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Thirsty Thursdays: Pump Rules Pt. 2 Reunion · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops.
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  Speaker 2: in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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  Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
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  Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a
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  Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
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  Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality
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  Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking
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  Speaker 2: and tweeting about.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Rain drive Geez.
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  Speaker 2: For Brown too to talk about Vada Pump Rules Part
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  Speaker 2: two reunion. I got the Beautiful, the Amazing kid casey.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, First thing, I have to talk to you about
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  Speaker 3: your live show that you're coming to Orange County. I
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  Speaker 3: saw the clips of the last one. We're we're like
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  Speaker 3: singing and dan zinge. I've ever seen a show like it.
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  Speaker 3: So when you come to OC, I want the good
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  Speaker 3: people that are listening to this to make a special request.
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  Speaker 3: I think you and I should sing.
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  Speaker 4: A duet at your show. And the more over the
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  Speaker 4: top the better.
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  Speaker 3: Like maybe there's like some sort of like seventies or
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  Speaker 3: eighties like ridiculous duet, and we'll do that, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: we talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: When you come.
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  Speaker 3: They're on Pacific Coast Highway where the Oppenheim Group is
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  Speaker 3: where Selling the OOC is filmed. Within walking distance is
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  Speaker 3: also the Agency and the Altman Group, so we can
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  Speaker 3: hit all the real estate hotspots within walking distance. And
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  Speaker 3: I think Polly, Alex and Tyler should meet us out.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Look, honey, you had me at Alex and you
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  Speaker 2: had me at Polly and you had me at Tyler.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, Kate.
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  Speaker 2: Is my sister from another mister, because I am super
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with selling the OC. Yes, we'll talk about vat
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  Speaker 2: the porn rules later, but yeah, let's start if with
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  Speaker 2: selling the OC see really fast. Tyler is by far
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  Speaker 2: the most attractive man I have ever seen on Netflix.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: He agreed dropped it, Gordon. Alex is such good television.
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  Speaker 2: She's the fourth multiplier. I'm obsessed.
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  Speaker 1: And Polly, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: The haircut, the body, the outfits, the comedic timing her
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  Speaker 2: and Alex together, like that's the Paris and the Cold
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  Speaker 2: Simple Life spin off.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see, you know what it's like.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler is like Robert Redford and Alex Hall is like
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  Speaker 3: Jennifer Lopez. And that's why they didn't work out, because
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  Speaker 3: those are two totally different people, but they're both absolutely gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. No, So have you met Tyler in person?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Is he just as stunning as he is in Confessionals
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  Speaker 2: when the light hits his beautiful face?
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  Speaker 3: Stunning, Like he walks in and you're like a human
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  Speaker 3: being can be that attractive. But he's also really nice,
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  Speaker 3: just like a nice person. He's just a local person.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's like a simple guy. He was like a
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  Speaker 3: surfer and he works with his dad, and he's just
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  Speaker 3: a person that probably wakes up, go surfing, works and
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  Speaker 3: then surfs a little bit more. You know, he's not
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  Speaker 3: very flashy. Love that he's like down to earth. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he's made for reality TV. But he's made
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  Speaker 3: for modeling.
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  Speaker 1: Honey, He's made for me.
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  Speaker 2: So listen, rain drops, rain drops, please leave Polly, Alex
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  Speaker 2: and Tyler. No. When I come to the OC, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I may want them to be on the building of
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  Speaker 2: my podcast, my live podcast. Me and Kay Casey are
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  Speaker 2: gonna sing a song together. We may do dancing queens by.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Also, we could pretend that you're looking for a second
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  Speaker 3: home and have Tyler give us a tour.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we'll do.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's do that.
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  Speaker 4: Let's do that.
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  Speaker 1: Promise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're done. But I'm gonna wear a dumb outfit
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  Speaker 3: just to be part of the course.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but no rain drops.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't watched his selling, the OC is so
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  Speaker 2: oh fucking good. It's so real, this drama, it's so real,
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  Speaker 2: it's so good.
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  Speaker 1: Please please, if you missed out on it. Watch it.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm giving you guys my seal of approval, my stamp
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  Speaker 2: of approval.
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  Speaker 1: It's really good.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, one of the show you need to watch.
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  Speaker 3: And I know you said people have told you love
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  Speaker 3: undercover on Peacock And here's why. Because in this dating show,
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  Speaker 3: you've got American women who have been set up to
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  Speaker 3: believe that the show is about them not being able
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  Speaker 3: to find any American men. They've obviously like just gone
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  Speaker 3: through every man in America, and they're like, I need
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  Speaker 3: an international guy. So they introduce them to these five
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  Speaker 3: international men. But what they don't know is that all
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  Speaker 3: of these men are international soccer stars, but they're lying
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  Speaker 3: about what they do. So these women are like, he's
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  Speaker 3: kind of average, Like I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 3: go out with somebody in construction. But then they find
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  Speaker 3: out once they've been eliminated that the guy that they
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  Speaker 3: passed over on or whatever is actually like mega wealthy
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  Speaker 3: and successful and has like one point two million followers
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: And why is that funny? Because some of the.
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  Speaker 3: Girls are like, Hi, I'm Sophia, I'm twenty seven, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm an Instagram influencer. And then they show their numbers
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  Speaker 3: and it's like fifty thousand. It's like, not even that much.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just looking for a guy that can elevate the
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  Speaker 3: kind of lifestyle that I deserve. And you're like, what,
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  Speaker 3: But all the guys get along great, and it's they're
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  Speaker 3: all so funny. So it's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I'm watching that today.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good because I need to watch something good because
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  Speaker 2: I do feel like we are at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the road for Van the Pump Rules just based on
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  Speaker 2: Part two reunion. Part three is next week. I'm putting
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  Speaker 2: Kate on the spy k will you recap part three
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  Speaker 2: with me?
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  Speaker 4: To end this with that question done? Totally? Okay, let
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  Speaker 4: me just say this too.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're at the end of the period of
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  Speaker 3: time where networks were just relying on old IP. They
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  Speaker 3: weren't making risky moves because they were trying to get,
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  Speaker 3: you know, get the money back from COVID. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that period of time is ending. We're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: like new, fresh stuff and that that's why I like
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  Speaker 3: Love Undercover. It's like a new concept and new people.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why The Valley's successful too, is because new
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  Speaker 3: people like, we're so aren't you sick of vander Pump
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  Speaker 3: Rules people?
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  Speaker 2: Well, honey, that's what we have to talk about, because look,
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  Speaker 2: I found myself and I'm being very honest.
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  Speaker 1: I knew that I.
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  Speaker 2: Would be talking to Kate about this, and I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to of course wrap out down the Pump Rules because
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, this show was done. Put a fork
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  Speaker 2: in her. She's cooked, baby, because she's done. For all
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  Speaker 2: I am concerned. So I felt like it was a
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  Speaker 2: job watching this episode Part two Reunion of Pump Rules,
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  Speaker 2: and I Kay, I was like, I just don't give
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  Speaker 2: a fuck. I just I just didn't care. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: care what was going on. And the biggest thing for
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  Speaker 2: me was like even seeing La La versus Katie, it
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  Speaker 2: was sort of like, okay, Katie was talking shit about
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  Speaker 2: Arianna and I don't know, and then Arianna sit there
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  Speaker 2: she didn't care, So I was like, well, why do
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  Speaker 2: I care? And for me, it was like everybody was
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  Speaker 2: checked out except La La. I think Laala was like
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  Speaker 2: I am trying to keep this train moving. And Laala
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  Speaker 2: gave a great performance. You know, she literally was Charlie's
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  Speaker 2: theron in yeah yeah, you know, like she gave her
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  Speaker 2: Best Acting performance that won an Oscar.
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  Speaker 3: Best Performance in a Reunion, Part two of a Show
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  Speaker 3: That's about to Die. Okay, we I mentioned it to
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  Speaker 3: you and you said you had just watched it too.
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  Speaker 4: There's so many parallels to this.
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  Speaker 3: In the twenty twelve thirty for thirty which is now
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  Speaker 3: on Netflix.
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  Speaker 4: It's called Broke.
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  Speaker 3: It's directed by Billy Corbyn, and it's about how all
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  Speaker 3: these professional athletes go bankrupt. And I was always watching
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  Speaker 3: it thinking, Arianna is the professional athlete that's already set
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  Speaker 3: up with a full team. She's got it all set up,
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  Speaker 3: so she's got some backup projects, and that's why she's
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  Speaker 3: such a great communicator and calm throughout the reunion. She's
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  Speaker 3: already like set up that boundary, like okay, because she's
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  Speaker 3: got a full team ready for her. But Lala is
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  Speaker 3: like the athlete who is about to blow out her
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  Speaker 3: knee and has already spent most of her money and
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  Speaker 3: may may or may not have a gambling problem, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it's like she's like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, how am I going to make up all
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  Speaker 3: this money that I just spent. It's like it just
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  Speaker 3: seemed like so much like that, and how like professional
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  Speaker 3: athletes and reality stars operate are so similar because like
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  Speaker 3: in the moment, they think it's gonna last forever. Like
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  Speaker 3: some of the prof like the football players and NBA players,
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  Speaker 3: they get out of college or maybe they're recruited right
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  Speaker 3: from high school and they're given a ton of money
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  Speaker 3: and they think all the opportunities are going to last forever.
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  Speaker 3: And reality stars are like that too, like they hit.
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  Speaker 3: They're on a big hit. I mean, like this show
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  Speaker 3: is going to be forever, and then I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 3: asked to be on all these other shows. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a television star and then I'm gonna move into movies
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  Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna become a business mogul like Jennifer
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  Speaker 3: Lopez or whomever. And it's just not reality and you
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  Speaker 3: need somebody who is really looking out for your best
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  Speaker 3: interest to go. You gotta have a backup plan.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why.
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  Speaker 3: Arianna is successful is because I think she made a
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  Speaker 3: decision before she probably even went into filming this season,
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  Speaker 3: like okay, I need a backup plan, And the others
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  Speaker 3: were like, now that this is such a big hit
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  Speaker 3: because everyone's writing about it, we've just secured five more seasons.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the crackup is in the episode three, which
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  Speaker 3: I think we're going to see soon, you know, within
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  Speaker 3: a week, is that they waited to show them the
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  Speaker 3: last part, which really does reveal to them unless they're Dinglings,
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  Speaker 3: then it is the end of the road and they're like,
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  Speaker 3: oh shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, no, I could not agree more.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, give it up a Kksey guys round
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  Speaker 2: of applause because you comparing this caz of pump rolls
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  Speaker 2: to thirty for thirty Broke edition.
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  Speaker 3: Remember remember I said, Derek Cheat the captain, like you
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  Speaker 3: should have retired Kandy Burriws.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, guess what. Guess what? She left the show a
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  Speaker 1: year after you said that. Kay Casey on the Case
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  Speaker 1: got it.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out Kate, like, why am
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  Speaker 2: I so disconnected watching this for you?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt nothing.
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  Speaker 2: You hit the knail on the head as you sort
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  Speaker 2: of dissected.
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  Speaker 1: Like Carlos, what was going on? Is this Arianna already
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  Speaker 1: secured her position.
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  Speaker 2: She has all of these other endorsements, she has all
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  Speaker 2: these other opportunities, and she doesn't feel the need to
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  Speaker 2: save the show. And what we saw in the preview
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  Speaker 2: to next week's episode. The finale of the show was
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  Speaker 2: when she cried to Santa Vala said, I just.
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  Speaker 1: Want you gone.
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  Speaker 2: What that means like she doesn't want to do the
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  Speaker 2: show anymore. She's like, I'm over it because they're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna fire Sandoval because he's great television and they don't
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  Speaker 2: want it to appear that where we fire the guy
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  Speaker 2: because he no longer is with this woman. And she
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  Speaker 2: knows that I can't continue on the show anymore if
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  Speaker 2: he's still there. So she is checked out, and you're right,
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  Speaker 2: and La LA's like, way, bitches, I didn't make that
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  Speaker 2: much money off of the scinded darl t shirts and
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  Speaker 2: sweatshirts and pamphlets and bumper stickers. So I have a
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  Speaker 2: new lease on life with my new lease in the valley,
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  Speaker 2: and I have shit to pay for it with my
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  Speaker 2: new baby.
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  Speaker 3: You baby, and I think like they have these new
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  Speaker 3: homes and then like also in the part and broke,
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  Speaker 3: remember the one. I think it was Evander Hollerfield Hollafield.
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  Speaker 4: It was a Vander who said it.
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  Speaker 3: One of them said, he said, at one point I
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  Speaker 3: was responsible for twenty five to fifty people, and now
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  Speaker 3: like they have too many people in their entourage. They're
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  Speaker 3: still like pain for relatives, like they should do a
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  Speaker 3: like a broke version for reality television. Yeah, and the
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  Speaker 3: aftermath of a TV opportunity when it all starts to
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  Speaker 3: slip away.
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  Speaker 2: When Brown said to Uk, I remember texting you, I
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  Speaker 2: had chills when she said, I don't know who I
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  Speaker 2: am without the cameras in my life. You were like
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  Speaker 2: that the best therapists that I've ever worked with.
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  Speaker 1: When you were like, don't say that, what do.
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  Speaker 4: You I will not allow you to say that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: So when it comes to this caz so we saw
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  Speaker 2: that Arianna Dick give a shit about Katie, you know,
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  Speaker 2: talking about about her behind her back. Then we see
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  Speaker 2: La La versus Arianna where La Lah mentioned that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she had an issue in the past with people being
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  Speaker 2: friends with her ex. So they were like, were you're
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  Speaker 2: contradicting herself because you were friends still with Sandoval. She
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  Speaker 2: said it was different because people her ex was trying
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  Speaker 2: to be friend, like Tom Schwartz for example, and she
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  Speaker 2: had a baby with and is different.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's really what the issue is. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's more layered than that. I think it's actually
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  Speaker 3: she's frustrated because she doesn't feel like people have accepted
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  Speaker 3: the new version of her. The Bravo audience still is
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  Speaker 3: angry about how how she acted and the things she
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  Speaker 3: did in the first couple of seasons. Bravo audience is,
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  Speaker 3: as you know, very observant. It's hard for them to
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  Speaker 3: forgive people. And so the audience is a lot of
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  Speaker 3: women who are between the ages of like twenty five
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  Speaker 3: to maybe like fifty five sixty, and so I think
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  Speaker 3: that a lot of them can't get past the fact
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  Speaker 3: that Lala in the beginning of the show would talk
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  Speaker 3: about like well like body seaming the other women and saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's not my fault you don't have good
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  Speaker 3: enough tits to ride in a private jet. I just
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  Speaker 3: think that the female audience ever would be able to
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  Speaker 3: forgive that move past that. And I think Laala is
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  Speaker 3: frustrated because she's like, but I've proven myself well over
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  Speaker 3: and over again to have grown up from that experience.
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  Speaker 3: I was wrong by this man. I'm a mother now
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be a mother again. But I just
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  Speaker 3: think the audience will never get past it. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what I think she's frustrated when she's like, it's not
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  Speaker 3: the same. It's not so much about the like the
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  Speaker 3: boundaries and you can be friends. It's I think it's
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  Speaker 3: more like a fourth wall issue, like why don't you
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  Speaker 3: accept the person that I've grown into? And the audience
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  Speaker 3: is like, girl, we will never forget that you were
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  Speaker 3: with a married man, you know. I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: way that a lot of the viewers feel. They're just
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  Speaker 3: not very forgiving of it.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, the audience is your playback real yep, right, yep.
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  Speaker 2: The audience will remind you of every single thing you've
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  Speaker 2: ever done.
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  Speaker 1: And listen. That's not great because as.
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  Speaker 2: Humans, we do evolve and we absolutely and I think
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  Speaker 2: you have to give us grace to do that. But
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  Speaker 2: one thing I will say when it comes to reality
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  Speaker 2: stars is the.
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  Speaker 1: Fact that they're not given a lot of grace.
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  Speaker 4: No, totally, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the detriment of their future or even place
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  Speaker 2: on the show. And I think we're seeing that with
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  Speaker 2: this cast in the sense of listen, rightfully, so, they're older.
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  Speaker 2: When you're when you're older in California, especially in LA
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  Speaker 2: you do move to the valley or you move to
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  Speaker 2: the OC like you're you're you move to the much
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  Speaker 2: more suburban lifestyle because you're not partying until five o'clock
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  Speaker 2: in the morning when you have children. No, So I
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  Speaker 2: think La la frustration does come from the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she possibly is a changed woman, but the audience isn't.
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  Speaker 4: Going to It's like arrested development.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're like, well, no, I will never not
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  Speaker 3: see you as that person who was shaming them for
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  Speaker 3: their summer bodies. Remember, the audience is mostly female, and
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  Speaker 3: they probably have summer bodies because they've had children and
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  Speaker 3: they're getting older, and it's just interesting they will not
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And it's interesting too because here she's a mother now
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: and she's made this decision to have another child, and
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: it is kind of an interesting, empowering story to do
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: that on your own. But somehow it's still interesting. Like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I think she's frustrated that they're not more interested in
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: that journey that she's having. But I really do think
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: it's because they can't get past her origin story.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Do you think if she was on another show with
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a different title, possibly.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: If she was on Real Housewives at Beverly Hills and
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: she had begun the show as like the mistress and
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: then evolved into like a relationship that the mistress into
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a marriage or marriage adjacent with a child, and then
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: decided I want to have a baby on my own.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I think it would have been much better received. But
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Vanner Pump Rules is a show that's based on people
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: who make poor life decisions. So she's acting the audience
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to embrace her like a real housewife story on a
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: show that's not really set up to have those expectations.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Am I wrong?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: No?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I never looked at it that way.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I never look You're on a show where the conceit
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: of the show was we are young, twenty something, hopeful
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: of making it in the industry.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: We fuck each other, we go on benders in Vegas.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah we we we do whatever.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And we're wild, young and free, and that's what the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: audience bomp into. So as you're evolving into a mother
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: of now too, the audience isn't receiving that because the
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: conceit of the show isn't that. However, if you were
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on Real Housewives and you are right, there's more grace.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: There's like, you know, the wild young housewife. Let's like
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Porsche for example, office being a step for wife. Then
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: she was young while single woman who called herself bot Landia,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you know, and they sort of embraced them.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: And she comes back and she's gotten a divorce from
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: this guy who's like mega rich, they'll still embrace her
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: because the structure of the show is set up that
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: way to watch a woman in the ebbs and flows,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: because you usually see them over a period of time
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: where you meet their children and their mother and all
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: these things. And the only access we really had to
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Lala in the beginning was to like, well, first of all,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: she was super secretive about her relationship with Randall, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: then we kind of met Randall, but we're not really
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: seeing Lala's full life in the way you do as
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: a real housewife. And I just really think too that
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I think the audience never really accepted that she was
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: part of the friend group. She always felt like a
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: little bit of an outsider. Like I know that myself.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm never feeling like that's a real friendship that she
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: had between Ariana or with Arianna or with Katie or
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: maybe was Sheena a bit because their their kids are friends,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and that definitely does bond you with your children are friends.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: But I always felt like she was higher because she
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: was so attractive and she was at the restaurant, but
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: it was kind of like trying to make it all
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: kind of makes sense, and I just shews felt like
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: an outsider, like I never bought that she would ever
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: spend time with Tom sand of all Tom Schwartz independently
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: off the show.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I think she was Listen, she was the quintessential beautiful blonde, yeah,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: in her early twenties like that, like the hot bombshell,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: right and listen, I don't think this is Shaye. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: actually love la La a lot. I think Laala was
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: that girl who knew how high she was, and I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: think she probably thought she was the star of the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: show for all of the things she had going for herself.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I think she also is frustrated because she was like
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I brought it, Yeah, you know, like you guys were
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: resting on your laurels and I'm like like forcing conversations
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: to happen.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I feel like Laala was.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think we all can kind of relate
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: to this as some aspect of her life. She was
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: like a real housewife of Beverly Hills before her time, you.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: They had aqual. Oh my god, this is the show
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: we're selling.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: This is it?
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Holy shit?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I just came up with, Oh my gosh, it was
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: she the original we're creating. The prequel to Real House
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: was The Beverly Hills, like the women who are between
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: twenty seven and thirty eight. Because the Beverly Hills show
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: is really, I think, in its stride when you have
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: women in their fifties or forties and maybe early fifties.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they don't give a fuck.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care, and that's why I love them too.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: But like a show that's more about the twenty eight
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: to thirty eight and that's where Lalla exists.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: That's her sweet spot.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I listen.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry my mind went towards the prequel because I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: want to see, like the young de.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Read I do too.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Who is show? Yes, Laala is the young Dereat.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: To me, No, she's not.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: No, the young Derea the prequel story of Deree She
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: lived in New York City because my friend was her trainer.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: That's interesting, Like who was Dereit when she was in
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: New York City trying to like work her way in
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the fashion industry. If I were at networking executive at Bravo,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: and Lord knows I would wish I was.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: That's the show I want to watch.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Is the prequel to the Real Housewives of New York
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: and Beverly Hills.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: That's what I would do to create to maintain this momentum.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: That's what I would do.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Is there a future for a La La
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: on Bravo.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: If they create a show like that? She would be
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: great on that.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: But I feel like she needs to maybe take a
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: minute away, although that's not what she really wants to do.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: But I think she's going to be so much more
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: interesting when her kids are like between twelve and sixteen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: What is her story when those children are twelve to sixteen?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Who is she dating, who is she friends with? What
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: is she doing for a living? How what's her relationship
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: with the relatives that we're living with her right now?
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Like do they still live with her?
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Does she feel like she was taking a advantage of
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: by people during this period of time? Like I feel
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: like she's going to live Her life is going to
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: be very well lived, but all the faces of it
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: are really interesting. I just think I I knew who
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: she is right now, but it'll be even more interesting
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: if she kind of dips out for a minute and
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: then re emerges.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Imagine her parenting tweens and teenage girls. No, that would
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: be so funny.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: She's going to be so funny as a mom of
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: tweens and teenagers.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But that means her not being on the air for
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: like ten years.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: She's no, no, no, no, she said no, she's in her
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: early Oh yeah, you're right, because her kids are really
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: but you know what, the I'm okay with that, like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: okay going off there. I'm just saying I think that
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: story is going to be really interesting.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, no, I actually agree with you. I agree with you.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I want to see the evolution of La La and listen,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: could she start on a show called La LA's Land?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Kay, Casey, I don't.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Think anybody on Banner Pump Rules right now needs to
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: spin off. I don't think enough. I don't think there's
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: enough story there. And they're too soon after the show.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: It's hard for them to like see that as they're
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a therapist from afar because they're they're so caught up
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: in like I have to keep it going because because
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: once I'm off there, I'm more irrelevant. But I'm telling
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: you their lives are going to be so much more
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: interesting if they take a minute.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know, yes, now, well should have taken
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a minute, but it took a long time. Was the
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: revelation of how Joe really felt when she learned that
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Shorts was pretty much putting her in the friends zone
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: when she thought they were.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: You know what that's about, sorry, that's about Joe having
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: little taste of reality TV. She's like a hairdresser and
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: she's been hanging out with these people on the sidelines
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: and she's like, I want to be on the TV
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: show so bad. And that's true because she's on social
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: media all the time during the Instagram Lives, like really
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: excited to answer people's questions. She doesn't give a shit
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: about Schwartz. She cares about being on a TV show.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Are you wait? I didn't know this? What does that get?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So Joe is on ig lives.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Like almost every other day answering people's question yes, yes,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: don't get like, don't think this is anything other than that.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Like Shorts is like, you're annoyance, stop talking about me.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: He actually has said that, stop Like I'm not kidding.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: He's like, you're not on our show Goodbye.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was like, oh my god, she's crying.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: No, she's crying. She wants me on the show. Wait
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: until she finds out the show's ending. Oh my god,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I want video of that. That's like finding like that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: like getting a job at a company and thinking that
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you're going to work your way up and then you
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: find out the company went bankrupt and you're like, oh shit.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: So I'm a fool because when she was crying saying
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the whole thing about she was kept a secret for
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: a year and Tom Schartz, but.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sure she was because he was like, oh my god.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: The evolution media is like this girl is not interesting, Like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: don't bring her in fold. I don't know, like I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: know she's like really loves being a reality TV on
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: a reality show.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: If y'all can see my face right now, I am
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: in shock. I'm like the Homer Simpson meme where he's like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: folly back to the bushes because I feel like such
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a fool because I was falling for the tears when
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: she was like, can you gotta to stop it?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And Tom Schwartz was like, I got this new girl.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So Sophia, who's like, very hot, but that's not why
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: she's hot. She's hot cause she's sweet.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Like that's why Katie was like, what, I'm not apologizing
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to you, Like you're so irrelevant, get off this, And
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that's why everyone was like why are you here? And
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: then Ali is interesting to me because I don't see
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: the chemistry between she and James, like i'd be interested
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: once the show goes off if they stay together.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I feel empathy for James.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like he's really investing in someone
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: who is not totally on the same page.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually agree with you.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's into him the way he's into.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Her, and she kind of like makes fun of him,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: like the one scene it was like a couple episodes
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: where she said he picks out all my outfits, like
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: she's mocking him a little bit, Like I don't know
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: why he's so into me. I'm never gonna get married.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I don't even like him. I'm like, you moved into
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: his house in Burbank, Like what do you what? Yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: it's hard to have empathy for the vander Pump people,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: but I have empathy for James because I feel like
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: he's being a little bit being boozled.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Well, is that the reason why his anger is so
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: directed at Sandaval because it's a displaced anger because of
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: what's going on at home, Because I'm not unders.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Thinking, like displaced anger is always having to do with
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: fourth wall stuff like why are you getting more opportunities?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: You're getting more attention? How many times have you been
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: on Watch What Happens Live? Like that's all that kind
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: of stuff. I'm like, I, by the way, I've displaced
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: anger too. I've never been on Watch What Happens Live?
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Get you on a fire Listen.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I'm screaming because what the audience doesn't know is this
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the reality starts off Bravo. They count how many times
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: what your castmates were featured on Watch What Appens Live?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: If it's more than that they actually count, is they
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: keep a tally?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: So the fact that cakes like Jesus saying, why does
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: sat the Ball get la times feature?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Why is it live?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: But you know what the jokes on everybody because you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: of all those cast members, I think James is the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: smartest one because he actually is like going to probably
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: make so much money as a DJ, Like I'm not
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: worried about him financially.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I think he's actually gonna be all right.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: But you know what's missing, though, Kate, what's that they want?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: The cameras, Holly d have potential to really be what
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you're saying like is humor is like.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I think jas he's making a lot of money though
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: poly d' is making a lot of.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Money, So James has the potential.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: First, I'm not worried about him.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Who are you worried about?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not worried about James. I'm not worried about Arianna.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I'm worried about everybody else. Why because I think they're
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: they're going to be panicked about, like where do I
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: go from here? It's really hard, Like they put their
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: lives totally into this show for so long, and you
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: got to have a backup plan and I don't know
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: what do you? What are you going to do? You
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: get a job at a bank, you're an host? Tate
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: like wait tables been working in an amusement.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Park and they've done that.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, Sienah does like a lot of like YouTube stuff.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: But I do think that there's a panic because I
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: will not say it is, but I heard a story
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: a producer tell me about a Bravo star and how
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: they are only on the show that they're on because
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: they need to do Amazon Lives because they make so
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: much money doing it, and as soon as they're off
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: the show, they're not gonna make much money on it
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: because the Amazon Lives are where they drop information like
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: inside info. The fact that Bravo is not picking up
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: on this and like putting a kabash is unteresting to me.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Well you just rebuilding now, Kate, so not being.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I know, well maybe not and they don't care about me.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: But one thing I heard once heard was like Kanye
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: would go on the Kardashians to sell the merchandise because
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: that's how he could move it. Because the truth is
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: when you go on a show, it puts you top
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: of mind. Then people going to your like socials. He
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: needed to go on the Kardashians to sell all the
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: shoes and all of that stuff. So a lot of
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I think a lot are doing the show because they
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: know that they're relying on the show for many reasons,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: which include their own egos but also the success of
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: the ancillary businesses are relying on them being on the show.
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