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- 0:02Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Darren.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Welcome inside to the Alex Garrett podcast Network. And today
- 0:10Speaker 2: is ADA thirty four, thirty four years since the Americans
- 0:14Speaker 2: with Disabilities Act. We'll be dropping a couple episodes today,
- 0:17Speaker 2: one on sports and disability as well as the Viscardi voices.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Voices of Viscardi's what I'll title that one. But here
- 0:26Speaker 2: in the sports section, let's start with Anthony Fitzgerald, the
- 0:31Speaker 2: mastermind behind the wheelchair softball events tonight at Eisenhower Park
- 0:38Speaker 2: for ADA thirty four Americans with Disabilities Act turns thirty four,
- 0:43Speaker 2: and here's how Anthony Fitzgerald is empowering not only adaptive athletes,
- 0:48Speaker 2: but anybody with a disability through sports.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Oh, without question, without question, it's one of our mantras.
- 0:58Speaker 3: When we're at at our shed in Eisenhower Park for
- 1:03Speaker 3: the wheelchair softball team, we're getting people who are recently
- 1:06Speaker 3: injured trying hand cycling. In other words, our motto is
- 1:11Speaker 3: we're changing lives, one adaptive sport at the time.
- 1:16Speaker 4: I love that Montretina. I've one adaptive sport at a time.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Adam Viscarti does an amazing job.
- 1:22Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:22Speaker 4: I've had Joe on before with the Wilter basketball program
- 1:25Speaker 4: with all the different things they do. Are you involved
- 1:28Speaker 4: with Viscardi too or are you just friends with us?
- 1:31Speaker 1: Like do you do?
- 1:31Speaker 4: You used to have involvement there as well?
- 1:34Speaker 1: Well.
- 1:34Speaker 3: I used to have a work relationship with I was
- 1:38Speaker 3: the liaison to the Viscardi Center as a representative of
- 1:43Speaker 3: New York State and then I was fortunate enough to
- 1:45Speaker 3: be invited down for Sports Night, and I you know,
- 1:49Speaker 3: I have helped out. I've helped Joe a little bit
- 1:51Speaker 3: in the past. I've been a referee for basketball and
- 1:54Speaker 3: things like that. But I'm a big supporter and friend
- 1:58Speaker 3: of the of the Center, no.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Doubt, absolutely, and I miss everybody. I love it they're
- 2:02Speaker 4: able to do the hybrid. I guess they're Monday, Wednesday,
- 2:06Speaker 4: you know, Thursday or something like that, which is great.
- 2:08Speaker 4: I mean that's you know, you got to like these
- 2:11Speaker 4: kids out of the house, right, So I'm glad they're
- 2:13Speaker 4: able to do that for Viscardi in a safe way.
- 2:17Speaker 4: And then yet with your work, I do want to
- 2:19Speaker 4: touch on that for a minute, because you are trying
- 2:21Speaker 4: to help people adapt to speech and whatnot, So you're
- 2:25Speaker 4: vocational counselor if you want to talk about that for ABD.
- 2:28Speaker 4: I'd love to hear your story on that too, of
- 2:30Speaker 4: what you do there.
- 2:31Speaker 3: Well, you know, yeah, and this ties into the bigger
- 2:34Speaker 3: picture of life. Right. You want balance in your life,
- 2:38Speaker 3: your work, your home life. And you know, work is
- 2:46Speaker 3: not just about work. It's about having purpose, about being
- 2:50Speaker 3: a productive, contributing member to society. Right, That's who we are.
- 2:56Speaker 3: So I've recently just retired, and you know, I'm jokingly thinking,
- 3:01Speaker 3: you know, I want to I want to become a
- 3:03Speaker 3: purpose fulfillment center because there's you can help people with
- 3:07Speaker 3: disabilities go to work, and that's what I do. I
- 3:10Speaker 3: would prefer to help them fund their careers, but I
- 3:13Speaker 3: would love to help them fund their purpose and their
- 3:15Speaker 3: meaning in life. And that is a much bigger picture
- 3:19Speaker 3: and encompasses you know, a lot more. And when you know,
- 3:23Speaker 3: when people talk about I just want to make a
- 3:25Speaker 3: living or it's my livelihood, that really demonstrates the importance
- 3:32Speaker 3: of work as a part of life. So when you
- 3:35Speaker 3: cut work out by studying down the economy, which I
- 3:38Speaker 3: understand why and why we did it and everything else,
- 3:41Speaker 3: but you're really impacting people in a very you know,
- 3:46Speaker 3: severe way that can have profound long term effects.
- 3:50Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I'm sure you've changed many lives as a counselor. Hey,
- 3:54Speaker 4: because I also love to talk about the news, and
- 3:56Speaker 4: I know you do too. You've been posting a lot
- 3:59Speaker 4: about the news lead everything. I gotta ask Ammy, Cody
- 4:02Speaker 4: Barrett is probably going to be confirmed today. How big
- 4:06Speaker 4: of a role does is Supreme Court play in the
- 4:08Speaker 4: disabled community? Do they help us at all?
- 4:14Speaker 3: You know? Of course, of course they help us. You know,
- 4:19Speaker 3: the ADA just had a big anniversary, right and we
- 4:25Speaker 3: just you know, what do we I think we just
- 4:27Speaker 3: hit thirty years, right, So yeah, the legal system is
- 4:32Speaker 3: very important for defending the civil rights law, which is
- 4:37Speaker 3: what a DA basically is to help people with disabilities
- 4:41Speaker 3: in all aspects of their like life, right from access
- 4:45Speaker 3: to you know, access to government, access to private facilities,
- 4:50Speaker 3: access to employment, access to transportation. I'm proud to say
- 4:54Speaker 3: that right across the street from where I lived, the
- 4:57Speaker 3: Long Island Railroad station here in Florida Park is about
- 5:00Speaker 3: to have two brand new elevators completed. And that makes
- 5:05Speaker 3: Manhattan just a hop, skip and a jump away from me.
- 5:08Speaker 4: That is so awesome. And by the way, with the ADA,
- 5:11Speaker 4: I always advise people don't. I don't know. Maybe you
- 5:15Speaker 4: get it, it's the term, but I don't like it.
- 5:17Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes people might use it to weaponize business.
- 5:20Speaker 4: I don't like that either.
- 5:21Speaker 1: So there's got to be a balance.
- 5:22Speaker 4: What did you say, like you.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Gotta be oh, yeah, no, of course, of course. And
- 5:29Speaker 3: that's you know that that's the beauty of a universal
- 5:33Speaker 3: design or a universal approach. We're not we we the
- 5:38Speaker 3: disabled market or individuals disabilities. We are consumers and people
- 5:44Speaker 3: want us to have access. So it's good for the economy,
- 5:49Speaker 3: it's good for everyone. It's you know, it's almost an
- 5:53Speaker 3: insurance policy for society because one day, either someone you
- 5:58Speaker 3: know or love will be injured or you yourself will
- 6:00Speaker 3: age to the point where you need more accessible a
- 6:05Speaker 3: more accessible environment. Right. So yeah, but at the same time,
- 6:10Speaker 3: we can't we can't, you know, excuse the pun, cut
- 6:14Speaker 3: the legs out from small businesses and have them incur
- 6:18Speaker 3: large expenses. But you know, the average reasonable accommodation is
- 6:22Speaker 3: under like three hundred dollars, so we're not going to
- 6:24Speaker 3: really put anyone out. And the demand on larger corporations
- 6:30Speaker 3: is exactly mean that, it's it's commensurate with the size
- 6:34Speaker 3: of the corporation. So the bigger they are, yes, the
- 6:37Speaker 3: more the demands the ADA makeup on them to make
- 6:40Speaker 3: everything fair and level the playing field.
- 6:44Speaker 4: One other thing, and I think adaptation As I'm talking
- 6:47Speaker 4: about this, I feel like we all have to work
- 6:50Speaker 4: to smash stigmas because there are those that still exists
- 6:53Speaker 4: out there. So I would say adapting even to the
- 6:57Speaker 4: environment around you, isn't that going to help you smash
- 6:59Speaker 4: stigmas because it'll help you get more involved, more with
- 7:02Speaker 4: the able body community or whatnot.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, when I think of stigmas,
- 7:12Speaker 3: they're definitely still out there, and it's our duty and
- 7:16Speaker 3: responsibility to crush them as best we cand. Words are powerful, right,
- 7:24Speaker 3: I think Victor Khalisi, the Commissioner, recently wrote a good
- 7:28Speaker 3: article talking about the power of words and how important
- 7:32Speaker 3: it is to use the right words. So yeah, I
- 7:37Speaker 3: mean amongst ourselves on the team, on the sports team,
- 7:42Speaker 3: we use some kind of off color humor to make
- 7:46Speaker 3: to add levity to the situation, to make us laugh
- 7:49Speaker 3: a little bit at ourselves and our disabilities, which makes
- 7:53Speaker 3: that cross a little easier to bear and to carry
- 7:55Speaker 3: when you can laugh at it. Even if it's for
- 7:58Speaker 3: a split second. So but we make sure we're careful
- 8:02Speaker 3: around other people, you know, when we're around able bodied
- 8:05Speaker 3: or not just disabled, not to use those kind of
- 8:07Speaker 3: jokes because we don't want them to think it's okay
- 8:09Speaker 3: or commonplace very true by the world be a better place.
- 8:18Speaker 4: And but no, it's true, you know. And that's the
- 8:20Speaker 4: thing about the community is that we joke around with
- 8:22Speaker 4: each other. I think people who are on the outside
- 8:25Speaker 4: looking and don't realize that or don't think, well, hey,
- 8:28Speaker 4: sometimes I feel like I don't think we have humor
- 8:30Speaker 4: unless we talk to them, and b it's just like
- 8:33Speaker 4: they really don't know the internal of the community that
- 8:35Speaker 4: we all bust each other's tops anyway.
- 8:37Speaker 3: So there's it's just very therapeutic, ball breaking.
- 8:44Speaker 4: I love it, Anthony Well and actually this Tiitans was
- 8:48Speaker 4: another thing I talked about yesterday, is that for me,
- 8:51Speaker 4: when I see someone look at me, I don't care,
- 8:53Speaker 4: but I just see that it's like I gotta say
- 8:55Speaker 4: hi or they're going to think I'm like just a
- 8:57Speaker 4: robot on wheels. That's my mentalities. So I don't know,
- 9:01Speaker 4: I just feel like saying hi to people is very important.
- 9:04Speaker 4: If you have a different thing than than most people.
- 9:08Speaker 4: One last thing though, one thing that people don't know
- 9:11Speaker 4: about you, Anthony Fitzgerald.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Yeah, you stay hi to people. I mean, right, there
- 9:16Speaker 3: used to be a stereotype about New Yorkers where we
- 9:18Speaker 3: were not that friendly or we don't say hi. I
- 9:20Speaker 3: go out of my way to say hi to people.
- 9:22Speaker 3: You're right, because sometimes they just stare at us, like,
- 9:25Speaker 3: you know, wow, you're in a wheelchair, what's up? And
- 9:27Speaker 3: I just smile and I say you're doing it and immediately,
- 9:30Speaker 3: and I want them to know that I'm a person.
- 9:32Speaker 4: You know, I'm not just some robot on wheels.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I'm a person that.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Talks to people, you know.
- 9:36Speaker 4: So that's kind of why I do it too.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Yeah, but your form of locomotion through New York City
- 9:41Speaker 3: must get a lot of a lot of looks where
- 9:44Speaker 3: you use your don't use your crutch tips with a
- 9:46Speaker 3: rollerblade one, right?
- 9:48Speaker 4: Yeah, I still do. And by the way, I've learned
- 9:51Speaker 4: to actually lift up my wheel or crutches and just
- 9:54Speaker 4: roll on one leg. I mean, the balancing is just fun.
- 9:57Speaker 4: I don't know how I started to do that, but
- 9:58Speaker 4: I just do at now for multiple blocks. Let's see
- 10:02Speaker 4: my crutches and.
- 10:03Speaker 3: You well, you know that's that's that, that's great training
- 10:06Speaker 3: for sled hockey, and that we're gonna recruit you guys.
- 10:10Speaker 4: They've been trying to get me do my listeners. They've
- 10:12Speaker 4: been trying to do this for years. It's happening again.
- 10:14Speaker 4: That's okay. Uh, I want to do it though, I
- 10:17Speaker 4: want to.
- 10:17Speaker 1: I want to.
- 10:18Speaker 3: I'm bringing you in, Alex, I'm bringing you in now.
- 10:21Speaker 3: As far as what you want to know, one last
- 10:23Speaker 3: thing about me that's unique, Well that.
- 10:26Speaker 4: Yeah, that no one knows about though, that that that
- 10:27Speaker 4: you've not told that anybody, but you'd want to reveal
- 10:30Speaker 4: on this podcast.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Uh hm, wow, you're really hmm oh, I'm an aspiring
- 10:41Speaker 3: guitar player more like a hack. How's that?
- 10:46Speaker 2: Well, let us know when you're gonna play, man, and
- 10:48Speaker 2: I'll come out and support that too.
- 10:50Speaker 4: It's good that you have all these Uh.
- 10:53Speaker 3: If you just got it something better. My my my
- 10:55Speaker 3: bucket list dream is to sing the national anthem before
- 10:59Speaker 3: and I own your game. There you go.
- 11:02Speaker 2: That's a little bit from Anthony Fitzgerald and again tonight
- 11:05Speaker 2: five thirty, the Ada Softball game will take place at
- 11:09Speaker 2: Eisenhower Park. Now, how about accessibility at the ballpark or arena.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Well.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Friendly like Me is a great outlet, and we've been
- 11:18Speaker 2: in contact about doing more work together. But here's our
- 11:21Speaker 2: first conversation where Friendly like Me talks to me about
- 11:27Speaker 2: how they are improving accessibility throughout all our stadiums and
- 11:32Speaker 2: arenas across the country. You know the ADA Act, that's
- 11:35Speaker 2: thirty plus years ago. We can't just rest on that
- 11:38Speaker 2: from thirty years ago.
- 11:39Speaker 6: We can't.
- 11:40Speaker 7: We can't, and there are a lot of people, of course,
- 11:43Speaker 7: you know, working to improve that, but you know, the
- 11:46Speaker 7: government moves slow and enforcement doesn't exist. And that's kind
- 11:50Speaker 7: of why we think that by helping to bypass that
- 11:55Speaker 7: would be getting companies to want to be more accessible, right,
- 11:59Speaker 7: to see that if they spend a dollar, they're going
- 12:01Speaker 7: to earn five, and to start promoting that. I think
- 12:06Speaker 7: Dave was saying on a game he watched last night,
- 12:09Speaker 7: right right before the game, they did, you know, sixty
- 12:13Speaker 7: seconds on Culture City, which has got the sensory bags
- 12:16Speaker 7: and is doing such incredible work.
- 12:19Speaker 6: I think that when.
- 12:21Speaker 7: More businesses, when we can convince more businesses that they
- 12:24Speaker 7: will make more money, it'll it'll be better than trying
- 12:28Speaker 7: to work enforcement do.
- 12:30Speaker 2: You guys follow renovations so like the clubs have undergone
- 12:33Speaker 2: renovations at Wrigley Feel and the Yankees continue to renovate
- 12:38Speaker 2: as well, and sometimes unfortunately it means taking away Ada seating,
- 12:42Speaker 2: which has happened in multiple ballparks. But do you follow
- 12:44Speaker 2: renovations in that kind of regard of Okay, how are
- 12:46Speaker 2: they protecting Ada seating after renovations?
- 12:51Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 12:51Speaker 7: Actually, you know, it's interesting because because when Yankee Stadium
- 12:55Speaker 7: was rebuilt in two thousand and nine, did you feel
- 12:58Speaker 7: like did you feel like they lost disability seating in.
- 13:02Speaker 2: That So, to be honest, I did not, and I
- 13:07Speaker 2: tell you there's still a lot more. But I know
- 13:08Speaker 2: over the years they've done more renovation to the stadium,
- 13:12Speaker 2: which has taken away some seating, and I think they've
- 13:14Speaker 2: tried to put it back elsewhere, but it has happened.
- 13:17Speaker 2: It's been documented that, yes, they took away some of
- 13:19Speaker 2: the seating, which which you know, all fairness, I do
- 13:23Speaker 2: have a connection to the Yankee so I will say
- 13:26Speaker 2: they are accessible. But when you hear that they took
- 13:28Speaker 2: away a few parts, it does it's a little disheartening,
- 13:31Speaker 2: you know.
- 13:32Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I think part of that is is also
- 13:34Speaker 7: showing the numbers right, and if people don't even know
- 13:38Speaker 7: you have accessible seating available, they may not use it.
- 13:41Speaker 6: They may not you may.
- 13:42Speaker 7: Not know right how important it is to you to
- 13:46Speaker 7: your bottom line. And I think that's the case that
- 13:48Speaker 7: we can make together, right, you know, I think part
- 13:51Speaker 7: of it with the disability movement is showing up with
- 13:54Speaker 7: a unified voice. You know, elements of elements of disability
- 14:00Speaker 7: and accessibility movements have you know, are often pretty fragmented
- 14:04Speaker 7: and and I think this is something that we can
- 14:06Speaker 7: kind of all agree on. It is that we want
- 14:08Speaker 7: to know before we go if we can, you know,
- 14:10Speaker 7: if we can fit or get in or enjoy it.
- 14:14Speaker 7: And we also want people to consider it when they're designing.
- 14:17Speaker 7: I mean, what I do know about the Yankees is
- 14:20Speaker 7: that they worked with the DOJ and other groups to
- 14:23Speaker 7: design for fans who are disabled in that revamp, and
- 14:26Speaker 7: they put together amazing They put together a really good
- 14:30Speaker 7: guide for guests with disabilities that's on the website.
- 14:34Speaker 6: And you know, even in that, you'll look.
- 14:36Speaker 7: At the stadium and it's not clear if there are
- 14:39Speaker 7: any seats that you know, with arms that come up
- 14:41Speaker 7: or down. And this is an example of how accessibility
- 14:45Speaker 7: is always evolving. You can't rest on the thirty year
- 14:48Speaker 7: old law. Now you need to think about are there
- 14:52Speaker 7: multiple ways for someone to get a ticket, voice enabled
- 14:55Speaker 7: ticket machines for someone that's low vision, or you know.
- 15:00Speaker 6: Putting in valley parking for people that maybe need to.
- 15:03Speaker 7: Walk a little bit less, better wayfinding, especially as technology evolves.
- 15:08Speaker 7: And I think that's the frustration that people with disabilities have,
- 15:12Speaker 7: is that these kinds of things are taken as only
- 15:15Speaker 7: when we're doing construction or only because we were told to.
- 15:19Speaker 7: But it's that ongoing work that makes a place really accessible,
- 15:24Speaker 7: an ongoing dissemination of information about that place to successibility
- 15:29Speaker 7: is a big part of that.
- 15:30Speaker 2: This section I would call Biffina and Baseball spine of
- 15:34Speaker 2: Biffina and Baseball because two of my friends, Derek who
- 15:38Speaker 2: has Derek's Bags and Danny Voyce have used baseball and
- 15:44Speaker 2: love baseball to get through the pain of their disability
- 15:47Speaker 2: and it's empowered them. We start with Danny voice, does
- 15:51Speaker 2: baseball help you take your mind off the pain if you.
- 15:54Speaker 8: Will in the past year or no?
- 16:01Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 16:02Speaker 8: Using all the metal are doing, you.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Know, because they're painful to watch, but at least it's
- 16:08Speaker 2: an outlet, and yeah, it is.
- 16:11Speaker 8: That's why I started. That's that's why I started watching
- 16:15Speaker 8: baseball a decade ago. Mister Helmie, Uh cope with what
- 16:22Speaker 8: I was dealing with that at the time, And after
- 16:26Speaker 8: I dealt with those issues, I was actually getting into
- 16:31Speaker 8: the into the game. So I cant watching pain three
- 16:39Speaker 8: watching but yeah, but in the past year or so,
- 16:52Speaker 8: I haven't when it really watched a lot of Facebook,
- 16:57Speaker 8: and especially this year because.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Of how Danny also gets his mind off things with
- 17:05Speaker 2: a lot of memes. I know, you're like a mean
- 17:07Speaker 2: king over there, Danny. You love your memes, that's for sure.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Yeah you can.
- 17:12Speaker 8: You can make for that.
- 17:13Speaker 2: And you two have some great back and forth.
- 17:15Speaker 1: So that's that's awesome.
- 17:17Speaker 2: And to that point, socialization going through this is so vital.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Isn't it.
- 17:24Speaker 8: Oh definitely, Like I mean, I.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Know Liz and you and Liz have kind of saved
- 17:30Speaker 2: each other from a lot, and that's a testament to
- 17:33Speaker 2: your friendship. But overall, socialization has really helped you get
- 17:37Speaker 2: through a lot of this.
- 17:40Speaker 6: And really have.
- 17:42Speaker 8: I would great spot to you is uh and and
- 17:50Speaker 8: a lot of other friends of mine and my family.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Of course, we haven't done a check in since his
- 17:58Speaker 2: passing really in this regard, But does Max way on
- 18:01Speaker 2: your mind every day because I feel like he weighs
- 18:03Speaker 2: on mind a lot, even if it's subconsciously. He's always
- 18:06Speaker 2: there with us, you know, the dude.
- 18:09Speaker 8: You know, Yeah, I can feel him, right, I always can.
- 18:15Speaker 8: I can always feel him around me, like I said here,
- 18:21Speaker 8: which is a good thing. When yeah, he was he.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Will always be a character. You know, he just said this.
- 18:30Speaker 2: He was one of the best storytellers. I gotta say.
- 18:32Speaker 6: He just told me. And the way he would facial
- 18:38Speaker 6: expressions and animation.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Missed that kid, And.
- 18:43Speaker 2: You know, we we live on in his memory.
- 18:46Speaker 1: And I think.
- 18:49Speaker 2: I think what he could also do just is to advocate, right,
- 18:52Speaker 2: So he was.
- 18:53Speaker 9: A big advocate, LF.
- 18:57Speaker 2: And I know you and I have had our parents
- 18:59Speaker 2: and things God for them sort advocating, but sometimes it's
- 19:02Speaker 2: up to us too.
- 19:03Speaker 1: I mean when I was in the hospital.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Danny, I was walking around asking for different supplies, yeah
- 19:10Speaker 2: that time. And I don't know if you found yourself
- 19:12Speaker 2: advocating that way when.
- 19:14Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, I have thank God for my mom because
- 19:20Speaker 8: she's my biggest advocator, cater. But over the years, I
- 19:28Speaker 8: uh started advocating for myself uh in the hospital setting.
- 19:35Speaker 8: So now I'm used to when my mom isn't there
- 19:41Speaker 8: in the hospital with me, I'm used to speaking up
- 19:45Speaker 8: for myself and saying, Hey, I need this, or Hey,
- 19:50Speaker 8: what's going on with whatever? What are we doing about
- 19:56Speaker 8: AB and C and all that.
- 19:58Speaker 2: I mean, the only way to have health is when
- 20:02Speaker 2: you're involved in your own help, right.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I think we've both been learning that a way.
- 20:07Speaker 2: And if I could just say, I feel like some
- 20:11Speaker 2: people are just letting the doctors tell them what to do.
- 20:15Speaker 2: I hate to say it that way, but it just
- 20:16Speaker 2: seems like they let them guide, which isn't bad, but
- 20:20Speaker 2: sometimes you can ask the question. It's not bad to
- 20:22Speaker 2: ask questions.
- 20:23Speaker 8: Of course, we should listen to hour doctors and nurses,
- 20:30Speaker 8: no nurses, because they are the ones that really take
- 20:33Speaker 8: care of them. But at the same time, we know
- 20:40Speaker 8: our bodies better than anyone else, so we need to
- 20:45Speaker 8: speak speak up when we know there is an issue.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Derek, I gotta go back to baseball though, because obviously
- 20:53Speaker 2: it's your sport, it's worked out you through and it's
- 20:58Speaker 2: there's such a baseball community out there.
- 21:00Speaker 4: How does that help you get through something like this.
- 21:04Speaker 9: Oh, it's all you can figure your step further. Baseball
- 21:09Speaker 9: it has always.
- 21:12Speaker 5: Gotten me through difficult things through my life, even since I.
- 21:19Speaker 6: Was okay, okay.
- 21:23Speaker 5: It whether you go to a game or you're watching
- 21:29Speaker 5: it on TV or listening to it on the radio,
- 21:32Speaker 5: for that now two and a half to two hours
- 21:38Speaker 5: forty five minutes, you don't You could just watch, listen, watch,
- 21:45Speaker 5: or listen to a game and you don't have to
- 21:48Speaker 5: you don't have to worry. You could just forget everything
- 21:53Speaker 5: that is bothering you for that for those two and
- 21:56Speaker 5: a half hours.
- 21:58Speaker 9: It is great. It's definitely great.
- 22:01Speaker 2: You know that that we're able to bring a unique
- 22:04Speaker 2: perspective to the REPBX community if you will and whatnot
- 22:08Speaker 2: because as adaptive athletes or people disabilities, I feel like
- 22:12Speaker 2: that brings a different perspective to these communities. So I
- 22:15Speaker 2: think it's pretty cool to be able to blend your
- 22:17Speaker 2: adaptability and your love of baseball and sports into one.
- 22:20Speaker 6: Wouldn't you say?
- 22:22Speaker 9: I agree? I I know.
- 22:26Speaker 5: I sometimes they think twice about posting on Twitter.
- 22:38Speaker 9: About like let's go Yankee, say let's go Yankees.
- 22:44Speaker 5: On a tweet or just sharing that like if I'm
- 22:49Speaker 5: at a Yankee game or something like that. But it's yeah,
- 22:54Speaker 5: it's it's great to blind to blend both things well because.
- 22:58Speaker 2: When you post about what you're going through right then
- 23:01Speaker 2: that educates people who don't have a disability.
- 23:05Speaker 10: Oh wow, okay, we.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Can learn from Derek and that is such a powerful
- 23:08Speaker 2: That's the best part of the platform is to be
- 23:10Speaker 2: able to educate through our pages.
- 23:13Speaker 5: Oh oh, I agree with you, and I know I haven't.
- 23:21Speaker 9: I know I haven't.
- 23:24Speaker 5: Spoken about spy spin and.
- 23:29Speaker 9: And having and having it and what it's like to
- 23:37Speaker 9: what's like day to day to have it.
- 23:40Speaker 5: Spin and BEA awareness month is in.
- 23:46Speaker 6: October, so.
- 23:51Speaker 5: I use I used to be like more a private person,
- 23:57Speaker 5: but I do.
- 23:59Speaker 9: Plan on sharing more of what it's like.
- 24:06Speaker 5: Personally to go what it's like day to day personally
- 24:11Speaker 5: two have spine, what it's like to have spine befal uh,
- 24:18Speaker 5: stuff like that, and going back to what I was
- 24:23Speaker 5: dealing starting to deal with back in December.
- 24:27Speaker 9: I have shared that a little bit as well, because
- 24:33Speaker 9: I think.
- 24:38Speaker 5: Not to sound full of my full of myself, but
- 24:41Speaker 5: uh there had I have posted on Twitter saying like, oh,
- 24:45Speaker 5: please be pro health because I don't want anybody going
- 24:53Speaker 5: through what I went through, because I think like for
- 25:01Speaker 5: a while I was beating myself up in the hospital
- 25:07Speaker 5: and then in nursing home, and then when I got
- 25:11Speaker 5: back home here, I was beating myself up because uh,
- 25:16Speaker 5: the wound that I had on my heel on that
- 25:21Speaker 5: last here that the plushing bacteria got in somehow. If
- 25:29Speaker 5: I got that treated soon, I feel like if I
- 25:32Speaker 5: got that treated sooner, I wouldn't be going through what
- 25:37Speaker 5: I'm going through. What I went through and what I'm
- 25:40Speaker 5: still going through by At the same time, I feel
- 25:43Speaker 5: like I should in a way, if I have the
- 25:47Speaker 5: platform that I have on Twitter and through the business,
- 25:51Speaker 5: I have to like warm like to warn people and
- 25:56Speaker 5: to kind of plead with people, take care of your
- 26:00Speaker 5: take care of yourselves, because I don't want people to
- 26:04Speaker 5: go through what I've gone through.
- 26:08Speaker 2: And if I.
- 26:10Speaker 5: Could just add it's I saw yesterday, I forget the
- 26:14Speaker 5: golfer's name.
- 26:15Speaker 9: I think the guy's name Jean Ram.
- 26:17Speaker 5: I saw that he had to pull out of the
- 26:19Speaker 5: US Open, I think because he had an infected foot,
- 26:24Speaker 5: and then like right away I saw that.
- 26:29Speaker 9: Once I saw that, I felt like I needed to
- 26:33Speaker 9: say something like.
- 26:34Speaker 5: Oh, please be pro health and just share a little
- 26:38Speaker 5: bit of what I went through.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Also wanted to play this for You with Jacob Barras.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Also wanted to air this for eighty eight a Jacob
- 26:47Speaker 2: Bereinger talking about not only being really an influencer in
- 26:51Speaker 2: the REPBX community, but also how he's adapted to do
- 26:55Speaker 2: his own challenges in life. Jacob, I see that you
- 26:57Speaker 2: have the Twitter and know Jacob Beak, so you like
- 27:02Speaker 2: to talk. I could tell would you ever do a podcast?
- 27:04Speaker 2: I mean, would you ever host one? Would you ever
- 27:06Speaker 2: want to incorporate your fan base through that as well?
- 27:10Speaker 11: Well, you know Jacob speaks it as a funny story
- 27:13Speaker 11: behind it. But as far as podcasting, I know inside
- 27:16Speaker 11: the Diamonds, they they've been kicking around the ideal idea
- 27:19Speaker 11: of putting out a podcast a couple times a week,
- 27:21Speaker 11: and I told them like, I'm not sure if I
- 27:23Speaker 11: would host it, but I'd be happy to come on
- 27:24Speaker 11: and join and give some you know, an analyst perspective
- 27:28Speaker 11: or whatever, or a Yankee fan's perspective on things. I'm
- 27:31Speaker 11: always happy to hop one and do that. The handle
- 27:34Speaker 11: actually came from me being a public speaker, but just
- 27:37Speaker 11: through my cancer survivorship story, and I've done a lot
- 27:41Speaker 11: of stuff with that, so just getting in front of
- 27:43Speaker 11: people telling my story, supporting different charity organizations. So whenever
- 27:48Speaker 11: I first started my Twitter account, it wasn't even going
- 27:50Speaker 11: to be a Yankee account. It was about me and
- 27:53Speaker 11: my public speaking and the PM was because it was
- 27:57Speaker 11: my job title at the time as a product man.
- 28:00Speaker 11: But I've kept it because now I just keep it
- 28:02Speaker 11: because I'm an insomniac. So it's just stuck throughout all
- 28:05Speaker 11: that time.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Well, tell us about that story, because obviously maybe people
- 28:09Speaker 2: might glance at your profile and see that, but maybe
- 28:12Speaker 2: they don't know the whole story.
- 28:13Speaker 1: So tell us about it.
- 28:14Speaker 2: If you don't mind.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Are you talking about the case?
- 28:18Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've had family members with I mean,
- 28:21Speaker 2: we've all had been impacted. But here you are surviving,
- 28:24Speaker 2: and tell us about your survival story.
- 28:26Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I could go into this for a
- 28:28Speaker 11: long time. So I'll give you the I'll give you
- 28:30Speaker 11: the cliff notes version. But well, so I'm going to
- 28:33Speaker 11: be sixteen years out coming out in May. So I
- 28:36Speaker 11: was eleven years old in two thousand and seven. I
- 28:40Speaker 11: was diagnosed on Halloween of that year. Was stage four
- 28:43Speaker 11: Burket's lamphoma. So it was an extremely rare form of
- 28:49Speaker 11: the disease, and you know, the prospects weren't good. The
- 28:53Speaker 11: prognosis wasn't very good, especially for me. So they did
- 28:56Speaker 11: a bit of an experimental treatment, gave me some experimental
- 28:58Speaker 11: drugs with a hit it's hard as they could, and
- 29:01Speaker 11: then by May of two.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Thousand and eight, I was cancer free.
- 29:07Speaker 11: And just to avoid going into all the gory, crazy
- 29:11Speaker 11: details of all that, I've always thought that, you know,
- 29:15Speaker 11: you think of a cancer diagnosis and you think of
- 29:17Speaker 11: something bad, you think of it as being a curse.
- 29:20Speaker 1: You know why am I cursed with this? Well, I had.
- 29:23Speaker 11: Never thought of it that way, because at eleven years old,
- 29:26Speaker 11: I was young enough to think that, hey, you know,
- 29:28Speaker 11: I'm going to be okay, but old enough to know
- 29:30Speaker 11: what was going on. And for me, I just I
- 29:35Speaker 11: never thought I was a curse. Now, at this stage
- 29:38Speaker 11: in my life, I just think it was kind of
- 29:40Speaker 11: a blessing because without me going through that experience, I
- 29:43Speaker 11: wouldn't have met the people I have been able to
- 29:46Speaker 11: have a platform to talk about my experience. I wouldn't
- 29:50Speaker 11: have the opportunity to be so connected with these charities
- 29:52Speaker 11: that I'm involved with and have.
- 29:55Speaker 1: The perspectives that I have.
- 29:57Speaker 11: So, you know, because whenever I was I was going
- 30:03Speaker 11: through it, I came out. But there's still the ancillary
- 30:05Speaker 11: effects of treatment, you know. I mean, now that I'm
- 30:07Speaker 11: out of treatment, I have an immune system disorder that
- 30:10Speaker 11: I have to, you know, basically give myself an artificial
- 30:13Speaker 11: I mean globwin infusion every four weeks or so, just
- 30:17Speaker 11: so I don't have to live in a bubble like
- 30:18Speaker 11: a bubble boy.
- 30:19Speaker 1: But it's it's just adapting, right, I mean, it's just adapting.
- 30:25Speaker 2: I have that feature called adapting with alex Care because personally,
- 30:30Speaker 2: I was born with one leg and I never felt
- 30:33Speaker 2: any effects of that. And I just think, you know,
- 30:35Speaker 2: we got to hear stories like yours to inspire others that, hey,
- 30:37Speaker 2: you know what, they can get through it too. Wouldn't
- 30:40Speaker 2: you agree like that that's why you did public speaking.
- 30:42Speaker 11: I'm sure, yeah, you know that that was really a
- 30:45Speaker 11: big part of it, And a lot of that was
- 30:47Speaker 11: just about connecting with people with people. I mean, it's
- 30:50Speaker 11: funny because whenever you have a disability, or if you
- 30:53Speaker 11: have a cancer diagnosis, you kind of form your own
- 30:56Speaker 11: tight knit group with people that are like you, and
- 30:59Speaker 11: it was fun. It was just great to hear their
- 31:02Speaker 11: hear their stories too, because I would always have other
- 31:04Speaker 11: people speaking. We would kind of have a whole big
- 31:08Speaker 11: seminar or something, and other people would be speaking and
- 31:10Speaker 11: learning from their experiences too, because no experience.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Is the same.
- 31:14Speaker 11: Uh yeah, So it's it's always great to be able
- 31:17Speaker 11: to share that perspective, connect with people and really motivate
- 31:22Speaker 11: people to try and make a difference, because that's one
- 31:24Speaker 11: thing about cancer.
- 31:25Speaker 1: It affects everybody.
- 31:26Speaker 11: Everybody has either had it or know somebody that has its,
- 31:30Speaker 11: related to somebody that has it, and it's, uh, you know,
- 31:34Speaker 11: something that people definitely want to.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Give a positive impact for.
- 31:38Speaker 11: So if I can inspire people, if I can just
- 31:41Speaker 11: motivate them to be a better version of themselves, they
- 31:44Speaker 11: I've done my job and I'm happy with that.
- 31:47Speaker 2: Even Mike Vikara, who we just talked to of the
- 31:49Speaker 2: New York Post, has had to adapt to having one leg.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Up on sports all right.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Well, one of my one of our one of my
- 31:57Speaker 2: friends and colleagues who helps me do the show every week,
- 32:01Speaker 2: Lou Turminello, actually brought this to my attention that I
- 32:03Speaker 2: researched it. This is also an adaptability podcast because you've
- 32:07Speaker 2: had to adapt to something that makes you have one
- 32:11Speaker 2: leg up on sports. See it's all synchronistic here, Mike,
- 32:14Speaker 2: and I know you've got public with it better. Yeah,
- 32:17Speaker 2: share your story with me about how you have one
- 32:21Speaker 2: leg and you had an amputation and then you're back
- 32:23Speaker 2: on the golf course.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Tell us your story a little bit.
- 32:26Speaker 10: Yeah, happy to do that, Alex. Look, I I play
- 32:30Speaker 10: played basketball most of my life. Sprained my ankle, both ankles,
- 32:34Speaker 10: probably thirty forty times my day. There was those of things,
- 32:37Speaker 10: going to rehab or going to you know, you know,
- 32:39Speaker 10: physical therapy or anything. You know, you just there's MICEI
- 32:43Speaker 10: on it and probably played earlier than you shoul because
- 32:45Speaker 10: you wanted to play, and that helped waken it. Over time,
- 32:49Speaker 10: I developed hype two diabetes, which you know makes your
- 32:51Speaker 10: feet vulnerable. That didn't help, and then about two years
- 32:55Speaker 10: ago I started to get sunuceptible to infections not ultimately
- 33:00Speaker 10: would cause my ankle to develop a condition called charco,
- 33:04Speaker 10: which basically along the short is that your ankle disappears,
- 33:08Speaker 10: your your bone disintegrates, your ligatings go away, you know,
- 33:11Speaker 10: and it can be reversed if he catched early enough.
- 33:13Speaker 10: But but, but but that didn't happen with me. Basically,
- 33:16Speaker 10: I had I had, I had no ankle on my
- 33:17Speaker 10: left foot, and you know, I tried scraping around on
- 33:23Speaker 10: very heavy walking boots. It was not comfortable. And ultimately,
- 33:27Speaker 10: my pediet just put it in my mind that this
- 33:29Speaker 10: might be somebody that I wanted to do down the road.
- 33:31Speaker 10: And then that decision was made for me because I
- 33:33Speaker 10: got a really bad infection in that leg August twenty
- 33:36Speaker 10: twenty two, so I had it removed in August twenty two.
- 33:42Speaker 10: The next day, my doctor said, you know what what
- 33:44Speaker 10: what's what's what's what's your one goal? What do you
- 33:46Speaker 10: want to what do you want to focus on your recovery?
- 33:48Speaker 10: I said, I'd like to I like to play golf again.
- 33:49Speaker 10: He said, I didn't you probably do that by the
- 33:51Speaker 10: let's say.
- 33:51Speaker 3: Next June.
- 33:53Speaker 10: And sure enough, after you know, spending a lot of
- 33:55Speaker 10: time with some wonderful people at Kessler Rehabilitation Center, I
- 34:00Speaker 10: uh in North Jersey, I uh, you know a year later, uh,
- 34:05Speaker 10: in June, I went out and I shot I played
- 34:08Speaker 10: nine holes, maybe take twenty shots, and it was pretty
- 34:11Speaker 10: glorious and uh and look, I'm up and around now.
- 34:14Speaker 10: I'm able to pretty much have my life back to
- 34:16Speaker 10: where it was, probably in a better spot than it
- 34:18Speaker 10: was the last couple of years before the amputation. I
- 34:21Speaker 10: love talking about it to people who are maybe in
- 34:25Speaker 10: the position where they might have to consider it. I'm
- 34:28Speaker 10: very open to talking to people who just are curious
- 34:30Speaker 10: about it, are fascinated by it. Certainly, you know, I'm
- 34:34Speaker 10: interested in our discussion here because, you know, because you've
- 34:39Speaker 10: been able to have to to to succeed and prosper
- 34:42Speaker 10: uh with with with the challenges you were given. So
- 34:46Speaker 10: it's look, I mean, it's I mean, I don't want
- 34:49Speaker 10: to speak for you, but I guess if you asked me,
- 34:51Speaker 10: yes or no, would you like to have two legs?
- 34:52Speaker 10: I probably answered yes because it's just you know, it's
- 34:55Speaker 10: it's it's uh, I don't know, I just would, But
- 34:59Speaker 10: you know, I've I've also learned that this isn't so
- 35:02Speaker 10: bad either.
- 35:02Speaker 5: I can get around.
- 35:03Speaker 10: I can figure things out.
- 35:05Speaker 3: You know.
- 35:05Speaker 10: If I'm not gonna ever run that ten k that
- 35:08Speaker 10: I never was going to run anyway, so I'll live
- 35:10Speaker 10: with that. But I can play golf. I can you
- 35:12Speaker 10: walk into press boxes again. I can do you know
- 35:15Speaker 10: again on my life back for the most part.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Next, well, you know, we gotta we gotta link up
- 35:19Speaker 2: at a game. Tell me what games you're going to,
- 35:21Speaker 2: and I'd love to meet up because this would be
- 35:23Speaker 2: a great to talk with you in person too. And
- 35:26Speaker 2: I'll teach you a roll of blade.
- 35:27Speaker 9: How about that?
- 35:27Speaker 1: That would be pretty cool.
- 35:30Speaker 2: You mentioned prosthetics, by the way, so tell us about
- 35:32Speaker 2: that where you fitted for The fitting process is always
- 35:35Speaker 2: kind of weird because I got to do the casting
- 35:36Speaker 2: and all that and everything. Tell us about the process
- 35:39Speaker 2: for getting the prosthetic.
- 35:40Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean so right right there, toward the end
- 35:42Speaker 10: of my first stay in rehab, which was nineteen days long,
- 35:46Speaker 10: they fit me for a temporary prosthetic, which is what
- 35:50Speaker 10: I was going to learn to walk on. And I
- 35:53Speaker 10: got that about six weeks later. It was grosser a
- 35:57Speaker 10: couple of first and I couldn't take more than three
- 36:00Speaker 10: of the time. At first, I feeling I was gonna
- 36:02Speaker 10: go over sideways. But you know, you adjust, You learn
- 36:07Speaker 10: after you first have your leg amputated, your leg they need,
- 36:10Speaker 10: they need your stump to shrink to be able to
- 36:13Speaker 10: fit into a permanent prosthetic, and that's what happened to
- 36:16Speaker 10: happen to me. I was on the temporary one for
- 36:20Speaker 10: a battle about nine ten months, and once the residual
- 36:26Speaker 10: limb got to the size they figured it would be
- 36:28Speaker 10: the standard size for the rest of my life. I
- 36:31Speaker 10: got fitted for a permanent one. This one has kind
- 36:34Speaker 10: of an electronic ankle, so my gate's a little more natural.
- 36:37Speaker 10: And yeah, I've had that since then. Efvecta on Sunday.
- 36:42Speaker 10: It'll be a year that I have.
- 36:43Speaker 2: The happy anniversary, right so, and you're back on the
- 36:48Speaker 2: golf course. I know that's a huge deal for you
- 36:50Speaker 2: as well.
- 36:51Speaker 3: It is luck.
- 36:52Speaker 10: I mean, I wasn't that good to begin with at
- 36:55Speaker 10: my peak when I was, you know, in my early forties,
- 36:57Speaker 10: maybe I was a twelve or thirteen. You know, by
- 37:00Speaker 10: the time I was done, it was probably a twenty.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Now.
- 37:02Speaker 10: Of course, I don't care what handicaps. I'm not going
- 37:04Speaker 10: into the sand trap, I'm not going onto elevated greens,
- 37:07Speaker 10: I'm not going on to elevated t's. I'm just gonna
- 37:09Speaker 10: try it to the ball and have a good day
- 37:10Speaker 10: with my friends. I mean, I mean, I don't care
- 37:13Speaker 10: my scores. I just care that to keep the ball
- 37:14Speaker 10: in the air. And the fact of the matter is
- 37:16Speaker 10: that you know, in a lot of ways, believe or not,
- 37:18Speaker 10: I want to hurt the ball nearly as far as
- 37:20Speaker 10: I used to do, but I had it straight as
- 37:22Speaker 10: a pin. You know where it's going, and you know
- 37:26Speaker 10: every time that I end up there, I can knock
- 37:29Speaker 10: the ball forward one hundred and forty hundred and sixty
- 37:30Speaker 10: yards till they take the clubs out of my hands.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Speaking of amputees, let's catch up with Mary Johnson. She
- 37:38Speaker 2: was on just not too long ago, and we talked
- 37:41Speaker 2: about her running career as an amputee.
- 37:45Speaker 8: You've been a.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Running your whole life, and that's what I want to
- 37:46Speaker 2: talk about, because you've ever been running, and now since
- 37:50Speaker 2: you've lost your leg, you contind to run. So tell
- 37:52Speaker 2: us about the adaptation running with two versus the one.
- 37:55Speaker 2: And when you did lose a leg, where you were
- 37:57Speaker 2: you wouldn't be able to run again type of thing.
- 38:01Speaker 12: Sure, So when I woke up, I you know, I
- 38:05Speaker 12: had no leg. I also lost half of my hand
- 38:08Speaker 12: and it took me a few months to even be
- 38:11Speaker 12: able to walk again. And the doctors showed me that
- 38:15Speaker 12: I wouldn't run, which was not an acceptable answer for me.
- 38:20Speaker 12: I'm not someone who takes a no. I just knew
- 38:24Speaker 12: that wasn't.
- 38:24Speaker 6: The right answer.
- 38:25Speaker 12: So I went out right away to find a way
- 38:30Speaker 12: that I could run because I knew I was going
- 38:33Speaker 12: to run again. And I think that's true really about
- 38:37Speaker 12: anything in life. Anyone who's listening to this. If you
- 38:40Speaker 12: want to run a half marathon, you can do it, anyone.
- 38:44Speaker 12: If you set your mind to do something, you can
- 38:46Speaker 12: do it. And so I set my mind to that
- 38:49Speaker 12: I was going to run. I didn't know I was
- 38:52Speaker 12: going to run a half marathon or a marathon one day,
- 38:55Speaker 12: but and.
- 38:57Speaker 2: You did run a marathon.
- 38:57Speaker 6: Tell us about that experience. Not yet signed up for
- 39:00Speaker 6: this November. That'll be my first one here, and we're.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Gonna have to have you back home. Maybe even cover
- 39:05Speaker 2: on the I mean on the course or something like that.
- 39:08Speaker 2: That'd be cool to cover your journey on the marathon course.
- 39:12Speaker 2: That would be pretty fun. We'll have to go to
- 39:13Speaker 2: talk about that off air, but on the air, tell
- 39:16Speaker 2: us about how you did lose your like because I
- 39:18Speaker 2: did post our picture from Fort Washington, we got a
- 39:21Speaker 2: lot of good reactions to tell people who might have
- 39:23Speaker 2: seen the picture how you lost your leg if you
- 39:26Speaker 2: don't mind.
- 39:28Speaker 12: Sure, I was a pedestrian walking and I got it
- 39:33Speaker 12: by a train, So it was a traumatic accident. A
- 39:38Speaker 12: lot of my friends were amputees. Some might be from cancer,
- 39:40Speaker 12: some might be congenital they're born that way. Some people
- 39:44Speaker 12: are accidents, car accidents, motorcycles, trains. So my accident happened
- 39:48Speaker 12: when I was twenty three years old, which makes it
- 39:51Speaker 12: a little bit harder to learn how to walk and
- 39:53Speaker 12: run when you're already an adult. Everything's easier when you're
- 39:58Speaker 12: a kid to learn. But just because something is harder
- 40:01Speaker 12: doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. And so I took
- 40:05Speaker 12: on the challenge of learning how to run, and even
- 40:09Speaker 12: I hurt my head in the accident, I had a
- 40:11Speaker 12: traumatic brain injury, but I took on the challenge of
- 40:14Speaker 12: going back to school because I wanted to just keep
- 40:17Speaker 12: making myself stronger.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Not only did you go back to school, you went
- 40:21Speaker 2: to Saint John's University Law School. Now we'll get into
- 40:24Speaker 2: that in a minute, because I love Saint John's campus,
- 40:26Speaker 2: and that's where it is right that it's on the campus.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Saint John's great place in Utopia, Queen's but nadjustin now
- 40:32Speaker 2: that going back to school and how accepting were you
- 40:35Speaker 2: by your peers after all that?
- 40:37Speaker 1: Were they just so supportive and whatnot?
- 40:40Speaker 5: Uh?
- 40:41Speaker 12: Yes, actually my first but I did first.
- 40:48Speaker 6: I have my background. Ber was before I went back
- 40:51Speaker 6: to school.
- 40:51Speaker 12: I went back to teaching, and behind me is a
- 40:53Speaker 12: little picture of my classroom.
- 40:55Speaker 6: I was teaching fifth grade.
- 40:57Speaker 12: And that is the best because kids won't lie to
- 41:01Speaker 12: you if they ask you what's up, and they don't
- 41:04Speaker 12: mean any harm when you just look different. And it
- 41:09Speaker 12: is kind of very therapeutic to be able to explain, yes,
- 41:13Speaker 12: my leg is different, but isn't it cool that I
- 41:16Speaker 12: use this prosthetic leg and it helps me to walk
- 41:18Speaker 12: and it helps me to run, and so that.
- 41:23Speaker 2: I've gone through many prosthetics, and of course the prosthetic
- 41:26Speaker 2: drew me all because I've gone through many of them
- 41:28Speaker 2: as a kid, not so much of an adult because the
- 41:31Speaker 2: rollblade just kind of sufficed, you know. That was That's
- 41:34Speaker 2: the way I've been since eight years old, role playing around.
- 41:36Speaker 2: But for you, how was the fitting? Was it uncomfortable
- 41:39Speaker 2: at times? How many did you go through to get
- 41:41Speaker 2: it right for your running? For your what do you
- 41:43Speaker 2: have different prosthetics.
- 41:47Speaker 12: I have one for walking and one for running. I'm
- 41:50Speaker 12: thinking a lot every time I would gain or lose
- 41:55Speaker 12: a little bit of weight or things would change, a
- 41:58Speaker 12: lot of fitting to get.
- 42:01Speaker 6: To get things.
- 42:02Speaker 1: Yeah, and so.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Now you're teaching that that is just so cool. And
- 42:05Speaker 2: you went to you went to law school. Tell us
- 42:07Speaker 2: about that experience as well.
- 42:09Speaker 6: I'm gonna graduate in a few weeks, So that's cool. Congratulations,
- 42:15Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 42:16Speaker 12: It's been difficult, but the Saint John's community is really fantastic.
- 42:22Speaker 12: There were a lot of New Yorkers here, there's.
- 42:23Speaker 6: A lot of locals and I'm a New Yorker born.
- 42:27Speaker 12: And raised, so it's just it's a really strong community.
- 42:33Speaker 2: And last, but not least, it is the Olympics. So
- 42:35Speaker 2: why not talk with lou Terminello about what he thinks
- 42:39Speaker 2: of the Paralympics as well as where people with disabilities
- 42:42Speaker 2: and sports can continue to grow.
- 42:45Speaker 9: Lude.
- 42:45Speaker 2: Thanks for your insight on all of this, and uh,
- 42:49Speaker 2: you know, it is a DA anniversary day tomorrow and
- 42:52Speaker 2: eighty eight week this week. Shout out to Jim Abbott,
- 42:55Speaker 2: who of course threw that no hitter with one arm.
- 42:58Speaker 2: And you know, I I often hope more people with disabilities.
- 43:01Speaker 2: I know the guy in Seattle had played one arm
- 43:05Speaker 2: as well. I mean, there's there's some strategy made, but
- 43:08Speaker 2: maybe we can get more pro athletes who have a
- 43:11Speaker 2: disability in the mix.
- 43:12Speaker 1: What do you think.
- 43:13Speaker 13: Well, I think with obviously technology and equipment to help
- 43:24Speaker 13: athletes who have say an arm that's not as developed
- 43:30Speaker 13: that they're born with, you know, no hand or things
- 43:34Speaker 13: like that, I think you'll see more handicapped type athletes,
- 43:39Speaker 13: disabled athletes in Major League Baseball. I will, And not
- 43:43Speaker 13: that I would give him an advantage, it would just
- 43:45Speaker 13: be part of you know, just like just like somebody
- 43:48Speaker 13: wears a helmet, just like somebody who gets his teeth
- 43:52Speaker 13: mission and some guys wear a mouth broughts and guys don't.
- 43:55Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna see more.
- 43:56Speaker 13: You could see more of that in the future, and
- 43:59Speaker 13: that's great.
- 44:04Speaker 3: Now.
- 44:05Speaker 2: I mentioned Jim Abbott to lou Terminelo, and I remember
- 44:08Speaker 2: I got to catch up with McQueen's college. So a
- 44:11Speaker 2: little bonus for you here on the Alex Garrett podcast
- 44:14Speaker 2: Network AD eight Day talking with Jim Abbott, the manager
- 44:17Speaker 2: of the new hitter for the Yankees, about throwing the
- 44:21Speaker 2: no hitter with yes, just one.
- 44:23Speaker 4: R yes about it really quickly, and how you overcame
- 44:27Speaker 4: university and became a move.
- 44:28Speaker 14: Food pitcher and lay league pat Well, I grew up differently.
- 44:31Speaker 14: I grew up in flipfishing, and somebody say that was adversity.
- 44:35Speaker 1: I grew up missing my right hand, but you know,
- 44:37Speaker 1: I had great people around.
- 44:38Speaker 3: Me who hoped me.
- 44:39Speaker 14: Learn how to play, and ultimately I played in the
- 44:41Speaker 14: Major League.
- 44:42Speaker 1: And of course, no, forget the no hitter and stuff
- 44:44Speaker 1: like that really quick, queen. I'm sure people still talking.
- 44:47Speaker 5: They do.
- 44:48Speaker 1: It's amazing.
- 44:48Speaker 14: You know, it's just a game that came out of
- 44:50Speaker 14: the blue. September fourth, nineteen ninety three. He went out
- 44:53Speaker 14: there a Yankee Stadium and in nine innings, twenty seven
- 44:56Speaker 14: outs later, they didn't have a hit.
- 44:58Speaker 2: It changed your life. A sound c for everything, as
- 45:01Speaker 2: one Ryan Pagano might say, Thanks for listening today's special
- 45:05Speaker 2: on the Americans with Disabilities Act turning thirty four. We'll
- 45:08Speaker 2: have more to come on the Alex Garrett Podcast Network.