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In the End... We're All Riding Solo · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is Tom Kane, the voice of Yoda. And
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  Speaker 1: listening to Movie Meltdown, you are good.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 3: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 3: and parental discretion is advised. Our nuclear reactor pumping out
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  Speaker 3: one million kilowatts of power. What's up and welcome to
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  Speaker 3: Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 4: And Happy Life Day. Oh, wait. They totally messed up
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  Speaker 4: our timetable.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. You noticed that, too.
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  Speaker 4: Star Wars is supposed to release at Christmastime, and then
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  Speaker 4: we can have our Life Day holiday special, and we
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  Speaker 4: can talk about the latest Star Wars movie. And look
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  Speaker 4: what they did.
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  Speaker 6: May.
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  Speaker 4: They think it's like the 80s again or something, which
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  Speaker 4: I didn't realize. That's when they used to always release them.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that either.
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  Speaker 4: So they're back to the original. I think it fell
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  Speaker 4: on the exact same day as the 77 release or something,
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  Speaker 4: and Jedi was on the same day or something. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're back to old, old school Star Wars release schedule,
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  Speaker 4: which I guess is okay, but it's throwing off our
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  Speaker 4: life day celebration. So now we're just going to have
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  Speaker 4: to make people watch the holiday special in December. Again,
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  Speaker 4: I still hear about that. People still give me grief
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  Speaker 4: for forcing them to watch the entirety.
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  Speaker 2: They should, because I get people all the time who
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  Speaker 2: go through my DVDs. Some people have never even heard
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  Speaker 2: of it. And they want to watch it, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like, I don't think you're up for it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think people were prepared for what was about
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  Speaker 4: to attack them.
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  Speaker 6: I tap out pretty soon into it, too.
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  Speaker 4: It was probably even more overwhelming because I was projecting
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  Speaker 4: it onto a screen.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 4: It was a large version of everything.
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  Speaker 6: That wasn't meant to be seen.
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  Speaker 4: No, probably not.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: I ruined some holidays.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that there are segments that are entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: Just the animated Boba Fett pretty much is the only thing.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like on their own, there's a couple
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  Speaker 2: sections where if you just saw that, you'd be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't great, but okay. But as a whole, oh, man.
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  Speaker 4: It's all pretty rough. Like, even the other, like, the
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  Speaker 4: story-based stuff, there's a lot of Art Carney. There's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of Harvey Korman. And don't get me wrong, in
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  Speaker 4: the right place, both of those guys can be good.
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  Speaker 4: That is not the right place for them. Like, it
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  Speaker 4: is rough, even that stuff. And the musicals, all of
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  Speaker 4: the music performances are a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, how can you go so wrong, Jefferson Starship?
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  Speaker 2: And who said it'll be a good idea to have
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  Speaker 2: Carrie Fisher sing?
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  Speaker 4: Carrie Fisher? I can't probably. She was like, look, I
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  Speaker 4: got this. You know how much coke I'm on right now?
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  Speaker 4: I can do anything.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So we don't have any of that to contest with
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  Speaker 4: now because it's sort of summertime. Not really, but it's
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  Speaker 4: like 90 degrees every day, so it feels like it's summertime, so.
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  Speaker 4: All right. Any crazy trailer talk before we get going?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I at least had some different stuff
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  Speaker 4: this time.
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  Speaker 2: Everything except for one movie, and it's the one I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember, but all the trailers that I saw were
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  Speaker 2: either remakes or sequels, which I know is how the
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  Speaker 2: blockbusters have been going for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Standard, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it just reinforced that. As I'm at a prequel
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  Speaker 2: or sequel or spinoff or whatever you.
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  Speaker 4: Want to call it, I don't even remember what mine were.
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  Speaker 4: It was the one that.
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  Speaker 6: Was like the house that has a clock in the
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  Speaker 6: wall or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 3: Webster?
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  Speaker 6: I think it's a Jack Black.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't get that trailer. I've seen one of these,
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  Speaker 4: but that wasn't this week. I saw a trailer for
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  Speaker 4: the new Robin Hood. I haven't seen that one yet.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard they were making it. For the new.
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  Speaker 2: How many umpteenth live-action Jungle Book movies we need.
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  Speaker 4: I did get that one. Which, actually, I went back
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  Speaker 4: and forth on. Yeah, because didn't he write other stories
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  Speaker 4: with him? There's several Mowgli stories. Yeah, I thought Kipling
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  Speaker 4: did several with Mowgli, so I'm like, at least they're
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  Speaker 4: kind of basing it on the real thing and the
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  Speaker 4: writer and whether or not they do anything.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the CG looked promising.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the last one I still haven't watched, but
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  Speaker 4: everything I heard was like, the CG was really good,
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  Speaker 4: the story was actually... pretty close to what it needed
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  Speaker 4: to be. They still somehow shoehorned in songs, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any songs in this one. If not,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be really dark.
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  Speaker 4: It does look a little darker. And then like, I
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  Speaker 4: was also like, so is this Favreau? Cause I'm pretty
• 5:52
  Speaker 4: sure that first one was Jon Favreau. And then I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it is. I guess he handed it up.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he's still producer, but I think he, someone else
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  Speaker 4: was directing. So that'll be interesting too, that now they
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  Speaker 4: have a whole new director on the helm.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know what to think of that, but the kid
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  Speaker 4: still looks kind of cool.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like I say, I went back and forth parts
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  Speaker 2: of it where I was like, this looks really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And the other parts I was like, this just looks
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  Speaker 2: kind of flat.
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  Speaker 4: It kind of looked more interesting. Like I was kind
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  Speaker 4: of like meh on that first one. Cause I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I've seen how many versions of it. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I kind of know that story pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: Like I just don't feel like rehashing, but like, because
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  Speaker 4: they're doing different stuff and all of the, Characters are
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  Speaker 4: still kind of getting worked in, it seems like, but
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  Speaker 4: they're doing entirely different things. Like, all right, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: little more likely to watch this one than the first one. There,
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  Speaker 4: I guess that's something.
• 6:46
  Speaker 6: Mission Impossible, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mission Impossible. Constantly.
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  Speaker 6: Constantly. Every movie that I've seen in the last six months.
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  Speaker 6: I had that trailer.
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  Speaker 2: And it's been the same one. For me, anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always the same one. It may just be.
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  Speaker 2: I at least got a new Jurassic World trailer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, that was on there. It was a different version, slightly.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I got the one, the Meg, Megalodon.
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  Speaker 4: I got one about the giant shark.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get a Megalodon trailer.
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  Speaker 4: I got Megalodon. I did not get that one, but
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  Speaker 4: I kind of wish I did.
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  Speaker 6: Which looks like it's going to be like a weird comedy,
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  Speaker 6: but not like a comedy like Sharknado, just like a
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  Speaker 6: It's like, we're, you know, zany, but there's also a
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  Speaker 6: giant shark coming after us.
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  Speaker 2: The poster is like an aerial shot of people swimming
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  Speaker 2: in the ocean over a giant, like, bus-sized shark, but
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  Speaker 2: it looks like a Pixar poster.
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  Speaker 6: Like Finding Dory.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, yeah. Finding Sharky. Sharky's machine. Wait, no, that's a different... No,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that's... You may have also just named
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  Speaker 4: the next, like... coming straight to cable like bus size
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  Speaker 4: shark i feel like he's just asking to be on
• 7:58
  Speaker 4: siffy right now so well i just remembered the one
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  Speaker 4: i got and i'd seen maybe it was just online
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  Speaker 4: i saw a version of it i saw it on
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  Speaker 4: the big screen and i'm just you know once again
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  Speaker 4: i want to fight it i want to be like
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  Speaker 4: you know they don't need to do a kind of
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  Speaker 4: soft remake of die hard and i get back to
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  Speaker 4: the same stumbling block every time i'm like damn it
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  Speaker 4: tween johnson You make me want to watch everything.
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  Speaker 6: You charismatic bastard.
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  Speaker 2: Son of a bitch.
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  Speaker 4: It's like Skyscraper or something. It's like 25% Towering Inferno,
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  Speaker 4: 75% Die Hard. Towering Inferno was what I picked up
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  Speaker 4: off of it, which has been long enough.
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  Speaker 2: We can do another one of those.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, even Die Hard. It's been a long fucking time. It's,
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  Speaker 4: to me, kind of hard to remake or even kind
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  Speaker 4: of half remake. something that like changed its own genre.
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  Speaker 4: But again, if anybody can do it, freaking Dwayne, the rock,
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  Speaker 4: he's going to like, he's so damn likable. Even in
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  Speaker 4: this one, I'm like, I, I will call them out though. Really? Like,
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  Speaker 4: you don't need to show me the entirety of what
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  Speaker 4: happens in the movie. Like by the end, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of feel like I got it all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They really didn't just tease with anything. I'm just like,
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: so then this, and then that, like it was just
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  Speaker 4: going through the plot more or less. And, A three-minute snippet.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just like, okay, you should really hide a little
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  Speaker 4: of it. If we're going to spend that much money
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  Speaker 4: to go see it, you should not give it all away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was mine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they realize that they put The
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Rock in it. People are going.
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: People are going to go most of the time. Every
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: once in a while, he's got a weird misfire, but yeah,
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: you can't fight The Rock. He's just that damn charismatic. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I got that one. Alright, are we ready to roll
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: into the life day celebration? The half life day celebration.
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  Speaker 4: Halfway to life day.
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  Speaker 3: Get more out of life. Go out to a movie.
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  Speaker 1: Out of town.
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  Speaker 5: Out of town. Out of the night. Out of town.
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: You're after something.
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  Speaker 3: Is it revenge?
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  Speaker 4: Money? Or is it something else? You look good. A
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: little rough around the edges, but good.
• 10:49
  Speaker 7: Heard about a job, big shot gangster, putting together a crew.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a driver and I'm a flyer.
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  Speaker 3: I waited a long time for a shot like this.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think? Well, what do you know? You
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  Speaker 3: got a line on a ship? Yeah, I know a guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's the best smuggler around.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: I heard a story about you.
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  Speaker 4: I was wondering if it's true. Everything you've heard about
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: me is true l3 let's go with a mean man's
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  Speaker 4: face hey with these guns.
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  Speaker 1: If you come with us you're in this life for good.
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  Speaker 3: You might want to buckle up baby.
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  Speaker 8: Here they.
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  Speaker 2: Come let me give you some advice I assume everyone
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  Speaker 2: will betray you and you will never be disappointed.
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  Speaker 4: I got a really good feeling about this.
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  Speaker 3: When do you know how to fly?
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  Speaker 4: 190 years old?
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  Speaker 3: You look great.
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  Speaker 5: So long.
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  Speaker 9: They got a different actor playing solo But everybody watching
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  Speaker 9: just for Lando They wish the whole damn movie was.
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: Mine Chewie.
• 13:03
  Speaker 9: That Wookie makes it into every movie. He even gets
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  Speaker 9: to act a.
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  Speaker 5: Scene with Woody. He know damn well that ship is mine.
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  Speaker 9: We didn't want it this day, but we got it.
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  Speaker 4: We have once again gone out on the town, and
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  Speaker 4: this week's out on the town feature is Solo, colon,
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  Speaker 4: A Star Wars Story, which it was pointed out that
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  Speaker 4: that was actually in the title on the screen, which
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  Speaker 4: Rogue One did not have, oddly enough. The year, obviously,
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: is 2018. The director is Ron Howard, and the plot,
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  Speaker 4: according to IMDb, During an adventure into the criminal underworld,
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  Speaker 4: Han Solo meets his future co-pilot Chewbacca and encounters Lando
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: Calrissian years before joining the Rebellion. Oddly worded and put
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  Speaker 4: together as usual. And spoiler alert, we're going to ruin this,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure, so go see it. That's your own fault, whatever. So,
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  Speaker 4: where do we want to begin? I have A couple
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  Speaker 4: of different takes on it.
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  Speaker 2: I have several different takes. First off, I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. It never took itself seriously
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 4: Months ago when I saw the trailer and I think
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  Speaker 4: I brought it up on one or the other. I
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  Speaker 4: was just like, everybody else was complaining because it's Star
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: Wars and old people like to complain. This is not
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  Speaker 4: my Star Wars. As I'm watching that, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this looks fun. I sat there the whole time and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Turns out I was right. It's a
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  Speaker 4: hell of a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: There were things that I knew that they were going
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  Speaker 2: to touch on that I was worried about, that they
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  Speaker 2: were going to spend a lot of time on, that
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  Speaker 2: they were just kind of like, eh.
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  Speaker 4: There was a lot of mentions of stuff. Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't hit you over the head with Easter eggs
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  Speaker 2: as much as I thought they would.
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  Speaker 4: There were a lot, though. There were a lot. I
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  Speaker 4: kept thinking about it afterwards. Like, oh, yeah, on that one. Oh, yeah,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: on that one. But they were all so quick and subtle, usually.
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  Speaker 4: Or as subtle as Easter eggs get.
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  Speaker 2: They even went outside their own universe because there were
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  Speaker 2: Indiana Jones references.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And I can't decide.
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  Speaker 2: Which I didn't notice.
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  Speaker 4: I did. And I can't decide if I like subconsciously
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: saw it and then planted that own thought. Because I'm
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: sitting there as we're in that room and there's all
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  Speaker 4: that junk behind and I'm like, you know, this is
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: the kind of dorky place that they would put the
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: fertility goddess statue. And then I saw it and I
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: was like, did I actually see it and I told
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: myself that? Or did I just call it ahead of time?
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Because I'm the kind of dork who also has that
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  Speaker 4: fertility goddess. Yes, you do. So, yes. I've seen it.
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  Speaker 4: It's in my home.
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  Speaker 2: You won't let me play with it.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no. You didn't bring your bag of sand.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: If you would bring a bag of sand, I'd at
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  Speaker 4: least let you do the swap out. All right.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, so we slightly jumped ahead there. But, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 4: even that one. I mean, he didn't pick it up
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  Speaker 4: and look at it. Like, you've kind of got to
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: be paying attention to be like, oh, it's right behind him.
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  Speaker 4: Every time they cut, like, it's hanging out over Woody's head.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 4: My initial take was this is a lot of fun,
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  Speaker 4: and I enjoyed it pretty much the whole way through.
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  Speaker 4: I had a way more serious version by the end
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  Speaker 4: of it that I don't know if we want to
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  Speaker 4: go into now or later.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Let's hold off on that because I think I know
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  Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah. Maybe I was trying to decide if it
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: was all in my head or if it is in
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: the text of the movie somehow, so... Yeah, let's come
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: back to that. So what's some more fun stuff you liked?
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Just jump to Donald Glover, for God's sake.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Donald Glover.
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  Speaker 4: Donald Glover. For the love of God. Can you be, again,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: kind of rock level of charismatic. He is so damn likable,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: it's angering me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I was worried about the guy playing Han Solo, that
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: he wasn't going to be enough Han Solo. For what
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  Speaker 2: we're used to seeing. But I think he did a
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: good job as being a younger version of that character.
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised by how much he sold that.
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  Speaker 4: The attitude was pretty close. You're never going to get exact,
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  Speaker 4: but way more than I expected. I assumed anybody going in.
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  Speaker 4: I'd seen that other weird dude that was posting his
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: videos online. I've watched that and been like, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: So I assumed, I'm like, somebody's just going to be off.
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  Speaker 4: this dude's pretty damn close. Yeah. And just kind of
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: had a different version of it because it's earlier, but
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  Speaker 4: like the, the freaking cocky swagger is there. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: just like, damn it. Like that's, that's hard to do.
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  Speaker 4: And if I didn't realize, cause I was like, where
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  Speaker 4: the hell did he come from? And then I look
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  Speaker 4: back and I'm like, I have seen a couple of
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: things with him in it. And I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, it's not like he's always just doing that.
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  Speaker 4: Like it is specifically for this role that he kind
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: of dialed that up. So, I was impressed with that too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like I was able to kind of put it
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  Speaker 6: out of my mind that I was originally like, he
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  Speaker 6: doesn't look anything like Han Solo. I'm not going to
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: think of him as Han Solo. And then like 10
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  Speaker 6: minutes in the middle, I'm like, nope, suspension disbelief gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the thing. I walked into the theater thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 2: try to remember that this guy can't be The same guy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: It's going to have to be different. And then 10
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  Speaker 2: minutes in the movie, I was like, I don't need
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: to worry about this.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
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  Speaker 4: Mine was like, he's not Harrison Ford, but he's kind
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: of Han Solo.
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: Like by the end, I was like, he's.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: The character and I'm totally buying that. But like, do
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I think he looks just like Harrison Ford?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: No.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: But it's close enough. If you squint, you'll be like, yeah,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: he's Han Solo.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: But there's enough of that character there that I'm like, okay,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about how much better Harrison Ford would
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: have done that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which now not. It's not like it's an option.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: We've seen old guy Han Solo. We just had that
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: a few years ago, and he's fine at doing that,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: but we're not going to return to that any other way,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: barring horrible CG. I'd rather have this.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Let's go down this road if that's what we need
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: to do. At least there was some good casting along
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: the way. Pretty much the whole cast. In fact, this
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: is what I was going to say. I don't know
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: if it's full on negative, but it's the same issue
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I had with Rogue One is we introduced these side
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: characters and I kind of want more with them and
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: then they're gone.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: And this one really early on, like our initial little
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: team that he gets to working with, they're like.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like Woody Harrelson's character, we finished his story.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a lot with him. But everyone else
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: on the team.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: His girlfriend, the guy with the multiple arms, I would
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: love to watch. Both of those. Whole other movies with
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: them in it. And the new guy playing Chewbacca, by
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the way, is amazing.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: That's another one. I assumed so much of the structure
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: of the Chewie face was built around Peter Mayhew that
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: it was never really going to look right. And I guess,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's just a time thing, like
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: if they tried to do it in the 70s with
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: somebody else, if it would have looked all weird, or
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: if it's just they've gotten really good at redoing that mask.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: But yeah, because that guy doesn't look anything like Peter
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Mayhew or.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Even what I.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Again, I finally looked at the picture and I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: did not expect that at all.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: But I would not have... I mean, I stick around
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: for the credits anyway, but I specifically was waiting to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: see who it was because I knew he didn't do
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: it in Last Jedi.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: I think he did.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Did he do it in Last Jedi?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's been there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Because in Last Jedi they have him listed as Wookiee Consultant.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I thought that was Peter Mayhew in... Well, that's what
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I meant.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Peter Mayhew.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Well, I thought Peter Mayhew was in... Force Awakens. Force Awakens, yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Force Awakens, Peter Mayhew was like Wookiee consultant. But even
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: that guy was like the stand-in that I still... Again,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: as much walking around as Chewie does, which Peter Mayhew
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: can't really do easily anymore. So I'm still guessing a
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: good amount of screen time is probably that guy, even
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: in the first one.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: And then in The Last Jedi, he was, I think,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: listed as the main Chewie already.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Either way, it was great, and it was fantastic to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: see Chewie come. Because I know I talked about this
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: at the last one, they kind of just made him
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a background character, but he's back, and he proves that
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: when he's working with somebody else, that character's with somebody else,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he's a great supporting character.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah. When you give him something to do, yeah, he
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: can deliver when... You just have him sitting around a
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: campfire the whole movie. It's not really his fault.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: I'm really glad that they introduced him as like, hey,
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: Wookiees are scary as fuck.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, he was frightening. Like if I didn't know who Chewbacca,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: like he shows up and I'm like excited because I
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: know it's Chewie.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: But if I didn't know who that character was, I'd
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: have been like, what the hell is going on here?
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: This is a powerful creature.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Just like the dark and then you just see like
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: the teeth open up and I was like, ah!
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: There, that was a moment when I was like, are
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: they already kind of hitting like, they already. We'll go
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: back to that in a minute. But there's already like
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: a few beats of like, all right, this is kind
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: of like this version of this. And like, so we
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: get and like throw him in the pit. And I'm like,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: so is this just our rancor for this?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: For a second, it's like the exact same hole in
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: the ground. They're watching the battle. Like he's chained up.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Like it's all kind of.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: When they said feed him to the beast.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Never did my mind go too chewy. For a second.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's going to be a rancor
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: And then as soon as like something started moving around
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: in the dark and we couldn't see it, I was like.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: wait a minute, this is, I was like, this is
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: a great time to kind of work Chewie in and
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: not exactly hit the beat of something. It's kind of
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: playing with us. Like, again, knowing that we're the fans
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: that we are, like we're going to know those beats.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: So they're kind of using that to their advantage and
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: be like, we're going to throw this curve ball at
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: you and it's actually going to be Chewie. Which by
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: the way, Chewie is a beast if you don't know him.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And they didn't spend too much time on it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Because you could have stretched that out for 45 minutes.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: And still had a decent scene, but they're like, okay,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you know who Chewbacca is, but this is where they
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: came from. Let's go on to them robbing trains.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Or whatever was going on. But yeah, that was.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Which they both broke the law really quickly once they
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: got to know each other.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Outlaws and whatnot. But yeah, they did at least with
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the Chewie thing, they made him that force to be
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: reckoned with that we'd always heard about, but like And
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: even in the old ones, he was such a, like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: cuddly teddy bear kind of a character. But, like, they
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: always reference the fact that he's going to pull your
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: arms out of the side.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Which he does.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, we get that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And even, like, I do remember the comics, like, they
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: talk about, like, just how strong Wookiees are. Like, what a,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: you know, a force they are if you have to
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: ever come up against one.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: The fact that we really haven't gotten much of that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Over the years.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: And you just don't see it with like a crossbow, right?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Like you don't get it the same way as if
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: when he's like picking you up.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Right. So it's, yeah, it is kind of good to
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: see like some, some sort of like living up to the,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: the reputation that the Wookiees have. Like I thought that
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: was finally kind of making good on this promise we've
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: had since the seventies. So that was kind of cool. Um, Yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I guess the train robbery. We definitely need to get
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: to the great train robbery.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Well, before that, I thought it was one of the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: funniest moments in the whole movie was the scene with Han.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: And Chewie taking a shower together.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I was. Again, I was like, is this where we're going?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yep, there we are.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: And I was like, well, they get real close real fast.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: So I guess this is their relationship. Didn't see that coming.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden you see Wookiee feet next
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to Han feet. And it's like, wait a second.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Now, granted, I was like, he is a very muddy Wookiee.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: You would not want to stay that way for long.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: So somebody hosed that poor guy down and just didn't
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: know you were going to have to hang out in
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: the shower with him. wet wookie smell that's that's gotta
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: be you gotta hope he's like out in open airy
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: you don't want to be trapped on the ship with
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: that i mean that's but yeah the that whole little
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: group is pretty good though like i could almost have
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: an offshoot movie yeah which now unless we're doing another
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: weird prequel you know it's like but the The older
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Woody character mixed in with I think Val seemed really
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: cool and we get so little with her.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: And then I don't think I realized that that Jon
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Favreau is the guy with the forearm.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't either.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: I knew the voice. I was like, this does sound familiar.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: And then I kind of forgot about it because he
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: was gone so quickly. And then like at the end,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: the credits to go, well, yeah, that's why he sounds
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: so damn familiar. But yeah, that whole little crew was
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: kind of fun and seemed like there's sort of potential there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: And then again, it was, rogue one all over it's
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: like these guys are oh they're dead so like yeah
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: they keep making cool like not that star wars isn't
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: kind of rich with characters right but yeah they've come
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: up with quite a few of these last offshoot movies
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: and then we don't really spend much time with them or.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah i do think that um this treated the characters
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: better than rogue one yeah rogue ones like they were
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: so one dimensional to me and these at least you
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: get some character development before they die.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah It's, again, it's a short window.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I think Rogue One, you had a lot more characters, too,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: that you had to work with.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: But even then, like, as we are introduced to him,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what is that character? The guy with the
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: four arms. I'm just like, that poor guy. Because they're
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: just like, we already got a pilot. And I'm like, oh, well,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: you might as well just pulled out the picture of
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: your girlfriend back home in the war movie. Like, that
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: guy's going down. We're obviously going to have a reason
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: for you to get thrown behind the wheel of this ship, so...
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: I knew he was gone. I was kind of surprised
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Val was taken out that quick. I know. She seemed
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: like she was going to have more to do with
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: the plot.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I figured we'd get at least to the third act.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I thought she'd at least get midway in before something.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that was pretty quick. And again, one of
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: these scenarios that at the time seems cool and epic
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: as the marauders show up and this whole big thing
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: goes wrong. And by the end of the movie, you're like,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: you know, you guys, if you just sat down and talked.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: All those characters dying, the explosion, all this could have
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: been handled a little better with some communication. I guess
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: that's not how things work in the Marauder world. By
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the end, I'm like, you know, for not really being
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: the villains, a lot of stuff went wrong there. That
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: whole segment was pretty cool as far as action stuff
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: and Stuff like a throwback, which, again, Star Wars has
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: kind of always been a throwback to the kind of
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: things you've seen in other movies, but not in this
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: weird sci-fi version of it. So we haven't seen a
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: weird train going around. It's more of a roller coaster,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I guess, than anything. So, yeah, we haven't seen something
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: like that, and certainly not in action in previous Star Wars, so.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the way it tilts when it goes around the mountains,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't think it needs to do that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: I think that's just to make it a roller coaster.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: It just makes it look cool when you're about to
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: fall off.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: It was a little more like Snowpiercer. Yeah, exactly. I
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: got a lot of that kind of vibe, which, again,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: that's its own kind of cool, weird universe. So it's
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: sort of adding a little of that into this one.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: My other sort of echo of previous... before we even
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: got to that, when Han was getting busted and gets
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: going back, the Lady Proxima, I'm like, so here's our Jabba?
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: It's a giant creature that's in charge of everything. And again,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: she was a little, which I don't think I realized
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: was Linda Hunt. Oh, I didn't know that. And as I, yeah,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, yeah, that sounds about right. Now that
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it, that definitely would be fitting of
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: her voice.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: With that, you mentioned Jabba. I was fully expecting the
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: entire movie That's how it would end with Jabba in
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: there somewhere. Kind of, but not really. Well, yeah, but
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: we never directly got Jabba.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they threw it out there.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: We had somebody else that I wasn't expecting, which I'll
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: save till we get. Yeah, yeah. Which I was happy
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and yet confused to see.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I wasn't, but again, I think it depends on how
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: steeped you are in the current Star Wars universe. Well,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: it's not that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: It's something that messes with me, messed with the timeline
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: of everything, but. Again, when we get closer to that,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'll go into more detail.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, we should remember.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: To come back to that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: And I do kind of like the whole beginning there
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: of him... Again, him just racing around the car, I expected,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: but when we get to the trying to make it out... Again,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: it's almost like trying to get across the border, escape
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: from Nazis, which, you know, they're space Nazis. So, I mean,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: that's sort of a different take on something we've seen.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: But then when we get to the him... trying to
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: like hide from the the imperials more or less and
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: and then like you see like because we always like
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: we knew he was an imperial cadet at some point
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: so now you see it's almost of just like spur
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: of the moment all right i want to join like
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: it was just what will get me out of danger
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: right now okay let's join up i need to be
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: a pilot anyway like so i do kind of like
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: that that was.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: At first i was like that's a little weird but
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: then i thought about it i was like no he's
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a young guy He's in trouble. He needs to get away.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: What better way than to join the army?
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Immediately, I want to be a pilot and try to
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: bypass the ending up in the infantry, which then he
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: just gets kicked down to anyway. That, I thought, was
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: kind of cool. In their little recruitment propaganda video, it
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: was playing the Imperial March. I'm like, that's pretty clever.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I like that. It does answer that question of... Because
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: it almost was maybe cheesy shorthand of George himself naming
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: him Han Solo. Where now it's more of like an
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Ellis Island thing. It's just like, I don't know. Here's
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: your name.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Shut up and take it. Go get in line. Like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: it's the same thing that happened to millions of people
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: coming into the country over the years. That, like, it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: just kind of like, here, you don't have anybody anyway.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I can do whatever I want. I'm an imperial officer.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: I kind of, I was like, okay, that kind of
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: makes sense now with who he is and who he becomes.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: And so, yeah, that was, I thought that was kind of, again,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: playing into the references almost, but in sort of a
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: clever way. And then, again, did not expect the battle scene.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Which one?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It was pretty hardcore.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Like, the full on, like, again.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Because it just came from out of nowhere.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: This was something that they did pretty well in Rogue One, that, like,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: in the in the original trilogy we never got the
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: feeling of like war like yes it's war is always
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: listed in the crawl at the beginning but like it's
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: never even in the prequels like for all the giant
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: cg battles it never really felt like war the way
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: that we're used to it where rogue one and this
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: like all of a sudden you understand oh no this
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: is really like taking people out in a horrible way
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: the way that Actual war does, not sci-fi war.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: This was like opening scene of Saving Private Ryan.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of. It was pretty hard.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Some with lasers, some with pew-pews.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: It was kind of, yeah, just enough of that. It
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: didn't overwhelm you. It was a little less than Rogue One,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: but it was just enough to go, oh, yeah, this
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: is why this character is in the scenario he is
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: and wants to get out and is willing to, like,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: what am I going to turn to crime? Fine with me,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: you know, if it gets me out of this. It's
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: not him being such a bad person as much as
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: he's in a bad situation. This is the best way out.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: It's kind of in my nature. I'm fine with it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's still like, you do see they're not
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: left with a lot of good options either. And the
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: more I was like looking at that, and even like
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: kind of the stuff at the train station, I'm just like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: it's the thing that I've continually like more and more
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: fell on board with is like, because again as a
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: kid you're like the empire they're the bad guys and
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: i'm just like the more you get knee deep in
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: this i'm like their politics is such a mess yeah
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: i'm like yes the grand scheme of it is kind
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: of bad and the emperor is obviously evil but i'm
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: like these foot soldiers are just chumps doing their job
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: like they don't know anything like so you're watching in
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: the middle of this battle and i'm like this poor
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: idiot that gets blown up next to him isn't evil
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: He just, again, ended up in the wrong place and
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: thought he was doing the right thing and joining the army,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: and now he's just dying. So, like, the more you
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: get into it, I'm like, every dumb stormtrooper that we
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: watch get taken out, I'm like, they're not evil, really.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: They're just some poor sap that thought he was doing
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: the right thing, thought he was, you know, serving his
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: empire and, like, doing, I don't know. As time goes on,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: and again, the more circular all their ridiculous... politics becomes
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and what a mess the jedis are themselves and how
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: they lead to what becomes the empire anyway i'm just
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: kind of like i don't know that you hate the
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: empire you can hate evil acts right i'm like the
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: empire as a whole is as much of a conglomerated
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: mess as any political system that comes to power so
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: yeah and the more i got into that i was
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: just like yeah i was like i don't know that
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: any of these guys are you know the bad guys
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: they're just In the wrong place at the wrong time,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: same as Han was. There's no liars in this game,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: just players.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Is this seat taken?
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Nobody's in the seat, then I ain't taking friends. So
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: this is, uh, Sabacc?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Sabacc.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Sabacc.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You've played before? A couple times, yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Captain Lando Carrizi.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Han Solo. Looks like you're having a good day.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I'm a lucky guy. Can I ask you a question,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Captain Calrissian? Anything, Han. It's Han, but that's okay. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: heard a story about you. I was wondering if it's true.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Everything you've heard about me is true. I figure at
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: some point we'll have to get, you know, more into
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: the Lando thing. He's... not just again like to the
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: performance as a whole is pretty good but we also
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: get a little more into like i guess the version
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: of him that that we know later it still seems
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: pretty true yeah like the way that it's written is
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: still kind of like yeah he's he's opportunistic at best
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: at every turn like even he's you know he's still
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: more or less a decent person but like You see
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: he's always just kind of like, what's going to serve
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: me best in this scenario? And he takes that and
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: follows through with it pretty much to the point that
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: we meet up with him later.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: And he's trying to build a mystique about himself so
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: that people think that he's a lot more powerful than
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: he is. He's like, this is where my ship is.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Just break into the shipyard here. I keep it in
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: storage to keep it safe.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of capes. That's a lot of capes.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Almost too many capes.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: But then we also, the L3-37, which I, again, knew
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: a little that was coming into this, but I don't
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: think I was prepared for the full-on... character that android writes.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: So amazing yeah so amazing well and it is it is.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Funny because we do get a lot of i mean
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: it's they've always sort of touched on that but we've
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: you know even in the first one there's the we
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: don't serve your kind here kind of a comment but
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: i mean now to the point that we get like
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: you know robots even though they're kind of artificial intelligence
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: in this universe are treated completely like property, that Wookiees
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: are thrown into slavery, that, like, we get all these little, like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: social issues and, like, universal justice kind of stuff that, like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: is sort of being addressed now that was just, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: maybe that's jumping to the future when everything's kind of
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: falling apart by the time we catch up to it
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: in 4 through 6. It's like everything's in a worse
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: state than it is in the prequels and now, so
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: maybe everything's just to the point of acknowledging, like, yeah, whatever,
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: this is the messed up world we live in where
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: now i guess there's still a sort of at least
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: an acknowledgement of these things are wrong and we're trying
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: to write what we can along the way that yeah
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: so it's probably also just our angle as society now
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: versus then but yeah it's very it's very in your
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: face in this.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: Movie yeah Yeah, it's in your face, but it's not preachy.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't hit you over the head.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: It's just a matter of fact.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's very obvious that's the point they're trying to make.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It's not hiding it, but it's also kind of over
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: in the middle.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Again, we've thrown out the spoilers, so that's one of
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: our characters we lose.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I was not prepared for.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: Me neither.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: But they... get to a point, and this is something
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: I'll try to remember to touch back on later, they're
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: putting all the pieces into play, like, they're just putting
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: this puzzle together so well, so much so that once
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: she's gone, more or less, in the physical version, but
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: even then, as, like, Lando's scooping her up, I was like, well,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: can't you still, like, does she have a hard drive? Like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: can't you, like, reload her into a new body? They've
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: done that with R2 how many times now, and 3PO' s
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: been rebuilt a bajillion times, so I'm like, can't you
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: kind of save her? So they end up They do that,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: but it's also as you go on in the Star
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Wars lore, and even so much so in Empire, he's
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: acknowledging the attitude that the Falcon has. And then I've
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: heard that listed, I think, especially in expanded universe stuff,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: that the Falcon is almost its own entity. Like the
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: computer itself does sort of have artificial intelligence. It has
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: a personality that like we don't really get normally, but like,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: you know, we, the three PO lines about the most
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: we get of having a weird dialect and having an
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: attitude and like, so yeah, it's, it's, It then explains
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: why the Falcon is kind of the way that it
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: is because it actually has.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: This character embedded into it. Well, and it was one
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: of those nods that didn't really hit you over the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: head either.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: It's a geek nod.
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: It's a real hardcore geek nod.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just like, okay. Now, again, if you want
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: that explanation, it's there. If not, you're just like, oh, okay.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: So she kind of didn't die.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: It's cool.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: It lessens it a little bit. She's still there. She's
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: just in the ship now. So that's, again, it's also
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: creating that lore of the Falcon that every, I mean,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: we're so like every movie kind of comes back to
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: it now.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: And speaking of that character, I could be wrong about this,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: but I honestly don't remember. I think this is the
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: first like sustained conversation we've had between two basically female
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: characters in a Star Wars movie. Because that conversation that
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: they had about how Lando was in love with, you know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the droid.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Which was funny. And that went on for a few minutes,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: you know, in a good way. But I don't think
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: we've seen that before.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: I kind of think. I mean, the old, you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: fourth or sixth, there's just not a whole lot of
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: female characters, period. So they always kind of fail the
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Bechdel test.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, even prequels.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, they definitely failed in that. Yeah, because they're talking
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: about love.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but I mean, the fact that there are
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: even female characters talking to one another is a step
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: forward in the Star Wars universe. I feel like in
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: the prequels, because they start having political leaders that are female,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: so I do think there's maybe the second one when
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Amidala moves on to the Senate, and then the Queen
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: is the new... the new queen so i think there's
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: a moment there where they're just talking about politics there's
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: not even like guys involved in the dumb conversation but i.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Don't think it was as sustained as a conversation no
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: i don't think it was just a oh we're just
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: letting our hair down and talking about.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Whatever the hell yeah you know again we it's good
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: that we're heading down that road anyway but i was
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: thinking yeah even as big a part as ray is
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: she's usually surrounded by a bunch of dudes so yeah
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: there's probably not a whole lot of that up until.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: This point so And again, of course, one of the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: women was artificial.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: I really liked that last line. She was like, well,
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: how did that work?
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: And then, it works.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: You're like, what? If what I'm seeing on the internet
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: from Japan is true, then yes, it will eventually happen anyway.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: So we're heading down there. I'm saving up is what
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But that's also not a new thing, and
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think I'd paid that much attention, but they'd
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: even going back to the original when they, the fact
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: that droids have gender is sort of strange, but like
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: it has always been there. Like the, the droid that
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Ben has in the prequels, like R4, I think. Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Is a female and was like part of the ship.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: It had a weird backstory, but like, and then I
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: was thinking, actually, if you go back even into the
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: first one, there's like the, the, the droid that's like Taurus,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: that's torturing other droids is a female droid and i'm
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: thinking there's another one too in the original trilogy so
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: like it's the fact that that's there we're getting a
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: sort of semi-main character now that is like noticeably one
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: way or the other but like that's always kind of
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: been there in the star wars universe that is very
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: strange actually.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: And this one is like could is like attracted to
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: to humans and is like just not Lando but just
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: not Lando yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Just not the smoothest motherfucker in the galaxy.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah and that's like all normal but um oh what
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: was I gonna say oh but like she has like
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: it seems like she has a little bit of beef
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: with some dudes like the way she says like uh
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: this guy was talking about like switching her off she's
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: like if you could find it like it's like a
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: classic nice.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: Just kind of like seems like really.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Over it with people Which I guess you would be.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Once again, being almost not even almost. Essentially you are
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: a piece of property to someone else. You'd be pretty
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: tired of their attitude. Especially if you were kind of aware.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: If you had some sort of artificial intelligence. I think
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: it would get old real quick. So yeah, we get
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: that weird middle part there where she's got her riot
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: going on. We've got Wookiees saving Wookiees. So there's a
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: whole Other thing going on, but it's really kind of
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: covered just to steal more stuff. So it's, yeah, it's
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: all of our weird issues kind of get wrapped up
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: in that little middle section. And then we kind of
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: move on with the heisting. One of those, those Wookiees looked... Bigfoot?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they all look like Bigfoot. But there was
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: one in particular that I was like, I know I
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: have seen that somewhere. And then for some reason... My
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: wife and I were talking about Willow today, and I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: looked up the trailer on YouTube, and sure enough, one
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: of the Wookiees does come from Willow. It's the exact
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: same design.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I remember now. It's been so long since I've seen Willow. Well,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: same here. It's been more than 20 years. But I
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: think they made those weird little metal-based figures of all
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: kinds of creatures that barely factor into Willow. And now
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: that I'm thinking about it, I think there is one
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: for that. So, yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Which, on that topic, too, Willow himself was also in
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Working with Ron Howard, again.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Who I was like, oh, yeah, he did direct Willow.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure Clint Howard was in.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: There, too.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: He made his usual, I'm Ron's brother.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Which is funny, because I had, well, this tells you
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: how good the movie was. I didn't, or how much
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I never thought, oh, yeah, that's typical
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Ron Howard. It was more like, why is Clint Howard
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: in this?
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: After the fact, I was like... Because, yeah, I kind
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: of got midway in and I hadn't thought about it. But, yeah,
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, yeah, that's... Because it is funny, like,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: if you go back and look, he really does kind
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: of always make an appearance.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: It's usually just a minor role of like, ah, that's
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: my brother. But, yeah, so it wasn't surprising there. But
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: then it was one of those looking at it after
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: the fact, it was also... I think that's sort of
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: what helps this movie so much is Ron is a
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: really solid director.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: He's a solid director. There's never been a question about that.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: He's never been super showy. He's not really like an auteur.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: He doesn't try to make everything visually the same and all.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: He's not super stylistic in his stuff. He's more journeyman
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: in the fact that he'll take on totally different projects.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: He'll go whatever gets thrown at him. Like this literally
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: got thrown at him. but he's always solid. He really
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: kind of knows how to come in and just put
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: together a good movie. I think what I do kind
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: of wonder if the Lego guys got a hold of it,
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what would have happened to it? Because they're
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: good filmmakers, but on film, the only thing they've done
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: is full-on comedy. So I'm like, again, there's a place
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: for comedic Star Wars. I mean, Look at Robot Chicken. Like,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: they do genius stuff. So, like, it's asking for good comedy,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: but I don't know. Like, I don't think it would
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: have been right for Han Solo. It would have been, like,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: for Ragnarok.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Like, just, like, too much of it.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Which that found a good balance, but I feel like
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: if that's all you've done is, like, if you're approaching
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: it almost from, like, a comedic standpoint, I'm like, how
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: does it not overpower, like, the, you know, the decent
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: action movie that we need Han Solo's.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Backstory to be, you know? So I think we may
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: be lucked out. I don't know. As much as I
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: like those guys.
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: I think the balance was really good. It was like
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: the story was still more important than the gags. I mean,
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: we had like funny characters doing funny things, but it
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: never distracted from the plot or the characters themselves.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: It kind of seemed naturalistic.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Which I just, yesterday I was talking to someone who,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: you know, is a Star Wars fan. I won't go
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: into there. But yeah, I was like, we ended up
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: talking about Last Jedi. I know it's a big surprise
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: me talking about Star Wars. But like for a long time,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: and he just like listed off all the stuff in
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Last Jedi that was kind of rubbing him wrong. And
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: so much of it was the comedy stuff. And I'm like, yeah,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: almost all of the comedy, even comedic relief kind of
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: stuff was so wrong. Just was not suited to the
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Star Wars universe or seemed really forced into that scene
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: where I like I never got that with most of
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: this it seemed like it was just those were the
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: characters and it seemed true to their nature for even
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you know what little time we spent with them like
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: if it was one of those early characters like it
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: just seemed natural to them and not really like over
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: the top like comedic for the sake of haha kids
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: look funny comedy like which it felt like that I
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: don't know that last outing seemed like really even more
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: than most Star Wars.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's what I said at the time, too.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I have no problem with comedy being in Star Wars.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Because you do run through the whole range of emotions.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always some.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think they did find the balance in
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: this one. Because Han has his moments where he's always
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: been funny. He's always been a smartass.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: Again, that is his character.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: He's always had his serious moments, too.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I'm off to my side, see Cookie by my side.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: Han Solo.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: I'm Han Solo.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: I'm a boy, no more kitchen rescue mission where we
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: bought a child to fight. There's no trouble cause we're
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: smuggled if we find the price is right.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: And on this particular night, me and my hookies playing hooky.
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: Wanna see the moto?
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: No, maybe it's good to Nika Noki.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: See, I'm seeking out a sweetheart on the run.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I'm a last one, talking matrimony.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Me and my homie put a fast one.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I'd rather chill with Swillacoy the blonde with the crimp.
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: Let me pimp for a mint for a cat.
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: I'm solo, I'm solo, I'm on solo, I'm on solo.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Uh, yes, sir. May I help you? Oh, I'd like
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: two of those, please. Hot dogs?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: And three of those.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: And one of those.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: And five bars of these.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: And a cup of a nice hot liquid. Coffee.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Coming right up.
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: Oh, and two bags of those peculiar white coffee material.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: You mean our crunchy popcorn. Shall I wrap that for you, sir?
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's all right. My saucer's just outside.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: They come from miles to enjoy our intermission.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: Hey, Sterling.
• 51:03
  Speaker 12: What's up?
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: You like coffee. I do like coffee. In fact, we're
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: drinking coffee right now.
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: Funny enough, we are.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: You know where you should get your coffee?
• 51:16
  Speaker 12: Where should I get my coffee?
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: I think you should go to Heine Brothers and get
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: your coffee.
• 51:21
  Speaker 12: Heine Brothers? I think I used to work there.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: You probably did. A lot of people in this town.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what Louisville is.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: They're kind of like taking over. Actually, driving this past week,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: there was a place that used to be. I won't
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: even out them as the failed massive franchise that they are.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: But they had this place, and it was sitting next
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: to the road, and they sold coffee, and now.
• 51:41
  Speaker 12: Suddenly they're gone. Actually, I think I know exactly what
• 51:44
  Speaker 12: you're talking about.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I just noticed it this week, and now they're gone.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: It's empty, but it's already painted up with the Heine
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Brothers sign. Coming soon, another. Heine Brothers location.
• 51:54
  Speaker 12: You know, you say they're taking over. I say they're
• 51:56
  Speaker 12: our number one community coffee.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Just saying. And I mean that literally. Yeah, I mean,
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: that is kind of why I'm like, you know, it
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: is interesting how much they've continued to spread and become
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: super successful, but yet they're completely independent. They were started...
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: out of this town by a couple of guys and
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: they came up with this process and this general idea
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: of what they wanted to create.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: And it's kind of cool that it's been accepted by
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: people and like people signed on and like, not only
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: do we like your coffee, but we like the idea
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: of this little community that you've created around this coffee
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: shop and this series of now many coffee shops.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 52:37
  Speaker 12: And moreover, Mike Mays, you know, one of our prominent
• 52:40
  Speaker 12: leading businessmen in the, in the community. And I, one
• 52:42
  Speaker 12: thing I can definitely say is that, you know, Heine
• 52:44
  Speaker 12: Brothers has, like many local businesses, been deeply involved in
• 52:48
  Speaker 12: charity work and stuff around town, and that's great. But
• 52:51
  Speaker 12: the thing I like most about buying Heine Brothers coffee,
• 52:54
  Speaker 12: if you don't mind me saying, is the fact that
• 52:57
  Speaker 12: I know that the person behind the counter that's getting
• 52:59
  Speaker 12: paid with the wage from this, like my first job
• 53:02
  Speaker 12: when I got to Louisville was working at Heine Brothers.
• 53:05
  Speaker 12: their first job out of college or in college or
• 53:08
  Speaker 12: whatever is working at Honey Brothers.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Creating Honey Brothers. Yeah, exactly.
• 53:11
  Speaker 12: So to my mind, the nice thing is just you
• 53:14
  Speaker 12: knowing that you're talking to people who are going through
• 53:16
  Speaker 12: a cycle that I think is actually part of the
• 53:19
  Speaker 12: common life that we.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Have here in town. And I was talking with a
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: couple of recent guests. I mentioned that's one of the
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: cool things that's happened this past year or so is
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: that they came on board and they were like, even
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: people outside of our town were just like, wow, that's
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: really cool. And that's one of the things I think
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: is really impressive is that they've gotten to this point.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: They're a successful local business. They've branched out and done
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: more and more and have helped not just charities, but
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: you see them giving back to other people, like other
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: independent operations. Like, I don't know, movie meltdown. They like
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: couldn't exit. Well, that's the thing. There's so many people
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: I've gone to over the years trying to keep this
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: show running and Great job, by the way. Well, I
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: just won't hear back from, or people have come on,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: gotten involved, and then disappeared really quickly. And the fact
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: that they came on board and have continued to support
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: us is a really big thing. And I've even started
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: to see them doing it with other shows. And I'm like,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's a bad thing. I'm like, cool.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Seek out these new different places to not just advertise yourself,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: but to also end doing that you're supporting these independent
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: artists and operations that are trying to do something outside
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: of the norm and normally bigger businesses won't have anything
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: to do with that unless it's cut and dried the
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: generic way that we've always done advertising or however we
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: spread the word about our business you know we only
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: go through newspaper ads because you know that's what the
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: kids read today well and that's and that's actually incredibly
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: vital especially for those of us like yourself and myself
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: who are part of the independent arts community and I'd
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: like to think that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 12: Would you mind if I stuck in a promo myself?
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Feel free.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: Excellent.
• 55:05
  Speaker 12: Well, speaking as a member of the independent arts community,
• 55:08
  Speaker 12: the theater community to be specific, which also thrives on
• 55:11
  Speaker 12: non-traditional businesses, giving us their okay to slap a logo
• 55:15
  Speaker 12: on a program for a show that you've never heard of.
• 55:21
  Speaker 12: I'll be working with the Alley Theater once again, bringing
• 55:24
  Speaker 12: back our Star Trek boldly going way too far.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Way too far.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 55:29
  Speaker 12: Uh, this will be the third mounting of the show
• 55:32
  Speaker 12: that we, uh, premiered and originated, uh, uh, about four
• 55:36
  Speaker 12: years ago, I think at this point, uh, which is
• 55:39
  Speaker 12: kind of amazing because it was a freewheeling, exciting thing.
• 55:42
  Speaker 12: We first threw it together in like a couple of
• 55:44
  Speaker 12: months to, to put it on, to put it on,
• 55:46
  Speaker 12: but it'll be coming back this July, uh, the 12th
• 55:49
  Speaker 12: through the 28th, I believe. Uh, so mark your calendars. Uh,
• 55:52
  Speaker 12: it is an exciting show where we take an adventure
• 55:55
  Speaker 12: through all the different series and of the franchise and,
• 55:58
  Speaker 12: throw in some references and some jokes about other franchises
• 56:01
  Speaker 12: as well. And it's really not only a celebration of
• 56:04
  Speaker 12: Star Trek and all things Star Trek, but also of
• 56:07
  Speaker 12: the weirdness and goofiness that's fundamental, in my opinion, to
• 56:10
  Speaker 12: the show. And not only is that the case, but also,
• 56:13
  Speaker 12: if you arrive and if you are selected to be
• 56:16
  Speaker 12: one of the unlucky few, you too can come up
• 56:19
  Speaker 12: on stage and be a red shirt. You will be
• 56:21
  Speaker 12: given a red shirt and the job of dying to
• 56:24
  Speaker 12: defend one of the more important cast members... before the
• 56:27
  Speaker 12: scene is done.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: It's not going to end well when you put on
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: the red shirt.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: No, it won't.
• 56:32
  Speaker 12: But, you know, as a friend of mine once said,
• 56:34
  Speaker 12: hypothetical scenario, space is being traversed by the human race,
• 56:39
  Speaker 12: and we're traveling to new planets every day, and they
• 56:42
  Speaker 12: say to you, you too can join Starfleet, and they offer.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: You a red shirt.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Would you say yes?
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: The truth is, I think most of us, dear listener,
• 56:52
  Speaker 12: would indeed say yes, if it meant that we got
• 56:54
  Speaker 12: to be on the bridge of the Enterprise.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Or it'd be like, I'd have to get up and
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: leave the house. I'm connected on the internet to everything
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: I need.
• 57:06
  Speaker 12: The 23rd century is no place for slackers.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: I don't want to have to go out on adventures.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: That seems like a lot of work.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Adventures are.
• 57:15
  Speaker 12: Now you're talking like a 21st century geek.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. That's what I keep seeing our society do.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: It's just like, eh, I don't want to leave the house.
• 57:24
  Speaker 12: Eventually, yeah, eventually that's going to be all of our
• 57:25
  Speaker 12: pop culture heroes. They're not going to be the people
• 57:27
  Speaker 12: who are like, oh, heck yeah, I want to go
• 57:29
  Speaker 12: on an adventure. They're going to be like the people
• 57:31
  Speaker 12: who are like, oh man, do I have to defeat
• 57:32
  Speaker 12: the Dark Lord?
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be more like, I'm going to put
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: this headset on and like, go and digitally take.
• 57:38
  Speaker 12: On the universe from right here on my sofa. Dude,
• 57:40
  Speaker 12: I think we've given Ready Player One way too much
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: of our time, okay?
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: So all that having been said, I think you should
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: go to hineybrothers.com slash subscription and sign up for the
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: coffee subscription. And that way you don't even have to
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: live down the street from that new one that they're building.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: You actually can live wherever you want across the country.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe even other countries. You should check the website. But yeah,
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: that way you can have coffee delivered to your door
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: and you don't have to do anything.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Fabulous.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Like everybody in this society seems to want to do.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Just kind of hang out at their house.
• 58:13
  Speaker 12: That's certainly the image we're painting of it right now.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: You can just hang out.
• 58:16
  Speaker 12: As we sit on my couch.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Watch cool videos on your YouTube and drink your coffee
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: that's delivered right to your porch. What else do you want?
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: So yeah, just if you can't spell Heine. Again, maybe
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: you're not from this town. You don't know how they
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: spell Heine Brothers.
• 58:28
  Speaker 12: Just ask a local.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Just go to moviemeltdown.com. Right there on the right hand
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: side of the page. Yeah, that's true.
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: Button.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: There's a little logo that says Heine Brothers Coffee. You
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: click on that, it'll take you right to the website.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: And then, when you're there, more importantly, you use the
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: code MELTDOWN, and you get $ 5 off your order, and
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: that's what we're doing for you. Again, we're trying to
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: give back to you.
• 58:48
  Speaker 12: I'd buy that for a dollar.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Five of them. You'll have five extra ones once you
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: use this code. Meltdown. And from there, you can sit
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: and have extra money to invest in your online internet obsession.
• 59:03
  Speaker 12: So, for instance, if you happen to stumble onto a
• 59:06
  Speaker 12: Patreon page for a particular podcast.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not going to say. Movie Meltdown slash Patreon.
• 59:12
  Speaker 12: But it's a circular business model, and it would really
• 59:14
  Speaker 12: be great if the money that you save thanks to
• 59:17
  Speaker 12: this podcast also goes into this podcast. Sorry, that's not.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Mr.
• 59:22
  Speaker 12: Meltdown over here proclaiming this. I'm just a random guy.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say patreon.com slash movie meltdown, but
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: you know, if you accidentally went there or the link
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: to that, that's on that same right hand side, I'm
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: not going to tell you not to give money to
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: a certain movie on Patreon page. That's, you know, surviving
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: only by you guys and the wonderful people at Heidi Brothers.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: So this is the only way we survive is help
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: from other people. And that's how you build an awesome
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: artistic community of people using the funds that are created
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: through whatever you do and then giving it back to
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: other people to do other cool, interesting things. And then
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: it becomes a circle and we all, we support those
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: businesses that support the independent, cool stuff.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 12: Like tiny brothers.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: So it all, it all comes full circle. So I'm
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: just saying, go do all of that.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: That was a great promo. Go there right now. I'm
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: going to drink some more coffee.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: There's my coffee mug right.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: There.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: All his life, he only cared about one thing, himself.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: But now, the best hotshot pilot in the galaxy was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: playing babysitter to an old man, a green kid, two robots,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: and a princess. Han Solo really had his hands full.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Han Solo is back.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Star Wars is back. Star Wars. Rated PG. Parental Guidance Academy.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: answered in the movies. And now, on with the show.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: Han Solo.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Han Solo.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: You are greatest hero Han Solo You are my favorite
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: hero Han Solo I can't believe you're dead Han Solo
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: Please come back Han Solo I love you. And Soto.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: And Soto.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I love you. Most of mine start jumping ahead into
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: the meat of the plot now. And the unlimited number
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: of double-crosses.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Like, by the end, I'm like, this is, like, film
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: noir level of backstabbery. And almost in that true nature of, like,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: by the end, it almost doesn't matter what the scam
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: is anymore. It's, like, it's crossed over so many times.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: You're just like, I don't know, I like that guy.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I'm just going with that guy. I hope this ends
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: up good. I like that guy. So, like, it crosses
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: over so many that by the end, I'm like, wait, okay,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: what was the real through line all the way through
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: this scam? Like... who got the last sting on who
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: in the middle of planning this out three steps ahead
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: of the other guy. By the end, I was like,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: I don't care. I like Han. Let's just go with him.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Let's see how this turns out.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: It's Han's movie, so I'm okay with sticking with him.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: I just quit worrying about it.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I like Woody Harrelson.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: By the end, I was just like, whatever. Let's just
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: ride this out. I'm not even going to overthink it anymore.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: All of that stuff kind of worked itself out for me,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: but we also get to Again, almost.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: We talked about this recently on the episode. Because we're
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: almost so self-aware that you have people that have grown
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: up on Star Wars and almost writing it with the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: audience in mind. So when we get to the end
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: with Woody Harrelson, Han very blatantly shoots first. There's no questioning.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: So it's almost like, yeah, no, this is what you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: guys want. We're almost making up for the nonsense that
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: we did way back here in this universe by... Let's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: just out and out. Dude didn't even touch his gun.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: There's no questioning. So we're again getting to... We're using
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: almost the real world version of it to get to
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: who the character of Han always is. And we kind
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: of always knew he was. Which is kind of the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: same thing as Lando. I think in the end he's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: a good guy. In this movie maybe more than ever.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: He is through and through kind of a good guy.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: But is not.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: perfect and is not gonna worry about a lot of
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: yeah he's not gonna worry about the rules of anything
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: he's just like I'm still gonna take care of myself
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I'm still gonna take care of the people I care
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: about like whatever I need to do to take care
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: of them it's like let's just yeah like let's let's
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: be realistic here like I'm still a kid who grew
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: up on the streets and I'm gonna take care of
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: myself like so I think he still has that edge
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: to him that he's gonna do whatever he needs to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: do but we do get a ton of like his
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: character is, is also, he's always kind of come back
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: around to kind of doing the right thing. And as
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: it goes on creating the rebellion, essentially, I don't know.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: Can you justify just bouncing with him a millennium Falcon though? Like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: cause he's just, there's no coming back around there. He
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: just like sees Han walk. It's like, Oh yeah, that
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: thing that's.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, I had to go. Well, that was, yeah,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: back to Lando. But again, to me, that's kind of
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: his nature. Like, it's all the way by the end
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: of Jedi before we're kind of like, all right, he's
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: on our side. He's good. But I mean, he kind of,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's the classic turn in the middle of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: Empire that like, he just out and out sells his
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: friend down the river. Like, he's just like, well, this
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: was a better deal for me and I did what
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: I had to do. So yeah, you see that with
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Lando in this too, that In the end, he wants
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: to be a good guy, but the protecting himself kind
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: of wins out with Lando.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: And that's just so much more realistic. Anybody else catch
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: the line about how mining colonies are the worst from Lando?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Again, there's a lot of dorky little references in this.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: So many.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I was impressed not just with the performance of Donald Glover,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: who was great in it, but the depth, which I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: did not think we were going to get that much
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: depth from Lando at all.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: And and a good amount of screen time like i
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: thought it might have been way further in i guess
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: we need the ship pretty early and he.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Came in at the right time too because yeah when
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the movie started i was like all right when are
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: we gonna get to lando but then by the time
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: you get there it's like oh yeah oh yeah yeah
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: lando's in this too.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: And they kind of because we again it's the whole
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: weird star wars lore it's like we know the game
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: where he wins it but they almost play that of
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: like So you're assuming he's going to win the ship
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: from him in the beginning and you're like, oh, no,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: because he's cheating. Once again, it's kind of his nature.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Which was a great touch, you know.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so it's like eventually we're like, and this
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: is something I want to ask that I eventually wanted
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: to get to is like, they're very definitely, and I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: don't know if this is to its disadvantage, but when
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: you get into something that's this prequel, sort of prequel,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: side prequel, whatever it is, It so has to thread
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: these specific areas and then pull it all tighter by
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: the end. That it's like, okay, well, we know he
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: gets the Millennium Falcon. Like, we know. Like, there's some, like,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: little left turns you can do along the way. But
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: by the end, we know we've got to set up.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: And then he gets the Falcon. And then, like, well,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: we know we're going to lose that escape pod.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: And then we lose... So, it's like they almost have
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: so much... They have to check so many boxes by
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: the end of the movie that I'm like, is it...
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: is it almost taking away from it because we can't
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: go into it like any normal movie that we don't
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: know anything about. Like you can't be like, Oh cool.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: I wonder what's gonna happen next. There's always something in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: the back of your mind, assuming you've seen the rest
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: of the universe that you're just like, okay, well this
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: has to happen. This has to happen. He has to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: win the Falcon. He has to like, you know, everything
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: is leading so specifically to where we know he ends
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: up that does it take away from trying to tell
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: a somewhat original story? I don't know what, What is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: your take on it?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: I think that the movies like that could allow for
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: ending before he gets the Falcon or before. I don't
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: think that it's an obligation of the movie because they
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 6: can always just say that happens after this little story.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I get the feeling we're getting two more of
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: these anyway.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: That's kind of where I landed.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Which is fine.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: I was like, I feel like it's pulling those strings
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: really hard in this one, but we've almost kind of
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: nailed down.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of the stuff already. Well, that's the thing.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: I mentioned like with With the escape pod and you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: finally seeing the mandibles. They just really kind of skimmed
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: the surface on that like they did with Mean Chewy
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: and the Kessel Run. I audibly groaned the first time
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: they mentioned Kessel.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, of course. Here we go.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't that bad. They could have spent, like
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I said, the entire movie on just those topics.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: Individually. And it was still kind of like A weird thing. Like, again,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: I was expecting it to become more of like the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: freaking pod races.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: Where it was like a very official oh you gotta
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: like it's NASCAR gotta make the Kessel Run in.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Less than 20 I was thinking of like a cannonball
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: run sort of thing yeah I was like I was
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: afraid it was gonna be a big huge part of
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: this plot like months ago when they said that was
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: coming into play I was just I really was expecting
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: which again there's a perfect example of The pod.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Race is like 25 minutes. It just goes on, or
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: it certainly feels like at least 25 minutes. It goes
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: on for such a huge section of that movie. There's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: elements of it I like, but it just brings it
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: to a grinding halt. I'm just like, this is already
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: kind of a slow movie, and you guys found a
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: new level.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I remember when that came out, I was so excited. Oh,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: a new Star Wars. And then halfway through, I was like, man,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be upset at a new Star
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Wars movie, but when is this gonna move on?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, Sebulba's pretty badass. Like, that's the only, like,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: there's some fun characters along the way, I think he's cool, but, like,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: it really is just three times longer than it needs
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: And the idea of the pod race, okay, I'm on
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: board with that, but cut it down.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, again, it is building his character, it's how he
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: learns to pilot anything and then move on to ships
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: and whatever, so, like, it fits, but it's, like, yeah,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: that's one where they, like, went and then it was
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: George's fault, so He took it way too far down
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: that rabbit hole. So this, I think they just touch
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: on it, and they get in what they need to do,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: and we're moving on with the plot.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: So this is a fair balance. I mean, the idea
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: of that maelstrom or whatever that they were flying through,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: that was pretty intriguing.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: That was pretty cool.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: You don't know what's going on, because they mention that,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: and then they come back to it later. So you're like, oh,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I guess the castle run, they have to fly through this. Okay,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: now I'm a little intrigued.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it changed what I think maybe everybody was kind
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: of expecting it to be. And then, but yeah, it's like,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: like I was saying with, it's like, okay, we already
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: see he gets the blaster that we know. Like, again,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: it's the geeks are just like, oh, there it is. Like,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: it's like, he's already got the blaster. He's got the ship.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: He's got the ship looking like it normally does. Like,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: there's all these things that already kind of fell into play,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: but we've got a few like open ends still hanging
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: out there that I'm like, okay, so I'm assuming we're
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: coming back to this specific storyline. And again, trilogies as
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: they're known for, I'm not going to be shocked if
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: they do two more in this little timeline before we
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: get to episode four timeline. So it's like, I'd be
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: okay with that actually.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: Especially now that we've sort of got all that out
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: of the way, like it kind of frees you up
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: that like, Because that was sort of the thing with, like,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: episode three. Like, by the end, like, that last half
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: of the movie, I'm like, well, we know where we
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: have to go. Like, everything by the end of this
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: movie almost has to end up exactly where we know
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: it's going to be 20 years down the line. So, like,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: it felt like you couldn't do anything else with the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: end of that saga. Where now that we've gotten all
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: the Han... like gimmicks out of the way it's like
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: it kind of frees them up that like all he
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: has to be is on Tatooine in a decade you
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: know and like still hanging out with Chewie like we're
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: pretty sure Chewie's not gonna get killed other than that
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: like everything else is pretty open now yeah.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: This movie left questions but the good sort of questions
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: like okay so how does he get involved with Jabba um.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: Or just characters. Like now we, and if we want
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: to go ahead and jump to, but I mean, even like,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: like as much time as we spend with Kira, like
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: she's really kind of a cool character and you do
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: get to this, like this terrible little backstory that we
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: never really get. And we're don't want to, because it's
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: all of just like, yeah, you made it out and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: you went to war and things suck for you. But
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think you realize how bad things suck for me.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: I was trapped there, and I was still kind of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: a prisoner. And by the way, I'm a girl, and
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: things are going to be 9,000 times worse stuck in
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: any situation like that. So it's like we never really
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: get to the point of the horrible life that she's
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: had in this three-year span. It's like it's been just
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: a little bit of time, but I feel like the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: life that she had to lead is probably... Again, we
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: just touch on it, but every time she's just like.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Even Woody Harrelson's character was like, don't go looking into it.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: But even with her, she's just like, yeah, I'm not
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: really the girl you knew. I've lived a lot of
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: horrible shit in three years, and this is who I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: am now.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Then we see what she does at the end of
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: the movie. It's like, God only knows what she's been through.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: And where it's taken her. It is the last of
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: the double crosses, I guess, because then it's like, Well, now,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: even if she didn't want to, this is the life
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: she's leading. And, again, it's survival. Like, she, from that
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: point on, has just been trying to survive. So, it's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: what all of them are kind of doing. It's definitely
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: what Lando is doing. It's kind of what Han was
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: doing the whole way. So, we see her of, like,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: this is my best move. Like, I don't like it.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: I don't like who I'm aligned with now. But now,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: I just got bumped up the ladder. And this is
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: my best move at this point.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: So I'm assuming, especially because she's also a pretty recognizable name,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: that they're going to want to bring her character back in,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: which I'm fine with. Because I think we've just sort
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: of touched on who she is, and there's definitely a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: lot more room to kind of write her into a bigger,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: more fleshed out character.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: I think she could be a... I'm hesitant to say
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: she could carry her own movie, but I think she
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: could be a bigger supporting character in a non-Han Solo movie.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Again, now that we're getting all these timelines
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: crossing over, that's potentially where we could go. And then
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: who her boss is, do you want to go ahead
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: and jump to that?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can go ahead and start talking about that.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's, again, surprisingly, I had not heard
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: it leaked out even as early as I saw it.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised I hadn't, but I hadn't been paying attention
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: to the Twitter feeds or whatever.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Before we get into it too deep, when she's talking
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: to him, And we're going to find out who Drayden's
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: boss was. I fully expected it.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: To be the Emperor. Even as it showed the cloak,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, well, here comes our normal.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, that doesn't sound like the Emperor, but.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, we got the Emperor-hooded CG, like, little hologram
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: version in one, two, three, four, five movies before this,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: at least. Did they work him in Rogue One? I
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: can't remember. But, like, all of the other ones almost...
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: we get a version of that that pops up. So like,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: I must say, all right, here's our usual. So once again,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: they're kind of knowing the geek knows this hand. So
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: we're going to throw an extra wild card in here.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I almost thought it'd be Snoke for a second.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Again, because it could, they're almost playing with like everything
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: that we know.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: This is almost way harder than like when George had
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: to do it because he didn't have all these weird
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: expectations and fan theories. He just wrote whatever weird stuff
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: he wanted. But now that we've gotten to this point, like,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: They almost have to play two steps ahead or put
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: down a wild card that you didn't see coming just
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: to mess with you. Like, it is almost like they're
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: working against the audience now because everybody knows everything so
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: quickly and everybody has their own theories and is angry
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: if their theory doesn't match up with your theory.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Even though they were angry about the theory they came
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: up with the first time.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: And then when it turns out to be something different,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: they're upset.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: Fans are ridiculous.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: But no, when it.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: And I know I'm one of them, but.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: You know, right there, Darth Maul.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: But then I was like, all right, this makes sense
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: because in everything outside of the cinematic universe, he's had
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: a whole nother run and he's had a huge other
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: life that took place after he goes down the chute
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: in Phantom Menace.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: But is this before he goes down the chute or after?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Because if it's before, and this is what I was
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: talking about with the timeline, if this is before, this
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: makes Han so much older than Anakin.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: This is, this is, because this is 10 years, it's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: kind of right in the middle. It's 10 years before
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: episode four takes place.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: So it's after Anakin's already turned. It's after, so, I mean,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: Darth Vader's already out there. Luke, I guess at this
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: point is like a little kid. He's probably like nine
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: or 10 sitting on Tatooine. So this is the in
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: between point, but it's also past the point of Clone Wars,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: I think, because Darth Maul and the animated stuff has
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: come up in, which I think both of those are
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: still considered canon now. It's one of the few things
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: they kept with the Disney takeover was the animated, the
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: second animated Clone Wars, and then the Rebels is definitely
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: written by their same group of people, more or less.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: So he's popped up in Clone Wars and had robotic
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: spider legs.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: But then when he came back in Rebels, which I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: think takes place after this, he just has regular mechanical...
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: It's almost more of like a... I don't know. It's
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: just like a weird mechanical humanoid.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Well, we've learned there's no body part they can't replace.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, basically. And even then, when he gets cut in half,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: even in Phantom Menace, when later those theories were, once again,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: I swear, I think it just came from fan theories eventually,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: and they went, that's not a bad idea, and they
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: just kind of ran with it. But, I mean, even then,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, we know nothing about his weird race,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: and we don't know.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: What, I mean.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: It could definitely be pretty easy for some, you know,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: certain animals in our world can, like, lose half of
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: their body and still, like, you know, regrow a tail
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: and come back. And so I'm like, it's not that
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: far-fetched that, you know, this weird race we know nothing
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: about could survive that. But also because I feel like it's,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: once again, them, it's sort of the Han shot first.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: It's them making good. It's like, yeah, this character was
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: really cool, and we did absolutely, like, we shafted him
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: literally and figuratively. We gave him nothing to do in
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: that movie except be a badass, which he was, but, like,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: he had no character development, no lines. and, like, there's
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: so much more we could have done with him, so
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: I think they realized that mistake, and were like, okay,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: how do we fix this, and, like, in the animated stuff,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: they started going, okay, how about we bring him back,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: and we make him, like, once again, he kind of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: crosses that line in the middle there of, like, not
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: even being a bad guy, like, he's sort of the
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: middleman of, like, helping the Jedi, but he still kind
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: of ends up, like, turning, so, like, you never really know, like,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: he hates the Empire at some point, because, again, he's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: kind of, get boys used by them and left for dead.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: So like, you see, like, I kind of liked that
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: turn when he's in the middle and he's like, he's
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: helping them fight against the empire, mostly because he got
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: screwed over by him. So again, that was knowing like
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: how much other outside of the film version of his
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: life he's had. I'm like, okay, obviously it's a good
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: place to work him in, especially cause we're in this
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: mid point of the timeline. So I, that's another one
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: of those, like if we're doing two more movies, uh,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: Now they've set it up. I'm assuming he's coming back
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: as a bad guy.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: I have no problem with the Han and Darth Maul showdown.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: I can definitely watch that. And, yeah, he's already recrafted
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: another version of his, which I think they said is, like,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: an Inquisitor lightsaber.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: That would be a really cool, like, solo, like a,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: not Han solo movie, but a solo movie for Darth Maul.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: Because you were saying that, like, Kira wouldn't necessarily make
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: the best, like, you know, her own movie.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I think she's great as a supporting character, and I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: would like to see her in a larger role.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: A supporting character in Darth Maul's movie.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: In the Darth Maul movie.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Yes!
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see that.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: When they keep going down that road of, like, wanting
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: to give villains their own movie, I mean, we're gonna
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: watch the Venom movie in months or so, like, it
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: seems like a move that's not that far off now,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: especially somebody who has that, like, they're not a full-on
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: villain at this point in their timeline, so, like, You've
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: definitely got a lot of interesting angles you can play
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: with there.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: And we need a solid movie for a bad guy
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: at some point. Or someone on the wrong side, at least.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because we had three with Anakin, and they're just weird.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: I don't hate most of it. Again, I've come to
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: appreciate the good stuff along the way, but it's still
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: just such a weird and almost sad story. I mean,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: not even sad in the way they meant it to
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: be like, lame by the end I'm like the badass
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: that Darth Vader becomes or at least again in the
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: lore is like when you look back I'm like Anakin's
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: such a chump and like again I'm not even like
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: throwing Christensen down the well I don't think he does
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: that bad of a job as much as everybody else
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: hates him I just feel like the character yeah again
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: George is not helping anybody the screenplay itself is a
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: little off so like it wasn't his fault But even
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: on top of that, just the character of Anakin, like
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: it's just getting duped every step of the way. And
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: like where you see like in the next series, Luke
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: is just sort of strong and like fights back. Anakin
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: easily caves and turns to the dark side. So like
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: the more we delve into the Anakin story, the more
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: sad it is. So it would be kind of cool
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: to see a dark. side character doing something actually cool
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: and great yeah that is kind of and again has
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: like a weird gray area there where we're at this
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: point in the timeline darth maul would have where he
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: could kind of be playing both sides of of i
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: don't like the empire anymore but i'm also not really
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: a good character so again maybe a couple of steps
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: up on the on the han solo version but yeah
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: i don't know i think there's definitely potential and and
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: them knowing their what side they're uh Fred is buttered on.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to want to come back just
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: because people like the character of Darth Maul. So I
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: think he's going to come back or they wouldn't have
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: bothered to throw.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: It in there.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: There's definitely a pop in the theater.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was excited.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: And my wife, who has not seen episodes one, two,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: and three, wanted to know why I was squeezing her
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: hand so hard when he popped up on screen.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: Who's that weird dude? Which, again, it is interesting, like,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: And now I think I found out why after the fact,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: but I was like, no, that's Ray Park. Like they
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: really got him to come back. And I was like,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: it does look like an older Ray Park, which he
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: really is now, obviously. But then I think why? Because
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: the original one was pretty much all makeup, like physically.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: Where this one, I think they just took Ray Park
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: now and like did the whole CG version of it.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: So I think that's why he looks so much more
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: like Ray Park. Maybe than he did with the makeup on.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: It actually is just using his face now. So I'm like,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: that's kind of cool to see an older, different version
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: of Darth Maul now. So that's, again, I think the
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: Darth Maul's got a lot of potential. Oh, yeah. Know
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: what they do with it? Who knows? But they could
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: just snope him next time and sell him down the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: river once again.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's nice to see them redeeming that character
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: after 20 years.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: You know? Yeah, it's taken a long time.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: And I know that with Clone Wars and Rebels that
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: he was in there and he was supposed to be awesome.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: With all the buildup that they gave us of that
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: guy and then just to see him get six minutes
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: of screen time and get cut in half.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: Again, he's the Boba Fett of that series.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: He got built up to be a badass. He kind
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: of is for the little amount of time we have
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: with him, but then he gets taken out like a chump. So, yeah,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: but he didn't even get the running. At least Boba
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: Fett got two, I'm going to say two of those movies. Granted,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: they crammed him into one after the fact. But, yeah,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: mostly he's in two of those movies, or as much
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: as you get before you get eaten. So, like, yeah,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: it would be kind of cool to see them, like,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: totally make good on sort of the mistake that George
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: made a long time ago.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: But that makes me more comfortable to know that all
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: of this is post him getting chopped in half yeah
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: yeah because the thought of having a han solo that
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: is 10 15 years older than his best friend's dad
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: and you know what would really the the original trilogy
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: that would really just make me uncomfortable.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah this i mean that and i was watching like
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: you can see there like you can see sort of
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: the outline of the weird shape of what looked like
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: kind of similar legs to what he had in Rebels.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: So it is him sitting there with weird robot legs.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Which may be why it didn't just do a floating head.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: I think they specifically did it.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: They can go ahead now.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: We've got the goal. But this is one that, like,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: and maybe this ties back to that other thing I said,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: because it got a pretty decent response from people as
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: far as, like, reviews and even like fans what I've
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: heard again I haven't been paying too much attention because
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: I try not to before we discuss it but it's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: been pretty decent you know overall murmur from fan base
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: but the one thing that I bothered to read before
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: I got here was it was like yeah it was
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: fun and it's a decent you know version of Han
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: Solo more or less but it doesn't add anything to
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: the Star Wars universe does that seem true again to
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: me it's like maybe because.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: It doesn't add it doesn't add so much that you're
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: like Well, okay, this happened, but that contradicts everything that
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: happened in 4, 5, and 6.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: That's what I said. I think because it's threading all
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: those things so specifically, it can't add too much.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: Like, I guess it can give a little depth to him,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: but it can't go anywhere else plot-wise that we don't
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: already kind of know is coming. So I think that's
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: their own... By doing a prequel, your hands are tied
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: somewhere down the line. You've got some freedom, but not
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: all of it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: It's like in episode four when Luke is first at
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Ben's little hut or whatever. And Ben is like, this
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: is who I am. This is who your dad was.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: After you see the prequels, you're like, no. All that's wrong.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: Obi-Wan is the worst liar ever. So maybe that's also what, again,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: the people running it now, Disney and Lucasfilm and all
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: of it, are maybe super self-aware now. Because you see George,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: and as much as he pretends like he had a plan,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: you see him constantly, even in those first three, start
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: to contradict himself. Or be like something he sort of
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: had a half an idea of in this movie. And
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: even by the next movie, he's like, no, no, no,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: never mind, scrap that. We're going to do this. So
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: you can see him already making those adjustments.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: No, I swear to God, they were brother and sister
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: the whole time.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: That kind of stuff. You can see him just midway
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: in going, okay, so his father didn't die. How about
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: he was just saying... So he's already coming up with
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: cover stories in his first trilogy. By the time he
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: had the prequels in, he's backpedaling so hard that I
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: feel like in these, Rogue One and this movie, and
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: even what little they're doing going forward with 7 and 8,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: they know they have to have these so airtight. Because
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: I really don't remember a lot of weird issues with
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: the timeline in Rogue One. And then even in this one,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: it's like, no, everything comes together exactly like it needs to.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: But it does raise new questions about the fact that
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: with Rogue One, the fact that somebody designed it that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: way on purpose.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: And then all these thousands of people were murdered for
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: no real reason trying to get the plans.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: But I feel like it doesn't leave those weird loopholes.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: It opens up new cans of worms.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: It opens ethical questions.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: But it doesn't really like, again, it's not like the
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: George version of like, Oops, probably shouldn't have said that.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: oh well let's just pretend like.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 11: That is what it is let's just pretend like it
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 11: never happens sometimes so i feel like now they're so
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 11: super aware of that they're just like no no no
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 11: we got to make sure like whatever you guys are
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 11: planning let's go ahead and figure out what we're doing
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 11: or at least enough that the backtracking doesn't create weird
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 11: holes that we know can't come true later.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: So I feel like that's why you're not going to
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: get a prequel or anything like shoehorned in the timeline
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: that can do too much. Like it can just be
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: kind of a fun, entertaining, which I guess both of
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: these have been that like they've been really entertaining and
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: like kind of fun in a way that escapes the,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: the normal Skywalker storyline. Um, But I feel like there's
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: only so much they can do within the context of
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: the universe because they have to end up where they
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: have to end up. So, I don't know. That was
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: like the more after I read that, I was like,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's not really their fault. That's what you
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: get yourself into when you're making something in this scenario.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: It's got to be tough, especially with someone with this
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: big of a fan base.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: And is the point... I'm just kind of thinking, is
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: the point of the movie to add anything to the universe...
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: Or is it just to give visualization? Yeah.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Well, if we're going to go down that route, the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: point was to put asses in seats.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: The point was to put asses in seats and to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: just give people a show of what they already know.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like they should add something to it. Yeah,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: I agree. I feel like they should add character and depth.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: Because I feel like you can almost take that the
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: bad way, which is kind of what I feel like
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: happened in the prequels. Like, I feel like he's like
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: backtracking then going, okay, this is what I'd said over
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: the years. Now got to find a way to fill
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: in all that time. So like you get a lot
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: of like middle nonsense, which is most of what's going
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: on in Phantom Menace, a lot of attack of the clone.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: So it's not till you get to that last movie
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: that you're like, okay, yeah, now we have to, but
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: he was just kind of making up shit in the
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: beginning because he'd already like, he felt like he had
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: to make up a backstory to, fill in the details
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: where I'm like I'd rather just have somebody write good
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: stuff that kind of like enriches what we already know
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: exactly and not.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: Just fills it out flushes it out not.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: Like make up stuff to have a bigger universe like
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: we don't need to add too much to it that's
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: uncalled for that's just unnecessary bullshit like we don't need
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: that we just need it to give a little more
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: depth to what we know yeah.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah and I guess they did add a little bit
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: to this because at the end you find out Who
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: the other gang is, and that that potentially, possibly leads
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: to the birth of the Rebellion.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean... So I guess... I.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Didn't think about that until just now, but I guess, yeah,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: that does kind of add... Because I know nothing about
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the Rebellions. I know it's been covered
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: in the Expanded Universe, but.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: Which, yeah, I mean, we... It is such a specific timeline,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: and we've now seen what leads to the Empire, but yeah,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: it's like, we know... By the time we get to
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: episode four, how, like, overwhelming and how powerful they are.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: So you do, like, how did this get to that
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: point where there was already... Because the rebels, being the
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: ragtag they are, like, they're still organized by that point.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: They've got a whole fleet of ships. Not a huge
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: fleet of ships, but a fleet of ships.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: But those things cost money.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: And you're going to have to pay your soldiers.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: So this is like.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Regardless of how good your intentions are. So where did
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: all that money come from? And now that I know
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: that they're stealing or selling stolen fuel.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. To pay for it.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: That makes a little more sense.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: And it gives you a timeline there of like, okay,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: so this is a decade of that stuff building up
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: to when we get to meeting up with Leia running
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: everything by that time. So, yeah, it is kind of
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: like a good starting point that, again, if they go
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: two more on this, I'm assuming we'll get a little
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: more detail on that somewhere along the way.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: And I was glad to see they didn't, much like in.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, Force Awakens. They didn't make us wait three movies
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: to see who the person behind the mask was.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: Or make it sort of ridiculous like it is in
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: Phantom Menace.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: Because then they never really out and out. There's no
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: Phantom of the Opera reveal of, oh my gosh, it
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: was the Emperor. They never say it. It's just so
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: like if you're watching those chronological, by the time you
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: get to three, you're like, Who's this little guy in
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: the closet? It doesn't even make sense. It only works
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: in reverse for fandom purposes of like, oh, this is
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: how he gets to be the emperor and the old
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: weird looking dude. So if you're watching it in number order,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: it's just like this really drug out story of this
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: senator and emperor of the whole universe, more or less.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: But it's still just political nonsense for so long. And
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: if you don't know what's coming, you're like, why are
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: we spending so much time with this old bastard? So
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: it is weird how much they drug that out and
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: never really had a reveal.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: Ever.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: Even by the end of 3, we get the reveal
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: of Darth Vader, but we don't ever get the... I mean,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: he just looks like that. He's still just president of
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: the universe, and he now is a weird disfigured old
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: dude in a robe.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: I guess it's like you said that people... I guess
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: George Lucas felt like, oh, the fans will know who
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: this is.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: They'll get it. They'll know.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: It's obvious, but I'm like, well, but you're the one
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: numbering them, so if you're making little kids growing up
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: watch them in order, this is horribly laid out.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: It's obvious to us because so many times we've seen
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: those movies.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: Again, it's just, I think it is them sort of
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: learning from all these, like, it's all these decades of
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: mistakes now that, like, I do feel like at least
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: there's such a huge team running this now that they're
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: just like, alright, we gotta get our ducks lined up here, like,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: we gotta figure stuff out, we're gonna We're going to
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: do this in a succinct manner, but we're going to
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: keep it interesting and fun. And so I do feel
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: like they're trying to cover all their bases and so
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: far they're kind of doing a good job.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: I think there've been a couple of missteps here and there, but.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: A lot of them in last Jedi, like, yeah, I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: don't want to jump on that bandwagon, but it was,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: as I was discussing it with him yesterday, I was
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: just like, yeah, there's a lot of problems I have
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: more than like the, just the more time goes on,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: the more I think about it. I'm like, Yeah, that
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: doesn't really sit right.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: This goes back to my argument, though, that I've been
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: making for the past two or three years that they're
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: cranking these things out way too fast.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: That is something I was going to ask, but that's
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: the only other thing I saw other than that one
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: comment about the adding something was also how not so
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: impressive it did at the box office this weekend.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: We talked about that when we talked about it being
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: pushed back because... They didn't want to come out the
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: same weekend as the Avengers.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was going to be like one week apart then. Clearly,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: that was a smart move. It would have been annihilated
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: by them if it was that close to the Avengers,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: because the Avengers stayed on top for weeks.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Because if I'd had a choice between going to see...
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Because I was not... Up until about two or three
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, I was not excited about the Han Solo movie.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: At all.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: When did Ron Howard take over as director?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: It was a while ago. It was last summer, I think.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: It was a while ago, and.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: But that's another thing though. Last summer we were talking
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: about how this is going to be made. Now it's
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: already out and it's hard to make quality in that
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: short of time.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: But it was quick turnaround in general. I think just
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: shooting itself was like, like principal photography was like February
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: of 2017. Yeah. That's for something with this much huge budget,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: this kind of cast, that many special effects to be
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: taken care of after the fact. Like, That's a really
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: quick turnaround. Especially to move the data.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: I guess it was kind of a limited cast. It
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: wasn't like a huge cast. So I guess they could
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: work with that.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: It's still one of the. They said it was one
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: of the. Again the bar keeps getting raised. But one
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: of the most expensive movies ever. Because it's Star Wars.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: Because they brought in all these names. So it's like
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: it's a huge budget. To then have to kind of
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: recoup on. So when it does kind of. maybe half
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: of what they thought it was going to do. It's
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: pretty minimal. I think I actually had what it said.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: I get the feeling, though, that it will probably, maybe,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but it'll probably pick up over the
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: coming weeks.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: I think so, too, because I think a lot of
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: people were just expecting it to be a big heaping turd.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 6: and then hearing the good stuff coming out then i
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: think people will catch on.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah i mean i walked even last night when i
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: walked in there i was like.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: This better be worth you know worth.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: The price of the tickets i paid to get in
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: because movies ain't cheap anymore.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: And yeah what i this is what i saw earlier
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: it's like disney and lucasfilm division spent at least 400
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: million to make this and Now they're saying it will roughly,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: their estimation, because we're going into the weekend, but its
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: estimation is 101 million over the entire Memorial Day weekend,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: which for an opening, which they said for a movie
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: opening is great. For a Star Wars movie opening, it
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: is a big letdown. So that's the, they also mentioned
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: Star Wars fatigue, which I think is a, cap of
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: like a title for what you've been saying for a
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: while now so i hate.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: To sound like a broken record like with that i
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: really do but.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: Well and i think it's just because it's such a
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: quick like date like again if we were if we
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: were having a life day celebration if it was a
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: year since i saw snope get cut in half you
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: know it's like i'd probably feel like all right but
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: like i don't have a problem with it because it
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: was fun but i do feel like when you start
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: looking again this is all such a business and again
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: when you've got Disney running it like they know their
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: business end of the deal so like to me that's
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: almost like a misstep for everything else they're doing right
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like why would you I know there's the summer
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: movie thing and action movies and sci-fi does really well
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: in the summer but the same time i'm like when
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: you just had one.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 14: July five months ago like when we're used to a
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 14: year at a time five months ago we were sitting
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 14: here talking about snope like that's a quick turnaround for
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 14: such a huge big budget movie in the same universe
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 14: you know it's like i don't know i do think
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 14: that was a weird call on.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: How many years was lucas working just on the first screenplay. Yeah.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: You know, and now we're getting a movie a year.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: And my fear is that we're going to start getting
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: two of these a year.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: That's, that's probably too much. Like I was okay with the,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: that every Christmas, because then it gave you like, and alternating,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: because then we don't come back to the same timeline
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: once a year. It's every other year before we are
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: knee deep in exactly the same story we were last time.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: It's the same universe, sometimes crossover characters, but it's still
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: like a different timeline more or less of what we're
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: dealing with. So, I think that was just a weird
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: call on their part, and I think that's part of it.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: That would be the only fans ever to be like,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: you need to slow down. I don't want this immediately.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: Which does go against the way everyone's consuming media now.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: Now you sit down and marathon your way through an
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: entire season of a show.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: I got one another season right now. I binge watch
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: every show I can. Some shows I wait until it's
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: in a format that I can binge watch it.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: So I can binge watch.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 6: It's kind of like comics. I wait until the trade
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 6: comes out. I don't hate reading stuff.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, this is the opposite of that. It's like,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: give me time to digest it. Give me a time
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: to even watch it a couple of times before I
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: see the next one. Because I don't know about you guys,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: but I walk into Star Wars movies. The first time
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: I see it, I'm sitting there going, Star Wars, Star Wars,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Star Wars. And then the second time I go back
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: and watch it, I'm like, oh, yeah, I didn't catch
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: that before. I didn't, you know. But now it's just like, oh, man.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: But we're finally starting to veer off and get, there
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: was a lot of first times in this one.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: This is the first time there's no R2 and 3PO
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think about that.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: Still got a minor appearance of Anthony Daniels, so he's
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 4: still in every one. I thought I heard his voice. Yeah,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: it's a voiceover, but still worked him in. He's still
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 4: in every damn movie. But then.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: I'll support that.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: I'm okay with it. Again, because, I mean, the same
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: thing with, you know, Willow shows up. Like, he's in, like,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: ten different projects now over the years. So, it's like,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: you know, all of these, like, we have our little family.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: It's like, we want them all to be in everything.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: He's looking pretty buff, too.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: He's, again, that's like.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: He's held up well.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking. I'm like, to have been
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: in the original trilogy... And still, like, look kind.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: Of the same.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was in the original trilogy. Yeah, he's Wicket. So, like,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: he's the first one, and then he's been in all
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: of the prequel stuff, and then he's worked his way
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: into these last two.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: Because I was just excited by the, oh, he's Ron
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Howard connection. I totally forgot about Wicket.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how he got to be anyone, was coming
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: and being an Ewok. So, good for you, Warwick Davis.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, I feel like that's kind of part of
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: it now, is.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: I did, just because we've gone through so many of
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: the characters, but I hadn't addressed Paul Bettany. Man, I
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: love Paul Bettany. Again, if you can deliver me a
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: good villain, and a villain that just kind of... I
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: don't even need them to be super-powered, as I've said
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: in all the other ones. This one, he doesn't even
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: have to have weird gimmicks. He's just a dude with
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: some interesting-looking scars. He's just... Jackass. Like, he's just an
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: evil bastard.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: He's just an organized crime.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: Because, yeah, because he's greedy and opportunistic. Like, again, all
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: of our characters are kind of crossing over into that.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: And yet, still charming. Still charming enough, but always.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: He needs some clear eyes. I gotta say that. He
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: needs to get some eye drops. His eyes are super red.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: Well, again, when you already kind of look like that,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: I guess... When you're full of force evil, it's gonna...
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it was one of those, again, it's one
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: of those he very, it so perfectly was like organized
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: crime boss. Because it was one of those, he is
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: sort of charming, but at the same time, it's almost
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: always with a threat.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: Like there's almost always this like, never really safe with
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: this guy. Even when he's telling me, hey, here's how
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: much I like you. It's almost like you feel like
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: it's going to be followed by, it'd be a shame
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: if something happened to you.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: It's always poised on a threat. It's like when they
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: show up at his party and they're like, look, we
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: screwed up with the heist. He's like, oh, okay, no problem.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: And then Woody Harrelson's like, but we're going to make
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: it better. That's when he gets angry. Not when he's like, oh,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't get it. He's like, but I'm going to
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: figure out a way to fix this. That's when the
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: guy flips out and threatens to kill him.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: It's almost like he's like fine if you understand the
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 6: consequences of your actions.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not mad.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 6: It's not personal. But like if you're going to say,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: you know, make a promise and then say, oh, we're
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: going to get it.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't tell me you're going to do something that
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: we both know you probably can't make good on because
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: then I'm going to have to kill you. Like again,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: that's the crime boss. Like then I have to kill
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: you because you're lying to me. It's like if you
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: just screw up the mission I sent you on, that's
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: one thing but when you start lying to me that's
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: when i have to take you out and like that's
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: again it's like he's he's just so like perfectly balanced
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: and to be somebody who can be such a likable
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: character and other stuff just seeing a couple weeks ago
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: and like he's my favorite character in these new movies
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: and like to now have him be like just a
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: really evil bastard but i liked him in this.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: I i don't know that he needed more screen time but.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: I It was a perfect balance.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good balance. But I liked seeing
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: him on screen. And I was intrigued by the sort
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: of but not really lightsaber type weapons that he had.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: This is what I think is, again, we seem to
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 4: like so much of this. And looking at it and
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: even sitting in the theater as the credits came up.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, Lawrence Kasdan. And I'm like, this is when,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like, I know it because I know
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: who wrote Empire.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, the fact that he's that far, and
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: I think he's done now. I think this is where,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: unless he changes his mind, I think this is the
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: one he's going out on. But like the fact that
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: he's involved in what most people consider to be like
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: the best of the run. And like he was there
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: like co-writing that. So like the fact that he's come
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: back to do, because he came in to do Jedi,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: but Jedi had its own problems. So like, but like
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: the fact that he does Empire. He came back to
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: do episode seven. So it's like he's been pretty reliable
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: as far as being a good storyteller and knowing the
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: Star Wars universe. So I think the way that it
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: works and comes together so well, I think has a
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: lot to do with him. I think the most promising
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: thing is he also co-wrote it with his son. So
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: maybe he's kind of like he's he's hints and he's
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: handing it to the next here. I might not be
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: around forever. So let's keep this in the family like
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: you take over. you start writing the next one. So
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: I am hoping that's what he's doing is just kind
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: of gearing the kid up to take over. And if
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: he's writing with him now, maybe he's also a pretty
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: good writer. So I think that's so much of why
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: this has as much fun as it does and feels
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: as at home in the Star Wars universe that we
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: kind of like and doesn't spend so much time going
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: down the wrong avenues that we don't want it to.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Well, how many, I was just thinking this when you
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: mentioned that, you know, Jedi, how many movies not counting
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: the ewok movies how many is this now is this
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: 10 i think it's three and three right two two
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: and two yeah.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah so there you go that's the official yeah for
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: not going down the holiday special in the ewok movies
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: and Rebels and all the other crazy.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: As a kid, I enjoyed that first Ewok movie, but
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: it's so far removed from the rest of the story.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: I haven't watched either since the first time, I think. Like,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think I even went back and watched them
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: as a kid like I did so much with the
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: other movies.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: So, like, I do wonder what a nightmare they probably are.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 4: Because I've now listened to, like, other people that would, like,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: go back and talk about it, and they kind of
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: reference it like the holiday special level of what is
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: going on.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: I don't... I don't remember the first one being that bad.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: I remember even as a kid, I thought it was boring,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: but I thought, I thought it was kind of an
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: interesting idea, but I was like, I would rather see
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Han and Luke and, you know, not Ewoks.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're in trouble for a second, but it's fine.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: We're fine. So this was my final takeaway. And it
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: was cause I, even during the movie, like I do
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: remember like, During the action, and I'm having fun pretty
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: much the whole time, but there's almost like this weird
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: melancholy that's following me through this whole movie. And by
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: the end, I get there and I'm like, it's almost
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: like a full-on sadness that seeps in. And as much
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: as I like the movie and I like the ending,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: I think it's all like, or for me, I think
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: it's all coming from the outside of But it is
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: based in the story and the character. And I think
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: it's because and some of it may be the writing
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: and that this actor playing Han Solo is so hopeful.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: Like he really like I think that's yeah sort of
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: what makes it so much fun is he's so like
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: kind of happy even for the rough life he's had
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: and the last three years have been hell and like
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: he's separated from the the woman that he loved and
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: now they're pretty much not going to be together so
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: like you've got all these other things kind of going
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: against him, but he's still like pretty upbeat. Like he's
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: still just like kind of happy and, and has a
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: pretty good outlook on things. And even though he's already
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: telling that I'm an outlaw by the end, we see
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 4: he still at heart is always going to want to
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: do the right thing and always want to help the
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: people that he thinks deserves to be helped. And he's
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: going to fall on the good side. And I think
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: by the end, that's what started to weigh on me
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: was like, number one, I know where you're going to
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: be in 10 years.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: And you're gonna have this beat out of you like
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: and again it starts to be more of a real
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: world thing of like no this is what time does
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: to you it takes you and you're this like you
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: know opportunities lay ahead of you and you're this upbeat
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: kid and you know you want to do all these
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: things and like we check in with him just 10
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: years later and he is the most just jaded motherfucker.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: And like, it's awesome. Like I love him in four,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: but I'm just like looking at what I know is
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: going to happen to him. And it's just, as a character,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: it's like, he's going to become so just suspicious of everything.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: He has a.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: Really rough life.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: Up ahead of him. And then like, just with the life,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: just with the outlaw lifestyle.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: And then the fact that what got me is at
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: the end of the movie, I did feel that weight
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: because I was like, okay, he's really in love with
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: this woman and he's going to pursue her. But we
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: know that there's another woman that's going to come along
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: and take his interest. So something has to happen with
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: So that he can be in a position.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 6: I didn't even think about that.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: Well, even in the beginning, I thought that when they
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: were trying to get away together and I was like,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: and that may be the problem of like the prequel
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: end of it is like, well, I know like I,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: they're this happy couple. And like, I do like both
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: of these characters. I'm like, I know this can't end well.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: I know it. Like I know where you end up later.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: I know you do find the love of your life.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: And as much as you care about this woman right now,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: this isn't her. And this is not going to be
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: the woman you spend the rest of your years with. And,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: have a child with and have a horrible breakup with.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: And like, so it's like all of the other stuff
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: that I know is coming doesn't even happen with this woman.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 4: And she is your world right now. So like all
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: of that just starts to weigh. And so by knowing,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: first of all, just how like it's just going to
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: beat all the hope out of him. And then Luke
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: kind of like ignites that fire again and he brings
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: him back around and like he still has a good life.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: But I think it became even bigger by the end
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: of it. And maybe this reflects back to I also
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: just sat down and on a previous episode talked about
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: Creed and talked about the Rocky character. And then I
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: think that there's like echoes of that coming back in
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: of watching this. So maybe it is all these characters
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: that we spend just decades of our lives with. Then
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: I'm watching this Han Solo and I'm like, you're never
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: going to win. Like as hopeful as you are now,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 4: as good as intentions as you have, as much as
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: you always try to back the right team eventually, like
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: in the end, time beats everybody so like in the
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: end all of your good intention hopefully have done something
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: for the world you leave behind but you're gonna have
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: a bad marriage you're gonna die like everything by the
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: end just got so like overwhelming that i'm just like
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: i feel so bad for this kid right now like
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: i think that's it i think because his performance is
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: so upbeat and like hopeful that it was like overwhelming
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: by the end to know that like life is just
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: going to beat that out of you until the end
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: when time wins.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: And you die.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: And you die in a horrible way. I also know
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: how you die. It's so like the whole overall. That
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: was kind of how I sat. I sat there watching
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: the credits like a geek. And I'm just like the
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: whole time, it was just this thing washing over me
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: of like, not even like Star Wars geekery of just
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: like life in general. I was like, no, that's how
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: all of the, that's how this goes for all of us.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: Like as much as we want to do good in
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 4: the end, time wins. And hopefully you did something good
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: with yourself because you're still going to die.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: Like you're still just so dark.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: That's what I took from this.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, this was such a fun movie. And
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: that's what I was left with. I'm like, Maybe. And
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: that's why I was like, maybe it's just me. Maybe
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: it's just because I've logged in this much time with it.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: And I'm, and like, but you're also watching.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't think I went as deep as you did
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: But I'm also sitting there watching the credits and at
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: least two people are like in loving memory of come up.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, so we've watched this Han Solo character
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: die in the last few years. We've watched one of
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: our main trio of people making the movie die. And
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: I'm like, so there really is sort of a finality
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: that's setting in on these movies that like, all these
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: people that have worked over the years, like we're starting
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: to lose a lot of them that were working on
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: the initial trilogy. So like, it really is sort of a, and.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. That was 40 years ago.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: But it's still, and they were all like, even the
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: younger kids are just starting to get to the point
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: of like, yeah, you know? So, I mean, I think
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: that started to factor into is like, there is a
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: finality to all of this that we put in. So
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: I guess that, that, that, that if I have hope,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: it's again, that like, Episode 7 sort of reignited it
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: with a new generation and maybe everything that we put in,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: much like Han Solo, everything that we put in, maybe
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: we create the rebellion. Maybe we, you know, we bring
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: a kid into the world that maybe doesn't turn evil. So, like,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: you hope that what you did creates some ripple effect
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: that makes the world a better place. And so maybe
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: that's the episode 7 is like, okay, it's back now.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: Star Wars is a thing. There's little kids loving it again. So, like,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: maybe there is this, like, reigniting that fire for new
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: generations that when the rest of us kick off there
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: will still be something good that comes out of it
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: that's what i'm like i'm i eventually was trying to
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: like let's find something good from this.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 6: Life is circular as fuck it's fine i.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: Don't mean i'll be Life is circular, but when you
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: kick off, you just get dumped in a ravine with
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: a lightsaber hole in your chest. That's very true. It's
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: how I'm going to go out. We're both going to
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: get snoped in half.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: Whatever happens, as long as the authorities can look at
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: my body and say, is that a lightsaber hole?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: See, now my only hope is that I get spider
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 4: legs and I do get to come back. Guys, if
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: somebody out there is working on like a cyborg body
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: with like spider legs. Sure, really. Just keep me alive.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with being a mostly machine weird creature. I'm
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 4: most of that way now.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 6: You need to put that on like your driver's license,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 6: like a sticker.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like none of this organ donor nonsense. I'm like
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: cyborg body. Get me a cyborg body right now. I'm
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: hoping it doesn't have that weird breathy thing. And I'm
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: leaning more towards spider legs. But I definitely would like
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: a cyborg body is what I'm saying.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 6: So.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: It's on the record now. You guys make it happen.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: Why couldn't Darth Vader use the Force to make his
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: lungs work?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's best to not think these things.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: Well, this is another thing I say about Star Wars.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: You pick it up.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 6: There'll be another side story, side movie about the Doctor.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: Well, you guys saw that meme that I forwarded on.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not claiming it, but it is funny just because
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: it is the couple in bed, which I've seen for
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: other things since then. But it's like the life looking
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: at him going like, What the hell is he thinking about?
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: He's probably not even thinking about me. Is he thinking, yeah,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 4: it's her like caught up in relationship stuff and he's
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 4: sitting there looking off into the distance going, why did
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: Luke's metal hand disappear when the rest of him went
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: away and became a forest ghost? I'm like, yeah, sometimes
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 4: it's best to not think too deeply into the Star
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: Wars universe because there's just a lot of crazy loopholes
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: and I don't know how to fix them and just
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 4: hope I get spider legs, I guess, is the takeaway
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: from all. So, there you go. Anything else to add
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 4: to my cheery wrap-up of Solo?
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you haven't seen Solo, please go see it.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't have.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: Listened to this.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: Don't listen to this either.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: I told you at the beginning, that's your own fault now. So,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 4: that's the thing. I guess so now we don't get
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: one in December?
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: Is it really, like, a year and a half? I
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: kind of hope so. I mean, yeah, I guess. I
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 4: don't know. Like, I kind of liked having them. Well,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: careful what you wish for, Brian.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: You were like, don't give me one, and now it's
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 6: going to be like.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: Well, don't give me two in a row, but you're
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 4: supposed to space it out. So, like, now we don't
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: get a Christmassy one. So now are we going all
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: the way till, like, the final trilogy chapter before we
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 4: get another one? I really haven't. I haven't Googled it, so.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious to see, can the LucasArts and
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 4: or Disney sit on things for that long? Which maybe,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: if this doesn't do better, they may officially do that.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: They may not want to pump more money into this
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: until the next episode.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe they'll just wait until May, or who knows? I'm
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: tired of guessing.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I do wonder what their plan is, seeing
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: how this one is not taking off. Again, it might
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 4: have legs. It might stick around a little while, but.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 6: Boba Fett joins the insane pile of upcoming Star Wars
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 6: film projects.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say he enjoys the
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: insane clown posse.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 6: No, it says Boba Fett movie coming from James Mangold.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think I'd heard that. I didn't know when
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: it was coming out in the timeline. But again, bringing
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: in a pretty awesome director.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: So is that our next one?
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 6: I'm looking right now.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: They did say this was the first movie directed by
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 4: an Oscar winner. The first Star Wars movie.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 6: Star Wars 9 is going to be December 2019.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: And then when's the Boba Fett? Following that?
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: Are we still getting an Obi-Wan movie?
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 6: It says untitled third Star Wars anthology movie will be 2020.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it sounds. Again, I'm sure they could change
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: that because they changed this one really quick. So that
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 4: could change. But if this one doesn't do so great
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: in the box office, they may not hurry up and
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: put another one out.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's the best move at this point is let
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 4: it ride till Christmas after.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: I think if I have to wait until Christmas next
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: year to get another one, whether it's part of the
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: saga or one of the spinoff movies, I think I'll
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: be pretty excited going into it, which I haven't felt
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: in a couple of years.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what, yeah, we were just talking about on
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: that last Patreon episode was just like, and now they
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 4: have to figure out what their finishing move is on
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: that trilogy too.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 4: Because so many people had issues with The Last Jedi that, like,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 4: now we're going back to JJ, so it'll be interesting
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 4: to see, do we go back to his initial seven move,
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: or we have to combine the two?
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: Obviously, they're going to give us another Death Star. I mean,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: there's no way around that.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 4: At this point. Didn't get one of those this time either,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 4: so thank God.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: But we didn't get one in Empire either, so.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, but almost all the other ones did.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: It's like every other movie, oh, Death Star.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 4: Even, yeah. Even like God damn. Even Seven had a
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: Death Star-ish.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: Even Three had the.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 4: Its own Death Star.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: They all.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: Well, it had the plans for the Death Star. I
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 6: Regarding Boba Fett, it says that there's no set release
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 6: date and there's not a lot of details that have
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 6: been released. It was once under consideration for release this year,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 6: but it fell apart under director Josh Trank. um so
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 6: now it's james.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 4: See i thought he was initially supposed to do solo
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: and got thrown out just but well actually he backed
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 4: out because creative differences which actually he took so much
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: heat off of that fantastic four movie that he was
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 4: just like no no no i'm not doing anything like
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 4: now especially not something huge like that and then they
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: gave it to the lego dudes and then they had
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 4: creative differences and and ron came in and kind of
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 4: saved the day so.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah um It says it's stuck in the pit
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 6: of development hell.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 4: I really thought you were going to say regarding Henry
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: starring Boba Fett. And that, I'm like, now that! Like,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 4: what if, okay, so Boba Fett goes into the Sarlacc pit. Now,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: we've heard many times he doesn't actually get eaten right
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: away because it takes so long. Crawls back out, but
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 4: he's lost his memory, much like Henry. So then he
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: has to, like, paint pictures of, like, I don't know,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 4: Banthas or something to, like, get like that uh yeah
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: yeah i it does that whole like twist there where
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 4: he's a better person in this new version of his
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 4: brain can we green light this i think i want
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 4: this lucas arts if you're listening get a hold of
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 4: me i'll start writing it.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: As soon as you and we will do this for
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: a lot cheaper yeah well lawrence is like this is
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: retiring we'll take half of his money how about that
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: like we're talking an embarrassingly amount.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: We are pretty cheap i mean Alright, so we've already
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: written a more entertaining movie than probably what's in the works,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 4: so let's get that together. And we can get a
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  Speaker 4: cameo by Harrison Ford. I'm sure he'd love to have
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  Speaker 4: something else to do in the Star Wars show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he loves.
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  Speaker 4: It so much. I think that rounds out this year's
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  Speaker 4: Star Wars episode. I'm sure it'll be another year and
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  Speaker 4: a half before I talk about Star Wars on this show.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's buying that, right? Because it'll be next week probably, but.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be talking to somebody about Star Wars within the
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  Speaker 2: next hour.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Like I said, that was a
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  Speaker 4: good portion of my day yesterday was having a preemptive... Actually, again,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 4: they hadn't seen it, so it was everything but Solo yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: So my daily goings-on is just knee-deep in Star Wars.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm trying to get it to a nice
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  Speaker 4: balance level.
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  Speaker 2: My wife and I were at a party earlier today,
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  Speaker 2: and thankfully no one else there had seen it because
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: we would have been talking about it, And there would
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  Speaker 2: be people in the corner covering their ears and shouting.
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  Speaker 6: Spoilers!
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  Speaker 4: And then Han Solo dies.
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  Speaker 2: And I'd be like, there's so much nudity.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there is a shower scene. And a Wookiee shower scene.
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  Speaker 4: So that's really what we've all been looking for all
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  Speaker 4: these years.
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  Speaker 2: Just the blatant racism.
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  Speaker 4: I mean... There kind of is in the Star Wars
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  Speaker 4: universe anyway, but.
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  Speaker 4: Classism and racism and robotism.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a whole lot of.
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  Speaker 4: But again, we're checking in at a pretty bad part
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  Speaker 4: of the universe and timeline of the universe. Hope for
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 4: the future. That's what we're looking for.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they wanted so badly to put a
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: crawl at the opening of this movie.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't with Rogue One. They're supposed to not do
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 4: it with anything not officially numbered part of the deal.
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  Speaker 2: But you kept getting the intertitle cards.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were just like... What if we hold them still?
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't count, right? It's not a crawl.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 4: It doesn't count if it's not going anywhere. It's just
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  Speaker 4: title cards. It's just like a silent movie, guys. It's okay.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 4: All right. I'd say that about does it. Otherwise, we
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  Speaker 4: shall return next week. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 8: Captain of the millennium falcon galactically unmatched with talent my
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 8: track records have been getting around i even had a
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 8: plaque up at jabba's palace a scoundrel you don't want
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 8: to throw down i'll navigate an asteroid feel for the
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 8: challenge even if i got a really bad feeling about
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 8: it she don't look like much she got it where
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 8: it counts kid it'll cost if you want to ride
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 8: half now and the rest on the other side 0.5
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 8: past like We'll be right back.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 3: Bye. Bye. Bye.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: Bye. Bye.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 4: I don't need the force, just simple tricks and nonsense.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 4: So you can forget whatever rubbish only one says.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 12: Got an asteroid field to get through.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 4: Never tell me the odds. And the potential.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: Princess to rescue.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 5: Never tell me the odds.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: If the job don't pay, no can do.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 5: Ready to step up the class.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: No clue what I'm doing, but I'll pretend to.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: Just never tell me the odds.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 5: Straight out of Cloud City.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 13: Crazy young player named Lando Palpatine's little scheme's getting canceled
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 13: Anakin need to stop it, he's a softie A Jedi
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 13: in denial, an Obi-Wan cannot be We're the aces, run
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 13: the galaxy Try to race, get spun back to Tatooine
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 13: I like my shit fast, like my milk blue Everything
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 13: that you heard about me, true Hey, don't blame the
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 13: Lord of the Sith Loosen up, hey, you're looking a
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 13: little stiff Woo!
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: Woo! Woo!
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 4: Outro Music.
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  Speaker 5: No one cares.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 8: I want the Falcon fair and square Orlando.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 9: It's a bot.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 4: Cause I got a good hand, bro.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 12: Sorry, old buddy.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: Want her back.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 12: I'll let you borrow her, but not a scratch.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 4: Cause this hunk of junk's quick as a ship gets.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 6: So don't destroy your worshipfulness.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: I just flew us right out of a space sub.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 3: Tommy's over.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 6: I was a smuggler, made a lot.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 4: Of money, till a princess made rebel scum of me.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 12: Still pretty fly for a nice guy, though.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 7: Everybody loves you, honey.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: Bye. Bye. Bye.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: It was relatively painless.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 10: Because there wasn't that much pain. The only one got
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 10: dark candy. Until I showed up. But, I mean, that's
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 10: just because time kills us all. I had fun talking
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 10: about it. And then Brian's like, oh, by the way.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 4: You guys, we're all going to die.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: Things are not going to work out.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 4: That's the moral of life.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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