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- 2:03Speaker 5: Today we're going to talk about appraisals right home appraisals,
- 2:06Speaker 5: and we're going to attack it from a different standpoint.
- 2:09Speaker 5: So I actually wrote a post about this on my
- 2:11Speaker 5: Instagram page a while back, if anybody follows me. So,
- 2:14Speaker 5: there was a recent study by the Bookings Institute in
- 2:17Speaker 5: Gallop which shows that homes and majority black neighborhoods are
- 2:22Speaker 5: undervalued during their pazel process by forty eight thousand dollars
- 2:27Speaker 5: per home, which amounts to one hundred and fifty six
- 2:30Speaker 5: billion dollars in cumulative losses nationwide. So what happens is
- 2:35Speaker 5: that they're saying that black homes are valued at twenty
- 2:38Speaker 5: three percent lower than the white counterparts. So obviously how
- 2:42Speaker 5: they do that is that they base it like the
- 2:45Speaker 5: same home. Right, so it has to be like three bedroom,
- 2:48Speaker 5: two bath home and a black neighborhood three bedroom, Yeah,
- 2:51Speaker 5: exactly comparable what we call in the real estate industry comparables.
- 2:53Speaker 4: Right.
- 2:53Speaker 5: So they're not going to compare a one bedroom apartment
- 2:56Speaker 5: to a mansion. They compare the same exact home, same
- 2:58Speaker 5: exact space, backyard, all of.
- 3:00Speaker 4: That stuff within the same zip code.
- 3:02Speaker 5: Right. So on average, the black home is value that
- 3:07Speaker 5: forty eight thousand less than the white home. So what
- 3:11Speaker 5: happens is that now it affects people in a lot
- 3:14Speaker 5: of different ways. Right. So now when you have less
- 3:18Speaker 5: value when you sell your home, right, you're getting less money, right,
- 3:21Speaker 5: You're also it lowers your net worth, Right, it lowers
- 3:25Speaker 5: your equity that you can borrow from because the value
- 3:27Speaker 5: of the home is less. So it's a lot of
- 3:29Speaker 5: negative effects for that. Right. So some people will say, okay, well,
- 3:32Speaker 5: the reason that the black homes and then black neighborhoods
- 3:37Speaker 5: are lower than white neighborhoods is because black neighborhoods, unfortunately,
- 3:43Speaker 5: a lot of times you have higher crime rates. It
- 3:45Speaker 5: sometimes maybe a longer commute, bad schools, So all of
- 3:48Speaker 5: that stuff plays a factor in the home value, right,
- 3:51Speaker 5: and that's true, But the studies showed that that only
- 3:54Speaker 5: accounts for actually half of the devaluation. So what happened
- 4:00Speaker 5: to the other seventy eight billion? Right, So that only
- 4:02Speaker 5: accounted for one seventy eight billion, But the other seventy
- 4:05Speaker 5: eight billion is not accounting for in all those other factors.
- 4:07Speaker 5: So this is what the study show, not me. So
- 4:11Speaker 5: the Booking Institute, the Gallop, they came to the conclusion
- 4:13Speaker 5: that the other seventy eight billion dollars in devaluation was
- 4:18Speaker 5: solely due to one thing. You know what that one
- 4:21Speaker 5: thing is, Go ahead, tell me racism. Right. They just
- 4:24Speaker 5: said that they just valued black homes lower. Right, when
- 4:28Speaker 5: appraiser comes, he just looks at a black home as
- 4:31Speaker 5: being worse less than a white home. It's just that's
- 4:35Speaker 5: what it is. That's what that's what it accounted for. Right.
- 4:37Speaker 5: So this is a troubling statistic, right, for a lot
- 4:42Speaker 5: of different reasons. But the main reason is that, you know,
- 4:46Speaker 5: one of the things that you know, you always taught
- 4:48Speaker 5: in America is that you do good you buy a home.
- 4:52Speaker 5: You know, that's like the number one way to preserve
- 4:54Speaker 5: wealth for your family, do the right things, and you
- 4:56Speaker 5: can sell your home. But now, ay, it's already discriminory,
- 5:00Speaker 5: discriminatory practices and actually buying a home, right dude, that's
- 5:03Speaker 5: been proven. And now even if you do buy the home,
- 5:07Speaker 5: it's devalued just because you live in it. Right. So
- 5:11Speaker 5: it was interesting when I wrote that story because a
- 5:14Speaker 5: lot of people were going back and forth like, well,
- 5:17Speaker 5: I don't believe that. It's like, you know, a lot
- 5:20Speaker 5: of people don't believe that racism is actually real thing.
- 5:24Speaker 5: But the thing about it is that it doesn't even
- 5:25Speaker 5: affect people just in black neighborhood. They can affect white
- 5:28Speaker 5: a black family living in a white neighborhood. Right. So,
- 5:33Speaker 5: as I said, so, a lot of times people were saying, like,
- 5:36Speaker 5: this is just made up. I don't believe it. So
- 5:38Speaker 5: now being that we have a personal story to confirm it,
- 5:45Speaker 5: you're going to go into your story.
- 5:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 5:47Speaker 3: You know what, when you wrote the article and I
- 5:48Speaker 3: had no idea you were writing an article, I thought
- 5:50Speaker 3: you were writing it about me. I honestly were like, yo,
- 5:53Speaker 3: this guy just wrote my story.
- 5:55Speaker 4: And I called you.
- 5:55Speaker 3: I'm like you serious, and you're like, nah, this is
- 5:58Speaker 3: like factuals to the evidence and I'm like, oh wow,
- 6:02Speaker 3: this is really happening.
- 6:03Speaker 4: So two years ago, almost about two years ago, I
- 6:07Speaker 4: was in.
- 6:08Speaker 3: The process of buying a home and that comes, let's
- 6:11Speaker 3: go back. I wasn't going to be in the process
- 6:14Speaker 3: if it wasn't for you. And that was part of
- 6:16Speaker 3: the early leisure conversation. My family was about to move
- 6:20Speaker 3: and you were like, hey, why don't you go.
- 6:22Speaker 4: In and buy a home?
- 6:22Speaker 3: And I was like, I had not getten any thought.
- 6:24Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, maybe maybe you was shot out,
- 6:27Speaker 3: maybe I should do this. So you sparked that in
- 6:30Speaker 3: my mind, I'm like, all right, Well, I presented the
- 6:32Speaker 3: proposal to my family and they were like, let's do this.
- 6:35Speaker 4: And one of the things we had to do was
- 6:37Speaker 4: get the house of Praise.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Now, my family bought the home in twenty ten, and
- 6:44Speaker 3: the house was valued at five hundred and seventy five thousand.
- 6:48Speaker 3: That's what it was valued at. We bought it for
- 6:50Speaker 3: five hundred and twenty five thousand. That was a purchase
- 6:54Speaker 3: price in twenty ten. Long story short, part of my
- 6:59Speaker 3: family wanted to move moved to another area, so I
- 7:01Speaker 3: came in and went in on a deal with my
- 7:04Speaker 3: father and we got the house and the process of
- 7:09Speaker 3: appraisal was an alarming one because when he the appraisal
- 7:13Speaker 3: I won't say his name, we're actually still in there.
- 7:15Speaker 4: We wrote a Consumer Reports review about it.
- 7:18Speaker 3: The appraisal man came in and said that the house
- 7:23Speaker 3: had devalued. Now we have added things to the home,
- 7:26Speaker 3: you know, the typical things obviously stand still, furniture, I
- 7:29Speaker 3: mean stay in still, appliances, would floors, all all the
- 7:32Speaker 3: things that you would add to, you know, increase value
- 7:35Speaker 3: in your home. And in the eight year, eight year period,
- 7:38Speaker 3: the house went from being purchased at five hundred and
- 7:41Speaker 3: twenty five thousand to now being five hundred and ten thousand.
- 7:45Speaker 5: So all right, so you bought a house in New York,
- 7:48Speaker 5: in the suburbs of New York west Chester, which is
- 7:50Speaker 5: anybody's not familiar. It's affluent, prey affluent neighborhood.
- 7:53Speaker 4: White plans in New York.
- 7:54Speaker 5: Okay, so you buy a house for five hundred and.
- 7:58Speaker 3: How much five hundred and twenty five thousand, ten Yeah,
- 8:02Speaker 3: seven years where there is no market correction.
- 8:05Speaker 5: Real estate has only gone up in New York and
- 8:07Speaker 5: across America as a whole.
- 8:10Speaker 4: But definitely and especially in this neighborhood.
- 8:12Speaker 5: Okay, you made improvements, you made improvements to the home,
- 8:16Speaker 5: and he said that the home was devalued by fifteen thousand.
- 8:20Speaker 4: Fifteen thousand.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Yeah, so like when you look at that, it's like,
- 8:23Speaker 3: oh wait, that's kind of crazy. But then you look
- 8:25Speaker 3: at the comparables because that's part of the appraisal process too.
- 8:29Speaker 3: So I looked at the comparables. Six hundred, six hundred
- 8:32Speaker 3: and fifty six hundred eighteen. We had an offer on
- 8:36Speaker 3: the table, like my brother was going to sell the
- 8:38Speaker 3: house before I stepped in, and the offer was for
- 8:41Speaker 3: six hundred, six hundred thousand, and you got to praise
- 8:44Speaker 3: at fifty five hundred and ten thousand.
- 8:47Speaker 5: And what do your neighbors look like?
- 8:51Speaker 4: My neighbors are from a different ethnic background, but ethnic background.
- 8:56Speaker 3: We have Hispanic neighbors, we have neighbors, we have a
- 9:01Speaker 3: few black neighbors down the street.
- 9:04Speaker 5: The majority of people in your neighborhood, what are white?
- 9:06Speaker 4: Majority of them?
- 9:07Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so the comparables in the neighborhood is six
- 9:11Speaker 5: hundred thousand.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Six hundred plus at least. So the deal was time sensitive.
- 9:16Speaker 3: So not only did I was like blown away by
- 9:19Speaker 3: the number that came back.
- 9:21Speaker 4: I knew that we had to react fast because there was.
- 9:24Speaker 3: A lot of dominoes that were going to fall if
- 9:26Speaker 3: we didn't get this done. So he came in and
- 9:28Speaker 3: gave us a five hundred and ten thousand appraisal. But
- 9:31Speaker 3: on top of it, I had to pay him eight
- 9:33Speaker 3: hundred dollars to him to do that, so like, not
- 9:35Speaker 3: only was it in justice in a disservice, but I
- 9:38Speaker 3: had to pay him out of my pocket to say
- 9:39Speaker 3: thank you. He came in, he was here for maybe
- 9:43Speaker 3: ten minutes and left and that was the last time
- 9:46Speaker 3: I saw him until I had to, you know, get
- 9:49Speaker 3: in contact with him, like how did this happen? And
- 9:51Speaker 3: you know, his explanation was pretty much, you don't have
- 9:55Speaker 3: the size of the backyard as the comparables. So I
- 9:59Speaker 3: was like, no, this is this is impossible. I literal
- 10:01Speaker 3: drove around the neighborhood to the comparables. I'm like, no,
- 10:03Speaker 3: this is no way. And being that the process of
- 10:08Speaker 3: getting the house was time sensitive, I just had to say,
- 10:10Speaker 3: you know what, I'm just gonna have to take this
- 10:12Speaker 3: one and then we'll deal with this at a later time.
- 10:14Speaker 3: My mortgage broker at the time was like, you know,
- 10:16Speaker 3: I don't believe this. This is crazy, but at a
- 10:19Speaker 3: certain extent, you're at the bank's mercy, right, Like they're
- 10:22Speaker 3: the one that's approven you for the loan. They send
- 10:24Speaker 3: their appraisal, the person that do the appraisal, so it's like,
- 10:27Speaker 3: what do you do?
- 10:28Speaker 5: So at that point in time, he took ninety thousand
- 10:30Speaker 5: off the table, oh, wealth right from your family pretty much?
- 10:35Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 10:35Speaker 5: Wait, just his opinion.
- 10:37Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing.
- 10:38Speaker 3: It's like a lot of people don't get to this
- 10:41Speaker 3: level to even see this type of discrimination, right because
- 10:43Speaker 3: how many people are in the position to even get
- 10:46Speaker 3: a home, you know what I mean. And it's like
- 10:49Speaker 3: I can tell this story, but it's like who else
- 10:51Speaker 3: can relate to this? Because, like I said, when you
- 10:53Speaker 3: wrote it, I was like, wait, you're writing my story
- 10:55Speaker 3: and You're like no, this is happening everywhere, and I'm like, oh, oh,
- 10:59Speaker 3: now I have to take so I have taken some access,
- 11:02Speaker 3: and it's still.
- 11:03Speaker 5: You know, what's crazy. Somebody said on my Instagram that
- 11:06Speaker 5: she told the story. I don't know for sure or not,
- 11:08Speaker 5: but I'm gonna give her the benefit down say it's true.
- 11:10Speaker 5: So she said that She had a home of praise
- 11:12Speaker 5: three times and each time, let's say it was three
- 11:16Speaker 5: hundred thousands roughly, I forget the number, but let's say
- 11:19Speaker 5: three hundred thousand. It was like solid three hundred thousands,
- 11:21Speaker 5: three times in a row. She had her white neighbor
- 11:24Speaker 5: come for the fourth appraisal. She took down all the
- 11:27Speaker 5: pictures and the white neighbor answered the door. Long story short,
- 11:30Speaker 5: the praiser thought that it was a white neighbor's home.
- 11:32Speaker 5: You know how much it was a praise for four
- 11:34Speaker 5: hundred I think like four to ten one hundred and
- 11:38Speaker 5: ten thousand dollars more, just on an opinion because he
- 11:41Speaker 5: saw a white person.
- 11:41Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens.
- 12:01Speaker 3: Look, I'm like, we're literally and I lived it and
- 12:04Speaker 3: I'm still living in it, and it's like wow, And
- 12:06Speaker 3: I try to get that message out like yo, this
- 12:07Speaker 3: is happening. But like I said, like who can relate
- 12:10Speaker 3: to it? Like a lot of my peers are you know,
- 12:12Speaker 3: are renting and they're not in the process of owning
- 12:15Speaker 3: a home yet and they will be. But it's like, oh,
- 12:18Speaker 3: this is how how is this possible? So like what
- 12:20Speaker 3: would be the answer to eliminate that? Like you know
- 12:24Speaker 3: what I mean, Like we have to get our own
- 12:25Speaker 3: independent appraiser. Yeah, but that independent appraiser doesn't necessarily work
- 12:30Speaker 3: for the bank who's giving you the loan, so it's
- 12:33Speaker 3: like what do you do?
- 12:35Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an interesting discussion on my Instagram pagecause
- 12:38Speaker 5: then some appraisers came in. It was actually hoping to
- 12:39Speaker 5: get somebody in the praiser to come in as a guest,
- 12:41Speaker 5: but we wasn't able to. But yeah, yeah, it's a
- 12:46Speaker 5: I don't know, it's an unfortunate situation that it's just
- 12:49Speaker 5: stuff like that people don't even aren't really even thinking
- 12:51Speaker 5: about right now. You had about like the hardcore racism stuff,
- 12:53Speaker 5: but little stuff like that that's real wealth. So you're ninety,
- 12:57Speaker 5: so your situation was ninety thousand dollars right now, you
- 13:00Speaker 5: can see how when hit about one hundred and fifty
- 13:02Speaker 5: six billion, Like that's a large number, but how many
- 13:05Speaker 5: people are like you ninety thousand here, one hundred thousand here,
- 13:08Speaker 5: thirty thousands up? Yeahs up, all.
- 13:11Speaker 4: Right, And like you said, like that's part of that generational.
- 13:13Speaker 5: Wealth and that's not even a black neighborhood right right.
- 13:18Speaker 3: It just was that, Hey, they saw the family that
- 13:20Speaker 3: was here, and this is what we're saying it is,
- 13:22Speaker 3: and take it or leave it. And if you leave it,
- 13:25Speaker 3: then you're not going to get this ome because we're
- 13:27Speaker 3: not approving you for this.
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- 17:16Speaker 3: We only knew one of the wealthiest people of color
- 17:20Speaker 3: in the world, and their minds were blown. And I
- 17:24Speaker 3: was like, well, this is why, right, because all we've
- 17:28Speaker 3: been we see is sports and entertainment. So we went
- 17:31Speaker 3: to the number one person, the wealthiest black person or
- 17:34Speaker 3: person of color in the entire world, well black person
- 17:36Speaker 3: not even personal African descent. And we came to the
- 17:40Speaker 3: name Aliko than Golti, Aliko dan Goti. He's actually from
- 17:46Speaker 3: Nigeria and its networth this year, well in twenty eighteen,
- 17:50Speaker 3: was ten point seven billion.
- 17:53Speaker 4: You want to go into it.
- 17:54Speaker 5: Yeah, So Aliko Dane Gotie. We wanted to cover him
- 17:59Speaker 5: for a few different reasons. But shout out to Africa.
- 18:02Speaker 5: We have a lot of listeners in Africa and the
- 18:05Speaker 5: UK and all over. And you know, obviously we live
- 18:08Speaker 5: in America, so most of our stories are based off
- 18:10Speaker 5: of Americans. But we're bigger than's just America. Right, you know,
- 18:15Speaker 5: the world, as I always say, the world is flat.
- 18:17Speaker 5: So we want to show love to every part of
- 18:19Speaker 5: the world and to give inspiration to every part of
- 18:21Speaker 5: the world as well. Right. So, as you said, the
- 18:23Speaker 5: richest black person in the world, African descent, whatever you
- 18:25Speaker 5: want to call it, is from Nigeria. Right, He's worth
- 18:29Speaker 5: ten billion dollars. So we're going to tell his story.
- 18:31Speaker 5: So because I'm pretty sure that most people aren't familiar
- 18:34Speaker 5: with him.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, every time I've brought him up in conversation,
- 18:37Speaker 3: people will say who is that, and it's it's ironic,
- 18:40Speaker 3: like we know who Floyd Mayweather is, and we know
- 18:42Speaker 3: who Jay Z and I mean, they've had a huge
- 18:45Speaker 3: amount of success, but those three people, they're not worth
- 18:49Speaker 3: doesn't even add up to his No, it's not even close.
- 18:51Speaker 5: So all right, so Aliko, he he comes from Nigeria,
- 18:55Speaker 5: right and he uh, he starts in twenty one and
- 19:00Speaker 5: the concrete business. So he comes from a wealthy family
- 19:02Speaker 5: already nowhere near where he is now. But he comes
- 19:06Speaker 5: from a wealthy family. So that's no. That's another thing too.
- 19:08Speaker 5: We have to keep in mind because even with the
- 19:10Speaker 5: whole thing with Kylie Jenner, as far as what self made,
- 19:12Speaker 5: that's that was big on the page. And we have
- 19:15Speaker 5: to keep in mind that there are black wealthy people, right.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Like his grandfather was wealthy, the wealthiest person in West Africage.
- 19:22Speaker 5: Yeah, so and there's nothing wrong with we have to
- 19:26Speaker 5: get out of that mind like, there's nothing to be
- 19:29Speaker 5: embarrassed about if your if your family has money. But
- 19:31Speaker 5: that's what we should strive to do to actually leave
- 19:33Speaker 5: a legacy for our kids. And it's like we almost
- 19:36Speaker 5: like are embarrassed if we have any leg up. I
- 19:41Speaker 5: mean like it's it's kind of backwards way of thinking.
- 19:43Speaker 5: But so, yeah, he comes from a wealthy family, but
- 19:47Speaker 5: nowhere near where he is now. So at twenty one,
- 19:49Speaker 5: he starts a concrete business, right and from there it's
- 19:54Speaker 5: a five thousand dollars alone that he got from his
- 19:55Speaker 5: uncle to start the business. From there, he parlayed that
- 19:59Speaker 5: and to pretty much everything agriculture, food, telecommunications.
- 20:07Speaker 4: Banking, petroleum, banking, controleum, sugar flowers.
- 20:10Speaker 5: Sugar flower everything. He's like guys, guy's hands and everything.
- 20:14Speaker 5: Everything in the country is pretty much he's involved with
- 20:17Speaker 5: in one way or the other. He's heavy in politics everything. Right,
- 20:20Speaker 5: So what he's doing now is that he is taking
- 20:24Speaker 5: a major risk. But that's what business is about, right.
- 20:28Speaker 5: He's taking a major risk and building a twelve billion
- 20:32Speaker 5: dollar petroleum refinery, yes, right in Nigeria.
- 20:37Speaker 3: So just a quick a couple of things about Nigeria.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Nigeria is Africa's largest oil producer, so that's just the
- 20:44Speaker 3: first thing. Now, they have the control of I think
- 20:46Speaker 3: the tenth largest oil reserves in the country.
- 20:49Speaker 4: Oh and I'm sorry in.
- 20:50Speaker 3: The world, in the world, but they don't there take
- 20:54Speaker 3: their resource, not their resources, but they don't have refineries
- 20:58Speaker 3: that are efficient enough to get it throughout the entire time.
- 21:01Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:01Speaker 5: So the thing about Nigeria is that they have the
- 21:03Speaker 5: tenth largest oil reserves, like you said, in the world,
- 21:07Speaker 5: but they only have four state run refineries and those
- 21:11Speaker 5: are old. So what happens is that they have to
- 21:14Speaker 5: import most of their petroleum, which makes no sense, right
- 21:17Speaker 5: because you have so much petroleum in your backyard literally,
- 21:22Speaker 5: but you have to import it because you don't have
- 21:24Speaker 5: the infrastructure to actually produce it yourself. So that's his thing.
- 21:27Speaker 5: His thing is like, why do why don't we have
- 21:29Speaker 5: to bring in all of this stuff from the Middle
- 21:30Speaker 5: East and all these other from countries when we have
- 21:32Speaker 5: it right here. So he's building a twelve billion dollar
- 21:36Speaker 5: refinery and what that will do is make it well
- 21:41Speaker 5: as going to be the largest petroleum refinery.
- 21:43Speaker 4: In the world.
- 21:44Speaker 5: Yeah, in the world.
- 21:45Speaker 3: Literally he went out and this is built on wasteland.
- 21:48Speaker 3: So he I mean again, his business helps with this process,
- 21:53Speaker 3: right because he has the concrete, and he has the
- 21:56Speaker 3: trucks and he has all these things to help build it.
- 21:58Speaker 3: So he's building it right now. I believe it's off
- 22:00Speaker 3: the south coast of Nigeria. But yeah, like, let's build
- 22:04Speaker 3: this refinery because there's no point of us as important anymore.
- 22:08Speaker 5: Right, So that's going to take if all goes well.
- 22:11Speaker 5: So right now, his company made four billion dollars in revenue.
- 22:14Speaker 5: That shit, if all goes well, that's going to take
- 22:16Speaker 5: it from his company from four billion to thirty billion.
- 22:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:19Speaker 3: So the key part about that is that sixty percent
- 22:23Speaker 3: of Nigeria, right is not they're not connected to the
- 22:26Speaker 3: power grid sixty percent and when the people who are,
- 22:29Speaker 3: they have like four hours of power at a time.
- 22:31Speaker 3: So there's like long history of blackouts in the country.
- 22:34Speaker 3: So he has a chance to provide electricity now to
- 22:37Speaker 3: an entire country.
- 22:39Speaker 5: Well, yes, he has a chance to change the course
- 22:41Speaker 5: of Nigeria forever, forever and also change the cost of
- 22:44Speaker 5: Africa as.
- 22:45Speaker 4: Well, the entire continent.
- 22:46Speaker 5: Right, yeah, exactly, So what he's doing is more than
- 22:49Speaker 5: just money, right, he has actual chance to really leave
- 22:54Speaker 5: a legacy forever when it comes to Africa. And then
- 22:57Speaker 5: of course money plays a part as well as let's
- 22:59Speaker 5: say it takes his company from four billion to thirty billion,
- 23:01Speaker 5: So now he's a billionaire. Now. I think he was
- 23:04Speaker 5: like number hundred.
- 23:04Speaker 3: On the list, yeah he I think his highest rank
- 23:07Speaker 3: on the list was like twenty five. He was up
- 23:09Speaker 3: to like twenty twenty. Yeah, a couple of things.
- 23:12Speaker 5: But this does now, this puts him in like the
- 23:14Speaker 5: top twenty. Now now he's in there with Bloomberg and
- 23:18Speaker 5: guys like that. Right, So that changed the trajectory of
- 23:21Speaker 5: wealth as well. But as I said, more importantly, like
- 23:24Speaker 5: you said, sixty pent of the country doesn't have electricity.
- 23:27Speaker 5: They're the tenth largest oil producing country, but they have
- 23:30Speaker 5: to import all their oil, so they make themself reliant.
- 23:35Speaker 5: They can keep all their resources at home now and
- 23:38Speaker 5: it sets a trend for West Africa and the whole
- 23:41Speaker 5: Sub Saharan Africa as a whole, right, because we all
- 23:45Speaker 5: know that Africa is the richest continent as far as
- 23:48Speaker 5: minerals and what's in the earth, but unfortunately it's the
- 23:53Speaker 5: poorest continent economically, right, So hopefully this will be a
- 23:57Speaker 5: trend that countries can follow in busines, this man in
- 24:00Speaker 5: the countries can follow where now the wealth is actually
- 24:03Speaker 5: kept in Africa and they're producing for themselves and they're
- 24:06Speaker 5: keeping it for themselves, right, So there's two sides to
- 24:08Speaker 5: every story, right. So a lot of people aren't big
- 24:12Speaker 5: fans of his because they said that, you know, he
- 24:16Speaker 5: has a lot of money off shore and some shaky
- 24:19Speaker 5: business practices, political pays on the politicians.
- 24:25Speaker 3: So his wealth, right, and when we look at our
- 24:27Speaker 3: country and we think of the wealthiest people in the world,
- 24:30Speaker 3: and we know that one percent of the population has
- 24:34Speaker 3: more money than ninety nine percent, so his statistic is
- 24:37Speaker 3: even larger because yes, I think fifty percent of the
- 24:40Speaker 3: country does live in poverty, and you have now a
- 24:42Speaker 3: man who's in the top one hundred wealthiest people in
- 24:44Speaker 3: the world, so the disparacy is even greater.
- 24:46Speaker 4: So people are looking at that, like, but.
- 24:48Speaker 5: That's not just his I mean, look at Carlos Slim.
- 24:50Speaker 4: Right in Mexico. Another person.
- 24:52Speaker 5: I look at his brillion of billionaires in India or
- 24:55Speaker 5: even America, right, so that's all over the world. Yeah,
- 24:59Speaker 5: but like I said this, you know, there's there's some
- 25:01Speaker 5: some rumors that you know, he's done some things, which
- 25:04Speaker 5: I mean most business people have on a certain level. Right,
- 25:07Speaker 5: But then he also has a charity where he's donated
- 25:09Speaker 5: one point two billion dollars of his own wealth.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe him and Bill Gates or doing.
- 25:13Speaker 5: He's doing some stuff with Bill Gates. Well, but then
- 25:15Speaker 5: he also built two hundred homes for poor people.
- 25:18Speaker 3: So and he said his favorite So he for the
- 25:22Speaker 3: first twenty years of business, so he started his company
- 25:24Speaker 3: I believe in nineteen seventy seven, first twenty years of business,
- 25:27Speaker 3: refused to travel, did not travel at all.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Yeah, that's into no vacation. So that's because that goes
- 25:32Speaker 5: back to the college. Different thing right where I said, Okay,
- 25:34Speaker 5: you start with money. Obviously, if you start with money,
- 25:36Speaker 5: you have a leg up. It's obvious, right, But you
- 25:38Speaker 5: still have to work the money to make it more money.
- 25:41Speaker 5: So the guy didn't take a vacation for twenty years.
- 25:43Speaker 5: Twenty years now he takes vacation now, But for the
- 25:46Speaker 5: first twenty years in business, he didn't take a vacation.
- 25:48Speaker 3: His ratio now is for every two weeks he works,
- 25:50Speaker 3: he takes a vacation. I got to get We have
- 25:52Speaker 3: to get to that, right, Yeah, I mean that's an
- 25:54Speaker 3: amazing question.
- 25:55Speaker 5: It's like, how many people take vacations just got here.
- 26:00Speaker 4: It shouldn't be.
- 26:01Speaker 5: He can't afford it, right, you you.
- 26:03Speaker 4: Have no money and you're still taking vacations just for
- 26:05Speaker 4: the hell of it.
- 26:06Speaker 5: You're going Miami just just cause it's funny.
- 26:08Speaker 4: You said Miami. Because when he said the two favorite
- 26:10Speaker 4: places of travel.
- 26:11Speaker 5: Atlanta in Miami, Atlanta in Miami, that's pretty random. I'ma
- 26:14Speaker 5: be honest with you. If I'm one of the richest
- 26:17Speaker 5: people in the world, I love Miami. I love Atlanta too,
- 26:21Speaker 5: Those would not be my two top travel desers.
- 26:23Speaker 4: Well, where you're coming from though you're coming from New York.
- 26:25Speaker 5: It doesn't no matter where I'm coming from.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Somebody who's in Nigeria that may look at that as
- 26:29Speaker 3: like that's a tourist destination, and we do it like
- 26:32Speaker 3: pretty regularly.
- 26:35Speaker 5: Shotlana Shot to Miami too. It's just a little random
- 26:41Speaker 5: for me, that's all. But yeah, those are his two favorite.
- 26:44Speaker 5: He actually owns a lot of property in Atlanta.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Yeah, he I think he had a residency out there,
- 26:50Speaker 3: But now I think he's saying at some like luxurious
- 26:53Speaker 3: like resort there.
- 26:54Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I mean, Nigga, he's bawling out of control.
- 26:57Speaker 5: But the thing about it also is that so this
- 26:58Speaker 5: flip sides to every coin. So some people say he's
- 27:01Speaker 5: a bad guy, some people say he's a good guy.
- 27:04Speaker 5: I learned that life is complicated, right, So when I
- 27:08Speaker 5: was in Columbia. I went to Columbia a little while ago.
- 27:10Speaker 5: And obviously when you think of Columbia, who do you
- 27:14Speaker 5: think of It's a legend. So everybody knows Pablo Escobar story.
- 27:20Speaker 5: I don't have to tell a story. Half of the
- 27:22Speaker 5: country hates him, despises him, and half of the country
- 27:26Speaker 5: loves them. Right, So depending on who you talk to,
- 27:29Speaker 5: you're gonna get a different story. So if you talk
- 27:32Speaker 5: to some of the people that he might be responsible
- 27:34Speaker 5: for killing and you know, ruining lives and all the things,
- 27:38Speaker 5: then they would tell you that he's the devil, he's
- 27:39Speaker 5: the worst person in the world. But then I went
- 27:41Speaker 5: to a community, I forget what it's called, but it's
- 27:43Speaker 5: Pablo Eskebar community where he built I think like three
- 27:46Speaker 5: hundred homes for poor people, right, And he built the
- 27:50Speaker 5: whole community. He built the hospital, he built homes, restaurants,
- 27:54Speaker 5: grocery stores, He literally built the community for poor people,
- 27:56Speaker 5: and everybody lived rent free, everybody had a home. They
- 28:00Speaker 5: got murals of them on the wall. To this day,
- 28:03Speaker 5: they still got murals of them, like he's he's a saint. Right.
- 28:08Speaker 5: So life is complicated, right, And depending on who you
- 28:10Speaker 5: ask opinion, you're gonna get a clearly different answer.
- 28:14Speaker 4: Yea.
- 28:14Speaker 3: So there was in the part where he's building the refinery,
- 28:18Speaker 3: there was some some some negative press where people had
- 28:22Speaker 3: lived near the land.
- 28:23Speaker 5: And he came in, he cleared the land, so that's
- 28:26Speaker 5: that's it.
- 28:26Speaker 4: Then didn't provide homes or anything.
- 28:28Speaker 5: So they said he cleared off the land to make
- 28:30Speaker 5: wrong but then he build two hunchd homes for poor people.
- 28:34Speaker 5: So it's like.
- 28:35Speaker 3: And his thing is like he doesn't even want to
- 28:36Speaker 3: be remembered as the wealthiest person of African descent. He'd
- 28:39Speaker 3: rather be known as a philanthropist and that's honorable. Like
- 28:42Speaker 3: he just wants to be the person that has given back,
- 28:45Speaker 3: and he has a chance to like what we said,
- 28:47Speaker 3: if you think about it, like his country relies on imports,
- 28:51Speaker 3: he has a chance to reverse their entire trajectory and
- 28:54Speaker 3: be a country that is pretty much making their revenue
- 28:58Speaker 3: from exporting their resources.
- 29:00Speaker 5: So that's I mean, now that's a good story. And
- 29:02Speaker 5: then also it's just you know, we like to highlight
- 29:07Speaker 5: business people and we want to give people inspiration and
- 29:12Speaker 5: hope and just just different figures. Right, Like we all
- 29:15Speaker 5: know who Warren Buffett is. We know who Bill Gates is,
- 29:17Speaker 5: so why should we not know who he is?
- 29:19Speaker 3: I doubt and I mean I work in schools. This
- 29:22Speaker 3: is his name is never being brought up.
- 29:25Speaker 5: But there's a bunch of people. We got Robert Smith,
- 29:27Speaker 5: who's the richest black American. He's a billionaire, and a
- 29:31Speaker 5: lot of people don't know he.
- 29:32Speaker 4: They have well, Rob Johnson before him, and he wasn't
- 29:35Speaker 4: brought up.
- 29:35Speaker 5: But even Rob Johnson, he's still in sports entertainment on
- 29:37Speaker 5: a certain level, but Robert Smith is in private equity.
- 29:40Speaker 5: So we're going to try to highlight different people from
- 29:43Speaker 5: different walks of life, but business in particular, because I
- 29:47Speaker 5: think it's important for people to see these people and
- 29:52Speaker 5: to just know about him. You don't have to be
- 29:53Speaker 5: a fan of him or not, but at least you
- 29:55Speaker 5: should be aware of the.
- 29:56Speaker 3: Power of presence and the power of perceptions. Like at
- 29:59Speaker 3: least I've seen somebody who can do that, is doing this.
- 30:02Speaker 3: It's powerful. If we've never seen that, like, then we
- 30:05Speaker 3: may expire to be an athlete or somebody entertainment. It's like,
- 30:09Speaker 3: oh wait, there's somebody doing something else in this avenue.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Oh I can do this too, right, So the power
- 30:15Speaker 3: of just seeing yourself and somebody successful, you can't measure.
- 30:20Speaker 5: It now, you can't. And once again, shout out to Africa,
- 30:23Speaker 5: uh South Africa, to Nigeria, Ghana, Ethiopia, Somalia, all that, Egypt.
- 30:33Speaker 5: We're gonna go to Africa very soon. I have unfortunately
- 30:36Speaker 5: I have not been to Africa yet. I've been a
- 30:40Speaker 5: lot of different places but I have not been to Africa,
- 30:42Speaker 5: so that's on my to do list. I'm looking forward
- 30:45Speaker 5: to it. I'm very excited and yeah, we're gonna get
- 30:48Speaker 5: out there for sure.
- 30:49Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 30:52Speaker 5: My graduates from my school being forced bad, drop, drop,
- 30:59Speaker 5: drop a job.
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