Latest / Movie Meltdown / 226: The Found Footage Festival
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Hi, this is Nick from the Found Footage Festival. You're
- 0:13Speaker 1: listening to Movie Meltdown, the meltingest podcast around.
- 0:21Speaker 2: It's showtime.
- 0:22Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
- 0:25Speaker 3: Picture Association of America.
- 0:28Speaker 4: It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Powered nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
- 1:03Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
- 1:04Speaker 5: I'm Brian.
- 1:04Speaker 6: I'm Fred.
- 1:04Speaker 5: I'm Marlena.
- 1:05Speaker 7: I'm Christian.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Do we want to introduce the other guests?
- 1:08Speaker 7: Well, we have with us the woman who lives with Fred,
- 1:33Speaker 7: I think.
- 1:35Speaker 8: All the listeners probably are fascinated to know that there
- 1:40Speaker 8: is someone who lives with you all the time and
- 1:43Speaker 8: has put up with you for many, many years now.
- 1:46Speaker 7: Yeah, that's just the way I wanted to put it
- 1:49Speaker 7: as a kind of, I don't know, legend or myth.
- 1:55Speaker 8: It's something, all right. So yeah, she has come along,
- 1:59Speaker 8: but probably... Very smartly wants to have nothing to do
- 2:02Speaker 8: with us. We are coming to you live via digital
- 2:05Speaker 8: recording from the steps of the Clifton Center, where we
- 2:08Speaker 8: have just watched the Found Footage Festival. So do we
- 2:12Speaker 8: want to go right into initial reactions? Are you still
- 2:15Speaker 8: in shock from some of these horrific and amazing things
- 2:18Speaker 8: we've just seen?
- 2:19Speaker 7: I didn't know what to expect. And my first reaction
- 2:22Speaker 7: is that I'm relieved that they didn't find any of
- 2:24Speaker 7: my footage.
- 2:26Speaker 8: I was a little worried going into it. There's a
- 2:29Speaker 8: lot of scary stuff of you out there. We know that.
- 2:33Speaker 8: What was your favorite line, Marlena?
- 2:35Speaker 2: Let's do aerobics unto the Lord, I think.
- 2:38Speaker 8: Bless her size. Something to that effect. We saw a
- 2:44Speaker 8: baby being born. That was before the show even started.
- 2:48Speaker 2: I was really shocked by that. I thought it was
- 2:49Speaker 2: going to be fake. No, there was really a baby
- 2:53Speaker 2: being pushed out of someone's vagina.
- 2:54Speaker 9: She even made the comment of, oh, my God, this
- 2:56Speaker 9: is really happening.
- 2:57Speaker 8: Yeah. The show or the baby. I'm not sure which.
- 3:01Speaker 8: But they're both amazing.
- 3:03Speaker 7: And then they were selling the DVD. And they said
- 3:06Speaker 7: it had the full birth. It was like 22 minutes
- 3:09Speaker 7: of it.
- 3:09Speaker 2: That's a pretty short birth, though.
- 3:11Speaker 9: Good for that woman.
- 3:11Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's a pretty long training video.
- 3:14Speaker 8: I'm also guessing you don't get a whole lot of
- 3:16Speaker 8: anesthesia in the back of a car when you're having
- 3:18Speaker 8: this child. I just want to.
- 3:21Speaker 2: What type of mother would volunteer to have a baby
- 3:24Speaker 2: in a, like, disgusting car? Like, she volunteered for that shit.
- 3:29Speaker 8: One who was civically minded. She was helping to show
- 3:33Speaker 8: what happens when, you know, you're going to give birth
- 3:36Speaker 8: and a cop needs to help you do it in
- 3:37Speaker 8: the back of a car.
- 3:38Speaker 9: I feel like she probably got a lot of cash
- 3:40Speaker 9: for that. And they did point out that it was
- 3:42Speaker 9: 56 years ago, so I don't think there was a
- 3:44Speaker 9: lot of anesthesia available at the time. From what I understand, they, like,
- 3:48Speaker 9: knocked you out and took your baby. If you didn't
- 3:51Speaker 9: need anesthesia.
- 3:52Speaker 8: There's a frying pan involved.
- 3:54Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, like frying pans, whatever it takes. Maybe a shovel. Like,
- 3:58Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't know how it worked then.
- 4:00Speaker 2: I just want to say that's John Stuart Mill's utilitarian theory, like,
- 4:04Speaker 2: put to work right there for the greater good.
- 4:08Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
- 4:09Speaker 7: They did say they tracked down the baby.
- 4:11Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
- 4:12Speaker 7: And they're going to interrogate the baby.
- 4:15Speaker 8: They want answers, damn it. They want answers.
- 4:18Speaker 2: I want answers.
- 4:20Speaker 8: So, yeah, we got an interesting take on that. And now,
- 4:25Speaker 8: as you may be able to hear, we're actually sitting
- 4:27Speaker 8: on the steps outside of the place as everyone's leaving,
- 4:30Speaker 8: going to their car. I love doing on-the-spot podcasts. We're live,
- 4:36Speaker 8: immersed in the middle of the wonder. So, yeah, if
- 4:41Speaker 8: nothing else, we actually talked to one of the two
- 4:44Speaker 8: guys who has put this together. We actually talked to Nick.
- 4:47Speaker 8: He and Joe put this together years and years ago,
- 4:50Speaker 8: as you'll hear. And it's inspired by a horrible how-to
- 4:55Speaker 8: video at work, which then I felt a kinship and
- 4:59Speaker 8: had to share my horrible how-to video at work. So, yeah,
- 5:03Speaker 8: we'll go ahead. We'll take our break here. And when
- 5:04Speaker 8: we come back, we will talk with Nick.
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- 10:28Speaker 8: Hi, you're listening to Movie Meltdown. This is Patti Mullen.
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- 10:54Speaker 4: You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Answered in the movies. And now, on with the show.
- 11:22Speaker 12: When I'm at the pearly gates This'll be on my
- 11:32Speaker 12: videotape My videotape And if a star flees It's just beneath.
- 11:47Speaker 5: And it's reaching up To grab me This is one
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- 12:14Speaker 8: All right, we are here with Nick, the co-creator of
- 12:17Speaker 8: the Fountain Footage Festival. I guess I want to start
- 12:20Speaker 8: at the very beginning. Even before you started with the videotapes,
- 12:25Speaker 8: I guess as a kid, were you interested in film
- 12:29Speaker 8: in its basic form?
- 12:32Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I mean, I was making movies, and I
- 12:37Speaker 1: think every kid does that. You know, your parents could
- 12:39Speaker 1: be just Cam Carter. And so, yeah, I grew up.
- 12:44Speaker 1: making movies and uh and also just really interested like
- 12:48Speaker 1: when we got a vcr i was just ecstatic i
- 12:51Speaker 1: mean i could not believe people forget now but i
- 12:54Speaker 1: could not believe that you could control a movie in
- 12:58Speaker 1: in your home i mean it was just remarkable and
- 13:03Speaker 1: um so yeah i i uh have always been interested
- 13:06Speaker 1: in film and that joe is the same way uh
- 13:08Speaker 1: he's the other curator and founder and um We've known
- 13:12Speaker 1: each other since sixth grade and soon got interested in film,
- 13:16Speaker 1: but one thing we also shared was a love of
- 13:21Speaker 1: things that were so bad they were good. We did
- 13:25Speaker 1: not really excel at any other academic pursuit or anything else,
- 13:29Speaker 1: but we had a really advanced sense of irony. So
- 13:34Speaker 1: one of my earliest memories with Joe is watching the
- 13:38Speaker 1: TV show Small Wonder. Are you familiar with this at all?
- 13:41Speaker 8: Unfortunately, I am, yes.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, our friends in middle school were
- 13:47Speaker 1: watching it seriously, you know, and being like, did you
- 13:50Speaker 1: see this in Small Wonder? And we could not believe it.
- 13:52Speaker 1: We somehow thought we were tapped into some different wavelengths.
- 13:56Speaker 1: They were not watching it ironically the way we were.
- 13:59Speaker 1: And that was the first time that maybe... uh... we've
- 14:03Speaker 1: developed so we went through irony cuba the early early
- 14:07Speaker 1: in life so uh... we're fairly promiscuous in that in
- 14:12Speaker 1: that we're we have viewing parties of small wonder and
- 14:15Speaker 1: and uh... another you know bad videos and things like
- 14:18Speaker 1: that from pretty early.
- 14:20Speaker 8: Age ironic before it was cool to be a character
- 14:23Speaker 8: i see.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Exactly that's what i'm trying to say exactly.
- 14:26Speaker 8: That well it's that's true i i do My sisters
- 14:31Speaker 8: used to watch that, and they were younger than me,
- 14:32Speaker 8: and I just sat there in awe of it. I'm like,
- 14:34Speaker 8: they were watching it just like any other show, and
- 14:36Speaker 8: I'm just like, I'm still a kid at this point,
- 14:39Speaker 8: but I'm like, this is terrible.
- 14:41Speaker 1: It's just written so bad. For listeners, I think one
- 14:46Speaker 1: of the first shows that was nationally syndicated, so it
- 14:49Speaker 1: wasn't created to go on a network and then syndicated later.
- 14:54Speaker 1: It was first-run syndication. I think it was the first
- 14:57Speaker 1: show to do that. So it looked cheap, and I
- 15:00Speaker 1: think they skimped on the writing and hiring professional actors, too.
- 15:05Speaker 8: And was it shot on video? Because it looked like
- 15:07Speaker 8: it was shot on an actual video camera back when
- 15:10Speaker 8: nobody used to do that stuff.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. It definitely wasn't film. I mean,
- 15:16Speaker 1: it must have been some kind of beta tape or something.
- 15:18Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it was the robot little girl, and...
- 15:23Speaker 1: we would just plan time around it and watch it.
- 15:26Speaker 1: And then when we got VCRs, we'd tape it off
- 15:29Speaker 1: TV and re-watch it. So that was kind of our
- 15:31Speaker 1: first dabbling into that kind of material.
- 15:34Speaker 8: Well, I guess Small Wonder was good for something.
- 15:37Speaker 10: At least.
- 15:39Speaker 1: If nothing else, yeah, that good thing came out of it, yeah.
- 15:44Speaker 8: So you did, in the beginning there, start like getting
- 15:48Speaker 8: friends together and watching just that show I guess when
- 15:52Speaker 8: did the first tape you know when outside of that
- 15:55Speaker 8: did you find that you know that magical tape that
- 15:58Speaker 8: sort of changed everything.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Yeah well there was like a key moment I was
- 16:04Speaker 1: a freshman in high school this would have been 1991
- 16:09Speaker 1: I think and I was working at a McDonald's in
- 16:13Speaker 1: my hometown Stoke, Wisconsin pretty small town And I was
- 16:18Speaker 1: in the break room one day, and my friend was
- 16:21Speaker 1: training to become a manager there. And he had to
- 16:23Speaker 1: watch like a series of 35 different training videos and
- 16:28Speaker 1: sign up things saying he'd watch them. And that was
- 16:30Speaker 1: part of the training. And while I was in there
- 16:33Speaker 1: one day, he was watching this one called Inside and
- 16:36Speaker 1: Outside Custodial Duties. And it was a training video for
- 16:40Speaker 1: McDonald's janitors. which, you know, already, our McDonald's did not
- 16:45Speaker 1: have a janitor. So what, you know, I didn't really know.
- 16:50Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
- 16:50Speaker 1: It was everybody's job. And we were watching it, and
- 16:53Speaker 1: unlike a lot of the other training videos, this one
- 16:55Speaker 1: tried to have a plot to it. And so it
- 16:58Speaker 1: had all the normal pitfalls of training videos, where everybody's
- 17:02Speaker 1: a little too chipper and perky to be doing the
- 17:04Speaker 1: things they're doing. But more than that, it was just
- 17:09Speaker 1: trainees' first day on the job. And this overly perky
- 17:12Speaker 1: crew trainer, uh, told him that he needed to try
- 17:15Speaker 1: to see, find McSee. Um, and McSee, it turns out,
- 17:20Speaker 1: it stands for McDonald's Queen. So she's constantly saying like, okay,
- 17:24Speaker 1: buff those windows. Did you see McSee? And, uh, he's like,
- 17:28Speaker 1: I don't, what do you mean? He goes, well, I'm
- 17:29Speaker 1: sure she's around here somewhere. So it's just like this
- 17:33Speaker 1: mythology created around custodial work at McDonald's. And, uh, I mean,
- 17:39Speaker 1: my thought was this cannot stay in the break room.
- 17:41Speaker 1: This needs to be seen by everyone. And, uh, so
- 17:45Speaker 1: I took it home, smuggled it in my backpack, showed
- 17:47Speaker 1: it to Joe and we would have viewing parties. We,
- 17:51Speaker 1: we invited everybody we knew over to my parents' living
- 17:54Speaker 1: room and we'd just watch the show and make jokes
- 17:57Speaker 1: along with it. And, um, we even made a short film,
- 18:01Speaker 1: like a fake training video based around, you know, this video.
- 18:05Speaker 1: It was an obsession. And, uh, There wasn't much else
- 18:08Speaker 1: going on in our hometown, so this was our entertainment,
- 18:11Speaker 1: our cheap entertainment. But, you know, you asked what the
- 18:14Speaker 1: first video was, and that really was the springboard for,
- 18:18Speaker 1: you know, what else is out there? There's got to
- 18:20Speaker 1: be more stuff out there like this to keep us entertained.
- 18:23Speaker 1: And it turns out there was a lot more.
- 18:26Speaker 8: Just to veer off into my own personal sad part
- 18:30Speaker 8: of this, yeah, around that same time, more or less,
- 18:33Speaker 8: I was at, I'd say I won't name them, but
- 18:36Speaker 8: we were actually just talking about me working at this
- 18:38Speaker 8: corporate-run video store. It was actually sales, mall-based. You probably
- 18:42Speaker 8: know which one. And they had all those training videos, too.
- 18:46Speaker 8: And I guess what's worse, at least if they're, like,
- 18:49Speaker 8: earnest and dopey, you know, you can just kind of
- 18:52Speaker 8: laugh at them. But when they become self-conscious and they
- 18:55Speaker 8: started trying to be cool in them, that's when it
- 18:58Speaker 8: was scary. Because as they went on, like, in the beginning,
- 19:01Speaker 8: they were just very cut and dry. But as they
- 19:02Speaker 8: went on, they started trying to Again, we were a
- 19:05Speaker 8: video store, so they would start trying to mimic other
- 19:08Speaker 8: movies or popular. So you would have people trying to
- 19:11Speaker 8: put on, you'd have them doing a film noir version
- 19:14Speaker 8: of this training video with bad black and white footage.
- 19:19Speaker 8: The one I really remember, there was one around that
- 19:22Speaker 8: time when Wayne and Garth were huge, and I think
- 19:25Speaker 8: the movie had actually come out. They did one called
- 19:27Speaker 8: Dwayne and Garth. And they were training you how to
- 19:31Speaker 8: be a wonderful employee and still were doing the party
- 19:35Speaker 8: on kind of nonsense with bad wigs.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Okay, you're blowing my mind a little bit here. Go on,
- 19:40Speaker 1: but I have a story to tell you after this.
- 19:42Speaker 8: Well, I mean, that was it. It was just, it
- 19:43Speaker 8: was like 45 minutes of them, you know, party on, woo-hoo, and,
- 19:48Speaker 8: you know, just bad wigs and T-shirts and, like, just
- 19:51Speaker 8: some idiot that worked at a store in another city,
- 19:54Speaker 8: I'm sure. But, oh, man, it was painful.
- 19:58Speaker 1: This is incredible because in, I guess it was maybe
- 20:03Speaker 1: the mid-' 90s, no, I think it was, like, the early 2000s,
- 20:07Speaker 1: Somebody told us, like, they knew that we collected training videos,
- 20:11Speaker 1: and they said I had to watch one at Suncoast,
- 20:13Speaker 1: a Suncoast video where Wayne and Garth took you through the,
- 20:18Speaker 1: you know, through what to do. And so we were obsessed.
- 20:22Speaker 1: We tried to get it. I think we went to
- 20:23Speaker 1: a Suncoast in Minneapolis. That's their headquarters. Yeah. We were
- 20:30Speaker 1: living there at the time, so we asked just a
- 20:33Speaker 1: store in a mall, like, Is there any way we
- 20:35Speaker 1: could borrow your training video? So we told them what
- 20:37Speaker 1: we did. We kind of leveled with them. And they're like, no,
- 20:40Speaker 1: of course not. These are heavily guarded corporate secrets.
- 20:44Speaker 8: These are serious.
- 20:46Speaker 1: So Joe actually applied for a job in a mall
- 20:50Speaker 1: in suburban Minneapolis and got a job at the Suncoast.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Went through the application process, got hired. Showed up for
- 20:58Speaker 1: his first day of work. Worked a four-hour shift.
- 21:01Speaker 10: And then.
- 21:02Speaker 1: during his break went back and and took the entire
- 21:06Speaker 1: stack of training videos six of them put them in
- 21:08Speaker 1: his bag and and then.
- 21:11Speaker 8: Um that's internal theft damage.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Well yeah that's part of that's.
- 21:16Speaker 8: Part of that's one of those videos he took.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Yes so if we get a hot tip that's what
- 21:21Speaker 1: we'll go after so this is probably as far as
- 21:24Speaker 1: we've gone but So, um, he took them home, dubbed
- 21:27Speaker 1: the videos, then went back the next day and said,
- 21:30Speaker 1: I can't work here anymore, sorry, I quit, and handed
- 21:32Speaker 1: the training videos, you know, to the person working, and
- 21:35Speaker 1: they were kind of like, well, why are, you know, they,
- 21:38Speaker 1: I think they had a little confused look, but they said, oh,
- 21:40Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. So then we, we went
- 21:42Speaker 1: and watched all the training videos. There was an anti-shoplifting video,
- 21:46Speaker 1: which is, I guess, a little ironic, um, and, and, uh,
- 21:50Speaker 1: There was also one where they did like a Siskel
- 21:52Speaker 1: and Ebert parody. And they had, you know, we saw
- 21:57Speaker 1: one where it was like the employee, the crew trainer
- 22:00Speaker 1: was like, of all the video stores in all the world,
- 22:04Speaker 1: you had to pick this one. And it goes into
- 22:06Speaker 1: black and white.
- 22:06Speaker 10: You know.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Just tiresome. But the Wayne's World parody one was not
- 22:11Speaker 1: in there. So we were always wondering if the true
- 22:14Speaker 1: was the legend true, and now I guess it was.
- 22:17Speaker 8: I watched it, and as I stayed there longer, I
- 22:20Speaker 8: then had to bring other people in and make them
- 22:22Speaker 8: watch it, which made me feel a little better, actually. Oh, yeah.
- 22:27Speaker 1: I mean, part of our show is about commiserating. I mean,
- 22:30Speaker 1: there's no way I could do the show alone, so
- 22:33Speaker 1: it's good to have other people there to share in here.
- 22:36Speaker 1: And the suffering.
- 22:37Speaker 4: Definitely.
- 22:38Speaker 8: Well, that, you know, your McDonald's and my son Coe's,
- 22:42Speaker 8: they were sort of the key to all this. But
- 22:44Speaker 8: I guess at that point, how did you go about
- 22:47Speaker 8: finding more in the beginning there?
- 22:50Speaker 1: Well, you know, one thing we did already was spend
- 22:52Speaker 1: a lot of time at, like, Salvation Army's and Goodwill's
- 22:56Speaker 1: and St. Vinny's and stuff like that. And we were
- 22:59Speaker 1: just looking for stuff that entertained us. I mean, and clothes.
- 23:01Speaker 1: You know, we'd look and find a great T-shirt. for
- 23:04Speaker 1: like a bikini car wash or something and buy that.
- 23:08Speaker 1: We started collecting answering machine tapes we'd find, like we'd
- 23:11Speaker 1: find old answering machines.
- 23:13Speaker 8: That's a whole other rabbit hole to go down.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Yeah. So we have a ton of those still. But then,
- 23:19Speaker 1: you know, once we saw the McDonald's video, we were like,
- 23:21Speaker 1: let's start looking in thrift stores for these. And we'd
- 23:25Speaker 1: find tons of them. We found like a Mr. T
- 23:28Speaker 1: educational video. We found a potty training video, a lot
- 23:33Speaker 1: of exercise videos. This was already in the early 90s.
- 23:36Speaker 1: They were ending up at thrift stores already. And so
- 23:41Speaker 1: we just find these, share them with friends, and that
- 23:45Speaker 1: was sort of the beginnings of the Found Footage Festival,
- 23:48Speaker 1: just sort of us doing this for friends privately. It
- 23:51Speaker 1: was kind of an inside joke, really. And then, you know,
- 23:55Speaker 1: we went... As we got into college, we worked at
- 23:58Speaker 1: our campus TV station, and we found, like, all sorts
- 24:01Speaker 1: of old videos that were made there. Like, Kato Kaelin
- 24:04Speaker 1: went to our university and had some shows on the
- 24:07Speaker 1: air back then.
- 24:09Speaker 13: So, of course, you're making dubs for yourself. And then
- 24:13Speaker 13: after college, Joe had a job at a company that
- 24:17Speaker 13: rented film equipment in Minneapolis, but he also would duplicate
- 24:22Speaker 13: videos for companies.
- 24:24Speaker 1: Of course, the collection grew exponentially then. You got a
- 24:27Speaker 1: lot of videos ending up there where people wanted dubs
- 24:31Speaker 1: of them, and anything that looked interesting, you know, we'd
- 24:34Speaker 1: make an extra copy for ourselves. So the collection grew there,
- 24:38Speaker 1: and we started expanding and, like, actively going to, like,
- 24:41Speaker 1: estate sales where somebody died and they're getting rid of
- 24:45Speaker 1: all their stuff, and we'd go there and sometimes we'd find, like,
- 24:49Speaker 1: an old video camera in addition to tapes, and, you know,
- 24:52Speaker 1: you'd You buy the camera, it's only a couple dollars,
- 24:55Speaker 1: and sometimes the video's still inside. They found some pretty
- 24:59Speaker 1: bizarre home movies that way. You know, and once you
- 25:03Speaker 1: know you're looking for VHS, you find it in the
- 25:04Speaker 1: weirdest places. I was taking out the trash from my
- 25:08Speaker 1: apartment building. I find a stack of tapes in the
- 25:10Speaker 1: dumpster there. You know, you find them lying on the street. So, yeah, really,
- 25:15Speaker 1: now that we know what we're looking for, it's everywhere.
- 25:18Speaker 8: And nobody wants them at that point.
- 25:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:20Speaker 8: As soon as DVD happened, yeah, I mean, it was
- 25:23Speaker 8: such a quick turnover that, like, people, like, lived and
- 25:27Speaker 8: died for VHS for, like, a decade there, and then
- 25:30Speaker 8: as soon as the next thing came along, they were
- 25:32Speaker 8: just like, what is this junk? And they didn't even
- 25:34Speaker 8: have the thing looked up anymore and started tossing it.
- 25:37Speaker 1: What's so weird to us, too, is that, you know,
- 25:40Speaker 1: vinyl has been this collector's item for years now. I mean,
- 25:45Speaker 1: even after record players mostly went away... there's still tons
- 25:50Speaker 1: of vinyl collectors, and it kind of has this, like,
- 25:52Speaker 1: sex appeal, and, you know, it's kind of cool if you're, like,
- 25:55Speaker 1: a guy with a record trade who's finding old, weird albums. But,
- 26:01Speaker 1: you know, I feel like VHS is the same way.
- 26:03Speaker 1: I mean, for the same reason that people collect records,
- 26:05Speaker 1: it's that, you know, you find some rare and one-of-a-kind
- 26:10Speaker 1: things and some weird, esoteric, you know, albums because vinyl
- 26:14Speaker 1: was so cheap to produce. It was the same with VHS.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Mom-and-pop operations were making small-run videos and testing the waters
- 26:24Speaker 1: to see what might catch on. So VHS was the
- 26:30Speaker 1: same way with me because it's plastic and kind of clunky.
- 26:33Speaker 1: It doesn't have the same sort of appeal. But I
- 26:37Speaker 1: think for the same reasons that vinyl collectors are digging
- 26:39Speaker 1: through old bargain bins for a gem, we're the same
- 26:43Speaker 1: way with VHS.
- 26:45Speaker 8: Yeah yeah no i've definitely i mean you don't want
- 26:47Speaker 8: it for the video quality necessarily but for me it's
- 26:50Speaker 8: it's all the other stuff like i i got so
- 26:53Speaker 8: interested in the box art as it went on and
- 26:55Speaker 8: i've tried to pick up a few again i don't
- 26:57Speaker 8: find hardly any good ones anymore it's all that very
- 27:00Speaker 8: last run and mass produced you know just poster art
- 27:03Speaker 8: slapped on there or something but yeah there's a few
- 27:06Speaker 8: of the big box the good stuff from the beginning
- 27:08Speaker 8: that i've got the My Exterminator 2 box is sort
- 27:11Speaker 8: of my pride and joy of all those.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Nice.
- 27:14Speaker 8: It's classic.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's another thing, too. It's like,
- 27:18Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and certainly I like streaming media.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I like the convenience of watching a movie on Netflix,
- 27:24Speaker 1: for instance, and all that stuff. But there's something to
- 27:27Speaker 1: be said for having a physical piece of media in
- 27:32Speaker 1: your hand.
- 27:33Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 27:34Speaker 1: And being able to look at the cover art and
- 27:36Speaker 1: read the description on the back and all that stuff,
- 27:40Speaker 1: it's just more tangible. There's sort of a low-budget charm
- 27:43Speaker 1: to a lot of it, too. We collect VHS covers
- 27:49Speaker 1: as well. There's some great cover art.
- 27:52Speaker 8: There was. The 80s in particular. It was a whole
- 27:56Speaker 8: new world.
- 27:57Speaker 1: A lot of neon shapes, a lot of little squiggles.
- 28:01Speaker 8: Airbrush and lots of Fine airbrushed knockoffs of Boris artwork
- 28:09Speaker 8: on the front.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, we do this thing in our
- 28:12Speaker 1: show now called the VHS cover slideshow. And, you know,
- 28:16Speaker 1: that was one of the frustrating things about doing our
- 28:18Speaker 1: show where we're sharing footage was that we'd find all
- 28:20Speaker 1: these incredible looking videos, but then the footage did not
- 28:23Speaker 1: live up to the cover. So, yeah, now we do
- 28:28Speaker 1: the slideshow where we share it and zoom in and
- 28:31Speaker 1: point out things that we noticed from the from the
- 28:33Speaker 1: video covers, and actually it was so, proved to be
- 28:37Speaker 1: so popular that we released a book last year of
- 28:41Speaker 1: over 300 of our favorite VHS covers, along with our
- 28:45Speaker 1: commentary about it. So it's kind of a, it's a
- 28:48Speaker 1: handsome tome to keep in your bathroom.
- 28:51Speaker 8: Yeah, important pieces of history we need to preserve.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. There's no, you know, there's no
- 28:58Speaker 1: temperature-controlled bulb at the Smithsonian for the Angela Lansbury exercise.
- 29:05Speaker 1: You know, there's no organization that Martin Scorsese is, you know,
- 29:12Speaker 1: the chairperson of that's preserving these kind of things.
- 29:15Speaker 8: I think I remember stocking that one, by the way.
- 29:18Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing our part as much as we can.
- 29:20Speaker 1: We've got a spurt locker.
- 29:22Speaker 10: In Queens, New York with about, you know, 6,000 tapes
- 29:25Speaker 10: in it and continuing to grow. So we're doing our
- 29:29Speaker 10: part to hang on to these things. Nice, nice.
- 29:33Speaker 8: I guess you're compiling them at that point and you're
- 29:37Speaker 8: doing the shows for friends. At what point do you actually...
- 29:40Speaker 8: see it evolving into something more? I mean, were you
- 29:42Speaker 8: conscious of it in the beginning there that it was
- 29:44Speaker 8: becoming bigger than that?
- 29:46Speaker 1: Not really.
- 29:47Speaker 10: I mean, I started looking at the Dave Letterman show
- 29:49Speaker 10: and I'd be sharing my videos with co-workers in the
- 29:53Speaker 10: conference room and stuff and a couple of times I
- 29:56Speaker 10: ended up on the show and being a collector and Um,
- 30:00Speaker 10: so I knew that maybe there was some more appeal
- 30:03Speaker 10: to it than just our immediate circle of friends, but
- 30:05Speaker 10: you never really know.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Um, but... I think it was, yeah, it was 2004,
- 30:10Speaker 1: like April of 2004, and, um, I had seen a
- 30:14Speaker 1: friend's comedy show in this back room in, uh, the
- 30:19Speaker 1: East Village in New York, and, um, it was just
- 30:22Speaker 1: kind of a small room, maybe like 50 seats, but
- 30:25Speaker 1: I noticed they had a screen there and a projector,
- 30:27Speaker 1: and I thought, well... maybe we could try and show
- 30:32Speaker 1: up our favorite finds here one day. Maybe people would
- 30:35Speaker 1: come see it. And I didn't really think anything else
- 30:39Speaker 1: of it, but then we were working on this documentary
- 30:42Speaker 1: called Dirty Country, and we didn't have any money to
- 30:46Speaker 1: spend on it, and we didn't have any, they weren't
- 30:49Speaker 1: giving a government grant out to this documentary either. It's
- 30:53Speaker 1: about a guy who sings raunchy country music, so they weren't,
- 30:56Speaker 1: They weren't giving out big grants to help make movies
- 30:59Speaker 1: like that. So we didn't have any assets, so we
- 31:04Speaker 1: couldn't get a loan. The only thing we had of
- 31:06Speaker 1: value was our VHS collection. We thought, let's try it.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Let's see if anybody shows up and wants to see
- 31:13Speaker 1: our goofy videos.
- 31:15Speaker 8: That may be the only time somebody's made that statement, actually.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a stupid idea, you know. And this
- 31:23Speaker 1: was pre-YouTube, and there wasn't this shorthand about, like, oh,
- 31:27Speaker 1: it's funny exercise videos. And people could be like, oh,
- 31:29Speaker 1: I've seen the Tracy Lord's exercise video on YouTube. That
- 31:34Speaker 1: didn't exist yet, so... But we really had no risk.
- 31:37Speaker 1: We were just doing a 50-50 cut of the door.
- 31:40Speaker 1: So they gave us this back room, and I sent
- 31:43Speaker 1: out some press releases to places. And amazingly, I think
- 31:48Speaker 1: maybe we were just at the right time when people
- 31:50Speaker 1: were ready to look back on the VHS era. And
- 31:54Speaker 1: so press really picked up on it. And I think
- 31:56Speaker 1: there was something in the New York Times about it.
- 31:59Speaker 1: And we had a line of like 200 people out
- 32:01Speaker 1: the door of this tiny little bar trying to get
- 32:04Speaker 1: into our show. Like, whoa. I mean, we were just,
- 32:08Speaker 1: it was shocking that this thing we thought was an
- 32:10Speaker 1: inside joke actually had some appeal beyond our immediate group
- 32:15Speaker 1: of weirdo friends. And so then we started getting offers
- 32:20Speaker 1: to come bring the show elsewhere, and it kind of
- 32:23Speaker 1: evolved from there.
- 32:24Speaker 8: I guess, as it's gone on, maybe not what's currently
- 32:30Speaker 8: on the tour, but I guess overall, through the whole
- 32:32Speaker 8: run of it, like, what is some of, Your favorite ones,
- 32:36Speaker 8: you know, that have just really been sort of the
- 32:39Speaker 8: best ones of the run for you personally.
- 32:42Speaker 1: I always like, you know, for us, the story of
- 32:45Speaker 1: how you find something is almost as interesting as what's
- 32:47Speaker 1: on the tape. So we always like to do detective
- 32:50Speaker 1: work and track down some of the people in the videos.
- 32:53Speaker 1: So the ones that I come back to are the
- 32:55Speaker 1: ones where we've met the people in them.
- 32:57Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
- 32:58Speaker 1: There's one we found in college. our friend was working
- 33:02Speaker 1: at a lumber store called Menards in college, and he
- 33:08Speaker 1: was doing their video production stuff. And he said he
- 33:12Speaker 1: was looking through, actually we were there with him, and
- 33:14Speaker 1: he was looking in his warehouse, and we're like, what
- 33:16Speaker 1: are all these old boxes? And in one of the
- 33:19Speaker 1: boxes we found a videotape, and it was labeled sell, sell, sell.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Just three words on it. And it turned out to
- 33:28Speaker 1: be an excerpt from a home shopping show, a regional
- 33:32Speaker 1: home shopping show from 1983 starring these two guys, John
- 33:38Speaker 1: and Johnny. They had their own show on this. This
- 33:40Speaker 1: was one of the first home shopping shows, and it
- 33:43Speaker 1: was mostly in Wisconsin and some other affiliates. And the
- 33:48Speaker 1: two hosts of this show, I mean, I wish there
- 33:51Speaker 1: was more footage of them, but we only had this
- 33:53Speaker 1: half-hour excerpt. They are just... So hyperactive. I mean, the
- 33:57Speaker 1: home shopping hosts are inherently obnoxious, but I guarantee nobody
- 34:01Speaker 1: tops these guys, John and Johnny, because they're stumbling over
- 34:06Speaker 1: their own words and, you know, dropping things. They're so
- 34:11Speaker 1: excited about selling, you know, Ferrari sunglasses and things like that.
- 34:17Speaker 1: And so that was a big hit in college among friends,
- 34:20Speaker 1: and that became a big hit in our first touring show.
- 34:23Speaker 1: And we later got to meet these guys. We tracked
- 34:25Speaker 1: them down. One sells Persian rugs in Seattle, and the
- 34:29Speaker 1: other one is still a home shopping host. He's on
- 34:33Speaker 1: a home shopping network in Tampa. So whenever we've been
- 34:35Speaker 1: in those cities, we've gotten a chance to talk to
- 34:39Speaker 1: them about it. And so that's definitely an early favorite. And,
- 34:46Speaker 1: of course, Jack Rebney, the world's angriest RV salesman.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Have you seen that footage?
- 34:52Speaker 4: Yeah, I have.
- 34:53Speaker 1: I bet most people are familiar with it, but that
- 34:56Speaker 1: was another really early find of ours.
- 35:01Speaker 8: That took on a life of its own and a movie.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Right, they made a movie about it called Winnebago Man.
- 35:10Speaker 1: But this was something like we were working on commercials
- 35:12Speaker 1: and other crews, training videos and stuff as production assistants
- 35:17Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. And whenever you're there, you know, working on crews,
- 35:21Speaker 1: there's a lot of downtime, and you kind of share
- 35:23Speaker 1: horror stories of the worst shoots you were ever on.
- 35:27Speaker 1: And we met this camera assistant who told us about
- 35:30Speaker 1: this shoot was on in 1989 in Iowa for Winnebago RVs,
- 35:37Speaker 1: where the crew very early on realized that the host
- 35:40Speaker 1: of this video was kind of in over his head
- 35:42Speaker 1: and had a bad temper.
- 35:44Speaker 13: And.
- 35:45Speaker 1: kept losing his cool on, you know, during the shoot.
- 35:49Speaker 1: So they, uh, I mean, God bless them. They kept
- 35:53Speaker 1: the cameras rolling between each take, uh, just never, never
- 35:57Speaker 1: hit stop on the, uh, video camera. And they captured
- 36:01Speaker 1: this guy's basically his descent into madness. I mean, he's
- 36:05Speaker 1: having a really bad couple of weeks on the side
- 36:07Speaker 1: of this, uh, our promotional video. And, um, so he,
- 36:12Speaker 1: you know, the crew had kind of put it together,
- 36:14Speaker 1: their own private tape. So they had a little memento
- 36:17Speaker 1: of this horrible shoot and he gave us like the
- 36:20Speaker 1: raw footage and we cut together our favorite angry tirades
- 36:24Speaker 1: from the shoot. And, uh, so that was a big
- 36:27Speaker 1: hit at our first show. We closed the show with it. And, um,
- 36:31Speaker 1: and then the version ended up online and then that
- 36:35Speaker 1: became one of the first viral videos. And, uh, uh...
- 36:39Speaker 1: a filmmaker years ago decided to track him down we
- 36:42Speaker 1: we have tried to track him down to i mean
- 36:44Speaker 1: this guy was the holy grail of people we want
- 36:47Speaker 1: to meet but that we we thought he was dead
- 36:49Speaker 1: of an ulcer or something else could not find them
- 36:54Speaker 1: so the filmmaker hired a private detective and found him
- 36:57Speaker 1: living like a hermit in northern california and uh... this
- 37:02Speaker 1: movie about it ends with him appearing at our show
- 37:04Speaker 1: in san francisco where he he gets the subject of
- 37:07Speaker 1: the video gets to see people react to it for
- 37:11Speaker 1: the first time. It's pretty incredible. Definitely a career highlight
- 37:14Speaker 1: for us.
- 37:15Speaker 8: Yeah, he's sort of beloved now, even, you know, for
- 37:18Speaker 8: all these different people. It's interesting, especially when it comes
- 37:22Speaker 8: full circle like that.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's so great, because you can see, like,
- 37:26Speaker 1: he's a comrade, I mean, when we met him, he
- 37:30Speaker 1: was very prickly, and he was like, you know, who
- 37:33Speaker 1: are these lunatics coming to the show tonight? You know,
- 37:36Speaker 1: very skeptical people. And you could see him, you know,
- 37:39Speaker 1: we were watching his reaction to the video, seeing the
- 37:41Speaker 1: video in front of an audience for the first time.
- 37:43Speaker 1: And his arms were folded, you know, he kind of
- 37:45Speaker 1: had this, you know, this kind of frown on his face.
- 37:49Speaker 1: But as he saw people, like, double over in laughter, like,
- 37:52Speaker 1: I don't think he realized how much joy this video brought,
- 37:55Speaker 1: or legitimately brought to people. So, you know, all of
- 37:59Speaker 1: a sudden, this smile came over his face, and.
- 38:02Speaker 1: We compare him to, like, the Grinch, where his heart
- 38:04Speaker 1: grew three times its size that day. You know, you
- 38:07Speaker 1: could just see it. And there's a standing ovation, and
- 38:11Speaker 1: we were hugging him at the end. And so, you know,
- 38:15Speaker 1: tell us, we always say, like, this is a guy
- 38:17Speaker 1: who called a fly a goddamn jackass. You know, like,
- 38:22Speaker 1: he's just a poet. He's got his way with words.
- 38:25Speaker 1: So we were honored to meet him and be part
- 38:27Speaker 1: of that story.
- 38:28Speaker 8: That is pretty awesome.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:32Speaker 8: Well, that's sort of the high end of it. I
- 38:34Speaker 8: guess to go to the other end of the spectrum, what's, like,
- 38:36Speaker 8: that stands out as, like, the weirdest or creepiest? I mean,
- 38:40Speaker 8: you run into some scary stuff, especially on VHS. So, like,
- 38:43Speaker 8: what's one that just has stuck with you as something
- 38:46Speaker 8: really creepy?
- 38:48Speaker 1: Oh, man, there's been a lot. I mean, there's one,
- 38:52Speaker 1: you know, I was talking about at state sales. We
- 38:54Speaker 1: went to one in Queens, New York, and, uh, it
- 38:57Speaker 1: was apparently the old man who had passed away. It
- 39:01Speaker 1: was his camcorder. We bought it for five bucks, took
- 39:04Speaker 1: it home, plugged it in, and there was a tape
- 39:07Speaker 1: still inside.
- 39:07Speaker 10: And it.
- 39:10Speaker 1: Started off kind of like a normal home movie. There's
- 39:12Speaker 1: a teenage girl dancing to the Phantom of the Opera soundtrack,
- 39:16Speaker 1: wearing like a costume dress. And then it cuts, and
- 39:20Speaker 1: then the old man is wearing the costume dress without
- 39:23Speaker 1: a shirt. He's just topless, but with a skirt, gold
- 39:27Speaker 1: lamé skirt on, staring kind of creepily into the camera,
- 39:31Speaker 1: dancing to the Phantom of the Opera as well. We
- 39:37Speaker 1: joke that, are you sure this wasn't David Lynch's estate sale?
- 39:42Speaker 1: It just has that sort of vibe to it, that
- 39:44Speaker 1: sort of Silence of the Lambs guy vibe. But then
- 39:49Speaker 1: it cuts again, and it's the same guy. Now he's
- 39:52Speaker 1: behind the camera, and he's filming the demolition of a
- 39:55Speaker 1: house across the street from him in Whitestone, New York.
- 39:59Speaker 1: And the foreman says, what are you doing filming here?
- 40:02Speaker 1: He goes, well, I have a rewrite to film. And
- 40:04Speaker 1: they get into this huge, like, stereotypical New York, you know,
- 40:09Speaker 1: screaming match over whether he's allowed to film the demolition.
- 40:13Speaker 10: Of his house.
- 40:14Speaker 1: And then the tape ends. Like, the entire tape's five
- 40:16Speaker 1: minutes long. but it covers the gamut of all that.
- 40:19Speaker 1: Of insanity. And then you can't see his poodle at
- 40:23Speaker 1: one point.
- 40:24Speaker 8: It covers the gamut of insanity.
- 40:27Speaker 1: So strange. That one sticks with me. But there's one, actually,
- 40:30Speaker 1: in this new show that we're on tour with that
- 40:34Speaker 1: we've been lucky enough in that we can't be everywhere
- 40:37Speaker 1: at once, so people will actually donate videos to the cause,
- 40:42Speaker 1: and that's always our favorite thing in the world. But sometimes...
- 40:46Speaker 1: We think twice about it. Because we were in Vancouver
- 40:52Speaker 1: last year, and this guy came up with a big
- 40:55Speaker 1: stack of tapes for us after the show and said, hey,
- 40:57Speaker 1: I found some stuff for you. And I guess he'd
- 41:00Speaker 1: heard that a government office in British Columbia was getting
- 41:04Speaker 1: rid of all of its VHS collections, and he could
- 41:07Speaker 1: not let that happen. So he went down, rescued anything
- 41:10Speaker 1: that he thought looked interesting. And the tapes that were leaked,
- 41:14Speaker 1: caught our eye that we couldn't wait to watch. It
- 41:16Speaker 1: was labeled Handmade Love. White letters on a black label.
- 41:22Speaker 1: We had no idea what... I mean, we had some guesses.
- 41:24Speaker 1: We really didn't know what was on it. I don't
- 41:29Speaker 1: think even our guesses got close to what it was.
- 41:32Speaker 1: It was this educational video put out by a company
- 41:36Speaker 1: in British Columbia. It was basically a masturbation instructional video
- 41:43Speaker 1: for developmentally disabled men. And their heart was in the
- 41:49Speaker 1: right place with this video. You know, they're obviously trying
- 41:51Speaker 1: to do a good service here, something that maybe not
- 41:55Speaker 1: people don't want to do in person, so they made
- 41:57Speaker 1: a video. But they did not have the resources production-wise
- 42:04Speaker 1: to make a competent video, so it's very homemade. Like,
- 42:07Speaker 1: they didn't have a tripod, so it's all handheld.
- 42:10Speaker 10: God.
- 42:11Speaker 1: The audio is really bad. It's shot in sort of
- 42:14Speaker 1: this depressing-looking apartment. And it just... You know, just the
- 42:20Speaker 1: premise alone is unsettling. So combine that with, like, you know,
- 42:25Speaker 1: the production values of, like, a snuff film, and you
- 42:27Speaker 1: kind of get a vague idea of what this video
- 42:31Speaker 1: is like. And then we also found out that they
- 42:33Speaker 1: made a sister video for women called Fingertips. Clever name.
- 42:40Speaker 1: So we... called up this company and sort of pretended
- 42:43Speaker 1: to be educators, and they sent us this tape as well.
- 42:48Speaker 1: So in the show, we show just enough to not
- 42:53Speaker 1: make people walk out of handmade love and fingertips. It's
- 42:57Speaker 1: kind of a one-two punch.
- 42:59Speaker 8: Wow, those titles.
- 43:01Speaker 1: Normally you play a video and people applaud afterwards. This
- 43:04Speaker 1: one just kind of gets a stunned silence, but we're
- 43:06Speaker 1: okay with that.
- 43:08Speaker 8: Like, it's, again, it's the titles that, like, I can
- 43:11Speaker 8: see them wanting to, like, earnestly go into doing this
- 43:15Speaker 8: for whatever reasons. You know, I guess it's necessary to
- 43:18Speaker 8: some level. But, yeah, then giving it this funny title
- 43:22Speaker 8: is almost, you know, I mean, that's what I would
- 43:23Speaker 8: title that kind of video.
- 43:25Speaker 1: Right, exactly. It's like they're almost trying to be too
- 43:29Speaker 1: clever or cute with these titles, and who are they
- 43:32Speaker 1: trying to appeal to here, you know? Like, They also
- 43:36Speaker 1: made another one about how to put on a condom,
- 43:39Speaker 1: and they called it Undercover Dick. And it's like, what
- 43:43Speaker 1: are you guys doing? You know, on one hand, you
- 43:46Speaker 1: seem sort of like you know what you're doing with
- 43:47Speaker 1: the titles, but the videos demonstrate otherwise. So, I don't know.
- 43:52Speaker 8: Very strange. The people you're trying to appeal to aren't
- 43:55Speaker 8: quite going to get these references or jokes or realize
- 43:58Speaker 8: that it's even a joke. Yeah.
- 44:01Speaker 10: Right.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Exactly. So, yeah, it's one of those head-scratching ones that,
- 44:07Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we like to get to the bottom
- 44:09Speaker 1: of certain videos, and this one I think is just
- 44:11Speaker 1: better left. The less you know about it, the better, probably.
- 44:15Speaker 8: Yeah, just that's unsettling enough right there.
- 44:20Speaker 1: But we still show it.
- 44:21Speaker 8: Well, of course. I mean, yeah. I mean, you have
- 44:24Speaker 8: to show it.
- 44:26Speaker 1: But actually, we got a little sadistic and, like, A
- 44:28Speaker 1: lot of times people, like if somebody's sponsoring our show
- 44:32Speaker 1: in town or something, like we're going to be in
- 44:35Speaker 1: Louisville and Wild and Bully Video is sponsoring us. The
- 44:38Speaker 1: one thing we started doing is a particularly graphic shot
- 44:43Speaker 1: in Handmade Love. And we'll pause it and say, you know,
- 44:48Speaker 1: I think this is a good opportunity to say thanks
- 44:50Speaker 1: for coming out. And thanks to, you know, Wild and
- 44:55Speaker 1: Bully Video and their ultimately they're sponsoring the show and
- 44:58Speaker 1: are responsible for everything you see on screen tonight. And
- 45:02Speaker 1: we just take way too long to do these thank
- 45:04Speaker 1: yous while there's something that most people don't want to
- 45:07Speaker 1: look at in close-up. And I don't know, it's almost
- 45:10Speaker 1: a sadistic thing. But, you know, we suffer through videotapes.
- 45:15Speaker 1: We kind of, I don't know if we enjoy torturing people,
- 45:19Speaker 1: but we, there's part of it.
- 45:22Speaker 8: I appreciate your sadism, so. Thank you. I think I
- 45:27Speaker 8: do that with some of our stuff, too. I pick
- 45:29Speaker 8: some of the scariest movies and then make everybody else
- 45:31Speaker 8: watch it.
- 45:33Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of the fun, right?
- 45:35Speaker 8: It is the sharing in that misery. Yeah, I think
- 45:38Speaker 8: as movie fans, you sort of do that anyway. I
- 45:41Speaker 8: can't believe how bad this is. You have to watch it, too. Yeah, exactly.
- 45:47Speaker 1: We did one thing a few years ago called The
- 45:49Speaker 1: Boring Montage. You know, most of what we watch is
- 45:52Speaker 1: just the most dreadfully boring, not even entertainingly boring stuff
- 45:57Speaker 1: in the world. And we thought, well, give people a
- 46:00Speaker 1: little taste of what it's like. So we picked out
- 46:03Speaker 1: the most boring parts from the most boring videos we'd
- 46:05Speaker 1: ever found, like a video called Adventures in Management and,
- 46:10Speaker 1: you know, like a conference call that was taped on
- 46:12Speaker 1: a camcorder and things like that. And we played just
- 46:15Speaker 1: little snippets from them. And we did that, and nobody
- 46:19Speaker 1: liked it. No one liked it at all. And then
- 46:22Speaker 1: we thought, well, let's put up a little window in
- 46:24Speaker 1: the corner that has exciting footage, like a fire-breathing, car-eating
- 46:29Speaker 1: monster truck thing. Footage tape we found in a topless
- 46:34Speaker 1: arm wrestling video at Motocross and stuff. So we put
- 46:37Speaker 1: that in the corner. So if you got too bored,
- 46:39Speaker 1: you'd have something else to look at. But even that
- 46:43Speaker 1: didn't help.
- 46:43Speaker 8: Yeah, you guys have to suffer through a lot of that,
- 46:46Speaker 8: because having seen more instructional videos than I need to
- 46:51Speaker 8: back at work, I've avoided them in my personal life.
- 46:54Speaker 8: But there were so many of them, we're like, okay,
- 46:56Speaker 8: we have to at least know what this is. Yeah,
- 46:59Speaker 8: there's so much downtime on those. Like, even to get
- 47:01Speaker 8: to the funny parts, you've got to sit through 45
- 47:03Speaker 8: minutes of boredom.
- 47:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true. I mean, sometimes you'll watch an
- 47:09Speaker 1: entire video, We found this crafting instructional video called The
- 47:14Speaker 1: Magical Rainbow Sponge that's in the new show. It actually
- 47:18Speaker 1: kicks off the current show. We watched the whole thing.
- 47:23Speaker 1: It was about an hour long. We're like, well, it's
- 47:25Speaker 1: kind of a boring instructional tape for this crafting technique.
- 47:30Speaker 1: But then we thought the host was funny, but it
- 47:34Speaker 1: wasn't until after we watched the entire thing without fast-forwarding
- 47:38Speaker 1: that we realized, you know what, she gets way too
- 47:41Speaker 1: excited about these crafting things she's doing, like way too excited.
- 47:46Speaker 1: So we went through and we watched it again, and
- 47:48Speaker 1: we realized she does all these little excited little yelps
- 47:52Speaker 1: and saying, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, whenever she's making,
- 47:57Speaker 1: you know, using the sponge to paint different patterns of
- 48:02Speaker 1: paint on paper. And so we thought, what if we
- 48:04Speaker 1: just cut all those together in a row? Just the
- 48:07Speaker 1: part where she's squealing with delight at what she's done.
- 48:10Speaker 1: And it turned out to be really funny. But, you know,
- 48:12Speaker 1: you don't even realize it until after you've seen the
- 48:15Speaker 1: whole thing. So you do have to suffer quite a
- 48:19Speaker 1: bit sometimes before the true what you're looking for reveals itself.
- 48:24Speaker 8: Nobody should get that excited about a sponge.
- 48:26Speaker 1: No, no.
- 48:28Speaker 8: Certainly not a crafting.
- 48:29Speaker 1: Sponge, I mean.
- 48:30Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 48:31Speaker 1: This one just, I mean... There's a point where it
- 48:33Speaker 1: sounds sexual, where she's just almost orgasmic with delight over
- 48:39Speaker 1: this craft sponging technique. She really likes it. But I'm
- 48:44Speaker 1: almost envious. I don't get excited about anything in life
- 48:47Speaker 1: as much as she does about these sponging patterns. What
- 48:51Speaker 1: am I doing wrong? I wish I had that enthusiasm anymore,
- 48:55Speaker 1: but it's been beaten out of me by all these tapes,
- 48:57Speaker 1: I think.
- 48:58Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I certainly feel that way, too. Well, I mean,
- 49:02Speaker 8: you've been touring around and having the shows for years.
- 49:05Speaker 8: What I was kind of wondering is the fan base
- 49:09Speaker 8: that you've sort of created doing this, especially over the years,
- 49:12Speaker 8: it's like, what is that like? Because I know just
- 49:15Speaker 8: dealing with movie geeks normally, you've got nothing, but like,
- 49:18Speaker 8: when they get together, it's just constant references and quotes and, like,
- 49:22Speaker 8: they barely exist in the real world. When they're together,
- 49:25Speaker 8: it's like a whole different thing. So, like, what is
- 49:27Speaker 8: that like for you?
- 49:31Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, well, it is kind of a weird
- 49:33Speaker 1: thing because, you know, everybody has these sort of things
- 49:36Speaker 1: you do with your friends and these inside jokes. But
- 49:39Speaker 1: now all the inside jokes that Joe and I had
- 49:41Speaker 1: and our friends had are public because everybody else who
- 49:45Speaker 1: likes the show does them too. So all these things
- 49:48Speaker 1: that we quote, you know, I have just found their
- 49:51Speaker 1: way into other people's lexicons now too. So it's weird
- 49:54Speaker 1: when somebody that you don't know or maybe you just
- 49:57Speaker 1: meet after a show will come up and start quoting
- 50:01Speaker 1: something to you and you're like, how do you know that?
- 50:03Speaker 1: And they're like, oh yeah, this is.
- 50:05Speaker 8: I keep showing it to people.
- 50:07Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So it's very strange, but it's fun, too.
- 50:12Speaker 1: It's almost like this collegial atmosphere. And, you know, for us,
- 50:15Speaker 1: the thing that's missing from YouTube, and certainly, like, it's great.
- 50:19Speaker 1: I mean, you have all these crazy videos that would
- 50:21Speaker 1: never otherwise surface. So we're not knocking YouTube. But the
- 50:26Speaker 1: thing you miss from that is you don't have the
- 50:29Speaker 1: communal aspect of it. I mean, you've read YouTube comments.
- 50:32Speaker 1: That's not a community. That's, you know.
- 50:34Speaker 8: That's just people cursing, usually.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Yeah, see, what you miss is getting people in a
- 50:40Speaker 1: room together and watching whatever it is, a bad movie
- 50:45Speaker 1: or this footage that, in our case, that you're not
- 50:48Speaker 1: really supposed to be watching in public, or, you know,
- 50:51Speaker 1: it's not meant to be watched in that context, but
- 50:53Speaker 1: here you are with a group of a bunch of people,
- 50:56Speaker 1: and especially with our show where you're projecting it on
- 51:00Speaker 1: a big screen somewhere. in a place that serves beer, usually,
- 51:04Speaker 1: and you're giving people permission to laugh at, for example,
- 51:08Speaker 1: a training video that's similar to one you had to
- 51:10Speaker 1: watch where you couldn't laugh, you know? So it's almost
- 51:13Speaker 1: cathartic in a way, and it's contagious, and it's kind
- 51:17Speaker 1: of like this communal thing, this sort of happening that
- 51:21Speaker 1: everybody's sharing. And I think that's why, even in the
- 51:25Speaker 1: age of YouTube, people will come see our show and
- 51:29Speaker 1: and even, like, screenings of things like The Room, and,
- 51:32Speaker 1: you know, because it's about that experience of being together
- 51:36Speaker 1: and doing it, and experiencing it, rather than just watching
- 51:39Speaker 1: it on a little two-inch window on your laptop.
- 51:42Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's, in all kinds of movies now,
- 51:45Speaker 8: that's coming back, because so many people aren't going to
- 51:48Speaker 8: the theater normally, even just to see movies. You can
- 51:51Speaker 8: watch them on demand, or you can just, you know,
- 51:54Speaker 8: wait until they hit Netflix or whatever. I think a
- 51:56Speaker 8: lot of that normal viewing has gone down. But when
- 51:59Speaker 8: you can add a show level to it, when you
- 52:02Speaker 8: actually have, like, a communal experience going on and interactive
- 52:06Speaker 8: kind of stuff, I think that keeps bringing people out.
- 52:08Speaker 8: And I think that's sort of finding a whole new
- 52:11Speaker 8: rush these days because, yeah, it's something that people don't
- 52:15Speaker 8: get sitting at home watching the other 95% of stuff
- 52:17Speaker 8: they watch.
- 52:18Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's encouraging, I think.
- 52:20Speaker 10: And, um.
- 52:21Speaker 1: And for us, I think more accidental than anything else. Like,
- 52:24Speaker 1: it wasn't some grand design. Like, let's bring this community together.
- 52:27Speaker 1: It was more just like, this is what you do. Like,
- 52:29Speaker 1: that's how we grew up was sharing these goofy finds
- 52:33Speaker 1: with people and somebody's, whoever had the biggest living room
- 52:36Speaker 1: or the biggest TV or, you know. And now it's
- 52:40Speaker 1: just doing that same thing, but for strangers in a
- 52:43Speaker 1: bigger venue with a bigger screen. And that almost amplifies
- 52:47Speaker 1: how funny it is. You know, you're watching a a
- 52:50Speaker 1: training video that was supposed to be watched on a
- 52:53Speaker 1: little break room TV VCR unit, and you're watching it
- 52:58Speaker 1: on the 60-foot screen in a movie theater or some
- 53:03Speaker 1: other performance venue. Sometimes we'll be sitting there watching it
- 53:07Speaker 1: being like, I can't believe that this video that we
- 53:11Speaker 1: found in a garbage can, and here we are playing
- 53:14Speaker 1: this at this grand movie palace or whatever. you know,
- 53:17Speaker 1: in Paris. You know, it's the strangest thing, but I think, yeah,
- 53:22Speaker 1: I think we just got lucky in that people were
- 53:24Speaker 1: ready to kind of have that experience again.
- 53:26Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess you would have to say that. I mean,
- 53:29Speaker 8: sitting there going, I can't believe we get to do this.
- 53:32Speaker 8: And other people enjoy it, too. Yeah.
- 53:35Speaker 1: It is very weird. I mean, everybody has their little
- 53:38Speaker 1: inside things, and certainly, like, most of our comedy projects
- 53:41Speaker 1: over the years have not found a huge audience. I mean,
- 53:45Speaker 1: the documentary that we made that we spent five years
- 53:48Speaker 1: of our life making that we ended up funding with
- 53:51Speaker 1: the Found Footage Festival. You know, it's on Netflix, but
- 53:55Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people have seen it.
- 53:56Speaker 1: We're proud of it, but it wasn't widely seen. But this,
- 53:59Speaker 1: you know, goofy little hobby we did is now this
- 54:03Speaker 1: thing that we do for a living. It's very strange,
- 54:06Speaker 1: but it's pretty fun.
- 54:09Speaker 8: I guess this, as long as it's going on and
- 54:11Speaker 8: people are enjoying it, you will continue to do it.
- 54:13Speaker 8: I mean, you have... written and directed and, and, you know,
- 54:16Speaker 8: different types of projects. Is that something you want to
- 54:19Speaker 8: continue doing or, or at some point see yourself moving into,
- 54:23Speaker 8: you know, exclusively?
- 54:25Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean, definitely we're, we continue to do
- 54:28Speaker 1: things and direct videos and, um, you know, it's on
- 54:31Speaker 1: footage festivals, like the other, other work, like, uh, there's
- 54:34Speaker 1: a film festival in Brooklyn. They just hired us to
- 54:36Speaker 1: make a, uh, intro to the, all the movies that
- 54:40Speaker 1: play this year. So, uh, You know, we're doing a
- 54:44Speaker 1: countdown to it using exercise video reps, you know, like 10, 9,
- 54:49Speaker 1: pump it, you know, that kind of thing. But in addition,
- 54:53Speaker 1: we do other comedy films and projects like that. So
- 54:59Speaker 1: I think we'll continue to be doing that. And we're
- 55:03Speaker 1: also pursuing the Sound British Festival, like, to see what
- 55:06Speaker 1: else we can do with it. Like, we're on the road.
- 55:09Speaker 1: We've been on the road for about... 13 months now
- 55:11Speaker 1: with this new show. And it's been great. We've found
- 55:14Speaker 1: a lot of videos. We've been to, I think, 12
- 55:18Speaker 1: different countries with it. And, um, uh, all 50 states.
- 55:23Speaker 1: We have five left under 50 state tours. So, um,
- 55:28Speaker 1: it's been amazing, but, uh, we're ready to kind of
- 55:30Speaker 1: maybe find a way to get it out to people
- 55:33Speaker 1: without having to tour so much. So we're working on, um,
- 55:36Speaker 1: we've got the book out, but we're working on a
- 55:38Speaker 1: television show too, that, uh, we hope sees the light
- 55:42Speaker 1: of day, but we didn't, we're not sure. And, uh, and,
- 55:45Speaker 1: and yeah, we're just pursuing other things like that.
- 55:48Speaker 8: That's, that's cool.
- 55:49Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 55:49Speaker 8: I mean, you would think with this many years of
- 55:51Speaker 8: doing it in this year, you would start to run
- 55:52Speaker 8: out of stuff, but there was just such a, just
- 55:56Speaker 8: mass production of VHS stuff. Like it, it's, it's amazing
- 56:00Speaker 8: how much is out there that people don't know about
- 56:03Speaker 8: and hasn't seen the light of day and, and weird
- 56:05Speaker 8: personal videos. And yeah, so, uh, I guess really even
- 56:09Speaker 8: this far in, there's no danger of running out of stuff.
- 56:12Speaker 1: Yeah, not that we're seeing. I mean, we're finding fewer
- 56:16Speaker 1: videos that we haven't seen already. I think that's just
- 56:19Speaker 1: because we've been collecting for over 20 years, so we've
- 56:22Speaker 1: kind of seen it all. But when you find a
- 56:24Speaker 1: unique video, it's incredible. And we still find a lot
- 56:27Speaker 1: of them. We just spent over $ 100 on videos that
- 56:31Speaker 1: were a dollar a piece. So we got over 100
- 56:33Speaker 1: videos at a thrift store in Memphis yesterday. And they're
- 56:36Speaker 1: all stuff that we'd never seen, hand-labeled videos and other
- 56:39Speaker 1: things that were unique. And so, yeah, eventually maybe we'll
- 56:45Speaker 1: dry up. I mean, we have talked to people who
- 56:48Speaker 1: work at thrift stores who say that they're not even
- 56:51Speaker 1: accepting VHS as a donation anymore because nobody buys them.
- 56:55Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
- 56:55Speaker 1: And we always say, please reconsider. It's very nice. But,
- 56:59Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the main reason we were
- 57:01Speaker 1: super ambitious with this tour over the last year is
- 57:04Speaker 1: because we want to hit everywhere we can before these
- 57:08Speaker 1: things are, you know, just gone forever. So that sort
- 57:13Speaker 1: of lit a fire under us. But, you know, I
- 57:16Speaker 1: think what's cool about VHS and what people forget is
- 57:20Speaker 1: how revolutionary it was when it came out and how
- 57:22Speaker 1: it's kind of a unique moment in time that would
- 57:26Speaker 1: be hard to replicate in this day and age, but
- 57:29Speaker 1: You know, like I mentioned, when VCRs came out, you
- 57:33Speaker 1: could have video and movies and stuff in your home
- 57:36Speaker 1: and stop them whenever you wanted. You couldn't do that before, really,
- 57:40Speaker 1: without spooling up a film reel. And it became so
- 57:43Speaker 1: cheap and affordable to do. And then, you know, one
- 57:47Speaker 1: of the first videos that was priced for the home
- 57:49Speaker 1: video market that wasn't priced, you know, like $ 170 for
- 57:52Speaker 1: a video store.
- 57:55Speaker 1: Was James Fonda's Workout. I think it was 1982. And
- 57:59Speaker 1: it sold millions of copies. And that was... I think
- 58:03Speaker 1: that was basically what started the gold rush. You know,
- 58:06Speaker 1: it was like all these mom-and-pop operations. So, well, let's
- 58:09Speaker 1: get into the home video business. It seems affordable. And so,
- 58:14Speaker 1: because of that, you got... Not only did VCRs reach
- 58:17Speaker 1: market saturation, you know, like everybody had one in their home,
- 58:21Speaker 1: but it was cheap to make them.
- 58:23Speaker 4: So.
- 58:24Speaker 1: you've got all these weird esoteric things and people just
- 58:27Speaker 1: throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what's stuck. So
- 58:30Speaker 1: you've got things like video fireplaces and, you know, I
- 58:34Speaker 1: remember those. Video cat sitter. Show things that'll entertain your
- 58:38Speaker 1: cat while you're at work, you know, and just really weird.
- 58:44Speaker 1: You know, we have a video called Rent a Friend,
- 58:46Speaker 1: which is like if you're lonely, you put this in
- 58:48Speaker 1: and the guy on screen is your virtual friend for
- 58:50Speaker 1: an hour.
- 58:51Speaker 8: Okay, that's sad.
- 58:52Speaker 1: You know, things that you just cannot believe.
- 58:56Speaker 8: That's sad. Yeah. I think it really was a revolutionary
- 59:02Speaker 8: time and something that definitely can't happen again because we're
- 59:06Speaker 8: so saturated with media at this point that there wasn't
- 59:11Speaker 8: anything like that before, and I don't know. I mean,
- 59:14Speaker 8: the closest thing to it, I guess, would be when
- 59:16Speaker 8: the Internet hit, and it completely took over that scene. But,
- 59:20Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think anything has had that much
- 59:22Speaker 8: impact short of the Internet hitting on society.
- 59:26Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I mean, the occasional things will slip
- 59:29Speaker 1: out where people sort of lack that self-awareness and that
- 59:33Speaker 1: you'll find that on the Internet. So when it does,
- 59:36Speaker 1: it's really refreshing. You know, like there's that whole thing
- 59:38Speaker 1: of like old people trying to use webcams, you know,
- 59:41Speaker 1: and the reason that was like a meme was because
- 59:44Speaker 1: these are people who are not self-aware and didn't, you know,
- 59:48Speaker 1: weren't super savvy with the technology. And it was refreshing.
- 59:52Speaker 1: And that's what's so great about VHS is there's sort
- 59:54Speaker 1: of this wide-eyed innocence, this sort of naivete about the
- 59:57Speaker 1: format and about how things work that it would be
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: hard to duplicate in an Internet age where everyone's usually
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: very aware that what they're doing may be seen by
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: the world, maybe, you know, there's no... And they just,
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: you know, the fact that every laptop has a built-in
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: webcam now, it's... you have to be aware of how
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: you use those things and aware of irony and all
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: those things in the internet age. So, I mean, I
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: guess if there's any good news, it's that formats change,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: but bad ideas don't. They'll always be around. So, if
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: there's a place for it to evolve, it will involve
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: people with, you know, a lot of ambition and maybe
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: questionable talent. That's sort of the, a combination with Tom
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: comes up quite a bit in our show, and that
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: still exists.
- 1:00:46Speaker 8: Today, too. Oh, yeah. That'll never go away.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Thank God.
- 1:00:53Speaker 8: Well, we just kind of do a lot of general,
- 1:00:56Speaker 8: you know, different types of movie talk. I guess in general,
- 1:00:58Speaker 8: I wanted to just sort of see what your, outside
- 1:01:02Speaker 8: of the insanity of the stuff that ends up in
- 1:01:05Speaker 8: the show, what your taste in movies is. Like, what
- 1:01:08Speaker 8: are some of the things that you like to watch
- 1:01:10Speaker 8: just as a somewhat regular movie as regular as we
- 1:01:13Speaker 8: can get when you've seen this much stuff.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: I mostly, I mostly watch documentaries. Um, like I, I,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: I mean, I just, I see a lot of those
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: in the theater still. I'll go see those. Um, you know,
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: I really like, uh, American movie and King of Kong and,
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: you know, the less blank, uh, documentaries and things like that.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: So that was one thing early on that I was
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: really into and why I was inspired to make, uh,
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: feature length documentary with Joe so I still do watch
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: a lot of those yeah I thought last year one
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: of my favorite movies was the forgetting the name of
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: it about the people who bought the huge house in
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Florida and then they economy tanked and they had to
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: they were trying to sell it oh Queen of Versailles
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: loved that movie thought it was a fascinating character study Um,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: and I appreciate, like, I guess maybe that's my taste
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: in things that are more real in, uh, uh, but, um,
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: but yeah, other than that, I watch a lot of, um,
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: independent movies and foreign and, and, uh, you know, and
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: I'll go see the Avengers and stuff like that. So
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: I do, you know, watch about a movie a week
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: in the theater when I, whenever I can.
- 1:02:33Speaker 8: So, um, I guess the documentaries, especially those type of documentaries,
- 1:02:39Speaker 8: it doesn't surprise me because that's almost that same thing
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: we were talking about of being unaware. It's like most
- 1:02:44Speaker 8: of those, they set out to make one movie and
- 1:02:47Speaker 8: they end up just stumbling upon this much bigger story.
- 1:02:51Speaker 8: And some of those are perfect examples of that type
- 1:02:54Speaker 8: of thing, which is, again, what you find in what
- 1:02:57Speaker 8: you do anyway.
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think there's a connection there. I mean,
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: I really like Errol Morris and the Maisels and all
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: those sort of documentarians or.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: Big influences and big appreciators of them growing up.
- 1:03:14Speaker 8: Definitely. Well, yeah, as you said, you've been out on
- 1:03:17Speaker 8: this tour for quite a while now. Is that the
- 1:03:21Speaker 8: most you want to do is just kind of get
- 1:03:23Speaker 8: the word out about the tour and tell people to
- 1:03:25Speaker 8: go find you that way?
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the call to action I
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: always have is that Joe and I can only be
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: in one place at a time. It's usually only for
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: an afternoon. So we're hitting thrift stores and looking for
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: VHS tapes whenever we're in a new city. But I
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: would just say that if you go to a thrift store,
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: check out their VHS section. If there's anything that looks interesting, funny,
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: or weird, let us know about it. Our website is foundfootagefest.com,
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: and we've got an email on there and actually our
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: physical address, too, in Queens.
- 1:04:00Speaker 8: Cool.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: We love it when we get a package of videos
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: in the mail. It's like Christmas morning for us. We
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: tear it open and can't wait to see what's inside. So, yeah,
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: we'll give these videos a good home. So that will
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: be my main thing. And, you know, we continue to
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: tour and probably are coming somewhere near wherever you're listening
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: to this.
- 1:04:25Speaker 10: So.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: go to our website, find out when we're going to
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: be in your town, and if we're not in your town,
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: email us, and we'll come there.
- 1:04:32Speaker 8: Yeah, I always try to look at the VHS in
- 1:04:35Speaker 8: the Goodwills and stuff like that, but yeah, it's just
- 1:04:37Speaker 8: getting sad anymore. It's all that very last run of stuff,
- 1:04:42Speaker 8: stuff that was like, wow, I didn't even know they
- 1:04:43Speaker 8: put this on VHS. That's about all that's left.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's these, and we always see the
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: same tapes, like you see, kind of Air Force One,
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: that had a huge, must have just gotten a huge
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: distribution on VHS. And it was a movie that's ultimately
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: pretty forgettable. So that's straight off to the thrift store.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: There's a children's movie called The Buttercream Gang, which in
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: our early days, we'd pick that up because there's like
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: this group of kids on it. It looks like a
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: stupid kids movie, but it's just a boring kids movie
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: is what it is. And we see it at every
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: single thrift store. I mean, you go to, I'm sure
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: if you went to a thrift store in Louisville, you
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: would find at least one copy of The Buttercream Gang.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: They're just littering thrift stores all over the country. I
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: feel like there must have been this free thing that
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: churches handed out or something. I have no idea why
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: this found such wide distribution, but it's a running joke
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: between Joe and I, where it's just like, hey, what
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: do you know? They've got a buttercream gang.
- 1:05:44Speaker 8: Yeah, sometimes they give that stuff away. That's why you
- 1:05:48Speaker 8: saw an abundance in that first wave of DVDs. there
- 1:05:52Speaker 8: was a huge, and it would be an every used
- 1:05:54Speaker 8: DVD shop, would be Stepmom with Julia Robertson.
- 1:05:59Speaker 13: Oh, yes.
- 1:06:00Speaker 8: Because they gave them away with the DVD players. And
- 1:06:03Speaker 8: like before the secondhand places started to realize that, they
- 1:06:06Speaker 8: were just like, wow, we sure are getting a lot
- 1:06:08Speaker 8: of it. And there'd be like six of them and
- 1:06:09Speaker 8: everyone would go to it. It's like, it's because everybody
- 1:06:12Speaker 8: got it for free, didn't want it, and turned around
- 1:06:14Speaker 8: and tried to go get another movie for it. So
- 1:06:17Speaker 8: I'm sure the VHS was the same thing.
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I think for that same reason you find, like,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: a lot of, like, we find Babes in Toyland, or
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: Toys in Babeland. I'm sorry.
- 1:06:29Speaker 8: I rented that one. That's a different one.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: But, yeah, Babes in Toyland with Keanu Reeves and I
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: think Phoebe Cates or something.
- 1:06:36Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: It's a really unremarkable movie, but McDonald's was giving those away. Like,
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: if you bought, like, a value meal in the 80s,
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: you could either buy that Mr. Mom, or one other movie.
- 1:06:49Speaker 8: There was a Wayne's World run of that, too. Yeah,
- 1:06:52Speaker 8: that's why there were so many of those. Back to
- 1:06:54Speaker 8: Wayne's World.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Exactly. So it is, you know, it's one of those
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: anthropological things, like, you know, I think the most common
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: CD you find at a used CD store is Please
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: Hammer Don't Hurt Him. So it's interesting to me, like,
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: what has staying power and what doesn't? What's immediately at
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: the thrift store and And then also what's on the
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: widest distribution. You can tell those things by just looking
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: at your local thrift store.
- 1:07:20Speaker 8: Yeah, I have noticed that in CDs and movies. Yeah,
- 1:07:23Speaker 8: you can tell what... It's pretty fascinating. Yeah, and almost
- 1:07:27Speaker 8: in a way it has its own staying power. It
- 1:07:30Speaker 8: will always stay at the thrift store. So it's like
- 1:07:33Speaker 8: you'll always have access to it until you just totally
- 1:07:36Speaker 8: melt them all down, I suppose.
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: Right, yeah, it's not going anywhere.
- 1:07:39Speaker 10: So....
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: I guess at least those will be like the cockroaches
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: that survived the apocalypse will be Babes in Toyland and Mr.
- 1:07:49Speaker 8: Mom. That's true. We'll be in an underground bunker somewhere
- 1:07:52Speaker 8: surrounded by cockroaches watching Mr.
- 1:07:54Speaker 10: Mom.
- 1:07:55Speaker 8: That doesn't sound too bad, really.
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: That doesn't sound too bad. Yeah, Michael Keaton, I could
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: deal with that.
- 1:08:00Speaker 8: That's a classic, man. I can watch that with cockroaches.
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: Yeah, Toys in Babeland would be its own form of hell,
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: or Babes in Toyland. Why do I keep.
- 1:08:09Speaker 8: You just like hitting the behind the curtain room. That's
- 1:08:11Speaker 8: what she's on.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Somehow the... I don't know if it's a national, I
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: think it's just a New York sex shop called Toys
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: and Babelands. And for some reason, that's taken the first
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: seating in my brain.
- 1:08:25Speaker 8: For some reason.
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Yeah, for some reason. I don't know. Maybe I just
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: walked by it. I don't know.
- 1:08:31Speaker 8: Well, yeah, we could definitely, yeah, foundfootagefest.com and tell people
- 1:08:36Speaker 8: to send you videotapes and go there and figure out
- 1:08:40Speaker 8: what the schedule is and come out and see you live.
- 1:08:43Speaker 8: Sounds like a plan.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. It's a really hard show to describe,
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: but I think your listeners will get it. Definitely. And
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: once people go, I think they instantly get what it
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: is and enjoy it. And a lot of times people
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: will bring friends, like, the next time it comes. town
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: or something and it's grown that way and it's super
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: cool to be part of this community that sprung up
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: sort of by accident. I mean it's a really encouraging
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: thing to think about this goofy thing that you thought
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: made only you and your friends laugh and to find
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: out that there's a lot of other weirdos too that
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: enjoy this kind of material so so yeah I would
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: I would encourage people to just come check.
- 1:09:24Speaker 8: It out definitely that sounds good well thanks for talking
- 1:09:28Speaker 8: to us and I think that is about.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: It thanks for having me this is.
- 1:09:31Speaker 5: My way of saying goodbye cause I can do my
- 1:09:39Speaker 5: face to face and.
- 1:09:40Speaker 12: Talking to.
- 1:10:17Speaker 9: I just don't understand how, like, you have to teach
- 1:10:20Speaker 9: people to masturbate. Like, I just can't get over that.
- 1:10:23Speaker 7: Are you forgetting that they were mentally challenged?
- 1:10:25Speaker 9: But even mentally challenged people, like... From what I understand, well,
- 1:10:30Speaker 9: and from things I've witnessed, don't have to be shown
- 1:10:34Speaker 9: that they have certain body parts and what they can
- 1:10:36Speaker 9: do with those body parts.
- 1:10:37Speaker 7: Well, many of them are masturbating, but only at a
- 1:10:41Speaker 7: fourth grade level.
- 1:10:45Speaker 8: We really need to master the technique. No pun intended. Okay, fine.
- 1:10:49Speaker 8: Pun intended.
- 1:10:49Speaker 10: Whatever.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: When she was saying that, R. Kelly's voice comes in
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: my head. And says, I can top that. I can
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: top that shit. So my friend, maybe you should bleep
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: his name out, although I don't think he would be
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: ashamed of this. He used to work with special people.
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: And for some reason, there was like it was like
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: a home for people that kind of lived like assisted,
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: but sort of on their own. And there is a
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: married couple that some of the orderlies would have to
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: help have sex. They would have to, like, put her
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: on top of him and, like, move her. I'm just like,
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: if you can't do it, you can't do it.
- 1:11:27Speaker 7: I don't know. There are actually, like, international laws about that.
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: And they feel that it's, like, something people have a
- 1:11:35Speaker 7: right to do.
- 1:11:36Speaker 8: But if you don't know how to.
- 1:11:38Speaker 7: Well, then you need help. That's what people are in
- 1:11:42Speaker 7: the profession for. forest to help people have a rewarding life.
- 1:11:48Speaker 9: I just wonder if one of these videos could have
- 1:11:49Speaker 9: assisted them. It's sad that they didn't have access to it,
- 1:11:54Speaker 9: I guess. I don't understand. If you can't do it,
- 1:11:59Speaker 9: I don't know that a training video is going to help.
- 1:12:05Speaker 8: More importantly, where do I sign up for this? I
- 1:12:08Speaker 8: think I might need help. Somebody... Needs to supply a woman. Anyway,
- 1:12:19Speaker 8: somebody get a hold of me with the details. Yeah,
- 1:12:22Speaker 8: so we're back. Thank you to Nick for giving us
- 1:12:28Speaker 8: the details of the putting together this festival, which it
- 1:12:33Speaker 8: is amazing, like, that it's come together. The way that
- 1:12:36Speaker 8: it has is, like, organically as it has, and then
- 1:12:39Speaker 8: it's grown into this thing that, like, so many people
- 1:12:42Speaker 8: kind of respond to now it's it's pretty amazing it.
- 1:12:45Speaker 7: Was a lot more fun than i expected you hear
- 1:12:48Speaker 7: like found footage and it's yeah okay i found footage
- 1:12:54Speaker 7: it was funny but they had a really tightly edited
- 1:13:00Speaker 7: uh horrifying and delightful program.
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: I just expected it to be, like, banal and possibly
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: sometimes awkward found footage. But every second was fucking hilarious.
- 1:13:13Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: Emphasis on the fucking part. Because it was hilarious. I mean,
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: I almost peed. I think everybody did. I mean, it
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: was really funny.
- 1:13:23Speaker 9: Except for the wound.
- 1:13:24Speaker 8: What was it?
- 1:13:24Speaker 9: Wound rounds live or whatever? That wasn't hilarious. It was
- 1:13:30Speaker 9: really disturbing. And I think I gagged. I might have
- 1:13:34Speaker 9: thrown up.
- 1:13:34Speaker 11: A little bit.
- 1:13:35Speaker 9: They did.
- 1:13:35Speaker 7: And they landed on what was it?
- 1:13:37Speaker 9: Wheel of Wounds. Diabetic foot ulcer. Yeah.
- 1:13:41Speaker 8: Wait, you didn't do the dance.
- 1:13:44Speaker 7: The crowd was like, yes!
- 1:13:46Speaker 9: I think I need to watch that other training video
- 1:13:48Speaker 9: of the guy dancing to be able to master that dance.
- 1:13:53Speaker 8: I disagree. I think that one was very funny, actually. Again,
- 1:13:57Speaker 8: when they started showing the footage, I was like, oh,
- 1:13:59Speaker 8: this is just going to gross people out. But when
- 1:14:01Speaker 8: they spin the wheel of wounds and the guy starts
- 1:14:04Speaker 8: climbing out of the diabetic foot ulcer. I'm not making
- 1:14:08Speaker 8: that up. Go see the show. He does it. And
- 1:14:11Speaker 8: it's not just a bad cutout graphic. It moves with him.
- 1:14:15Speaker 7: They went to some trouble for their special effects.
- 1:14:18Speaker 8: Not really good trouble because it still looks bad, but
- 1:14:20Speaker 8: the fact that they bothered to make it creepily move, yeah,
- 1:14:24Speaker 8: it's really disturbing.
- 1:14:25Speaker 9: I think there were sound effects too, wasn't there? Like
- 1:14:28Speaker 9: the gushiness of the wound.
- 1:14:30Speaker 7: I couldn't tell if that was a sound effect or
- 1:14:33Speaker 7: it was just the noises of people squishing their faces
- 1:14:36Speaker 7: in agony.
- 1:14:38Speaker 9: It was probably mine you heard.
- 1:14:40Speaker 8: Or just leftovers of that birth explosion from the beginning.
- 1:14:47Speaker 7: Just to get the party started.
- 1:14:51Speaker 8: Birth explosion. My new band will be playing all over America.
- 1:14:54Speaker 7: What did they say? You can buy the DVD if
- 1:14:56Speaker 7: you want to ruin your next party.
- 1:14:59Speaker 8: That would do it, actually.
- 1:15:00Speaker 9: What about for the non-official opener?
- 1:15:03Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. That one. Any of these will probably, but
- 1:15:07Speaker 8: the birth will definitely ruin your party. The wounds won't
- 1:15:10Speaker 8: help either, really, but it's still pretty funny because everybody
- 1:15:13Speaker 8: could do that little dance that the guy does.
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good.
- 1:15:18Speaker 7: Didn't he look like somebody in the Bush administration? Who
- 1:15:21Speaker 7: was it?
- 1:15:21Speaker 8: Every guy in the Bush administration. He did.
- 1:15:23Speaker 7: He looked like everybody in the Bush administration, and he
- 1:15:27Speaker 7: seemed really happy.
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: To be there.
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: I thought the guy that was doing the... the guitar
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: finger exercises. It looked like John Waters dressed as Riff
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: Raff from Rocky Horror Picture Show.
- 1:15:39Speaker 7: Yeah, good call.
- 1:15:41Speaker 8: I wouldn't put it past him. John might do that. Oh,
- 1:15:44Speaker 8: are there other classics we're forgetting?
- 1:15:46Speaker 7: I mean, there's... Yeah, well, there was the magic sponge.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: The possum massage.
- 1:15:52Speaker 7: The possum massage.
- 1:15:53Speaker 9: The Get Rich Quick videos. The one, especially, my favorite
- 1:15:57Speaker 9: was the one where she said that they didn't, like,
- 1:15:59Speaker 9: they specifically didn't hire someone and pay someone to make
- 1:16:02Speaker 9: it a flashy video. Because if you're rich, why would
- 1:16:05Speaker 9: you waste money doing that?
- 1:16:07Speaker 8: And we didn't notice that as it starts on the
- 1:16:09Speaker 8: trees in their backyard with the bad built-in 1982 credits
- 1:16:14Speaker 8: that are in your camera. Yeah, it was scary.
- 1:16:19Speaker 2: There's just so much. It's overwhelming. It has shorted all
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: my brain circuits.
- 1:16:24Speaker 7: There's the potty training video. I thought in the kids'
- 1:16:26Speaker 7: video section, they had a whole section of kids that
- 1:16:30Speaker 7: they might have It might include one of my favorites,
- 1:16:33Speaker 7: which is because they were talking about music and songs.
- 1:16:38Speaker 7: Somebody gave me once a VHS of The Adventures of
- 1:16:44Speaker 7: Young Moby Dick, which is a musical. And it's just
- 1:16:48Speaker 7: the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
- 1:16:50Speaker 9: So is this like a musical starring a baby whale?
- 1:16:54Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:16:55Speaker 9: So is he like, oh, I think I'm going to
- 1:16:57Speaker 9: need to watch this?
- 1:16:59Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really good. I think in the beginning, he can't...
- 1:17:05Speaker 7: What is it whales do? I don't know.
- 1:17:07Speaker 10: Whale?
- 1:17:09Speaker 7: He can't dive up out of the ocean or something.
- 1:17:15Speaker 7: He can't blessercise. And his mom is trying to encourage
- 1:17:19Speaker 7: him to do this. In a way, it's like the
- 1:17:21Speaker 7: movie Happiness, if you've ever seen that.
- 1:17:23Speaker 8: It's exactly like Happiness.
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:26Speaker 7: And there's like a starfish in it with a Mae
- 1:17:29Speaker 7: West voice. And it's young Moby Dick. It's the adventures
- 1:17:33Speaker 7: of young Moby Dick. And it's one of those like
- 1:17:35Speaker 7: little knockoff videos, usually with most of them have a
- 1:17:41Speaker 7: religious quality. And they try to knock off the big
- 1:17:44Speaker 7: Disney movies and look vaguely like them. But you can
- 1:17:47Speaker 7: buy them for like two dollars for your kid and
- 1:17:52Speaker 7: and ruin their lives.
- 1:17:55Speaker 8: I think this was sponsored by SeaWorld, though, because does
- 1:17:58Speaker 8: anybody aside from Shamu or the new incarnation of Shamu
- 1:18:01Speaker 8: actually do that jump in the air? In the natural world,
- 1:18:06Speaker 8: is that really going on, or is it just, hey, kids,
- 1:18:09Speaker 8: you'll never see this anywhere but SeaWorld. Come on over.
- 1:18:12Speaker 7: I don't know, Free Willy.
- 1:18:14Speaker 8: Once again, I think he was prompted by that weird
- 1:18:17Speaker 8: little child.
- 1:18:19Speaker 7: Prompted by a weird little child.
- 1:18:21Speaker 9: That Alaskan hermaphrodite or whatever it was that started.
- 1:18:24Speaker 8: It, maybe. What movie were you watching? That's a different
- 1:18:29Speaker 8: Free Willy that you rented. You went behind the curtain
- 1:18:31Speaker 8: and got Free Willy.
- 1:18:31Speaker 9: Okay. That's what was in that room.
- 1:18:35Speaker 10: Okay.
- 1:18:35Speaker 9: I didn't quite understand it. You were talking about having
- 1:18:38Speaker 9: a religious quality. Most of the videos that were shown tonight,
- 1:18:42Speaker 9: with the exception of the bluster size video, I have
- 1:18:45Speaker 9: viewed at some point in my life, mostly in my childhood.
- 1:18:50Speaker 9: you know I may have ran across them in my
- 1:18:52Speaker 9: adulthood and like been like oh let's let's watch this
- 1:18:54Speaker 9: again but they started out like the very first video
- 1:18:57Speaker 9: was the power team and it was these dudes that
- 1:18:59Speaker 9: used to travel around and like tell people about Jesus
- 1:19:02Speaker 9: and like blow up water bottles and phone books in
- 1:19:04Speaker 9: half and I remember my brother like being on some
- 1:19:08Speaker 9: kind of exercise program to be like them.
- 1:19:11Speaker 8: And so sad.
- 1:19:14Speaker 7: That's funny because I was listening to a storytelling podcast,
- 1:19:19Speaker 7: a live storytelling, and a guy who was a minister
- 1:19:23Speaker 7: told a story, and it was just fascinating because it
- 1:19:25Speaker 7: wasn't a very good story, but it had that quality
- 1:19:29Speaker 7: that while you never think he's lying or making anything up,
- 1:19:34Speaker 7: but it's clearly absolute bullshit from start to finish. It
- 1:19:38Speaker 7: has that quality like a sales pitch or something. And
- 1:19:42Speaker 7: then in the middle of the story, he tells the
- 1:19:44Speaker 7: story of how he tells the story of Easter. And
- 1:19:48Speaker 7: it's a Western or something. Why the fuck are you
- 1:19:53Speaker 7: dressing it up as Django Unchained? I don't know. It
- 1:19:57Speaker 7: makes no sense.
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: I've never seen across the universe, but I'm pretty sure...
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: That guy's pitch for Flower Power became across the universe.
- 1:20:05Speaker 8: Am I right? Flower Power was pretty amazing, I have
- 1:20:09Speaker 8: to say. I would have backed that guy.
- 1:20:13Speaker 7: Well, if for nothing else, just the umbilical cord guitar.
- 1:20:18Speaker 9: Which you can get if you contribute to the Kickstarter
- 1:20:22Speaker 9: fund to actually make this movie. So I want the
- 1:20:25Speaker 9: listeners to kind of consider that in there.
- 1:20:29Speaker 7: That was one of the things, and there were several,
- 1:20:31Speaker 7: that after they showed it, they assured everyone that that's
- 1:20:35Speaker 7: the last of that for the night. We won't have
- 1:20:38Speaker 7: to see any more of that.
- 1:20:41Speaker 8: Yeah, they were very scary topics, and I like that
- 1:20:44Speaker 8: they had multiples. Within the same show, they had several
- 1:20:48Speaker 8: appearances of certain things.
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: I mean, I really enjoy that there's footage out there for, like,
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: such specific things, like possum massaging and, like, Just, like,
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: how to carve a Santa face.
- 1:21:00Speaker 9: By Bosephus.
- 1:21:02Speaker 7: I actually thought that guy looked like Bono.
- 1:21:06Speaker 9: What was it carved into?
- 1:21:09Speaker 8: It's victim.
- 1:21:12Speaker 7: You find a hobo and carve him to look like Santa.
- 1:21:16Speaker 7: And then next week it's on wound rounds.
- 1:21:19Speaker 8: Do the dance. Do the dance. No, I was doing
- 1:21:22Speaker 8: the dance. Yeah, you guys heard that, right? Marlena is
- 1:21:28Speaker 8: doing the dance.
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: Check out the sweet moves.
- 1:21:33Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a blast.
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: This is a shame that this is not a public
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: access show because we could be almost as good as
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: Frank's weird dancing with the Italian dress or the French dressing,
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: I guess.
- 1:21:47Speaker 8: Dancing with Frank was... He was right. It's a train wreck,
- 1:21:52Speaker 8: and you can't look away. It's horrifying and confusing, and
- 1:21:57Speaker 8: I don't know what to do with it. But I'm
- 1:21:59Speaker 8: kind of glad I've seen it now. I don't know
- 1:22:01Speaker 8: what to do with it.
- 1:22:03Speaker 7: That's all right. I had two pieces already.
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: That was a big-ass cake. That's an ass cake.
- 1:22:18Speaker 8: You want to break off a piece of it?
- 1:22:21Speaker 9: Hey, ass cakes exist.
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: It's like cakes shaped like asses.
- 1:22:28Speaker 8: Sure it is.
- 1:22:29Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 1:22:31Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's something.
- 1:22:32Speaker 8: You know.
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to say it. I'm going to
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: get off topic.
- 1:22:35Speaker 7: No, now you have to say it. And now it's
- 1:22:37Speaker 7: time for a Marlena moment.
- 1:22:39Speaker 2: There's only... I recently took this sexuality class and I
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: only learned one new thing.
- 1:22:44Speaker 9: Why aren't.
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: You teaching that class? I don't know.
- 1:22:49Speaker 8: Maybe someday.
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: Maybe someday.
- 1:22:51Speaker 7: They should give you a refund.
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: But I'm only going to say, I'm not going to
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: explain what it is, but I'm just going to say
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: cream pie. And I feel really guilty for not knowing
- 1:22:59Speaker 2: what that meant. But my professor was really impressed because
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: he showed us. a Spice Girls music video and then
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: a Killers music video and asked what those two have
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: in common. And I said they were inspired by Russ
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: Meyer's Faster Pusket Kill Kill. So I got an A-plus
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: for the class. I mean, I earned that A-plus, but
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: I feel like he would have given it to me anyway.
- 1:23:20Speaker 7: Did you get the highest grade of anyone in the class?
- 1:23:23Speaker 5: I did!
- 1:23:24Speaker 7: I think people wanted to know that.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: Nerd.
- 1:23:28Speaker 8: Sexual nerd.
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: I was really proud because I went through a lot
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: of embarrassing moments for that 100% in that class because
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: when he's like, I feel like maybe sometimes his questions
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: were rhetorical, but when he's like, does anyone know what
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: bukkake means?
- 1:23:47Speaker 9: And I'm like, I do.
- 1:23:49Speaker 10: I do.
- 1:23:49Speaker 8: Throw your hand up.
- 1:23:50Speaker 5: Oh, oh, oh.
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: I earned that 100% with my awkward knowledge of things
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: like Cleveland Steamers.
- 1:23:57Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:23:58Speaker 8: Why doesn't someone make a video of you is what
- 1:24:01Speaker 8: I want to know. Because it needs its own festival.
- 1:24:04Speaker 4: I believe.
- 1:24:04Speaker 7: Is the comic book going to happen?
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to learn to draw.
- 1:24:08Speaker 10: Oh.
- 1:24:10Speaker 7: All right.
- 1:24:10Speaker 8: That's an installment in the show right there.
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: I've been working on it. I drew something on April 9th.
- 1:24:18Speaker 7: I saw you were shopping for drawing tables. Did you
- 1:24:22Speaker 7: get that drawing table?
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: No, it wasn't for sale.
- 1:24:25Speaker 7: Oh, that's right. Just stealing.
- 1:24:27Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: They do have a replica at World Market.
- 1:24:31Speaker 7: Yeah, you tell me.
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: It's $ 300, though.
- 1:24:33Speaker 7: I don't really need one because I have a drawing
- 1:24:35Speaker 7: table that I don't use.
- 1:24:36Speaker 8: I just use a table.
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: I made a desk out of a door and two
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: file cabinets, so.
- 1:24:40Speaker 8: Damn straight. That's how you do it.
- 1:24:42Speaker 7: Old school. I like those old, like, drawing benches. Like,
- 1:24:45Speaker 7: in life drawing, you stand them upright. So, I built one.
- 1:24:49Speaker 7: I couldn't find one to get the dimensions, so after
- 1:24:52Speaker 7: a couple years of thinking, I'll do this, I just, like,
- 1:24:55Speaker 7: fuck it, I'll make one. And I made it, and
- 1:24:58Speaker 7: now I just set stuff on it.
- 1:25:00Speaker 8: This has been making drawing benches with Fred.
- 1:25:02Speaker 7: Yeah, actually, I ought to do that video.
- 1:25:04Speaker 8: Be kind, rewind. You should.
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: Like, I've been waiting to get an accordion for, like,
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: years and years. And in a weird set of circumstances,
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: I acquired two in, like, a month. And I use
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: them as an end table. Both cases are stacked on
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: top of each other, and there's books sitting on top
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: of it.
- 1:25:24Speaker 8: This is issue three in the comic.
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: I'm like, I put my finger in too many pies.
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: This is my problem.
- 1:25:31Speaker 8: Back to the sexual reference.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: Too many pies.
- 1:25:35Speaker 9: Did any of them happen to be cream pies?
- 1:25:37Speaker 6: No.
- 1:25:41Speaker 8: I'm going to go eat my ass cake.
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: I don't have time for this. You can not put
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: that in the air. That was mostly for your all's enjoyment.
- 1:25:50Speaker 8: I think everyone enjoys your stories.
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: We're all friends here, and I want to share tidbits
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: about my life with you guys. And I forget that
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: we're on air.
- 1:25:59Speaker 7: I like how you don't remember them next week. But
- 1:26:02Speaker 7: everybody else does. Everybody else, remember that time, and you're like, oh, yeah.
- 1:26:07Speaker 8: Yeah, actually. You know what's really hilarious?
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: I have an excellent memory. Like, I almost never forget
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: anything except things that happened to me. But if I
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: had to read it, if you were to, like, if
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: someone were to, like, transcribe everything that I say and
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: I read it afterwards, I would never forget it ever.
- 1:26:22Speaker 2: But since it happened to me and I told the story,
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: I'm just going to forget that it happened.
- 1:26:27Speaker 9: You just kind of released it.
- 1:26:29Speaker 6: I know.
- 1:26:31Speaker 9: It's like a baby turtle.
- 1:26:33Speaker 8: We need to capture this.
- 1:26:34Speaker 12: Like a turtle.
- 1:26:37Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:26:38Speaker 8: So all that fun and more can be had if
- 1:26:41Speaker 8: you go find yourself the Found Footage Festival in your
- 1:26:45Speaker 8: local area. So as we said before, it is foundfootagefest.com.
- 1:26:50Speaker 8: And yeah, go figure out where they're going to be.
- 1:26:53Speaker 8: And it's quite entertaining, not just the videos themselves, but
- 1:26:59Speaker 8: I think the guys have put together sort of a
- 1:27:00Speaker 8: fun show around it. So it's And that's something I noticed, too.
- 1:27:05Speaker 8: I've seen clips of this stuff at home by myself,
- 1:27:07Speaker 8: and it's awkward and weird, but, like, seeing it in
- 1:27:10Speaker 8: a room with a whole bunch of people is an
- 1:27:12Speaker 8: entirely different experience. It really is a lot more fun,
- 1:27:16Speaker 8: I have to say, being awkward in a whole room
- 1:27:17Speaker 8: full of people.
- 1:27:18Speaker 9: And you know what?
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: I just got to thinking. So they did montages of
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: the most awesome parts of, like, videos. We should do
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: that of, like, the most awesome parts of, like, stuff
- 1:27:27Speaker 2: that Fred says and the most awesome stuff that Greg says.
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: The most awesome stuff that I say and you say.
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: Everyone should have their own montage of stuff that's hilarious
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: that they say.
- 1:27:38Speaker 8: I've put minor ones together in the past, but then
- 1:27:41Speaker 8: I don't know that anybody wants to. I don't know
- 1:27:43Speaker 8: how to find a way. Again, we're still trying to
- 1:27:45Speaker 8: find listeners in general. Let me know when that kicks in.
- 1:27:49Speaker 8: I've been waiting for that. If you guys want to
- 1:27:52Speaker 8: hear those, let me know. And if we get hundreds
- 1:27:55Speaker 8: and hundreds of requests, I'll put them together.
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: College kids are really dumb. And they'll, like, do anything. Like,
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: if you call it an internship, they'll do anything for
- 1:28:05Speaker 2: no money.
- 1:28:05Speaker 8: And back to my plan from earlier. Hold on. Tie
- 1:28:08Speaker 8: that in.
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: At least that's my theory.
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:28:10Speaker 2: I've never had an internship yet, although I'm about to
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: have an internship.
- 1:28:14Speaker 8: Would you like to have one? Here at Movie Meltdown,
- 1:28:16Speaker 8: we're looking for interns.
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a good idea.
- 1:28:20Speaker 8: We'll get right on it.
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: Isn't there, like, a place somewhere that has a radio school?
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: I just made myself sound like a mentally handicapped person.
- 1:28:33Speaker 8: Hey, do you know how to take care of business?
- 1:28:37Speaker 8: Because if not, I've got a video for you. All right.
- 1:28:40Speaker 8: I think, yeah, on that note, we should get out
- 1:28:43Speaker 8: of here.
- 1:28:45Speaker 7: That's the sound of us driving off.
- 1:28:46Speaker 8: That was Todd from Wild and Wooly. This was their
- 1:28:49Speaker 8: birthday celebration.
- 1:28:50Speaker 7: Yeah, 16th birthday.
- 1:28:51Speaker 8: It's very fitting that he just pulled away. So I
- 1:28:53Speaker 8: think it's time to head out ourselves. So with that,
- 1:28:55Speaker 8: otherwise that about does it. We will return next week.
- 1:28:57Speaker 8: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
- 1:29:00Speaker 4: If your life was on videotape, wouldn't everything be all right?
- 1:29:09Speaker 8: When your head.
- 1:29:10Speaker 4: Hurts the morning after, then you could roll it back
- 1:29:15Speaker 4: to late last night. You could replay all the good
- 1:29:22Speaker 4: parts and cut out what you don't like. Oh, wouldn't
- 1:29:28Speaker 4: you be in good shape if your life was on videotape?
- 1:29:46Speaker 4: If everybody had ESP Everything I'd be okay We could
- 1:29:57Speaker 4: see trouble coming And we could step out of the
- 1:30:03Speaker 4: way When that grim reaper comes to call, then we
- 1:30:09Speaker 4: could arrange to be out of town. It would be
- 1:30:15Speaker 4: the great escape, and you could put it on videotape.
- 1:30:22Speaker 4: ¶ I don't have a video recorder ¶ ¶ ¶
- 1:30:38Speaker 4: I don't have a crystal.
- 1:30:40Speaker 5: Ball ¶ ¶ ¶.
- 1:30:42Speaker 4: When I'm not with my baby ¶ ¶ ¶ And
- 1:30:47Speaker 4: I don't have very much at.
- 1:30:50Speaker 5: All ¶ ¶ ¶.
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: I can't predict the future ¶ ¶ Baby, I sure
- 1:30:57Speaker 4: can't change the past But I know it will all
- 1:31:02Speaker 4: make sense If you love me in the present tense
- 1:31:08Speaker 4: And if your life was on videotape Wouldn't everything be alright?
- 1:31:19Speaker 4: When your head hurts the morning after You could always
- 1:31:24Speaker 4: roll it back to late last night You could replay
- 1:31:30Speaker 4: all the good parts And cut out what you don't
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: like Oh.
- 1:31:37Speaker 5: Wouldn't you be in.
- 1:31:39Speaker 4: Good shape If your life was on videotape Oh, wouldn't
- 1:31:47Speaker 4: you be in good shape if your life was on videotape?
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: I had a terrible nosebleed for like four days.
- 1:32:08Speaker 8: Issue seven.
- 1:32:09Speaker 9: I think that's awful. Like, why is that so funny?
- 1:32:14Speaker 8: Because it's Merlin. I feel her pain.
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: It's probably from that. It's probably from that.
- 1:32:23Speaker 7: The snoring.
- 1:32:24Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:32:26Speaker 7: That's got to be hard.
- 1:32:27Speaker 6: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
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- 1:32:43Speaker 10: Talk hard!