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ITB on WBCB Radio: Former Eagles LB Mike Reichenbach Joins Caplan, DiCecco To Break Down Birds · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: We now go live to Chicky's and Pets for the
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Pro Football Report presented by BCWSA. Now Here are your
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hosts from Inside the Birds, Adam Kaplan and Andrew dicheck O.
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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, welcome to the Pro Football Report presented
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by BCWSA, right here on fourteen nine E WBCB and
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one O seven three FM, and also seen live at
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wbcbsports dot com. As the man said, it's Adam Kaplan
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and Andero Checko from Inside the Birds and Inside the
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Birds dot com and also with us tonight our special guest.
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I grew up watching them all the work, sort of
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the same age, close to the same number. Fifty five
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Mike Reichenbach, Mike back for joining us tonight.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, guys, thank you for inviting me. I appreciate
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it absolutely so.
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Speaker 2: Mike, you have this incredible career most people don't realize.
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Now only did you play here in Philly for the
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legend Jay Buddy Ryan. We'll get into that, and your
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your stories are insane awesome him, but you played for
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another big time Hall of Famer in Don Shula. I
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got to ask you this question before you got to Miami,
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and this is towards the end of your career, did
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you have any idea what Schula was like.
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Speaker 3: No, I didn't. I didn't know much about Don Shula
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the coach. You know, you heard, of course the legend
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he's been there for so long, but he you could
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tell that he was the same as Buddy Ryan old
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school football, but different personality. Buddy was the kind of
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guy that would say, go tell him how that we're
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going to beat him and how bad we're gonna beat him,
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and Don would say, hey, don't ruffle of feathers, don't
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don't put out the ammunition. So he was very conservative
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in that route.
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Speaker 4: Andrew, Yeah, so I have to ask you what it
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was like playing in Philadelphia under Wade Phillips and Jeff
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Fisher and maybe what you what their styles were like
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and how that maybe accentuated what you do.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the forty six defense when Buddy came in was
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a total different philosophy than most defensive played then. Buddy
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believed the defense could be an offensive weapon, so he attacked,
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and so he utilized the defense to change the game.
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And his thought philosophy was that defenses win games, I
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mean so, so he used it as an attack Jeff
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Fisher played for him in Chicago, was a was a
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good player but was injured and I know that, but
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but grasped the defense wholeheartedly. He knew the defense very well.
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So when Buddy went into to coach Philadelphia, he brought
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Jeff with him, so the same philosophy of attacking type
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of defense came with them. So it was it was interesting.
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So it was a little different than when with Marion Campbell,
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who was there prior to that was more of a bend,
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don't break kind of defense.
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Speaker 4: Did you ever get the sense that either would be
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go on to be head coaches at any point in
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their careers.
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Speaker 3: Well, you would. You would think that Jeff was because
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you saw the grooming going on. Jeff was. Jeff had
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a good concept of the whole game. He knew the player.
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He was a good players coach, so that you knew
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he was going.
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Speaker 2: To go on.
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Speaker 3: Jeff Wade Phillips a little different. I didn't think he
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would be the head coach, but I knew his dad
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would help that in some ways, because sometimes it's like
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any other job, it's who you know. So I think
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that helped him a lot. But two different types of
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coaches definitely you.
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Speaker 2: Listening to the voice of Mike Reichenbach, formert Eagles linebacker.
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It's Adam Kaplan and Andrew Tocheco here, Chicky and Pete
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and Warrington Pa my old stomping grounds. I grew up
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in Cheltenham, so it was pretty close by, right up
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six eleven off the PA Turnpike. Easy to get here,
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and Andrew, I'll tell you what there was like, no traffic,
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which is shocking for six eleven.
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Speaker 3: I loved it.
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Speaker 2: I got here in way less time than I thought.
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So get up here. You guys could have drinks of
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this after I will stay. If you want to get
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up here and have beers with me, you could do
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it right here after our show. So, Mike, you were
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in Philly what five or six years?
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Speaker 3: Six years?
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Speaker 2: Six years? So you got there in nineteen eighty four. Right,
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this is Marion camp old swamp Fox. Let's talk about Swampy,
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legendary defensive mind. What were your thoughts on him?
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Speaker 3: Great? He was a good players coach. What happened then
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as I walked in there, because all I heard was
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about the NFL and you had to be in the
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best shape of your life and work. So I was coming
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out of Division two school as a free agent. People
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say to me, what's the difference between Stroudsburg, Yeah, East Stroudsburg.
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They say, what's the difference between a free agent and
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a draft pick? I said, well, about a three three
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million dollar signing bonus. So so I coming out of
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small school. I worked tremendously hard and prepared for it.
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And when we came to camp, Swamp Fox had that
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laid back mentality. They had a very veteran football team
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that kind of we kind of they kind of settled
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into a five hundred type football team. They just didn't
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have that fire. So when I came to camp, I'm
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going after people. Mike Quick was a wide receiver, so
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he was so I remember one play he was. It
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was a sweep and and of course I start to
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pursue outside to get it. They had a crack block,
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which is a wide receiver coming down inside. Well, I
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see him coming, so I turned on him and hit
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him head on and knocked him down. And he looked
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up at me and said, rookie, do you know who
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I am? I said, I don't care who you are.
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I got to make this football team. It was kind
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of a doggy dog but so so a different type
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mentality coming out of Division two school and seeing that
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the more laid back kind of mentality.
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Speaker 4: So you mentioned you mentioned East Stroudsburg and Eagles defensive
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coordinator Vic Vangio attended East Stroudsberg.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, were you aware of his legacy at the time?
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Was he around the at all?
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Speaker 3: No, I wasn't aware of him. You heard of other
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guys that were that came out soon after that was
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Franklin at Penn State. You know, you'd hear about coaches.
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They were always known as a good coaching They would
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put out good coaching product. I mean, the good coaches
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that came from there were very successful.
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Speaker 2: Mike. One of the things that's amazing in your career.
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So we talked about Swamp Fox, Marion Campbell, and then
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in nineteen eighty six guy went to Super Bowl as
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a defensive coordinator, the legendary Buddy Ryan. Tell us about
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your indoctrination with with Buddy Ryan and what was like
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when you first met him.
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Speaker 3: Buddy was an interesting guy. He first meeting I had
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with him, he watched all the film and he basically
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called me in and said, Mike, I like the way
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you play, he said, I'm going to make you this
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single call, or you're going to be captain, he said.
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But he said, you have to come back in the
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best shape of your life. He said, But I'm gonna
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because I'm gonna try to kill these guys. It's basically
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the terminologies. I hate to use that, but he said,
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But he said, and whoever falls, he said, I'm gonna
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cut them. So the year before, m Ab did this
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this poster of individual snapshots of every player. So every
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time he would cut a player, we'd cut their picture
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out of the pit. So at the end of camp
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it was like Swiss cheese. There was only about it
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was only about twenty guys left. But so he came
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in and he worked. He put he raised a bar
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and just he said. This is the comment he made
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to me. He said, if I can't change my people,
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I will change my people. And so and that's what
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he did. He he went about changing the culture of
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the way they played football here. So definitely definitely a
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change of attitude. So we got a lot, we got
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rid of a lot of veterans. But but us of
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that that survived had had to make it through camp.
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Speaker 2: So I got to ask this question, So you play
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in the forty six, what was that like? Because that's
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a legendary defense. What was it like to try to
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learn that?
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Speaker 3: The forty six was very difficult coming in because everything
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was done on the field, so all adjustments. So what
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Buddy would do is he'd write a game plan and
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he would put all the defenses that we could run
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across the top, which were numerous. It's forty six, forty
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six blitz, forty six coverage, four three four three blitz
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for three. He had different different defenses we could run,
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forty six being the main one, and then he would
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put every formation the team could run down down the
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side of the Excel spreadsheet and he said, Mike, if
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I call forty six blitz and they come in this formation,
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I want for this blitz. If they could come in
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this cover, if they come out, if I call coverage,
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I want this defense. If I called you know, four
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to three blitz, I want this cover. So and then
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he said, now if they come out in this formation
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and I call this is what I want. So it
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was all memorization. So he had to change the front
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and the coverage depending on what formation they came out in.
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Very difficult.
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Speaker 4: How did you go about trying to master that because
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it's not I can't imagine it's easy the way you're
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describing it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. God blessed me with the ability to
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remember it. It's all I mean, because it was it
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was pretty much memorization. That's pretty much what it was.
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You had to memorize what it was because as soon
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as they came out, and and and the coaches started
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to see that. So what they did is they would
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come out, line up, start shifting and motioning, and so
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we had to change everything on the fly. But so
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at one time I came off the field and we
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were we were actually playing the Dolphins. Marino Reno is
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the best. So we're blitzing them. We're trying to get him,
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and Reno is the best at it because the man covered,
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he knows the the the the the the mismatches. He
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gets rid of the ball quick. So we're trying to
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cover the guy's man the man, and we couldn't get
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to them. So I come to the sidelines. I said, buddy,
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it's not working. We got to get out of the blitz.
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He said, listen to me. I drew it up. They're
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not running it right. Go back out there and tell
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him to wow, I said. So I came back to
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the huddle and they said, what do he say? I said,
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you guys ain't running it right.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. So that's that's amazing. So I do want
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to ask you, because I know you you still follow
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the Eagles. Andrew and I were at training camp all
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the time, right and we it was obviously their linebacker
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group is finally starting to get there where it needed
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to be. It it'd been a number of years since
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they had competent inside backers. So when you watch this team,
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you see a guy like Jah Hot Campbell, you're you're
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you're six two, you said, you told us off there
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you were actually two fifty.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one point two yeah, two forty five, two fifty,
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and he dropped down to what two thirty Yeah. When
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we went to the forty six, it was a lot
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of man to man, so I had to when thirty four,
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you're just head button guards all day, So you just
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had you had to be two fifty just to match
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up with those guys.
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Speaker 2: But when you look at this linebacker, you see a
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guy like Jahead Campbell around six three, two forty two
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forty five. That's not like back in your day. Maybe
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that that might have been it, but usually today's linebackers
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two twenty two twenty five, which I think is crazy,
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but you know they're doing it. When you watch the
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Eagles defense, what do you think of this group?
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Speaker 3: I think the big thing that separates them but the
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number one of the guys up front. So you want
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to keep the guys off of the linebackers so they
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can flow and go to the football. That's what Buddy
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was real big on too. I mean, he pretty much
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put a lot on those guys. That's why he heavily
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filled those positions. He had Reggie and Jerome and you
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know Clyde Simmons and you see the guys that were
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up there, Mike Pitts and you know the guys that
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played up there. He puts a lot of that and says,
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keep these guys off the guys that are going to
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make the plays. And I think Vic finjer he does
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the same things. He has the big guys up front
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so that the guys that are paid to make the
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tackles go and make the plays. And the biggest thing
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with them is they're more disciplined. And see you see
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so much in the league now, where guys take themselves
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out of the play by over pursuing. You know, between
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the hash and the sidelines, you might three three, see
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three defenders already over pursued. That's why guy cuts back
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and breaks free and goes because there's no one in
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the space who's supposed to be there. So the discipline
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of not of leverage and not overplaying and not over
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pursuing is huge. Discipline on defense is huge.
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Speaker 4: Now, what's your assessment of Jihad Campbell through the first
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two games.
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Speaker 3: I think he has the intensity and the ability. He
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can run, he can move, he can go si sideline sign,
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but he could also butt it up and play inside.
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I mean that's the difference. Usually you get the like
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you said, you get those light guys that can run
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and go to the ball. They can't take on the block.
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And that's why these zone plays, which we used to
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call dive play games, you know, fifty sixty yards and
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goes for a touchdown. They told us if a dive
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play gains more than three yards, you're gonna get cut.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 3: Because you had everything was disciplined. It was taking on guards,
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it was taking on linemen and filling holes and making
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them go east and west. You didn't want the back
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going north and south. That's where he wants to go.
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You make them go east and west and run him
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towards the sidelines.
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Speaker 2: Who are your linebackers coaches throughout your career.
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Speaker 3: Well, Wade Phillips was there when I first got there.
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A guy named George Hill, who was an old Woody
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Hayes coached under Woody Hayes and had the same philosophers.
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So we went to play one year when I was
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with the Dolphins. Actually, because George left the Eagles went
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to the Doc That's why I went there. I don't
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know why. It must have been crazy because he was
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an old school kind of guy, just real intense. And
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we were playing the Raiders. So the Raiders were real
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laid back then. They were. They were just you know,
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they were good. Everybody wanted to play. Howie Long was there,
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all those great players and they were willing. Yeah, Matt
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Millen and they were all. They really won. They went
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to the Super Bowls, and so everybody want to play
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for the Raiders. So we go to play them in Japan.
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So we go over there for a week to practice
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with them, and so we come out and George Hill
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says to us in the huddle before we go nine
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on seven, which is a run drill, which means you're
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gonna you're gonna be hitting people. So we go in
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the huddle and he goes, we're gonna show them. We're
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gonna set the tone for the week, for the game.
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We're gonna but take him, smack him in the fade out.
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He's going through the all things. So the Raiders come out.
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First play, they run to play. We hit him in
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the face. They're like, yo, what are you guys doing.
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I'm just saying live this is like this is They
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don't practice like this. So they go back to the huddle.
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We come out again. Second play. Bamn, we smack them
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in the face again. So now they go back to
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the huddle. They sit there for ten minutes. They won't
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come out.
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Speaker 2: Are you serious?
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Speaker 3: So they said they thought they sent a message. So
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they come out to the ball again. We smack him
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in the face again. They go back and sit for
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fifteen minutes. So we had hibout. It was like a
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forty play period. I think we got five plays it
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because they weren't going to play like that. And that
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was George hill.
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Speaker 2: When you smack him in the face literally like I mean,
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I mean.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, Spike, I'm sorry. Face. We were taught that
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you you butt the guards in the face. So you
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butt them with your face masks. You never put your
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head down because that's your that's you break your neck.
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I mean that's you see guys nowadays going to tackle
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and they drop their heads. That's what when you The
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face mask was designed to dissipate the hit. So you
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hit the face mask, it dissipates out the back. Yeah,
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that's that's what it was designed for. So we were
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taught you butt him down the face because if you
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it's like a boxer. If you see a guy boxing
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and you he gets hit in the face, everything stops
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for a second. Same thing with alignment. If you hit
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him in the face, his feet stop. Now the inertia
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deteke that take get that guard to go or that
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tackle to move his feet again, that's he's never gonna
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catch you. That's called defeating the block. So you would
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defeat the block, then go to the ball. You see
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these guys now they just run to the ball. So
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that lineman still paid to block you, so he's gonna
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follow you. So those guys get there, they break down
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and all of a sudden the last minute say boom
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they get wiped out. Wow, because they never defeated the block.
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Speaker 4: Now, which of the linebackers coaches that you've had during
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your career do you feel helped you the most.
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Speaker 3: I would say probably George Hill. George Hill was a
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great coach when it came to technique. All you did
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was work on technique and fundamentals and how to defeat blocks,
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playoff blocks, go to the ball. Discipline, never over always
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knowing leverage, never over pursuing. Very beneficial. I mean, probably
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one of the best coaches that I had.
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Speaker 2: Wow. You heard the voice of Mike Reicherbach, former Eagle
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Dolphin and you were briefly with the forty nine ers.
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your toughest injury to deal with as a player.
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Speaker 3: Uh, pretty much every week you had, you would have bumps,
18:55
some bruises, and you had to work through them because
18:56
if you you know, back then, you had I think
18:59
it was fifty forty eight guys per roster, so your
19:03
your second team was as good as your first team.
19:05
So I mean if you were off the field, somebody
19:07
was gonna take your job. I mean, there was only
19:09
twenty eight teams, but once you expand, you kind of
19:11
dissipate that. But so I think the worst was we
19:15
were playing the Giants up in the meadowlands and the
19:17
whole pile fell on my ankle one time, and I
19:20
heard crackling and crunching, and so you knew something was wrong.
19:24
But back then, you they would they would kind of
19:27
ice it and do the whole thing and elevate and
19:30
you came back the next week, but I couldn't put
19:33
weight on it. There was a lot of different leg
19:35
injuries and things like that.
19:36
Speaker 2: Tell us about Otho Davis.
19:39
Speaker 3: Otho was was very interesting in his philosophy around.
19:42
Speaker 2: Former athletic trainer.
19:44
Speaker 3: People don't the athletic trainer, and pretty much when you
19:48
went into the training room, you knew that everything was
19:51
being recorded, so you their job was to get you
19:54
back on the field, really to tell you the truth,
19:57
and so they would they would try to get you
19:59
back on the field because when you were injured, they
20:02
could never release you. Once you stepped back on the field,
20:05
they could release you. So there was a lot of
20:07
ways of of they tried to get you back on
20:09
the field. And if you weren't one hundred percent then
20:11
you would get caught. So you but you had to play.
20:14
And there was one injury where we were playing the
20:17
Cowboys and Tony dor said had this quick screen and
20:20
I had a man the man so I got out
20:21
there and and the linemen aren't supposed to hit you
20:24
before the ball gets there, but the guy cut me
20:25
down on my knee and I came up and I
20:27
couldn't feel my knee, so I had to get back
20:30
to the huddle because I had to make the call,
20:31
the signal call, and I could feel that it was
20:34
you know, I just couldn't feel anything, so thinking, okay,
20:36
So we got out of the it was the fourth down.
20:39
So I go to the sign and said, oh, though
20:41
my knee, I can't feel it. He goes, let me
20:43
see it. So he jigg a little litle. He goes,
20:45
it's a sprain. You're okay. So people say to me, now,
20:49
was there was there a Was there a medical tent?
20:51
I said, yeah, they would put the towel over you
20:54
and they would stuff smelling salce up your nose, and
20:56
that was the medical tent. So you get back on
20:58
the field.
20:59
Speaker 4: Now, while we're on the object of injuries, you obviously
21:01
played a veteran stadium which is notoriously known for being
21:04
a harsh surface for players to play on. Any memories
21:08
of playing on that in terms of how it affected
21:10
your body, well.
21:12
Speaker 3: I mean, just for me to be there was a proage.
21:14
I mean I didn't I was coming. Again, if you
21:16
were to talked to any of the coaches coming up
21:18
out of a little league to high school, if I
21:20
would have thought they I would have made it to
21:22
the NFL. None would have said that. I mean, my
21:24
college coach thought I could. But so the field itself
21:28
was just that it was turf. It was difficult because
21:31
back then turf was was pretty much a carpet with
21:34
a pad under it, so that pad, whenever it would
21:37
get wet and cold, it would freeze, so it would
21:39
be hard. It would be hard like rock. So and
21:42
then you had to deal with the different seams and
21:45
things for the for the baseball diamond and things like that.
21:47
Guys guys hated to play here. Every team that would
21:50
come in and say, why don't they redo this thing?
21:52
Because if they'd hate it, paid play in here.
21:54
Speaker 2: So during the regular season, where were you guys practice?
21:57
Speaker 3: We would Originally we used to practice at JFK BEFO.
22:00
They before they demolished it. They put it down and
22:02
then they built the practice field in the corner of
22:05
the parking lot up there a grass field that's where
22:08
we'd and then they put the bubble up there. There
22:09
was a bubble that we weather got bad, that's where
22:12
we would go. So, yeah, that's where we would practice.
22:15
Speaker 2: All right, let's turn our attention to the Eagles injury.
22:17
So Andrew, you know that Dallas got it didn't play
22:19
last week, right, and that was surve of an issue.
22:22
What were your thoughts on on who filled in well?
22:24
Speaker 4: On the first play of the game, Grant cal Katra
22:27
whiffed on the block. There was a blitzing defensive back
22:29
Jay when Watson, and it affected the play. Now on
22:32
the bottom of the screen, aj Brown was streaking wide open,
22:35
and Kevin Patulo today when he spoke Eagles offensive coordinator,
22:39
he mentioned that, yeah, that was there. They had it
22:41
dialed up, so that obviously impacted that. But I thought
22:44
by and large, both Grant cal Katara and Kylon grants
22:46
and that's not their forte They're not in line blockers.
22:49
They're willing, but it didn't necessarily surface in terms of
22:53
being able to help in the running game or anything
22:55
like that. I thought Cameron Lattu, who was elevated from
22:58
the practice squad first NFL game, played six snaps, had
23:01
a really nice block two plays before Jalen Hurts punched
23:04
it in from one yard out nine minutes they left
23:06
in the fourth quarter, drove Charles a menaheue back into
23:10
the end zone. So that might be a player that
23:12
they try to find a role for. Because you can
23:14
see that he sort of has taken he has a
23:17
knack for it.
23:18
Speaker 2: Jordan Davis will go to defense. Jordan Davis was he
23:21
limped off a little bit with his leg. We'll see
23:22
if they listened tomorrow on the injury report. And then
23:24
the one that would concern me, Andrew is Jalen Carter.
23:28
I know Fandrews asked this fanjer was asked to sitting
23:31
in this press conference.
23:32
Speaker 3: Carter.
23:33
Speaker 2: A couple of times he's leaving the field holding his
23:35
wrist or his hand. So now you guys get to
23:37
watch a little practice, not very much. It's warm ups
23:40
fifteen minutes. So how close can you get to actually
23:42
look at that?
23:43
Speaker 4: Well, I have this handy dandy iPhone, but I zoom
23:48
in and it's almost like you got binocular. So I'm
23:50
gonna try my best to track down Jalen Carter and
23:53
see if I can I found able to gauge anything.
23:56
And then, of course, the first injury report of the
23:58
week will be released about five thirty.
23:59
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, regular season practice, do you remember how
24:01
long they would be?
24:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're usually on the field about three hours in the.
24:06
Speaker 2: Regular season two and a half. Who would they hit.
24:09
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, matter of fact, this is crazy.
24:11
Speaker 2: Matter of fact.
24:12
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, if we would lose, we would be
24:15
out in full pads on Friday.
24:18
Speaker 2: And that's the light day, by the way, that's the light.
24:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know we would be in full pads. So
24:22
at the end of the game, if you were losing
24:23
and you said and if the clock was winding down,
24:25
you didn't care you were losing, you were like, oh,
24:26
we got.
24:27
Speaker 2: To be in full pets, right, and they would be
24:29
a court martial. There would be fines.
24:31
Speaker 4: Oh, that wouldn't ye Chargers if you did that. So
24:35
Adam mentioned practice earlier, and Lehigh was a place that
24:39
the Eagles used to practice. Of course now they're at Novacare.
24:42
But when you were with the Eagles, Mike, you practice
24:45
at west Chester University, which is very close to where
24:48
I live right now. What are some of your recollections
24:51
of practicing there.
24:52
Speaker 3: Well, we yeah, we would go to camp there, so
24:54
six weeks. Our camp was six weeks long, six weeks
24:58
or two a day's So you'd have two week weeks
25:01
with no games, and then four weeks we had four
25:03
preseason games, and then four weeks with four weeks of
25:06
practice full pads two a days. We stayed in the dorms,
25:12
so it was a college dorm and you know you
25:15
had the you know, the the window air conditioners to
25:18
try and cool it down to normal students. The students
25:21
there wouldn't get air conditioners, so they'd look at us
25:23
and gore, those guys are here, they get the air conditioners.
25:25
Speaker 2: We don't.
25:25
Speaker 3: We don't get the air conditioners. So yeah, it was
25:28
it was definitely. And then down we practiced on two
25:32
fields there the game made game field, but not all
25:34
the time. There was a lower field which was a
25:36
practice field, which was down in a bowl, so no
25:38
air got down in there, which coaches love. Players didn't
25:41
like it too much. So but yeah, it was definitely
25:45
an experience.
25:47
Speaker 2: How would you recover from a game? What would you do?
25:50
Because sports science came in much later, what would you
25:52
do to recovery from each other?
25:53
Speaker 3: Well, what we do is you had to come in
25:55
right after the game to get treatment. So the biggest
25:58
thing was you'd get you'd go into an ice bad
26:00
and so that would get the swelling and get that
26:03
under control, and then right away you had to stay
26:06
there until you were They would do ultrasound, they would
26:10
do all this stuff, you know, the equipment and things
26:12
like that, but it was mainly it was ice, you know,
26:15
elevate and if you needed it, they would send you
26:18
down to the hospital to get you know, an iv
26:21
of some type. The older guys didn't really know everything
26:25
that was in that ivy, but you would get an
26:27
ivy boy from.
26:31
Speaker 2: By the way. For the Rams. You should say this
26:32
because this could impact the matchup. A killer Witherspoon their
26:35
best corner journeyman, but a decent player. He's done for
26:38
at least probably six weeks to eight broken clavicle Andrew.
26:42
Now Emmanuel Forbes, who who was a total bus for
26:46
the Commanders. Yep, what are your thoughts at him? He'll
26:48
be starting for the Rams when they faced the Eagles.
26:51
Speaker 4: Well, it wouldn't surprise me, Adam if he still has
26:53
nightmares about AJ Brown because AJ Brown imposed his will.
26:57
I guess it was two three years ago now. But
27:00
very small corner that I think that.
27:02
Speaker 2: Well thin, right, he's stall but he's thin.
27:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very thin. So that that's an advantage for
27:08
the Eagles if they're able to get AJ Brown matched
27:10
up against them where he can out muscle them. So
27:12
I think that's that's a clear advantage.
27:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, for this matchup, Mike. When you look at the Rams,
27:19
they are two and zero. Sean McVay a great coach.
27:22
You actually were with the forty nine ers briefly. Was
27:26
there anything going against the West Coast offense which a
27:28
lot of teams are running. It's still very popular. Do
27:30
you remember going against it?
27:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, the forty nine ers actually with Joe Montanus your quarterback,
27:36
and then he left and Steve Young took over, and
27:38
they had that incredible receiver court and they had you know,
27:41
Roger Craig in the backfield. I mean, you had weapons,
27:45
and the offensive line was good, and your defense was good.
27:47
They were just where they were one of those teams
27:49
that they changed the league because the way they played.
27:52
They played at a higher level that you know, they
27:55
were a great team because they didn't make mistakes, like
27:58
when the game was on the line, they didn't get
27:59
stupid penalty when they you know, they had to make
28:01
a play because they did everything situational. That was the
28:04
first team I went to that only had one a
28:06
day practices in camp. In camp shocking back, so they
28:11
had one to day practice and then the second practice
28:14
was all special teams, but everything was situational. So here's
28:18
the difference between the forty nine ers when we would
28:20
go to camp. When we went to camp that year,
28:22
they did everything like they expected to be in a
28:24
super Bowl. They met like they were going to the
28:26
super Bowl. They would talk then they go, hey, when
28:28
we get to the big game, this is what's going
28:29
to happen. That's how they that's how they set that
28:32
culture and it raised the bar. I mean, they actually
28:36
had the people to do it. They were talented, very
28:38
talented team.
28:39
Speaker 2: Mike. One question on Buddy Ryan and obviously they didn't
28:43
want a playoff game here. Why do you think he
28:44
crashed and burned late? Why did he not make it?
28:46
He was a head coach.
28:47
Speaker 3: The biggest thing with Buddy was he put and there
28:53
were good people around him, but he wanted loyal people
28:56
rather than the best people, and so some of the
29:00
coaching I think that it was subpar. And he was
29:04
very defense focused. So he he he took his highest
29:08
draft picks and put him all on defense and then
29:11
he kind of took what was left and put it.
29:13
Not at the offense was that, but he would always
29:15
try to piece together the offense, and they they kind
29:19
of they were pretty much, you know, run first down,
29:21
run second down, throw third down. It was pretty basic
29:24
offense and we never had that those big weapons until
29:27
Randall came in. Yep, and Randall came in Randall Cunningham
29:31
and just opened up the game as a quarterback.
29:34
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entered Checko and former Egos linebacker Or I would say,
33:06
as Vic Fanger would say, you're an ILB.
33:08
Speaker 3: I LB inside. Yeah, always inside, never outside.
33:11
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. Help me, by the way, so what
33:13
did you what position do you play? In high school?
33:16
Speaker 3: I was actually a defensive end, a tight end. Yeah,
33:19
I was only about one hundred. I was about one
33:21
hundred and ninety five pounds in.
33:23
Speaker 2: Did you have a growth spurt? Yeah?
33:25
Speaker 3: When I went to college, hit the weight room harder
33:28
and they moved me the linebacker. So when I went
33:32
to college, I started to be about two twenty five
33:35
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33:37
I was about two forty five.
33:39
Speaker 2: Now you were a tight end an edge rusher in
33:43
high school.
33:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, defensive end kind of different in high school football
33:46
back then, it wasn't much as much an edge rusher
33:49
as if somebody had turned everything back inside.
33:51
Speaker 2: Right right right? Boy, just going from both sides of
33:55
the foot, was it really tough you mentally to go
33:57
from offense to defense?
33:59
Speaker 9: Not a that.
34:00
Speaker 3: I mean, I enjoyed offense just because you could get
34:03
out and catch the ball. I mean it was kind
34:05
of different. I mean, I blocked, but they used me
34:07
as a as a catching tight end because I because
34:09
I could catch the ball. So it was kind of
34:11
They didn't use tight ends a whole lot back then,
34:13
so it was kind of a little different. So, yeah,
34:15
that was that was an interesting experience with me. But
34:17
I think I was more always a defensive player though,
34:20
mindset more. I used to say to people, if you're
34:22
a logical thinker, and you're and you're kind of cerebral,
34:25
you're an offensive player. I said, if you're a junkyard dog,
34:28
you gotta go play defense.
34:30
Speaker 4: But now, Mike, you were part of a storied defense
34:33
in Philadelphia, So I have to ask you about Reggie White,
34:37
is there any stories that that that come to mind
34:39
that you're able to share.
34:40
Speaker 3: Reggie was was just was the real deal. He just
34:43
was a He was a great guy, good husband, a
34:47
man of God, just totally authentic. But he was always
34:51
a kid at heart. So you remember the pre rap,
34:54
the pre rap that you would put under your tape
34:56
was red and it was like a foamy sub. He
34:59
would rap his head in that and poke little eyeshole
35:01
eye holes in it and come out like Spider Man.
35:05
So he would come out all kinds of So he
35:06
was a kid at heart, but a guy that just
35:09
kind of brought the locker room together. Was it was
35:11
a unifying guy that just was a great influence on
35:14
the game.
35:15
Speaker 4: Did you guys have a close relationship.
35:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting because over the years, I was
35:20
on two different sides. Like I was one of the
35:21
guys that was out, you know, hitting the streets and
35:23
things like that. And it's funny because later in my career,
35:27
and of course Reggie was was a pastor and so
35:30
I had gotten given my life to Christ later in
35:33
my career and a guy from our church came to Reggie.
35:35
He was signing autographs and he said, hey, Mike, Greg
35:38
gave his life to Christ. He's you know, he's a Christian.
35:40
Comes to our church and Reggie stops signing. He looked
35:42
up and he goes, yeah, right. So he called me
35:47
up and he said, Mike, you're the last guy I
35:49
thought would ever come to know Jesus as a savior.
35:51
And I said, well, I said, they're still miracles. So
35:53
he said, we used to use you in our Bible
35:55
study what not to do? Really, so wow, he was.
35:58
He was just a great guy. Yeah, he's a good man.
36:01
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36:08
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36:25
So you got two two and zero teams. The Eagles
36:28
have won all three games in Nick Sirianni's career against
36:31
the Rams. And look, the the second game was in
36:33
the snow. You were there in Philly. That was a
36:36
fun game. They almost lost.
36:37
Speaker 4: I mean, it was one of the best games I've
36:39
ever covered. Really why, I just I just thought that
36:42
the ambiance of the snow and then seeing Saquon run
36:46
for that seventy eight yard touchdown where he's tapping his helmet,
36:49
and it was just, I guess, a high intensity game.
36:52
And then of course the snow being the backdrop certainly didn't.
36:55
Speaker 2: Hurt Mike playing in the snow. I look, I was
36:59
at the Lions Eagles game at twenty thirteen here when
37:02
it was the first time in my career it was
37:04
not on the forecast. The Lions didn't have the proper jack,
37:08
which is ridiculous, but they didn't because it came out
37:10
of nowhere. Did you like playing the snow? It was
37:13
better than the heat.
37:14
Speaker 3: Once I had a chance to play in Miami, it
37:17
was so hot down and that was the reason why
37:19
we beat teams because they would come down there and
37:21
it was so hot and humid, big, big difference. So
37:25
it was different. We go up to Buffalo when you
37:27
when you practiced, didn't the heat all the time, and
37:29
then you went to Buffalo and the snow, and that
37:31
was that was a little difficult because you weren't as
37:33
used to the snow, but not as much. I like
37:37
playing in the mud at the snow because it slowed
37:39
everybody down to my speed.
37:43
Speaker 2: Say that, see, but again you were a tight end
37:45
in high school. You could move.
37:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wasn't known for as a as a
37:48
burner I mean to coming, I mean, you know, my
37:51
speed wasn't the thing that was going to get me
37:53
to make it in the NFL. It was. It was
37:55
the ability to to Because.
37:57
Speaker 2: I know that you didn't you didn't go to the combine,
37:59
but did you work offer teams prior to the draft?
38:02
Speaker 3: Well, the way it worked in Strausburg back then because
38:04
we you didn't have social media, you didn't have all
38:06
these things. So so if if a scout was coming
38:09
by Strausburg and needed gas, he would pull in and go, oh,
38:12
there's a college there, let's go check him out and
38:14
see if they So it was kind of like even
38:16
if you worked out, you know, you gotta you might
38:19
have just got done doing squats and they would call
38:20
you up from your office and go, hey, there's a
38:22
scout here to want you to run. You're like, are
38:24
you kidding? So that was about it. We got to
38:27
there was there was combined coaches that they would cover
38:29
like three or four teams, and then that's the guys
38:32
that will work you out. Did you have an agent
38:35
when I first came in, Yeah, that I had a
38:36
guy named Lloyd Remick.
38:38
Speaker 2: He was just what he represented me for like like
38:41
six weeks.
38:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he was. He was. He was a guy
38:44
that my brother in law knew who was was an attorney,
38:46
but he was. He had two of them guys that
38:48
were on the Eagles then, which was ray Ellis and
38:51
and Greg Brown, and he got them big, big contracts.
38:55
And but then I found out the reason he got
38:57
him is because he knew the the owners Leonard To's
39:00
his daughter, how about that inside And he was a
39:04
great agent. I mean he was one.
39:06
Speaker 2: He was.
39:06
Speaker 3: But he had big stars. He had, you know, Grover Washington,
39:09
He had a lot of big celebrities and hit boxers
39:11
and he just yeah, for a free agent guy, he
39:15
just it just was he had you know, it was.
39:17
I was a guy you had to work for because
39:19
you had to go in and negotiate and do all that.
39:21
So I had then a guy named Jimmy Solana.
39:23
Speaker 2: Who was just just passed away the nicest guy in
39:25
the world.
39:26
Speaker 3: Nicest guy in the world, great agent good Man, worked
39:28
hard for you.
39:29
Speaker 2: Yeah and right. So we got the game on Sunday
39:31
here one and one Eastern game and I love it. Yeah,
39:35
for US reporters, we love it, Mike. Did they have
39:38
evening games? Do they have like the night games?
39:40
Speaker 3: Back in the back then what they had was they
39:42
had the Sunday night. You would have Sunday night kind
39:45
of game, but you only had Monday night. There was
39:47
no Thursday night. It was Sunday, you know, one and four,
39:50
and they might have a night game, but then it
39:51
was Monday night. That was it. That Monday night was
39:53
the big one.
39:53
Speaker 4: Now you have a game pretty much every night, every night,
39:56
every night.
39:57
Speaker 2: Can you imagine playing on the day after Thanksgiving Black Friday?
40:01
That's strange to me.
40:02
Speaker 3: Yeah. We we played a couple well, we had to
40:04
play a couple of games on Thanksgiving just because of
40:07
the Cowboys were always on.
40:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you win? Did you win?
40:12
Speaker 3: We beat them to one year down in Dallas. That
40:14
was the the That wasn't good because it turned it
40:17
almost turned into a big fight. Well Buddy, but Buddy,
40:21
Buddy was right before Thanksgiving. Buddy was down at a
40:24
restaurant in Philadelphia and almost he choked.
40:26
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they.
40:28
Speaker 3: Had to do the heimlich maneuver, made fun of him.
40:30
I remember we went down there and they were they
40:33
were just throwing big chunks of meat at us because
40:35
we came out onto the field smokes.
40:38
Speaker 2: By the way, did you have any idea how big
40:39
the rivalry with the Cowboys sports when you came here.
40:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm from Bethlehem, so you knew. You knew
40:44
the big rivalry. And that's the thing that I think
40:46
you lose now because guys back then used to stay
40:48
their whole careers with one team. I mean, you knew
40:51
the rivalries because you pretty much stayed with them for
40:53
a long time. Then free agency came in, and now
40:55
guys are moving every couple of years and they don't
40:57
even realize that the teams, you know, the rivalries and
41:00
things like that.
41:01
Speaker 2: So all right, Andrew, let's get to this game. So Sunday,
41:04
it's gonna be warm. The early forecast is in the seventies,
41:07
nothing like nineties in Kansas City last week, but so
41:10
we should have good weather baring a change again. One
41:12
Eastern game early, which is good for everybody all concerned
41:15
So how do you see this matchup.
41:17
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a big Saquon Barkley game.
41:19
Saquon obviously had a lot of success last season rushing
41:22
against the Rams, and that is the Eagles bread and
41:25
butter right now. Now there are gonna have they should,
41:28
I should say have some opportunities to really work the
41:30
secondary because you mentioned a Kello Witherspoon won't be there.
41:33
Emmanuel Forbes is a player who they should have success again.
41:37
So if they're trying to get their passing game on, uh,
41:39
start to get that rolling, that would be a good
41:41
opportunity to do so. But I really like this Rams
41:43
defense at them a lot of young players. They they
41:46
play with tenacity, They float to the football with urgency.
41:49
Jared Versus is a nice player that they have. So
41:52
I'm curious to see if they what they've learned since
41:55
the previous you know, having faced them twice last season.
41:57
Speaker 2: Mike, when you when you face a team a certain
41:59
amount of time, is it kind of like, okay, we
42:01
kind of know them, Like how do you feel about
42:03
when there's like a sort of a rematch, which was
42:05
with the Rams from last season?
42:07
Speaker 3: Well, I think they the Eagles have to play their game.
42:10
I mean, you you prepare, you do everything you can.
42:12
I mean there's so much that changes the game nowadays
42:15
because of against expansion and injuries, injuries, like you guys
42:20
are covering the injury report. That changes the game drastically
42:23
because in a lot of respects some teams that once
42:27
you go to the second string guy is not as
42:30
good as the first string guy. That was an argued
42:33
day that second string was almost as good as the starter.
42:35
So you knew you had to keep playing because if
42:37
you didn't, he was going to take your job. And
42:40
I think you know, injuries are big. I think that
42:43
the Eagles have the dominant They can control the game.
42:47
I mean, they can run the football, control the clock.
42:50
They had the front line, it's it's and the defense
42:52
now is playing well. They're attacking. I mean they went
42:55
after the Chiefs this pat You could see the difference.
42:57
I think they have to keep the same mindset going
42:59
again the Rams, go after them and make them make plays,
43:03
you know, blitz them and and go after them. I
43:06
think so I think they I think they'll they'll they'll
43:09
they'll play a game different. You have to change it up,
43:12
that's what that's these guys coaches get big, big, big money.
43:15
Speaker 2: For so speaking of that, Andrew, I was stunned. Seven
43:18
blitzes from Fandrio in the first half. I think eleven total. Yeah,
43:22
I like, this is not this is not what Vic does.
43:24
What are your thoughts on that?
43:25
Speaker 3: Yeah?
43:26
Speaker 4: And he was asked today about why was there such
43:29
a star contrast compared to the Super Bowl. He said, well,
43:31
we didn't need them back in the game in February.
43:34
We needed them, you know, on Sunday because you have
43:37
to be more aggressive. To me, it suggested that they
43:41
didn't have a whole ton of uh, they didn't think
43:44
a whole lot of the skill set players that the
43:46
skill players that the Chiefs had, and so you saw
43:49
a much more attack style defense from Vic Fangio.
43:52
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48:04
the Birds and at number fifty five Eagles linebacker from
48:09
let me see eighty four to eighty nine, was that correct?
48:11
Or eighty eight, eighty nine, eighty nine? Okay, okay. Mike
48:15
Reichenbach and Mike played at East Strouds. Now did they
48:17
called East Stroutsburg State back then? No?
48:20
Speaker 3: We changed to a university then, Oh, oh big time.
48:24
I call it the Ivy League of the Poconoes.
48:27
Speaker 4: So I have to ask you, Mike, going from East Strausburg,
48:30
a Division two school going to the NFL. That's a
48:32
big leap. But what was your mentality in trying to
48:35
establish that staying power initially?
48:37
Speaker 3: Well, you're right, I mean, I mean the Pennsylvania Conference
48:40
at that time Division two was good football. I mean
48:42
we had some guys, but you didn't have the back
48:44
then it was it was. It was a far reached
48:47
most of they there was so many Division one teams,
48:49
of course they would hit them first. Division two was
48:51
kind of looked down on, only because every week they
48:54
didn't think you played in front of that level of
48:56
talent every week in and week out. I mean, as
49:00
you want, you had to be pretty much you're going
49:02
against the better, you know, the best of the in
49:04
the country. So but there had to be you know,
49:08
it was the hard work that you did prepare, preparing
49:11
for the camp. You know, once you you got there,
49:13
you had to have the confidence that you did everything
49:15
you could do to compete at that level. I mean,
49:18
really it it. You know, we we did go against
49:21
bigger guys in Division two, but maybe not at the
49:23
same size as some of the guys you saw in camp.
49:25
But it was all technique, it really was. I mean
49:27
that's what George hill ingrained into us. He said, it
49:30
doesn't matter how big this guy is when you hit
49:32
when if you butt him in the face, you're going
49:33
to stop his feet. But you got to do it
49:34
the right way.
49:35
Speaker 2: Mike, you talked about earlier. So you at one point
49:38
you were two fifty, you dropped down two thirty, did
49:40
you like. Obviously, being lighter is a good thing usually,
49:43
but some players feel like they're you know what, I'm
49:45
too light man. How did you feel like you played
49:48
when you were when.
49:48
Speaker 3: You lost all the Well, it was different because the
49:50
defense was different. You weren't taken again, you weren't head
49:53
you weren't butting guards face to face. Thirty four year
49:56
lined up right in front of them, and that's your gap.
49:57
You got to fill that hole in a fourth forty
50:00
six you had to tackle, but they but the way
50:03
they blocked you was totally different because you had all
50:05
those defensive linemen covering the linemen and you were supposed
50:08
to flow to the football, So different type of mentality
50:11
had to go, be able to go more sideline the
50:13
sideline instead of just button up. But again, it was
50:16
mostly technique and as long as you could keep your technique,
50:19
you could take somebody on like that. And it's just
50:21
working out in the weight room.
50:23
Speaker 4: Earlier, you mentioned the forty nine ers culture that you
50:25
were exposed to. Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni has established
50:30
quite a culture here in Philadelphia. Would have been your
50:32
impressions of how he's of how he's performed over the
50:35
last four seasons.
50:36
Speaker 3: I think he's grown as a head coach. I think
50:40
you know a lot of things what you see. And
50:42
I learned this from from good coaches that I that
50:44
coached me. They would always say to you, like Don Shulo,
50:47
they would never be your buddy because once they lowered
50:51
yourself to the once you lower yourself to their level
50:54
and you become their buddy, lose the locker room. And
50:57
you've seen it over and over again with coaches that
50:59
try to, you know, become the guy's buddy. And kind
51:02
of because someday Don Jule used to say, listen, some
51:05
day I'm gonna I'm gonna might have to cut you.
51:07
So they knew that, so they kind of kept that
51:10
separation and I think Nick has grown in that somewhat.
51:14
I think is you know, when you first get that job,
51:15
you have that passion and emotion is different than passion.
51:20
Emotions kind of get you yelling at the fans like
51:23
you saw early on. That passion is more of you
51:27
have a it's a control the you know you're passionate
51:30
because you The big thing with I say with head
51:32
coaches now is that you have to be an administrator
51:36
and a motivator administrator, meaning you got to keep everybody pointing,
51:40
You got to keep everybody focused, you know, and then
51:42
you've got to motivate them. And you can't do that
51:44
if you're down at their level. You got to have
51:46
that level to rise above that and say, hey, listen,
51:49
we're going in a direction. And if you Belichick was
51:51
the best at it, I mean, Belichick said, hey, we're
51:53
going to win and we're getting to the super Bowl.
51:55
You want to be a part of it, then here,
51:57
act like grow up, act like a man, and and
52:00
and play football, do your job and and we'll have
52:03
no problem.
52:04
Speaker 2: Like a guy you played with was quite the man,
52:06
and he's was. We know Seth Jordan pretty well. Seth
52:10
Jordner is one of these guys I think should be
52:12
in the Hall of Fame. What kind of player was he?
52:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a great player. I mean he when
52:16
he came in and it's actually funny with his rookie year,
52:20
he buddy cut him and then brought him back. I
52:23
forgot about it. And so we knew Seth had a talent.
52:27
I mean he just was he could move. He was
52:29
a big guy, but he could he could he could
52:31
put pressure on the quarterback, had an intensity about him,
52:34
played the game with passion. Was one of those guys
52:37
that stepped into a role and just and the forty
52:40
six really benefited him, and it just he just honed
52:44
his skills and worked hard. He was a good player.
52:46
Speaker 4: What was the dynamic like between you two and the communication.
52:49
Speaker 3: Well, it was always good because I mean, you you
52:52
have as a as a linebacker and core, you have
52:55
to kind of work together. I mean if you don't,
52:57
because you would kind of you know, keep it encourage
53:00
everybody and and Buddy dependent on the linebackers to be
53:03
the guys that would take control of the defense because
53:06
they were kind of central to all what was going on.
53:09
So you had to stay in that tight knit type
53:12
of relationship with guys. But again, at the end of
53:16
the day, it's an individual sport. Everybody says, a shreme
53:19
sport because at the end of the day, if you
53:20
don't play well and you still win the game. If
53:23
you don't play well, you're the guy getting cut. So
53:25
so it's it's one of those things. But definitely had
53:28
a you know, a bond between the linebackers.
53:32
Speaker 2: So Andrew, I know, one of the things you do
53:34
for us you're to check out daily, so and you
53:37
file a quick report about what you learn, what you're
53:40
hearing and all that. So today we had the press conference.
53:43
Every Tuesday in the NFL, a lot of coaches and
53:46
coordinators talk on Tuesdays. Anything interesting come out of them today?
53:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fic van Jail sort of offered up when asked
53:52
about Jay when Carter that he needs to round into
53:55
shape a little bit. And that's something that really struck
53:57
me watching him in training camp. To my eye, I
54:01
was like, ah, you know, he's still making plays, but
54:03
it doesn't quite look like he's in the shape that
54:05
he was last season. Now, he didn't play in the opener,
54:07
of course, and he doesn't play the full complement of
54:09
snaps in practice, but I thought that it was interesting
54:12
that he offered it up. And he played eighty percent
54:14
of the defensive snaps against the Chiefs, So naturally, the
54:18
more that he plays that that really I mean, and
54:20
he was making an impact in that game. So the
54:21
more that he plays and Vic didn't seem he seems
54:24
to think that it's gonna kind of work itself out soon.
54:27
Speaker 2: Mike. Last year's team, Andrew and I would go to
54:30
training camp, I have them somewherew what were they do?
54:33
They have fourteen wins? Thirteen wins last year fourteen fourteen
54:36
to three. I get full sometimes how to go to
54:39
these cap I usually go on a training camp tours.
54:40
Sometimes are right, sometimes I'm wrong. I thought they'd be good.
54:43
But it's so hard to tell you as a player,
54:46
when you would be a camp, did you kind of know, Okay,
54:48
I think we're gonna be the really good not so good?
54:50
Could you tell how good your teams were when you
54:52
were there?
54:52
Speaker 3: You could tell as you got went through camp. I
54:54
mean because a lot of guys, I mean back then
54:56
again different philosophy, there was no guaranteed contracts. I mean
54:59
there was, I should say there was minimal guaranteed contract
55:02
Your big guys were the guys that had guarantees. Everybody
55:05
else was proind of a one way contract, right, So
55:07
you're looking at making the team and so like I
55:10
can just tell you this. My first year when I
55:12
came in the league, there was thirty linebackers for seven positions,
55:15
thirty thirty, and so they would bring one hundred and
55:19
twenty five guys to camp and then they would whittle
55:23
it down and so you know, your main goal was, Okay,
55:26
I gotta I gotta make the team. I gotta stay healthy,
55:29
stay out of the tub, don't make mental mistakes. And
55:31
then as camp would go on and you'd start to
55:33
see the dynamics starting to come together. As they would
55:36
go through the cuts, you could see what Yeah, you
55:39
could tell watching film, you can tell if you're going
55:41
to beat that team or not.
55:42
Speaker 4: Now, what was the cutdown process? Like did they knock
55:45
on the door?
55:45
Speaker 6: Oh?
55:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, knock on the door. Yeah, And the first thing
55:48
in the morning they knock on the door. We call
55:49
them the turk. The turk would come and you they
55:53
get your playbook and once you knew that you were
55:55
you were cut Andrew.
55:57
Speaker 2: You know, it's incredible. Mike McCartney, who was Kirk Cousin's agent, Yeah,
56:00
he was the turk for the Eagles. He was the
56:02
pro director. Really, yeah, he was the one. It's so
56:05
crazy because he's now when an agent, big time. Mike's a
56:07
big dad's bib, the late Bill McCartney, the Colorado away coach.
56:11
Speaker 9: Yeah.
56:12
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it, like how you
56:13
go from that. And obviously it's empathy because I was
56:16
on the broth of pro and on the college side.
56:18
But were you ever around Mike when the player got
56:22
that knock on the door?
56:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, my roommate did, so we were a roommate. He came,
56:27
we came out of East Strausburg. He was a wide receiver.
56:29
He was he was a free agent as well. They
56:31
signed him because we had a real dynamic offense. We
56:33
scored a lot of points and he had a lot
56:35
of catches. A good player, but didn't have that speed,
56:39
you know. Yeah, so when he the Turk game, we
56:42
knew he always knew when it was coming. So you
56:44
never slept, and so you're not going to do I said,
56:47
I said, Scott, you got to get it. So Scott
56:49
when he said, Scott gets your playbook, and I was,
56:51
I had to feel bad, but I was like it
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wasn't big.
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Speaker 4: Exactly what but you say you never slept, So it
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would happen at any hour.
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Speaker 3: Well, they would come first thing in the morning. You'd
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hear him come down the hole. You hear the knocks
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come down the hole, right And I had the last
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room on the right hand side, so it was like
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I had to listen all the way down the hall
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and wait for the knock. But that's tough.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a tough deal, guys. All right, So
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this is the Pro Football Report and WBCB it's Adam
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Kaplan Andrew Checho. Next week we'll be in Marlton, New Jersey,
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Chicken Peetz. Tonight we're in Warrington, and Andrew be you
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and Jeff Most sure that's right, looking forward to that. Yeah,
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so mine likewise, Uh so we're here every Tuesday at
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the Chickies and Peats usually Warrington. We'll be at Roosevelt Boulevard.
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Later we were at Parks you know, last week. Every
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Tuesday six to seven pm. You could also listen to
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WBCB sports dot com and next week it'll be an
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hour show of course, and we will review that game. Andrew.
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I know you know we're not gonna pick who's gonna
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win or lose so Friday, Mike, but I'll tell you what.
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I think it's gonna be a great game on Sunday
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against the Rams. What are your thoughts?
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Speaker 3: I would think the way the Eagles are playing right now,
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and they they again, they seem very disciplined, they seem
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to be you know, they have the confidence, they they
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know the guys that the playmakers are stepping up, they're
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making plays, and even the guys, like you had said,
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the guys that are filling in are actually coming in
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and contributing. So that's a hard dynamic once you get
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that that that confidence. But again it's it's all depending
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on what team comes out of the locker room.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: It's there's a lot going on in these guys' lives
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that take the distractions and the things, and that was
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kind of managing the off field stuff is important as well.
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Speaker 2: So all right, Mike reraicheback, thank you so much. Andrew
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de Check, thank you so much. We'll see you next week.
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You're listening to w BCB and the Pro Football Report.