Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Lisa S. Stump, BSPharm, MS, FASHP, Executive Vice President, Chief Digital Information Officer, and Dean of Information Technology at Mount Sinai Health System
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- 0:38This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:40podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:42Lisa Stump, executive vice president and chief digital
- 0:45information officer and dean of information technology
- 0:48at Mount Sinai Health System in the Icahn
- 0:51School of Medicine.
- 0:53Lisa, it's a pleasure to have you on
- 0:54the podcast today.
- 0:55It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you,
- 0:57Laura.
- 0:58Now I I'm really looking forward to our
- 0:59discussion and learning more about what you're doing
- 1:02at Mount Sinai Health System and some of
- 1:03the cool things you've got ahead. But before
- 1:05we dive in, I'm wondering, could you tell
- 1:07us a little bit more about Mount Sinai
- 1:08and what makes it unique?
- 1:10Sure.
- 1:11So the Mount Sinai Health System and Icahn
- 1:14School of Medicine,
- 1:15is truly an exceptional educational and clinical enterprise.
- 1:19We have almost 50,000
- 1:21employees, including
- 1:22thousands of clinicians and researchers.
- 1:25We have, our phenomenal schools of medicine, biomedical
- 1:29sciences, and nursing, which are among the world's
- 1:32best.
- 1:33We are nationally ranked and recognized for providing
- 1:36expert care, across a variety of specialties,
- 1:40to our patients across the region in our
- 1:43eight hospitals, more than 400,
- 1:45clinical practices
- 1:47and through partnership with community affiliates.
- 1:50So, it truly is a special place, you
- 1:53know, I'll say right at the top here,
- 1:55I've just joined the organization in the last
- 1:58three months,
- 1:59and the culture of that commitment to each
- 2:01other, to our community, and to the world,
- 2:04to me is what makes Mount Sinai truly
- 2:06unique.
- 2:08That's amazing to see here. And it seems
- 2:10like a great place to be, a a
- 2:12really amazing community to have around you, with
- 2:15your teammates as well as the community, like,
- 2:17that you're serving. So I know you've recently
- 2:20joined the health system, but I'm wondering, is
- 2:22there anything you could talk about in terms
- 2:24of an accomplishment that you're most proud of
- 2:26from the last year?
- 2:28Yeah. You know,
- 2:30after spending twenty eight years with my prior
- 2:32employer,
- 2:34making the transition,
- 2:36I I would say I I dived in
- 2:37early to try to really understand
- 2:40the strengths of the team,
- 2:43really understand
- 2:44the needs of the organization
- 2:47and align those two. So in just the
- 2:49last three months, I've had the opportunity
- 2:52to,
- 2:53reorganize and restructure
- 2:55my leadership team
- 2:57to position us for what I think are
- 2:59the really necessary priorities and goals in the
- 3:02coming year and to set us up well,
- 3:05to operate in in the environment that we
- 3:07serve.
- 3:09One of the early
- 3:10priorities,
- 3:11that emanated was around our data,
- 3:15and the way that we are leveraging our
- 3:17data assets.
- 3:18You know, on the one hand, I would
- 3:20say another one of the, I think, unique
- 3:23benefits,
- 3:24or accomplishments here at Mount Sinai,
- 3:26we have an an incredible high performance compute
- 3:29environment,
- 3:31probably one of the largest in the country,
- 3:33actually,
- 3:34that supports the research
- 3:36that is conducted, through the Icahn School of
- 3:39Medicine here at Mount Sinai.
- 3:41On the other end of the spectrum, though,
- 3:43when it came to operational
- 3:45and managerial
- 3:46reporting,
- 3:47that was done in a very distributed way.
- 3:50And so I've had the opportunity to stand
- 3:52up a new
- 3:54enterprise wide data team
- 3:56that is working to leverage those data assets
- 3:59in a more meaningful way to help the
- 4:01organization understand how we're performing,
- 4:04where our opportunities
- 4:05are for improvement, and whether or not we're
- 4:08actually moving the needle.
- 4:10And so creating that easier access
- 4:13to information,
- 4:14not just separate stores of data, has been
- 4:17a really early
- 4:18win, I think, for the organization and for
- 4:20me.
- 4:23That's amazing to hear. You know? And, certainly,
- 4:26just a true testament to, your ability to
- 4:28come in, and learn about the team and
- 4:31then grow and and accomplish things right off
- 4:33the bat. I think it was really,
- 4:36special to hear about how, you know, you
- 4:38mentioned being able to jump in, learn from
- 4:40others who are already, within the system, understand
- 4:43the priorities, and then really, get yourself into
- 4:46a position where, there's a strong performance with
- 4:48this data. Now when you look ahead for
- 4:50the next twelve months or so, what are
- 4:52some of the big growth opportunities you have
- 4:54your eye on?
- 4:56Yeah. So, you know, again, I think we're
- 4:57we're starting from a really strong place,
- 5:00but I think some of the biggest area
- 5:02of growth will be in
- 5:04clinical innovation and artificial intelligence.
- 5:08I've had the opportunity now to,
- 5:11participate
- 5:12in
- 5:13the selection of our first
- 5:16chair of artificial intelligence and human health.
- 5:20So we've created a,
- 5:22formal department in the Icahn School of Medicine
- 5:24dedicated to AI and human health.
- 5:27I had the opportunity to participate in that
- 5:30search and now onboarding
- 5:32that that leader into the space
- 5:35and partnering him,
- 5:37and our new chief clinical innovation officer
- 5:40with a really strong team in our digital
- 5:43health space in my in my division here
- 5:45in IT. We call ourselves DTP, actually,
- 5:48digital and technology partners. So really structuring a
- 5:52center of excellence around artificial intelligence,
- 5:55digital health, and clinical innovation
- 5:58focused on our patients and consumer experience,
- 6:02really taking a hard look at the experience
- 6:04of our employees,
- 6:05and whether or not we've made that
- 6:08as seamless and frictionless
- 6:10as we can.
- 6:12We are looking at the experience of our
- 6:14researchers, our faculty, and students,
- 6:18and, you know, really
- 6:19and the care team, of course, and looking
- 6:22at new AI technologies in that space as
- 6:25well.
- 6:26And so I think the those are the
- 6:28biggest areas of growth. How do we
- 6:31become a much more agile,
- 6:33rapidly learning health system to adapt, adopt, and
- 6:37create,
- 6:38new tools in the in the space of
- 6:40AI.
- 6:43That's really cool to hear. And, you know,
- 6:45I know AI has been such a huge,
- 6:48change and transformation for the health care industry.
- 6:50Great
- 6:51to know that you've got the somebody leading
- 6:53the AI, the chair of AI and human
- 6:55health coming in to,
- 6:57be part of those efforts. I'm wondering from
- 6:59your perspective, you know, so much is,
- 7:02happening and change is happening so quickly. How
- 7:04do you really,
- 7:06decide what to focus in on it and
- 7:07where it makes the most sense for you
- 7:09to spend your time, effort, and resources
- 7:12when it comes to AI and, transforming the
- 7:14way you're doing things at Mount Sinai?
- 7:17Yeah. It's a great question. You know, I
- 7:18I always bring people back to,
- 7:21we need to ensure we understand what problem
- 7:24we're trying to solve,
- 7:26clearly define it, and be sure it's a
- 7:28problem that needs our attention right
- 7:31now. Right? The pace of change and the
- 7:33development of lots of tools and AI models,
- 7:37the the they're coming at us fast and
- 7:39furious to your point,
- 7:41and we can't give every one of them
- 7:43our attention. And so ensuring we're solving very
- 7:46real problems
- 7:47for our patients, for our clinicians, for our
- 7:49organization
- 7:51really helps set the the key priorities around
- 7:54how we frame and focus our energy.
- 7:58That's great to hear. Thank you so much
- 7:59for going a little bit deeper there. Now
- 8:01I know there's a lot of opportunities,
- 8:04ahead, but also challenges.
- 8:05What are some of those big challenges or
- 8:07headwinds that you're anticipating for the next year
- 8:09or so?
- 8:11Yeah. As I said, I think the pace
- 8:12of change is probably one of the most,
- 8:15significant
- 8:16challenges.
- 8:18Even good change is hard. Change is hard,
- 8:21for all of us. And,
- 8:23you know, our organization
- 8:25as a whole
- 8:26is undergoing,
- 8:27I would say, you know, transformative
- 8:30change deliberately.
- 8:32We are looking at transforming our basic operating
- 8:35models. We've tended to function,
- 8:37as I said early in a in a
- 8:39fairly distributed
- 8:40model, across the enterprise.
- 8:43We have new leaders, myself included, but I'm
- 8:46not alone
- 8:48at that level. There are other new leaders
- 8:50in the organization or leaders who have been
- 8:52here a long time, but are now functioning
- 8:55in new roles.
- 8:56And so
- 8:58that's a big change.
- 9:00Just within my span of control, I'm coming
- 9:03in as a new leader, in our digital
- 9:05and technology partners. I've reorganized my leadership team,
- 9:09and some of the teams underneath them, to
- 9:12create
- 9:13a workable structure.
- 9:15All of that is change.
- 9:16And then we're on this rapid pace of
- 9:20implementing and introducing
- 9:22new technologies and new systems. And so
- 9:25really paying close attention to
- 9:27the change management,
- 9:29and the cognitive burden that that we're putting
- 9:31on,
- 9:33you know, ourselves,
- 9:34and our peers, I think, is something that
- 9:36we're very focused on.
- 9:39Absolutely.
- 9:40It seems like, you know, as you mentioned,
- 9:43the there's always new things happening, always new
- 9:45things occurring, and change can really be hard
- 9:47for people. And so,
- 9:49is there anything that you found that's worked
- 9:50really well to maybe lessen a little bit
- 9:53of that anxiety that comes with a lot
- 9:54of
- 9:56change? You know, I've I I always like
- 9:58to break change down into the sense I
- 10:01can't
- 10:02and,
- 10:03overwhelm people.
- 10:04You know, you have to present that clear
- 10:07vision,
- 10:08so that people get excited and buy in
- 10:10to the change,
- 10:12but then not overwhelm people with so much
- 10:14detail
- 10:15right up front. Right? And then break it
- 10:17down into those digestible bites,
- 10:21and celebrate the wins along the way. So
- 10:23when those first two or three milestones have
- 10:26been accomplished, right, that we laid out,
- 10:28celebrate those,
- 10:30clarify that that's now set us up to
- 10:32move to steps four, five, and six
- 10:35so that people can see always their eye
- 10:37on the end game,
- 10:39understand what's necessary,
- 10:41what they need to commit in the near
- 10:43term, and then remind them of the progress
- 10:46that we're making.
- 10:49That makes a lot of sense.
- 10:51Thank you so much for for, explaining that
- 10:53a little bit to us. Now before we
- 10:55wrap up here, I'm wondering what is the
- 10:57number one thing that you're doing right now
- 10:59to set Mount Sinai up for long term
- 11:01success?
- 11:03Yeah. You know, Laura, I'd bring that right
- 11:05back to the data. So, you know, as
- 11:07I said, we're we're under a major sort
- 11:09of transformative
- 11:11effort,
- 11:12and
- 11:13it's data that needs to guide a lot
- 11:15of the really challenging decisions that we all
- 11:17need to make as leaders, and clinicians in
- 11:19the organization.
- 11:20And so,
- 11:22you know, I'll I'll go back and say
- 11:24we're we're today, and I'm just starting to
- 11:26get our arms around it with a structure.
- 11:28There's a long history here of those
- 11:31distributed
- 11:33data sources.
- 11:34Right? Lots of individual
- 11:36departments or teams
- 11:37have their own,
- 11:39you
- 11:40know, source of data or or datasets and
- 11:43databases.
- 11:44They've then done analysis and produced their own
- 11:47reports and dashboards.
- 11:49And then you get really intended,
- 11:52really smart people in a room, but each
- 11:54with their own set of data that's conflicting.
- 11:57It's really hard to then make an informed
- 12:00decision.
- 12:01And so I think one of the biggest
- 12:03things we'll do to set the organization up
- 12:05for success
- 12:06is have a clean set of organizational metrics
- 12:10that are tied to the goals that we
- 12:12need to achieve
- 12:13with a clear and viewable
- 12:16set of the definitions,
- 12:18around those metrics.
- 12:20That that's the only way. We're we're again
- 12:22gonna know where are our priorities. Right? Where
- 12:25do we need to focus our energy
- 12:27to improve
- 12:28operations and outcomes
- 12:30and then understand if our efforts are making
- 12:33a difference? So putting strong governance and making
- 12:36data readily accessible
- 12:38in a common viewable place.
- 12:41You know, again, it's only been three months,
- 12:43but as I've started to
- 12:46communicate that to key stakeholders across the organization,
- 12:50there was an initial, you know, concern and
- 12:52trepidation around
- 12:54somebody else, you know, analyzing the data that,
- 12:57you know, I've done myself for years.
- 13:00But very quickly, people see the benefit of
- 13:02that common
- 13:04source of truth that we can all operate
- 13:06from.
- 13:08And with so much change, again, so quickly
- 13:11without data, you know, we could quickly lose
- 13:13our way. So,
- 13:14I I think that's that's gonna be a
- 13:16really significant impact.
- 13:20That's really helpful to know and amazing to
- 13:22think about, what it takes to to really
- 13:25bridge that gap and and make that change
- 13:26and then to have a a data driven
- 13:28organization with those metrics and with the information
- 13:31really being put to work in the smartest
- 13:33way possible.
- 13:34Lisa, thank you so much for joining us
- 13:36on the podcast today. This has been a
- 13:37really fun conversation, and I look forward to
- 13:39connecting with you again soon.
- 13:41You as well. Thank you, Laura.