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The Spooktacular So Nice They Recorded it Twice · Large Nerdron Collider

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to Large Nerdron Collider, the podcast that's
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Speaker 1: all about the geeky things happening in the world around
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Speaker 1: us and how excited we are about them. I'm Ariel
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Speaker 1: Castin and with me as always is my super awesome
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Speaker 1: friend and co host Jonathan Strickland.
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Speaker 2: Last week was so spooky it scared the episode right
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Speaker 2: off my computer.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, how will people know about all of our
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Speaker 1: favorite spookdum stuff.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna do it again this week, but no,
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Speaker 2: I owe I owe everyone out there. In apology, I
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Speaker 2: already apologize to Ariel, but I was trying to put
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Speaker 2: together our episode from last week because we actually did
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Speaker 2: record one, it just did not publish, and in the
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Speaker 2: process of editing and everything, a series of unfortunate events
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Speaker 2: befell your co host. Jonathan Strickland broke my toe, which
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Speaker 2: is still broken. It's nice and fun, and I got
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Speaker 2: a kidney stone and I still have some long COVID
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Speaker 2: symptoms that are bothering me on occasion. And these are
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Speaker 2: not excuses but merely explanations of I was dealing with
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Speaker 2: stuff and forgot, and so that's really all on me.
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Speaker 2: And as punishment, I'm going to redo last week's episode again.
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Speaker 1: It will be a delight. Besides, now we can talk
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Speaker 1: about what happened this spooky season for us ah Man,
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Speaker 1: which I should have told you one of the things,
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Speaker 1: because we can't talk about it on air.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So one thing that's kind of funny is that
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Speaker 2: before we even started recording, Ariel and I were just
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Speaker 2: chatting and we got into a really great, deep discussion
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Speaker 2: about some things that we're looking forward to in the
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Speaker 2: Geeks space, specifically in television and film, and how we
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Speaker 2: were interested in them or excited by them, or in
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Speaker 2: some cases, you know, feeling like, oh, that's not what
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Speaker 2: I was expecting. But obviously the strike is still ongoing.
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Speaker 2: Though as we record this today, SAG, AFTRA and the
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Speaker 2: AMPTP are supposed to come back together in negotiations. SAG
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Speaker 2: is expecting a response to a counter proposal that they
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Speaker 2: presented the producers. So maybe things are starting to head
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Speaker 2: toward a resolution where the strike will be over. That
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Speaker 2: would be fantastic if that happens, but for the time being,
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Speaker 2: we're still operating under those pesky strike rules.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. When we first got back to the bargaining table,
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Speaker 1: the mptp's like you're being unreasonable. We're walking away, and
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Speaker 1: we're like, cool, we'll wait.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And by unreasonable, it's like saying, we want to make
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Speaker 2: sure that in this new era of streaming in particular
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Speaker 2: as well well as the dawn of generative artificial intelligence,
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Speaker 2: that certain protections are in place so that people can
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Speaker 2: actually make a living as an actor. As we have
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Speaker 2: said numerous times, it is a very small percentage of
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Speaker 2: actors who actually make a living acting like that is
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Speaker 2: the one and only source of income in their lives.
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Speaker 2: Most actors are holding down other gigs in order to
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Speaker 2: be able to support their habit of acting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and like it wasn't. I did laugh a
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Speaker 1: little bit because a bunch of like higher echelon actors
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Speaker 1: came together and said, no, we're going to hold out
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Speaker 1: for a deal, And I'm like, I get that, and
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Speaker 1: their support is amazing and I'm not knocking it at all.
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Speaker 1: The actor union needs their support. They're a part of it.
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Speaker 1: They are affected by this too. But you know, as
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Speaker 1: we've talked about before, it's about the the the working
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Speaker 1: level actors, not the big stars. So it's also good
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Speaker 1: that the working level actors are like, no, we'll wait,
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Speaker 1: we've waited long enough.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's important, right because this is
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Speaker 2: this does determine their compensation moving forward, and if if
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Speaker 2: those working actors want to be able to get closer
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Speaker 2: to making a living wage doing their work, it's absolutely
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Speaker 2: imperative that these changes happen. The problem is, they're also
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Speaker 2: the ones who are the most at risk the longer
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Speaker 2: the strike goes. They're the ones who have the least
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Speaker 2: amount saved up, the least. They don't have the safety
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Speaker 2: nets that the massive movie stars have. And so like
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Speaker 2: the massive movie star might be saying, well, shucks, I
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Speaker 2: was gonna buy another private island, but I guess I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna have to wait till next month. Meanwhile, you have
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Speaker 2: working actors saying, can I make this sandwich stretch for
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Speaker 2: two meals?
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Speaker 1: Which you know I've done before I really got into
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Speaker 1: film acting, I did that too. But you know, the
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Speaker 1: the working class actors are also that's that's not the
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Speaker 1: right term for it. My brain is not functioning today
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Speaker 1: in that area. But you know they're willing to hold
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Speaker 1: out to because otherwise they will continue having to make
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Speaker 1: a sandwich stretch for two meals. Yes, so that's all good.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that things are moving forward. You know, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of like holiday slate in twenty twenty four
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Speaker 1: slate is all going to have to get pushed back
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Speaker 1: if things don't get resolved soon. So you know, the
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Speaker 1: producers are starting to feel the crunch.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean and like all those big companies
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Speaker 2: out there, like there's the one that starts with d
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Speaker 2: and ends with Isney that had put out like massive
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Speaker 2: slates of film and TV projects that span the course
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Speaker 2: of several years. Obviously those schedules are going to change.
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Speaker 2: In the case of that particular company, this might be
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Speaker 2: for the best because they have a whole lot of
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Speaker 2: things that they need to fix beyond compensation and benefits
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Speaker 2: for their actors. But again, we can save that conversation
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Speaker 2: for later when we're out of the strike. But for now,
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Speaker 2: what we' thought we'd talked about is spooky stuff, because,
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Speaker 2: like I said last week, the episode was really focusing
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Speaker 2: on that in advance of Halloween. Now Halloween has come
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Speaker 2: and gone, but spooky remains in our hearts. So we
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Speaker 2: thought we'd talked a bit about some spooky, geeky things
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Speaker 2: that we enjoy that aren't related to TV and film
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Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, I want to say I really
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Speaker 1: enjoyed this Halloween. I watched a spooky movie with my husband,
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Speaker 1: and obviously I can't name which one, but Jonathan, if
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Speaker 1: you remember, i'll tell you after I probably won't remember.
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Speaker 1: And we had three whole trigger treats this year, which
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Speaker 1: is better than previous sears.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Last year she got half of one and that
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Speaker 2: was disturbing.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and they were all like barely too, so it
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Speaker 1: was adorable. And then another super fun thing that happened
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Speaker 1: was some some of our listeners jumped in the cosplay
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Speaker 1: channel of Discord and chatted about cosplaying costumes and Blake
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Speaker 1: MoU love the costumes you shared with us. I wish
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Speaker 1: I had that talent, I told you in Discord, but
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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your costumes with us. That was
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Speaker 1: brilliantly awesome. Jonathan, what happened for you?
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Speaker 3: Nothing?
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Speaker 2: Okay? So Monday Halloween een, the Eve of all hellos, Eve,
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Speaker 2: was when I got my kidney stone and I still
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Speaker 2: had it on Tuesday Halloween, So my Halloween was there
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Speaker 2: was a lot of like ghostly moaning, but it was
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Speaker 2: all coming from me, and we did not have any
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Speaker 2: trick or treaters, which is what has happened the last
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Speaker 2: several years. But then again, I live in a townhouse.
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Speaker 2: It is kind of tucked back from the street a
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Speaker 2: little bit. We have like a yard kind of thing
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Speaker 2: that's in front, and we're on a street corner. And
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Speaker 2: the way that the street lights are it doesn't put
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of light into the courtyard area, and
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Speaker 2: the lights in front of our doors and stuff are
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Speaker 2: fairly dim as well, so it's not a very inviting place.
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Speaker 2: Like all of my neighbors are awesome. The houses are
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Speaker 2: in a very modern style. It doesn't look for boating necessarily,
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Speaker 2: but because it's dimly lit, it doesn't look welcoming either.
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Speaker 2: So we didn't get any trick or treaters. I did
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Speaker 2: watch some seasonally appropriate entertainment that obviously I'm not gonna
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Speaker 2: go into more detail, but I watched some stuff that
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Speaker 2: I'd never seen before, watched a couple of things I
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Speaker 2: had seen before but been years, and enjoyed that. And
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Speaker 2: that's about it. I didn't I couldn't go anywhere because
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Speaker 2: I was in so much discomfort. I did before that
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Speaker 2: a weekend before, not the weekend before Halloween, but the
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Speaker 2: weekend before that, I went to Six Flags over Georgia
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Speaker 2: to attend fright Fest for the very first time. So
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Speaker 2: fright Fest is like a lot of amusement parks around
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Speaker 2: the United States will have a Halloween themed or a
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Speaker 2: seasonally spooky themed element to their amusement parks. For six Flags,
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Speaker 2: it's called freight Fest. I had never been. I had
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Speaker 2: been to Six Flags a couple of times, thought I
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Speaker 2: would check that out, and let me just tell you,
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Speaker 2: I was thoroughly disappointed.
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Speaker 1: That's very sad because I went to fright Fest years
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Speaker 1: and years ago and had a lovely time. So why
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Speaker 1: were you disappointed, Jonathan?
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Speaker 2: So some of it was just purely circumstantial, Like we
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Speaker 2: get to fright Fest and went by we I mean,
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Speaker 2: friend of the show, shay Lee took me to fright Fest.
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Speaker 2: She had actually worked at fright Fest once upon a
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Speaker 2: time many years ago and had not been back since then.
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Speaker 2: So we go, and first entry into any of the
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Speaker 2: haunts was on top of your entry into the park,
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Speaker 2: so you had to purchase a wristband in order to
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Speaker 2: go into any of the haunted houses. And they had
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Speaker 2: like five or six different haunted houses when we got
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Speaker 2: in the line to get the wristbands was so long
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Speaker 2: that we said, all right, you know what, let's just
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Speaker 2: go ride a ride. We rode the best ride in
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Speaker 2: all of Six Flags. And it's not our roller coaster
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Speaker 2: and Ariel. You know what ride it is because I
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Speaker 2: talked about it last week, But.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's the Monster Mansion.
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Speaker 3: Yes, is that it is?
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Speaker 2: It is? It used to be called the Monster Plantation.
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Speaker 2: They have changed that because obviously plantation has some some
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Speaker 2: real ugly baggage attached to it, so they turned it
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Speaker 2: to a mansion instead of a plantation, although it does
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Speaker 2: still have a you know, classic anti Bellum south Field
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Speaker 2: to the locations and stuff inside it. It is a
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Speaker 2: dark ride. You're on a boat, you go through a
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Speaker 2: little river, and you can definitely tell that the former
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Speaker 2: imagineers were responsible for building this ride. It actually is
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Speaker 2: a replacement. Do you know what was in the place
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Speaker 2: of Monster Mansion before Monster Mansion was there?
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Speaker 1: I don't think I do. I think that was there
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Speaker 1: ever since I first started going as a young child.
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't have encountered it because they swapped it out
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Speaker 2: in the early eighties. But before it was Monster Mansion,
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Speaker 2: it was a ride that was themed after the works
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Speaker 2: of Joel Chandler Harris, who's the guy who wrote all
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Speaker 2: the Brear Rabbit and Brear Fox stories.
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Speaker 1: Gotcha.
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Speaker 2: And it was called the Okefinochi or Tales of the
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Speaker 2: Okie Fan or something, which is odd because that's not
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Speaker 2: where the Brain Rabbit stories are necessarily set. But it
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Speaker 2: was still a water dark ride. There are some videos
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Speaker 2: on YouTube that show footage of it, and it is,
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Speaker 2: fittingly for a show about spooky stuff, really unsettling. But
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Speaker 2: it's because it's because the the art style of the
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Speaker 2: figures and the limited amount of movement is really off putting.
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Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. I just thought you meant story wise. But
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Speaker 1: either way, I will say in the summer, like Monster Mansion,
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Speaker 1: it's not like the best ride ever, but it is
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Speaker 1: one of the coolest rides you can go, like temperature wise. Yes,
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Speaker 1: in the middle of summer, so that makes it decent.
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Speaker 1: The line is very long.
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Speaker 2: This line was also very long. We waited in line
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Speaker 2: for about an hour to get on this ride. The
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Speaker 2: ride does not last very long. It's like maybe five
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Speaker 2: or six minutes, even for a dark ride. It's not
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Speaker 2: super long, but it's one of those rides where it's
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Speaker 2: like it's kind of lighthearted, and we knew all the
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Speaker 2: roller coaster lines were going to be even longer, so
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Speaker 2: we rode that. Then we started to walk around in
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Speaker 2: areas that are called scare zones, which are set up
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Speaker 2: in different themes around the park. So they had one
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Speaker 2: that was themed after like zombies and the Grim Reaper
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Speaker 2: and stuff. They had one themed after insects, they had
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Speaker 2: one themed after aliens. Because there's a place in Georgia.
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Speaker 2: Ariel knows this very well called Roswell, Georgia. Yeah, so
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Speaker 2: they named it Roswell Georgia, but Roswell in the style
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Speaker 2: of Roswell, New Mexico, the supposed site of alien crashes.
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Speaker 2: The thing that bothered me was that, with the exception
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Speaker 2: of the Graveyard one, we didn't see any scare actors
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Speaker 2: at all, not a single scare actor in any of
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Speaker 2: the other zones. So it meant that the zones were
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Speaker 2: just these static tableau of a horror scene. But there's
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Speaker 2: nothing horrifying about it because it's just like it's you know,
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Speaker 2: it's just obviously like plastic figures and stuff like that.
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Speaker 2: There's no there's no interaction. It wasn't immersive, and I
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Speaker 2: was deeply disappointed. And I watched a video. Actually this
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Speaker 2: is since we tried to record last week, but I
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Speaker 2: watched a video on YouTube where a guy went to
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Speaker 2: six Flags the weekend before I did, when it was raining,
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Speaker 2: and he was like also commenting on the fact that
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Speaker 2: there were no scare actors in any of the scare
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Speaker 2: zones and he thought, well, maybe it's because of the rain. Well,
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Speaker 2: I can tell you it wasn't because of the rain,
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Speaker 2: because the weather was perfect when I was there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought maybe it was because like they
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Speaker 1: had all got pulled to an event or were on
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Speaker 1: break or something happened. But you went through the scare
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Speaker 1: zones a couple of times.
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I saw two actors and they were
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Speaker 2: both in the little cemetery, one as grim reapers, and
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Speaker 2: mostly what they were doing was the living statue routine.
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Speaker 2: I'm staying very still and only occasionally moving to creep
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Speaker 2: someone out, So there wasn't a whole lot going on there.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I just I feel like I feel like
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Speaker 2: six Flags cut way way back on their budget for
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Speaker 2: live performers for a freight fest. And I mean, from
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Speaker 2: what I've heard Six Flags has been in kind of
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Speaker 2: a decline financially over the last couple of years, so
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Speaker 2: maybe that has something to do with it. They just
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Speaker 2: didn't have a budget for that. That's a possibility. I
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Speaker 2: don't have any confirmation on that. That's just guesswork on
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Speaker 2: my side. But it really bummed me out because it
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Speaker 2: reminded me. We've talked about this at length before, but
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Speaker 2: it reminded me of the Renaissance Festival and how street
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Speaker 2: characters aren't. They do not appear to be valued very highly,
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Speaker 2: at least on the management side of the Georgia Renaissance
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Speaker 2: Festival from my perspective, and that's a shame because I
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Speaker 2: feel like they create so much atmosphere and flavor that
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Speaker 2: it elevates the experience, because I can tell you walking
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Speaker 2: through those scare zones was just kind of sad as
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Speaker 2: opposed to scary.
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Speaker 1: Well, what did you think of the haunted houses? Right,
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Speaker 1: because they have to have actors in the haunted houses.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they do. Never got into one because that
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Speaker 2: riskband line was so long, and when we finally went
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Speaker 2: by and the line was short at that point, it
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Speaker 2: was like we might have been able to get the
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Speaker 2: lines for the haunted houses themselves were super long as well,
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Speaker 2: so even if we had gotten a wriskband, we would
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Speaker 2: have then have to go and wait in another very
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Speaker 2: long line to experience the haunted house. So I didn't
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Speaker 2: get to go in one, which means, dear listeners, to
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Speaker 2: this day, this man, who is now eight and forty
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Speaker 2: years of age, has never been into a haunted house.
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Speaker 1: You know that's a shame. I think you'd enjoy one.
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Speaker 1: We should go at some point. I'm not a huge
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Speaker 1: fan of haunted houses, and I'll tell that story, but
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Speaker 1: I really think you'd enjoy one, and if I have
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Speaker 1: enough people to hide between, then I will go. So
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Speaker 1: I have been to the haunted houses at fright Fest once.
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Speaker 1: At the time, I had a couple of friends working
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Speaker 1: the specifically the dark one. They give you little flashlights
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Speaker 1: and you basically walk through a dark house, but there's
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Speaker 1: scary actors and costumes and things all throughout, kind of
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Speaker 1: behind like they were like chain walls if I remember correctly. Anyhow,
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Speaker 1: I also had to stand in a very long line
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Speaker 1: to get in, which gave these two friends who were
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Speaker 1: kind of managing the haunted house, a chance to see
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Speaker 1: me in line and tell all the actors inside the
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Speaker 1: house my name is what I was wearing, which really sucked. No,
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Speaker 1: it was very funny in hindsight. It was very scary
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Speaker 1: at the time because I walk in and the first
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Speaker 1: like scared person's in the lobby and like some sort
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Speaker 1: of like dark hood something and walks past me and
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Speaker 1: says like welcome Ariel or something whispers it in my ear,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I must have just heard things. So
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Speaker 1: we go in and I didn't just hear things. By
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Speaker 1: the time I got to the middle of the haunted house, ever,
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Speaker 1: scare aacter was like focusing on me and screaming my name,
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Speaker 1: and I like I jetted out the exit being chased
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Speaker 1: by a chainsaw, and like thankfully my friends were there
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Speaker 1: to catch me, because I was ready to jump over
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Speaker 1: like the railing and into the line below me just
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Speaker 1: to get away. But that has been my general I
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Speaker 1: don't think i'd have that experience now. For one thing,
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Speaker 1: one of the friends that helped run that no longer
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Speaker 1: lives in Georgia. But also at the time, I knew
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Speaker 1: a lot of people like the other big haunted house
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Speaker 1: in Georgia is another world. They used to be seasonal
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Speaker 1: and now they're actually just full time in like East Georgia.
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Speaker 1: They've got like escape rooms and various different haunted House
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Speaker 1: themed haunted houses that you can go through. And I
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Speaker 1: would go there and I'd usually again sandwich myself between people,
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Speaker 1: and like there were times where I'd put like the
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Speaker 1: person I was with behind me and then introduce myself
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Speaker 1: to the people in front of me and be like, Hi,
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Speaker 1: my name is Ariel. Do you mind if I hide
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Speaker 1: my face in your back if I need? And I
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Speaker 1: would go through like that because a lot of the
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Speaker 1: scared acters knew me, and so Haunted House actors are
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Speaker 1: not supposed to touch you, you know. And that's for
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Speaker 1: their safety too, because if you get scared new punch them,
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Speaker 1: you know they're gonna get injured. I actually know someone
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Speaker 1: who worked I think at Another World and got like
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Speaker 1: her tooth punched out because someone had affect sort of
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Speaker 1: a flight reaction. Yeah, but they would come I'm not
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Speaker 1: that kind of person. I'm the kind of person that
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Speaker 1: just like cries and screams and huddles into a little ball.
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Speaker 1: And so many people would come up and like touch
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Speaker 1: my hair or touch my shoulder or get like like
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Speaker 1: extra mess with me, which is not cool, but also
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Speaker 1: like they knew they they knew that they would be okay. Again,
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Speaker 1: funny in hindsight, but.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Another World has like super high production value.
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Speaker 3: I mean they they do.
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Speaker 2: They spend a lot of money creating really really effective
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Speaker 2: you know, costumes and makeup effects and actual effects within
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Speaker 2: the haunted houses. Again, I haven't done one, haven't been
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Speaker 2: in it, but I did get to interview some of
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Speaker 2: the folks who created the effects there because I did
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Speaker 2: a years and years ago. I did an episode of
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Speaker 2: tech Stuff where I talked about the technology behind haunted Houses,
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Speaker 2: and it was absolutely fascinating because obviously there is that
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Speaker 2: balance there. You want something that's going to have a
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Speaker 2: big impact and be really effective, but you also have
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Speaker 2: to obviously keep safety first and foremost in your mind.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was really really neat just to learn
20:43
Speaker 2: from it, and it made me want to on a
20:46
Speaker 2: technical level experience it. I wasn't sure how I would
20:50
Speaker 2: handle it, like from an anxiety level. I mean, I love,
20:55
Speaker 2: I love scary movies and stuff, but like, I don't
20:59
Speaker 2: know how I would react in the actual, more immersive
21:03
Speaker 2: kind of experience because I just haven't ever done that.
21:07
Speaker 2: But yeah, it from a technical perspective, I respect the
21:11
Speaker 2: heck out of it.
21:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, and nether World does something really cool, or they did.
21:15
Speaker 1: I haven't been since the pandemic and it was a
21:17
Speaker 1: couple of years since I had gone before then even
21:20
Speaker 1: but they have like different hottay houses. So they've got
21:22
Speaker 1: one that's like very real fears like trucks and bugs
21:25
Speaker 1: and surgery and stuff like that, and I don't like that.
21:28
Speaker 1: I don't like fears that could actually happen. I don't it,
21:31
Speaker 1: just why. But then they have like the the dark
21:34
Speaker 1: fantasy Coathulian, you know, clowns, cannibals whatever, I guess not.
21:39
Speaker 1: No clowns and cannibals are in the real one, sorry, Mermaids,
21:42
Speaker 1: things like that, vampires and mummies that come to life,
21:47
Speaker 1: and just a little bit more fantastical. And then they
21:49
Speaker 1: used to have I don't know if they still do,
21:51
Speaker 1: like a black light one, so you'd put on like
21:53
Speaker 1: three D glasses and everything was painted with like black
21:56
Speaker 1: light paint and it would pop out and it made
21:58
Speaker 1: it hard to navigate something. One of the best scares
22:02
Speaker 1: because you can kind of you can kind of prime
22:05
Speaker 1: yourself if you want if you don't want to be
22:07
Speaker 1: fully immersive it, or you just need to like not
22:09
Speaker 1: be as scared and look for the scare actors and
22:12
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, I see you're gonna jump out
22:14
Speaker 1: at me. Ha haa, Okay, you jumped out at me
22:15
Speaker 1: right like you can usually prime pretty well. This is
22:20
Speaker 1: not a challenge. If I have any scareacter friends listening,
22:22
Speaker 1: and I go to a haunted house that you're at,
22:24
Speaker 1: not a challenge. Please don't extra scare me. But in
22:30
Speaker 1: this three D haunted house, the black Light one, like,
22:33
Speaker 1: they had a room that was just like a black
22:35
Speaker 1: It was just like all black walls with like stars
22:37
Speaker 1: painted on it or something like that, just some sort
22:40
Speaker 1: of design painted on it, and a person in an
22:42
Speaker 1: all black suit with the same design painted on it.
22:44
Speaker 1: And because you're wearing the three D glasses, you have
22:47
Speaker 1: crappy depth perception, and so they didn't even have to
22:51
Speaker 1: scare you. They just had to kind of like walk
22:53
Speaker 1: out in front of you a couple of feet and
22:55
Speaker 1: it would startle the Jesus out of you because you
22:58
Speaker 1: couldn't see them moving until.
23:00
Speaker 3: They were right.
23:02
Speaker 2: That sounds pretty incredible and incredibly effective. I'm so intrigued,
23:10
Speaker 2: But I honestly, I don't know how I would react
23:12
Speaker 2: in these situations. So part of me worries that I
23:14
Speaker 2: wouldn't react in a way that was supportive. And that's
23:17
Speaker 2: what I would most want to do. Like, I don't
23:20
Speaker 2: ever want to be one of those guys who's like,
23:23
Speaker 2: that's not scary, because I think that's so disrespectful. And
23:29
Speaker 2: and if you're going to do that, why did you
23:30
Speaker 2: pay to go and like scoff at the folks who
23:33
Speaker 2: are trying to, you know, do this work. They're not
23:36
Speaker 2: getting paid very much, y'all, and they're trying to make
23:39
Speaker 2: your your spooky season extra spooky. So if you're just
23:43
Speaker 2: going to and you're determined to be like that's not
23:45
Speaker 2: scary or whatever, it doesn't make you seem like you're
23:48
Speaker 2: a big deal or that you're super brave. It makes
23:51
Speaker 2: you seem pretty like lame and not fun. So I
23:58
Speaker 2: would want to make sure I reacted in a way
24:00
Speaker 2: that made the actors feel like that was a good one.
24:03
Speaker 2: This guy, this guy is a good patron.
24:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I do think you should give
24:10
Speaker 1: it a try at some point. Have you ever been
24:14
Speaker 1: to like a corn maze or a haunted hay ride
24:16
Speaker 1: or anything that's like haunted house adjacent.
24:21
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, two things that I can do that are
24:24
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood the mister Rogers neighborhood of haunted houses.
24:28
Speaker 2: And one is corn mazes or is I like to
24:31
Speaker 2: call them maze mazes. And I've done that once no twice,
24:37
Speaker 2: I think, and I loved it. I was like, this
24:40
Speaker 2: is really cool. It was in the daytime, so it
24:42
Speaker 2: wasn't like hard to navigate or anything. It was still
24:45
Speaker 2: a great maze, like legitimately well designed, so it took
24:48
Speaker 2: some time to make your way through, but I really
24:51
Speaker 2: had a great time. It was like just a need
24:54
Speaker 2: activity to do. There was a small group of us
24:56
Speaker 2: and we were all kind of sticking together and navigating
24:58
Speaker 2: through the maze, and I really enjoyed that. And I've
25:02
Speaker 2: done some hay ride stuff too, although I would just
25:05
Speaker 2: call it like here's a way to waste fifteen minutes
25:09
Speaker 2: and to eat up some tickets at this little affair
25:12
Speaker 2: like they wasn't particularly like a haunted hay ride or
25:15
Speaker 2: anything like that. It was just it was more like
25:17
Speaker 2: a fall festival kind of thing as opposed to a
25:19
Speaker 2: Halloween specific kind of thing. But the other haunted house
25:24
Speaker 2: adjacent activity I have done is that I finally, after
25:28
Speaker 2: years of knowing about it, went on a ghost tour
25:33
Speaker 2: in Marietta, Georgia. It was led by this really eccentric
25:40
Speaker 2: tour guide, very very enthusiastic, very knowledgeable, very eccentric. Let's see,
25:46
Speaker 2: I think her name was shay Lee. Yeah, it was shay.
25:53
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:54
Speaker 2: Shaye was offered to let me tag along on one
25:58
Speaker 2: of her ghost tours, and so I got to see
26:01
Speaker 2: her do her work. And the stories that she tells
26:05
Speaker 2: are not like terrifying and blood curdling. It's more of
26:10
Speaker 2: like sort of the romantic ghost stories, right, Like not
26:14
Speaker 2: the super spooky, scary, terrify you you're never going to
26:17
Speaker 2: go to sleep kind of stories, but more of the sad, tragic,
26:21
Speaker 2: romantic kind of stories. And they were really interesting, and
26:24
Speaker 2: we got to walk around the historic Marietta Square and
26:29
Speaker 2: learn about the architecture and some of the buildings and
26:31
Speaker 2: the history of the buildings. Like it really was more
26:34
Speaker 2: of a history walking tour with some ghost stuff added on.
26:37
Speaker 2: But to me, that was perfect. It's exactly the kind
26:40
Speaker 2: of thing that I'm into, and I really enjoyed it.
26:42
Speaker 2: She did a great job. Also nice got to learn
26:45
Speaker 2: a lot about a wild tunnel system that's under that
26:51
Speaker 2: town that's actually dates back to the eighteen hundreds. It's
26:54
Speaker 2: pretty cool.
26:56
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool. Yeah, I've never been to the Marietta
26:59
Speaker 1: Ghost Tour, but I I've done the Roswell one a
27:01
Speaker 1: couple of times, and it is interesting because you know,
27:04
Speaker 1: the ghost stories are tied to the architecture in the
27:06
Speaker 1: history of the town and historic Roswell. One of the
27:11
Speaker 1: things that's big is there was like a textile mill
27:13
Speaker 1: that got burnt down during the the Confederate the Civil.
27:19
Speaker 2: War, Sherman's March to the Sea.
27:24
Speaker 1: Something like that, and so like a lot of it's
27:27
Speaker 1: like just really cool ghost stories. Like there's one about
27:32
Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin it for you or anybody,
27:34
Speaker 1: but there's one about like a building that when it
27:37
Speaker 1: got rebuilt, the walls kept like getting like water leaks
27:41
Speaker 1: in them, and it was suspected that it was the
27:45
Speaker 1: ghosts of the women waiting for their husbands to come
27:47
Speaker 1: home from the mill. When the houses got rebuilt with electricity,
27:50
Speaker 1: they didn't understand electricity and they thought it was fire
27:52
Speaker 1: and the walls, so they kept trying to put out
27:53
Speaker 1: the fire. So really fun and cool ghost stories, Like
27:57
Speaker 1: there's a couple about like people getting like scares of
28:01
Speaker 1: like ghosts running at them, but it's never super grotesque
28:04
Speaker 1: or anything. Yeah, but you don't believe in ghosts.
28:08
Speaker 2: I do not believe in ghosts. I have heard various
28:12
Speaker 2: ghost stories about places that I lived close to. Like,
28:16
Speaker 2: for example, I used to live in a place called Gainesville, Georgia,
28:20
Speaker 2: and there is a college in that area called Brenew.
28:25
Speaker 2: It's a liberal arts college, and Brenew has a really
28:30
Speaker 2: really really nice theater and that's where like the community
28:35
Speaker 2: theater stuff between Brenew and Gainesville College, which is now
28:39
Speaker 2: part of the University of Georgia. They would do these
28:43
Speaker 2: amazing productions at this theater, and so often as a student,
28:48
Speaker 2: we would take like a field trip to go see
28:50
Speaker 2: a show that was meant for like, you know, kids
28:52
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I remember hearing stories about how a
28:57
Speaker 2: building that faced out toward the front of the theater
29:00
Speaker 2: there was supposedly a ghost residing in one of the rooms,
29:04
Speaker 2: and that on occasion, if you looked up at just
29:07
Speaker 2: the right moment, you could catch a ghostly face looking
29:11
Speaker 2: out at the window and would always move out of
29:14
Speaker 2: the way shortly after being spotted was the story, and
29:17
Speaker 2: that this was supposedly a former student of Branow. I
29:21
Speaker 2: don't think I ever got the full story about, you know,
29:24
Speaker 2: supposedly how they became ghostified, but I remember that one clearly.
29:29
Speaker 2: My favorite ghost in all of Georgia is the ghost
29:33
Speaker 2: of Captain Flint, who supposedly haunts a restaurant in Savannah,
29:39
Speaker 2: Georgia called I think it's called the Pirate House. And
29:43
Speaker 2: the reason why he's my favorite is because Captain Flint
29:45
Speaker 2: is a fictional character in Treasure Island. It never existed,
29:50
Speaker 2: so the ghost of the ghost of a fictional character
29:54
Speaker 2: haunts this pirate restaurant. It is in one of the
29:56
Speaker 2: oldest buildings in Georgia, so it's it le yet is
30:00
Speaker 2: a building that has a ton of history associated with it.
30:03
Speaker 2: But it just it made me laugh so hard the
30:05
Speaker 2: first time I heard that this this restaurant is haunted
30:08
Speaker 2: by the ghost of Captain Flint, I'm like, oh, I
30:10
Speaker 2: wonder could it also be haunted I don't know, by
30:14
Speaker 2: the the ghost of Gaston or maybe the ghost of
30:19
Speaker 2: Darth Vader.
30:20
Speaker 3: I don't know.
30:22
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent now you've you've had the chance
30:27
Speaker 1: to stay in a haunted area before, right, Yep?
30:34
Speaker 2: A couple times, mostly in London, because everything in London
30:38
Speaker 2: is older than the United States is as a country.
30:42
Speaker 2: I've stayed at a few places in London that were
30:44
Speaker 2: supposedly haunted. Never saw anything spooky, apart from like really
30:51
Speaker 2: bad plumbing, which isn't so much as spooky as it
30:54
Speaker 2: is terrifying because you'll step into a shower and you
30:57
Speaker 2: don't know if you're gonna boil your skin off or
30:59
Speaker 2: freeze yourself. But when I was honeymooning in London many
31:08
Speaker 2: many years ago, my spouse and I we were ready
31:14
Speaker 2: to fly back to America. And my spouse works for
31:17
Speaker 2: an airline, and so she and I were going to
31:20
Speaker 2: fly stand by from London to the United States, which
31:25
Speaker 2: means you haven't purchased a seat, You get a seat
31:29
Speaker 2: if there's one available, and if there's not, you gotta
31:32
Speaker 2: wait for the next flight. Well, we get there and
31:35
Speaker 2: there are a ton of standby passengers. And my wife
31:39
Speaker 2: did not have a lot of seniority with this particular
31:42
Speaker 2: airline at this point. She had not been working there
31:45
Speaker 2: for many many years. She had been working there for
31:48
Speaker 2: a few but it's all based on seniority, and so
31:52
Speaker 2: it became very clear that we were not going to
31:54
Speaker 2: make the flight, and that meant that we had to
31:57
Speaker 2: start trying to make a decision. Do we stay in
31:59
Speaker 2: London and try again the next day because there were
32:02
Speaker 2: no other flights that were going to work, or do
32:05
Speaker 2: we fly to a different city in the UK and
32:09
Speaker 2: try to fly out the next day from there instead.
32:13
Speaker 2: And the thing that made this decision very, very difficult
32:17
Speaker 2: is that one of the other passengers who was trying
32:19
Speaker 2: to fly stand by was on a buddy pass, which
32:22
Speaker 2: is an even lower priority than where we were. And
32:28
Speaker 2: this gentleman was a Yeoman of the Guard, meaning he
32:32
Speaker 2: was one of the members of the British Armed Forces
32:38
Speaker 2: who was assigned to the Tower of London, possibly the
32:43
Speaker 2: most supposedly haunted place in all of England. So many
32:48
Speaker 2: famous people met the end of their life at the
32:50
Speaker 2: Tower of London. And he was offering to other stand
32:55
Speaker 2: by passengers the chance to stay in the apartments at
33:01
Speaker 2: the Tower of London if they needed a place to stay,
33:04
Speaker 2: because they weren't going to be able to fly out
33:05
Speaker 2: that night. And it was torture because everything in us
33:10
Speaker 2: told us we wanted to take that opportunity. I mean,
33:13
Speaker 2: you could stay in the Tower of London on your honeymoon.
33:17
Speaker 2: That's an insane story. But when we did the math, awesome, yes, awesome,
33:24
Speaker 2: truly like it would have been like a fantastic one
33:27
Speaker 2: to tell and I would have been absolutely head over
33:30
Speaker 2: heels in love with the idea. But we did the
33:34
Speaker 2: math and it just it looked like there was no
33:36
Speaker 2: possible way for us to get out of London the
33:38
Speaker 2: next day. So instead, what we did was we took
33:42
Speaker 2: a local flight to Manchester and then stayed overnight in
33:45
Speaker 2: Manchester and the next day we flew from Manchester to
33:48
Speaker 2: the United States, and we were you know, it was
33:51
Speaker 2: the right decision to make because we needed to get
33:53
Speaker 2: back in order to get to our jobs and stuff.
33:55
Speaker 2: Our vacation was running out. But it still was very
33:59
Speaker 2: sad that we didn't get the chance to stay in
34:01
Speaker 2: like the most haunted site of all of London. Not
34:04
Speaker 2: that I think I would have seen any ghosts, but
34:05
Speaker 2: from a historical perspective, I would have loved it.
34:09
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've never had the opportunity to say somewhere
34:13
Speaker 1: that cool, that's haunted you know. But I have my
34:19
Speaker 1: very first community theater that I was a part of
34:24
Speaker 1: as an actor. Like I have memories of my parents
34:29
Speaker 1: working in community theater or in theater when I was
34:33
Speaker 1: very young, but as a teenager, I acted at a
34:36
Speaker 1: theater and I hung out there and I helped out there,
34:38
Speaker 1: and I stage managed and even assistant directed once, and
34:42
Speaker 1: I ran concessions and all this other stuff. And I
34:45
Speaker 1: would get there early in the morning, and like in theory,
34:48
Speaker 1: it was haunted there, and there would be someone who
34:50
Speaker 1: would go up into the orchestra and play the piano,
34:53
Speaker 1: or who would play with the scrims, and sometimes you'd
34:54
Speaker 1: hear stuff like that when you knew you were the
34:56
Speaker 1: only person in there. I never saw a ghost, and
34:59
Speaker 1: I assumed that some of it was probably like music
35:01
Speaker 1: coming from the alleyway behind or footsteps echoing from outfront.
35:06
Speaker 1: But in theory, that was haunted. And then I've gone
35:10
Speaker 1: to hard Labor Creek State Park, which in theory is haunted.
35:14
Speaker 1: But I think that might just be because a lot
35:17
Speaker 1: of state parks are in theory haunted. But I think
35:19
Speaker 1: it just might be because that's where they filmed a
35:21
Speaker 1: bunch of like scary Halloween movies.
35:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.
35:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when we recorded this the first time last week,
35:28
Speaker 2: I told a story about how I at first thought
35:31
Speaker 2: that that particular camp was haunted because I was there
35:34
Speaker 2: for an SCA event and I was walking back toward
35:39
Speaker 2: the cabin I was staying at at night and there
35:42
Speaker 2: was very limited light. I didn't have a flashlight or anything.
35:44
Speaker 2: This was before I had a cell phone, so I
35:47
Speaker 2: didn't have a phone to hold up or anything. And
35:49
Speaker 2: I heard a noise of someone making like a very
35:56
Speaker 2: rushed exhalation, like and it was very loud, and it
36:02
Speaker 2: came immediately to my right and I turned to look
36:04
Speaker 2: and I couldn't see anything until I saw this big
36:08
Speaker 2: shape start to move, not toward me, but in front
36:12
Speaker 2: of me. And it turned out it was a buck.
36:14
Speaker 2: It was a deer. But yeah, for a while there,
36:19
Speaker 2: I believed in pretty much every supernatural creature that you
36:22
Speaker 2: could put your finger too, because I had no idea
36:24
Speaker 2: what the heck had made that noise. I can't even
36:28
Speaker 2: express to you how terrified I was. Even when I
36:32
Speaker 2: found out it was a deer, I was still scared
36:34
Speaker 2: because those suckers can mess you up.
36:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've had plenty of shares scares at state
36:41
Speaker 1: parks that like, I know what caused them, and it's
36:45
Speaker 1: perfectly logical, but it has caused irrational fear in me
36:48
Speaker 1: since then. So I completely understand.
36:52
Speaker 2: You know, Ariel, something we didn't talk about last time,
36:56
Speaker 2: and I don't talk about it much at all because
36:59
Speaker 2: I have complicated feelings about it. You and I participated
37:06
Speaker 2: in a spooky theatrical immersive murder mystery type thing once
37:12
Speaker 2: upon a time.
37:13
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did.
37:15
Speaker 2: We did this was this was like a decade or
37:17
Speaker 2: more than a decade ago.
37:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had fun with it. So, like we went
37:24
Speaker 1: to this courthouse and it was like a dinner theater,
37:29
Speaker 1: and we each got a group and we brought them
37:31
Speaker 1: to a room and we would do like a sam
37:33
Speaker 1: like call ghosts kind of a thing, and everybody had
37:37
Speaker 1: like their own little stick to it. And in this courthouse,
37:41
Speaker 1: of course, also in theory was actually haunted. Uh. I
37:45
Speaker 1: think the the rumors like clocks would reset themselves or
37:49
Speaker 1: change time.
37:49
Speaker 2: Oh, we definitely had issues with that during the production.
37:53
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, because we were all supposed to have
37:58
Speaker 1: like the penultimate ski point of our room happened at
38:01
Speaker 1: the same time, but it didn't yeah, no, we were.
38:06
Speaker 2: We would synchronize so so, to give you more of
38:08
Speaker 2: an outline of what was going on is that each
38:11
Speaker 2: person was playing a sort of paranormal investigator and from
38:15
Speaker 2: all different backgrounds, and for some reason we all wanted
38:17
Speaker 2: to be foreign. I don't know why, but we all.
38:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could not be Australian.
38:24
Speaker 2: I am sad that I went with German, but yeah,
38:28
Speaker 2: I should have just gone with American. It would have
38:30
Speaker 2: been much easier.
38:31
Speaker 1: But yeah.
38:32
Speaker 2: The idea was that we would have a small group,
38:34
Speaker 2: a subset of the overall group, and that we would
38:38
Speaker 2: give some information to them that would give them part
38:41
Speaker 2: of the picture of this tragedy that happened, and that
38:46
Speaker 2: at some point in the process of doing this, theoretically
38:51
Speaker 2: synchronized across all the rooms, we would a par normal
38:56
Speaker 2: thing would happen, and we would act out our part
39:00
Speaker 2: like we had been possessed by a spirit. We would
39:02
Speaker 2: act out our part of the drama. But you again,
39:05
Speaker 2: the people gathered would only see that bit of it.
39:08
Speaker 2: Then at the end, when everyone regathered together, we would
39:12
Speaker 2: come together and still possessed by these spirits, would act
39:15
Speaker 2: out the full scene that would explain what had happened
39:19
Speaker 2: and what had led to this place supposedly being haunted
39:22
Speaker 2: by these different spirits. It was a neat idea. I
39:25
Speaker 2: think we probably needed another month to really workshop it
39:29
Speaker 2: so that it would have really good execution, because ultimately,
39:34
Speaker 2: I think it was it didn't live up to the
39:38
Speaker 2: premise it It was so technically challenging to do that.
39:43
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know how people who visited
39:46
Speaker 2: felt about it, but as a performer, I was like,
39:49
Speaker 2: I wanted that to be better than what it was.
39:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very technically challenging. I agree that. I mean,
39:57
Speaker 1: I know everybody involved in they're all good actors, but
39:59
Speaker 1: I think, you know, yeah, some more tech rehearsals definitely
40:02
Speaker 1: would have not hurt. Yeah, because yeah, it was. It
40:07
Speaker 1: was very It was very intricate in its design, and
40:10
Speaker 1: I think that's really cool, like you said, a fun concept.
40:13
Speaker 1: But I also found that, like in my room, I
40:17
Speaker 1: maybe like where I going to do it again? Would
40:19
Speaker 1: figure out more to do because I felt like I
40:21
Speaker 1: kind of ended up having to stall a lot.
40:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
40:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like electronic voice phenomena stuff that I
40:29
Speaker 2: had made by myself, Like I'd use some audio recording
40:34
Speaker 2: software and then I did some like reversal of voices
40:37
Speaker 2: and things like that so I could have something to
40:40
Speaker 2: like a prop to play with, and that helped me
40:43
Speaker 2: eat up time. But like I that was something I
40:47
Speaker 2: did on my own so that I could have something
40:51
Speaker 2: to eat up time. Like we were also given a
40:53
Speaker 2: ton of freedom to determine how our room would actually
40:58
Speaker 2: play out. And again, like without having that incredible uh
41:05
Speaker 2: integration and to be able to rehearse it over and
41:10
Speaker 2: over to make sure that you have the timing down. Uh,
41:13
Speaker 2: it just it just became a little less polished than
41:17
Speaker 2: what I would prefer. I don't think it was bad.
41:20
Speaker 2: I just don't think it was as good as it
41:22
Speaker 2: could have been based upon the idea was incredible. We
41:26
Speaker 2: just I think part of the also, the part of
41:27
Speaker 2: the challenge was that none of us had ever done
41:30
Speaker 2: anything like that before, like that specifically, I had theater,
41:33
Speaker 2: Oh you.
41:34
Speaker 1: Had, Oh I had done. I had done a murder
41:37
Speaker 1: mystery with OH.
41:38
Speaker 2: I had done murder mysteries, but I hadn't done murder
41:41
Speaker 2: mysteries where everyone is split up and everything is supposed
41:46
Speaker 2: to be happening simultaneously. I had done murder mystery where
41:50
Speaker 2: the scenes play out in front of everybody in a
41:53
Speaker 2: centralized location.
41:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how That's how the other murder mysteries with
41:57
Speaker 1: this group have done, where we all had characters and
41:59
Speaker 1: we'd go around the party and we'd have interactions that
42:02
Speaker 1: would drop clues. But it was it was it was
42:04
Speaker 1: like we had some planned interactions, but they were also
42:07
Speaker 1: just like motivations, and then you could drop scene improv
42:11
Speaker 1: scenes about it, which went really well. We did it
42:13
Speaker 1: quite a few times. But yeah, if I think another
42:17
Speaker 1: part of the problem is that you and I are
42:19
Speaker 1: kind of perfectionists, and so I think I recall hearing
42:24
Speaker 1: that people really liked it, and I think that you
42:26
Speaker 1: and I are just also very very particular about yes. Yeah,
42:33
Speaker 1: so you know, that's something to keep in mind. I
42:37
Speaker 1: would do it again. I would, especially knowing what I
42:41
Speaker 1: know now, and probably do better.
42:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.
42:46
Speaker 2: If I were to do it again, I would. I
42:49
Speaker 2: would take a much more methodical approach, because the whole
42:52
Speaker 2: thing was very like we weren't working from an existing
42:55
Speaker 2: script when we started. The whole story was craft from
43:01
Speaker 2: the beginning, Like we started with, all right, what's the tragedy,
43:04
Speaker 2: how does it unfold? That's the starting point and then
43:08
Speaker 2: we broke up and like each person was playing a
43:10
Speaker 2: particular character in this unfolding story and then working backward
43:16
Speaker 2: from that, how does your paranormal investigator encounter that particular
43:21
Speaker 2: spirit and how does it play out in the room
43:24
Speaker 2: that you'll be in? And I think that's not a
43:27
Speaker 2: bad idea, but I think that having more of it
43:32
Speaker 2: kind of set up in advance so that you have
43:35
Speaker 2: a really satisfying payoff would be would be easier, like
43:40
Speaker 2: not putting the load on all the performers who already
43:43
Speaker 2: have to worry about actually executing the thing. But we
43:47
Speaker 2: weren't just performers, We were technically performers and writers that
43:50
Speaker 2: for that project.
43:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we are getting close to time, so real quick, Johnathan,
44:00
Speaker 1: and any favorite scary books or podcasts you could recommend
44:04
Speaker 1: for people who maybe are not quite ready to jump
44:07
Speaker 1: into the happier holiday spirit like me, Oh like, I'm
44:11
Speaker 1: sorry that was confusing. I am ready to start decorating
44:14
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving and Christmas and all of that happy, good
44:17
Speaker 1: cook for everybody time. But for the people who aren't,
44:20
Speaker 1: any book or podcast recommendations.
44:23
Speaker 2: Absolutely so for books like I'm a fan of early
44:31
Speaker 2: Stephen King books, but also up to like the middle
44:34
Speaker 2: I think of the middle of his career. I haven't
44:37
Speaker 2: read most of his work over the last decade and
44:40
Speaker 2: a half, but like the book Needful Things is possibly
44:43
Speaker 2: my favorite Stephen King book. I think it's really well done.
44:47
Speaker 2: It's incredibly atmospheric, it's super creepy. So check that out
44:52
Speaker 2: if you can find a copy of it. My dad's
44:56
Speaker 2: horror novel, Shadow Show, is really good. And I know
45:00
Speaker 2: I'm biased, but I really think that that is an
45:03
Speaker 2: amazing horror novel. You can actually, I think, find an
45:06
Speaker 2: electronic copy. It's been out of physical print for many
45:10
Speaker 2: years now, but it's well worth a read. Just remember
45:13
Speaker 2: that it was written like in the eighties because it's
45:15
Speaker 2: a different, different vibe. I would also say that for podcasts,
45:23
Speaker 2: the Thirteen Days of Halloween podcast. I know the people
45:25
Speaker 2: who work on that because that's an iHeart podcast show,
45:31
Speaker 2: and they get some incredible performers to do some really
45:36
Speaker 2: great audio work, some immersive audio, three D audio stuff
45:41
Speaker 2: for that series. And if you listen to season two
45:45
Speaker 2: of Thirteen Days of Halloween and you look at I
45:49
Speaker 2: think it's episode ten, but it's called The Doctor, you
45:52
Speaker 2: might very well hear a certain llenc host playing a
45:57
Speaker 2: part in that show.
45:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you do good job, you do good works.
46:03
Speaker 1: Thank you. I talk good. I don't really have any
46:07
Speaker 1: book recommendations. A lot of like the scarier books that
46:10
Speaker 1: I've read have left me in a place to not
46:12
Speaker 1: want to read scarier books, like scary Stories to Tell
46:15
Speaker 1: in the Dark, or anthologies of like HP Lovecraft. I
46:21
Speaker 1: do like classic like Dracula or Frankenstein, and those aren't
46:25
Speaker 1: that scary. Some suspenseful stuff, But as far as podcasts go,
46:31
Speaker 1: I've got two that I really like. And one is
46:33
Speaker 1: Limetown and it's kind of suspenseful, and there's definitely some
46:35
Speaker 1: like scary, disturbing stuff in there, but it's more suspenseful
46:38
Speaker 1: than that, and I really enjoyed the journey. The other one,
46:42
Speaker 1: and this I will say, is just like flat up scary.
46:45
Speaker 1: It is true horror. You wouldn't think I would like
46:48
Speaker 1: listening to it, but the execution is really good. It's
46:50
Speaker 1: called The White Fault, and it's like a bunch of
46:53
Speaker 1: people go to a remote area and they encounter like
46:58
Speaker 1: evil supernatural stuff happening as they explore, like the ruins
47:02
Speaker 1: of the place that they're at. And it's like truly terrifying,
47:07
Speaker 1: but it's so well done because they bring in a
47:09
Speaker 1: lot of voice actors from different countries and then they
47:12
Speaker 1: do this you have to listen on good audio system
47:15
Speaker 1: because they will have like the actors speak in their
47:17
Speaker 1: language and then transition to English. But sometimes that overlap
47:22
Speaker 1: makes it a little hard to understand, So if you're
47:24
Speaker 1: listening like with a lot of excess noise around, it
47:26
Speaker 1: might be hard to follow. But I really enjoy it
47:28
Speaker 1: for horror, it is incredibly well done.
47:31
Speaker 2: Awesome that I think that sounds great. I think those
47:34
Speaker 2: are great recommendations. And you know, obviously in some upcoming
47:40
Speaker 2: episodes we will transition into other holiday geeky stuff. Hopefully
47:45
Speaker 2: we'll be able to start talking about geek news and
47:48
Speaker 2: more detail again because they strike will be resolved at
47:52
Speaker 2: some point and I look forward to doing that.
47:56
Speaker 1: Oh and I can actually talk about the other podcast
47:58
Speaker 1: I'm doing. It's called Monster, because it's already on social media.
48:02
Speaker 1: There are a couple of trailers out. It's a lot
48:04
Speaker 1: of fun. It's a very cool story. If you want
48:07
Speaker 1: to keep up to date for when it comes out,
48:09
Speaker 1: because it's not out yet, you can go to the
48:13
Speaker 1: Monster Universe Audio Drama dot substact dot com and register
48:17
Speaker 1: for updates.
48:19
Speaker 2: It's really cool.
48:20
Speaker 1: Everybody involved in it is super super talented. Yeah, so
48:24
Speaker 1: take a listen. All right. So that's it, Jonathan. If
48:28
Speaker 1: people want to contact us, how should they do that?
48:32
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna go across town. You're gonna head on
48:37
Speaker 3: out down that one old state route that no one
48:41
Speaker 3: takes no more since the highway moved in. As you
48:45
Speaker 3: go down that way, you're gonna.
48:47
Speaker 2: Pass yourself a cornfield. At the end of that cornfield,
48:50
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a little dirt road jutting off to
48:53
Speaker 2: the ride. You're gonna take a ride, gonna go down
48:56
Speaker 2: that dirt road aways, and then you're gonna start noticing
48:59
Speaker 2: that you've been on this dirt road for a while,
49:02
Speaker 2: and you could swear that you're just passing the same
49:05
Speaker 2: landscape over and over. It's just that cornfield on your
49:08
Speaker 2: right and an empty little wooded area on the left.
49:11
Speaker 2: But you're pretty sure you've seen that tree before. You're
49:14
Speaker 2: gonna keep on driving because there ain't no way to
49:17
Speaker 2: turn around. Roads too narrow. You're gonna keep on going.
49:21
Speaker 2: And as the sun is going down and your gas
49:23
Speaker 2: gauge is getting low. You're gonna start feeling nervous. And
49:27
Speaker 2: as that light starts to twinkle off into the distance,
49:30
Speaker 2: you'll notice there's another light up ahead. It's an old house.
49:34
Speaker 2: There's one room lit up over at the top of it.
49:38
Speaker 2: Otherwise it's just as dark as the grave. You're gonna
49:41
Speaker 2: pull up out front of that house just as your
49:43
Speaker 2: car is running on that last set of fumes, and
49:47
Speaker 2: somewhat trepidaciously, you're gonna approach that porch and you're gonna
49:53
Speaker 2: climb a couple of steps and hesitate for a moment
49:56
Speaker 2: before you knock on that door. But you don't have
49:58
Speaker 2: many options open to you, do you. So you'll set
50:02
Speaker 2: those knuckles to that door and it'll swing open with
50:05
Speaker 2: a low creak. Then you call out, knowing someone's gotta
50:10
Speaker 2: be home. There's a lot on upstairs, but it ain't
50:12
Speaker 2: no response, So, wondering what you should do, you feel
50:16
Speaker 2: like there's no other choice but to take a step inside.
50:19
Speaker 2: You do so, and you hear a soft sound coming
50:24
Speaker 2: from upstairs. Sounds like it's someone asking you to come
50:27
Speaker 2: on up. Can't be sure, you can't really make it out,
50:30
Speaker 2: So you get on that staircase. You climb it step
50:34
Speaker 2: by step, listening to the sounds of the house settle
50:37
Speaker 2: around you, and smelling the dust in the air, and
50:43
Speaker 2: walking your way through cobwebs and doing that crazy karate
50:46
Speaker 2: thing you do when you step right into a spider's web.
50:50
Speaker 2: Then you go over and you see that there's a
50:52
Speaker 2: door off to your left, and there's some light coming
50:55
Speaker 2: out from underneath, and that right there must be where
50:59
Speaker 2: you heard the voice. You call out again, there ain't
51:02
Speaker 2: no return to your call, so you just kind of
51:06
Speaker 2: walk slowly, and you see that the door is actually
51:09
Speaker 2: slightly open, it's not actually closed all the way too.
51:12
Speaker 2: And as you reach the end, you're gonna put your
51:15
Speaker 2: palm on that door. It's gonna feel so cold against
51:19
Speaker 2: your skin. You're gonna give it a gentle push. It
51:21
Speaker 2: swings noiselessly open, and inside you see a bunch of puppets,
51:27
Speaker 2: and there's also like a clown and a giant spider thing,
51:32
Speaker 2: and there's also like Jack Nicholson for some reason. But
51:36
Speaker 2: in the middle of it it's me and I'm gonna
51:38
Speaker 2: have a hatchet in one hand and a sewing needle
51:41
Speaker 2: in the other. I'm like, yeah, what is that. Come on,
51:43
Speaker 2: I'm busy here, and then you can ask a question.
51:46
Speaker 1: Geez if that is too scary for any of you.
51:49
Speaker 1: If any of your poor hearts can't take it, you
51:52
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51:55
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52:02
Speaker 1: Large Nerdron Collider. If you want to drop us an
52:05
Speaker 1: email instead, you can do that. It is Large Nurdron
52:07
Speaker 1: pod at gmail dot com. And if you need an
52:10
Speaker 1: invite to discord, you can either check our website www
52:14
Speaker 1: dot Large nurderun Colider, which is sorely out of date
52:16
Speaker 1: but has active invites, or you can email us and
52:18
Speaker 1: I'll send you one. We really do love hearing from you,
52:23
Speaker 1: and until next time. I have been Aeriel drowning in
52:26
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