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- 0:00Speaker 1: In Sydney, a torrid, ill-fated affair that ends in tragedy
- 0:05Speaker 1: and an enduring mystery. This is a lurid story of adultery, arson,
- 0:11Speaker 1: and finally, murder.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I was numb. I just, at first, I didn't want
- 0:21Speaker 2: to hear what they were saying.
- 0:23Speaker 1: It started with a chance meeting at a Sydney hospital.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Kylie Lou Bouchardier was a nurse. Paul Wilkinson, a liaison
- 0:30Speaker 1: officer with the New South Wales Police Force. They'd met before,
- 0:35Speaker 1: but this time, something clicked.
- 0:37Speaker 2: It's very manipulative. Very, very manipulative. She was looking for
- 0:43Speaker 2: something and thought that she found it.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Soon, Kylie and Paul were in the throes of a
- 0:49Speaker 1: wildly passionate affair. And it mattered little that they were
- 0:53Speaker 1: both married or that Paul had a tiny baby. And
- 0:57Speaker 1: they weren't involved in their sordid sexual trysts. They were
- 1:01Speaker 1: madly phoning and texting each other. In just four months, 23,836 times.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Yet incredibly, they managed to hide their dirty little secret.
- 1:13Speaker 3: That'd be one secret you probably wish Kylie hadn't kept.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 1:18Speaker 1: But as we'll discover tonight, when Kylie became pregnant and
- 1:22Speaker 1: their secret was about to be exposed, things changed dramatically.
- 1:27Speaker 3: And she was scared.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Very scared. Very, very scared.
- 1:31Speaker 1: These are the last haunting images of Kylie Labouchardier. What
- 1:37Speaker 1: really happened to her, only one person knows. Paul James Wilkinson.
- 1:43Speaker 1: And he's not telling anyone.
- 1:44Speaker 5: Well, can you think of anywhere she might have gone?
- 1:46Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:49Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:50Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Very, very many people leave. A pathological liar. Quite incredible,
- 1:58Speaker 2: the stories that he actually had made up.
- 2:00Speaker 1: It's 10 years since Kylie Labouchardiere was murdered, her body
- 2:06Speaker 1: never to be found. In life, she was outgoing, vibrant, happy.
- 2:10Speaker 5: Is that a good-looking woman? Oh, yeah, and the bride.
- 2:15Speaker 2: She was beautiful. She was generous. She was very kind-hearted,
- 2:21Speaker 2: very loving, very caring person. When she went into nursing,
- 2:26Speaker 2: that's what she did. She cared for people. She just
- 2:29Speaker 2: loved life.
- 2:30Speaker 1: It was through nursing that Kylie fell for the charming,
- 2:34Speaker 1: persistent Paul Wilkinson.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Julie says she's never seen a deer like this before.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Paul was a patient at Sutherland Hospital, where Kylie worked.
- 2:43Speaker 1: They'd met before, but this time something clicked, and they
- 2:47Speaker 1: started an intense affair. It mattered little that both were
- 2:51Speaker 1: newly married, although Paul's wife Julie had a baby on
- 2:55Speaker 1: the way.
- 2:55Speaker 3: At the time, did you think there was something else
- 2:59Speaker 3: going on.
- 3:01Speaker 6: Not really because I was so consumed with, one, the
- 3:04Speaker 6: pregnancy not going the way I thought it would and
- 3:06Speaker 6: then trying to work out being a first-time mother.
- 3:11Speaker 3: What about him? Was he at home all the time
- 3:14Speaker 3: or was he going out?
- 3:15Speaker 6: He was going out a lot. He would tell me
- 3:18Speaker 6: he was going fishing and things like that.
- 3:20Speaker 7: Who knows?
- 3:22Speaker 2: In retrospect, I don't know.
- 3:25Speaker 1: When they weren't engaged in steamy sexual trysts, Kylie and
- 3:29Speaker 1: Paul were endlessly texting and phoning each other. In four months,
- 3:33Speaker 1: they made contact a staggering 23,836 times. That's more than
- 3:40Speaker 1: once every 10 minutes, every hour of every day. The texts,
- 3:47Speaker 1: the sheer volume of texts between Wilkinson and Kylie was
- 3:51Speaker 1: pretty extraordinary, wasn't it?
- 3:52Speaker 7: That's incredible.
- 3:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:55Speaker 8: I'm not much of a texter myself, but, yeah, they
- 3:58Speaker 8: were almost 24 hours a day, you know, seven days
- 4:02Speaker 8: a week.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Despite the incessant phone calls and texts, Kylie's husband, Sean,
- 4:08Speaker 1: was also oblivious to the affair. Like Paul and Julie Wilkinson,
- 4:14Speaker 1: they'd only been married for a year, but already the
- 4:17Speaker 1: relationship was all but over.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Kylie's behaviour... changed dramatically, absolutely dramatically. Kylie announced to the
- 4:30Speaker 2: family that Sean and her were getting a divorce and
- 4:34Speaker 2: their family were very much shell shocked. Couldn't believe that
- 4:39Speaker 2: this was actually happening.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Did she say why?
- 4:44Speaker 2: She didn't really give a reason why. And at that
- 4:48Speaker 2: point in time, the family had no knowledge of Paul Wilkinson.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Wilkinson's marriage was also doomed. There were tensions in the household.
- 4:58Speaker 1: He was constantly on sick leave from the police force
- 5:00Speaker 1: where he worked as an Aboriginal community liaison officer. Wilkinson
- 5:05Speaker 1: was eventually sacked because of his appalling work record and
- 5:09Speaker 1: it didn't help he was a chronic gambler, a fantasist
- 5:12Speaker 1: and a controlling bully.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Can you give an example what sort of things he'd do?
- 5:18Speaker 6: I wouldn't be allowed to wear anything low-cut. could have
- 5:22Speaker 6: no male friends, only had a couple of female friends
- 5:26Speaker 6: that he approved of. So yeah, it was very isolating.
- 5:30Speaker 7: Did he ever get aggressive?
- 5:32Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 5:33Speaker 7: Physically violent? Physically violent, threatening.
- 5:36Speaker 6: He'd threaten to kill me, he'd threaten to strangle me, yeah.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Over what sort?
- 5:42Speaker 6: And I think it did get worse probably in that
- 5:44Speaker 6: time period after our son was born.
- 5:47Speaker 1: And it was when their son was born that things
- 5:50Speaker 1: really got weird in the Wilkinson household. To continue his affair,
- 5:55Speaker 1: Paul Wilkinson needed an empty nest. And so he concocted
- 5:59Speaker 1: an extraordinary story to convince his wife to move out,
- 6:04Speaker 1: saying that his police work had put them in danger.
- 6:08Speaker 6: Paul then said we got death threats. It was apparently
- 6:11Speaker 6: to do with a case and he said it'd be
- 6:13Speaker 6: safer if I stayed at mum and dad's. So my
- 6:16Speaker 6: son and I went straight from the hospital to my.
- 6:19Speaker 3: Parents' house. Didn't even get to go home?
- 6:21Speaker 5: Nope. No.
- 6:23Speaker 7: Did you have suspicions then? No. No. Did you see
- 6:27Speaker 7: the death threats?
- 6:28Speaker 5: Yep.
- 6:28Speaker 4: What did they say?
- 6:31Speaker 2: There was one that I remember vividly.
- 6:33Speaker 6: It was my son's teddy bear stuck to the wall
- 6:36Speaker 6: with a knife through it with a handwritten note, bye-bye baby.
- 6:43Speaker 3: By early 2004, something had to give.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Paul Wilkinson was busy juggling a wife, a new baby
- 6:50Speaker 1: and a secret lover. Then in April came the bombshell.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Kylie was pregnant.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Did she like to confide in you? Did you feel
- 7:00Speaker 3: you were a trusted friend as well as a mum?
- 7:04Speaker 2: No, no, Kylie didn't confide in anybody. She was her
- 7:09Speaker 2: own person. She was very supportive. Very secretive.
- 7:13Speaker 3: Looking back, that'd be one secret you probably wish Kylie
- 7:16Speaker 3: hadn't kept.
- 7:18Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 7:20Speaker 1: But Kylie did tell one person, Paul Wilkinson. Little could
- 7:24Speaker 1: she know that this joyous announcement would seal her fate.
- 7:29Speaker 3: You didn't know she was pregnant.
- 7:31Speaker 2: We didn't know what was going on. We hadn't met
- 7:33Speaker 2: this person. We didn't know.
- 7:38Speaker 2: The control... That he had over Kylie at that point
- 7:43Speaker 2: of time, yeah, no idea.
- 7:46Speaker 1: While Kylie was looking forward to a new life with
- 7:49Speaker 1: Paul Wilkinson, he had other ideas. Nevertheless, he agreed to
- 7:54Speaker 1: leave his wife and move with Kylie to.
- 7:57Speaker 3: Dubbo in central New South Wales. Well, at least that's
- 8:01Speaker 3: what he told her.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Do you think he ever actually planned to start a
- 8:05Speaker 1: new life with Kylie?
- 8:07Speaker 7: I don't think so, no. He was just stringing her along.
- 8:10Speaker 7: It looks that way. We didn't have any evidence to
- 8:12Speaker 7: support that.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Two days before her murder, Kylie excitedly made arrangements for
- 8:18Speaker 1: removalists to transport her furniture to Dubbo. Then she sent
- 8:22Speaker 1: this text to Paul Wilkinson.
- 8:25Speaker 9: Today, and then Wednesday, and then it's Dubbo. You and
- 8:29Speaker 9: I together forever.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Did she tell you she was planning on going to Dubbo?
- 8:34Speaker 7: No.
- 8:36Speaker 5: No.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Was she ready to stop and leave?
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:39Speaker 2: We had no idea. But that's what she was planning
- 8:42Speaker 2: to do.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Instead, the secretive Kylie told her family she was going
- 8:47Speaker 1: to the country to spend a few days with friends.
- 8:51Speaker 1: On the 28th of April 2004, Kylie set off to
- 8:55Speaker 1: meet Paul Wilkinson for the drive to Dubbo. With her,
- 8:58Speaker 1: she had $ 25, 000 in cash, but she still stopped off
- 9:02Speaker 1: here at the local ATM to withdraw even more money.
- 9:07Speaker 1: It is the very last image of Kylie La Bouchardiere.
- 9:13Speaker 1: When Kylie arrived here at Sydney's Central Railway Station, this
- 9:17Speaker 1: is something she'd been planning for months. She'd been excitingly
- 9:21Speaker 1: texting and phoning Paul all the way here. The furniture
- 9:24Speaker 1: was already on its way to Dubbo. She just had
- 9:27Speaker 1: to change trains and then it was a short ride
- 9:30Speaker 1: to Sutherland where she and Paul.
- 9:33Speaker 7: Begin their new life together.
- 9:36Speaker 3: She had no.
- 9:37Speaker 4: Idea what was coming next.
- 9:41Speaker 3: She thought she was starting a new life.
- 9:43Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 9:43Speaker 3: He planned to end her life.
- 9:45Speaker 7: Yes, it would appear that's what happened on the night.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Disbelief. I was numb. I just.
- 9:54Speaker 4: At first.
- 9:55Speaker 2: I didn't want to hear or couldn't... didn't want to
- 10:00Speaker 2: hear what they were saying. It was very, very hard.
- 10:06Speaker 5: Very, very hard.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Kylie Labouchardiere thought she was starting a new life with
- 10:13Speaker 1: her lover, Paul Wilkinson. But just hours after these images
- 10:17Speaker 1: of her were recorded, She was dead. It would be
- 10:23Speaker 1: weeks before her terrible fate was revealed.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Alarm bells rang within me. Alarm bells started ringing. We
- 10:31Speaker 2: kept on ringing her mobile phone and there was no answer.
- 10:36Speaker 2: This was totally out of character for Kylie to be
- 10:39Speaker 2: gone days, even visiting friends with no contact.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Kylie's family reported her missing here at Gossard Police Station
- 10:47Speaker 1: on the 8th of May. Right from the start, police
- 10:50Speaker 1: were interested in Paul Wilkinson. Three days later, they asked
- 10:54Speaker 1: him to come in for an interview, but he didn't
- 10:56Speaker 1: turn up. It soon became apparent that getting the truth
- 11:00Speaker 1: out of Wilkinson, in fact, getting anything at all, would
- 11:03Speaker 1: be a long and tortuous business.
- 11:06Speaker 5: Do you think the radiation might have gone? I don't know.
- 11:09Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 11:10Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Police suspected Wilkinson because they now had the records of
- 11:17Speaker 1: the thousands of text messages and phone calls he and
- 11:20Speaker 1: Kylie had exchanged. But for the next three years, he
- 11:24Speaker 1: consistently denied having an affair with her.
- 11:28Speaker 5: Did you ever reply to her? Yes, I did. What,
- 11:31Speaker 5: did you ring her up or did you send her SMS?
- 11:32Speaker 10: I didn't bring her all that often. Well, I'd say
- 11:40Speaker 10: we'd known each other three times, two, three times. I
- 11:45Speaker 10: made contact.
- 11:46Speaker 8: It was a good lie. An experienced lie. It was
- 11:48Speaker 8: an experienced lie, yes. I wouldn't say it was a
- 11:50Speaker 8: good one, but it was an experienced one. It would
- 11:52Speaker 8: appear that way, yeah.
- 11:53Speaker 4: I know I've wasted your time in the past, and
- 11:54Speaker 4: I'm not... I'm beyond it now.
- 11:57Speaker 1: But the lies just got bigger and more outlandish. In
- 12:02Speaker 1: the days after Kylie disappeared, there was a mysterious fire
- 12:06Speaker 1: at Paul Wilkinson's home. He claimed it was started by Kylie,
- 12:11Speaker 1: who wanted revenge after he rejected her sexual advances.
- 12:15Speaker 5: Can you just tell us a little bit more about
- 12:18Speaker 5: the threats, what sort of threats she was making towards you?
- 12:21Speaker 10: Said there was going to be harm to myself, harm
- 12:23Speaker 10: to me little boy, and harm to Julie.
- 12:27Speaker 4: She actually said that me little boy and Julie would
- 12:30Speaker 4: be killed.
- 12:31Speaker 3: What sort of lies did you have to try and
- 12:33Speaker 3: work through?
- 12:33Speaker 7: What type of lies did we have to work through?
- 12:38Speaker 8: That Kylie was involved in a drug syndicate, that Kylie
- 12:43Speaker 8: was standing over him.
- 12:44Speaker 7: If you don't kill her, I will. Wow, I just, yeah.
- 12:49Speaker 7: I can't remember the lies of so many.
- 12:53Speaker 1: When were you aware of this other woman, Kylie?
- 12:58Speaker 6: Not fully aware until detectives interviewed me and they told
- 13:02Speaker 6: me that he'd been having an affair and the amount
- 13:05Speaker 6: of SMSs and the pregnancy.
- 13:09Speaker 3: What was it like eating that?
- 13:10Speaker 2: Oh, that was a bombshell.
- 13:12Speaker 5: Yeah. Yep. Yep.
- 13:15Speaker 4: Very much so.
- 13:18Speaker 1: But despite that bombshell, Julie Wilkinson stood by her husband
- 13:22Speaker 1: for months.
- 13:23Speaker 9: It is now two minutes past three and we have concluded.
- 13:27Speaker 1: He taunted Kylie's family and detectives with endless false leads
- 13:32Speaker 1: about her fate and where he'd hidden her body.
- 13:35Speaker 8: Before we came down here with Paul James Wilkinson, He
- 13:37Speaker 8: said he couldn't be sure, but it's somewhere located within
- 13:40Speaker 8: this area.
- 13:40Speaker 1: At one stage, Wilkinson even tried to frame another policeman
- 13:46Speaker 1: with Kylie's murder.
- 13:48Speaker 4: The statement is true to the best of my knowledge.
- 13:52Speaker 3: And he did try to implicate another policeman?
- 13:55Speaker 7: He did, yes.
- 13:56Speaker 1: And the pressure you've got is you're pretty convinced there's
- 13:59Speaker 1: been a murder, but you don't have a body?
- 14:01Speaker 7: No.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Don't have a witness?
- 14:03Speaker 5: No.
- 14:04Speaker 3: No crime scene?
- 14:05Speaker 8: No.
- 14:06Speaker 1: What are the odds of success in a case like that?
- 14:09Speaker 7: We had no forensic evidence either.
- 14:11Speaker 1: But their luck was about to change. Julie Wilkinson eventually
- 14:15Speaker 1: saw through her husband's lies and decided to help police.
- 14:20Speaker 1: When did you start to think that your husband could
- 14:23Speaker 1: have killed Kylie?
- 14:24Speaker 6: I don't remember exactly when it was, but all the
- 14:26Speaker 6: stories that didn't add up and didn't match and kept changing.
- 14:30Speaker 3: How did that make you feel?
- 14:33Speaker 7: It was.
- 14:36Speaker 6: The fear of.
- 14:39Speaker 2: My son's father's done this. That's hard.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Now I'm going to cry.
- 14:51Speaker 4: We can stop for a sec.
- 14:53Speaker 7: This is really.
- 14:54Speaker 4: Normally it doesn't get to me.
- 14:58Speaker 1: This is the moment for you where you had to
- 14:59Speaker 1: make a decision for you and your son. And you
- 15:03Speaker 1: wanted to do something where you could both be safe.
- 15:08Speaker 1: And soon there was another dramatic breakthrough. Paul Wilkinson sent
- 15:13Speaker 1: Julie this incriminating text.
- 15:16Speaker 4: Everyone has a reason for hiding a crime.
- 15:19Speaker 7: Call me nasty.
- 15:20Speaker 4: Call me cruel.
- 15:21Speaker 7: Her family can live their lives in misery for all
- 15:23Speaker 7: I care.
- 15:24Speaker 4: Fuck them. Weapon they can have.
- 15:26Speaker 5: Her? No.
- 15:28Speaker 3: How crucial was that text?
- 15:30Speaker 8: It indicated that he knew the weapon, where it.
- 15:33Speaker 7: Was and what was used and where the body was.
- 15:38Speaker 3: But that wasn't enough on its own.
- 15:40Speaker 7: No, no, far from it.
- 15:42Speaker 1: But what did finally crack the case was not one
- 15:46Speaker 1: of Paul's texts, rather the text Kylie had so excitedly
- 15:50Speaker 1: sent to him just before she disappeared.
- 15:54Speaker 9: Today and then Wednesday and then it's Dubbo. You and
- 15:58Speaker 9: I are together forever.
- 16:00Speaker 8: For the purposes of the interview, Paul, could you please
- 16:04Speaker 8: state your full name and spell your surname?
- 16:07Speaker 1: There was now no way of denying the affair. Wilkinson
- 16:11Speaker 1: was charged with Carly Labouchardiere's murder.
- 16:14Speaker 4: I lost my temper and I just went straight for
- 16:16Speaker 4: the throat.
- 16:17Speaker 1: He finally confessed, but even then he claimed he only
- 16:21Speaker 1: killed her because she was threatening his family.
- 16:26Speaker 7: So you've lost your temper, you've grabbed her around the throat.
- 16:31Speaker 4: And before I knew it, she was limp.
- 16:32Speaker 8: I know it sounds like a silly question, but what
- 16:36Speaker 8: was Kylie doing at the time?
- 16:38Speaker 7: Was she obviously trying to scream or trying to freeze herself?
- 16:45Speaker 4: It was a bit of a.
- 16:49Speaker 4: Bit of a struggle.
- 16:53Speaker 7: You've dug the hole. You've then put Kylie in the hole.
- 16:58Speaker 4: Yes.
- 16:59Speaker 7: And then you've put the dirt back on top.
- 17:04Speaker 5: Yes.
- 17:05Speaker 7: And what did you do with the shovel?
- 17:13Speaker 5: I took it.
- 17:15Speaker 4: I took it and I filled it in the river.
- 17:18Speaker 1: But true to form, Wilkinson's cruel games continued. police tried
- 17:23Speaker 1: unsuccessfully to find Kylie's body.
- 17:27Speaker 8: We're currently on Karool Road at Moonee Moonee, directly beneath
- 17:32Speaker 8: the Moonee Moonee Bridge.
- 17:35Speaker 1: This is Moonee Moonee, north of Sydney, and it's here
- 17:39Speaker 1: that Paul Wilkinson led police on a wild goose chase.
- 17:43Speaker 1: He claimed that this is where Kylie LaBouchardiere's body was buried. Now,
- 17:49Speaker 1: because of his police background, Wilkinson knew that they would
- 17:53Speaker 1: have to take his claims seriously, that they would have
- 17:55Speaker 1: to follow up each and every lead. But Wilkinson was
- 17:59Speaker 1: playing a cruel game, one that raised and then dashed
- 18:03Speaker 1: the hopes of Kylie's family. And he did it time
- 18:08Speaker 1: and time again.
- 18:10Speaker 7: After each search, it was just gut-wrenching.
- 18:13Speaker 8: And as an investigator, you can only imagine what it
- 18:16Speaker 8: would have been like for the family.
- 18:18Speaker 3: The frustration must have been enormous.
- 18:20Speaker 4: It was.
- 18:20Speaker 5: It was.
- 18:22Speaker 2: I was on an emotional rollercoaster. There was just days
- 18:28Speaker 2: and days of uncontrollable sobbing. I suffered a massive breakdown
- 18:35Speaker 2: with the searches. I slept with the mobile phone to
- 18:42Speaker 2: my ear.
- 18:42Speaker 3: How would you describe what he was doing with these
- 18:44Speaker 3: false searches?
- 18:47Speaker 5: Very cruel.
- 18:48Speaker 4: Very, very cruel.
- 18:49Speaker 1: But while police never found Kylie's body, her family did
- 18:54Speaker 1: get their day in court. And it was the first
- 18:56Speaker 1: time they'd ever come face to face with her killer.
- 19:01Speaker 3: What did you think of Wilkinson? When you first saw
- 19:03Speaker 3: him in court, what did you think of what you saw?
- 19:06Speaker 2: I don't even know how I can answer that, Brett. I, yeah.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Among all that murdered my daughter.
- 19:15Speaker 1: It had taken five years, but on the 22nd of
- 19:18Speaker 1: May 2009, Paul Wilkinson was sentenced to a minimum of
- 19:23Speaker 1: 24 years in prison for Kylie LaBouchardiere's murder.
- 19:28Speaker 2: That was a feeling of absolute jubilation that we had
- 19:33Speaker 2: won it for her. Yeah, jubilation. The whole family just
- 19:38Speaker 2: could not believe it. Couldn't believe it.
- 19:43Speaker 4: I fucked around with you.
- 19:46Speaker 5: For a while.
- 19:47Speaker 4: I apologize for that.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Paul Wilkinson was finally behind bars.
- 19:56Speaker 3: He played a cruel five-year game.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Of cat and mouse with police and Kylie LaBouchardiere's grief-stricken family.
- 20:04Speaker 2: The life sentence of grief he has given to my family.
- 20:07Speaker 2: I was numb, relieved. It was very, very emotional. Very
- 20:12Speaker 2: emotional for all of us. Very emotional at the time. Finally, finally,
- 20:21Speaker 2: it was over. That's, yeah. We had got a result.
- 20:27Speaker 3: There's one thing that's not quite over, though.
- 20:29Speaker 2: No, that's correct. We haven't found her. He holds the
- 20:33Speaker 2: golden key, Brett. He knows what he did that night
- 20:37Speaker 2: and he knows where she is. And I'm hoping, within hope,
- 20:43Speaker 2: that one day that he will let us know and
- 20:47Speaker 2: that we will find her.
- 20:52Speaker 1: For Paul Wilkinson's wife, Julie, it's been an incredibly traumatic
- 20:56Speaker 1: experience too, finding out her husband was having an affair
- 21:00Speaker 1: and a child with another woman. and discovering he was
- 21:04Speaker 1: a killer.
- 21:05Speaker 4: Look, don't sit and think for one second Julie's entirely innocent.
- 21:11Speaker 4: She's lied to you through her teeth.
- 21:13Speaker 1: But perhaps cruelest of all was the fact Wilkinson had
- 21:17Speaker 1: tried to implicate her in Kylie's murder.
- 21:20Speaker 4: She was aware of the murder. She was well aware
- 21:24Speaker 4: of it.
- 21:25Speaker 3: What's Paul done to you?
- 21:25Speaker 2: He ruined my life for several years.
- 21:30Speaker 6: Both him and Kylie took away my ability to enjoy
- 21:33Speaker 6: parenthood for the first time. He's a narcissist and I
- 21:38Speaker 6: don't know, he's evil.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:41Speaker 6: He's not insane, he's very cunning, but evil, yeah.
- 21:46Speaker 1: And even in prison, Paul Wilkinson is still pulling the strings,
- 21:51Speaker 1: manipulating those left behind.
- 21:54Speaker 3: So to this day, we still don't know where Kylie
- 21:57Speaker 3: was buried?
- 21:58Speaker 7: No.
- 21:58Speaker 9: No.
- 21:59Speaker 5: No.
- 22:00Speaker 3: And what does that mean for the family?
- 22:02Speaker 7: Yeah, can't even imagine. It's got to be horrendous.
- 22:05Speaker 2: I'd like to have closure. I'd like to know that
- 22:11Speaker 2: I can give her the funeral that she deserves. To
- 22:14Speaker 2: be able to talk to her. I talk to her
- 22:16Speaker 2: every day. I see this shining star in the sky
- 22:20Speaker 2: and that reminds me of Kylie.
- 22:22Speaker 3: And you feel Kylie's looking over you?
- 22:24Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. She's my guardian angel.
- 22:26Speaker 3: She's still being smiley, Kylie?
- 22:27Speaker 5: Oh, definitely.
- 22:27Speaker 4: Definitely.
- 22:28Speaker 2: And she'll always be smiley Carly to me.