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Effective Immediately - The Drop: A Snowfall Saga Creators On Behind The Scenes Storylines, Casting & Possible Spinoffs · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Effective Immediately, a production of the Black Effect
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Network and iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, it's Effective Immediately.
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  Speaker 3: I'm DJ Head.
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  Speaker 2: What up, bro?
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  Speaker 4: This your favorite homegirl, Gina Views.
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  Speaker 3: We have special guests in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: The drop of Snowfall Saga is tearing shit up all
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  Speaker 1: over Hulu, Disney Plus, and FX. And we have the
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  Speaker 1: amazing showrunner, creator... His name is Malcolm Spellman. Malcolm Spellman
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  Speaker 1: is here.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Glad to be here.
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  Speaker 1: We got writer, producer, director, executive producer of The Drop
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  Speaker 1: of Snowfall Saga after show, as well as writer on
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  Speaker 1: The Drop of Snowfall Saga. and all around contributor Emil
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  Speaker 1: Pinnock is here thanks for having me and of course
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  Speaker 1: another producer this man needs no introduction in the city
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  Speaker 1: of Los Angeles at all creator producer all of the
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  Speaker 1: things consultant everything you want to call him on the
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  Speaker 1: drop of Snowfall Saga Jimmy Chris is here too yes
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  Speaker 1: sir yes thanks for having us man thank y'all for
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  Speaker 1: being here and also Rashidi is here too Rashidi is
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  Speaker 1: somewhere around here too he was the director of episode
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  Speaker 1: 6 Kilted Kilted shout out to Rashidi Harper okay First
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  Speaker 1: and foremost, Malcolm Spellman, bro, you had an incredible task
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  Speaker 1: in front of you approaching the drop of Snowfall Saga, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Big draws to feel coming off Snowfall. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to know how you feel to have a number one
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  Speaker 1: TV show globally on Disney +, Hulu, and FX.
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  Speaker 2: It's been beautiful. You know, I've said this before. It
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  Speaker 2: was terrifying coming into it, A, because of my relationship
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  Speaker 2: with John.
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  Speaker 3: John Singleton.
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  Speaker 2: And then... the Snowfall fans are, you know, they hardcore.
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  Speaker 2: Snowfall is one of the most legendary shows every May. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's a lot of pressure on you. And
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  Speaker 2: you don't know until the fans tell you, There's no,
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  Speaker 2: so like we was getting to a point where we
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  Speaker 2: felt like we was doing something special, right? And it
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  Speaker 2: was feeling good to the inner circle. But you don't
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  Speaker 2: really know until you get it out to the streets.
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  Speaker 2: But I know we played it for, who was the
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  Speaker 2: two biggest haters we played it for? We played it for,
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  Speaker 2: I know Top and his man G-Weed. Top Dog? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, they came up together too. So that
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  Speaker 2: turns into a certain energy. And I'll tell you this,
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  Speaker 2: like Jim will tell you, Top be like this with
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  Speaker 2: us I don't fuck with it he'll just and that
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  Speaker 2: be the extent of the conversation so once the inner
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  Speaker 2: circle and people like Top and shit like that was
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  Speaker 2: hey I gotta stop saying his name in these interviews
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  Speaker 2: two people gonna be thinking I'm jocking we knew we
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  Speaker 2: was good on our end but it was when the
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  Speaker 2: people embraced us man I'm gonna tell you this more
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  Speaker 2: than I was happy I was like the fear is
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  Speaker 2: gone the fear of getting it wrong yeah okay also
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  Speaker 2: just I gotta give you credit as well You have
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  Speaker 2: created these characters.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you and the team. I know it's a
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  Speaker 1: team of writers. I was in the writer's room. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, you let me and Salas and G Malone
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  Speaker 1: in the writer's room, which we didn't belong there initially,
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  Speaker 1: and you're crazy for that. You and Emile and Jim
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  Speaker 1: for letting us hang out in the writer's room. It's
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  Speaker 1: fucking crazy on a multi-million dollar television show.
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  Speaker 3: Credit to you, but.
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  Speaker 1: I got to know from your perspective when you did
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  Speaker 1: have that fear initially from going like taking the reins
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  Speaker 1: from a John Singleton creation and then kind of spawning
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  Speaker 1: your own. Was there a fear of not getting it wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Did you have fear of success? I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's the right way to phrase it, because like what
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  Speaker 1: happens if you get it right?
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  Speaker 2: It's I think like for me and the way I work,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was talking to Jason about this problem
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  Speaker 2: is he's like we was in New York and it
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  Speaker 2: was we were big and it was up.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And the show was doing great. And he's like, yo, man,
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  Speaker 2: have fun or whatever, right? And I just kind of
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  Speaker 2: die and shut down when things are going good, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And he was like, well, what part do you enjoy?
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, the best parts of this for
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  Speaker 2: me was being in post when an episode, post is
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  Speaker 2: the edit room, and you spend weeks and weeks and
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  Speaker 2: weeks on these episodes. And then there'll be a moment
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  Speaker 2: where one of it when, it comes in and you're like,
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  Speaker 2: this is it. It's the feeling. It's exactly like producing music.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't no different when the song really comes together.
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  Speaker 2: That's the best part of success. I'm really kind of
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  Speaker 2: trying to shut out the other shit because it is, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I have a fear of, success is kind of unknown
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  Speaker 2: to me in a way as far as the public
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  Speaker 2: are here. Like meaning this, being a writer is very
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes in general. This is a little bit
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  Speaker 2: scarier because people recognize you. So, yeah, maybe just the
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  Speaker 2: idea of the unknown. Sorry, man, I'm a little rambling
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  Speaker 2: a little.
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  Speaker 4: Can you share with us how the idea of the
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  Speaker 4: drop was birthed?
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  Speaker 2: The initial idea came from the original showrunner, David Andron,
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  Speaker 2: and FX. And then it's a funny story. Before it
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  Speaker 2: came to me, it went to Jim Bob. and Jim
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  Speaker 2: Bob was like, you know, he don't talk. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: be low-key. He was like, hey, man.
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  Speaker 3: He hate being on the microphone.
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  Speaker 2: Just like I said, top is, Jim is twin. He
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  Speaker 2: was like, hey, man, what if they did a spinoff?
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  Speaker 2: You might fuck with that. And I won't get into
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  Speaker 2: the politics, but there were politics initially, and I said,
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  Speaker 2: I doubt it because of this, this, and that, or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and Jim went and worked all that shit out, and
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  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden now FX was calling me.
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  Speaker 2: If y'all appreciate that Jim is like a real native
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  Speaker 2: and that that's how it's coming, that gives you a
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  Speaker 2: sense of what the show is.
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  Speaker 4: Was there ever a point where we were supposed to
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  Speaker 4: see Wanda and Leon in Africa?
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  Speaker 2: That was supposed to be an original show and it
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  Speaker 2: cost too much. So yeah, it's a thing. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: The great thing is flashbacks or whatever. We would love
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  Speaker 2: to do that episode. And I'm not dissing nobody. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you do it, you got to do
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  Speaker 2: it right. You got to do it right.
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  Speaker 4: We're like avid power fanatics. Like, we talk about power
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  Speaker 4: so much up here.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to the GOAT 15, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And obviously, we know that power has like so many
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  Speaker 4: different spinoffs. Do you guys have any other ideas of
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  Speaker 4: spinoffs that you might want to do from the original?
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  Speaker 2: I my ideas are more L.A. based, but in the
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  Speaker 2: single like we call it the Singleton universe. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying and the movies we watch coming into this
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  Speaker 2: was Poetic Justice, Boys in the Hood and Baby Boy.
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  Speaker 2: That's the spirit of the show.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I think some great look at L.A. 's history at
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  Speaker 2: this time. Bunchy Carter story. But through the lens of Snowfall,
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  Speaker 2: LA riots, really? You know what I'm saying? Through the
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  Speaker 2: lens of Snowfall, all that would be amazing. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? But I don't know if it'll ever happen.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'd be down to do it. But we
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be doing it like true spinoffs. Like Power, that's
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  Speaker 2: their lane. They got that down.
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  Speaker 4: I was just telling Twitter how I don't know who
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  Speaker 4: to thank. So I'm happy that y'all here that I
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  Speaker 4: can thank you guys in person, but the drop and
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  Speaker 4: reasonable doubt are both Aaron on Tuesdays on Hulu, both
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  Speaker 4: West coast based shows, both black led cast. And to me,
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  Speaker 4: it feels like UPN Mondays back in the day where
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  Speaker 4: we have Moesha, the Parker's girlfriends, which were all also
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  Speaker 4: West coast based black led, you know, shows even the game,
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  Speaker 4: but that's a different era, but the game was West
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  Speaker 4: coast black led. Were you guys at all influenced by
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  Speaker 4: that era of TV?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how could you not be? Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: everything you're just saying is making me smile, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? And I think one of the things
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  Speaker 2: we want to do with the show is be able
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  Speaker 2: to constantly reference all that stuff in the culture. Like
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  Speaker 2: the way we did Belly or whatever, right? It'd be
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  Speaker 2: great to get a fucking Moesha reference in there or
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  Speaker 2: a South Central reference in there.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: The dance?
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  Speaker 4: They can go to the D.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. They can go to the D. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Get Chris Shaw up in there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the biggest part, too, that really comes
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  Speaker 3: from those shows that you brought up, because it's interesting, is, like,
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  Speaker 3: having a writer's room that people who have a love for, like,
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  Speaker 3: all of those old black shows is, like, bringing that
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  Speaker 3: inspiration into the room where we, like, everything don't have
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  Speaker 3: to be, like, shoot them up, bang, bang. and all
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  Speaker 3: this different stuff. Like, where are those characters of the
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  Speaker 3: uncle or the grandfather that's really raising somebody, the aunt
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  Speaker 3: that's trying to make something happen, a Lamar that could
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  Speaker 3: be from the community, but he don't got to have
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  Speaker 3: a pistol on him. His brother comes from the same community,
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  Speaker 3: was out there doing it, but he really trying to
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  Speaker 3: actually get out. We like, these are our stories, too.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have a problem with all the other stuff, too.
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  Speaker 3: But we're like, how do we come in the writer's room?
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  Speaker 3: That was one thing big with Malcolm. He's like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: for a long time, he didn't even want a shooting
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  Speaker 3: to happen. It would be like, we don't even want
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  Speaker 3: to get into that at this particular point, like, right?
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  Speaker 3: And when it does happen, it's going to be really organic.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to be for, like, to throw trauma
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  Speaker 3: porn out there and just make somebody just, you know,
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  Speaker 3: have to do something to make the audience be shocked.
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  Speaker 3: We're like, how do we actually do that from a
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  Speaker 3: different perspective of creating dynamic characters and allowing people to
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  Speaker 3: see themselves in these characters? And I think that's what
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  Speaker 3: it is. Even though it's an L.A. show, we're getting
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  Speaker 3: so much love from everywhere else because people see theyself.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody knows that person like Wanda who has tried to
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  Speaker 3: recreate theyself.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I'm one of them.
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  Speaker 3: We know each other. You done did so much that
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  Speaker 3: every time somebody sees you, they're like, oh, this motherfucker here.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be hard for you to go from
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  Speaker 3: what you did before and recreate yourself. Everybody knows a
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  Speaker 3: Lamar that's right from the community, street adjacent, trying to
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  Speaker 3: do something else but still got to travel. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Or the Big Daddy. That's really the
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  Speaker 3: head of the family that's doing that. We can go
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  Speaker 3: through all those different characters. But I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: big part of it, where it's like it's so L.A.,
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  Speaker 3: but it's still representative of our culture everywhere. Like New
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  Speaker 3: York dudes is calling me all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, I love the joint. That's what the Lamar is us.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? They don't care he's from L.A.
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  Speaker 3: They know the Lamar.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, while they've been harassing me about the drop.
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  Speaker 3: He loves it. Yeah, that's dope. That's dope.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Jim, you like to be low key, but I
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to what Malcolm said about the
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  Speaker 1: show first coming to you. Did you automatically know what
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to do with that kind of authority to
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  Speaker 1: be able to say, where.
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  Speaker 3: Is this going to go?
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  Speaker 1: Did you automatically know, okay, Malcolm Spellman, his team, his vision,
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  Speaker 1: what was your thought approaching the drop?
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  Speaker 5: We just did Hip Hop Uncovered, right? So, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I know Malcolm, and I know this is kind of
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  Speaker 5: something he needs to either have control over or either,
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  Speaker 5: you know, be involved with. But the thing was, he said,
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  Speaker 5: I think they kind of talked to him about it before,
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  Speaker 5: and he was feeling a certain way about certain things,
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  Speaker 5: so he didn't want to be involved.
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  Speaker 3: So the guy.
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  Speaker 5: I was dealing with, it came pretty much, if he
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  Speaker 5: can get this stuff out the way, Malcolm might, you know,
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  Speaker 5: consider it, you know, and we came to an agreement
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  Speaker 5: that that's what it would be.
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  Speaker 2: And he took the challenge.
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  Speaker 5: And this is what we got out of it, plus
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  Speaker 5: the team. And we start putting the team together before even,
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  Speaker 5: it took what, the process of what, three, four?
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  Speaker 3: Almost three years.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, for real?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm was writing that back in his house.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? We was there through that
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  Speaker 3: whole process. So that's the thing, like most people don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: That was a development process of him just redoing each script,
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  Speaker 3: getting notes done, going back and forth. But the thing
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  Speaker 3: about Jim, just to speak to him, even during that
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  Speaker 3: time when we was dead in that three years, we
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  Speaker 3: have a number of different companies that we do. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Malcolm has the 51. We have a bunch of other things.
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  Speaker 3: But us three together have something nonprofit called Genius in
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  Speaker 3: the Hood that we're extremely passionate about. And the basics
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  Speaker 3: always is to go back to the hood and to
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  Speaker 3: find geniuses, to unleash them and give them talent and
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  Speaker 3: let them find the giant version of themselves. So even
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  Speaker 3: somebody like Jason who's Grammy nominated in other places, but
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  Speaker 3: he hasn't done what he's done on something like a
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  Speaker 3: television show. So that's an opportunity for him. So when
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  Speaker 3: we were sitting in the back house, we was crafting that.
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  Speaker 3: So you are part of a vision that we literally
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  Speaker 3: was doing for months. That wasn't no like, oh, we
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  Speaker 3: just got the show? Let's go run and get everybody.
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  Speaker 3: We were sitting there building it out. How can we
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  Speaker 3: build consultants into this? How can we build actors that
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  Speaker 3: are from the community into this? How can we bring
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  Speaker 3: people in a writer room? So when you say coming
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  Speaker 3: to the writers, most people would not be allowed to
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  Speaker 3: do that. But Malcolm shapes the writers when he's like,
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  Speaker 3: The answer could come from anybody. Like, we respect everyone's titles.
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  Speaker 3: We respect all of those different things. And people have
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  Speaker 3: their own positions in the writer's room. But if you
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  Speaker 3: coming into the writer's room, you're going to feel empowered
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  Speaker 3: to be like, yo, hold up. That didn't happen like that. Or, yo,
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  Speaker 3: why don't y'all consider this whole thing? And even that
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  Speaker 3: was something that was shaped throughout the three years to
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  Speaker 3: be like, if this ever gets greenlit, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: do this in a very unique way. We want this
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  Speaker 3: show to be unapologetically black all the way from the
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  Speaker 3: creator's all the way down to the PAs. I think
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  Speaker 3: one time we was walking on the set at Sony
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  Speaker 3: when some of the other execs was like, called them
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  Speaker 3: over and was like, yo, I just want to thank y'all.
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  Speaker 3: I've been here on this lot for 12 years and
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  Speaker 3: I never seen this much black people. You know, that
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  Speaker 3: was a proud moment for us, you know, and that,
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  Speaker 3: and that just wasn't the writer's room. That was just
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  Speaker 3: across the board that that's how it looked. And that
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  Speaker 3: was something that Jim wanted to do from the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: That's amazing. Cause when I'm watching the drop, it feels
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  Speaker 4: like a love letter to LA. kind of like I'm
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  Speaker 4: seeing like down from like the lingo to certain situations
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  Speaker 4: that's happening. I'm seeing people on the drop that I
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: grew up with, you know, artists that I interviewed, you know, like,
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  Speaker 4: so it's amazing that it's actual real natives that are
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  Speaker 4: on the drop and like.
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  Speaker 2: Jim got all the confidence in that motherfucker.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, they're going to hit us at three eating
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  Speaker 4: a baby ewe? I cried watching that episode. When I
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: saw him, I'm like, is that baby ewe?
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  Speaker 3: I grew up with Jabari.
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  Speaker 4: So that was nice that you guys even are incorporating
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  Speaker 4: people because a lot of times we get these shows
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  Speaker 4: and they're L.A. shows, but it's the watered-down version of L.A.
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  Speaker 4: You know, niggas saying, increase y'all. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: hear in Crenshaw. When I heard James say, I need that,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 3: The other dude, when he was like, squabble.
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  Speaker 4: Up or something like that, I'm like, yes! We fucking
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  Speaker 4: got it. I'm very, very excited watching it drop. How
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  Speaker 4: important was it for you guys to tell the story
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  Speaker 4: from the actual lens of somebody who grew up in
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  Speaker 4: the urban community versus the watered down version that we
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  Speaker 4: get on TV?
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  Speaker 2: It's essential. It may not look like it, but this
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  Speaker 2: whole camp starts from the streets. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: I caught my first dope case in 87. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? I'm good now. But I'm saying, I
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: say that to say, this story and arena in California
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  Speaker 2: pre-post and during crack, that defines my life. That defines
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  Speaker 2: their lives. I know even me being from Northern California,
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  Speaker 2: I've been out here and I've been in the mix
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  Speaker 2: out here or whatever. Right. But being in the streets
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  Speaker 2: in L.A. only teaches you how much you're not from L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's why I like when you watch it and
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  Speaker 2: people act like they know they do not know how
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: stick because they really wasn't in the streets out here.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: But as a foreigner who been in the streets out here.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Shit can go wrong in two other neighborhoods and go
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: through a system and something that was working fine for
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: you for months is fucked up now. And it's a problem.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: And so I knew, like, starting with Jim and bringing
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: in Emil to help us sort of organize the people,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: we went, Jim put the whole squad together, glasses, problems.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Skip Townsend, you know what I'm saying? We got, we
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: got motherfuckers, Roy, Roy, like, it's so deep, the streets
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: in here, and they all really got a voice. Like,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: that's what Emile was saying. These motherfuckers, even like, you know,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Monster's little brother works, you know, in production, right? If
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: that nigga sees something that's not right, I'll tell you
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: what he gonna say, negative, negative. That was not happening.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: And that's it, and that ain't gonna happen. So, To
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: what you're saying, a long-winded way to say that it
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: was essential to get the streets right and not just
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: on gangbanging. We talking the kind of R & B
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: we picking. You know what I'm saying? Like the church.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: All that. Working in the.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Neighborhoods, you know, personally too, that right there, it seemed
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: like magic. You're working right in the community where they say,
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: you know, shit is not productive.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: You can't do shit.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: It got along so smooth that Everybody come up either
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: next year or either they got some type of role
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: in doing something. Security, helping out with craft, or either
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: just a walkthrough or maybe a few words.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: It was just watching the whole thing go down. It
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: was a party on set, right? Yeah, watching the whole thing.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: And people had to put their work in, too.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: So a lot of times people just think that it's
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: just handing out stuff to people. But that's not the case.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Even Y.S., When we did the pilot before we was greenlit,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: To go to series, YS was at Malcolm, one of
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: his other houses, doing acting classes at the house before
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: we had a role for him.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Just saying, yo, if this goes, I want to be considered.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: And we like, yo, you our partner and everything else,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: but we ain't giving out nothing to nobody that's not
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: ready prepared for this. But we will provide you the
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: skill set to be able to do that. And he
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: was coming to the house working with JJ.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Serious as a motherfucker.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Serious every day. Showing up for the acting classes, coming
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: with us over the other different things. So, like, everybody
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: really put in the work. It wasn't just like a
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: handout of these different opportunities. People really earned it.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I want to know real quick some character development stuff
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: because people online hate Lamar.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And I want to know if that's by design.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: So Lamar is the antagonist this season, meaning this. He
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: is the primary internal obstacle in getting there, right? But
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I also think a lot of it. I did not
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: expect people to react this intensely to him. And I
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: think a lot of the shit is either some kind
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of self-shame or whatever or people not really understanding how
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: different this era was, right? When someone was on the
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: spectrum in 1991.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: So he is.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Because I asked him that and he said he didn't know.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: So he is. Yes. Okay. But the beauty of what
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Asante is doing is he ain't playing it like that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: He's playing it like we understand it from the 90s,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: which is what Big Daddy says in episode five. He's different. Yeah. Right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: At the same time. I think people are mad at
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: seeing a new kind of black cool in this way.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Lamar is a nerd in the hood, but he is
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: in the hood and he is of it. And he
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: speaks up for himself. If you look at the story,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: can you say they got anywhere without Lamar pushing? Right.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: They don't get there. And yet people ain't rooting for
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: him because the nigga ain't acting cool or whatever. And
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: he's having trouble expressing himself. So, yes, it is. It is. Lamar,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that said, and I don't know if Asante has heard this,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: but the whole, me and Jim having the whole writer's
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: room has, Lamar was the antagonist this season.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: He was, yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: He won't, by the end of the season, though, he
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: won't be anymore. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: other people, though.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So we want to embrace the hate. Like, it's
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: like the more people that hate him, the more he's,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: the writing is not only working, but his performance is working. Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Because it's not like they hate Asante, they hate Lamar, right?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: So it's like, dude, they hate the character because we
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: shaped it to be this character that people are going
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: to be really frustrated with. And I think AD does
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: one of the joints, and he be screaming the top
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: of his lungs. Lamar, why is your stupid ass?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Ass?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I love it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: If that was his brother, man, I wish I could
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: name these people. But I had some friends. I'm not
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: even going to give that detail. But they're from the community, right?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: The Crenshaw community. And these were squares, but they grew
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: up in that era. And one of them was like Lamar.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: And his two older brothers were. And these are squares, right?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: They never gang banged. They never did none of that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: But they really grew up on dying block, right? And squares.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: They had to squabble for their brother all the time
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and manage him. And that's the story I was telling y'all.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I'll tell y'all the story about that nigga when he
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: went bad on us. My point being, like, having seen
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: it in real life, I wonder if these people are
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: not understanding that. that your frustration is what it felt
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: like to be different back then, when there is no
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: vocabulary or help with it, and you're going to be put,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I'm one of them, right? So, you know, I grew
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: up in them situations, and anyone who meets me knows
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I don't have a certain kind of energy, but I've
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: been around all that shit. That's just how, and I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: was in retarded classes, just forgive me the words, but
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: that's what they called it in high school. I don't
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: mean that literally, but they put me in slow classes.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: That's also not appropriate. But again, that's just what you did.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So that frustration they're feeling, that's what his family feels.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: That's what he feels. That's what it's like, you know
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, at that time period.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I think, too, because, obviously, like, being on the spectrum
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: or having autism, it's not a new word, but for
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: our generation, we kind of, like, just now learning it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of it. Yeah, I really didn't.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Hear it until, like, probably, like, within the last five years. So, obviously,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: back then in that era, mental health, like, wasn't, like, popularized. Like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: it wasn't a thing. Like you said, it's just slow
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: classes or retarded or, you know, don't counsel me. We
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: can't say that word no more.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you. I got you.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: But I think just because it's not explicitly said that
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: he's autistic or he's on the spectrum, people are confusing
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: it with arrogance. Because that's where he irritate the fuck
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: out of me. At the music video, he like, I
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: got this, oh, we switching the song.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Nigga!
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: We're the nigga!
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: And he is arrogant. But ask anybody, again, I'm not
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: going to name the people, but your partner, it's obvious,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the legend who grew up in Jim's neighborhood. Them motherfuckers
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: is real artists. These niggas ain't dope dealers and shit.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I wish motherfuckers could be around the real people, man.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? So he is arrogant, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: he is going to grow up. You know what I'm saying?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: He's going to be very different going into season two.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: You'll see the beginning.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: It's like the Tariq effect.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yes. We hate Tariq.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I hate Tariq right now.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I hate the real person. Y'all will be rooting for Lamar.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: By the end of the season, he starts to grow
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: up also. And y'all be rooting for him because someone
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: else in season two, I don't know who yet, will
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: be a bigger asshole. And then all of a sudden,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? That's Simba.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: That symbols a hater.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: To the real tiptoe.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: That tiptoe that tiptoes a hater. I don't like nothing
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: about him, but I don't want to see I mean
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: obviously we're only on what episode six But definitely if
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: it's not already a thing season two, I want to
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: see him more cracking as an artist It's.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: It's it's cut listen that song Hey, he rapping about
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: it for the fans because he will be bigger in
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: season two and there's more coming this season. That song,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Nobody Move, the character is right. I told Jason and Simba,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: here's who your character really is. You know what I'm saying?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: This the nigga that's robbing dope dealers and shit. He
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: got four niggas he fucks with in the hood and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: can't nobody tell them shit. He's a jacker. janky motherfucker,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and then you hear the song and he.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Put it out.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Can I ask, how early did y'all decide on DJ Block?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Because I never asked y'all that before. Where did that
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: come from? It was going to be a bigger role.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: It was going to be kind of like the voiceover
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: in The Warriors. You know what I'm saying? Because again,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: all y'all too young to understand that driving around in
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the city felt like that. You hear the DJ's voice.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: We sitting there waiting on a song to come on.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: It could be ours.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's like a godlike voice for us growing up.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Gotcha. Yeah, and then we started talking about, like, who
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: was breaking songs at that time and, like, you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the importance of the DJ even at that time. And
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: then we was like, man, we want to get a
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: real DJ. You know what I mean? And we started
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: talking about that, and obviously we kind of all started
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: to get the relationship with Chew. We like, all right, cool.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: And Malcolm was like, are we using Head for DJ Block,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: or is he doing the after show?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I called Head.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, what do you want to do? Head said...
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I want to do both. The guy said he's doing both.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: We got to go make that happen.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: What's next?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the after show, Malcolm, thank you. I want
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: to publicly thank you for lending us your vehicle to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: be able to do something like that. I know your
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: name was on the line. It was a lot of
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: behind-the-scenes things that people don't know. You had a lot
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: riding on this, and you put your faith in us,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you for doing what y'all did, man. That shit
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: is just... I told them, I be getting jealous. I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: look at the comments, they be like, fuck this, the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: after show. That's the J's in the hood.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: He come out, because not only did he create that,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: he showed the lane for people that was following and
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: watching that, even yourself. Avenues to others, you know, same
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: way with you. You know, you turn the, other avenues
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: on to him as well.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Just watching it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: It just lands.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Now, I'm not asking y'all to spoil it for me
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: or the viewers. And if y'all do spoil it, then
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: we can hold the episode until the season finale. Does
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Dara really like Leon or does Dara want to be Wanda?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It's realer than that. Like, once you meet her family
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: in the next episode, she comes from the shit. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to see the episode or be
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: from L.A. to know what she come from. Well, we
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: not live. Go ahead and tell us.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: We'll hold it. We'll hold it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: No, but you know what I'm saying? Like, her daddy
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: started the hood. Okay. Her mama's so fucking proud of that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? All her uncles are locked
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: in as them people, so she's raised fucked up. up
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: and she does see Leon.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: She's bright.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: All our characters are bright, right? She knows Leon is
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: remarkable and she knows that them D boys all fell
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: down except for him. So there's something special about him
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and she want to get that game from him. She
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: is also, you will see very, very dangerous in that
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: fucked up way. Like, This nigga done told me so
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: many stories about these lethal women out here. You know
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? And it be coming from that. You
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's what happens if you raise a
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: woman in this. Just like if you raise a man
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: in it, that poison going to get into him.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: So she's a set-up bitch.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: We going to cut this part out that I'm about
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: to say?
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Well, it's probably not going to come out until after
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: the episode already.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: The next episode.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: The next episode.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, this is for season two. I'll tell you after. Oh, okay.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: But I do think.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I told.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Him she was a setup bitch.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I don't care. I still want to fuck with her.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I do think Dorito, too, like, we still want her
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: to be everything that Malcolm is saying, but to add
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: a different dynamic to her where she still wants to
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: be more in her feminine energy. Yes. Right? Where, like,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: sometimes a person could come from that culture and not
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: want to be, but she just needs the right man
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: to be. Because sometimes it's like, yeah, I got to
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: be this rough person. because I don't have this person
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: who kind of like helps me to be in my,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: in a more feminine energy. And so that's what we
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: thought the dynamic was like. Yeah, she is all of
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: this that Malcolm just said with her family and everything else.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But with, with Leon, because of the respect that she
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: has for him and how community has from, she could
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: actually be somebody different around him as well. Yes. You
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: So it's not about, because Leon told her straight up, like,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not inheriting your beef.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: He only cared about Wanda. Yep.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: So she kind of on her own. And that's why
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I think at some point, she going to go against Leon.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, I see. Yeah, you know what?
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: She's co-acting.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: She's co-acting.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: She's selling it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Elise is cold, man.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: She is selling it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: The whole cast is murdering it. Gayle's a big, giant superstar,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: all that. I mean, grown Leon is great. But, like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: for Elise to come out of nowhere, Peyton, phenomenal. Asante,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm proud to be involved with someone
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: doing what the fuck he's doing. That is some sophisticated shit.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: All the actors, when I'm watching the show, it makes
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: me feel like I'm watching people who I.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Grew up with.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I want to know real quick, because we got to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: get out of here in a second, but whose idea
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: was it to put that scene in for Dara shooting
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: at Leon? Like, what word did... did that originate? Did
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that originate from a story from Jim Bob? Did that
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: come out of the writer's room?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: That's how I met my wife.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why, because you were saying, I was a
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: popular nigga.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Y'all still in there?
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Y'all married right now? Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: She snatched you up from somebody else?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: She said, come here. No, it wasn't like that. It
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't exactly. I'm also from the Bay. So it was
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: obviously the way to portray exactly what Leon, not Leon,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Emil's saying about Leon and Dara is this. This is
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the sincerity in it. Yeah. She meant every fucking word
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: she said. And if you was around in the 90s,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Them niggas looked like gods when you saw them. Them D-Boys,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the ones, the real players, the ones that wasn't, you know,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: lunatics and shit. What a story. Like, that's it. You
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? They bullshitting. You know, I put
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: some Bay Area on it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I had to.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I had to. That's that Willie Hutch. She would have
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: got squabbled down.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: She would have got squabbled down if that was in
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: She's hella respectful. Really analyze the world. Are y'all two
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: together or not?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: They're still my niggas.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Say that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: They poppin' peas. They poppin' peas. Well, I'm the.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Better than me.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I'm comin' up off my nigga.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, will we ever get a scene to drive by
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Franklin sitting outside a liquor store pumping gas?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Anything? Listen, one day we will, Damson has to be
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: allowed to be a motherfuckin' movie star. But that is
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the face of snowfall.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Well, something came out today on Twitter.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: What?
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: They said it's coming back. That's what Twitter said today.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: But, oh, really?
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't verify this. I don't know if it's a
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: credible source, but I saw that tweet today.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Let's stop talking. Yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I'll find it for y'all.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: That's what it said. Oh, my God. That's some bullshit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: They're going to be mad at me. Let me not pretend.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: That nigga not appearing to see the one. I'll get
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: fucked up for that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: But, no, he got carte blanche.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Can we go see Franklin Mama in jail?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: We're going to do a lot. This show is that
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: kind of show. Okay. This show is about the people.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, It isn't
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: going to become another type of show. It just can't.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It's not what we're doing. We're doing Boys in the Hood,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Baby Boy, Poetic Justice. You know what I'm saying? Now,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it's going to get funky and all that, but this
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: is about the human beings, you know what I'm.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Saying, and the music. Yeah, but also to answer you, though, Gina,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: one thing I will say is that we don't come
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: into the writer's room saying that we can't do those things, though. Okay. Nah.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: It's not like, because sometimes you can have shows where
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: it's like, we can't do this or we can't do that, right?
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So it's like in our writer's room, it's a possibility.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Like all of that stuff that you're saying could be
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: on the board and we just got to start shifting
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: around and making it work. But we also not coming
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: in the writer's room saying, all of those different stories
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: or visiting or the potential to bring somebody back. It's
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: like we're not doing that because we the drop. It's
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: like it all could be on the board. Right.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: You see Big Deon came back. It was very, very organic.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: We needed that character. It was going to work. You
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Shout out to Chad. Yeah, for sure.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: I also like the scene of Leon when he was
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: looking at the pictures.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: He was reminiscing.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a nice touch. Yeah, that's for
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the people. If you was around for that era, you know.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Then you know. That's a nice touch.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: But while y'all here, on Twitter they asking if I'm
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: going to be Wanda's sister. So I don't know if
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: y'all bringing in Wanda family.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: DJ Block might need a rival. You know what I'm saying?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: DJ Block might need a rival.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Once we start shaping it, we're definitely going to reach
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: out to you. I already said that to Ed a
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: few times. You represent the culture.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: You see this about that. The real people got to
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: be on there. The twins and Sugar Free was written
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: into this. That's not no stunt casting.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: That's another thing that was perfect.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But that's written into the script. It was never nobody else.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: It's got to be that shit or it ain't going
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: to be in the show. That's written into the script.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that now the drop going to get an Emmy.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: It's such a freaking good show. Like, y'all, I'm watching
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: the show proud. Like, this my shit.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Like, the show is so freaking good. It's so good.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: We appreciate that. It means a lot to us.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate y'all, you know, for not only just
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: being here, but also incorporating the culture, incorporating me and
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: my team.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Nay worked on our after show. You know what I'm saying?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Just thank you, man.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? We appreciate the energy. Look
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: forward to many more seasons.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Of the drop.
• 34:19
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• 34:22
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