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Barbara about Bowl Bangor management fantasy hockey
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podcast. Whoa, whoa, woo.
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One of the three of us are are really happy right now.
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It's it's tough to do this. There you go.
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You're not watching on YouTube. You should be because that was
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hilarious. Kevin.
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Ohhh. Welcome into Bangor Management,
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The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and your League of
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Record season, Sorry, Playoffs winner.
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Kevin, how do you feel right now?
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A big sense of relief, mostly. And.
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And, yeah, some some excitement. It feels good, yeah.
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That's it. Yeah, honestly.
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I mean. Honestly.
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I thought, I thought I'd be more excited than I was, but it was
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honestly like, I don't know, it was a really good feeling.
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Like Sunday I was having a meltdown because it started
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literally the worst way possible.
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And and then at night, like my guys ended up going off, which
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was supposed to happen, but it wasn't that.
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Crazy Will Cooley. Just insane.
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We're cool. The sixth round pick that turned
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out to be first. Pick of the.
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Draft. Yeah.
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Literally Cool. Yeah.
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Project finally did well. Like he was literally one of my
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worst players for weeks. Brady actually had a great game.
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All the guys that picked up went off Taylor Hall, Connor Brown,
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Ricard Raquel's the GOAT. He was probably MVP of the
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playoff. Worst.
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Yeah, he beat me in the finals, if that wasn't clear.
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Everybody knows people have been asking the discord how did the
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League of Record goes record go. Now me and Jake are two
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squidwards in the window and it's just.
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Like I'm just there on my own. Literally.
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Literally. Yeah, hard fought battle, great
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season. Yeah, you know, they say you
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never forget your first, but I think my favorite was my my
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third of the three people. But you know, maybe.
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It was I got two more, two more years ahead of me to try to get
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there. You beat me.
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You beat me your first year and your third year, right?
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Yeah, and I beat Kevin the second year.
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Yes, he did. And then the years that he beat
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you in the final to beat me in the semis.
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So yeah. Like I'm gonna say is your path
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to the finals, both of you did not have to go through me.
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I'm still I've never lost either of you in the playoffs.
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Yes, this is major cope because I did the worst out of the three
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of us this year. But you know what?
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You gotta take what you can get, so.
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You gotta play who's in front of you.
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That's all I'm gonna say. And yeah, it's just this was
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this was. I will say though, like not
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taking away from previous championships, but I think this
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was the hardest year overall. Like every, every, every year is
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its own little old vacuum. It's all context and everything.
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This is Kevin being like, if you adjust for the goals, Gretzky is
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not actually that good. You wanted the Gretzky era, I
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wanted the McDavid era. I'm just saying.
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OK, you know what? I don't know, conversion is 3 to
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one. Got the cups though.
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It was competitive, it was a very competitive.
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Yeah. Deal with a crazy amount of
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injuries to start. Yeah, that's they weren't.
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Yeah, you you were like teetering as a non playoff team
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for a while. I was basically punted the
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regular season in like week 6. They realized that you held on
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to Zach Benson for like a month while he was.
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Injured. Yeah, that doesn't make up like
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5 other injuries I had with Brady Trojak, Josh Norris.
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That's what I'm. Saying you were at that point,
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you were so injured that you were like, screw it, another
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injury. I'm just gonna hold on to him
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off the chance that he becomes something because my team is
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gonna lose every week anyways. So Benson had.
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Two weeks and he was a point per game player and then.
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Yeah. And he was day to.
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Day for two. Weeks, by the way, also wasn't
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like he's out for multiple weeks.
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I'm just gonna hold him. Yeah, it was the Rupa Hints
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classic of data data into outside today.
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But I will say, like I told you at the time, you know, I was
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like, it's way better to get those injuries early on in the
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season than right before the playoffs.
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Yeah. So it's but either way, it was a
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it was a huge comeback and it was a great, great season.
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It's just a testimony to like, you're never out of it.
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For sure, yeah. My story got into the finals.
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I was. Crazy.
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I made it by two points. Basically Skin of your teeth 2.
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Points. Yeah, 2 points, one category.
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I beat the 1st place team, the 2nd place team and then then
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Sunday happened and I lost the 5th place team.
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But you, you also like you had to overcome a lot of it.
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There was tough. It was honestly, I don't want to
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toot my own horn too much, but I.
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Not only the hardest year to win, but.
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The best ever do it. No, but I think honestly, every
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move I made in the playoffs was like the optimal move.
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I think it was like from who I decided to pick up, who decided
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to drop, when I decided to pick up, when I decided to drop.
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And like, I rolled with Jed Grieves as my only goalie for
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for two weeks for in the quarters and in the semis.
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And I mean, that's like risky AF.
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Columbus wasn't even that good. No people pretty.
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Good during the playoffs like they were like on like A5 game
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losing streak and like still I still made it work.
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I will say, as I keep saying, my biggest take away from this
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season is I will never draft a goalie again.
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And I'm very excited for that because there's nothing worse
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than drafting goalie highly and then they disappoint you.
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So the honestly, like this is a testament to, I feel like every
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year, every league always experiences this where the team
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in the finals, like the top three team is always like 0G
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teams. It's like that guy who ended up
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building a really good squad and then picked up Jet Grieves or
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picked up whoever. Else you and value you and Jakey
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combined left the draft with one healthy goalie Yeah between
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between like you could you had like you can hold like 3 goalies
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in our league right, So 6 available goalies spots.
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The two of your teams combined had one healthy goalie and then
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you made the finals. What am I gonna drop, Wedgewood?
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Yeah. Wedgwood was not drafted and he
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has the best save percentage of any goalie this season.
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Yeah, that. Was the goalie I left the draft
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with ended up on your team in the finals?
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Not healthy. Yeah, what a story.
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But she loves, she loves. Really turned it up as well
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that. Last year.
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But would have made a difference but.
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Still, I think it would have made a difference.
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Not no, no. Well, no, not because of how
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everything else went, but emotionally, probably, yeah.
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That was also one of the reasons why I went.
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She lost because they had the the both Pittsburgh goalies were
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available on on the waiver. So I knew that if I picked up
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She Loves and he didn't play, I'd be able to pick up Skinner
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when I did it. And I did pick up Skinner and
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then She loves ended up playing both, but felt like I wasted,
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which I thought was gonna cost me to be honest, because how
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everything else was so close. But yeah, no, in Indiana it was
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it was wild. And I still think back to the
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semis. Like so many things could have
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gone different. Like if you if if you're if some
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of the some guy that didn't make the playoffs made one different
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pickup, you would have made the playoffs.
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You would have made the finals. If trigger 0 doesn't score in
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overtime, like I'm not in the finals.
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Yeah. True.
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If your opponent in the quarterfinals doesn't pick up
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Dylan Larkin, you lost by 1. You won by one category.
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They just needed to tie up a category because they had
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tiebreaker on you. Only didn't make a pick up
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earlier because I knew he picked up Larkin and I knew he only had
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one ad left. So if he hadn't picked up Larkin
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had two hours left. I would have played it
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differently too. But.
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Yeah, but the fact that even having this conversation just
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goes to show you how close it is.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's why everything was
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like had to be super meticulous and.
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Planned surely wasn't on steroids and maybe literally
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always, you know, like. Times you can plan like crazy
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and have the best team and then it just pops the better your
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your opponent just goes off. There's really nothing you can
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do like. Yeah, Leon Draisaitl didn't have
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a personal vendetta against me then.
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You know, maybe things would be different.
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I was in another league that was so deep and I was convinced I
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had the best team and I got eliminated in the corner finals
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by one goal. And then I looked at my other
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matchups. I would have won the final 100IN
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categories. Like it's just, it's it's crazy.
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Yeah. And the same as I would have won
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as well. And the quarter that lost by one
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category, which was one goal, Yeah.
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My team just ended up not showing up and they got a shout
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out that week and it ended up being like the difference maker.
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So it's crazy. Like, you know, you can be
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Juggernaut and then it doesn't even matter because Anthony
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Sorelli goes off or whoever. Else next year I'm getting five
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first round picks. 4 wasn't enough.
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Well, actually I want. To tell you had five, no.
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No, I had McDavid, dry seidel pasta and celebrity.
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I'm counting as a first. Round he was the 1st.
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Dry, subtle pastel. OK, I guess.
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I guess Austin, because Austin technically was.
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And then you gave him to me. I mean at the same time like
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counting that I had for. Right.
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Do you, do you, do you regret your consolidation, Josh, or not
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really? Not even slightly.
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Not even. I mean, no, I mean, look, I got
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screwed by Driscoll getting injured the day before playoffs,
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same as last year. It's just crazy.
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Two years in a row he screwed me.
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But I feel like. That please into the risk factor
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though, right? Yeah.
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But like I don't put too much stock into that.
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You can view it in multiple ways.
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You can view it as like, oh, you consolidated, so you get hit
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harder when you have an injury, but also consolidated.
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So that's less chance of one of my guys I care about getting
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injured because fewer guys I care about the as much.
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So it really goes both ways. At the end of the day, injuries
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are injuries. Like you can't really plan
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around it other than, you know, if you hear Jack Hughes getting
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dinner that night, then maybe don't draft him.
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But like other than that, I'm not gonna like base my decisions
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on that honestly up like going into the playoffs, like
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throughout the whole season, I constantly had guys I wanted to
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pick up and I still had trouble deciding who to drop.
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And that was with me consolidating like a billion
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times. So there's always juicy guys on
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the wire and having that flexibility.
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I would do it again 10 out of 10 times.
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It's just also like, I mean, obviously it hurt because you
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had had bad playoff schedules because one off we can have it
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delivered to any player, right? But if you have like three other
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good players, it balances out. Then if you have like only one
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good player, one makes you good player and you have a slow week
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then. That's the thing though is like
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the dry side entry not only took out dry sidle, it took out
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McDavid for that week. Like he recalibrated literally
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the week after I got eliminated. But that week like was clearly
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like readjusting to drysol being out.
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He had a terrible week. So knocked out.
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Two of my guys passed out a great week.
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So that was one of my first rounders showed up and Selena is
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worst week of the season and then again went back on the
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battery eliminated. So like, it's just it's just
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crazy that like, you know, I had multiple of these guys on
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different teams and they stopped playing the same week and then
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immediately turned it on after. It really feels like there's a
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conspiracy against me. But you know, I'll put in my
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memoirs that no one will. Read Times.
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You guys don't understand. I hate losing so much like, you
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know, Shorty, like, you know, like that's that's me to to like
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like 4. I just I hate it so much.
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That's why I'm yeah, but I don't know.
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I got guys like I, I know. Everyone hates to.
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I know everyone hates to lose but like I just.
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It hurts me man. Anyways, I just.
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Yeah, you're still in a little bit of shock.
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You're like Frodo with the it's, it's done.
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You know, at the end of spoilers.
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Now what? But that's what like, what do I?
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What do I do now with all this energy and time?
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Yeah, it's, I mean, you could go back to Hobbiton and see how it.
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Goes for those boilers. So we see what Rosie cottons up
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to these days. Alright, today is our Week 24
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He's got the real sunglasses on. That's the lost in the
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Alright, let's let's get into our Week 24 news some some
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interesting things to talk about.
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I do wanna private though. You have to, yeah.
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That's no choice tradition. It's been honestly really cool
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seeing the the fantasy bragging channel in the discord is like
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everybody's posting about how they won their championships or
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somebody literally right before we recorded their in their
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finals as we speak in week 24. And his appointment was just
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like, dude, your team is just like unbeatable.
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Like where do I, where do I Venmo you your money?
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Because like there's no way I'm beating you this week.
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And it's it's like so early in the week too.
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So it's been really nice to see everybody take home the chips
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and we're happy that we were able to help a lot of you get
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there and learn a lot throughout the season and hopefully,
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hopefully guys stick around to go back-to-back next year.
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Yeah, unless you're in the league that I'm in, in which
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case, you know. And to be clear, I wasn't
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invited to that Channel. Well, I'm glad to hear people
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are having a good time, alright? Alright.
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Live into. The dealers.
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Yeah. All right, here's a big one.
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Patrick Hua was fired as the New York Islanders coach and
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replaced with Pete Deboer, who was immediately signed for four
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more years. Crazy.
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I thought the Bruce Cassidy firing with like a week left in
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the season was gonna be like the closest we ever saw coach get
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fired to the playoffs. And then the Islanders are like,
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hold my beer. Matthew Darsh is like, watch
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this. That's what we call a pro gamer
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move and and just snipe Patrick Wah.
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And yeah, I mean, look, Islanders were on A5 game losing
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streak, or I mean, still are because he hasn't.
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They haven't played yet since the coaching change.
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They dropped out of a playoff spot to Philly.
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Philly was going crazy. They're just like.
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Ahead Yeah, well, that's it. No, wild card is not a is not a
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thing for the for the metro division.
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That's where the Atlantic is just so much better.
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Like we've got both wild cards. Like, look, it's possible
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because Ottawa floundering, but you know what I mean.
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So, so yeah. So anyways, Islanders drop out
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of a playoff spot and they decide what they need to do to
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spark the team is replace the coach.
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I mean, I've been waiting all year for a pizza box or hiring.
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I don't know about you guys, but like he's been hovering, you've
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been lurking, you know, like those memes, like the wrestlers,
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like guy comes in with the steel chair out of nowhere.
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Yeah, exactly. That's like I've been feeling
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like Pete Deboer, like I keep hearing anytime someone coach
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got fired this year, like Bower gonna be replacement.
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No. So it's crazy that it happened
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this late in the season. Do you think this has any
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ramifications? Like I guess it's gonna be like
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4 games before the fantasy season ends.
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But like, does this make Islanders players more valuable
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like Barzal was we were talking about?
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And like, would you rathers last week or two weeks ago how Barzel
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was like pretty slow. Like are you interested now?
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Does it really change much or is it too late?
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Seasons really have much effect. Before we dive into the fantasy
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part of it, I just wanna like, do you get it?
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Like why? Like, I mean, is it really the
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five game losing streak? You think that that's what it
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is? It's the five game losing streak
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plus dropping out of a playoff spot.
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They're like we wanna make the playoffs this year.
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We're so close. We'll do.
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It's a random spark. It's a classic throw.
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And also like clearly they wanted Deboer because they
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signed into this four year contract, right?
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Like he was kind of like, you know how this big name free
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agents, he was like the big name fragging coach essentially.
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He's like the only coach that was available that was like a
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quote UN quote good coach. Yeah.
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I mean, he has his issues as well.
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I feel like it's common knowledge now that they're like
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Deborah has a timeline as well as like 3 years, you're good.
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And then after that anything else is.
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Honestly, water people like to talk about that, but like what
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coach doesn't like most coaches I feel like don't last more than
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three years. You know like I said, devour,
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these types of guys have this reputation.
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It's like you're gonna get 3 good years and then he's gone.
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You know, other coaches can't even say that for sure, so.
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I think that's why the Islanders move now, because this was to
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cement their future. They wanted the power not just
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for the playoffs now, but it's just like he puts probably puts
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their team in a better spot moving forward.
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And also like, I don't think like what had lost the dressing
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room or anything like that. I think the players like really
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loved him. I think it was just like they
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needed something to change for them.
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They can actually make the playoffs because Sorokin's
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having like the year of his life too.
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Like don't forget the what he's doing this season is is insane.
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And if they're going to waste that and not make the playoffs,
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it's gonna feel really bad, especially when they came so
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close. So I think it's not like they're
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so close. They have to do something.
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I feel bad for awhile because I think I should like, what with
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the team and like, he gave them a lot of stability when they
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were like, you know, really bad. Yeah.
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I hope he gets another job, but I feel like people won't just
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like come running for him, you know?
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I guess, I guess as
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far as the, you know, players and how they're gonna do, I
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don't know if it's going to be anything immediate.
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I mean, you can't, you can't expect.
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To sort of a sample size. Yeah, exactly.
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Your files right now. Yeah, like maybe he rejects the
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power play one or something, but I've mostly guys who he's gonna
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put on there are already rostered, right?
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It's going to be like, obviously Schaefer, Horvat, Barzel and
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then like maybe the other two guys, like, you know, get
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switched and that makes someone an interesting stream for the
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week. But you kind of have to wait and
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see for the practice lines for that.
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All right, let's go to the next one.
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Another, uh, personnel change. The New Jersey Devils fired
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their GM slash president of hockey OPS Tom Fitzgerald.
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They haven't replaced him yet, but I know a lot of people in
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the message boards and stuff online were clamoring for him to
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get fired. And then now that he got fired,
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I was reading about it more and some people were like, let's not
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forget all the good he did, even though he did a lot of bad.
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So I think his tenure was kinda like mixed.
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They definitely underperformed expectations.
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I think he made some kind of big boneheaded moves that cost them.
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I think a lot of it was like the contracts he signed.
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I think his trades were solid, but the contracts he signs were
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an issue. This you know, I don't really
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see it having much obviously nothing not no fantasy impact on
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the on the rest of this reason for next.
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Season would he do wrong though? Like that's the but I'm not, I'm
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not defending him like. A yeah, crazy like some of them
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like that I read. No, like I mean, I think it was
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like resigning Markstrom to A2 year 6,000,000 contract the day
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after he let in like 10 goals. He's like ancient is probably
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like it was it was that was a brutal murder.
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Yeah, I think signing this is what I've read online.
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People like saying like what some of the mistakes you made.
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They like people liked like the Cova savage trade, but then
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resigning him when they had such a logjam at defence was an
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issue. I think the whole the way he
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hands out no move clauses like candy.
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That's a big, big one that people have said about that
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whole Dougie Hamilton saga is because he gave him a no move
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clause and he was just saying with Pilot and then he like, you
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know, he let go of like Eric Hall of few years ago instead of
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getting rid of Pilot and just like some like moves like that.
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So I think he also made a lot of good moves.
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The big issue there because also New Jersey was known in recent
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years to have like one of the most overperforming D in terms
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of like money towards quality on the ice.
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Like they really had like your system.
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They want like an analytics perspective on it and like,
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found some real gems. They're like seeking dollar was
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really good and whatever. And then they kind of like went
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away from that. They let those guys go and they
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tried to make it work otherwise and it just didn't work.
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Yeah, maybe that's on him. Yeah, So I think like I mean, to
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be fair, like he did do a lot of good like their whole core right
19:18
of like like Hughes, Brad, he sure they're all signed to like
19:21
long term very reasonable contractor Brown.
19:23
So T-Mobile. You know, the ones that he wants
19:27
back. I don't know.
19:28
I don't even know. I think it was a good.
19:29
Travel wire has been nuts. Yeah, over the past two weeks.
19:33
Like even nuts. Yeah, I don't know.
19:36
What I would honestly wear this next year.
19:38
It's just that she gets drafted way too highly like, well, that
19:43
that's it. I mean his bangers are so good
19:44
yeah and like he's streaky enough but like, like he could
19:47
end. He'll easily end over .5 points
19:49
per game even without power play 1 and he could find.
19:51
Out so low though. I mean, you combine other over
19:53
three shots and like close to two hits and that's why you're
19:56
happy to have on your roster. It's just you're not happy to
19:58
have him for where he gets drafted every year because
20:00
everyone always like maybe this year he gets powerfully one.
20:02
Anyways, I've been there. A bit off topic there, but yeah,
20:05
so some interesting stuff. I honestly didn't expect to see
20:07
this kind of stuff happen this late in the season right before
20:09
playoffs, but it's all. Before social so close out of
20:12
draft. Yeah, that's true.
20:15
Maybe it's because they need they want time to to come up
20:17
with a plan, maybe come up with the find like the replacing
20:19
time. But it's it's kind of crazy.
20:21
Alright, let's dive into some injury updates.
20:24
So we have Kyle Mccarter, the Colorado Avalanche label
20:27
day-to-day, but they said he's gonna be out for a decent
20:30
amount. If I was a betting man, I would
20:32
say he's out until the playoffs. Devon Taves is taking his spot
20:35
on power play 1 ripped Assam Molinsky.
20:37
But yeah, this is I will say this is the only time you will
20:42
ever hear me tell you that Devon Taves is worth string.
20:45
He is my unless you're in a plus minus league, which if you are,
20:48
get out of that league. But he Devante should not be as
20:51
high rostered as he is every year is my biggest gripe every
20:54
year. And all that to say, he is worth
20:57
watching while my car is out because even though that power
20:59
play is all season ranked like one of the last in the league,
21:02
it's still in. It's been popping off a bit,
21:04
especially since they got Qadri. And look, it's not the
21:06
configuration I expected with Kadri and Nelson being the two
21:09
filling it out. Like did you ever expect there
21:11
to be a time going into the season that Landeskog, Nutrush
21:14
and Lenin would not be on power Play 1?
21:16
And they'd all be healthy, yeah. No.
21:18
And they'll be healthy. Yeah.
21:19
Like there's, you know, whatever the odds of that were, you know,
21:23
probably would have made a lot of money if you could if you bet
21:24
on that. So yeah, that does say I think I
21:27
like Devon Tapes as a pickup for for this last week if you have
21:30
the chance to grab him. You know, he actually has played
21:33
as an offensive defenseman. It's been a long time since he
21:36
played on the Islanders, but he was, he did play that role
21:39
there. So he could actually be really
21:40
good for you to close out the fantasy season.
21:42
I think he's he's high roster though, right?
21:45
So is he available? Who knows?
21:46
Yeah. But.
21:48
Yeah, it's one of those annoying ones where like, you see the
21:51
news and you rush to go pick the pick up and you realize someone
21:53
already rostered him for like, months.
21:54
And you're like, there's no reason this guy should have been
21:56
rostered for months, but now you're getting rewarded for your
21:59
terrible play. Anyways, we've had a few of
22:01
those few of those over the years.
22:03
Slash this year, so we all know it.
22:05
Anyway, let's go to the next one.
22:06
Brandon Hagel of the Tampa Bay Lightning day-to-day.
22:09
Oliver Bjorkstrand taking his spot on Power Play 1.
22:11
Brandon Hagel finally made it, carved the spot for himself on
22:14
power play 1. Is he gonna be a repeat
22:17
signature pick of Kevin's next season?
22:19
Because that was the that was the whole hypothesis, right?
22:22
Was if Brandon Hagel has power play when he is going to pop off
22:25
and he kind of did. You know, obviously this injury
22:27
was brutal timing for Jakey and for all Hagel owners.
22:30
But in retrospect and going into next season, seeing that he
22:34
actually had power play one, I'm much more interested.
22:37
I mean, he did he was my signature pick because I thought
22:40
he would get power play 1 and but we always said like even if
22:43
he doesn't get it, the floor is still so high within the floor
22:45
is over a point per game. And he did exactly what he did
22:48
last year. This year, same power play
22:51
averages as well. So he's just that guy and I
22:55
guess they just don't want him on the power play for some
22:56
reason, but it's. Towards the end of the season,
22:59
he has been. Yeah, and it was great.
23:02
So I think next year maybe they they roll with that.
23:04
We'll see if I wonder if they resign Darren Radish and keep
23:08
keep the power play. Into that that's that was one of
23:11
our mailbag questions. So oh, there we go.
23:12
We'll get into that on the on the next episode.
23:15
Are you guys picking up your stand for this week?
23:17
No, I'm never interested in forestry.
23:18
He's been a problem for most of the season.
23:20
Yeah, he sucks. He plays 10 minutes nightfall
23:23
also giving getting probably 1. Actually, yeah, they they really
23:27
didn't wanna give it to Hagel, and they had to because
23:29
Bjorkstrand was just not cutting it.
23:32
Didn't really get healthy scratch.
23:34
At some point trans literally like Neo in the matrix and he
23:38
dives and lodges and that's like him like dodging any relevant
23:41
like Nikita Kucherov is standing there possibly going to win like
23:44
the art Ross trophy getting ridiculous points and Bjork
23:46
trans like woohoo, let me stay out of your way, buddy.
23:48
You know like I don't even need a second, not even a secondary
23:51
assist. I don't even like touch the puck
23:53
like you do your thing. So that was.
23:55
Good, got one point in the last month, so there you.
23:58
Have it down. I could do better than you put
24:01
me in. Seriously, to be studied.
24:03
He was good. He was a good player.
24:05
At some point, this is just. Yeah, he's not doing well at
24:08
all. Yeah.
24:10
Yeah, I. Guess comes for us all, I guess.
24:13
Alright, let's go to the next line.
24:14
Cutter goatee of the Anaheim Ducks is day-to-day Troy Terry
24:18
taking span of power play 1. I mean, I feel like at this
24:21
point, like a lot of these ones are already owned.
24:23
Whatever I'm more interested in talking about like what do we
24:25
think about go to you for next year?
24:26
You know like what like what he's doing was unreal.
24:30
Like over the course of the season, like I'm very a guy who
24:32
can shoot with that volume is very rare.
24:35
I still don't think that his powerfully wants a lock going
24:38
into next year. I think he was bouncing on and
24:39
off it for for the whole season. So keeping that in mind, I still
24:43
am very interested because the show volume.
24:45
But but yeah, Troy Terry, always my boy, if you can grab him.
24:49
I love that. Are you picking Hagel or Gautier
24:52
higher next? Year Hagel.
24:53
Easy. Yeah.
24:55
Really. Yeah.
24:56
Easy. Easy.
24:57
Yeah. If Dottie was a cemented power
24:59
play 1, I think I could make the argument for Gotee because of
25:03
the short volume. Over like Cofield and.
25:08
That's not gonna happen Next. Year, no, what happened next
25:10
year, but this year it happened and you could have justified for
25:13
a long time. No, but I'm saying going into
25:15
next year, we have all this information, right?
25:17
Like, I mean, I was a cutter hater this year.
25:19
Like we didn't have the sample size.
25:21
I was just like, I don't, I don't believe like the few games
25:24
in the early season were enough to justify like, you know,
25:26
dropping big names for him. Then he ended up turning out to
25:28
be a beast for a while, Then he ended up being awful for a
25:30
while, and then now he's like kind of leveled out to where you
25:33
probably like. Young players, right?
25:35
Is the inconsistency and that's why you sell high?
25:40
In a bangle, yeah. I think it could be quite good.
25:44
I mean, I think Hagel, I feel like I'd also go Hegel there,
25:47
but I think Go to you could really be solid.
25:49
And where do you think fifth round, sixth round or higher or?
25:52
Lower 6th then you could end up having second or third round
25:55
value. So you take them over Will
25:56
Cooley, who drafted in the sixth round. 1st Sunday, I'll call you
26:00
from the past two days. Yeah, like.
26:04
Better go to your Travis Konecny next year.
26:08
Look, I think Goto's got a lot of upside, so I'll say that, but
26:11
connect me probably you gotta. Connect me just year in and year
26:14
out. I feel like it's just so solid.
26:15
You just .9 points per game with the power play with the
26:18
shorties. For the shots on goal from
26:21
Gautier, yeah, it's tough. It's definitely it reminds me
26:24
like going into this year, we were talking about where Kirill
26:27
Marchenko would be drafted because Marchenko the year
26:30
before, like last year, essentially, he kind of popped
26:33
off out of nowhere, right And had a great season.
26:35
We were like, we're gonna get drafted and in our league got
26:37
drafted exactly sixth round. Yeah.
26:38
And that's kind of what I see for Gotye next year, right?
26:40
Like 6 rounds like a spot where like this type of guy who had
26:43
like, you know, a really strong like part of the season, but not
26:45
necessarily the full season, kind of came out of nowhere, not
26:48
necessarily go to obviously was big prospect.
26:50
I mean came out of nowhere and he didn't hasn't done it before.
26:53
You know, I feel like round 6 is kind of like where you where you
26:55
slot those guys in. The thing the thing for me that
26:57
I'm worried about though, is that like Cutter this season is
26:59
at .9 points per game, 3.7 shots, which is just nuts crazy,
27:03
which is just nuts, right? Like he's he's he had a better
27:06
season than connecting connecting drafted in the fifth
27:07
round. Can he do like what's I filled
27:11
the all that he finishes less than .9 are way higher than the
27:14
odds of him getting to like a point per game.
27:15
Let's say you know, So it's just.
27:18
Interesting about the shots though honestly.
27:20
Like if he if he stays between .8 and .9 and can keep like a
27:23
3.53 point. Seven shots I love.
27:26
That, that's a fifth round pick. That's a fifth or fourth round
27:28
pick, to be honest. Yeah, exactly.
27:30
I think the Carlson and Gautier stack could be one of, if not
27:35
the best stacks next year. I.
27:37
Think the biggest issue they had was sorry, the biggest issue
27:41
they had was consistency, but go ahead.
27:43
I was just gonna say I feel like we're thinking about Will Smith
27:46
and celebrity probably more favorably because celebrities
27:48
such a beast. And I guess, I mean, we could
27:50
all agree we're probably taking Gautier higher than Will Smith,
27:53
but. Absolutely.
27:55
Average out. That feels like they could be
27:57
like a sick kind of under the radar, up and coming stack and
28:02
Carlson could be nuts. Like it could be the next Suzuki
28:05
call field. I have a great question for you
28:07
guys. Clayton Keller or Cutter?
28:10
Gotta next year? Clayton Keller was one of the
28:14
last picks in the third round this year for us.
28:17
What's that? You're looking at his stats
28:18
right now? What's the point at points per
28:21
game, right? Now Clayton Keller on the season
28:22
is at 1.03. Last season was at 1.11.
28:26
Shots at 2.8. It's tough.
28:31
Keller is definitely the safer bet.
28:32
I think I'm still going colour. I like the shots of Gautier so
28:36
I'm very swayed by that. I think I really love.
28:38
Shopping with 7 is so high. It's like it's an outlier, like
28:42
that's like that's huge. But the fact is, again, a lot of
28:46
this would be like if I'm starting to see if I'm seeing a
28:48
lot of practice reports that go to use power play one like
28:50
locked on in the offseason, that'll increase my view of him
28:54
a lot. But with how this season went
28:56
where they were bumping it around, they just have a lot of
28:58
good young talent, right? So it's not like there's a clear
29:00
five guys to put on that first unit.
29:03
Colour is the face of, you know, the mammoth.
29:05
I think they're only going to get better as well.
29:07
So I'm going to go with colour there.
29:09
There you go, everyone you see, It's not a would you rather
29:11
episode, but you still get here. Would you rathers?
29:13
Alright, let's go to the next one.
29:15
Matthew could Chuck of the Florida Panthers is day-to-day
29:18
because he had his first baby. So selfish Treinen is taking his
29:24
spot. Play one.
29:25
Look, not to be a conspiracy theorist or anything, but
29:28
contract must have known in the office about nine months, 9 1/2
29:33
months ago. He must have known that Panthers
29:36
were not making the playoffs this year because there's no way
29:38
this guy's having a baby around this time if they're going for a
29:40
playoff push. So look.
29:43
Expected to be like coasting at the top.
29:45
What exactly? What exactly did Barkoff get
29:48
injured? Was it more than nine month?
29:50
No. How long is?
29:50
This it was like a day after we came out with our season
29:53
rankings. Got hurt and then was like
29:56
alright well might as well. Happened, but I'm just saying
30:01
that's probably what happened. Lows.
30:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, this is the worst.
30:11
I hate when my players have babies.
30:15
I mean, yeah, I guess like I have no interest in Listerine in
30:19
here really at all. I mean, it's like you're gonna
30:22
take a flyer on a guide. I'm going from Mackie.
30:25
Yeah, I was gonna say he's the only like low owned guy on this.
30:29
Bar play that do you now we have a question though, because we're
30:33
recording this obviously Tuesday evening for the Wednesday
30:35
morning upload contacts missing the first game tonight are you
30:41
do you drop him for somebody else when you're like not sure
30:43
if he comes back or whatnot because I get the baby but
30:46
they're also out of the playoffs they have.
30:48
Nothing to play off. They're looking for a reason to
30:50
hold somebody out, like maybe spend some extra time with your
30:52
family, you know? I would be very surprised now
30:55
we've been making all these jokes.
30:57
But like Bennett did come back, you know, he didn't end up.
31:00
Going he refused the Disneyland. Maybe you could take it though.
31:06
So I, I think I like these players are gonna play if
31:10
they're healthy and like, you know, he is, he's not, he's not
31:15
injured. The thing though is the thing
31:17
though, is that like it's a road trip, right?
31:20
So he he did not fly to Montreal.
31:22
And then they also play on Thursday and Saturday.
31:25
It's also two away games in Ottawa and Toronto.
31:27
So like you could just have not making the trip and then only
31:32
playing the last two games of the season.
31:34
There are like Monday, Wednesday.
31:36
So that's why I think it's it's a valid question.
31:39
But dropping to Chuck is like. I don't know what.
31:42
If it's brutal, it's this becomes a point of like then
31:45
your opponent can get him more so than actually letting go.
31:49
But then you're gonna have to use an ad and if he doesn't
31:51
play, doesn't play. So I think it really depends who
31:55
you're picking up, right? Like if the guy you pick up.
31:58
Is like Bobby like man who's got 7 games this week?
32:02
I would, I would, I would drop contract for McMahon.
32:05
Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I'm pretty high on him,
32:09
but but like it's just, it's like you said, like he has 0
32:12
incentive to come back. Yes, the players are gonna play
32:14
like I was proven wrong. But it's his kneecaps are fine.
32:16
But you know, like Zito was not waiting behind the door to end
32:22
his season. But with like with the baby and
32:25
like the road trip, like it just makes a lot of sense for him to
32:27
just meet them back home for their next home game Monday,
32:30
Wednesday. And that point it's like, and
32:31
obviously this is all assuming you can't just toss them on IR
32:33
plus, right? Like this is like, do you hold
32:35
him as a dead roster spot? It's the finals.
32:37
You gotta do what you got to do. There's no more weeks after
32:41
this, you know, two games of good shot versus seven games.
32:42
McMahon. I'm taking 70.
32:44
James McMahon any day of the. Week, but it's just two to
32:46
potentially 4 games of contract. That's why.
32:49
Even four to seven how garbage the Panthers are like look, I.
32:54
Wouldn't play yesterday so it's like 4 to. 6 Fair.
32:57
Yeah, like obviously would do if he was healthy, but like with
33:00
the question marks, I don't think it's the craziest move.
33:03
Alright, let's keep going. Zach Hyman of the Edmonton
33:05
Oilers is day-to-day. Jack Roslovic taking his spot on
33:08
power play 1 the Oilers men they're they're saying they
33:12
recently mentioned that a dry saddle might not be ready for
33:14
first round of the playoffs. I hope he's not.
33:16
I hope only the worst for him. But yes, this is what I meant by
33:24
the way, by I'm a whole other level of crazy, OK?
33:29
The Oilers are top of the division right now, so.
33:32
It's crazy. I mean, tied with that division
33:34
is such a joke that it's honestly, it's the anti Atlantic
33:37
this year and it's it's a bit embarrassing honestly, the way
33:40
the playoff format is. The fact that one of those
33:43
garbage teams is making it to the Western Conference finals is
33:46
honestly a joke. It's an embarrassment to the
33:48
league and that men should be embarrassed that he's not even
33:50
considering changing the format. The last place team in the east,
33:55
so Ottawa at 90 points in the wild card would be a map of the
33:59
Pacific. You can go even lower than that.
34:02
You can go to like 3.3 teams out, you know it was like 8
34:05
points like. Washington would be Washington
34:08
would be tied for first. Yeah, that's crazy.
34:11
Washington just lost 81 to the Rangers.
34:14
The Rangers. OK.
34:18
Rangers and they would be the leading the Pacific Division.
34:21
Then one of those teams gets to walk to the Western Conference
34:24
finals. They get their little banner,
34:26
you know, like Nashville did when they made it to the
34:27
conference finals. Yeah.
34:28
And then they get to get smacked by whoever, whoever makes it out
34:31
of the other, the Central, like, yeah, no, it's it's a joke.
34:34
I mean terrible. I will say like these teams in
34:38
the Pacific have like super incentive that finished first
34:40
because second and third play each other.
34:43
So imagine and I'm finished his first, you get Edmonton and
34:45
Vegas round one. That would suck.
34:49
And then Anaheim, the fight, they were in first for so long
34:51
and now they're falling out of it and they're gonna end up
34:53
playing either, you know, Vegas or Edmonton.
34:55
Feels kind of nuts. I guess I'm just happy to be
34:58
there, to be honest. For sure, but honestly it feels
35:01
like everyone of these teams is very beatable.
35:03
Like I mean I'm very excited to see what John Tortorella can do
35:06
just because I think he's hilarious.
35:08
Not a fan of him in fantasy but in terms of just like.
35:10
I hope they get swept actually it would just be for the beef
35:12
would be perfect. No, I want to see some crazy
35:16
media stuff from from Tortorella, give them like A7
35:18
game series at least just to see what he can do.
35:20
But I think any team in that in that division is a joke.
35:24
Game one of those. Jack Eichel.
35:27
Only asked to see everybody's phone and he gets fired before
35:30
game one. No, he's not Babcock.
35:34
OHK. He's not that bad.
35:36
All right, let's, uh, let's keep going.
35:39
Stuart Skinner of the Pittsburgh Penguins is day-to-day artours
35:42
Shilov is the number one goalie, including playing back to backs
35:46
while he's out. I just saw that it Skinner said
35:49
that he dodged a big bullet. It didn't hit him like right in
35:51
the eye. He's vision's fine.
35:53
He should be back soon. Did you see my love?
35:55
She loves. I didn't see it.
35:58
No, I don't wanna play with black.
36:00
It was. It was.
36:01
It was. Barry, Yeah.
36:04
She loves got I did. I will say she looked out the
36:06
back-to-back because they didn't have the chance to call up a
36:08
mirror check in time. So they brought the other goalie
36:10
in who obviously wanted to throw into like his first initial game
36:13
on a back to. Back, But I already saw like,
36:15
they called it Marshall and then people are like, and then they
36:18
said it was just precautionary, but it's gonna be back.
36:21
Exactly. Yeah.
36:22
So nothing too much to read into here, but if you want some
36:25
guarantee start take Sheila. Who do you think the starter
36:27
going into you're playing one? Yeah, because she loves just had
36:31
a back-to-back great performances.
36:34
Yeah, it's like. He might be a jersey I buy.
36:39
No, you don't need to buy a record.
36:42
I actually had the Eric Carlson jersey in my car, but I didn't
36:45
pull the trigger. Oh my God.
36:48
Yeah, alright, somebody said you're going to.
36:51
But then I was like God grieves brought me so far and then like
36:53
let me down at the end by not. Playing, It's gotta be one of
36:56
the Pittsburgh guys for sure. The thing is, watching it from
36:58
the is it if you get a Carlson jersey, at least you're getting
37:02
a jersey of probably a four or a future Hall of Famer, right?
37:06
Yeah, that's. Fair.
37:07
You don't tell the future Hall of Famer.
37:10
Big Jet Greaves is not actually. Columbus just fun to watch and
37:15
he should be the starter for the foreseeable.
37:17
Future no shade to Jared Grieves, But like there's a,
37:19
there's a solid chance that it could turn into like a Mike
37:22
Condon jersey. You know what I mean?
37:26
Go to this way. I hope Jackie proves me wrong
37:29
cause I like him. He's yeah, he's like a really
37:31
solid goalie, but like it could happen.
37:34
Whereas Carlson, you know, it's, it's different.
37:36
Yeah, I'd go Carlson last one return, Yeah, return from
37:41
injury. Jake Sanderson came back and
37:44
obviously took back line on power play one it was, but then
37:47
he got a concussion. Then it was Jordan Spence, now
37:50
Sanderson's back, so he gets bumped off and they're saying
37:53
should come back soon. Obviously that doesn't have an
37:55
impact on fantasy Sanderson's back, but in terms of a possible
37:57
playoff push or playoff run, that's definitely nice for
38:00
Ottawa. But yeah, I mean, look, I think
38:03
one of the things that definitely helped with Kevin's
38:05
win this year is that everyone he traded away died.
38:09
So getting away from those injuries, which is crazy because
38:12
you already you had so many injuries and you would have had
38:15
so many more had you not made those trades, right?
38:17
Like Logan Cooley, Jake Sanderson, like it's it's crazy.
38:20
So I mean, look, you ended up acquiring Reinhart, who also was
38:23
out. So it kind of evens out in the
38:25
end. But yeah, anyways, look for
38:26
Sanderson owners. If you held on this long, then
38:28
you get him for. Even though, even though
38:30
Reinhart was like way better than all the guys that traded
38:32
away. Yeah, but even though I'm
38:35
pleased the other guy you know and.
38:38
In an epic turn of events, had had you gone with Cole Reinhart
38:42
instead of Sam Reinhart, you'd be pretty happy right now.
38:47
I should just walk right out for Reinhart.
38:49
The better Exactly. Yeah.
38:51
Exactly. You pretty much ended the season
38:54
with a well, yeah, No, actually he has not been that good to be
38:58
good two Game Boy streak. But yeah, I think it was a
39:02
healthy scratch in between. But anyway, probably not the
39:07
same as Sam and I'd say. Yeah, to cap off our final news
39:13
episode of the of the season. Pretty, pretty crazy.
39:17
But if you're in the Discord, check out.
39:19
I just posted a sick highlight of me last night so.
39:21
Did you actually? I did.
39:24
Not even see that. I just posted it right before we
39:27
got on it was it was actually a single.
39:31
I was like, I just like kind of like kind of like dumped it off
39:33
the boards and I just bolted got a breakaway.
39:36
I saw like no one was around me. So I kind of like slow down,
39:38
huge pump, fake back end. It was, it was real slick.
39:41
So we have about the well you can see for yourself, you know,
39:45
and everyone can too. That's what it's all about.
39:48
It's just me posting my highlights.
39:51
But as the news today, it's like, alright, we all think it's
39:56
gonna be Patrick. Well, it's like alright,
39:57
starting with Josh does insane deke on all this goalie.
40:03
OHS 19 year old. It's true.
40:07
It's true the entire league. Guys, did you guys lose again?
40:11
Yeah, but it was actually our closest game yet.
40:13
We lost 76. It was nuts.
40:15
It was, it was 7 five. Yeah, it was 75 with like 6
40:20
minutes ago. And that's when I scored my goal
40:21
to make it 76 and we pulled the goalie in like it was super
40:24
close. And to be fair.
40:26
I'm not actually type shows. Yeah, I'm not the type of guy to
40:30
blame the refs, especially in beer league because it's beer
40:33
league, whatever. But like the refs gifted them
40:35
the biggest offside goal, like right at the start of the game
40:39
and that would have changed the whole game.
40:40
And then just penalties while it was nuts like the other team,
40:42
like they got real chippy with us.
40:43
It's a non contact league and the refs just like they kept
40:46
calling like they're they would call the penalties on the other
40:49
team, but then they call it coinciding one like let's say
40:51
like I got like hooked like crazy and like fell or whatever,
40:54
and they would call like a hook and they would call me on like
40:58
laughing because my elbow accidentally like grazed someone
41:00
as I fell to the ice or something like that.
41:02
You know, like it was just, it was, it was the most ridiculous
41:04
rapping I've ever seen in. Breaking also Amish.
41:08
I think so. I think it was a rigged but
41:10
yeah. Spanish league just that's we're
41:13
not, We're not. Hating just not my team though,
41:16
not my team. My team is like we're all like
41:19
like it's all like 30s to 40s, like, you know, non Amish.
41:24
And then every other team is like 19 year old Amish and it's
41:27
nuts. They're all just like jacked
41:28
from working the farms. They're all 20 years younger and
41:31
it's, it's crazy. We were set up to fail.
41:33
I don't know how we ended up in this league, this.
41:34
Is no shade to the Amish, by the way, like we're we're impressed
41:37
by their hockey skills. Just say.
41:39
It's fine, Jackie, they can't listen to this.
41:44
Wait, is that true? I mean, it depends how strict
41:48
they are. They're supposed to use
41:49
technology, so. Imagine imagine you go into like
41:54
the next game and you're like walking to the dressing room and
41:56
someone just like shoulders you. It's like, I'm glad you lost in
42:00
the corner. See you on the because.
42:05
Honestly, I, I, yeah, that wouldn't be surprised.
42:09
Uh, this is, uh, this was a great one.
42:11
Congratulations again, Kevin. Clearly, clearly, it's gone to
42:15
your. Ohhhhh yeah.
42:18
Baby. Nice third times.
42:21
The thumbnail right there. One day I'll be rocking the
42:24
sunglasses. Maybe next year it'll be sweet.
42:26
And now that the Josh is potentially retiring, less
42:29
competition for you. Yeah, but but who are you gonna
42:32
fleeing their trade now? That's the question.
42:35
Yeah, seriously. Just who's gonna treat you?
42:37
Control take take your. Sunglasses off.
42:39
OK, love. Yeah.
42:44
Yeah, you're mean with sunglasses on.
42:49
You're not the same when you're hungry.
42:50
Alright, Ernie, take it away. But about Bound Bangor
42:55
Management Fantasy hockey podcast Whoa.
42:59
Woo. Josh, I heard you doing this you
43:04
valley earlier. Somebody called out on the
43:05
discord. You did a really good
43:06
impression. I know, I know, honestly, you
43:10
know, it was really good. Do do do do do do do do do do do
43:16
do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.