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Tough Loss, Concerning Injury For Ohio State Basketball · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning from Monday, February tenth, I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom Or the Texas game in two hundred
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  Speaker 1: You're talking Ohio State men's basketball today. Buckeyes went on
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  Speaker 1: the road on Sunday, put together what was a you know,
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  Speaker 1: scrappy performance. Looked like early in the second half they
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  Speaker 1: might have overcome a slow start and then Nebraska kind
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  Speaker 1: of woke back up and pulled away at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy nine, seventy one loss for the Buckeyes. Joemke Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Noonobuckeheadle dot com. Kevin, Obviously there's a loss, there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be some negative stuff we get to talk about. But man,
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  Speaker 1: we got to start with Micah Parrish. What a performance
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  Speaker 1: that was from him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty points five of twelve from three four boards.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was really a gutty performance by Parish.
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  Speaker 2: It seems maybe the leading score for Ohio State rotates
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean, Mike co Parrish played a
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  Speaker 2: lot of basketball through his career today, career high with
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  Speaker 2: all of that. Unfortunately, unfortunately for the Buckeyes, they needed
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  Speaker 2: maybe one more Mica Parish out there. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: he he, you know, put up a lot of shots.
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State put up sixty one shots. He put up
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  Speaker 2: twenty one of them. Because really he and another player
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about in a minute were the
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  Speaker 2: only two that really seemed to be connecting today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the buck Eyes. This is like one of those
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  Speaker 1: good news bad news things. It's like they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a consistent leading scorer. It can kind of change game
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  Speaker 1: to game, and that could be a good thing because
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  Speaker 1: if someone has a bad game, it's not just well,
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  Speaker 1: if this one guy can't make baskets, you're doomed. But
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  Speaker 1: also they don't have a consistent every game kind of
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  Speaker 1: leading scorer. Bruce Dorton put up thirty one I think
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  Speaker 1: against Maryland earlier in the week, had a quiet game today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a little bit. But the
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  Speaker 1: other guy who did have quite a game was John
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  Speaker 1: Mobley twenty one points for him the freshman. You see
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  Speaker 1: these spurts where he looks like he could just absolutely
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  Speaker 1: take the game over. He had one in the second
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  Speaker 1: half where they were right on the verge of falling
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  Speaker 1: out of things and he basically single handedly kept the
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  Speaker 1: minute for a couple minutes. But then he'll have these
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  Speaker 1: spurts where he goes quiet too, And I guess that's
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  Speaker 1: just sort of the nature of being a talented freshman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, when you're a volume shooter, sometimes it's
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  Speaker 2: going down. Sometimes it's not for them today, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for a large part of the day, twenty one point
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  Speaker 2: seven to fifteen from the floor, five to ten from three,
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  Speaker 2: it was going down. But you know there are moments
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  Speaker 2: where you know it does kind of get away from him,
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  Speaker 2: and you know he does go quiet, and you do
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  Speaker 2: what you do, wonder you know, some freshmen try to
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  Speaker 2: put everything up. Some freshmen kind of wait to try
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  Speaker 2: and pick their shots. You know, MOBILEI was hitting threes,
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  Speaker 2: you know from Omaha. I mean he was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he had unlimited range today. You know, it's part of
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  Speaker 2: his learning process. I think he's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: good piece for Ohio State moving forward. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: they only had two pieces that really were doing anything,
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  Speaker 2: with the vast majority of the points coming from Parish
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  Speaker 2: or Mobili and ultimately the win. I look back at
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  Speaker 2: this game, I'm just going to remember Ohio State not
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  Speaker 2: being able to get stops. I think that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be the biggest thing. Ohio State had a five minute
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  Speaker 2: stretch in the second half where it saw its lead evaporate,
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  Speaker 2: and then once Nebraska kind of retok the lead, it
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  Speaker 2: was over at that point, but it just didn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like Ohio State was able to get enough stops. On
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  Speaker 2: the other end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nebraska in the first ten minutes of the first
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  Speaker 1: half was twelve for sixteen from the floor, and then
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  Speaker 1: they kind of went cold and the Buckeye defense picked
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  Speaker 1: it up a little bit, and then there was a
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  Speaker 1: fourteen to two Nebraska run where they kind of started
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  Speaker 1: to pull away again in the second half, and then
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  Speaker 1: there was another one late in the game. Thing might
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  Speaker 1: have been eleven nothing, something like that, where it just
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  Speaker 1: they it felt like you just you couldn't get a stop.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, the part of that is probably like
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  Speaker 1: not great rim defense that it feels like the just
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  Speaker 1: the front court in particular, the big the Bigs were
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  Speaker 1: not very impactful on the offensive end of the floor,
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  Speaker 1: and the play in the paint is just kind of
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  Speaker 1: inconsistent right now. It feels like it is.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Stewart ends up filing out of the game. He
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  Speaker 2: had three points, Aaron Bradshaw had one point. Negovin had
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  Speaker 2: no points. I mean, it was just, you know, really
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  Speaker 2: just not really getting much out of out of the
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  Speaker 2: out of the Bigs position, and just offensively. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there were some altered shots defensively, but you know, just
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  Speaker 2: not enough for you know, for them to be able
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  Speaker 2: to shoot shut down guys like Gary and Williams on
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  Speaker 2: the other side, who combined for forty three points.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, when you just look at the box score,
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  Speaker 1: and the box score really kind of tells you the
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  Speaker 1: story here forty to twenty six points in the paint,
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  Speaker 1: Nebraska with the advantage, Nebraska thirty seven to twenty eight.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of rebounds, just all the little stuff they
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  Speaker 1: got to the line more, they hit a higher percentage
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  Speaker 1: of their free throws. It just it's all the little
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  Speaker 1: stuff that just kind of accumulates and adds up, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's you're not going to win all of
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  Speaker 1: those stats in every game, but you got to win
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  Speaker 1: some of them. And then this was also this was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a quiet game for Bruce Thorton.
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Thorton absolutely carried them to a monster win over Maryland,
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  Speaker 1: so he's allowed to have a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: down game. But he had a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: down game, and you know that's not that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the downside of what we were talking about earlier in
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  Speaker 1: terms of, boy, you never know where the huge performance
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  Speaker 1: is going to come from. Bruce Orton won the game
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday night thirty one points, banked in that three
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  Speaker 1: point or with seven seconds ago. That was a game
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  Speaker 1: that really materially impacted their NCAA tournament chance. Is this
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  Speaker 1: one like whatever, you're going to lose on the road
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  Speaker 1: to teams that are similar to you, that's fine. Those
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  Speaker 1: teams are both projected as ten seats, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is definitely a team where when Bruce Thorton doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a big game, they need someone else to step up.
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  Speaker 1: And the question is just kind of okay, it was
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  Speaker 1: Micah Parrish and John Mobley, but that wasn't quite enough.
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  Speaker 2: In this one, right, and you know, Bruce Thoorton was
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  Speaker 2: leaving some shorts, some shots short. I mean, he did
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  Speaker 2: hit some of his runners. He did have four makes.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was really paying attention for all four
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  Speaker 2: of them, because I remember them all pretty vividly. But
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  Speaker 2: he was coming up short on a couple of his shots.
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  Speaker 2: Another thing too, just about the offense in general. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'll use this talking about Thornton discussion for
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  Speaker 2: an entry point. Was up until like the last four
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  Speaker 2: minutes of the game, Ohio State only had like four
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  Speaker 2: or five assists. They end the game with nine, but
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  Speaker 2: it just didn't look like they were very smooth in
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  Speaker 2: running their half court offense. There was just a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times that guys were just going out there and
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  Speaker 2: kind of you know, dribbling around and creating their own
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  Speaker 2: shot and obviously not getting an assist at that point.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, when you don't have that third option,
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  Speaker 2: I've said it through the years that you need to
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  Speaker 2: have you need to have three in a game really
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  Speaker 2: to be able to do it. Nebraska had three guys
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  Speaker 2: in double figures, Ohio State had two. Bruce Thorton came
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  Speaker 2: up just short with just nine points. You know, there's
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  Speaker 2: been a hell of a lot more good than bad
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  Speaker 2: from Bruce this season, and we'll see with a three
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  Speaker 2: game homestand coming up here, you know, I expect Bruce
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  Speaker 2: to have a really nice homestand.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the one name we haven't said yet on
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  Speaker 1: this show, and honestly we probably and I probably should
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  Speaker 1: have said this earlier, is the name Devin Royal, because
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  Speaker 1: typically Devin Royal is one of those guys you can
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  Speaker 1: rely on to be at least a double figure guy.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't get to twenty all that often, but he's
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  Speaker 1: in that twelve to fifteen range a lot. He only
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  Speaker 1: played fifteen minutes because he looked like he had a
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  Speaker 1: real bad ankle injury in the first half and came
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  Speaker 1: back a little bit in the second half. What was
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  Speaker 1: clearly pretty impacted by that, the loss of Royal. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was one of the real defining factors of
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  Speaker 1: this game. And now the question is, Okay, when can
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  Speaker 1: he come back and be anything close to one hundred
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  Speaker 1: because with a team where you need, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: need to find your scoring from you know, pick three
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  Speaker 1: of these five guys kind of thing, which is sort
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  Speaker 1: of where they are right now, you can't really afford
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  Speaker 1: to lose one of those four or five guys, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, mobiley is I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Royal has really just kind of been able to just
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  Speaker 2: elevate his game all season long. I mean he doesn't, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't break twenty a bunch, but you know he'll
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  Speaker 2: have a very loud sixteen, a very loud eighteen points
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  Speaker 2: in a game, make a lot of plays, make players
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  Speaker 2: around him look a lot better. And not having him
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  Speaker 2: was was a was a major loss. Now you now
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  Speaker 2: you come home and you have a day or two
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  Speaker 2: to get ready for your next game. They need him,
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  Speaker 2: They absolutely are going to need him during the upcoming
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  Speaker 2: stretch of games. And you know, he he really is.
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  Speaker 2: You know part of that. You know, pick you know,
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  Speaker 2: pick three out of the five. He's certainly in that five.
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  Speaker 2: And I would sit there and say that I'm generally
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  Speaker 2: picking Devin Royal to have pretty big games. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: here's to the trainers and everybody else to get that
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  Speaker 2: thing iceed or whatever it needs to be done, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, get him off of his feet and get
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  Speaker 2: that thing elevated and get him right, because if Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State wants to remain on the right side of the bubble.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to need Devin Royal down the stretch.
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  Speaker 1: Well and remaining on the right side of the bubble
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  Speaker 1: is going to start on Wednesday night. This is when
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  Speaker 1: they absolutely have to have Washington is not very good.
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  Speaker 1: You get him at home, then you got Michigan at
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  Speaker 1: home next Sunday. That's going to be you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: one where if you win it, boy, that's an enormous
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  Speaker 1: boost to your resume, and if you lose it, you
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  Speaker 1: kind of go, yeah, okay, it's understandable. And they get
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  Speaker 1: Northwestern at home. Those are your next three games. You
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  Speaker 1: got to go too in one in those three games.
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  Speaker 1: If you go to in one of those three games,
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  Speaker 1: you're probably still comfortably in the field. If you get
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  Speaker 1: your three to zero, boy, you're maybe moving yourself off
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  Speaker 1: of the eight, nine or even ten kind of line
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  Speaker 1: and looking at maybe a seven seed. This is this
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  Speaker 1: is a time where it feels like Ohio State is
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  Speaker 1: kind of on that treadmill right now where it's you're
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  Speaker 1: kind of okay, now, they went from a ten seed
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  Speaker 1: to a nine seed up now the back to a
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  Speaker 1: ten seed, and then maybe if you get a big win,
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  Speaker 1: you might be looked from an eight seed, and then
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  Speaker 1: you might be back to a ten seed with another loss.
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  Speaker 1: They're kind of just in that kind of range right
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  Speaker 1: now where you're not on the verge of having to
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  Speaker 1: go play in Dayton on Tuesday. You'd like to avoid
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  Speaker 1: that if you can. You'd like to avoid obviously falling
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  Speaker 1: completely out of the tournament. But this is this is
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  Speaker 1: a team that feels like it's kind of right in
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  Speaker 1: that in not completely comfortably in, but still probably in
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  Speaker 1: in most of the projections. But man, they got to
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  Speaker 1: win Wednesday night to keep, you know, keep this thing
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  Speaker 1: kind of rolling in the right direction. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I go to bracket Matrix all the time, and I
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  Speaker 2: haven't looked at it in the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: But last time I looked, they were on like ninety
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  Speaker 2: of ninety two brackets, and like the two that weren't
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  Speaker 2: updated were ones that they weren't in on that hadn't
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  Speaker 2: been updated in a couple of days. You know, obviously
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  Speaker 2: we won't see any movement until tomorrow based on as
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  Speaker 2: people release new brackets. I'm willing to bet people are
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  Speaker 2: going to be watching the Super Bowl, so maybe things
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  Speaker 2: will be slow there. But yeah, two and one is
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  Speaker 2: certainly the line if you go If you go one
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  Speaker 2: and two or worse, things are going to be a
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  Speaker 2: little uncomfortable down the stretch. But you know, these are
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  Speaker 2: all I think they're all very winnable games. I know
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  Speaker 2: Michigan certainly is probably the toughest of the three of
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  Speaker 2: them for a multitude of reasons, going to get to
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  Speaker 2: see a former player come back to town, everything else.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, Ohio State needs to be playing its best
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  Speaker 2: basketball at that point because you've got that West coast
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  Speaker 2: trip coming up with games to USC and UCLA on
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  Speaker 2: the back end of this of this three game series,
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  Speaker 2: and we just know what traveling cross country can do sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw the Ohio State women's basketball team
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  Speaker 1: go cross country for that LA double dip and they
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  Speaker 1: lost both ends. Know, those are both top seven teams nationally,
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  Speaker 1: so that's sort of understandable. But yeah, it is. You
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  Speaker 1: got to win your home games and then you hope
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  Speaker 1: you steal one every once in a while on the road,
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  Speaker 1: and that'll that's probably enough to get you in. But
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  Speaker 1: we will see what they can do starting Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 1: Will be there for that game. Buckeys and Washington Huskies
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  Speaker 1: have plenty of basketball talk this week. Also, were gonna
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  Speaker 1: have plenty of football talk this week as well, as
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  Speaker 1: we sort of turn the page into spring football. Guys
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  Speaker 1: will be doing those winter workouts and getting ready for
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  Speaker 1: spring ball. Gonna be plenty to talk about puckehuddle dot
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  Speaker 1: all at buckehuddle dot com. That'll do for today. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.