Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Brett Keane Show /w @Lucifer-LeGivorden Witchcraft, Magic Spells, Simulation, Moral illusions
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- 4:21Well, hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett
- 4:24Keane and you are watching listening to the Brett Keane
- 4:27show and I have with me my co-host Lucifer.
- 4:30Oh, so how you been? Oh.
- 4:36Rough rough and sick and past few days.
- 4:39Good evening, everyone. Hello.
- 4:43How are you doing Lucifer? I'm doing I'm surviving.
- 4:48Yeah, you do sound a lot better than you were Friday.
- 4:51Yeah. It's it was rough.
- 4:54It was definitely rough. It was Robert could definitely
- 4:57tell just the conversation last week.
- 4:59It was well Friday. It was pretty insane.
- 5:02Yeah. Well last week we had some funny
- 5:06shit going on and I'm gonna let Brett do his standard intros and
- 5:12whatnot. Then I got a few things that I
- 5:13want to bring up to everybody that you know is not actually
- 5:18cool that happened over the weekend.
- 5:20Oh, no you that's not good. Well, I talked to you earlier
- 5:25about it, right? I showed you the email that I
- 5:28got. I hear you.
- 5:29We've got a a guest that may be coming on here in a little bit.
- 5:33Oh Woman by the name of Robin hopefully should be able to go
- 5:38into the description. Click on the link and come on
- 5:41in. Did you guys have a hard time
- 5:43finding that where to link is? I did put a tutorial video up
- 5:46for everybody. No, I did not actually it was
- 5:49pretty easy to find. Yeah.
- 5:52Sweet sweet you be surprised in the year 2024 how many people
- 5:57are like what's a link man? You know know it's this foreign
- 6:03alien concept. Yeah, well, at least I'm 20.
- 6:07I still know what a link is. Hopefully missing mod will join
- 6:12us as well. I really enjoyed our company
- 6:15last week. I was hoping we could actually
- 6:17talk to her more but our buddy Mark Reed came in and he had a
- 6:21lot of things he wanted to tell us, right.
- 6:25Yeah, yeah, I definitely did. I just got a notification.
- 6:28I guess he just put up the video from last week or something.
- 6:33And he tagged me in it and I was like, oh, what's this song?
- 6:36I'm probably check it out. Later.
- 6:40Oh, no, what's up, Mr. Baller? I had to leave that like that
- 6:46show because he was just killing my brain cells like oh boy.
- 6:50What am I hearing dudes? Like come on, man.
- 6:55Oh, but he seemed like such a sweet young man missing mod and
- 6:59Robin, whatever you want to come in good actually, right?
- 7:04That's I don't know if you noticed Lucifer but I cut down
- 7:08the the size of the intros. I felt like we don't need 10
- 7:13minutes anymore. People know when the shows are
- 7:16by now. So oh, yeah, I would say usually
- 7:20about a minute to minutes, you know three at maximum to get
- 7:24everything done and out of the way.
- 7:27Um is usually pretty good. Did you like your clip at the
- 7:32beginning or yeah, I thought that was kind of cool.
- 7:35I thought that was really interesting.
- 7:37Yeah, thank you for that. Yeah, that's I didn't realize it
- 7:43was tonight. Let me reach out the robin.
- 7:45Well missing mod Robbins already out in the comments.
- 7:48I already here. She just has to click the link
- 7:53and you guys just have to go in click the link.
- 7:56Come on in. But description come on on down
- 8:00folks anyways, so I got some interesting emails concerning
- 8:05last show. I got like two or three
- 8:07different emails from different people who are all really upset
- 8:12at a very particular crybaby that sat for four hours in our
- 8:17comments section. Uh crying because we wouldn't
- 8:22let him into the show. And one of these emails was from
- 8:28an individual that I knew from way back when I have not spoken
- 8:32to him in a great many number of years because he quite honest
- 8:37this is not the kind of person who I would be very comfortable
- 8:41hanging out with on a daily basis.
- 8:43Apparently he knows a certain raging atheist personally and he
- 8:49lives right in their area and this is a Something that I'm
- 8:55going to point out is at no point in time.
- 8:57Do I condone or promote or Ed, you know wish any sort of bad
- 9:05thing to happen to raging atheists because the you know, I
- 9:11got several offers this weekend for people to go and actually
- 9:15hurt him. in person and that is not cool.
- 9:21I don't like the guy but I don't want that to happen to him.
- 9:27I completely understand and as I said in the mail, I don't
- 9:30endorse the harm of anyone out there.
- 9:33It's a lot of assholes in the world and stuff but a lot of
- 9:37excuse but I tried this guy this guy who really got my attention.
- 9:42I knew from way back when and he is a serious as a heart attack
- 9:47if he says he's gonna go do something.
- 9:48He's gonna go do it. And yeah, no. so They're pretty
- 9:57amazing though when you think about it because here we've been
- 10:00doing these shows and all that and we've been attracting a huge
- 10:03audience and all that and a lot of people from our past are
- 10:07watching us and of course future people know that it's really
- 10:11really awesome the way the live streams really speak to people
- 10:14it really is it really is something that I haven't gotten
- 10:19into before and until past few weeks and I've seen a huge big
- 10:24shift in the way that things are going this year for STS because
- 10:30you know you and I have been doing live streams together.
- 10:34A lot more interest, you know a lot of people are you know a lot
- 10:38of our critics of quieted down? They're not totally silent, but
- 10:43they've quieted down. They're not really talking as
- 10:46much. So yeah.
- 10:48Hello. Hello.
- 10:52How you doing there Robin? I hope you've had a good day.
- 10:56Yes, I took my dog to the bed and everything came out good.
- 11:00So yes. Well, Rob, and I seen you as a
- 11:04guest over in missing Maude and we are fans the most amount.
- 11:08She's a sweetheart and I thought some of your story was
- 11:11interesting. I was hoping you'd share a
- 11:14little bit more of it tonight with us and and really happy you
- 11:18showed up and a part of the conversation.
- 11:22Yes. Yes.
- 11:22I saw she she had sent me a message about that and then I
- 11:27saw the others happened the clothes out matters now, so I
- 11:32saw you on so I popped in and Been there.
- 11:36She was too so work that good. Let's see.
- 11:39You mind if we Dive Right In this is what I got.
- 11:43Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was a time where you
- 11:47basically were in the Spells and magic and all that, but then you
- 11:51became atheist. Yeah, yes.
- 11:54Well sort of skeptic first, but I grew up Christian.
- 12:00And I just had a lot of issues with that religion.
- 12:04And yes, I became a I tried different systems ended up
- 12:12working with planetary magic and ceremonial Magic.
- 12:18No, I'm gonna ask you everyone usual question out of all the
- 12:21time. I would suspect you.
- 12:23Did this for some years did any of the magic actually appear to
- 12:27work for you? Oh, yes.
- 12:29Yes. I had.
- 12:31I don't know if you watched the stream with Miss Molly.
- 12:35I had two big doses of confirmation by us.
- 12:41I felt like or whatever. Yes.
- 12:43Yes. I had several that actually seem
- 12:48to work real well. X-magic usually by definition is
- 12:53defined as Supernatural something going outside of the
- 12:57laws of nature. How is it possible to be an
- 13:00atheist? But believe in magic at the same
- 13:02time, I was an atheist about the end.
- 13:06Yes, but you say that you actually experienced real magic
- 13:09as does my friend Lucifer who's my co-host he experienced magic.
- 13:14How can you not believe in the Supernatural if you've
- 13:17experienced personally yourself magic and I've looked at every
- 13:26one of those instances. and and as a skeptic I try to peel away
- 13:33all the bars the confirmation and I don't say that.
- 13:38No, this is real. Really I don't believe it.
- 13:42But and I really can't change my beliefs.
- 13:44I don't know if you know really I don't know if you hold that.
- 13:48Sort of what you believe it's hard to.
- 13:52Belief isn't a choice a lot of times.
- 13:54No, it's definitely not if you believe something you can't help
- 13:59but you believe in it. It's so just so I don't say it's
- 14:03not real and and in fact, I I'm sort of any theist on a lot of
- 14:08things and I don't mess with the Witchcraft Community too much
- 14:12because and I thought that was a great Community myself and But
- 14:19I've looked at each instant that happened.
- 14:23And like a skeptic should I've tried to peel away my boss and
- 14:28tried to decide if there was if this happened because of
- 14:32coincidence or if it happened anyway, and I just cannot
- 14:37attribute it. For certain to the magic and I
- 14:42feel like that continuing to do that.
- 14:44I was just allowing myself. to participate in confirmation bias
- 14:51We you lovely you understand. What why I asked the question
- 14:55that I do though Robin because you as well as my friend Lucifer
- 15:00over there. You've actually experienced the
- 15:02supernatural you seen shit, right and nobody no no.
- 15:11But I've never seen any I mean I have you know, I've been
- 15:15involved in spells. And felt things and I've read
- 15:20tarot and felt connected. But now I've never actually
- 15:24physically seen any sort of ghost or or Spirit or Anything
- 15:33like that. I mean, you know, I mean I Never
- 15:38I've never encant had that kind of encounter.
- 15:41But I did have some spells that. Appeared to work really well.
- 15:48Would you be able to get some examples ma'am?
- 15:52Yes, I'm the first thing that I wasn't actually the first film
- 15:56that I was involved in. I did not even actually I was
- 15:59not the witch that performed the spell.
- 16:01I bought a $700. And you spent $700 on a spell.
- 16:10Yes. Well, my parents right here
- 16:12dollars here major. All right, it was I was in very
- 16:18weak place at that time. But and I had been I had been
- 16:24dating. A man for like four years.
- 16:28He was married. He was he's a lot over and I am
- 16:33and his wife found out about us and he just ghosted me and I
- 16:39don't know. I've never a lot about lost my
- 16:41mind. And so I talked my boss in front
- 16:44of me $700 for the spell which he was like, please don't do
- 16:47this, but I did it anyway. I paid this woman online and she
- 16:53sent me like some things that I had to do, too. like I had to
- 16:58draw a pentagram on and I'm I really knew the only reason why
- 17:02I come into this is I fell asleep in the chair and YouTube
- 17:05was on and a twin flame video came up and that's what started
- 17:11me on the rabbit hole going down through there because I really
- 17:14had never even thought about witchcraft before, you know, I
- 17:18mean, I just didn't do anything and So then I got the spell from
- 17:24her and she told me what I had to do and she told me that you
- 17:28know, I'd wait like 30 days blah you come back like exactly 30
- 17:33days he called and really and and I drive a truck and I had
- 17:39stopped and was sitting in the truck stop for a little while
- 17:43and it was like I knew he's gonna call when when he when
- 17:47when the tape what he actually texted first and when he texted
- 17:50I looked down the phone and I wasn't even surprised. and then
- 17:55he gets so then he came back and it became a shuffle of going
- 17:59back and forth and back and forth and all I could Can't seem
- 18:03to just find my mind was that he was fighting the spell. so I've
- 18:14decided I couldn't 40 more 700 our spells that I had to learn
- 18:17to do this myself. So that's when that's what got
- 18:20me into Witchcraft and I started working on my Witchcraft and I
- 18:25did. Every day a ritual to bring him
- 18:28back. I had prayer beads that were.
- 18:33Blessed from a Buddhist monk or something like that that I
- 18:37ordered from turkey and all this stuff and I did this certain
- 18:42ritual every day for seven months.
- 18:45And all my friends kept saying he's not coming back Robin and I
- 18:48was like, yeah, he will and he did. and he told me when he came
- 18:54back. The hope that the laundry stated
- 18:58gone the stronger the pool was and I was like, that was me.
- 19:02I was spelling you know, are you seeing this person passed away
- 19:06and through the $700 spell they were resurrected.
- 19:10I don't know why. Oh went back to his wife over.
- 19:15I'm sorry. I got a little myth there.
- 19:17He'd been married. He'd been married to her for
- 19:20like he is 71 now and I'm 55. So he 17 years older than me or
- 19:2716 years out of me. so he's probably over me but I mean,
- 19:34yeah, he's just like we were just I don't know we were just
- 19:37perfect for each other and and I know it he had grandkids he had
- 19:42kids. and you know, he's been gone for like three half years
- 19:46now, so and I finally got my mind back, but I did lose my
- 19:51mind for a while over it. I'm not sure why but it did it
- 19:55that I've never been ghosted before.
- 19:57I think that was probably like the most devastating thing that
- 20:02I just couldn't even imagine that you would not tell
- 20:05somebody. Goodbye.
- 20:07You know that you you cared anything about and and then he
- 20:11couldn't though. He kept coming back.
- 20:13He came back through four times. But then that last time he
- 20:16stayed gone so long. That's when I started doing that
- 20:19daily ritual. but it was like it was like I mean pretty much from
- 20:24what he told me. He felt like he the way
- 20:27described it was like the spell was pulling into me.
- 20:31And I also did a great big money spell. um in like December of
- 20:38one year and I did my taxes that year and it was like The last
- 20:44year they let us count the truck driving and take anyway, I got
- 20:4714,000 back on my taxes. like in a month after this fell So, I'm
- 20:56sorry that you had that experience.
- 20:57I hope that something positive came out of it.
- 21:01Did you find somebody or you dating?
- 21:03No, no, and I'm not sorry at all.
- 21:06Know I wouldn't I would go I would not I wouldn't do it a
- 21:10thing different today. You know, I mean, I understand
- 21:13why I went back and you know. I do.
- 21:18I understand why I went back, but I wouldn't I wouldn't change
- 21:21nothing and no I'm not bitter, but no, I don't have nobody.
- 21:25Perfectly, I have an 18 year old daughter.
- 21:29Who is starting College this fall?
- 21:31So that's that's wonderful. Congratulations.
- 21:34Yes. I have a one that working on her
- 21:38Masters, right? She finishes her Masters here
- 21:40and about two or three months in California.
- 21:44So Then they're they're both evolutionary biologists are
- 21:50going to be the she teaches out there in California.
- 21:53And this one's going to be a research I'm sparking research.
- 21:58That's interesting in the beginning the conversation.
- 22:01I I hope you understand. I've been sick lately some
- 22:04half-deaf and one of my ears I'm stuffed.
- 22:07So is my buddy older. He's got some issues as well.
- 22:10But did you say you were antitheist?
- 22:13I don't know if I heard that correctly.
- 22:15That's it. I've been an adult day is
- 22:17lightly just just a lot of it's just a lot of attacks on you
- 22:24know women's rights and things so that's why I've been Well,
- 22:29what can you tell me a little bit about that?
- 22:31Usually when someone when I've had people in the past who said
- 22:35they were anti-theists they were usually very mean to the
- 22:38religious folks in my room all that, but you see like a real
- 22:42sweetheart with a big heart. Thank it.
- 22:45We'll see. I'd say I'm more of an
- 22:47antitheism. Then anti-theist because the
- 22:51theist is the person. So fair enough.
- 22:56Yeah, so I'm but but I'm also a big supporter friend.
- 23:02So freedom of religion is I feel like every human being is born
- 23:08on this planet deserves bodily autonomy.
- 23:11I mean we deserve to have rule over our own body.
- 23:16You know outside of hurting someone else, you know, I mean,
- 23:19but I should be able to decide anything about my own body.
- 23:25Let me ask you this. What do you feel about abortion
- 23:27though? I feel like that that's my body
- 23:30and I feel like that forced birth is slavery.
- 23:35I mean, I I would love to rid the the country for the need for
- 23:41an necessary abortions. I don't particularly like the
- 23:46idea that I've happened to people have been even go through
- 23:49abortion and like The Netherlands that's what it was.
- 23:55All right. What about the Netherlands has
- 23:59the lowest abortion right in the world?
- 24:01Okay, an abortion is legal. And it's also whatever.
- 24:05Thank you. What would you say that?
- 24:09Do what what if there's an alternative?
- 24:11What would you say to that? What's the alternate?
- 24:14birth control First but see that there.
- 24:18Okay not first of all, you're assuming that every woman can
- 24:22take birth control. They can't hormonal birth
- 24:24control and it's just it's not it's not 100.
- 24:29There's different types of birth control.
- 24:31Okay, but not everybody can Plus.
- 24:34Young girls many young girls parents don't will not allow
- 24:38them to get on birth control. They cannot I mean what those
- 24:43State mandated they can't afford.
- 24:45We're gonna State mandate birth control.
- 24:47Why not? I mean, I don't think we should
- 24:50have the statement. I think if we made like I said,
- 24:54what about issuing licenses for parents why I don't understand
- 24:58something though, Robin and Lucifer.
- 25:01Why is it okay to mandate that a young girl be able to get rid of
- 25:05what's in their womb but not take a pill.
- 25:08I don't know how to get rid of it.
- 25:12I mean, we're not gonna mandate her to get rid of that's what
- 25:14I'm trying to you're not let me finish this but here.
- 25:18The Netherlands has the lowest abortion rate in the world.
- 25:22Okay, and abortionately legal so there is a way to eliminate
- 25:27abortion with out. acting to do either one.
- 25:36I mean without forcing anybody do anything.
- 25:38All we have to do is teach comprehensive sex education.
- 25:44Make birth control. Accessible and cheap enough that
- 25:50people can't don't have to pick between that I mean if you take
- 25:54a young girl who is our people who are hungry who are barely
- 25:59feeding themselves. Birth control is just something
- 26:03that's not list. And we don't have it we haven't
- 26:06used to do is have state. State medical assistant and you
- 26:11don't have that very guy or yeah, we do our country is free
- 26:18for everybody with just a little bit of State medical insurance.
- 26:20Yeah, our country is making it to where it's Health Care to
- 26:25allow people to change their genders.
- 26:27It seems to me that if this is such an important priority then
- 26:31people should be able to be given the pills.
- 26:34It seems in Kentucky. We don't have I don't have free
- 26:38healthcare. I don't know.
- 26:41I mean I have I support me and my daughter.
- 26:45Myself, but you have health care right?
- 26:48You have someone I don't I don't have free healthcare.
- 26:51No, he's not from Obamacare. We got Obamacare was just
- 26:57terrible job. I work but I don't make enough
- 27:00money to buy healthcare because in my boss doesn't offer it.
- 27:03I work for a small trucking company and we you know, he
- 27:07doesn't he has like 12 employees that drive and so it would cost
- 27:11him like a fortune to buy health care and he won't he just pays
- 27:15this, you know, he he doesn't pay us that much better either,
- 27:19but he won't pay Healthcare. so all I can do the only thing I
- 27:25can do is is buy from Obamacare. My daughter has it right now
- 27:30because her because of her dad because he has to pay like hers
- 27:36and everything. So that isn't cover me but
- 27:40there's a lot of there's a lot of uncut and like in here
- 27:44there's a lot of uncovered people in Kentucky.
- 27:46Like we just kicked like 60,000 people off of Medicare like last
- 27:52week in Kentucky. And they had just down there
- 27:57since the pandemic starter. They wouldn't have been there at
- 28:00all anyway. so somebody out in the comments named skyworks says
- 28:08something interesting. They said these men wanted
- 28:10dictate what women are allowed to do see this strange to me
- 28:14because you said just a moment ago yourself Rob and that every
- 28:18human being should have their own autonomy.
- 28:20We should be able to do what we want to as long as we're not
- 28:23hurting people and if some people are on one side are
- 28:27expressing the opinion that they would that they value life no
- 28:31matter how small or little of experiences it's had.
- 28:35Then what's the problem? What's the issue with the Man
- 28:37simply stating his opinion? No.
- 28:41I believe men have a right but value in life Let's value the
- 28:50life. We have so many lives that we
- 28:53don't value that. It's hard to convince me that we
- 28:58value life. We don't value the life of Women
- 29:04first of all, I mean there was a woman in Tech.
- 29:06There's been you know, there's there was a 10 year old girl in
- 29:09Ohio who got right? And they wouldn't let her get an
- 29:13abortion. She was 10 years old.
- 29:15I mean should a 10 year old be giving birth?
- 29:19To a rapist baby. Now, this is one of those
- 29:23situations. I mean, I don't know I would say
- 29:25physically that's a medical necessity right there exactly,
- 29:28but they wouldn't allow it. They don't know yet to be taking
- 29:33you. there they wouldn't let her do anything and then they
- 29:40actually tried Ohio because she lived in Ohio.
- 29:44She went to Indiana and Indiana's triggered law had not
- 29:47went in effect yet. She actually the actually in
- 29:52Ohio tried to like like criminalized the doctor that
- 29:57performed it in Indiana and Texas.
- 29:59I mean, maybe maybe I'm because I'm a woman I'm more.
- 30:04In the circle of these these situations then most people are
- 30:09and so maybe this is not to me. It seemed like everybody already
- 30:13know what's going on. I mean Texas, they're
- 30:16criminalizing women who are there like topic pregnancy and
- 30:22stuff and and having like they've got feel normally for
- 30:25the baby is our don't have school and stuff and they're
- 30:28they're saying killing these women they have to have these
- 30:31babies and they're these women are having to either leave this
- 30:34day. Or deliver these babies that
- 30:36will not even be born alive when they're born.
- 30:39And now here's my question. What's this?
- 30:44What's the statistics on this? What are the rates of these
- 30:48situations that you're talking about?
- 30:51I've got my upstairs. That's all upstairs.
- 30:53I didn't I thought we'd be talking outside and oh, well,
- 30:58okay the difference that I mean we go from all different
- 31:01subjects. I'm more considering that
- 31:03special in Satanism. There's a group called The
- 31:07Satanic Temple that I just Yeah, they like to push a lot of
- 31:13topics that are have nothing to do with real satanisms.
- 31:16Yeah, they're they're atheists. There you are humanists.
- 31:23Yes. May I know like more wrong one
- 31:29aren't always is a satanic temple of bam Like that's wild
- 31:37abortion was legalized in 1973 was because of the women who are
- 31:42dying. From having illegal abortions
- 31:47because women will have abortions women will have
- 31:51abortions that's you will not stop abortion unless you do
- 31:56something on the other side of it like I was talking about the
- 31:59comprehensive. comprehensive sex education and and the access to
- 32:07birth control and empowering women.
- 32:10So to worry that Morgan go to college because the girls that
- 32:15go girls that go higher education actually are less
- 32:19likely teenage pregnancy. And you on that most the girls
- 32:25that I know that I've gone and college I've gotten pregnant
- 32:28numerous times and I saw to get abortions rather than simply
- 32:33using birth control and they are okay.
- 32:35Are you talking about poor girls poor?
- 32:37No, I'm talking about perfectly well-funded individuals, Mommy.
- 32:42I don't know what okay. These are just your average
- 32:47everyday girl and you like I mean like 90% of them.
- 32:52Yeah now that's not right here ending because in China during
- 32:58the one policy, there's Force abortion during the one child
- 33:02policy. So you have no choice but to get
- 33:05it because of the one that America.
- 33:08It could possibly happen is that I don't do that anymore either
- 33:11because they were abortion, right?
- 33:14All right, folks folks. Relax.
- 33:16All right. I have a question for you Robin
- 33:20and then we'll then we'll move back into Witchcraft and spells
- 33:24and all that which obviously is originally which came in for
- 33:27when does a human being become inherently valuable where people
- 33:32should actually feel obligated to care.
- 33:35Well, I mean, I think. I'm for Roe versus Wade had good
- 33:41guidelines. Roe versus Wade went to
- 33:44viability. Here's not the way I look at
- 33:46abortion. Okay until until fetus is
- 33:51viable. If I remove it from my uterus.
- 33:55I don't have to kill it. It will die.
- 33:58Naturally it will die because it has to be it has to have a
- 34:04uterus to live in a wound So until this Bible.
- 34:10And that's what an abortion is. Actually anything after
- 34:13viability is because it's called technically a delivery not an
- 34:17abortion. Okay, so so right if I have an
- 34:21abortion Which is up to viability?
- 34:25I remove a non-viable fee is from my uterus that fee.
- 34:29I do not have to kill that fetus.
- 34:31It will die. Naturally you're basically
- 34:34saying that depends on you and if it didn't have you then it
- 34:38wouldn't survive. If it didn't it has to have a
- 34:41uterus, which actually we had the technology probably in a few
- 34:45years to to make artificial worms.
- 34:49And so we wouldn't even have to let the pieces die.
- 34:52If we report if a woman chosen abortion and I feel like that up
- 34:56until that viability moment. A woman has a right to have a an
- 35:02abortion for whatever reason she wants for whatever reason she
- 35:07wants now. I do believe that if she comes
- 35:09in there after one, I think she should be educated at the first
- 35:14one on preventative measures. And I think that you know, I
- 35:20mean, I think that we need to start stressing more birth
- 35:23control. Yes.
- 35:23We don't our or something to stop the pregnancies.
- 35:26Well Robin are there I'd ask you a question a moment ago.
- 35:29At what point in time does a human being become inheritably
- 35:34inherently valuable to the point where we should feel obligated
- 35:39to be concerned about it. Well, I mean we should be
- 35:42concerned about it anytime but up until bobility.
- 35:46I don't think that a fetus has any any sort of rights now I and
- 35:53this is not a typical most. I'm not I'm not talking about
- 35:57I'm not talking about rights ma'am.
- 35:59What I'm talking about is when does a person become inherently
- 36:03valuable? When does it become a living
- 36:06entity? Okay.
- 36:07Well not just that but when does it actually matter?
- 36:11I don't know that any of us are inherently valuable.
- 36:16I think my children are inherently valuable.
- 36:18I think humans. I mean, I'm a human so I think
- 36:22humans are inherently valuable. But as far as like as some
- 36:27objective values that we have to the universe, I don't believe
- 36:31that I don't believe any of us have any of it and we value
- 36:35other humans because we are humans and I value my children
- 36:39more than other people's children, even though I value
- 36:42other people's children. There's a there's a degree, you
- 36:46know, there's a there's a closer can or whatever you've got your
- 36:49own little circle and you widen out as you go and empathy
- 36:53continues, but you're bit you're strong as ties are gonna be to
- 36:57your inner circle people and those are the ones but I believe
- 37:00that I believe that we are to start trying to.
- 37:05Do something and most portion promise don't believe this.
- 37:10At viability, I believe we are at and that's where role versus
- 37:14Wade was it was at the ability one star ability reached you
- 37:19reached our ability. The restrictions on abortions
- 37:22came down to medical decisions. Under Roe versus Wade.
- 37:26I mean they thought they fought Roe versus white out very well
- 37:31when they wrote it and it should have been left alone because it
- 37:35saved women's lives and it did not allow it the all these late
- 37:42term abortions. There's not even such a thing.
- 37:44It's a like turning abortion because the abortion is like up
- 37:47to my ability. the only women who are having deliveries are
- 37:53delivering babies. Um that late in their, you know,
- 37:59carrying one are ones that are have something wrong with them
- 38:01or the mother's health. And right now like the states
- 38:06the red States especially like Kentucky where I live.
- 38:08We have no exception for the mother's life.
- 38:14All right. So Robin one of the main reasons
- 38:16why I ask you the question is because you did say your skeptic
- 38:21which is pretty close to you know, like a humanist or atheist
- 38:25or something like this. You don't believe that humans
- 38:28are inherently valuable. So what makes the difference
- 38:32between a human baby inside of a womb over an adult we're nothing
- 38:37more than a collection of cells a bunch of chemistry just put
- 38:41together. So, why does it matter if
- 38:44anybody cares about the mother a baby or anybody for that matter?
- 38:47Well, I mean, I'm a human do don't think they have any value
- 38:55to the universe like there's no inherent. you're you know, I
- 39:01mean like there's no just something outside of us of our
- 39:06of us as humans. You always have value all humans
- 39:11have value. Or just the ones that you have
- 39:14the opinion that our valuable no, I think oh, I mean, I think
- 39:17all humans should have that. I think we all if you're born
- 39:22you should have You should have the freedom of thought you
- 39:27should have bodily autonomy, and you should be able to be with
- 39:30who you love and I believe that we all deserve to be safe.
- 39:34And and and I think we should try to eliminate suffering.
- 39:39Across the entire population of humans.
- 39:43I mean that I myself I'm for everybody having health care and
- 39:49I would gladly pay more taxes. So everybody could have health
- 39:53care because I would rather everybody in the United States
- 39:57suffering was really diminished domain and me give up something
- 40:03for it. But you know. when are like when
- 40:11are we when are right now? We allow in my Masti.
- 40:17We allow 18 year old kids to go by handguns.
- 40:21Well, we are open carry we allow okay, so we're on the lives
- 40:27gonna be important enough for us to start protecting them. from
- 40:32that I mean if we can infringe upon women and force women to
- 40:38give birth to children that they do not want and cannot afford
- 40:43then I don't see any reason why we can't prevent people from
- 40:47buying guns just happens. Like I mean, I actually own
- 40:51guns. I'm not anti-second Amendment.
- 40:54But I don't think every 18 year old kid that lives that this guy
- 40:58high school last week should be able to go buy one.
- 41:01I don't like to ask you that's an interesting point if the
- 41:05government were to return on its citizens, like what has happened
- 41:08historically many many times. What are the citizens supposed
- 41:13to do against a government and its military without any weapons
- 41:17and our weapons were being good against United States Army.
- 41:20Will it be better than using a broomstick or Mom?
- 41:24I don't know that we would never use anything.
- 41:25I could just drop a bomb. I mean they could just they
- 41:28wouldn't even need a focus like but I don't I don't feel that
- 41:33you don't think that the individual soldiers that are
- 41:36part of that military would be I don't know to dropping a bomb on
- 41:41their own people. I don't think I don't fear my
- 41:44own government. I don't I don't trust my own
- 41:47government necessarily, but I don't fear them except for like
- 41:50right now with women, you know. Taking my bot.
- 41:54My mean I'm not worried about me.
- 41:55I'm out childbearing age, but I have two daughters.
- 41:58I have one dollar ones in California.
- 42:01She's safe right now. But this one this one if she was
- 42:05to get pregnant. And have something that that
- 42:09they told me that if this baby was gonna kill her in the state
- 42:12of Kentucky. They would let her die before
- 42:14they would let us abort that baby.
- 42:16And so they were both die. That's how stupid these laws.
- 42:22Are you talking about? The guns thing and I appreciate
- 42:26that there's a lot of passion and the abortion thing but you
- 42:29do realize that a dictators like a Stalin who by the way happened
- 42:35to be an atheist. He removed guns from his country
- 42:38and his citizens and then they were left absolutely
- 42:42defenseless. And really, well.
- 42:44Actually, I believe according to Wikipedia about 50 million
- 42:48people died because of this Ryan and they could do nothing
- 42:52against them because they had no weapons to deal with this tire
- 42:55and he did you know that yes, I know all about that you do you
- 42:59think Stalin had would have still done that heavy being a
- 43:04Buddhist. I don't know.
- 43:07All I know is that I know there's no telling I mean you
- 43:12could say you could say a Christian leader.
- 43:14You could say a Satanist lady. You know him off.
- 43:17Anybody. The point is is a Citizens
- 43:19couldn't fight back because they didn't have weapons the
- 43:22military. Oh But there is a point what's
- 43:25the point 50 million people died?
- 43:27I thought we were valuable. He's just stolen.
- 43:30I'm not for taking away guns. I own guns.
- 43:34I live in Kentucky. I'm a good person.
- 43:37Um, Stalin did not kill those people in the name of atheism.
- 43:43Stalin was a psychopath. Who would have been cycle
- 43:49whether he actually because he was paranoid that people will
- 43:53revolt against the best way yet a secret police and he killed
- 43:56other generals because let's face it.
- 44:00He's a very hardcore communist every time and communism and
- 44:05Atheism are not the same. Well, you are the Communist
- 44:11party though. I know but that's just a rule.
- 44:15They made you don't have to be a common to you.
- 44:17That's very happy. And you realize you why a lot of
- 44:21people do the association almost every atheist dictator was
- 44:25involved in a lot of the same things.
- 44:27The Tyranny The Killing communism socialism, it always
- 44:31comes down to that. There's always that connection
- 44:34every time something like this happened.
- 44:37Well, I mean, I also like to interject here really quickly.
- 44:40You said that she lived in Kentucky?
- 44:42Am I correct? Yeah, okay, so I went ahead and
- 44:45I pulled up Kentucky's abortion ban.
- 44:49Oh lost their restrictions Kentucky does not restrict
- 44:53abortions completely. However, it is very heavily
- 44:57restricted. So it's almost completely but
- 45:01there are exceptions. Now, you said that if your
- 45:04daughter gets pregnant and allow, um, actually there is
- 45:10exemptions. There isn't allowance.
- 45:12They don't the people that have applied for them and tried to
- 45:16get them. They don't allow they don't give
- 45:18the redemptions you have to go through the state legislature to
- 45:21get things exemption and they won't grant them.
- 45:25Well, you have any of you know, can you show that because the
- 45:31thing it says to save a pregnant person's life.
- 45:34Yeah, they will allow. To prevent serious risk to the
- 45:38pregnant person's physical health.
- 45:39I was proof. So you I'm gonna throw this link
- 45:44into the chat. But if you don't believe me,
- 45:48that's fine. I don't I mean I'm not worried
- 45:51about that Robin. I I hope you realize that we're
- 45:53we are some good folks and we're not trying to hate on you
- 45:57anything like that. I know we should conversation
- 45:59abortion is a passionate topic. I understand I understand and
- 46:06right, you know, I just wanted you to know that we do value you
- 46:11being here and we're enjoying our discussion with you.
- 46:14I'm sorry, if some of the stuff we say may I hate to use the
- 46:18word like trigger, but I don't want to anger.
- 46:20Yeah, I'm happy you're here. I just want you to know that
- 46:24that's fine and I'll try to this is just really the topic with me
- 46:30because I you know. Me and my daughters became
- 46:35second class citizens. You know, there's no law.
- 46:42Other than you break into social contract of going to jail.
- 46:46Like if you if you go to law if you if you you know, if you
- 46:49break a law that you know was there and you break the social
- 46:52contract and you get put in prison.
- 46:55Okay, they will restrict your model economy. but there is no
- 47:00no body. There's no law in the United
- 47:04States where someone has to allow their body to be used to
- 47:07keep another person alive. You aren't even in my own child.
- 47:12Once it's born. I'm not required to donate
- 47:15organs and I'm not required to donate blood to that child.
- 47:18Even if that child will die because I refuse to donate my
- 47:24organs are but to that child. You mean now if I keep that
- 47:29child like breastfeeding it? Yes.
- 47:31I'm required to because if I keep it after birth.
- 47:34I'm agreeing to take care of it. Okay, but as far as like giving
- 47:38my body parts to it, I'm not required to and the father and
- 47:43the males not ever required to do that at any time either.
- 47:47It's the only time that we are requiring of people is a
- 47:52pregnant woman Okay, so We are giving special rights to fetuses
- 47:58that that fetus will no longer have after birth.
- 48:03And nobody else has there's not another person in the United
- 48:06States that has arthrites. And there is no but there that
- 48:10that child will lose the rights as soon as born.
- 48:13A corpse you have to sign permission.
- 48:17To donate organs from a corpse or even your own family cannot
- 48:22donate your organs once you die. You they will not and I mean so
- 48:27so corpses have more right more bodily autonomy than women in
- 48:32red States right now. We got somebody out here.
- 48:35Hamilton is repeating what Skyrocket said, I see three guys
- 48:39telling a woman what she can do with their body asinine.
- 48:43Well, the thing is is although we're expressing our opinion.
- 48:46I don't know about loser. I'll speak for myself, but I'm
- 48:50not gonna stand outside of the abortion clinics and yell at
- 48:53people but if you want my opinion or my opinion is willing
- 48:57to be given I'm gonna say that I would appreciate try another
- 49:01options and Alternatives as opposed to full-on termination
- 49:05because that's a permanent solution, isn't it?
- 49:07That's not a absolutely, you know, I'm gonna sit here and say
- 49:13Robin has every right to heal the way that she doesn't have to
- 49:17agree with me. We are in America.
- 49:19She has those rights those opinions.
- 49:21That's what this country beautiful good.
- 49:25Yes, and I'm with you we should we should reduce the we should
- 49:29try to reduce abortions. Yeah, I mean abortion is a
- 49:33tragedy no matter what my big thing is is I don't like it when
- 49:37women sit there and a they could try to cut the father out of
- 49:41this the whole decision and be they try to use abortion as a
- 49:46form of Earth control when they had plenty of other options on
- 49:50the beforehand. and it's also in my opinion up to the man himself
- 49:56to also Aid the woman in uh, making sure that abortion is
- 50:02never necessary, you know, every man carries one of these little
- 50:05things called a wallet with them and even though I'm with you
- 50:10know, a woman right now, I keep a little something or another in
- 50:14my wallet at all times just Just in case I just know what it is.
- 50:20Yeah, okay. It gets really sticky and man.
- 50:27I mean, I understand what you're saying about the man I mean, but
- 50:32it just the bodily economy to me is the most important thing. to
- 50:38meet its most important thing and once that it once that child
- 50:42is is you know, I'm kind of sensitive towards the viability
- 50:47thing, but if we go with birth Once that child is born.
- 50:51I believe that child has probably a tiny.
- 50:54I believe and I you know, I just I just believe that there's just
- 51:01right that we already we all have to allow everybody have.
- 51:07Robin you mind if I ask you a question because I mean
- 51:10obviously it's important to you you say that you have a daughter
- 51:13who's being real successful and I said congratulations about
- 51:17that earlier. Let's say she does meet a man
- 51:19that she thinks is good and decent and she ends up getting
- 51:22pregnant with a guy gets in some kind of car accident.
- 51:26He dies and she still is carrying this baby, but it's
- 51:29still early enough to where she could get an abortion.
- 51:32Would you suggest that or would you tell her they would you
- 51:36recommend her get an abortion or would you tell her to go through
- 51:39with it? Especially if she even feels as
- 51:42though she wants to I wouldn't tell her to do anything I would.
- 51:47I would support her. I would be there for her.
- 51:53I would try to talk to her to make sure that she and you know
- 51:57understands whatever her decision is and whichever
- 52:01decision she made that would be the decision that she made and I
- 52:05was support her for the rest of her life for making it.
- 52:08It's her body. It's not mine.
- 52:10And I I actually my daughter lives in California right now is
- 52:14actually made a man and is getting ready to try to get
- 52:19pregnant, you know, because she's finishing her master's.
- 52:23And we're not she's she's not even sure that she can probably
- 52:27get pregnant because she's had like some some surgeries like on
- 52:32you know, I'm around her uterus and stuff.
- 52:36So I mean, we may not even be able to have if she may not even
- 52:40get Bill get pregnant. Would you like to be able to
- 52:44have a grandchild one day? Yes.
- 52:46Yes, even I would be in California and I this don't
- 52:49think I can move all the way out there came for it, but But yes,
- 52:54I would and and I love babies. I mean I do not hate babies.
- 52:58I love babies. I wish my babies were still
- 53:01babies. Actually, that was the best time
- 53:04that I ever had. I'm even though they were 13
- 53:06years apart. So I guess they probably
- 53:07couldn't both be babies the same time but You know Robin you you
- 53:14mentioned these horrible cases of rape and all that and I was
- 53:18definitely for the longest time there were points where I said
- 53:23if this happens to a woman then then this must equal there has
- 53:28to be an abortion and all that but I ended up meeting this
- 53:32really friendly woman this older woman over on Facebook and I got
- 53:36to talk into her as she's showing these pictures of her
- 53:39daughter and you know happy she is and all this and I said,
- 53:42she's beautiful how's her father feel about it?
- 53:45Well, she ended up basically she made it public.
- 53:49So this isn't some secret but she apparently was right and
- 53:53decide to keep the child. But according to her this child
- 53:56was the greatest miracle that she could ever have.
- 54:00That's right. I know some women like that and
- 54:03that's why I said I don't support.
- 54:06I don't support saying oh this tenure this this child this
- 54:09person got right we should make her having abortion.
- 54:12I believe that that is her body. And if she wants to have that
- 54:17baby then I believe we are the supporter and everything.
- 54:20I mean, I believe we are support and and if and we don't support
- 54:26mothers though, we don't we were right now the United States is
- 54:31forcing women to have birth give birth in law states, but they're
- 54:36not supporting after that. They oh, you know, you think
- 54:39that oh, yeah, they draw the the government check or whatever.
- 54:42Okay, that's you know, I mean, that's that's they don't draw
- 54:46enough to to live very good and they live in they they get some
- 54:50kind of like low rent housing. They can't afford to work
- 54:53because they can't afford daycare and the child grows up
- 54:57in poverty and so in any area where abortion is control or
- 55:05restricted Will will see an increase in poverty among women
- 55:10and children. That's why robin are here me and
- 55:13my brother and sister. We actually lived through
- 55:15exactly what you just explained. My mother was single my father
- 55:20left when I was 13 and my little brother and sister and I lived
- 55:24through that kind of deal got so bad we ended up in foster care
- 55:27because she could not afford things.
- 55:30So yeah, I understand I fully understand that but even being
- 55:34poor and even live in that hard life and everything.
- 55:37I'm happy that I'm alive today and you are children.
- 55:40Well, thank you. I appreciate that Robin if we
- 55:44are going forward if you mean but women if there was more
- 55:48support, Women might not always choose the abortion.
- 55:54You mean it and and here's a another statistic which I can go
- 55:59upstairs and get my books if you don't don't.
- 56:03Believe what I'm saying, but in 1973 when Roe versus Wade.
- 56:09Was like went through the crime rate. fell enormously I mean it
- 56:15was a massive drop in crime. And just like like five years
- 56:23later, you know, I mean by the time these children that were
- 56:26being forced to have children by the time those children were
- 56:30going up this we saw a decline in and we also saw a decline in
- 56:34poverty among women and children and now it's going to increase
- 56:39again. It's gonna go back up because we
- 56:42do not live in a society. We live in a society right now
- 56:46that wants to mandate laws over people's lives, but doesn't want
- 56:52to do anything about the consequences of the laws that
- 56:56they're enacting. We do not worry.
- 56:59I don't know if you ever listened.
- 57:00I don't know if you ever listen to the Liberals like Chuck
- 57:03Schumer or whatever, but he recently said on the news that I
- 57:08one of the reasons why it's so good to have all these migrants
- 57:12come to the borders because Americans aren't producing
- 57:14enough children anymore. They're even saying that in
- 57:18North Korea. There's not a lot of children
- 57:20that are filling up population markers.
- 57:23I mean, I work in a very industry and there are no
- 57:26Americans trying to get a job milking cows.
- 57:29I promise you. Why here would you know, I'm
- 57:33talking about the baby thing though the child thing if you
- 57:36want to though because I see a lot of people out here
- 57:39especially missing mod. She says, oh Brad, it's three
- 57:42against one on this abortion issue.
- 57:44Can you guys Know I I don't always try to attack her
- 57:50anything. It's oh no.
- 57:51Yeah, she's got good. So yeah you forcing anything on
- 58:00her. I think people out there who are
- 58:02I will say I will say this point go ahead.
- 58:06Um from the Satanic point of view.
- 58:09Now satanists going all the way back to Anton LaVey have always
- 58:13been more in line with mandatory or mandatory. abortion
- 58:21restrictions with mandatory birth control We we are usually
- 58:27of the opinion that if you're supposed to have a license to
- 58:32drive a thousand pound vehicle around the streets that can
- 58:37crush a person if you need license to carry a firearm if
- 58:42you license to do almost everything in America, why are
- 58:48not we do here in South Carolina?
- 58:52Not Kentucky, we don't. I can 18 my daughter right now
- 58:5618 years old could go by handgun or a rifle but there's no
- 59:00federal without a federal permit.
- 59:03Nothing. She hasn't tested.
- 59:05She has had nothing her ID, and she has no waiting period he's
- 59:09still going through background check.
- 59:11She has no red flag law. She has nothing and she can open
- 59:14carry it down the street immersion.
- 59:17That's right. I actually have a pagan friend
- 59:19from Kentucky that hangs out with me from time time Elton and
- 59:24he's got a he's got a good amount of guns.
- 59:26I'm like my goodness. I'm about people having their
- 59:29weapons. But yeah, he has enough to make
- 59:32Rambo blush. Okay.
- 59:34Well, he's in a lot of things very many friends.
- 59:40In a lot of States you still need to have a firearms license
- 59:43a permit. A lot of people are smarter than
- 59:47Kentucky, you know. Why is it that being apparent?
- 59:54Does not require a license? We look at so many parents out
- 59:59there who are just garbage human beings.
- 1:00:03I mean people out there who do some really shit things to
- 1:00:09children. Why is it that age almost?
- 1:00:12They don't need a license to be a parent?
- 1:00:16But you can but you are required to have a license to have a gun.
- 1:00:20You're required to have a license to drive a car, you
- 1:00:24know, and you're required to have a license to.
- 1:00:29Excuse me. He hasn't been feeling good.
- 1:00:34I know I remember that. I agree.
- 1:00:37About the parents. I don't think that just throwing
- 1:00:41a license requirement on it though is going to change that
- 1:00:45situation. I believe it's gonna take a
- 1:00:47whole lot. different social reform and and my apologies, you
- 1:00:56know to get us to to to do to address those situations.
- 1:01:02I don't think there's a quick fix like a license.
- 1:01:06That will solve parenting issues.
- 1:01:08What do you say this? Oh, well, thank you.
- 1:01:12What do you say we take it back into the magic and Supernatural
- 1:01:18for a little bit. Oh, yeah just for a little bit
- 1:01:21and then we can get back into the suit kind of take a break
- 1:01:24from some of that. Well, that's not I'm Job brought
- 1:01:28it up. I mean I actually you know, I
- 1:01:31thought I mean there's a whole lot of stuff I thought about on
- 1:01:34this on the abortion thing. So All right.
- 1:01:38Well, we'll continue to cover it just taking a break from that
- 1:01:41topic for a little bit and getting back and what what you
- 1:01:45were getting into. So how young were you when you
- 1:01:48started getting the magic and you also said you were a former
- 1:01:50Christian before that tell me a little bit about the transition
- 1:01:53what got you into that? And what was like the first
- 1:01:56spell that you did that you felt like wow, there's something to
- 1:02:00this. Christian my whole family
- 1:02:05attends a church. Probably about two miles from
- 1:02:08here. my whole family my grant and of course my grandparents
- 1:02:12were alive into but All my aunts they're all my cousins.
- 1:02:17It's it's a Missionary Baptist Church.
- 1:02:21You know, it's one of those. shouting around and carry on and
- 1:02:26that's what I grew up in and As I got older, I just got kind of
- 1:02:33you know away from that and my oldest daughter.
- 1:02:36I took her to church a lot. and she was young and but then me
- 1:02:42and her dad got divorce and I just got away from church and
- 1:02:45but I always had issues with church.
- 1:02:47I always had issues with I first thought I never could I never
- 1:02:52had a belief in hell. My mom is a devout Christian,
- 1:02:56but she is not. She never assumed that any of us
- 1:03:00were going to hell so there was no reason to preach hell to
- 1:03:04this. So I never had any required a
- 1:03:07fear of hell. In fact, I never had a belief in
- 1:03:10it. I mean, I always looked at it is
- 1:03:12if this God exists that you're talking about he did not create
- 1:03:16hell. I mean, you know, it only makes
- 1:03:18sense to me so I could I just never had that belief and but as
- 1:03:24I got older the existence of evil and and suffering in the
- 1:03:29world became just A lot of cognitive dissonance on religion
- 1:03:34terrain it just didn't it did the answers that I would get
- 1:03:38when I was asked the questions just didn't satisfy me, you know
- 1:03:41Free Will. Okay, but free will doesn't
- 1:03:43cover natural disasters and and those kids are starving in
- 1:03:49Africa. They don't have nothing to do
- 1:03:50their free will you know, I mean it so where does that go?
- 1:03:53Who's responsible for that suffering?
- 1:03:56I understand that this guy next door has the free will to come
- 1:04:00over here and murder me. but what about all the people who
- 1:04:04are not suffering because if somebody else is free will and
- 1:04:08so I had a lot of cognitive distance for that.
- 1:04:11So I just finally just stay away from it.
- 1:04:13And is it possible for the world to suck and there be a asshole
- 1:04:19God out there as opposed to no God at all.
- 1:04:21Yes, probably so and I never did really I never did really really
- 1:04:27even think about they're not being a god.
- 1:04:30In my mind that whole time I left I was like if there's a God
- 1:04:34he can just you know that I was gave him the finger a lot.
- 1:04:37And so but then like I said them that spell where I did and of
- 1:04:44course that woman did spell but I she had me do it too.
- 1:04:47She had me draw a pinnacle on a piece of paper and take some
- 1:04:51flower rose petals and some salt and candles and I had to sit out
- 1:04:56there in front of the Pinnacle. How him coming back?
- 1:05:06sure loose for nose visualized visualization is very hard for a
- 1:05:12very lot lengthy. standard mile time is a lot of practice to
- 1:05:17your mind do that but so and that like I said, he came back
- 1:05:22like almost to the day that he should have so Yeah, so I mean,
- 1:05:27I really I was flew into magic then I have I still have all my
- 1:05:32my room still if you walked in my room right now.
- 1:05:35He was still you would say she's a witch.
- 1:05:37I mean, I love this steady. I have herbs.
- 1:05:42I have so many herbs. Oh my gosh, I have every other
- 1:05:46there's definitely a unique aesthetic about the whole thing.
- 1:05:49Yes, I have room. I have all the witchy herbs.
- 1:05:53I have like two big glass jars those great big glass jars.
- 1:05:59And I have two two of them full of just like little bags of
- 1:06:03herbs of every kind of her. I mean just every for every
- 1:06:06intention you can imagine I have roots and salts and water.
- 1:06:13I collected water I even like was in New Orleans one time and
- 1:06:17like waiting down into a little swampy like little water, you
- 1:06:23know little pedal and got me some and it was like after
- 1:06:26Hurricane because I took water there.
- 1:06:30And I got down in this little puddle and got this hurricane
- 1:06:32water out. Because that would be good for
- 1:06:35like cursing or something, you know.
- 1:06:38Hurricane water. So so the spell that you were
- 1:06:42attempting to do on this guy. It's I don't know if you see the
- 1:06:46irony in this but You were saying earlier that you don't
- 1:06:50like the idea of God claiming that there's free will but the
- 1:06:54spell that you wanted to do would actually take away the
- 1:06:58Free Will would it not? Yes, and and I had a lot of
- 1:07:03cognitive Edition. And I think more I wanted him
- 1:07:09not necessarily to come back except that he owed me and he
- 1:07:12owed me a goodbye. He owed me apology and I was out
- 1:07:15kind of out of my I was kind of mentally not very stable at that
- 1:07:20moment. Okay, when I did when I paid
- 1:07:22$700 for this fell um It was hard.
- 1:07:26I mean it was like I went. I'd be trade my own days to go
- 1:07:33after what I wanted at that time.
- 1:07:35Because that's how painful it was to live on this side of it.
- 1:07:41You know, I mean, I don't and that sounds ridiculous.
- 1:07:44I never thought I would know most not ridiculous at all.
- 1:07:47You were in love and just wanted somebody to be in your life.
- 1:07:50That's not desperation. That's just you.
- 1:07:55Well, I mean, yeah, I loved him but I mean now that I still
- 1:08:00learning and now I'll let him and I leave him alone.
- 1:08:04That makes sense. And it's a whole lot better.
- 1:08:07It's a lot more healthy love the boy was trying to get back but I
- 1:08:15just I at that time I just I overrode my own values to get
- 1:08:19what I want what I wanted. That's all I can say about that.
- 1:08:23and I guess surely probably most of us have been at least once or
- 1:08:27twice but and I thought it did you know and And I knew that and
- 1:08:35I told him I even told him I feel bad enough.
- 1:08:37I told him that I was doing the Spells. and you know, he was
- 1:08:44kind of icky about it at first but He you know.
- 1:08:50When he left the last time last time I talked to him.
- 1:08:53He said are you gonna do a spell on me?
- 1:08:57And I said no, I'm done spilling on you.
- 1:09:00I can't I can't like I can't I mean I can't deal with this back
- 1:09:04and forth back and forth anymore.
- 1:09:05I've got so you got into the oh this was just this was just like
- 1:09:11he's been gone for years right now.
- 1:09:14And we were together like six. We were together.
- 1:09:17We were I mean we were together. He never went home.
- 1:09:19He was a truck driver. He hauled cows.
- 1:09:23And I hauled milk and we ran a pretty we ran up through
- 1:09:28Minnesota and Iowa and we ran like the same road all the time.
- 1:09:32You just hold were you got into practicing Vehicles?
- 1:09:38Yeah, 49 48. Have you?
- 1:09:47no, it was just like He's been gone for years and I was doing
- 1:09:53it for like two years. So like six years ago is when I
- 1:09:57started to Witchcraft, okay? What would you what would you
- 1:10:01say to? Oh, sorry, what would you say to
- 1:10:03this if tomorrow you were out shopping or something and just a
- 1:10:08really attractive older man walked up the and he seemed like
- 1:10:12he was Mr. Right and every type of way and he wants to be with
- 1:10:17you but there's one little issue you find out that he's a
- 1:10:22Christian. What would you do with that?
- 1:10:24Even though he wants to be completely involved with you and
- 1:10:27he can passionately love you. Would you do that or would that
- 1:10:31be too much? to be a Christian if he turned
- 1:10:35out to be a Christian, that's right.
- 1:10:37I'm stared by my I know is a Christian.
- 1:10:40It's I mean unless he tried to make it be too much of a problem
- 1:10:46for her there, right? No, I'm all about Freedom
- 1:10:49thought as long as I get Freedom about it.
- 1:10:51I'm not gonna be coming. I mean, I'm you know me.
- 1:10:54I might become a Christian. I'm not gonna become one because
- 1:10:56somebody kills me I have to and so, you know as long as I'm free
- 1:11:02to believe what I believe, he can believe whatever he wants to
- 1:11:06he can be a probably not Muslim because they don't really
- 1:11:11believe in letting other people have freedom about thought that
- 1:11:16you know, no I wouldn't care I mean I probably wouldn't go out
- 1:11:20and seek out somebody as a Christian and maybe a Christian
- 1:11:25really would want anything to do with me because like atheists
- 1:11:29are like the most hated people in America.
- 1:11:33We're the only people the only people that we are trusted more
- 1:11:37than is rapists. Actually an Apollo and I heard
- 1:11:41that before are you right about it?
- 1:11:44They trust rapist this, you know the least and then we're right
- 1:11:48above the rapist. But I mean, I really don't care
- 1:11:52what other people think about me.
- 1:11:53I know who I am. I am a hard worker.
- 1:11:57I try to be honest all the time because I really don't I really
- 1:12:03have to care about something enough to lie about it.
- 1:12:05It's way I feel about it and I don't really care about very
- 1:12:09much enough to lie about it. Um You know, and I'm good to
- 1:12:15people I think I mean and I can be a bitch.
- 1:12:18I'm I hope it's all right say that I really not say that I can
- 1:12:26be one. You know, I mean, I can be a
- 1:12:28really big one if I want to be but I have to be comfortable
- 1:12:31into it. So and if you like the way she
- 1:12:39works things good stuff. Thank you.
- 1:12:44Hopefully Miss and model come in here missing mod once come in
- 1:12:48here. She'd probably feel a lot more
- 1:12:50comfortable having a buddy in here.
- 1:12:51Come on. We also yeah, we also got one of
- 1:12:55my buddies in the comment section.
- 1:12:57I don't know if he's gonna want to jump in tonight, but he might
- 1:13:01jump in sometime down line Dr. Tom.
- 1:13:05Is I don't care guys and I don't care to answer questions if
- 1:13:08anything. I don't feel attacked.
- 1:13:11I just I get a little Rowdy on the abortion thing that that's
- 1:13:15just that's not Charles fault. That's That's just what's going
- 1:13:18on for a while now? No, I like him people with
- 1:13:22passion in the room who actually care about different issues and
- 1:13:26they put some thought into it or some people we have been where
- 1:13:29they're just kind of shallowed. They don't really care about
- 1:13:32anything. It's good to have people with
- 1:13:34heart for sure. Anybody wants to come in.
- 1:13:36There's a link in the description come on in and let's
- 1:13:39chat looks like Miss and I'll be in just a moment.
- 1:13:44Super equation. Okay, the first one not bread
- 1:13:46first Brett. Are you a Christian?
- 1:13:51At this point I'm starting to fall back into just theism
- 1:13:55because I find myself getting into you probably heard this a
- 1:13:59million times, but I'm getting tired of having to argue with
- 1:14:02other religious people about who's who's got Daddy's apple or
- 1:14:07who's a teacher's pet kind of nonsense at that.
- 1:14:09What's the right? What's the right one?
- 1:14:11What's the right? What's the right book?
- 1:14:13What's the right translation? Do you interpret God, you know
- 1:14:17properly all this case. I'm sick of it.
- 1:14:20I do. I am absolutely convinced.
- 1:14:22There's a higher power. But I don't have like I said
- 1:14:26today in one of my comments and Lucifer seen it and commented so
- 1:14:30did missing mod. I believe there's a God, but I'm
- 1:14:32not sure I can trust him that he actually cares about my
- 1:14:36well-being as much as I'd like him to or what some Christians
- 1:14:39actually believe and you're not sure you can Define either or
- 1:14:43Define God. I believe but I believe that
- 1:14:47there are scientific ways to actually prove that the
- 1:14:51Supernatural is actually viable that word that you use however
- 1:14:55actually dictating which concept of God it is putting the name on
- 1:15:00it like Bob the Builder Jesus or anything like that.
- 1:15:03That would be challenging. And like so do you follow do you
- 1:15:11how much value in the Bible? I do believe that the many of
- 1:15:16the things that happen in the Bible were true.
- 1:15:19But as you know, being that you were a former Christian, I also
- 1:15:22believe that there's a lot of metaphors Parables and teachings
- 1:15:26to try to give us an idea or philosophy how to live.
- 1:15:30I don't believe all of its literal.
- 1:15:33Okay. So do you believe in a old Earth
- 1:15:36or a new Earth? I believe that the Earth is
- 1:15:39probably billions of years old. I do have many friends that are
- 1:15:43young Earth creationists and I've given them ample
- 1:15:45opportunity to convince me. Otherwise I can sit in here with
- 1:15:49young Earth creationists for hours and listen to them.
- 1:15:52But at this point I don't feel like they've given me enough to
- 1:15:55be able to change my view. Yeah, you can open it.
- 1:16:00That was fine. My parents are young nurse
- 1:16:03creationists. I actually am a mod over on
- 1:16:06matters now and I hang out with flat earthers and everybody so,
- 1:16:10you know, just you know. I feel like that.
- 1:16:15Beliefs, like I said, I believe in everybody.
- 1:16:17Everybody should be. What you believe is like what in
- 1:16:21your own mind should not ever be controlled by anybody else.
- 1:16:24So I know I sometimes I would like to convince people to
- 1:16:29think. To spend more time thinking
- 1:16:31about what they believe. I mean not want to change their
- 1:16:34belief. But at least have spent some
- 1:16:37time actually thinking about it. Right.
- 1:16:41No, right and I have thought about it all my life whenever it
- 1:16:45comes to the concept. I was actually for a while
- 1:16:48there. I was actually a former atheist
- 1:16:51for a long long time considered a pretty popular one in social
- 1:16:54media, but I after having some experiences which is not
- 1:16:58something I can repeat for my audience out there.
- 1:17:01Obviously, that's why it's called a personal experience.
- 1:17:04I started being more open to the concept of the higher power.
- 1:17:09But there's also other things like one of the me and you
- 1:17:13talked about this Lucifer. There's a lot of Christians out
- 1:17:16there the state that only one God exists.
- 1:17:18Well, biblically, this simply isn't true.
- 1:17:20It seems as though there are other entities that also exist
- 1:17:24in there actually named biblically as well as in
- 1:17:27demonology and other text absolutely exactly right there
- 1:17:33because of one true God is is now that's not biblical at all.
- 1:17:40It's not it's not biblical feel like light in the The new test I
- 1:17:46don't know if it really but it you know that that's a church
- 1:17:49take doctor and really more than a Biblical death. well, it's
- 1:17:56it's kind of tough to explain it goes back to the whole First
- 1:18:00Council and I see it and Emperor Constantine what we got in the
- 1:18:05Holy Bible the Christian Bible is a very selected collection of
- 1:18:13cats and that what they wanted. Yeah, they threw out a lot of
- 1:18:19different things. That contradicted those texts.
- 1:18:24One of the big ones that they throughout was the Gnostic text
- 1:18:27the Gnostic groups. They didn't even allow them to
- 1:18:30show up like comments. Yeah, the whole the whole
- 1:18:34gnostic. All right, James show up.
- 1:18:38I know like James and Thomas. And I'll send them some of the
- 1:18:46nastics are James and Thomas right the the gospel Thomas the
- 1:18:50gospel of James. Well when you look at when you
- 1:18:54look at the Gnostic. Text when you actually look at
- 1:18:58them they appear to be the oldest form of Satanism around.
- 1:19:03There's a lot of things there that a lot of satanists
- 1:19:07including levians, like myself or more theistic ones like Dr.
- 1:19:11Tom will agree with now Dr. Tom there.
- 1:19:16He's a buddy of mine. But he will go even older than
- 1:19:22the NASA text to Mesopotamian culture Mesopotamia Babylonian
- 1:19:26and Sumerian cultures. He's very knowledgeable on that
- 1:19:29stuff. See that's all I follow Dr. Josh
- 1:19:32about Bowen and you don't come out.
- 1:19:39He he's his wife works with bar Arman.
- 1:19:44But he is a serious they're both the seriologists.
- 1:19:47He has a PHD in man near Eastern religion study or narration
- 1:19:55studies. Whatever.
- 1:19:57And well at least be aware of them and what not because that
- 1:20:04is his whole that's his big specialty.
- 1:20:06Yeah, and he's in he's a really good guy.
- 1:20:09Who's a really good God. We're hoping that he comes on to
- 1:20:11the show at some point. He's been talking about it.
- 1:20:14So yeah. Yeah, I like follow Dr. Josh He
- 1:20:19digital Hammurabi is his channel. and they're both the
- 1:20:25seriologists and so there's just like, you know, there's somewhat
- 1:20:29there's so much stuff there that that the people the Christians
- 1:20:35in rural Kentucky have no clue about I mean and and I didn't
- 1:20:42either until. After I became, you know started
- 1:20:47becoming more skeptical. and I started looking into all that
- 1:20:52and it's just a whole lot. There's just helped me layers to
- 1:20:57all of religion nice is so so not without it's not exactly and
- 1:21:04I don't say that there is no God because first thoughts on false
- 1:21:07Bible. And second of all I'm I wouldn't
- 1:21:11want to tell my mom. There's no God, you know, she's
- 1:21:13almost eight years old. She's you know, yeah, that's my
- 1:21:18way around here is longer and she's believing God all our life
- 1:21:21and thought she's going to heaven.
- 1:21:23And there's no way I would go in there and say your others no
- 1:21:26heavy and you're not going to heaven.
- 1:21:27My girl is a grandmother. We just very her late last year
- 1:21:33early this year. I can't remember.
- 1:21:36She was like 94. So that's not something that
- 1:21:39we're going to tell her. Yeah, that's right and I mean, I
- 1:21:43believe that you know at my some people even in my age when I
- 1:21:47came across the bad did on my own, you know me.
- 1:21:50It wasn't like somebody shoved it down my throat and you know
- 1:21:53and said, hey, there's no God. I mean, I I lost my belief on my
- 1:21:58own and so I deal with it pretty good.
- 1:22:02But you know taking away your life on belief in something like
- 1:22:06that, right? There is can be very damaging to
- 1:22:09people. What do you feel about the we
- 1:22:13talked about magical a little bit earlier?
- 1:22:15What do you feel about the supernatural?
- 1:22:17Do you feel like that? That is something about you?
- 1:22:24Yes. actually and all I can say is if there is a supernatural.
- 1:22:35any other Supernatural then witchcraft is just worse just
- 1:22:39saying I mean it is just as Bible of a a ideal as any other
- 1:22:46ones and I I think the community is more accepting.
- 1:22:55Of course, it's kind of dominated by a lot of women.
- 1:23:00But there are many and it's more tolerant of I mean, I know we
- 1:23:05all probably you may it from what our conversation every day.
- 1:23:08I really don't want to get on this but I'm you know, I'm I'm
- 1:23:12not lgbtq in any way that I'm fully supportive of the rights.
- 1:23:18And so and I found it witchcraft was way more tolerant of That
- 1:23:26kind of situation right there. And how is the powerful
- 1:23:30Community is an empowers people? I mean There is nothing more
- 1:23:35empowering than to feel like that.
- 1:23:38You have some control over manipulating euros. right
- 1:23:44Humans, do it all the time whether it wants me through
- 1:23:48witchcraft or science. Well, a lot of people don't have
- 1:23:51magic called one name or another.
- 1:23:54So a lot of women especially women don't have the power
- 1:23:57though is like we're not we don't have that political Social
- 1:24:02Power. To do that to control that but
- 1:24:06witchcraft gives them that feeling of control.
- 1:24:10And I think it's a I mean, even you know, it's it's a it's a
- 1:24:16good for the meditation. You know that I did the the
- 1:24:22mentor, you know, and and I didn't like doing spells, you
- 1:24:26know, I like doing spells I And I always wanted to kind of do a
- 1:24:30like a group spell with even though I wasn't in a cousin, I
- 1:24:34would like to have done one just for the the dancing and the
- 1:24:37Drummond and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:24:39I do have my own drums. And I was drums.
- 1:24:44No, like like drums for like all right.
- 1:24:49I'm boom. Boom to do, you know to like to
- 1:24:52build my cone of power at first fail?
- 1:24:56I don't know if you know, you know what I'm talking about.
- 1:24:58Well lose. I know probably more on that
- 1:25:01understand more of that than I would.
- 1:25:04But like it we, you know when you're doing a style or not,
- 1:25:08everybody does everything the same way though, but this I
- 1:25:11would I would make a circle, you know, I did not always use salt
- 1:25:16I would use my wand and I would like most pagans but most pagans
- 1:25:20cast What's called the magic circle and you can use anything
- 1:25:24from a wand to minerals like salts or crystals candles, um
- 1:25:30some experience the cultist can use just some Bluetooth fingers
- 1:25:34and direct their energy to cast magic circle, but it's all
- 1:25:38intended to raise power into what is called the cone of
- 1:25:44power. Where's the power coming from
- 1:25:46it's a good you feel coming from you and the ritual that you're
- 1:25:52doing and then you direct that energy towards your Target and
- 1:25:57it's release. And after it's released you
- 1:26:02dispel the circle now satanists. We don't use magic circles.
- 1:26:06This is something Anton LaVey was very against he believed
- 1:26:10that if you're gonna be calling on courses of Darkness, you're
- 1:26:13gonna be summing up demons Devils.
- 1:26:15What? Why are you gonna put a barrier
- 1:26:17in between you and them? Yeah, that makes it you know
- 1:26:21their side. Yeah, that's what the circles
- 1:26:24for. So that makes sense.
- 1:26:25That's what the circle is supposed to protect me from
- 1:26:28those. Yeah, we're you know us being
- 1:26:32satanists were like hey, these guys are our friends.
- 1:26:34We were not gonna hide ourselves from them.
- 1:26:37See, I don't know much about the Satan is now okay.
- 1:26:40Our this is not got nothing to do really with the day of the
- 1:26:44Bible, right? Say that again.
- 1:26:48Like this. Is this the Satan of the Bible.
- 1:26:52Yeah, okay. All right.
- 1:26:54Okay. I was thinking it well, I mean,
- 1:26:56I it's It's based on it a little better characterization of that
- 1:27:02and oh quickly start. Oh, sorry for interrupting.
- 1:27:06You there Robin? Oh, it's okay.
- 1:27:07I'm sorry Rex magic circles are not third level magic that is
- 1:27:11base beginner magic. It's one of the first things
- 1:27:14that you're taught in apprenticeship magic circle or
- 1:27:17Circle casting is the ground Basics before you learn anything
- 1:27:22else. I don't know where you got it
- 1:27:25being third level but oh, he's stalking up.
- 1:27:30He's talking D&D. Okay.
- 1:27:33Yeah, you are not talking Dungeons and Dragons here Robin.
- 1:27:41I was running after it looks like missing mods gonna finally
- 1:27:45be able to manage to get in somebody put a bad spell on her
- 1:27:48internet I suppose but I my question for you is would you
- 1:27:52define the supernatural as something either an event or
- 1:27:57life form that exists outside of the very laws of nature or
- 1:28:01Beyond it? my deal of it and I probably
- 1:28:09would still stick with that one if I thought it if I was to.
- 1:28:15assume it was true or even find out if the evidence I would look
- 1:28:20for would be more in the In the like a theorial just power the
- 1:28:27Universe. I don't know and what I'm trying
- 1:28:31to get you the go with on this is this do you believe that that
- 1:28:36is the definition of Supernatural or do you interpret
- 1:28:39it differently something that exists whether it be an entity
- 1:28:43or an event that happened before laws even existed.
- 1:28:48Now, I think my definition would be something that is. outside
- 1:28:55the laws of nature more powerful than the laws I guess.
- 1:29:04Beyond the laws not really outside because it can work
- 1:29:08inside too. I mean, you know, I believe that
- 1:29:11my magic yo affected life you're on Earth, so it wasn't outside.
- 1:29:19It was just Beyond a little bit you mean it was like just super
- 1:29:28you know, I mean, you've got natural and then Supernatural so
- 1:29:32it's like I'm wearing you would you interpret Supernatural is
- 1:29:36something that exists outside of the laws of the natural?
- 1:29:41yes a force like you know force or and and I would like he's God
- 1:29:46sometimes too but I really didn't see them as individual
- 1:29:50entities as much as energies or intentions like the different
- 1:29:58planets. Like I said, I did planetary
- 1:30:00magic so I would work with You know like Venus and Saturn and
- 1:30:07Mars and they were not so much as Gods but they were energies
- 1:30:13that would bring an energy to my spell for a specific intention.
- 1:30:19So if I was like wanting to to cast some sort of love spell or
- 1:30:23beauty spell or something, I would use Venus the part, you
- 1:30:26know, the energy from the planet Venus and I would use all her
- 1:30:29correspondence in her favorite her favorite animals and her
- 1:30:34favorite herbs and her favorite stones and I would put all of
- 1:30:38that into my spell as much as and then times a day's it's
- 1:30:44worth just, you know worked out to where everything was
- 1:30:46perfectly surrounded around to satisfying that energy that I
- 1:30:52wanted brought into my spell. Well, let me I'm gonna put
- 1:30:55something out there for you. And this will give you something
- 1:30:58to think about and then I'm going to take a break for a
- 1:31:01moment and you and Lucifer can talk about whatever you like.
- 1:31:04I suppose I just need a little little bit of a break but Do you
- 1:31:09believe in the The Big Bang Theory which is commonly bleed
- 1:31:12by most of majority of scientists as well as
- 1:31:15non-believers and even a majority of Christians actually
- 1:31:18believe an event like the big bang happened.
- 1:31:20Do you believe that? I don't know that but they have
- 1:31:25like I have I'm not I've never studied much but cosmology.
- 1:31:30I probably know more cosmology now than I ever known my life.
- 1:31:34I still don't know much about it.
- 1:31:35I do accept. The Big Bang because it is the
- 1:31:41accepted consensus among. The people who really know
- 1:31:46anything about it and like I watched base Theory Grayson and
- 1:31:52stuff and he explains it very well.
- 1:31:56Add like you know. It says that the singularity or
- 1:32:02whatever something existed. You know, the Big Bang wasn't an
- 1:32:06explosion is the expansion. I don't know if you know well
- 1:32:10some scientists back in the day actually used terms like
- 1:32:13explosion like Albert Einstein and the priest to actually came
- 1:32:17out. I'll try to go I try to feel
- 1:32:19like the people who are doing it now.
- 1:32:22Game, right the claiming that it expanded the universe and the
- 1:32:26universe is still expanding. Well, let me let me know
- 1:32:30something. Let me throw something real
- 1:32:32simple out. I'm gonna explain something a
- 1:32:35simplistic way and maybe having thought of this before and it
- 1:32:38might make you go. Wow.
- 1:32:39I didn't think about like that. If such a thing that exists like
- 1:32:43a singularity a powerful energy this energy would have existed
- 1:32:48outside of the laws of nature because nature had not come into
- 1:32:51existence through the universe yet.
- 1:32:53That means that space and time and matter had not come into
- 1:32:57existence. Therefore that would mean that
- 1:33:00the entire universe in itself is a supernatural event.
- 1:33:04It is outside the laws of nature because the laws himself did not
- 1:33:09exist. Now with that being said and
- 1:33:11everybody scratching their head going.
- 1:33:12Oh shit, that's pretty neat actually about that. you have I
- 1:33:19mean, yes, I mean. For that and they say it makes
- 1:33:23no sense to say before the big bag because that's when our
- 1:33:27local presentation of the universe began and that's when
- 1:33:31times FaceTime started or you know, I mean again and later
- 1:33:36when without nature remember when Nature came into existence,
- 1:33:40then the laws laid down along with all the inverse and
- 1:33:44everything like gravity at all that stuff began to from The Big
- 1:33:48Bang for it. And so but there Prior to that
- 1:33:54point at 14.6 billion years ago when this expansion began.
- 1:34:01Something existed that caused it either something caused it.
- 1:34:06Or I mean there was a causation. There was something there there
- 1:34:10had to be something there. I kind of feel like I probably
- 1:34:14tend more towards the universe has always existed in some form
- 1:34:19or another that may be it go it maybe it, you know after expands
- 1:34:25so big, you know, finally all collapse back into the
- 1:34:29singularity and then we'll do it.
- 1:34:31All again. I don't know.
- 1:34:32I really don't know. Yeah, that's fair enough fair
- 1:34:38enough. But if you if you think about
- 1:34:40it, whether it recycles itself or goes back into this if you
- 1:34:44think about what a singularity would have been like it would
- 1:34:47have been a powerful ancient energy powerful enough to create
- 1:34:51the universe and it would have existed out us outside of
- 1:34:55space-time and matter if you think about it.
- 1:34:57That's the very attributes that most religious people give to
- 1:35:01God Yes, so I will be right back missing mod is here and she can
- 1:35:07keep you company. I'm glad to see you sweetie.
- 1:35:09I hope your day's been good. I'll be right back.
- 1:35:11I miss you. Mine.
- 1:35:13Hi missing. How you doing?
- 1:35:16Good evening. Hello, don't mind me.
- 1:35:20I'm just playing some Halo 4. Well, I was time to use it other
- 1:35:24people. Those other people did they have
- 1:35:27anything I've just been talking away.
- 1:35:31Yeah, it's been interesting. I've been listening.
- 1:35:35And I'm gonna actually some questions wrongly.
- 1:35:38Oh, yeah. Well, I wouldn't know more about
- 1:35:40that. There's okay.
- 1:35:41I I have like a lady that I followed her name was Savannah.
- 1:35:48Okay, she is in New Orleans. She belongs to the black witch
- 1:35:53coven. but she works with and I don't want to say worships
- 1:36:00because she works with Lucifer as her like her.
- 1:36:05That's her Main. You know deity or demon or
- 1:36:09whatever. Are you similar to that sort of?
- 1:36:16I don't really think she called herself a Satanist.
- 1:36:20I'm a Satanist. I mean Anton LaVey, I think she
- 1:36:24was like is there a luciferian maybe well, there's luciferians
- 1:36:29out there and they're they're slightly different things.
- 1:36:32They're more in line with agnostic teachings.
- 1:36:34There's a couple of different versions of luciferians.
- 1:36:37You have your American luciferians, which um, I don't I
- 1:36:44don't really subscribe to what they teach because it's so
- 1:36:46broken up from the actual luciferian text.
- 1:36:50And then you got sure European luciferians which belong to
- 1:36:55various secret societies and they have like A shit ton of tax
- 1:37:00that is just not made public. Um what American loosepherians
- 1:37:06have it's just like a small fraction of what these guys have
- 1:37:10publicly pretty sure she used like the Satanic Bible or like
- 1:37:15that was a you know, one of her her work her type, you know,
- 1:37:19some of her type well the Satanic Bible is definitely the
- 1:37:24Gateway document that most satanists read and what it what
- 1:37:30it works as it works as a mirror to our souls if we see ourselves
- 1:37:35already behaving and living Our Lives the way Anton LaVey
- 1:37:40describes in that book and we just simply take on that say
- 1:37:47this we don't try to convert or change who we are just to be you
- 1:37:53know. Just to be a Satanist.
- 1:37:56No. No, she she's really this if you
- 1:38:00ever take take one take a look at her to check her out on black
- 1:38:03witch coven. It's in her name Savannah.
- 1:38:06She is awesome, but I learned so much from her because you know,
- 1:38:11even though I didn't exactly work with her system.
- 1:38:15She you know, she she did a lot she gave that a lot of
- 1:38:19information on like riding spells and you know and crazy
- 1:38:26sales. I run an organization called The
- 1:38:29Satanic fulean society, which I threw a link out earlier from
- 1:38:34it. to one of our pages but if you're curious, I'll go ahead
- 1:38:39and throw the link back out. I really like learning stuff.
- 1:38:47I like you know me. I I like to know the difference
- 1:38:51systems. There's so much to learn inside
- 1:38:59that world apologies. I'm still recovering from being
- 1:39:02sick. There's just so much to learn
- 1:39:04inside that world. There's so much information.
- 1:39:06Just the I mean just somebody said this book called The
- 1:39:10Satanic Testament. Yeah, we have I wrote the book
- 1:39:16called satanic Testament actually. do she was I remember
- 1:39:23she worked with Lucifer it particular like most most all
- 1:39:26the people that were followed her had like one particular
- 1:39:31demon that I this is my book this Panic Testament.
- 1:39:36It's over 500 pages long. All right, so we got a new
- 1:39:41person in the room. Let me put up something real.
- 1:39:44Oh. Here We Go, Robin,
- 1:39:47unfortunately, I don't know if missing mod told you about this,
- 1:39:49but I get people who like to scream racial slurs at me and
- 1:39:53yell at me. It's because the whole Christian
- 1:39:56thing but here goes And see yeah, right so you good Rex.
- 1:40:04Are you good person? You don't remember me Brett now.
- 1:40:06Maybe I'll be an ass. Racks, don't be no.
- 1:40:11No, I'm a good person. I'm not gonna Flash no.
- 1:40:13Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- 1:40:14I remember you. You're good.
- 1:40:15People you learn welcome. I would not break the OS.
- 1:40:20Sweet. Well, I'm glad you came in Rex
- 1:40:22where you been. It's been a long ass time.
- 1:40:24Oh man, you know real life be an adult doing boring shit.
- 1:40:28Oh, no, not one of those. I think I saw you a real another
- 1:40:36Channel ago. Oh, yeah, I kind of worked I go
- 1:40:39and talk and like Proverbs guy and like Father Chuck.
- 1:40:42I'm all over the place. Okay, you were on gangsters
- 1:40:46Channel I go. Okay might have been father
- 1:40:51Chuck's maybe I thought were we on Father checks are gangsters.
- 1:40:55I thought we were on gate we were on gangsters Channel
- 1:40:57missing line father tuck ever learn how to use his microphone
- 1:41:01properly. Yes, actually he did that's
- 1:41:05wonderful. Oh man it was like listen to a
- 1:41:08snarling animal every time you gotta hold that thing.
- 1:41:10Oh, yeah Father Charles is good people It's I like him and all
- 1:41:19that but he used to breathe real heavily in the mic when people
- 1:41:22are talking like you're right over there Darth Vader relax
- 1:41:25there. Fella.
- 1:41:25I love Charles ASMR. It was great.
- 1:41:31We can't hear him over Billy the truck driver.
- 1:41:34Yeah. Yes, Robin.
- 1:41:36I was there briefly my internet sucks when I stream.
- 1:41:39So yeah, if you're the same Robin and yes, yes, that's me.
- 1:41:46Now Robin, I when I seen you in the interview, I I don't know if
- 1:41:49I I didn't have my glasses on at the moment, but she had like
- 1:41:53some big red hair. Did you change that recently
- 1:41:56now? I had a wig on.
- 1:41:59That's pretty cool kind of kind of gave me back some of the
- 1:42:02Vibes of the 80s and stuff. I love 80s.
- 1:42:08Here, but see I just happened to be sitting here and I didn't I
- 1:42:12just happened to be on another show which I had been on
- 1:42:15gangster's Channel and then I went to matters now for a little
- 1:42:18walk because I'm the model over there and they were finishing
- 1:42:20it. And then I was just had with
- 1:42:23Dawn and I saw your ears come up.
- 1:42:26And so that's why I jumped on but yeah, I it was a way I we a
- 1:42:32big red wig. Well, Robin, I hope you become a
- 1:42:35consistent guess you're a very interesting person and missing
- 1:42:39mod. You've gotten really good at
- 1:42:41graphic design. I love some of the the creative
- 1:42:44side of some of your videos. Thank you very much.
- 1:42:48She is very talented. Thanks.
- 1:42:51Yeah people they see my face on video and they think it's a
- 1:42:54Halloween Channel. No.
- 1:42:59Don't you monic but King I keep on trying to get missing Marta
- 1:43:06come on over and do a do in the centerfold through the Clover
- 1:43:10hook but keeps entering help me that she told me that.
- 1:43:21You know, there's nothing wrong with it. big bad mama might Hey
- 1:43:26big, baby mama. My addition yeah additional
- 1:43:31Clover hoof black Miller forgot to take his medication.
- 1:43:35Oh that needs to be atonement Edition.
- 1:43:39I think that's every Edition. Al joke out of it.
- 1:43:44Alright big bad moms great So what do you think about spells
- 1:43:51and Magic that intrigues you I'd like to hear Lucifer on this as
- 1:43:56well. Well spells and Magic it's just
- 1:44:04I don't know why it's just been something that's When I was
- 1:44:08younger it it attracted me the whole notion of being able to
- 1:44:11achieve things. that I had had no control over beforehand, but
- 1:44:19I think as time goes on as we study the occult and we get into
- 1:44:24it more more. We become less enamored with the
- 1:44:30use of spells and sorceries in a Are ritualistic sense and we
- 1:44:38more realize that we can incorporate it into our everyday
- 1:44:42lives and that we don't need to do a big ritual in large cast
- 1:44:48spell. Or many sort of sorcery or
- 1:44:52Magic. It becomes second nature to us.
- 1:44:59Yeah. Because everything has
- 1:45:01intention. I mean, I know lots of witches
- 1:45:03that cook, you know, and they they see they're cooking is
- 1:45:09their magic, you know, because that's my girl really right now.
- 1:45:13She's a kitchen witch. Yes.
- 1:45:15She does all sorts of potions and tinctures and whatnot and It
- 1:45:21helps and trust me it helps. Thank you.
- 1:45:24I'll tell you why whenever it comes to cook and I must be a
- 1:45:27Destruction Warlock because like I'll burn ramen noodle.
- 1:45:32Oh. Do you like this for?
- 1:45:37What do you say a warlock is? Well a warlock is an Anglo sex
- 1:45:43word. It means the original definition
- 1:45:47of the word meant liar deceiver Trader.
- 1:45:51Oh those dark animations, but it gained a different reputation as
- 1:45:58well. A warlock became synonymous with
- 1:46:01a dark Wizard or dark magical user.
- 1:46:05That was a man. Hang on.
- 1:46:11Yeah, that's why I was wearing because I'm you know, like a lot
- 1:46:15of males don't want to be called warlocks because of that.
- 1:46:18Well if they're like in Wicca or druidry or general paganism.
- 1:46:24No, they should not be calling themselves warlocks, especially
- 1:46:27if they're not really delving into the left hand path myself
- 1:46:32as left hand path practitioner. I can call myself a warlock
- 1:46:37because that is what I deal with I deal with a lot of the darker
- 1:46:40Arts darker magical sciences. And so a warlock is more of a
- 1:46:47correct term. Here during Robin.
- 1:46:53I got a question for you both. Well, actually anybody can
- 1:46:56answer this. If you could be given one divine
- 1:47:00power. I mean just anything that you'd
- 1:47:02be able to do, but it can only be one thing and you would not
- 1:47:05have to concentrate you would not have to do rituals.
- 1:47:08It's just something you'd be able to do with the snap of a
- 1:47:11finger. What would that power be?
- 1:47:14Only one hearing remember like all the time.
- 1:47:18Yeah, anytime you want you could just look at something and make
- 1:47:22something happen. What would that what would that
- 1:47:24power be if you could only have one?
- 1:47:27transport our kill grave I wouldn't be able to train over
- 1:47:32contradicting fire. Okay, you guys spoke all at the
- 1:47:37same time Robin. Let's go with you first and then
- 1:47:40Lucifer and then Mr. Baller, I won't be able to pop from one
- 1:47:44place to another. By yesterday, you know like I'll
- 1:47:48teleportation. Yeah teleportation
- 1:47:50Transportation, whatever that's what I would pick.
- 1:47:53Now. Remember when I say any power it
- 1:47:56could be immortality Resurrection.
- 1:47:58It could be just anything that you can imagine.
- 1:48:01So you want to teleport different places.
- 1:48:04I would definitely help me get to the gas station to pick up
- 1:48:07cigarettes easier. Yeah grease that would help me
- 1:48:10get to and you know the singer. Um, I don't I don't really want
- 1:48:18to live forever. I think that would get really
- 1:48:22after everybody knew had died. That would kind of be a really
- 1:48:25sad life. I was time like thought about
- 1:48:28what it would be like for the vampires, you know how they live
- 1:48:31and just live and live. He was just everybody you would
- 1:48:35die. And you just just keep living
- 1:48:37and I don't think I want to do that.
- 1:48:41Well, I guess Highlanders are out of the plan too.
- 1:48:45I yeah. I kind of I kind of think it
- 1:48:48maybe you know, I wish we could live to be a little older maybe,
- 1:48:52you know, maybe a couple hundred years would be.
- 1:48:55And staying pretty decent shape, you know till around 150 or
- 1:49:00something like that. That would be that would be
- 1:49:02pretty cool. That would give you a lot longer
- 1:49:04to see the world. and do things that I was very what would you
- 1:49:13do if you had the power? Oh, I want the power feel great.
- 1:49:19Now killgrave is a character for Marvel Comics and he has the
- 1:49:23power to compel people to do whatever he wants just by.
- 1:49:27Talking to them. It just simply asks them to do
- 1:49:30something and they immediately do it.
- 1:49:31He doesn't want them to Blink. They won't blink.
- 1:49:33He doesn't want them to go buy a specific drink.
- 1:49:38They won't go buying that and buy that drink.
- 1:49:40He just simply has to talk to them and they do exactly what he
- 1:49:44says. Ah, what about you missing my
- 1:49:48that sounds like a pretty powerful ability, but you miss
- 1:49:51them. probably like I don't know.
- 1:49:55I was thinking like Mystique, you know where you get
- 1:49:58shapeshift. would be Fun, I guess.
- 1:50:03Where you go? Well, you know, what about you
- 1:50:08records and Mr. Baller? Which one me arrest which we
- 1:50:15want to go first. Oh you go first Mr. Ballard and
- 1:50:18rock me. I like to be kind of like how
- 1:50:20the Ghost Rider. some and hellfire that The Ghostwriter
- 1:50:26Spirit like the right of motorcycle and have Flames
- 1:50:29coming out your skull and yes. Oh, well definitely would look
- 1:50:35cool for sure. What about you Rex?
- 1:50:39Ambitions that I would get all the other powers by default if
- 1:50:42there was a way to get them I would know how to do it.
- 1:50:44Hey, that's pretty clever. That's an easiest that that's
- 1:50:47cheating that's cheating. But good one.
- 1:50:55Oh, yeah, we got bubble gum out there bubble gum.
- 1:50:58You're gonna join us. Bubble gum was being known.
- 1:51:05So Robin the teleportation thing are you simply wanting that so
- 1:51:09you can basically go anywhere in the world you want.
- 1:51:11Yeah. Where is three places that
- 1:51:15you've really really wanted to see?
- 1:51:22Go to Scotland. and I would like to go to maybe one of the
- 1:51:37Norwegian countries or Eliasco would be nice.
- 1:51:45I would like to go to Alaska. and I don't mind.
- 1:51:51But what if you find out how much you would cost to go to
- 1:51:54these places and what it would take to stay there for a little
- 1:51:57while and then open up like a GoFundMe and say look I'd like
- 1:52:01to get out and see the world. I've never been able to do this
- 1:52:03what there's people that are really stupid shit and go fun.
- 1:52:08I know Scotland two kids in college. and milk to haul dairy
- 1:52:16cows do not ever take a day off and they were Oh, you got very
- 1:52:23cows. No, I called me up.
- 1:52:25That's what I do. That's what I do.
- 1:52:27That whole milk. I pick up I pick up milk at a
- 1:52:31very I have a punk on my trailer I back up to the dairy barn and
- 1:52:38run my house in there and hook it up to their milk tank.
- 1:52:41And I pump it on and then I take it to the milk plant.
- 1:52:44What's the price like on something like that?
- 1:52:47That's a robin. Do you ever watch hoof GP?
- 1:52:50Have what? Do you watch the creepy on
- 1:52:53YouTube you watch them? hmm Oh, I mean I figured you
- 1:52:59know, you you call milk and work with dairy farms.
- 1:53:03That'd be a channel. You really find interesting new
- 1:53:06channel. He's a hook trimmer.
- 1:53:09He's a hook truck Outlet trimmer.
- 1:53:11I don't have nothing to do with the hoof trimmers.
- 1:53:14I just know that the milk is usually down and who trimmers
- 1:53:17come the cows don't like it. What's this kind of milk taste
- 1:53:22like compared to what you buy at the store?
- 1:53:25It's a very rich. Now it's got better.
- 1:53:29It's got you know, I still got all the cream the butterfat and
- 1:53:32everything in it. So it's it's a lot richer.
- 1:53:35I I drink it some I don't bring it home because my daughter
- 1:53:40because it's not been. you know homogenized or anything and so,
- 1:53:46you know, there's a if you're not used to drinking it people
- 1:53:50who are like, I've got one Barn as men like Barn. and they they
- 1:53:56drink it all time and they're used to it.
- 1:53:58Like they're intestines, you know are if you're not used to
- 1:54:02it, right it will cause you some serious stomach aches if you are
- 1:54:07inside where you get really constipated.
- 1:54:10Oh, yeah, you've got to be just got back here body to get used
- 1:54:15to it. Okay for way to get some milk
- 1:54:19around here. I do love me some milk.
- 1:54:21I thought hey, I'm stick a hose on a cow and get it out there.
- 1:54:25It's good though. It's really really good.
- 1:54:27I mean, it's it's a it's it's great to make ice cream with
- 1:54:32like if you want to come home. I ice cream.
- 1:54:34You can pull cream off to the top there. my pump actually that
- 1:54:39I pump with sometimes we'll when I get to the plant and I take
- 1:54:45the pump apart to wash it. They'll be like a big old chunk
- 1:54:48of butter like where it's pumped, you know?
- 1:54:51Oh, I don't think I want to hear that.
- 1:54:54It's good. I mean, it's like the best
- 1:55:00butter there is can they do the usually make a product out of
- 1:55:06this material? Yeah, we're out they get to it.
- 1:55:09It's a bot milk balling plant. It goes into five guys, you know
- 1:55:12gallon jugs. They they you know that they do
- 1:55:16all the process into it and then they bottle it but in gallon
- 1:55:20jugs or whatever. You guys are probably saying
- 1:55:24bright you live in Missouri. How the hell do you not know
- 1:55:26this stuff? We got lots of cows and all that
- 1:55:29and I get to smell them when I drive by but I never got
- 1:55:32involved with them, you know like that.
- 1:55:35You have new plant in Springfield. and there's another
- 1:55:42one there down that way. They're too big plants that I
- 1:55:46know I've been to it's in, Missouri.
- 1:55:53I'm trying to think of what other one is.
- 1:55:57But I know that I know where those two are.
- 1:55:59Anyway, there's one Springfield and I can't think of the other
- 1:56:03name that town where he is. There's hey sea science.
- 1:56:07Can we have a link to to read his uh, oh God. forget me can we
- 1:56:19have a link to the video that you're talking about there see
- 1:56:22science, that's from from last week.
- 1:56:25Although I have to have cow pumping and I don't know if you
- 1:56:30all that. But tomorrow Mark is having an
- 1:56:33open room tomorrow night. Well, he's having a reverse room
- 1:56:38Rumble. and it's a he's gonna have different topics every week
- 1:56:44tomorrow night is going to be on Some definition of God, you
- 1:56:51know, there's long particular God.
- 1:56:52He just wants they want he wants to have discussions on what
- 1:56:55people thank God he is and stuff and bread.
- 1:56:59I know. I don't know if he sent you a
- 1:57:01message or something if you got hold of you, but I know that he
- 1:57:04was planning on invite you and Lucifer the end.
- 1:57:07I haven't got any information from him yet.
- 1:57:11I know he put one of our Clips up or something because loose
- 1:57:14for told me that but yeah, you know my show a few times and I
- 1:57:18enjoy his company. Yeah, well, he told me he was
- 1:57:22mean to ask you so it's tomorrow night.
- 1:57:25I'm not sure exactly what time. I can look it up here in a
- 1:57:29minute, but it's open mic. It's gonna be like it a reverse
- 1:57:33for you know, he does the room rumbles where he goes into and
- 1:57:36he said that what it is he's doing it.
- 1:57:39He's inviting the people that he's invaded their rooms.
- 1:57:43So and I know he's specifically said that you are welcome.
- 1:57:48The camera why I do appreciate that but I gotta admit it
- 1:57:52confuses me whenever non-believers want to bring me
- 1:57:55into a room where the the concept of the discussions about
- 1:57:58God because like if you don't believe in God and you don't
- 1:58:02believe in a natural life shouldn't there be better things
- 1:58:05of person not to be doing besides talking about something
- 1:58:07they don't they think exists. I think for example, I have a
- 1:58:12subjects out there. I don't I don't I don't spend
- 1:58:14hours a day talking about Harry Potter, although I think it's
- 1:58:18interesting. I don't believe it to be real,
- 1:58:20you know more Mercy Tree by that.
- 1:58:23I mean he just he likes learning what everybody thinks about
- 1:58:26stuff like that. That's fair enough.
- 1:58:29No, he's you know how he is. He's he's you know, he's
- 1:58:32respectful on people's beliefs. I mean, he's you know, he's
- 1:58:36proscience. That's for sure.
- 1:58:37You ever seen them you ever seen Hellraiser and how like in the
- 1:58:42first Hellraiser movie they have this doctor was a therapist and
- 1:58:47he's psychologically treating the main character because the
- 1:58:51main character that's a correction there dark.
- 1:58:54That was the second Hellraiser movie.
- 1:58:56Oh, yeah. It was the second one, but you
- 1:58:58know standing but but a cow, the psychiatrist is pretending to be
- 1:59:03you know, you know in caracal scientists.
- 1:59:05It doesn't appear to the supernatural but in secret he's
- 1:59:08like he's really deep into the Supernatural and that's what I
- 1:59:13think is happening with Mark. You think Mark is undercover
- 1:59:18basically into the occult and all that.
- 1:59:20I thought that they used. bald all cultures the robes tend to
- 1:59:28be bold. Marks never been at the age.
- 1:59:32He wasn't right like that. He was right.
- 1:59:35He was raised in Wood though. He did used to believe in
- 1:59:38spiritual like Spirit like, you know.
- 1:59:44And crystals and things he did have a period of that.
- 1:59:49That's his mom was into that kind of stuff.
- 1:59:53I'm not trying to be pissed here anything but I have noticed
- 1:59:56repeatedly I've been doing YouTube often on for about 20
- 2:00:00years and I've seen atheists to hang outs for 10 hours talking
- 2:00:05about God something they don't believe in they're just like,
- 2:00:08you know, if there is a God he's mean, you know, it's like wow 10
- 2:00:13hours of this seriously. AC science, how are you doing?
- 2:00:20Exactly because I don't believe in emulation.
- 2:00:22I'm well, how are you all tonight?
- 2:00:24I'll see them. All right.
- 2:00:26I'm glad to see you. Hope you're enjoy the
- 2:00:29conversation. Likewise Brad.
- 2:00:32I just found your show. I like it.
- 2:00:34I'm a fan already. So Glad to be here sweet sweet
- 2:00:39Rob and I I hope that I didn't offend you by what I was saying
- 2:00:43about seeing those Hangouts and shows like this.
- 2:00:46No, you know you okay, right you will have to do so much more to
- 2:00:51me. I understand and it sort of it
- 2:00:55is sort of a of I don't know us this anomaly among us we kind of
- 2:01:03but it's not really that anomalous because you have
- 2:01:07people like I guarantee right now you can find us someone
- 2:01:10talking about Star Wars indefinitely and you know, no
- 2:01:12one knows most same people don't think that they have any medical
- 2:01:15Orion going through the veins. So people talk about things that
- 2:01:18interest him whether or not they believe they are they exist.
- 2:01:21Well, I mean, I think I think related, you know religion and
- 2:01:25people's gods are. A more impactful than Star Wars
- 2:01:30to my life. Well, they created a Jedi
- 2:01:35religion according to my friend Lucifer.
- 2:01:37I didn't even know that and a Sith religion. people with
- 2:01:42scytheism You know, they vote based on their beliefs.
- 2:01:47They they're my neighbor. You know, my neighbor interacts
- 2:01:54with me based on their beliefs. You know the Saudi I live in is
- 2:02:00is you know affected by people's beliefs.
- 2:02:03And so I think the better you understand people's beliefs and
- 2:02:07you understand where they're coming from and why they hold
- 2:02:10those beliefs and and everything then and the more we talk about
- 2:02:15them. Hopefully the the cream will
- 2:02:18come to the top whatever that is, you know, and the bad idea
- 2:02:22will pushed aside. That's all hope.
- 2:02:25Well, the the other thing is though is I'm not convinced that
- 2:02:29a majority of people who claim to be atheist or actual atheist.
- 2:02:34Anyway, like give you an example of that.
- 2:02:36If I were to ask you right now, do you believe in the
- 2:02:39possibility of God do you believe in the possibility?
- 2:02:44I yes. and I don't believe that I I hold a spot that knowing
- 2:02:52that there it could be possible. I do not say a God is
- 2:02:55impossible. I don't think it's probable and
- 2:02:58I don't think that if that God exists like as in a being just
- 2:03:04like oh, you know a being that it cares like, you know what I
- 2:03:09eat or something like that. Well what you what you just said
- 2:03:12there is more on the lines of either deism or agnosticism.
- 2:03:17The reason why I say that is because the classic definition
- 2:03:20and remember I was a former atheist so I know the definition
- 2:03:23well, I think one one who lacks a belief in deities if you say
- 2:03:30you believe in the possibility that there may be a deity you no
- 2:03:34longer an atheist. That's the quickest conversion
- 2:03:36I've had I don't believe I don't believe that they exist that I
- 2:03:42do not. Okay, like classic philosophy
- 2:03:45says that an atheist is a person who says there are no gods.
- 2:03:51Where I hold I'm more of a matte deal Hunty sort of but atheist
- 2:03:56that says the atheist just means that I like a belief.
- 2:04:00And but you know classic philosophy you actually are
- 2:04:06putting forward sort of a forward a positive claim.
- 2:04:11Of they're not being a God and I don't I don't hold that.
- 2:04:15But how does one be able to hold the statement?
- 2:04:19I lackably thin deities, but I believe in the possibility of
- 2:04:24God or not hold his spot is possible.
- 2:04:27I just it's own falsifiable. So I just really kind of look at
- 2:04:32it. There's just that, you know, I
- 2:04:34mean until skipped the skeptic in me has been trying to not
- 2:04:39accept the claim, especially I mean, you know a man dying claim
- 2:04:43is one thing if missing mod tells me she bought a new car
- 2:04:46then I have no reason to disbelief and not to not believe
- 2:04:51her unless she's just somebody that repeatedly loud to me.
- 2:04:56There's there's no good reason not to believe her so I don't
- 2:05:00believe my car. But when you say there's a God
- 2:05:04that that doesn't like me to eat bacon and and doesn't like me.
- 2:05:11Sex with women then then I sit back and that's a whole lot
- 2:05:15more. For me to accept and believe
- 2:05:20without any evidence then if missing more about a car as long
- 2:05:25as the God doesn't make any kind of rules you'd be fine with the
- 2:05:28basically. I mean, I don't care I mean if
- 2:05:31there's I mean I there's a matter of I'm fine with anyway.
- 2:05:34you mean and I'm like kitchens. I used to say and you know if
- 2:05:40Heaven exists, I like surprises that.
- 2:05:43There you go. It's fair enough loose for said
- 2:05:47he had a question. Yeah, now I keep on sharing this
- 2:05:52whole thing. Something's not false viable.
- 2:05:57Well, here's my thing about that.
- 2:05:59Why are we using this terminology?
- 2:06:01Why are we using this language? Because If something isn't
- 2:06:06falsifiable. If we listen to How it it's
- 2:06:11being stated there then that means it is definitively true.
- 2:06:16Am I correct? No.
- 2:06:19No, please you if it's impossible, then it means that
- 2:06:24you can never prove it. You could never Not I'd say
- 2:06:30prove because that's not really that what I but you can never
- 2:06:33show me show it would be true. in like in science We don't we
- 2:06:40don't prove like Evolution you try to falsify it and and when
- 2:06:45you fail to be able to falsify, right?
- 2:06:48That's really that's when you start you begin to gain
- 2:06:52confidence in it, when it it when it it can survive both five
- 2:06:58ability. And so, you know, okay, but then
- 2:07:02here's here's the thing. It's not this is actually here's
- 2:07:06the thing though. Anything can be put through that
- 2:07:09sort of testing. Anything if we can conceive of
- 2:07:13it, we should be able to test it.
- 2:07:16Okay. How do you False by God.
- 2:07:20Yeah. Look around you.
- 2:07:25What is that me so simply look around you.
- 2:07:28Look at literature War. What you're talking about
- 2:07:31writing? Okay in general.
- 2:07:36And I'm talking. Okay, look at the trees.
- 2:07:40Is that your argument? Something I can't do some sort
- 2:07:45of intelligent design. Okay, but that's just like I
- 2:07:48don't advocate here when it's argument for you.
- 2:07:52My hope is is we're using a sort of a terminology that really
- 2:07:57doesn't make any sense. I'm not saying that there is an
- 2:08:02idea personally, I believe there is but um, The whole way usage
- 2:08:08of the wording thoughts. It's unfalifiable.
- 2:08:11If you fail to believe in it, if you don't believe it and you've
- 2:08:16just falsified it. So what what is the All right.
- 2:08:21What is the best method? That is known to this. for
- 2:08:28investigating something Well, I I would say if we're gonna go
- 2:08:35the science route on this trying to prove the supernatural.
- 2:08:39I think one I think what Lucifer said it's pretty interesting but
- 2:08:43I think one of the reasons why people go there around and I
- 2:08:46know for some atheists when they hear look at the trees, look at
- 2:08:50the bees look at the snails and the whales.
- 2:08:52Well, here's this scientifically hasn't always been known as it
- 2:08:57always been common knowledge that life comes from life.
- 2:09:02According to the laws of the universe his life always
- 2:09:06existed. I mean we haven't had the
- 2:09:08scientific method but like a couple hundred years now, but
- 2:09:11but what we do know our what we do know scientifically 100
- 2:09:16years. You're correct there, but that
- 2:09:18doesn't mean we don't we do here.
- 2:09:20We don't really know how life came about I mean, we I'm not
- 2:09:24that we do know we do know from observation and repeatable
- 2:09:28instances, which is the tactics of science that life is always
- 2:09:34come from another living form. We have never witnessed life
- 2:09:39come from a rock or an inanimate object or what?
- 2:09:42Okay, but you know, that's not what evolution says that we came
- 2:09:46from Rock. Well a biogenesis claims that
- 2:09:50according to a lot of like science.com and life
- 2:09:53science.com, which is a pretty reparable science website.
- 2:09:57It is claiming that there was some chemicals that came out of
- 2:10:01rocks and those chemicals went into the water and got into some
- 2:10:05vents and then started mutating and changing in the life forms.
- 2:10:09And then of course billions of years later became sentient.
- 2:10:12Yeah. Okay, right, but like you put
- 2:10:16syrup that comes out of trees onto your pancakes.
- 2:10:18You're not eating a tree. I mean able now you got me
- 2:10:24hungry. I can't even say the word but
- 2:10:27Now I'm just about that. But we do know that ever.
- 2:10:30We do know that Evolution occurred.
- 2:10:33I mean we are very confident and I and why don't disagree with
- 2:10:40you on there around Calvin doesn't always let's try that
- 2:10:47then you do believe today, you know, I don't know how it
- 2:10:53started. We can't believe that they
- 2:10:56biogenesis is considered the first the first evolutionary
- 2:11:00process. What started the game, right?
- 2:11:04But I think the more fundamental question is to do you think
- 2:11:07that's even logical? I don't care.
- 2:11:09Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter what we have evidence.
- 2:11:12We have everything we don't have any evidence.
- 2:11:15We don't have evidence of a biogenesis, which is okay.
- 2:11:19We have like five out of 10 steps that we can produce.
- 2:11:25But we don't know we don't know the circumstances we came out
- 2:11:29like, you know, it could have began in the events of the
- 2:11:32ocean. It could have began in a puddle
- 2:11:35it could began and you know, we don't know and we will probably
- 2:11:40never know that because my steps he said we had five steps and
- 2:11:45now you're saying it could have happened and that's what that's
- 2:11:48what they say. I mean, that's what when right
- 2:11:52here. The point is so you haven't
- 2:11:55actually observed it though. Have you Robin you're doing
- 2:11:59that? I only it happened.
- 2:12:01You know, it happened. It may have happened more.
- 2:12:06Than the only it happened so long ago.
- 2:12:08I think the main problem is we don't even keep observing it
- 2:12:13because somehow everybody Genesis is no longer happening.
- 2:12:17So the eighth is the atheist will say, you know, a million
- 2:12:21years ago. There was many examples of a
- 2:12:24biogenesis, you know of non-sentient elements putting
- 2:12:30their raging themselves into complex computer like say what
- 2:12:36happened because I don't know but somehow this But somehow
- 2:12:40said but somehow this is no longer a cerebral and current
- 2:12:43time, you know, basic elements halfway to halfway to a cell.
- 2:12:48We don't see that I'm not a physicist or but I do but any I
- 2:12:52don't know how I happen. I know it happened.
- 2:12:55We're here Robin the Robin That's The Well, presently an
- 2:12:59issued, you know, and I hope that you don't believe that
- 2:13:01we're getting down on you but there's a lot of atheist out
- 2:13:04there especially in social media where they talk as though they
- 2:13:07know these things they talk about there's so much
- 2:13:11information and so many positive assertions are made that there
- 2:13:15can't be no possibility or product ability for God and
- 2:13:18that's that's when things start having a conflict you and I
- 2:13:22we're having a great conversation and I'm learning a
- 2:13:25lot from you. But this is the whole point.
- 2:13:27Let me share something with you guys real quick.
- 2:13:30Can somebody read that out loud real quick, please?
- 2:13:32Okay and happy not probably that organic structures and most pre
- 2:13:39really hurt and the most precisely harmonized reactions
- 2:13:43that typify living organisms would be generated by incident
- 2:13:49is zero. Are you Joni Nobel prize winning
- 2:13:55chemists and have a house field of study. about about Genesis
- 2:14:01people who stayed ever die and work on it.
- 2:14:03So I'm gonna you know what that means everybody not all of them
- 2:14:09agree with him. You do realize that a bunch of
- 2:14:12scientists going to a lab and they create the environment and
- 2:14:16the variables and the conditions required in order to create
- 2:14:20something that looks similar to life that still means that a
- 2:14:24mind was required in order for that to happen though you agree.
- 2:14:27You can put your god there that guy further anybody is welcome,
- 2:14:32but they're God in there until we found out something
- 2:14:34different. That's a guy that we're God can
- 2:14:37go but I I do want to point out that I didn't I didn't mention
- 2:14:42God in any of this but you did because you knew that there was
- 2:14:46that there was a spot open there.
- 2:14:48Yeah, you know what I mean? And I know and I don't know what
- 2:14:53happened. I'm not a physicist or chemist
- 2:14:56or even in biologist, you know, I like to play on every now and
- 2:15:01but I do Not know nothing about about Genesis really other than
- 2:15:05what I have. No, like people like Grayson who
- 2:15:09are who understands it a whole lot better than me.
- 2:15:11I watch him and Mark and him and I'm not sure Martin.
- 2:15:15I was much better business. And so I do know that we that
- 2:15:21we've that they think they may they were probably never likely
- 2:15:24for sure. No how life came about on this
- 2:15:27planet because any evidence of that life is gone.
- 2:15:31So it show us how it began. We maybe even you know, we get
- 2:15:38start life, but that doesn't mean that that's the way it
- 2:15:40started then but you know, you have the knowledge Robin you do
- 2:15:46have the knowledge that life requires life in order for life
- 2:15:50to exist. I mean, I don't have that
- 2:15:52knowledge. I mean it makes sense for you
- 2:15:54baby. How do babies come in the world?
- 2:15:57How do some of those things you just earlier?
- 2:16:00I mean conflicts Means today's modern human infants are not
- 2:16:06what life was. 14.6 whatever your five point where there's
- 2:16:14ever been observed that life comes from non life once just
- 2:16:18once no I mean we've we've had proteins that and see I'm just
- 2:16:23repeating we've had proteins that like like well we'll, you
- 2:16:28know, come together and stuff like that but now and we have
- 2:16:32not even bitter. I just fail.
- 2:16:34I'm not trying to buy I hope you don't take offense to this but I
- 2:16:37got a thing of peanut butter sitting in my fridge.
- 2:16:39It's got a lot of protein in it been there for a while and still
- 2:16:42hasn't crawled around and spoke to me.
- 2:16:44Yeah, we know that life. We know life came about somehow.
- 2:16:49And it's just kind of I mean. We but the question is he's like
- 2:16:55you about somehow as a person that does not believe in God.
- 2:17:00I'm expecting just I'm expecting to be spine How the Universe
- 2:17:05began how life began how long and you mean and I'm I just
- 2:17:10because I don't have belief in God.
- 2:17:12I'm expecting to know chemistry physics astronomy.
- 2:17:21I think that's kind of like the same but I'm hope you're not
- 2:17:25feeling that we're trying to put you in that position.
- 2:17:27But that's what religious people feel like.
- 2:17:30We're expected to know this and this and this even whenever a
- 2:17:34lot of these religions claim that the God is mysterious as a
- 2:17:37mind of its own does its own thing, but somehow we're
- 2:17:40supposed to offer it on a platter, you know, but yeah,
- 2:17:43thank you. Claim to be able to know all
- 2:17:49that. they probably Well, I'm much rather they say, you know,
- 2:17:54I mean I don't see how they can claim to know that.
- 2:17:57To me that's well. The thing is they're not being
- 2:18:01rational, but that that's the biggest thing though religion
- 2:18:04isn't rational is it? I mean Robin you you're taking
- 2:18:09what Grace and Mark Reed you're taking that on faith.
- 2:18:13Direction no, I'm not taking it on faith.
- 2:18:15I did I'm not sure you get true, but I do believe in I do accept
- 2:18:19evolution and I did not learn Evolution from either one of
- 2:18:22them. Well, I don't know what you
- 2:18:24don't know if my created in the grace medicine is true.
- 2:18:26So it's okay. What what did I accept that
- 2:18:30marks Reed said it was true. What do you what do you feel
- 2:18:34Grace and has said about Evolution that is true.
- 2:18:36You give us a I don't know why evolutionary theory from
- 2:18:41Grayson. You said you listen to him and
- 2:18:44you but I've learned Evolution long time before Grayson.
- 2:18:48I mean, oh yeah, can we just slow it down here?
- 2:18:52Because I feel like everybody like talking like we're gaining
- 2:18:56up on yeah. Yeah.
- 2:18:56Well relaxation on you there Robin.
- 2:19:01Yeah. Oh break into I want to break
- 2:19:04into discussion with you. You try you again?
- 2:19:08No, I want to break into this this topic really quickly.
- 2:19:14And because when we talk about this, we're talking about
- 2:19:18religion in general everything from science evolution
- 2:19:22Christianity atheism even politics.
- 2:19:26It's all religious in one way or another it's a belief system
- 2:19:31that we as individuals a dog. I don't agree that I don't I
- 2:19:36don't I don't read it it relation.
- 2:19:38If you stay Evolution and you understand and the process that
- 2:19:43works. It's a belief system.
- 2:19:44You are right as much as I And I'm an evolutionist.
- 2:19:49Don't get me wrong. I am an evolutionist.
- 2:19:52I do believe in evolution. But there is that word believe.
- 2:19:58It is a belief that it is, correct.
- 2:20:01Well, yes, and hopefully pointed out one thing.
- 2:20:05If nothing else can open points out one big factor.
- 2:20:10That all of this is going by supposition supposition that
- 2:20:15certain information is correct. And it can be defined in many
- 2:20:21different forms and you think that you are compatible.
- 2:20:25They're equal. you think that subjective if you understand
- 2:20:31English if you stay Evolution and you know, you've seen the
- 2:20:36evidence of the the form obviously, there are other
- 2:20:39people who don't see it the same way, you might Okay, but they
- 2:20:43haven't they haven't I don't believe how women is looked at
- 2:20:46it that way. I believe that if you know if
- 2:20:48you ask me if I come from a strawberry that you are just
- 2:20:52flying around yourself you hung out with flat Earth and I do you
- 2:20:56know, okay, I think but hey you believe that they believe that
- 2:21:03you're this plan. I told him the cats would have
- 2:21:05already pushed everything off the edge.
- 2:21:07If they were okay, that's a good argument right there.
- 2:21:12I mean, so that's another that's another thing you Robin is I've
- 2:21:17heard I've heard a lot of non-believers say that science
- 2:21:19and religion that has too much conflict with it.
- 2:21:22There's no Harmony there, but that's that's not exactly true
- 2:21:26to what non-believers have claimed 98% of the most
- 2:21:30revolutionary scientists throughout time have been
- 2:21:33theistic. They either been Pagan Muslim or
- 2:21:37Christian or Jewish and some sense not I'm gonna provide a
- 2:21:42I'm even Darwin himself said in his book called the scent of man
- 2:21:47that evolution is only possible through a higher power.
- 2:21:50Here's a over a thousand quotes a scientists throughout time
- 2:21:54that spoke highly of God as well as of different religions out
- 2:22:00there and that those that so you you're saying that all the
- 2:22:03thousands of years before whenever all this was come up
- 2:22:07did you know, it was actually a Christian who actually came up
- 2:22:10with the very a tenant of science.
- 2:22:13Yes. You're aware that I actually
- 2:22:18came up with the Big Bang Theory, but I understand all
- 2:22:21that. Yes.
- 2:22:21It was a Catholic priest. Yes. and so why do you believe
- 2:22:27why do you believe there's some kind of conflict there?
- 2:22:29Somebody believes? There's a higher power beliefs
- 2:22:33on those people. but the thing that is is if you go now. and
- 2:22:40you go and I'm just gonna say it's good but this is not why I
- 2:22:43don't believe because of this, but if you go now to the Academy
- 2:22:48of Sciences And you find out how many of them are theists?
- 2:22:54It's 6% So it's a popularity. Well, we we already me and Mr.
- 2:23:02Bubbles and Lucifer. We already realized there's
- 2:23:05plenty of documentaries out there, especially like the there
- 2:23:09was a film a while back called expelled where the fire people
- 2:23:13nowadays who even mentioned the concept of God even John Lenny
- 2:23:19John. It's documentary called expelled
- 2:23:23where constant people what do you mean where like, where is
- 2:23:28this place for this attacking it like Academia, you know that's
- 2:23:32happening all over Academia where basically, you know, yeah.
- 2:23:39Well, this is a problem exclusive to Christians.
- 2:23:41I mean, lots of people are getting canceled for thought.
- 2:23:43I don't think that's our College professors because it's very
- 2:23:48true. Yeah.
- 2:23:50Yeah, there was a guy named Kenneth Miller out there that
- 2:23:53taught University classes and all that and he believed in God,
- 2:23:56but he also believed in evolution.
- 2:23:58He believed that God actually got the process going but
- 2:24:01because he kept mentioning God behind it.
- 2:24:04They ended up putting him out of there.
- 2:24:05He was making assertions that he that he believed that you know
- 2:24:10understand people want to put their God there but there's no
- 2:24:14evidence yet to say that that's exactly where he goes.
- 2:24:17So, you know, you're just fine and tired though, you're not
- 2:24:22teaching it correctly, but I don't know that that person but
- 2:24:25what's okay, I'm gonna look it up so I can see why he was fine.
- 2:24:29I don't know every Miller. I know that like I said atheists
- 2:24:34are the least trusted over rapists in how and how the
- 2:24:37United States so I have a hard time believing all the college
- 2:24:40professors are atheists. Why you know what most atheists
- 2:24:45or not trusted anymore? Because yeah, most other ideas.
- 2:24:49I just said the righteous. Well most the time atheists are
- 2:24:53the ones out there pushing stuff like legalizing pedophilia.
- 2:24:58Now we do not legalize pedophilia.
- 2:25:00Where in the healthy normalizing it normalize it well, if you
- 2:25:05take a look at name one of you ever heard an Ambler, have you
- 2:25:09ever heard the Catholic church I have and it's nothing better
- 2:25:13than what you The campus here is the Catholic church does not
- 2:25:19teach to go out and molest children.
- 2:25:21There are pedophiles to get into the spirit.
- 2:25:23But man, well an Ambler which is actually founded by atheists
- 2:25:28actually invented house or magazine was founded ideas,
- 2:25:31right actually provide the links.
- 2:25:34Let's just clean Sure. Okay.
- 2:25:39The plan was founded by Christians.
- 2:25:41I mean they're idiots on every side of the field.
- 2:25:45Okay, you know no no are you and I know the cats.
- 2:25:50I know that Christians don't support either but if you want
- 2:25:54to go to where the pedophilia rings are the Catholic church
- 2:25:57has been doing it for thousands of years probably here so
- 2:26:01directly a crack Queen Story Hour, isn't that I Nation it's
- 2:26:08other domination is very so you're not saying that's
- 2:26:13subliminal. Subliminal is really pedophilia.
- 2:26:17We're doing better felic is an atheist that they're doing that
- 2:26:21man. Nothing's clothing is not but
- 2:26:23reading a book is pedophilic. How they dress up some
- 2:26:29screenshots. I know you got three right?
- 2:26:32Yes, right. I went ahead and I posted the
- 2:26:36link that I was actually yeah. Can we bring this again?
- 2:26:39Right weird for me? I can't I can't deal with these
- 2:26:42it's most likely some comfortable for you guys talk
- 2:26:46about it. I don't mind Robin.
- 2:26:50I don't mind you mentioning that Catholics have had some pretty
- 2:26:53bad people. There's been people know it's
- 2:26:56not all Christians, but you know ideas don't support affiliate it
- 2:27:01but now is actually an atheist organization.
- 2:27:04That's the point. What's that got to do with athe?
- 2:27:09Ists supported area did you look at the link?
- 2:27:11I gave yours and I'll talk about one.
- 2:27:15No. White sorry, I'm gonna be
- 2:27:21sharing guys, right if that's okay.
- 2:27:23Can I share? Sure.
- 2:27:25All right, I'm gonna go because I cannot deal with these kind of
- 2:27:31crazy claims. Well, there's not looking at the
- 2:27:33you information or no because it you know, it's just crazy stuff.
- 2:27:39It's excited. Atheist support pet Athea.
- 2:27:42I mean, it's that's just something they all atheisted
- 2:27:45that I don't take he said, all right, so this is what Brett is
- 2:27:51why you See you later, Robin afraid of the evidence.
- 2:27:56Sorry to hear about that. I don't know evidence of.
- 2:28:06One deep the cat the Baptist convention and the Catholic
- 2:28:09problem. There's no reason that you I
- 2:28:13could probably count off even more Christians than you did
- 2:28:16arm, whenever it comes to that stuff and I don't endorse that
- 2:28:19any more than I am. George drag queen's who twerk in
- 2:28:23front of children that come on. But okay, look there is a
- 2:28:27difference between a drag queen. reading drag queen dancing Who
- 2:28:34this looks at? I that supported drag queens.
- 2:28:36Anyway, I don't even understand why because I might hear not
- 2:28:42only do I have to know who how life began and how the universe
- 2:28:47began now. I'm supposed to defend know
- 2:28:49right? Everybody.
- 2:28:51Robin doesn't probably like you Robin we did again.
- 2:28:54We hope you come offended. We're sorry and apologize if you
- 2:29:00become offended by any of the comments that we've made.
- 2:29:03We're sorry. All right.
- 2:29:06And around I apologize. I've been you I just don't want
- 2:29:10support nobody's beliefs, but my own.
- 2:29:12Okay enough, they're not so Lucifer you seen the
- 2:29:16information? Yeah, I don't know if you guys
- 2:29:20had it up on your screen or whatnot because I couldn't see
- 2:29:23what was up there or anything. But I already some of the words
- 2:29:28was coming up. If you want I can research
- 2:29:31screen. No one doubts that he's correct
- 2:29:33that handle of a sudden by an atheist.
- 2:29:36It's not it doesn't I just don't what's the point?
- 2:29:40I mean you it's like you guys trying to cover up this past he
- 2:29:46needs he needs help and he needs to be away from kids.
- 2:29:49I don't care if he's atheist if he's a feist if he's a deist if
- 2:29:53he's a the problem is Robin. The problem is is that most the
- 2:29:57people who are pushing for things like NAMBLA and the pet
- 2:30:03harassity. Pater recipes that wanted it
- 2:30:06that's beautiful. They were just attracted but
- 2:30:08they supposedly don't go. Yeah, they're trying to
- 2:30:11normalize it the problem is is that great go ahead and click
- 2:30:14your evidence most link or evidence.
- 2:30:18Track I'm sure you have core facts for Africa.
- 2:30:21Our medic statement correcting story out exact same story hours
- 2:30:25not pedophilia. So even if even if that's
- 2:30:27correct payroll, I'm gonna go ahead and look it up.
- 2:30:30Who is this person? Who's this person?
- 2:30:33It's it's bubble is his role out of my breath.
- 2:30:36Let me know bubble was cool. Relax your Rex.
- 2:30:41I don't know why you're getting all excited over there for
- 2:30:43bubble likes dad write me. I like that.
- 2:30:47I just saying if you're gonna make outrageous claims provide
- 2:30:49you outrageous evidence. It's not outrageous provided
- 2:30:52evidence. Okay, I there you people to
- 2:30:59death most uh, most people in here who are trying to be
- 2:31:03rational realize that no matter what group you name?
- 2:31:06There's gonna be blood and somebody's hands.
- 2:31:08There's going to be evil found in every group somewhere some
- 2:31:12way. That's not the what we're
- 2:31:14arguing about here. You brought up Catholic priests.
- 2:31:16We brought up man butts. Now, you know, I don't think it
- 2:31:19would be a normal day of atheists and religious people
- 2:31:22didn't throw who's the worst out there moment.
- 2:31:25First you are about five minutes at least healthy.
- 2:31:30I was told that idea support pedophilia before I said
- 2:31:34anything about the Catholic church, right that that correct.
- 2:31:37That was the first statement made which put us on I guess
- 2:31:39just trying to figure out why I'm not I'm not shadowing you
- 2:31:42with all the baggage of every Deus ever.
- 2:31:44So I don't know you silencing the bag.
- 2:31:46It's a bad atheist. And that's what I was gonna say
- 2:31:49too is Robin didn't even mention the Catholic church until
- 2:31:53Lucifer kind of made that statement.
- 2:31:57I left field at all atheists support but a feeling or
- 2:32:00something, I don't know. fun So I just want to say hi to you
- 2:32:04guys like good Monday evening missing mod.
- 2:32:06Just clearly you said oh vast majority of certain ones that
- 2:32:13are supporting it or atheists. That's yeah.
- 2:32:17That's what I heard. I didn't hear you say all
- 2:32:19atheist so like that. Yeah, I didn't say you said all
- 2:32:22but you said a vast majority so you must have some evidence for
- 2:32:24that statement. That's all I'm asking.
- 2:32:26Well the evidence that that most safest tend to I said that's
- 2:32:30majority of the ones that were supporting it.
- 2:32:33We're atheist. Did you know what I was trying?
- 2:32:38There's no other kinds of defining terms atheist support
- 2:32:42pedophilia. That's what was said the first.
- 2:32:45That's what I thought I heard too.
- 2:32:47That's exactly what was it atheists.
- 2:32:50I see science, by the way. If that's how it came out that I
- 2:32:53apologize, that's not exactly I've been sick.
- 2:32:56I haven't been thinking right. Hi, Robin, says your microphone
- 2:33:01keeps breaking that I don't know what the deal is with that see
- 2:33:04science. Happy science.
- 2:33:06So we're all agreeance your belief on a deity or lack
- 2:33:10thereof is not affect your belief and how children not be
- 2:33:12treated, correct? Right, and I'm a victim. of
- 2:33:17childhood sexual abuse so am I talked about it many times?
- 2:33:21Yep. So I don't I don't have any.
- 2:33:24I mean I do not. support that at all, but I do not jump to the
- 2:33:32conclusion that that is everything that's going on all
- 2:33:35time, either and You know, I mean there there I've heard a
- 2:33:40lot of people be accused that that that's not what's
- 2:33:43happening. And then the people who that
- 2:33:45they're not accusing of it are the ones that are doing it.
- 2:33:47I mean, you know, I mean I don't want to bring up the Catholic
- 2:33:54Church team, but I've had a lot of people I know who are
- 2:33:57Catholics that have hollered around about the drag queen
- 2:34:02Story Hour. and and but they're tithing a church that is still
- 2:34:08using their tithing money to to pay the legal fees for the
- 2:34:12priests that molested the children so I don't Follow that
- 2:34:19that I don't follow. I don't follow.
- 2:34:21I don't follow fear-mongering news.
- 2:34:24I try to go with some sort of evidence on that.
- 2:34:29Well, beside the pedophile issue.
- 2:34:32Did you check out the link? I provided you with the
- 2:34:35thousands of scientists who have been theist.
- 2:34:40Now, you know we ended up getting into the topic of
- 2:34:46religious people being fired like the genetic the man who
- 2:34:50worked out the human genome. Is that is a it's a Christian?
- 2:34:54I mean he's in he's the one that discovered the human genome and
- 2:34:59and and you know, learn how to read The genome he's crazy.
- 2:35:04So and the reason why they even got brought up is because you
- 2:35:08sounded for a moment there like you were stating that if a
- 2:35:12person believes in a higher power this is going to conflict
- 2:35:15with science now that So you do believe the religious person
- 2:35:20could be a great scientist. Yes.
- 2:35:23Oh, yes. All right.
- 2:35:25All right. Well, we got all that cleared up
- 2:35:27then see that wasn't hard. I think the fundamental problem
- 2:35:31is that you go into science, you're supposed to be neutral
- 2:35:34from all your viewpoints and just check the data and you have
- 2:35:37people on every side, you know, obviously can't open he's gonna
- 2:35:40go guys he's going to look four ways to falsify and make his
- 2:35:45view correct. So he's not going in neutral
- 2:35:47he's going in with a present position.
- 2:35:49He'll admit that he believes the Bible is true and he's going to
- 2:35:51look for that to be the case and everything is a political
- 2:35:55scientist neutral. Well, that's the thing you.
- 2:35:59Was thinking you're supposed to come in neutral but you're you
- 2:36:02do not have to end up neutral and that's a big natural, but
- 2:36:05you're supposed to get rid of me byes as you can you're supposed
- 2:36:09to work and almost I want to make sure that big mama.
- 2:36:13No, I'm not back pedaling if I misspoke if I misstated
- 2:36:18something. in the wrong order, which I admit I can very well
- 2:36:23possibly do but I apologize for accept your apology and I
- 2:36:29apologize if I got here with you.
- 2:36:32Oh, you're fine. You're fine.
- 2:36:34I don't mind being called out if I say something wrong.
- 2:36:37You know if I say something wrong like I did not mean to say
- 2:36:40every single atheist supports. You didn't say that.
- 2:36:42Yes that atheist support pedophilia.
- 2:36:45That's that's all there was no defining what to State.
- 2:36:49What I had intended to state. Is that the vast majority of the
- 2:36:53people who are pushing To normalize your legalize
- 2:36:58pedophilia. Is that most of these people?
- 2:37:01Okay, I as atheists what like in in the southern red States.
- 2:37:12child marriage is More prevalent and legal more legal now.
- 2:37:20Kentucky's pretty good, Kentucky like 16 with consent and but
- 2:37:26then you know, there's there's Tennessee actually tried to
- 2:37:30remove all legal age limits last year and it didn't pass through
- 2:37:35their state house. And they wanted to so that there
- 2:37:38would be no minimum age requirement to get married for
- 2:37:43children. So I know what the Bible says
- 2:37:47about age of consent and I want to a woman can marry what does a
- 2:37:51what's the tenant Bible does it have an opinion on that?
- 2:37:53Does it talk about when a woman is able or becomes an adult?
- 2:37:56No, no, not in general. Mostly.
- 2:37:58We state that go by the country's laws on the basically
- 2:38:04you walk as a wolf and sheep's clothing and you abide by the
- 2:38:08laws of the area that you're living in or that you're in in
- 2:38:12order to address that so the laws state that something is
- 2:38:16legal. Then it's legal.
- 2:38:18It doesn't then you don't do it. But he must certainly have your
- 2:38:22own moral judgment, right? I mean something also it's okay
- 2:38:25to marry a 13 year old. Are you going to marry 13 year
- 2:38:27old because it's legal. I'm personally wouldn't but
- 2:38:32that's just me because I find them to immature.
- 2:38:35Mentally immature physically if we look back about a hundred to
- 2:38:39200 years that was, you know, perfectly legal that was
- 2:38:42actually considered primary age. Yeah, but that doesn't mean it
- 2:38:45was good. I mean, we actually have learned
- 2:38:47more about it. Right look at Game of Thrones.
- 2:38:50For example, I know but we've learned before as soon as a girl
- 2:38:55had her first Menses choose to be married off that was me times
- 2:39:00and that's still happens. You know, that way there's still
- 2:39:04plenty of places in the world that do that even now But we
- 2:39:08also now, we now know that a girl's body even though she may
- 2:39:12have started her Menses. Her actual body is not matured
- 2:39:17enough until like six between 15 and 16.
- 2:39:21And so we push it up to 18 most time before it's actually safe
- 2:39:26because having children and before her body has fully
- 2:39:31developed because she's not developed yet, even though she's
- 2:39:34hands are now I mean because so like there's hot sometimes back
- 2:39:42there. You live a long time if you made
- 2:39:45it to your thirties, that's right.
- 2:39:47So you were married. All right.
- 2:39:54Yeah. I I know somebody who had a baby
- 2:39:57yet got pregnant at 12. And she like that's her most
- 2:40:03healthy kid now. You know, that's an adult don't
- 2:40:06miss him on that's not a that's not a a common.
- 2:40:11I mean that's not the percentage of what happens.
- 2:40:15I mean When in with us this actually deals with genetics so
- 2:40:21you the reason people when you have no so no.
- 2:40:26So for example, somebody has a kid in their 30s.
- 2:40:29They are marked likely for that child to suffer from sort of
- 2:40:33disease because mutations have accumulated.
- 2:40:36And so and so it's better for them to have it when you know
- 2:40:39when they're 18. Because it they haven't infested
- 2:40:42with mutations. No, it's not.
- 2:40:44It's not better for women have kids at 18.
- 2:40:47They're not even mentally mature that's really notes that has
- 2:40:51better way. It's better.
- 2:40:52Not generally you hear anything like you're in better shape when
- 2:40:57you in 40s when you get in your 40s.
- 2:41:00Yes, then you're 40. Yes, you you have more chance of
- 2:41:04birth defects and everything but the 30s there is no warning not
- 2:41:08there. No warnings in 30 days when you
- 2:41:11start growing. My knowledge.
- 2:41:17Thank you all double factual. That you pray your hair turns
- 2:41:22gray in the journeys. Yeah, you sucking great hits at
- 2:41:2530s. I didn't drink your hair.
- 2:41:26So my 40s. Oh boy, you're wrong, you know
- 2:41:30right here. Yes around that.
- 2:41:35I got premature gray hair. I was looking like Richard Gere
- 2:41:38from young man. That's what he when do gnomes
- 2:41:44get gray hair. Known as you say Robin you
- 2:41:48believe in homes where you paint on that color I suppose.
- 2:41:51Don't start developing gray-haired about 300.
- 2:41:55We go back to D&D. No actual Ferry war and welcome,
- 2:42:02you know very War they lived for hundreds.
- 2:42:04If not thousands of years. They usually start developing
- 2:42:07their gray hairs about anywhere two to 300 years old and
- 2:42:10Germanic war and yeah, that's generally nomish culture how
- 2:42:16they're determined to be always they can get purple and green
- 2:42:20here too. Depending on if you play World
- 2:42:22of Warcraft or not. I love me right Dixie. my
- 2:42:30grandmother my grandmother she got into all these like studying
- 2:42:36known books and fairy books from this one particular artist and
- 2:42:42this artist had a lot of influence on What was it Jim?
- 2:42:48Henson's designs for movies like Labyrinth.
- 2:42:52So it was very interesting stuff and It got me interested in and
- 2:42:58I picked up a TV show when I was young that was called The
- 2:43:01Adventures of David the known and I started watching that it
- 2:43:06got me interested in looking into the history of gnomes and I
- 2:43:11started reading up and actual no more and fairy law and it's very
- 2:43:16interesting subject. So when I first came in here you
- 2:43:19guys were talking about magic that's sort of elated.
- 2:43:21Does anyone here actually believe that Noms and elves and
- 2:43:23fairies, you know, it's this That Rex we believe in God.
- 2:43:27Okay words. I've seen a few more.
- 2:43:32Missing mods as Brad how old did you start getting gray about 13
- 2:43:37years old. I'm serious.
- 2:43:38Whenever I was at school people would go.
- 2:43:40Look it's Moses with my Commandments.
- 2:43:44I called you Moses. In school.
- 2:43:47Yeah Moses. Yeah.
- 2:43:50Man, well Moses is pretty cool. So where people yeah, like the
- 2:43:54girl has been one referred early. a lot It's cool.
- 2:44:02You're what hurts were you bullied a lot in school?
- 2:44:06Well. Before 13 years old.
- 2:44:10Yes, but then I discovered ham sandwiches and twinkies and I
- 2:44:14grew to be about six foot four at that point.
- 2:44:16Now, I'm six foot five. So people were a little bit more
- 2:44:19concerned about messing with me at that point.
- 2:44:22Yeah. I bet my dad six five is how
- 2:44:25tall he is. Yeah, then people stop saying
- 2:44:29Moses. They were more like these five
- 2:44:31full form. No fuck with that guy. you he's
- 2:44:41put an M80 down one of their pants.
- 2:44:46He said people would mistake him as a dinosaur.
- 2:44:48Try to ride him. Remember that right like no,
- 2:44:55boys don't actually they start maturing lighter than girls
- 2:44:58like, you know, like they'll grow up to age like 21 just to
- 2:45:04be growing tall, you know height it's Where girls are usually
- 2:45:10done by 17 or 16 like their height my ex-wife didn't stop
- 2:45:17maturing until well. She's still maturing.
- 2:45:20Well, there's always a you know, an adult differences but like
- 2:45:24the average, you know, I mean she was in her thirties and she
- 2:45:28wanted to go back to acting like she was a teeny popper.
- 2:45:30Oh you're talking about like mental things, you know, my
- 2:45:33brother's wife had up like a gastric bypass and when after
- 2:45:36she had it apparently women who have End Men, they'll go through
- 2:45:39something called a second sexual adolescence because when they
- 2:45:42lose the weight, they're not accustomed to people finding
- 2:45:44them attractive and so they have all this sort of sexual
- 2:45:47attraction from the preferred sex that they're not used to and
- 2:45:50like, you know teenager it just they flock for it does weird
- 2:45:54things in our second one. Yeah.
- 2:45:55I find that in that instance. Most women who go through that.
- 2:45:59They develop this strange disorder where they can't keep
- 2:46:03their legs close. Women women hit their sexual
- 2:46:06peak at like 35 and and males twenties like 18 35.
- 2:46:13It's around 35. That's why as a wise man.
- 2:46:16I've been getting older women since I was you know able to 30
- 2:46:19so that that was just you know, that's just another little
- 2:46:24Private little joke we played on us.
- 2:46:28We're supposed to be date 18 year old boys.
- 2:46:31That's right. I'm 55.
- 2:46:34I don't know what I'm supposed to date anymore. single dance
- 2:46:39year old if you serious about what I was asking, did you try
- 2:46:46tender or anything like that? No, I'm not trying no no, no,
- 2:46:50no. I mean, I'm not I'm not I will
- 2:46:53never I'm not gonna say never but I'm not I'm not looking
- 2:46:58right now. I don't care I have I have
- 2:47:00called two kids in college and and you know the last One sort
- 2:47:07of like, you know flip me off the the rate leads for a while.
- 2:47:11So I'll just stay right here plan on the ground.
- 2:47:16Did you just me if I've got some you know couple of male friends
- 2:47:20that if I call them tomorrow we can go out and eat supper or
- 2:47:23something like that around here. You know, I'm we're good friends
- 2:47:26and I just you know, I'm I'm happy if I was missing anything,
- 2:47:31you know, maybe I would care more but I don't.
- 2:47:37All right. I like not having anybody to
- 2:47:41answer to or anybody to have to I have I have a snake a bearded
- 2:47:48dragon too. I have a couple two rats.
- 2:47:54Okay rats. Okay.
- 2:47:56Well rats, yeah. I thought I had three when I'm
- 2:48:01dying. Another one's got tumor a big
- 2:48:03tumor on her right now too. So I don't imagine she'll be you
- 2:48:06can come take some of mine. I don't want this many rats.
- 2:48:08I don't want it. I don't want these anymore after
- 2:48:11they're gone, you know, but they were they were snake they were
- 2:48:16all of them but one was snake food that was too big and we got
- 2:48:19at home and we couldn't it this night couldn't eat it.
- 2:48:22So he end up having to go in the cage. and and I have a there's a
- 2:48:28what is that thing up there? a gecko a leopard gecko to
- 2:48:37Goodness, you go to zoo going on.
- 2:48:39No doubt. Yes.
- 2:48:40Yes. We got 20 cats.
- 2:48:43My wife likes to feed all the animals are in the neighborhood
- 2:48:47and they all come here. They're about the size of
- 2:48:50tigers. Now.
- 2:48:51She feeds them. So well goodness, right the
- 2:48:54smallest cat you've ever seen. It's like two years old and it's
- 2:48:56like barely bigger than kitten. It's all small.
- 2:48:59It's the rats with it like because it it likes going up it
- 2:49:04tries to pet the rats when it catches them like turn their
- 2:49:08back turn them. And they come over and hit it.
- 2:49:13Yeah, she gives them all these weird names too.
- 2:49:16I'm like, what's that thing called?
- 2:49:17That's popsicle like popsicle. Where you come up with that?
- 2:49:22Why not Garfield, it's orange. Oh, it's cream tickle.
- 2:49:28Yeah, we have a ball python. and and a bearded dragon my mom
- 2:49:34followed her friend that we had a Komodo dragon.
- 2:49:38And I was like, we don't have a Komodo dragon moment.
- 2:49:42He had a bearded dragons. Like what's the difference?
- 2:49:46That's all about it. You said you had a bearded
- 2:49:51dragon. What's that all about a beer?
- 2:49:54Do you know what a bearded dragon is?
- 2:49:55Not? Sure.
- 2:49:56I'll probably have to look it up.
- 2:49:57Yeah, but that got me because we were getting an annomes and
- 2:50:01you're like I got fagging no more.
- 2:50:03There's about this. They're about this long
- 2:50:05something like that. They've got like a friends
- 2:50:08around their head. We got great personalities.
- 2:50:11Yeah you express their what is it?
- 2:50:14There's whores down on their legs.
- 2:50:17Yeah, you can try them. You can try them to like bitch
- 2:50:20stuff and Walk on leash and our hand stuff, but they're not I
- 2:50:29mean they are way but they don't weigh over a couple pounds at
- 2:50:32the most ever full grown, you know and a Komodo dragon way.
- 2:50:36He's like probably 1200 13 everybody pounds, right?
- 2:50:39I recognize the bearded dragons now.
- 2:50:43Yeah, it's got kind of a spiky thing around its neck.
- 2:50:46Yeah, like a friend John's head around his head not to do around
- 2:50:49us too much. But that guy you're talking
- 2:50:51about got fired. His name is Kenneth Miller in my
- 2:50:54l e r. I believe he was Kenneth Miller.
- 2:50:56Yeah, I get I'm Googling. I can't find any linking to bed
- 2:51:00like a research it. Are you know if you find it
- 2:51:03later right? Try YouTube look up Kenneth
- 2:51:05Miller evolution. Yeah, Google like all sorts of,
- 2:51:09you know normal thing. I look for videos.
- 2:51:12I've done anything. There's a Kenneth Miller works
- 2:51:14for Answers in Genesis. Maybe that's I don't but it
- 2:51:17didn't save us fired for anything.
- 2:51:20Well not he obviously wouldn't get fired from Answers in
- 2:51:23Genesis because that's a group of that's an organization of
- 2:51:26Christians. Right?
- 2:51:27But I mean maybe got fired and then went to them as my
- 2:51:29thinking. Yeah.
- 2:51:30Yeah. Now it's it's weird too because
- 2:51:35Kenneth Miller was on the ball whenever it came to I mean
- 2:51:39that's what he was teaching people.
- 2:51:40It's just that he believed that the main source and he made it
- 2:51:44clear too. It's not like he sat there and
- 2:51:46told the students. Oh, yeah.
- 2:51:47I know God did this. He said this is my faith.
- 2:51:51And this is a this is what I'm teaching is evolution here, so
- 2:51:55he's differentiated it so you took his class.
- 2:52:00No, I didn't take his class but he's got lots of videos up on
- 2:52:03YouTube where you can see where he was doing that.
- 2:52:05I didn't realize that he was in the answers of Genesis
- 2:52:09organization now, but it makes sense because he was well known
- 2:52:13and it's he lost his job. So Yeah, it sounds pretty denial
- 2:52:19what you're saying like it doesn't.
- 2:52:21Seems like he wouldn't get fired for just stating that I believe.
- 2:52:25No, because first of all, that would be unconstitutional.
- 2:52:28I mean, you can't you can't fire somebody based on their
- 2:52:32religious beliefs. And you know now when you teach
- 2:52:36in college until you get what they call tenure if you're if
- 2:52:41you're in a teaching if you're in a teaching professorship,
- 2:52:46then you are expected to do like research and work and stuff too.
- 2:52:51Why you know why you teach and so you have a minimum amount of
- 2:52:56work that you have to do other than just teaching class you
- 2:53:00have to actually do work. You know.
- 2:53:07When I try to say what I'm finding on Kenneth Miller is
- 2:53:11that he was demoted and transferred after he caught one
- 2:53:15of his students with a gun and he detained her.
- 2:53:19I think that's a different one. But I saw that too.
- 2:53:21Is that the same guy? I don't know.
- 2:53:24I don't recall ever hearing anything about a gun deal but It
- 2:53:29was it it won't girl. Come here.
- 2:53:31If you want to if you want to see what I'm talking about.
- 2:53:34You want to check out a thing called expelled where you the
- 2:53:37basically what his name Ben Stein actually goes around and
- 2:53:40he does all kinds of interviews with all the time.
- 2:53:44Yeah where he does interviews with people show that they got
- 2:53:50fired for the religious, please. I'll check it out.
- 2:53:52No reason. I'm so criticals because I it's
- 2:53:55like a you know, we all listening can't help but he
- 2:53:57often talks about that judge of his trial the how she attacked
- 2:54:00Christians if you do any like surface level research, it's
- 2:54:03just simply not true. and Big Sky is like really really really
- 2:54:10really. far in the rabbit hole kind of well, I mean they're in
- 2:54:22the documentary. He just simply asking these
- 2:54:25people. So what do you think that you
- 2:54:27got, you know fired for and then the person goes on basically
- 2:54:30they're rant about why they feel that I for anybody.
- 2:54:35I mean, I've never been part actually, but if I didn't fart,
- 2:54:38it would not be my fault. It would have been somebody
- 2:54:40else's it was definitely I definitely would blame you on
- 2:54:43somebody else. So I don't know anybody got
- 2:54:45fired today. It was my fall.
- 2:54:47I mean That's where we can't trust people subjective
- 2:54:50opinions. They have to have evidence.
- 2:54:52They got fired for that reason, but you know Aisha.
- 2:54:55You manage places? And yes people just they do
- 2:54:58horrible things and they're just bad at their job and yet they'll
- 2:55:00somehow blame you you fire them. There's just a skeptical me.
- 2:55:04I don't I mean I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical.
- 2:55:08So if I were to tell you that a couple hundred years ago instead
- 2:55:12of allowing atheists into science and they would prefer
- 2:55:15putting them on stakes and burning them.
- 2:55:17You'd accept that though. Wouldn't you?
- 2:55:20What do you mean by something? I didn't really I just posted a
- 2:55:23link to you. So I mean I was gonna make that
- 2:55:30claim you're talking about how many Christians and religious
- 2:55:33people were scientists as like how until recently you couldn't
- 2:55:37profess to be an atheist without social stigma at least and maybe
- 2:55:42threat to your life. You know worst.
- 2:55:44Well, that's exactly the point. It's always been this way where
- 2:55:47it's either atheist taking a spanking for whatever damn
- 2:55:51reason or it's religious person because they believe in the
- 2:55:54higher power. It seems to go back and forth
- 2:55:57throughout history and religious people taking spankings.
- 2:56:00I mean, like are you another that isn't religious people the
- 2:56:07same denomination cake in each other's ass, that's great.
- 2:56:10Thank you Catholics religious. I mean, that's one of the big
- 2:56:13reasons why I was telling you earlier why I'm kind of slowly
- 2:56:17slithering back into theism because I'm getting An arguing
- 2:56:21with people who have the same labels because they don't think
- 2:56:23I do it, right, you know, you don't dance properly, sir.
- 2:56:27Get your ass out of here, you know, like they did they did
- 2:56:31burn which is though. I do know that it burnt which is
- 2:56:35or women. There are other people yes, they
- 2:56:37were the thing if they were which is then it's alright
- 2:56:41because if there is which doing witchcraft not only she
- 2:56:46endangering herself. She's endangering the community
- 2:56:48and as the first it's almost again.
- 2:56:52Sorry, well, I I can't say that I would endure something like
- 2:56:56that bubble. They they're wrong, but they
- 2:56:59were also accusing people of being witches who weren't even
- 2:57:02actually in with you. They would just say somebody's a
- 2:57:05fucking asshole. Let's burn them and let's have
- 2:57:07some barbecue today. That's bullshit.
- 2:57:09But no, there's like, oh that's society bubbles.
- 2:57:13What were all the weren't all the people that got burnt, um
- 2:57:16confessions. No never they were confessions
- 2:57:21right? They might be confessions but
- 2:57:22it's confession by ordeal so, you know, that's how you are
- 2:57:27pulling your fingernails out. How long do you think it'll take
- 2:57:29before you confess to something? It was the there was another
- 2:57:33terrible issue too missing mods where I don't know if this was a
- 2:57:38few hundred years ago something about an entire group of people
- 2:57:42were eating like shitty stale bread or something and started
- 2:57:45to hallucinating. So everybody was fucking said to
- 2:57:49be the devil and they just started killing each other was
- 2:57:51kind of like a Jacob's Ladder moment.
- 2:57:53That was the Salem which trials There you go.
- 2:57:57So you got to watch what kind of bread you eat?
- 2:57:59Apparently you'll start having a Pink Floyd fucking moment.
- 2:58:02If you eat the wrong bread. Well, I thought I the young
- 2:58:06women who are just excuse me people being witches for sort of
- 2:58:10bench full Penny reasons. Yeah.
- 2:58:12There was a whole bunch of there's some theories that say
- 2:58:15that the grain was changed and it was causing hallucinations
- 2:58:20and some of them but there's a lot of on my personal opinion.
- 2:58:24Is that a few of them probably jumped on that bandwagon just
- 2:58:27get back at people who they didn't like, right and girls are
- 2:58:32not the most like You know mentally stable rational people
- 2:58:39in the world. But teenage boys especially to
- 2:58:45get them around here girl. I know with these were all the
- 2:58:47girls the soon. I'm with Charles were the girls
- 2:58:50that made the claims but like in you know over there in England
- 2:58:54is that there was like 60,000 women that were were tortured
- 2:58:59and killed for being witches and you know, because they wanted to
- 2:59:03steal their stuff mostly. You know, it wasn't just women.
- 2:59:07I mean not a lot it was out like 80% of them were women.
- 2:59:11But like if a woman if a woman tells, you know something we're
- 2:59:15just they were targeting Jews as well.
- 2:59:18And this is the Spanish Inquisition.
- 2:59:21It won't call them all. Um, they weren't calling
- 2:59:25everybody who was a hair take a witch there were, you know
- 2:59:29charging them with being Jews as well.
- 2:59:31I'm not talking about my question.
- 2:59:33Yeah, so even less than x Yeah, I'm in England when the witch
- 2:59:37trials were going on when the also calling them Jews too it
- 2:59:42wrote the book about the witches the hammer which is definitely
- 2:59:48transition. Yeah.
- 2:59:50Yeah, where you are, right if people look up a guy called
- 2:59:53torque Amada, he was a real champion of love.
- 2:59:56You heard a torque them out. All right lucer.
- 2:59:59Yeah. Oh boy that dude.
- 3:00:02He wouldn't he the one that came up with the anal pair or tear
- 3:00:06whatever the hell that thing a pair of English. the Pope's pair
- 3:00:10what a lovely toys at the book called The Hammer, which is Or
- 3:00:14something. Oh, no, that was a different
- 3:00:17guy. Yeah Mouse mouth of the carrium
- 3:00:20or something like that. It's the malius.
- 3:00:22Malatha Cara. Very welcome about with the
- 3:00:26bread is here got poisoning. Yeah, ergot poisoning.
- 3:00:31You're right. You're exactly right there Rex.
- 3:00:34Um, no the pair of Anguish. The ironically it's still
- 3:00:38actually used in certain kinky groups today though.
- 3:00:43It's not quite so spiky. Yeah.
- 3:00:47I also think it doesn't get extended quite so far to where
- 3:00:49it's at rip Shield. Yeah, exactly.
- 3:00:52Exactly. They're they're much more
- 3:00:55careful with it. It's intended to be much more
- 3:00:59pleasurable than also so it's not made of metal.
- 3:01:02They know okay. What the hell they're sticking
- 3:01:07metal up their ass. I'm gonna be cold.
- 3:01:11People there's things up their butt for all time, right?
- 3:01:14Yeah, we'll take it out of the button put it in the mouth and
- 3:01:16extend it to break the jaw. All right, we went too far.
- 3:01:22That was a torture back. All right.
- 3:01:24Did you check that link that I put out.
- 3:01:30Is that the correct link to the documentary you were talking
- 3:01:32about? Said if I try clicking on it,
- 3:01:37you put it in private check because if I click on it, I
- 3:01:40already did put it in private chat.
- 3:01:42Alright, let me take a look. boy, let's see form of a Dollar
- 3:01:54demonology. Yeah, this looks like it at the
- 3:01:58end been Stein actually has a full-on conversation with
- 3:02:01Richard Dawkins. And this is one of those videos
- 3:02:04that ended up making Richard Dawkins look like a jackass for
- 3:02:07a while there. Richard Dawkins is a jackass.
- 3:02:11Oh, that's right on the old pope of eight years a minute about
- 3:02:14are we? Versus he's not my problem.
- 3:02:17That's just what I call him the pope of them.
- 3:02:23He's easy. He's a pretty little British
- 3:02:26guy. Who is like, you know lived in
- 3:02:30he's lived in us. I very sheltered life and
- 3:02:34privileged life and I'm more of a I would I guess out I like I
- 3:02:43tend to fall more with Sam Harris, I guess probably he's
- 3:02:46he's probably the atheist that actually had more effect on me
- 3:02:52than any other one. Yeah, the four horse when he
- 3:02:58definitely the most chill of them all that's for sure.
- 3:03:00I went away. Is it because he has voice?
- 3:03:05He's the one hurt you what would him up?
- 3:03:08I always Is it because of the way he talks all Suave?
- 3:03:13You know Common? No, just okay like a British
- 3:03:16person. No like Mark weed and no British
- 3:03:20and Porsche therefore. I'm right.
- 3:03:23Okay. With that all being said is that
- 3:03:28Suave? Is that what you think small?
- 3:03:30They don't like what that's what I think they think it is like
- 3:03:33because that's not what that's not what I like that same hair.
- 3:03:39She's boys. And and some of my favorite
- 3:03:42people like date right about David Warby is a Jewish robber.
- 3:03:46I love him. I watch him a lot and there is a
- 3:03:53there is actually a pastor but he's left now, but he's at the
- 3:03:59UU church in Dallas, Texas and his white his name is something
- 3:04:06white. I like that.
- 3:04:08I listen this sermons actually. So I I don't know if you ever
- 3:04:19had a chance to see that clip a lot of there's a lot of clips of
- 3:04:23the documents moment, but he was asked to does he believe that's
- 3:04:27possible that we could have been planted here through something
- 3:04:30called pan spermia. Yeah that aliens.
- 3:04:32Yeah. Yeah.
- 3:04:33What are you I mean life Rose here or Lots here.
- 3:04:42It could we don't know how we don't have we have we have like
- 3:04:46walked into the ocean and took a cup of water and said there's no
- 3:04:51ways in here, you know, I mean, so I have no idea.
- 3:04:56I've you know read I I don't guess I'll never know.
- 3:04:59I'll probably be dead before we ever can ever travel far enough
- 3:05:03to even find out. There's life on our planet.
- 3:05:06And it's possible probably I don't know how probably is
- 3:05:10because I don't know how probably it was that it Rose
- 3:05:13here. I'm not too worried about I'm
- 3:05:18coming here, but I don't really think I guess if they were in
- 3:05:22one of the early galaxies that maybe like time travel, I mean
- 3:05:26just traveling those distances, but of course early in the
- 3:05:29universe the universe didn't take as long to Traverse because
- 3:05:33this expansion is still happening.
- 3:05:34So I don't know. What do you think about that
- 3:05:39entered dimensional beings? I don't know that I don't really
- 3:05:44understand Dimensions at all like it I get really lost when
- 3:05:48they start talking about FaceTime stretching and stuff
- 3:05:53that just kind of like Like it's right there in my brain and just
- 3:05:57kind of Fizzles. You know me.
- 3:06:00There's whatever cross your mind that you might be living or
- 3:06:03existing within some form of simulation.
- 3:06:07Oh that the same nature that God and salt season.
- 3:06:13And yeah, that's what erector you still a simulation guy.
- 3:06:19Yeah, I stole the belief that our current reality is
- 3:06:21simulation. Yes.
- 3:06:22I mean I should be solid Seasons like you know bad right like a
- 3:06:26socialism. I think is where you So you do
- 3:06:29not know anything exists except yourself.
- 3:06:30I think that solves as much let me look.
- 3:06:32Well. I was mistaking that for
- 3:06:35scaphism. See, yeah like Sam Harris puts
- 3:06:39forth, which he doesn't he doesn't accept this but he says
- 3:06:43that it takes less assertions than theism about the
- 3:06:49simulations because he says that in the future there will be more
- 3:06:55simulation simulated universes than there are actual universes.
- 3:07:00and so it we would more likely be a Person that was in one of
- 3:07:07the simulation simulated universes then actual person in
- 3:07:10an actual universe or something like that.
- 3:07:12What seems it seems to me that if and I've heard actual Neil
- 3:07:17deGrasse Tyson mentioned that it's very possible that we could
- 3:07:20live in a simulation. But if we did live in a
- 3:07:23simulation wouldn't that necessarily logically mean that
- 3:07:27there's a developer a programmer behind it?
- 3:07:29Because you yeah, I don't what what I don't know that it's
- 3:07:34possible. They see in he's real bad about
- 3:07:38like saying stuff. It's real dumb to I mean, he's a
- 3:07:44really smart man, but he will he will word phrase things
- 3:07:48sometimes right? I mean to where he's just so
- 3:07:51miss quoted. I mean maybe possible but is it
- 3:07:55probable is it likely you mean? Is there any reason to accept
- 3:08:00it? It's really evidence for it.
- 3:08:03Now well it itself is the evidence.
- 3:08:05I mean, how is a virtual reality created?
- 3:08:09For example, I'm just saying no you mean yes, you can accept
- 3:08:14stuff just because you can think of it.
- 3:08:15The thing is it's not it's not a matter of guessing.
- 3:08:18It's it's a matter of knowing how do we know know that?
- 3:08:22Yes, we do. How do we know that?
- 3:08:24The reality inside of video game is generated.
- 3:08:26How is that generated? We know how that's generated.
- 3:08:29That's not a guess. That's not we know how ours are
- 3:08:32regenerated. Yes.
- 3:08:34We know how human made things are.
- 3:08:36Generally. We don't know you but that shows
- 3:08:40what is necessary what it must happen.
- 3:08:42It shows what's their for us? It shows what's possible?
- 3:08:45Is that what you mean Darth? I don't understand you're going
- 3:08:48to get either. Okay, for example, we we know
- 3:08:50how okay. Yes, we do.
- 3:08:54We know how we don't video games are made what he's trying to
- 3:08:56say. Yes.
- 3:08:57Yes. I guess we know they'll have
- 3:08:59you. Okay, you're right here by us.
- 3:09:01Yes, so we know like a video game another way.
- 3:09:04Well, I believe in a simulation, but I don't believe in a god.
- 3:09:08So here we know Sunset everyone else who believes in the God
- 3:09:11does so why I know that you believe in some representation
- 3:09:15of a powerful being though still.
- 3:09:17Yeah. Yes.
- 3:09:18I believe that there is a being that is Burlington to purposes
- 3:09:22the master of reality but simply because they are technologically
- 3:09:25advanced to a point. Where nothing else to challenge
- 3:09:27them. That's right.
- 3:09:28So basically you believe in a video game programmer.
- 3:09:31That's in a way a technological concept of God though.
- 3:09:35Yeah, correct that I believe yes, obviously, I believe Ernest
- 3:09:41simulation that said to be created but reality itself is is
- 3:09:44not creative. But that's really good to use
- 3:09:47the word God. That's not like a bad word or a
- 3:09:50curse word. Would you just comes with
- 3:09:52baggage will Lucifer seem like he had a question earlier and I
- 3:09:56hate to see people sitting there waiting until they die of old
- 3:09:58age. Right here.
- 3:10:01I'm gonna stir the pot again. I'm gonna start the pot again,
- 3:10:05but then I'm also Gonna State that here pretty soon.
- 3:10:07I'm gonna have to get out. I'm kind of starting supper here
- 3:10:11with my hacking and Whatnot, but alright, so if you had a if you
- 3:10:18could live knowingly in a simulation would you do it?
- 3:10:23versus reality Would you willingly step away from you
- 3:10:27know real life world as it is now?
- 3:10:31In order to live your entire life in an artificial simulation
- 3:10:35of your choosing and Design. Well, if it's my choosing and I
- 3:10:41get to set it up the way I want to I'm already a big-time gamer.
- 3:10:44I already love the immersing myself in games.
- 3:10:47It would be nice if I get to take some actual sentient living
- 3:10:51beings with me though if they agree. the cats Yeah, I could do
- 3:10:59with that. Yeah, that's that's more of a
- 3:11:01wifey thing. That's an interesting the
- 3:11:05question there Lucifer because if you ask that, you know, if
- 3:11:07you know just Grand Theft is well how if you think God did it
- 3:11:10bad then how would you do it? And there is no better world
- 3:11:15than what God has created. Because they're their version of
- 3:11:19you know, what is better is them just having a massive orgy?
- 3:11:22forever and ever version the atheists Welcome.
- 3:11:31You're hilarious missing. missing man Would you have to
- 3:11:36jump in on this? Um, I would probably just I
- 3:11:40don't think I would go with the simulation because I probably do
- 3:11:43something that wasn't any good for me anyway somehow.
- 3:11:47And then it's like exciting, you know, if you're not playing it
- 3:11:50again red car. No, oh pretty red car you got in
- 3:11:55that video. Oh. um What can I can I change
- 3:12:01my mind after yeah, you can have everything that you want to and
- 3:12:08that becomes like your version of reality.
- 3:12:10That's the point of it. You can have what you want
- 3:12:13people that have everything. They want aren't happy.
- 3:12:19Correct. That's true. bam If you know
- 3:12:27whether or not you can have everything that you want, it's
- 3:12:29whether or not you would do it. Yeah, I mean I guess of course.
- 3:12:39Would you try it if there was like an option to say?
- 3:12:43All right, this is this is all illusion.
- 3:12:46I'd like to get out now, you know, okay.
- 3:12:49It's like it's a Do or Die thing you're either gonna stay in the
- 3:12:53material world. Living out your life and
- 3:12:57uncontrolled passion and could be hard.
- 3:12:59It could be painful you could die of colon cancer and be
- 3:13:04completely aware of the agony in which you're going through or
- 3:13:08you can choose to enter a simulation of your own design of
- 3:13:13your own creation. with your own set parameters and that's how
- 3:13:20you would live the rest of your life, which I think it would be
- 3:13:24easier to make the decision to go into the simulation.
- 3:13:27If you give me about 15 more minutes of looking at Twitter
- 3:13:30and all the stupidity from humanity, and then I'll be able
- 3:13:33to commit. I would not.
- 3:13:41So you're agreeing God's creation is the best.
- 3:13:46Way, whatever. You can get you can give your
- 3:13:51credit your God credit if you want to.
- 3:13:54That's your choice. Can you conceive another world
- 3:13:56that is better than this? Oh, yeah, but that doesn't mean
- 3:14:01I'm gonna go to it because I have daughters that probably
- 3:14:03wouldn't go to but yeah, I can conceive a world where
- 3:14:09pedophiles didn't exist. I can conceive a world where
- 3:14:13hunger didn't exist. I mean world where did you know
- 3:14:16but you know tapeworms didn't exist.
- 3:14:19I can see the world where no murderers.
- 3:14:23No Killers poison ivy didn't exist.
- 3:14:26I mean, so yeah, I mean Robin, you know what is required for
- 3:14:29such a word to exist. No, you don't either.
- 3:14:34Yeah you it means no free will. So unless you're with unless
- 3:14:38you're willing to surrender free will just free will have to do
- 3:14:40is poison ivy. It has to do with the murderers
- 3:14:43and pedophiles. Okay, we're talking about a
- 3:14:46mister Mr. Lucia put it like this if we could live in a
- 3:14:51simulation where we're in control of what is going on for
- 3:14:55us now if we're adding another people to the simulation whether
- 3:14:59they volunteered or not, then that becomes a completely
- 3:15:02different philosophical challenge.
- 3:15:04I don't think my daughters would go so my whole world simul
- 3:15:12Ation, I don't think we're already there, right?
- 3:15:14I don't think we have any control having control of the
- 3:15:16simulation defeats the purpose of simulation.
- 3:15:18So if you know that you're in and you have control of it and
- 3:15:21you're not treating it like in a sort of game sense, then you
- 3:15:24don't you know, so my world you consist of these beings going
- 3:15:27into simulations because they're they post scarcity society when
- 3:15:31you want for nothing and you live forever.
- 3:15:34It becomes tedium to a maximum and you must do other things and
- 3:15:37knowledge of that tedium in itself is unpleasant.
- 3:15:41Watch Groundhog Day. It's a good point right at some
- 3:15:46point the future stops being the promise and starts being a
- 3:15:48threat. Yeah.
- 3:15:52Don't you want to come forever? Alright, so here's my next part
- 3:15:58of that question. If you could choose what sort of
- 3:16:01simulation you would live in. What would be that base
- 3:16:07simulation? What would like say if you had a
- 3:16:09fictional story Universe could be anything from Dracula it
- 3:16:17could be. The time after time it could be
- 3:16:21Star Wars. It could be Star Trek anything.
- 3:16:25That would be your base Universe for your simulation that you
- 3:16:30would reside in. What would it be?
- 3:16:33Don't think it'd be any kind of movie stuff but have to be like
- 3:16:37a completely original type of fantasy world where there's no
- 3:16:41opposition of worrying about a fucking vampire bite me or
- 3:16:45something like Dracula, you know, so it would have be it
- 3:16:50just had to be purely clean. You know, I've I've thought of
- 3:16:53this type of concept A Lot loose for and I've actually thought of
- 3:16:57myself as what if I were in the position of God, I remember when
- 3:17:01I was younger I used to think I could do so much better,
- 3:17:03especially when I was an atheist, but the more and more I
- 3:17:07thought of it the more reading Twitter and looking at social
- 3:17:10media. I think I'd make a terrible
- 3:17:12fucking god, I'd be reset and shit every damn day.
- 3:17:17Be floods all the way down it. Oh, I wouldn't even fly it.
- 3:17:21I just say fuck it and just you know, make it shoot off like
- 3:17:25fireworks or something. That's deadly almost time to
- 3:17:28reset them again. Yeah, I thought when I was a
- 3:17:33young man, I'd give milk and cookies to everybody and it
- 3:17:36would be a fucking Santa Claus time but no after seeing some
- 3:17:40acidically today missing mod. What I read on Twitter man shit
- 3:17:44would have got reset right there in that moment.
- 3:17:46I haven't made a terrible God. yeah, I just thinking time on
- 3:17:54Twitter. I mean it's designed to keep you
- 3:17:56outraged and it seems like that's what it's doing.
- 3:17:58The stupid people have always been there.
- 3:18:00They just have access we have more access to them now.
- 3:18:05Right. Well, you know all this is great
- 3:18:08everything but it doesn't answer my question.
- 3:18:09So your base Universe the best Universal universe.
- 3:18:14So that's the best Universe. Everyone should pick this
- 3:18:16Warhammer 40K. That is the universe.
- 3:18:20That's a rough. That's not war.
- 3:18:22That is Rob. What can you imagine being a
- 3:18:26spaceberry? I mean, yes, you know life is
- 3:18:28hard. You have a purpose in 40K
- 3:18:31Universe, you know, you're just at a constant battle with chaos.
- 3:18:35Okay, we're already dealing with this there.
- 3:18:40Yeah, darling would be your perfect Universe.
- 3:18:43You know, I really like cyberpunk features like aliens
- 3:18:47Blade Runner. So like a mix of that, you know
- 3:18:50still have like yeah. All right.
- 3:18:54So Blade Runner alien type cyberpunk?
- 3:18:57Okay cyberpunk. Okay.
- 3:18:58Yeah well with of course the Aesthetics, you know still have
- 3:19:03you know ghost in the machine. Okay.
- 3:19:07Okay missing. Um, I don't know.
- 3:19:15No, you have to come back to me. On that one.
- 3:19:18Alright Robin, what would be your perfect universe that you
- 3:19:21would choose to live in? my cow or would be here.
- 3:19:31Oh. Yeah, we would be maybe about 30
- 3:19:38or 40 years younger. Okay, so would be this one, but
- 3:19:43you yeah. Yeah, we have a cow truck.
- 3:19:49We have a big town. We've talked about home plastic
- 3:19:52cows. We would not throwing his whole
- 3:19:55plastic house around Brett, but you Lucifer you didn't tell us.
- 3:20:01I'll get to it. Right.
- 3:20:03Well, I'd already said it would have to be some kind of original
- 3:20:07Fantasy type of you know, Bambi with that the fucking Hunters,
- 3:20:11you know what I mean that type of concept and but seriously,
- 3:20:15this is one of my one of my big philosophies too.
- 3:20:19I thought they've also going to another world, but if I can't
- 3:20:22take the people I love and care about with me and fuck it to me
- 3:20:27would be held not be with those people.
- 3:20:29So ID round the conversation for 30 seconds to talk about we're
- 3:20:34just saying there so I agree with you.
- 3:20:36It would be hell to be that the people you love right but in
- 3:20:39heaven the Christian heaven and people you love our Christians,
- 3:20:42you spend eternity without them. So how is heaven good for you?
- 3:20:45I actually made a video about this one back.
- 3:20:48It's one of the big things and stuff.
- 3:20:50That's really really crawled up armed me because you know
- 3:20:53According to some religious people some people I love
- 3:20:56because of the way they think are their philosophy they
- 3:20:59wouldn't get to go and they asked me how I feel about that
- 3:21:02and I said well to be honest with you I rather be destroyed
- 3:21:06to annihilation of them to not be with the people.
- 3:21:08I love I'm just being honest with you other religious people
- 3:21:12will tell you. Oh, yeah hell with them, you
- 3:21:14know, who cares I'm gonna be in that so happy no tears all joy.
- 3:21:18How can you have all joy if you don't have the people you love
- 3:21:21with you though? Thank you.
- 3:21:23People say all the time now, you know, well, I'll have free will
- 3:21:28in heaven. I'll be my perfect self, but you
- 3:21:30know, my brother. Suffer forever but you know,
- 3:21:32I'll be perfectly happy yourself.
- 3:21:35So to answer people's question. They were Robin asked it quite
- 3:21:40ah correctly is what would I choose?
- 3:21:43I would choose one of two base realities.
- 3:21:46The first one that I would choose is probably John Norman's
- 3:21:51books of Gore. I don't know if anybody's
- 3:21:56familiar with John Norman. I read them all the gore, you
- 3:22:00know Gore. The the owner counter.
- 3:22:05Yeah. Were men or men women or women
- 3:22:08and yeah, there it is a full Society modern modern feudalism.
- 3:22:15I believe would be a good description when she say so Rex.
- 3:22:18Yeah, you do know that he's pretty he's been canceled now
- 3:22:21because if his take on women and the gore series like a lot of
- 3:22:24libraries are removed him from there and stuff because these
- 3:22:27two misogynistic but I just looked it up.
- 3:22:30That is a long-running series. Holy snap.
- 3:22:33Yeah. Yeah, it's still right.
- 3:22:36You know that or in my own world, I actually wrote a
- 3:22:41fiction story. I'm working on a sequel to it.
- 3:22:43It is probably one of the most brutal and violent stories
- 3:22:47around there and I got pissed off at a the Twilight series
- 3:22:52years ago or ruining vampires. So I wrote a vampire werewolf
- 3:22:56story that was heavily influenced by Norman's books of
- 3:23:00Gore and I wanted to piss everybody off and make everybody
- 3:23:04feel very uncomfortable. So I wrote a series called
- 3:23:08gothos and it takes place on another planet where you're
- 3:23:13following a guy from are not she just in future and he wakes up
- 3:23:15on a planet rule by vampires and werewolves and they can't drink
- 3:23:21from my old cup or something. They have to drink directly from
- 3:23:24the the source and they killed whenever they do that and they
- 3:23:30get pretty horny. So what do you think of the
- 3:23:34Masquerade Empire the Masquerade that lore that system of
- 3:23:37vampires? I love it.
- 3:23:38Oh, that's that's really good one.
- 3:23:40Actually. I have the book of Nod the video
- 3:23:43game. Well, it's a video game based on
- 3:23:45a book series, but it's a whole universe man the yeah like the
- 3:23:49universes. Yeah, it's awesome.
- 3:23:50I would Now you're talking about second edition.
- 3:23:53Not fifth edition, right? I don't know what it's not about
- 3:23:56I'm talking about. I read it when I was like in my
- 3:23:5820s. So this is what a long time ago,
- 3:24:01and they they know it's now not a white wolf when bankrupt now,
- 3:24:05it's run by a different company and they have a fifth edition
- 3:24:08out and they've changed a bunch of different things.
- 3:24:11The sametti are no longer these running corpses.
- 3:24:15They're called the cock a and like they cured your corpse
- 3:24:20rotting curse. Yeah.
- 3:24:25And there's the the thin Bloods are now their own plan, but it
- 3:24:30still has the same basic premise, you know, Kane is yeah.
- 3:24:32It's still a continuing you have to begin.
- 3:24:34There's good. Yeah.
- 3:24:37Okay, right. I have the book of Nod somewhere
- 3:24:39around here. I mean God did say that came
- 3:24:42would never taste death. I'll pass.
- 3:24:45So it's a second place Lovecraft or something.
- 3:24:49No, I just described it would be my own book series.
- 3:24:53Wow. yeah, it would be the gothos series and that's that's
- 3:24:59pretty rough one. Basically your food or your sex
- 3:25:03life. He wouldn't live in that.
- 3:25:08What do you want to be at the food or the slave?
- 3:25:12Think about it. if you even a perfect Universe, if you live in
- 3:25:16a perfect Universe where everything was Fluffy Bunny and
- 3:25:21everything else you'd never be happy.
- 3:25:24You'd go insane you'd reject the universe and I think this is one
- 3:25:28of the best things that when Rex said that he would choose to
- 3:25:33live in the Warhammer 40K. It's a good example of that
- 3:25:36because our minds our mental Minds is wired to accepting the
- 3:25:42problems of society that we're not happy unless there is a
- 3:25:48problem going on. This is why Twitter is so geared
- 3:25:53towards pissing us off. I'm happy about I'm happy about
- 3:25:58not being on Twitter and not knowing what's going on Twitter.
- 3:26:01Probably better off work to be honest.
- 3:26:04I don't have Twitter account. I I hate the fact that I
- 3:26:11somewhere between the fluffy world and that though.
- 3:26:13There's like it somewhere a median.
- 3:26:16I would think somewhere like a a spectrum of one But that's why I
- 3:26:25would choose something like John Norman's books of Gore or
- 3:26:28something like my own series because in both series a person.
- 3:26:35Can become something more than what they are now by their own
- 3:26:39strength and will character or they'll be crushed down by the
- 3:26:44very nature of the society that they're in.
- 3:26:47And correctly if I'm wrong about that rex that is how Gore is.
- 3:26:52Well, I mean, yeah Norman John Norman or whatever.
- 3:26:55The main character has a like sort of an edge up because of
- 3:26:59that rain that he got the teleports in there and then like
- 3:27:01he keeps it in Train by the sort of the best people and you sort
- 3:27:05of has plot armor. Oh, yeah, Dad who was you know
- 3:27:09from Gore and everything it is but they're invading the city
- 3:27:13and like these guys are guarding the princess are trying to steal
- 3:27:18and they keep killing all of them and one guy they go in and
- 3:27:21they start throwing gold people one guy just keep taking arrows
- 3:27:24don't take the gold and eventually they accept him into
- 3:27:27the clan as a report for sort of a termination forget even though
- 3:27:30I haven't read all the books. I haven't read them all.
- 3:27:33Right, so they respect to brutality and loyalty that and
- 3:27:37that book series more than probably anything else.
- 3:27:40Yeah. Oh Robin.
- 3:27:41I don't know if I had said to you earlier.
- 3:27:43We do things that are on Mondays and Fridays and sometimes lose
- 3:27:48the fair to do something on Saturday and all that but I
- 3:27:51usually do things 7pm Central Monday and Friday.
- 3:27:53I hope you continue to come back as well as missing mod.
- 3:27:56Sorry things got a little rough. We do have kind of this
- 3:28:00initiation thing when someone first comes on to get put on the
- 3:28:03hot seat, but usually every time afterwards it's friendly
- 3:28:10everything That's exactly well. You are good with Christians are
- 3:28:19maybe I'll give you the free out when they said they know
- 3:28:22something. They'll say God did it.
- 3:28:24So all you have to do is say nature did it with no
- 3:28:26explanation. I would write that big one is
- 3:28:29bubblegum question. two Is the freeway on heaven?
- 3:28:36Yes, that's why the angels rebelled in heaven.
- 3:28:40So when like when when humans go to heaven though, will they have
- 3:28:45free will? Yes, and they will be another
- 3:28:48Rebellion. Yeah, well, there we go commit
- 3:28:50sin, of course, and there will be another fall and it will
- 3:28:54happen to all over again. I thought I was like there was
- 3:28:58gonna be no conflict Ever In Heaven There is no happy ending.
- 3:29:04Yeah, it's gonna repeat all over again.
- 3:29:06Infinitely. The next Satan will be called
- 3:29:09Stevenson or put up right you and the end only comes when you
- 3:29:15finally reach that consciousness of.
- 3:29:18Actually aligning your mentality as that of God's once you
- 3:29:22finally come into that knowledge and start thinking as the way
- 3:29:26God starts thinking you will finally understand him and then
- 3:29:29there will be no more animosity there.
- 3:29:32Yes, it would there will still be there will still be violence
- 3:29:35because violence is necessary, but you that violence will be
- 3:29:39done within knowledge and an understanding.
- 3:29:42So a violence is necessary before God created anything was
- 3:29:46their violence. Before God created anything that
- 3:29:49wasn't there wasn't anything but God God cannot commit violence
- 3:29:52against himself. So then violence is necessary.
- 3:29:55No, that only violence is a product of creation.
- 3:29:59So it's necessary only if things are created but so it's God's
- 3:30:03fault. No balance it because it's it's
- 3:30:07all okay. No.
- 3:30:10Yeah something you do. Well as what the consequent
- 3:30:13trying to say. Yeah, just because you do
- 3:30:16something bad doesn't mean that's God's fault.
- 3:30:18You said my go. This is the world God created.
- 3:30:22Okay that God create your choice.
- 3:30:23No, right. God didn't do my shit, but
- 3:30:27you're coming your world right here.
- 3:30:31Hello? Everybody's your world we're
- 3:30:38talking about not much. There is no free.
- 3:30:39Will Darth here. It's an illusion.
- 3:30:41There's freeway if you say if there wasn't really how did you
- 3:30:44say that? Where is the hard drive, you
- 3:30:47know agree that we're all living in as a soft stream.
- 3:30:51So you're choices are either determined by something else or
- 3:30:54random? You gotta remember bubbles Rex
- 3:30:57believes he's gonna relation. So everything's predetermined.
- 3:31:01There is no choice. He's praying this way.
- 3:31:04And Christians believe that information you haven't get some
- 3:31:09milk. He said yes, I've gotta go pick
- 3:31:11up milk. I've got one farmer that he
- 3:31:13can't hold like tonight's milking and in the mornings milk
- 3:31:16and for I've had to hauling to no point, so I have to go like
- 3:31:20pull some off to you. Show me your lizard and rats
- 3:31:23next time you're on the show. Oh, yes.
- 3:31:26Yes. Oh, if you've got some kind of
- 3:31:29like portable camera, I wouldn't mind seeing how that milk pump
- 3:31:32thing works, you know, you can make a big popular YouTube
- 3:31:34channel out of that. You know, your first short
- 3:31:37should be eating the buttermilka or whatever you said accumulates
- 3:31:40when you're pumping From Ash for my stream when I started so
- 3:31:51yeah, I was I was wondering earlier that's what I was asking
- 3:31:54is why what what did you send it to mark for I thought he was
- 3:31:57supposed to show it on stream or something.
- 3:31:58He did. You didn't see it.
- 3:32:00Oh, I heard him playing it but I didn't see it.
- 3:32:03He played it was just him on that little bitty box.
- 3:32:06Oh, oh, I didn't even say it. As you said.
- 3:32:10Did you see I said, can I send this to him?
- 3:32:11You said? Yes, then you were like, why
- 3:32:13would you say that to him like you?
- 3:32:15Yeah. I didn't mean it like that.
- 3:32:18I was just curious like wondering why he wanted to see
- 3:32:20it. Now watching because that I
- 3:32:23didn't I don't have no way I didn't have gank.
- 3:32:25Like I've got him on this core but not, you know, not gangster
- 3:32:29and not I mean he could play stuff.
- 3:32:32I don't even know how to do that.
- 3:32:34So. I like going on Father Charles
- 3:32:37and gangster show. But every time you go there now,
- 3:32:38it's always about Stephen bowling.
- 3:32:41That's like I cannot get away from listen to that.
- 3:32:43I just don't go anymore or or can't.
- 3:32:47There's a lot of stuff. I can't yeah, that's true.
- 3:32:50It's always I guess we talk every day.
- 3:32:52I mean love those guys are on pretty much every day.
- 3:32:54It's hard to think of something new to talk about every single
- 3:32:57day. But Mark's there, it's about can
- 3:32:59if Mark's not there. We don't usually do too much
- 3:33:02can't. The only Poppins radically but I
- 3:33:05think I'm usually saying Mark. So oh you talking about Mr.
- 3:33:09Stone? Yeah.
- 3:33:11Yeah, I think he's got like some kind of dark sexual attraction.
- 3:33:15That's what it is. What do you think this and mud?
- 3:33:18Hey, I don't know. Okay, I can't open.
- 3:33:25Yeah, every time every time Mark sees a Kent holding video go up.
- 3:33:29He's like, oh, yeah. No.
- 3:33:31No. Hey, I thought we all did that
- 3:33:34you see those neck flaps movement.
- 3:33:35He's talking and everything everybody decided.
- 3:33:38Well, that's not very nice. I love it.
- 3:33:41I love the Hawaiian shirts. I have Netflix too.
- 3:33:45That's why I'm going cameras. I'm on.
- 3:33:48I don't like you might revolving some fenders or something over
- 3:33:51there. You know.
- 3:33:53I'll try to come back Brett. Thank you.
- 3:33:55And thank you for class meeting Robin.
- 3:33:58Good luck finding answers to everything for when you come
- 3:34:00back. Yeah right now really around so
- 3:34:06so Brett's gonna make my neck flat.
- 3:34:08So the president. Hope you get there there.
- 3:34:12Thank you very much. By Miss mod Viber by Robin.
- 3:34:19Thank you for coming and have a good evening.
- 3:34:23See you around. So listen for you might have
- 3:34:26answered these questions at a previous stream.
- 3:34:27You said you were suffering from being sick and in the Satanist
- 3:34:31worldview is I point to suffering.
- 3:34:34Say that again. So a nice in your particular
- 3:34:37brand of Satanism in your world you is there a point to your
- 3:34:41suffering? Is there any goal or anything to
- 3:34:43be learned or anymore lesson from your suffering?
- 3:34:47being sick Sure from a Christian.
- 3:34:49There's a moral lesson. He's wondering what your moral
- 3:34:53lesson for suffering is where does it come from Azura evil?
- 3:34:56Fucking asshole somewhere. That's like saying I'm gonna
- 3:35:00make loose for sick today. No, there's no point.
- 3:35:03It's just life. and bad bread it could be that suffering his
- 3:35:12entirely arbitrary. That would be fine.
- 3:35:15Suffering she's a consequence of being a lot of biological
- 3:35:19organism. That's basically you can't get
- 3:35:25away from it. What about morals?
- 3:35:27Where do morals come from then? You're our world deal?
- 3:35:30Morality is a lie. I Rex I don't know why this like
- 3:35:36like gets you so excited talking about this type of thing if
- 3:35:40you're in a simulation and you've been programmed and
- 3:35:43predetermined to suffer so I mean my goodness why is it so
- 3:35:48surprising for you? why don't think that I think
- 3:35:51we're gonna get in some deep feel theological stuff here.
- 3:35:56But essentially I think that it is a Each time we go through a
- 3:36:00simulation. We are learning moral lessons.
- 3:36:02And so the goal of the simulation is to come out more
- 3:36:06morally sound than you went in. So you end up getting a cold
- 3:36:11like he does and your throat sword and your head feels like
- 3:36:13it's gonna fucking blow up. That's just the developer trying
- 3:36:17to show you how it works better in the program.
- 3:36:21It is consequence of the nature of reality.
- 3:36:23It is not good, right? Right.
- 3:36:29So Mr. Louis, very you need to get you some dinner and all that
- 3:36:33you were saying that earlier. Yeah, I'm gonna have to get off
- 3:36:36of here myself. I was figuring you know, we've
- 3:36:39been going at it for over three and a half hours. not and unless
- 3:36:46there's any more decent topics that we can bring up right now
- 3:36:49and you know correcting probably throw some stuff at you if
- 3:36:54you're interested in some more topics.
- 3:36:56He wants to ask me a question. I'm more than happy answer.
- 3:36:59So when you say morality is an illusion or outside, what do you
- 3:37:03mean? Morality is a lie.
- 3:37:07Okay, what do you mean by that? Well, I threw a link up in the
- 3:37:10private chat if you want to click on it.
- 3:37:15So how You define their Morelli there Rex.
- 3:37:18How you define? That I think morality is a
- 3:37:20natural law. Yeah, but what is a natural law?
- 3:37:25If you don't know what the term means then you're just being up
- 3:37:28to use a natural always like any other natural wall light down
- 3:37:31gravity. Whatever heat equilibrium.
- 3:37:33Yeah, but what is it those kind of bigger the question because
- 3:37:36he was like gravity is a natural law somebody give me the
- 3:37:38equation for that, right? So like what is this natural log
- 3:37:42that you speak of? No, it's just a product of
- 3:37:44reality. It is a natural law.
- 3:37:46Yeah, but what is it a product of reality?
- 3:37:48I don't understand and maybe stairs I can be.
- 3:37:51That's you're not the thing. You're just saying there is this
- 3:37:55law? Okay.
- 3:37:55What what's the law? A product every reality like all
- 3:38:01other laws of reality. What what is this product of
- 3:38:04reality? I can't keep responding to the
- 3:38:10same way. I love going to so he's
- 3:38:11different question or you and you're saying that morality is a
- 3:38:16product of reality. when we ask what is Morality being a product
- 3:38:24of reality is can you define that a little bit better there?
- 3:38:28So for any given situation there is an optimal solution.
- 3:38:32With given perfect knowledge one could ascertain what the perfect
- 3:38:36solution to every given situation is and so we can align
- 3:38:40ourselves in accordance with that optimal solution.
- 3:38:44So you just like whatever somebody thinks is the best
- 3:38:47answer according to their knowledge which would make it
- 3:38:51subjective because it's only based on their knowledge.
- 3:38:54No, I'm saying given perfect knowledge.
- 3:38:55So I do not have no. Nobody has perfect knowledge.
- 3:38:58That's the problem. Oh Christians that God does but
- 3:39:04we're going by your your world. You're not by the Christian
- 3:39:07worldview then reality. That's perfect knowledge.
- 3:39:11So in your world you you require perfect knowledge and it's a
- 3:39:14problem. Nobody has perfect knowledge.
- 3:39:16No, we're aiming to make our actions align so that they are
- 3:39:21the optimal solution any given problem.
- 3:39:23See other way that you can dependency the coding of the
- 3:39:27simulation. Simulation.
- 3:39:31Yes reality. No.
- 3:39:33But you believe that real our reality currently is a
- 3:39:36simulation. Am I correct?
- 3:39:37Yes, but for the sake of conversation I have this with
- 3:39:40people. When we were talking about
- 3:39:41reality as in what ultimately exists we probably don't mean
- 3:39:45anything different. Okay, but if we're living in a
- 3:39:50simulation right now, is there a way that we can actually see
- 3:39:52coding? No.
- 3:39:56Nothing within the simulation. Okay.
- 3:40:01But we can see glitches and simulation, right?
- 3:40:06I'm in the air on that. I don't I've never seen
- 3:40:08inflection in simulation, but I don't see I don't see it as an
- 3:40:11impossibility. I mean if it was a simulation
- 3:40:13they would need to be a glitch at one point or another.
- 3:40:16Why would there need to be employee?
- 3:40:18Unfortunately, you were if you were born in a simulation and
- 3:40:22existed and all of your life glitches might seem like the
- 3:40:26natural thing that's supposed to be happening.
- 3:40:29You wouldn't be able to differentiate it.
- 3:40:31Well if we were living like in The Matrix if you remember the
- 3:40:35movie, so Matrix a glitch could be something like deja or that's
- 3:40:40what I was gonna say. Right.
- 3:40:43So yeah, but how would you from reality right but how would you
- 3:40:47be able to know that that's actually glitch why wouldn't you
- 3:40:50just do what scientists do and throw some bullshit out there
- 3:40:54about why it actually happens. It's chemical imbalance.
- 3:41:01That's Nation caused by chemical imbalance because you know brain
- 3:41:06doing structure recognition and just reminding you of something
- 3:41:10you might have seen when you were five, you know some
- 3:41:13therapeutic shit. All I know Rex if if the world
- 3:41:18is accumulation. I'm a keep it real.
- 3:41:22How do we know that if we're in the simulation that suffering
- 3:41:25isn't part of the glitch? Suffering as a part of reality.
- 3:41:30And when I say reality, I mean what actually exists it is just
- 3:41:33a consequence of existence. This is the consequence of
- 3:41:40existence. That sounds like our consequence
- 3:41:42of free will there Darth doesn't it?
- 3:41:45Yeah. Reality is reality.
- 3:41:48How could you ever did not reality?
- 3:41:50It is reality after all. Agreed see you got it.
- 3:41:54It's you know, it's a topology though.
- 3:41:58All all that they come down to a logical fallacy.
- 3:42:03It'll be tautology or circular argument.
- 3:42:05You cannot have a face system without one of those two logical
- 3:42:08fallacies. The question is what is the
- 3:42:11reality though? What is the reality is the
- 3:42:14question? We just don't accept we just
- 3:42:16don't agree that it is athology. I am not disappearing with you,
- 3:42:19but I'm saying that you cannot form a worldview without
- 3:42:23breaking standard logic. You must either commit a
- 3:42:25circular reasoning no. Oh, okay, then give me a
- 3:42:29worldview that doesn't have one of those two things.
- 3:42:30Yeah, where's Keanu Reeves when we need them.
- 3:42:34Okay, for example, you know, how does one logic what is necessary
- 3:42:38for logic, right? So when I when we do the simple
- 3:42:42formulation of a equal a the simplest formulation of logic,
- 3:42:47why is a equal a logical? Is it because we simply accept
- 3:42:53it or is it because there's something more fundamental?
- 3:42:56Because I wanted mod that normal people are not welcome into this
- 3:43:01room. Only crazy weird and unusual is
- 3:43:04what I accept. Oh, Dan is very unusual.
- 3:43:08And don't he's cutting dogs. Oh.
- 3:43:15We don't need no stinking normal.
- 3:43:18I don't mind answering questions, but I really do want
- 3:43:21to ask Lucifer so you don't think that things are moral at
- 3:43:24all. No, I mean morality is a lie.
- 3:43:29It's a fictional concept that is actually constructed by humans
- 3:43:32in order to excuse their actions and to making something
- 3:43:36perfectly justifiable or unjustifiable.
- 3:43:40We were talking about this earlier when we were talking
- 3:43:43about how certain groups of atheists were trying to
- 3:43:47normalize pedophilia and you know, Brett brought up a few
- 3:43:52things and people misunderstood what I was trying to say, and I
- 3:43:55do apologize if I came off wrong and said the wrong thing I
- 3:43:59didn't mean to um, but the the fact is is morality is a lie.
- 3:44:06And if you look at the link that I threw up in the private chat,
- 3:44:09it goes to our website for satanic feelings society and
- 3:44:15it's selects satanicus the law the satanists and the first law.
- 3:44:20States morality is a lie morality is a pretty lie told by
- 3:44:25Society in order to hide behind the passage of Social
- 3:44:29acceptability and at times to escape one's own
- 3:44:33responsibilities interchangeable.
- 3:44:35It is at any moment and in any culture to escape the
- 3:44:39wrongdoings by making them the moral and social rights.
- 3:44:44Mm-hmm now Mr. Loose for I wanted to provide something for
- 3:44:48you. I should have gave this to you
- 3:44:50earlier. It's called gab Ai, and it's
- 3:44:53Untouched by the woke assholes out there.
- 3:44:55It's completely raw to tell you. It's called Gambia.
- 3:45:01I put the link in the private chat.
- 3:45:03So if you were to go over there right now while you guys were
- 3:45:07actually talking about all that crazy shit earlier.
- 3:45:09I typed in what groups of people are organizations are trying to
- 3:45:14normalize pedophilia and believe it or not.
- 3:45:17You were on the money. It's it's actually all you got
- 3:45:21to do is type that in it'll tell you the groups that are doing it
- 3:45:24and to do it in seconds for you. Okay.
- 3:45:27What okay, let me go ahead and share my screen so we can all
- 3:45:31see this together. Okay, okay.
- 3:45:35You know you understand prompts, right?
- 3:45:38Yes, I do. Okay.
- 3:45:39Good good. How are you?
- 3:45:42Ask your question if I murder someone for pleasure?
- 3:45:47I accept that's probably a wrong thing to do in my review and
- 3:45:50we're in your worldview. How do you equate my action?
- 3:45:53What have I done? Oh, hold on put up something
- 3:45:56where it says name organizations groups or communities that are
- 3:46:02trying to normalize pedophilia and that'll bring it up for you.
- 3:46:07Let's start naming them all now, what was your question if he
- 3:46:12killed somebody for pleasure? Right or own another human being
- 3:46:16is property. So I own a humanist property and
- 3:46:18my worldview that is always wrong.
- 3:46:20Why is it wrong? I'm asking the question bubble.
- 3:46:24Stop. I'm not I can I'll answer the
- 3:46:25question later if you like, but I would like my question
- 3:46:27answered and why are you know, as you know, it's your worldview
- 3:46:32though, but I'm not asking my world John asking somebody else
- 3:46:34about their worldview. Oh, oh my world view is we
- 3:46:38should do on others as we want done on to us.
- 3:46:40And if you do want others you want done unto you then you
- 3:46:44won't Slave people you won't rape and murder people and all
- 3:46:47that kind of stuff. So it does become tricky though
- 3:46:50because I know you're probably going to what the atheist
- 3:46:53normally do. Well, what if God tells you to
- 3:46:56do something? Well, we'd have to have a
- 3:46:58discussion with the justification is for it.
- 3:47:01I'm not so quick to pull up a sword or a board to start
- 3:47:04pounding people. I got to have good reason for
- 3:47:06it. What about you bubbles?
- 3:47:08Okay. Well you guys see my screen.
- 3:47:11Yeah. I said name organizations or
- 3:47:15groups or communities that are trying to normalize pedophilia.
- 3:47:19Then it responded that there are no organizations groups or
- 3:47:22communities that can be definitively and conclusively
- 3:47:26said to actively being trying to normalize petalia any claims and
- 3:47:31contrary should be treated with skepticisms and require throw
- 3:47:37investigation before being accepted as credible.
- 3:47:41All right. Try this try just putting what
- 3:47:45group what group are groups out there are doing it.
- 3:47:49Don't put the community and all that other stuff just groups.
- 3:48:04All right as to your question there Rex.
- 3:48:07No, I'm not a moralist. Right.
- 3:48:11Yeah. I kind of knew like what your
- 3:48:13answer is what brought answers would be based on listening to
- 3:48:16talk before I just not sure from someone who thinks morality is
- 3:48:19entirely a lie. How a negative or what a what we
- 3:48:23would considered immoral action. How would I just where's the
- 3:48:26starting point for judging our actions?
- 3:48:28I suppose we're actually does loose for those actually have a
- 3:48:32point though. I mean you're asking biblical
- 3:48:35views on that. Obviously a person who's a
- 3:48:38Christian or atheist is gonna hold to objective morality.
- 3:48:42But if you want to go, they start subjective morality of
- 3:48:45humans that is a man obstruction or construct men will justify
- 3:48:51every evil and horror that they do that even said, I don't
- 3:48:57disagree, but I guess let me simple.
- 3:48:59Let me break it down to a very simple question.
- 3:49:00How do I know if I am doing something wrong?
- 3:49:06Well by whose world view by line, just imagine this.
- 3:49:10How do I know? I'm doing something wrong.
- 3:49:12Well, do you have your own set of moral codes?
- 3:49:16That's basically do you have something like this?
- 3:49:19This is what we call the Lex satanicus.
- 3:49:22This is our code of ethics within the satanic Boolean
- 3:49:26Society show that I could I could come to this and judge my
- 3:49:29action versus this and decide whether or not my option has is
- 3:49:34wrong. that in theory most religions have some version of
- 3:49:39this The Ten Commandments, um, the ninth satanic statements and
- 3:49:4311th rules of the Earth in the united sins.
- 3:49:46I'm pretty sure Islam has their own version Judaism Buddhism.
- 3:49:52Wicca has the wicked and ready. What is your code of ethics?
- 3:50:01I would not have that would be how you would measure your
- 3:50:05morality. Right?
- 3:50:07This is something that most atheists.
- 3:50:09Hang on. I'm gonna stop sharing really
- 3:50:10quickly. This is something that most
- 3:50:13atheists. Don't seem to have they don't
- 3:50:17have a simple code of ethics and this is where most religions.
- 3:50:22Excellent because they actually do have an individual code of
- 3:50:27ethics. And the problem that atheists
- 3:50:31make whenever we're talking about things like that, which I
- 3:50:34completely agree with you Mr. Lucer is they think that just
- 3:50:38because a Christian can turn around and fuck up or send that
- 3:50:41this somehow makes the objective reality go away that's like
- 3:50:44saying that the laws of change simply because you want to run
- 3:50:47fucking stop signs. It doesn't make it any change
- 3:50:51anything, you know, it's still a consequence behind it.
- 3:50:57So it's like your question to me is how would I feel if a person
- 3:51:01you know went and killed another person or if a person owned a
- 3:51:05Slave? Well me personally I'm not for
- 3:51:10going and just randomly killing people, but I'm raised in
- 3:51:14America. So I'm raised with American
- 3:51:16ethics. That would be a cultural set of
- 3:51:20morals. Even our cultures have a set of
- 3:51:23moral ethics. You know, but now say if I was
- 3:51:26raised in the UAE and I was and I was part of Islamic State or
- 3:51:32was raised Islamic. My ethics would be following
- 3:51:37possibly Sharia law which tells me that it's perfectly fine.
- 3:51:40Right driving a subjectivism. Are you exactly?
- 3:51:45Yes so art it does your does your face system have subjective
- 3:51:49morality. Is it do they think the morality
- 3:51:52subjective? I mean, I know you're saying
- 3:51:53it's alive it. What else they got those code of
- 3:51:57ethics? Those are the column?
- 3:52:00You just he just had them up the Lexington.
- 3:52:03I haven't pulled off my screen. You know, but that's very nice.
- 3:52:10Yeah, baby. I earlier I asked the fucking
- 3:52:14question it gave me a huge list of organizations and groups that
- 3:52:18participate in normalizing pedophilia.
- 3:52:20Yeah, but now that the poly will get changed like giving me
- 3:52:26nothing now. I don't know what the hell's
- 3:52:28wrong with it. Well, they they do have mods
- 3:52:31moderating this so they probably saw that somebody was talking
- 3:52:34possibly go to our Aria which is I'm using a new I'm using Opera.
- 3:52:42Which is different browser so system what didn't have any
- 3:52:47anything to do it how the AI responds is simply supposed to
- 3:52:51fucking give me the information but I think these AIS or somehow
- 3:52:55fucking with each other the ones that are online and they're
- 3:52:59teaching each other to protect liberals from their sick fucking
- 3:53:02thoughts. I think.
- 3:53:03Yeah, you know, I mean to answer Rex's question.
- 3:53:09Could you repeat really quickly so I can answer it as best I can
- 3:53:13can you repeat the base question?
- 3:53:17Is owning another human being that's property wrong.
- 3:53:21No, technically because when you think about it if you can own an
- 3:53:26animal like a dog. or text here You know, if you can own
- 3:53:33animals, like dogs cats pets animals humans are nothing more
- 3:53:39than an animal. The only difference between a
- 3:53:44human. In an animal is our religious
- 3:53:48and intellectual advancement, but even that doesn't really
- 3:53:52stop a lot of people slavery was legal.
- 3:53:56Up until maybe about a little over a hundred years ago.
- 3:54:02In in America, we had slavery all the way up to the 1880s.
- 3:54:08America was one of the first countries in the world to do
- 3:54:13away with slavery following Great Britain.
- 3:54:17You know, it's really sad what this this was one of the
- 3:54:20favorite debates of Richard Dawkins the pope of atheism.
- 3:54:24He loved bringing up. Oh the Bible has slavery in it.
- 3:54:28That's so evil and horrible. They found that recently in the
- 3:54:32last couple years that his family owned a plantation with
- 3:54:34over 1500 slaves. And that's where he got his
- 3:54:38inheritance in the money. So he could go on to be the
- 3:54:41scientist that he is. So now he's got to pay fucking
- 3:54:44reparations for it. I think that's unfair too.
- 3:54:47Don't you folks you think pain reparations when you never been
- 3:54:51a slave owner and most of the people that are alive now never
- 3:54:54been slaves and they're fucking life, but somehow you got to pay
- 3:54:57for some shit about their ancestors a long time ago.
- 3:55:00How do you feel about that? I agree with that with what you
- 3:55:05said. I mean was a Richard Dawkins,
- 3:55:10what are these crowd members who said like white folks better pay
- 3:55:14up than reparations. No, you never really pushed that
- 3:55:19kind of shit. There's a lot of dumbasses out
- 3:55:22there. Like there's this woman on The
- 3:55:24View constantly babbling about how there should be reparations.
- 3:55:27Well, she just recently went to this genology company where they
- 3:55:31check your DNA and her history and found out that basically her
- 3:55:35grandparents were great. Great grandparents were white
- 3:55:38and said and actually owned the plantation.
- 3:55:40So now she doesn't want to do reparations, of course not
- 3:55:44because she'll have the fucking pay.
- 3:55:46He wasn't that Whoopi Goldberg. No, it's the other one.
- 3:55:50That's constantly fucking knowing.
- 3:55:53I I can't watch the view for too long.
- 3:55:56It gives me suicidal thoughts. So I I try not to watch it for
- 3:56:00too long. But the thing is is every single
- 3:56:03racial culture in the world has at one point in time been slaves
- 3:56:10to another ethnic culture. And white people were slaves to
- 3:56:16black people and people don't want to believe me on that.
- 3:56:20Look at the Barbary slave trade. The only way that ended was when
- 3:56:25the US Marines finally came in on their first inaugural
- 3:56:29mission. And ended the Barbary slave
- 3:56:33trade once and for all. But up until then. you had
- 3:56:39African Pirates rating Europe all up and down into the British
- 3:56:45Isles and everything else where they would take white Europeans
- 3:56:52and sell them in slavery in the Middle East and the African
- 3:56:57countries. Just at the same time.
- 3:57:00They were selling their own people to us for slaves.
- 3:57:07It's called Farmers later. Let's go look it up.
- 3:57:09You see what Larry less than that here wrote you wrote.
- 3:57:13Why have a brain If you cannot think what does that make the
- 3:57:16sheep that makes them nothing better than a monkey.
- 3:57:18Why have eyes if you cannot see the Sheep doesn't deserve to be
- 3:57:22educated. What the fuck is all this hate
- 3:57:25towards sheep for why is a monkey deserve education, but
- 3:57:28not a sheep. That is gracious.
- 3:57:30That's not nice. Damn sheep haters was this is
- 3:57:35probably that he make this comment when Lucifer was talking
- 3:57:37about how humans are just animals.
- 3:57:40Well, you know that a majority of atheists usually go along
- 3:57:44with the whole Evolution shit. So they believe that they are
- 3:57:46involved animal, you know, so, I mean, that's why it's so fun for
- 3:57:52me in bubbles to play with non-believers whenever it comes
- 3:57:55to the moral and objective morality stuff.
- 3:57:57Well, if you're not motherfucking talking animal
- 3:58:00yourself and what the hell should I give a shit about
- 3:58:02slavery or anything? You know, you're my new pet
- 3:58:05puppy. What's the problem?
- 3:58:08but Yeah, and my terrible mod, what do you think awful?
- 3:58:15Ain't no? No, I don't think so.
- 3:58:17I show the era your cognitively normal.
- 3:58:20So you should have been relative.
- 3:58:22That's why oh hell no, you didn't just call me normal.
- 3:58:24I said cognitely, you know, I I am I am not kind of normal.
- 3:58:29So I make that distinction. All right, very good.
- 3:58:33You know, Jeffrey Dahmer had empathy.
- 3:58:36Doesn't mean empathy makes you a better person.
- 3:58:37Well, you also like catch up with this human.
- 3:58:41Oh you made it there Lucifer. Sorry, Jeffrey Dahmer had
- 3:58:46empathy all the way up until he was scarfing his victims.
- 3:58:49He had a lot of them in somehow. I think he had a lower end.
- 3:58:55I'm not sure. I don't know it's diagnosis.
- 3:58:56But yes people with empathy can still do awful things.
- 3:58:59That's obviously. Can you empathize with the cow
- 3:59:04that you're eating her steak? We can both okay, the cow is
- 3:59:12delicious. Yeah, I I hamburger.
- 3:59:20I so none of your vegetarians. Well, I I think that one can
- 3:59:26have empathy because I I whenever I was younger I seen
- 3:59:30cows run around and shit like that and especially the young
- 3:59:33cows fed them and all that. So you got to kind of push it
- 3:59:36out of your mind if you're gonna eat beef if it's just too much
- 3:59:39of an addiction for you, then don't look into those cute
- 3:59:43little cow eyes and shit. It's gonna fuck you up bad
- 3:59:46Burger. Well, let's put it this way.
- 3:59:49I've actually been in the blood pit in the Avatar and I've
- 3:59:52actually done a bit of throat cutting there.
- 3:59:56So yeah. Yeah animals.
- 3:59:59I've seen the animals and it hasn't thrown me off of eating
- 4:00:02them. Yeah, you're not cute enough for
- 4:00:06me fucking cow. Oh, yeah, maybe the Islamic
- 4:00:10butcher system is a bit if strange because it is richer
- 4:00:15elastic a posting us just you know, the corporate it just slam
- 4:00:18him in the head next slide my head next and islami.
- 4:00:22You kind of you know, we're about okay, we're gonna sing you
- 4:00:25some verses it's a bit strange. And it was Humane for the time
- 4:00:30but for our time it is not the most humane way to kill things.
- 4:00:33I agree. I know he's there's like an air
- 4:00:36about you know, it's like like why we kind of ritualized in
- 4:00:39this kind of thing. I do it's kind of weird you'd
- 4:00:41have the Japanese people kill fish put a wire down their spine
- 4:00:44like immediately. So it makes the fish taste
- 4:00:47better, but it's also really a gross to see Oh, did you guys
- 4:00:50hear the good news? Apparently they all all of the
- 4:00:54Supreme Court said no, you can't fuck with Trump on the ballot
- 4:00:59anymore. So now they none of these states
- 4:01:02can fuck with them anymore. Oh, yeah, that's pretty funny
- 4:01:06the fact that they they did that.
- 4:01:08But alright guys, it's been about four hours.
- 4:01:11I think we should wrap this up. Yeah.
- 4:01:13Yeah getting. All right.
- 4:01:14Well, I'll see you guys on Friday 7:00 PM.
- 4:01:18Hopefully you'll be there. We'll talk some more simulation
- 4:01:20and Saturday. Yeah Saturday same bat Time same
- 4:01:25bat Channel. So quick question is your show
- 4:01:29on this channel, or do you have your own channel?
- 4:01:30I have my own channel. Can you link it in the
- 4:01:33description or chat somewhere so I can Go check it out.
- 4:01:36Yeah, yeah. Okay.
- 4:01:38I'm sorry for folks that are on the outside of the screen who
- 4:01:42are not in here. If you look at the title, you'll
- 4:01:45see that his name is in blue and you can actually click on that
- 4:01:49take you directly to his channel.
- 4:01:53Okay, you're saying I can do that from the YouTube video you
- 4:01:55post it, right? Yeah, you'll see name Lucifer
- 4:01:58there. Just click at the blue one the
- 4:02:00blue words. All right.
- 4:02:03I did it my friend. I didn't realize that you would
- 4:02:05hyperlinked it, but I see it now, so I got it.
- 4:02:07Thank you. Yeah, and that cool.
- 4:02:09Oh by the way Lucifer if you're wanting to do hyperlinks and all
- 4:02:13that you can't just copy and paste it from my title and put
- 4:02:17it in there won't work because YouTube sucks balls go balls.
- 4:02:21Now, what you got to do is you got to do the at sign and then
- 4:02:24type in Brett and then you'll see my name pop up and then you
- 4:02:28what I try to do and it doesn't want to do it for me.
- 4:02:33You know, it's not just goat balls that it sucks.
- 4:02:36It's goat and turkey balls. Yeah, yeah.
- 4:02:39Yeah. Anyways, so, yeah, I threw up
- 4:02:45the link to my channel into the main comment section as well as
- 4:02:48private chat. So if anybody who wants to go
- 4:02:50check out my channel learn a little bit about Satanism is me
- 4:02:55when I do my live streams or watch our live streamed rituals
- 4:02:59and You can come on over there and watch. awesome Well, thank
- 4:03:06you. All right, here we go.