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Ian Furness 10/20 H2: Cougs Talking Cougs, Adam Silver spoke and we don't like it, plus the Daily Power Play with Bento! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Latest Seahawks injury news. Zach Charbonnet expected to have his
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  Speaker 2: first full week of practice since his injury. Anthony Bradford
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  Speaker 2: designated to return to practice yesterday as well. Seahawks hopeful
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  Speaker 2: both will play on Sunday night. Elijah Arroyo, he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be out for a while. Man, he was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be good this year.
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  Speaker 4: I know, but he hasn't been a factor at all. God,
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  Speaker 4: he was going to be good. Yeah, it's just been
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  Speaker 4: a nothing burger, man. I just don't get that at all.
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  Speaker 2: Terry McCorin carted off the field with what was feared
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  Speaker 2: to be a significant knee injury yesterday, and the Commanders
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I think I saw Dan Quinn said McLaurin is season-ending.
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  Speaker 3: He's season-ending knee injury.
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. Rays headed to the World Series. 7-3 win
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  Speaker 2: over Cleveland yesterday. Game one between the Rays and the
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  Speaker 2: Brewers is Friday at 5 in Milwaukee. I saw a
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  Speaker 2: thing that said, oh, we feel so bad for Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: They've never won the World Series, but they've been there.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: We haven't. Correct. We haven't been there.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. Haven't been. Haven't been. Confirm.
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  Speaker 4: We have not been to the World Series. Been close.
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  Speaker 5: Once.
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  Speaker 4: Let's not get into that.
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  Speaker 3: Just once.
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  Speaker 2: The text thread just blew up with that one. NBA
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  Speaker 2: regular season starts today. More on that later. Boy, we've
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  Speaker 2: got some great text coming in from the opening statement
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  Speaker 2: today as well, but let's get to it. Why the
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  Speaker 2: hell did it take so long for Owen Eshelman to
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  Speaker 2: be the quarterback of Washington? Husky fans are saying, why
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  Speaker 2: did it take so long for Elijah Brown?
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  Speaker 3: Right now.
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  Speaker 1: with the Cougar Legends.
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  Speaker 4: All right, here we go. Time for the Cougar Legends.
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  Speaker 4: Alex Brink.
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  Speaker 2: And Christo Bruce, first of all, Alex, my apologies. I
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  Speaker 2: misspelled your name in the group text, but that was.
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  Speaker 4: Alex. Yeah, that's the.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: It's the voice-to-text thing.
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  Speaker 4: It was in the car.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I think a spell, I think it, I think
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  Speaker 2: it just, it defaulted to my sister, uh.
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  Speaker 4: Which was I, you are the E.
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  Speaker 2: So my apologies. I got my vowels mixed up. The
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  Speaker 2: disrespect was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: Huh?
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  Speaker 3: And he put some respect on crazy.
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  Speaker 5: What if I, what if I told you this crazy stat?
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  Speaker 5: You probably don't know about me. Alex is not my
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  Speaker 5: first name. It's my middle name.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa.
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  Speaker 4: Whoa.
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  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 7: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 4: Do we want to go down the road of what
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  Speaker 4: the first name is?
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  Speaker 3: I'll just leave that out there. No, we're just going
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  Speaker 3: to leave it out there. His name's like Tobias or something.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's in Cristo.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's the annexation of Puerto Rico. We don't know. Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 4: All right, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: Boise State week, but obviously the big– this entire– Alex
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  Speaker 2: is living down in Oregon, and MK, you're back and
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  Speaker 2: forth between all points, including Maple Valley, but down in
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  Speaker 2: the areas all over the place. This state has a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback situation. The Seahawks have a quarterback situation.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: The Huskies are paying a guy $ 4. 5 million, and the
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  Speaker 2: guy that's his backup might be better, apparently, Elijah Brown.
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  Speaker 2: We gave a guy a truck, apparently, from Valley Buick GMC,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe that prevented a quarterback change. I know it didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Kirby said that yesterday. But maybe there isn't a quarterback situation.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to all those things in Boise State in
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  Speaker 2: a second. Let's just go with some opening thoughts after
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  Speaker 2: last week, watching the Beavs down there in Corvallis.
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  Speaker 4: Alex, fire away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think, I mean, to some degree is a step
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  Speaker 5: in the right direction and, you know, a few different ways,
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  Speaker 5: obviously it's still a loss and there's no, you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's no moral victories. So being one in six is,
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  Speaker 5: you know, not any, in any way, shape or form where,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Kirby Moore wanted to be in the staff
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  Speaker 5: and everybody. But, you know, again, like I talked about
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  Speaker 5: before this, the, the whole nature of where the landscape
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  Speaker 5: of college, I mean, Oregon's spending $ 40 million on a
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  Speaker 5: roster and barely being Nebraska, right? Like it's, it's a, it's,
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  Speaker 5: There's just layers to this. And so, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: saw improvement. Obviously, the quarterback position was a plus. I thought,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's good to see some receivers step up
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  Speaker 5: and make some plays. You know, I was a little surprised.
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, the Washington State defense is going
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  Speaker 5: to need to play their best football. And they probably
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  Speaker 5: didn't play their best, right, against a really high-powered offense.
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  Speaker 5: They played solid but gave up a couple of explosive
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  Speaker 5: plays that ultimately were, you know, big difference makers.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think the team, for what it's worth, can leave
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  Speaker 5: Corvallis feeling like they have some hope and some life.
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  Speaker 5: And the fan base feels like there's some hope and
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  Speaker 5: some life. And so those are all positives. But they've
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  Speaker 5: got to find a way to get some wins here
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  Speaker 5: down the stretch. And it's going to be tough, obviously,
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  Speaker 5: to start with Boise State.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's something that we've talked about too, Ian,
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  Speaker 8: was Washington State had to play lights out football. You
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  Speaker 8: have arguably the quote-unquote best receiver in college football right
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  Speaker 8: now at 5'4. you know going out there's actually stat
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  Speaker 8: monster right now but and we knew jesse was gonna
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  Speaker 8: and we knew he was gonna go off and do
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  Speaker 8: whatever right and he had some drops to where he
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  Speaker 8: could have done more right so washington state had to
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  Speaker 8: be one at its very best but to anybody to
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  Speaker 8: just point at the defense and be like oh we
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  Speaker 8: lost because the defense of this i want to be
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  Speaker 8: very clear oregon state has done that to everybody like
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  Speaker 8: they're a statistic giant like that's what they do so
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  Speaker 8: I think for Washington State, defensively, they needed to go.
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  Speaker 3: Over there and manage the game and not let it
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  Speaker 3: get out of hand.
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  Speaker 8: But we knew that we needed to score points and
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  Speaker 8: still redstone challenges or anything. The thing that excited me
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  Speaker 8: the most is this is the first time I swear
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  Speaker 8: we've seen a Washington State quarterback this year throw over
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  Speaker 8: 10 yards.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like, right?
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  Speaker 8: So to see a Russ Moon ball by Owen, you know,
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  Speaker 8: into the back of the end zone or just see
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  Speaker 8: taking a shot in general was a breath of fresh
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  Speaker 8: air because it's like, okay, we can work around that.
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  Speaker 8: But just not throwing the ball downfield or not pushing
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  Speaker 8: the envelope, that was frustrating to watch.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Owen Eshelman, first career start, 32 of 49, 289,
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  Speaker 2: two touchdowns, also ran for 136, second most by a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in history. Just second only to John Mateers, 197
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  Speaker 2: in 2024 against Texas Tech. The seventh 100-yard rushing game
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  Speaker 2: by a Cougar in quarterback. And going back, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know who the last guys were.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Mateer. Probably, God, Ed Blunt.
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  Speaker 3: How much did 10 have in the game? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Not that many.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say 10. No, it didn't have
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  Speaker 2: that many. All right, let's go. Let's just get QB 10,
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  Speaker 2: QB 1, our guy. Let's get your evaluation of Owen.
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  Speaker 3: Eshelman, Alex.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was really impressed for a young player on
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  Speaker 5: the road against, you know, a pretty good defense in
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  Speaker 5: Oregon State. You know, they show a lot of different fronts.
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  Speaker 5: They mix it up a little bit. You know, I
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  Speaker 5: got to, before we even start this, like, kudos to
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  Speaker 5: Kirby Moore. Like, he even, you know, another week of prep. Like, he,
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  Speaker 5: the play calling, the, you know, they got some plays in.
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  Speaker 5: The big touchdown to Ganisham Worthy was a new scheme
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  Speaker 5: with a, you know, kind of a new wrinkle that
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  Speaker 5: they executed on, on the big post throw. So, you know,
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  Speaker 5: saw some things play calling wise also that really helped, right?
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  Speaker 5: But Eshelman, you know, it took him maybe a quarter
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  Speaker 5: or so to get his feet underneath him a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: I think, and kind of get used to the speed
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  Speaker 5: of the game. But once he got it, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I thought he was, you know, really decisive. They did
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  Speaker 5: some things for him. You mentioned as much as he
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  Speaker 5: kind of scrambled and ran the ball, but They did
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  Speaker 5: some things to spread it out and give him the
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  Speaker 5: opportunity to either just throw a quick pass or run.
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  Speaker 5: And that effectively replaced your running game because Washington State
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  Speaker 5: still can't run the football, which is terrible. But I
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  Speaker 5: thought he did some really good decision-making there. And then, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the ability to throw the ball downfield, kind of over
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  Speaker 5: the middle, locate the ball behind linebackers. I thought he
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  Speaker 5: looked really poised in that regard. And the last thing
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  Speaker 5: I'll say is I just loved his competitive spirit all
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  Speaker 5: the way.
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  Speaker 3: To the end.
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  Speaker 5: Battle in you know and and again like we knew
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  Speaker 5: he was a competitor we'd heard about those things but
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  Speaker 5: you know i'm really impressed and proud of eshelman as
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  Speaker 5: just a redshirt freshman to step in and play as
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  Speaker 5: well as he did.
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  Speaker 8: Let's talk about the environment, guys. Alex, you and I
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  Speaker 8: have played at Oregon State. That chainsaw, every time, to
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  Speaker 8: this day, when I hear that stupid chainsaw, I want
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  Speaker 8: to slap somebody. I hate it. It's not a super
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  Speaker 8: easy place to play. And honestly, that's the most filled
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  Speaker 8: I've seen at State. I mean, those guys have that
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  Speaker 8: crowd and that community rocking right now. you know all
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  Speaker 8: it takes is winning someone asked me they're like you
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  Speaker 8: know what does washington state have to do to get
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  Speaker 8: the fans in the seats win win games so you
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  Speaker 8: see them score points win games that's why air raid
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  Speaker 8: is so uh important or or or people want to
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  Speaker 8: come see they want to see the razzle dazzle and
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  Speaker 8: the touchdown so they're giving them all of that and
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  Speaker 8: more so to have a young quarterback and essentially have
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  Speaker 8: one week to prep as a starter and then jump
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  Speaker 8: in there and play as well as he did. I
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  Speaker 8: think that's a bright future that the question is going
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  Speaker 8: to be is he's got film. He's got tape out there.
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  Speaker 8: Who's going to pay him to leave next year. That's
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  Speaker 8: the question we start asking in these, in these environments.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I, and I get that. I, you know, listen, he's,
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  Speaker 2: he's got one game on tape. The team's going to
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: end up with maybe what three wins or something. Who
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  Speaker 2: knows when it's all said and done. I mean, and
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  Speaker 2: certainly he could go or, or, You know, he can
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  Speaker 2: be told he's the guy. I guess my question is,
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  Speaker 2: because I just hate going down that road. I know
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying, MK. I know what you're saying. We
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  Speaker 2: all know what you're saying because the whole thing, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's every Oregon State fan is thinking about their two guys, right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Ocho Cinco put up a middle. Do you
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  Speaker 3: see that?
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  Speaker 2: What the heck is going on? Legree's got some announcement
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  Speaker 2: on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows?
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  Speaker 2: But, Alex, this is me being fan media guy, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll ask you and then MK jump in.
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  Speaker 4: What the hell took this so long?
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  Speaker 2: Like, like this is like, I mean, listen, based on
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  Speaker 2: one game, you can't make these over these crazy about,
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  Speaker 2: but based on one game, I don't think this team's
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  Speaker 2: one in six.
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  Speaker 4: If you, if you would have been playing earlier.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, like again, the, there, there was certainly a
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  Speaker 5: back and forth before the season where, you know, their
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  Speaker 5: guys were competing and, and like nobody puts it out.
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: a guy that's not the best option, right? If you're
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: a coach at any level, right? So clearly like Caden
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  Speaker 5: won the job out of camp, right? And you could
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  Speaker 5: argue like, you know, when you look at it, you
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  Speaker 5: got a 17 point lead or sorry, a three point lead,
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  Speaker 5: you know, against Arizona and you're, and you're playing good.
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  Speaker 3: You got a, you know, you got the lead at
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  Speaker 3: Utah state.
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  Speaker 5: You've, you know, you're in it against UW on the
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  Speaker 5: road and your first start, like, you know, there were
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  Speaker 5: some bad moments late in games that we all talked about, right.
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  Speaker 5: And some, and some other issues, but like, it wasn't
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  Speaker 5: so far gone in the moment that you would have
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  Speaker 5: sat him down. In my opinion, I think there's, I
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  Speaker 5: think you clearly made the decision after five weeks, he was,
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  Speaker 5: or yeah, five weeks, he was, Name the starter out
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  Speaker 5: of it.
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  Speaker 3: And then you made a decision, you know? And so
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  Speaker 3: you think about the inverse, right? Is like last year,
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy Rogers and that staff made a mistake.
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  Speaker 5: Right? Zeviak house should have been the starter over Jackson
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  Speaker 5: Potter out of camp. Right. Cause you can always kind of,
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  Speaker 5: you can always go from the older guy back to
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  Speaker 5: the younger guy and not really in, in the end
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  Speaker 5: they threw Jackson Potter to the wolves. He had, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he had some challenges and I don't think Jackson Potter
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  Speaker 5: is a bad player, but now all of a sudden
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  Speaker 5: he's out of the mix.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I think this is the way you kind of approach
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  Speaker 5: these situations. So, you know, hindsight is 2020. I get it.
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  Speaker 5: And I get the frustration, but you know, there's no
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  Speaker 5: guarantee that, you know, Washington state's, you know, whatever three
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  Speaker 5: and three or, or whatever, just cause you play all
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  Speaker 5: national men out of, out of camp.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think it's foreign to a
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  Speaker 8: stretch maybe, but I look back at that UW game.
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  Speaker 3: You have Owen in there. I think it's a totally
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: different game. Utah State.
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  Speaker 8: Utah state right but but same same thing i just
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  Speaker 8: i just think like we had no shot of scoring
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  Speaker 8: points i don't know whether it was just too much
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  Speaker 8: for pinnick or what but his decision making we saw
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  Speaker 8: early on wasn't there and then you essentially almost get
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  Speaker 8: your offensive coordinator fired uh for the same thing too
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  Speaker 8: so it's just you know as a head coach and
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  Speaker 8: as a new guy you're trying to prove yourself you
• 13:26
  Speaker 8: get this new roster and and i know we're giving
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  Speaker 8: him this excuse every single week but i think kirby's
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  Speaker 8: a good coach and i think he's he's he's taking
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  Speaker 8: what he has and he's trying to put everybody in
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  Speaker 8: the right position to be successful and there's a lot
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  Speaker 8: of moving parts but the best head coaches that's why
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  Speaker 8: they're so successful is because they put people in the
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  Speaker 8: best possible position to be the best they can be.
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  Speaker 2: The uh let me get back to kirby in a
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  Speaker 2: second that's them crystal bruce alex brink alex we go
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: back to just you both said something about decision making
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: and i think that has to be the hardest thing
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: with i mean because look alex you're training these quarterbacks
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: in the offseason you're with these guys A lot of
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: dudes can step back and rip it, right, and throw it.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: And a lot of guys can run fast and look
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: the part. I thought what you said was really interesting
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: because it felt that that was the case. Like, he
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: ran when he should have run, right? Like, he took
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: off when he should have. He saw the gaps. Alex,
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: how impressive was just the decision-making by Eshelman in that sentence?
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: Because that's, to me, kind of what jumped out.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Like not every decision was perfect, but like he's in
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: that environment, like you guys are talking about and under
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: siege and everything else, Alex, I mean, I think that
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: just kind of jumped off the page at me for
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: a guy getting his first start.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: Really good example is the fourth and one touchdown run, right?
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: Where he, you know, it's, it's, it's his own read.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: Like it's a quarterback kind of midline where, you know,
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: he's reading the defender that's right over the top, basically
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: of the, of the guard. And they're going to leave
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: that guy. And if that guy crashes down, he's going
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: to pull it, you know, the quarterback can pull. But
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: when I say that happens in the most bang, bang,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: like fastest moment, it is really hard to see.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: And so it's, All the time you see quarterbacks on,
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: you know, fourth and short, just handed to the back
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: because that's, you know, he's your running back.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: You think he's going to get there.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: So his decision-making in that moment to have the confidence
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: and record recognition to pull it. And then he makes the,
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: he obviously scores a touchdown. I thought that was really
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: impressive in a moment like that. Cause that's hard for
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: a young player, but yeah. you know, some of the
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: things with his scrambling, you know, he does a nice
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: job climbing up in the pocket and which, you know, then,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: you know, MK knows this, he's a defensive end, defensive
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: ends kind of run by you and you see those
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: running lanes or, or you open up passing lanes.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: So that was another thing. Good feel, you know, some
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: good feel there.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: You know, but I thought ultimately the, What impressed me
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: the most was his ability to move on more mid-range throws,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: be able to move off his first read, get to
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: his second read, and then still be able to locate
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: the football accurately most of the time. That, to me, again,
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: gives you a real hope that he's got a good
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: feel for the game. You mentioned we're using the term decision-making,
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: but again, he processes and understands the information.
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: A part that I was really excited about was stepping
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: up in the pocket. Like you were saying, I feel
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: like kind of the first few games, you know, it was,
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: you could see almost a panic with his, with his
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: body moving and you didn't know what he was thinking.
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: The thing about Owen, if you watch that really game,
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: you'd look at him. He looked comfortable back there, guys.
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: Like he was like, Hey, this is where I'm supposed
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: to be. I think how exciting for a young guy
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: to sit poised in the pocket. Like you were saying,
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: Alex stepping up in the pocket. Like 10, you can
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: tell everybody right now that can't be a comfortable situation
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: with all these.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: 300 pounders in the middle.
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: Let me put my body in front of them in
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: the lion's den and then still throw a ball downfield
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: because he was stepping on the pocket in and he
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: was still looking downfield through all of his progressions. Like
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: you gotta have some cojones to do that. And I
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: think that we were missing that with Penn.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Darius Clemens might be out this week, which would be,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you know, a tough one, a tough loss. Alex, what's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: your assessment of the receiving group? I mean, we know
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: that they've lost their guy. I mean, Freeman out is
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: just killer. I mean, it's just an absolute killer.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: We know that.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, you've got a lot of dudes. They
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: may end up playing a couple walk-ons this weekend. What's
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: your assessment of the receiving group? And is it quarterback-based,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: or can those guys be better for the quarterback?
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: I think they can be better for the quarterback. I
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: don't think it's a super strong group. If you remember,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: you lost coming out of the season. You retained Tony Freeman,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: which was great. But you lost a couple of young players,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Landon Wright and I'm spaced on the other young man's
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: name that left to go, you know, to take some
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: money when they hadn't even really played.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: And it was like it was almost a shock. You're like, oh,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: my goodness. Like these guys are I think Landon went
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: to Oklahoma. Maybe, you know, it was like a very,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: you know, the. The opportunities they got were big, which
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: is great for them. But I don't think Washington State
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: thought they would lose those guys. And they would have
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: really helped the depth in this room, right?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: For sure. And then Tony Freeman gets hurt. That was brutal.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: And I think the guys you brought in, you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Tank Hawkins was always going to be a little bit
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: of a project, kind of a gadget guy. And he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: going to get pushed into a lot more opportunity now
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: with Darius out because... Basically, Daniel Blood's going to have
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: to go outside and play the other outside receiver replacing Clemens.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: And then you've got Brandon Ganesh Amorthi. And that was
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: the biggest one for me is Ganesh Amorthi's got all
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: the tools in the world. track out of high school
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: and it felt like he was, he just, he wasn't
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: quite putting it all together.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Um, during, during the games, the first five or six weeks.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: And to see him, even in this game, he had
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: a couple of drops and it wasn't that early on.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden he caught that touchdown
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: pass and it was like, he just, the light bulb
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: went off. And so if he can really step up,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: I think Daniel blood's solid. Like he's not a game breaker. Um,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: and so I say all that to say, I don't
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: think that group is super strong. Um, there, and they
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: need to step up to help the quarterback, but it's,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: In the end, the worst problem for this offense is
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: that they can't run the football. You've got three backs
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: you retained. You've got a whole offensive line you retained.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: And if I begged them to get five yards on
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: a run, they couldn't do it. And that is a
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: huge issue in this offense because it limits you so
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: much with everything else you do.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I also think, though, too, I'd follow up
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: on that. You have three really good running backs, right?
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: Or we have three solid running backs, let's.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Just say, right?
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: Like, does it make any sense to put a Woods
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: in the slot or put a Voorhees in the slot
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: and help us out in that way to get the
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: ball in their hands more in open field?
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Like, is that something that can open things up, Alex? Yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: no doubt. And you've seen it with Maxwell Woods a
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Um, he's, they've mixed him up in the slot and stuff,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: but he, there's been moments too, where I don't know
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: that Maxwell Woods has played his best football. I think he,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: maybe he's trying to do a little too much when
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: he gets the ball in his hands. He's had a
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: couple of drops when he's been in the slot or
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: out of the backfield. And so, I think there's maybe
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: a trust factor there of like, is he able to
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: take on more of a workload?
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: The guy that I want to see get the ball
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: more is Leo Pulasi.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Like we saw two weeks ago against utah state thought
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: he had some good moments against oregon state i just
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: i don't know that leo gets enough touches based on
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: his skill set.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: But it's also it's also putting ourselves in a position
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: to get more touches and i think you know always
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: playing from behind or always playing for the position that
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: we're in, you know, as a, as a defense, you
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: can choose different fronts and everything to play just because
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: you know, they're going to have to pass more or
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: just things like that. It's just, we've got to get
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: to a point where you can score more or stretch
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: the field a little bit.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: So you can open up the run.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: MK, you and I were going back and forth.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I'll let you pump up the tires, the defense for
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: a second, Trent Bray, because everyone's worried they're going to
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: lose Trent Bray. And I told this, what I told
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that trend or Alex or MK, sorry, It was like,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you know, fans like, well, we're going to lose our
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: D coordinator. I mean, that's the world we live in
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: right now. Like anybody has any kind of success, coach, player,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: going to lose that guy. We're going to lose that guy.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, based on the tape from Saturday,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: they ain't losing Trent Bray, but you love Trent Bray.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: You like this defense. Fire away. Tell me how dumb
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Very, very.
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: And I love you, Ian, but I'm telling you right now,
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: if anybody sits here is going to think that this
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: guy's not going to get offered the creme de la
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: creme of jobs, he's taking the caliber of guys that
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: he has and no disrespect.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Washington State.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying he's taking these athletes and he's put
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: every single player in the best position to be the
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: best they could be, right? He's done such a great
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: job and everything is out there on film. We do
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: not have a bunch of five-star chip athletes out there
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: and they're still playing great defense. And I think Bray,
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: is he pretty much signed his ticket to go get
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: a bag. And I'm telling you right now, guys, because,
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: you know, a lot of people were pumped. They're like, oh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: my God, they put up, you know, Oregon State put
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: up this many points and blah, blah, blah. Guys, these
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: guys have been running around for their life the whole time.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, they're playing the highest statistic
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: team in the nation on top five on paper.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Like they're going to score points. They're going to get yards. Right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: So I think, you know, for Washington State to even
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: match up with that team, I think you did a
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: great job.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Uh, let's wrap it up with this.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: We got a Boise state coming into town, Alex. Uh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: this is about as good a test as you're going
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to get. Uh, although, I mean, at the end of
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the day, Wazoo's play teams. I mean, you know, Kansas
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: state and, and Arizona, Washington, God knows. I mean, listen,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Washington's better than their record. Like they, like just have
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: more talent than their record. I mean, they, whatever their
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: issues are. I mean, but you know, we can kind
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: of see glimpses of that along the way. So here
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: comes Boise state. I, I don't have any doubt that,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: especially with Eshelman now, Alex, that the Cougs can play
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: with these guys.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: What's it going to take to pull off a massive upset?
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's going to hang on the defense
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: again to really match up. Boise State leans into that
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: running game with Dylan Riley.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: And Sire Gaines.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: And Coug defense, to me, that's kind of their strength
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: is the front seven and the safety is the way
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: they tackle. So I think it could be a good
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: matchup in that regard. And the defense needs to, again,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: play their best football. One of the things that popped
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: up for me against Boise Oregon State was, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: the defenses nowadays, and I get it, but they kind
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: of get in these rotations where they rotate a lot
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: of guys like into the two and three deep at
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: certain positions. I get it at D-line where you're getting
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: banged up and you need it. But, you know, they
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: got in trouble last week rotating at the corner position.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: That's really where that big play happened. You got your
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: backup corner on the best receiver, one of the best
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: receivers in the country, and he just runs right by him.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: So I think, you know, they need to get the
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: best 11 on the field at all times against Boise
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: State and keep them there. And there can be a
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: little bit of rotation in the two deep, especially in
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: the front seven. But you need your best 11 on
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: the field if you're going to beat them. So the
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: defense has got to play solid. And then offensively, they've
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: got to find what the mix is to MK's point
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: about where do the explosive plays come from.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: They got one from Ganesh Mourthy last week.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: That was great. Obviously, Eshelman can use his legs. Does
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: a guy like Trey Lechner at the tight end position
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: show up now that he's healthier and stronger?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: So where do they find the explosives?
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Because they can move the ball on the Boise defense,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: but that team kind of chokes you out because of
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: their physical nature.
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm telling you right now, I watched the
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: Oregon-Boise game, and that defensive front for Boise, they get
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: after it. So I'm a little worried about how they
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: line up against this Washington State front. But offensively, they
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: put up 200 yards pass and another 200 on the
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: ground too. So that's... I think Washington State, if they
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: come to play, this is going to be a very
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: good game because Boise State is probably going to come
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: into this thinking they're going to beat the crap out
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: of Washington State. And Washington State loves being the underdog, right?
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: So I think, you know, there's something to say. And
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: Boise State is going to travel well. So you're probably
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: going to see a lot of blue in that Pullman Stadium.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm excited about it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: It's on your defense, MK.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Don't worry.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I'll be texting you Saturday night in between hockey games.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Blame your damn defense. Because that's what it's going to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: throw for three bills. And I'm going to be blaming
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the defense. And MK is going to be all he'd
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: be flying up and back to Maple Valley looking for me.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, I'm going to come straight for the mayor.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: All right, fellas, let's wrap it up. MK, we'll stay
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: with you. Let's let's get some house loans paid off.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Credit paid off. What are we going to do in here?
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: Guys, listen, man, if you're looking to either purchase a house, refinance,
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: access equity, whatever you need, mortgage-related, reach out to Team Bruce.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: And then also, if you want a gym, I've got
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: a really, really cool gym my wife and I own
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: over in Maple Valley.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: It's called the Buffalo Gym. Come check us out.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: All right. Alex, get me some shoes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, check out the shoes. Check out Osaka.com, O-S-A-G-A.com. It's
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: a fun project.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: My brother and I have been working on Revive, my
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: grandfather's shoe brand from the 1970s.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Retro, kind of runners, super comfortable.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: MK works out in them at the Buffalo gym, so
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: he can test how comfortable they are.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Osaga.com.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're a shoe guy, go check out that website.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: It's phenomenal. It's really cool. Some good stuff there along
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: the way. Guys, great stuff. We'll talk to you next week.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Go Cougs. Go Cougs.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: That's Alex.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: That's MK.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: We'll come back.
• 25:24
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• 25:59
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• 26:02
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• 26:03
  Speaker 4: A lot of text on that at 49451.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming we have a few more talkbacks to get
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: to as well. The gist of it was 6,684 days
• 26:18
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• 26:18
  Speaker 4: NBA left Seattle.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: We've got 12 different champions, 10 different MVPs during those
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: 18 years. And me, I'm done until they come back.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Officially done until they come back. Speaking of which... So
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Pat McAfee's show earlier today had Adam Silver on for
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the opening of the NBA season. Of course, he has
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: been a partner with the NBA and the NHL and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: the NFL. I think everybody except for Major League Baseball, right?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Pretty much, yep. Anyway, Adam Silver was on. I want
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you to carefully listen to what Adam Silver, the commissioner
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: of the NBA, has to say. And I'll preface it
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: by saying that he was asked about the future of
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the NBA as it relates to expansion. I'm not sure
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: who the gentleman was that asked the question. It was
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: not the guy that just sits there with a blank
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: look on his face, a former Ohio State linebacker.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: What's his name? Oh, AJ Hawk. The best gig in broadcasting.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: He really has it made.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: But the other person asked him was to say, what
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: about the expansion? Where are we going to be? I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: want you to listen very carefully to the words of
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Adam Silver in regards to expansion. Remember last week, We
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: heard about Mexico City maybe being involved. We've also been
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: told we're basically two years away, a couple years away.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Listen carefully.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: You know, we're still a few seasons away from the
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: actual expansion taking place. But as you said, you know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: we've been public about the fact that we're looking closely
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: at Las Vegas and Seattle. Las Vegas seems to have
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: an insatiable appetite for sports and entertainment. Several groups now
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: are thinking of even building a brand new arena. In town,
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: you know, which, you know, at least the presentation is
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: maybe the most spectacular arena ever. Seattle has a great arena.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: There's a great NBA tradition there. So we're looking closely
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: at returning to Seattle. You know, I've mentioned maybe down
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: the road, there's Mexico City. largest city in North America,
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: like a burgeoning, huge basketball base, fans in Mexico, large
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: Mexican-American population. So, you know, a bunch of different opportunities
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: out there. And, you know, discussions are ongoing about Las
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: Vegas and Seattle right now.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Again, he went on to say that Mexico City is
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: probably down the road. But did you catch what he said?
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I heard it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: What was it? A couple, a few seasons away. A
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: few seasons away.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: From even the start of expansion or however he said it.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Because this is the problem when he's vague like that. 28-29,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: which would be two years away, has been what the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: target has been and what I think has been told
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to people involved in the process. Now, maybe I'm just
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: looking too deep into this, but when he says a
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: few seasons away, certainly doesn't feel like there's any sense
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: of urgency. And a few is different than a couple,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: at least in most people's eyes, right?
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would think.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So are we talking 29-30?
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is the whole thing.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: This is why I say I just don't allow myself
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: to get excited because when they say, oh, we're hoping
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: to start at the 29th. season was what everybody assumed, right?
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Now it's a few seasons, which, yeah, 2029 or 30.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: And then what will it be?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Well, to me, the problem that would come into play here,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: there's twofold. One, do you want to shove somebody else
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: into the ownership group here? Why would you do that?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: They've already got a group. They've got plenty of money.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: just so you can jack up the price even more
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: for these greedy ass owners in the NBA. But Vegas,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the other thing that jumped out at me with what
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: he said, Vegas building. Like, got to get a building built.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: That's not happening in two years' time.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Definitely not.
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: Do they not know how long that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That's, at best, a two-and-a-half, three-year process.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: At best.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: At best. Probably mostly three right now.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: So... Are you going to wait for Vegas? Are you
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: going to put Vegas in a situation where they'll come
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: in after Seattle, basically the reverse of what happened with
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the NHL? I just didn't like, I didn't like a
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: few seasons away. I just felt like that just felt
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like there's no sense of urgency. They're going to take
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: their sweet ass time, figure out who the Vegas ownership
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: is going to be. I do like to the little
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Vegas has a sensational appetite for sports and entertainment.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Well, So does everybody. So does every city.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: It just feels like what they're going to keep doing
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: is they're going to keep moving the goalposts.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: They're going to say, well, we've got to get through
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: this first. We've got to get through this first.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Oh, now we've got to do this. And now we're
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: going to push it off a little bit because we've
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: got to do this.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I'm still pretty confident that 28-29 we're going to see it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: But when I hear them say something like that, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: then the building in Vegas that is cause for pause. Now,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: if a team in Vegas plays... A couple of years
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: in T-Mobile, that could certainly be the case. If they
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: need actually a new building, if it's not Bill Foley
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: who's going to get the team, then they could play.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: But then they've got to negotiate. Here's the thing.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: You have to negotiate a lease with a guy that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: didn't get the team. For a temporary lease, mind you. Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: How's that going to go?
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: It's probably going to go really great.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Probably not. Or you just wait until the building's built.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: And then you bring both teams in at.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: The same time.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: It's going to be a while.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Fun times.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: The captain, Network Central, joins us next.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Your daily look at the National Hockey League and the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Seattle Kraken with Ian Furness.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Daily Power Play, you're home for the Kraken. 93.3 KJFM, Esquahana, Kubota.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Big thanks to them. Kraken tonight taking on the Detroit
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Red Wings. Second meeting of the year, second and final
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: meeting of the year. And it'll be at 640, drop
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of the puck. Remember the earlier start now at Climate
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Pledge Arena. Doors open at 510. And when they open
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: at 510, if you get there early, enjoy $ 3 draft
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: beers and $ 3 hot dogs for the first 60 minutes
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: after the doors open at all Monday through Thursday games.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know about that until I read this
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the other day.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Lucky you, folks. Lucky you. Ian and I have to work.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: $ 3 draft beers.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: My goodness.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: What section are you in?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: 20th.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Come see Mikey in Section 20 with about four.
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: Or five of those $ 3 beers. The table is wide open.
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: Come on and.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Sit by me. Is this a third Jersey night?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: Backdrop right behind Lane Lambert. All ironclad with bold black.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Light blue.
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: He had the hoodie on, the hat on. Guys were
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: in their third Jersey buckets as well.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Let's go in. good times. I like $ 3 beers.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I'm going to need three or four. Major turn of
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: the conversation. I'm going to need three or four of
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: those $ 3 beers tonight. Sorry, that's the part I heard.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Is that not what we were focusing on?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: That's what I heard.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Third Jersey night. Johnny did take a shot.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: He goes, oh yeah, he gets like eight of those.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: $ 3 beers and third Jersey.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Threes. Threes.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Let me just take a quick path away from hockey
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: for a second, Mikey. Because I do want to mention this.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get to it otherwise. Shout out
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: and welcome to Seattle to Nick Cope. who is the
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: new play-by-play voice of Husky men's basketball and their new
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: director of broadcasting as well. So he's got to do all,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: basically he's got to make sure that Elyse and Softie
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: are in line. So Godspeed to you.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Good luck.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: And that's an impossible job, but no, in all seriousness, welcome.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: He just got hired to take on UW men's basketball,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: comes from UCLA and some other places, but welcome to
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Seattle to, to Nick Cope, who is the new director
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: of broadcasting for the hockey, for the Huskies. Again, I'm not,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: it's not hockey, but I just want to say that
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: cause I'm not going to get to it otherwise, but yeah,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You know what it's like to be the new guy
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: in town, so away you go.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Good congratulations to Nick. Joining a nice circle in town here.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: So, tonight, Kraken, Detroit. Mikey, what did you learn this morning?
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: It might be the last time we see a guy
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: wearing 71 on a white and red helmet here in Seattle.
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: Because Dylan Larkin could be traded reportedly as early as
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: next week.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: He has to get traded today. Just go away today.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Just go away today. He's the best player.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Well, one of the best. Debrink is probably the best player,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: but he's a good player. That would help the penalty kill.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: He would help it tonight.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: In general terms, though, they come home tonight, people going
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: to the game, people watching on TV or listening on
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the radio to you guys, like three one-on-one road trip
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: is outstanding. It means not much if you come home
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: and don't take care of business at home.
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: If you come home getting 7 of 10 points on
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: the road, and in a long road trip, when you're
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: also on the road for a long, long time, you
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: went through Tampa Bay as well, you're feeling pretty good
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: about yourself, unless you had your doors blown off 8-3
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: by the Florida Panthers back on Saturday. And there's nobody
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: that we talked to that I talked to anyone else
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: did that came away with a hundred percent satisfaction. And
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: if you were talking to Lane Lambert this morning, like me,
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: you get one sense. He is dialed in with intensity.
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: He wants this game.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's the difference between this coach and previous
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: coaches is he understands the bigger picture, but also understands
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the micro. Like he understands that the task at hand
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: daily is, You know, I thought it was interesting after
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: that loss because, you know, they lost Saturday and we're
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: doing the post game.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you're doing the same thing.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: And, you know, there's college football going on and people
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: are kind of like, whatever, they probably tuned out when
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: it was, you know, five to one or something. They,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: but he, his intensity and understanding, and even though they
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: lost and had a great road trip, he was still
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: not satisfied. And I love that because I, this is
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: how I equate a road trip in hockey. And I
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: think maybe even if you're doing, if you're talking about basketball, right?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot like a series in baseball.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: If you have a five-game trip, you're not going to win.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: You'd love to win all five, much like if you
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: have a four-game, three-game series in baseball. You'd love to
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: get a sweep. You just want to win the series.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Just win the series. If you look at the Mariners,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: what was their issue this year? They didn't win enough series.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: You go on the road. And against the right teams also.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: And I know the hockey teams, this team specifically, goes
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: by 10-game segments. So this will be game 10 tonight.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: But to me, going on the road for five. Did
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you win the five?
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: They did. They were 3-1-1.
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: That's a hell of a road trip. They had won
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: the road trip already heading into Florida.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Now you come home and you have, what is it, one, two, three,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: four games at home before you go a little dance
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: up to Calgary. So you got the next four. So
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: those next four, go 3-1.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Like, go 3-1. You go 3-1, you feel pretty good.
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: I don't want to look too far ahead here, but
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: this is where you have to, and they say this
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: a lot in this business, make a lot of hay.
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: Bank a lot of points. Six of your next seven
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: before going to Finland. are all here in Seattle. You
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: have 22 games coming up until about roughly a week
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: before Christmas. Take the Finland trip out. There's only 20
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: games that you're, there's 20 games roughly that you are
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: playing around these parts, if not for roughly an hour
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: and a half plane ride or less. The travel's a
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: lot lighter now for the next roughly two months.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: By the way, are you going to Finland?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: They're letting you go to Finland. Do you have a passport?
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Do you have a passport? Are they going to let
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: you back? Right back in my bag.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. What's that?
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Are they going to let you back here, though?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Are you allowed back in the country?
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Like, have you checked on that?
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Or are you just allowed one way to Finland?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Have you checked on that?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that there's some kind of a nefarious
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: deed going on? Mikey, I know you've got some skeletons.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I know that they're deep down. There are some skeletons
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: Five and a half years, they find a way to
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: kick me to the curb.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: And they do it overseas. That's... We got back to town.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Where's the captain?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we lost him.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Left him in the bento box. Captain's left at sea.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Listen, that responsibility is strictly on Alan and Fitz to
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: make sure that you're taken care of over there.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: That's cool as hell that you're going over there.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: That's awesome.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: I have never been overseas, period.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, again, I think the bigger question, like Ashley said,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: is are you going to be allowed back?
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I'll keep you posted.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: So tonight... Broadcast time is? 6 p.m.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Puck drop at 640, so extra long pregame show. Yeah,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: how do you like it? It's only the second one, right?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: The second long pregame?
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: So the fun thing about this is that, A, it
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: gives us more time to breathe here for some stuff
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: that we want to get to with Lane Lambert and elsewhere,
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: but also, you know, there's a lot of great conversations
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: and great storylines that we usually don't get a chance
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: to dive into because you have time constraints, you gotta
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: yada yada, and you gotta hit all corners, and Everything here,
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: we have a great one-on-one that I had planned with
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: Mackie Samuskevich.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And there's.
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: Some feelings, some thought of the trip was great, but
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: they can do more. They want to do more. By
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: the way, if practice told us something, there's not a
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: lot of satisfaction with how things ended on that trip
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: with their top six. And you're going to see maybe
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: a switch if those lines from practice hold up, meaning
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: Mackie Samuskevich, who was with Manny Beneers. Now it goes
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: to Chandler Stevenson's line, and he had a lot of
• 39:25
  Speaker 9: great things to say as far as how he felt
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: with them on day one.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Earlier dinner for you then tonight. Gonna have to squeeze
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: it in here somehow.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: That's the captain. As long as I get my food.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Network Central is again section 20 tonight. Open for fist bumps,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: open for gifts, open the tables wide open. Go see
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Mikey on your interview at the game tonight and say yo.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: All right. Gifts are not required.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Sure they are. Why not? I mean, yeah.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Mikey is a man of the people. You can just
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: go up and walk up to him and say hello.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: We have security. Never assumed, always appreciated. Can't see Alan Fitz.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. Those two guys are too big
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: for that stuff.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: That's the Captain Network Central tonight, 6 o'clock. Join them
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: for the pregame show.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: We'll take a break.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Come back.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Don't forget, it's Kraken Ticket Tuesday on Sports Radio 93.3 KJFM.