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The Blackening with Nonye-Brown West · The Bechdel Cast

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  Speaker 1: On the Bechdelcast.
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  Speaker 2: The questions asked if movies have.
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  Speaker 1: Women and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
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  Speaker 1: or do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and
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  Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Jamie, Hey Caitlyn, let's play a game. It's me Jigsaw,
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  Speaker 3: but it's also me the villain from the Blackening.
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  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. I also went, oh, the Jigsaw
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  Speaker 2: parallels undeniable. I mean, I know, it's like, yeah, every
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  Speaker 2: horror movie parallel, so that's the whole point. But also
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  Speaker 2: Jigsaw specifically, you get a beautiful Jigsaw.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you know, but I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember the words from college motif, pastiche homage,
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  Speaker 2: anything like you get one of those at the end.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I yes, sorry, I just was effusive about you.
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  Speaker 3: So is that a yes, you will play a game
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  Speaker 3: with me?
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  Speaker 2: Of course I'll play a game. Of course I'll play game.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope that it is basically bar trivia. I
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  Speaker 2: love that that's the game. It's bart trivia.
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  Speaker 3: And you know me, I love a pub quiz. I
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  Speaker 3: love bar trivia. I go all the time. Yes, I
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  Speaker 3: played it by myself in Paris when I was there
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  Speaker 3: recently brag number one very what's.
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  Speaker 2: The movie very frances Ha when she goes to Paris
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  Speaker 2: and just like hangs out, just like hmm, which lay.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the time, hangs out by yourself. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: did manage to go outside and go to bar trivia. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it was because it was happening right after the comedy
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  Speaker 3: show that I just did at the same location, so
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  Speaker 3: I was like, well, there's trivia here. There was only
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  Speaker 3: like five or six teams, but I was in like
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  Speaker 3: second place at one time because there was a round
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  Speaker 3: of ten questions that were all Star Wars questions and
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  Speaker 3: I got them all right, and it really propelled me
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  Speaker 3: to the front of the group.
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  Speaker 2: You single handedly healed relations between France and the US
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  Speaker 2: and that it Yes, anyway, Welcome to the Bechdel Cast.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that was a very focused intro. We're
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  Speaker 2: doing great, we nailed it. Yeah, Welcome to the Bechdel Cast.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Jamie Loftis.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Caitlin Deronte, and this is our podcast
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  Speaker 3: where we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using
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  Speaker 3: the Bechdel test simply as a jumping off point. But Jamie,
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  Speaker 3: what is it though?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I can tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So, the Bechdel Test is a media metric created by
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  Speaker 2: queer cartoonist Alison Bechdel, often called the Bechdel Wallace Test
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  Speaker 2: because she co created it with her friend Liz Wallace.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of versions of this test. We sort of use
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  Speaker 2: it as a jumping off point for discussion because it
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  Speaker 2: was originally created as a joke for her comic dikes
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  Speaker 2: to watch out for. But the version of the test
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  Speaker 2: that we use requires at there be two characters with
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  Speaker 2: names of a marginalized gender who talked to each other
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  Speaker 2: about something other than a man for two lines of dialogue.
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  Speaker 2: Low bar to clear. A lot of movies still don't
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  Speaker 2: more movies than used to true. And there's also a
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  Speaker 2: lot of tests that have been inspired by this test,
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  Speaker 2: which I feel like is maybe more relevant to the
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  Speaker 2: conversation we're going to have today. We have a highly
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  Speaker 2: requested movie today. We've been getting requests for this movie
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  Speaker 2: since before it came out, and we were waiting for
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  Speaker 2: the right time, the right place, the right guest. That's right,
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  Speaker 2: the stars have aligned. Today we are covering the Blackening m.
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  Speaker 3: HM and our guest is a writer and comedian. You've
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  Speaker 3: seen her on NPR and Sway in the Morning. It's
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  Speaker 3: no Yea Brown West.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, welcome, thanks for having me on. Guys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thanks for being here.
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  Speaker 2: A true Boston twenty tens comedy scene reunion.
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  Speaker 3: We did it.
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  Speaker 5: Here.
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  Speaker 3: We are so good to see you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very good to see you both. It's been
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  Speaker 5: a very long time. Jamie Caitlin and I just.
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  Speaker 3: Saw Yeah, we were hanging out in New York. I've
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  Speaker 3: heard of it. No, tell me more, Noya, tell us
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  Speaker 3: about your relationship with this movie.
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  Speaker 5: I was very excited first come out because I saw
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  Speaker 5: the original sketch that Dwayne Perkins posted on his I
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  Speaker 5: think ig and YouTube everywhere. It was so funny, and
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  Speaker 5: we were friends at the time. I found like a
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember where I found. I think I was
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  Speaker 5: like messaging them and I saw this photo that they
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  Speaker 5: had sent me of us hanging out.
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  Speaker 4: So I guess we were friends, you know, and.
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  Speaker 5: So sure, the way cowedy works, yeah, you don't always remember.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I did one show with Dwayne Perkins.
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  Speaker 3: That means we're friends, right. He doesn't have any idea
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  Speaker 3: who I am, but I we know each other.
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  Speaker 2: We've all yeah, we've all chose with him, and we're
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  Speaker 2: all his close personal friends. I think it's safe to say.
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  Speaker 2: I just checked. He follows me back on Twitter, so
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  Speaker 2: we're actually really close. Oh we actually woke up next
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  Speaker 2: to each other.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, we had like face book DM.
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  Speaker 2: So that's another level. That's another level old friendship.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I couldn't wait to see it.
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  Speaker 5: So I saw it the opening weekend, and I saw
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  Speaker 5: it again and then I have Stars and I watched
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  Speaker 5: it like four times on Stars.
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  Speaker 4: Love it so much. Nice, It's one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 5: It's one of the three comedians that I know movies
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  Speaker 5: that came out last year or the year before that rocks.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, huge flex.
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  Speaker 5: Well listen, we all know people in movies and we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: that's a possibility.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even realize it could be hiring us.
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  Speaker 5: My manager has me in acting school now, and I'm like, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 5: this might happen. I'm kind of old, so we'll see
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  Speaker 5: maybe a Viola Davis in the works.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I love this. The thing I do every couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks is just like Google and it like fills right in.
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  Speaker 2: So you know that every inspiring actor does it where
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  Speaker 2: it's like actors who bloomed late. You're just and it's
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  Speaker 2: like the same ten people every time, and you're like, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's an.
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  Speaker 3: At me and add me as well someday. Nice. So
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  Speaker 3: you love the movie, You've seen it many times.
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  Speaker 4: Seen him many times. I'm a big fan. Love the humor.
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  Speaker 4: Something that I noticed right away in it is.
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  Speaker 5: That they had every type of black person represented, like
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  Speaker 5: in the humor, in honestly the casting. So like, I'm
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  Speaker 5: first generation, I'm Nigerian. They had a character for me.
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  Speaker 5: They had a character that's supposed to be of like
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  Speaker 5: the core subset or something or you know, just could
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of what I've become in my old Dade.
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  Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, I identify with a lot
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  Speaker 5: of this. But yeah, they were jokes everybody.
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  Speaker 4: It was great.
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  Speaker 5: Hell yea, even the nerdy guy. Yeah, he's a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of me too, praw nerds here. I feel like
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  Speaker 5: I say.
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  Speaker 3: That what we contain multitudes? Jamie, how about you, what's
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  Speaker 3: your relationship with the movie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is the second time I've seen it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. It was like a movie I
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  Speaker 2: was really excited for last year. Also because just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Dwayne Perkins is an amazing stand up who I've seen
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  Speaker 2: and performed with over the years, and it's just like
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  Speaker 2: so exciting, like you were just saying no yet, Like
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  Speaker 2: it's so exciting to be like, oh my god, wait
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  Speaker 2: what you can and then to see him in particular,
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  Speaker 2: because I mean, he's just like the person that I
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  Speaker 2: show up to the movie for like just seeing him
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  Speaker 2: shine and seeing him be a movie star. You're just like,
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  Speaker 2: this is so fucking cool. It was really exciting. I
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  Speaker 2: was excited to see it. I think it's a really
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  Speaker 2: funny movie. I think it's like it feels like tonally,
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  Speaker 2: it feels like a throwback, but it also has like
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  Speaker 2: new ideas that I haven't seen in horror movies before.
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  Speaker 2: It just felt like a really cool split of It
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  Speaker 2: has the feel of a nineties like horror comedy to me,
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  Speaker 2: and it also as all like but it is obviously
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  Speaker 2: very very clearly made in the modern day. I just
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  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it, and also as a big fan of
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  Speaker 2: the original sketch, like, it was really really cool. I
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  Speaker 2: think just again in a world where we are conditioned
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  Speaker 2: to feel and so often it is true that artists,
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  Speaker 2: and especially marginalized our artists are not able to like
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  Speaker 2: make their own movies through these traditional channels. But like
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  Speaker 2: here is an example of a sketch team that like
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  Speaker 2: hustled on stage I think UCB forever and then got
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  Speaker 2: like a chance to make a sketch for a couple
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth Comedy Central, and then made a huge
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  Speaker 2: movie that people love, And I just think it's amazing,
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  Speaker 2: it's really funny. I'm excited to talk about it, Kitlyn,
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  Speaker 2: what's your history?
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  Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters. I was similarly excited for
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  Speaker 3: it to come out. I was getting a lot of
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  Speaker 3: like Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Ads yeah, and trailers for.
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  Speaker 3: It, and I was like, oh, I love Dwayne Perkins.
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  Speaker 3: He's a hilarious stand up comic. As we've already said.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the Dwayne Perkins fan club, Yeah truly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it seemed something that was like just very
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  Speaker 3: up my alley because I love a horror comedy. Not
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  Speaker 3: that I'm not a fan of like pretty straight horror,
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  Speaker 3: but I seek it out probably the least of all
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  Speaker 3: the major genres. But if you add some comedy in there,
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  Speaker 3: then I'm way more likely to be on board. So
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  Speaker 3: I was very excited to see it. I saw it
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  Speaker 3: with some friends, we all enjoyed it, and then yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I've watched it a couple times since then.
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  Speaker 2: It is a very rewatchable movie for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, let's take a quick break and then we'll come
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  Speaker 3: back to recap it. We're back, and here is the recap.
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  Speaker 3: So we open on a couple Morgan and Sean played
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  Speaker 3: by Yvonne Orgie and Jay Farrow, at a cabin in
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  Speaker 3: the woods.
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  Speaker 2: This like continues the grand tradition that I feel like
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  Speaker 2: was begun maybe by Scream.
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  Speaker 3: My horror movie.
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  Speaker 2: Knowledge is not comprehensive, but like already you open the
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  Speaker 2: movie with the two kind of most famous people in
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  Speaker 2: the movie and then they die, Like it's just a
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  Speaker 2: time honored tradition. You see two famous people and you're
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  Speaker 2: just like, we're gonna lose them, We're gonna lose them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, oh, they had only the budget to
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  Speaker 3: pay them for one day.
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  Speaker 2: If they had at most a day and a half
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  Speaker 2: with these two famous people.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they make that joke in the movie too, like yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they're just like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to be someone a little too famous
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  Speaker 2: at a horror movie, you're Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So they are at this house and they're waiting for
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  Speaker 3: their other friends to arrive for a college reunion slash
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  Speaker 3: Juneteenth celebration. But right now it's night and it's spooky,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a masked person lurking outside watching them through
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  Speaker 3: the window, and they discover this game room in the house,
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  Speaker 3: and in the middle of the room is this board
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  Speaker 3: game called The Blackening, and it's this very weird, creepy
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  Speaker 3: thing where there's a face that looks like blackface minstrel
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  Speaker 3: kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, like old racist toys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, or like any cartoon that was made before the fifties,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: So that's kind of like the centerpiece of the game board.
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  Speaker 3: And out of curiosity, they start playing. And the first
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  Speaker 3: question is name a black character who survives in a
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  Speaker 3: horror movie. Answer correctly, or you die, and they kind
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  Speaker 3: of brush it off. They're not taking it seriously and
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  Speaker 3: they don't answer before the time limit, and then a
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  Speaker 3: masked man, the one who was lurking outside, shows up
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  Speaker 3: and kills them.
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  Speaker 5: I could answer that question, please, So like I was,
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to, like yell at the screen during the
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  Speaker 5: first time I saw it, I could yell at the
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  Speaker 5: screen because it was one of those theaters spear in
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  Speaker 5: the movie sphere, which I feel like is a horror movie.
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  Speaker 5: I love horror movies, and I would categorize that as
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  Speaker 5: a horror movie.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think I've seen that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Samuel Jackson's character survives, but they all, all of
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  Speaker 5: them technically survive. I think two of them might, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I think two people do actually die,
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  Speaker 5: but Samuel L. Jackson survives. I don't remember his character's
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  Speaker 5: name though. Okay, so what I have been murdered?
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  Speaker 4: Probably, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, yeah, it depends you might
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  Speaker 2: have gotten away on a technicality.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah right.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you never are in a situation where you
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  Speaker 3: find out. So J Parrow's character is killed and then
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  Speaker 3: Yvonne Orgy's character is like abducted. Cut to the other
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  Speaker 3: friends who that couple was waiting for. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: the next day. They're in the car on their way
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  Speaker 3: to the cabin. We meet Dwayne played by Dwayne Perkins.
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  Speaker 3: Alison played by Grace Buyers and Lisa played by Antoinette Robertson.
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  Speaker 3: It's established that Alison and Lisa can kind of communicate telepathically,
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  Speaker 3: not in a like literal sci fi way, more in
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  Speaker 3: like a jokey way. We're like like a best friend,
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  Speaker 3: right close friends, just know what the other one is thinking.
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  Speaker 5: We're just all black people too, because I've done it
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  Speaker 5: with people at stop and shop, done it with people
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  Speaker 5: on the train. One woman actually communicated to me that
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  Speaker 5: my lace in my wig was lifting.
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  Speaker 4: Oh and then she handed me a clip.
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  Speaker 3: So just all with the eyes, so beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like black people, people of color, we can
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  Speaker 4: do it with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, white people cannot know in fact, we in fact
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  Speaker 2: do the opposite. Yeah, okay. So then we also meet
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  Speaker 2: Shanika played by x Mayo. She is in a separate car.
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  Speaker 2: She stops at a convenience store for some snacks, where
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  Speaker 2: a creepy white guy is working behind the counter. She
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  Speaker 2: also bumps into Clifton played by Jermaine Fowler, who she
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize was coming to the reunion. Then we meet
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  Speaker 2: King played by Melvin Gregg, who is already at the
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  Speaker 2: cabin where a white park ranger whose name is Ranger White,
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  Speaker 2: cher White Yea and later Ranger White White.
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  Speaker 3: He's played by Dietrich Bader. He's giving King a hard
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  Speaker 3: time because he thinks King is trying to break into
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  Speaker 3: the cabin. But then the others show up and they're like, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're renting this place for the weekend, so Ranger White leaves.
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  Speaker 3: We also meet Namdi played by Cinqua Walls. He is handsome, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's handsome for sure. Dwayne does like him because Namdi
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  Speaker 3: and Lisa used to date, but he cheated on her
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  Speaker 3: a bunch and like Dwayne was always there to kind
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  Speaker 3: of pick up the pieces. But Namdi and Lisa are
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  Speaker 3: back together, which is something that will like create tension
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  Speaker 3: among them throughout the movie. They settle into the house
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  Speaker 3: or the cabin. There's some creepy vibes. Alison notices the
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  Speaker 3: door to the game room and she's like, once that,
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  Speaker 3: but it's locked. Then they start drinking and doing molly
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  Speaker 3: and playing spades. They reflect as a group how some
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  Speaker 3: of them have changed or how they haven't changed since college.
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  Speaker 3: They're all kind of not sure why Clifton is there.
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  Speaker 3: He wants to learn how to play spades, but they
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  Speaker 3: don't want to be bothered teaching him.
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  Speaker 4: Do you too know how to play spades?
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  Speaker 3: No? I do not.
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  Speaker 4: I play it.
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  Speaker 5: Periodically, but we like actually had a tournament this Christmas.
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  Speaker 5: It was like me and my sister and my little
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  Speaker 5: brother and my husband and my sister and my husband
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  Speaker 5: were together because they're like best friends and my little
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  Speaker 5: brother were together.
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  Speaker 4: We won every single time. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, nicely done.
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  Speaker 4: They were terrible. We got to know my husband is white,
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  Speaker 4: so that might be why they lost, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I've always been curious about it. Is it
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  Speaker 3: similar to the game Hearts?
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  Speaker 5: It's just like Hearts, okay, but only you have to
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  Speaker 5: In Hearts you don't have to like predict how many
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  Speaker 5: books you're gonna win, how many hands are gonna win,
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  Speaker 5: But in Spades you have to predict, and then you
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  Speaker 5: lose points or gain points if you hit it exactly right,
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  Speaker 5: got it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Cool.
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  Speaker 2: I never advanced from like go Fish and Slapjack.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I know how to play some game. I know
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  Speaker 3: how to play Hearts, I know how to play Canasta.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone else out there in the world, No, what's that
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  Speaker 3: slide into my DMS? If you're a Big Canasta Head.
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  Speaker 3: It's a two deck traditionally card game, although there are
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  Speaker 3: versions of it where you can play with more den
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  Speaker 3: It's similar to bridge in the sense that like a
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  Speaker 3: lot of like old white ladies play it.
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  Speaker 4: So black people love bridge too, though, Okay, okay, nice.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I just assume all old people are doing
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  Speaker 2: in social situations. Yeah, just playing, yeah, playing bridge.
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  Speaker 3: In any case. So Clifton's like, I want to play spades,
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  Speaker 3: but they're mostly just dismissing him because he's like not
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  Speaker 3: really their friend and they're not sure why he's there.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's nice of them that they like didn't
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: kick him out. I know that plot was, but like
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: they could have been meaner.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: True.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they made him a drink, they got him a chair,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: he took his bag.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: That's nice.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like he has like sort of the Revenge
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: of the Nerds syndrome right where it's like, oh, like
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: everyone is like, oh, well, he's kind of a misfit,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you know, he's just lonely, and you're like, no, no,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: you've trusted baby Elon Musk.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Don't let him.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, spoiler alert.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, So then suddenly the lights go out and Lisa
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: notices something or someone lurking outside. They're very creeped out.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: They search the house for a fuse box, and they
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: realize that all the doors in the house are now locked,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: except for that game room from earlier. They enter it
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: and discover that same game, the Blackening Game, which has
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: game pieces specific to each of them, so they think
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: it's their friend Morgan messing with them, so they start
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to play. Then the very racist face on the game
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: says pick a card and save Morgan, and they're like,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: what do you mean, save Morgan? And then a TV
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: turns on in the room showing Morgan tied up and
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: trapped somewhere, and the game is like, if you answer
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: ten questions correctly, Morgan lives and you're all free to go,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: but if you get one wrong, she dies, so they
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: have no choice but to pay. They start playing, and
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: it's questions about black history and black pop culture. They
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: get several correct until they get to a trick question
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: about the show Friends Hilarious. They get it wrong and
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: it seems like Morgan is about to be killed, but
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: she manages to get away and they realize that she's
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: in the basement, so they try to open the door,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: but then the masked killer comes through the door and
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: is shooting arrows at them with a crossbow. A few
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: of them get injured, but then they stab the killer
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: in the foot and shoot at him with the gun
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: that King brought, so the killer kind of scurries off.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: The group ends back up in the game room and
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the killer forces them to keep playing the game. For
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: the next round, they have to sacrifice the person who
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: they deem to be the quote unquote blackest and send
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: them out to face the killer because normally in horror movies,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the black character always dies first, so they all select
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Clifton since again he's not really their friend. So Clifton
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: goes outside and the killer shoots him with an arrow
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and drags him away. Then the friends are like, all right,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: we're done with this. We're not playing your game anymore,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and the Killer's like, okay, well, guess what. It's the
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: sudden death round pretty literally where you can either stay
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: in the house and like hide or go outside and
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: try to escape, but either way I'm coming for you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So Dwayne, Lisa, and Nomdi decide to stay inside while Shinika, Allison,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and King go outside to make a run for it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: The inside group goes into the basement to try to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: find Morgan. They don't, but they find some other creepy shit.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: So they go back upstairs.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: And everyone is like acknowledging every hard ror movie trope
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: at every single step. It's yes, that don't split up trope,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and then don't go down stairs trope.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I do just love a horror movie where all the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: characters have seen horror movies, right, and then do it anyways,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: it's beautiful.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, that's always great.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: I just saw a Korean film, like a Korean horror
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: movie that was basically that the whole thing was just
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: them going to an asylum, which everyone was like, maybe
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: you shouldn't do this splitting up.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Everyone said, maybe you.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Shouldn't do this m hm, sacrificing the weakest and she
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: immediately dies.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Terrible.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like the Blackening sort of
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: demonstrates sometimes it's just a pragmatic choice. It didn't not
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: make sense.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, when Allison is like explaining the whole thing,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, maybe it does make sense for you
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: to split up. Actually, yeah. Anyway, so they find some
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: creepy shit, so they go back upstairs and run into
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Rain White from earlier. He seems to be an ally
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: who wants to help them, so they proceed but with caution. Meanwhile,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: the outside group is trying to get to a main road,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: but the killer finds them and is shooting arrows at them.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: They fight back and Alison eventually kills him. They pull
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: off his mask and it's the creepy man from the
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: convenience store, a guy named Camden Connor. But they realize
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: that he's wearing different boots than whoever they had stabbed
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: in the foot, so there must be more than one killer.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: They screen from the multiple killers.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Meanwhile, Ranger White is trying to get the other
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: group to safety, but he like, here's a noise. He
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: goes to check it out. There's a moment where they
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: think he might be the killer because they find one
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: of the masks in his vehicle, But then Ranger White
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: gets killed and it turns out he was an ally
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: all along. They run back into the house. Dwayne gets
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: separated from the other two for a bit, but then
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: you know, they reunite inside. The other killers after them,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: but they managed to kill him too after Dwayne pukes
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: on his face. Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: The real I feel like I would throw up a
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: baska and chased right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I really love that you just like flew through that,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: like after he throws up anything like that's actually a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: really impactful moment in the film.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to overshadow it.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: And something else you skipped from the other death is
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: like they reference the dance scene from Scary movie.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: This is cinema.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: It's all a references.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: So now everyone is back inside. They've killed the two killers.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: They pull off the second person's mask and he looks
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: just like the other guy and his name is Clive Connor.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: It turns out they are twins, but it seems like
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: they were both hired by someone else to kill this
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: group of friends. Then Dwayne, Shanika, Lisa, and Nomdi go
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: back down to the basement to try to find their
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: other friends, Morgan and Sean. Instead, they find Clifton, who
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: appears to be dead.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another like saw coded moment.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: He appeared, oh right, and then he stands up.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: There is nothing more fun to be in a horror
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: movie when all of a sudden someone goes You're just like, whoa,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: it's the best. It's like, yeah, it's just how like
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I wake up every day and it's funny to watch it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, So there's a newspaper clipping on Clifton about an
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: incid from ten years ago where he killed someone in
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: a drunk driving accident, and they're like, what's this about,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: and then twist, Clifton wakes up. Basically the saw music
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: is playing. No no no, no no no no no no. Yeah,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: he is the mastermind. He's the bad guy behind all
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: of this. He traps them inside the basement and we
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: learn that he's basically enacting revenge against them because on
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: this night ten years ago, they were all at a
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Juneteenth party playing spades and Clifton made a mistake during
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the game and then everyone gave him shit for it
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: and he got really embarrassed, and he got drunk for
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: the first time ever, drove home and killed someone in
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: this drunk driving accident, and his life has been in
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: shambles ever since, with jail time and everything. So he's
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: getting revenge and the friends are trying to form a
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: plan to disarm Clifton using their like close friends' telepathy abilities,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't work because he also can hear them
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: and Meanwhile, upstairs, Alison and King find a remote control
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: on one of the dead guys, and they're trying to
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: figure out how to unlock the basement, but they accidentally
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: turn off all the lights. So the friends in the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: basement use this as an opportunity to fight back against Clifton.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: There's a scuffle and they eventually defeat and kill Clifton
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and like throw him into this very deep well. So
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: the six friends having all survived, they're now outside trying
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: to figure out what to do. They know that calling
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the cops is a horrible idea.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: And by this time the credits are inexplicably running right.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know why. This is like a post credits moment.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Feels like a studio decision.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know it could be. So rather than calling
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: the cops, they call the fire department, but then they
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: still get sprayed down, and that's like the little button
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: that ends the movie.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: It's hilarious, so funny when I remember seeing that the
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: first time, I like, spit out my drink is so funny. Also,
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: something you left out.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Clifton starts laughing from the bottom of the.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Well, so he might not be dead.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: That there's gonna be a second exactly, there's gonna be
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: a second film, which I know they're working on now.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, I saw that very excited. Let's take another quick
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: break and then we'll come back to discuss and oh,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: we're back, and we're back. Where should we start? No yet?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Does anywhere jump up for you? Where would you like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to start?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: There's some moments I just love. I really liked when
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: they sing the Sister Act song to each other. Sister Act,
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: So if you want to be somebody and you want
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: to go somewhere, you gotta wake up and pay attention.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: So me and my sisters will randomly just like sing
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: that to each other, and whatever's happening calls for it,
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean?
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: So I like seeing that in a movie.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And then I did like the part where the really hot.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Woman played by Antonette Lisa was saying why do black
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: women have to save.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Everybody all at the goddamn time when she's like.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Killing the guy, and I was like, yeah, that's my.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: That was my little like, yeah, exactly.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Like Black House, black women power movement moment for the movie.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's kind of part of a larger thing,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: which is that like, women are allowed to do things
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: in this movie in a way that they're often not
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: allowed to do things in most movies, where like, you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: obviously it's Shanika, Alison, and Lisa, they're you know, answering
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the questions of the game. They're fighting back against the killer.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: And I didn't clock any moment where a woman had
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: to be saved by a man, but we do see
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Alison save King when the killer is descending on him.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: In the woods, we have women killing the two masked minions. Okay, bellow,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Alison kills one and Lisa kills the other one. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: also appreciated that a queer character, Dwayne kills the final
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: big bads. So it's like you have characters who are
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: not normally even allowed to participate, well.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Not even allowed to live and yeah, to live to participate.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah right. It's no surprise that a black woman co
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: wrote this script.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I wanted to shout her out because Tracy Oliver is
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I think, like a modern icon in comedy writing just
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: in general, because she started. I mean, she was the
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: writer who co kicked off Isa Ray's career with the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Misadventures of Awkward Black Girl back in twenty eleven. Yeah,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget for some reason, like she and Issa
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Ray came to speak at my school when I was
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: like a sophomore in or like a freshman or software
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: in college about that web series, and she's gone on
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: to have such a cool career, and like she was
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a co writer on Girls Trip. She wrote a Barbershop sequel,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: which the director of this movie, Tim Story, was also
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the director of the original Barbershop, amongst many, many many
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: other movies. I'm sorry, I have scholarly journal Wikipedia up
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: two thousand's fantastic four, interesting deep cut. I think like
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: a Man one and two, the Shaft.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Reboot, ride Along and Ride Along too.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: If there's one thing Tim's Story is gonna do, it's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: stick with his franchises. But yeah, like a lot of
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: sort of modern icons are involved in this movie. I
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: totally agree with you, Kitlin, and I love how much
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: agency the women in this story have. I do wish
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: that we had more like because obviously it's a huge
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: ensemble cast, you have to be very careful about like
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: what relationships you're giving focus to. I do wish that
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: there was more relationships between women that were given focus
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: because I do feel like it was mostly the relationships
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: between women and men, whether it was romantic or not.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: There didn't feel like a strong core friendship between women,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: and I felt like, I don't know, I wanted that,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and you could tell everyone as friends, but there wasn't
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: like an ongoing sort of story between women, and I
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: wish that that was there.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I did write down all the instances where the women
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: were talking to each other about something other than a man, yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: or not involving a man, and it was like always
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: about drugs or spades.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: And then there's like The.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Sister, which powerful interaction nonetheless, but.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Exactly it's like, I'm glad there's a movie where women
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: are talking about these things. But yeah, you're right, they
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: didn't really you didn't really feel that much depth of
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: their relationship unless it was the talking to each other telepathically,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: because the women did that with each other a lot. Yeah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: but they weren't really talking about anything deep. But that's
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: also refreshing because as black person, nothing takes me out
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: of a movie more when all of a sudden there's
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: a deep conversation when it's a silly movie and you
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: know about whatever we go through in day to day
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: life as black people it's like, Okay, well this was
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: a comedy and so yeah, until you were like, oh
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: my life, I've had to fight and they literally are
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: fighting for their lives.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Here and you can barely complain, which I loved. I
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: love that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I think what would have helped for me is because
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: we get there's only one real subplot in the movie,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: which is the relationship situation between Lisa and Amdi, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: then Dwayne's sort of resentment of that, so the three
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: of them are kind of embroiled in this subplot. So
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I think what would have been nice is if the
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: other three characters had their own subplot, and that would
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: have allowed Alison and Shanika to have a subplot, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: then we would have seen Shanika and Alison interacting more
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and have a better understanding of their friendship or something
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: along those lines, where like an entire subplot revolved around
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: at least two of the women and we could get
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: a better sense of their friendship. Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I do feel like they attempted that with the adderall yeah,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: that Shanika gives Allison, and then also with King being
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: so injured, like.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Just shot immediately and then shot in the same place, right,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: they had to rescue him.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I feel like that was the attempt at that, but
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: maybe they cut some things. I don't know, Yeah, because
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: it didn't seem like a full sub story at all.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that was the thing that I had written
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: down where it was just like I want the studio
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: notes and production history of this movie, Like what was
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: there that got cut? Because it is like a tight movie.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: It's an hour and a half my favorite kind of movie.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Not complaining. I love when a movie is not three
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: hours so long. It's my favorite.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Unless it's Titanic and that's the only exception.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: To that, and that it has to be three hours long.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: But like, I'm not complaining about the link that I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: am curious, like, because you have an eight person cast,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: which relationships were explored in earlier drafts? What was left?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And why did the relationships that are focused on end
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: up being focused on? Because I'm honestly, I mean, I
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: like non d It just felt like, yeah, it ultimately
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: kind of ended up like the subplot ended up revolving
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: around this kind of like this straight couple from college,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and you have more interesting dynamics right there. I don't
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: know I'm being picky, but that said, I think that
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the dynamic between Lisa and Douayne is really interesting and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: not one that you see often explored of just kind
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: of how he it seems like in college was her
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: closest friend who she would go to when her relationship
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't going well, but not when her relationship was going good.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: And that's a rare thing to see explored, And I
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: thought it was really well done. I just wish you
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: just got to see more between like especially with like Shanika.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I felt like there was a ton of opportunities for
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: her to like be characterized a little more because x
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: MAO is so funny and like can do anything. I
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: was like, give her more to do, you know, but
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: it's only an hour and a half, So what are
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: you gonna do?
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Right? Something I do like about her character is that
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: she swims in the lake because you know, this movie
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: has an agenda to like dispel a lot of tropes
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: or examine popular tropes, whether they be racist tropes or
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: just sort of general tired movie tropes, and one of them,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: she says something like, Oh, I'm gonna swim to the
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: other side. I can see like houses on the other
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: side of the lake. They probably assume we can't even swim.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: But then King is like, well I can't, and she's like,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: way to be a stereotype, but you know, then she
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: swims in the lake. Also, she is a fat character
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: and she's the only one who does a physical activity
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: like this, which is also rare to see in a
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: movie where a fat character is written to do some
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: kind of physical activity like this. So I appreciated that
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: different stereotypes were unraveled there.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I love that too.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that because in elementary school, like my
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: biggest friend was the one who like swam the fastest,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: ran the fastest, and it was nice to see that
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: represented in a movie because you're right, you never see that,
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Then also like I grew up.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: In a family where we all swam, you know, so
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: that was also nice. Yeah, and it made sense. The
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: character that they had say I can't swim made sense
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: like socioeconomically too, because he was like supposed to be
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: this character that seems as though he was from an
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: inner city where a lot of people don't know how
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: to swim, not just the black people, like if you
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: don't have access to pools. So I love that they
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: it seemed like they even thought about that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would take like the length of three episodes
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: to go through the amount of detail this script goes through.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And just like, especially in the trivia sequences, I feel
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you're getting a lot of like really overt references to
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: black pop culture. But like, also there's just a million
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: tiny moments in this movie where it's just like effortlessly
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: kind of taking down what you're expected to see in
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: a horror movie by just like letting the characters be
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the characters. And that's the best mm hmm.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Obviously, huge theme of this movie is the story kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: of examining this idea of black as a spectrum, where
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: you know, some black people are quote unquote more black
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: than others based on interests or lifestyle or things like that.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: And ultimately the movie comes down on the side of
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: there's no such thing as a black spectrum and it's
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: harmful to think that, although you do see the characters
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: like having to work through that and learn that because
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: they're talking about, oh, well, this person's more black than
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: this person because xyz. And there's a whole scene predicated
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: on that, and that's the scene that the original sketch
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: by the comedy Troupe three p right, It's like this
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: whole movie is based on that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I was kind of waiting for that in the whole
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: because I was like, are they going to do the
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: sketch is the movie?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Are they going to do the sketch?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Because it was like a real famous sketch, and they
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: did the sketch I felt so it was like they
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: basically said the title of I mean they do also
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: say the title of the movie and the VideA You're just.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Like they did the sketch. Yes, So like, ultimately the
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: characters have to learn that, you know, it's their differences
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: that make them special and there's no one way to
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: be black and it's not as cheesy as I'm making
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: it sound in the movie.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: I feel like they did already know that, and it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: very it's very funny that the character that didn't know
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: that Clifton was the one who even designed the game,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: because they even say like what do you mean who's
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: the blackest? Like they're even like, what do you mean?
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: That doesn't make sense? And the things that they say
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: in that scene are so funny because they're usually the
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: things that are said to people to be like, oh,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: you're not black enough, Like the thing they say to
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Nomdi where it's like, oh, your original recipe black because
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: you're from Africa. That's usually that they that's said to
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: be to take away some blackness from a person, So
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: they like definitely thought about that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And also like Alison's Alison as a biracial character too,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and she is sort of repeatedly like dunked on forrit
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: kind of clown on for it, and that she defends
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: herself and like, and I also just love the sort
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of contrivance that it's like basically a college reunion where
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: they all know each other, and it just like builds
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the perfect world to be like, oh, I'm just going
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: to project who I was ten years ago on to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: this person, and then you have to be like, well,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: wait a second, why am I giving Namdi shit? Why
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: am I giving Alison shit the same way I did
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: ten years ago? And you sort of see the characters
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: organically grow through having to do that, and it's still
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: funny because they've known each other for ten years, so
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: they don't have to be like polite about it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Another thing I really liked with Alison's character, There is
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: a stereotype in the black community, especially at the academic
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: level where the mixed race kids are gonna be in
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: every like African American studies class, they're really gonna try
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: really really hard to learn every little ounce of like
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: black history. And they keep bringing that up with her character.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: You know, she's the one that knew all the words
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: of the black national anthem.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: She's wearing a.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was really funny. Yeah, they really
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: did think of all the tropes they did, it was great.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: But even in like addressing all of these tropes, every
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: character had humanity. Like there was no character that it
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: felt like even if it was like a very sort
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: of like broad like Jermaine Fowler's character, who I feel
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: like is maybe the least you know, like given any
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: respect because he famously voted for Trump, which is the
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: quickest way to lose respect for a character. But yeah,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: that I would imagine, as Dwayne Perkins and Tracy Oliver
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: are ready script it has to be such a like
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: tricky like needle to thread of like how do we
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: show these stereotypes, debunk them and have these characters have
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: individual humanity? But they did it it just like it's
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: a really thoughtful script in that way.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, they did an excellent job, because at no
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: point did I feel like I was watching a very
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: like stereotypical movie. I just I felt like, oh, this
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: was written by black people, and I can tell and
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: I feel very represented. Everyone that I watched the movie
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: with felt represented and it was good. I was gonna
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: ask you, guys, when did you realize that Clipton was
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: the murder? Because I realized it immediately in the in
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the convenience store.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's being very suss.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: No. I feel like there are so many like red
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: herrings presented at the beginning of this movie where you're like, well,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: even if it does have to do with the scariest
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: guy we've seen so far, it's probably not actually him
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: who's nearby and it's Clifton And yeah. I mean that
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: weirdly goes into conversations we've been having on the show
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: forever with like the Revenge of the Nerds kind of trope,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, in the eighties and into the nineties,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: there was this whole idea of you know that the
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: nerd character is owed to something by others around them,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: and that we have wronged them, and that there is
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: a wrong to be made right. And now it's like
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: there's almost like an automatic like, Oh, he's not a
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: bad guy, he's just lonely, he's just a misfit. And
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: now I feel like that's come all the way around
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: because the world is run by cruel nerds. Yeah, so
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: when I see a Nerds stock character, I'm automatically like, well,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know. In twenty twenty three, when the movie
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: get like, you know, we can't be so sure that
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: we're supposed to be on this guy's side exactly either way.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Thrilled the feature main Fowler don't care in what capacity?
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Right, That's true. He's always good to see.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That was the thing for me where I was
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: like very immediately suspicious of him, and I was like, oh,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: he's probably the killer, partly because Jermaine Fowler is like
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: not playing to type at all.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Normally he's like, you know, a very smooth, sexy person.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Not that Nerds can't be sexy obviously, but like.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: We're about to get a five hundred emails excuse me,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: obviously we're nerds.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah hello, and we do fine. No, but he's playing
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: not to type with this character. So I was like,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: hmm that I bet that's like indicative of something about
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: his character. But then when he goes outside and gets
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: shot with the crossbow, I was like, I guess it's
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: not him. And then there's you know, the red herring
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: of Ranger White showing up and you're like, oh, is
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: he an ally? Isn't he? Can they or can they
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: not trust him? And he gives that like monologue about oh,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: if I was invited to the cookout, be honored, but
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't go because I know that that would, like
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: my presence, there would be a disturbance of an all
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: black space and I wouldn't want to do that and
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: all this stuff, and they're like, oh, that's actually a
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: pretty good answer. But then they find the mask in
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: his car and you don't know if you can trust
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: him or not, and then ultimately he dies and he
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: was seems like he was trying to help them. So
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I've found that kind of rollercoaster of like can we
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: can we not trust this character to be amusing?
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, that was good.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: It's a good fake out. Yeah, because it's also like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, this movie is doing so much at once,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: where like it's straddling genres, it's trying to dispel all
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: of these timeoutit tropes, and it's just like trying to
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: create a coherent horror movie where there's like the right
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: amount of fake out villains and the right amount of
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: twists and it does everything. Yeah, I thought that twist made.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: It's so cynical. But like, as a now horror movie fan,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: when Dark Ranger White returned, I just looked at where
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: we were in the run time and it was like, well,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: it's not him. Yep, Like, based on the run time,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: it's not him. But I wonder how it will end
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: up not being him?
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Right, that's true because it's like we just watched too
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: many movies now, or like you guys especially probably watch
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: any movies.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: We're pilled.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: We know the formulas. It's true, it's bad. I also
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: just want to shout out Duwayne the character, Dwayne the
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: person and writer and actor in this movie. It was
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: very important to Dwayne Perkins that there be a representation
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: of a queer character who's not just like the gay
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: best friend who has like very little actual characterization, who's
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: just there to be, you know, a stereotype and make
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: little jokes and stuff like that. And so obviously he
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: put a lot of care into writing and performing this
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: character that has dimension. Again, he's a participant in this
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: subplot with Lisa nom Dy, and it really focuses I
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: think on I.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Think Lisa and Duyanne are kind of like, if you
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: had to choose central characters, I feel like it's them
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I appreciate that he has this
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: subplot that characterizes him a bit more. And yeah, it
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: was again just important to Dwayne Perkins. He was talking
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: about especially the intersection of being black and queer, and
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: he wanted to really focus on that and make sure
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: that that character is someone who other people could see
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: and look up to.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: So exactly, So, how do you guys feel about I'm
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: gonna do a deep black question. Two of the dark
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: the dark skinned characters did die first, but then they
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: have Namdi, who arguably is like maybe darker than both
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: of them, who does survive, and then everyone else is
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: like somewhat light skinned.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Oh you mean, with Morgan and Sean dying first. Yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: that is something that I feel like this movie would
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: have actually tried to avoid, and it's kind of surprising
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: that it went din Yeah right, yeah, because they do
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: talk about colorism in the movie and there's this running
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: joke of like Aunt Viv from Fresh Prince, and she's
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: eventually replaced by a lighter skinned actor. And there's another
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: moment where the group I think it's the ones who
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: stay in the house, and like after it's like the
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: sudden death thing, and one of the characters says, oh,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: typical for like the killer to go for the darker
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: people first. So they're acknowledging colorism, and so it is still.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: I will say that Lisa was also dark skinned, so like,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: two dark skinned people survive, but you died first.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Uh oh makes you think?
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that also registered for me, And I sort of
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: went back to like, well, they are the two most
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: famous cast members, and I was wondering, like, is it
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: a legiti thing, because it feels clear that for the
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: most part, I think that this movie was written for
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: certain actors in mind ideally, but the first two people,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if I'm playing Devil's advocate, I
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: would guess that the first two characters who die were
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: just written as the first two characters who die. Obviously
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: they're black characters. But I'm sort of wondering if it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: like whatever, the most famous black woman and those famous
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: black men that want to be in this movie, We'll
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: go with them. And then, like in retrospect, it sort
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: of ended up like you're saying, which makes total sense
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: of they are darker. I don't know, what do you think?
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: I literally asked that question to like see if you
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: guys would freak out. But I'm just kidding. It was.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: It works.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry for falling apart.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I was sort of like yvon Orgy and j Ferrah.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're both so famous, so of course they
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: don't have more than two days to commit to that exactly.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I I do feel like the lead story,
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: other than them fighting off a murderer, being between nom D, Lisa,
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: and Duyne was because like those three actors, I feel
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: like this was like kind of their vehicle.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: It was definitely Duyne's vehicle. And then Antoinette.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: I keep calling her Antoinette because it's just like her
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: real name, and nam D I'm not gonna saying his
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: real name. They're also pretty famous. Yeah, so I wonder
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: if that's why the other characters kind of got cut away,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: not saying that they're not a saerience because X Mayo
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: is very famous, Like, so is Grace Byers Chris Byers.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean as an Empire fan.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: I love Empire.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, as an Empire fan, like that
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: was one of my first.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Like, oh, I know, I was excited to see her.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Her husband was in Origin too, which I love. So
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: that was pretty Oh wow. He's been doing stuff. He's
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: been directing a lot too. But I just feel like
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: they definitely were put every movie. You can tell who
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: they're pushing right, who they're trying to say, you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: hello to Hollywood's book them in more things. And I
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: feel like that other storyline, like the romantic storyline, was that.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: That was my thought about it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so hopefully it worked. Hopefully Dane will be more things.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Oh god. I mean, like, regardless of any criticism anyone
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: has of this movie, if Dwayne Perkins ends up being
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: a movie star, then we want it's gravy. It's fine.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good. Yeah, our close personal best friend, Dwayne.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Perkins, he's like actually on the phone right now with us.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just shot Facebook messaging.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I will say that one of the members of the
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: comedy Troupe three Pete who made the original sketch, which
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: I believe has disbanded a few years ago. But one
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: of the original members was my friend Namdi. I don't
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: think the character Namdi was really based on him. I
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: think they're just like, who are the people that were
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: in this grooves? A lot of the characters have the
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: same names as the members of this group, but not
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: played by the same actors, with the exception of Dwayne Perkins.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Namdi is like supposed to be
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: my friend Namdi, so there's little flex.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: So were they involved, like the other people in the
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: sketch group? Were they involved in the film? I actually
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: don't look that up.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: If they are, I couldn't really tell they or not.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: I wasn't sure I did really in any sort of
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: like writing capacity.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I certainly hope they were compensated because this movie was
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: very much made off of the very successful comedy Central Sketch.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I wasn't able to find information about it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Another thing I wanted to point out, just a
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: small criticism of the movie, but this is a movie
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: that's guilty of having one of the villains have a
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: facial difference. Yeah, one of the twins has one eye.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: And we've talked about this huge trope in especially horror movies.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: But disability representing evil.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, villain will have a facial difference and it's meant
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: to telegraph to the audience like this is how we
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: know they're a villain, or this is part of why
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: they're a villain. And this is a very harmful trope
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: obviously that the movie does still participate in. I feel like, similarly,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: one of the villains has asthma and uses an inhaler,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: the way that a lot of movie villains are often
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: written to have a breathing condition. So this movie does
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: still lean into some tropes, not in a way that
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like it was malicious. It was more just like, oh,
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I'm writing a horror movie. What do horror movies do?
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: And like they just maybe didn't consider the harmful implications
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: of some of the tropes.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Even the makeup they put on Officer White. The makeup
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: they put on him was to make him look weird.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Like the way that his face was done in production
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: was to be like, oh, something's wrong with him, something's
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: a little off, even though he you know, he has
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: a red herring.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: Like even in that and Clifton.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: Also, he seemed like he might have been like on
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: the spectrum a little bit, which was also not great.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: They were really doing basically a caricature of that with
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: the Clifton character, and I don't know if that's the
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: way it was written or if that's just the way
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: you know, the performance went.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I agree. I had a similar note no, yeah, yeah
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: that it just felt like there and again I want
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: the studio notes history of this, because you don't need
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: to other white characters very much to make them suspicious.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: It just felt like almost like sort of a default,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: like less thoughtful choice by whoever. I have no idea
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: like is this a writer choice, this is a director choice?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Is studio choice? I have no idea, but in a
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: movie that yeah, it is like so you know, based
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: on taking down all of what you're meant to assume
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: in a horror movie, it felt like yeah, especially with disability,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: it was not as.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Juicy, right, but the movie does yes, fun and funny.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I also want to shout out the predominantly black production team.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: We've already talked about the director and the writers. There's
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: also the team of producers is mostly black. The cinematographer
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Todd a dos Race, the music Dexter, story and production
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: designer Cecil Gentry, all black filmmakers.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: It's pretty cool.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Wow cool, And I might be leaving some people out,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: but those are, like, you know, some of the main
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: creative decision makers. So just wanted to shout those.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Lionsgate.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: Allie's choosing diverse programming, so that's pretty good.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: They did joy Ride.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Also they do a bunch of my favorite television shows. Yeah,
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: the Power Universe is Lionsgate, so yeah, nice.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: And also just you know, box office wise, this movie
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: was made for five million dollars. Wow, which is wild,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: especially because this is in last year dollars. This is
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: in current dollars, and it more than tripled its budget,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: which is you know, I don't know. I feel like
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: so often, especially with movies that are made by black directors,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: by marginalized directors in general, or by women, I mean
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: just any marginalized director, it's always brought to like, well,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: you know, like if you can't get butts in seats,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: you can't tell us blah blah. But like, this movie
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: tripled its budget. If there are not more movies like
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: The Blackening or more movies from this creative team coming out.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: It is a structural There is no argument for this
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: boofy being unsuccessful. It tripled its budget and it's funny
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: and everyone liked it. So yeah, I don't know, I'm
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: like getting ahead of it, but I'm like, shut up
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: in it.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: Well, I do know that they're working on a second one.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Well it's yet to be seen if it actually comes out,
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: because those state of things you never know, but hopefully.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, people are trying to just like delete
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Hollywood in general, but we'll see, Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: We shall Does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: The only other thing I had to say was like,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I feel as if anytime there is a like niche
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: movie that comes out so like a genre movie, basically
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: like a horror movie, it's always like, oh, this is
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the first horror movie directed by a woman, and it's
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: like treated like that, or this is the first black
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: horror movie, and you know, this is not something that
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: is big endorsed by the blackening. It clearly draws from
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: the legacy of black horror movies. But if you enjoyed
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: this movie, there is a whole genre of black horror movies.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: In case you need to hear that, because I feel
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: like the way that Hollywood marketing works is very often
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: any movie by a marginalized director is made to seem
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: like the first movie that's ever existed, and that thankfully
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: is very rarely actually true. And so if you enjoyed
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: The Blackening, there are so many movies like The Blackening
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: going back decades, and you should check them out.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I would also recommend the documentary called Horror Noir, A
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: History of Black Horror, which examines tropes and you know,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: horror movies in general centering black characters or that involve
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: black characters. But it's a really good documentary that breaks
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of that down. So HI highly recommend.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: On the same subject, You guys are very right. There
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: are a lot of horror films by black people that
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: I loved in like the seventies, eighties, like every decade.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: But would you.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: Consider Leprechaun in the Hood a black horror movie?
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: I cannot safely say because I've never seen it.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Oh what would you know?
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: No, okay, but I feel like it was marketed that way,
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: Like it definitely was marketed to black people.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, there are.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: Lots of black people in miss I'm like, because he's
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: in the hood, he's still played by he's played by
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: a famous white man.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: A Leprechaun Allprechon.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, lepre in the Hood.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, We've covered five hundred movies, but that is not
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: one of them.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like it definitely. I understand why
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: you haven't. I'll say that right now. I think Warwick Davis.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: Honestly when it even tell people to watch it at
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: this point, but it has become sort of a classic.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: So I mean, if you want to come back on
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: the show and talk about a movie with us, you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: are more than welcome.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a camp movie is a camp movie. Is a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: camp movie.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't rewatched it recently, but I do have
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: vivid memories of it, just like it just would not
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: be okay in the stage or maybe it would maybe
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: do great because of the way things are going.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: But it shouldn't be God.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: So like maybe, Yeah, if you guys want to watch it,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna like it, but only.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: One way to find out.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, I can't wait.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: It's like a Howard the Duck type vibe. I don't
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: know if you saw that.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen a clip. I haven't seen any
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: of the Leprechaun movies, no, but I've seen clips from
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: at least one of them, and it seems goofy as hell. Yeah,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: does anyone have anything else before we Bechdel test it?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: No, let's back to test it. I feel like it's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: going to be good.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: It does pass. Yeah, Lisa, Shanika, and Alison all talk
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: to each other in different combinations, both verbally and telepathically,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: and so that makes it kind of an interesting and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: novel pass.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: A telepathic pass, but it definitely passes.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, So yeah, kind of that's all there's about it.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: And they talk about something other than a man, although
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: in the first thirty minutes it's touch and go because
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of just talking about Namdie or do
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: I Yes, very true, but they do move on from that.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: After that. They're talking about weapons, they're talking about adderall,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: They're quoting sisterrect too, you know, stuff like that.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Love it, love to see it.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say just on a because I'm all
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: about intersectionality. So for intersectional feminism passes that test too.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: They talk about race, class, culture, sexuality, spirituality.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: It kind of like encompasses that whole thing as well.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Absolutely for sure. The movie scores very high marks on
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: the Kent Test, which of course is a media metric
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: created by friend of the cast, Clarkasha Kent. If you're
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: not familiar, it's a pretty comprehensive list of criteria that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: examines representation of women of color and especially black women
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: in media. So I haven't done a full breakdown for
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: this movie in relation to the Kent Test, but i'd
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: imagine it gets pretty high marks. And that kind of
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: brings us to our nipple scale, where we rate the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: movie on a scale of zero to five nipples. Examining
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: the movie through an intersectional feminist lens, I'm gonna go
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: like four and a half on this one. I think
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: it's doing so much. I love comedy as a vehicle
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: to examine things like, you know, racist tropes in movies
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: and to examine really anything. But I think it's such
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: an effective tool for that, and I think this movie
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: does such a good job of that. The different just
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: kind of thematic things that the movie explores, the tropes
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: that it seeks to dispel, things like that. I appreciate
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: that the women are characterized in such a way that
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: they are allowed to do things in the story and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: push the story forward with their choices and actions. I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: appreciate that they are distinct characters. There's body diversity among them,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: there's all kinds of stuff that we don't see, and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: this movie writes women in such a way that they are,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: you know, all the characters of this movie. But I
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: pay particular attention to the way women are written in
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: horror movies and how cautious and aware of their surroundings
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: they are, because women in horror movies are almost never
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: written that way. They're just oblivious, they're just like careless,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: not doing anything. But like these characters, and again particularly
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: the these women and even more specifically, these black women,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: are like appropriately cautious and aware of their surroundings. So
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: it's not hard to do, but yet most horror movies
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: don't do it. This one does. I appreciated that. I
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: also think it's really cool that the movie centers Juneteenth.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: There's just so little acknowledgment of June teenth in Hollywood
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: movies and in media in general, so it's cool this
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: holiday is the backdrop for this movie. So much to
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: love about this movie. I would say that where I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: would take off any kind of nipple points would be
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: the few harmful tropes that it does lean into regarding
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: ascribing a facial difference or disability or neurodivergence to the villains,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: specifically violent villains. And it's just surprising that this movie
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: does this since it seeks to avoid and subvert so
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: many other harmful tropes, which is why I will still
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: give the movie four point five nipples. I really love
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: this movie. I think it's so funny, and I'll throw
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: my nipples to the original group three Peete and the
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: cast of the movie, so that's who gets my nipples.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: That can divide them up how they choose.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on like a four nipple about I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: think this movie is wonderful. I think the fact that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: this movie exists fucking rocks. I think that the legacy
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: of black horror like needed sort of like a shot
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: to the leg and that the Blackening very very very
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: much did that, and that it will lead to a
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: number of wonderful movies. I do wish that because we
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: have a cast of a lot of women, that there
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: was more narrative space made for relationships between women, and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like the things that this movie falls back
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: on are both what you said, Kaitlyn and I in
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: the sort of ablest tropes that appear within the movie,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: but also just sort of the heteronormative tropes that appear
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: within this movie in spite of the fact that our
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: sole queer character as far as we know, end up
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: being sort of the hero of the movie. Like I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: feel like in a cast that is about split down
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: in terms of gender, if we're talking in the binary sense,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: I wish that there were more dynamics between women that
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: we're seeing because there's a lot of setup that I
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: feel like we could have had more of and there
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: could have been explored more. But there are very few
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: movies like this coming out at any time, much less
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: last year. And it's a funny movie. It's a great movie.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate, and like want to shout out what
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: we're just talking about of how the diversity behind the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: camera equals the diversity in front of the camera, because
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like in so many movies that we talk
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: about that have a lot of black actors in front
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: of the camera, that energy is rarely matched behind the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: camera because of how Hollywood is structured and the fact
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: that the blackening actually is like doing that on all
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: sides is wonderful.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's a really funny movie. I think it's
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: really rewatchable. I hope we get a sequel. Oh my god,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I don't trust Hollywood with fucking anything right now.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Same honestly, they can't.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Seem to release anything without deleting it three months later.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: But this is a really awesome movie. I mean, it's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: fun and it was successful, and I want to seem
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: more like it. So I'm gonna go four nipples. I'm
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: going to give one to Tracy Oliver, two to Dwayne
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Perkins because you know he's doing double duty at least
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: in this movie. And then I will give my final
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: nipple two x Mayo because I'm a fan.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, how about you know you.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna go higher than both of you,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: but it's not gonna be perfect. I think I'm gonna
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: do a four and three quarters nipple, which I do
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: have three quarters of a nipple on my right side.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: I won't get too into it, but I agree with
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: you with the ableism. And then also I do wish
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: they built the female relationships a little bit more, or
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: just you know, showed more scenes with that, I do
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: appreciate that it was a short movie, Like you were saying, Jamie.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: I love a short movie.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: That's why I've been able to see it so many times,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: be honest, because it's like just watching a television show
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: at this point or YouTube video. I watch all these
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: retrospectives on YouTube. They're the same hour and a half.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I do like that. I know that there's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: a second one being worked on. Please let it happen.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, if the budget was only five million for
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: the first one, they could do it again with the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: same budget. Hopefully they would get more money though this time.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: And that leads me to give the three quarter nipple
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: to lions Gate for making it happen with that small budget.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: Thank you to them. And then, you know, just evenly
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: disperse my nipples to the cast, the writers, the crew. Yeah,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: everyone that just made it happen, because that's great. I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: love giving my nipples away too, feels good.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: You know, it's slipperating.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Give them away.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: Heal him of the XMA, then give them right back,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: all right?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: That was CMI.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, can I also say, okay, this is you two
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: are are white. But I do love that it was
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: still just rated R. When they got to say nigga
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: so much, that's very refreshing for me, like that they
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: still let it have just the rated R rating because
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: there was once upon a time that would mean like
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: N C seventeen and C seventeen or something.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: You know, based on what I saw, I still feel
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: like this movie could have warranted a PG thirteen.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: Same.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the violence wasn't that graphic.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you're going on a gore on.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: The thing that stuck with me the most was the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: vomit and that's very PG thirteen. I just can't deal
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: I think the rated R was because of the use
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: of nigga, like the use of the N word, because
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys can say that on
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: this podcast, I'm gonna say N word from that you can, okay, Yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Sound like eight times.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: I mean like we talk about that a lot though,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: of like why in the rating system, why do certain
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: movies get our ratings? And so often it's just because
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: of like something that is not commonly accepted among like
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: the white middle class is like what will directly influence
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: the rating? And I feel like I'm glad this movie
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: got in our rating, and I also think it could
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: have been a PG thirteen rating and done even better
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: as a result, because this should have been a movie
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: that was I mean, I think it probably was anyways,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: because thankfully it is easy to sneak into our rated movies,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: but this should have been a movie that was like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: readily accessible to any high schooler, Like why wouldn't it
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: be true?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: The first time I saw it there were definitely some
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: high schoolers there, so definitely people were able to see it,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: So that's good. But you're right, it should have been
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: PG thirteen, So I take back my kudos for them,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: because even with the use of nigga like they should,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: it should have been PG thirteen.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they say fuck a lot, and I think are
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: only allowed like one or two fucks okay.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Which is also ridiculous and grow up like what fourteen
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: year old is like, Oh, one fuck okay, that's all
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I'll use moving forward.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: I used to say fuck all the time when I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: was six. I don't know where I heard it, but
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: I got in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: At school all the time for saying it.
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  Speaker 5: If six year olds in Catholic school can say fuck
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  Speaker 5: all they want, then it should be in movie.
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  Speaker 3: It's a movie.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck, every kid says, fuck why it's fun and it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't hurt anybody true anyway.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 5: It was really fun. I'm sorry if I so quiet
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  Speaker 5: all the time. I just like, really like how much
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  Speaker 5: work you guys put into your research. It's like very nice,
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  Speaker 5: and you guys have that very like MPR Okay, sorry,
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  Speaker 5: Public Radio Comming voice.
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  Speaker 3: I'll type the compliment.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you m a compliment. I love it. What I'm
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  Speaker 4: hearing is.
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  Speaker 3: That I'm brilliant, yes, and so cool and also beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, thank you, yes, thank you for coming on
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  Speaker 3: the show. Tell us where people can follow you online?
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  Speaker 3: Check out any of your stuff plug away.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, you can find me my schedule at
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  Speaker 5: no yacomedy dot com. No o n y ecomedy a
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  Speaker 5: dot com. I think I have some stand up on there.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even remember anymore. I'm gonna be traveling a lot,
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  Speaker 5: so I'll be in New England a bunch of times
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  Speaker 5: this summer. I'll be in DC and that'll be in
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  Speaker 5: like September ish. Yeah, and you can follow me at
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  Speaker 5: nony Fizzle at Gmail or sorry, no, not Gmail.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry I'm on autopilot. I do only know nony fizzle.
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  Speaker 5: Gmail is not my email address, so nony Fizzle at Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: So that's n O n e E f I z
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  Speaker 4: z l E.
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  Speaker 5: And then I'm not really on Twitter anymore, but it's
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  Speaker 5: at that, no ya. I will retweet stuff that I
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  Speaker 5: think is funny. I might post a show so you
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  Speaker 5: can follow me there, and that's just that n O
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  Speaker 5: N y E. And also my ig in my Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, that's the same thing. I'm so tired, you guys.
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  Speaker 4: I had no copy today.
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  Speaker 5: My Instagram and my TikTok are the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, now I'm done. Perfect.
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  Speaker 3: That was beautiful. I loved it every moment of it.
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  Speaker 3: that center a super fun, super cool theme that's brilliant
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  Speaker 3: and awesome and beautiful as well.
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  Speaker 2: And never weird and never does it's never weird.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, so normal. Actually that's all at patreon dot
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  Speaker 2: Oh maybe I will. So we also have a merch
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  Speaker 3: And it's all designed by Jamie.
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  Speaker 2: And with that, what does everyone say? We all, I'll
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  Speaker 2: call the fire department and see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: Bye bye, bye bye. The Bechdel Cast is a production
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