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How Ivy League Schools Began With Christ At The Center · The American Soul: America's Christian Heritage

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  SPEAKER_00: Hey folks, this is Jesse Cope back with another episode of America's Christian Heritage Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure do appreciate y'all joining me here and on the American Soul Podcast for those of y'all that are over there with us on a day-to-day basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hope you're getting something out of both of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And appreciate you giving me some of your time.
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  SPEAKER_00: So thank you very much.
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  SPEAKER_00: And especially for those of y'all that continue to pray for me and for the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Very grateful for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Father, thank you for today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for you, Father, and your son Jesus Christ and your Holy Spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for your love and your mercy, your grace and your forgiveness of sins.
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  SPEAKER_00: Through the merit of your son Jesus Christ alone, Father.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not through anything that we did or can do or will do, but just the free gift of your son, eternal life, salvation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Help us to truly love Him, to follow your commands, to love you with our whole heart, mind, soul, and strength, to love our neighbors as ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Help us to trust you, Father.
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  SPEAKER_00: Forgive us our fears and our doubts, our unbelief.
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  SPEAKER_00: Help us to overcome them all.
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  SPEAKER_00: And to lean on you and not on our own understanding.
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  SPEAKER_00: Please, God, our leaders here in America and around the world where people are listening, military, law enforcement, firefighters, EMS.
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  SPEAKER_00: And God, my words here, Father, please.
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  SPEAKER_00: In your son's name we pray.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think this more often these days.
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  SPEAKER_00: We read something on the American Soul podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's been a couple years back, I think.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was the pastor for the pilgrims.
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  SPEAKER_00: He didn't end up making the journey with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: But one of the things that he told them was to follow him as far as he followed Jesus Christ and not one step further.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't really think that I'm going to have this great phenomenal effect, folks.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not trying to say that as far as history goes, but I think that would be wise for us all.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's certainly my intention here on both podcasts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Follow me as far as I follow Jesus Christ and not one single step farther.
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  SPEAKER_00: So last time, a couple weeks ago on the previous podcast, we talked about Harvard's rules and precepts from 1642.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so today what I would like to do is run through a few of the founding mottos, seals, purposes of some of our early universities, colleges here in America.
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  SPEAKER_00: And most of these are going to be our Ivy League schools.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a couple here, if we get to them today, that are not.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the the overwhelming facet that you'll see here is the association of our early American education with God and Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's important for a number of reasons to know this today, but probably the biggest, one of the biggest, two of the biggest, is one, it really gives the lie to the modern definition of separation of church and state that the Supreme Court issued in 1947, Everson v.
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  SPEAKER_00: Board of Education.
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  SPEAKER_00: That modern definition is nothing like our founders intended or wanted.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is, you know, kick Jesus Christ completely out of our nation, including our education.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it's good to go back and look at this and see what the truth actually is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of these examples are going to be pre-Revolutionary War, but those standards carried over, folks.
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  SPEAKER_00: And into our education just as a whole.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're not definitely not going to get to it today, but one of the places that you can see this very clearly is Noel Webster.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also the uh I can't remember the name of the book now, but it was a it was a book that was used all the way up into the early 20th century for elementary education.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just tied very directly to God and Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: I guess that's that's really the big deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna start with Harvard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh Harvard was established by the Puritans in the Massachusetts Bay colony, and the purpose was to train Christian ministers, primarily.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was why they set it up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you see that in one of their quotes.
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  SPEAKER_00: After God had carried us safely to New England, and we had built our houses, provided necessaries for our livelihood, reared convenient places for God's worship, and settled the civil government.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of the next things that we longed for and looked after was to advance learning and perpetuate it to posterity, dreading to leave an illiterate ministry to the churches when our present ministers shall lie in the dust.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's interesting today how many people think that education and religion are opposed to each other.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, I wish my brain worked fast.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a quote out there somewhere talking about the fact that they're really uh twin sisters.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's education, it may be civil government.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the point is that our founders knew that education needed to be tied to God and Jesus Christ, and they also knew that they had to have an educated populace because it was so easy to manipulate and deceive a population that particularly, uh Horace Greeley, a quote from him, that was illiterate in the Bible, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But just illiterate in general.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you see this purpose here of Harvard.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, we wanted a literate ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: We wanted pastors, ministers who were intelligent, literate to lead our churches, to lead our families, and therefore our nation, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh 1943, these are different versions of the seal or uh motto for Harvard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh Veritas, which is truth, and that's 1643, sorry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh 1650 for the glory of Christ, 1692, truth for Christ and the church.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you can still see some of these around campus today.
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  SPEAKER_00: But again, you see that the purpose, the underlying foundation for Harvard was Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And just like when we talk about Columbus each year, right, one of his main purposes, uh, the objectives as given to him by the king and queen was to spread Christianity.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was that was a purpose for a large number of our pilgrims, settlers, immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yale University, founded 1701 by ten pastors.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the Board of Trustees noted that the purpose of founding this university was for a zeal for upholding and propagating the Christian Protestant religion.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: That was the purpose.
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  SPEAKER_00: Upholding and propagating the Christian Protestant religion.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you say, well, why Protestant?
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, why not Catholic or Orthodox?
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  SPEAKER_00: And you gotta remember that at this time, 1701, right, they were not that far removed from extreme persecution in Europe and Britain by the Catholic and Anglican churches there, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Anglican and Britain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Torture, burning at the stake, rape, pillage, plunder, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: When you really dig into the history.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is really what they were concerned about.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the separation of church and state.
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  SPEAKER_00: They didn't want a particular Christian denomination being favored and other Christian denominations being punished, people who followed different, they didn't want you to be punished just because you were a congregationalist or a Methodist later Baptist, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just because you didn't agree with the dogma and doctrine, not of the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of these people got in trouble for spreading the Bible, which tells you a lot about those denominations at that time.
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  SPEAKER_00: But they didn't want people, they wanted people to be able to freely worship God and Jesus Christ in the way that they saw fit.
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  SPEAKER_00: It in no way, which is it's used today like this, to pretend that the impostors, which is actually the word used to describe these other religions like Islam and Buddhism, by one of our Supreme Court justices, they in no way intended for the impostors to be on level of Christianity, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: The coat of arms for Yale had an open book with two Hebrew words, Urim and Fummon, if I'm pronouncing either one of those right.
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  SPEAKER_00: These were objects that were placed on the breastplate of the high priest for Israel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Comes out of Exodus 2830.
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  SPEAKER_00: And at the bottom, there's a banner that features two titles of Christ in Latin, light and truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you see the importance here, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You wouldn't found a university and put Jesus Christ in your mottos, seals, coat of arms, you wouldn't have your board of trustees acknowledging that the founding was specifically to uphold and propagate Christian religion, Christian Protestant religion, in the case of Yale.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you somehow wanted to completely kick God and Jesus Christ out of education, that just doesn't make any sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you can make the same argument easily when you look at our, for example, the Constitutional Convention, where the very first thing they did was officially as a political body seek prayer, open with prayer.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no way that those men who wanted prayer, who turned to God in one moment, in a moment of crisis, would suddenly turn around and create a constitution that was hostile or want an education system that was hostile to God and Jesus Christ, or to pretend that all these other imposter religions were the same.
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  SPEAKER_00: They didn't turn to Allah or the demons of Buddhism, Hinduism, et cetera, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: They turned to the one true God, the only God, the Father of Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's our American heritage, our Christian heritage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Princeton University, originally called the College of New Jersey, 1746, again, founding purpose, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just like Yale, Presbyterian Institution for Training Ministers and Christian Leaders.
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  SPEAKER_00: And their first president, Reverend Jonathan Dixon, Dickinson, emphasized that the education there, the learning of the students.
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  SPEAKER_00: The purpose was to make sure that that learning and that education was aligned with the cross of Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Their motto, under God's power she flourishes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And some early versions of their seal, an open Bible with the Old and New Testaments.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think, if this is not a miss, if I'm not misspeaking here, that the current shield actually still has this, a Bible with the Old and New Testaments open on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, Princeton University.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you think about how many of these colleges you would say today still promote learning tied directly to God and Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of y'all would agree that that is not at the heart of these institutions anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you can tell the farther we get away from God and Jesus Christ politically as a nation, the less liberty we have, the farther we get away from God and Jesus Christ in our education, the less we're really searching for truth.
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  unknown: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you what are some great examples today?
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  SPEAKER_00: Some great examples are the fact that we pretend that boys can be girls, girls can be boys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Truth is relative, right, from your point of view.
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  SPEAKER_00: Both of which are patently false.
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  SPEAKER_00: Columbia University, King's College, 1754.
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  SPEAKER_00: What was the founding purpose?
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  SPEAKER_00: Chief aim, as stated by Reverend Samuel Johnson, who was their first president, to teach and engage the students to know God in Jesus Christ and to love and serve Him, and to train them up in all virtuous habits.
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  SPEAKER_00: How much is that last part, even still part of our education system?
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  SPEAKER_00: How many educators across the nation, administrators, right, politicians would say that a core requirement for education is to train children in virtuous habits?
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  SPEAKER_00: Not many, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And why?
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  SPEAKER_00: Why would we not want our children trained to be virtuous?
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  SPEAKER_00: But again, Columbia University, right, 1754, the purpose was to teach and engage the students to know God and Jesus Christ and to love and serve Him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this was an Anglican episcopal school at its founding.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again, the point is that regardless of your denomination, these schools wanted education to be tied directly to God and Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's the truth, folks.
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  SPEAKER_00: No matter what anybody says, that's our American heritage as far as education goes, is education tied to God and Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's why for us to function as a republic that produces liberty, we have to function as a Christian republic.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the only way we can.
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  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, there is no education at any level.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kindergarten, pre-K, all the way through 12th grade, college, university, no public school that is not centered on the Bible and Jesus Christ should get any taxpayer money.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because we're just cutting the legs out from under ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you fund institutions that don't have God and Jesus Christ at the center, you are undermining liberty.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're reducing, you're literally hindering the ability to produce liberty because you're producing students that don't know how to produce liberty.
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  SPEAKER_00: The motto for Columbia, in thy light shall we see light.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's out of Psalm 36, 9.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the seal designed by again the first president, Reverend Samuel Johnson, had a woman representing the college, right, with children, students, holding an open Bible and references to one Peter and the rising sun, Christ as the Son of Righteousness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so again and again you see these founding mottos, seals, purposes tied back in early education in America to God and Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Interesting one here, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Who had a major role in this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Benjamin Franklin.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's why one of the things that's interesting about Franklin when you when you really dig into him is A, you you really start to question how much of a deist he was, but B, even if he was a deist, his entire worldview was biblical Christian.
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  SPEAKER_00: The motto for the University of Pennsylvania, laws without morals are useless, or learning without morals is vain.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the seal here, you see some stacked books emphasizing theology, learning, virtue, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You can't have education that doesn't tie back to the principles of God and Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you really want education with virtue.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But even in those places wherever it is, whatever the underlying ideology, faith is, they only promote virtue so far as they follow Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like the quote that I gave you horribly at the beginning of the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're only going to get as much liberty, virtue, truth as you are tied to Jesus Christ and his principles.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe you've got some school somewhere that's Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, communist.
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  SPEAKER_00: At any rate, maybe you've got one of those schools that manages to teach some virtue, some morality.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just because they happen to line up with the principles of Christ in that particular area.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're never going to find virtue and morality taught, inculcated to students, where that teaching goes against Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And everywhere you find any kind of virtue or morality taught, that teaching is going to line up with the principles of Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Brown University, 1764, Baptist Institution.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, right, we've talked a little bit about just Protestant in general, Anglican, Episcopal.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was Brown was Baptist.
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  SPEAKER_00: The motto was, In God We Hope.
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  SPEAKER_00: A seal later on had a cross on it, and some of their early fundamental principles religious liberty, but still very explicitly Christian in orientation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dartmouth Dartmouth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dartmouth College, 1769.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was a congregationalist university at the founding.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was founded by Reverend Eliezer Wheelock.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the original purpose was to educate and Christianize Native Americans as missionaries, plus English youth.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the charter emphasized that civilizing and Christianizing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you go out where the natives are, you go to where their own children, English youth were, American youth, and your goal is to promote, spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Christianize, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Motto, the voice of one crying in the wilderness, which refers, it's out of Isaiah referring also some of the gospel's referring to John the Baptist.
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  SPEAKER_00: What was the point of John the Baptist?
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  SPEAKER_00: The point was to prepare the way for Jesus Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the motto of Dartmouth, 1769, right, you're getting really close to the revolution again, was to prepare the way for Jesus Christ, to spread the gospel.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you have a seal there that has natives approaching a college building, flanked by religion and justice, with the Hebrew words for God Almighty.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you see this interesting there, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: A little tie that drive a lot of people today nuts, I'm afraid, is the Hebrew, the association there with the Jews, the Old Testament, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But God Almighty.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you see these ties in early education, this very distinct, very purposeful association between education and Christianity.
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  SPEAKER_00: But over time, you look around, you look at our education today, we have diluted.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've rejected God and Jesus Christ, especially for the last 80 years, again, since the 1947 Supreme Court decision.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've done our best to kick God and Jesus Christ out of our education system.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you go back and you really look at the original founding purpose design, you don't see this divide between higher education and Christianity.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see that they were deeply tied together during our founding era.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's a great quote here that emphasizes this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not talking about education, it's talking about civil government.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that certainly would translate if it's John Quincy Adams, it's from the Fourth of July 1837, and he said the highest, the transcendent glory of the American Revolution was this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the precepts of Christianity.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in an indissoluble bond, civil government and Christianity, that certainly includes education.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was what you saw.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't just the Ivy League schools.
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  SPEAKER_00: There were others, and if we get time on a different podcast, we'll come back and we'll talk about some of these other schools outside of the Ivy League.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this tie between Christ and education, you see clearly in the fact that out of the first 108 schools in America, 106 were founded on the principles of Jesus Christ.
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  unknown: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You can do some quick math there, but that's a pretty high percentage.
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  SPEAKER_00: If somehow our founding generations had this secular deist mentality, and they wanted Christianity completely separated from education.
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  SPEAKER_00: That would be pretty strange to then have a hundred and six of the first hundred and eight schools in America founded on the principles of Christ, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we'll leave it there for today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hope y'all got some good information out of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope it's encouraging.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope it gives you some strength, uh, some realization that our education was originally tied to Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it has to be again today, folks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, there's there's no justification in America, in the United States of America, for any public school, any school that's getting public funding of any kind, whether it's public or private or charter or anything else, to get that taxpayer-funded money unless it's centered on God and Jesus Christ, because Christianity is the only thing that's going to strengthen our republic.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the only thing that's going to help us produce liberty.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so if you take that away, you cut the legs out from under our republic, our ability to produce liberty.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you can't ask taxpayers to it's like asking somebody to spend money to destroy the foundation of their own home.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lead us not to temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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  SPEAKER_00: God bless y'all.
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  SPEAKER_00: God bless your families, your marriages, your nation, wherever you are around the world listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: God bless America.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk to you all again real soon, folks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Looking forward to it.