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The Car Alarm Hack, America’s Foreign-Student Business and a Parkinson’s Breakthrough | TMI Ep 431 · The TMI Show with Ted Rall and Manila Chan

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framing right in this new rumble studio haha
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make this go away alright hello hello good morning
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I'm Manila Chan that in the middle there be producer
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Robbie Ted roll was there I'm not sure if he
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fell out the window maybe he's not he's not in
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Russia so it's probably safe you are tuned into
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the Ted Manila information show TMI show for
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short because we bring you too much information.
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But yeah, Ted was there a second ago. I pressed
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some buttons and now he's vanished. He'll be
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back. He said that he probably had to do another
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potty break. He got a potty break. Yeah. Well,
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he went to he went to a doctor yesterday and
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got some old people procedures done because he's
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old. So he's also really vain about his appearances
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on the program. Oh, there he is. Look, he took
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an oatmeal bath. So that's probably what this
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is. I have to go put on my makeup. I got to make
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sure I look beautiful from my crown. You're so
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vain. Yes. Carly Simon, right? There be Ted.
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We thought we speculated that maybe you fell
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out the window. That can happen. Well, by the
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way, Carly Simon just died, right? No, she had
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her Parkinson's diagnosis. Oh, that's what it
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is. Which is prescient for the show. She's pre
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-death. Pre -death. Oh, no, you can have Parkinson's
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for a very long time. Isn't that what Michael?
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Michael J. Fox. Yeah, like 35 years or so he's
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had it. Well, we're all pre -death. Yeah, poor
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we will jump to The stuff we're supposed to talk
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about today I Heard the jaws that time All right,
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all right, I did not you did not I did so this
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one comes from my days of your 20 25 years ago
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God, I can't believe I'm saying that 25 years
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ago. I lived in this world. Okay, so The car
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alarm you never bought could actually let hackers
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disable your vehicle. Millions of American drivers
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may have a hidden security vulnerability installed
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in their cars, not by the manufacturer, but by
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the dealership. Researchers at the University
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of California San Diego discovered serious flaws
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in the car security system. That's K -A -R -R,
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car security system. An aftermarket alarm estimated
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to have been installed in more than two million
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vehicles. Using a smartphone within Bluetooth
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range, researchers demonstrated that an attacker
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could unlock a car, disable its alarm, flash
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its lights, sound the horn, or prevent the engine
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from starting. So in other words, they can fuck
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with you. The especially troubling part is that
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many owners never purchased or even knew about
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the system. Dealers frequently install car alarms
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to protect vehicles while they're sitting on
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the lot. When the vehicle is sold, the hardware
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often remains wired into the car even when the
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buyer declines to pay for the upgraded alarm
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service. the supposedly deactivated device may
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still transmit and accept Bluetooth commands,
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researchers found that the system relied on a
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single authentication key shared across the affected
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devices. So just one key can... This is actually
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fascinating, I think. It's crazy. Once that key
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was extracted from the car smartphone app, Commands
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could be created that nearby systems would recognize
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as legitimate the company behind car has released
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a firmware update and describes the real -world
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risk as Low because of course they would Ted.
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They're not gonna be like, oh shit. Yeah You
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guys are screwed man But they say the risk is
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low. However, the patch arrived roughly 18 months
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after researchers first reported the vulnerability
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to them. And many affected drivers still have
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no idea that they need this patch. Drivers can
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look for the car, K -A -R -R, or S -W -D -S sticker
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on the window. But I mean, come on, who keeps
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that window sticker? Like, you know what I mean?
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Like, not many people would drive off. Like,
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who peels it off? That thing literally comes
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off within an hour after you buy the car. Yeah,
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like nobody wants to keep that on there. Or if
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you notice a small blinking button. Unless you're
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like the mini pearl. You're the mini pearl of
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drivers. You like to keep the receipt on. Well,
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you know, those. Look how much I spent. I know
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the younger people wear the ball cap. They don't
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they don't curl the bill anymore. They keep them
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flat and then they keep like the sticker on it.
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I've seen some people as happy as leading the
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tag. Oh, I haven't seen that. Ball cap thing,
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or there's the opposite thing where people wear
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the ball cap where it's all worn out in the front
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and it looks like, you know, like, homeless -y.
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Well, they make it like that. And I'm like, why
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do you? Why? They make them like that now, because
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it's like a hipster look. I mean, you're saying
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it's like, it's like distressed, like pre -distressed
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jeans? Yes. Like those? What? Totally just like
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that. Yeah, like a beat -up ball cap. But then
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in other communities, they wear the flat bill
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cap fresh from the store and you keep all the
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labels on them, which is weird. But you know,
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so this is the car version of that. Otherwise,
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you may notice a small blinking little light
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beneath the dashboard. Like it'll be it'll be
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from what I've seen. Oh, I've seen that years
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ago. This is 25 years ago. 25 years ago. I remember
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the system having it looked like the size I've
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seen that on rental cars It so I don't know about
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now, but it says it's a small blinking Light
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like at the lower end of the dashboard Back in
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my day. We I remember seeing something the size
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of a pager and it it's installed on the farthest
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left side of the driver at the very bottom of
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your like where your legs would go and You'd
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see a little pager -sized thing that would blink,
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that's what that service was. So I know about
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this because it existed. I didn't realize that
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now it's all Like Bluetooth because back then
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it was the little look this is this is look.
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It's super fascinating because this is a great
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I mean, so what's the essence of the story, right?
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The essence of the story is you have a legacy
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technology Like we always know cars have stuff
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in them that are like spying on us like for example,
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if you have an accident your car Does essentially
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have the equivalent of a black box in it? And
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it will and, you know, and like if there's a
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dispute, like a lawsuit, you know, it can be
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retrieved to find out really what direction,
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you know, the steering wheel was pointing, how
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fast you were going and so on. And and that data
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is basically like a flight data recorder. It's
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like a trip data recorder. We most Americans
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know that now, right? Although they're not driving
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like that, they're not conscious of that. But
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that information's in your car. But this is something
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That's like a vulnerability, security vulnerability
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that you're not even aware of. Right. Like if
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you get like a like a like a self -driving car,
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we know that those can be hacked. And, you know,
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all of this, all the cars are our computers on
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wheels. This this is supposed to be a security
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alarm. You know, for the dealership that you
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can pay for as an upgrade. as a regular car alarm
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which most people don't even most people who
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are i hate to say it most people don't use car
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alarms because they're not evil um you know i
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mean car alarms are for bad people um i mean
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because like here's the thing the 90s if you
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live in a neighborhood where your car is prone
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to being broken into ain't oh say san francisco
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for example ain't no one on the street going
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to interfere with that person stealing your car.
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I mean, in New York City back in the 90s, I mean,
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you know, I used to see people break into cars,
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the alarm would go off. I'm like, I'm not interfering
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with that guy. It's like if I saw someone, I'm
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the same person, if I saw someone attacking a
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person, I'd interfere, but I'm not going to interfere
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to save someone's car. I'm like, I don't care.
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It's their car. I mean, it's like, sorry. I saw
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a like inaction, car, not a carjacking, but car
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break -in. When we were in San Francisco two
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years ago, at the Golden Gate Bridge, like, you
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know, there's a park that kind of overlooks it,
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so you can get pictures and whatever, and you
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park there. And so we're parked there and there's
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signs everywhere that says, don't leave, you
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know, whatever, your valuables in plain sight,
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blah, blah, blah. This is a heavy car break -in
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zone, right? I'm at a fucking national park.
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That's the entire city of San Francisco. That's
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the whole city. So I'm literally parked, I don't
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know, six, eight cars away from, like, I hear
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smash alarms. It's broad daylight. It's like
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two in the afternoon. They're breaking into tourist
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cars. The tourists that walked away from the
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car and the alarms going, I don't know, probably
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a rental. I don't know. Alarms going off. Nobody
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even flinches. Nobody cares. And I'm looking,
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I'm going, wow, they really do break into cars
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here. Like it's nobody's business. But anyway,
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this is even scarier though, because like this
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means the hackers can take their cell phone,
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download this app, get the patch, whatever, and
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then go around to a whole neighborhood hitting
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the app. And it can theoretically just quietly,
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silently unlock your car unbeknownst to you.
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You're asleep. If your car has this, they can
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just burp, burp, burp, unlock everyone's car
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on the block. I mean, theoretically, that's what
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can happen. And the car people, the K -A -R -R
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people, the car people were like, ah, it's a
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low risk. Nobody's doing this. I know we have
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our system in millions of cars across California
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and other states, too, but mostly in California.
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They're like, it's fine. Don't don't worry about
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it. Hackers aren't doing that. Hello, hacker.
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Like these are computers on wheels. And like
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we've seen so many I think with was it Kia or
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Hyundai like a year ago that hackers were were
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I don't know what they did with with. the Bluetooth,
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but they were able to manipulate the remote start
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on people's cars by copying your key because
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most people, they know they come up to your house,
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they come up to your front door, right? They
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can basically scan your keys because your keys
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are most likely hanging near your front door,
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right? So they scan your keys. They basically
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copy the RFID on your... remote start car, which
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is like a Hyundai or Kia or whatever. And then
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they go to your Hyundai and Kia, hit it on their
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phone and they unlock your car and start it and
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drive away because they've made a digital copy
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of your key. So crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So this is
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not quite as bad. It doesn't, it says you can
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remote stop it, stop your car. It doesn't say
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that you can remote start it. So I'm not sure
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that the article didn't go into these specifics,
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but it did say the scary thing is that it's in
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your car and most people don't know when they
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buy these new cars. I mean, probably nothing
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will happen because, I mean, look, two million
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cars is not really a lot of cars, right? I mean,
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how many cars are in the United States? There's,
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you know, there's got to be like a hundred million
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cars in this country or more. More, I'm sure
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there's more. The point here is like the consumer
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interest is like, most dealerships aren't telling
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you that this thing is in there to begin with.
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Right. They just ask you when you're in finance
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and I was that person like, Hey, Ted, so you
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want to pay $7 .95 for this car alarm system?
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It's already installed in your car. There's no
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no must no fuss. Just drive off. It's in there.
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800 bucks. Everyone just says no. No. So you're
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like, check the box. No. So we don't start. the
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alarm on our end, but it's still in your car.
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Nobody mentions to the buyer that that this extra
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vulnerability is there. So, you know, this is
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why I keep saying over and over, oh, my God,
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like I just I miss my old Volkswagen. That's
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like this little clunker, you know, like like
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all it had was power windows, air conditioning.
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And I think that was it. I think that's all it
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had. But it was a dumb car. And it was zippy,
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and it was great on gas. And that was it. That's
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it. Nobody was going to remote. I had no worry
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about somebody remote stealing it. Nope. Nobody
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trying to break into a clunky old Volkswagen.
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I loved it. Favorite car. All right. Manila,
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let's go. Next topic. No. You guys look at your
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under, not under the hood. Just look at your
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car and make sure you guys are. not one of these
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people that are going to get scammed by hackers,
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hacker thieves. Okay, scientists have developed
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an experimental drug combination that deliberately
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reduces oxygen delivery to the brain and counterintuitively
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as a result appears to slow or even possibly
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reverse symptoms of several neurodegenerative
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diseases. in mice. Researchers tested the treatment
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in mouse models of Parkinson's disease, Friedrich's
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ataxia, and Leigh syndrome. Parkinson's mice
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showed improved balance and coordination while
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the treatment halted further declines in strength
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and movement along - Leigh syndrome, I think.
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Oh, okay. I thought it was like Vivian Leigh.
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I thought she was Vivian Lee. I thought she was
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like, like Raleigh, like, like Raleigh, North
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Carolina, the L E I G H Lee. That's true. That's
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how Raleigh is sort of spelled. Okay. RAL. Right,
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right. I mean, I don't care. Whatever. So in
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the Lee or Lay, as the case may be, syndrome
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model, median survival increased dramatically
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from about 62 to 158 days, even when treatment
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began after advanced symptoms began to appear.
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The so -called hypoxia in a pill, I guess they
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could use this for the death penalty in the South,
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is actually a two -drug combination. GBT -601
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makes hemoglobin hold oxygen more tightly, reducing
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how much reaches body tissues. 2399 blocks HIF2
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alpha, obviously the old HIF2 alpha, a protein
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that would otherwise respond by producing excessive
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red blood cells, which is a potentially dangerous
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complication. The reason that less oxygen might
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help the brain is that damaged mitochondria,
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the cellular machinery that converts oxygen into
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energy, may stop using oxygen efficiently. That
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can leave exigent oxygen floating around brain
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tissue where it triggers oxidation. Basically,
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literally your brain is rusting and further cellular
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damage. Earlier research found that Parkinson's
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mice breathing air contained just 11 % oxygen,
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experienced less neuron loss and improved movement.
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However, there's a big catch. The new study is
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a pre -print, has not yet been peer reviewed
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and involved only mousees. also adjust their
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metabolism under low oxygen conditions more readily
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than humans do. And deliberately inducing hypoxia
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is, of course, dangerous. So don't move to a
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mountain to the mountains or start holding your
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breath. Still, research matters because it challenges
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one of medicine's safest assumptions that more
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oxygen is better. Sometimes oxygen might not
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be better or lack of it might help. Isn't that
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wild? Like it is wild. I mean, these days they're
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doing so much research, you know, it's because
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the boomers all be getting old. There's so much
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research now on dementia. That's yeah, that's
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true. And like, basically a lot of research on
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old people diseases. And like to the to the topic
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of like more oxygen in your bloodstream is supposed
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to be better. I mean, remember, we talked about
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like breathing through your butthole. Remember
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that story we covered? Ass breathing. Right.
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Ass breathing. I mean, they're literally studying
21:03
that. If you guys missed this, this is an episode
21:05
from like last year. There is a whole... That's
21:09
a TMI classic, actually. It is a TMI classic
21:13
that nobody guaranteed, nobody on the interwebs
21:18
at all, podcast, TV show, whatever. No one talked
21:22
about that. I promise you, TMI is the only one
21:24
that covered it. And look, it could save your
21:27
life. If you, I mean, if Mary Jo Kopecki could
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breathe through her ass, she'd be alive today.
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Oh, well, is that the one that Kennedy? Well,
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she was under water. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, yeah,
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if she could breathe through her butthole, maybe.
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But but this is a real thing. You guys think
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I'm being sarcastic and snarky. You're right.
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But it is it is a real story that we covered
21:51
and it's really a scientific. thing that you
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guys can look up for yourselves. But this makes
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me think of, I don't know if you had them in
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New York City, Ted, but in the mid 2000s across
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Southern California, there were these oxygen
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bars that were popping up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did
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you guys have them? We have them in LA and in
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Orange County. Yes. My weird ex -wife took me
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to one once. I had to try it. And I was like,
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of all the stupid ideas you've ever had, which
22:29
are numerous, this is one of the dumbest. Talk
22:32
about fucking a grifter business, right? So,
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but it's basically like you sit at a bar and
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underneath like on the bartender side would be
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like a oxygen canister. The air tender, yeah.
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The air tender, the oxygen canister like, you
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know, like old people wheeling around their oxygen
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tanks. So there's it's that on the other side.
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and they give you a brand new, you know, like
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nose thing that you would get like if you were
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in the hospital, right? Like for the oxygen,
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they plug you up and they're like, oh, what scent
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would you like today? Would you like like lemon
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or mango or green tea infused tea treat oil?
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Like whatever, right? And they charge you per,
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I don't remember how many, like the, how much
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oxygen usage. It was a lot. It was definitely
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gonna be like 40, 50, 60 bucks. Yes. To sit there
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for like for 30 minutes, you know for oxygen
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for oxygen and then but they're The oxygen wasn't
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even like very like potent So when I was in in
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physics class, you know, we took we had to take
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a lot of science class It's been a lot of time
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in the chemistry lab too and you know, I was
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a physics major and so we had, you know, there
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was an oxygen pump for, you know, for the lab.
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And, and the Lord, the word quickly got out that
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there is no quicker cure for a hangover. So you
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come in and you just huff some O2 and you're
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like, right as rain. Like, yeah, like you're
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just like, poof, what would normally take hours
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happens in like minutes. My my brother only athletes
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use this on the on the sidelines Ambulance driver
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and they would do it they would huff oxygen or
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they would your rock or they would have because
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a little bit more energy lean drip or a saline
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drip just like Well, those are those are the
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thing right now. It's similar to the oxygen bar
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of the 2000s They're popping up all over the
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Washington, D .C. metro, and it came from L .A.
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People are doing these hydration bars, the wellness
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hydration bar, and you get a fucking saline drip.
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Like, that's all it is. And then you can kind
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of sit there and like, I don't know, get your
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foot massaged or whatever as you're getting a
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saline drip or something. That's the new oxygen
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bar here. But it's strange to me if you... Compete
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if you juxtapose the two so for young people
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or you know, not not someone suffering from Parkinson's
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Mostly that's true more oxygen is better. It
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oxygenates your your Your muscles your brain
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capacity is better. You feel more energized Elite
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athletes huff oxygen, you know, like it's not
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illegal Like the IOC doesn't say you can't use
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this at the Olympics people are like, you know,
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like huffing in pure oxygen Pure O2 but then
25:41
with the old folks and I say primarily it's old
25:44
folks right unless you're Michael J Fox primarily
25:47
it's old folks that have Parkinson's and Like
25:52
how do you but how I feel like if you're taking
25:56
a pill that can shrink oxygen levels in your
26:02
brain That is a fine line that if you're overprescribed
26:08
or whatever, or taking this wrong, who's to say
26:12
you're not like, like really opening the door
26:15
toward brain death, like you're about to kill
26:19
yourself? How well you're supposed to do this
26:23
yourself. The article itself said not to do this
26:27
yourself. Well, it's only in mice, right? And
26:31
JDC says that's an important distinction, that
26:33
this is only in mice. So it's not like it's headed
26:36
towards clinical trial or anything yet, but it's
26:39
interesting, because oxygen, as you know, is
26:42
oxidative. It's very, very early, and it's interesting,
26:46
but that's about it. Like oxygen is oxidative.
26:49
This is not. Unlike ass breathing, which everyone
26:52
should be doing every day, this is not news you
26:54
can use. No, how do you process ass breathing,
26:58
though? You have to focus. Be at one with your
27:04
tuchist. Think about your sphincter. I mean,
27:07
we learned about it, to talk about it on the
27:10
show last year. About the rectum. I can't, I
27:14
still, I could not figure out how they. The mind
27:19
rectum linked. I couldn't do it. And comments
27:22
here, JDC, our resident scientist says, Boomers
27:26
are desperately trying to save themselves. Meanwhile,
27:29
most millennials and younger are just waiting
27:31
for them to go ha ha. Yeah, well, it's a it's
27:36
a it's a fucking it's a race of it's a race of
27:40
death chicken. All right, we should keep going.
27:45
We're actually proceeding at a reasonable pace
27:47
today. As an experiment, I want to see if we
27:49
can actually do this, instead of having to race
27:52
through the last two stories in the last few
27:55
minutes. I can sabotage this if you want. No.
27:59
Well -dressed nerd says, can you guys have on
28:03
Michael Yan? I don't know Michael Yan. Who's
28:06
that? Who's a Michael Yan? He's got the fire
28:08
tin foil hat conspiracy insight on the war, but
28:12
it makes way more sense than one would think
28:15
or be told to think. I have to look up Michael
28:18
Yon. Y -O -N? Yeah, well, look him up. Let's
28:21
look him up later. I don't know him, but we're
28:25
open to suggestions, of course. So, yeah, I'll
28:28
look into him. If anyone has contact digits for
28:31
him, let us know. Oh, I heard that. That was
28:34
awesome. Yeah, if you guys do have contacts to
28:37
or connections to whoever that would make for
28:39
an interesting guest and you'd like to see them
28:41
on here, shoot them over to us. Let us know.
28:44
All right. So the Trump administration has just
28:49
imposed new limitations on how long foreign students
28:53
may remain in the US. We've talked about this
28:56
before when Trump was... floating the idea around.
29:01
So F1 students will now be admitted for the length
29:04
of their academic program up to four years max.
29:08
Like they're maxed out at four years and must
29:11
apply then to the federal government if they
29:14
want to stay additional time. Their post -grad
29:18
departure window will shrink from 60 days to
29:22
30 days. So as soon as you get that diploma,
29:25
Trump is like out. The administration says students
29:29
should finish their education and return home.
29:33
Universities responded with warnings about lost
29:35
talent, weakened research, and declining American
29:39
competitiveness. Those concerns are legitimate,
29:43
but notice what colleges quantify most enthusiastically.
29:47
The money! American institutions hosted nearly
29:51
1 .18 million international students during the
29:56
24 -25 academic year. They contributed an estimated
30:00
42 .9 billion to the economy. Mostly the economies
30:05
of those colleges and universities. More than
30:07
355 ,000 jobs. Most international undergrads
30:12
and a majority of grad students finance their
30:15
education primarily through personal or family
30:19
funds, often paying full tuition with little
30:25
institutional aid. So these are obviously kids
30:27
from wealthy families in foreign countries. In
30:31
other words, foreign students are not merely
30:33
scholars, They are premium customers. Nonprofit
30:37
is a tax classification, not necessarily a governing
30:40
philosophy for these universities. The effect
30:43
on American applicants is complicated. At many
30:46
public universities, higher international tuition
30:49
can finance additional seats for domestic students.
30:53
One study estimated that 10 additional foreign
30:56
grad students produced roughly eight additional
31:00
domestic enrollments. But other research found
31:03
crowding out effects in highly selective grad
31:06
programs where the number of seats is genuinely
31:09
limited. Then there is the global brain drain.
31:13
About 68 % of foreign science and engineering
31:18
doctorate recipients were still living in the
31:21
U .S. Roughly a decade after they graduated.
31:24
They never go home. Their home countries often
31:29
funded years of earlier education only to watch
31:32
the United States keep the finished product.
31:34
Colleges call this international exchange. Increasingly,
31:38
it looks like a business model with diplomatic
31:41
consequences. So do you, Ted, actually, Ted Raul,
31:46
a devout communist leftist, you agree with President
31:50
Trump on this? Um, yeah, with one little nit,
31:54
one little niggle. It's very, it's a very, it's
31:57
very minor. Um, you know, I think basically,
31:59
um, give the, give them, leave the existing 60
32:04
days for them to go home. You know, when you
32:06
graduate, you know, it takes more than 30 days
32:09
to pack up all your shit and give notice to your
32:12
landlord and everything that you're leaving.
32:14
If you have a car you need to sell, I'd give
32:17
people, I mean, 60, 30 days is just not. I mean,
32:20
it's not a long time. 60 days, 30 more days ain't
32:24
going to make any more difference. What we're
32:26
trying to abolish here is those 10 and 20 years.
32:30
Look, I think this is great. I mean, look, colleges
32:34
and universities would definitely, if this goes
32:37
through, they're going to suffer the pinch because
32:40
it's really true. By the way, it's not just colleges
32:43
and universities. It's also like fancy prep schools.
32:47
And fancy private schools on the K through 12
32:50
level have tons of foreigners who, again, pay
32:53
top dollar, no scholarship. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
32:57
My son went to a private school for the first
33:00
few years when you guys were in the Hamptons,
33:03
probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he and he was
33:05
yeah, he went to a fancy school out there and
33:08
he was like partial scholarship because his father
33:11
was a loser cartoonist. And but there were rich
33:15
kids there who were paying full freight. They're
33:21
like foreign rich kids, foreign rich kids from
33:23
like, yeah, they even had a house for them. A
33:26
lot of them were from China. And they had a special
33:29
so they were not only making the school was making
33:32
bank because they were charging them for to live
33:35
there too. And yeah, their parents weren't there.
33:38
You're like, wait, what like little kids and
33:41
their parents. Yeah, I mean, obviously. They
33:45
had they were they were like it was a job. It
33:48
was like certain teachers like lived on premises
33:50
with them. It's like a boarding school It's they
33:53
were like basically they were in like the boarding
33:56
school component of the school. So yeah, and
34:02
Obviously, they're paying a pretty penny to attend.
34:05
So yeah, well, I implications really from K all
34:12
the way through 12 all the way. And it's not
34:14
just undergrad, it's also graduate and doctoral.
34:17
So this is like, you know, this is a lot of people
34:20
who come from all over the world and pay full
34:23
freight to for the, you know, prestige of being
34:28
in an American school. Does anybody still even
34:30
want to come like we're Harvard has fallen to
34:33
number seven on the international scale. I think
34:36
five of the top five of those top seven were
34:39
Chinese universities ranking Yeah, I think a
34:43
lot of Chinese people are going to start being
34:45
like, never mind, you know, America's, America's
34:49
xenophobic policies aside, like, honestly, everything's
34:53
fine here. There's no reason to leave, right?
34:55
Like, I mean, China is a is a rapidly growing,
34:58
expanding economy, lots of economic opportunities
35:01
there that didn't used to be there. So I don't
35:04
think they're going to Chinese will be suffering
35:06
brain drain regardless anymore. But look, There
35:10
is competition for these seats. I'm going to
35:13
echo what I always say about H1B visas. As long
35:17
as the unemployment rate is higher than 0 .0%,
35:22
we should never have issue a single H1B visa.
35:27
And similarly, as long as there is a single American
35:30
son or daughter who is unable to gain access
35:34
to the school of their choice in favor, there
35:37
should be absolutely no foreigners admitted to
35:41
American schools. And, you know, I mean, so certainly,
35:44
if they want to come here right now, you know,
35:47
it's the grift is on for these colleges and universities,
35:51
they can, they can admit them, but they shouldn't
35:54
stay and they do. Look, it's automatic. When
35:56
I was in college, every foreign student I knew,
35:59
especially in engineering school, they all knew,
36:02
oh, I'm going to stay here. I'd be like, oh,
36:05
so you know, you graduate in 1985, you'll be
36:08
gone. Oh, no. No, no. I mean, I'll be recruited.
36:12
I'll get a job at like GE or whatever. And it's
36:15
like, and it's like, fuck that. It's disgusting
36:18
again. So then American kids have to compete
36:22
with these foreigners for American jobs. Fuck
36:25
that. Well, I mean, isn't it when it doesn't
36:27
roll the way around, by the way, it's not like
36:30
other, you know, it's not like Americans can
36:31
go study. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's right. Germany.
36:34
And then like, you know, be recruited by German
36:36
companies and stay like. It's that's all I mean,
36:40
I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's very
36:42
unlikely. Yeah. My my old journalism professor,
36:44
right, who I stay in touch with, who I've become
36:46
good friends with, obviously all these years
36:48
later, his own daughter, who I knew her as like
36:52
a little, you know, a little little girl. She
36:55
did a graduate program. Little girl. I mean,
36:58
she's a grown woman now, but she went to grad
37:01
school. For a few years in China Learned Mandarin
37:06
and everything but as soon as her program was
37:08
done It was like out of their kid like they didn't
37:12
let her stay. It's like a poo in the Simpsons
37:14
Thank you for coming and please get out and please
37:16
come again Yes, like you're welcome to come back,
37:19
but you can't stay right now. So they kicked
37:21
her right out I mean and it's great that she
37:24
came back to the US with you know, speaking fluent
37:26
Mandarin and like it awesome But then she did
37:31
another program in Italy and the same thing.
37:34
After two years, they booted her out. Yep. Good.
37:38
Fucking good. Italy and China both booted out
37:43
an American graduate student twice. They don't
37:48
let kids stay. Good. But we're the one country
37:54
that seems to allow that to happen. But what
37:57
about for like undergraduate studies, a lot of
38:01
universities that are supposed to be highly selective,
38:04
if these international students, their parents
38:06
can pay not only the out of state, out of country
38:10
fee, their parents are paying in cash money,
38:14
they're pushing out poor students like you, poor
38:16
students like me. Like if you're competing to
38:20
get into, you know, like J school, like for example,
38:23
me, like Annenberg School of Journalism, you're
38:26
I don't have the money to pay up front. Well,
38:28
there's no scholarships, basically, for journalism
38:31
school, right? Which is one of the reasons why
38:33
journalism school should not be a consideration
38:36
for hiring. I mean, one of the big problems that
38:40
journalistic institutions have in the United
38:42
States is they have a class issue, right? They
38:45
don't have enough people in the New York Times
38:50
newsroom who grew up like us. They grew up like
38:53
the three of us, right? Like so they don't so
38:56
so, of course, they have no fucking connection
38:58
to the way 95 % of Americans live. So it's right.
39:03
The schools are all and I don't mean the other
39:06
J. Don't you guys put words in my mouth? I mean
39:09
journalism school, but it's called J. School.
39:12
But all of these kids are like wealth. I don't
39:15
care what country you're from. I don't care if
39:17
you're American. The one thing I saw in common
39:20
with all of them was In today's day and age anyway,
39:23
is that they they're all like like nepo rich
39:27
babies Yep, they're like none of them None of
39:32
them come from working -class families. They're
39:34
all rich kids and the international kids They
39:38
their parents are paying up front cash money
39:40
So I'm sure Ted that influences whether or not
39:44
a rich American kid gets in or the rich right
39:47
now Not rich, but I can absolutely middle class
39:50
Having worked in admissions, I assure you that
39:54
it comes into play. I mean, it's funny because
39:57
you don't really talk like in the admissions
39:59
department, you don't really talk about it. You
40:02
don't really say like, oh, like, oh, oh, look,
40:05
this famous person's kid is applying. And and
40:10
but you know, like, it's not just it would be
40:13
cool to have this famous person's daughter attend.
40:17
You also know that they're not going to get financial
40:20
aid. Right, so you know that their parents are
40:23
rich and that they're gonna pay cash money right
40:26
up front and Maybe their parents will donate
40:29
a new library or I mean, it's not like I'm not
40:32
gonna say like it's not gonna put like a D student
40:35
get them into Harvard Okay, but it will if you're
40:40
you know, if it's kind of like someone's like
40:42
sort of like you could go either way Yeah, it'll
40:44
make the difference Like you're decently smart.
40:46
Sure. Like if you check all those boxes, the
40:49
thing that can push you over the edge is that
40:52
student A might need financial aid and student
40:56
B has rich parents. Yeah. And maybe your rich
41:03
parents are, I don't know, in Switzerland. And
41:08
you'll get that seat because your rich parents
41:12
are paying right up front. Full bore right up
41:16
front and the university will select that kid.
41:19
So That's exactly how it is. That's how it works.
41:22
That's how it works that I hate I hate I hate
41:27
the university system here because it it is another
41:30
This is one of those things where it shouldn't
41:32
be a capitalist model. It shouldn't like this
41:35
is for the greater good and we we look for ways
41:41
to capitalize on other people's brains that are
41:45
not our own children of this country. Mr. Lee
41:49
says the U .S. bribes the top performing foreign
41:52
students to stay. That's why the U .S. allows
41:55
so many foreign students to drain the brains
41:58
of other countries. And our resident scientist
42:00
says Ivy League has rested on its laurels for
42:04
the most part. Meanwhile, schools like UNC Chapel
42:07
Hill, Vanderbilt, University of Michigan, et
42:10
cetera, are kicking ass wholesale but don't have
42:14
the old money that yeah that's i could see that
42:18
i could see that happening a lot yeah i'm it's
42:21
just brand name recognition and rich people will
42:25
pay for the brand name obviously especially rich
42:27
international students yeah of course that's
42:32
right yeah all right look at us cooking time
42:39
This I know, I know. It's great. Researchers
42:42
studying marmots in Colorado are compensating
42:46
for the loss of federal funds by showing off
42:49
the animals on OnlyFans. Everybody's got an OnlyFans,
42:54
Ted. OnlyFans. I know. I know. Daniel Blumstein,
42:57
professor at the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary
43:00
Biology at UCLA is the head of a Colorado marmot
43:05
research program. I didn't know that the United
43:07
States had marmots actually, that has been running
43:12
since 1962, but is now in danger due to the loss
43:15
of research grants that were canceled last year
43:18
by Trump. Blumstein and his team at Rocky Mountain.
43:22
Biological Laboratory created an OnlyFans page
43:26
called Only Marms, where fans can see photos
43:30
and videos of wild marmots and leave as opposed
43:33
to pet marmots and leave tips to help support
43:37
the ongoing research. It's going to be G rated
43:40
and we're not going to sexualize this. No, no,
43:45
no, you should sexualize it. Like, why not? We're
43:52
only man, no! Let the marmots do fuck each other.
43:56
Um, anyway. Well, yeah. Mating. It's called mating,
43:59
Ted. Come on. Well, no, they're making sweet,
44:01
passionate love. The page - Marmot love? which
44:04
promises unfiltered yellow -bellied marmot content
44:07
from the Rockies, was created and maintained
44:10
by first -year master's student Emily Renke.
44:13
She's been with the program for the last four
44:14
years. Sometimes I'm just posting the videos.
44:16
I think we'll get the most awes, Renke said,
44:20
but my favorite is when I find footage of a particular
44:22
behavior and I can use that to educate people.
44:25
She defended the decision to use unconventional
44:29
means to raise research funds. I don't know if
44:31
I agree with the idea that scientists shouldn't
44:33
have to be opportunistic and creative. I think
44:36
that's a lot of what science and research is,
44:38
she said. It can be intimidating to engage with
44:40
the public like this, but why are we doing this
44:42
work if not to help forward humanity with it?
44:45
The Marmot Program's other fundraisers include
44:47
the early July launch of Marmot Tears IPA. beer
44:52
brewed by Irwin Brewing Company in crested boot
44:56
but whatever abuse I guess it is and an upcoming
44:59
fat marmot week in Event in August inspired by
45:04
cat mile Katmai National Park's fat bear week.
45:07
Yeah, I love fat bear week I look at so there's
45:11
fat marmot week. I have I love looking at fat
45:14
animals. They're adorable The marmot skinny ones
45:18
are being are being discriminated against Well,
45:21
I think I think I would be a chubby chaser here
45:24
with the marmots How sad That well one I was
45:31
with you. I didn't I didn't know America had
45:33
marmots Golden marmots in Central Asia. Oh I
45:41
didn't I just didn't know they were here. I thought
45:42
they were in more exotic places Alexandria black
45:46
on YouTube says marmots are also in the Swiss
45:49
Alps So really yeah, I didn't know any of this
45:53
stuff. Well, I guess it's but why but why Ted
45:56
I mean, so so the Trump administration cut marmot
45:59
research Why do we need to learn about marmots?
46:03
Why like why shouldn't the Trump administration
46:05
cut their? Marmots are not I don't think intrinsically
46:17
that important but I mean, they are cute. By
46:21
the way, they're kind of like meerkats or what
46:24
are those things called? Prairie dogs, right?
46:26
Yeah, I think they look more like a fat prairie
46:29
dog. Those kind of animals. They live in... Eberbod.
46:32
They live in complicated... They dig these complicated
46:35
burrows. They live underground. They pop up and
46:37
they look around and then they pop back down,
46:39
right? It's the same exact kind of thing. Look,
46:45
is marmot research as important as cancer research?
46:48
No. But as long as we are sending $4 billion
46:53
a year to Israel, Marmot research stays. Fair,
46:58
fair, fair. That's what I said. Yeah, I would
47:00
say whatever the Marmot people need. I mean,
47:03
they had to turn to OnlyFans, Ted. You know you're
47:05
desperate if you're turning to OnlyFans. So these
47:09
scientists, I'm always in favor of the scientists,
47:12
usually, unless you're Dr. Fauci who says he
47:15
is the science. For the marmot scientists, I
47:20
mean these are the dr. Reese types, right? Like
47:22
that's yeah, that's who they are They had to
47:25
turn to freakin only fans because they can't
47:28
fund their research like that's really sad like
47:31
I mean, I know they're not Technically, I guess
47:36
exploiting the marmots With anything risque.
47:40
I hope not. I mean, I don't know what you do
47:43
to Make the only fans page risque for marmots
47:47
but but also you know the thing is we don't know
47:50
the thing about scientific research is you're
47:52
researching things because you don't fucking
47:54
know about them so you don't know if it's important
47:57
or not right so it's sort of like you don't know
48:00
what you don't know right i mean who knows it
48:02
might be that like You know, marmot blood carries
48:05
something that could be a cure for some terrible
48:08
human disease, right? Or maybe the adrenochrome
48:11
in marmot blood is better than sacrificing children.
48:15
Marmots play an incredibly, you know, a key role
48:19
in like the ecosystem of the of the West. And
48:22
if something happens to marmots, like everything
48:24
else dies. I mean, we don't know. Right. So it's
48:27
like basically like kind of like, why not? We
48:29
should be studying everything. And again. As
48:32
soon as, as long as we're sending fucking money
48:35
to Israel, everything else, like I would not
48:40
question anything else. Like literally like,
48:42
oh, we're funding, we're funding like really
48:45
stupid art installations. Fine. As long as you're
48:48
still sending money to Israel, you can do that.
48:50
Don't start cutting anything else. That's literally,
48:54
if you are sending $4 billion a year plus to
48:57
Israel, then there's nothing else that should
49:00
be cut. I think we should do more research on
49:03
wolverines and woolly mammoths. Well, wolverines
49:07
still exist. Yeah, I know. Well, Colossal Bioscience
49:11
is bringing them back, remember? Oh, that's true.
49:14
Well, there is lots of research, I imagine, into
49:17
woolly mammoths by the Russians because they
49:19
have so many of them coming out of the permafrost.
49:22
Your territory. Yeah. I like the idea of a Jurassic
49:27
Park. Because that wasn't a failure of cloning.
49:30
That was a failure of zoology. Of zoo keeping.
49:34
Of zoo keeping. Yeah. Yeah. But obviously, but
49:37
you remember from the movie, and I also read
49:39
the book, that the whole theory was that like,
49:44
well, nature finds a way, right? Like, so you
49:46
can't keep them. If they want to get out, they
49:50
will get out. Yeah. So do you, do you describe
49:53
the chaos theory, Ted? I guess I do. Yeah. I
49:59
do. It's law of unintended consequences. Oh,
50:03
well, I guess if we I guess at the risk of quoting
50:11
Donald Rumsfeld, you know, there are the known
50:14
unknowns and the unknown unknowns. I think a
50:18
lot of he was quoting someone else apparently.
50:20
He said that he made the quote famous. Oh, yeah,
50:24
old Donnie. He and Lindsey Graham are probably
50:26
dancing together in hell right now. I would like
50:28
to think so. Yeah, I think so. But I guess because
50:34
what do people actually know about marmots? Right.
50:37
I mean, I don't. No one knows about marmots.
50:40
I don't know anything about them. I've just seen
50:42
their pictures. I was like, oh, they're cute.
50:44
They kind of look like a fat beaver. But without
50:47
the tail, I don't know, like. But a part of me,
50:51
the practical side of me is kind of like, do
50:55
we need to fund Marmot research? I don't know.
51:01
But yeah, if you're gonna allocate money to fighting
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like useless foreign wars like Iran. Come on,
51:09
$1 .5 trillion a year. I know, I know. What's
51:14
a couple million bucks for the fucking marmots?
51:16
Look, let me just refresh everybody's memory
51:18
about this, right? So Brazil, which is has border
51:22
international borders the same size as the United
51:24
States. Okay, so it has to it has similar. It
51:28
has to defend itself. It's a good comp for us,
51:31
right? Like it's similar to us. Like their defense
51:34
challenges are similar. Actually, though, they
51:36
actually have some some neighbors they don't
51:39
get along with and they've had border skirmishes
51:41
with. We don't. We have we get along with our
51:44
neighbors. So actually defending the U .S. is
51:46
a lot easier than defending than Brazil has a
51:49
lot of countries bordering it. Right. And it
51:51
has very rough terrain to board to that it has
51:54
to that for its border. They got all the crazy
51:57
to pardon. They got all the crazy animals there.
52:01
And that's true. Those animals can come any time
52:03
and eat them all. And we don't know all the animals
52:06
in the Amazon. That's true. There's a shit ton
52:07
of like, and they have that giant spider that's
52:09
like the size of a dinner plate and makes a web
52:12
so big that it catches parrots and eats them.
52:16
So yeah, so Brazil's got crazy shit. It's got
52:19
piranhas and stuff. So the point is, they only
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spend $20 billion a year on defense. 20 billion,
52:29
okay 20 billion and we spend You know, I guess
52:32
next year it's gonna be 1 .2 trillion. We're
52:35
going so trillions. Yeah Yeah, so that's more
52:38
than 50 times Why are we spending more than 50
52:42
times with the Brazilian the Brazilians are doing
52:45
the same job with one fiftieth of the money We
52:50
got to get the Brazilians in here and show us
52:51
how it's done. Well, we're all well You can also
52:56
look at China and Russia who combined are still
52:59
spending less for their defense then oh Sure
53:03
us. I didn't even cop that I don't even compare
53:06
with them though because they have bigger borders
53:07
than we do Yeah, well, you're looking at borders.
53:10
I'm just looking at As defense just defending
53:16
your territory, which is only thing that the
53:18
Department of Defense ought to be doing Now it's
53:21
the Department of War now, Ted. Petey Hegsath
53:24
changed it. Well, yeah, but officially it never
53:27
changed, right? So here's a question, Ted. Define
53:30
our territory. Is Europe our territory? No. As
53:33
a protectorate, we protect it. Fuck it. Leave
53:36
them. Bye. You guys are on your own. Come on,
53:40
Europe. Europe has nuclear weapons. OK, and they
53:44
have and they have very powerful militaries.
53:47
They do not need us. You all heard it here. Ted
53:50
Rall has adopted the Robbie doctrine. Oh, always.
53:54
Fuck you all. I just want to point out that when
53:57
we... Forget the European schools. We know they
54:00
have great universities that are discovering
54:03
things at a much faster rate than we are here
54:06
in the U .S. Like Marmot studies. I'm sure whatever
54:09
university in the Swiss Alps, they probably know
54:11
more about the Marmot's than we do. Our Marmot
54:14
department is way behind, Ted, way behind, woefully
54:18
behind. Our parmetology. is not rocking. I'm
54:21
sure the Russians and the Chinese, their Marmot
54:24
departments are all like way advanced and we're
54:26
trying to play catch up because they, the thing
54:29
is with how much money they spend combined for
54:33
their two countries, national security and defense
54:37
is like half of ours and the two of them combined,
54:41
right? I've never heard of Russian or Chinese
54:45
universities or research programs wanting for
54:48
anything. I've never heard. Oh, no, no, no, they
54:51
don't. Yeah, they're not like they're not they're
54:52
not whoring their marmots, you know? Yeah. So
54:56
like, why? Why are those places not? How come
54:59
I don't hear of like, like Chinese or Russian
55:01
scientists being like, please donate to our GoFundMe.
55:05
We want to study this Ebola virus or whatever.
55:08
They have proper countries. They have proper
55:09
countries. That's a that's a national education
55:12
and research is a national priority for countries,
55:16
for real countries. So there's again it boils
55:20
down to allocation of funds Yeah, it's a question
55:23
of your priorities. I'm about to lose my Wi -Fi
55:26
here We're we are out. We are on time. Happy
55:30
Thursday used you doing. Um, are you doing to
55:33
DMZ tomorrow? Oh Back to Friday again cry yay
55:39
Tell Stantus to get his days straight, man. I
55:43
know All right, that's gonna do it for us. No,
55:46
he's got one more thing Yeah, no Putin bike gaming.
55:49
I just have too much production work to do today.
55:52
So we'll get back to it. So we'll raid, we'll
55:54
raid PBG another day. Thank you guys for tuning
55:56
in. Adios amigos. We'll see you on Friday. Bye.
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Bye.