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Credlin | 10 March · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Krandler Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Credline. A major update from New South Wales
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Speaker 2: and federal police flate this afternoon on that explosive caravan
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Speaker 2: dawn a counter terror raids leading to more than a
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Speaker 2: dozen people arrested across Live to our reporter for the
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Speaker 2: latest inner moment. That emphatic wins Roger Cook and Labor
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Speaker 2: over the weekend in wa leading to a lot of
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Speaker 2: crowing out of Canberra. So does the state result translate
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Speaker 2: federally leading Labor Polster costa marus with more Even labor
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Speaker 2: insiders didn't expect it, but looks like we're headed down
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Speaker 2: for a budget later this month in March, after the
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Speaker 2: PM blinked on Friday in the face of cyclone Alfred.
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Speaker 2: So the question is, with a sea of red ink expected,
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Speaker 2: will the ambitious Treasurer show restraint? Will Labor try and
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Speaker 2: bite your vote with more handouts? Last to night at
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Speaker 2: the studio, I'll speak with the Melbourne woman whose family
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Speaker 2: was awoken last week by machete wielding thugs.
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Speaker 3: Now she's fed up. She's demanding the premier get her
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Speaker 3: head out of the sand before someone is killed.
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Speaker 2: And with newspaper today confirming that we are headed for
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Speaker 2: a hung parliament, both leaders today try to down to
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Speaker 2: play the result.
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Speaker 4: And we're governing in a way that's completely put politics aside.
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Speaker 4: We're just about helping people.
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Speaker 5: All of these critics, most of them from the Labor Party,
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Speaker 5: who demand our policies to be released now, I think
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Speaker 5: fully of the understanding that people move on very quickly.
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Speaker 2: But first, when the very first announcement the new Canadian
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Speaker 2: Prime minister makes, the previously climate conscious banker Mark Carney,
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Speaker 2: is that he will abolish the carbon tax, well, you know,
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Speaker 2: the world is changing.
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Speaker 6: My government will immediately eliminate the divisive consumer carbon tax
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Speaker 6: on families and farmers and small and medium sized businesses.
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Speaker 2: It's not just Donald Trump with his drill baby drill
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Speaker 2: mantra and pulling out of Paris Carne who is replacing
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Speaker 2: the outgoing Justin Trudeau. Like Trudeau is a creature of
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Speaker 2: the left. So if they're walking away from at least
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Speaker 2: some of this climate madness, we know the Greek religion
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Speaker 2: is in trouble around the world. Everyday voters are waking
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Speaker 2: up to the fact that there's no painless way to
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Speaker 2: get to net zero, and they're losing patients with governments
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Speaker 2: to try and tell them that there is. If growing
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Speaker 2: green really is so good for us, why are power
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Speaker 2: price is always going up and why are manufacturing businesses
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Speaker 2: and jobs heading offshore. Well, Canada's left of center government
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Speaker 2: is today recognize this with its realism. Now Here in
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Speaker 2: Australia under Labor there's no chance of that happening. The
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Speaker 2: Coalition or they used to fight against this sort of
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Speaker 2: climate madness. Indeed, under Rabbit they won a landslide promising
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Speaker 2: to scrap austraight as carbon tax. But that was before
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison sold out Conservatives by agreeing to net zero
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Speaker 2: in the Glasgow Peter Dutton, of course, did not need
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Speaker 2: to be told that there's little point destroying the economy
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Speaker 2: just to cut emissions. Here he is today.
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Speaker 5: We think the government's energy policy is crippling the economy
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Speaker 5: at the moment. People see it in their food prices,
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Speaker 5: they see it in electricity and gas prices as well.
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Speaker 3: And he's right.
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Speaker 2: But between now when you vote, Labour's going to try
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Speaker 2: and bury the real life impacts of their net zero agenda.
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Speaker 3: They've put the so called Nature.
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Speaker 2: Positive Plan on hold, plus on hold two approvals for
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Speaker 2: Offshaw wind farms until after the election, after indicating for
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Speaker 2: months that it would be done in February. The government
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Speaker 2: won't make any announcements about future emissions targets either until
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Speaker 2: after you vote. And you can be confident that the
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Speaker 2: next default market offer on power prices, well that'll be
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Speaker 2: put off too, to further prove that the more intermittent
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Speaker 2: power in the system, the more you build skyrocket.
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Speaker 3: But don't be.
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Speaker 2: Fooled here, Chris Bowen hasn't gone away. The Albertezy government
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Speaker 2: hasn't changed its mind. It's just playing politics until you vote.
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Speaker 2: And what should also worry taxpayers now the election has
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Speaker 2: been put off till May is the massive, big spending
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Speaker 2: budget the Treasurer will down deliver in two weeks time.
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Speaker 2: It will be a budget of handouts, more money and
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Speaker 2: energy rebates designed to mask the reality that it's Labour's
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Speaker 2: own policies of the hurting households. And yet it's those
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Speaker 2: same households paying record high taxes that are getting their
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Speaker 2: money back to cover bills that need not be so high,
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Speaker 2: but for renewables It's a massive money go round, that's
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Speaker 2: what it is. And Label wants you to give them
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Speaker 2: credit for taking your money and they're giving it back
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Speaker 2: to you to pay for bills that keep getting higher
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Speaker 2: and higher because of decisions they make. Now, if you
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Speaker 2: want a definition of fiscal madness, well there it is.
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Speaker 2: I mean, rather than subsidizers for the extra cost of energy, policy,
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Speaker 2: one't avoid the self harm in the first place. Consider
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Speaker 2: Labour's economic record. Two years of falling GDP per person,
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Speaker 2: with productivity back to where it was five years ago,
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Speaker 2: an eight percent drop in real living standards thanks to inflation,
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Speaker 2: energy and mortgage costs. The size of federal government now
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Speaker 2: at twenty eight percent of GDP, a peacetime record. There's
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Speaker 2: real opportunity here for Peter Dutton, as today's newspot confirms.
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Speaker 2: There's a consistent three percent swing away from labor since
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Speaker 2: the last election, as I pointed out in my newspaper
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Speaker 2: column yesterday on the weekend, on a uniform basis, and
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Speaker 2: you know swings in every uniform On a uniform basis,
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Speaker 2: a three percent swing will give a coalition an extra
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Speaker 2: ten seats, but they need nineteen to govern in their
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Speaker 2: own right, meaning that on the polls as they stand.
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Speaker 2: This leaves us with a hung Parliament and a very
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Speaker 2: likely Labor Greens Teal sort of majority, one that's even
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Speaker 2: more left wing than the one we have now, that
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Speaker 2: will want even more green rules, an even bigger state,
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Speaker 2: less in defense spending, and a doubling down on the
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Speaker 2: nation of tribes multiculturalism that's produced the rampant jew hatred
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Speaker 2: on Australian streets. To win in its own rights, and
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Speaker 2: to win a majority coalition needs a four percent swing,
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Speaker 2: a little bit more than Tony Abbott got in twenty thirteen,
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Speaker 2: a little bit less than John Howard got in nineteen
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Speaker 2: ninety six, and that means being stronger and more urgent
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Speaker 2: on its existing themes.
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Speaker 3: The world is more dangerous than ever.
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Speaker 2: We know that, as the almost unchallenged Chinese circumnavigation of
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Speaker 2: Australia shows, and we need to be more self reliant
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Speaker 2: than ever, as America's rough treatment of Ukraine shows. This
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Speaker 2: means ending the energy madness now. It means cutting immigration.
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Speaker 2: It means insisting that migrants when they come here, join
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Speaker 2: Team Australia, not just live in Hotel Australia. It means
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Speaker 2: getting our schools universities, back to education, not in doctrination.
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Speaker 2: It means flying one flag, not three. It means there
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Speaker 2: are two genders, two sexes, not dozens and dozens. It
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Speaker 2: means giving young people a head start in the housing market,
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Speaker 2: not locking up their money in union super funds. And
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Speaker 2: it means an end to wasting our money on roads
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Speaker 2: that never get built, on public servants that never serve
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Speaker 2: the public, and all the other ways that labor wastes
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Speaker 2: billions and billions of dollars every single day. After the
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Speaker 2: PM blink to the face of Cyclone Alfred, we now
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Speaker 2: know that we will have a federal election in May.
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Speaker 2: It's time now for the coalition to get serious, and
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Speaker 2: it's time too for all of us to be focused
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Speaker 2: on what sort of future we want for this country.
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Speaker 2: Because there's not much of a future ahead. We reward
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Speaker 2: a week Prime Minister with another term to lock in
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Speaker 2: the damage. He's already done a lot to get across today.
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Speaker 2: Let's go now to cam Redden for the headlines.
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Speaker 3: Good evening.
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Speaker 7: Approaching midnight in Washington, d C. President Trump fired up
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Speaker 7: his Truth social platform to deliver a free character assessment
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Speaker 7: of Malcolm Turnbull, of the former Prime Minister. He writes,
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Speaker 7: I always thought he was a weak and ineffective leader,
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Speaker 7: and obviously Australians agreed with me. He's outburst seemingly prompted
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Speaker 7: by an appearance on Bloomberg.
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Speaker 8: Look, he doesn't have a commitment to the international rule
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Speaker 8: of law, that's obvious.
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Speaker 6: Doesn't care about treaties or alliances.
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Speaker 7: It further complicates Australia's efforts to secure an exemption from
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Speaker 7: Trump's tariffs.
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Speaker 4: Will continue to add the kate for Australia's national interests.
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Speaker 3: In the wake of cyclone.
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Speaker 7: Alfred the Prime Minister has a message for insurance firms
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Speaker 7: act quickly or face the consequences. Already three thousand claims
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Speaker 7: have been lodged, many more will be made over the
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Speaker 7: weeks ahead.
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Speaker 4: This is a time where insurance companies can restore some
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Speaker 4: of their reputation.
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Speaker 7: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Chris Jelmann and that newspole coming up in a moment,
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Speaker 2: but first to a major update this after ned from
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Speaker 2: New South Wales and Federal police related to that caravan
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Speaker 2: later with explosives that was discovered in Dural. Shockingly, the
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Speaker 2: Deputy Commission of the AFP has today revealed that the
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Speaker 2: plot has been linked to organized crime and that it
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Speaker 2: is quote part of fabricated terror plot.
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Speaker 9: Today I can reveal that the caravan was never going
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Speaker 9: to cause a mass casualty event, but instead was concocted
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Speaker 9: by criminals who wanted to cause fear for personal benefit.
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Speaker 2: Explosive stuf there joining me now Sky Yes, Reporter Julia Bradley,
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Speaker 2: This was shocking when the news rolled out in south afternoon.
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Speaker 2: What else did authorities have to say, jors and this
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Speaker 2: story that it is a fabricated terror plot, what was
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Speaker 2: the motive?
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Speaker 9: Well, quite the revelation, Peter, it's the biggest update in fact,
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Speaker 9: we've had from the AFP on this Operation Kissinger, which
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Speaker 9: is that investigation into this dural caravan bomb plot. As
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Speaker 9: you say, that caravan which was filled with explosives, also
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Speaker 9: an anti Semitic note found insight on the side of
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Speaker 9: the road in Duraal and that happened back in January.
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Speaker 9: And the revelation today from the AFP is that they
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Speaker 9: alleged this was driven by organized criminal elements for personal gain.
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Speaker 9: Essentially that an individual or individuals were behind this and
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Speaker 9: coordinating this plot, directing local criminals on the ground to
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Speaker 9: purchase the caravan, fill it with explosives, and that note
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Speaker 9: and the tip off law enforcement as to the fact
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Speaker 9: that a terrorist attack targeting Jewish Australians could be coming.
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Speaker 9: But today the AFP Deputy Commissioner suggesting it was never
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Speaker 9: going to be a mash casualty event. In fact, it
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Speaker 9: was just a criminal con job motivated for personal reasons,
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Speaker 9: perhaps changing their criminal status, maybe reducing their prison sentence
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Speaker 9: for example in exchange for information about that foil cloth.
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Speaker 2: What about the series of counter terrorism rage this morning
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Speaker 2: at dawn?
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Speaker 3: What can you tell us about those?
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Speaker 9: It was a big police operation that was carried out today,
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Speaker 9: Peter so Eleven search warrants were executed, three firearm prohibition
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Speaker 9: orders executed. All up, about two hundred and fifty officers
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Speaker 9: at a state in a federal level were involved in
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Speaker 9: these raids today. They went around to homes, they were
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Speaker 9: knocking on doors in suburbs like Penshurst, also Wentworth Bill
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Speaker 9: East Lakes. They ended up arresting fourteen individuals and they
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Speaker 9: believed they could then face forty nine charges. Again, the
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Speaker 9: revelation they believe that there's links here or allege there's
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Speaker 9: links to organized crime rather than individuals being motivated by
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Speaker 9: ideological reasons harboring hatred towards members of the Jewish community.
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Speaker 9: They believe this has been done for personal gain, for
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Speaker 9: personal reasons, and really those investigations continuing into those anti
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Speaker 9: Semitic attacks we've seen in Sydney's East recently, with that
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Speaker 9: revelation today, they believe this is being orchestrated by organized
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Speaker 9: criminal elements.
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Speaker 3: All right, believe there do you, Radley? Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Let's move now to the big call from the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister later on Friday night in the face of cyclone, Alfred.
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Speaker 4: I can clearly say that my focus is certainly not
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Speaker 4: on votes. It's on people, and it's on Australians at
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Speaker 4: this diffult time, I'd be doing anything to distract from that.
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Speaker 3: Those comments of course me.
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Speaker 2: We're now looking at a May election, forcing Labor to
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Speaker 2: deliver a federal budget on the twenty fifth of March.
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Speaker 2: For more of this than the other big stories today,
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by our Sky News contributor Chris Hillman. Chris,
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Speaker 2: I think a Labor campaign boss, Paul Ericson would have
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Speaker 2: preferred the p and wait until Sunday to see how
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Speaker 2: the cyclone played out. We know, of course it was
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Speaker 2: downgraded once it hit the shoreline. It was ex tropical
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Speaker 2: cyclone Alfred by then. Before he made that decision to
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Speaker 2: not to visit the Governor General over the weekend, but
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Speaker 2: he blinked, he's now snooked in a sense. We've got
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Speaker 2: Anne's ac Dave, We've got easter, so it will be
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Speaker 2: a May election and he's got no more cards to
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Speaker 2: play here, has.
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Speaker 8: He not on that front? So we know it's going
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Speaker 8: to be a male election, so that's ruled out. That's
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Speaker 8: one of the advantages the government always has of deciding
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Speaker 8: the deity the election. I don't know whether that helped
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Speaker 8: him one way or the other really, but upp your sleeve,
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Speaker 8: he has the sorts of things that you're talking about.
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Speaker 8: With that budget coming up, expect to see that there
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Speaker 8: will be cost of living relief and people have to
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Speaker 8: be really clear about this. If there is another three
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Speaker 8: hundred dollars doled out by the federal government to help
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Speaker 8: cover your electricity bill, that will be six hundred dollars
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Speaker 8: the government has doled out when it said the price
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Speaker 8: is going to drop on twenty twenty two, prices by
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Speaker 8: two hundred and seventy five dollars, So they're recycling taxpayers
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Speaker 8: money back into the pockets of consumers, every consumer in
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Speaker 8: the land. So someone like me who does reasonably well
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Speaker 8: will be getting the same three hundred dollars that someone
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Speaker 8: at a pension who can't afford to have solar panels
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Speaker 8: on their roof or batteries about getting the same amount
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Speaker 8: of money. So people need to realize that this lipstick
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Speaker 8: on a pig of a policy has to be called out,
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Speaker 8: that the precise opposite of what was promised is actually happening.
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Speaker 8: So if that's dressed up as a cost of living relief,
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Speaker 8: I would expect all the journalists to be saying, where's
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Speaker 8: the two hundred and seventy five dollars? And by the way,
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Speaker 8: when will power prices ever fall under the policies that
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Speaker 8: you're delivering.
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Speaker 3: I made the point of the top of the show.
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Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of things that are material to
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Speaker 2: the setting of power prices, Like the twenty thirty five
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Speaker 2: targets due in February.
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Speaker 3: We're not going to see them.
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Speaker 2: Like the default market offer that should be on the
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Speaker 2: table almost imminently, I suspect we won't see that, Like
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Speaker 2: the wind farm approvals. They've been duck shoved away like
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Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of stuff here the government's pretending
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Speaker 2: won't happen until obviously after the election, if.
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Speaker 3: Returned, it will.
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Speaker 2: And then I saw and mentioned at the top of
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Speaker 2: the show too, I mean the new Prime Minister of
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Speaker 2: Canada saying the first thing he'll do is scrap their
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Speaker 2: carbon tax. We see you in Australia to be in
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Speaker 2: a parallel universe compared to the United States, compared to Britain,
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Speaker 2: compared now even to left wing Canada, and we're going
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Speaker 2: down the path of net zero and everybody else is
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Speaker 2: desperately trying to avert course.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you're dead right, Peter. So if you start
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Speaker 8: to add them up, So China has never been doing
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Speaker 8: net zero, Russia has never been doing that zero, India
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Speaker 8: has never been doing that zero. The United States has
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Speaker 8: now pulled out of the Paris Climbate AC cords and
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Speaker 8: it is not doing that zero. Add all that up
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Speaker 8: and you get sixty percent of the world's emissions.
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Speaker 3: We are one percent.
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Speaker 8: So what on earth is Australia doing Because nothing that
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Speaker 8: we do here will have an effect on cutting carbon
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Speaker 8: missions globally. So you would think that it would be
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Speaker 8: time for a rethink. However, I doubt that will happen here.
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Speaker 8: I think things come slowly to Australia. Certainly messages come
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Speaker 8: slowly to Australia, because if you looked at what's happened
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Speaker 8: in Germany, and what's happened in the UK, and what's
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Speaker 8: happened in California, you would see that everywhere where you
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Speaker 8: deploy large scale wind and solar and it rises to
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Speaker 8: become one of the dominant forces of generations. Two things happen.
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Speaker 8: Your grid becomes weaker and the price of electricity goes
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Speaker 8: through the roof. That is true everywhere, and it's now
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Speaker 8: proving to be true here.
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Speaker 2: Chris News poll today two pps still in favor of
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Speaker 2: the Coalition. They are ahead of Labor. There's been a
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Speaker 2: little uptick in the Prime Minister's personal rating, but the
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Speaker 2: party is still in deep trouble. On these numbers, it
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Speaker 2: would absolutely be a hung parliament. I'm curious for your
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Speaker 2: take here this extra time the PM has given himself
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Speaker 2: to go out there and have the election in May.
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Speaker 2: Given the trend today, you know, the longer the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister has been out there campaigning since the voice, the
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Speaker 2: more his numbers have declined, the more the trend has
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Speaker 2: gone against Labor, or the extra time.
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Speaker 3: Worked for him or against him.
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Speaker 8: Well, events do play into this, and this event of
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Speaker 8: the cyclone means it's an unforced change, and it may
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Speaker 8: well be that the extra time does help. In my
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Speaker 8: CUGUV poll, it was out not so long ago that
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Speaker 8: showed a three point turnaround.
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Speaker 3: In Labour's fortune.
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Speaker 8: So if that were start to be replicated elsewhere, that
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Speaker 8: would be interesting. And if you look at those news
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Speaker 8: poll numbers that you were talking about today, looking over them,
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Speaker 8: that you could say that there's a three point swing
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Speaker 8: towards the Coalition over the last three years, or it
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Speaker 8: could be nothing because there's a three point margin of error.
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Speaker 8: We look at those pole numbers that are on primary votes.
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Speaker 8: The lay parties on thirty two, it was on thirty
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Speaker 8: two point seven at the last election, three points plus
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Speaker 8: or minus. Well, it could be three points better than that.
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Speaker 8: Liberal Parties on thirty nine was thirty six point seven
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Speaker 8: at the last election. All thereabouts, again three points plus
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Speaker 8: or minus. If it's minus, there might not have been
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Speaker 8: any change.
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Speaker 3: Since the last election.
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Speaker 8: So I think I've always thought the most likely outcome
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Speaker 8: of the next election, based on the gap that Peter
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Speaker 8: Dutton and the Coalition has to bridge, is a minority
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Speaker 8: labor government and they don't have to sign a deal
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Speaker 8: with the Tals of the Greens, but they would be
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Speaker 8: pulled to the left by the weight on the cross
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Speaker 8: bench of the Teals and the Greens, and it would
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Speaker 8: look like the Senate would be more left wing. So
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Speaker 8: that would be at the outcome of the election, and
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Speaker 8: that may well be a much worse proposition for the
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Speaker 8: Australian people.
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Speaker 2: I think the biggest problem melbournezy has and I wrote
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Speaker 2: about this yesterday, is he doesn't have an incoming government's buffer.
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Speaker 2: I mean John Howard did something like ninety four seats
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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six when he came in from opposition.
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Speaker 2: Tony Avid had ninety seats coming in in twenty thirteen,
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Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd, Kevin O seven somewhere in the mid eighties,
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Speaker 2: or this block's only got seventy seven seats. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's only just formed government in his own right. He's
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Speaker 2: got no seats to lose. And I'm going to get
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Speaker 2: into to w way in a moment with Cos Samaris.
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Speaker 2: But yes, there was a strong return there for the government,
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Speaker 2: but in part that was the McGowen landslide. In some
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Speaker 2: seats there was a twenty percent swing against Labor.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's.
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Speaker 2: A bit of a mixed bag at the moment, and
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Speaker 2: i'd want to see the next news poll before I
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Speaker 2: started to think there was some green shoots here for Labor.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and time will tell, obviously, and I want to
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Speaker 8: see the results on election night because that's where that's
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Speaker 8: where all the rubber actually hits the road. But you know,
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Speaker 8: if you're Anthony Alberonezi at the moment, I know that
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Speaker 8: he is really quite confident about where he sits. Well
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Speaker 8: maybe that is you'd think if he's not going to
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Speaker 8: be confident, then nobody would be. But I do think
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Speaker 8: that's what we've seen now. And what's the real story
20:12
Speaker 8: of the last several elections. It's the collapse in the
20:15
Speaker 8: primary vote of both major parties, the rise and the
20:17
Speaker 8: cross Bench, and so the major parties are now fighting
20:20
Speaker 8: for the scraps on either side of the cross bench
20:22
Speaker 8: now without much change on the cross bench next time around.
20:25
Speaker 8: It puts both of them in a very difficult position
20:27
Speaker 8: in trying to form government.
20:30
Speaker 2: I want to pick up something that I've watched play
20:33
Speaker 2: around the world a little bit. If you've been online,
20:35
Speaker 2: you've probably noticed the number of Western letters folding over
20:38
Speaker 2: themselves to celebrate Ramadan.
20:41
Speaker 3: Even it wins a castle.
20:42
Speaker 2: They played host to an if dinner for the first
20:45
Speaker 2: time in its one thousand year history.
20:48
Speaker 3: Have a listen, Chris.
21:04
Speaker 2: There's an alignment of sorts this year and the timing
21:08
Speaker 2: of Ramadan and the timing of Lent. But where is
21:12
Speaker 2: there a similar focus of the politicians in the Christian
21:15
Speaker 2: West on Lent?
21:19
Speaker 3: Yeah?
21:19
Speaker 8: I thought what was really interesting about that? And of course,
21:21
Speaker 8: you know, the UK now is a multi faith society
21:23
Speaker 8: and it's no surprise at all that institutions should be
21:26
Speaker 8: open to people of all faiths. And I think that
21:28
Speaker 8: that it's a good sign that the people, you know,
21:31
Speaker 8: are getting to celebrate in some of those ancient places.
21:35
Speaker 8: But one of the things I thought was really interesting
21:37
Speaker 8: was that King Charles the Third put out a tweet
21:40
Speaker 8: at the beginning of Ramadan, you know, saying this is
21:43
Speaker 8: a great thing. You know, we were celebrating this. He's
21:47
Speaker 8: the Supreme Governor of the Church of England. Last Wednesday
21:50
Speaker 8: was ash Wednesday, the beginning of lent the holiest season
21:54
Speaker 8: for the Church of England and of course for all Christians.
21:57
Speaker 8: He had nothing at all say about that, And if
22:00
Speaker 8: he'd been just any run of the meal ruler, you
22:02
Speaker 8: would think, well why would he? But as I say,
22:04
Speaker 8: he's the defender of the faith and the Supreme Governor
22:06
Speaker 8: of the Church of England. So you're thinking, if he's
22:09
Speaker 8: trying to basically play to all faiths, that he might
22:12
Speaker 8: mention the one that he has a big hand in
22:14
Speaker 8: when it begins its most important season. And let's not
22:17
Speaker 8: forget to the other season that comes up. Passover is
22:21
Speaker 8: part of this season as well. So I would expect
22:23
Speaker 8: to see that the Christian celebrations are celebrated by our leaders,
22:29
Speaker 8: and also that the Jewish one is recognized, because this
22:32
Speaker 8: is an important time for everybody.
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Speaker 3: You are not wrong, Chris, thank you all right.
22:39
Speaker 2: Now, with that election date pushed out of course into
22:41
Speaker 2: a budget period, focuses back on the treasure of the
22:44
Speaker 2: very ambitious treasure of Jim Chalmers budgets due now on
22:47
Speaker 2: the twenty fifth of May. Just this morning, the Australian
22:51
Speaker 2: report of the PM's preferred election date of April twelve
22:54
Speaker 2: was so set in Stone. Then many senior ministers and
22:57
Speaker 2: advisors had taken a pretty perfunctory approach to budget meetings,
23:01
Speaker 2: even putting off major decisions.
23:03
Speaker 3: Well, now it's back on I.
23:05
Speaker 2: Reckon there was a few public servants choking on their
23:08
Speaker 2: chardonnag on Friday night. They all have to get back
23:11
Speaker 2: in the office on the weekend and help put together
23:14
Speaker 2: a budget which will be a seat of red ink.
23:17
Speaker 2: We know that now, So given our budget footing, will
23:21
Speaker 2: the Treasurer show restraint in a fortnight's time or is
23:25
Speaker 2: he going to spend up big to try and buy
23:27
Speaker 2: your vote?
23:27
Speaker 3: Joining me now, our Business.
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Speaker 2: Editor Ross Greenwood, Now I don't think he thought he
23:33
Speaker 2: would be delivering that budget. I don't think either of us,
23:37
Speaker 2: Ross thought Jim Chalmers would deliver this budget.
23:39
Speaker 3: But here he is.
23:41
Speaker 2: You pointed out this yesterday in the show. I thought
23:43
Speaker 2: it's worth putting this up for people at home. The
23:46
Speaker 2: government's deficit from the year to January is already at
23:50
Speaker 2: thirty seven billion dollars. Now that's a big blowout from
23:53
Speaker 2: what they promised back in May last year. So restraint
23:58
Speaker 2: all vote by Rod What sort of budget are you expecting?
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Speaker 1: It seems this government only knows one way to go,
24:03
Speaker 1: and that is to try and buy votes. If you
24:06
Speaker 1: think about the budget last year, they had about thirty
24:10
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars in a contingency reserve. Well since the
24:14
Speaker 1: beginning of this year they've spent most of that contingency reserve.
24:17
Speaker 1: Now we're not the only one spending because quite clearly
24:20
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton doing the same thing, because there's the nuclear policies,
24:23
Speaker 1: plus also the medicare proposal that the Prime Minister put up,
24:28
Speaker 1: which was eight and a half billion dollars, was pretty
24:31
Speaker 1: much instantly matched by the Coalition. But the reality is
24:35
Speaker 1: that this goes down as one of the biggest spending
24:37
Speaker 1: governments that Australia has seen in me years. The thing
24:41
Speaker 1: that is hard for the government to really convince people
24:44
Speaker 1: about with this is it a time when people are
24:46
Speaker 1: having to really tighten their own belts because of the
24:50
Speaker 1: cost of living crisis, which has been largely manufactured by
24:53
Speaker 1: the government. They are doing exactly the opposite.
24:56
Speaker 3: So in other words, it's not a matter of.
24:58
Speaker 1: Do as I do, do as I se. It's the
25:00
Speaker 1: fact that the people are seeing a government that every
25:03
Speaker 1: time the Prime Minister turns up somewhere is offering people
25:06
Speaker 1: who are not going to be left behind an extra
25:08
Speaker 1: couple of billion dollars at the same time that the
25:11
Speaker 1: ordinary people who might vote for that government are saying, well,
25:13
Speaker 1: hang on, things are tough.
25:15
Speaker 3: And one reason why things are.
25:16
Speaker 1: So tough, Peter, is because the government's tax take has
25:20
Speaker 1: been so high. So don't imagine this is a supmarkets
25:23
Speaker 1: or the insurance companies. Yes, that's it at the edge,
25:26
Speaker 1: but the real reason why the cost of living crisis
25:28
Speaker 1: has happened is because the government's bracket creep has taken
25:32
Speaker 1: so much out of people's pockets that they've been able
25:35
Speaker 1: to spend because they've got so much money coming through
25:38
Speaker 1: the door.
25:41
Speaker 2: Since January this year, the government spent thirty five billion
25:46
Speaker 2: dollars just this year and not even halfway through the year.
25:50
Speaker 2: Let's assume they're going to spend in pretty hard come
25:52
Speaker 2: the budget and of try and buy their way to
25:55
Speaker 2: power back in May. I guess my concern is what
25:59
Speaker 2: does this do interns of inflationary risk? And secondly, correct
26:02
Speaker 2: me if.
26:02
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, But aren't we now under the.
26:05
Speaker 2: New regime where there it will be a different body
26:09
Speaker 2: to set the interest rate or the official cash rate
26:12
Speaker 2: and are we going to see that play into the
26:14
Speaker 2: treasure is thinking.
26:16
Speaker 1: Yep, they start in April, so that's the new body.
26:18
Speaker 1: So as a result they'll be looking at not just
26:21
Speaker 1: inflation but also at employment as the key benchmarks. They
26:24
Speaker 1: kind of are already doing this to be fair, but
26:27
Speaker 1: the reality is that when it comes to interest rates
26:30
Speaker 1: in the future. This has been set by the government,
26:32
Speaker 1: of course, is to try and make certain that there's
26:35
Speaker 1: some notion of full employment. Now you only ever see
26:39
Speaker 1: what full employment is in hindsight, but you know at
26:42
Speaker 1: four point one percent. The reason why the government has
26:44
Speaker 1: got so much money right now and they're spending more
26:48
Speaker 1: than what's coming through the door is largely because of
26:51
Speaker 1: so many payg workers, many more than what have been forecasts.
26:55
Speaker 1: So the unemployment rate has not drifted out to four
26:58
Speaker 1: and a half percent, it stated four point one percent.
27:01
Speaker 1: Now fifty percent of the government's money comes from those
27:04
Speaker 1: payg workers, and so from that point of view, yes,
27:08
Speaker 1: they've got lots of money coming through the door. It'll
27:11
Speaker 1: be offset a bit by falling commodity prices, which do
27:13
Speaker 1: hurt the budget. But here's the reality of this.
27:17
Speaker 3: The Treasurer did not expect to.
27:19
Speaker 1: Give a budget, and so as a result, many of
27:21
Speaker 1: the announcements that many of the announcements that the Prime
27:25
Speaker 1: Minister's come up with would be things that would normally
27:28
Speaker 1: be announced in the budget, but because they're already announced,
27:31
Speaker 1: what's the treasure going to announce? So I'm going to
27:34
Speaker 1: tell you this is going to take the very best
27:36
Speaker 1: of Jim Charmer's noted communication skills to be able to
27:40
Speaker 1: sell this budget because the reality that people are going
27:42
Speaker 1: to see and will see it as soon as the
27:44
Speaker 1: budget comes down is more dead what it looks like
27:47
Speaker 1: over ten years we'll hear from the credit ratings agencies.
27:50
Speaker 1: And so as a result, this is going to be
27:52
Speaker 1: a very big sell ahead of an election because basically
27:56
Speaker 1: people will see the state of the spending and indeed
27:59
Speaker 1: the state of the taxing of individuals that will be
28:02
Speaker 1: coming at the same time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the political point Ross is making there is all
28:08
Speaker 2: the good news has been sold out by the Prime minister.
28:10
Speaker 2: The poor treasurer has got to deliver the bad news.
28:13
Speaker 2: The bad news is basically all you really hear before
28:17
Speaker 2: he calls it on, before he announces the campaign. That's
28:20
Speaker 2: not the sort of footing you like to have that
28:22
Speaker 2: would have been something that was buried until the detail
28:27
Speaker 2: comes out halfway through the election campaign. And it's pretty
28:29
Speaker 2: poultry detail. But we'll see it all in a full
28:32
Speaker 2: budget in two weeks time. Hey, just before you go,
28:34
Speaker 2: Kevin Hassett, he's one of Donald Trump's top advisors. He
28:38
Speaker 2: has downplay the prospect that we might get this exemption
28:41
Speaker 2: on tariffs.
28:43
Speaker 3: Where are we up to? Hear Ross?
28:44
Speaker 1: I think you've got to absolutely believe what that man
28:47
Speaker 1: is saying. And the reason for that is, for what
28:49
Speaker 1: reason would Donald Trump give Australia an exemption?
28:52
Speaker 3: Now?
28:52
Speaker 1: The reality is he says we'll do it where we're
28:55
Speaker 1: not being text on the other side. But the reality is,
28:59
Speaker 1: if you have a look at the people who have
29:01
Speaker 1: got Donald Trump's ear right now, are the big tech marguls,
29:05
Speaker 1: were the big tech morguls being taken on head on
29:08
Speaker 1: by any country Australia. And so as a result, if
29:11
Speaker 1: you think that we're going to get an exemption when
29:13
Speaker 1: they're in his ear telling him about the treatment they've
29:16
Speaker 1: received from the Australian government, I'd suggest to you that
29:20
Speaker 1: Donald Trump isn't going to give too many favors to Australia.
29:23
Speaker 1: Notwithstanding the significant surplus that the United States has with Australia.
29:28
Speaker 1: So as I say, don't expect too many favors, and
29:31
Speaker 1: probably Malcolm Turnbull today didn't do too many other favors
29:35
Speaker 1: for Australia's cause, when, of course Donald Trump had to
29:38
Speaker 1: come out and give him a whack on truth social
29:40
Speaker 1: his social media platform either.
29:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that he reacted to it tells you
29:46
Speaker 2: it really got under the President's skin. Thanks Ross after
29:50
Speaker 2: the break. Big win absolutely for labor on the weekend
29:53
Speaker 2: in Wa. But what impact will it have? Federally leading
29:56
Speaker 2: labor poster Cosamarus coming up plus one woman for action
30:01
Speaker 2: after machete wielding thugs broke into her family home. Welcome
30:09
Speaker 2: back still to come live in the studio A Melbourn
30:11
Speaker 2: mum who had a home broken into by machete wielding
30:15
Speaker 2: thugs will join me. This comes a bid calls for
30:18
Speaker 2: machetes to be banned in Victoria. But first, a resounding
30:22
Speaker 2: win for Roger Cook's Labor government over the weekend, its
30:24
Speaker 2: second highest vote in history, only beaten by Mark McGowan's
30:29
Speaker 2: COVID landslide in twenty twenty one. While there was a
30:32
Speaker 2: seventeen percent swing away from the government. This was a
30:35
Speaker 2: little benefit to the opposition. Most of those votes going
30:38
Speaker 2: to Independence and minor parties to Canberra are the PM
30:41
Speaker 2: and ministers. We're more than happy to claim the win,
30:43
Speaker 2: but will this actually have any bearing on the upcoming
30:47
Speaker 2: federal campaign joined me now to discuss this.
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Speaker 3: Redbridge Group Director of COS.
30:51
Speaker 2: Samariscuse welcome, Thank you for your time. A lot of
30:55
Speaker 2: crowing in Canberra, as I said about that result on
30:57
Speaker 2: Saturday night, but how much of this is relevant federally.
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Speaker 6: Not much at all. I mean, the federal election result
31:06
Speaker 6: is going to be determined in the East Coast. It's
31:07
Speaker 6: the point I made an election night on the ABC.
31:11
Speaker 6: West Australian is very unique. It's unique in terms of
31:14
Speaker 6: its growth over the last ten years, it's unique in
31:16
Speaker 6: terms of the type of Labor Party brand that exists
31:19
Speaker 6: over there, and of course it's also very unique in
31:22
Speaker 6: terms of how bad the opposition is. And so what
31:26
Speaker 6: we saw on the weekend was basically a bunch of
31:30
Speaker 6: while we're defining as millennial home builders out there in
31:32
Speaker 6: outer Berbs, who were unhappy with the inflatory crisis, they
31:38
Speaker 6: having to enduel right now and they went and voted
31:41
Speaker 6: for minor parties because the Liberal Party lacked an economic
31:44
Speaker 6: and narrative.
31:48
Speaker 2: I also want to make the point too for people
31:49
Speaker 2: who are not familiar for Western Australia. But you know,
31:51
Speaker 2: I look at the recent West Australian labor governments and
31:55
Speaker 2: they're more right wing than half the liberal oppositions on
31:59
Speaker 2: the East Coast. You know, when Labor governs from the
32:02
Speaker 2: center right, they are almost impossible to beat at a
32:06
Speaker 2: state level. Look at South Australia going gangbusters under Malanowska's,
32:11
Speaker 2: Look at New South Wales and the Men's obviously, look
32:13
Speaker 2: at cook in Wa.
32:15
Speaker 3: When they move to the.
32:16
Speaker 2: Hard left, as we're seen in Victoria, they're in trouble
32:19
Speaker 2: and it's diabolical for them. In Canberra under Wong and
32:23
Speaker 2: alban Easy and the influence of the Greens. Why doesn't
32:26
Speaker 2: Labour see this? Why doesn't Labours see that if they
32:28
Speaker 2: govern from the center right, sorry, from the labor right,
32:32
Speaker 2: so the center left. When they govern from the labor right,
32:36
Speaker 2: they're a real challenge for coalition governments.
32:40
Speaker 6: There's something about that that needs to be explored here,
32:45
Speaker 6: because what we're seeing in Western Australia is a government
32:49
Speaker 6: that when it was presented with the facts of urban growth,
32:54
Speaker 6: rapid urban growth and Google maps kind of and keep
32:57
Speaker 6: up with some of the growth. In Perth, they embraced
33:01
Speaker 6: it and they made sure they wrapped their arms around
33:03
Speaker 6: those communities that were growing rapidly, so everything that those
33:06
Speaker 6: communities need they get as much as possible. Flip side,
33:11
Speaker 6: in Victoria we had exactly the opposite dynamic rapid urban growth,
33:17
Speaker 6: but the government over the last ten years thought, well,
33:20
Speaker 6: they are in labor areas. We can just turn a
33:23
Speaker 6: blind eye to them and everything will be fine. And
33:27
Speaker 6: that's fundamentally about what I think you're touching on here.
33:31
Speaker 6: What the right of the Labor Party has been very
33:32
Speaker 6: good at historically over many decades is understanding the beating
33:37
Speaker 6: heart working class communities, and what the left has been
33:40
Speaker 6: very poor at, particularly over the last twenty years, is
33:43
Speaker 6: exactly that. So that's what we're basically seeing here and
33:48
Speaker 6: how it manifests, it manifests in government priorities in taking
33:53
Speaker 6: care of working class people.
33:57
Speaker 3: You're not wrong.
33:57
Speaker 2: The labor left is really good at the people that
33:59
Speaker 2: wear the Shake of Our T shirt, but they're hopeless
34:01
Speaker 2: at someone with a couple of kids trying to pay
34:03
Speaker 2: a mortgage at in places that they don't even want
34:06
Speaker 2: to live in. You know, a lot of these labor
34:07
Speaker 2: MPs hold these safe labor seats, but they live a long,
34:11
Speaker 2: long away from their constituents. When we spoke last time,
34:15
Speaker 2: you had a tracking poll that looked at a whole lot
34:17
Speaker 2: of key voter concerns broken down by the issues. You know,
34:22
Speaker 2: cost of living and daylight obviously at the top, but
34:25
Speaker 2: something that's moved up pretty hard and fast is crime
34:28
Speaker 2: and public safety. Now, given this is a huge issue
34:31
Speaker 2: in Victoria, we know it's an issue in parts of
34:33
Speaker 2: Queensland as well. Is this going to have much bearing
34:37
Speaker 2: do you think on the federal vote?
34:39
Speaker 6: I think the only way it interacts with the federal
34:42
Speaker 6: politics is issues around national security. Now, whether that's in
34:47
Speaker 6: relation to some of the home grown terrorism that we're
34:52
Speaker 6: seeing occur, particularly with regards to the five bombings of
34:56
Speaker 6: synagogues in this country and how governments respond to that.
34:59
Speaker 6: Think think that's where it will interact, will intersect, But
35:04
Speaker 6: I think that's about it. I think, look, the next
35:06
Speaker 6: election is going to be about who's got the best
35:08
Speaker 6: economic plan and who do these voters in the outer
35:12
Speaker 6: subbers believe is best placed to represent them in the
35:17
Speaker 6: coming years, and that is a lot of these voters,
35:22
Speaker 6: that is a future which they consider are very uncertain
35:26
Speaker 6: and with a lot of peasimism.
35:29
Speaker 2: I'll ask a question I put to Chris Youman a
35:31
Speaker 2: moment ago. You know, with this extra time, with now
35:35
Speaker 2: confirmation of a May election, is the extra time going
35:39
Speaker 2: to help the Prime minister or work against it.
35:43
Speaker 6: Well, let's look back how they were building up to
35:47
Speaker 6: this weekend, because you know, we all expected he was
35:49
Speaker 6: going to call it all the yesterday or today. We
35:52
Speaker 6: had an interest rate cut. We then had the whaler
35:55
Speaker 6: bout which is very popular amongst the very communities which
35:58
Speaker 6: has been talking about and were then we had the
36:01
Speaker 6: Medicare announcement, and then of course a highly expected win
36:05
Speaker 6: in Western Australia. Then he was going to go to
36:08
Speaker 6: the Governor General's house and call an election. Great build up,
36:11
Speaker 6: great momentum. Meanwhile, Dunn's obviously not really running the best
36:14
Speaker 6: of campaigns up until now. That's all gone. So now
36:19
Speaker 6: they've got the rbur is going to meet before the
36:22
Speaker 6: next election is called. I highly likely that we won't
36:25
Speaker 6: be a cut and we're going to have a budget
36:27
Speaker 6: with a lot of red ink on it. So it's
36:30
Speaker 6: going to be pretty hard for them to replicate that
36:32
Speaker 6: momentum again. So they've I think it's going to hurt
36:36
Speaker 6: them because they were actually kicking some goals here and
36:39
Speaker 6: now they have to re meet the will.
36:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you that the coalition had stalled
36:45
Speaker 2: and the governor I won't say they had momentum, but
36:48
Speaker 2: they were certainly holding ground better than they had been.
36:51
Speaker 3: Up until now. Chust, thank you all.
36:54
Speaker 2: Right after the break, we're joined by the woman, the
36:56
Speaker 2: mom who when the dead of night had a home
36:57
Speaker 2: broken into by thugs. Will the machetes crime spiraling out
37:02
Speaker 2: of control in Melbourne cos Labour's DIRB unit out trying
37:06
Speaker 2: to smear Peter Dutton. Just wait till we go through
37:08
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's fundraising trips and you'll see how low
37:12
Speaker 2: they're willing to go. Welcome back still to come Labour's
37:20
Speaker 2: latest attempt to smear Peter Dutton. This time they've his
37:23
Speaker 2: trip to a party fundraiser that in Sydney has cyclone
37:26
Speaker 2: Alfred approached. But first last week we saw that disturbing
37:31
Speaker 2: CCTV footage of the latest Melbourne home invasion involving machete
37:36
Speaker 2: wielding thugs in the bayside suburb of black Rock, Adele
37:39
Speaker 2: Andrews and a family were woken by the sound of
37:41
Speaker 2: offenders breaking into the garage for the made off with
37:43
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars of goods, including two cars, even a
37:47
Speaker 2: piggybank belonging to one of the children. Unfortunately, not an
37:52
Speaker 2: isolated incident. In Victoria, filent break ins are more than
37:55
Speaker 2: doubled in the past decade. Joining me now about to
37:59
Speaker 2: talk about this horrify ordeal is black Rock resident Adale Andrews.
38:05
Speaker 2: We were just talking the break obviously, how do you
38:10
Speaker 2: We'll talk about what actually happened in a moment, but
38:13
Speaker 2: how are you sleeping at the moment? I mean, surely
38:15
Speaker 2: every single bump and noise in the night must bring
38:18
Speaker 2: you back to where you were looking at that sort
38:19
Speaker 2: of footage.
38:20
Speaker 10: Yeah, it does. It's certainly taken a toll on me
38:23
Speaker 10: and my family. You know, we're on edge where we're
38:27
Speaker 10: slightly paranoid. Every creek and bang in the night wakes up,
38:30
Speaker 10: wakes us up. The first couple of nights, every time
38:33
Speaker 10: I heard something on the road, I was looking out
38:35
Speaker 10: the window.
38:37
Speaker 3: It's certainly taken its.
38:38
Speaker 2: Toll, and your kids are young enough to be traumatized
38:42
Speaker 2: by this, but old enough to absolutely know what went on.
38:44
Speaker 3: Well, that's right. And so that's the other thing.
38:47
Speaker 10: Now, we've got a thirteen year old and a nine
38:49
Speaker 10: year old that doesn't really feel safe at home or
38:52
Speaker 10: safe in their beds, So just managing them. And my
38:55
Speaker 10: nine year old in particular, she's got lots of questions
38:58
Speaker 10: before she goes to sleep, so just trying to reassure
39:01
Speaker 10: her and answer questions that are very difficult to answer.
39:05
Speaker 2: So they got into your house via the garage, and
39:09
Speaker 2: they got upstairs and fortunately, and I say this, fortunately,
39:14
Speaker 2: all they did was steal everything they could. Fortunately know
39:17
Speaker 2: and woke up and confronted them.
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Speaker 10: No, one hundred percent, and fortunately is the right word.
39:21
Speaker 10: I mean, we've seen the footage, We've seen the size
39:23
Speaker 10: of the machete they were carrying, and I do think
39:26
Speaker 10: my lucky stars that none of us got up and
39:28
Speaker 10: confronted them and saw them. And I would hate to
39:30
Speaker 10: think how the story would have played out if we had.
39:33
Speaker 10: It was only thirty minutes before our alarms went off
39:36
Speaker 10: to take my son to footy training, so you know,
39:38
Speaker 10: it was very feasible for one of the children to
39:41
Speaker 10: see them.
39:41
Speaker 3: It was five o'clock in the morning.
39:43
Speaker 10: People are getting up, they're going about their business, and
39:46
Speaker 10: these thugs are just brazenly walking into people's homes and
39:49
Speaker 10: taking things.
39:51
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone really outside of Melbourne understands the
39:54
Speaker 2: fear that communities are faced with, now, do they.
39:57
Speaker 11: No.
39:58
Speaker 10: I'm huge degree of fear, and most people talk about yeah.
40:03
Speaker 10: And the more I tell my story, the more I
40:05
Speaker 10: hear from others who even know someone who's been in
40:08
Speaker 10: the same position or have experienced the same sort of intrusion.
40:12
Speaker 10: And nothing seems to be done, nothing's breaking the cycle.
40:16
Speaker 10: And it's not just a few times a month, that's
40:18
Speaker 10: multiple times a night that families are getting terrorized in
40:22
Speaker 10: their own homes.
40:24
Speaker 3: And you were pretty tough on the premiere, were you?
40:27
Speaker 10: I was, and I remain so I would love to
40:31
Speaker 10: hear her say something constructive about this. We do get
40:35
Speaker 10: a lot of lip service, We get a lot of
40:37
Speaker 10: something needs to be done, you know, I think myself
40:41
Speaker 10: and many other not just Melbournian's but Victorians. Here's a
40:44
Speaker 10: lot going on in regional Victoria as well, with the
40:47
Speaker 10: same sort of youth crime. And I think we've just
40:49
Speaker 10: had enough. It's time for something to change. Let's make
40:52
Speaker 10: some drastic changes, roll them out, give us a time frame,
40:57
Speaker 10: and create some sort of I guess, a safe environment
41:00
Speaker 10: for people to feel safe in their homes.
41:02
Speaker 2: Again, she talks about boo laws, but she was the
41:04
Speaker 2: one who bought in these changes. She talks about machetes,
41:08
Speaker 2: but last week, when given the chance to ban machetes,
41:12
Speaker 2: she walked away from supporting a ban. What would you
41:14
Speaker 2: say to machete bands? What would you say to boo
41:16
Speaker 2: law changes?
41:17
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, the bail law changes have to change. The
41:19
Speaker 10: machete bands, I think, is just one piece of the puzzle,
41:23
Speaker 10: and the instrument isn't necessarily what the problem is. It's
41:26
Speaker 10: the perpetrators that are problem and the fact that there's
41:29
Speaker 10: no consequences for the perpetrators. So, you know, let's get
41:32
Speaker 10: these bail laws right, Let's get some consequences happening for
41:35
Speaker 10: these people that are or these juveniles that are going
41:38
Speaker 10: around terrorizing people in their homes. Whilst I certainly wouldn't
41:43
Speaker 10: be against banning machetes, I find it hard to believe
41:46
Speaker 10: that there's really a need for it. You're going to
41:47
Speaker 10: buy one that big yeah, yeah, and the ease at
41:50
Speaker 10: which people can access access them, you know, that would
41:53
Speaker 10: certainly be a help, But it's the perpetrators that we
41:56
Speaker 10: need to address and consequences for those that are breaking
41:59
Speaker 10: the law.
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Speaker 3: Well, good on you for raising all of this.
42:02
Speaker 2: I know it's happening every night, but you really turn
42:04
Speaker 2: the attention of the state back on to what's the
42:07
Speaker 2: huge issue.
42:07
Speaker 3: Adelle. Thank you, Thank you all the best for a
42:09
Speaker 3: good night. Save God to be term. I don't know
42:11
Speaker 3: how you cope. I don't know how you cope all right.
42:14
Speaker 2: After the break the rollover of two EIGHTYF vehicles under investigation.
42:17
Speaker 2: Are state government's relying too much on our army when
42:21
Speaker 2: it comes.
42:21
Speaker 3: To natural disaster to relate.
42:23
Speaker 2: Plus Labor continues its smear campaign against Peter Darton.
42:26
Speaker 3: But the PM's own record, well that deserves a closer look.
42:34
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
42:35
Speaker 2: Let's bring in my panel LMP Queensland MP Phil Thompson
42:39
Speaker 2: and level MP for South Australia. Although it's not the
42:42
Speaker 2: seat of South Australia of course, James Stevens. Welcome to
42:44
Speaker 2: you both. Let's go to the EIGHTYF crash. Two vehicles
42:48
Speaker 2: colliding while assisting residents in northern New South Wales and
42:51
Speaker 2: the aftermath of exotropical Cycloide Alfred. It all took place
42:55
Speaker 2: very horrifically on Saturday, just outside of Lismore, and it's
42:59
Speaker 2: resulted in thirteen and soldiers being hospitalized. All but one
43:01
Speaker 2: have now been released, thank God, and it's been confirmed
43:05
Speaker 2: the true two trucks did not collide.
43:08
Speaker 3: Peel. You know, all of thoughts and prayers went to everyone.
43:12
Speaker 2: In the ADF community impacted by this over the weekend,
43:16
Speaker 2: but my policy brain went to a discussion I remember
43:20
Speaker 2: from government saying are we expecting too much in terms
43:24
Speaker 2: of natural emergency work.
43:25
Speaker 3: From our ADF?
43:27
Speaker 2: And that allowed state governments to pull back on what
43:30
Speaker 2: they should be doing here. I mean, do we need
43:33
Speaker 2: some sort of home guard or some other sort of
43:36
Speaker 2: arrangement that we might see overseas.
43:37
Speaker 3: Do we need our ADF to be.
43:39
Speaker 2: A military fighting force and not some sort of humanitarian
43:44
Speaker 2: aid group.
43:48
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: My heart goes out to those ADF members and their
43:52
Speaker 12: families that have been injured in this accident. And I've
43:56
Speaker 12: spoken with friends and family and helped get aero metay
44:00
Speaker 12: called transport for that last soldier to be moved to
44:03
Speaker 12: Brisbane and our thoughts are with them at this stage.
44:08
Speaker 12: You are right. Our ADF is far too small and
44:11
Speaker 12: far too busy to be any government's first responder. That's
44:15
Speaker 12: why we have groups like Disaster Relief Australia DRA that
44:19
Speaker 12: do a fantastic job, but they need to be activated,
44:22
Speaker 12: turned on and pushed forward to be able to do it.
44:24
Speaker 12: More money and funding should be allocated to them, so
44:27
Speaker 12: we're not always relying on the military. Because I'm x Army,
44:32
Speaker 12: I've been there in natural disasters through cycling, yasse and others,
44:36
Speaker 12: and it's not our primary role. We're happy and like
44:39
Speaker 12: to help, but it's also different to what I was
44:41
Speaker 12: trained to I'm an infantry soldier. It's very different. I
44:45
Speaker 12: don't repel out of helicopters. I don't normally cut down trees,
44:48
Speaker 12: don't do swift water rescue. We have people that do
44:51
Speaker 12: that and DRA would be best suited to take that
44:54
Speaker 12: policy going forward, and I think the government or any
44:58
Speaker 12: future government should be seriously looking at that.
45:02
Speaker 3: Yeah.
45:02
Speaker 2: Agree, I think it should be on the agenda for
45:04
Speaker 2: a national cabinet. That's the sort of stuff that should
45:07
Speaker 2: be front and center for the government. Let's go to
45:09
Speaker 2: Labour's attempt the latest attempt to peer to smear Peter Dutton.
45:13
Speaker 2: This is all over a trip to Sydney for a
45:15
Speaker 2: party fundraiser last week, just as I guess Queensland was
45:20
Speaker 2: preparing for cyclone, Alfred, have a listen.
45:24
Speaker 13: At a time when Queensland is facing natural disaster. We've
45:27
Speaker 13: seen people's lives and their homes and their livelihoods put
45:31
Speaker 13: at risk.
45:31
Speaker 3: The problem.
45:32
Speaker 13: My minister's there, the Deputy prime Minister is there, and
45:34
Speaker 13: Peter Dutton hoops on a plane and flies down to
45:36
Speaker 13: Sydney for a Liberal Party fundraiser. And I think people
45:39
Speaker 13: are starting to wake up to what kind of Peter
45:41
Speaker 13: Dutton really is. Is someone who's very focused on himself
45:44
Speaker 13: and what he wants and not very focused on the
45:46
Speaker 13: community at large.
45:50
Speaker 2: Now they're trying to make this some sort of Hawaii
45:52
Speaker 2: moment for Peter Dutton. But back then, of course Scott
45:55
Speaker 2: Morrison was the government. I governments make decisions, not opposition.
45:59
Speaker 2: This is done in opposition, but the Prime Minister himself
46:03
Speaker 2: has a pretty poor record here, have a listen.
46:07
Speaker 11: It was the Prime Minister of this country on the
46:10
Speaker 11: same day that there was a terrorist attack in Melbourne,
46:13
Speaker 11: he was having drinks with ALP donors in Perth twelve
46:18
Speaker 11: hours after that terrorist attack. So those in glass houses
46:21
Speaker 11: want to be pretty careful in the our peak because
46:23
Speaker 11: by the standard they're setting, the Prime Minister stands condemned.
46:29
Speaker 2: And James I haven't forgotten when Alice Springs was burning,
46:31
Speaker 2: when they were really violent attacks in Ala Springs. He
46:34
Speaker 2: flies in for a photo opportunity, then Nick's out and
46:38
Speaker 2: off he goes to the tennis.
46:42
Speaker 3: That's right, Peter.
46:43
Speaker 14: I think Labor and Anthony Albanezi you want to be
46:45
Speaker 14: really careful about us sort of pot calling a kettle
46:49
Speaker 14: black here, and there's been a lot of examples of
46:52
Speaker 14: the Prime Minister prioritizing politics and expediency for his own
46:58
Speaker 14: interests over what he should be doing as Prime minister
47:00
Speaker 14: for the nation. So their criticism falls completely flat hair
47:04
Speaker 14: and it's pretty low and disgusting. I have to say
47:07
Speaker 14: the attacks that Peter Dutton continues to endure from them,
47:11
Speaker 14: but I'm very confident that people are seeing well and
47:13
Speaker 14: truly through it, and the sort of people making these
47:17
Speaker 14: attacks on Peter Dutton want to be very wary about
47:20
Speaker 14: the sort of standards that they think they're calling out
47:23
Speaker 14: because they're the ones that are breaching them, not Peter Dutton.
47:28
Speaker 3: Phil.
47:28
Speaker 2: I know this was a feature and probably still is
47:30
Speaker 2: a feature of life up your Way, But I was
47:33
Speaker 2: just speaking to a mum here from Melbourne who was
47:36
Speaker 2: subject to a home invasion machette wielding thugs, cars, a
47:40
Speaker 2: whole lot of other personal stuff stolen. Fortunately they didn't
47:44
Speaker 2: confront that didn't wake up and confront the assailants. But
47:48
Speaker 2: there's a call in Victoria for machetes to be banned.
47:51
Speaker 2: I mean, shouldn't they be banned right around Australia. Most
47:53
Speaker 2: are important anyway, made overseas in China, so we just
47:57
Speaker 2: ban them coming into the country.
48:01
Speaker 12: Yeah, who's walking around the streets with machetes in places
48:04
Speaker 12: like Melbourne City, Brisbane City or even Townsale City. They're criminals.
48:09
Speaker 12: I agree with your previous guest on your show. You
48:13
Speaker 12: need to tackle the criminals. You need to lock them up.
48:16
Speaker 12: To be talking, We've got to be locking these criminals up.
48:18
Speaker 12: Youth criminals go to jail. If you walking around with machetes,
48:21
Speaker 12: if you're terrorizing people's homes. If you want to band
48:24
Speaker 12: band the importer of machetes, I'd only carve out for
48:27
Speaker 12: agriculture use. I know that there's a labor MP in
48:31
Speaker 12: Victoria who came out and said he hasn't seen anyone
48:33
Speaker 12: on a farm use a machete. Well, that's probably because
48:36
Speaker 12: he's inner city Melbourne seat. But up in the north
48:39
Speaker 12: our cane growler is our farmers still use it. But
48:43
Speaker 12: I do think that if we're going to be serious,
48:45
Speaker 12: we need to have a full suite of a policy.
48:47
Speaker 12: If this is one spoke in the world that I'm
48:50
Speaker 12: in on it. But first and foremost, you punish that
48:52
Speaker 12: bad behavior, and you start putting handcuffs on these criminals
48:55
Speaker 12: and start locking them up and protecting the community.
49:00
Speaker 3: James, let's go to push polling.
49:01
Speaker 2: A lot of claims around today that Climate two hundred
49:05
Speaker 2: is involved in push polling, particularly into the seat of Oneen.
49:09
Speaker 3: What can you tell us, Well.
49:13
Speaker 14: Peter, I've even seen the same thing in my own
49:15
Speaker 14: seat of Sturt and this is really dodgy behavior by
49:20
Speaker 14: Climate two hundred and the UCOM system. I've seen the
49:25
Speaker 14: questions they're asking. They're trying to pretend or purport to
49:29
Speaker 14: be undertaking innocent polling of people when they're pushing very
49:33
Speaker 14: strong messaging in favor of Teal candidates against the coalition,
49:39
Speaker 14: and of course sometimes they trick some media outlets into
49:43
Speaker 14: publishing these polls and pretending that they're doing so very
49:46
Speaker 14: very well to try and skew people's public perceptions. But
49:50
Speaker 14: we've got to have much higher standards with this sort
49:52
Speaker 14: of thing. And it's the Teals in particular that love
49:54
Speaker 14: to call out and pretend that they're holier than now
49:57
Speaker 14: and that the major parties engaging leave it all sorts
50:00
Speaker 14: of skull digory. This is some of the worst example.
50:05
Speaker 3: That's right. Gott to leave it there, be alive for
50:07
Speaker 3: it in the campaign. Thanks Jens. That's it for me.
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Speaker 3: See you tomorrow night at six