 38 and a half wins.
- 22:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've seen 38, uh, which was the current uh line on Calci.
- 22:08SPEAKER_01: Um there are a few folks that reached out to me and said they're gonna place bet.
- 22:12SPEAKER_01: We actually had somebody on our live stream saying, hey, just put in what is it, 50 bucks that the jazz are gonna be over on the month total.
- 22:18SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, the line's already creeping up, dude.
- 22:20SPEAKER_01: It already looks good.
- 22:21SPEAKER_01: Even with the announcement of this injury that came out earlier today, the line still is sitting right where it is.
- 22:26SPEAKER_01: So again, while this sucks, this does open up a lot of opportunities for Flip.
- 22:30SPEAKER_01: It does also open up a lot of opportunities for uh Jackson Hayes.
- 22:33SPEAKER_01: We have a bunch of different um opportunities that this will cause for the Jazz and also opportunities for the front office, front office to actually try and improve this team at the deadlines, uh stripping it down.
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: So that'll be interesting.
- 22:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it'll it'll it could be a really fun season because I don't I don't mind if they make midseason moves, you know, if they if they see something that we need or they find somebody that they think could be a better fit in the system.
- 22:55SPEAKER_03: Never gonna disagree with that, but um I just hope they give it time to mature and gel and or not gel, you know, don't don't prematurely make anything up that's not actually happening.
- 23:06SPEAKER_03: Like these guys, these guys do have to be out on the floor together and spend some time together, you know.
- 23:09SPEAKER_03: Hopefully they don't move a guy like Blake Henson because he's super funny, um, you know, before he gets a chance to play at least.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I wouldn't bump him just to have another 14th, just have somebody else on that roster spot that is gonna sit at the end of the bench.
- 23:22unknown: Yeah.
- 23:22SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 23:22SPEAKER_01: Like who else would you rather have there?
- 23:24SPEAKER_01: I mean, I there's a bunch of players that are on invite for the preseason that aren't gonna make the roster.
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: Maybe Blake is one of them.
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but you know, we'll see what happens there for sure.
- 23:32SPEAKER_01: We got a comment here from um Mammoth Undertaking amid the push around the team low 18 plus amid being pushed around and a team being uh and uh having a team low minus 18 plus minus on the minus side, Mo Bamba got 10 pounds, 10 rebounds but no blocks.
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: Man, that took a while for me to get through.
- 23:54SPEAKER_01: AJ, you want to read that through one more time for.
- 23:56SPEAKER_03: So amid being pushed around and a team low minus 18 on the plus minus, Mo Bamba got 10 rebounds but no blocks.
- 24:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so somebody that size, a good point there, uh Mammoth Undertaking, that a guy that size should be getting a block or two a game easily, just simply because he's getting pushed out of position to where, you know, they're just going right at him and he's not blocking anything.
- 24:15SPEAKER_03: And there's just not much he can do.
- 24:17SPEAKER_03: He's just not a great defensive player.
- 24:19SPEAKER_03: He did okay rebounding, but again, if you're a good defensive player, right?
- 24:24SPEAKER_03: There's more rebounds to have.
- 24:25SPEAKER_03: So if you can do both of those things really well, it makes it a lot easier.
- 24:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, love the name of the thumbnail, by the way.
- 24:30SPEAKER_01: Uh, and the avatar picture on there.
- 24:31SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
- 24:33SPEAKER_01: Let's go ahead and hit another comment here from Greg Hawkins.
- 24:36SPEAKER_01: Um, um, so the Jazz are finally supposed to be good this year.
- 24:40SPEAKER_01: I haven't been paying attention.
- 24:42SPEAKER_01: Well said, dude.
- 24:43SPEAKER_01: Well said.
- 24:44SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I mean, I mean we are going to see a team that is not actively trying to lose and is going to push to make a playoff run.
- 24:52SPEAKER_01: I think their their ceiling is still going to be, I think it's still going to be six or seven seed.
- 24:57SPEAKER_01: And I think their floor is a playing game.
- 24:59SPEAKER_01: I don't think this team, the worst case is Portland last year.
- 25:03SPEAKER_01: The best case is again the sixth seed.
- 25:05SPEAKER_01: So I don't see um, you know, too many teams that were ahead of them last year that aren't that aren't going to be, sorry, teams that were behind them last year that aren't going to be behind them again this year.
- 25:14SPEAKER_01: Um, and I also would say there's a few ahead that won't be ahead.
- 25:17SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, we want to hear from you folks, let us know what your thoughts are.
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: Are the jazz gonna do better than the 38?
- 25:23SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, AJ's prediction is 50 wins.
- 25:26SPEAKER_01: Um, so you know, we as a channel 50 wins.
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: We as a channel have to back that.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: Mine was around 45, but sorry, Darren.
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- 29:01SPEAKER_01: So, what I want to talk about before we jump into well, we had a bye week last week, AJ.
- 29:05SPEAKER_01: So there's no good, no game for us to review, right, and recap.
- 29:10SPEAKER_01: Uh, so what I thought would be fun this week is to actually kind of just speak about a little bit of stories that we saw in the bye week.
- 29:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 29:17SPEAKER_01: So for me, I want to go ahead and start off with uh, you know, something kind of connected to the Utes, and that's uh Kyle Whittingham.
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: Uh not off to a great start in his career at the Big Ten.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: Um to a shaky start for sure, already has two losses, back-to-back losses, both to Iowa and Minnesota.
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: Uber Meyer is calling it a train wreck, going on to say that he doesn't see a fast solution.
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: Um, so some of that blame uh from the media and from the fans seem to be falling on which shoulders, uh, saying that him and his staff lock proper scheming uh around Underwood to really develop and master his talents.
- 29:52SPEAKER_01: Um he's uh regressed uh to the point where fans are you know already are done with him as far as their star quarterback, right?
- 29:59SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 30:00SPEAKER_01: Um his NIL agreement uh seems to be a bit of an overpay at this point.
- 30:04SPEAKER_01: Uh the question is, AJ, that's stirring around, is Wit over his head in Ann Ever?
- 30:10SPEAKER_03: This this is an interesting question because I funny enough, like a lot of people that I talk to you know about sports period have asked me, I've I've been asked this question probably four or five times over the last two weeks.
- 30:21SPEAKER_03: Um I think that the expectations for Wit to come into a program that lost a ton of players, it gained some good players, like some of the battery players from Utah, right?
- 30:32SPEAKER_03: And then they added a few, a couple pieces from the transfer portal.
- 30:35SPEAKER_03: Um but then his expectation is to instill his culture into a blue but a blue blood program.
- 30:42SPEAKER_03: Um those those expectations are pretty high.
- 30:45SPEAKER_03: And and I think we I think Wit knew that going in.
- 30:48SPEAKER_03: Um I loved the fit for Wit with this program because on paper, Michigan has traditionally run very much like the University of Utah, right?
- 30:58SPEAKER_03: They're they're run first, they're defense heavy, um, but they just have uh more talented players than Utah's had in the past.
- 31:07SPEAKER_03: Um and I honestly think that some of the issue that Michigan is having is actually with Jason Beck.
- 31:13SPEAKER_03: Um, I think that the offense that he runs is is uh it runs some really difficult blocking schemes um that the Utes didn't have wish issues with last year because we had two guys that went to the NFL.
- 31:26SPEAKER_03: We had senior offensive linemen that were athletic, that could move really well, you know, set up some of these uh these difficult schemes that uh uh you have big 10 linemen trying to run now that are big corn fed boys that want to push the guy in front of them back 10 feet and that's all they want to do.
- 31:46SPEAKER_03: Um and I and I think that's really I think that's really tough.
- 31:50SPEAKER_03: Um culture itself is not built overnight, culture isn't built in one off season.
- 31:56SPEAKER_03: Um and and what he had at Utah was being a constant underdog that was always kind of on the fringe of greatness.
- 32:04SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 32:04SPEAKER_03: Like, and that's that's advantage wit, right?
- 32:07SPEAKER_03: Because everyone was like, Utah's not as good as they think they are, and if we won 10 games, the season was a success.
- 32:14SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 32:15SPEAKER_03: Now you're at Michigan where the the buy-in having to be immediate is because uh when players come to Michigan, they come here to win and to compete for a national championship.
- 32:28SPEAKER_03: And he's just never been in that situation.
- 32:32SPEAKER_03: He's never been in a situation where uh you were expected to compete for a national championship because you are Michigan.
- 32:40SPEAKER_03: Um Utah was never there.
- 32:42SPEAKER_03: So um I think he's got a ton of work to do with a really talented program that may be uh it may be kind of coming apart of the seams, and the offense isn't producing, the defense can't win anything.
- 32:55SPEAKER_03: Or sorry, the defense can't win everything, right?
- 32:57SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 32:58SPEAKER_03: And and we've heard this story before.
- 33:00SPEAKER_03: Right?
- 33:00SPEAKER_03: The the season before Jason Beck came to Utah, that was the whole story was we've got a fantastic defense, but our offense can't produce.
- 33:08SPEAKER_03: We had the you know, we had Cam rising who was in and out and missing and wasn't doing what we needed, and we had backup quarterbacks that were supposed to be in and the potential future of the program and backups to the backups to the backups.
- 33:21SPEAKER_03: And and and we were just in a situation, right?
- 33:24SPEAKER_03: And now he's got this quarterback that he's paying nine million dollars to that is supposed to be the better version of the quarterback that he had last year that can't produce because he doesn't throw it the same way and can't run because the offensive line can't block, and the defense isn't as good because they've only got a couple really good players, and both those players came with Coach Witt from Utah, and it's just a hot mess, dude.
- 33:46SPEAKER_03: And and I don't know if he's in over his head to answer your question, but I think the expectation for Michigan to just continue to be the same Michigan program that we saw three or four years ago under Coach Harbaugh is setting the bar a little bit high.
- 34:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, to me, I think this is to be expected, man.
- 34:03SPEAKER_01: A lot of these players were inherited and not necessarily something that he could have a lot of say on in a in a blue blood program, like you mentioned in Michigan, you're gonna get a lot more pressure from the boosters and the people who are part of the fund to decide, okay, we're paying this guy, you better play him, kind of, or we're gonna remove our endowment kind of thing, you know.
- 34:21SPEAKER_01: So yeah, there's a lot of that that's gonna be going on over there at a Big Ten school that's not gonna be the same in the Big 12 school, at least not here at Utah.
- 34:28SPEAKER_01: And I don't think he's totally adapted to that yet, and maybe he will.
- 34:32SPEAKER_01: But what I think is this is actually Coach Witt's problem to solve.
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: And and in all honesty, is it's it's not all on him, but it's on him to fix it.
- 34:42SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 34:42SPEAKER_01: Either A, he needs to reel 100%, he either needs to figure out a way to properly develop, and you know, and then you know, like you mentioned, Jason, um, Jason Beck needs to like I think what we've seen here is that okay, well, what was it?
- 34:56SPEAKER_01: You know, it was you know, was just like we talk about in basketball, was John Stockton so great because of Carmelone or was Carmelone so great because of John Stockton?
- 35:04SPEAKER_01: In this case, you can definitely see Devin Demp here was definitely getting a lot less credit than he deserves over the fact that it was Jason Beck's offense that was tailored around him.
- 35:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, his talent didn't get enough respect out of that conversation.
- 35:15SPEAKER_01: Totally agree.
- 35:16SPEAKER_01: So in that case, like I said, it's totally up to Wit to fix this problem.
- 35:20SPEAKER_01: And I don't know where the solution is gonna come.
- 35:22SPEAKER_01: Maybe running a platoon between him and Tommy Carr, which the fans seem to have a better uh better report with.
- 35:27SPEAKER_01: But you basically just gotta have the Stones to say, look, I don't care that they gave you a$12.3 million over four year agreement.
- 35:34SPEAKER_01: We're paying you four million dollars a year.
- 35:35SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
- 35:36SPEAKER_01: You're gonna get paid four million dollars a year to sit on the bench.
- 35:38SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that's not our problem.
- 35:40SPEAKER_01: You need to, you know, you need to put the best players on the field to help you win a football game.
- 35:46SPEAKER_01: And like I said, it's up to him to fix it.
- 35:48SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
- 35:49SPEAKER_03: It really is, too.
- 35:50SPEAKER_03: I mean, it it's up to Coach Witt.
- 35:52SPEAKER_03: I I do fear for his job a little bit because again, Michigan boosters are going to be ruthless.
- 35:57SPEAKER_03: The expectation was you come here and you're competing for a Big Ten title and a national championship.
- 36:03SPEAKER_03: I don't know if they're going to accept a losing season, uh a 500 season, probably not.
- 36:10SPEAKER_03: Do you think he's gonna have a losing season?
- 36:12SPEAKER_03: Dude, he's got a really tough road ahead of him.
- 36:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, doesn't look great.
- 36:15SPEAKER_03: Really tough road, and he's lost some games that he really should have won.
- 36:18SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then he's actually won some games he should have lost.
- 36:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 36:22SPEAKER_03: So very true.
- 36:24SPEAKER_03: You add up all of those things, and and he's he's in real this this Michigan hasn't looked dominant yet.
- 36:30SPEAKER_01: No, but I don't I don't think anybody expecting that first year from Coach Witt was really kind of being honest with themselves, you know.
- 36:36SPEAKER_01: And again, we I I mean absolutely for me, I totally think that Coach Witt was the right fit for this program as long as he was here, maybe a year or two uh too long in the tooth for the youths.
- 36:46SPEAKER_01: But um, in my opinion, he was the right guy in this role.
- 36:50SPEAKER_01: We don't know if that translates so easily from the from the Pac-12 to the Big 12.
- 36:56SPEAKER_01: That was a big jump, right?
- 36:58SPEAKER_01: Into that.
- 36:58SPEAKER_01: He only had two years of it where he wasn't, you know, having to play shuffle the quarterback, right?
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: So, like, you know, he had a decent year last year, and then all of a sudden you shift him off to a Big Ten program, one of the two big boy conferences, yeah, and expecting him just to be, you know, slot right in and have the same like 10 and 2 type schedule.
- 37:14SPEAKER_01: I think anybody who's expecting that, you know, yeah, he has a lot of talent, but you know, honestly, it's just it's just not gonna happen.
- 37:20SPEAKER_01: I don't know who thought it was.
- 37:22SPEAKER_01: It really blows my mind if anybody had that kind of expectation.
- 37:25SPEAKER_01: Ask Alabama fans what it was like when they got uh what's his name from Washington?
- 37:30SPEAKER_03: Calen De Boer.
- 37:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, ask them how happy they were with, you know, but they were patient with him for the first year.
- 37:35SPEAKER_03: They were, they were, but but de Boer is also, I mean, he lost a couple of games they should have uh they should have won, and it kind of took them out of you know, national championship contention, but they were in and they were in the SEC contention most of the season.
- 37:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that's just because it's it's Alabama, you know, it's a little different.
- 37:51SPEAKER_01: But what my point is is that like even Alabama and their expectations, their fan base, which I have a lot of them that are friends of mine, uh uh my headquarters for my company is down there, so real tight folks.
- 38:03SPEAKER_01: Um but when it comes to that when it comes to that, like they understood that it's gonna take some time, right?
- 38:08SPEAKER_01: So anybody who's expecting this to be a a rinse and repeat, it just I don't know where your thought process was on there.
- 38:14SPEAKER_01: Uh, we got a lot of comments going back and forth.
- 38:16SPEAKER_01: Greg, was that just going back being forth between you and uh McKinley, or do you actually want us to read these?
- 38:22SPEAKER_01: That's look at that.
- 38:23SPEAKER_01: That's great.
- 38:23SPEAKER_01: There's a lot.
- 38:24SPEAKER_01: There's a lot.
- 38:25SPEAKER_01: There's a lot.
- 38:25SPEAKER_01: Do you want to hit them up?
- 38:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah, go for it.
- 38:27SPEAKER_03: Let's let's hit it real quick.
- 38:29SPEAKER_01: Started with the first one, Greg Hawkins.
- 38:30SPEAKER_01: Whittingham uh ran a progressively worse culture as he got fat and happy in Utah by the time Michigan was calling came calling.
- 38:38SPEAKER_01: He was full of ego and pride, but should have been fired after the 2024, 2024 debacle.
- 38:46SPEAKER_01: I agree, but less bluntly.
- 38:50SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense?
- 38:51SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 38:52SPEAKER_01: Like, I think he was definitely high on his own ego.
- 38:54SPEAKER_01: When he had his assistant coaches getting him a Diet Coke for his post-press interview, you know, that's that that kind of single, like, okay, we're a little too high on our own horse here.
- 39:01SPEAKER_03: I I think that I think that Coach Witt was really happy with the program that he built, and it was just in cruise.
- 39:08SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 39:08SPEAKER_03: He didn't he didn't have to come and do a whole lot.
- 39:11SPEAKER_03: You got to remember Coach Wilt hasn't Coach Witt hasn't built a program in over 20 years.
- 39:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 39:17SPEAKER_03: He he's got these he had these really good coordinators, and yeah, the offensive coordinator was kind of kind of a rotating door right.
- 39:24SPEAKER_03: We'd get one for a couple of years, they'd come in, go out, off at Utah's offense.
- 39:28SPEAKER_03: But but I also think that Coach Witt was some of the problem with the offensive coordinator because he put the handcuffs on him and says, no, we're gonna run the ball on first down, we're gonna run the ball on second down, we're gonna throw the ball on third down, and then we're gonna punt it.
- 39:39SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 39:40SPEAKER_03: That's what we're going to do.
- 39:41SPEAKER_03: And if we convert on any of those plays, then we're gonna rinse and repeat.
- 39:45SPEAKER_03: We're going to run the ball.
- 39:46SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 39:46SPEAKER_03: And and over and over and over.
- 39:47SPEAKER_03: And I think that's just traditional whip football, right?
- 39:50SPEAKER_03: If we can score 14 points and our and our defense is good enough that we can hold them to seven, we're gonna be just fine in every single game.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 39:57SPEAKER_03: So he was just trying to score enough enough points to do to back up his defense, and his defense was gonna ride him through, which is Michigan football, right?
- 40:05SPEAKER_03: That the Big Ten's been forever known as as a as a conference that is tough-nosed, like, or sorry, hard-nosed, like gritty football that runs the ball and beats each other up in the trenches, and that's exactly what Coach Witt is.
- 40:22SPEAKER_03: I the the 2024 debacle was was interesting because Utah should have won some of those games, and without Cam rising, it was really tough.
- 40:33SPEAKER_01: Well, I think with the real reality of it was that the first time that's the first time where Witt was challenged with modern day football.
- 40:38SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: Coach football, and he did not respond well.
- 40:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and and I'm not sure he was set up to respond, or ever will be set up to respond.
- 40:45SPEAKER_01: No, and I think that's why everybody thought he should retire when he announced like, oh, coach and waiting, Morgan Scaly, okay, after you had a chance to win games in Big 12, okay, right on your sun, right out on sunset, right?
- 40:55SPEAKER_01: On your Harley, whatever.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: Um, but like, yeah, dude, I just I this is perfect right here.
- 41:00SPEAKER_01: I like this comment from McKinley Cutler saying it's starting to become really clear why Witt was trying to recruit Bird and Dampier on his way out.
- 41:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, knowing that he had a quarterback there that already had a ridiculous NIL deal, you know, he still tried to recruit the other two quarterbacks, you know.
- 41:17SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
- 41:18SPEAKER_01: I think it's interesting.
- 41:19SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see here.
- 41:20SPEAKER_01: He's never been turned, he's never turned the program around or rebuilt a program.
- 41:23SPEAKER_01: He's inherited a program from Coach Mack and Urban Meyer that was humming and coasted uh on that for 20 years.
- 41:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a great point.
- 41:33SPEAKER_01: That is it, that is true.
- 41:34SPEAKER_01: Like, I think there's some truth to that.
- 41:35SPEAKER_01: Like, but he did have to install, like, that that's continue that culture, right?
- 41:40SPEAKER_01: It could easily be.
- 41:41SPEAKER_03: And and I still think Coach Witt put his fingerprint on it, right?
- 41:44SPEAKER_03: He still said this is this is who we're gonna be, all in or in the way.
- 41:47SPEAKER_03: He did all these things that were were so Coach Witt-esque.
- 41:51SPEAKER_03: And I don't, I mean, I have trouble talking bad about him because I I'm just this lifelong Utah football fan.
- 41:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but but I think it was time for him to go.
- 42:00SPEAKER_03: I mean, I I I really sincerely with all of me believe that it was time for us to make a change of coaching.
- 42:05SPEAKER_03: Um, I think Coach Scally is much better, a much better fit for the modern NIL deals and the player evolutions and and the things the the the direction this league's going, Coach Scalley's the right for this.
- 42:18SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 42:19SPEAKER_01: Uh by the end, he was putting in Charlie Brewer on the field over Cam Rising and losing to BYU three years in a row, uh, three times in a row.
- 42:27SPEAKER_01: Uh, yeah, uh that's you know, again, a fair point.
- 42:30SPEAKER_01: And that's when we kind of were questioning that pendulum swinging back towards BYU because it seems to go back and forth every couple decades, right?
- 42:37SPEAKER_01: Where someone has a just a string of dominance, BYU's lost, sorry, BYU's beat Utah three years in a row.
- 42:43SPEAKER_01: You know, I think this year it really kind of is going to be the teletape on that one.
- 42:47SPEAKER_01: You know, we really, as far as the Utah football program's concerned, we're gonna need to swing that back towards a Utah win in order to keep that at bay and this more being a folly time frame.
- 42:56SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's it's interesting for sure.
- 42:58SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 42:58SPEAKER_01: Uh sorry to say, uh, looking like BYU might not be able to hold on to their upside.
- 43:03SPEAKER_01: Um what what does that say?
- 43:06SPEAKER_03: On hold up to their side of the deal to the game day to the holy war.
- 43:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 43:10SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about that the other day.
- 43:12SPEAKER_03: Um they've just got to keep winning, and their their season's not over without LJ Martin, but it sure does put a whole lot more on Bear Bachmeyer.
- 43:20SPEAKER_03: And then you then your next concern is is if Bear's gonna take 20% more of these rushes, right?
- 43:26SPEAKER_03: Like they got some good guys, they got some good running backs in that room, but if Bear Bachmeyer has to touch the ball more for you guys to be successful, you just risk hurting him more.
- 43:35SPEAKER_03: You know, we talk about it with the Utah quarterbacks with Dampier and Bert Ficklin out there at the same time.
- 43:39SPEAKER_03: Like, do you really want to risk putting your sit your quarterback in that situation over and over and over?
- 43:46SPEAKER_03: There's a real fine line there of winning football games and trying to save the season, or or do you try to keep pushing forward this, you know, pushing it forward as long as you can't achieve it?
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: get LJ Martin back.
- 44:01SPEAKER_01: So yeah, and you know, it's it's unfortunate.
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: I I I don't we want that we wanted that, right?
- 44:07SPEAKER_01: We wanted BYU.
- 44:08SPEAKER_01: I mean I I don't I'm okay with I'm okay with BYU losing.
- 44:12SPEAKER_01: We uh we thought BYU was gonna lose to Notre Dame.
- 44:15SPEAKER_03: I originally I don't think they have a chance against Notre Dame without LJ Martin.
- 44:19SPEAKER_01: So we were thinking they're gonna lose to um to Notre Dame and they were kind of come to Utah with a one game loss and Utah's gonna be undefeated.
- 44:29SPEAKER_03: And then we hand them their second loss.
- 44:32SPEAKER_01: It's like don't do it like that.
- 44:34SPEAKER_03: You hand it to them.
- 44:35SPEAKER_01: I I I like it.
- 44:36SPEAKER_01: I like it.
- 44:37SPEAKER_01: And of course then BYU would have a whole year BYU fans would have a whole year of like oh yeah we didn't have our best player on the field you know so that's oh damn that's true.
- 44:45SPEAKER_01: You know I don't know if we really want that because trust me when you have a team that dominates year in and year out they'll give you an EBS excuse for why you know it's true it's not fair.
- 44:54SPEAKER_01: It's true.
- 44:54SPEAKER_03: Right I mean I'm still upset about that last pass interference call.
- 44:59SPEAKER_01: So I like this comment I like this comment from Greg he says Michigan should have hired Bronco Mendenhall at least he knows how to stabilize a program and turn it into a decent team yeah faith pride and uh what was the third one you want to put on the back of all the BYU jerseys when he was here excellence I don't I'm not sure yeah that guy man I swear I was watching I was actually close enough to where I could actually see him on the other side of the field I was kind enough to have generous tickets donated to me by super awesome good looking dude um you know great father you know salt of the earth type guy um was sounds legendary he is dude he is great um you know like it if he carried a podcast a little bit more that's wow that's wow no but uh yeah to you know what take me home we it's not that kind of night right we still have we still have oh yeah that's true it's not that kind of night yet there's been some there has been one yeah yeah what was that called the Damian Lillard trade the Damian Lillard trade that night was gonna that night's gonna go down an infamy guy you guys want to watch some funny videos go back to that one on DNA sports recap yeah that was questionable I don't think we actually ever finished it I think we had to take I think we posted some of it though I don't know only kind of kidding yeah me too me too man I kind of know what you were going to on that one here uh unfortunately the roster is falling apart we got four of our top five players oh man okay uh half of the O-line and two of the linebackers are out for at least two weeks for injury dang man dang um yeah you guys are down like to your like your four string running back at this point um maybe Kalani Sataki maybe Kalani was wrong about uh wanting more money for the wasn't wrong yeah uh wasn't wrong I yeah what like dude we could do a whole podcast on that man I really think we need to dive in deep on this one because I've we've talked about it a little bit on this show and I've listened to a lot of the radio but man some of that stuff is good.
- 46:50SPEAKER_01: The AD was not Kalani was not his guy and so when the new AD came in they're just like he's trying to sabotage him won't give him the money he was promised when he agreed to this contract.
- 47:00SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 47:00SPEAKER_03: You know so it's just like this whole big thing and this is the contract he agreed to after he was offered the Penn State job.
- 47:06SPEAKER_01: Yes he the contract was signed he was given he was told that he was going to get a certain amount of money and BYU is holding back that money now because the ADE doesn't like him doesn't want to be his guy.
- 47:16SPEAKER_01: They probably don't have it.
- 47:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah BYU definitely doesn't have the money definitely does not have the money sorry just don't have it you know call it the cookie guy yeah we don't have it dude sorry don't know what's Ryan Smith he's like sorry bro I don't got that yeah well he's only helping out the basketball program right I think that's where all the money's coming I guarantee he plays he pays for the football program too probably it's probably not the fifth highest payroll on the honest payroll though probably not though probably not yeah but anyway it's super interesting man I I really would love to get into it so we definitely should probably think about that one uh as a good topic for sure uh because there's a lot there man uh we got a comment here from Pacific Northwest Ute uh expectations aren't uh wilting wit expectations aren't wilting wit depend development and executions are dare I say scally was keeping the Ute's death D strong love it and the OCs were elevating the offense uh less consistently hashtag RSNB um yeah dude I think that's uh dude Pacific Northwest Ute always comes in with a great word play man yes always does that's correct and we appreciate it every single week definitely do definitely do but but I think you're absolutely right because I I think that I think it shows that Morgan Scalley was probably doing a whole lot more to hold this program together than may have been appeared that than may have appeared to a lot of us you know from the outside I I think that Coach Wood was probably relying a lot on Morgan Scalley to make sure that this program was running day in and day out.
- 48:39SPEAKER_03: I think he was probably mentoring him a lot more than people actually saw you know knowing that he was the coach in waiting he just because he didn't want to give up his head coaching job yeah doesn't mean that he wasn't ready to turn the program over to Morgan Scaly.
- 48:51SPEAKER_03: You know yeah he didn't want to turn over full control and have him be the scapegoat if the season went downhill but I think that Coach Scaly was was ready to take this program over and Coach Witt knew it.
- 49:02SPEAKER_03: Um and he was holding that defense together and um yeah I mean that that's a really really interesting take I actually absolutely love that.
- 49:10SPEAKER_03: It is a good one it is a good one uh when they complain about it sounds like the same things that we complain about uh at Utah a lot especially post 2022 2022 dude I was just saying that yeah exactly yeah I mean I was literally just saying that in my notes it has um you're good dude we believe you yeah uh we've been on talking youth for about 25 minutes we haven't even previewed the next game so let's go ahead and get into it oh yeah thanks for the comments guys that made it fun that was good that was good I love that um so let's go ahead and preview it AJ coming off a bye week AJ the Jayhawks are coming into Rice Eccles Stadium sporting a two and two record 0 and 1 in conference with losses to AZ uh Arizona State and Missouri one of those was in London by the way yeah the Arizona State game was yeah that's crazy um don't know why people in London care about a college football team but that's okay um that's neither here nor there don't they have their own college sports to watch and care about probably not football maybe they should you know more uh more appropriate just my guess i'm I cannot confirm nor deny that's just saying guys yeah uh youths are favored on this one by 15 and a half points uh on this one uh what is your take on um what's your preview takes on kansas versus utah aj yeah i mean i think this is an interesting take uh this is this is gonna be an interesting game um just just from a like a 10,000 foot view uh the utah the utah defense is is really strong and the kansas offense is actually really strong um from an all from an offensive perspective the um this team is ranked 60th in passing offense um but the rushing offense is actually ranked eighth um so this is gonna be a really run-heavy team um their their running back Dylan Edwards has 50 carries for 296 yards uh but their and but also their quarterback Isaiah Marshall um he is actually second on the team in rushing he has 51 carries for 234 yards so we're gonna see both of these guys touching the ball they're both going to be very involved they run a lot of you know read option stuff where they're they're just picking the best route to try to get a few yards um the and they've done it really effectively I mean they they torched a couple of teams for a lot of yards and that does artificially inflate your numbers just a little bit um so the U dot defense is it it'll it'll need to play fundamentally sound this whole game right you you got to be ready for the quarterback run quarterback option kind of stuff um I think that um the potency of the run with Kansas with the Kansas rushing attack will be a lot for the Uts I'm I'm really excited to see how the rushing defense holds up against this Kansas team because this is going to be a team that runs the ball a lot and they're they're not even going to act like they're gonna throw it um the passing offense for um Isaiah Marshall he's only got like 300 yards passing or something it's it's not a lot they they throw the ball very rarely is it 600 no no I just thought that was interesting right okay it might be like 300 yards he doesn't have a lot of passing yards he does not have a lot at all I thought this is you thought I was correcting you there's like I was like man I just panicked for a second because he has a lot of notes that I don't have um so we do that on purpose that way we don't take the exact same notes then it does just nod while somebody else is reading off the exact same thing it makes it very convenient yeah we've we've done too many shows where one of us reads off everything the other person has so yeah um but the youth the Utes do have the number 13 ranked rushing defense they're only out allowing 84 yards per game um so it's gonna be a battle it's gonna be a strength versus strength type of battle um I I think the the Kansas defense is going to have more of a problem stop stopping Utah than Utah's defense I believe will have stopping Kansas um you know especially running the ball at Ricycle Stadium it is a night game it is a the first ever wideout game it is going to be loud it is going to be crazy um they are going to have to be very zoned in on on what they're doing to execute this to perfection uh this is gonna be a fun game to watch man yeah yeah more to talk about on the wideout game here in a minute um Age on defense for Kansas uh they lead the league in total defense allowing just uh 244.8 yards per game uh their defense uh uh they defend the the run well uh with less than 100 yards per game uh Leroy Harris the third defensive end is currently ranked number one amongst all defensive linemen in across all P4 schools uh we also have Trey Lathan uh who's a linebacker uh leads uh the team with 22 tackles uh in my opinion uh this is going to be the biggest challenge that Devin and crew uh has gonna is gonna be facing uh that they've seen so far this is easily the best defense that they've got they're gonna go award again to so far because they are one of the top defensive programs in the conference right up there with Utah so we're gonna be seeing a lot of you know similarity on defense I don't think Utah is going to be able to keep their string of 30 plus points games going again um and I think it's what a 10 now I think nine or ten yeah that sounds right yeah so I don't know if they're gonna be able to get any higher than that.
- 54:18SPEAKER_01: But yeah so we'll see what happens there.
- 54:20SPEAKER_01: And again uh that 244 um total yards per game is total defense um uh rankings there so there are some other defensive rankings that places Utah ahead of them I know you just googled that to but to have to fact check me there.
- 54:34SPEAKER_03: No I actually didn't I was actually just googling the other two teams that they played right because they're two and two currently and they they played Long Island University in their first game.
- 54:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah they beat them 51 to six.
- 54:45SPEAKER_03: So to score six points you have to generate very few yards of offense.
- 54:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah well what I'm what I'm talking about when it comes to this though is is like this is the toughest that Utah is going to see defensively no doubt especially defensively ranked in NCAA rankings this is the best defense we've seen so far.
- 55:00SPEAKER_03: So with no doubt about it.
- 55:01SPEAKER_01: So with that AJ what I want to lead on to that is is is that that statement where I'm convinced I'm confident that Utah is not going to score over 30 points this week yet.
- 55:10SPEAKER_03: I would disagree you think they're gonna still keep it going I think Utah could score 35 in this game easily.
- 55:16SPEAKER_03: Okay okay yeah I like it something something we're not engraving on this and I think the biggest reason is is um yes their defense has done a good job I think that this Utah offense does a really good job putting wrinkles in um where they need them right like the if if if there's any weakness in this defense and I bel and I I didn't pull up how their passing defense is um but but I would assume their passing defense is probably not as good as their rushing defense.
- 55:49SPEAKER_01: Then that means passing is 145.
- 55:51SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 55:51SPEAKER_01: So their passing is a little bit better than rushing.
- 55:53SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 55:54SPEAKER_01: So carry me if I'm wrong on on that in the math.
- 55:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah I would say maybe um maybe I'm wrong in the math yeah probably no no no I'm saying I'm saying like that yeah probably probably just similarly ranked yeah man but to your point man I think that's awesome that we kind of uh agree there uh we disagree there that on that because again to my point this is going to be the first test that they're the offense is going to have and we keep I keep saying that we haven't seen enough from this team to really kind of give us an idea of what their identity is going to be from you know we know how they are defensively right and offensively we know what kind of scheme they're running we know what kind of plays they're gonna run they get their great with trick plays with their dual quarterbacks coming out the back they're sending their their wide receiver their run back out for short routes for you know he might catch a deep ball who knows they're like you know they might bring in the water guy to bring it in you know what's funny is at that Utah State game I was sitting here watching the backup kicker kick the ball into the net probably about 150 times during that game and you know when he actually got out there to to kick the ball they faked it.
- 56:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah I'm just like dude that was the longest dig I've ever seen in my entire life where they were just basically slow playing Utah State over there saying yeah you see this guy he's kicking he's kicking he's kicking and then you bring him out to the field doesn't kick the ball you know they they are like it's crazy because he's right in front of you too yeah you watch it happen like over and over and over again yeah just keep it going over and over again that long haired blonde guy uh Phillips or Orion Phillips yeah yeah that's the kid's name yeah so I was just like watching this guy kick it kick I'm like yeah cool I can't wait to see that out of the field and then they put him out there punter though oh he's the punter yeah Orion Phillips is the punter yeah punt yeah so they're gonna punt it sorry they're gonna punt it they fake the punt sorry not kicker obviously kicking is for punting is kicking though they are technically kicking the ball yeah but yeah man uh so when it comes to that dude I just think it's gonna be great to kind of just tell us a little bit more about this offense we're gonna see the offense get tested this week and I absolutely love that I do too I agree I think this is going to be a great a great game I'm obviously predicting a Utah win here um I don't see why not I'm I'm predicting a Utah win uh but before we get on to your prediction there whiteout game uh so if you're heading up the hill uh this weekend remember to wear white AJ um did you ever did you listen to the coach's show with Morgan Scalley?
- 57:57SPEAKER_01: Do you ever listen to that?
- 57:58SPEAKER_01: Uh I listen to it every other week probably okay like okay that's oddly specific yeah uh but anyway he was asked about what he thought about the uniforms and he said they actually got his input on the helmets have you seen the helmets for this whiteout game they are so sick they are so sick dude they even even like Morgan Scaly's like I really like the the U on the back and the ice coming off the U's on the side yep and when asked about what do you think it means for the players he's like well you know wow look good feel good play good right but if we're worried about the uniforms then we're doing something wrong yeah so I love that quote from Scaly on that one what's your prediction for the for our boys up on the hill in all white this week I'm gonna go 3814.
- 58:34SPEAKER_03: Nice I'm going 287 okay I think you're wrong but that's fine.
- 58:42SPEAKER_01: I think the defense is gonna lock it down dude I just I I just think this from what I've seen as far as what the scores from Kansas is seeing I think they're not gonna get more than one touchdown on the board it's gonna be in garbage time in the fourth quarter.
- 58:52SPEAKER_01: I think they could have close to 30 points by halftime okay I'm talking Kansas you're talking use right yeah okay 30 points by halftime okay all right I you're basically just kind of dunking all over my whole the strongest defense they've faced okay you think they're gonna put more points on the board than versus Utah State okay good to know good to know uh we want to hear from you folks let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below uh as a reminder folks we like to appreciate you each and every one of you for uh this is what this is our fastest growing channel at the time uh Utah football DNA uh we're close to 500 subscribers on this one we are over 500 sorry we're close to 600 subscribers on this channel so appreciate each and every one of you for subscribing to this channel uh jump in the comments slash slap us some engagement there smash that like button for your boy AJ right over there and uh yeah we look forward to uh you know seeing you not next week well we'll talk about it we'll talk about it we have some scheduling coming on next week so if we're not on next week you know why it's my fault this week this time sorry guys it's okay um let's go ahead and switch on over and talk you got anything else on the youth let's hit those couple of comments oh Utah 41 and 10 I like it Greg also doesn't think that that this defense is going to do anything okay good to know uh we're close uh we've closed the playbook against Ohio State due to the weather according to the offensive coordinator what yeah that's what he said he said that they they didn't they didn't run any of their crazy scheme stuff because oh right right there was adverse weather in the second half oh right right okay so they literally just locked it down and they just ran run plays 3110 uh we homers all beat in the spread yes absolutely pacific north and that 30 point mark too we're close there but we're close what did I say 28 to seven yeah yeah so we're close um but I think Pacific Northwest use probably did you just did you just price his right me right there on that score he did he totally prices right me totally did yeah love it love it uh once again folks thank you all very much uh for joy uh for joining us on this uh episode of Utah football DNA and again smash us smash that like button for some engagement on the way out if you just have us on the background while you're on the lawn or listening to us while you're driving appreciate it uh that engagement really helps out a lot yes it does all right let's go ahead and talk some major league baseball let's do it but first before we get into the content folks we'd like to encourage you to join the conversation in the comments down below while you're down there consider subscribing to Major League DNA and make sure you smash that like button for your boy AJ right over there.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_01: Do it all right man so before we get into this episode what we're gonna do is we're gonna raise a glass and cheers to the Atlanta Braves and it's funny because I have in my notes that I had to I had to open this one and say congratulations to the Dodgers.
- 1:01:42SPEAKER_01: Oh I want to congratulate the Atlanta Braves for one reason and one reason only they got that monkey off their back they were 0 and 7 coming into the series coming into the playoffs this year on elimination games yeah but they beat that this year they got a win in an elimination elimination game and it was against their nemesis in in their division the Philadelphia Phillies.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_01: So cheers to you a lot of Braze getting that monkey off your back good all you Brays fans out there this was a good season for you I know it doesn't feel that way because you didn't get as far as you'd like to but honestly it was a good year for you guys.
- 1:02:17SPEAKER_01: You guys should be very happy about this.
- 1:02:19SPEAKER_03: No we are I am all right so yeah congratulations to the Brays great series it was a lot of fun you made sweat more than you should have so we really appreciate it good to see you guys it really was like I it was kind of one of those series it was like it was I mean just you know game four tonight I mean it was a one one tie all the way into what the seventh inning sixth inning like Tyler Molly came out and just the one run that he gave up in that first inning was on a Mauricio Dubon error at shortstop when he's robbing home runs they gave him a four yeah in right in left field yeah absolutely robbing home runs from Freddie Freeman but you know he can't come what come up with a routine fly ball um it and and the Braves still just battled through it you know they they had some good base running they ended up getting a run in that first or second inning and um they went after they I and then they went after him and then for Dier Fuentes to come in and and just kind of fall apart and walk two guys you know he comes in with a guy on first and dominated the Dodgers the previous game and had just looked lights out and and like that was the whole expectation was just we need we need one out dude come in and get one out.
- 1:03:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah that's the funny thing is it's the exact opposite the last two games the exact opposite of what everybody thought was going to come true.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_01: First off was they thought they weren't going to get any runs off of Chris sail and they were going to dominate the bullpen.
- 1:03:41SPEAKER_01: Yep get to the bullpen then you're gonna put up runs didn't put any runs against that bullpen the the Braves lefty lineup that they kept rolling out there out of the bullpen yeah Dubon not Dubon it was um Dodd um the guy who looks like he's you know I don't know he's got the weirdest delivery dude he looks like he's like taking his shit and going like this at the same like trying to cup a baby that fell out of a plane at the same time what's this guy's name you know which one I'm talking about I do but you've got this weird visual and now I can't remember it.
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah is it Lee?
- 1:04:12SPEAKER_01: Like these three lefties it is it's Dylan Lee yeah no that's not Dylan Lee it's a different guy.
- 1:04:16SPEAKER_01: Oh it's not Dylan Lee and it's not um Dylan Dodd it's not Dodd it's a different lefty um Ryan Kerr no it's not him Ryan's first name's not Ryan anyway uh but anyway so they they that's not how that happened it was it ended up being the bullpen and then and then the second and sorry it was the starter we got to cliff we got to cliffly we got to Chris Sale and then in the next game uh everybody was expecting us to you know be able to take out uh Tyler Molly and it ended up being Molly who dominated until they pulled him from the game yeah so it's really crazy how that worked out by the way I will have to say uh as uh somebody who said he wasn't going to watch the game then end up watching like almost every inning yesterday because you know this poor boy's heart is takes a lot um dude these two postseason runs of the last couple of years man you know there's nothing like playoff baseball dude every pitch like you watch playoff basketball or playoff football you're just watching the game as it goes right there's a flow to it yeah in baseball every single pitch edge of the seat every pitch dude like I was trying to get my notes done to like finishing up my notes tonight and like the game's on behind me and I'm just like I'm spinning in my chair like I I think I have whiplash because of how quick I spun in my chair when I heard a crack of a bat and I spun around and it was foul.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_03: I'm like Drake Baldwin played terrible these playoffs yeah really really struggled um honestly there's a there's a lot Michael Harris was a star though Harris was a stud.
- 1:05:45SPEAKER_01: It was really interesting to see the the big three for the Braves kind of shit uh kind of just not doing much.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_01: Albis did have a home run in game one didn't he but then you know Acunia Olsen none of them really played up to Snuff for this for this Brave team that we're expecting.
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_03: And I get up to Snuff, and and it's and it's it's all credit to the Dodgers, though, dude.
- 1:06:07SPEAKER_03: I mean, the pitchers these guys had to face.
- 1:06:09SPEAKER_03: They had to face Pereg Scuball in the first game.
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_01: Well, they're talking about like postseason altogether, and I'm like, pump the brakes, dude.
- 1:06:17SPEAKER_01: The murderers row that the Braves had to go through.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_01: With the Phillies, they had to face um gosh, they Wheeler, they had to face uh oh, what's his name?
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_01: Lazardo.
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_01: Lazardo.
- 1:06:29SPEAKER_01: And then uh the other guy, what's his name?
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_01: Romero?
- 1:06:34SPEAKER_01: Romano?
- 1:06:35SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 1:06:36SPEAKER_01: He was like, there was like first of all, they have like three.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to face the Phillies in the playoffs.
- 1:06:42SPEAKER_01: Because their starters were that good.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_01: And then they roll right into Tarek Scuball, Yamamoto, Blake Snell, Blake Snell, who they raked against.
- 1:06:49SPEAKER_01: Well not raked against, but they got to him.
- 1:06:51SPEAKER_03: They got to him into the fourth inning.
- 1:06:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:06:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they got to him enough.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_01: And then and then after that, you know, Yamamoto and then you know Tyler Glasnow, which, you know, I think you guys did a good job of uh keeping him on his toes.
- 1:07:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's no re there's no surprise why some of your best hitters in your line didn't do well.
- 1:07:08SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean that's just not that's tough, dude.
- 1:07:10SPEAKER_01: That's really, really tough.
- 1:07:12SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah.
- 1:07:13SPEAKER_03: And it was every night, dude.
- 1:07:14SPEAKER_03: Every night they had just a you know, every night of playoffs for the Braves, we had a we had a really tough assignment to hit really good pitchers.
- 1:07:23SPEAKER_03: And you know, they they did okay, obviously.
- 1:07:25SPEAKER_03: Like I as a Braves fan, I'm not crazy upset.
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_01: Two things on the on the Dodger side of it.
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_01: One was the kind of the the it kind of felt like a slight, man.
- 1:07:34SPEAKER_01: Uh that big matchup from game three, it kind of felt like everybody's talking Chris Sale, nobody was talking Yamamoto.
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_03: Oh see, and I felt like as a Braves fan, that's all I heard about was Yamamoto.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_01: Like I everybody I talk to, every podcast I listen to, everybody talking like Chris Sale in game three.
- 1:07:49SPEAKER_01: I don't know, Chris Sale.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_01: And like, dude, you got Yoshinobu Yamamoto, the World Series MVP from last year, you know, the guy who literally pitched had two complete games in the postseason in a week.
- 1:08:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nobody, AJ, in baseball had two complete games this whole season, right?
- 1:08:05SPEAKER_01: You know, and this guy, five foot and five foot like seven, five foot ten, 170 pounds, goes out there and just shoves.
- 1:08:12SPEAKER_03: But no, it's so ridiculous.
- 1:08:13SPEAKER_01: Cliff Lee got all the attention, man.
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_01: I'm just kind of like, okay, you know, that's cool.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_01: I I thought that was kind of weird.
- 1:08:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:08:19SPEAKER_01: Um, one question though, AJ.
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_01: And this this is something I gotta ask a Braves fan that's actually cool, right?
- 1:08:26SPEAKER_01: Okay, you know, because a lot of folks have opinions about Braves fans, local company excluded on this one, because I think that you're, you know, somewhat competent of a as a baseball fan.
- 1:08:38SPEAKER_01: Why on God's Green Earth are the Braves fans booing Freddie Freeman?
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_01: I have no idea.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_01: What the heck was that about, dude?
- 1:08:49SPEAKER_03: I I heard it and I was just disgusted at everybody there at Truist Park.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_01: Like, you acted like it was his choice not to be with the team.
- 1:08:58SPEAKER_03: But but also like, yeah, not not his choice.
- 1:09:02SPEAKER_01: No, he didn't sign with the Dodgers until Anthopolis traded for Matt Olson.
- 1:09:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_01: He thought, oh, we're still good, and then all of a sudden they made the trade for Matt Olson.
- 1:09:11SPEAKER_01: He's like, oh, okay, I guess I'll sign with the Dodgers then.
- 1:09:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:09:14SPEAKER_01: You know, you can argue that the agent didn't give him the final offer, blah, whatever, right?
- 1:09:18SPEAKER_01: The fact is that no one called, no one called him to tell him that the Braves want him back.
- 1:09:23SPEAKER_01: No one called him to give him the left, and and you already made the trade before he signed with the Dodgers.
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:09:29SPEAKER_01: You made that trade happen.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_01: It's not like there's a bunch of people in line to get mad Ellison at the time.
- 1:09:33SPEAKER_01: So the fact that the fans were booing Freddie Freeman, I can understand they're booing out of bitterness, like, oh, he's won two World Series rings since he left here.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_01: That would make some sense.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_01: But yeah, to me, dude, that just that rubbed me the wrong way.
- 1:09:45SPEAKER_01: Present company excluded, like that was that was not a good look for Braves fans.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_01: Not a good look.
- 1:09:51SPEAKER_03: It's actually a really bad look.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah.
- 1:09:54SPEAKER_03: Like he didn't do he didn't do anything to us.
- 1:09:56SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that might be playing for the other team is not is not an excuse.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_01: That might have been what tipped the cap for him.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I mean, sorry, tipped the scales for him to putting on a Dodger hat instead of a Braves hat when he goes to Cooperstown.
- 1:10:07SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_01: To have his hometown fans boo him, I think is not cool.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:10:13SPEAKER_01: Um, but anyway, I think the Bays uh did a great job.
- 1:10:15SPEAKER_01: They got the monkey off their back, they did really well.
- 1:10:17SPEAKER_01: Uh they got a win against the Dodgers.
- 1:10:19SPEAKER_01: They pushed their starters and their bullpen to the limits.
- 1:10:22SPEAKER_01: They did a great job um getting past the Phillies.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_01: I think it's an awesome.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_01: You had you had the first place in your division the whole year, practically.
- 1:10:30SPEAKER_03: Practically the whole year.
- 1:10:31SPEAKER_01: It's a year you could be proud of, man.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_01: I super love it.
- 1:10:33SPEAKER_01: I think you guys did a great job.
- 1:10:34SPEAKER_01: Got a comment here from friend of the channel.
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_01: Sorry, AJ.
- 1:10:37SPEAKER_01: Appreciate it.
- 1:10:38SPEAKER_01: Uh, we also got a comment here, so which we're gonna talk about here soon.
- 1:10:40SPEAKER_01: Uh Yankees got swept by Tampa Bay, which is very interesting.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_01: Uh, we also have failed.
- 1:10:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_01: See here after last year, the Braves uh this year look our huge improvement.
- 1:10:51SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:10:52SPEAKER_01: Uh, it was gut-wrenching.
- 1:10:54SPEAKER_01: Um, booing Freeman probably put a little fire into him.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:10:58SPEAKER_01: Did you see what happened?
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_01: Like he hit a bomb.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_01: Du bomb robbed robbed it.
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_03: Yeah, then he comes back to the next inning and hits another one.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_03: I'll hit another one.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it's pretty uh he's like, catch this one.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh Sid's got a comment here.
- 1:11:10SPEAKER_01: Freedom uh Freeman is a class act, absolutely, and I have to agree with that because what he said in the post-game interview when they asked him about the booze, he's like, you know, I I've got a uniform on for a really great team.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_01: Um, I expect uh booze to come.
- 1:11:21SPEAKER_01: Uh I've got nothing but love for everybody here.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_01: Like, it's a class act thing to say when your hometown team just booed you.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_01: You know, I think that's so cool.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_01: So yeah, spot on, Freddie.
- 1:11:31SPEAKER_01: Uh uh on that sit.
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_01: Appreciate it.
- 1:11:33SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, so great series, man.
- 1:11:35SPEAKER_01: It was a fun, fun one to watch.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_01: Um, look forward to next year, man.
- 1:11:38SPEAKER_01: If there is one.
- 1:11:39SPEAKER_01: Um if there is one.
- 1:11:42SPEAKER_01: We'll talk more base.
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll do some more bantering.
- 1:11:44SPEAKER_01: Again, keep guys, keep it coming in the comments, man.
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_01: Absolutely love it.
- 1:11:47SPEAKER_01: Let's go ahead and jump into our first subject that we want to talk about, AJ.
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:11:50SPEAKER_03: And and this is uh this is something that I kind of was I I wanted to bring up because you know, I I watch a lot of sports, lots of sports.
- 1:12:01SPEAKER_03: I watch football and I watch basketball, and um and in both of those sports, it's it's really interesting to see because home field advantage is is really important in both of these, right?
- 1:12:12SPEAKER_03: Like um in football and in basketball um fans themselves can absolutely change the way a game is played.
- 1:12:23SPEAKER_03: In basketball, if you've ever been to the Delta Center, which some of you may have, some of you may have not.
- 1:12:29SPEAKER_03: Um the the Delta Center Utah, by the way.
- 1:12:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the the Delta Center is a place where you can go and you can feel the energy in that place when it's loud.
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_03: I've been there for you know playoff jazz basketball.
- 1:12:41SPEAKER_03: It is electric inside of that place.
- 1:12:44SPEAKER_03: Um the same thing at the University of Utah.
- 1:12:47SPEAKER_03: Um obviously I've been to a few games there.
- 1:12:50SPEAKER_03: You can alter the game and you can make it really hard for an offense to play.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_03: You can get really loud.
- 1:12:56SPEAKER_03: Um but baseball, you know, when when it comes to home field advantage, I I understand, you know, there's there's a comfort of of familiar surroundings, there's there's the energy of the home crowd, you know, there there's getting the last at bat.
- 1:13:10SPEAKER_03: There's these technical things that you have, uh, you know, knowing the ballpark, but but does that translate to wins in baseball?
- 1:13:18SPEAKER_03: And then, you know, I'd kind of like to hear your opinion on on if home field advantage really means as much as it does in other sports as it does in baseball.
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_01: So I think you hit on a key point there that I want to go back to when it comes to the Utah Jazz, and it's gonna be more geared towards postseason, right?
- 1:13:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's kind of where I want to take this one.
- 1:13:36SPEAKER_01: In my opinion, I think it it for some teams it definitely matters, and other teams it doesn't, right?
- 1:13:43SPEAKER_01: Uh for teams like the Padres at Petco Park or Phillies at the bank, right?
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_01: Uh these are teams that need that rowdy crowd to kind of help push that rot push that team across the board, uh, sorry, across the line and kind of give them that energy, you know, so they can, you know, have that extra extra adrenaline to, you know, get another run across or get that last out, right?
- 1:14:03SPEAKER_01: Um, but there's also teams that are that build their roster around their fields, right?
- 1:14:08SPEAKER_01: You have uh Chase Field and the Arizona Diamondbacks.
- 1:14:11SPEAKER_01: They literally have their players geared around their stadium.
- 1:14:15SPEAKER_01: They have a deep outfield, so they put a bunch of guys out there that have a incredible range that are also really fast on the base pass, right?
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_01: Uh so there's are some teams that that do that, that built for it.
- 1:14:25SPEAKER_01: The Yankees have that short porch in right field, right?
- 1:14:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it feels like you could flick a toothpick over the fence over there.
- 1:14:31SPEAKER_01: Um and but then AJ, there's the other side of it, which uh to me, there's a bunch of teams that simply just don't need that, right?
- 1:14:39SPEAKER_01: Those teams, the Cardinals, Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, A's from back in the day, uh, Giants, Reds, all these teams don't need to have a home field advantage to help their team win.
- 1:14:51SPEAKER_01: AJ, do you know what's the difference?
- 1:14:53SPEAKER_01: Uh, why I picked those seven teams?
- 1:14:56SPEAKER_01: I don't.
- 1:14:57SPEAKER_01: So I named seven teams there that don't have a home field advantage or don't really have to worry about a home field advantage that actually, if you look over the history of their winning seasons, they have just as many wins on the road as they do at home.
- 1:15:09SPEAKER_01: Cardinals, Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, A's, Giants, Reds.
- 1:15:13SPEAKER_01: Those seven teams that I named are the seven top teams for the most World Series wins in post in baseball history.
- 1:15:20SPEAKER_04: Fair enough.
- 1:15:21SPEAKER_01: So is there a need for it?
- 1:15:24SPEAKER_01: For some teams, absolutely.
- 1:15:26SPEAKER_01: Is it necessary if you want to be uh you know a world champion?
- 1:15:29SPEAKER_01: I would say absolutely not.
- 1:15:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:32SPEAKER_03: I mean, uh, I and I think that's exactly it, right?
- 1:15:35SPEAKER_03: You've you've got to be able to play on the road.
- 1:15:37SPEAKER_03: If you are a a world-class organization, you have to be able to go on the road and win two games.
- 1:15:42SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 1:15:42SPEAKER_03: Two two really tough games at a at a rowdy truest park.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry.
- 1:15:47SPEAKER_03: Um you have to do this.
- 1:15:51SPEAKER_01: You're not putting your team in the in the former, not the latter, right?
- 1:15:54SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:55SPEAKER_01: Oh, come on now.
- 1:15:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you lost one, you lost one series to the World Series uh favorites, man.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_01: Come on.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_01: But and you put up a good fight.
- 1:16:03SPEAKER_03: But I think I think the point is though, is like I I think anybody's gonna be able to do it.
- 1:16:06SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:16:07SPEAKER_03: Anyone's gonna be able to go on the road and win tough games.
- 1:16:10SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, no no matter what that home field advantage looks like, um, you know, winning games on the road is gonna be important in Major League Baseball no matter where you go.
- 1:16:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
- 1:16:21SPEAKER_01: And if you you know, you you know firsthand about when it comes to beating a team on, you know.
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_01: Beating a team on the road, absolutely, yeah.
- 1:16:29SPEAKER_01: In a hostile environment, right?
- 1:16:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, we see this time in and time out, you know, the the the Braves in Truis Park, they have they have their crowd, and then you flip it and you have to go to San Diego and play Petco.
- 1:16:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
- 1:16:39SPEAKER_03: So that place is crazy, yeah.
- 1:16:41SPEAKER_01: So if you want to be able to win, you gotta be able to win in those environments.
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_01: You don't necessarily have to have that environment at home.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, interesting, interesting uh question there we posed there.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_01: We want to hear from you folks, let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
- 1:16:53SPEAKER_01: Do you feel that uh home field advantage is as important in baseball as it is in other sports?
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_01: Uh, we want to hear from you, let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_03: So, so the next subject we've got on baseball is you know, you we were just talking about the Braves and and they're great, you know, they they they took home their wild card, you know, series victory.
- 1:17:14SPEAKER_03: And it was it was really important for them to kind of, like you said, get the monkey off their shoulder.
- 1:17:18SPEAKER_03: And you know, they were 0-7 or whatever it was, and and uh was it 0-7?
- 1:17:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was 0-7 in uh elimination games.
- 1:17:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and specifically against uh specifically against the Phillies.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_03: I mean, this team just really struggled.
- 1:17:31SPEAKER_03: Um, this this Philliad this Philadelphia Phillies team kind of entered this season with with expectations of making another deep postseason run, right?
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_03: And and yeah, those hopes obviously came to an end.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_03: The Braves beat them in the wild card loss.
- 1:17:44SPEAKER_03: Um, but but I think the question facing Philadelphia is really is it time to break up this team, right?
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_03: I mean, after years of building around stars like Bryce Harper and Trey Turner, Zach Wheeler, Kyle Schwarber, the Phillies on paper have a core that is very capable of winning.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_03: Um so so what do you think?
- 1:18:06SPEAKER_03: Is it time that these guys kind of make a change to their roster?
- 1:18:09SPEAKER_03: Um, because it may have reached its ceiling, right?
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_03: A lot of these players are on the they're they're on the the wrong side of 30 and you know, tail ends of their careers, is it time these guys start making some moves and and potentially look to rebuild this roster?
- 1:18:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:18:22SPEAKER_01: And this is coming from a team whose other teams in the playoffs called their team a bunch of dinosaurs, which is always great to hear.
- 1:18:29SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:18:29SPEAKER_01: Um, but the uh to your point, yeah, man.
- 1:18:32SPEAKER_01: I think they need to be, man.
- 1:18:33SPEAKER_01: I think at this point, I mean I've had uh I have a few friends that I speak with, a couple work colleagues that are big Phillies fans, right?
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:18:40SPEAKER_01: And yeah, they're done.
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_01: They're done with this lineup, absolutely.
- 1:18:43SPEAKER_01: And I think they need to, and I don't think they need to necessarily blow it up, AJ.
- 1:18:46SPEAKER_01: Uh, but I do think certain moves with certain players uh have ran their course and makes sense for them to move on.
- 1:18:52SPEAKER_01: Um, this team has fallen far.
- 1:18:54SPEAKER_01: Um they have now they have owned the Braves in the postseason for years now, and now the Braves have beat them, but before that, they've also lost ever I think that to them, uh to this team was the nail in the coffin.
- 1:19:06SPEAKER_01: Like we still own our we still own our division in the postseason, right?
- 1:19:09SPEAKER_01: We can still beat the Braves.
- 1:19:10SPEAKER_01: Even if we don't win the division.
- 1:19:12SPEAKER_03: If we don't win the division, we can still beat the Braves.
- 1:19:14SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 1:19:14SPEAKER_01: So we can still be the Braves and we still are representing the NL East, right?
- 1:19:17SPEAKER_01: This year that didn't happen.
- 1:19:18SPEAKER_01: And then for each one of those years prior to that, AJ, they have lost progressively lower in earlier in the playoffs, right?
- 1:19:26SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 1:19:26SPEAKER_01: They were in the World Series, then they lost in the divisional series, then they lost in the divisional series again, then they lost in the champ, no championship series, division series, division series, and then wild card.
- 1:19:36SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
- 1:19:37SPEAKER_01: So they've lost in earlier and earlier each.
- 1:19:39SPEAKER_01: Their seasons are getting shorter and shorter.
- 1:19:41SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, man, I definitely think it's time for them to move on.
- 1:19:46SPEAKER_01: Moves uh need to be made.
- 1:19:47SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, I don't know, who do you think they should move on from is my question.
- 1:19:52SPEAKER_03: I I think you have to look at you have to look at players like Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber because if you're looking to move on, you have to move guys that you can get assets for, right?
- 1:20:03SPEAKER_03: In return.
- 1:20:04SPEAKER_03: Um, Bryce Harper, whether you're a fan of him or not, I personally kind of like Bryce Harper, except for he plays for the Phillies.
- 1:20:11SPEAKER_03: Um, I I think he's a player that you could get some assets from, right?
- 1:20:15SPEAKER_03: You could get a couple good prospects.
- 1:20:17SPEAKER_03: I think Kyle Kyle Schwarber's the same way.
- 1:20:20SPEAKER_03: He still hits the ball really well.
- 1:20:21SPEAKER_03: He's still a solid defensive player.
- 1:20:22SPEAKER_03: You're going he's a DHS.
- 1:20:24SPEAKER_03: Yeah, definitely not of a defensive player.
- 1:20:26SPEAKER_03: I was I was I was actually thinking Bryce Harper is still a serviceable defensive player, but uh okay did you watch the series against the first?
- 1:20:35SPEAKER_03: I I did see him and they moved him all over the place.
- 1:20:37SPEAKER_03: Um but you know what I'm saying, like you you got some players on this team that that still have good bats that someone's gonna take and pick up and and gonna give you some good assets for that you could start a rebuild with.
- 1:20:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think you're spot on there on Bryce Harper being the one you need to look at.
- 1:20:51SPEAKER_01: I also think Trey Turner, but I think that contract's gonna be absolutely impossible to move.
- 1:20:54SPEAKER_01: I think you hold on to Kyle Schwarber because his contract is somewhat manageable.
- 1:20:59SPEAKER_01: He's getting paid like$25 million a year on a four-year deal for four years left.
- 1:21:03SPEAKER_03: And I don't necessarily know if you move Zach Wheeler.
- 1:21:05SPEAKER_03: I mean, you're you're gonna have you're gonna need pitching regardless of which way you go.
- 1:21:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you have pitching.
- 1:21:09SPEAKER_01: Like, don't ruin that.
- 1:21:10SPEAKER_01: You have a starting rotation, don't tear that down, don't do anything with it.
- 1:21:14SPEAKER_01: I think where you need to make the move is gonna be if you can move Trey Turner's contract, move Trey Turner's contract because they paid him way too much money.
- 1:21:21SPEAKER_01: Um, but when it comes to it, really the only real tradable asset there is gonna be either Alec Bohm, which you want to keep because he's one of your young talents.
- 1:21:27SPEAKER_01: But if you want to be able to like package him and Trey Turner in a deal to get some uh prospects back, you can do that.
- 1:21:33SPEAKER_01: But I really think Bryce Harper is probably the best one to go with.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_01: And I've actually seen some trade rumors that are connecting him with the Yankees in the offseason if there's not a lockout, uh, which I think is absolutely perfect because if you watched the Braves versus Philly series, you saw errors in the field and base running mistakes.
- 1:21:50SPEAKER_01: And what does that scream to anybody?
- 1:21:52SPEAKER_01: The New York Yankees.
- 1:21:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's a perfect fit for that.
- 1:21:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:21:56SPEAKER_01: He'll hit 30 bombs on that short porch, but uh probably 45 bombs on that short porch.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_01: But yeah, he's gonna run in some base running issues and you know definitely cost some errors.
- 1:22:05SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know what he was doing in right field.
- 1:22:06SPEAKER_01: That used to be his position.
- 1:22:07SPEAKER_01: He ran he ran the ball, overran the ball, turned around, looked, and then like, oh crap came in, and then missed missed it behind him.
- 1:22:14SPEAKER_01: Like bad read, man.
- 1:22:16SPEAKER_01: Totally a bad read.
- 1:22:18SPEAKER_01: I don't know what was going on there, but that was absolutely crazy to me.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, pretty interesting.
- 1:22:22SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I think absolutely, I think Bryce Harper's probably the move.
- 1:22:25SPEAKER_01: And if you can move Trey Turner for sure, uh I would move Duran while you're still half him on high because bullpen arms are um what's the word I'm looking for?
- 1:22:36SPEAKER_01: The premium?
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_01: No, they're just they're just inconsistent.
- 1:22:39SPEAKER_03: Oh, right.
- 1:22:40SPEAKER_01: Uh uh bullpen arm that's locked lights out this year will be the the joke of the baseball season next year.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:22:48SPEAKER_01: So it's really kind of interesting.
- 1:22:49SPEAKER_01: I got a comment here from uh Tammy Price here.
- 1:22:51SPEAKER_01: I can see where struggling at home in New York, LA, Chicago could make home field tougher.
- 1:22:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like Chicago is definitely one of them on that list there where they don't necessarily need it, but it is tougher for people to play there.
- 1:23:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, so there's definitely a good uh home field advantage for the cubbies there for sure.
- 1:23:10SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, man.
- 1:23:11SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, just like um sorry, you probably have do you have a random fact on baseball you want to talk about?
- 1:23:16SPEAKER_03: I have a random question.
- 1:23:18SPEAKER_03: Okay, let's talk about that.
- 1:23:19SPEAKER_03: Okay, because uh 3-1.
- 1:23:22SPEAKER_03: Brewers are beating the Padres, we're top of the sixth.
- 1:23:25SPEAKER_03: Not saying the game's over, but theoretically speaking, it's not the screen I was trying to go to.
- 1:23:33SPEAKER_03: Mr.
- 1:23:34SPEAKER_03: Dodgers fan himself.
- 1:23:35SPEAKER_03: How do you feel the Dodgers match up against the Brewers the next round?
- 1:23:37SPEAKER_01: I think they match up very well, uh, especially when it comes to a seven-game series.
- 1:23:41SPEAKER_01: I think that's the most important thing.
- 1:23:43SPEAKER_01: This is this is a shorter series where you just have to win three games and you're moving on.
- 1:23:46SPEAKER_01: That can happen to anybody.
- 1:23:48SPEAKER_01: I think the Dodgers are in a better position, they have much better starting rotation, they have much better um ballpen depth.
- 1:23:57SPEAKER_03: Um and they also helps them to get out of this Brave series 3-1.
- 1:24:01SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:24:02SPEAKER_03: Where where they they have an extra day of rest.
- 1:24:06SPEAKER_03: Um, you you can go right back into your starting rotation, and Scooball can start, you know, game one against the the Brewers, and you can just roll straight into Snell Yamamoto.
- 1:24:16SPEAKER_01: They're actually gonna run Yamamoto second this time.
- 1:24:19SPEAKER_01: Oh, are they?
- 1:24:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that I mean that's what we've heard anyway.
- 1:24:21SPEAKER_01: I don't know for sure.
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I think they match up very well against the Brewers.
- 1:24:24SPEAKER_01: I mean, I really would like the Padres to come from behind and get some runs here and push this to a game five and just let's let's burn out some of those arms there, get those guys back from maternity leave.
- 1:24:33SPEAKER_01: There's like four, like three or four players on the Braves that I mean, sorry, on the Padres or on maternity leave.
- 1:24:37SPEAKER_01: It's absolutely ridiculous.
- 1:24:38SPEAKER_03: That's madness.
- 1:24:39SPEAKER_01: Like, why why are you guys making babies in spring training?
- 1:24:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like think about this.
- 1:24:42SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you guys doing?
- 1:24:43SPEAKER_01: Postseason, guys.
- 1:24:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's October.
- 1:24:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but um, yeah, I'd really like to see them push that for four games.
- 1:24:49SPEAKER_01: I'd like I like to sorry, five games, like to see these guys beat up on each other.
- 1:24:52SPEAKER_01: Um, so and give the Dodgers as much rest to figure out, you know, Otani, what's going on there?
- 1:24:57SPEAKER_01: You know, so there's there's just so much that the Dodgers need to figure out where they're not.
- 1:25:03SPEAKER_03: I I'm really concerned for Otani.
- 1:25:05SPEAKER_03: I I think he's got some serious health issues that the Dodgers are just pushing aside, dude.
- 1:25:09SPEAKER_03: I think the Dodgers know where he can be this bad.
- 1:25:11SPEAKER_01: See, we've had we've had this conversation.
- 1:25:13SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's the Dodgers.
- 1:25:14SPEAKER_01: I think Otani gets to decide when Otani plays, and I think that's the biggest problem that he has right now is that He says he's good enough.
- 1:25:20SPEAKER_01: He says he's good, and Otani and Otani at 80% is better than Hosway DePala at 100%, which I don't necessarily agree with.
- 1:25:27SPEAKER_03: I don't agree with.
- 1:25:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Hosway DePala was really impressive, and he had a good at bat uh this this tonight.
- 1:25:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he did.
- 1:25:33SPEAKER_01: Uh so I just to me they need to figure out Otani.
- 1:25:36SPEAKER_01: So if they could push this to five games, I would really appreciate that, Padres.
- 1:25:39SPEAKER_01: Try and do something for once in your miserable lives down there, calling us a bunch of old dinosaurs, you know, whatever.
- 1:25:45SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, man, I think I think that they match up well.
- 1:25:48SPEAKER_01: They've got Mizerowski and then everybody else.
- 1:25:50SPEAKER_01: I mean, they have some other starters, but the the Dodgers have you have to face Mizorowski twice, you know, unless he comes out at the bulletpen, then he's not gonna be as effective.
- 1:25:57SPEAKER_03: And two games not gonna win the series.
- 1:25:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then the Dodgers are gonna have Yamamoto and Tarek Skubal, and then you know, I just think they're in a much better position to match up against them in a five-game series.
- 1:26:09SPEAKER_01: I just don't like Padres because I don't like the Padres fans.
- 1:26:12SPEAKER_01: I think they got to King pretty easily, you know, and he's been used in relief and starting um in the series, so I think he's gonna be pretty well used up.
- 1:26:22SPEAKER_01: So while I like I don't want the Padres to win, I want them to push at least one more game, you know.
- 1:26:28SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be tough, especially down 3-1, 3-6.
- 1:26:32SPEAKER_01: 3-1 and the six.
- 1:26:33SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
- 1:26:34SPEAKER_01: Maybe the Padres will come back with some magic.
- 1:26:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:26:36SPEAKER_01: I do like the idea though.
- 1:26:37SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't like the idea because I have some Yankees fans.
- 1:26:39SPEAKER_01: Sorry, guys.
- 1:26:39SPEAKER_01: Sorry guys, uh, for your team uh not making it out of the first round there.
- 1:26:44SPEAKER_01: But uh the Rays did sweep the Yankees um out of the playoffs.
- 1:26:48SPEAKER_01: One thing I want to talk about you talk to you about, something that came up.
- 1:26:51SPEAKER_01: I don't know if we talked about this in our pre-show or not.
- 1:26:53SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know the Talk and Yanks, uh John Boy Media.
- 1:26:56SPEAKER_01: Did we talk about this?
- 1:26:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:26:57SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:26:57SPEAKER_01: So the Talking Yanks guys came on after their game two loss and said that the New York Yankees are quickly becoming, if they're not already there yet, the Dallas Cowboys and Major League Baseball.
- 1:27:06SPEAKER_01: What do you think about that?
- 1:27:08SPEAKER_03: Uh I think that's a really funny comment from guys that are diehard Yankees fans.
- 1:27:13SPEAKER_03: Um but but it's hard to disagree with them.
- 1:27:17SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, this Yankees team is just it's becoming a thing of like you're supposed to be one of the premier franchises in Major League Baseball.
- 1:27:27SPEAKER_03: You're supposed to be battling for a World Series championship every single every single year.
- 1:27:32SPEAKER_03: Um you continue to dump money into this franchise, you continue to get pitchers that that aren't helping you in the postseason.
- 1:27:39SPEAKER_03: You know, you you've got uh 800 million in uh Aaron Judge who was out for this series.
- 1:27:46SPEAKER_03: Um is it 800 million?
- 1:27:48SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure it's a lot less than Soto.
- 1:27:50SPEAKER_01: I think he's making like Soda?
- 1:27:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think he's making like uh 500 million less than that.
- 1:27:55SPEAKER_03: Maybe I'm wrong.
- 1:27:56SPEAKER_03: Maybe I exaggerated a little bit, but the fact is, is it's still hundreds of millions.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_03: To a player that is not playing in your first round series and you get swept out of it.
- 1:28:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely, man.
- 1:28:05SPEAKER_01: I I think you got a good point there that they're fastly coming there.
- 1:28:09SPEAKER_01: I mean, John Boy himself, he said that uh James, he's like, Yeah, I think we're there already.
- 1:28:14SPEAKER_01: I would argue against that.
- 1:28:15SPEAKER_01: The Dallas Cowboys haven't sniffed a Super Bowl in the last five years.
- 1:28:20SPEAKER_01: And the Yankees have.
- 1:28:20SPEAKER_01: And the Yankees were in the 2024.
- 1:28:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:28:23SPEAKER_01: They've been in the American League Championship Series.
- 1:28:26SPEAKER_01: I don't know if the Cowboys have seen a championship game in the last five, six years.
- 1:28:31SPEAKER_01: No, they haven't.
- 1:28:32SPEAKER_01: Probably not.
- 1:28:33SPEAKER_01: You know, Aaron Judge is not Tony Romo, at least not yet.
- 1:28:36SPEAKER_01: Getting close.
- 1:28:38SPEAKER_01: Getting close.
- 1:28:39SPEAKER_03: Getting close.
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_01: Getting close.
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_01: Not gonna lie.
- 1:28:41SPEAKER_01: I'd rather have Aaron Judge and my team.
- 1:28:43SPEAKER_03: Maybe Aaron Judge is Dak Prescott, though.
- 1:28:45SPEAKER_01: Ooh, ouch.
- 1:28:46SPEAKER_01: I don't know which one hurts worse.
- 1:28:48SPEAKER_01: Don't know which one hurts worse.
- 1:28:50SPEAKER_03: Sorry, Cowboys fans.
- 1:28:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but honestly, man, I think that there's that, there's that variable.
- 1:28:54SPEAKER_01: And I think the only that what would be the equalizer is just how the Yankees are getting embarrassed in the postseason.
- 1:28:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:28:59SPEAKER_01: The thing that if you talked about, if you looked at, if you watched the Yankees games, even if you watch the highlights, the things that stands out about what hurt the Yankees this year is that the that it kept them out of a you know progressing in the playoffs, they had no slug.
- 1:29:12SPEAKER_01: They're relying on Paul Goldschmidt, sorry, not Paul Goldschmidt, Ben Rice and um Cody Bellinger to slug, and then the rest of the team just didn't do anything, right?
- 1:29:21SPEAKER_01: When you were slugging, you still made to the World Series, was you had Soto, Stanton, and Judge all healthy.
- 1:29:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:29:28SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:29:28SPEAKER_01: And then on top of that, you also, you know, had the problem is is that the problem from this year and that year is exactly the same.
- 1:29:35SPEAKER_01: You were terrible on defense, you were terrible on base running.
- 1:29:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:29:38SPEAKER_01: All you had to do was put the ball in play and you had let the Yankees make a mistake, and they continue to do that game after game after game.
- 1:29:44SPEAKER_01: And that's the problem.
- 1:29:44SPEAKER_01: You guys didn't have the slug to overcome your shortcomings.
- 1:29:48SPEAKER_01: I think the Yankees are in a similar position.
- 1:29:50SPEAKER_01: I think Cashman needs to blow up this team.
- 1:29:54SPEAKER_01: Everybody except for Judge, Slitler, the pitching staff.
- 1:29:57SPEAKER_03: Maxfried.
- 1:29:59SPEAKER_01: You know, Max Fried is in the pitching staff.
- 1:30:00SPEAKER_01: He's on like a 10-year contract.
- 1:30:02SPEAKER_03: He is on the pitching staff.
- 1:30:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know that.
- 1:30:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:30:05SPEAKER_01: I I appreciate that for letting me know.
- 1:30:07SPEAKER_01: I got you.
- 1:30:07SPEAKER_01: I think we did an episode on when they when he resigned with the Mets.
- 1:30:10SPEAKER_01: Sorry, in the Mets.
- 1:30:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:30:11SPEAKER_01: Braves.
- 1:30:12SPEAKER_01: Completely different team.
- 1:30:13SPEAKER_03: So I got one more question, though.
- 1:30:15SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 1:30:15SPEAKER_03: Um, for you as far as the Dodgers.
- 1:30:18SPEAKER_03: Because are you concerned with and and this sounds crazy, but but it's something that that kept getting brought up on all these Dodgers and Braves broadcasts.
- 1:30:27SPEAKER_03: Obviously, I watched every second of every game.
- 1:30:29SPEAKER_01: I got so tired of the glazing of the Braves, all series long.
- 1:30:32SPEAKER_01: John Smoltz, dude, just take the dick out of your mouth, bro.
- 1:30:35SPEAKER_01: Love you, John Smoltz.
- 1:30:36SPEAKER_03: One of my favorite pitchers of all time.
- 1:30:38SPEAKER_03: Um, but anyways, uh my can my question for you though is how how are you feeling about the hitting of this Dodgers team?
- 1:30:45SPEAKER_03: Because now the Braves, the Braves did not put out any power lineups.
- 1:30:49SPEAKER_03: I mean, our best pitcher was Chris Sail.
- 1:30:51SPEAKER_03: You guys obviously beat him.
- 1:30:52SPEAKER_03: Tyler Molly looked good in the postseason.
- 1:30:55SPEAKER_03: He looked subpar most of the season as a as a Dodgers.
- 1:30:59SPEAKER_03: And he played okay, but the Dodgers could not generate runs unless they were hitting home runs.
- 1:31:06SPEAKER_03: Do you think it's sustainable for the Dodgers to continue to hit home runs and win ball games for the rest of the playoffs?
- 1:31:12SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what won in the World Series last year.
- 1:31:14SPEAKER_01: And I get that.
- 1:31:15SPEAKER_01: Like they literally had to outslug the Blue Jays in the game seven, three home runs to get them to win that game.
- 1:31:22SPEAKER_01: And I think while they didn't have to do that in the 2024 World Series, it did help them in against the Brewers in the championship series that year.
- 1:31:33SPEAKER_03: I I I worry for the Dodgers because I I worry if it's sustainable to only rely on home runs to generate offense.
- 1:31:41SPEAKER_01: They got one run uh out of a home that wasn't a home run this game.
- 1:31:44SPEAKER_01: They got two today.
- 1:31:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:31:45SPEAKER_01: Two today.
- 1:31:46SPEAKER_03: Two today after after Didier Fuentes, yeah.
- 1:31:49SPEAKER_03: After Fuentes came in and shit the bed and you know, walked two guys, loaded the bases up, and then who was it?
- 1:31:56SPEAKER_01: And he Paes.
- 1:31:56SPEAKER_01: Paez came like over the century, by the way.
- 1:31:59SPEAKER_03: Gets a three-two count and waits on a fastball.
- 1:32:02SPEAKER_03: So and and he did a great job.
- 1:32:04SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:32:05SPEAKER_03: Like that he did exactly what he was supposed to.
- 1:32:07SPEAKER_03: I mean, honestly, as a hit.
- 1:32:11SPEAKER_03: So happy for that kid.
- 1:32:12SPEAKER_03: That was textbook hitting too.
- 1:32:14SPEAKER_03: He sucked the postseason last year.
- 1:32:16SPEAKER_03: You know, we're it's you know it's not going to be anywhere but in the strike zone, and he waited on a fastball just like you're supposed to.
- 1:32:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a great, great at bat.
- 1:32:23SPEAKER_01: Great at bat.
- 1:32:24SPEAKER_01: Great at bat.
- 1:32:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but yeah, I think you got a good point there.
- 1:32:26SPEAKER_01: I think I think it is a concern.
- 1:32:28SPEAKER_01: I think uh three out of their four runs today were not home runs.
- 1:32:33SPEAKER_01: The first one was the flyout where Otani tagged on a sack fly, and then any paez got two runs in on that single at the middle.
- 1:32:40SPEAKER_03: Otani tagged on an error.
- 1:32:42SPEAKER_01: Sorry, tagged on the air, right?
- 1:32:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:32:44SPEAKER_03: And then two from Paez and then a Max Muncie home run.
- 1:32:47SPEAKER_03: Didn't he get to third on the error?
- 1:32:49SPEAKER_03: Nope.
- 1:32:50SPEAKER_01: Nope, he scored on the air.
- 1:32:51SPEAKER_01: Scored on the error.
- 1:32:52SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 1:32:53SPEAKER_01: Didn't he get to third on a throwing error to second base?
- 1:32:56SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was when uh Sean Murphy threw it about eight feet to the right of the bag and it went into center field.
- 1:33:01SPEAKER_01: That's one thing is that the Dodgers will always capitalize on mistakes.
- 1:33:04SPEAKER_01: This is one thing John Smoltz said that I absolutely loved is that you have to play perfect baseball against the Dodgers if you don't want to get a chance to win.
- 1:33:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:33:11SPEAKER_01: And he was spot on that.
- 1:33:13SPEAKER_01: The Braves gave made some mistakes and the Dodgers did capitalize on it.
- 1:33:17SPEAKER_01: While this game did show the Dodgers are capable of scoring runs that aren't home runs, you're right on that.
- 1:33:26SPEAKER_01: That was the first to this game was the first time that any of their runs in this postseason wasn't home runs, but it's a three-game series, dude.
- 1:33:30SPEAKER_01: There hasn't been a whole lot of baseball for the Dodgers in the postseason yet.
- 1:33:33SPEAKER_01: So lots more to come.
- 1:33:35SPEAKER_01: I like what I saw.
- 1:33:36SPEAKER_01: I like the small brawl approach we're seeing, but I'm not gonna have Max Muncy try and lay down a butt.
- 1:33:41SPEAKER_01: I'm just not gonna have that happen.
- 1:33:43SPEAKER_03: See, and I think I love that from the Braves because we we had hitters like Michael Harris, who's having a great postseason, had a great postseason, right?
- 1:33:50SPEAKER_03: He came up and laid down a bunt.
- 1:33:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, did you see you see what happened when our best player that we've asked to bunt year uh year over year in the postseason happened?
- 1:33:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he popped it up in a popped it up a third base.
- 1:34:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:34:01SPEAKER_01: So no, we're not gonna do any of that.
- 1:34:03SPEAKER_01: We're not doing any of that.
- 1:34:04SPEAKER_01: Screw that swing away, buddy.
- 1:34:06SPEAKER_01: Hit it over the fence, put the ball in play and things will happen.
- 1:34:09SPEAKER_01: Pop it up to the third baseman.
- 1:34:10SPEAKER_01: No.
- 1:34:11SPEAKER_01: His name is Tommy Tanks, dude.
- 1:34:12SPEAKER_01: He hits home runs.
- 1:34:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but no, I ain't here to bunt the ball.
- 1:34:16SPEAKER_01: I I like the idea of them.
- 1:34:17SPEAKER_01: Uh at least there was the thought process of some small ball this series, and they did put some emphasis on it on game three.
- 1:34:23SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I'm I'm a little concerned.
- 1:34:25SPEAKER_03: So after this is done, are you feeling bitter about the way that Dave Roberts coached this team?
- 1:34:30SPEAKER_03: Because when we talked the other day, you were frustrated.
- 1:34:32SPEAKER_03: You were frustrated with the way that it was going.
- 1:34:34SPEAKER_01: Well, Weiss was out.
- 1:34:34SPEAKER_01: I I thought Walt Weiss was definitely outmanaging Dave Roberts.
- 1:34:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:34:38SPEAKER_01: Over the first, and and this is a side note, this is something I want to talk about.
- 1:34:41SPEAKER_01: Actually, this podcast is getting extremely long, guys.
- 1:34:44SPEAKER_03: It is, and maybe we should wrap some of it up.
- 1:34:46SPEAKER_03: I just it it there's just so much to unravel here because we uh we were on opposite sides of this the whole the whole the whole period the whole series, right?
- 1:34:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:34:55SPEAKER_03: And we didn't even talk shit to each other.
- 1:34:56SPEAKER_03: No, no.
- 1:34:57SPEAKER_03: We we actually just didn't we actually just didn't text about the series at all.
- 1:35:01SPEAKER_01: You sent me to go Braves before game one, and I'm just like And that was it.
- 1:35:04SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden, doo doo doo doo dee doo d I'm like oh no, here we go.
- 1:35:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but like the here's a good question.
- 1:35:10SPEAKER_01: You got Walt Weiss, Dave Roberts, and uh gosh, who's the manager of the brewers?
- 1:35:16SPEAKER_01: Don't know.
- 1:35:17SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, it's gonna kill me.
- 1:35:18SPEAKER_03: I can find it.
- 1:35:19SPEAKER_03: Give me one second.
- 1:35:20SPEAKER_01: Uh friend on the channel, Tony Price, Craig Hawkins, jump in there.
- 1:35:25SPEAKER_01: Uh gosh.
- 1:35:29SPEAKER_01: It hurts my brain that I can't think of it.
- 1:35:30SPEAKER_01: Pat Murphy.
- 1:35:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's Pat Murphy.
- 1:35:32SPEAKER_01: Nailed it.
- 1:35:33SPEAKER_01: Cool.
- 1:35:34SPEAKER_01: So Pat Murphy.
- 1:35:35SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah, we have three.
- 1:35:39SPEAKER_01: Isn't it really cool that like three of the best managers in baseball, best game managers in baseball, are in the National League playoffs this year.
- 1:35:47SPEAKER_01: Like, think about that.
- 1:35:48SPEAKER_01: Walt Weiss did an incredible job in navigating the Phillies and took a risk, but a big but a smart risk in running Chris Sale game three.
- 1:35:58SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, you gotta move on.
- 1:36:00SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:36:01SPEAKER_03: Like your season ends if you don't roll Chris Sale out there, potentially.
- 1:36:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he's not running him game two or running him game four instead.
- 1:36:08SPEAKER_01: Like, did you think that like putting him in game four, Monday morning quarterback in?
- 1:36:12SPEAKER_01: If he's in game four, do you think that's a good thing?
- 1:36:13SPEAKER_03: But then when he rolls Ray Kerr out there to start against the Dodgers, and everyone's like, What are you doing?
- 1:36:17SPEAKER_03: Like, I get it he's a left-hander.
- 1:36:19SPEAKER_03: This guy was out all of the year, like he's only been back for two months, he hasn't thrown great baseball.
- 1:36:24SPEAKER_03: He comes out and absolutely rakes against the Dodgers, just throws a gem, dude.
- 1:36:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you love it, dude.
- 1:36:30SPEAKER_01: I I think it's I do feel better about how Dave Roberts manages because I don't know why I ever second guess him.
- 1:36:36SPEAKER_01: Because this is a this is literally a a manager who won throwing bullpen games in the World Series.
- 1:36:41SPEAKER_03: And also, it was it was and that this is just my opinion, because watching it, Dave Roberts was very aware that he had more pieces to play chess with than the Braves did.
- 1:36:51SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:36:52SPEAKER_03: Like if this game went to one more series, one more game, yeah.
- 1:36:55SPEAKER_03: One more game, sorry, yeah, one more game.
- 1:36:57SPEAKER_03: The Braves are back in trouble.
- 1:36:59SPEAKER_03: We're we're we're back into a bullpen game.
- 1:37:01SPEAKER_01: Anything can happen in game five, dude.
- 1:37:02SPEAKER_01: And and I and I think your bullpen dominated the Dodgers all we got to starters.
- 1:37:08SPEAKER_01: We didn't get your bullpen.
- 1:37:09SPEAKER_03: But but you're still just rolling the dice.
- 1:37:11SPEAKER_03: Oh, for sure.
- 1:37:12SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:37:12SPEAKER_03: You're just like, okay, and and who are we gonna roll out there?
- 1:37:15SPEAKER_03: You're gonna roll Ray Kerr out there on three days rest?
- 1:37:18SPEAKER_03: Probably not.
- 1:37:19SPEAKER_03: Well, he's a reliever, right?
- 1:37:20SPEAKER_03: So he should be okay.
- 1:37:22SPEAKER_03: You'd think so, but he he also doesn't normally throw three and a third innings.
- 1:37:26SPEAKER_02: True, true.
- 1:37:27SPEAKER_03: So he just took three, you know, two-thirds of his two-thirds more of his workload than he normally does.
- 1:37:33SPEAKER_03: So I I was like, I was a little hesitant on the on on the Walt Weiss, because I thought he was doing a great job.
- 1:37:39SPEAKER_03: And obviously, winning those reliever games, like the one reliever game that we won, was like, okay, we got through that.
- 1:37:45SPEAKER_03: I think you guys run the reliever battle, period.
- 1:37:48SPEAKER_01: Like we did not touch any of your lefties.
- 1:37:50SPEAKER_03: And it's crazy because Raker wasn't available most of the season.
- 1:37:53SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:37:53SPEAKER_03: Like we we relied on um Rossiela Glacius to close games out.
- 1:37:58SPEAKER_03: Um pitched well, but always always seemed to pitch when you guys were down.
- 1:38:03SPEAKER_03: He pitched at the wrong times, you know what I mean?
- 1:38:05SPEAKER_03: Like you if you're gonna use a glacius, bring him out there with you know before you're down.
- 1:38:10SPEAKER_03: Bring him out there when it's one-one.
- 1:38:12SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 1:38:13SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 1:38:14SPEAKER_03: Like and then and then bring one of these guys in in a less high-leverage situation, right?
- 1:38:19SPEAKER_03: Like you're you're you're counting on a 21-year-old um to to go out there and and throw three strikes past the best hitters on in the game right now.
- 1:38:30SPEAKER_03: It was foolish, but anyways, we're getting we're getting way long-winded, and I'm so sorry.
- 1:38:34SPEAKER_01: No, it's absolutely fine, man.
- 1:38:35SPEAKER_01: We got to eat people rolling with us here and talking some baseball.
- 1:38:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below, folks.
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- 1:38:45SPEAKER_01: We'll read it before we close it out here.
- 1:38:47SPEAKER_01: Uh, we really appreciate everybody for joining us on this very long hundred hour and 40 minute episode.
- 1:38:52SPEAKER_01: So, Greg, we made it, buddy.
- 1:38:55SPEAKER_01: And we're still standing.
- 1:38:56SPEAKER_01: We're still standing, buddy.
- 1:38:57SPEAKER_01: Over an hour.
- 1:38:58SPEAKER_03: We're still standing.
- 1:39:00SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:39:00SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:39:01SPEAKER_01: Now we definitely definitely need to end the show now.
- 1:39:05SPEAKER_01: He's singing.
- 1:39:06SPEAKER_01: He's singing.
- 1:39:07SPEAKER_01: He's singing.
- 1:39:07SPEAKER_01: We got a comment here from Tammy Price, channel, friend of the channel here, Tammy Price.
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