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There’s No Such Thing As a Transgender Child · UK Column Radio

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  Hello everyone, this is Diane Rasmussen with UK column.
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  I'm really happy to be here today talking with Steve James.
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  He uses social media as Edge of the Matrix and he is available
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  on YouTube X and TikTok under that name and links to his
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  social media channels will be provided in the write up for
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  this interview as it goes out. So Steve, again, thanks for
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  joining me today. It's really great for us to be
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  able to sit down and have a chat.
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  I've been admiring your work for a while.
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  I, I think the first time I became really aware of you was
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  when you attended the UK column live events in Cheltenham.
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  I was, I think that was back in April.
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  And I remember you interviewed, you interviewed me about the,
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  the work that I had been doing and lost my academic and my
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  librarian career over just calling out gender ideology and
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  children's books. And, and I remember we had a, a
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  short but quite enthusiastic conversation.
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  You were like, I'm going to go out and do more about this
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  because this is really shocking. So I know you had a channel
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  before that, but you've really your views and your followers
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  have really exploded in recent months.
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  So I guess I'm interested to hear from you kind of how how
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  you got to this point where you are now from where you were even
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  just a few months ago and how that I'm also curious, I'm
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  hopeful that what you did with us at UK column back in
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  Cheltenham and then New York just last month maybe helped you
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  get yourself going a bit more. So if you maybe want to take us
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  through your journey of where where you are now.
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  Yeah, when when we, when we chatted in Cheltenham, I'd, I
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  spent three months planning, going out and doing a campaign
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  on the streets. So in fact, Sue and I, my wife,
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  have been abroad in, in Panama and, and we landed in not
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  Heathrow airport. What was the other airport in
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  London, the next second, Gatwick Airport.
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  And we literally come from the airport after being away for
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  three months directly to the to the conference in Cheltenham.
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  So we were fresh off our travels.
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  But all the time while I was on my travels, I was planning what
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  I was going to do. And basically I'm, I'm not
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  original in this. I, I took the concept from Chris
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  Elston, who's known as Billboard Chris online and he's from
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  Canada. And he's been doing this
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  campaign now for I think at least five years.
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  So he's the original guy. And I reached out to him.
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  I said, I like what you do. I'm going to do the same in, in
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  the UK. Have you got any advice?
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  And he gave me 4 good pieces of advice.
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  The first one was remain calm, the second one was know your
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  stuff and the third one was film everything.
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  And then the 4th 1 was let them speak.
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  And it's been like operation let them speak.
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  If you let them talk, they're going to literally expose
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  themselves and their ideology as a falsehood or something that
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  anybody of sound mind would stand back and look and think
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  you're talking nonsense. Yeah.
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  So I was quite, I was a little bit, I don't know, wet behind
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  the ears, a little bit green towards it.
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  You know, I didn't know what I would actually come across.
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  And I was kind of taken aback at the amount of people,
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  particularly young people that that have been brainwashed with
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  this ideology and how angry and ferocious that they will get if
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  you challenge that ideology. And that was something that,
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  although I'd seen it a little bit with Chris Alston, Billboard
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  Chris out on the streets of Canada, I didn't think it'd be
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  as bad. Naively, that's why I say I was
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  a little bit taken aback about it, you know, But after being
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  out on the streets for a while, you can spot the types of people
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  that are going to take umbrage with my presence and my message.
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  And the message is pretty clear that this ideology, it's a
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  danger to society, it's a danger to kids, and it's a danger to
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  children. It's a war on the truth.
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  It's a war on reality, and it's a war on freedom of speech.
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  And that gets demonstrated every time I go out because they try
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  and shut me down. So yeah, it's it's been quite a
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  journey Diane. And it's taken me up and down
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  the country as well. I've gone through, in fact, when
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  I say up and down the country, I haven't quite made it to
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  Scotland yet. The furthest N I've made is
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  York, which was I went out on the streets when I was at the
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  conference. And also Newcastle, I've been up
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  to Newcastle and I've been as far down and into the belly of
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  the beast, which is Brighton. And that was quite interesting
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  too. I'm sure that, yeah, I did see
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  some of your, your coverage from Brighton.
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  Yeah. You know, it, it is interesting,
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  You know, although we see it, we see the same thing in cities,
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  you know, across the country. As you've said.
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  It is interesting to also see some of the, the regional
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  differences as well, even though it's obviously it's, it's a
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  international agenda, right? It's not just here in the UK,
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  but it's yeah. Yeah, I mean my wife Sue and I
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  have travelled abroad and we we just come back from the Gen Spec
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  conference. Gen Spec is genspec.org.
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  They're an organisation of psycho psychotherapist academics
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  that are looking for a non medicalised approach to young
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  people with gender identity disorder, which is now being
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  coined as gender dysphoria by the activists.
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  But we saw the same people with the same ideology in in New
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  Mexico, in the United States, and we've seen it in other
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  European countries as well. We've travelled through Europe.
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  It's the same people with the same ideology.
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  They've taken. This is nothing new.
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  They've taken the playbook from like Maus, Red Guards, from the
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  Hitler Youth, from Pol Potts, Khmer Rouge.
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  What you do is you radicalise the young people with an
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  ideology and then set them free to to deconstruct society or
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  construct it in the way that you want it, and that's what they've
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  done. This ideology is based from
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  postmodernism and critical theory and queer theory when
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  it's all about taking everything that we know in society and
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  deconstructed it, turning on its head and use academic word
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  salads to just bring their ideology, you know, into the
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  into the mainstream so that they say things like, you know,
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  trans. This is their mantra.
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  They'll say trans women are women and and the language is,
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  is very confusing as well to the everyday people because somebody
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  from the general public that have not come across this, if
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  you say a trans woman, they'll be thinking, oh, yes, that's a
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  woman, but a trans woman is a biological man.
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  But the ideology says that a trans woman is a woman.
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  OK. And so one of my signs says
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  trans women are men. So I'm directly challenging it
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  because trans women are men. I used to it used to say
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  biological men, but I've taken that away because we're using
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  their language. There's men and women like the
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  differences is rooted in biology, but we don't have to
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  make a distinction because if I'll say biological men, sorry,
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  yeah, what they will do, they'll say, well, there's a difference
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  between biology and then a social construct, which is
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  gender. So sex is rooted in biology and
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  they tell us now gender is not synonymous with sex.
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  It is something different. It's a social construct.
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  So under that ideology, a man can become a woman because being
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  a woman is his gender. And that's constructed socially
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  to get to get where I'm coming from.
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  So what they've done is they've taken, they've taken gender and
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  they've pushed that ahead of biological sex or gender is that
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  person's lived experience and that person's something that's
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  innate within them. They'll tell you.
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  And that trumps the laws of the universe, that Trump's biology,
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  that Trump's objective truth, because that's that person's
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  lived experience. Right.
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  Yeah, it's, it's very difficult to get your head around it at
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  1st. And you know, I've, I've been
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  doing quite a bit of interviewing and reporting about
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  this for if you could call them for a while.
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  One of the interesting conversations I've had about
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  this and I've, I've talked to several people and interviewed
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  several people from different perspectives on this issue.
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  One of them is a lady in Scotland, Doctor Jenny
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  Cunningham, who's a retired consultant paediatrician.
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  And one of the things that made a lot of sense to me when she,
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  when she said this, when I interviewed her, is that this
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  diagnosis of gender dysphoria is the basically the only sort of
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  mental or psychological condition in the NHS that is
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  then said to have necessarily be treated with a physical
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  procedure. So that if, if you're saying in
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  your mind, well, I think I'm a woman, then you therefore
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  proceed to chop off certain bits that only men have to, and then
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  you wake up and then you're a woman.
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  Well, we know in reality it, it doesn't work that way.
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  But that's the story that they're being sold in childhood
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  and, you know, and into adulthood as well as as, you
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  know, I but I think it's, it's an interesting way of, of when I
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  tried to explain it to people and they were like, oh, yeah,
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  that that's actually true. Like you would not nowadays we
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  don't do lobotomies anymore. We don't treat depression or,
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  you know, any other sort of mental illness with that
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  physical. Well, let's go in and change
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  your brain or take out the frontal lobe or something and
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  then and you'll feel better. But it is a very similar thing
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  to me when you compare, you're thinking this and so we'll do
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  this to your body and and then it will be better.
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  And that's not really what it seems to work at all, obviously.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's, it's obviously a
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  bit top down. It's a, it's a top down
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  ideology. It's not grassroots what
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  whatsoever. It's being pushed on us and it's
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  being pushed I, I believe to deconstruct society because so
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  they can bring order out of the chaos.
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  But also it's being pushed by the medical industrial complex.
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  I can't get definitive figures, but I did come across one which
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  seemed fairly reasonable, that each person that identifies as
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  trans is worth $1.5 million to the Pharmaceutical industry over
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  their lifetime. So, so you'll see if you can get
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  them young. You start off, you start off
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  with the puberty blockers for a young child, young child.
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  I'll talk about that a little bit later.
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  I'll just do the medical cost first.
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  But I'll, I'll talk about the gender identity disorder amongst
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  young people and how that's grown.
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  But if we just purely talking financially, so that young
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  child, they'll, they'll go on puberty blockers initially.
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  But what the real name for that is hormone blockers.
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  They stop a child developing into an adult because what they
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  say is that they will develop secondary sexual
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  characteristics, you know, breasts or facial hair or
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  whatever, and that will cause them distress.
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  So there's the initial cost to the, so there's the initial
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  profits to the Pharmaceutical industry for that.
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  And then virtually every single child, apart from a few dropouts
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  for, for, you know, whatever reason goes on to taking
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  opposite sex hormones, right? And they will be on those for
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  life as long as they continue this delusion.
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  So that's testosterone for girls or oestrogen for men.
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  And then so, so that's a massive, massive cost.
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  You've got a, you've got a customer for life all the way
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  through. But there's also complications
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  in what this does to the body as well.
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  So a lot of the, the, the females, they have to have
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  hysterectomies and there's many different, you know, so
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  everything's taken out. If they're going to have the
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  other surgeries, euphemistically they call it top surgery where
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  they remove the, the girl's breasts.
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  So that's a double mastectomy If if they want to go down the next
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  level of for females, which is called bottom surgery, they call
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  that a falloplasty. And what they do is they take a
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  sliver of flesh or not a sliver. It's a big chunk of flesh all
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  the way off the forearm. And they create a fake penis.
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  And then they saw it on down down below.
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  And I've seen these pictures and it looks nothing like a penis
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  and it's full of fat. And if the person gets fat, this
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  fake penis gets fatter with it. They look like they look like a
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  thick kind of coat. Basically, that's that's the
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  physical size of it, but it's just a piece of flesh that's
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  hanging there. If they want to make it erect,
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  what they do is they put a pump in.
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  So they have another surgery and they put a pump and they use
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  they have they have a pump, one of the testicles.
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  So they they're prosthetic testicles and one of the pump
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  pumps it up and then there's a valve to release it.
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  It's absolute. I've seen I've I've seen
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  pictures and I've seen I've seen videos of the surgery and I
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  think if the if the general public saw this, it would, it
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  would end tomorrow it. It's just, it's barbaric to me.
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  And, and, and also, you know, the, and, and, and I'm not sure
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  how much of this is, is real, but some of the social media
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  posts that I've seen about males who want to be female is
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  actually saying, well, I'm now a woman.
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  And so therefore I'm, I'm about to start my, my cycle.
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  I'm going to have a period. I've got cramps.
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  Like, no, that's not what you have.
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  And. It's.
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  So delusional to be able to think that this is what is
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  actually happening to you. Because even if you created
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  something that even looks similar, even slightly similar,
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  even though it doesn't too looking like the other sex with
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  your genitals, that doesn't mean that they're going to operate.
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  Whether it's, you know, ejaculating for a man or having
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  a period for a woman, it's just not going to happen.
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  They're actually never going to happen.
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  They're being sold, right? Yeah.
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  Yeah, well, well, it's a mental illness.
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  They're mentally ill people. So it's called a falloplasty for
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  a female, the bottom surgery for a man.
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  It's called a vaginoplasty. Basically they castrate them,
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  they cut off the penis, they turn it inside out and create a
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  cavity. And it's just an open wound,
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  which has to then be dilated for life.
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  I'll say it will close up the the the the famous cases that
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  have Jazz Jennings and the young boy in America.
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  And they did a whole series on him called I Am Jazz.
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  As as a young teenager, he had a bye bye penis party and all the
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  adults were there celebrating. They had a cake in the shape of
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  a penis and they clapping. So Jazz Jennings, I can't.
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  There was obviously complications to the surgery
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  because there always is, or pretty much always is.
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  And he can't, he can't urinate properly.
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  He urinates horizontally, not not down, you know, So he has
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  and he's had, he's had subsequent surgeries and I don't
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  even think it's corrected now. You know, he's put on a massive
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  amount of weight. You know, you can see it's a
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  completely unhappy young man. And most of this was pushed by
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  his mother, which is, you know, it's the case.
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  I mean, I, I didn't claim this term, but you know, about
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  Munchausen's by proxy about somewhere the carer gets all the
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  attention from looking after somebody.
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  So they've claimed this frame called Transhausen by Proxy.
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  And there's all these mothers that, you know, so if if they
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  wanted a girl, they've got a young boy and they convinced
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  that young boy that they're a girl girl.
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  And you know, that's the phrase trans elves.
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  And by proxy their support groups for all these, all these
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  parents with trans children, one of them is called Mama bears and
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  other ones called Mama Dragons. And they all go on there and
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  their social status is uplifted because they've got this trans
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  child that everyone wants to talk about.
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  You know it's awful. Right.
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  So it's even hard to know what to say.
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  So by the time you were looking into this and by the time you
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  got to Cheltenham in April. And then you interviewed me
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  about the work I've been doing in the libraries and schools and
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  my story of how I sort of lost my academic career and my sort
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  of ability to be a librarian officially any longer.
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  Although I will still remain A librarian as long as I live.
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  And I will always say that they're not taking that away
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  from me. But So what, where were you by
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  the time you got to Chilton in April?
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  And you talked to me and you'd been to this conference just
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  before that with Sue. So what, what had you learned up
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  until that point? And, and what made you decide to
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  ask me about the work that I'd been doing?
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  So this is going back about six or seven months now.
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  Well. What I focused on up till that
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  point really is what really piqued my interest was mediocre
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  males identifying as females and competing in female sports.
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  So I was looking into that because I've always, I've always
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  enjoyed sports. I know how hard it is to train
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  to focus your whole life on something and enter a
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  competition. And you know, I've, I've had
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  victories and I've had losses and you know, the victories are
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  fantastic and the losses really hurt.
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  And I thought you've got the, it's the same for females.
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  You know, they're competing against all the females.
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  They're putting everything into it.
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  And then can you, I thought, can I imagine how they would feel if
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  a man was to just step into that arena?
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  Like the guy that calls himself Will Thomas?
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  And I'm sorry, he was called Will Thomas.
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  He then called himself Leah Thomas.
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  And when it was something like 400 in the United States, you
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  know, on the, I can't remember what organisation it was, it
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  might have been like a collegiate level.
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  He was #400 and then all of a sudden he's number 1.
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  He beat Riley Gaines and he's winning all the medals.
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  So I was quite aware of that being a sport, a sportsman, but
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  also I was working in the fire service and they changed the
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  appearance policy in the fire service.
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  And rather than what it read before was that you had to just
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  turn up. You couldn't have a beard in the
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  fire service because you had to wear breathing apparatus.
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  It used to be look smart, you know, be clean shaven, Polish
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  your boots. I, I know your uniform and look
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  smart. That was the appearance policy.
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  A lot of academics come in and took managerial positions in the
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  human resources department, and they wrote the new appearance.
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  Policy. And it started off saying if you
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  turn, turn up at work, you can identify as whatever sex sex you
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  want and then you'll be able to use the appropriate facilities
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  for that. And I'm like, what this is this
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  is crazy. I don't know if you use the term
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  sex or gender, I can't remember, but it was crazy.
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  It was so crazy, everybody, nobody took any notice of it.
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  But I, I was like, I kind of did.
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  And I thought, this really isn't right.
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  So I had knowledge that there was some kind of institutional
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  push coming from above that was trying to dictate our kind of
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  like social norms and values. You could see that.
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  So to kind of answer your question, I, I knew it was in
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  the institutions and I knew that it was in sports and I did a lot
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  of research on the sports aspect because that's what kind of
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  triggered me more than anything. But it, it was only really
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  since, since after I met you at Cheltenham and I went on the
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  streets and then realised how many radical young people were,
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  were believing that men could be women.
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  They were young in inverted commas, trans people coming up.
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  I, I, one of the signs says there's no such thing as a
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  transgender child. And they were coming up saying
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  I'm a trans child and I'm like, well, you look like a girl to me
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  because you are a girl and you, you look like a bloke to me.
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  The younger ones were the girls. The older ones were, were the,
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  were the males basically. And we can go into why that is
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  coming up, but I didn't, I just didn't really.
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  I was my knowledge base wasn't that good, but I've done a
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  massive amount of research since first going out on the street
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  because I I didn't have the best arguments to be able to counter
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  the points other than basic reality that a man's a man and a
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  woman's a woman. But I've learned so much now
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  about how this ideology has spread between different
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  demographics of people and how it's affected so many people as
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  well. So of I see the the younger
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  people, the younger boys and girls, but predominantly girls
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  as victims of this ideology, these are the one they're
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  identifying as trans because a lot of them have autism.
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  A lot of them have other different traumas in their
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  lives, different traumatic comorbidities.
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  They may have been A lot of these girls have been sexually
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  assaulted and all of a sudden they're going through puberty
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  and they're getting attention off males and they don't want
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  that. The old, the older guys you get,
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  and these are predominantly the problem.
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  These are the middle aged men, but you're getting younger men
• 23:22
  as well in the 20s doing this or identifying as being trans and
• 23:26
  they're purely doing it in. From my perspective, I believe
• 23:30
  that it's purely from a fetishistic sexual arousal point
• 23:35
  of view. There's a condition called
• 23:37
  autogynophilia where men get a sexual kick or sexual arousal by
• 23:44
  imagining themselves becoming a woman.
• 23:48
  So you've got these and these predominantly, you know, driven
• 23:52
  by these type of men. I know it's coming from above.
• 23:55
  You know, they want to change society, but these are
• 23:58
  misogynistic men. So I've now come across a whole
• 24:01
  group of, of women feminists fighting this.
• 24:06
  You know, they call it, they've, they've taken back this word
• 24:09
  turf trans exclusionary radical feminists, right?
• 24:13
  And I've met loads of these women.
• 24:14
  They're fantastic. And they, they've been coming up
• 24:17
  to me on the street saying thank you for doing what you're doing.
• 24:20
  But I didn't realise how much this agenda had impacted them as
• 24:25
  well. So, so you've got, you've got
• 24:27
  women that are these women that are victims of this because
• 24:31
  you've got these predatory males coming into female spaces.
• 24:36
  And it's yeah. So it's a completely
• 24:38
  misogynistic agenda from their level.
• 24:42
  And I've, I've spoken to some of these on the streets.
• 24:45
  They get very angry with me and they shout at me quite a lot.
• 24:49
  I actually spoke to 1 down in London, probably the most
• 24:55
  notorious trans rights activist probably in the UK.
• 25:01
  He used to be called Alan. I think it was Alan Baker.
• 25:06
  He now goes by the name of Sarah Jane Baker.
• 25:09
  He did. He told me all this.
• 25:12
  I knew this anyway, but he he, he'll just spurt it out and told
• 25:15
  me all this. He did 30 years in prison for
• 25:20
  kidnap and torture of a teenage boy because his dad told him to
• 25:25
  do it. Apparently when he was in in
• 25:28
  prison, he identified as a female but they wouldn't allow
• 25:31
  him the surgery. So he managed to come across a
• 25:34
  razor blade and he castrated himself with the razor blade
• 25:39
  whilst he was in prison. And then he ate his own
• 25:42
  testicles so they couldn't, so they wouldn't sew them back on.
• 25:45
  And he told me this. So, so, you know, if, if, if
• 25:54
  Alan Baker, Sarah Jane Baker isn't mentally ill, I don't know
• 25:57
  who is. He also said, he also said to me
• 26:02
  he was actually willing to talk to me without getting angry.
• 26:05
  Actually, I had one of the better chats with him, you know,
• 26:08
  and it was quite a pleasant, you know, exchange from the
• 26:13
  perspective that we weren't shouting each other down.
• 26:16
  I was letting him speak. But he did say, he said now he's
• 26:21
  found Jesus Christ. But he said if he'd have met me
• 26:23
  10 years ago, he'd have buried me in a hole in Scotland.
• 26:28
  He said that was his words. Well.
• 26:31
  I said, I said to do I need to be worried?
• 26:34
  And he said, Oh no, no, like I found Jesus Christ, now you're
• 26:36
  okay. Wow, I hope.
• 26:39
  So, yeah, I hope so. I mean, obviously when you're
• 26:45
  outspoken on this agenda, you're going to be attacked and you're
• 26:50
  and I'm, I'm going to be attacked by the men that
• 26:54
  identify as women, OK? Some of the women shout at me on
• 26:58
  this on the street. Some of these young,
• 27:00
  predominantly middle class university students that have
• 27:05
  been fed up a head full of nonsense by the professors doing
• 27:09
  critical theory, postmodern theory, queer theory in
• 27:12
  university, they might shout at me on the streets, but the ones
• 27:15
  that you know that come after me and come after me online,
• 27:19
  they're predominantly these fetishistic, autogynophilic men
• 27:24
  because I'm a threat to their to their delusion and their
• 27:29
  ideology. Right, right.
• 27:32
  You know, I don't do anything that requires changing rooms
• 27:35
  personally. But there was one time, I
• 27:38
  believe it was last year, I was in a library and I was going in
• 27:42
  to use the, the women's loose and there was a man in a dress
• 27:46
  walking out as I was walking in. And I felt really, really
• 27:53
  uncomfortable for days actually, because he looked at me like I
• 27:56
  was the one with the problem. I didn't even say anything other
• 28:00
  than I might have looked at him in a little bit of shock, like,
• 28:02
  why are you coming out of there? And I didn't speak.
• 28:06
  I didn't. But I just felt this, this
• 28:09
  anger. And I was, I was, I felt
• 28:12
  intimidated for days. Well, after I left the library
• 28:15
  which just, it didn't leave my mind for a while, so.
• 28:19
  Absolutely. And there's a Cape.
• 28:21
  Sorry, no. No, no, go ahead.
• 28:24
  Yeah, there's, there's, there's been an incident in Gold's Gym
• 28:29
  in the United States. I can't remember which actual
• 28:31
  state. I think it was Florida and this
• 28:34
  woman had just had enough. She was, this one was a lesbian,
• 28:37
  this big kind of like muscular black woman that had just had
• 28:42
  enough. And this bloke was wandering in
• 28:46
  into the changing room and she made a big scene screaming and
• 28:51
  shouting about it. She's called Tish somebody and
• 28:55
  she's the one that's been been banned from the gym.
• 29:00
  Not this man. Now, a lot of people have done
• 29:03
  digging on this man. I can't remember his name.
• 29:05
  I posted about it on my ex channel, Edge of the Matrix, so
• 29:07
  people can check it out there. But it turns out like a lot like
• 29:12
  a lot of these cases, this man's got a criminal record, you know,
• 29:19
  and it's normally down to sex offences.
• 29:21
  I think it's a sex offence criminal record.
• 29:24
  A lot of these men that come that, that dress like this, you
• 29:27
  know, there's a massive over representation of trans
• 29:31
  identifying men, what they would call trans women in prison who
• 29:36
  are in for sexual offences. 60% of the men identifying as women,
• 29:41
  60% of the prisoners are in for sexual offences.
• 29:46
  Compare that to the population of normal men with normal men,
• 29:52
  men that don't identify as women and it's 17.9%.
• 29:57
  Women as sex offences. It's it's 3%.
• 30:00
  But I'm sure some of those women are probably men identifying as
• 30:04
  women because you've got male prisoners in in women's prisons
• 30:08
  still. Right.
• 30:09
  And that was one of one of the cases I wanted to mention to
• 30:12
  you. What do you know about, I'm sure
• 30:14
  you know, about the Isla Bryson case in Scotland.
• 30:16
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:18
  So do you want to talk about that just in case viewers have
• 30:21
  not heard about this case? I, I it was, I think, part of
• 30:24
  Nicholas Sturgeon's downfall, but maybe not all of it, but I
• 30:27
  think. Yeah.
• 30:28
  So Isla Bryson was in, was originally put in this.
• 30:32
  His name was Adam Graham and he was in he was, I did look this
• 30:37
  up. I can't remember off the top of
• 30:38
  my head, but he was in for sex offences as well.
• 30:41
  I'm not quite sure if it was rape or sex offences.
• 30:44
  Again, minors, I'm not sure, but it's easy.
• 30:46
  You can easily look up. I've got a head full of so much
• 30:48
  stuff that you you tend to forget.
• 30:50
  But he was Adam Graham and he was initially he, he identified
• 30:55
  this female and soon as he was, you know, knew he was going to
• 30:59
  be convicted and he got put into prison.
• 31:02
  There was a massive public outcry and that he was taken out
• 31:05
  of that. There's another case of someone
• 31:08
  called Karen White. His real name was Stephen Wood.
• 31:14
  OK. He was another sex offender.
• 31:17
  Once he was in prison, he identified as Karen White.
• 31:20
  When he was in prison, he sexually assaulted 2 females,
• 31:25
  two female prisoners and that then went to a court case.
• 31:30
  And because at the time the court, the judges were still
• 31:34
  following the bench guide book which said that you have to
• 31:38
  refer to somebody by their by their the gender which they wish
• 31:44
  to be recognised as the court cons the the court, the
• 31:49
  construct can't get my words out.
• 31:53
  The reading from the courts said that he assaulted her with her
• 31:58
  penis, the conscripts of the school, so he assaulted her with
• 32:03
  her penis. So that was that was that one.
• 32:06
  There's been another case of, do you know in Ireland, a young man
• 32:11
  called who calls himself Barbie Kardashian.
• 32:14
  He just come out of Limerick prison.
• 32:16
  He was in, he was in Limerick's women's prison for a time and
• 32:21
  then eventually got moved into a male prison because he was
• 32:24
  threatening to rape the prisoners and the prison guards
• 32:28
  with a broom hand because he, he, he said I couldn't, I have
• 32:34
  nothing else to because I'm now a woman.
• 32:36
  You know, the only thing I can rape them with is an object.
• 32:39
  Although we still fully intact in the genitalia area.
• 32:43
  So that's another one to check out.
• 32:45
  There are more. I can't remember them off the
• 32:48
  top of my head, but there are many, many more.
• 32:50
  Well, I believe one that, well, one that's going on right now, I
• 32:55
  believe is, is a intact mail. Is that the way to say it is
• 32:58
  the, the Darlington Nurses Tribunal, which is going on
• 33:02
  currently, which I know I'd like to talk a little bit about that
• 33:04
  because I know you and Kelly J Keane were there.
• 33:08
  So if you want to, maybe I, I covered this on UK column News
• 33:11
  earlier this week, actually at the time of recording.
• 33:13
  So this is on the would be the 3rd of November if anyone wants
• 33:16
  to go back and look at my report about the Darlington nurses.
• 33:20
  But maybe if you want to just tell the audience a little bit
• 33:22
  about it and about your experiences when you were there
• 33:25
  at the tribunal. Yeah.
• 33:28
  So I, I travelled up to Newcastle because that, that was
• 33:32
  the, that's where the tribunal court is being heard.
• 33:34
  Although the hospital was in in Darlington and I got there,
• 33:40
  yeah, I got there early on, on the first day and I saw the
• 33:43
  nurses coming in and I think there's the seven or eight of
• 33:47
  them. I think 7 it's. 8 actually.
• 33:51
  Is it 8? Yeah, I can say yeah.
• 33:55
  And they were, they, they were, they were giving evidence.
• 33:58
  So. So they all turned up.
• 34:00
  There's a bit of a media fanfare and I got to speak.
• 34:04
  I got to speak to them really great nurses.
• 34:08
  And the case was with another nurse who calls himself Rose
• 34:14
  Henderson. And he, he used to, he he used
• 34:20
  to go into the women he identified as a female, go into
• 34:23
  the female changing rooms. And it went on for quite a long
• 34:27
  time until the women had had enough.
• 34:29
  But all of a sudden on the female locker room or changing
• 34:33
  room, there was a sign which said this is now an inclusive
• 34:37
  space for everybody. Now, that only appeared on the
• 34:42
  female changing room door. It didn't appear on the male
• 34:46
  changing room door. So this guy who calls himself
• 34:49
  Rose Henderson, who quite frankly looks like Buffalo Bill
• 34:53
  out of Silence of the Lambs, you know, with that long hair, and
• 34:56
  he's got this receipt. He just does not look like a
• 34:58
  woman other than the fact that he's got long hair, but he just
• 35:03
  looks like a fat man with long hair, basically.
• 35:08
  And so, yeah, the, the nurses have had enough and the nurses
• 35:14
  are actually taking the the Darlington Hospital Trust NHS
• 35:20
  Trust to, to Corp for dereliction of duty basically.
• 35:25
  Now, I was there when one of the nurses was giving evidence and I
• 35:31
  do know that yesterday the man that calls himself Rose
• 35:35
  Henderson gave evidence. And as part of that evidence, it
• 35:38
  says it never occurred to me that it would cause, I think the
• 35:43
  wording was distress and unease to the other nurses in there.
• 35:49
  So he's completely he knew exactly what he was doing.
• 35:52
  And the nurses said he used to hang around for a prolonged
• 35:56
  period of time looking and living at them and saying, now
• 36:00
  you're not going to get on. Are you not getting changed?
• 36:02
  Are you not getting changed? And he used to wear boxer shorts
• 36:05
  and he was questioned with holes in them so that they could see
• 36:08
  genitalia. And he was questioned about, you
• 36:11
  know, if you're a female, why are you wearing boxer shorts?
• 36:14
  And he says, well, because I've got the the genitalia, genitalia
• 36:18
  that requires it. But the problem is with, yeah,
• 36:23
  the problem is with this it the policies come top down and then
• 36:28
  you get the managers that will just blindly follow policy and
• 36:34
  it doesn't affect them. They're sat in, you know, they
• 36:37
  don't have to get changed at work.
• 36:38
  They're just sat tapping on the keyboard and writing these
• 36:41
  policies. And a lot of these are the
• 36:43
  students, just like in the fire service that wrote the
• 36:46
  appearance policy, they've been students who've gone through
• 36:49
  this critical theory and queer theory, and then they're writing
• 36:53
  policies for institutions and they're also implementing those
• 36:57
  policies. So these middle managers, it
• 36:59
  doesn't matter to them. So This is why I call it the
• 37:05
  the, I call it the long March through the institutions.
• 37:08
  What's happening? I didn't come up with that term.
• 37:11
  It's it's a it's a well known phrase.
• 37:13
  I think it's Antonio Gramsci or one of his students that came up
• 37:17
  with it. Yeah.
• 37:19
  And, and he said, how do you fundamentally change a society
• 37:24
  without a revolution, you know, and spilling blood?
• 37:27
  Well, what you have to do is get into the institutions.
• 37:30
  And it's going to be a long March of institutions.
• 37:32
  It's going to take a long time. So basically, how do they do it?
• 37:37
  You get all this ideology through critical theory and
• 37:41
  queer theory into the universities.
• 37:44
  The academics will talk all about it.
• 37:46
  You know, they will poison the minds of the students.
• 37:50
  And if the students are looking up and they look up to
• 37:53
  professors and, and they're telling them these theories
• 37:57
  about life and you've got these young people that haven't much
• 38:00
  life experience, they're going to believe what the what the
• 38:03
  professors are saying. And then they, you know, they
• 38:06
  write up about that. They go out and you know, then
• 38:09
  into the workplace and then they implement all these policies.
• 38:12
  And that's what happened in the fire service and it's obviously
• 38:15
  what's happening in the universities now.
• 38:17
  And you can see that they get, you know, in the universities,
• 38:20
  they get tenure for life if they, you know, if they push
• 38:24
  these theories and none of the management would go, go again.
• 38:29
  COVID was the great experiment, wasn't it?
• 38:31
  COVID was the, what do they call it?
• 38:34
  Do they call it the beta test? So it showed that, you know,
• 38:40
  people will follow orders through through the chain of
• 38:44
  command in their employment. You know, it was coming down
• 38:48
  through the chain of of command and they realised that if
• 38:51
  somebody stepped out of line on what was coming down, then
• 38:55
  you're going to lose your job. You know, it happened with me in
• 38:58
  the fire service, you know, so they, they, they realise that
• 39:02
  this power structure runs all the way through the workforce
• 39:06
  and all these, all these institutions and it silences
• 39:11
  people. This is why I say it's a war on
• 39:14
  freedom of speech because people can't speak out about it.
• 39:18
  You know, those, those Darlington nurses chose to speak
• 39:21
  out about it, you know, and now they're going through a court.
• 39:25
  Well, they went through a lot of trouble.
• 39:27
  They, they've actually taken this court case against their
• 39:31
  employer, but they were under the cosh from the, from the
• 39:36
  Darlington NHS Trust. The union wouldn't represent
• 39:41
  them because the unions have been captured.
• 39:43
  They had to start up their own union called the Darlington
• 39:46
  Nurses Union. They've got, they've got an
• 39:48
  account on X as well. So people can follow that as
• 39:51
  well to see what's happening in the trial.
• 39:54
  But it it, it just showed you that this orthodoxy coming down,
• 39:58
  if your livelihood is dependent on you, you know, you putting
• 40:04
  food on the table and a roof over your head is dependent on
• 40:07
  you continuing to work for whatever employee you have or
• 40:12
  whatever. Institution you're working for,
• 40:15
  you have to, you have to toe the line.
• 40:18
  You have, you know, even if you don't believe it, you have to
• 40:21
  just shut up and do as you're told or you know, you're going
• 40:26
  to face problems. I faced it in the fire service.
• 40:28
  The Darlington nurses faced it. Other people have faced it.
• 40:31
  You know, you did as well, didn't you, Diane?
• 40:33
  In the libraries. Yeah.
• 40:37
  So a lot of people just just shut up.
• 40:40
  Yeah. And, and you know, unfortunately
• 40:42
  for me, I just, you know, this is, I want to hear from you
• 40:45
  today, but just to say shortly that I, it was such an intense
• 40:49
  experience for me and it all happened so quickly before I
• 40:52
  even realised it, that I in the beginning didn't even know that
• 40:54
  I was saying anything wrong. And you know what, the actually,
• 40:59
  the first thing you know, we're talking about critical theory.
• 41:01
  So, you know, we're talking largely about gender and the
• 41:04
  trans issues today. But one of the first things that
• 41:06
  happened to me was when I was at a librarian conference and I was
• 41:11
  placed on a panel at Cambridge. The conference took place at
• 41:15
  Cambridge. And the panel was about, you
• 41:17
  know, the act of referencing and citing your sources when you're
• 41:21
  at university and you write a paper and you have to cite your
• 41:23
  sources. And the panel discussion was was
• 41:27
  about whether or not that was a racist, oppressive practise.
• 41:31
  Because if you bring, yeah, if you bring in students from, you
• 41:35
  know, other, other backgrounds to a British university and
• 41:39
  we're applying, you know, our standards that we have in these
• 41:44
  universities here in the UK and they're expected to follow the
• 41:46
  standards to write their paper that that might be oppressive to
• 41:51
  international students from different backgrounds.
• 41:54
  And I was just there saying there's nothing racist or
• 41:58
  oppressive about it. You're, you're being respectful
• 42:00
  to people that wrote things that have already been written.
• 42:03
  You want to give them credit and you want to help future people
• 42:08
  who might be reading that work find the previous sources.
• 42:12
  And so you're helping people in the future.
• 42:14
  You're being respectful of the people that wrote things before
• 42:17
  you, and there's nothing racist about it.
• 42:20
  But that, along with some issues around identity politics,
• 42:23
  language, which I won't get into, led me to get a letter
• 42:28
  from the conference chair the following week saying I had
• 42:32
  broken the conference code of conduct.
• 42:35
  And it started from there. And I, I, I'm so I've always
• 42:38
  been, so I guess practical because librarianship is a, to
• 42:43
  me, a very practical hands on profession.
• 42:45
  We don't need theory. We don't need ideology
• 42:48
  necessarily to help people find what they need.
• 42:51
  And I didn't I I didn't even know the stuff even existed
• 42:55
  until I started to get into trouble for it.
• 42:59
  So. You know, I, I didn't know that
• 43:00
  there was a line I was supposed to tow.
• 43:02
  I was just using my my head and just common sense like, no, we
• 43:06
  just part of what we do when in academic work is we cite our
• 43:10
  sources and we teach students how to do that.
• 43:12
  And I had no idea I was being racist.
• 43:16
  So, yeah, it's, it's just amazing how this, this stuff for
• 43:21
  me came out of nowhere. And as well, I guess with COVID
• 43:24
  was as you said, and I've been thinking that more and more that
• 43:27
  that was a test case now for, for all the stuff and for the
• 43:30
  digital ID and everything else that we're now fighting.
• 43:35
  Because again, I, I didn't, I didn't think that there was, I
• 43:39
  didn't realise the time that we were supposed to be so serious
• 43:43
  about it, that nobody in, in the university system where I was
• 43:47
  working. And I'm sure it's true of any
• 43:49
  university. I was the only one that I knew
• 43:52
  at the time. And I, I actually didn't say
• 43:54
  anything because that was so big.
• 43:56
  I was afraid to say anything. But I, in the back of my mind, I
• 43:58
  was going, this doesn't even make any sense that we're just
• 44:02
  being told to shut everything down.
• 44:05
  You know, at the time, in March 2020, it was 2 weeks, 3 weeks,
• 44:08
  whatever they said to flatten the curve, so to speak.
• 44:11
  But I remember crying because I was so used to being on campus
• 44:14
  and being with students and going in and, and, and trying to
• 44:19
  figure out how I was going to do my job from home, which sounded
• 44:22
  at the time ridiculous and, but nobody seemed bothered.
• 44:26
  They just did it. I, I, the first interview I ever
• 44:28
  did with Brian Garish, my gutsy women interview from, you know,
• 44:32
  when I first started working with column, I talked about that
• 44:36
  and he asked me, did nobody else question it?
• 44:38
  I said, no, people just did what they were told.
• 44:41
  And then by the time we were on zoom calls and they were wearing
• 44:44
  masks at home because they were their husband had a sore throat
• 44:47
  and they were afraid they would spread COVID around the house.
• 44:50
  And then it morphed into, well, I'm, I got 1 Pfizer and one
• 44:53
  Moderno or I got 2A's Astrazenecas or whatever.
• 44:56
  And I just stayed quiet just thinking, nothing to say here.
• 45:01
  So I, I think you're right that this has led to where we are now
• 45:05
  at least. And that's just me talking from
• 45:07
  a university perspective as I was a full professor when I was
• 45:13
  kicked out of the system and the union wouldn't help me because
• 45:16
  they told me that they did not support transphobia.
• 45:20
  And I said I'm not afraid of anyone, I just don't think that
• 45:23
  this is a good thing to be doing to people and putting it in
• 45:25
  front of children. But that was so I couldn't get
• 45:29
  proper support from a union reps either by the time I left the
• 45:33
  system. So just as just to add to your
• 45:35
  examples, I've seen this. Yeah, absolutely.
• 45:40
  Absolutely and. That's what I've seen here when
• 45:44
  I've gone to some of these local events and sort of protests in
• 45:49
  new castles and things that I've covered for the column is that a
• 45:54
  lot of the people on that side of things tend to be the
• 45:58
  university students. You know, the ones with the the
• 46:01
  septum piercing and the blue hair and the massive glasses and
• 46:04
  the beds. Like they have a look I
• 46:06
  shouldn't. Say that they.
• 46:08
  Do they have a look and you can? I spot them a mile off.
• 46:11
  I spot them a mile off when I'm out on the streets.
• 46:13
  They do. Do you know what as well?
• 46:15
  What It took me a while to figure this out, but I was
• 46:19
  getting a lot of grief off older people.
• 46:21
  Not a lot of grief. I was getting some grief, quite
• 46:24
  ferocious grief off older people.
• 46:27
  So I'm talking about people old enough to be grandparents.
• 46:31
  And they, they would come and, you know, shout at me, you know,
• 46:36
  sometimes in hysterics, but they wouldn't stay around that long.
• 46:41
  They would shout at me, you know, give me some abuse and
• 46:44
  then go, you know, and these are kind of like I'm talking about,
• 46:48
  you know, 60 year old women. And I'm thinking what is going
• 46:53
  on there? But it struck me after a while.
• 46:56
  These are the grandparents of young children that are
• 47:01
  identifying as trans. And what's happened is the, the
• 47:06
  parents have affirmed the child's delusion.
• 47:10
  And then they've said to the grandparents, little Johnny is
• 47:15
  now little Julie or little Julie is now little Johnny.
• 47:19
  And you have to confirm you, you cannot, you know, you cannot say
• 47:25
  their, their, their old name. You cannot say that they're a
• 47:28
  boy. They're now a girl, OK.
• 47:31
  And if, if you don't, you will not have a relationship with
• 47:34
  them. So they know that it's not true,
• 47:39
  but they have to go along with it.
• 47:42
  And they've been, you know, they've been conditioned to go
• 47:45
  along with it for a period of time.
• 47:47
  And then, of course, when they see me with a sign which says
• 47:51
  there's no such thing as a transgender child, they get,
• 47:55
  they know that it's true, but they can't believe that they're
• 47:59
  not allowing themselves to believe that.
• 48:01
  So they turn all their anger on me.
• 48:04
  Many, many times that happens. I, I think that's a good thing
• 48:07
  for us to talk about here is your experiences being on the
• 48:11
  streets. Because I think if if I'm not
• 48:13
  mistaken, it was, it was shortly after Cheltenham when you
• 48:16
  started to go out with these sandwich boards and I started
• 48:19
  seeing you in your new Manchester.
• 48:21
  So I started following all of these things.
• 48:23
  So I mean, you've got so many stories because I've watched so
• 48:26
  many of them and you just watch in in disbelief.
• 48:29
  For me, it doesn't seem to ever get to where it, it just kind of
• 48:34
  seems normal because I can't just the, the, the, the
• 48:38
  behaviours that you get from just going out and standing on
• 48:41
  the street. So I'm not sure where you would
• 48:43
  like to start with that. I know you have a lot of
• 48:45
  experiences and not. Yeah, so I started, I started to
• 48:50
  get nasty verbal abuse from the very first time I went out,
• 48:55
  which was in Manchester, and you get people trying to grab your
• 49:00
  camera and throw it on the floor or they knock my hat off.
• 49:04
  The first time I was, I had people punch, punch me in the
• 49:08
  chest. But I've got the board there
• 49:10
  that, you know, people that walk past me and, you know, shoulder
• 49:14
  bards me and then run off like a coward or walk off as if
• 49:18
  nothing's happened or it was an accident.
• 49:21
  But it wasn't until I went to Liverpool, Bold Street,
• 49:24
  Liverpool, I won't swear, but this who I would refer to as a
• 49:31
  trans rights activist young woman, although because you said
• 49:35
  they have a kind of look, I couldn't tell whether it was a
• 49:37
  woman or or a man, but she actually identified as a lesbian
• 49:42
  I think. But she came up and she said,
• 49:44
  excuse me, go F yourself, and then disappeared.
• 49:48
  And I went and looked at the camera and they always get so
• 49:51
  angry. And she went off 10 minutes
• 49:54
  later she came back and she'd gone and bought a bottle of hot
• 49:58
  chilli sauce, a big one like you get in the in the restaurants.
• 50:03
  And she'd taken the top off and she come running at me,
• 50:06
  squirting it, you know, all over me.
• 50:08
  I was using my boards to deflect it.
• 50:10
  She lifted the bottom of the board up.
• 50:12
  Try to get me in the face with it and then she come running,
• 50:16
  swinging for me. I'm kind of like circling around
• 50:20
  and backing off. So I was covered in this hot
• 50:23
  chilli sauce. So it's the first time it
• 50:26
  happened. It was kind of like I was like,
• 50:28
  shit, what do I do now? But I grabbed hold.
• 50:32
  She had a backpack on. So I grabbed hold of it and I
• 50:34
  said, I'm making a citizen's arrest of you.
• 50:39
  There was some guy who I was speaking with at the time tried
• 50:43
  to allow her to make an escape because we disagreed.
• 50:47
  We're having a respectful conversation.
• 50:49
  But this is what I've realised. If if I get attacked, people
• 50:54
  will side with my attacker. If they disagree with me, That's
• 50:58
  happened time and time again and they'll laugh.
• 51:01
  You know, we can be having a respectful conversation, but
• 51:03
  they always side with the attacker.
• 51:06
  He tried to get her to go away. I said, you're not going away.
• 51:09
  I'm making a citizen's arrest. And I knew I was compromised
• 51:14
  because I was holding a backpack like this.
• 51:16
  So and she had her hands free and then she just got and just
• 51:19
  smapped me in the face. So I got hit here and here.
• 51:24
  The police have seen all that footage, OK, of me getting
• 51:28
  covered in this, getting hit in the face.
• 51:30
  I got an email off them just a few weeks back saying the police
• 51:35
  decision maker has issued A conditional caution and the
• 51:40
  condition is that she pays my dry cleaning bill and goes on, I
• 51:44
  think, an anger management course.
• 51:46
  So you do get what's called a victim's right to review.
• 51:50
  So it's not even gone to the Crown Prosecution Service.
• 51:54
  This is how captured the police are now and how they they're
• 51:59
  able to keep their crime figures down.
• 52:02
  Rather than put it to the police decision maker, they've just
• 52:05
  said, all right, nothing to see here, we'll give them a caution.
• 52:07
  All right, there's, there's and that's all been dealt with.
• 52:11
  Same with it happened. I got covered in, in syrup in
• 52:16
  Chester. That person only got what was
• 52:19
  called a community resolution, not even a caution.
• 52:25
  So not even a police record or anything.
• 52:28
  So that that was there. Let me go to Brighton.
• 52:32
  I've got a court case coming up on the 26th of January next year
• 52:39
  for Brighton. So Brighton was quite an event.
• 52:42
  It's a good video which you can see on the YouTube channel
• 52:44
  still. So the trans rights activist and
• 52:48
  Antifa came for me. So I was there on my own in
• 52:51
  Brighton, outside Brighton pair, initially 2P2, you know,
• 52:58
  youngsters, I'd call them in balaclavas.
• 53:01
  I don't know what age they were, late teens, early 20s in
• 53:03
  balaclavas. I wouldn't say trying to
• 53:07
  intimidate. Well they were trying to
• 53:09
  intimidate me because they were getting in front of me, pushing
• 53:11
  me out of the way. They'd made their own signs up,
• 53:14
  but that was just the start. They were eventually the cavalry
• 53:18
  turned up as well to, to join them.
• 53:23
  And there's probably about six or seven of them surrounding me,
• 53:27
  all covered up, all the faces covered up.
• 53:29
  They were jostling me, pushing me around, you know, covering my
• 53:32
  face with the flags wouldn't let me go.
• 53:36
  And then they come and covered me in soup.
• 53:39
  This lasted all this intimidation lasted for about 20
• 53:43
  minutes, at least 20 minutes non stop.
• 53:46
  And I was saying to the to the members of the public, can you
• 53:48
  call the police? Which they did, but the police
• 53:51
  just wouldn't turn up. They just didn't turn up and
• 53:55
  they caught a must. I don't know how many calls, but
• 53:58
  a significant number of people called the police until they
• 54:01
  eventually turned up and they almost let them get away.
• 54:06
  So, and I was saying it's that one there, it's that one there.
• 54:09
  And eventually they did arrest two of the people.
• 54:12
  One of them has been charged. Again, I've got to give evidence
• 54:17
  via a video link. I don't have to go down to
• 54:19
  Brighton. That is on the 26th of, did I
• 54:24
  say January 26th of January next year.
• 54:27
  But after that, once those two people had got arrested, all,
• 54:32
  you know, the others had disappeared.
• 54:34
  I at least I thought the police said to me, we can't leave
• 54:41
  because we've got a duty of care for you until you're safely away
• 54:45
  from from this area. I said, But even if I walk away
• 54:49
  people could follow me. But anyway, they didn't even
• 54:52
  hang around. The police just drove off.
• 54:55
  So I was there. This with a large crowd had
• 54:58
  gathered outside Brighton Pier and a lot of people were
• 55:03
  supporting me because they saw how they treat how how I'd been
• 55:06
  treated. And I needed to walk down
• 55:10
  towards my vehicle which was half a mile down Brighton Sea
• 55:14
  front. And this fantastic lady
• 55:19
  followed, came with me. She was like, you know,
• 55:21
  supporting me and we're having a chat all the way down there.
• 55:25
  But what I always do is I leave my cameras running.
• 55:27
  I have a camera on my chest and I have a camera on a selfie
• 55:30
  stick which which points behind me and I walk down Brighton Sea
• 55:36
  front for half a mile. I'm, I'm all, I'm quite
• 55:40
  cautious. So I, because I, I realised
• 55:44
  people are out to get me and they're going to follow me.
• 55:46
  So I, I stopped some distance before my vehicle and, and I
• 55:52
  said to this lady, I said, right, let's just hang around
• 55:54
  here and see if, see if we're being followed.
• 55:57
  And we turned around and we saw this guy and she went in there
• 56:01
  and I'd recognised him from before and I'd look back for all
• 56:04
  the videos after this and seen him hanging around while I was
• 56:07
  at the pier and he followed us for half a mile down Brighton
• 56:10
  sea front. So I just, you know, I'm not
• 56:14
  going to shy away. I just walked straight over to
• 56:16
  him. He's a big, he's like about 6
• 56:19
  foot 26 foot three. I'm like 5 foot 5.
• 56:22
  And this big guy and I said are you following us?
• 56:25
  And he went, yes, he said, I'm making sure you leave Brighton.
• 56:29
  The police told, you know, the police told you to leave and I'm
• 56:32
  making sure you got, you're going to leave.
• 56:35
  And then he starts to complain that I'm filming and he goes,
• 56:37
  don't you dare film me. He said, I'm here to make sure
• 56:41
  you leave Brighton. And then he, I'd, I'd left my
• 56:45
  sandwich boards propped up against the lamppost and he
• 56:49
  went, walked over to them, picked him up and, and started
• 56:52
  walking off. And I'm, so I'm calling the
• 56:56
  police again at this time saying I've been robbed and this guy
• 56:59
  and I'm following him. And then he starts running.
• 57:01
  He starts, it's so funny. He's running down Brighton sea
• 57:04
  front. And I'm saying to him, I said,
• 57:08
  you know, don't you know, I said it's not a good idea, don't take
• 57:12
  my property. He goes up the steps because I
• 57:14
  don't know if you know Brighton, the sea front's down here.
• 57:17
  And then there's a promenade higher up.
• 57:18
  He's about 30 metre steps going up, I'm chasing him up the
• 57:23
  steps. I've got a phone in one hand
• 57:24
  trying to call the police, my camera in the other.
• 57:26
  I'm trying to pull my birds off him, couldn't get him off him.
• 57:29
  And we get to the top and I said to him mate, this isn't a good
• 57:34
  idea. And he said why not as he's
• 57:36
  running away. And I already decided by this
• 57:39
  point what I'm going to do. So he's, you know, you know,
• 57:43
  making a quick getaway. I've got my camera on a tripod.
• 57:46
  I put my camera down, put my phone in a pocket.
• 57:49
  I run to him and I literally rugby tackle into the floor.
• 57:53
  And I have to hold him on the floor, you know, until he kind
• 57:57
  of like learned his lesson. And I got my, you know, members
• 57:59
  of the public turned up who then started siding with this guy
• 58:04
  because he's shouting. He's a he's a transphobe.
• 58:07
  He's got anti trans signs, you know, he said and some kids have
• 58:11
  covered him in soup. You know, he's come over.
• 58:13
  He thought I was from Crawley because this lady was from
• 58:15
  Crawley. He's come all the way down from
• 58:17
  Crawley to, you know, to spread hate in Brighton.
• 58:21
  So these are these are members of the public walking past start
• 58:26
  siding with this guy. And I've got him on the floor
• 58:30
  and I said, I'm not going to let him up because he's like 6 foot
• 58:33
  46 foot 26 foot 3. And if, if he, if he gets up,
• 58:38
  you know, he's probably going to start swinging for me.
• 58:40
  But so I'm holding him down on the floor.
• 58:42
  And, and then he says, he says the member of the public says,
• 58:47
  well, if you get your signs, walk away, you know, we'll leave
• 58:51
  it at that. And this guy on the floor who's
• 58:53
  screaming because I've got him in a tight hold, he says, OK,
• 58:56
  that's a good deal. That's a good deal.
• 58:58
  Take your signs and go. So I just pick my signs up and
• 59:01
  walks off. Wow, so that's the.
• 59:05
  Kind of scrapes that I get into. Yeah.
• 59:09
  And and you know, the the hypocrisy of it all to me is
• 59:12
  that these are the people telling us to be kind and
• 59:14
  inclusive. And and then they're the ones
• 59:17
  that are ending careers and, you know, reporting people for hate
• 59:22
  crime or hate speech, whatever they want.
• 59:23
  Yeah. And these are the people that
• 59:25
  are coming after us when really we're just all trying to mind
• 59:29
  our own business. I mean, and then and then
• 59:31
  they're coming after us. Yes, and all and all of a sudden
• 59:35
  this guy that stole my property and I tackle into the floor
• 59:41
  because he he didn't just take him, He said these are mine now
• 59:45
  you know, so that's you know, that's the intent to to you
• 59:49
  know, to to keep them. So as soon as I took him to the
• 59:53
  floor, he, he, he was, he immediately became the victim.
• 59:58
  Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this to me?
• 1:00:01
  You know, it's not right. It's, you know, the mind
• 1:00:05
  boggles. So he was the aggressor.
• 1:00:07
  He'd stalk me for for half a mile with the intent to, I don't
• 1:00:12
  know, to deprive me of my property or whatever, you know,
• 1:00:16
  And I, when the tables are turned, he immediately became
• 1:00:19
  the victim of. Course that that seems to be a a
• 1:00:23
  pattern. Unfortunately, we only have a
• 1:00:26
  few minutes left and I do have a couple of things that I I wanted
• 1:00:29
  to end up with. So take your time and, and talk
• 1:00:31
  you talk you about these things because they think, you know,
• 1:00:34
  we've seen these on the ground examples.
• 1:00:36
  We've talked about a a variety of things how you got into this.
• 1:00:40
  But, you know, this is something that we cover frequently on UK
• 1:00:44
  column because there is this bigger agenda at play.
• 1:00:48
  And I would just like to hear from you what you know about it
• 1:00:50
  because you, you've become such a, you know, have a lot of,
• 1:00:55
  unfortunately for you, I guess, a lot of specialist knowledge on
• 1:00:58
  this topic. So who, who's pushing this and
• 1:01:01
  why are they pushing it? I think this is really important
• 1:01:03
  for for for parents and grandparents to understand.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah. I mean, you know, there's
• 1:01:09
  different, just the same with COVID.
• 1:01:13
  You've got different levels, I think of power and competing
• 1:01:18
  interests. It is being pushed by the
• 1:01:19
  Pharmaceutical industry. You know, definitely that there
• 1:01:23
  are there are certain billionaires that are pushing
• 1:01:28
  this agenda. One of them is called Martine
• 1:01:34
  Rothblatt. OK, that used to be used to be
• 1:01:38
  Martin Rothblatt. Now Martine Rothblatt, who is
• 1:01:42
  heavily invested in technology. He also runs the biggest, he
• 1:01:51
  calls it pig farm with AP OK, he's got the biggest pig
• 1:01:57
  breeding business or facility in the world where he's looking at
• 1:02:03
  implanting pig organs into into people.
• 1:02:07
  But he's, he wrote this book called From Transhumanism to
• 1:02:12
  From Transgender to Transhumanism.
• 1:02:16
  And he talks about, and you can see his videos on YouTube.
• 1:02:20
  He talks about one day you can live your life as an avatar on a
• 1:02:25
  server. We'll be able to download your
• 1:02:27
  consciousness and you can live as whatever avatar you want
• 1:02:33
  forever. OK, so you'll have no need for
• 1:02:36
  your body. So that's got to be directly
• 1:02:40
  linked to a depopulation agenda. For me, that couldn't be quite
• 1:02:45
  any clearer. So he's one of these
• 1:02:47
  billionaires. You've got another one called
• 1:02:50
  Jennifer Pritzker. And so his family run the the
• 1:02:57
  Hyatt hotel chain and predominantly in America, but I
• 1:03:02
  think the worldwide. And so he used to be called
• 1:03:06
  Jonathan Pritzker. And so he, he for me again,
• 1:03:13
  these two men are autogynophiles that they've got, they get a
• 1:03:18
  sexual fetish of imagining themselves as a woman.
• 1:03:21
  So Jennifer Pritzker is funding a lot of the universities.
• 1:03:25
  So when we talked about critical theory, queer theory, this kind
• 1:03:29
  of thing, he and LGBT, he's funding a lot of these
• 1:03:34
  university courses. So that's just two billionaires
• 1:03:38
  I know of and they're heavily invested as well in the
• 1:03:42
  Pharmaceutical industry as well as there's an insurance company
• 1:03:47
  called Kaiser Permanente. OK, now we talked a little bit
• 1:03:51
  about medical. You know, it's a psychological
• 1:03:56
  diagnosis which requires, you know, kind of like physical
• 1:04:01
  treatment. You know, so it goes, you go
• 1:04:03
  from your puberty blockers, you go to your cross X hormones and
• 1:04:06
  then the scalpel you need, what you need is a code to pay for,
• 1:04:13
  for this surgery or to be given this medication.
• 1:04:17
  And it's in the DSM 5, the Diagnostic and Statistical
• 1:04:21
  Manual, which is it's like the Bible for the American
• 1:04:25
  Psychiatric Association. And what you do, you've got
• 1:04:28
  gender dysphoria, used to be gender identity disorder, you've
• 1:04:31
  got gender dysphoria. And if you can diagnose that
• 1:04:34
  you've got a code and you can then give that code to the
• 1:04:39
  Kaiser Permanente, which is the biggest insurance company doing
• 1:04:43
  this. Okay.
• 1:04:44
  And they're invested in the medical industry too.
• 1:04:46
  So it's like a circular thing. So the money comes in from from
• 1:04:50
  the people that are paying your policies.
• 1:04:52
  It goes to Kaiser Permanente. They, they, then they're pushing
• 1:04:59
  all this in in the schools and the colleges too, but then they
• 1:05:02
  get that diagnosis, they get a cold and then they can pay for
• 1:05:06
  the drugs and the surgery which Kaiser Permanente are invested
• 1:05:09
  in. So it's a whole money making
• 1:05:11
  racket. Did that make sense?
• 1:05:12
  Did they make that clear enough? Absolutely, yeah.
• 1:05:16
  You know, I've, I've looked at other aspects of this as well
• 1:05:19
  with Professor Gloria Moss, for example, who's, you know, we've
• 1:05:23
  looked into the transhumanism agenda, which is also tied into
• 1:05:27
  globalist organisations, World Economic Forum, United Nations
• 1:05:32
  Health Organisation, that has said, you know, these are things
• 1:05:36
  I'm interested in this how, how is this getting into education
• 1:05:39
  right in my background as an educator, which is, well,
• 1:05:43
  they're now saying globalist policy dictates that children
• 1:05:46
  are sexual beings from birth. And that you and commissioner of
• 1:05:50
  the rights of the child says, well, children can make their
• 1:05:53
  own choices about what they do. So that means if they want to
• 1:05:57
  decide to change their, change their gender, if they decide
• 1:06:00
  that they want to sleep with an adult, they can.
• 1:06:04
  Those are rights that they have, which to me opens its way into
• 1:06:08
  paedophilia and other really dangerous things as well.
• 1:06:12
  So I think there's so. Many things.
• 1:06:16
  Yeah, no, you're absolutely right about the Pharmaceutical
• 1:06:18
  industry. I get so angry about the other
• 1:06:20
  ones that I forget about the money making scheme, which is
• 1:06:23
  obviously you're right, customers for life.
• 1:06:25
  Yes, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:28
  So, so you've got the big, you've got the big bounce.
• 1:06:31
  Let me just put in there one second.
• 1:06:32
  You've got the big foundations like the Open Society Foundation
• 1:06:36
  from George Soros, and he frames the NGOs and the NGOs write in
• 1:06:40
  the papers and then they push this through the World Health
• 1:06:43
  Organisation. Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  And then then that goes into the education system.
• 1:06:49
  And then you've got through the World Economic Forum, which
• 1:06:52
  you've got all all the partners, the strategic partners and the
• 1:06:55
  partners are all the big corporations.
• 1:06:58
  And that's how it's from it's pushed into the policies of the
• 1:07:03
  private workplace. Absolutely right.
• 1:07:06
  And so we can see how it, it comes down and it's, I think,
• 1:07:10
  you know, it's sometimes it's easy to want to blame individual
• 1:07:13
  educators or librarians or, you know, but I ultimately they're
• 1:07:20
  mostly interested in, you know, can I pay my mortgage?
• 1:07:23
  Like, can I feed myself? Can I keep my job?
• 1:07:26
  And so they, they lose track of what we really should be
• 1:07:31
  worrying about and, and sort of watching for their own needs,
• 1:07:34
  which I completely understand having lost my income before I
• 1:07:38
  landed with. You can call them, I completely
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  understand that. But yeah, it is something that
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  we need to be aware of. And, and I guess you know what,
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  you know, there's, there's a couple of things that I want to
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  ask you about just because I, when I cover things that are
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  this stressful, traumatic to hear about, honestly, I like to
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  give people something, you know, well, what can I do?
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  Right? So I, I think there's two sides
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  of it is, you know, what can, what can parents and families do
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  that care about the children who are being exposed to this in the
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  schools, which of course is my interest as an educator and a
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  librarian. But also, and, and I guess the
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  bigger question is because so many people are now working for
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  employers, because there's so many employers that are captured
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  regardless of what, like you said that I didn't really know
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  the fire service was captured. Like that's pretty, that
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  shouldn't matter, right? You should just fire police.
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  Basic services should not, should not be captured with
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  ideology. Like why?
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  You just want to save people's lives in their houses, right?
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  So what could, in your, in your opinion, what can we do?
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  What? What?
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  Not me as a journalist, but what can the public do if they see
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  that this is happening? Yeah, it it, it's really
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  difficult if if your employment rests on you toeing the line,
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  it's really difficult to speak out.
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  I'd I'd say you've got a kind of like find your voice.
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  You. That's that's the that's the
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  advice that I was given. You know, I did actually, I
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  didn't mention this. I went to a festival in 2024,
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  Jump for Freedom and Kelly J King was speaking there and I
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  asked her that very same questions.
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  She said find your voice if you're a parent, go to the
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  school and demand to know what you're teaching your kids.
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  And what Kelly Jane J Keen experienced was that they
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  wouldn't take her seriously as a woman.
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  So she said, fathers, you need to go, you know, because the
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  school will listen to you that that was Kelly J Keen saying
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  that. So as a kid, sorry, as a parent
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  with kids in school, demand to know what the teachers are
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  teaching your children. If you do have children that are
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  identifying as being as the opposite gender, I would point
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  you towards the organisation I mentioned earlier called
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  genspectgenspect.org. OK, check them out and you can
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  once you see there's a whole list of resources there.
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  OK, check them. There's another organisation I
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  come across called Our Duty as well, and it was an organisation
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  of parents that have trans identifying children that have
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  come together. So that's another one to look
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  at. But the big international
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  organisation fighting this is Genspect.
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  They've got they've got other sister organisations.
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  One of them is called Beyond Trans, which was a group of
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  psychotherapists that would not immediately affirm the child's
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  delusion and the gender they would explore.
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  Why they're having these thoughts or feelings often is
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  often is that they've been groomed online on social media.
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  Right, right. No, I can see that.
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  Yeah, yeah. Makes sense.
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  Yeah, definitely genspecgenspec.org.
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  Definitely. OK, all right.
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  I will put a link to that as well in the in the write up for
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  the interview so people can just.
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  Yeah. And check, check out our duty.
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  I can't remember it was our duty DOT, I think group our duty DOT
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  group, but you'll be able to search it.
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  OK, thank you. Thank you.
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  I'll, I'll have people can search that or if they're, if
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  they're watching it on YouTube, they don't typically see or, or
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  write up some links, but if you know, if they're on the UK call
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  it website, then we can link to it.
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  So last question I always ask everybody is, is there anything
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  else that you would like to say that we haven't covered so far
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  today? Oh God, I, I pretty much think
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  that we've covered it all. But what I would say, this is
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  just one topic that, that I, I'm focusing on.
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  I do like to focus on other things as well.
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  I, I suppose I am a bit of an activist, but I think one of the
• 1:12:06
  most compelling or important issues that we're facing at the
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  moment is the digital ID which is going through.
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  And I think it's this agenda, what I'm, what I'm fighting
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  against and the digital ID, it's all coming from the same top
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  globalist people. So I think we need to spread
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  awareness of that. I really do.
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  And along with of how it ties into central bank digital
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  currencies as well, because a lot of the general general
• 1:12:37
  public aren't as awake as auk column audience.
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  So I think everybody that's you know, that's watching this, that
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  you know, that follow UK column your main audience, a lot of a
• 1:12:48
  lot of them are actually older people that watch it.
• 1:12:52
  So they they might be in a position to speak out because
• 1:12:57
  they may be retired. So they don't have pay masters.
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  So what I would say to those people as well is find your
• 1:13:05
  voice, talk about these issues. If you haven't got a pay master,
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  OK, then you're free to speak. You know, I have some great
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  conversations on the street with people who are who, who can't,
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  who, who, who are backing me. They can't speak out.
• 1:13:23
  So I don't put the videos out on YouTube or on social media
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  because they're afraid of losing the job.
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  But I speak to people and they, they speak to me in confidence
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  in private. So go out.
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  Not everybody's going to throw soup or chilli sauce over you if
• 1:13:39
  you're having these conversations.
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  But I, I as well I'm talking, I talk about the, the trans
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  agenda, but it's a really good opportunity for me to reach
• 1:13:50
  people and talk about other agendas that you talk about on
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  UK column and what the UK column, you know, audience know
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  and the general public don't. So find your voice and speak to
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  people. Yeah, thanks for that.
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  I think you're an inspiration for sure for, for a lot, a lot
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  of people you really are. And it's, it's just been great
• 1:14:13
  to watch how your your your following has increased over the
• 1:14:17
  past few months and I am sure it will continue to do so.
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  So thank you so much for your time with me today.
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  It was really interesting to hear your own perspectives on on
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  what you've been doing and I really appreciate it.
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  No, thank you, Diane. Thank you for having me.
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  Thank you. This has been Diane Rasmussen
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  with UK column Talking with Steve James and once again you
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  can be found on Edge of the Matrix on YouTube, on X and on
• 1:14:44
  TikTok. So thank you for watching and
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  see you all again soon. Thank you.