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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for Saturday,
- 0:05April nineteenth of twenty twenty five. Your reader is Alice Stainer,
- 0:12with the reminder that RADIOI is an organization for those
- 0:17blind or unable to hold and read printed material easily,
- 0:22and I will start with the front page to the
- 0:25Washington Post. On the left hand side, it says early
- 0:31deal takes shape for a stadium at RFK site. Commanders
- 0:37the DC team in talks Well three point two billion
- 0:42dollar public private project by Megan Flynn and Sam Fortier.
- 0:50In the center above the fold is a picture of
- 0:55worshipers of varied denominations in Durban, Seth, Africa carrying a
- 1:02cross during a Good Friday procession commemorating Jesus's crucifixion by
- 1:07the Romans. In Paris. Four months after it's long awaited reopening,
- 1:14Notre Dame Cathedral welcome devotees and tourist like on Friday
- 1:20for an emotional ceremony ahead of Easter Sunday. In the
- 1:25picture in the forefront, there is a black cross being
- 1:29held above by four women. In the front, two of
- 1:35them are in habits, or at least in the head
- 1:39of the habits. One of them holding the cross is
- 1:43and a purple frock with a white shawl around her shoulders.
- 1:51Next to her is a woman in red and the
- 1:54two of them are Four of them are in the forefront.
- 1:58To the right of that picture. Senator recounts deportee meeting
- 2:04Marilyn manned is traumatized, moved out of notorious prison. Van
- 2:10Holland says about Sylvia Forrester Foster Frowe, Sidoric Meyer, and
- 2:17Megan Vasquez. Below the pictures of the ladies carrying the
- 2:22cross Germany on the left side, some migrants reverse their
- 2:27false dead status after doze effort. They go to Social
- 2:32Security to prove they're alive. Hamma Natson, Liserene and Meryl
- 2:38Cornfield like this one. Into the right of that Trumps
- 2:43had to move on if no Ukraine. Ukraine deals soon.
- 2:49Rubio's remarks in Paris reflect President's growing frustration. Adam Taylor,
- 2:55Robin Dixon, and Alan Francis, and then below the fold
- 3:00on the far left, White House calls lab leak true
- 3:06COVID origin. Trump administration embraces the disputed theory on new
- 3:12website by Dan Diamond and Lauren Webber. And then the
- 3:17last article on the right hand side a civil rights
- 3:21marker on DOJ's chopping block. Fight ensues after Alabama museum
- 3:28commemorating the nineteen sixty one Freedom Rides is targeted for
- 3:33sale by Milly Hennessy Fisk, who's at Montgomery. And then
- 3:39there is a picture of back when in nineteen sixty
- 3:44four of Montgomery's greyhound bus depot where mob attacks segregation
- 3:51protesters is now the Freedom Rides Museum. Senator Van Holland
- 3:59describes El Savador visit with wrongly deported man. Senator Chris
- 4:05van Holland said, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man wrongly
- 4:10deported to El Salvador, has experienced trauma, he said, He's
- 4:16said every day. And there is a picture of Senator
- 4:20Chris van Holland, Democrat of Maryland, during a news conference
- 4:25Friday at Washington Dulles International Airport in Virginia, after returning
- 4:30from El Savador, where he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia,
- 4:34a wrongly deported Maryland man. Behind him are Caesar and
- 4:39Cecilia Abrego, Garcia's brother and mother. She is in blue
- 4:45with a button and a butterfly on it. Cecilia is
- 4:49and Caesar is in a pink shirt with a huge
- 4:55picture of his brother on the front. Also in the
- 4:58group are people signs, one being no human being is
- 5:03illegal except Trump and his gang. Another says bring home
- 5:08Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and there are people in T shirts
- 5:14all behind and around. Senator Chris van Holland. The article
- 5:20is Sylvia Foster Froud, Sidric Maya, and Megan Vusquez. Kilmar
- 5:26Abrego Garcia, a father and husband who was mistakenly deported
- 5:31to a mega prison in Al Savadoor, was transferred to
- 5:35a different facility nine days ago after spending weeks in
- 5:39a cell with twenty five other migrants, Senator Chris van Holland,
- 5:44Democratic Maryland said on Friday. Ben Holland spoke from Washington
- 5:49Dulles International Airport upon his return from Al Savadol, where
- 5:54he was able to meet with Abrego Garcia on Thursday
- 5:57after being rebuffed by the Salvador government multiple times. The
- 6:02senators said the meeting at his hotel was the first
- 6:05time Abrego Garcia, a long time Maryland resident whose wife
- 6:10and children are US citizens, had spoken to anyone from
- 6:14the outside world since being deported. He's experienced trauma, he said,
- 6:21he's sad every day, Van Holland said, but I think
- 6:25this persistence resulted in having this chance to meet with him,
- 6:30to begin to get a little bit of his story,
- 6:32and I think it is the first step to ultimately
- 6:35bringing him home as the Constitution requires. The Supreme Court
- 6:40has ordered the Trump administration to facilitate the return of
- 6:45Abrego Garcia twenty nine to the United States after the
- 6:50government acknowledged in court filings that the twenty nineteen court
- 6:53order for bade his removal to El Savador, but Trump
- 6:58administration officials have not taken the necessary steps to comply
- 7:02with the order, a lower court judge ruled this week.
- 7:07The president and his top of migration enforcement officials have
- 7:13repeatedly accused of Brago Garcia of gang membership, even though
- 7:18his family denies it and his attorneys say he has
- 7:21never been churched with the crime and have said he
- 7:23does not belong back in the United States. In a
- 7:28strongly worded decision this week, the US Court of Appeals
- 7:31for the Fourth Circuit upheld Judge PAULA. Or that the
- 7:38government facilitate Abrego Garcia's return. The decision said the Trump
- 7:44administration's contention that it did not need to approach actively
- 7:49enable Abrego Garcia's release, reduce the rule of law to lawlessness,
- 7:55and tarnish the very values for which Americans have diverse
- 7:59views and persuasions have always stood. The sheet Metal Apprentice
- 8:05has become the best known of the nearly one hundred
- 8:08migrants who have been sent to El Salvador's terrorism confinement center,
- 8:14a megaprison, referred to by its Spanish initials ce COT SEACUT.
- 8:22The US Almerment has offered to pay Al Savador fifteen
- 8:27million dollars to hold its migrants in the salvador in prison,
- 8:32van Holland said Friday. So far four million dollars has
- 8:37been spent. Van Holland said he directly asked Salvador and
- 8:41Vice President Felix Ulloa during his visit my Abrago Garcia
- 8:47was sent to SEACUT whether Abrego Garcia had violated any
- 8:51laws in El Salvador and whether there's any proof he
- 8:54had committed a crime, the senators said. Aloo responded, Oh,
- 9:00he's here because the Trump administration is paying us to
- 9:04keep him here. After his first attempts to visit a
- 9:08Lego Garcia were rebuffed. I asked if I returned the
- 9:12following week, whether I could meet with him. The answer
- 9:16was no. Van Halend said, I asked if I could
- 9:20call him on the phone. The answer was no. I
- 9:23asked if his wife, Jennifer could call him on the phone.
- 9:27The answer was no. No to his wife, no to
- 9:30his mother, no to his lawyers. On Thursday, Van Holland
- 9:35said he decided to give it another tribe by driving
- 9:39directly to Seacott, accompanied by a lawyer. About three karometers
- 9:44outside of Seacott, we were pulled over by soldiers. I
- 9:48was told that they had order us not to allow
- 9:50us to go to any further. When I asked him
- 9:53if they knew anything about the condition of mister Garcia,
- 9:56they said no. He added, as he was preparing to
- 10:00fly back to Washington later Thursday, all of a sudden,
- 10:04I got worried that I would be allowed to meet
- 10:06with Kimla Abrego Garcia. They met for about an hour
- 10:11in Van Holland's hotel. The Senator said. Ben Holland told
- 10:15Abrego Garcia that his situation had been ruled on by
- 10:19multiple Bevy courts and that his story had become a
- 10:22national symbol for the human toll of the Trump administration's
- 10:25immigration crackdown. Abrego Garcia was traumatized by being at Sea
- 10:32Cot and fearful of many of the prisoners in other
- 10:35cell blocks who called out to him and taunted him
- 10:38in various ways. Ben Holland said, I told him his
- 10:43brothers and sisters in his unit the Sheep Metal Workers'
- 10:46Union were fighting to bring him home. That brought a
- 10:50smile to his face. I told him that millions of
- 10:52Americans understand what is happening to him is a threat
- 10:56to their own constitutional rights, ben Holland said. Abrego Garcia
- 11:03told Van Holland that the new detention facility where he
- 11:06had been brought had better conditions than Seacott, the senator continued.
- 11:12The senator discussed what he called Margharita Gate, a reference
- 11:17to a social media post by Salvadorean President Naim Rue
- 11:22Kelly showing two glasses garnished with cherries and rimmed with
- 11:26salt of vinegar or sugar on the table where Ron
- 11:30Holland and Abrego Garcia set. Mukeli's post said the two
- 11:34men were sipping Margarita's. President Donald Trump joined in on
- 11:39the jab, as did other Republicans. Van Holland said the
- 11:44glasses were part of a setup added to the table
- 11:47in addition to water glasses, in an effort to distort
- 11:50what was happening. As we were talking, one of the
- 11:54government's people came over and deposited two other glasses on
- 11:58the table. Let me just be very clear. Neither of
- 12:01us touched the drinks that were in front of us,
- 12:05ben Holland said. The glass in front of Abrego Garcia
- 12:09held less liquid, bean Holland added, making it appear as
- 12:13if the deported man had taken a drink. He also
- 12:16said the Salvadorian government initially wanted to hold the meeting
- 12:20by the side of the hotel swimming pool. This is
- 12:23the links that President Yukali will go to deceive people
- 12:27about what's going on, he said. Ben Holland said there
- 12:33are things that Americans can do to hold the Salvadorian
- 12:36government accountable, including choosing not to visit the country for tourism.
- 12:41He said that states could also decide not to invest
- 12:45pension funds in companies in El Salvador. He said Democrats
- 12:50in Congress will examine how the government accounts for the
- 12:53fifteen million it is purportedly spending to host deportees in
- 12:58Salvadoran prisons. You can't be sure we're going to be
- 13:02looking for where it is because that wasn't authorized in
- 13:06previous appropriations. I won't support the use of one penny
- 13:11of taxpayer dollars to keep a Brago Garcia illegally detained
- 13:15in El Savador, van Holland said. The Senator said he
- 13:20talked to the Barrego Garcia about his family after the
- 13:23meeting ended. Ben Holland called a Brago Garcia's wife, Jenni Vasquasoora,
- 13:29a US citizen. I told her what he said to me,
- 13:33which was first and foremost, that he missed her and
- 13:36his family. And as he said that, you could see
- 13:39a tear come down his cheek, van Holland said at
- 13:42the news conference, where he was joined by Vasquezsora, along
- 13:46with the Brago Garcia's brother and other family members and
- 13:49immigrant advocates. In an interview on ABC's Good Morning America
- 13:54on Friday, Vasquais said it was very overwhelming to see
- 13:59the images of her husband at the table with her home. Senator.
- 14:04It's been thirty seven days since March twelfth, since my
- 14:08husband was abducted. It's been in an emotional, emotional roller coaster, honestly,
- 14:14but just knowing right now that he's alive, our faith
- 14:17has grown and I keep him in my prayers to
- 14:20bring him back home, she said in the interview. Democratic
- 14:24lawmakers publicly thanked Van Holland on Friday for securing the
- 14:28meeting of the Brago Garcia, including Senators Cory Booka of
- 14:33New Jersey and Amy Klobachar of Minnesota, but several Republicans
- 14:38took issue with the trip. Senator John Cornan of Texas
- 14:42called it a political stud and Senator Tim Sheehy of
- 14:46Montana said a Brago Garcia situation should be part of
- 14:50Republicans midterm messaging. Remember that the Democrats will bend over
- 14:56backward for illegal immigrants while they sell you out, he said.
- 15:02Immigrants proved they are alive, forcing Social Security to undue
- 15:08death label. The immigrants who are more than six thousand
- 15:12who were falsely added to a death's database by DHS
- 15:17and the US Doege Service in a bid to pressure
- 15:21them to leave the United States. Hannah Nattison Lisaine and
- 15:27Meryll Cornfield of an office immigrants falsely labeled dead by
- 15:34the Social Security Administration as showing up at field offices
- 15:38with documents proving they are alive, leading staff to reinstate
- 15:42nearly three dozen people over the past week. According to
- 15:46records obtained by The Washington Post. The immigrants who have
- 15:50requested a reversal and been reinstated in Social Security databases
- 15:56include a Haitian, asylumn seker and a child of The
- 15:59record show some immigrants have shown up with driver's licenses
- 16:04and work permits to plude the I legitimacy. The record
- 16:07show others have arrived bearing letters of notification that they
- 16:11received from their states declaring them dead. The reversals come
- 16:16after the Department of Homeland Security, in the Elon Musk's
- 16:19US DOOS service, pushed to incorrectly label more than sixty
- 16:24one hundred, mostly Latino immigrants as dead in a bid
- 16:29depressured them to leave the country. The administration overrode the
- 16:33objections of senior Social Security staff to label the immigrants
- 16:38as dead, a move that current and former top officials
- 16:42at the agency ward was illegal because it violates privacy
- 16:46laws and invows the purposeful falsification of government records. Social
- 16:54Security did not immediately respond to a request for comment Friday,
- 16:59asked about the rest of the White House said the
- 17:01six thousand immigrants were never really listed as dead. This
- 17:07reporting is false. These illegal aliens were never classified as dead.
- 17:13White House spokeswoman Leahs Hudson said in a statement, the
- 17:18Death Foul Master of the Death Master Foul was renamed
- 17:23the Ineligible Master Foul prior to their names being transferred.
- 17:28Once who AS Customs and Voter Protection terminated their people,
- 17:34these individuals were no longer eligible for benefits, and Social
- 17:38Security Administration quickly took action to protect the benefits of
- 17:42hard working American citizens. That statement countradicts statements last week
- 17:48from a White House official and de senior Social Security official,
- 17:52both of whom explicitly confirmed that the immigrants have been
- 17:55labeled dead in hopes of spurring their departures from the
- 17:58United States. As of Friday, the database is still named
- 18:03the Death Master File in Social Securities internal systems per
- 18:08records obtained by the Post and referred to by the
- 18:11same name on the agency's public website. Getting added to
- 18:16that database, which contains more than eighty five million records
- 18:21of death dating to nineteen thirty six, has potentially dire consequences.
- 18:27Social Security shares its death data with other government agencies, employers, banks,
- 18:33and landlords, all of whom rely on it to check
- 18:36the status of employees, residents, clients, and others. Any when
- 18:41falsely placed in the file will struggled to earn money
- 18:44or find a place to live. Entering the immigrants into
- 18:47the database will still have the same effect, causing U
- 18:51S government companies, and banks to treat them as dead
- 18:54no matter what the White House calls about entry. Current
- 18:58and former Social Securities officials said the request to label
- 19:03immigrants dead came from the very top of Homeland Security.
- 19:07The post previously requoted. Secretary Christy L. Nom signed two
- 19:12memorandums of agreement this month with acting as Social Security
- 19:16Commissioner Leyland Dudik, authorizing and facilitating the placement of the
- 19:22immigrants in the Death Master file. The White House has
- 19:26previously said that the immigrants being targeted are people who
- 19:30have bonafide Social Security numbers but lost their legal status
- 19:34in the US, including those who entered under one of
- 19:37President Joe Biden's temporary work programs that had been shuttered
- 19:41by the Trump administration. A White House official also said,
- 19:46without providing evidence, that the immigrants moved into the death
- 19:50database will all have ties to terrorist activity or criminal records.
- 19:56Records obtained by the Posts showed that the immigrants listed
- 19:59as dead include a thirteen year old, a fourteen year old,
- 20:03two sixteen year olds, and four seventeen year olds, as
- 20:07well as people in their seventies and one eighty three
- 20:10year old. Agency staff later checked some of the youngest
- 20:14individuals against the data the agency uses to research criminal
- 20:19history and could find no evidence of crimes or law
- 20:22enforcement interactions, the Post reported. The Post reported the records
- 20:29showed that six one hundred and sixty one people were
- 20:32added to the found in early April at the request
- 20:35of DHS, along with an additional one hundred and two
- 20:39A few days later, as a Friday, Social Security staff
- 20:43had restored thirty one of these people to the roles,
- 20:47declaring them living again. The records showed the tactic of
- 20:52using Social Securities Death Database as a deportation tool comes
- 20:57as the Trump administration is escalating its deeps quotation efforts
- 21:01across the government. The Department of Home and Security reached
- 21:05an agreement this month with the Internal Revenue Service to
- 21:09receive the tax data it maintains for undocumented immigrants, and
- 21:14The Post reported this week that the Trump administration is
- 21:17seeking to use sensitive Medicare claims data to find immigrants'
- 21:22home addresses. Cecilia Munoz, who served as a domestic policy
- 21:30advisor to the Obama administration, said many asylum seekers, in
- 21:34particular with a difficulty of returning home after being declared dead.
- 21:41In the case of people who are here on humanitarian visas,
- 21:45one hundred percent of them were sponsored and one hundred
- 21:48percent of them were leaving a situation like the war
- 21:51in Ukraine or a dire situation in Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela, Nicaragua.
- 21:57It's not particularly easy for them to go back in
- 22:00the way that the administration is trying to force them
- 22:03to do. Unnos said recent reports of immigration officials detaining
- 22:10a Green cardholder who had gone to an ice Field
- 22:13center for a naturalization test, as well as others in
- 22:17public settings, could also discourage people from going to government
- 22:21offices for fear of being detained, she warned. Tanya Broda,
- 22:27Senior Council for Health and Economic Justice Policy as the
- 22:30left leaning National Immigration Law Center, said that being declared
- 22:35dead by the Social Security Administration can have devastated consequences
- 22:40for anyone those swept up in this cash, added to
- 22:44the death folder, or already under greater government scrutiny. Roder said,
- 22:50it's always a good idea for people to know what
- 22:53their rights are, to have a phone number for their
- 22:55attorney attorney to be able to remain silent. I think
- 23:00that correcting a social security record should not entail a
- 23:04new risk for people who were already known to the government.
- 23:08In another action targeting undocumented immigrants, the masculined leaders of
- 23:13Social Securities Information Technology Office on Friday asked various technology
- 23:18teams that the Agency for Information needed to implement or
- 23:22propose new alert in social security databases that would tag
- 23:26undocumented immigrants. The system already flags those with social security
- 23:32numbers who have been convicted of domestic violence or fraud,
- 23:35but the agency has never tried to track people in
- 23:38the US illegally, since only people in the country legally
- 23:42should be eligible for social security numbers. The alert would
- 23:47be placed in the large database known as the Numitant,
- 23:52which contains the names, dates of births, and social security
- 23:56numbers of nearly every American and legal immigrant, whether or
- 24:00not they receive benefits from the Social Security and Administration
- 24:05Records so A meassage sent to the agency's technology office
- 24:10Friday and obtained by the Post said the Chief Information
- 24:14Officer is seeking a solution to address situations where sssay
- 24:20is made away of non citizens having their work authorized
- 24:23emigration status revoked, and or are presented to US as
- 24:28a national security concern to ensure they do not get
- 24:33s s in cards, do not receive benefits, and are
- 24:36flagged to external uses in verifications. It was unclear who
- 24:42would determine which people count as undocumented. Any One in
- 24:46the US legally is issued a Social Security number, even
- 24:49if they are incarcerated. If some one is placed in
- 24:53jail or is a fugitive felon with an outstanding warrant
- 24:56for the arrest, their benefits are suspended to win reinstatement
- 25:01among the living. The immigrants who presented themselves at field
- 25:05officers over the past week would have been asked for
- 25:08at least one original piece of evidence proving their identity.
- 25:12According to instructions listed on the Social Security website, they
- 25:16could have offered their passport, driver's license, employee ID card,
- 25:20a health insurance card, among other items. Once the record
- 25:25was corrected the Field Office should have given the immigrants
- 25:28a letter saying they could deliver the banks, mortgage companies,
- 25:31landlords and employers showing that their death report was an error.
- 25:36But the immigrants must proactively go to all these entities
- 25:39to prove their existence. Field Office staff members across the
- 25:44country were never notified that thousands of emigrants being added
- 25:48to the death data base, said Jessica Lovepoint, president of
- 25:51Council two twenty of the American Federation of Government Employees,
- 25:56which represents Field Office and other customer service staff. These
- 26:01people are surely paying payroll taxes out of their checks.
- 26:05Where's the humanity in declaring them dead? LaPoint said. She
- 26:10said is the duty of every agency employee to reinstate
- 26:14any living people runously declared dead. We don't want to
- 26:20get pick winners and losers of who we serve. One
- 26:24former senior security official social security official who worked closely
- 26:29with the Death Master Foul, said he expects that the
- 26:33resurrections will not stop at three dozen people. They have
- 26:37to be more coming, the formal official said. But even
- 26:41if more immigrants realize that the agency is listed them
- 26:44is dead, they may struggle for months to have their
- 26:46social security numbers reinstated. Several experts said that's because a
- 26:51policy started in January, says field offices can serve people
- 26:56only by appointment. Meanwhile, the wait time for an appointment
- 27:00has dretched to months and the whole time on the
- 27:04phone to three hours amid a wave of Musk funding
- 27:08cuts and firings. The person might tell the security guard
- 27:13at the field office that they were wrongly declared dead
- 27:16and asked to come in, said Rick Orsinski, a retired
- 27:21social security district manager from Cleveland. But maybe they are
- 27:25too timid to say they need to be seen with
- 27:28that unemployment. This could take months to result. Meanwhile, the
- 27:32collateral damage is really bad. Trump ready to move on
- 27:38from Ukraine peace talks if no progress, Rubio says. Rubio's
- 27:43remarks appear to reflect the President's frustration with the difficulty
- 27:47of achieving peace in Ukraine after Russia's twenty twenty two
- 27:51full scale invasion. There is a picture of Secretary of
- 27:56State Marco Rubio arriving at France's Foreign minister st for
- 28:00meeting with his French counterpart in Paris on Thursday. Adam Taylor,
- 28:06Robin Dixon, and Ellen Francis to Paris. President Donald Trump
- 28:12is ready to move on from peace talks between Ukraine
- 28:16and Russia if there is no progress within days, Secretary
- 28:21of State Marco Rubio told reporters Friday. Rubio's remarks reflected
- 28:26how the US sponsored peace efforts have stalled and the
- 28:29President's frustration with the talks has grown. Though Trump said
- 28:34during his campaign that he could end the war in
- 28:36Ukraine within twenty four hours, he is now almost three
- 28:40months into his second term. The administration's main achievement to date,
- 28:45an agreement by both sides to cause strikes on energy
- 28:48infrastructure for thirty days, is closed to its end and
- 28:52has not stopped deadly attacks in Ukraine. The President has
- 28:57spent eighty seven days at the highest level of this
- 29:00government repeatedly taking efforts to bring this war to an end.
- 29:04We are now reaching a point where we need to
- 29:07decide and determine whether this is even possible or not,
- 29:11which is why we're engaging both sides, said Rubio. If
- 29:16the war cannot be ended soon, I think the President's
- 29:19probably at a point where he's going to say, well,
- 29:22we're done. We're not going to continue with this endeavor
- 29:25for weeks and months on end, Rubio said the top
- 29:30US diplomat did not specify on what to move on
- 29:34would mean for continued US military support for Ukraine or
- 29:38sanctions on Russia. The State Department officials, speaking on the
- 29:42condition of anonymity to discuss private negotiations, said Rubio had
- 29:47made clear during discussions in Paris that walking away from
- 29:51negotiations does not mean walking away from existing sanctions on Russia,
- 29:58but if efforts to stop the fighting are abandoned, it
- 30:00could mark a win for the Kremlin, which currently has
- 30:03the momentum on the battlefield. Soon after Ribio's comments, Kremlin
- 30:08spokesman Dmitri Peskov responded by saying progress had been made,
- 30:14citing the thirty day energy ceasefire, which he then said
- 30:17had expired. Rubio spoke as he wrapped up a twenty
- 30:21four hour trip to Paris, where French President Emmanuel macrom
- 30:26had convened American, Ukrainian and other European officials in an
- 30:31effort to recent to the negotiations in Europe. The Paris
- 30:36talks took place Thursday, after growing anxiety in European capitals
- 30:41about the USLA negotiations that began under Trump. European leaders
- 30:46are weary of US moves toward rumatized with Russia, warning
- 30:50against concessions emboldened to Krimlin if nothing is secured in return.
- 30:55Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff recently traveled to Saint Petersburg to
- 31:00meet with President Vladimir Putin for the third time since
- 31:03the started Trump's second term. Ukrainian President Volodimir Zulensky told
- 31:09reporters Thursday, as Witkoff attended meetings in Paris, that he
- 31:14thought the US negotiator had consciously or unconsciously taken on
- 31:19Russian narratives such as claims to five occuparied territories in
- 31:24eastern Ukraine that could be formalized in a peace deal.
- 31:29After the meetings in Paris, Macrol labeled the new format
- 31:32of success and said talks would continue in London next week.
- 31:37An at least Saint Palace official, speaking on the condition
- 31:41of anonymity under guidelines from the French presidency, said Macron's
- 31:46talks with Rubio and Whitcock focused on the issue of
- 31:49a ceasefire and security guarantees. The meeting underscored Ukrainian and
- 31:54European support for President Trump's objective of rapidly putting an
- 31:59end to the wall, the official said, adding that there
- 32:03was agreement on the need for a full ceasefire as
- 32:06soon as possible. US officials declined their view for a
- 32:11deal during the talks, including a full ceasefire and a
- 32:14frozen front line that would leave Ukrainian territory seized by
- 32:19Russia in Moscow's hands. According to two people familiar with
- 32:23the discussions, the US vision involves keeping Keys ambitions for
- 32:28NATO membership off the negotiating table and holding out the
- 32:32prospect of easing sanctions on Russia if there is a
- 32:36lasting settlement, they said. The Elisi officials said that while
- 32:41the issue of sanctions was discussed, everyone understands the need
- 32:46for US to use all the instruments at their disposal,
- 32:49particularly sanctions, to influence the Russian position. The Trump administration
- 32:56appeared ready to use both incentives and Prussia on Russia,
- 33:01the official added. Rubio told reports Friday that he appreciated
- 33:06the efforts of European allies. He did not say whether
- 33:09he would go to London through another although another envoy,
- 33:13retired Army Lieutenant General Keith Hllogg, said Friday that he
- 33:17expected to attend. Writkoff, who is planning to travel to
- 33:21Rome on Saturday for negotiations with Iran on its nuclear program,
- 33:26would also be at the talks in London, According to
- 33:29the at least the official, Hopefully we'll have another meeting
- 33:33early next week at some point where we will have
- 33:37some more definitive answers about how close we are to
- 33:40actually making progress. But this isn't going to go on forever,
- 33:45Rubio said. During a visit to Rome on Friday, Vice
- 33:50President J. D. Vance said, we do feel optimistic that
- 33:54we can hopefully bring this brutal war, this very brutal war,
- 33:58to a close. In the Oval Office on Friday, afternoon
- 34:02Rubio's comments, Trump said there was no specific number of
- 34:07days he wanted for a deal to be reached, but
- 34:10he wanted it done quickly. The United States had a
- 34:14good chance to end the violence and Ukraine, Trump said,
- 34:18but if for some reason one of the two parties
- 34:20makes it very difficult, we're just going to say you're foolish,
- 34:24you're foolish, you're horrible people, and we're just going to
- 34:28take a pass. Trump told reporters Thursday that he also
- 34:32expects to sign a deal with Ukraine to grant the
- 34:35United States access to its critical mineral resources. Ukrainian First
- 34:40Deputy Prime Minister Yulia Sarandinko later wrote on social media
- 34:45that Washington and Kiev had signed a memorandum of intent
- 34:49that would pave the way for the deal. Trump added
- 34:52that he did not blame Zelensky for the wall, which
- 34:55began in full after Russia invaded in February twenty twenty two,
- 34:59but that he he was not a big fan of
- 35:02the Ukrainian leader. I wouldn't say he's done the greatest job.
- 35:07We want to get it done. We'll see if we can.
- 35:11Trump said of efforts to secure a ceasefire. Zelensky agreed
- 35:15to a US proposed seats fire more than a month ago. Putin, however,
- 35:20demurred and said it was a complicated matter. Since Putin
- 35:24rejected the US proposal last month, top Moscow officials have
- 35:28attempted to shift the blame to the Ukrainian government and
- 35:31European leaders, claiming that they are desperate to keep fighting.
- 35:35Before peace negotiations began, Russia insisted that European leaders should
- 35:41be excluded from talks, claiming they had no relevant part
- 35:44to play. European leaders have counted that Putin is slow
- 35:48rolling negotiations as they seek a more direct role in
- 35:52talks that they hoped could reshape the continent security. Moscow
- 35:57has rejected French British plans for a force that could
- 36:00help a post war Ukraine deter future Russian attacks. The
- 36:04Kremlin last month also blocked a US facilitated deal for
- 36:08a ceasefire in the Black Sea unless sanctions on a
- 36:12bank and several financial institutions were lifted, a precondition that
- 36:18European leaders have opposed. Peskov and Russian foreign ministry officials
- 36:24have ramped up their rhetoric against European leaders in recent weeks,
- 36:28framing Europe's pledges to continue supporting Ukraine as blocking progress
- 36:33on peace. On Thursday, Peskov said the negotiations were with
- 36:39Karp were proceeding with difficulty, insisting that the situation was
- 36:44so complex that there could be no chance of peace
- 36:47soon as he attacked European leaders as hawks of ball,
- 36:52but after Ribo one Friday that the Trump administration would
- 36:56move on if it did not get a deal soon,
- 36:58Peskov brought up the moratorium on strikes on energy infrastructure,
- 37:04which each side has accused the other of reaching. We
- 37:08believe that progress can already be recognized, said Peskov, adding
- 37:13that while the moratorium had expired, Putin had yet to
- 37:16issue orders about what comes next. The Kremlin has continued
- 37:21to push maxim minimalists. A maximalist conditions for a ceasefire
- 37:27and a broader deal, including the halt of Western military
- 37:31aid to Ukraine and drastic reduction of its army, terms
- 37:36that would be unacceptable to Kiev. No such conditions would
- 37:40apply to Russia, which give it a majority military advantage
- 37:45if fighting resumed. Freedom writers faced a mob at this
- 37:51bus station. Doge wanted to sell it. This landmark site
- 37:56in Montgomery, Alabama was deemed not to government operations, and
- 38:02other stops in the US civil rights history could also
- 38:05be at risk. And there is a picture of the
- 38:09bus station in Montgomery, Alabama where young civil rights activists
- 38:13were brutally attacked in May of nineteen sixty one, which
- 38:18now houses the Freedom Riders Museum, And there are pictures
- 38:23of those young people who died during that the situation,
- 38:29and there are people of pictures of all colors on
- 38:32that wall. The very end says Freedom Rids Museum and
- 38:37the Greyhound bus station sand in large above the front door, Montgomery,
- 38:44Alabama by Molly Hennessy Fisk. The bus station's colored entrance
- 38:51has vanished, the door bricked over, scattered holes where a
- 38:55sign once hung. Those standing just inches away on the
- 38:59side the students might not have even noticed it had
- 39:03the museum director not highlighted the ghost of segregation. The building,
- 39:09he explained, was telling them a story. Some clues were
- 39:13more obvious. On a wall beside the high schools, dozens
- 39:17of mugshots stared back. Those were freedom writers. Alexander Strickland
- 39:23told the group. Most of those who came here in
- 39:26nineteen sixty one were only a few years older than
- 39:28the teens. Yet they drafted their wills before boarding buses
- 39:33heading south to protest segregated seating and services in an
- 39:39interstate travel They were attacked by a mob of hundreds
- 39:44of people right where were standing. They were willing to die.
- 39:48Your standing where history happened, Strickland said, as the students
- 39:52listened closely imagining the scene. This was the lesson that
- 39:57their teacher had brought them here to learn and that
- 40:00she feared could soon be lost. Lisa Harmon had read
- 40:05about the Trump administration's plan to sell the FOMA dust depot,
- 40:09which the museum leases from the federal government. Harmon teaches
- 40:13a p amer African American history at John Adams College
- 40:17and Korea Academy, a public school on Cleveland's East Side.
- 40:22She had become alarmed in recent years as lawmakers across
- 40:26the country attacked the curriculum for being critical race theory,
- 40:31and even banded in Florida a closing a national landmark.
- 40:36Whye would they target this place as government waste? She
- 40:40asks Strickland once he'd finished the tour. This is American
- 40:45history and Alexander Strickland. There is a picture of him
- 40:49outside the Freedom. Rhyan's Museum market a markers a men
- 40:56us doze service driven cuts by the General Services Administration,
- 41:01the agency that manages federal property. Officials included the building
- 41:05on a list of hundreds they planned to sell because
- 41:08they were not core to government operations. Selling ensures the
- 41:14taxpayer's dollars are no longer spent on vacant or underutilized
- 41:18federal spaces. Disposing of these assets helps eliminate costly maintenance
- 41:24and allows us to reinvest in high quality work environments
- 41:28that support agency Missions officials wrote. When US Representatives Terry A.
- 41:35Seal and Samari Figures saw the GSA list, both Alexander
- 41:41Alabama Democrats immediately demanded that the station be spared. The site,
- 41:46which houses the Freedom Rights Museum, is an essential historic
- 41:51landmark that not only honors the legacy of the freedom writers,
- 41:55but also educates the public of our nation's struggle for
- 41:59equality and justice. Days ahead of the march in nearby Selma,
- 42:03marking the sixtieth anniversary of the protests known as Bloody Sunday,
- 42:08the lawmakers joined Host Minority Leader Hikim Jeffries, Democrat of
- 42:13New York, outside the museums. They blasted the Trump administration
- 42:18to trying to sell the site and vowed to protect
- 42:20it and the rest of the stops on the civil
- 42:23rights trail that connects more than a dozen states. Our
- 42:28civil rights history is not for sale. The progress of
- 42:31the civil rights movement is not for sale. The struggle
- 42:35that the civil rights movement represented to bring about a
- 42:38more perfect union is not for sale. Jeffries said. They
- 42:43enlisted sen A Decatie Boyd Britt of Alabama, a rising
- 42:47star in the Republican Party and an ally of President
- 42:51Donald Trump, who also had attended the SELMA commemoration on
- 42:55March ninth. Shia knows that the museum was no longer
- 42:58slated for closure. This has been resolved, she said in
- 43:03a statement. The Montgomery Bus Station and Freedom Rights Museum
- 43:07will not be onjsa's core list. That was scance reassurance
- 43:12for historians, advocates, and others pushing back on Trump's directives
- 43:16about how the country's past should be presented and how
- 43:20its diversity should be discussed with the goal of eliminating
- 43:25divisive narratives. In the past few months, administration officials edited
- 43:31National Park Service websites to minimize events and individuals of
- 43:35closing slavery and black merit who struggle for civil rights.
- 43:40The military removed mention of the famed Tuskegee airman and
- 43:44Navajo code talkers from its websites and training materials. Public
- 43:50outcrop prompted reversals. Figures, who represents the Montgomery area in
- 43:56the House, said the GSA contacted him to confirm that
- 44:01the bus depot was no longer on the list, but
- 44:04he remains apprehensive about additional rounds of cuts, so he
- 44:08and Sewell introduced the Civil Rights Landmark Protection Act to
- 44:13shield the sight and others on the National Register of
- 44:16Historic Places. The bill would require congressional approval before the sale, disposal,
- 44:23declaration of excess or surplus, transfer, or conveyance of federal
- 44:28property with historical significance. If you sell it, you use
- 44:32control of what stories that building is used to tell.
- 44:36Figus said of the station, a single story, tan brick
- 44:39structure that still bears the Greyhound bus name and logo.
- 44:44It's the museum now, but what's next? We can keep
- 44:48doing this seemingly every week, having to stand up for
- 44:52another aspect of civil rights. HR Bill twenty forty six
- 44:58has yet to receive a hearing. Frit's office, then asked
- 45:02whether she would support the legislation, responded that she will
- 45:07continue to insure these civil rights or land markers that
- 45:11represent both Alabama and American history remain protected. A GOSA
- 45:16spokesperson did not address whether historic sites would be exempted
- 45:21from future sales, saying only that additional assets will be
- 45:26posted regularly. The Deep South is home to nearly all
- 45:30stops on the Civil Rights Trail. About three dozen are
- 45:33in Alabama, the most of any state, with a dozen
- 45:37of those in Montgomery. Many here are within walking distance,
- 45:41including the Rosa Parks Museum and the Reverend Martin Luther
- 45:45king Jeniu's former church, where mass meetings were held in
- 45:49nineteen fifty five to organize what became the year long
- 45:52Montgomery bus Boycott. Other historic sites in this city, the
- 45:57first capital of the Confederacy, are conspicuously exempt from federal
- 46:02cross cutting. There is the Alabama State House, a Greek
- 46:06Revival style edifice that completed in eighteen fifty one that
- 46:11today is a working museum. Across the street stands the
- 46:15first White House of the Confederacy, bought more than a
- 46:19century ago by a private association with state help, and
- 46:22maintained with more than one hundred thousand dollars in annual
- 46:26state funding. The bus depot had been at risk of
- 46:30being demolished when it closed in nineteen ninety five, but
- 46:34local supporters rallied and within the year got the federal
- 46:37government to buy the building and added to the National Register.
- 46:41It took almost fifteen years for them to get the
- 46:44National Historical Commission to turn it into a museum. This spring,
- 46:49staff had been mounting their first permanent exhibit. It is
- 46:53expected to open later this year. Valerie Smedley, who runs
- 47:00tours of Montgomery souvenir shop, said she doesn't mind the
- 47:04government maintaining Confederate monuments as long as civil rights landsmarks
- 47:08are also protected. If you're going to tell the story,
- 47:12tell it all, she said. The Freedom Rhymes Museum draws
- 47:16visitors from across the country. On a sunny Thursday last month,
- 47:21David Todd Lawrence was back for an idea. Lawrence, an
- 47:25associate professor who teaches African American literature and culture, brought
- 47:30students from the University of Saint Thomas and Saint Pame
- 47:33and Aesuba. As always, the goal was to turn abstract
- 47:38lessons about racism into concrete experiences in places where things
- 47:44actually happened. He said. There is a picture of one
- 47:49colored and white designations inscribed on two marble slabs that
- 47:55once loomed over segregated water fountains at the Cress Department
- 48:00store in downtown Montgomery. I remember those that afternoon. Richard
- 48:05and Julia Harris of Rochelle, Illinois, came with their three
- 48:09children as part of a spring break tour of the
- 48:11Civil Rights Trail. The trio ages eleven, twelve, and seventeen
- 48:16examined the photo of black travelers waiting outside the station
- 48:20they took in the images of freedom writers like John Lewis,
- 48:24a future congressman, in blood splattered clothes following the mob's attack.
- 48:30Especially with everything that's going on right now in the
- 48:33world with voting rights, I want my kids to know.
- 48:36Richard Harris said he is black, his wife white, with
- 48:41mixed children. They need to know where they came from.
- 48:43Julia Harris said some of the freedom writer's photos were
- 48:48paired with coats. One came from Charles Person, who in
- 48:51nineteen sixty one was an eighteen year old freshman at
- 48:54Marhose College in Atlanta. What would you get on the
- 48:58bus for? Pearson died in January at eighty two. At
- 49:04least half of the activists who rode into Montgomery have
- 49:06already passed. Strictly noted. Those still living often can't share
- 49:11their stories. The Reverend Cloud Carter, who lives in Birmingham
- 49:15in is ninety four, hasn't done an interview since last
- 49:19year because of dementia. According to sun in Law. Lukara
- 49:23Mazumbi Mazimbi, executive director of the Alabama African American Civil
- 49:30Rights Heritage Sites Consortium recorded an interview with Carter in
- 49:35nineteen twenty three. Along with a hundred more oral histories,
- 49:39he's developing an apt to allow others to record their
- 49:42own accounts at home. The Zimbi, host of podcast, stayed
- 49:46on Freedom, with which he shares the stories, but he
- 49:50laments that we will never be able to get all
- 49:54of them because we are working against times. The museum's
- 49:59potential closure, coupled with Trump's executive orders, had made with
- 50:03Johnbie feel as if that whole history is under assault.
- 50:07He wishes the museum could be bought and run by
- 50:10a private group. The only way that we truly can preserve,
- 50:14protect and promote this legacy is that people themselves have
- 50:17to exercise stewardship. The stakes are clearing Montgomery's once segregated
- 50:22Centennial Hill, where a home that served as a safe
- 50:26house for freedom riders after they were beaten is privately owned.
- 50:30Where properties across the street were demolished and replaced with
- 50:33a parking garage down the street, the historically back to
- 50:37own Ben Moore Hotel and its Majestic Cafe recently went
- 50:42up for sale. That whole block is sacred ground. The
- 50:45Jimbie said. Valga Harris Montgomery was thirteen when the Freedom
- 50:50Ribbers arrived at her family's host that awful day, and
- 50:53injured Lewis was among them. That's the Freedom Writers eating
- 50:58at the Kenna, Montgomery said, as she sat in her
- 51:01kitchen and looked over photos of the twenty one who
- 51:04traveled to Montgomery. She pointed to one with a female
- 51:07student leader who had become a prominent lifelong activist. There's
- 51:12Reverend King and Diane Nash by the refrigerator, and John
- 51:16Lewis with the bandage on the back of his head.
- 51:20Montgomery serves as president of the museum's Friends Society, raising
- 51:25money to make sure the history doesn't get erased. She
- 51:29gives tours by appointment and is constantly dismayed by how
- 51:33many students, even local ones, don't know the names of
- 51:36any freedom writers. The week before, a group of Florida
- 51:41Public high school students told her they're being taught according
- 51:45to new state education standards, that black people benefited from
- 51:50slavery by learning useful skills. Montgomery was aghast. She walked
- 51:56upstairs to a shag carpeted formal playroom where she won
- 52:00watched Freedom writers strategize with her follow a pharmacist who
- 52:04was among those famed tuscagee Ermann. On a table, she
- 52:09placed a copy of the will that Lewis drafted in
- 52:12long hand, and protester's thank you notes to her family
- 52:15from jail. Montgomery said she wasn't scared back then. She
- 52:19believed progress was inevitable, and now she is truly afraid
- 52:25the civil rights movement and its very history could be destroyed.
- 52:31All the fight we put in, we put our lives
- 52:34on the line. If we don't share it and pass
- 52:36it on, we'll be warded down or will be incomplete.
- 52:40It's happening as we speak our last article. Whitehouse embraces
- 52:47lab leak as true pandemic origin ax's COVID website. US
- 52:55intelligent agencies had been split on how the coronavirus began.
- 53:00Most Americans blame a lab accident in China by Dan
- 53:06Diamond and Lauren Webber. The White House on Friday launched
- 53:10a website deeming a laboratory leak as the true origin
- 53:14of the coronavirus, embracing a theory that has become a
- 53:18popular explanation for a pandemic that has killed more than
- 53:21the Median Americans, but remains divisive in an intelligence community
- 53:26and is opposed by many virologists. The new website, which
- 53:30features an image of President Donald Trump striding between the
- 53:34words lab leak, appears to draw entirely upon a report
- 53:41overseen by Our Host Republicans last year that concluded the
- 53:47outbreak began with the lab leak in China. The White
- 53:50House site also echoes the report's allegations that Anthony S. Foci,
- 53:55a former senior National Institutes of Health official who became
- 53:59the target of Trump's I, prompted scientists to instead focus
- 54:04on possible natural explanation for the outbreak that included a
- 54:09potential virus spreading to humans from a Huan market where
- 54:13while animals were sold by nearly all measures of science.
- 54:18If there was evidence of a natural origin, it would
- 54:21have already surfaced, but it hasn't. The White Hose website
- 54:25reads encouraging visitors to download the embedded Host Republicans report.
- 54:32Five years after the nation's shut down to combat the
- 54:35novel coronavirus, the virus's threat has receded, but fights over
- 54:40pandemic policy have night. Trump and his allies have blamed
- 54:44the advice from Fauchi and other federal officials for some
- 54:47of the harshest measures, such as social distancing rules that
- 54:51led to schools shutdowns of business closures. Democrats have blamed
- 54:56Trump's own efforts to initially downplay the virus, his threat,
- 55:00and his hesitation to encourage supporters to seek out life
- 55:04saving coronavirus vaccines. States are fighting the Trump administration's attempt
- 55:10to claw back more than a eleven billion in coronavirus
- 55:14funds from their health departments, saying it will weaken the
- 55:17ability to respond to public health threats. Meanwhile, scientists have
- 55:22acknowledged questions over the value of risky virus research that
- 55:26was being conducted in human and other sites, calling for
- 55:31tighter controls that are known as gain of function experiments,
- 55:36where live pathogens can be altered to become more deadly.
- 55:40Republicans hail the White House site, calling in an overdue
- 55:43effort at accountability, President Donald Trump is rightfully providing the
- 55:49American people with the truth about the COVID nineteen pandemic.
- 55:53Representative James Como, Republican of Kentucky, who chairs the Host
- 55:58Oversight Committee, said in his statement. Coma's panel oversaw the
- 56:02pandemic report that underpins the new site. Democrats and scientists
- 56:07counted that the Trump administration has embraced unproven claims to
- 56:11attack scientists and institutions that support them. The White House
- 56:16is declaring its own scientific truth, which goes against the
- 56:20published science on this issue. It just appeals to this
- 56:24notion of conspiracy, that there are forces working behind the
- 56:28scenes that mean to do us harm, said Paul Offitt,
- 56:32director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children's Hospital
- 56:36of Philadelphia. No Democrat on the host panel investigating the
- 56:41federal pandemic response signed on to the gop led report
- 56:45last year, instead releasing a rebubble that acknowledged the possibility
- 56:50of a lab leak, which said that Republicans had wrongly
- 56:53embraced it to conduct political attacks on scientists. Bauci has
- 56:57previously denied wrongdoing, pointing to an email sent in early
- 57:02twenty twenty, rather than NIH officials discuss the need to
- 57:06alert authorities if scientists uncovered evidence that the virus had
- 57:11been man made. Scientists who worked on a key paper
- 57:16that shaped the early debate around the pandemic's potential cause,
- 57:20known as proximal origins, testified to Congress. I felt you
- 57:25did not influence their findings. And this is the end
- 57:29of the reading for today, the nineteenth of April of
- 57:33twenty twenty five. I wish all a happy Easter tomorrow.
- 57:39Please have a good weekend. Stay tuned for continued programming
- 57:44on Radio I