Latest / Sasquatch & Sourdough / Ep. 37 | Faith in the Weird | Fellowship Of The Fringe | Sasquatch & Sourdough
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- 0:00SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
- 0:01SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 0:02SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 0:02SPEAKER_04: We're live.
- 0:03SPEAKER_04: Hey.
- 0:04SPEAKER_04: Hey everyone.
- 0:05SPEAKER_02: Hello, everybody.
- 0:06SPEAKER_04: Hey, everybody.
- 0:07SPEAKER_04: Welcome to the latest installment of Fellowship of the Fringe.
- 0:11SPEAKER_04: I am Christina from Sasquatch and Sourdough.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: Hey guys.
- 0:16SPEAKER_01: This is Ricky from the Christian Theological Dark Web podcast on Fellowship of the Fringe.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: F-O-F.
- 0:23SPEAKER_03: Oh gosh.
- 0:24SPEAKER_05: F Jelly, same.
- 0:26SPEAKER_05: F-O-T-F.
- 0:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 0:28SPEAKER_02: And Jesse from the Handyman Preacher.
- 0:31SPEAKER_02: On TikTok.
- 0:32SPEAKER_02: There we go.
- 0:33SPEAKER_05: That's okay.
- 0:33SPEAKER_05: We're just covering bases, man.
- 0:35SPEAKER_05: God just says put it out there.
- 0:37SPEAKER_05: We got to just do it.
- 0:39SPEAKER_04: I think this might be the actual first real live live chat, like live, actual live stream that we're doing.
- 0:45SPEAKER_04: And I'm really excited about it.
- 0:46SPEAKER_04: So I'm going to double check and make sure that we actually are live.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, live stream chat.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: I can see that says it there.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: So it's a little it says it's a little quiet here.
- 0:55SPEAKER_01: You can be the first to say hello.
- 0:58SPEAKER_04: So yeah, um basically the heart.
- 1:01SPEAKER_04: We all kind of we've been talking about this for a while, but the heart of this is just so that we can kind of have our own little fellowship, and we wanted to open it up to podcasters, creatives, all yeah.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: So let's go.
- 1:13SPEAKER_04: And all of our weird fringe friends.
- 1:16SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
- 1:17SPEAKER_04: Um we are live.
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: So I I I don't know that we decided on a particular topic today, which is totally okay, but um I had suggested we we give some testimonials, some testimonies, uh, just about the awesome stuff God is doing in our lives.
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: I think that that's really, really uh lacking in the Christian fringe uh space.
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: In the fringe space as well, definitely.
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: I mean, but especially in the the the Christian fringe space, you know, like the Lord tells us to tend to your brothers and sisters before you head out and you know pick up the sword and battle other creatures and yeah and try and you know bring others into the fold and disciple them, right?
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: Like so I think to me that that's one of the reasons that the testimony is so powerful.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: One, it really bridges both gaps, but it also encourages those of us fighting, you know what I mean?
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: Yep, it's a morale booster.
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess I'll go first.
- 2:15SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, you've been wanting to share something for me.
- 2:17SPEAKER_04: I have, man.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: I've been wanting to share a lot of things.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: Um, God's been doing some crazy stuff in my life.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: So about two weeks ago, uh well, let me give you guys set the stage for y'all.
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: So I have been studying like crazy um for a interpretation, court interpretation test to work in the courts legally here in Texas and have my license.
- 2:41SPEAKER_01: And uh I passed the first of two tests, thank God for that, which is awesome.
- 2:47SPEAKER_01: Uh I got a 90, which is freaking great, actually.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: I was super stoked.
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: Um, and things have been going, I would say, relatively well financially and everything, which you know is is bumpy at this point in I think reality for a lot of people.
- 3:05SPEAKER_01: And uh, we've always as a family just really battled in that area.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: That's really just a thing that we've always really it's been rough for us.
- 3:14SPEAKER_01: And so when I got this gig working with uh, you know, the immigration courts and everything, you know, it was like, okay, this is at least a solid amount of money coming in, you know, I can depend on it, so on and so forth.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: Well, long story short, guys, they like have not been paying me appropriately, like they've been shorting me money.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: Come on now, and I was furious because you know, I didn't have the greatest um uh I didn't have the greatest budget in the world before um this year, but I really like hunkered down this year, or like, no, we're really gonna be conscientious with what we spend and what we save and how we spend it, what we pay off and all that stuff.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: And so to come in the middle of summer and then like see everything just drop and then the when you're doing things right to like not get the money that you're owed was just I just was floored.
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: I was like, God, what are you what are you doing?
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: Like, what are we doing, man?
- 4:07SPEAKER_01: Like, why is so I just was like, Am I, you know, is this a curse?
- 4:10SPEAKER_01: Is this a is this a demon?
- 4:12SPEAKER_01: Is this I mean, you know, like in in our space, like we just don't even know what to think, you know?
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: You're just like, okay.
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: And a friend of mine shared something uh with me.
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: I asked her to pray for me.
- 4:23SPEAKER_01: Vicky Joy, by the way.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: I asked her to pray for me, and she was like, dude, you know, I was just about, she marko-poiled me, I was just about to jump on and tell you, you know, hey, I'm there with you, bro.
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: I got you, you know, we're gonna keep praying.
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: And the Holy Spirit just spoke to through her to my life.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: She goes, What if this is not a curse?
- 4:44SPEAKER_01: What if this is God trying to get you to break free from a Babylonian system that wants you to try and save money all the time, but wants you to have surplus at every moment.
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: Save Ramsey.
- 4:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
- 4:58SPEAKER_01: That doesn't that doesn't want you to, you know, that doesn't want you to to lack or or or have any kind of fault at all, right?
- 5:05SPEAKER_01: With with what you need.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: And maybe he's trying to get you to literally depend on him for your daily bread.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: And maybe further than that, he's trying to teach you how to pray.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's what God wants.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: Maybe he wants your full and divided attention.
- 5:19SPEAKER_01: And I like I almost started sobbing when I was listening to her her Marco Polo because dude, I was hurting, I was really frustrated.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: Like, it's it's really frustrating to be the provider, and like you're like, okay, I know I should have be solid for this amount of money, right?
- 5:34SPEAKER_01: And not even for like some random, like, oh, our you know, our payroll department didn't work.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: No, they're just like, no, sorry, you didn't earn that money.
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I I worked and I was out of town.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: You gotta pay me.
- 5:46SPEAKER_04: How are they able to even do that?
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: The government, yeah, exactly.
- 5:50SPEAKER_01: So, but that's okay.
- 5:51SPEAKER_01: We don't depend on the government.
- 5:52SPEAKER_01: Uh, thank God we don't, because it's not our source, right?
- 5:56SPEAKER_01: So I just I realized what she was saying.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: I was like, that's true, man.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: Like, Lord, I've given you everything every time I'm like, I've tried to uncover every rock or every possible spiritual binding on my life that could exist or on my my family's life or whatever.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: And I that's what it is.
- 6:16SPEAKER_01: Like, you're asking me to be grateful and trust you.
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: And dude, ever since we started last time we we did this uh our fellowship of the fringe, we started fasting one one day out of the week.
- 6:29SPEAKER_01: Like I will tell you guys, hands down, every week, almost every Wednesday or Thursday when we were fasting, like something crazy would happen in my family, and that's not normal for us, like something weird out of the ordinary would happen.
- 6:42SPEAKER_01: I told you guys about the bird that like flew into my house and was dead there on the back porch.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: Um, where I didn't put up the massousa, which was really weird.
- 6:51SPEAKER_01: I have a masseusa on the front, and now I put the masouza on the back, you better believe it.
- 6:55SPEAKER_01: Um I the the following Wednesday, our washer like broke.
- 7:01SPEAKER_01: I ended up having to fix like our watch.
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: It was so random.
- 7:04SPEAKER_01: I fixed it, thank God.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: But you know, like it was the heck, dude.
- 7:07SPEAKER_01: Just stuff like that, random.
- 7:09SPEAKER_01: And and I realized I was following, and you guys will probably dig this, especially you shall since you like um you and I like to talk about the uh the divine counsel.
- 7:21SPEAKER_01: There's two things that exist in court, there's two ways to interpret the law.
- 7:25SPEAKER_01: One is called the letter of the law, which we're all familiar with because we talk about legalism, but we don't really know the expression the spirit of the law, which is the design with which the law was intended and made.
- 7:36SPEAKER_01: And I realized that I was seeking God through the letter of the law and not through the spirit of the law that he set.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: And I and I mean law in the sense of the way reality works.
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: God wants us to be grateful and be happy and and in the knowledge that he will provide all things.
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: And so I basically was like, I get it.
- 8:00SPEAKER_01: I'm just an algorithm.
- 8:02SPEAKER_01: You know, you're the one that made me.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: I I can take nothing with me.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: I can I have to leave everything here.
- 8:07SPEAKER_01: There's nothing I can take to the next life except what you afford me in the following one, right?
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: There's nothing for me to take.
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: And so I just I just started being grateful in prayer.
- 8:18SPEAKER_01: Like I just started being grateful with life and being like, and my wife was she's freaking out and this and that.
- 8:22SPEAKER_01: She's like, How are we gonna pay?
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you know what?
- 8:24SPEAKER_01: Don't even worry about it.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: Like, God's gonna take care of it.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna worry about money anymore.
- 8:29SPEAKER_01: I'm just not gonna do it, you know, when it when it comes and we get there, then then I'll fight that battle then.
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: Until then, I'm not gonna mess with it.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: And guys, I can't even believe begin to tell you.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: This whole month we've been partnering with the church, our our youth have, with um, several churches, actually, but one in particular.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: And we go on events with them and vice versa.
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: Uh, I got to preach like two weeks ago for them.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: I got to share at my church with the youth.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: I literally like did the opening explanation of the divine counsel inadvertently.
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: I wasn't trying to do it, it just we were talking about the armor of God, and I was like, Well, it's now or never.
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: And I I just I just heard on Monday we went to prayer.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: Um I'm one of those guys that's like, I really don't want to go to prayer, I just want to pray on my own at home by myself.
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: But I'm serious, but corporate prayer is good, man.
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
- 9:20SPEAKER_01: And we were my both my wife and I actually on Monday were really irritated, but we ended up staying, and I was like, What are we doing?
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: Because the dynamic was really weird, and I was like, We're not praying, like we're just kind of hanging out.
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: I was like, What is going on?
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: And my wife leans over me, she's like, Let the Lord work.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: You're we're here for a reason, like just let it happen.
- 9:40SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Okay, very wise.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: Sure, and Emma, my wife's she's a wise one, no kidding.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: And uh, shout out to Marati, love you, babe.
- 9:49SPEAKER_01: And uh she so sure enough, as soon as we finish, like I'm like trying to just keep to myself.
- 9:55SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I really don't want to be here.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: And one of our one of the ladies that showed up, she showed up with her husband.
- 10:02SPEAKER_01: Her husband actually was giving like a short message at the prayer meeting we're at.
- 10:06SPEAKER_01: And she never goes, guys.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: She never goes, she's not like to corporately join.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: She's kind of like me.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: Um, and she's very direct with her words.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: She's like, if I don't like you, I'm gonna tell you I don't like you.
- 10:18SPEAKER_01: She's like, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just want you to know where I stand.
- 10:23SPEAKER_01: I'll love it.
- 10:24SPEAKER_01: I like her already.
- 10:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Shelly is.
- 10:26SPEAKER_05: Very direct I am that way, man.
- 10:28SPEAKER_05: Here it is.
- 10:28SPEAKER_05: Psst what I think.
- 10:30SPEAKER_01: More direct than me.
- 10:31SPEAKER_05: Take it or leave it.
- 10:34SPEAKER_01: And so um, she just she wouldn't stop like talking to me, but like in a friendly way.
- 10:38SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what the heck?
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: I don't want to talk to anyone.
- 10:43SPEAKER_01: But we finished, we finished prayer, and she goes, Ricky, I wanted to tell you something.
- 10:49SPEAKER_01: My kids admire you greatly.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: And I was like, What?
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: She's like, Yeah, she's like, My kids, both my kids told me, she's like, of all the people people that have ever taught us at all, you're their favorite, you're their absolute favorite.
- 11:05SPEAKER_01: Like they are interested in what you have to say.
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: And I was like, What?
- 11:08SPEAKER_02: That's go after them.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 11:11SPEAKER_01: And so I just, yeah, I got all like, you know, I got like all emotional.
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: It's like, wow, that's crazy.
- 11:16SPEAKER_01: Long story short, we ended up, I ended up helping them.
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: They had like this weird immigration thing going on, and so I sat there and I read through the paperwork with them after church, and you know, like it was just like, wow, god, you you really orchestrate things in such weird ways.
- 11:30SPEAKER_01: Amen.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: And then Friday, we had an open panel for deep theological questions that the youth had.
- 11:37SPEAKER_01: Where does God come from?
- 11:39SPEAKER_01: How was he made if if all things you know exist and who made him?
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: Like how one one kid asked, How do I heal completely?
- 11:47SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: It was it was deep, it was really deep.
- 11:52SPEAKER_04: And and yeah, one kid they want the deep, they want the real answers.
- 11:56SPEAKER_02: Everybody does with the speaker-friendly stuff.
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, yeah, we are.
- 12:00SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right.
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: Um, anyway, that's that's the end of it, man.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: It's just been thing after thing that God has been super faithful, like super good.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: And I I can't tell you guys, man.
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't think I've ever enjoyed my prayer life ever as much as I do right now.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: Like, I I look forward to it, I deeply look forward to it every morning.
- 12:21SPEAKER_01: In fact, I haven't prayed today, and I'm like, dude, I really need to go spend some time with God.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: But anyway, we're here.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: It all came from this weird group.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: No, I kind of did.
- 12:29SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: It kind of did.
- 12:31SPEAKER_01: It kind of did anyway.
- 12:32SPEAKER_01: I just wanted to share that, man.
- 12:33SPEAKER_01: It's just it's super encouraging to me.
- 12:35SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
- 12:36SPEAKER_01: That is awesome.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: Thank God.
- 12:38SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 12:40SPEAKER_04: And the thing is with our our finances are so that's really, I don't know.
- 12:45SPEAKER_04: I feel like that's why there's so much talk, like about finances, the church.
- 12:49SPEAKER_04: There's so many series, there's so much like, because that's the last thing that we want to give up.
- 12:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 12:55SPEAKER_04: Like it's the last thing that we want to give up.
- 12:58SPEAKER_04: That's why God wants it.
- 12:59SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 12:59SPEAKER_04: Like, you can have control over, you know, this, but it's the flesh, right?
- 13:03SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't even want to.
- 13:04SPEAKER_04: I mean, our fasting time is very hard.
- 13:07SPEAKER_04: And there's plenty of times that I have been like, oh, that's right.
- 13:10SPEAKER_04: It's supposed to be fasting.
- 13:12SPEAKER_04: Because I'm just because I just am like, oh, snack, snack.
- 13:16SPEAKER_04: It's summertime.
- 13:16SPEAKER_04: There's snacks here, everybody's here.
- 13:18SPEAKER_04: You know, it's because you don't think about it.
- 13:21SPEAKER_04: And it's the same thing with finances, right?
- 13:23SPEAKER_04: Like, how many, how many microtransactions do we have like set up where it's like how many streaming services, how many this, how many that?
- 13:33SPEAKER_04: You know, where it's just like it comes out naturally from the bank account.
- 13:38SPEAKER_04: I hook the card up, and there's all kinds of like tips and tricks and stuff that you can do, but at the end of the day, it's a heart issue.
- 13:44SPEAKER_05: It is.
- 13:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's just your it's your heart.
- 13:47SPEAKER_04: It's I don't trust you with this because I have because I'm scared.
- 13:49SPEAKER_05: Well, and that's what Deuteronomy tells us.
- 13:51SPEAKER_05: Hallelujah! I am scared that tithing is to um grow our trust in God, yeah.
- 14:03SPEAKER_02: Because it's hard.
- 14:04SPEAKER_02: It is.
- 14:05SPEAKER_02: I love this conversation.
- 14:07SPEAKER_02: This is one of my favorite things to be.
- 14:08SPEAKER_02: Speak it, bro.
- 14:09SPEAKER_02: Tell us, man.
- 14:10SPEAKER_02: Seriously.
- 14:11SPEAKER_04: All right, tell us all the weird things that have happened since you started fasting.
- 14:14SPEAKER_02: So listen, tithing is something that the church hates talking about, but the reality of it is when you are in a kingdom, the king owns everything.
- 14:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah, resource.
- 14:28SPEAKER_02: And the quicker you like get into the mindset of it's not mine, anyways, the quicker all the possession and the pride and the ego, and I'm the provider, all that stuff fades away, man.
- 14:39SPEAKER_02: And then you really submit, you know, for me, because we have our own business.
- 14:44SPEAKER_02: My sort of setup has always been I will give my 10% wherever you want me to give it.
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: I will give whatever you tell me, whenever you tell me to give it.
- 14:52SPEAKER_02: And if that's the case, I know you'll take care of me.
- 14:55SPEAKER_02: And it's a weird thing, and it's hard, but me and my wife have seen this over and over, and it's manifested so many times in the reality, you know, from getting tickets on the side of the road, and I reminded God, hey, I gave the last of what I had in the 10% this morning, and the officer miswriting the ticket and handing me.
- 15:14SPEAKER_02: Like I've had these stories.
- 15:16SPEAKER_02: That's cool, and uh, you know, it's amazing.
- 15:18SPEAKER_02: It's wild stuff, and uh, you know, none of it's falsely fabricated, it's all real, it's just the understanding of you reap what you sow.
- 15:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and uh I I just believe the king's big enough.
- 15:30SPEAKER_02: Money's a resource.
- 15:31SPEAKER_02: We act like it's something special.
- 15:33SPEAKER_02: We if you make thirty thousand dollars a year, you are in the top one percent of the world.
- 15:38SPEAKER_02: People have no idea about that.
- 15:40SPEAKER_04: It's crazy.
- 15:41SPEAKER_04: You're absolutely right.
- 15:42SPEAKER_02: It's wild, you know, and like as Americans, we we have a lot, and yeah, we have a lot of debt.
- 15:49SPEAKER_02: And you know, one of my least favorite people to listen to, and it just rubs me the wrong way, if Dave Ramsey, I just I go nuts with because he binds people.
- 15:57SPEAKER_02: I know people that follow him like a cult leader, and uh he binds people in a Christian way.
- 16:04SPEAKER_02: Like, don't don't go get that coffee that makes you get through the day, don't do this, don't do that.
- 16:09SPEAKER_02: And it's nothing you shouldn't be doing, but he's telling you that keep away from debt.
- 16:14SPEAKER_02: Listen, we live in a system that runs on debt, you gotta use debt to manipulate everything.
- 16:20SPEAKER_05: Well, that's how you get rich.
- 16:21SPEAKER_05: I have a I have a super great friend who got some money, and he's like, if you get a loan for a hundred thousand dollars for your house, yeah, he loves it.
- 16:34SPEAKER_05: My husband's reading that he just will change your life.
- 16:39SPEAKER_02: Rich dad poor dad.
- 16:40SPEAKER_02: I gotta pay.
- 16:41SPEAKER_02: Because it's all perspective, right?
- 16:43SPEAKER_02: You know, it is you go, Oh, I don't have money for that.
- 16:46SPEAKER_02: And his rich dad, his friend's dad in the book literally is like, how do we get money for that?
- 16:52SPEAKER_05: It was always yeah, that friend of mine, that's exactly he said it was it was um sorry.
- 16:58SPEAKER_05: It he said that book was pivotal for him.
- 17:01SPEAKER_05: But he's like, if you get a loan for a hundred thousand dollars, don't go put it on your house.
- 17:06SPEAKER_05: Pay pay on your house monthly, put that into money making, put it into the money market and let it um let it grow for you passively.
- 17:18SPEAKER_05: He said, because then then that that growth is enough that you you pay the the rent, you pay the house payment, whatever, but you've got that money working for you, growing for you.
- 17:31SPEAKER_05: And I was like, it was like Danny and I have have had multiple discussions with him, and we're like, uh this is very difficult because I want to like I want to own my land outright.
- 17:44SPEAKER_05: I don't want the government to be but you never know what you don't because taxes, you never taxes will take it, and so unless especially in friggin' Texas, unless you bury somebody on your land.
- 17:54SPEAKER_04: I was just gonna say, I just heard about that.
- 17:56SPEAKER_04: Unless you bury it, depends upon where you live, but unless you bury somebody, you can you get a tax write off.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: Well, here's the thing, you know.
- 18:04SPEAKER_04: They can't charge you property taxes in some states.
- 18:06SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 18:07SPEAKER_01: Well that's that is fair.
- 18:08SPEAKER_01: Now, I I will say, unfortunately, you don't uh own the ground under your house, yeah, which is a wide thing.
- 18:16SPEAKER_05: Unless you buy, unless you buy mineral, you get you get to buy minimal mineral rights and water rights.
- 18:23SPEAKER_05: If you don't, then like eminent domain, dude, that's such a scary thing.
- 18:28SPEAKER_05: And and we see it in play a lot, and it seems to come into play in areas that have these crazy natural disasters, but I won't go into that conspiracy because really and they have crazy natural resources too.
- 18:44SPEAKER_01: It's so weird.
- 18:45SPEAKER_04: It's like it's like crazy rich people, yeah.
- 18:49SPEAKER_05: It's like the crazy access, the crazy it's so much amazing coincidence.
- 18:55SPEAKER_05: It's amazing.
- 18:56SPEAKER_05: I didn't I man, that much coincidence is just astonishing that is it's just coincidental.
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: Everything in life is coincidental, there's no such thing as God.
- 19:07SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's just coincidental, you know.
- 19:09SPEAKER_05: Conspiracies, but you know what?
- 19:11SPEAKER_05: I want to go back to to tithing for a second.
- 19:14SPEAKER_01: You don't want to come on a conspiracy route.
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: No, I'm good to get a couple.
- 19:18SPEAKER_05: I have two two things to to say about it.
- 19:21SPEAKER_05: The first one is um Abraham tithed when there was no church to tithe to, as did Jacob.
- 19:28SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he gave to Melchizedek.
- 19:30SPEAKER_05: Um, but then Jacob also told God, I will give you a tenth of all my stuff.
- 19:35SPEAKER_05: And there was there was not a there was there was Melchizedek was gone.
- 19:40SPEAKER_05: I don't know what he so I assume what he did is gave alms, and because that's what righteousness is in Judaism.
- 19:49SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's taking care of the widow, the sojourner, the orphan.
- 19:54SPEAKER_05: That that is what that is.
- 19:56SPEAKER_05: And so you know what I give to my church because it's my church, I love it, and I'm invested in it, but I give a lot outside.
- 20:04SPEAKER_05: But what I've really come to know, and this is the point I super want to make, is that God is the very essence of generosity.
- 20:16SPEAKER_05: Like no, there's nothing that he has not given everything we have, he has given.
- 20:25SPEAKER_05: And as we seek him more, seek his face more, want to know more about him, want every uh part of our life to honor him, we as as a side effect of it become more generous because God is generous and we want to emulate him.
- 20:45SPEAKER_05: And that's what that that's how you emulate him by being uh generous and and by being uh gracious and by wanting, yeah, justice.
- 20:57SPEAKER_05: Um gratitude doesn't benefit God.
- 21:06SPEAKER_05: Gratitude doesn't benefit whoever you're saying thank you to.
- 21:09SPEAKER_05: Gratitude, you are the primary beneficiary of gratitude, and we act like it's it's like it's not a a difficult thing or something hard.
- 21:22SPEAKER_05: It's not when God gives we give to others because God gave to others, us, us, we're the others, and so we want to to exemplify him until it becomes way less of oh, what is 10% of a thousand twenty bucks this week, you know?
- 21:43SPEAKER_05: It's hundred and twenty Well, it is it's it's a that's a very easy math problem, I know.
- 21:49SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 21:51SPEAKER_04: I stopped you know I stopped listening as soon as the numbers were involved.
- 21:57SPEAKER_02: But it's like a fossil it's like two twenty.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 22:01SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh.
- 22:01SPEAKER_05: If you're at some some churches, we won't even go there.
- 22:05SPEAKER_05: But um it's Pastor Benny is always like, guys, I'm not telling you this for my benefit, or so the church gets a lot of money because I happen to have the kind of church that everything that comes in goes back out in ministry.
- 22:23SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 22:23SPEAKER_05: Um and my pastor worked.
- 22:27SPEAKER_05: Uh now he's retired, but he he had a job and his wife had a job outside of just being the pastor of a church and taking your upkeep from the church.
- 22:40SPEAKER_05: Didn't do it.
- 22:41SPEAKER_05: So was Jesus.
- 22:42SPEAKER_05: Right?
- 22:43SPEAKER_05: So was Paul.
- 22:45SPEAKER_05: So, you know, and um he's always like, I don't want you to think this is me trying to get money so I can get a new car or whatever.
- 22:55SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 22:56SPEAKER_05: I mean, if you saw what he drives, you would understand that his heart, man, it's it's legit.
- 23:02SPEAKER_05: But he's like, I know people talk about money a lot, and when I get up and when I talk of, you know, during our offering section of the service, you know, he's still very uncomfortable doing it after 40 years of of ministry.
- 23:19SPEAKER_05: And I get it because people have a tendency to misunderstand it.
- 23:24SPEAKER_05: Oh, here comes a fundraising part, you know.
- 23:27SPEAKER_05: But now I I'm also blessed enough to be at a church that there are quite a few people who understand God is generous and I love him, and I'm trying to reflect him, therefore I am going to be generous because I want the kingdom of God to be uh filled.
- 23:49SPEAKER_05: I I I it's like I love the uh the part in Revelations where they can't count the people worshiping before the throne and the verbiage there is just like this innumerable amount of people worshiping before the the throne and praising God.
- 24:11SPEAKER_05: And um I want to make sure that that is the case, you know, and and especially that mine are numbered among them more than anything.
- 24:20SPEAKER_05: If if I have more compassion for a stranger on the street than I do for my own children or uh siblings, my my priorities need evaluating.
- 24:35SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, so I I want to fill that up and and and churches don't do well on a hope and a in a prayer, they need they need people to fund it.
- 24:49SPEAKER_05: It's true, and God does He does crazy things, he well it it's also it's also a catch 22 for for Western Christians, right?
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: Like I I got so messed up.
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: I think I told you this shell, but when I found out that in the old testament the word for idol is an adjective, it's not a noun, I went, what in the crap does that even mean?
- 25:17SPEAKER_01: Like, how does that how is how is idol a descriptor and it's not a thing?
- 25:22SPEAKER_01: Like that's weird, right?
- 25:24SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
- 25:25SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, very and so I think that that we have such an obsession with Newtonian physicality, and by that I mean the things we call physical being necessary.
- 25:37SPEAKER_01: The only physical things that are necessary for the church are us, that's right.
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: We are what are necessary.
- 25:43SPEAKER_01: We are the church.
- 25:44SPEAKER_01: So when we start talking about the reason that we have funds is for upkeeping the church, it's like, well, what do you actually mean by that?
- 25:52SPEAKER_01: Like, what does that mean?
- 25:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know, right?
- 25:55SPEAKER_01: You won't be in the church for very long.
- 25:57SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 25:58SPEAKER_01: And I mean, like the question is, what what where is our heart going?
- 26:07SPEAKER_01: And I don't have any problem with you know help funding to upkeep the building where we meet and we worship and we gather corporately.
- 26:15SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't have any problem with that.
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: But if we leave the place we're at tomorrow and we go to a a school library and that's where we meet, well then fine, whatever, right?
- 26:25SPEAKER_01: Like we don't at least we don't have to pay rent anymore, right?
- 26:27SPEAKER_01: We don't have to pay for any of the upkeep.
- 26:29SPEAKER_05: Um or if we turn the building that we meet into a place where community comes to have their needs met, which is a whole different realm, right?
- 26:38SPEAKER_05: Whole different realm.
- 26:39SPEAKER_05: Yep, that and that's exactly what we're supposed to be, right?
- 26:42SPEAKER_05: We're supposed to be the hospital, we're supposed to be the the place.
- 26:47SPEAKER_01: But you know what, guys?
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: Also, I'm sorry, Charlotte.
- 26:49SPEAKER_01: I didn't mean to cut you off.
- 26:50SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
- 26:50SPEAKER_05: No, you're it you're good.
- 26:52SPEAKER_05: I'm just we're supposed to be the place that elevates the community.
- 26:56SPEAKER_01: And and all I was gonna say about that is that the most difficult thing about that is that that requires trust.
- 27:05SPEAKER_02: A lot of it.
- 27:06SPEAKER_01: And that requires that well, it's it's also leaves you highly, highly vulnerable, right?
- 27:11SPEAKER_01: And I know like I'll I'll be the first one to tell you like I know Pat probably ever pat every pastor I've ever met has been burned.
- 27:18SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's most definitely it's you know, it's part of the the job description.
- 27:23SPEAKER_01: Like you can't even write a resume to work as a pastor anywhere else unless you say, I got burned real bad.
- 27:28SPEAKER_05: You know, like that's gotta be and not I got burned by some con man outside of the group.
- 27:36SPEAKER_05: I got burned by a fellow believer, yeah, by my associate pastor.
- 27:44SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, gosh.
- 27:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's always the ones that are closest to you.
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: And then that's what hurts the most, right?
- 27:49SPEAKER_01: Like, and so I I have immense, immense respect for pastors because they grow they go through insane heartache.
- 27:59SPEAKER_01: Like my wife has told me, she's like, I do not want to be in ministry.
- 28:02SPEAKER_01: She's like, that's freaking hard.
- 28:04SPEAKER_01: She's like, no, thank you.
- 28:05SPEAKER_01: Do we have the same wife?
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, maybe right.
- 28:10SPEAKER_01: Wait, does she speak Spanish?
- 28:12SPEAKER_01: No, I'm gonna know what she does.
- 28:14SPEAKER_02: Her middle name.
- 28:17SPEAKER_01: Um getting weird.
- 28:19SPEAKER_05: Yeah, oh don't have that corner.
- 28:23SPEAKER_01: Do we just become more when the word says that we have to have all things in common?
- 28:26SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's what it means.
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: So far, you took it too far.
- 28:31SPEAKER_01: It it's rough.
- 28:34SPEAKER_01: Sorry, guys, sorry.
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: Forgive me, forgive me.
- 28:36SPEAKER_01: Come back, come back.
- 28:37SPEAKER_01: Um so I think that that that's really difficult, right?
- 28:40SPEAKER_01: Like that that that is really difficult.
- 28:43SPEAKER_01: It's not easy to be vulnerable like that.
- 28:45SPEAKER_01: And when you've been burned once and then you have to do it again, I mean, how many times did Jesus get burned?
- 28:50SPEAKER_01: Like really, Jesus got burned over and over at the end of the day.
- 28:53SPEAKER_01: What does he say about it?
- 28:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and then he was like, I consider it a joy, right?
- 28:59SPEAKER_05: Right, a joy to be turn turn the other cheek, man.
- 29:02SPEAKER_05: They they steal your your cloak, give them give them your inner garment too.
- 29:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: And and and I and the well, the powerful thing about that too, right, is that you you use humility to humiliate, which is really the ultimate.
- 29:20SPEAKER_01: I mean, geez, like what else, what can you even say to that, right?
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: Like it's like it it it's it's really powerful.
- 29:26SPEAKER_01: Um anyway, I'm the only thing I'm getting at here is that we we have to to be a church, we have to trust, and trusting is extremely painful or can be.
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: Um, C.S.
- 29:39SPEAKER_01: Lewis, uh, he he has this really cool quote.
- 29:41SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna butcher it because I don't I don't remember how it's phrased exactly, but essentially he says the bravest person in the world is the one that loves because he has something to lose.
- 29:51SPEAKER_01: If you love nothing and you love no one, nothing is of any risk to you, right?
- 29:57SPEAKER_01: And so I mean that that's part of it, and that really shoot, man.
- 30:01SPEAKER_01: If we want to bring it back to to the home, to the deepest part and the hardest part to deal with, it's it's money, right?
- 30:06SPEAKER_04: Like, oh my gosh, yeah.
- 30:09SPEAKER_01: That's if you can shell some money out for somebody that you know you're probably hurting for, you definitely know that you love that person, and that's the best way to show it, honestly, which is not easy, it's not easy at all.
- 30:20SPEAKER_02: It's not this is a powerful like tithing that's like.
- 30:24SPEAKER_05: I thought we were going to money, no kidding.
- 30:27SPEAKER_02: But you know what?
- 30:28SPEAKER_02: Money, the love making my and like the romance of money is literally captivating the next generations because that's all you're seeing with the crypto, that's all you're seeing with you know, all these, you know, Maserati, everybody on Instagram, Facebook, check out my best of the best, you know.
- 30:46SPEAKER_02: And I see it, we all see it.
- 30:48SPEAKER_02: And you know, for me, what really broke me out of working for people, because we have our own business, and what broke me out of that was it was a realization of you know, the slave mindset is you gotta live within your means.
- 31:02SPEAKER_02: God's mindset has always been abundance.
- 31:05SPEAKER_02: You know, Christians want to really crack down on this, but the reality is Solomon would have been very wealthy, right?
- 31:13SPEAKER_02: So Solomon and himself, and I'm sure that could lead to mispurification and all these different things.
- 31:19SPEAKER_02: And it really comes based out of where you source yourself.
- 31:22SPEAKER_02: If God tells you to give and you give freely, you know, I think it's Ann Stanley that says, with great responsibility, or with what is it, great res great power becomes great responsibility, right?
- 31:35SPEAKER_02: So if we can't handle the little stuff, we'll never be able to handle the big stuff.
- 31:39SPEAKER_02: And I think that's where the 10%, the 10% tithe has changed my life, it changed our family's life.
- 31:45SPEAKER_02: And I'm not saying you're going to become a millionaire, get rich, all this, but you will be fully taken care of.
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: Well, the purpose of the tithe is to change your mindset, like that's what God is trying to do.
- 31:55SPEAKER_05: Right, not to grow your bank account, exactly.
- 31:57SPEAKER_02: Not to grow your bank account, a hundred percent.
- 32:00SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, the king system is you have dominion over things, so that's like a business ownership or whatever it may be, right, guys?
- 32:07SPEAKER_02: It's so interesting that you say that.
- 32:09SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, Sean.
- 32:11SPEAKER_05: No, that's it.
- 32:11SPEAKER_05: Your territory, that's all I was gonna say.
- 32:14SPEAKER_01: Um I get so used to Shelly and I are like talking over each other on our podcast, and I'm like, sorry, do you go ahead?
- 32:19SPEAKER_01: Um but I think that it's so funny, guys, when I was telling you about how like I just I finally told my wife, I was like, just don't worry about it, just just stop worrying about it.
- 32:30SPEAKER_01: I I don't know, I can't really explain why, I can't express why, but I'm just like God's gonna take care of it, and I'm not I'm genuinely not worried about it.
- 32:38SPEAKER_01: And it's it's that, right?
- 32:40SPEAKER_01: Like it's knowing that whatever I decide to give and whatever and and and the tie that I give and whatever else I decide to give additionally, God's gonna honor it.
- 32:49SPEAKER_01: Like I have to have the right mentality about it, though, right?
- 32:52SPEAKER_01: Like it, nothing's mine, nothing is mine, I'm not my own, right?
- 32:58SPEAKER_01: Like this body doesn't even belong to me.
- 33:00SPEAKER_01: It's not it's out on loan, honestly, right?
- 33:02SPEAKER_02: And so speaking, man, that's that's the battle.
- 33:05SPEAKER_02: You're speaking it.
- 33:06SPEAKER_02: Life and death come through that tongue, man.
- 33:07SPEAKER_02: There we go.
- 33:08SPEAKER_02: You're speaking, God got this.
- 33:10SPEAKER_02: Don't even worry about it because God will take care of it, God will meet you there.
- 33:13SPEAKER_01: And the cool thing is, I know that.
- 33:15SPEAKER_01: Like when when I finally came to this piece, it was like, oh yeah.
- 33:20SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 33:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
- 33:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
- 33:23SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm gonna stop worrying about if I got old equipment or I got old this or I got old that, or I don't have what I'm looking at.
- 33:29SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, well then fine.
- 33:30SPEAKER_01: You know, it's it's okay, like it's gonna come.
- 33:32SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna sweat it.
- 33:32SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it, right?
- 33:36SPEAKER_01: Like it's just not, it's not worth it.
- 33:37SPEAKER_01: I it was so crazy.
- 33:38SPEAKER_01: My wife sent me this.
- 33:39SPEAKER_01: It's so funny.
- 33:40SPEAKER_01: My poor wife, she's she's so sweet.
- 33:42SPEAKER_01: She was like, she's really frustrated about this, and then you know, because this is how it is, right?
- 33:47SPEAKER_01: Like I'm reading this really simple book right now, and it's it's really good.
- 33:53SPEAKER_01: Um, and like all things, you know, I I find things here and there, I'm like, ah, I don't agree with that.
- 33:57SPEAKER_01: But then right, there's some really profound truths that just like mess me up.
- 34:00SPEAKER_01: And one this is one of the ones I didn't even get, I totally forgot about, but one of the ones he this guy says, he's a pastor from Argentina, and I picked up his book so I could start reading Spanish a little bit more, you know, brush up and learn new words, so and so forth.
- 34:15SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'm terrible.
- 34:17SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 34:17SPEAKER_01: But if you want to pass a court exam, well, you gotta kind of be decent.
- 34:21SPEAKER_05: So you are very, very good at shut up, Ricky.
- 34:25SPEAKER_05: People don't know that English is your first language so much of the time.
- 34:30SPEAKER_05: I mean, they don't also don't know that you're fluent in Chinese, but anyway.
- 34:33SPEAKER_01: I know well, sort of fluent, yeah.
- 34:35SPEAKER_01: It's all right.
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: Um, but he says, I did this like messed me up, guys.
- 34:40SPEAKER_01: And this is one I real this is part of the reason I realized, like, dude, nothing is nothing is mine.
- 34:45SPEAKER_01: Like, it it not that you don't hear it and you, you know, like you repeat it like a mantra.
- 34:50SPEAKER_01: Like, I know that Christians say that stuff, but when you realize nothing is yours, like your life changes.
- 34:57SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 34:57SPEAKER_01: This phrase he says is the one of the one of the worst poisons for my church is the belief that the end game is self-realization.
- 35:09SPEAKER_01: I went, holy crap, like we are so backwards, and that's all we're doing on social media.
- 35:15SPEAKER_01: That's all we do all day on social media is that we're we're trying to build this digital empire for ourselves, literally.
- 35:24SPEAKER_04: And you know what the craziest is.
- 35:26SPEAKER_04: Oh, go ahead, Jesse.
- 35:27SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, go ahead.
- 35:28SPEAKER_04: Well, I was gonna say, like, when you were saying that, like when he about like you know, having peace with everything and then realizing that nothing is yours, the counterfeit we see now in culture, because what we want, what the the the powers that be in culture want us to experience is oh, you'll own nothing and you'll be happier.
- 35:51SPEAKER_04: And it's like, no, that's a complete lie of the enemy.
- 35:55SPEAKER_04: That's good.
- 35:55SPEAKER_04: That's like no, as soon as you said that, I was like, oh, kind of like the counterfeit of you'll own nothing and be so happy, but that's not peace, right?
- 36:04SPEAKER_05: Happiness is in peace, like God owns the cattle on the thousand hills, guys.
- 36:09SPEAKER_05: Keep going.
- 36:10SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna hop off real quick.
- 36:12SPEAKER_01: I'll be right back.
- 36:12SPEAKER_01: Just keep let it run.
- 36:14SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 36:16SPEAKER_05: It's a matter of and in the sounds, I don't know, so churchy to say, but can't get out of the way.
- 36:23SPEAKER_05: That part is not the churchy part.
- 36:27SPEAKER_05: But the it's about building the kingdom when the kingdom's your focus, yeah.
- 36:33SPEAKER_05: Um everything else is just a tool to be used to build God's kingdom.
- 36:40SPEAKER_05: Everything that you do and say then is to be a reflection of him.
- 36:47SPEAKER_05: I I don't know how often you guys pray, Lord, help me to make you look good, help help me to get out of the way so that you are who is seen in me.
- 36:57SPEAKER_05: And it's funny when strangers are like, oh, I like your shirt, oh I like your glasses, oh, I like your hair.
- 37:02SPEAKER_05: I'm like, no, not really.
- 37:04SPEAKER_05: What you like is the Jesus inside of me.
- 37:06SPEAKER_05: You just don't know how to articulate that because my hair is not that great, you know.
- 37:11SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh, it's the it's the Jesus.
- 37:14SPEAKER_05: The hair is awesome.
- 37:15SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, whatever.
- 37:16SPEAKER_05: Wasn't fishing.
- 37:17SPEAKER_05: My my point really is though, I've come to realize that over years, you know, when people are like, Oh, it's your vibe.
- 37:23SPEAKER_05: No, it's my Jesus, man.
- 37:25SPEAKER_05: That's the Holy Ghost.
- 37:26SPEAKER_05: You're you're getting the Holy Ghost Shelly.
- 37:28SPEAKER_05: Shelly is a piece of crap, man.
- 37:30SPEAKER_05: Shelly is mean, she thinks horrible things, uh, her mouth is is not fit to be around grandmothers or young children a lot of the time.
- 37:40SPEAKER_05: Um it but the the Holy Spirit in me, that's what draws people, it's not really me.
- 37:47SPEAKER_05: And I and I know because it's the Holy Spirit in me that draws people, they think, Oh, it's you, but it's not, it's it's him, he's beautiful beyond all things.
- 37:59SPEAKER_05: We're beautiful in our season, it's a different thing, yeah.
- 38:04SPEAKER_04: But it's and that's hard to remember.
- 38:07SPEAKER_04: It is, especially when somebody cuts you off.
- 38:10SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh.
- 38:11SPEAKER_05: If somebody's yelling at you for something that the warehouse did, I mean, yeah, I know.
- 38:17SPEAKER_02: Listen, bro, I will throw hands at any moment.
- 38:21SPEAKER_02: I'm always wearing it.
- 38:22SPEAKER_04: Are you kidding me?
- 38:23SPEAKER_04: I have been in a position in my life where I'm driving in my car and it's like I'm praying.
- 38:29SPEAKER_04: I am in the middle of praying.
- 38:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 38:33SPEAKER_04: On like a whole, I'm praying.
- 38:35SPEAKER_04: I'm really I'm inner face.
- 38:39SPEAKER_04: I am interceding for somebody right now.
- 38:41SPEAKER_04: And then some and then literally, I'm just like, seriously, you idiot?
- 38:44SPEAKER_04: And then I'm like, wow, how whole what a holy moment that was.
- 38:47SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 38:47SPEAKER_04: I'm like, God, do you want to even hear the worship coming anymore?
- 38:52SPEAKER_05: I've been there, done that in the vehicle, especially.
- 38:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah, here I am.
- 38:58SPEAKER_04: I'm at the throne, and look at that idiot.
- 39:02SPEAKER_05: And that's just stupid person.
- 39:05SPEAKER_05: They must be morally reprehensible.
- 39:07SPEAKER_05: It can't be that they're late or that they really didn't see me, you know, when they're blind spot or whatever.
- 39:13SPEAKER_05: No, no.
- 39:13SPEAKER_05: It's exactly it's that they're mentally deficient.
- 39:16SPEAKER_04: There's something wrong with them.
- 39:18SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 39:19SPEAKER_05: But when I do the same thing, it's because I'm in a hurry, or oops, I didn't see you, my bad, or and they have no patience for me.
- 39:26SPEAKER_04: When how horrible are they?
- 39:27SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 39:28SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 39:28SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 39:29SPEAKER_04: There's traffic will speak out of you.
- 39:32SPEAKER_05: There's a wonderful, wonderful um tenet that I try to live by, and sometimes I succeed.
- 39:40SPEAKER_05: And it is to judge people on their intentions and to judge myself on my actions instead of the other way around, judging people based on their actions and judging myself by my intentions because I'll cut myself a break every time.
- 39:56SPEAKER_05: Oh, for sure.
- 39:57SPEAKER_05: You know, yeah, but when we reverse that and do what it's what is not normal for us to do and give other people the benefit of the doubt, it changes something in us, and driving that is almost impossible to do.
- 40:14SPEAKER_05: Almost impossible.
- 40:16SPEAKER_05: I I've I I could be the nicest person until road rage, man.
- 40:20SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 40:21SPEAKER_02: My guys are always like, You okay?
- 40:23SPEAKER_05: I'm like, no, I'm not like, come on, it's pretty level.
- 40:28SPEAKER_02: I'm usually laughing, joking, but when I drive, man, there's I think it has a lot to do with the music.
- 40:34SPEAKER_02: I really do.
- 40:34SPEAKER_02: I always say this the 440 frequency is there to agitate you.
- 40:39SPEAKER_02: Which and I always think about that.
- 40:41SPEAKER_05: Remind me 444?
- 40:43SPEAKER_02: No, 440.
- 40:45SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's what all music is.
- 40:47SPEAKER_05: 440, 440, 432.
- 40:49SPEAKER_02: 432's the nature, the alignment is nature.
- 40:53SPEAKER_05: Okay, so there's this group called Mountains in the sea or mountain in the sea.
- 41:00SPEAKER_05: They have a brand new uh album out called 444.
- 41:05SPEAKER_05: How about that?
- 41:06SPEAKER_05: Okay, and so I was like, I I don't know, they came across, I don't know, Facebook or Insta something, and I was like, huh, okay.
- 41:15SPEAKER_05: Let's go see.
- 41:16SPEAKER_05: And so I went and looked them up on my Pandora and downloaded um their album that is not 444.
- 41:24SPEAKER_05: I don't know if maybe that one hasn't hit Pandora yet.
- 41:27SPEAKER_05: Oh, but it's lovely music, man.
- 41:30SPEAKER_05: Really?
- 41:30SPEAKER_05: I have to check it out.
- 41:31SPEAKER_05: What's the name of it?
- 41:32SPEAKER_05: Mountains in the Sea.
- 41:34SPEAKER_05: Oh Mountain in the Sea.
- 41:37SPEAKER_02: You ever hear of Walk Off the Earth?
- 41:39SPEAKER_05: No.
- 41:39SPEAKER_05: Who?
- 41:40SPEAKER_02: So they were real big on YouTube and uh they do a lot of music, but their whole sort of spin was they don't do the 440.
- 41:48SPEAKER_02: And they do very popular songs in those moments, but they do it at 432, and it's so much better.
- 41:56SPEAKER_02: It's so much better.
- 41:57SPEAKER_02: Go listen to their hippies.
- 41:59SPEAKER_04: Oh, I've heard of them.
- 42:00SPEAKER_04: I follow them on Instagram.
- 42:02SPEAKER_05: I would like to have a 432 playlist, you know.
- 42:07SPEAKER_05: I've heard it makes me sad that Christian artists don't do it, and and so much time they're adding to the noise instead of being different.
- 42:21SPEAKER_04: Uh I'm gonna try that out because I don't know if I can even tell a different like I don't even know if I can tell you.
- 42:28SPEAKER_02: You'll tell the difference.
- 42:29SPEAKER_05: So I can I can tell a difference.
- 42:31SPEAKER_05: Sometimes when I'm oh and I should have done that today.
- 42:35SPEAKER_05: Um the last so from fasting, I was exhausted yesterday before my fast was over.
- 42:43SPEAKER_05: Um, because I started Wednesday night at sundown or before sundown, you know.
- 42:48SPEAKER_05: I was like Wednesday night, I was like, I'm gonna have one more cookie before it's dark, and then I didn't, and I was like, Well, I guess I'm gonna have a cookie some other time.
- 42:57SPEAKER_05: But um by by yesterday at six, my brain was fried.
- 43:03SPEAKER_05: My boss was like, You really should leave.
- 43:06SPEAKER_05: And I was like, Oh man, yeah, I really should leave.
- 43:08SPEAKER_05: And then I I did, I went home, but I I was exhausted, exhausted, and so I was crabby, you know, and I'm like, no, Shelly, you are not allowed to be crabby while you're fasting, son.
- 43:21SPEAKER_05: That is not what you get to do.
- 43:23SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, but then today, like I went in and and I I have a I a job, I'm a supervisor, I get to deal with the escalations and whatever.
- 43:34SPEAKER_05: And I was just like, I am so crabby today.
- 43:38SPEAKER_05: And my my um my partner was like girl, go get a coffee.
- 43:44SPEAKER_05: I was like, I already had coffee.
- 43:46SPEAKER_05: Um but I was like, no, I can't.
- 43:50SPEAKER_05: I I know go get a coffee.
- 43:51SPEAKER_05: I was like, nope, I can only have one.
- 43:53SPEAKER_05: I can only have one coffee a day because my knees don't like multiple cups of coffee.
- 43:59SPEAKER_05: No, yeah.
- 44:00SPEAKER_05: It hurts my joints.
- 44:01SPEAKER_02: But it's because it's garbage coffee.
- 44:04SPEAKER_05: It is because it's garbage coffee.
- 44:06SPEAKER_05: And I just don't know what is the good coffee to even try to find.
- 44:10SPEAKER_05: Organic.
- 44:10SPEAKER_05: Find organic.
- 44:11SPEAKER_05: Oh, come on.
- 44:12SPEAKER_05: Well, more than that, because even organic still has a lot of the um the fungus in it, the mold.
- 44:18SPEAKER_04: It's really like the freshest.
- 44:20SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 44:20SPEAKER_04: My friend Coff Coffee Core, the episode that I did.
- 44:24SPEAKER_04: Um, he's actually making coffee again.
- 44:27SPEAKER_04: Like he's he's gonna be roasting his own coffee again.
- 44:29SPEAKER_05: So it's like oh well, his whole thing give me a link because I will pay the money.
- 44:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah, find him on Instagram, just coffee core.
- 44:36SPEAKER_04: But like he his whole thing is like if you it has to be like really fresh, it's how fresh.
- 44:42SPEAKER_04: It's all about the fresh roast the beans.
- 44:44SPEAKER_04: And then if they just sit, then mold becomes mold.
- 44:47SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and then it's that I think that's what really I don't even think it's the caffeine that makes my joints hurt.
- 44:54SPEAKER_05: I think it's the molding mold is bad.
- 44:57SPEAKER_05: It's it's not a good thing.
- 44:59SPEAKER_02: Can I say ivermectin on here?
- 45:01SPEAKER_05: Can I say that?
- 45:02SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, I don't see why not.
- 45:04SPEAKER_05: I think you just see those.
- 45:06SPEAKER_02: I take ivermectin and fembenazole for parasite battles.
- 45:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
- 45:11SPEAKER_02: I just restarted it.
- 45:12SPEAKER_05: I am just starting to find out more about um parasites.
- 45:19SPEAKER_05: Me too.
- 45:19SPEAKER_05: And I'm having a never done.
- 45:21SPEAKER_05: What am I gonna do?
- 45:23SPEAKER_02: Biblical.
- 45:24SPEAKER_05: Uh the the fasting we do, like, oh, that's where I was gonna go.
- 45:29SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
- 45:30SPEAKER_05: So, like on the nope, you're good.
- 45:33SPEAKER_05: On Tuesday and on Wednesday, I'm like, I get to fast, I get to fast, I get to fast.
- 45:37SPEAKER_05: I'm so excited about it.
- 45:39SPEAKER_05: Then Wednesday, I'm like, I want my popcorn, I can smell it.
- 45:43SPEAKER_05: I want my popcorn.
- 45:44SPEAKER_05: I cannot have my popcorn.
- 45:46SPEAKER_05: It is okay.
- 45:47SPEAKER_05: There will be popcorn later.
- 45:49SPEAKER_02: There will be popcorn later.
- 45:51SPEAKER_05: Everybody's like, hey, here's where we're going for lunch.
- 45:53SPEAKER_05: Oh, hey, we're doing this for lunch.
- 45:55SPEAKER_05: Oh, we're doing this for lunch on Thursday.
- 45:58SPEAKER_05: It's so hard.
- 45:58SPEAKER_05: And so I I know don't make a big deal out of fasting when you're fasting, but I've told my co-workers, hey, I'm not eating today.
- 46:06SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's right.
- 46:07SPEAKER_05: This is your fast day, or why aren't you eating today?
- 46:10SPEAKER_05: And then I'm like, uh, because I fast on Thursdays, and I just let it go with that, you know, and then it's easier for them because they're not uh feeling awkward about why won't Shelly eat when I yeah, what's wrong with her?
- 46:21SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, right.
- 46:21SPEAKER_02: You don't want to make it like so I'm like I'm a sari and that's a big deal.
- 46:25SPEAKER_05: I'm like, it's it's just uh I I fast every Thursday and I'm like, I want to fast more.
- 46:29SPEAKER_05: I want to fast to the point that I'm in full this sounds weird, full ketosis and so that my body is doing it is eating the the crappy things, the yeah, the the bad proteins in it and getting rid of the stuff it needs to get rid of.
- 46:50SPEAKER_05: But also, while every time I get hungry, I bring somebody to the Lord.
- 46:57SPEAKER_05: That's what I do.
- 46:57SPEAKER_05: Okay, Father.
- 46:59SPEAKER_05: I want to eat right now.
- 47:00SPEAKER_05: I remember why I'm doing this.
- 47:03SPEAKER_05: This is the thing I'm bringing before you.
- 47:05SPEAKER_05: And and I bring lots of things, you know.
- 47:07SPEAKER_05: I don't think I have to ask God 5,000 times, you know, to help my children conceive.
- 47:12SPEAKER_05: I don't think that's what I have to do.
- 47:14SPEAKER_05: I think he knows it is on my heart, it is on it, it matters to me all the time, and I believe that it matters to him and that he is going to do the best thing.
- 47:24SPEAKER_05: And and so I don't have to every time I smell somebody something because when I fast, I do water.
- 47:32SPEAKER_05: I do water, and uh I'm gonna say this thing, I'm glad Ricky's not on yet.
- 47:37SPEAKER_05: So I vape.
- 47:39SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I vaped for years and I vape nicotine free.
- 47:44SPEAKER_05: They made laws stricter, and now you get these pre-done things, and they all have nicotine, and I hate nicotine.
- 47:51SPEAKER_05: Um but I am very used to to hitting my vape.
- 47:56SPEAKER_05: So Thursday, I I'm not fasting from food.
- 48:02SPEAKER_05: I'm fasting from this.
- 48:05SPEAKER_04: Well, you know what's crazy?
- 48:06SPEAKER_04: Like, I was gonna bring that up because I've been it's been really hard for me.
- 48:10SPEAKER_04: Like I said, it's not I I I'll get to a certain point in the day and then I'm just like oh right, like and forget, you know, like I get busy and then it just because I'm not reminding myself.
- 48:21SPEAKER_05: You made your sign a PBNJ and took a bite of it just because, you know, was it?
- 48:26SPEAKER_05: Exactly, right?
- 48:26SPEAKER_04: Like, and I and I'm not used to I'm really not used to like fasting like that.
- 48:31SPEAKER_04: So for me it's been challenging, but I'm still like on board and we never really put on like ramifications, like we never said, okay, only water or water and juice.
- 48:42SPEAKER_04: You know why?
- 48:43SPEAKER_04: No food.
- 48:44SPEAKER_05: So when I first started fasting several years ago, I the first thing I fasted was buying food, fast food.
- 48:53SPEAKER_05: So I made myself bring to work whatever, and then I started fasting from crap food, all of it, all easy food.
- 49:03SPEAKER_05: So I prepared whatever, and then I took out meat, took out dairy, took out bread, only ate vegetables.
- 49:09SPEAKER_05: Um, then I went to okay, well, I can have juice, and then I I have I have worked up to the point where I'm like, okay, I'm not having anything but water and vaping, which means so asinine.
- 49:24SPEAKER_05: Well, no, it's kind of embarrassing to say.
- 49:27SPEAKER_04: It doesn't because it it actually it's kind of, I guess, like for me, it's like I was getting frustrated with myself, and then I kind of brought that to the Lord and I was like, all right, I'm I'm I suck at this, like I'm not good, like I have all these great accountability people, like everything is put in place for me not to fail, and I still cannot like I have zero self-control, and or I forget that we're fasting.
- 49:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 49:49SPEAKER_05: Um, but I can do better too.
- 49:52SPEAKER_05: I can remind everybody on that morning because I'm kind of like, uh, but then everybody's gonna be like, oh, there's Shelly, the crosswalk monitor.
- 49:59SPEAKER_05: I think it's great.
- 50:00SPEAKER_04: Like, I think I think it's great.
- 50:02SPEAKER_04: But the thing is, it kind of like for me, I feel like God is just kind of revealing things.
- 50:08SPEAKER_04: Like, okay, well, think about what you're putting in your body.
- 50:13SPEAKER_04: So now I'm like listening.
- 50:14SPEAKER_04: Now stuff is really happening where I'm hearing, like, he's he's presenting me with the right content, and I'm listening to like I was just listening to um the Sixth Sensory podcast with Tim Constantine like yesterday, and they were talking about fasting.
- 50:29SPEAKER_03: Oh, and I wrote it down.
- 50:30SPEAKER_04: Hold on, what is it?
- 50:31SPEAKER_04: What is it called?
- 50:32SPEAKER_04: Oh, what's this thing called that he was it's some I'll have to look it up.
- 50:37SPEAKER_04: Oh man, I can't.
- 50:38SPEAKER_04: They were talking about all kinds of stuff, like, but there's this one mineral that that he had this guy on, and this is like what this guy like sources and gets.
- 50:47SPEAKER_04: And it's a mineral that is supposed to be this like super mineral or whatever.
- 50:51SPEAKER_04: So they were talking about fasting, but it's just it's been really cool because I feel like God is taking me back to more natural, like you said, Shelly, getting rid of junk food.
- 51:04SPEAKER_04: Like, we're kind of at that part of the summer, anyway, where I'm like, oh my gosh, we've been eating Cheez Its and like cream pies.
- 51:11SPEAKER_04: Like, we are gonna get so fat, and this is the worst food for us ever.
- 51:15SPEAKER_04: Like, I'm trying to like clean out the pantry and stuff.
- 51:19SPEAKER_01: Fat is like the the least of what that stuff does to your body.
- 51:23SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know, starving cells, male.
- 51:26SPEAKER_01: I actually people are gonna be like, oh Ricky, thanks for sharing.
- 51:29SPEAKER_01: I had to run to the restroom.
- 51:31SPEAKER_01: Um okay and the reason that I'm mentioning that is because fasting is teaching me what I can put in my body even after I finish fasting.
- 51:39SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 51:40SPEAKER_01: Yes, it is really, I don't know about you guys, but for me, it is really hard to like go back into eating because my stomach slows down, like my intestine stops.
- 51:49SPEAKER_01: I mean, that happens to all of us, right?
- 51:50SPEAKER_01: Because we're not eating anything.
- 51:51SPEAKER_05: Right, nothing to process out.
- 51:54SPEAKER_01: And this time I was like, okay, I'm gonna eat something light, this and that.
- 51:58SPEAKER_01: And and even still, like my body's like, dude, what are you what are you doing, bro?
- 52:03SPEAKER_01: Like, don't give me that.
- 52:04SPEAKER_01: And so I'm like, okay, I gotta give myself fruit, I gotta give myself time to to to ease back into eating again.
- 52:11SPEAKER_01: I can't just jump on the train and be like, I just want to eat whatever I want.
- 52:14SPEAKER_01: So have a lot of people.
- 52:15SPEAKER_04: You have to break your fast.
- 52:17SPEAKER_04: Like, how does that work?
- 52:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah, breakfast.
- 52:20SPEAKER_01: Break in break out of your fast a little bit.
- 52:22SPEAKER_01: Break out of your fast.
- 52:24SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but it's crazy because he's just kind of revealing that stuff to me.
- 52:27SPEAKER_04: And I'm that's cool.
- 52:29SPEAKER_04: In in all of our conversations that we've been having, we've been talking about like Jesse and I had a great conversation about, you know, um, oh, look, there's Dark Waters just came on.
- 52:38SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
- 52:39SPEAKER_01: Hey, Dark Waters are I've never actually met you, and I love your show.
- 52:45SPEAKER_04: Thank you, sir.
- 52:46SPEAKER_04: Oh, thank you.
- 52:50SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh, I love him.
- 52:52SPEAKER_04: Oh, I feel sorry.
- 52:53SPEAKER_04: Why can't we heart and thumbs things up?
- 52:56SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 52:57SPEAKER_04: Oh, I can I can heart things.
- 52:59SPEAKER_04: The heart is there, hard heart.
- 53:01SPEAKER_04: But like, but the crazy thing is, it's just like um, you know, he's been slowly revealing in our conversation.
- 53:06SPEAKER_04: We're talking about kind of this whole rewilding, re-enchanting.
- 53:10SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 53:10SPEAKER_04: The fact that we don't even stand on ground anymore.
- 53:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 53:21SPEAKER_05: The rubber.
- 53:22SPEAKER_02: Yep, rubber and go stay, go touch grass.
- 53:26SPEAKER_02: It'll remove the pain in your joints.
- 53:28SPEAKER_02: 30% of all inflammation in your body is removed in 15 minutes of standing on the air.
- 53:33SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 53:33SPEAKER_02: Go do it.
- 53:34SPEAKER_05: I grew grass so I could go touch grass.
- 53:37SPEAKER_05: That's right.
- 53:38SPEAKER_05: Like for real, for real.
- 53:39SPEAKER_05: If I could move my camera over and you could see in my backyard, I mean you'd see grass.
- 53:44SPEAKER_02: Even on this podcast, like I have concrete, our houses are grounded, like if you know how things work.
- 53:50SPEAKER_02: And you know, great as we started this podcast, I always wore socks and shoes in my basement.
- 53:56SPEAKER_02: But something was like, take your socks off, put your feet on the ground.
- 53:59SPEAKER_02: And it was literally just spoken out of just talking here.
- 54:02SPEAKER_05: Isn't that crazy?
- 54:04SPEAKER_02: And I was like, how I don't have any shoes on either.
- 54:07SPEAKER_05: I'm as barefoot as could be.
- 54:08SPEAKER_05: I walked in the door and I kicked my shoes off.
- 54:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, you're like shoes on.
- 54:13SPEAKER_01: My my last name is Lee, and so we're honorary Asians because everybody takes their shoes off at the entrance.
- 54:18SPEAKER_01: Like, no, you're not bringing your shoes together.
- 54:20SPEAKER_02: I have home slippers that don't go outside.
- 54:22SPEAKER_04: So yeah, we don't wear shoes in the I don't like wearing shoes at all.
- 54:25SPEAKER_01: Do you guys slipper in boxes?
- 54:26SPEAKER_01: Do you guys wear it?
- 54:27SPEAKER_05: My husband wears shoes until he goes to bed.
- 54:32SPEAKER_05: He he just he is he is the shoe guy, but I am I am very oaky, and I have always been as barefoot as can be, and my grandbaby is the same way, man.
- 54:42SPEAKER_05: That well, actually, that kid is as naked as can be most of the time.
- 54:46SPEAKER_05: He doesn't want anything between him and the air.
- 54:50SPEAKER_05: He's like, no shoes, no anything.
- 54:53SPEAKER_05: No, he's like, I'm gonna pee in the backyard with the dog because that's what he does.
- 54:57SPEAKER_05: So that's what babies do.
- 55:00SPEAKER_05: It is it's definitely what boys do.
- 55:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but that's kind of like where he's been taking me with this is like really just kind of getting no nothing in backyard.
- 55:12SPEAKER_04: Although I had to ask, I had to answer a question of that the other day because my son was like, Can I just go in this backyard?
- 55:18SPEAKER_04: And I was like, No, you can't just no, we're gonna use a toilet like an adult.
- 55:22SPEAKER_05: With my boys, I was like, just I don't care.
- 55:26SPEAKER_05: I don't I don't care.
- 55:27SPEAKER_04: But no, just the idea of like getting back to, and I can't remember exactly what it was, but it's just like you know, that whole like home remedies, like we Jesse and I were talking about green witches and just like that whole idea of like green witches using herbs, and and I thought he was saying green witches, but I thought that was highlighting.
- 55:49SPEAKER_05: Yeah, understand him at all.
- 55:50SPEAKER_04: Low kitchen witch, kitchen witches.
- 55:54SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 55:54SPEAKER_04: But I said I was like, I have to get some astragulus, and this was kind of so this is kind of one of those crazy like synchronicities.
- 56:01SPEAKER_04: So they were talking about that in Tim's um in Sixth Century podcast about fasting, how like once you get to this, I don't know, they got a little esoteric, so it's kind of it was a different listen, but it's it was a really, really good episode.
- 56:14SPEAKER_04: They're talking about how you kind of level up and you start seeing more and more synchronicities, which I'm probably really scared of that.
- 56:22SPEAKER_04: But like yesterday, this is crazy, it was literally about to crazy storm, like everything kind of shut down here.
- 56:31SPEAKER_04: We've had these crazy storms here in Baltimore.
- 56:33SPEAKER_02: Well, this whole year to micro burst like crazy, yeah.
- 56:40SPEAKER_04: So my we I had all this groceries that I brought in, and my son helped and put something on the counter.
- 56:46SPEAKER_04: He never does this, and he ended up breaking a bottle of like tomato sauce.
- 56:52SPEAKER_04: And I was like, Well, that's like what we're having for dinner because I was making whatever, like tomato meat sauce.
- 56:58SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 56:58SPEAKER_04: So I was like, all right, well, I'm gonna run out really quick, and then I want to get back because it's about to like seriously torrential downboard.
- 57:04SPEAKER_04: I went to and I was like, Well, I don't feel like going to Giant.
- 57:08SPEAKER_04: I had this whole thing where I was like, Oh, I just want to get home.
- 57:11SPEAKER_04: So I literally just kind of giant.
- 57:16SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 57:16SPEAKER_04: So so like I just kind of was like, all right, H E B.
- 57:20SPEAKER_04: What am I doing?
- 57:21SPEAKER_03: I wish.
- 57:22SPEAKER_04: Well, we have this little market that it's like a little corner market, and they have fresh produce, it's like a farmer's market right here, like a block away.
- 57:29SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
- 57:30SPEAKER_04: So I went there, and my intention was to go there, and I was like, maybe I'll just make the sauce myself.
- 57:35SPEAKER_04: But then the crazy thing was I parked had to park further up and I walked past this store.
- 57:40SPEAKER_04: This store has been there for like 70 years, and I never go in it.
- 57:44SPEAKER_04: And it's a nature, it's called like nature's pantry or something like that.
- 57:48SPEAKER_04: And it's like literally just an herb store.
- 57:51SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I never go in there because I used to go to this other herb store that there it just it stopped being there, and I just kind of stopped.
- 57:59SPEAKER_04: Now I'm like, oh, I'll just go to mom's or I order stuff on Amazon.
- 58:03SPEAKER_04: I literally go in there, and this woman is delightfully miserable.
- 58:07SPEAKER_04: She's like 85, and she's just talking about how no one ever comes in and all the stuff.
- 58:12SPEAKER_04: She's like complaining up a storm, and I was like, Do you happen to have like a stragulus root?
- 58:18SPEAKER_04: And she was like, Oh, yeah, here's this.
- 58:20SPEAKER_04: She's got like every herb that I could ever want.
- 58:23SPEAKER_04: And a stragulus is really, really good.
- 58:26SPEAKER_04: It's kind of um, it's an adaptogen.
- 58:28SPEAKER_04: So, like, long story short, I basically was just kind of led like that.
- 58:33SPEAKER_00: Never would have happened if my son wouldn't have smashed a jar of you know, dig through the ditches and look through the wheels until you can find your straggling.
- 58:50SPEAKER_00: Rod zombie.
- 58:53SPEAKER_04: But the but the crazy thing is it's kind of cool to me because then I was like in my kitchen, and and it was like, oh wow, I never I never do this anymore.
- 59:03SPEAKER_04: Like I never spend time in my kitchen making a nourishing broth for my family anymore.
- 59:08SPEAKER_04: Like, why don't I do this?
- 59:09SPEAKER_04: You know, like this is the way we're meant to kind of be.
- 59:11SPEAKER_04: I know I'm going on a stupid tangent, but it's true, though.
- 59:14SPEAKER_04: It's actually any time doing that.
- 59:17SPEAKER_05: You're talking about a journey, Chris, that I think we've been on um for a while.
- 59:25SPEAKER_05: I know one of the good amazing things uh when when God brought Jess into our life was that um is is you know, we were like, oh, let's talk about frequencies.
- 59:39SPEAKER_05: And then we got into holistic medicine.
- 59:42SPEAKER_05: Well, I've always been a fan.
- 59:44SPEAKER_05: Um my first son was was birthed um at home with a midwife, and um I very much I I would have done all of my my baby birthing with a mid with midwives if the states I lived in um had allowed it.
- 1:00:02SPEAKER_05: But uh we've been on that journey too.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_05: I know how stupid it you know what are we doing?
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_05: I know these are the same people who say don't eat salt, don't eat butter, but here have all the triglycerides you want in in this stuff we call food that has uh it started as food.
- 1:00:24SPEAKER_05: Starchy goop, but then they they killed everything good in it, and then they enriched it with crap that our body can't obtain anyhow.
- 1:00:33SPEAKER_05: And they said this is good for you, and and then we wonder why we're sick.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_02: Well, because we're starving ourselves while we're feeding our vellum, it disconnects you from the creator, it's just one more step to make you dumb, make you docile.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_02: That's what fluorides in the water, we can go the whole way through this.
- 1:00:50SPEAKER_02: Listen, I God has just been really racking this on me and my wife, and she racks it on me because I love food.
- 1:00:58SPEAKER_02: I not I mean I grew up in a couple of things.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_04: I do too, yeah.
- 1:01:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I had a candy cover, my mom had a candy cover, so I love sugar, it's addictive, we love it, right?
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, God has really been shifting me because I've been doing intermittent fasting pretty much, you know, it's like the Hulk, I'm always angry, right?
- 1:01:16SPEAKER_05: Right, he's just angry.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_02: I know, but like coming into the fasting, like I'm not eating after dinner until pretty much dinner the next day.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_02: So and God is just revealing so much, and I think we were texting back and forth about you know, God was like, Hey bro, you know, gluttony is a sin, you need to stop stuffing your fat face.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_02: I know he's like, You wear that sin, you know that, right?
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, come on, bro.
- 1:01:45SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's harsh.
- 1:01:46SPEAKER_05: You made me an American, Lord.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_02: Right?
- 1:01:49SPEAKER_02: I was like, come on, all of our food is trash, and he's like, I know it is.
- 1:01:52SPEAKER_02: That's why we're trying to get you back to normal things from the earth, from the plainest of the but it's tomato pie season, Lord.
- 1:01:59SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah, no, tomato pie season.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_05: Dude, every time what that is, but can't you make it from scratch?
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_05: Because your grandma did.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_05: Yes, I do, I do, but it's literally mayonnaise.
- 1:02:08SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_05: Oh no.
- 1:02:10SPEAKER_05: I mean, you can make your own mayonnaise fresh, I guess.
- 1:02:13SPEAKER_05: But oh, that doesn't sound good to me.
- 1:02:15SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_01: The worst thing is okay, so maybe it's Mary and Joseph.
- 1:02:19SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's the Maryland thing, but Maryland is we're very well known for our tomatoes.
- 1:02:24SPEAKER_04: So we have really good tomatoes.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_04: That part sounds good.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_04: It's pie crust and it's tomatoes and it's cheese and it's like mayonnaise and it's delicious.
- 1:02:33SPEAKER_04: Do you eat it hot?
- 1:02:35SPEAKER_04: Yes, and you put it in the oven.
- 1:02:36SPEAKER_04: And here's the best part of it, it's so good.
- 1:02:39SPEAKER_04: No one in my house likes it but me.
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_04: So I get a whole tomato pie.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_02: I'm not a tomato fan.
- 1:02:44SPEAKER_02: Nightshades, I try to avoid.
- 1:02:46SPEAKER_05: I love tomatoes, and I am mildly allergic to all nightshades.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_05: However, I think that so much of it is really is that my I I was raised by the mom.
- 1:03:00SPEAKER_05: We ate carob chip cookies.
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_05: Oh, wow.
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_05: But we didn't have cereal in our house.
- 1:03:07SPEAKER_05: Very crunchy.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_05: Carob is good for you.
- 1:03:10SPEAKER_05: Um, but it's chocolate chip.
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_01: That's all it sounds like to me.
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_04: Oh, can I have the spelling?
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_04: C-H C-A-R-O-B-C.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_04: Yes, I know I recognize that now.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I grew up on carob chip like oatmeal cookies.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_05: And um, we didn't have sugar cereal in our house.
- 1:03:30SPEAKER_05: As a matter of fact, one of the I we would eat like Cheerios, not the greatest, but better for you than most of the alternatives, with honey with honey and um bananas on them.
- 1:03:42SPEAKER_05: Oh, I love honey.
- 1:03:42SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's very like I grew up healthy.
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_05: I grew up not eating meat every day because meat every day might not be so good for you.
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 1:03:54SPEAKER_05: Okay, I I have I have a different philosophy now.
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_05: I could also eat meat all the time.
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_05: A lot of vegetables.
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_05: I grew up in California.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_05: We had all the vegetables.
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_05: I love vegetables.
- 1:04:06SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't love fungus, so mushrooms are not a vegetable, guys.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_02: If you think portabello mushrooms, oh, but mushrooms now where they're chicken of the woods.
- 1:04:16SPEAKER_04: There's so many mushrooms.
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_02: Worth that force said that trash.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_04: I hate mushrooms, they're an entity now.
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_04: It's crazy.
- 1:04:23SPEAKER_01: They always have been.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know what you were talking about.
- 1:04:26SPEAKER_01: I I I not really trying to shift the conversation, but uh, you were bringing something up a while ago about um the synchronicity, and we were talking about plants and stuff like that.
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_01: And I wanted to mention this.
- 1:04:36SPEAKER_01: I was we actually normally have a men's breakfast well, men's uh devotional, excuse me, every Friday at my pastor's house.
- 1:04:46SPEAKER_01: And today was not the exception.
- 1:04:48SPEAKER_01: So we went and uh my pastor was talking about um a pastor that he had from not Coahuila, what part of Mexico is it?
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm gonna forget the name right now.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter.
- 1:04:58SPEAKER_01: Anyway, close to the border.
- 1:05:00SPEAKER_01: And he was there on Wednesday.
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_01: I was not because I was with the youth doing the panel thing, which uh definitely don't regret, it was awesome.
- 1:05:08SPEAKER_01: Um but he said that he was teaching about the redwoods, about the sequoias.
- 1:05:12SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_01: Oh and this was really cool.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_01: There's some stuff I didn't know about this.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_01: The sequoias have bark that is a meter thick.
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's just like all connected, isn't it?
- 1:05:24SPEAKER_05: It is down at the root system.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_05: And well, that's where I'm going.
- 1:05:29SPEAKER_01: That's where I'm going.
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_01: So so it turns out that that um I had I think I did know this, but I'd forgotten that sequoias never stop growing, they just grow until they die.
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_01: They live like over a thousand years, and then their uh their root systems are all inter interlocked and interreliant.
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_01: That is crazy.
- 1:05:52SPEAKER_01: So if if a drought comes on a portion of the trees, the rest of the trees just feed the other trees, and vice versa.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_01: It's it's amazing, and it's crazy to me.
- 1:06:02SPEAKER_01: And so whenever you said that, uh Christina, you're like, Oh, synchronicity kind of freaks me out.
- 1:06:07SPEAKER_01: I was like, nah, dude, synchronicity is where it's at.
- 1:06:10SPEAKER_01: Like, that's the way God designed everything.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_04: No, it totally.
- 1:06:12SPEAKER_04: I just meant it.
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_04: It freaks me out when it like happens more and more.
- 1:06:15SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I'm ascending.
- 1:06:16SPEAKER_04: No, I'm just kidding.
- 1:06:17SPEAKER_04: I'm ascending.
- 1:06:19SPEAKER_05: Let me throw something in here.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_05: I want to piggyback off of the idea of the roots feeding the rest of the forest, as it were.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
- 1:06:31SPEAKER_05: So it it brings a whole new meaning to be being grafted into the tree and hating the roots.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 1:06:42SPEAKER_02: Like powerful.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_02: That's cool, man.
- 1:06:44SPEAKER_02: It really, it really does.
- 1:06:46SPEAKER_02: Good connection.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_02: No kidding.
- 1:06:50SPEAKER_04: Well, I had I had a pastor friend tell me about this.
- 1:06:53SPEAKER_04: Is what I was looking for.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_04: It's a novel.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_04: It's called The Overstory.
- 1:06:56SPEAKER_04: And I actually bought this, and then I also am listening to it.
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_04: It's by Richard Powers, who I actually coincidentally had to read when I was in college.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_04: And it was that's like all I did for a year for one of his books.
- 1:07:08SPEAKER_04: But this is all about trees and like relationships with trees and stories that like kind of overlap.
- 1:07:17SPEAKER_04: It's really it's a beautiful like narrative list, like listen.
- 1:07:22SPEAKER_04: And it was so cool because he he he just kept saying, like, Christina, have you listened to this?
- 1:07:27SPEAKER_04: Like, how you I I told you to listen to it.
- 1:07:29SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, have you gotten the book yet or whatever?
- 1:07:31SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, Yeah, I kept like putting it off because I was like, uh, I'm not really trying to go back to like you know, narrative fiction.
- 1:07:37SPEAKER_01: You're such a closet goth, dude.
- 1:07:39SPEAKER_01: I love it, it's great.
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_04: No, I'm also such a big hippie.
- 1:07:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so that's my that's my job.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_04: My job at church is the resident hippie.
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_04: So he's like, Well, come on, you'll love this because you're such a hippie.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, okay, I want to hear tree stories about trees for sure.
- 1:07:53SPEAKER_04: And then when I started listening to it, I was like, this is exactly what my soul needed.
- 1:07:57SPEAKER_04: Like it really needed to just hear these beautiful stories of like it, and it's a whole bunch of different people telling stories of how trees like they're just their tree was this tree was in their life, but they're it's like a narrative, it's not like they're just telling it, it's really well done.
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_04: Um but it's funny because he always talks about that this whole synchronicity again of trees and the root systems being connected, things underground.
- 1:08:24SPEAKER_04: Now I'm seeing all the stuff on Instagram about moss.
- 1:08:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh dude.
- 1:08:34SPEAKER_00: Don't listen to the trees whisper.
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_04: But the fun thing is, guys, on our fellowshipping journey, I feel like it just it's going this way, right?
- 1:08:41SPEAKER_04: Like, or it's just this whole rewilding.
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_04: We keep having this.
- 1:08:45SPEAKER_01: Well, you keep talking about this synchronicity, dude.
- 1:08:48SPEAKER_01: And I like, I mean, my brain goes right to the light matrix, which is the ether.
- 1:08:53SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's the way it's designed.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_01: It's all designed to be a gigantic well, it's not even designed to be, it is a giant lattice work.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_01: It's all laid out in this pu per perfect, beautiful imagery.
- 1:09:05SPEAKER_01: And you know what really comes to mind when I think about that is uh there they are, is um, you know, those tablecloths that that grannies would knit and they they were open and but they were white and you would leave them shade.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
- 1:09:22SPEAKER_01: And that's that's what I think of when I think of the lattice work.
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_01: That is the way that God designed it.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_01: It's just it's perfect, right?
- 1:09:32SPEAKER_01: And there's all these there's all these beautiful geometrical shapes, there's all these beautiful designs that are woven into the lattice work itself.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_01: It's designed that way on purpose, man.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_01: It's supposed to be beautiful, and and we're the ones, see, and what's what's hilarious is that all the ascended masters are the ones that actually uh geez, what's the what's a good word to say this?
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_01: And in they revel in it, they're the ones that get to revel in it, and we don't, and we're the we're the rightful heirs of all this stuff, and we don't revel in it.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_01: We should, we should absolutely revel in this stuff, and and our churches are terrified to do it.
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_01: They, I mean, the the the high the high ascended masters have made the masses afraid to to give glory to God and just bask in his in his amazing creation.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_01: Like I I I truly feel that that's the way it is, man.
- 1:10:23SPEAKER_01: I I just I keep coming back to that idea and I never get sick of it.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_01: I never do.
- 1:10:27SPEAKER_04: No, because it's I mean, it's true.
- 1:10:29SPEAKER_04: Like we have all of this just beauty and glory in creation that we don't spend that I'm telling you, Jesse, when you mentioned that about the rubber soles on our feet, so true, man.
- 1:10:39SPEAKER_04: It blew my mind.
- 1:10:40SPEAKER_04: I was like, oh my gosh, I hate wearing shoes.
- 1:10:43SPEAKER_04: Not to get us back to the shoe thing, but like it's incredible just to think about that.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_04: That one change one little walking, you know, and now think of how we don't spend time out, you know, in fields or whatever in the sunlight.
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_05: You know, let me piggyback right here, real quick, because because I'm really supposed to say this.
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_05: Um what things does God say about himself?
- 1:11:10SPEAKER_05: He says, I am the light of the world, I am the living water, I am the bread of life.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_05: So there's something to be there is something to be said about that.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_05: Well, Ricky Ricky likes the light matrix, but God is the light, he is the thing that holds all things together because he is the light.
- 1:11:33SPEAKER_05: The word tells us there will be no light source in heaven.
- 1:11:38SPEAKER_05: But yeah, he is the light, but he is the living water, and as we find out more and more things about hydrology, the study of water, it's like Jesus is the living water.
- 1:11:54SPEAKER_03: That's right.
- 1:11:55SPEAKER_05: That that that tree of life, he is the tree of life, and and the word of God is predicated on trees.
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_05: You know, from the very beginning to the cross.
- 1:12:09SPEAKER_05: It's a tree.
- 1:12:10SPEAKER_05: It's a link.
- 1:12:11SPEAKER_05: It's yeah, it's there's so much of it.
- 1:12:13SPEAKER_05: So when when we're in the word and we we look at these things and then take them outside, oh let's not go in the sun.
- 1:12:21SPEAKER_05: Hey, let's put stuff up so that we can reflect the sun back out and not uh have it be so damaging to us.
- 1:12:30SPEAKER_05: Whereas the sun is so good for us, we say, Oh, we need vitamin D, and we take a vitamin D3 pill, which is fine and handy, but it's not the vitamin D that is whatever is well, even even that it's vitamin D is a marker for something that we don't know what it is that makes us healthy, that boosts our immune system.
- 1:12:55SPEAKER_05: There's something that feeds our mitochondria from the sunlight.
- 1:13:01SPEAKER_05: We don't understand it.
- 1:13:02SPEAKER_05: But if God says he's these things, then these are the things we should be racing after.
- 1:13:09SPEAKER_05: I race after sunlight, I want to be in this in the sun.
- 1:13:14SPEAKER_05: I want I want to know all the things about water, I want to have water that's pure for my body.
- 1:13:21SPEAKER_05: I try to even Rick's gonna get a kick out of this.
- 1:13:24SPEAKER_05: I try to speak right over my water and to be aware of when I say something negative and my water is right here.
- 1:13:34SPEAKER_05: That's interesting because what because our water is a conduit for speech.
- 1:13:42SPEAKER_05: I never even thought about that.
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_01: That's why that that's why scrying, I mean, that's why people scried on water, you know.
- 1:13:48SPEAKER_01: Like that's exactly why why they did it.
- 1:13:51SPEAKER_01: Um, just go ahead, man.
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_01: I I'll let you know.
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_02: I love man, there's so many good conversations.
- 1:13:55SPEAKER_02: I know, dude.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_05: We do, we get to have the best.
- 1:13:59SPEAKER_02: Did I ever go into the whole baptism like why we get water baptized?
- 1:14:04SPEAKER_05: Did I ever a little bit, but do it again now because it's powerful and it needs to be said on.
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_02: Okay, so most Christians have no idea.
- 1:14:11SPEAKER_02: Nobody goes to the depth per se of why we get water baptized.
- 1:14:14SPEAKER_02: That was a good point, by the way.
- 1:14:16SPEAKER_02: What's the order?
- 1:14:17SPEAKER_02: You become yeah, yeah.
- 1:14:19SPEAKER_02: You go to good depths.
- 1:14:20SPEAKER_02: Keep going, keep going.
- 1:14:21SPEAKER_02: But uh, no, you know, you get saved first, right?
- 1:14:24SPEAKER_02: The blood covers you, that's the whole process, and then you go under and then you come up.
- 1:14:28SPEAKER_02: And we've had this conversation maybe once before, yeah, but it links back because water holds memory, it's our second largest element on earth next to air.
- 1:14:37SPEAKER_02: So, whenever we go under that water as a Christian, what are we doing?
- 1:14:40SPEAKER_02: We are sending a message to the original water that drowned the Nephilim in that flood that drowned the original fallen nature, right?
- 1:14:50SPEAKER_02: And we go under as a blood, you know, but blood bot Christian and send a declaration to those depths of where they lurk, where they are, of what took them, and we come up new, we come up renewed.
- 1:15:03SPEAKER_02: And if you see the you know relevance of Jesus in here, yeah, you see that when he came up, a dove flew, and God said, This is my son who I am well pleased, right?
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_02: And that really kicked everything off.
- 1:15:15SPEAKER_02: It was it not just a fulfilling of what Jesus was doing, but it was a representation, a declaration, a kick in the teeth to the ones who will never have that chance.
- 1:15:24SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_02: The fallen nature is washed away at that point and declared that you are a blood bot believer.
- 1:15:30SPEAKER_02: You are essentially saying to the fallen, this took your life, but this is what's renewing mine.
- 1:15:36SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:15:36SPEAKER_02: And that's really good.
- 1:15:38SPEAKER_02: There is so much power because water holds all that memory.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_02: We know this now.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_05: Water such a declaration, it's such a such a declaration to the enemy.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_05: Like it really is a slap in the face.
- 1:15:49SPEAKER_05: And I know so many people don't know that.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_05: And uh Danny and I got baptized again um last summer because I wanted because I was, you know, baptized when I was 12, and it was a legit baptism, you know.
- 1:16:07SPEAKER_05: I knew the Lord, I had already been walking with him, and I was finally old enough in um the four square uh denomination to be allowed to to be baptized because I was old enough to make a uh informed decision, basically.
- 1:16:22SPEAKER_05: And um, it was legit, but I wanted to do it again after I knew what it meant that that I was shooting a shot across my enemy's bow saying, here I am, it's know my name.
- 1:16:36SPEAKER_05: It's like Paul's, it's like Jesus', you know who I am.
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_05: You can go ahead and try to mark me and come against me.
- 1:16:43SPEAKER_05: That's okay because greater is he who is in me.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what, too.
- 1:16:48SPEAKER_01: Um man, I'm gonna freaking water.
- 1:16:51SPEAKER_01: I love water, it's so cool.
- 1:16:52SPEAKER_01: Um I was I was thinking about I was thinking about a C.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_01: S.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_01: Lewis book and something about the sun, but um have you guys ever read the uh the sprace trilogy by C.
- 1:17:02SPEAKER_01: S.
- 1:17:02SPEAKER_01: Lewis?
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_05: The Out of the Silent Planet.
- 1:17:05SPEAKER_01: Read those friggin' books, read them anyway.
- 1:17:09SPEAKER_05: So they're really deceptive because they're this thick, and you're like, oh, quick read.
- 1:17:15SPEAKER_01: No, sir.
- 1:17:16SPEAKER_05: They're not the quick read.
- 1:17:18SPEAKER_05: It is that is one of the heaviest tomes you have ever had in 170 pages, I'm just saying.
- 1:17:23SPEAKER_05: And there's all of them, and they're all that way.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_05: They are good.
- 1:17:26SPEAKER_01: They're totally sci-fi.
- 1:17:27SPEAKER_01: They're totally sci-fi.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_01: They're they're those are probably my favorite things from C.S.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_01: Lewis.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_01: I love those books.
- 1:17:31SPEAKER_01: Not mine, though, they're good.
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_01: There's a really Did I ever send you that band, by the way, Blaster the Rocket Man?
- 1:17:37unknown: So good.
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, they a lot of a lot of the songs that he writes, several of the songs he writes are based on stuff from the books of those books directly.
- 1:17:47SPEAKER_01: Um, they're really cool.
- 1:17:48SPEAKER_01: Anyway, uh, but there's this one part where long story short, God has to transport a particular human to different planets in different books.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_01: And when he goes to Venus, he literally strips down because he's gonna be hot.
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_01: Well, why?
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_01: Because he's going towards the sun.
- 1:18:14SPEAKER_01: But when he's on the actual spacecraft, the sun hits him, and he says that he feels absolutely filled to the brim with energy, like he's never felt energy in his existence.
- 1:18:27SPEAKER_01: It's so cool, man.
- 1:18:28SPEAKER_01: Really go read those novels.
- 1:18:30SPEAKER_01: I totally recommend it.
- 1:18:32SPEAKER_04: I've heard of them before.
- 1:18:33SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they're really good.
- 1:18:34SPEAKER_01: Paralandra, Out of the Silent Planet.
- 1:18:36SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because they they read them for book club and Sheologians.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_04: Oh, they're so good.
- 1:18:40SPEAKER_04: They're so good, dude.
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_01: I love those.
- 1:18:42SPEAKER_01: I love those freaking books.
- 1:18:43SPEAKER_04: And then they kept talking about it like out of context, and they were like, Well, you have to join our book club, and then we could talk about it.
- 1:18:48SPEAKER_04: And I was like, I don't know.
- 1:18:50SPEAKER_04: I can't even believe that they don't have that many hours.
- 1:18:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, who reads a book?
- 1:18:55SPEAKER_01: Um read the book.
- 1:18:56SPEAKER_01: I wish I wish they would rate those into movies.
- 1:18:59SPEAKER_01: I really do, but that probably won't happen.
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_05: No, they'd probably make them something really dumb.
- 1:19:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally, totally shisty, yeah, for sure.
- 1:19:09SPEAKER_01: Um, but there's there's a god of each planet and everything, too.
- 1:19:12SPEAKER_01: Like he's really cool, he goes like totally old world on it.
- 1:19:17SPEAKER_01: It's great.
- 1:19:17SPEAKER_01: Sorry, you're gonna say something.
- 1:19:19SPEAKER_04: Who?
- 1:19:20SPEAKER_01: Oh, I thought you were gonna say something.
- 1:19:21SPEAKER_01: My bad.
- 1:19:21SPEAKER_01: Me, no, yeah.
- 1:19:22SPEAKER_01: Oh, no, I just think I think this is Saturn all gods pretty much great conversation.
- 1:19:27SPEAKER_01: I'm joking.
- 1:19:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, kind of, and the sun god and the moon goddess, yeah.
- 1:19:31SPEAKER_04: Diana, there you go.
- 1:19:33SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, they are people, they are creatures.
- 1:19:35SPEAKER_01: Um but I was just gonna say, man, regarding um water, that's that's so cool.
- 1:19:40SPEAKER_01: And I I was gonna mention there's some there's some really fascinating things about water that don't even make sense to us.
- 1:19:47SPEAKER_01: Um, I remember being in um in my speech pathology class that I took for for uh for college, and it that was actually a difficult class for me because it really wasn't part, I mean it was part of my major, but it really was a part of my focus.
- 1:20:02SPEAKER_01: It was very heavily science-y, and and I'm I'm very much more wordy than I am science-y, uh, just you know, full disclosure if you didn't already know.
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm science-y.
- 1:20:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, any sciencey.
- 1:20:14SPEAKER_01: I'm wordy.
- 1:20:15SPEAKER_01: No, I'm kidding.
- 1:20:16SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 1:20:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm aware.
- 1:20:19SPEAKER_01: So I asked my teacher, I'm like, he was talking about water surface tension, and he was explaining how the lungs work.
- 1:20:27SPEAKER_01: This blew my freaking mind.
- 1:20:30SPEAKER_01: The the only reason that the lungs can expand and contract is because there's water surface tension around the rib cage and the lungs themselves.
- 1:20:39SPEAKER_01: So literally, when you breathe in, all that water, the tension on the water is pulling your lungs outward, it's opening your lungs, it's allowing your lungs to open.
- 1:20:47SPEAKER_01: And then when they compress, that surface tension stays there and it pulls them back down.
- 1:20:52SPEAKER_01: It's so freaking cool.
- 1:20:53SPEAKER_01: And so I asked him, I'm like, how does that work?
- 1:20:58SPEAKER_01: He goes, Oh, I have no idea.
- 1:21:00SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was like, I have no idea.
- 1:21:02SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what do you mean you have no idea?
- 1:21:04SPEAKER_01: Because I was I was genuinely interested.
- 1:21:05SPEAKER_01: I was like, you know, most of the stuff I'm not gonna use, and most of the stuff is very highly technical, and I don't really need to use it.
- 1:21:11SPEAKER_01: You know, I just don't have any reason for it.
- 1:21:13SPEAKER_05: It's cool, but this was interesting, and you know nothing else about it.
- 1:21:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was like, Oh, and it usually that actually, which is funny because all of my teachers that I would go to to ask them questions like that, they'd be like, Oh yeah, I don't know that.
- 1:21:26SPEAKER_05: And you're just like the book I'm teaching from just had a brief synopsis on it and nothing else.
- 1:21:33SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
- 1:21:33SPEAKER_05: So get a PhD in hydrology, which is a real thing.
- 1:21:38SPEAKER_05: There is that much to know about water that you can get.
- 1:21:43SPEAKER_05: It's so crazy, but you have to specialize in a certain part of water because there's so much knowledge.
- 1:21:50SPEAKER_05: There's and we've only literally scratched the surface there.
- 1:21:55SPEAKER_01: No problem, surface tension.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_04: Next time are we talking about water and freak are we talking about frequencies?
- 1:22:03SPEAKER_04: We talked about Will you guys pick.
- 1:22:04SPEAKER_01: I mean, we can pick a new topic and do that on the next one.
- 1:22:07SPEAKER_04: We briefly talked, we put we touched on frequencies, and then we also Jesse was talking about parasites, but I'm terrified to have that conversation.
- 1:22:14SPEAKER_04: Oh, the parasites are too orange.
- 1:22:17SPEAKER_02: I'll get rid of them for you.
- 1:22:19SPEAKER_02: Listen, we have and Kelly has protocols, everything.
- 1:22:23SPEAKER_02: Oh, interesting.
- 1:22:24SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we should have Kelly on the show.
- 1:22:25SPEAKER_05: We don't have to share those things because I'm about to shoot that on the point.
- 1:22:30SPEAKER_02: Wormwood, milk thistle.
- 1:22:31SPEAKER_02: I mean, we can go through all that stuff, and uh there's binders.
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_02: But it's not hard.
- 1:22:38SPEAKER_02: It's not hard.
- 1:22:39SPEAKER_02: We use very pure brands.
- 1:22:40SPEAKER_02: Uh she has very specifics.
- 1:22:42SPEAKER_02: We do a lot of oils and stuff.
- 1:22:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she knows so much about all this stuff.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_02: Frankincense oil, you name it.
- 1:22:49SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:22:49SPEAKER_05: I'm getting a little bit more than a little bit.
- 1:22:50SPEAKER_05: Just to get a bit of what are they called?
- 1:22:54SPEAKER_05: B BPCs, BPS.
- 1:22:58SPEAKER_05: BPS.
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's it.
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna quit wearing any kind of fragrance.
- 1:23:03SPEAKER_02: No fragrant.
- 1:23:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no fragrance, no fragrance, fragrance things in your hair.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_02: Fragrance.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_02: Nothing, no candles.
- 1:23:11SPEAKER_02: We don't have any of it.
- 1:23:12SPEAKER_02: She purified all written.
- 1:23:14SPEAKER_02: That stuff's all poisoned.
- 1:23:15SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 1:23:16SPEAKER_05: So but it smells like full.
- 1:23:18SPEAKER_02: It smells like fall, but it's also poisoning your lungs.
- 1:23:22SPEAKER_02: Like this last two years, I have had major lung issues.
- 1:23:25SPEAKER_02: And it's weird you bring up water because I've been asking God, what is the answer here?
- 1:23:29SPEAKER_02: Because I I'm I'm one of those people, I'm like a farmer.
- 1:23:32SPEAKER_02: If you see me go to the doctor, it's very serious.
- 1:23:35SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:23:35SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 1:23:36SPEAKER_02: Um, I avoid them like the plague doctor.
- 1:23:38SPEAKER_02: As you should.
- 1:23:40SPEAKER_02: I really do.
- 1:23:41SPEAKER_02: I really try to rely on God for my healing, and I try to rely on things He provides in nature.
- 1:23:47SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, I used to know an old Indian woman, and she would always say healing is on the edge of the woods.
- 1:23:54SPEAKER_02: And uh it always goes back to the woods.
- 1:23:56SPEAKER_02: And I was like, that's powerful.
- 1:23:57SPEAKER_05: Well, the tannins they're just starting to find out the tannins in the trees, you know, that beautiful smell when you walk into any kind of forest and you're like I feel better after the first breath.
- 1:24:13SPEAKER_05: It's because literally they put off stuff in the air that is healing for us that nourishes our bodies.
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_02: People don't know this.
- 1:24:23SPEAKER_02: So the fresh cut grass smell, you probably don't know this in Texas.
- 1:24:26SPEAKER_02: But the fresh cut grass is the grass warning the other grass to store their nutrients and the roots.
- 1:24:33SPEAKER_02: That's what that smell is.
- 1:24:35SPEAKER_02: Everything like if you go near a beehive and you disturb them and you smell bananas, they're about to attack.
- 1:24:41SPEAKER_02: These beautiful fragrances that we have usually are warning and signal signs for all of us.
- 1:24:49SPEAKER_01: It makes sense because I mean anything that you know color-wise sticks out and is vibrant is usually poisonous or dangerous or yeah, that's why girls that dye their hair bright yellow and stuff to stay away from dye.
- 1:25:03SPEAKER_05: Unless it's a cool red, then you're okay.
- 1:25:05SPEAKER_05: The cool red's all right.
- 1:25:07SPEAKER_02: But that blue, that's a poisonous creature, man.
- 1:25:10SPEAKER_01: It's actually poisonous for them, unfortunately, as well.
- 1:25:12SPEAKER_05: Actually, so is my red.
- 1:25:14SPEAKER_05: I also dye my hair.
- 1:25:15SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna quit dyeing my hair.
- 1:25:17SPEAKER_05: So there are a couple of poisons I'm gonna pick and I'm gonna share with them and point to poison, right?
- 1:25:21SPEAKER_05: Coloring my hair is one of them.
- 1:25:24SPEAKER_01: I was just gonna say it's in the word die.
- 1:25:27SPEAKER_01: So you might want to be careful with that one.
- 1:25:30SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 1:25:31SPEAKER_04: Everybody listening, pick your poison.
- 1:25:33SPEAKER_04: Um, yes, please.
- 1:25:34SPEAKER_04: Next time, let's just do I want to have I want to have um your wife on the show when I want to talk.
- 1:25:39SPEAKER_04: I'm just taking her for my show, not for show.
- 1:25:42SPEAKER_05: Well, so long as it's for the fringe and we all get to be with Kelly, I'm cool with that.
- 1:25:47SPEAKER_05: Yeah, let's do that.
- 1:25:48SPEAKER_02: And I'm not trying to insert, don't think that, but she has so much knowledge.
- 1:25:52SPEAKER_02: She makes me look uh she's intelligent.
- 1:25:54SPEAKER_02: I think the wives are always more intelligent than the men.
- 1:25:56SPEAKER_02: You're beautiful.
- 1:26:01SPEAKER_02: What that she ain't here, I promise.
- 1:26:03SPEAKER_04: No, we mean when she next time, like we should just have her on next time and we can talk about all this stuff.
- 1:26:08SPEAKER_04: Tune right in.
- 1:26:08SPEAKER_02: But uh, she has she's a holistic practitioner, so yes, she did all that stuff, and that's cool, man.
- 1:26:14SPEAKER_05: And I think for for the body of Christ, especially modern modern uh American Christians, we have let um so much of this go because it has the taint of new age.
- 1:26:28SPEAKER_05: And the thing is though, exactly that when you go to the word of God, it's healing it's there.
- 1:26:35SPEAKER_05: No, it absolutely is.
- 1:26:37SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's it's it's why we can't we can't take things that are the enemies and righteous them.
- 1:26:48SPEAKER_05: Okay, we cannot do that.
- 1:26:49SPEAKER_05: And I know that's out of word, but it it is tonight.
- 1:26:53SPEAKER_05: But everything that the enemy has stolen and twisted belongs to us.
- 1:26:58SPEAKER_03: Amen.
- 1:26:59SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
- 1:27:00SPEAKER_05: It it does, and so I'm just I I'm not gonna let them have things anymore because because they licked it and somehow they thought that that transferred ownership the wrong.
- 1:27:14SPEAKER_02: It it's wild to me because we hear of all these herbs and things throughout the Bible.
- 1:27:19SPEAKER_02: I mean, what did the magi, who arguably are astrologers, right?
- 1:27:25SPEAKER_02: Right uh, and the magicians of a certain king and a certain dynasty, right?
- 1:27:30SPEAKER_02: What did they bring Jesus?
- 1:27:32unknown: Mr.
- 1:27:33SPEAKER_05: Frankincense, frankincense, gold, and myrrh.
- 1:27:36SPEAKER_02: Okay, there are two of those that are you know, arguably her based, and you know, frankincense is known as a cure all in Egypt.
- 1:27:44SPEAKER_02: They used it for everything, and then myrrh has its own supplements, but when you use them together, they're highly antifungal.
- 1:27:52SPEAKER_02: There's crazy things, but when you have gold, and I really do believe this that there is a you know frequency base for gold.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_02: Right, there is certainly whenever you put stuff on that and you distill it over it, they do it with tequila, they do it with other things.
- 1:28:06SPEAKER_02: You should know about tequila, right?
- 1:28:07SPEAKER_02: It's the most healing alcohol on the planet.
- 1:28:10SPEAKER_02: That gut healing, and uh they always say get the high shelf because it's purified the guava or whatever is purified.
- 1:28:16SPEAKER_01: I I can attest to this that this is a normal, this is a very normal thing.
- 1:28:19SPEAKER_01: Is that if you have a cold in Mexico, you take a shot, you just take a straight shot with lime down that bad boy.
- 1:28:25SPEAKER_01: Lime is one of the best frickin' things you can put in your body.
- 1:28:30SPEAKER_01: Lime is crazy good for you.
- 1:28:32SPEAKER_05: My friends whose children are missionaries, they were missionaries over in Lebanon, right?
- 1:28:37SPEAKER_05: They got out right before things got really bad.
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_05: Praise God.
- 1:28:41SPEAKER_05: But um they they were over in Egypt and they got a fruit drink, and it made one of them super, super sick.
- 1:28:51SPEAKER_05: So then when they were in Lebanon, their their daughter was like, Okay, so this this is what you do.
- 1:28:58SPEAKER_05: You take one part tequila, yeah, three three parts water, and you just you chug it down.
- 1:29:06SPEAKER_05: I don't know there might have been something else in it.
- 1:29:07SPEAKER_05: She's like, you chug it down and it prepares your gut for the water in the place that you're at.
- 1:29:13SPEAKER_05: And oh wow, and he was like, it absolutely worked.
- 1:29:19SPEAKER_05: And at first I was kind of like, I was expecting him to say, but I didn't try it because we're A G.
- 1:29:24SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:29:25SPEAKER_05: But he was like, and I took it and it worked, and then we could ate whatever we wanted and drink whatever we wanted there and had no gut issue.
- 1:29:34SPEAKER_05: And I was like, but the thing is, he told me that this Wednesday night.
- 1:29:39SPEAKER_05: So then to talk about tequila again right now.
- 1:29:43SPEAKER_02: Isn't that interesting?
- 1:29:44SPEAKER_05: It's a little bit synchronistic.
- 1:29:47SPEAKER_05: It is it's crazy.
- 1:29:50SPEAKER_03: So listen to this, right?
- 1:29:52SPEAKER_04: So yesterday I was I was listening to that podcast.
- 1:29:55SPEAKER_04: Um, so the this so it was sixth sensory podcast.
- 1:30:00SPEAKER_04: He was talking about fasting, and he said coconut water while you fast, coconut water and she she jit she legit, huh?
- 1:30:11SPEAKER_02: She legit?
- 1:30:12SPEAKER_04: Yes, probably not.
- 1:30:13SPEAKER_04: He was that's her talking about that like the whole time.
- 1:30:17SPEAKER_02: Too legit, she legit.
- 1:30:19SPEAKER_04: Have you heard of that?
- 1:30:20SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so a lot of people are, you know, that's a bonics, but I'm not gonna say it's like it's it's like really trending right now in like herbology.
- 1:30:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I mean, a lot of people are arguing stuff like she legit, which comes out of resins of the rocks, they're arguing on the conspiracy fringe because it's so high in this and it's so potent, it's so this that it's from the fallen, like purified bones.
- 1:30:48SPEAKER_05: Like Himalayan salt, yeah.
- 1:30:50SPEAKER_02: Yes, she legit or 'cause it's a black goo.
- 1:30:54SPEAKER_02: It's like a yeah, so you know that's just one of those things.
- 1:30:57SPEAKER_02: As soon as I heard that, I was like, you know what?
- 1:30:59SPEAKER_02: It's better to be safe than sorry.
- 1:31:01SPEAKER_02: I'm not partaking.
- 1:31:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there are so many other items you could take that are like not goo resin out of rocks that arguably could be demphylum.
- 1:31:11unknown: Right?
- 1:31:12SPEAKER_05: Well, take some of take some of your silver jewelry and just throw it in the water.
- 1:31:18SPEAKER_02: What's that?
- 1:31:19SPEAKER_05: I said take some of your silver jewelry and throw it in the water.
- 1:31:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:31:24SPEAKER_05: You know, I mean, or some of your gold.
- 1:31:26SPEAKER_05: If you have a a broken gold chain and it and it's higher gold than dry.
- 1:31:34SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 1:31:35SPEAKER_05: Um, or take your 9.25 silver.
- 1:31:38SPEAKER_05: I I wear silver, I love silver.
- 1:31:40SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:31:41SPEAKER_05: Um, and throw it in your water.
- 1:31:44SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's got antimicrobial properties.
- 1:31:47SPEAKER_05: Mix that with your other things rather than this she legit whatever.
- 1:31:52SPEAKER_02: She legit like a black root goo.
- 1:31:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well it's from it's from it's supposed to be from, I guess, um, you get it in like Russia, like the mountains, the mountains, um, Himalaya, like that area.
- 1:32:03SPEAKER_04: And so I'm interested.
- 1:32:04SPEAKER_04: What are you doing?
- 1:32:08SPEAKER_05: Um I think Jesse is thinking that all those mountains are the petrified bodies of now.
- 1:32:16SPEAKER_05: Well, that's what's the control.
- 1:32:17SPEAKER_05: I mean, some of them do look like bodies in repose.
- 1:32:22SPEAKER_01: So they do, they really do.
- 1:32:24SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's possible.
- 1:32:25SPEAKER_05: Um I was gonna say I don't discount much these days.
- 1:32:29SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
- 1:32:31SPEAKER_01: I mean, that there's a reason that God says that he has to make our new heavens and an earth new earth.
- 1:32:35SPEAKER_01: It's not it's not for no reason.
- 1:32:36SPEAKER_01: Like, there's some legit reasons.
- 1:32:38SPEAKER_04: There's contamination in any anything, I guess.
- 1:32:40SPEAKER_01: If you work on that, everywhere.
- 1:32:41SPEAKER_02: I wasn't trying to shut it down, Christine.
- 1:32:43SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
- 1:32:44SPEAKER_04: But it but it reminded me of like this this actually does kind of remind me of like that whole herbology new age journey that I was on, where you still have to be careful, I guess, in in either aspect, right?
- 1:32:56SPEAKER_04: Like, because not everything is good for you, even though it says that it's good for you.
- 1:33:01SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and under and understanding why we partake in things.
- 1:33:06SPEAKER_04: I was gonna do ayahuasca next week, but I guess not now.
- 1:33:11SPEAKER_01: Aya will not wasca.
- 1:33:14SPEAKER_05: We're gonna walk next to Huasca.
- 1:33:17SPEAKER_01: I was gonna I was just gonna mention to you guys, it's really interesting.
- 1:33:19SPEAKER_01: You guys were talking about silver.
- 1:33:21SPEAKER_01: I saw a crazy, I was like, oh, well, that's interesting.
- 1:33:25SPEAKER_01: This DJ was was saying that he took a that he that DJs will wear silver chains and they'll put the silver chain on their mix when they're actually doing their mix because it changes the frequency level from 440 to 432.
- 1:33:40SPEAKER_01: And it's supposed to, according to them, it's to repel demons.
- 1:33:44SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, well, dude, I mean, you can do all that stuff, and I'm sure it might help a tiny bit, but you ain't repeling nothing unless you're already contracted with them.
- 1:33:54SPEAKER_05: Good luck trying to repel them that way.
- 1:33:56SPEAKER_05: That's it.
- 1:33:56SPEAKER_05: That's interesting, though.
- 1:33:58SPEAKER_01: That's like, I mean, putting that silver on on if you're if you're not a if you don't follow Jesus, you put silver on a on a thumb drive like that to do your mix.
- 1:34:07SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's like robbing from uh from Peter to pay Paul.
- 1:34:10SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're gonna get one demon to cover for another one, like get out of here.
- 1:34:13SPEAKER_01: You stupid demon.
- 1:34:15SPEAKER_01: I got you back, don't worry, you know?
- 1:34:17SPEAKER_04: Like, it reminds me of like iron.
- 1:34:20SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, I see it too.
- 1:34:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah, me too.
- 1:34:23SPEAKER_01: I was like, whoa, that's really interesting.
- 1:34:25SPEAKER_01: At least you'll be safe from vampires.
- 1:34:27SPEAKER_04: Maybe, yeah.
- 1:34:28SPEAKER_04: Werewolves.
- 1:34:29SPEAKER_04: I was it it kind of reminds me of when when my son was teething, so I he I would always let it have him wear like those teething amber necklaces, the teething beads.
- 1:34:40SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
- 1:34:41SPEAKER_04: And it worked like amber is healing and it works.
- 1:34:44SPEAKER_04: But one of the things that you have the color of your energy?
- 1:34:47SPEAKER_04: Yes, oh, that's the only 311 song that I tolerate.
- 1:34:55SPEAKER_04: So what I would do is I would take the necklaces and I would put them outside during a full moon and let the full moon charge them.
- 1:35:02SPEAKER_02: Can you stop that witchiness?
- 1:35:03unknown: I don't know what that means.
- 1:35:05unknown: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:35:07SPEAKER_04: That reminded me.
- 1:35:09SPEAKER_02: Can you just stop witching for like 15 freaking minutes?
- 1:35:13SPEAKER_05: You are not allowed to go outside in full moons anymore.
- 1:35:18SPEAKER_04: I'm having a fire after this.
- 1:35:20SPEAKER_04: I'll have you know.
- 1:35:21SPEAKER_05: This is why we can't have nice things.
- 1:35:24SPEAKER_05: Well, it's it's not a full moon.
- 1:35:25SPEAKER_04: Anyway, what I'm saying is like this, but but what I'm saying is like that.
- 1:35:30SPEAKER_04: So I mean, I used to do that.
- 1:35:31SPEAKER_04: I don't know if that did anything or whatever.
- 1:35:33SPEAKER_04: But when Shelly was talking about putting silver in her water, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:35:37SPEAKER_03: You know, or whatever.
- 1:35:39SPEAKER_04: No, but it's like I think it gets back to understanding why we do things.
- 1:35:43SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:35:43SPEAKER_04: And at the end of the day, I think this is maybe somewhere where we can try to land this plane because we'll all sit here and talk about that now.
- 1:35:51SPEAKER_02: We will.
- 1:35:51SPEAKER_02: This is so good though.
- 1:35:52SPEAKER_02: This is a good talk.
- 1:35:53SPEAKER_04: I know, it really is.
- 1:35:54SPEAKER_04: But I think that at the end of the day, the same thing with the silver, the same thing with the she legit or whatever it's called.
- 1:36:00SPEAKER_04: Take it to the Lord.
- 1:36:01SPEAKER_04: Absolutely for you, then it's for you.
- 1:36:04SPEAKER_04: Like if it's not for you, then it's not for you.
- 1:36:07SPEAKER_02: If you want to be miserable, you just keep doing what you're doing.
- 1:36:09SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 1:36:11SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say, it's not witchy, it's witchy watchy.
- 1:36:17SPEAKER_02: Wait, can I go ahead, Jesse?
- 1:36:19SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, go.
- 1:36:20SPEAKER_02: No, no, you finish your thought.
- 1:36:21SPEAKER_02: I don't want to say that.
- 1:36:21SPEAKER_04: Well, no, I was just gonna say, so yesterday when I was listening to that that whole conversation that Tim was having, I wrote down this question and I was like, I wonder if this I know he's so good.
- 1:36:30SPEAKER_04: I was like, I wonder if this is where God's gonna take this conversation.
- 1:36:33SPEAKER_04: So I wrote down, is there an intentional strategic attack on God's healing herbal creations, a demonization, in order that his people would be sick and turn to pharmacia?
- 1:36:46SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:36:46SPEAKER_05: What's a hundred is the story of our modern medicine in their life.
- 1:36:56SPEAKER_02: Here he is.
- 1:36:58SPEAKER_02: Make them sick and then give them a cure that's chemical-based that keeps them sick, but keeps them coming back.
- 1:37:03SPEAKER_02: Maybe balance is listening a little bit.
- 1:37:06SPEAKER_02: I can go totally.
- 1:37:11SPEAKER_02: Wait until frequency healing really kicks in, and we really step in to the understanding that bells were there that heal and people.
- 1:37:19SPEAKER_02: Listen, there are man, we could talk all about this all day long.
- 1:37:25SPEAKER_02: But I'm gonna hit and I don't know if I've ever Indians used the the whole wishing, like throwing a coin in and making a wish.
- 1:37:32SPEAKER_02: Did we ever talk about this guy?
- 1:37:34SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think so.
- 1:37:35SPEAKER_02: So the root of this is Indians knew that the metals would purify the water, which would release a blessing.
- 1:37:42SPEAKER_02: And that's where you throw a quarter, you throw a nickel, you throw a dime.
- 1:37:47SPEAKER_05: Because it used to be real silver or copper, real silver, and it would purify the water.
- 1:37:53SPEAKER_02: We knew this.
- 1:37:53SPEAKER_02: That's why we have copper.
- 1:37:54SPEAKER_02: PEX is poison.
- 1:37:56SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 1:37:56SPEAKER_02: I'm a plumber.
- 1:37:57SPEAKER_02: We do this.
- 1:37:58SPEAKER_02: Why do you put PEX in it?
- 1:37:59SPEAKER_05: They have moved everything over to um PVC.
- 1:38:03SPEAKER_05: Yep, the pet the PEC's pipes.
- 1:38:04SPEAKER_05: Because they're trying to kill us.
- 1:38:06SPEAKER_05: The more you drink, no, they're trying to slowly poison us.
- 1:38:10SPEAKER_05: There's a difference.
- 1:38:11SPEAKER_05: They don't want us that they want us dying for a very long time.
- 1:38:14SPEAKER_01: It's well, I mean I just I just heard some crazy statistic that we have, I think it's either 75 or 80 percent, or it might even be higher, of Americans are unfit to serve in the military.
- 1:38:28SPEAKER_01: But it's crazy.
- 1:38:30SPEAKER_01: I mean, me either, right?
- 1:38:31SPEAKER_01: Like if you're slowly poisoning your population, yeah, absolutely.
- 1:38:34SPEAKER_01: You're you're slowly poisoning your population, of course they're gonna be incapable.
- 1:38:38SPEAKER_01: And I I really guys, I really think I don't want to end on too much of a conspiracy note, but I know I don't either I think I have last thought because I get the last thought.
- 1:38:47SPEAKER_01: You you that's fine, you can do the last thought.
- 1:38:49SPEAKER_01: Um I just I just was you know, you were you were talking about AI, Shell.
- 1:38:54SPEAKER_01: You you sent that that video where that guy was where you know there's this trend right now where you you set four constraints on on chat GPT, and basically they're yes, no, you can only say one word, and if you can't say what you want to say, you have to say Apple.
- 1:39:09SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 1:39:09SPEAKER_01: And so it it basically like just uh you should really watch it.
- 1:39:12SPEAKER_01: It was in our feed, it's like 15 minutes, it's real short.
- 1:39:15SPEAKER_01: I watched it, guys.
- 1:39:17SPEAKER_01: It it was wild.
- 1:39:18SPEAKER_01: Shelly, I've told Shelly my my thought process about how this whole thing it was exactly exactly what I have said, in order, exactly.
- 1:39:29SPEAKER_01: It was it was chronological, like I have it, like I believed it and it's laid out, which was really wild.
- 1:39:34SPEAKER_01: I was like, dude, I've been saying this for like two years.
- 1:39:38SPEAKER_05: That's because the Holy Spirit lets us in on it.
- 1:39:40SPEAKER_05: That's why that's why we're talking about fasting.
- 1:39:44SPEAKER_05: That's why sensory, darn it, I can never get that out of my mouth.
- 1:39:54SPEAKER_05: We're doing it all over the place because the Holy Spirit, it's like, yes, do you ever have like the Holy Spirit drop something in your spirit, and then you listen to so-and-so in in um Arizona, and they're talking about it.
- 1:40:09SPEAKER_05: You go to some other place, and that's exactly what the pastor is talking about that weekend.
- 1:40:15SPEAKER_05: Exactly, and you're in your devotional reading, and that's what God is telling you.
- 1:40:19SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 1:40:20SPEAKER_05: The Holy Spirit moves that way, and so like when I see that happen a few times, I'm like, oh, you're making a point to your entire body right now, aren't you?
- 1:40:29SPEAKER_05: Amen.
- 1:40:30SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's so good, Shell.
- 1:40:32SPEAKER_05: That's so good.
- 1:40:33SPEAKER_05: That's really good, y'all.
- 1:40:34SPEAKER_01: Well said, beautiful.
- 1:40:35SPEAKER_01: Well said.
- 1:40:36SPEAKER_05: Did you have anything else, Jesse?
- 1:40:37SPEAKER_05: You see that, right?
- 1:40:38SPEAKER_05: I'm not the only person who's a million things.
- 1:40:41SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
- 1:40:42SPEAKER_04: No, you totally, yes.
- 1:40:44SPEAKER_04: You totally said 100%, Shell.
- 1:40:46SPEAKER_02: It's this stuff is so wild.
- 1:40:48SPEAKER_02: So, like, there's reasons we wear gold and silver over other things, but iron was always believed to keep demonic away.
- 1:40:55SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, there was always that was it's like salt, circles of salt and iron you would hide around your house because it was known to repel demonic.
- 1:41:06SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, that's interesting.
- 1:41:07SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's very interesting.
- 1:41:09SPEAKER_02: It's more so I don't know if that's Christian-based, but they would say, you know, they were afraid of the iron because that's what was used.
- 1:41:16SPEAKER_02: It's the nails and the crop.
- 1:41:18SPEAKER_02: It's it's really interesting.
- 1:41:19SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's wild.
- 1:41:20SPEAKER_01: Okay, that makes sense.
- 1:41:21SPEAKER_01: It's really, really interesting you say that, man.
- 1:41:23SPEAKER_01: I know this sounds this is gonna be like, oh, Ricky, that's so cheesy.
- 1:41:26SPEAKER_01: But um Be cheesy in Minecraft, the the creatures that guard the village are iron golems, and they ward off spirits for the villagers so that they don't get killed or maimed or whatever.
- 1:41:40SPEAKER_01: Isn't that crazy?
- 1:41:41SPEAKER_05: The enemies have to put it in in in their stories because that's part of what it's part of reality.
- 1:41:49SPEAKER_05: Well, it's part of what they're bound to as well.
- 1:41:51SPEAKER_05: Yes.
- 1:41:53SPEAKER_05: We can we can be tricked into giving consent very easily.
- 1:41:58SPEAKER_05: And that's why we are told to be alert because our enemy, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion.
- 1:42:06SPEAKER_05: He's not a lion, but he's like one, right?
- 1:42:10SPEAKER_05: But he's gotta imitate the lion of Judah.
- 1:42:13SPEAKER_05: He knows all of the loopholes and they use them.
- 1:42:17SPEAKER_05: But that's why we see these things um again and again in the stuff that comes out of Hollywood, the stuff that comes out of Silicon Valley, the stuff that is the stuff that is our distracting entertainment.
- 1:42:30SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 1:42:31SPEAKER_05: That's that's why those things are there.
- 1:42:34SPEAKER_05: Oh man.
- 1:42:35SPEAKER_02: Listen, this was uh we went from time and I don't even know what happened here.
- 1:42:40SPEAKER_02: How do we this was like, hey, welcome to Christianity about tithing, right to the depth.
- 1:42:46SPEAKER_01: This is like this is this is like uh this is like a uh a reality show.
- 1:42:50SPEAKER_01: We put four fringe individuals into a room and saw what they would talk about.
- 1:42:55SPEAKER_05: Right after we asked the Holy Spirit to guide it all.
- 1:42:58SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
- 1:42:59SPEAKER_01: Well, we wanted to talk about tithing first, and then we got to the depth of the Neville and Green.
- 1:43:04SPEAKER_05: I want to talk about tithing at all, to be really honest.
- 1:43:07SPEAKER_04: I know, I wasn't going there either.
- 1:43:08SPEAKER_01: I don't even know how that happened.
- 1:43:10SPEAKER_04: Shelly, nobody wants to listen to us talk about tithing at all.
- 1:43:12SPEAKER_04: No kidding, no, nobody wants to be.
- 1:43:15SPEAKER_05: I know, but do we have any more thoughts?
- 1:43:18SPEAKER_05: Because I have the summation of this all.
- 1:43:20SPEAKER_05: I no, I think go ahead, wrap it up, Shelly.
- 1:43:23SPEAKER_05: So here's the deal all of this said and done.
- 1:43:27SPEAKER_05: Everybody who is here knows we we are fasting.
- 1:43:32SPEAKER_05: We fast on Thursdays together.
- 1:43:33SPEAKER_05: We fast various ways.
- 1:43:36SPEAKER_05: Um, some of us are fasting all food and doing juices, or some of us faster than others.
- 1:43:42SPEAKER_05: Some some, you know, whatever degree it is, it it varies.
- 1:43:48SPEAKER_05: But we need people to come along and fast together with their churches because God wants to do a healing and a restoration within the body of Christ.
- 1:44:05SPEAKER_05: And so you're gonna see the you're gonna have a need to fast, you're going to have people talking to you about fasting, bring fasting to your church.
- 1:44:17SPEAKER_05: We don't have to have uh strong um parameters of what it is.
- 1:44:22SPEAKER_05: Whatever you are fast, whatever you were called to fast, fast.
- 1:44:26SPEAKER_01: Fast on it.
- 1:44:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:44:27SPEAKER_05: You if you're called for a different day than Thursday, okay, fine.
- 1:44:31SPEAKER_05: If you want to fast with us on Thursdays, then we really, really invite you to do it.
- 1:44:39SPEAKER_05: Yeah, reach out to us, man.
- 1:44:41SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the more flesh, the more the Holy Spirit gains power because we're not feeding that dog in the fight.
- 1:44:50SPEAKER_05: We're feeding our spirit dog.
- 1:44:52SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 1:44:53SPEAKER_05: And we we want spirit dog, her spirit dog, not our flesh dog.
- 1:45:02SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 1:45:04SPEAKER_02: I mean it's a good thing.
- 1:45:06SPEAKER_02: Shelly, you're losing us.
- 1:45:07SPEAKER_04: I'm so sorry.
- 1:45:07SPEAKER_04: This was such a good point.
- 1:45:10SPEAKER_04: You know, you don't have to do that.
- 1:45:14SPEAKER_05: Everybody has ADHD now.
- 1:45:15SPEAKER_05: But guys, come along, come alongside us, reach out to us, reach out to the handyman creature on TikTok, reach out to Sask and Sourdough on uh wherever.
- 1:45:28SPEAKER_05: Sasquatch and sourdough, Instagram basically.
- 1:45:31SPEAKER_05: Yeah, insta, yeah she got the IG.
- 1:45:34SPEAKER_05: The tube.
- 1:45:35SPEAKER_05: Reach out to us on on the tube, on the face, on the TikTok, on IG, Twitter, shoot, you can reach out to us anywhere.
- 1:45:45SPEAKER_05: Reach out to us individually or reach out to our podcast pages and come alongside us.
- 1:45:52SPEAKER_05: We just we want to be alongside you.
- 1:45:56SPEAKER_05: We want to see what God's gonna do, not just in the Atlantic Northwest where Jess and Chris are uh or just in Texas where Ricky and I are, but we want it all over America, gosh.
- 1:46:11SPEAKER_05: Honestly, we want it all over the planet.
- 1:46:14SPEAKER_05: We when there is so much power.
- 1:46:16SPEAKER_05: If one puts a thousand to flight and two ten thousand, then what is three ten thousand times ten times?
- 1:46:22SPEAKER_05: A hundred thousand, then we're in the millions with the four of us right here.
- 1:46:26SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
- 1:46:28SPEAKER_05: It's exponential, bless you.
- 1:46:30SPEAKER_05: Every every single person who joins in man, God is looking to move in our lives, and by uh subjecting our flesh to the will of the father, to the will of the holy spirit, we will see dynamite things happen.
- 1:46:50SPEAKER_05: And so we just we encourage you at the end of all this, all of the crazy to say, come on, let's not eat together for one day a week.
- 1:46:59SPEAKER_05: For one day a week, you can do it.
- 1:47:01SPEAKER_04: Let's not involve it.
- 1:47:02SPEAKER_04: Fast, not feast.
- 1:47:03SPEAKER_04: I know, exactly.
- 1:47:05SPEAKER_04: Oh, this was great, guys.
- 1:47:06SPEAKER_04: What a fun conversation!
- 1:47:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
- 1:47:08SPEAKER_01: It went everywhere.
- 1:47:09SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
- 1:47:10SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna repost this so after it's live.
- 1:47:12SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna hopefully like see if people watch it later on tonight, but I'm gonna actually re-upload it and repost it.
- 1:47:19SPEAKER_04: Cool.
- 1:47:20SPEAKER_04: I love it.
- 1:47:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah, all right, cool.
- 1:47:23SPEAKER_04: Yay, thanks, guys.
- 1:47:25SPEAKER_04: God bless you.
- 1:47:26SPEAKER_04: Yay, God bless you guys.
- 1:47:28SPEAKER_04: Fellowship of the fringe.
- 1:47:29SPEAKER_02: Korean heart to the fringe.
- 1:47:32SPEAKER_02: Yes, the fringe.
- 1:47:34SPEAKER_04: All right.