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123 I Saw Shadow People at 13… Now I Hunt Cryptids! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it.
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  Speaker 3: And then while I was holding it, but it's like the.
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  Speaker 4: Ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 3: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: fell through the planet. He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking,
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  Speaker 3: like there was a complete like just like blankness to
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  Speaker 3: his face, like there was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 2: I rubbed my corn my truck, I jump out the
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  Speaker 2: truck talk and that's what I knew it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was this gold Man. There would be a real low
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  Speaker 2: guttural crowd. One more step and he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: in clear view. And he takes that one more step
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  Speaker 2: and he just it was like he just stepped behind
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  Speaker 2: an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore. Welcome back
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  Speaker 2: to the show, everybody. This is episode one twenty three
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  Speaker 2: with Daniel Williams He is the co host of the
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  Speaker 2: Cryptic Wrangler podcast. He also has a huge, huge Facebook
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  Speaker 2: group with the same name. I was on Daniel's show.
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  Speaker 2: He invited me on a couple of weeks back, well
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  Speaker 2: about a month back by the time this comes out,
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  Speaker 2: and he was just fantastic host, very very just wonderful
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  Speaker 2: and nice and sweet to me, and invited him on
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  Speaker 2: the show. And he came on and he told me.
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  Speaker 2: You know about his fascination encryptis. It all started when
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  Speaker 2: he was a young man and he saw six shadow
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  Speaker 2: figures and a on a sound studio in Hollywood and
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  Speaker 2: it kind of freaked him out.
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  Speaker 5: Found out he had some special gifts that his grandmother
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  Speaker 5: could passed down through and the skip the generation. And
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  Speaker 5: later he got fascinated with cryptos and now he has
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  Speaker 5: a podcast with his good friend Larry Latrelle There Larry's
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  Speaker 5: coming on next week and yeah, fantastic episode. If you
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  Speaker 5: want to come on the show, you have something you
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  Speaker 5: want to talk to me about, please do so in
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  Speaker 5: contact me at the ia Jubiter podcast at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 5: Please leave me a rating here on Spotify, Apple Podcasts
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  Speaker 5: or wherever you get your MP threes And if you
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  Speaker 5: also like to you can do me a favorite. Go
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  Speaker 5: over to YouTube become a member. All links in the
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  Speaker 5: description below. This was a fun and fascinating episode, so
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  Speaker 5: I hope you enjoyed this one with mister Daniel Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello sir, How good evening. How are you today?
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  Speaker 2: You're doing this whole lurch thing. I'm digging it. Go
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  Speaker 2: for it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it in that lethal weapon and they say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not a very sharp blade, and he's no, no,
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  Speaker 3: not a very sharp face anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So he's gotta cut up.
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  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, So I always call those movies. I
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  Speaker 2: call those movies Let's mess up Danny was this what
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  Speaker 2: wasn't even an actor? Daniel?
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  Speaker 4: What's any Glover?
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's let's fuck up Danny Glover's house. Because every
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  Speaker 2: time there's something happening, he had, you know, he's getting
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  Speaker 2: an addition cuddle and he's they came and burnt his
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  Speaker 2: house up. They came and he blew up his toilet.
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  Speaker 2: At one time, I'm like, damn, this is some homeowner
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  Speaker 2: insurance man can't afford it down here in California, I trust.
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  Speaker 2: That's why, that's why we go to places like Mexico. Uh, dude, Daniel,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for coming on. Man, Please do me favorite tell
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  Speaker 2: everybody a little bit about yourself. Where can find you?
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  Speaker 4: Nobody special?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: I guess I got five.
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  Speaker 3: Of the crypt wrangler groups now paranormal u A p ah,
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  Speaker 3: what is the other one? Wrangler encounters where it's just
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  Speaker 3: encounters from aliens, bigfoot, dog man.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever on Facebook all Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: And I've got some things coming up with some people
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Have We're not going to name. We got good friends,
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  Speaker 2: friends in high, high end low places are all over
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  Speaker 2: the place, Uh, sirveboarding our shows, and so tell me
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about your podcast, man. I was recently
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  Speaker 2: on to tell people about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a great show. It was really light,
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  Speaker 3: so it was kind of really nice too, haven't you.
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  Speaker 2: It's thanks man, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still at the point where everything's new, so it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like that button answer this phone of this,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, it's I had done
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  Speaker 3: it a while back, and I just had some people
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  Speaker 3: that were just crappy. These are liars. Yeah, you're doing
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  Speaker 3: You're doing lives, aren't you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, lives Fridays and lives.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So when you're doing the lives, you have to
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  Speaker 2: look over here, what the people are writing, questions are
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  Speaker 2: coming up. You have to make sure the questions fit
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  Speaker 2: with what's being talked about at the moment, staying engaged,
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  Speaker 2: listening and all sustaining. So you have to like kind
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  Speaker 2: of split your head in two, which is why I
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  Speaker 2: hope they bring back these mental in solutions. We need
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  Speaker 2: help over here, No kidding, my gosh. Man, So where
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  Speaker 2: did this whole fascination come with cryptis Man? How did
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  Speaker 2: this begin for you? What's the genesis of this whole
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  Speaker 2: situation for you?
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  Speaker 6: I started out way back about twenty years ago when
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  Speaker 6: I was watching Josh Gates's Destination Truth with all the
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  Speaker 6: cryptid monsters and stuff on there too, and I kind
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  Speaker 6: of just liked it from that and it just kept
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  Speaker 6: reading and reading and looking stuff up and a little
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  Speaker 6: did I know there was a huge community out there.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's fun.
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  Speaker 3: But it's kind of one of those things where if
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  Speaker 3: you have somebody really really important on You're just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: how do I look like I'm not looking down the
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  Speaker 3: whole time while I'm talking to somebody up here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, being news to the podcasting scene and
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  Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. Just stay out of your head,
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  Speaker 2: stay in the moment. Just be open, bro, and it'll
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  Speaker 2: come out naturally. And that that you know, you have
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  Speaker 2: this very glowing personality and people are gonna attach themselves
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  Speaker 2: to it. So don't worry about that so much now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, so, why the fascination with crypt is
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  Speaker 2: just like an interest of yours or what happened?
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  Speaker 3: They just kind of caught my interest and I just
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  Speaker 3: kind of started going out, you know, more and more
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  Speaker 3: and learning more and more.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, I think it was like ten years ago.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that.
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  Speaker 3: Ronnie LeBlanc was going to be at one of the
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  Speaker 3: conferences out here, and uh so I went in and
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  Speaker 3: talked to him, the coolest guy, and he said, come on,
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  Speaker 3: let's go grab something to eat. And he sat down.
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  Speaker 3: He goes, this is you need to jump into this
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: Just moving back.
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  Speaker 3: From Colorado trying to repair a relationship.
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  Speaker 4: I screwed up.
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  Speaker 2: You need to do this And I went home and
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  Speaker 2: I started a podcast just from just from the just
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  Speaker 2: leaning from the conversation and your interest in it. He
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  Speaker 2: realized that you're the You're the kind of person that
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  Speaker 2: should be doing something.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because he had just finished season one expedition Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 3: So he was really like the guy I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be and he supported me the whole way. Talked to
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  Speaker 3: him every once in a while. He's super busy, of course,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, I still thank him emby once in a
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  Speaker 3: while of hey, thanks for getting me into this, because
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of a lot of crappy things that happened,
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  Speaker 3: and so him having your back, it's like, this is
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  Speaker 3: what I need to be doing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's always best not to like, dude, there's life,
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  Speaker 2: is that? Dude? I mean, how are you supposed to
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  Speaker 2: the good that there is no bad? So? But the
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  Speaker 2: thing is, you just can't. You can't just focus your
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  Speaker 2: attention to that because when you stare into the abyst
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  Speaker 2: the abystairs back at you. So when doing these kind
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  Speaker 2: of things, just look to always go back to that childlike,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, what is that over there? Fascination? And
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  Speaker 2: if you stay with that, dude, people are people are
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  Speaker 2: going to just be like shit, dude, I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: ask that question. Damn, dude, that is great and that's
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  Speaker 2: that's the whole thing, man. And you know, and being
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  Speaker 2: light hard about it, trying to make people feel comfortable
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  Speaker 2: when they come on and all that. That all works out, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: don't don't worries Like I mean, so cryptos interesting. So
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  Speaker 2: what cryptids are you interested in? Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: I've started off with a pair of normal for forty years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, let's get an Yeah, I've been.
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  Speaker 3: Reseearching on that for forty years. I had an encounter
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  Speaker 3: when I was thirteen. I was dating this girl who
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  Speaker 3: was an actress, and we were on the Warner Brothers
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  Speaker 3: studios and I said, I'm gonna use the restroom and
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  Speaker 3: I got lost and.
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  Speaker 4: I kept looking in the corner of the of.
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  Speaker 3: The back of the sound set and there were black people.
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  Speaker 3: They were all facing at a gate, which freaks me out.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm already weirded out. And so another guy comes
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  Speaker 3: back and he goes, hey, do you need help on
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  Speaker 3: the bathroom? Like yeah, man, So he starts showing me.
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  Speaker 3: I go, hey, what's up with those people in the corner?
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  Speaker 3: He said, what people said? There's five or six and
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  Speaker 3: they're staring at that corner, facing away from us, and
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  Speaker 3: he goes, man, I don't know what to tell you,
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  Speaker 3: I don't see anything like okay, And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: just shut up from there?
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  Speaker 2: Did you what did you look over as he was
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  Speaker 2: saying this, he doesn't see it. And you're looking at
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  Speaker 2: the same time as he's exactly you're both looking in
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  Speaker 2: the same direction. You see it?
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't, Yeah, because we were in the very back.
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  Speaker 3: So we were at the very back of the studio
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  Speaker 3: gates and I could figure it out. And he said
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  Speaker 3: to me, Hey, by the way, there was a fire
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  Speaker 3: here about fifteen years ago. A lot of people died. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's great. Now I'm already freaked out. And I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: talk to my parents about it because they were sworn Christians.
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  Speaker 2: I mean. And let's go ahead and circle back just
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  Speaker 2: this a little bit, if you don't mind. Like, so
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  Speaker 2: you're there, you're talking to guy, he doesn't see it,
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  Speaker 2: and you just kind of just meander away or just
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  Speaker 2: walk backwards away from it, or what did you do?
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  Speaker 3: I thought maybe it was some sort of fult thing
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  Speaker 3: or whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: But oh, you had this. Oh wow. And when you
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  Speaker 2: mean my black people, do you mean like shadows or
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  Speaker 2: like African Americans? What do you mean?
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  Speaker 4: No, no shadow people. I mean, these were solid shadow people.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you get to make sure you differentiate that because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about any racial aspects anything. What I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying is that you have to we have to make
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  Speaker 2: sure we get we got to get down to the
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  Speaker 2: brass tack of what you saw, man, because it's exactly,
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  Speaker 2: exactly and so full fledged apparitional black figures.
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  Speaker 3: Five to six of them, Yeah, right at the corner
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  Speaker 3: of the gate. And I meant to ask somebody else
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  Speaker 3: about it, but I just kind of went and sat down,
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  Speaker 3: didn't think anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: Was it the outline of the people or were they
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  Speaker 2: were solid apparitions like like like you and me like
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  Speaker 2: standing here, but you can see like features where they
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  Speaker 2: were wearing wearing clothes or they.
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  Speaker 4: Were all wearing clothes.
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  Speaker 3: They were probably fifty sixty yards away, so they were
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  Speaker 3: out there still.
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  Speaker 2: But I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going I'm just going to shut up because
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what the hell I'm talking about,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm looking dumb doing it. And yeah, you get
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  Speaker 3: a lot of haters, especially the paranormal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really care anymore. I've been I've been
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  Speaker 2: seeing all the murky mud slinging backwater red carpet stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just like I always found you know, the
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  Speaker 2: uh the people who are you know with me, you
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  Speaker 2: included many others. We we just say, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: they let let them do that stuff. Whenever this stuff
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  Speaker 2: comes to me, you know, you have two options. You
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  Speaker 2: can just confront it straight on and just be completely
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  Speaker 2: honest with you. Look, dude, I'm not into Hey, lady,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care what you're doing. Hey, yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: just because you're I can even be a close friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine and he's arguing with somebody. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to do it, man, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to do it because because you know, when you vouch
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  Speaker 2: for somebody, you know, there's like this thing, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. I mean I have good friends that
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  Speaker 2: would vouch for Like if we're in the room and
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  Speaker 2: someone's like, I'm confronting you there, Yeah, I want to
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  Speaker 2: do something, of course. Yeah, but like you know when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to this like oh this person is this
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  Speaker 2: and this person that, Man, I don't get involved in that.
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  Speaker 2: We have. Life is too short, dude, the hell at all?
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  Speaker 4: That exactly. We all have our niches and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That we're y. Yeah. Yeah, but I asked my grandmother.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked my grandmother, and I said, the weirdest
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  Speaker 3: thing happened and she said, okay. I said there were
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  Speaker 3: these black, entirely black black black, I mean like darker
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  Speaker 3: than black people standing at the gate, and she said okay,
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  Speaker 3: And so I kind of went on and she said,
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  Speaker 3: it's skipped a generation. It was supposed to hit your mom,
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  Speaker 3: but I hit you. So you're a sensitive and an
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  Speaker 3: EmPATH and you're going to see stuff like that all
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how did you deal with that psychologically? Knowing that, like, say,
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  Speaker 2: you go back to school, you're thirteen. I think you
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  Speaker 2: said something about nature. You go to school and you
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  Speaker 2: you notice is now you know, you know, it's everyday
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  Speaker 2: life for you and you're still under doing long division.
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  Speaker 2: Where to help people do with the thirteen? I don't know? Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And then it was junior high or h Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: probably somewhere is near like algebra one maybe okay? Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: The X dude, the hell with that? You mean the
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  Speaker 2: X Files.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly where you just put everybody else's name down.
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  Speaker 2: You never me you remember I was telling your show me.
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  Speaker 2: It was eight years old. I just didn't. I just
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  Speaker 2: never it was better for me to emotionally shut myself
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  Speaker 2: off from it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just it wasn't like I was pretending, because it just
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  Speaker 2: didn't be. It wasn't in the forefront of my consciousness.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of pushed it back there. I go, I
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  Speaker 2: know I saw it, and you're not going to change
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  Speaker 2: my mind if you bring it up, because I know
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  Speaker 2: I saw what I saw. But the same time, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to bring it up either. And now, like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: have you ever seen a ghost? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So your grandmother says the skips generation. So
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  Speaker 2: what did she tell you about it?
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  Speaker 3: She said that we can see things that other people can't,
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  Speaker 3: we can hear things that other people can't.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Going, what is we.
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  Speaker 4: You keep reframing?
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  Speaker 2: You make.
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  Speaker 4: My grandmother?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and she was the French War bride too,
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  Speaker 3: so she had seen you know, she had seen Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Your grandfather picked her up while he was over there
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  Speaker 2: in the conflict.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my first grandfather who used to work for I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, the higher ups, and he would go to
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  Speaker 3: court and read people's handwritings the way it's it's got
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  Speaker 3: the loops and everything, and that was his thing as
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  Speaker 3: a legal.
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  Speaker 4: Guy to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure what the heck is called is it?
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  Speaker 2: Is it a cartographer? I think that's maps. What the hell? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you might I don't know. Man on the fact check myself.
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  Speaker 2: Please continue.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, it's so, she wondered what I saw.
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  Speaker 4: I told her I still see him, but not as frequently.
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  Speaker 4: I have a little bit more of.
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  Speaker 3: A a leash on it, so I can kind of
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  Speaker 3: use it sometimes, but I usually don't because I'm it's
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  Speaker 3: not a comfortable thing.
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  Speaker 2: There's exactly a grapho therapist, a graphologist, apologists. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't carthologist, but as a graphologists I was. I was.
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  Speaker 4: That's a hard doctor.
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  Speaker 2: That's more mean. No, that's a cardiologist, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Fortunately, you know I do too many of those.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I'm still I'm still stronger.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing well.
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  Speaker 3: I'm fifty three and already had to two hard attacks.
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  Speaker 2: So damn, dude, you have a lot of stress in
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  Speaker 2: your life.
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  Speaker 3: Huh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I mean basically
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  Speaker 3: working two jobs three if you count.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the.
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  Speaker 3: Groups and all this stuff, and it's funny with the
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  Speaker 3: groups I had the Cryptied Wrangler. We started off at
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  Speaker 3: six hundred people, and I mean these were like the
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: best people, Adam Davies at Ronnie Russell, just really good people.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: And I forgot where I was going with that, basically
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: going with us. I think you said, I think I remember, right,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: if I can glean and what we talk about, and
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the pastor was saying, it got to be a large
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: group and there was a lot of like wee muck rakers,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: which then turned into being more stress. Oh yeah, they
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: we're talking about the stress.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, that's what I got. Stress.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So your grandfather was a graphologist, uh huh.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, from the wealthiest families, and then he was a
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: prince too.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: He was a prince and they were married four or
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: five years and he died. So she married another prince
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: that was not the same family.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: It's interesting.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So she she told me some of the stuff
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: that she'd seen over in France during the war and
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, because she was doing nursing back there too.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: And it's not much different than what we see here,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean, unfortunately the US, as you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: where we're the battling buddies so but.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: With your job as well, would you do your paramedic
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: or at least a former paramedic?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Right yeah, former yeah, former. I did that in South
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Central for three years. And uh that's that's more than
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: war because you're only showing up to the people that
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: are bleeding in dieing for what l a central.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah, so you've seen all kind of
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: all right, man, it's not remember this is YouTube, man,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: we can't see certain words because because we are a
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: free country. You know that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sort but uh yeah, no, what was I saying again?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I can't you think that you were talking about your grandmother.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: It's all right, buddy, don't worry. You were talking about
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: your grandmother and that she has special abilities and that
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: a skipped the generation. We kind of went off on
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a tangent. Yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she explained it to me. And one of the
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: things she said is, don't tell your mom. Okay, did
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: she tell you what my mom and dad?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I like to think they were the highest of Christians, which,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, that doesn't that doesn't mix.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Well, now, yeah, she was atheist before she turned Christian,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: before she passed away.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Just a great great lady, great grandma. Well, well woman,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: that's a all fall out person. That's a person who
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: really put the test of her faith at the end.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: It just happened to be at the end. Doesn't matter
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: if you at the end, if you come to some
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: type of truth within yourself and your belief in your
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: God and your I think that's a I think that's
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: a very powerful thing and a very intelligent thing.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you. I'm I ended up doing It's
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: called different things, but.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Basically they'reon about passing, about passing, and it's kind of
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: one of those I think they call it death walking
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: where you you're next to him. And of course my
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: family the way they are messed up in their heads
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: there wandering around the house saying well I.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Want that, and you have this.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: So I get that, And I'm talking to my grandma
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, if you feel you need to go, go, I'll.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Take care of everything here. Just gave her a quick
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: of you know, I got this.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: There's the three crime babies up front that are supposedly
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: my uncle, aunt and my mom, and so we kind
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: of did that, and she was turn Christian. It was
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: a couple of days before she passed, and so that
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: really started it for me with paranormal and uh it just.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Kind of kept going and going.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what could kept going and going? Okay,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: so let's go. So as being a paranormal researcher, you
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: just like did you started like well looking into it,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. And then maybe you've got some type of
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: equipment going on. I don't know, maybe dowsing rods. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: don't know what you did. Some people do, some people don't.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I am a I am a believer of dowsing rods,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: especially when it comes to actually dowsing. I've used that right, Yeah, yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: them too. Okay, this is my people have heard it before.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: But I had to. I had a big a well
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: o my property, which you know about in the middle
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: of jungle, all right, So I got some dowsing rods, right,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and I literally just closed my eyes and walked around
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the bsticle with us stumbling and kill himself or on
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: enliving myself YouTube you freaking fast like I would just
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: go and then it will cross and then you can
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: stomp on the ground and you the people were tepping
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to my ends were telling me you stomped on the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: ground and you say ten meters and then he would
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: say twenty meters and it would it would keep coming in,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and so ten meters twenty meters, thirty meters right, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: then it said when you say, and then I said
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: forty we'll go back. And then I was say okay.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Then I would go to another place ten meters twenty
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: meters and then it was stopped, like be perfectly crossed
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: at like two nineties. I want twenty five crossed over.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I say, this is twenty meters. I dug the well
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: brother nineteen and a half. Water pressure inside the well itself.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: The actual water pocket that I hit, yeah, pushed up
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to sixteen meters, which is what sixteen times three? What
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: is that? Whatever? That is? Uh, fifteen forty five feet
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: forty five feet I hit, I have water at forty
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: five feet and the dowsing rods, and I literally would like, okay,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: mark them with some sticks, but excell on the ground
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: right here, and then I would walk away and I
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: would do in other places. I found another one that
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: was pretty decent, but it was too close to the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: front and I didn't want people to know what I have.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So to the edge of the property, I was like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: this is a good one too, So I moved back there,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: swept all the way again. Everything it's it's it's really
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: easy here with a lot of rocks and stuff, and yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I was like this is yeah, this is the same
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: spot marked it boom hit. I saved myself a ton
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: of money, dude.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: So crazy how that works?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It is, isn't it. There's something weird about that's the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: we love these mysteries, man, So.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, that's that's what keeps me going.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So you got your thousing rods what so what did
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you start doing? How did this? How did this start
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: for you?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I mean you talking about researching it, and I got
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: interested in it, and then like six months I wasn't.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I just couldn't. It was so much on my mind.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: It was so it was more research than it was,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: more work than it was to see these six people,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: because you get real tired after you run into something
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: like that and they're not even looking at me. So
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: there's obviously some sort of I don't know, crossover barrier where.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: What do they call it? I'm dead tonight, you remember
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: what it was.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: But I did that for a while. I got burnt out.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I got burnt out on it. So you did it
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: for twenty years. I mean, what did you do in
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: these twenty years, forty.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Years, four years, forty forty years? What did you what
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: were you doing is forty years? Did you have a group?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Did what kind of what kind of what kind of experiences?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: What kind of experiences did you run into that or
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: like say, for example, that would be shocking to somebody
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: who doesn't do this. Well, give me a couple of instances,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: if you would, please.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: There's gosh, I don't know. We had done a couple
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: of groups. We've done a couple of places, and we
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: learned more about the instruments and what we could prove,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: what we couldn't prove. And I would go in there
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: hoping to talk to somebody.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I've only had that once or twice.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Intelligent haunting non intelligent haunting is the difference in the two.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: And with them facing away from me in that corner
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: of that gate.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It opened right there for you. That was it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, It's kind of one of those weird things where
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: you're like marked, you know what I mean?
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: But what do you mean by getting burnt out on?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It became too much for you to psychologically like hold
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: on to and be in a solid state of mind
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to do it and like say, least a semi professional
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: scientific way, which I know is so many people right
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: now their their heads about about the blow off the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: top of their shoulders. What I'm saying, people is that
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: he's in I believe if I'm once again, if I
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: could speak for you, that he's in good faith realizing that,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: you know what, this is not for me because I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: too emotionally involved, thank you.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I've actually been looking for that to the point where
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, searching for words. Sometimes there's a mother, dude.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: For forty years, it's been I'm like, my god, because
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I'm fifty three this year. So when I was at thirteen,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: then I got interested in it, and then I was
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: hanging out with the wrong people.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, there's a lot of people especially there's
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: some people, man, I don't know what it is. It's
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: just there's so yeah, it's just like, dude, I mean,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: some people are in it for the wrong reasons. Some
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: people it's there, It's there everything, and it's like you
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: have I've believe some people. I understand that it's just
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: a you know, I have to you know, I get that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: But there's also there's also a way of going about that.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I have to without kind of like putting down other
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: people and step on other people's heads as well. You know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'm the person that needs you. You need to have some
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: type of healthy balance. That's why you know I am
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: like on this podcast. People know that I do not
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: do a lot of social media because it drives me insane.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I just can't or I hear you you you know
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about being doing running so many you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: YouTube groups? How many videos do you get sent to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you every day? Oh?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: God enough? Just put it that way in the US
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: or from other countries.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I think there you go, fair enough. That's a great
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: way to describe that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: And you know teen other countries.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people like Tom, I know you're into this stuff.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: What do you think about this? And it's like, man,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I just I gotta I'm making you know, I'm making
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: tun in the Castle world. Dude, I got it. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: got I got ship to do. Or you need to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: make videos every day for TikTok. I can't do that, dude.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I get what's the social media back?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Then I'll build it. No, Yeah, I'm talking about you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: we're going to get into what you're doing. Now, of course,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: but I'm that that rigor. I'm talking to Rye from
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the Codegas and he's like, man, it's getting too much
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: for me too, Bro, I'm gonna have to eventually hire
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: someone to do it. I'm like, well that, I guess
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: that's a good thing. Is Yeah, I just don't want to.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: It's another full time job and I just can't. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I go, I told you at the beginning is we
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: started out, I told you againting I can't do it. Yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'll do that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Gona be crazy, for sure.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. You know the thing out I have, you know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: like Pam and Larry be able to.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a sweetheart, love to her and her husband that.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I want to. Yeah, that's we'll keep that. Yeah, some
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: stuff shout out to shout out to him. You know, Wobody,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: your name is very similar to. Yeah. They helped me
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: out when I needed and I was in a time
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: of need. I wasn't doing well with the financially and
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: they were like, oh, you gotta pay for this podcast thing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: That was like, yeah, I don't know, I gotta figure
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: out what I got you. Yeah, Yeah, that's how that's
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: not that I'm talking about the financial thing of actually painful. Yeah,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: she's helped out many others who many many others, not
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: just me many.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: That's why I was to all these other admins and
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: stuff that when I'm I'm in the field or I'm
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: uh researching for my book or something like, they take
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: over and they they've been with me long enough to
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: where they know, Okay, this is where it ends. If
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: I don't care who they are, if they say something
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: like this, they're going yeah. And and Larry uh ended
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: up doing a lot of warning them for but first.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: And uh oh.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: But after we had the six hundred people for about
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: a year, I was scheduled to have two surgeries, one
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: neck and one back surgery, fusion surgeries, and I got
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a d D. There's no way in hell I can
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: sit around and heal without doing anything.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to laugh, but I'm thinking to myself, Oh,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that's what that is. I thought you were just nervous.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: What is going on over here? That's what the hell
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that is? All right, buddy? Shit? Yeah? Yeah, I love you, man,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I'm good. I was like, I was like, why is
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: he having a hard time holding on to a thread here?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: All right? I think I got something. I'm on a
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: spectrum somewhere. Brother, I don't know. I probably have asked
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: for I don't know what's wrong with me, And I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: mean people deal with me, and I deal with them
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: when we just move on with I got you, yea
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: walk with me? What was the name of that song
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: from Lamb of God? Walk with Me? And Hell? I
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: got you?
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on my way. There's something light?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know you know what. That's what I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: bringing to Hell an air conditioner. Then you'll end up
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: being part of the raining party over there with awesome,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: he has air conditioner. Same thing for sweatshop. That's old
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Mitch Hedberg shure. I got at Mitch Hedberg joke. He is,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I have a great idea for sweatshops air conditioning.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I heard something about that too the other day, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I was remember what it was.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if the carrier
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: man will do maintenance in Hell, but whatever. Yeah, So
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: you get burnt out on this and then what got
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you into like, Okay, I don't want to do this.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I need to shift my focus to these these strange
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and unusual, for lack of a better word, things that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: are being seen by multiple people, not only in the forest.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: People think that's only in the forest. It's not. Bro Yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: A lot of times it's like, you know, in my
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: backyard down the street where yeah the way, Yeah, okay,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: let's go into that. So let's kind of encounters have
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you had with these you know, quote unquote.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: You know. It's weird because.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Twice a year I was driving up to this years
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: to go see if the Sierras okay, yes, here in
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Nevada and hoping to talk to the locals or somebody
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: else that knew where Bigfoot was, so that I would
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: go out there and and look, and then I could
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: also fish too, right. That was until I was back
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: home and I heard this guy in a podcast named
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Matt Harvey.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's the rest of the story, that guy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay much yeah, And I heard him on a
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: podcast and he said, oh my gosh, yeah, black Star Cane.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: You've got eight to ten different sasquatch back there.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, wouldn't that have been nice if it
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: was right down the street from my house, that Blackstar Canyon?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: And then he said, oh yes, and they drink and
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: fish out of the Irvine Lake, and I I just
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: about lost it. Oh wow, fifteen twenty minutes away from
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: my house and I'm driving seven hours.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: All the way out there on my vacation.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: You know, winded up life, dude. You know it's like
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you're looking for your car keys all over the house
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: and they're like in your hand. I am.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately. I know that I'm a little too much.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: That's me, dude, for sure. That's the you know, when
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I'm building something, that's half of the time, where's the
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: damn tool I just had in my Yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, that's why I have two and three different
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: of the same tools.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, having a strategic locations throughout the house.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I'm with your body exactly. Shout out to Dwalt if
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: you want to. We're sponsored by the wall.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Sure exactly. You want to make your tree stand that
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: did you can see that big foot better? Good? You
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: get yourself a power drill.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Exactly right.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I've had one Dwalt tool or
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I've got everything because I do carpentry and construction and
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: then I sang or hang signs and stuff for McDonald
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: building stuff like that all over and I have never
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: had one problem. I've dropped those things on the ground.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Bounce you know, cracked the bit everything, never had a
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: problem with it. Always work anyways.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: So this canyons closed by your house?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, black Star can't Onion. In fact, we were,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: We still are going to have a documentary film out there.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: God hopefully I got Rynnie coming. Russell's gonna be there,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: four or five other big big wigs.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Bico, he's going to be be there.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: In fact, when I was at Crypticon this last year,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I met Bico at the bar and we.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Were drinking alcohol. You're supposed to be You're supposed to
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: be an example for the children. Man, what are you?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? Yeah?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Five days in the pouring rain to do the first
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: documentary in the Daniel Boone National Forest with uh yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: All the one in was it Indiana?
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Right, don't know we're in Kentucky. It was in Kentucky
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: with Paul.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Paul Chafan is another guy you need to have on Uh.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got a whole I still got that list
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you roll. Yeah, I'm burning through as I can as
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I can remember. Yeah, we're talking about how much work
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: we have to do. I got a listen, I got,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I got Scott Rush, Paul Chafin, Ryan Glinski, Adam Davies,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Simmy Hin, Matt Harvey, Okay, Tom Winterton, Cindy Sap and
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Brian the Dragon Brian Dragon somebody. Yeah. Yeah, I was like,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you just kept firing names. I was so busy. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: got a dude, I.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't believe I've got like, all right, real small.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Oh we called it. We call that road writing. Yeah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Anyways, anyhow, I've got four pages though, from people I
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: just met over the years, sing coming through there is Yeah.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Fortunately he doesn't matter how long that list is, because
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: if you don't get a chance to get to it,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I'm still chasing people down the week.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Of all right, So you're planning on going out there
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: to u oh yeah, the canyon. So you went out there.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: You recognize that black Star Canyon is close to your house,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: so you went out there, I'd imagine. Yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I actually did a podcast with Matt and I
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: thought he was lying.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: He's not lying. He's he He's the guy I go
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: to if I've got a question.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So what happened?
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I've gone out there a couple of times by myself.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: And it's been really weird and you're not supposed to Hi,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: can I help you?
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I'm on a podcast. Okay, we're going to be on
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: your podcast, all right, but uh, what up?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Dog? Exactly right? I could not resist.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I hear you a little, but yeah no.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: And the more I talk to Mad about it, they're
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: not step on that keyboard.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: The more I talked to Mad about it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: About the paranormal, it's it's the most paranormal hot spot
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: in California.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, so there's that. There's UFOs out there that are crazy.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: You can actually hear these bigfoot late at night running
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: between trees and you know they're staring straight at you,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: and so it was amazing. So I was trying to
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: get him to come out here, and with Matt he
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: moved it. He moved to Texas, so it's harder to
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: do unless he's coming out here. So that's why we're
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: kind of were scheduled it back a bit and when
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Lexington or Daniel Boone the dog running in the dog
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Man and so we did that first, and I've never
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: seen so many problems. I mean, I was checking the batteries,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I was checking my camcorders.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I had it everything ready.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: In the hotel room the night before. I checked fifteen
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: minutes before we went we'd go all the way down there,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: no batteries on anything, no go pros, and the only
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: thing we could get it on was our phones. And
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: that is We've got a couple of cool things and
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I'll send them over to you and uh, and it
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: was incredible.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: What did you get? People want to know what you got? Man,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: tell me what you got in that way they know.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's up on the up on your over
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: on your page. Is what you collected?
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: What did you see?
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: The first one?
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: It was weird because the first minute we went into
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: the park past the sign, we saw nothing. We heard
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: some stuff, but first minute in there's one thirty.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Feet in a tree.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, Paul knows the stuff and I can
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: talk to him and we'll bounce ideas off each other
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: and it just gets deep, I mean, even into religion
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: and what you would say if it was if dog
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: man was attacking you.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: You know you've so you've seen a dog man thirty
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: feet up a tree.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: We Uh, there is a picture of one. It's very faded,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: but it's one of the best ones that we've got.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: So so what it walked me through? That man you got,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you got to walk me through the experience, bro, So
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: what happened?
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was great. I loved it because
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: it was raining, but it was.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You know, semi warm.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: So walking around there and Danny Boone is is just
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: incredibly beautiful.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: It's all the keys and everything, and.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: It just felt right. And he was on maybe he
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: wasn't on as much edge.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I went after without a care in the world, not
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: even I'm thinking, hey, we're gonna find one if I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: gotta pin it down and.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Shoot it right there.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: So but we did get some pictures, and we didn't
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: get a chance to do much more because I was
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: at Cryptid callon that weekend. And uh so this next
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: this next documentary we're gonna do is.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: D l BL.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: So we're gonna go down there and and Martin and Darryl,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Mike Smith, all these guys are down there with us.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: So and so we're gonna do that instead. And there's
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: something also, it might.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Be it might be a bit of a pest on this,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: but I gotta ask her. I got to ask you.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You walnasts by the way, walked in, You walked in
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: a minute past the sign, and you took a picture
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: up the tree.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Because this was just panting with phones.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, you were just like snap snap, snap snap snap. Yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a bit. No, it was just
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: a quick video.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: H I think we both did pictures and video on it,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: but we're limited with.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: With the technology that you could use. Yeah, And is
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: there anything did you sense anything? Was there anything heard?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Was there any? Okay? Because I would figure that would
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: kind of lend itself from what you experienced when you
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: were younger to this. What did you sense? What did
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: you feel?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: It was weird because and I hear everybody say this,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: but it seemed more crazy that I could feel them
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: staring at us everywhere, and you would look in that direction. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Paul had a monocular on it, so he's, you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: checking real small and I'm just loving it out there.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: And I got this weird hairs.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: On the back of my neck, which you know aren't
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: aren't much for me because it just that's the way
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: things are in life anymore, okay. And and see, we
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: didn't know any that we caught anything at first, because
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: we were doing that five days in the rain, racing
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: back and forth only using the phones, downloading stuff from
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: the phones. But I have a feeling that they can
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: get into recording equipment, batteries, all that stuff that's all
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: been proven mm hmm. But uh yeah, it was just
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: it was a cool feeling and.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Cool cool feeling of one sense, a cool feeling that
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: like there's something here, I can't put my finger on it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I want to know what it is. So it's exciting
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: but scary at the same time kind of oh yeah, yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: because I mean, you know, and everybody's seen dog Man and.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I've seen a video on Bigfoot from a guy who
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: gave it to me and he's this is the real deal,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: And I said, oh my gosh, this is not even
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: what half the people post on Facebook and all this stuff, right,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: And so it was really yeah yeah, And I got
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: a picture of dog Man and and it's similar, but
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: there's so many variables on him.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, Jody Cook was very adamant about that, Oh yeah,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and we went through it. I think we pulled it
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: up last time in his show where it was like
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: the five types that are now.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: There was seven, but I think two of the types are.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Miscid or slight variations of exactly yeah ears or you
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: know the face or yeah, dolvererman ears. And they also
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: say like they'll say like it's reversed knees, but it's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: just the knee of it, and they'll have the standing up.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: So you're basically you're going, you are starting to show
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: you're kind of collecting things, getting things together. You've had
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: some experiences that make you go, there's something out there
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: and you want to go start looking for it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: I was charged, man, and I mean I'm supposed to
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: have neck in backfusion more so, I knew I was
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: gonna be hurting getting out there.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: But you know what, once I got out there, man,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: it I felt nothing.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Adrenaline one through there. I got you. Oh yeah, I
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: was ready, man.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Nothing nothing that we caught and we didn't.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know until I got back from Kentucky
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: that he'd already found stuff.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: My god, but yeah, no, I mean that was a
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: blast and I loved it. Passion all right. If you've
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: experienced some things, you want to dig in to it more.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: And you're just you're you're just trying to expand your
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: horizons and come on shows and just kind of get
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: some ground swell into into the cryptic wrangler world. That's
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: what you're talking. Come on over, check it out. We've
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: got some things coming up. That's what's going on exactly.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's cool shots.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, man, I wish I could post some
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: of this stuff too, but kind of I'm keeping some
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: of it for the documentary. I'm not sure if we're
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: going to do a Daniel Boone L E L half
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: and half just to have as much you know, content
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: as we possibly can or use.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So such a strange place. I mean, I I've I've
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: learned about it in passing, like maybe in history class
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: in high school or something, right, you know, just kind
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: of where I'm a big I'm a I'm more of
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: a car tal or whatever. The map person. I really
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I like, you like, what's that ship called
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: where you look at the light pollution maps so I
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: can see where to put my telescope and stuff. I'm
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: a dork. I love that. So I'm passing through and
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: you see this like you know, dark area on the
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: map and you're like, what's that? Oh, that's the land
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: between the lens. Okay, moving on, and then you start
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: talking to people like Daryl Danton, who came like my
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: fourth episode ever, who was me and he's a great
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: friend of mine. He's the sweetheart.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Huge.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm six three and he towers over me. I
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: think he's six sick. He's a big guy. Yeah, and
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: it's uh he was. He had the kind of like
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the same experience you had with your grandmother with him
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: was the woodger, the wood burger when he was hunting. Yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: that story. He's crazy, man. Oh yeah, dude. Him and
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Martin Groves. Man, they're like best bloods. Oh yeah, and
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: they're just they go out there. It's just the ship
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that they run into with the you know, the possible
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: one that we talked about, you know, so go back
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and check it out. Guys. He's all my all my
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: shows here. But he was the one where he was
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: like he run back, he ran back, run back, he
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: ran back. After the simple past. I'm a tutor, you
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: think of another this uh back, after seeing this thing,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: after being up on his h on his tree stand
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: overlooking a creek and jumped out of there right, ran back,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: ripped his pants, slammed the door. Grandfather like grandfather, yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: nine years.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Old, what's wrong?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Would you?
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Boy?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Like? Oh yeah, I saw a monster? A monster? What
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: you see? And he told him, he was like, hey,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that's a little booker. I'll see him all the time. Yeah.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: It was like, there will wait a second. He's so
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: nonchalant about it. And that's probably the same thing with
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: your grandmother, right, but she's just like, any.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Well, you're going to see this,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: You're going to see that. And I'm like, I'm not
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: sure I'm up for that, you know, yeah, And it
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: was kind of gradual and then yeah, got into it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a thing like where sometimes there's gifts
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: given to you that you just don't want or is it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It kind of goes with that saying be careful what
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: you ask you just might get it forting got it anyway.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: That's about how my life goes.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: But it's but it's okay, man. It ship if you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: if you ever want to talk to me about stuff
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: like for real, like like real ship, like now we'll
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: never we're on the camera and stuff like that. Dude,
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: we talk about anything. What I know, you're a Christian
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm not, and yeah, we got a lot. I'm
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: definitely just like well spiritual what everyone call it, and uh,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: living God and all that, and you know, you know,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: before I sit down, I kind of close my eyes
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and give thanks until be like, hey man, I get
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: to eat the day. That's awesome, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: And the more I do that, the more I find positive,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: positive vibes coming back to me do so I'm like, okay,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I stick with this because this works.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it works. Yeah, and I noticed that too.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: You know. You just wake up and your mind is
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: just wide open, and huh, I'm up at I go
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: to bed at seven at night, and I'm up in
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: the morning in the morning until seven, sometimes eight is
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: when I'm doing my.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Research for the book documentary notes.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: They just want go to bed, go to bed like eleven,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: you know, do your research after you eat your you know,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: your hamburger helper research, and then go to bed at
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: like eleven, and then like you can get up and
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: go the best part of waking up and whatever that's
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: old drinking coffee and enjoying your life. Dude, you're you're
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: one of those guys.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can't.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Do not contact me at that time in the morning.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: You will not reach me. Bro I am busy looking
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: for cracks in my eyelids. Dude.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, buddy that I work with across the street,
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Are you what No, okay, no, he says, he says, no, okay.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's like that too.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: My problem is a lot of my friends are in Europe,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: so they start cracking. I had my comedian friends, I say, hey,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: did you see this new You know Will Smithson had
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: that house on his head one time. There's a picture
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: of Will Smith's did you see. I'm like, dude, oh, yeah.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: The only up because I had to pee. Dude, what
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: is this about? And so I had to I have
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: to turn off my my phone all the way off,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: like right now, dude. My phone is never because during
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: the show, people will send me videos and to beep beep,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: and I can't even have a conversation, you know what
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I mean. So I I have to parse all those
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: in my own way. Yes, So this research has just
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: become a fascination of yours because the research and what
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: you're doing and what you planing doing is a culmination
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: of the gifts that you were naturally given or have
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: or hoard the wording, the wording you choose to use,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: and you're trying to funnel that into an understanding of
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: the reality that most people choose not to accept. Don't
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: want to accept or afraid to admit is real, or
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: afraid to admit that just about anything else. I I
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: love it. I love it. There's a there's a part
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: of me that because my you know, my my, my,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: my girl, my woman girl, whatever girlfriend my woman is.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: She's Catholic. She goes, Tom, I'm gonna have a preacher
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: comer and bless the house. Are you going to be here?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I go, I don't want to be here, you know
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: what I mean? She goes, but I want you to
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: be here. She's like, but I want you to be here.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, God, damn it. Well I'm not even Christian.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: She goes, I know, but it means something to me, like, Okay,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: it's just like the wedding thing, like, you know, come
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to this wedding. I don't know these people. Yeah, my
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: wife as so. Yeah, I was atheist. I'm not atheists now, dude,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I was an atheist. It's just that you know people,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: you know, when you get married, your close friends definitely
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: want to come to your wedding. Okay, that's fine. Yeah,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: but those people that they're bringing with them, unless you're
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: they they might go there because they're sweet. But I'm
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: a sweet person who I just I don't know you
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: that much, and especially to the other day, it was
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: what was it ship? Well, we had one hundred and
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: four degrees and she's like, oh, put on these long pants,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: stress shoes and ship and let's go out there. And uh.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: An hour later, I'm completely soaked through sweat. I mean,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, like this dude like this, and I'm like, uh,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I'm out of here. Baby. She's like, what's wrong with you?
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, dude, you're sweating too, damn it, Like
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: your your your makeup and lipsticks melnting off your face?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: What do you think is happening to me down below?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: There's no makeup? Then showing me folks you know, yes, yes,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: every time every time I walk when I worked in
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: the roofs here, man, like I'll be out there working
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: and uh, the the Mexican people look at me, like
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: look at this crazy motherfucker up there. And the Mexican
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: dudes like they put like a shirt over their head.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean to keep this on, yes,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: long sleeve shirt, because I can't do that. I will
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: be dead at this month. I don't know how to
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: do it. They're they're incredible.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: And we're at one o two out here and we're
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: installing signs in La. Oh all right there at like
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: five thirty or six o'clock because it's cooler, right, So yeah,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: it's it's we've been to La a lot lately, news
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: signs and stuff like that, just to install. But yeah,
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: one o two and we were feeling it and that
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: was eleven and I think we were there till almost
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: one and then you've got an hour drive on the freeway.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so you're But the thing is that people
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: don't realize is like, I've never been to La and
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I don't intend on going. Oh yeah, it's just not
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: my thing. I don't like big cities.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Smart.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here in the freaking jungle, dude. So it's
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: one of four in the humidities eighty Yeah. I mean
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: the fly is just stick to you, bro. You just
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: you come back looking like a looking like an air
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: filter from the carrier. Man. There you go, look at it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Look at me. Yeah, I can bring stuff back. Look
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: at that I've got I go through yeah, man, yeah,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I mean I So when people come over to your podcast,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: what did they what are they going to see? Man?
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: You're interviewing people. How'ses houses working?
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we've we've we've had some really great people,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: you know, Darryl like you had said Darryl, and we've
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: had Martin.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Mike is another guy.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he really doesn't.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Do Bruce Brown. Didn't you didn't you have them Bruce Brown?
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had Bruce Brown.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was another one that was just go check out, Daniels.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: And when you go check out, I got I got
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I think three episodes of Bruce Brown. He's just like, yeah,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: he's got he's got his American flag behind him now
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: and his copy uniform and his retired copy. Yeah. He's like, yeah, man,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: this is what I saw. And it's so straight the
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: wreckt and and oh yeah, it's so nonchalant because you know,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: being like a paramedic you see and everything, and a
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: police officer for got exactly. And so he's just like,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, dude, yeah, I've seen him. I've seen a
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: big foot one time of police. What was it when
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: the police it was a bus driver who uh call
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: talked to the school board or whatever, the principal to
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: school and said, yeah, every morning at this time around
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: this time when I pick up the kids at this
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: bus stop. There's a freaking bear that walk runs across
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: the road, and I don't want the kids to have issues,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: so they called the police to go out there and
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: look at it. He goes, yeah, man, it was there
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: was a it was a sasquatch. I've seen it, dude.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: You're just like, well, one time he got called to
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: a location where somebody hit one hit a big foot. Yeah,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: he's seen it. The guy was in the car. The
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: car is all mangled. The guy's okay, He's just like,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: what did I see? He goes over. This thing is
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: twenty feet off the road. Both broth the both legs
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: are broken at the shins. This thing on the ground
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: just kind of all messed up. Men in black show up,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: blacked out windows. There's nothing more to see here, gets
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: he has to leave. He goes like two weeks later
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: to go back and check the police report, just to
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: make sure everything's right. No report, no nothing, nothing, And
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: he couldn't forward until now because he's retired. He I
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: think it was the second show he was on, was
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: this one or mine? Excuse me? Yeah?
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I think he was well, he had done one with
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Darryl and Ron Moorehead and that's where I had I'd
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: seen him and.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I yes, and that was yeah, I had it before
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll remember that.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: There's so many people out there that that a lot
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: of podcasters.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: I won't even bother try, you know.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I had doctor Shine and I saw his name on
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: what was it Beyond Skinwalker ranch and it was.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: A Bradshaw Ranch.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy that has done after the skin Walker
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: are out there, and I saw his name and I thought, hey,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: that'd be kind of cool to have him on a podcast.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: I sent it to him, uh, messaged him about an hour,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: said I can't do it right now, but I can
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: do it then, and they gave me this dating that's sold.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: And just the coolest guy.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, he knows the UFOs, he knows paran normally
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: no cryptids.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: I mean he's he's got it all.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. I know how I got a hold
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: of Randy Bauer. Randy Bauer's the Skinwalker rancher to the North.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: It's in Minnesota. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, he's
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: a powerlifter. He just shout out, Randy, he fucking won
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: his division. Bro got back and did I think three months,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: lost a bunch of weight, some shiit, some craziness, and
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: won and again like a sixty something. The dude is
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: a fucking machine. Yeah, he's up in age, the coolest
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: guy you ever meet. And he's like, hey, uh yeah, yeah,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I had over a Dug kntchuck from the Monster West.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: And you want to talk to him, I'll tell him.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking Doug Knt check comes on. Because and
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: now this dude's that were doing powerlifting like the people
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: you meet man, and doing what we do. Right, A
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: lot of people think it's a bunch of like, you know,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: because of the demographics of the United States, we have
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who are basically Southern guys. You know,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: like what the word is rednecks, which is an actual
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: freedom fighter. Look up the Battle of Blair Mountain if
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: you want to know what that really means. Uh yeah,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: what a redneck really means. The freedom fighters against a
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: basically a company that like a coal mining company, and
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, you can only buy stuff at
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: this our store, which so they gave you instead of money,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: to give you a script, right this money then you
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: would so if you worked for free, they freaking storm
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: the mountains with their World War One rifles because back
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: then you can bring them home with you, and they
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: wore so they were so they actually had a fight
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: with a company they brought in like mercenaries to fight
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: against the people. The people fall against them, and they
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: wore red scarves around their necks that they can differentiate
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: between them as they stormed the company up on top
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: of the mountain. That's where Ready came from. But these people,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: so when people hear people talk that way, they automatically
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: want to assume that they're not as intelligent as the
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: rest of us, which is some kind of weird racial
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: cultural thing that we have in America. But these people
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: as of the earth, and it's awesome and they're great
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Americana pure dude. I love it.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, You've got So it's just been
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: really cool knowing all these people, kind of getting to
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: know how, you know, being able to you talk with
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: them and ask them questions and whatnot.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: I'm still waiting for my neck and back surgery.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: So I just got the I just got the the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: v A to actually finally give me the thumbs up
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: on some disability. Dude. It took me three years. I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: follow him for three years, and we're going to see
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: how much this part. For this part, remember I was
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: telling you about the yeah a little bit, as a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: little bit as from the little messed up Oh yeah,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: where are you at Army? Where you at? No?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: No, no, I didn't serve. I'm sorry.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: No, I've got peacha from the Oh yeah, yeah, of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: course brother. Oh I thought you were Oh yeah, dude,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: of course brother. You know, but imagine imagine being in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: a place where there's bunkers right outside next to a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: pizza hut or a burger king, and then across the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: way they're blowing up munitions that they found when they're
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: doing with their mind sweeping and stuff. So to be
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: in the middle of night trying to sleep, like, fuck
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: is it now? You want to run out of the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: thing that's I did not know it has affected me
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: the way it did until like a few years after
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: leaving the service. I'm like, wait a minute, something is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: fucking wrong with me, dude.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm coming back different.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it, dude. And being you know, in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: a German system, you you know, you have healthcare. So
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I just went that way. And then when I got
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: to Mexico. I was like, Okay, you know, I still
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: need to go see people and talk to people. And
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: my friend, who is an army that he was like,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: why don't you fucking contact the VA And I was like,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I never even considered that. And I finally also found
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: out that I got my uh what they call an
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: honorable discharge. I didn't I've been waiting for that information
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: for twenty years. I did not know I had it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: So that made me cry a little bit. I'll admit it.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I don't Cary. I'm I'm a man.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: It's a good chunky life too.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: It's a long time man to sit there and just
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: be like I just want to you know, like when
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: you when you do something like you know, like I'll say,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the world, man, doing what you did, Man,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: we appreciate that, bro. You know what I mean. It's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: child man. It's a hard job. Bro. It was.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: It was tough, and it was mostly kids. That's that's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: what really got me. Yeah, it is, you know, and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's having something different, yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: And I worked at King Drew Hospital too, which is
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: right there and Compton, and we had a fourteen year
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: old kid that shot in another kid and yeah, if
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: that yeah, if that child didn't pass, you're not in
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: the gang.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, God damn it, dude, there's a there's a thing, man,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: we gotta we got to go back to common sense
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: in this in in in the world and just make
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: her too good for everything else. No, it's a thing, eximp,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: there's a thing of like when there's too many people
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: together in the city and people start losing their value.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: It's not like a small community. We got the big comunity.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: So people are just like something that's in the way.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: And I got to go somewhere and we had we
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: got to get past that that line or that that
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: way of thinking and get back in the woods and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: look for Cryptis. Man. I really appreciate that you came
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: on today. Man, we're gonna get go into his channel. Guys,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: as you can see, is one of the sweetest, most
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: kindness realist person in the world, always everybody else except
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: for himself. When he first started a podcast, I don't
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: like the I enjoy the I enjoy the nobody kind
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: of thing. But at the same time, you are somebody,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and I really appreciate that you came on the show. Man.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: I'm happy to be on here man. In fact, like
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I'd love to have you on again. We had so
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: much fun that night.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like had a couple of beers.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Podcast is So it was kind of cool to with
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: all your topics and all stuff that I learned.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: It was really cool.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: One we're time man. Where where where can people find you? Man?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Where can they find the podcast? Where can they find
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the Crypti Wrangler? Dude?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: The Crypto Wrangler podcast is our first. It's Friday nights.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: We do it at.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Five o'clock. We're having Jason Kenzie on another great.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's from Australia, right, uh, British Columbia.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: His show is all over the all over the world.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: So and the Crypted Wrangler. If you start there.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: You'll be able to find all the other Wrangler channels
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: after that. If you just look up Wrangler, all of
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: it pops up. And we got five different groups now.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a lot of fun.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: I got a book that I went back to working on.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah from.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, son of sephle Is dog Man, but it's been
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: around between seven to ten thousand years.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm kind of hoping that when you do
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: go my friend you have a bible. Yeah. I just
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: had someone who, uh she's a she's a paranormal writer,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: and she was talking about how she think that it
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: was a Cane. She thinks that Kane is the original
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: vampire and that it was done by when the markt
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Kane when he went out into remember he got sent
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: out with the market Kane. Yeah, protect him. She's like,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: against who, there's nobody out there and she thinks it
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: was Lilith.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah that was that one dude, that's check it out, guys,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: it was two or three back. Yeah, it's creepy stuff, man,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: but this is our world, you know. I got buddies
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: that say, what the hell are you doing? You know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: document but this stuff doesn't exist. And I said, well
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: won't you come out to the Black Star Canyon for
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: a night.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Well no, well why not? I don't know what's out there?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, then shut up, Yeah either do we.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: But we think there's this out there exactly know what's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: out there? We know, we know we don't know what's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: out there that night. We know it's there, but either
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: do we And there might be some variation or something,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: some new information that we put into the into the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I guess you would say, into the into the community
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: or into the ether, and which people can say, I've
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: had that too, and make these connections and not yeah,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: and and and try to expand our knowledge upon something
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: that science is like that doesn't exist because it's not
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: in my textbook over here?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Did you see that professor never said anything about him,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: so they're really not real.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't on TV. Therefore McDonald's doesn't have
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: a clown, you know. Come on, dude, you know, Oh, dude, dude, Volkswagen.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: That was connected, Bro, that V and W was connected
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid. Ed McMahon did do that
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: the publishers clearing house. Yeah, eighteen van was black with
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: a red stripe, not silver and black with a red
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: stripe in between. I'm sorry, bro, I you're.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, definitely, and now had them sixteen's but they're
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: all like chroned out.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It is such a silly show, but I love them. Man. Uh,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: this has been fantastic and your show guy? All right, perfect? Thanks, guys,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: appreciate it.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Ask me questions everybody else in the world does, so
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I'll answer them fair enough.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: We are the eyes, we are aware.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I love you all and have yourself a wonderful day, night,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: or wherever you're watching this podcast,