Latest / Reflexiones cristianas con José Ordóñez / 391 Cómo solucionar problemas económicos en el matrimonio 1
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- 0:05Podcast number three hundred ninety- one. I' m going to be sharing
- 0:12them in the upcoming podcasts Some lectures we lectured together with my wife Jasped about
- 0:20the family economy. Today will be fifteen minutes where we will share that first
- 0:23great experience that becomes our first recommendation for IT about marriage economy, welcome.
- 0:37If we arrange marriages, we arrange families, so it' s not just
- 0:41that we' re going to have themes inherent to marriage, but if we
- 0:46can have a better marriage relationship, so we' re going to have a
- 0:50better relationship between parents and children and the family is going to be fine.
- 0:52It is a continuous battle since we know how to manage our economy. It
- 0:59is not in vain that marriages poorly manage their economy, poorly educate children.
- 1:04And you probably, like me, come from a family where there were always
- 1:14financial difficulties. I could have had a better childhood, but the little communication
- 1:23between my father and my mother in economic matters, the little knowledge and how
- 1:26I would have liked my dad and my mom to come to a conference like
- 1:29this so that I could learn things that if they had put them into practice,
- 1:36at least my brothers would not have lived in poverty, bordering on misery
- 1:41and we would have had better opportunities in life. That is why I say
- 1:45that not only is the issue here about marriage, but it is also about
- 1:48the family. So, in economic matters. You always have to make two
- 1:59out equal that they are seem to be contrary to each other. The first
- 2:04force is what we were taught in economic matters. Our parents taught us,
- 2:12society taught us, the educational system taught us, because you have an economic
- 2:17perception of what you were taught Primary, Baccalaureate and University. Some of you
- 2:23may have had a bit of a deep specialization in how to handle money.
- 2:28And even though you could have gone to the best university where you would have
- 2:32been given the best classes with the best economist. When you take the best
- 2:38economist in society, his knowledge takes him and you equate him with that of
- 2:42the word of God and on many occasions gives you proportionally inverse it gives you
- 2:47that goes in different. As we believe that everything was created by the Holy
- 2:55Spirit, that everything belongs to God, that all the economic, cultural,
- 3:02sapiential, behavioral, behavioral, moral, sexual, family formation sciences, all
- 3:08the disciplines inherent in human beings are explained in concise detail in the word of
- 3:15God, in the word of God. There' s the whole source and
- 3:24as you' re going to realize, you work. What the word of
- 3:29God says, what it says God, who invented the family, who created
- 3:32the family, God who gave it a pattern of behavior in all areas,
- 3:38including the economic area. So, obviously, as pastors, we begin to
- 3:46work and the first thing you have to often try to do with marriages in
- 3:53economic matters is, please, give the opportunity, to the word of God,
- 4:00to begin to disassemble all those thoughts, all those mental structures of the
- 4:04conventional economy. The conventional economy let' s say the science of the economy.
- 4:13We are not saying that we should not listen to him, only that
- 4:17we believe that all human science is complementary to the knowledge that already has the
- 4:24word of God what is important, know accounting, know finance and have knowledge
- 4:29that society gives you. That' s very important. But the last word
- 4:32is not given by the professor economist. The last word always has God,
- 4:36because all the sciences that the human being teaches are based on human knowledge,
- 4:45which is finite and in most cases callous, they eliminate something that is a
- 4:50determining factor in the life of the Christian and says the factor FAITH. The
- 4:57FE doesn' t have an excel chart. One cannot tell a person to
- 5:00have such confidence that God will pray and put him in a column and in
- 5:03an exel line because he will not give you the human sciences will always have
- 5:09that great lack that he is. Let us say that the great possession that
- 5:18has the man and the woman who have decided to believe in Christ and is
- 5:23FAITH. And many of the things we are going to talk about here are
- 5:27born of faith, trust in God, love for the next. For example,
- 5:32there are things that are economically, as you are going to tell them
- 5:35now. My wife brings economic prosperity, but they are born of the benevolence
- 5:42of a person' s heart. Within the things that asked us what they
- 5:46do how economic results can be achieved in life. There is a great factor,
- 5:51which is the generosity of the heart which gives to the needy, which
- 5:58sows in Israel, which sows in the Church and in the Gospel, which
- 6:01is fulfilling with its economy, with the Lord who blesses the poor not in
- 6:10vain the word of God. Tell me if an economist would fit this in
- 6:15his cell of excel the one that gives to the poor, lends to God,
- 6:20that is, I took out a poor man and gave him today so
- 6:24much and where I put that to get him out later on, and there,
- 6:28if you don' t have a factor of faith, which is that,
- 6:31as the word of God says, throw your bread over the waters,
- 6:35after many days you will find it helps many people, that everything you help
- 6:39many people after some time will return again in even more economically multiplied aspects.
- 6:44That doesn' t fit into any human science. Then, please, if
- 6:47you have economic knowledge, here, give preeminence to the factors of faith,
- 6:55because we are going to start talking illogical things, things that have no hold
- 7:02beyond the word of God. When I met Jasmith, poor, very poor,
- 7:12and she poorer, says I did, poor and I was po says
- 7:19I was poorer, yes, yes, the only thing they had of porcelain
- 7:24in the house she was the bath rate. No more, I mean,
- 7:28the pressure pot didn' t blow, but it cried. Oh, my
- 7:35love, I' m not going to tell you the truth. Here now,
- 7:41yes, you' re absolutely right. I mean, I was very
- 7:44poor. I was very poor myself, that is me, at least you
- 7:51had your mom. She is true, true, the daughter of the tamale
- 7:56lady, of the market square standing on the slope. I feel like right
- 8:00now. When he passed through the market square and I say here stood my
- 8:03mother- in- law with her canastic to distribute to them all the stalls,
- 8:07her tamales, he just sashed some tamales Ahorita in December. Half my
- 8:11records, my God, this is not true. I believe that God gives
- 8:18us all the opportunity to live different stages and different times and at the level
- 8:24of finance and economy. We have had the blessing, the enormous blessing of
- 8:31living through all stages, the tremendous stage of nature, of scarcity, of
- 8:37necessity, of literal hunger and of all the missing and all things in that
- 8:43absolute scarcity. But we have also had the opportunity that God, through His
- 8:50grace, has allowed us to have resources. We have had resources and mismanaged
- 8:58them. We' ve had yes, very bad. We' ve had
- 9:07resources and we' ve learned how to manage and we' re like in
- 9:15that constant learning process. We have thirty- four years married, we already
- 9:18have a stable economy. Let' s say that in thirty- four years
- 9:22of marriage, not thirty- four years of marriage, having made all the
- 9:28mistakes having gone through first meeting and having nothing, getting married and going to
- 9:35sleep on our first wedding night with a mattress lying on the floor. That
- 9:39' s right, and that' s where we live for the first time.
- 9:43The day I could buy her a bed, she gave her vertigo,
- 9:48that' s bad. I bought him a bed and a dizziness I took
- 9:56him seriously. We didn' t have that when we saw, when I
- 10:07married Jasmith, she took the few little jewels I had. I had just
- 10:11done a show on Torres savannah. I got paid ten thousand pesos for that
- 10:13show. Yeah, I got there I gave them to you, and we
- 10:18went and fused a couple of little rings with her little jewels. And that
- 10:20she married a dress that made her a lady from the same block, a
- 10:24lady who has a machine with a veil the most beautiful. Here ahead,
- 10:30because she had five months more to go with the veil, i e she
- 10:35said metal and she had enough veil and had enough fold to the veil.
- 10:37Then we got married at the church of the flyers. And when we get
- 10:43married at the wedding party, four gifts you remember, yeah, okay,
- 10:50some spirits drinks, a plastic tablecloth from that market square thing, a set
- 10:58of cutlery from those, from pasta, from those restaurant too from that thing
- 11:03that has a pasta cabito. And the biggest gift they gave us was a
- 11:09big towel, a towel. That was all the presents. There were no
- 11:13more gifts and it was none of my family. It was my sister,
- 11:18the gossip, the egg of nebera, I tell her she does, the
- 11:22gossip, who always before is at the door. So very good. There
- 11:28' s another one we call Hinge, no, my sister Hingegra, because
- 11:33when she' s not at the door even at the window. Okay,
- 11:37okay. I see the fine humor not of you better preaching, then a
- 11:41poverty, true beauty. And I mean, this way we don' t
- 11:48have to eat. The next day we got married and you opened dinner and
- 11:52the mice were eating their nails, that is, there was nothing else.
- 11:56When we tell the story of our marriage, of the first married days,
- 12:01people think they' re part of his show, that is, people think
- 12:05it' s a lie that they kind of don' t, but it
- 12:11was literally when we got married. We got married on December 23rd. Ahorita
- 12:16on the twenty- three we turned thirty- four years old and went to
- 12:22live in the room, where he lived from his whole or in a house.
- 12:26Empty, on a mattress, on the floor. I was pregnant.
- 12:28It came on December 24th and we hadn' t eaten. On December 25th,
- 12:35I had to go back to my house and stay. He visited me
- 12:39as a groom, because they were fifteen days where he had to go and
- 12:45my tam was not there to eat. So I was going to my mom
- 12:48' s house, this one worried about me said don' t stay here
- 12:54while you can figure it out. But let me tell you a detail that
- 12:56has to do with this whole story. About the economy. I didn'
- 13:01t have because I was a bass because I didn' t like working.
- 13:05Not Jasmith, in the thirty- four years we' ve been married.
- 13:11You' ve never told me to get up to work or do your duty.
- 13:16Ninety- nine percent of the mornings we' ve lived in these thirty
- 13:18- four years. When she gets up, I' m already up and
- 13:22I' m already working. I got up last night at 2: 00
- 13:26in the morning, right, and I work. And I do what happens
- 13:31is that until that moment, this crazy dreamer who wanted to be a comedian,
- 13:37when he said that he wanted to be a comedian and that he wanted
- 13:41to be an artist, he woke up the first laughs, but they weren
- 13:46' t laughs at his jokes, but they were jokes because nobody believed in
- 13:46my dreams. When I tell Jasmith my dreams, Yasmidity' s answer and
- 13:52you' re gonna make it because you' re unique in the world and
- 13:56when she marries me, all her efforts were running behind the madman' s
- 14:03dreams to make them possible. We would have to pay a price in that
- 14:09poverty we had until I could at some point remember radio spring that was left
- 14:15here in the twenty- seven, I read the news in the Currincher,
- 14:18the informative of all alert attention and my first salary was already five thousand pesos
- 14:24that paid me to make some matachos, that is to say if they call
- 14:28them matachos, which were humorous things in the news. That' s what
- 14:31the first income started to come in with. But there I have just mentioned
- 14:37no more than one of the things that economically can make a marriage strong,
- 14:43and it is that if your wife does not believe in You, who you
- 14:46expect her to believe in You. We men need Montesquiu to say something,
- 14:52just give me a point of support and move the world. Sometimes we get
- 14:58into our wife' s arms we get married. The word of God says
- 15:01that there is a woman, there is good. When I found Jasmith,
- 15:05I found my number one ally, the number one sponsor of my dreams,
- 15:11and the one who firmly believed that I was going to become that comedian that
- 15:16I said I was doing. So far, that only made fun of other
- 15:20people, but she believed in me. That bonding factor. When there is
- 15:26confidence in the credibility of what the couple is doing, it is decisive and
- 15:31fundamental. In the next podcast I will be sharing the next good part about
- 15:41this lecture we gave with Jasmith, about the economy. Thank you for giving
- 15:48it to me on all the reproduction platforms of this podcast of Christian reflections.
- 15:54It is number three hundred ninety- one, but in Joseph Ordonez Cristiano you
- 16:00find the previous three hundred ninety. For now I want you to have a
- 16:04nice day, to learn every day to better manage the resources that God puts
- 16:11in your hands, may God bless you