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- 0:26Speaker 2: There is a lot being made right now about what's
- 0:30Speaker 2: happening in blue states versus red states. A red state,
- 0:35Speaker 2: a pure red state would be a state in which
- 0:37Speaker 2: the government is totally controlled by the Republicans. You have
- 0:40Speaker 2: a Republican governor and both houses a legislature a Republican
- 0:44Speaker 2: and a blue state would be the opposite. Wisconsin isn't
- 0:48Speaker 2: a blue state or a red state. We have a
- 0:51Speaker 2: Democratic governor and a Republican legislature now, but we certainly
- 0:57Speaker 2: have the potential to become either a blue or a
- 1:00Speaker 2: red state after the November election. To the extent that
- 1:06Speaker 2: we are blue, however, we are backsliding, and I've got
- 1:14Speaker 2: several examples. That's going to be the theme of the
- 1:16Speaker 2: first segment of today's podcast. For those of you who
- 1:19Speaker 2: don't listen to who aren't from Wisconsin, I want you
- 1:22Speaker 2: to listen to this because these things apply everywhere. The
- 1:25Speaker 2: specific examples are merely going to be from Wisconsin. We're
- 1:29Speaker 2: going to start with one story from one part of
- 1:34Speaker 2: Wisconsin that is blue, and I'm going to use it
- 1:39Speaker 2: as an example of how flawed liberal thinking is and why,
- 1:45Speaker 2: in the end, making decisions based on this thinking always,
- 1:52Speaker 2: not most of the time, always leads to disaster. This
- 1:58Speaker 2: is one of those stories that I talk about all
- 2:00Speaker 2: the time as a perfect story in and of itself.
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- 2:44Speaker 2: A listener brought this story to my attention. That happens
- 2:48Speaker 2: from time to time people find something in the news
- 2:52Speaker 2: and they think it's not getting sufficient coverage, and they
- 2:54Speaker 2: think it'd be right up my alley. A lot of
- 2:56Speaker 2: times they're not right at my alley. This one is
- 2:59Speaker 2: right up my alley. The story comes from a community
- 3:04Speaker 2: called McFarland. McFarland is right outside of Madison. It's in
- 3:09Speaker 2: Dane County. It's one of those communities that you know
- 3:16Speaker 2: has grown because state government grows, the university grows, and
- 3:22Speaker 2: then you have the whole Dane County has going because
- 3:25Speaker 2: of Epic, the giant medical records company which has come
- 3:29Speaker 2: to dominate that industry. So McFarland is one of those communities.
- 3:34Speaker 2: This is where the story comes from. And I'm going
- 3:37Speaker 2: to walk through it a little slowly, but do it
- 3:39Speaker 2: in a way that I think you'll quite it interesting.
- 3:43Speaker 2: The edge of McFarland. I'll remember, McFarland is outside of
- 3:46Speaker 2: Madison in Dane County. Now we're going outside of McFarland,
- 3:51Speaker 2: right past the village limits of McFarland. It's a town,
- 3:56Speaker 2: and there is in that town again right on the
- 3:59Speaker 2: edge of the border. McFarland undeveloped like largely rural property.
- 4:07Speaker 2: It's land that's just sitting there. Dane County has bought
- 4:23Speaker 2: the land. The land is in a community called the
- 4:26Speaker 2: Town of Dunn. It's not in McFarland, but McFarland and
- 4:32Speaker 2: the Town of Dunn have a joint land use agreement
- 4:35Speaker 2: in place where McFarland manages the growth of tracts of
- 4:39Speaker 2: lands like this. So the land isn't in McFarland, but
- 4:45Speaker 2: if somebody wanted to do something with the land, McFarland
- 4:48Speaker 2: would probably annex it so that the economic development and
- 4:51Speaker 2: the services that would occur there would be provided by McFarland.
- 4:55Speaker 2: This sort of thing is going on in every suburban
- 4:58Speaker 2: area in the United States. Where you've got communities that
- 5:01Speaker 2: are outside a suburban area, something may develop over there
- 5:05Speaker 2: and often an annexation will be involved. But whether it
- 5:09Speaker 2: is or it isn't. There's this piece of land that,
- 5:12Speaker 2: as I say, is outside of McFarland and it's in
- 5:14Speaker 2: the town of Dunn. Dane County. Now that's the county,
- 5:19Speaker 2: that's the entire region, that's the city of Madison, and
- 5:22Speaker 2: then all of these smaller communities that are around Madison.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Dane County has decided to buy this tract of land.
- 5:34Speaker 2: They're going to use Dane County property tax money to
- 5:38Speaker 2: buy the land. It's six point four million dollars. It's
- 5:41Speaker 2: not that large of a tract of land. The story
- 5:45Speaker 2: here is reported by the Leader Independent, which is a
- 5:47Speaker 2: newspaper an online newspaper, and I think they have prededictions
- 5:50Speaker 2: that serve many of the communities in Dane County outside
- 5:53Speaker 2: of Madison. The area and I'll describe from the story.
- 6:06Speaker 2: The land in question is separated by US Highway fifty one,
- 6:09Speaker 2: with forty three acres west of the highway and south
- 6:11Speaker 2: of Bible Camp Road and just over one hundred and
- 6:14Speaker 2: twenty one acres east of the highway. There is about
- 6:21Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty feet of shoreline along Lake Wabisa,
- 6:27Speaker 2: so the entire acreage involved is about one hundred and
- 6:31Speaker 2: sixty five acres. Dane County's board has decided to buy
- 6:39Speaker 2: the land for six point four million dollars. McFarland did
- 6:48Speaker 2: not know they were going to do it. Now. Remember
- 6:51Speaker 2: McFarland is a community in Dane County. You could just
- 6:55Speaker 2: use the example for any of the counties that you
- 6:57Speaker 2: live in. The county goes in buys this land that
- 7:00Speaker 2: is adjacent to your community and doesn't tell you about it. Now,
- 7:05Speaker 2: remember McFarland also has a land use agreement with the
- 7:09Speaker 2: Town of Dunn, the community in which the property is located.
- 7:14Speaker 2: So suddenly this land is now under the ownership of
- 7:18Speaker 2: Dan County. The taxpayers of Dane County have paid six
- 7:22Speaker 2: point four million dollars for this one hundred and sixty
- 7:27Speaker 2: five acres. They bought the land from a trust, the
- 7:33Speaker 2: Stuart Harrow and Mary Stuart Harrow family trust. So the
- 7:37Speaker 2: land is a family trust and the heirs apparently are
- 7:43Speaker 2: well ready to sell and they're getting a lot of
- 7:45Speaker 2: money for two hundred and sixty excuse me, one hundred
- 7:47Speaker 2: and sixty five acres. Six point four million dollars is
- 7:50Speaker 2: a lot of money, and in fact, as McFarland is
- 7:52Speaker 2: pointing out, it's way more than land is going for
- 7:57Speaker 2: in that area. So not only to Day County buy
- 8:00Speaker 2: the land, they apparently paid well above market rates for it.
- 8:07Speaker 2: The McFarland community is very, very upset about this because
- 8:10Speaker 2: they weren't even consulted. Here's another government, a government that's
- 8:14Speaker 2: part of their you know, their community is in there
- 8:17Speaker 2: that government going in and buying the land. Now you're
- 8:20Speaker 2: probably wondering, why does Dane County want to buy the land.
- 8:24Speaker 2: One thing I need to explain to those of you
- 8:26Speaker 2: who are not from Wisconsin, Dane County as Madison, this
- 8:31Speaker 2: is one of the most liberal counties in America. And
- 8:35Speaker 2: that's not hyperbole. The voting patterns in Dan County are
- 8:39Speaker 2: as blue as anywhere you can find in this country.
- 8:45Speaker 2: It's also a community that is immune from a lot
- 8:48Speaker 2: of economic pressures because the two big employers are government.
- 8:53Speaker 2: There's the state government and then the University of Wisconsin
- 8:58Speaker 2: main campus in Madison, and that's a huge university in
- 9:02Speaker 2: addition to the regular city governments. And there are also
- 9:05Speaker 2: a lot of healthcare facilities there. And then, to their
- 9:09Speaker 2: great fortune, in the southwestern corner of the community of Verona,
- 9:14Speaker 2: has this giant company, Epic has grown. So the area
- 9:19Speaker 2: is economically booming. It's hard not to boom when you
- 9:22Speaker 2: are both a state capital and a university town. And
- 9:25Speaker 2: then they got the cherry on it with Epic growing
- 9:28Speaker 2: and turning into this monstrously huge company. In the meantime,
- 9:34Speaker 2: now you've got Dane County buying this tract of land
- 9:37Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five acres just outside of McFarland.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Why would a county by land. This is actually, I'm
- 9:47Speaker 2: not going to say unheard of, but this is very rare.
- 9:50Speaker 2: I can't think, for example, of the last time Milwaukee
- 9:53Speaker 2: County bought land. Every now and then they're like, there
- 9:58Speaker 2: was always been the Milwauke County Grounds, but that land
- 10:01Speaker 2: was always in the control of Milwaukee County. And then
- 10:04Speaker 2: there's Milwaukee County Parks, but they've always been controlled by
- 10:07Speaker 2: Milwaukee County. Occasionally municipalities will buy land, or a school
- 10:14Speaker 2: district will buy land to put up a new school.
- 10:17Speaker 2: But in this case, the county bought the land. Now,
- 10:19Speaker 2: think about what counties do. Often the county runs an airport,
- 10:23Speaker 2: and that's the case in Dane County of Milwaukee County.
- 10:26Speaker 2: The county runs the airport. If you have a zoo,
- 10:28Speaker 2: they run the zoo. In Madison's case, I think the
- 10:30Speaker 2: city actually runs the zoo. Why would they need this land?
- 10:36Speaker 2: You have to think like a leftist. You really have
- 10:39Speaker 2: to think like a leftist. Jason, do you want to
- 10:44Speaker 2: take a stab at it? Oh? I got Dave in here.
- 10:46Speaker 2: I've got tag teaming producers today, Dave is producing. Yeah,
- 10:50Speaker 2: why do you think dank? Now? You got to think
- 10:52Speaker 2: like a leftist. Why would they just spend one hundred
- 10:54Speaker 2: and sixty five million excuse me, six million dollars to
- 10:57Speaker 2: buy one hundred and sixty five acres of land outside
- 10:59Speaker 2: of McFarlane to resell it to make ah I told
- 11:03Speaker 2: you to think like a liberal. Now you're thinking like Trump.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Now you're thinking about like what a normal person would do.
- 11:09Speaker 2: I mean, I now want you to imagine the exact opposite. See,
- 11:13Speaker 2: this is the problem that now you're gonna try to writ,
- 11:15Speaker 2: you know, reconfigure yourself and call it audible. And who understood
- 11:19Speaker 2: that you've made the exact wrong decision. No, for the
- 11:22Speaker 2: perspective of liberal, if they actually were going to sell
- 11:25Speaker 2: the land and resell it to make money for the Caspiers,
- 11:27Speaker 2: perhaps this could be defensible. Now you're getting somewhere Dane
- 11:35Speaker 2: County is buying the land and giving it away. This
- 11:41Speaker 2: defines sweetheart deal. Now you may be thinking, and every
- 11:47Speaker 2: now and then you'll see, for example, a community in
- 11:50Speaker 2: a debate in West Bend and a couple of other
- 11:52Speaker 2: places in which they'll buy land and then sell it
- 11:55Speaker 2: to a developer who's going to do economic development. They're
- 11:58Speaker 2: put up a factory, put up housing, stuff, like that. No,
- 12:02Speaker 2: Daan County's buying the land because they don't want it
- 12:06Speaker 2: ever to be developed. Now, that is not always a
- 12:12Speaker 2: terrible idea. Just because there can be growth doesn't mean
- 12:16Speaker 2: that there always should be. And we've seen in some
- 12:18Speaker 2: of our suburbs that they have been too pro growth.
- 12:21Speaker 2: In particular, I think when you keep chasing residential housing
- 12:24Speaker 2: and put in lots of subdivisions, you're just driving up
- 12:26Speaker 2: your tax space. By creating need for more schools and
- 12:30Speaker 2: so on, you screw up the nature of what your
- 12:32Speaker 2: community was. So there can be too much growth, and
- 12:39Speaker 2: sometimes it's good to just have green space. The smartest
- 12:43Speaker 2: thing New York City ever did was years ago they
- 12:46Speaker 2: set aside all of that land of Central Park to
- 12:48Speaker 2: be a giant park in the middle of Manhattan. Is
- 12:50Speaker 2: a great thing. So it's not always necessarily a bad
- 12:54Speaker 2: idea to try to have areas set aside as green space.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Other than you've got to remember that almost all of
- 13:03Speaker 2: Dane County has been growing forever. I remember I worked
- 13:08Speaker 2: there from nineteen eighty six to nineteen eighty nine. Middleton
- 13:10Speaker 2: was a pretty good sized town. Then you should see
- 13:12Speaker 2: Middleton right now. Another one, Fitchburg our radio station. I
- 13:17Speaker 2: was there was we're in Fitchburg or on the edge
- 13:19Speaker 2: of Fitchburg. Fitchburg was like it was a big town.
- 13:22Speaker 2: I had a bunch of farms and there was like
- 13:24Speaker 2: three street. There weren't much going on. They just say
- 13:26Speaker 2: Fitchburg now. But again, this is all of Dane County
- 13:29Speaker 2: for all the reasons that I mentioned before. It is
- 13:30Speaker 2: growing in terms of population, and I haven't seen any
- 13:35Speaker 2: of the lefties and Dan County stop this from happening.
- 13:39Speaker 2: So why are they now buying this land out from
- 13:43Speaker 2: underneath the village of mcfireland without telling McFarland that they
- 13:48Speaker 2: were going to do it, Because they don't want it
- 13:51Speaker 2: to be developed. So they spent six million dollars to
- 13:55Speaker 2: buy land that they will not develop. But are they
- 13:58Speaker 2: going to keep the land themselves? For example, are they're
- 14:01Speaker 2: going to declare it Dane County Parkland. No, they are
- 14:04Speaker 2: now giving it away. I'd say, I want you to
- 14:10Speaker 2: guess who they're giving it away to. Unless you have
- 14:12Speaker 2: been dependent knowledge of this, how would you ever get
- 14:14Speaker 2: it other than I'll give you a hint. They're giving
- 14:18Speaker 2: it to somebody that has a lot of money that
- 14:21Speaker 2: could have bought it themselves. They're giving it to the
- 14:24Speaker 2: ho Chunk. No, see, No, there's Dave going on. Dave again,
- 14:30Speaker 2: trying to think like some sort of business. They're giving
- 14:32Speaker 2: it to the ho Chunk for a casino. No, it's
- 14:35Speaker 2: not gonna be developed. They said they don't want it
- 14:37Speaker 2: to be developed. Now I question whether or not they
- 14:41Speaker 2: can enforce this. It's not gonna be developed when you
- 14:43Speaker 2: give it to a tribe. Because tribes are sovereign nations,
- 14:46Speaker 2: and they may have control of their own land. As
- 14:47Speaker 2: we've seen in northern Wisconsin. They think that they control
- 14:50Speaker 2: the lakes there and can stop somebody from coming in
- 14:52Speaker 2: and fishing. They're closing off roads because they're opposed to
- 14:55Speaker 2: a road that services the entire region. It runs through
- 14:57Speaker 2: the tribe they're closing off. They're closing off that anyway,
- 15:00Speaker 2: they're giving it to the ho Chunk, and would say
- 15:03Speaker 2: that they're giving it to ho Chunk because they believe
- 15:05Speaker 2: that there's like some burial grounds or something there. First
- 15:08Speaker 2: of all, just about all of North America is an
- 15:11Speaker 2: Indian burial ground because in that time they didn't always
- 15:15Speaker 2: have cemetery. Somebody died, they put them into the ground.
- 15:19Speaker 2: So they're giving it to the ho Chunk nation and
- 15:25Speaker 2: they're going to like oversee it. So this is where
- 15:31Speaker 2: the story becomes a teaching moment. The Dane County government
- 15:38Speaker 2: itself is fifteen million dollars in debt despite all the
- 15:43Speaker 2: property growth that they have there and the extremely high
- 15:45Speaker 2: property taxes in Madison. That particular government, the county government
- 15:50Speaker 2: is spending so much money that their budget is already unbalanced.
- 15:54Speaker 2: And when they're already in debt, they find an extra
- 15:57Speaker 2: six million dollars to go and buy this land that
- 16:01Speaker 2: was basically sitting around not doing much of anything, meaning
- 16:04Speaker 2: that it can't be developed in the future. McFarland can't
- 16:07Speaker 2: an exit try to encourage development. It can't be used
- 16:09Speaker 2: for housing, it can't be used for anything that's light industrial.
- 16:13Speaker 2: It can't even be used by McFarland to make a park.
- 16:16Speaker 2: So they buy it up and then give it away. Now,
- 16:19Speaker 2: if their argument is that some of this land that
- 16:22Speaker 2: the people that are buried there are the archaeological sites,
- 16:25Speaker 2: were ho Chunk, then why can't the whole Chunk by
- 16:27Speaker 2: the land. The whole Chunk cribe has a fortune. Ho
- 16:34Speaker 2: Chunk is the only tribe in Wisconsin that doesn't have
- 16:38Speaker 2: a physical reservation. The whole Chunk have this belief, and
- 16:42Speaker 2: it's cut into the treaties that they have with the
- 16:44Speaker 2: government that the whole state of Wisconsin essentially is their
- 16:47Speaker 2: tribal land, unlike the other tribes, that if they want
- 16:51Speaker 2: to build a casino, it has to be on land
- 16:52Speaker 2: that they can prol that they either have purchased or
- 16:55Speaker 2: as part of their reservation. The hole Chunk they operate
- 16:59Speaker 2: these smoke shops, and they operate Bengal casinos all over
- 17:01Speaker 2: the state of Wisconsin, and initiated their giant casino and
- 17:05Speaker 2: beearable just outside Wisconsin. Dell's suffice to say that the
- 17:08Speaker 2: ho Chunk cribe has a fortune. They're very heavy advertisers
- 17:12Speaker 2: and marketers, and they're advertising all their businesses all the time.
- 17:17Speaker 2: So why does Nan County need to buy this thing
- 17:19Speaker 2: and give it to the ho Chunk. If the ho
- 17:21Speaker 2: Chunk wanted it, why couldn't they buy it themselves. This
- 17:28Speaker 2: is why blue states fail when you're spending money like this.
- 17:34Speaker 2: This isn't a necessity, it's barely even a want. This
- 17:41Speaker 2: is something that the government there just did because we
- 17:44Speaker 2: feel like doing it. Let's throw another sloppy way. And
- 17:48Speaker 2: I guarantee you that there was lobbying from the ho
- 17:50Speaker 2: chunk on this. The woe chucker probably figured, why should
- 17:53Speaker 2: we spend six million dollars for this land. We're just
- 17:55Speaker 2: gonna let the taxpayers do it for us and gift
- 17:57Speaker 2: it to us. And again, if you can find a
- 18:00Speaker 2: bunch of lefties dumb enough to spend six million dollars
- 18:03Speaker 2: and give you the land for, why spend your own money?
- 18:07Speaker 2: The question, of course is why would the government do it?
- 18:09Speaker 2: And the answer is because they're leftists. So when you
- 18:12Speaker 2: do this kind of completely unnecessary, ridiculous spending. And remember
- 18:16Speaker 2: now this also means your tax base isn't going to
- 18:19Speaker 2: grow because they're not allowed to develop the land, So
- 18:22Speaker 2: you're spending money to make sure that the land never
- 18:25Speaker 2: generates any tax ever. And the only way that you
- 18:30Speaker 2: can keep doing all of the spending is to keep
- 18:32Speaker 2: raising your property taxes and raising your property taxes and
- 18:35Speaker 2: raising your property taxes. I've heard this question asked so
- 18:41Speaker 2: many times. How is it that some states, some of
- 18:44Speaker 2: these red states, can have such low taxes but seem
- 18:48Speaker 2: to have the same services as the high tax states.
- 18:53Speaker 2: I spend a few months a year in Florida. Florida
- 18:55Speaker 2: doesn't even have an income tax. The Florida property taxeseople,
- 19:00Speaker 2: they're bitching about them, but they're lower than they are here.
- 19:03Speaker 2: I'm telling you, there's parks all over the place. Down there,
- 19:06Speaker 2: there's all sorts of land that doesn't generate anything. You've
- 19:09Speaker 2: ever heard of, the Everglades. They've got zillions of public universities,
- 19:15Speaker 2: all of our universities that are under one umbrella. They've
- 19:17Speaker 2: got numerous government run universities, University of Florida System, Florida
- 19:21Speaker 2: State University System, Florida International Self. These they're all all
- 19:25Speaker 2: government public universities, so they seem to have all of
- 19:28Speaker 2: the same kinds of services. They have roads all over
- 19:31Speaker 2: the place. True, they don't have to put up with
- 19:32Speaker 2: road salt, but they have to deal with the damage
- 19:34Speaker 2: of hurricanes. But the taxes are lower. And the difference
- 19:38Speaker 2: is simply in states that are red. States that are
- 19:41Speaker 2: many that are ape. First of all, by not having
- 19:44Speaker 2: an income tax, it means they don't have income tax
- 19:47Speaker 2: money to spend. In the case of Wisconsin, because governments
- 19:50Speaker 2: have all of this tax money. Therefore they have it
- 19:53Speaker 2: and they will spend it. So the tax burden keeps
- 19:58Speaker 2: getting greater and greater and great and when the governments
- 20:00Speaker 2: are asked to cut, we can't cut. Well, the reason
- 20:03Speaker 2: you can't cut is you just you just blew the
- 20:05Speaker 2: six million dollars buying this farmland and giving it away
- 20:08Speaker 2: to a tribe that is worth millions and millions of dollars.
- 20:14Speaker 2: So McFarland is griping about this. The member of the
- 20:17Speaker 2: county board who represents McFarland. McFarland's officials are saying, we
- 20:21Speaker 2: asked the county board member who represents her or in
- 20:23Speaker 2: the county board, was the county going to be buying
- 20:25Speaker 2: this land? And he said no. Three months later they
- 20:29Speaker 2: bought the land. So this supervisor lied to them. He
- 20:33Speaker 2: lied to the community he represents. He was asked about
- 20:36Speaker 2: this by this newspaper the I think I quoted the
- 20:38Speaker 2: name Herald Leader, I believe, and he said, I forgot
- 20:42Speaker 2: to tell him. My bad. They asked him, is the
- 20:46Speaker 2: county going to be buying the land? He said no,
- 20:48Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about that. Then they buy the land.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Leader Independent is the name of the newspaper. Then they
- 20:54Speaker 2: buy the land. Oh yeah, I guess when it came up.
- 20:56Speaker 2: I guess I went back. I forgot to go back
- 20:58Speaker 2: and tell McFarland. Well, of course if got to go
- 21:00Speaker 2: and do that, because McFarland would have raised Holy hell,
- 21:03Speaker 2: because they don't want this land sold out from underneath them.
- 21:06Speaker 2: This story is a perfect case study of why taxes
- 21:16Speaker 2: are higher in liberal states. It's because the money is
- 21:20Speaker 2: spent by things that a bunch of dilettantish public officials
- 21:23Speaker 2: want to spend it on that does nothing to contribute
- 21:27Speaker 2: to the public good, has nothing to do with necessity,
- 21:30Speaker 2: does very little to affect anyone's quality of life. Furthermore,
- 21:36Speaker 2: it's very, very possible that if this tribe, the ho Chunk,
- 21:39Speaker 2: wanted that land badly enough, it would have bought it
- 21:41Speaker 2: on its own. Let me move to another story that
- 21:47Speaker 2: I think has some relevancy. There's going to be three
- 21:52Speaker 2: in this segment that I mentioned. Everybody knows I did
- 21:56Speaker 2: this story briefly a few months ago on the podcast
- 21:58Speaker 2: last year, but new study now that expands about it.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Everybody knows that across the United States, learning suffered during
- 22:08Speaker 2: the COVID lockdowns. Some school districts were closed for in
- 22:12Speaker 2: person learning for a year, others did the hybrid thing.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Some reopened real quickly, but across the board, Wisconsin schools
- 22:21Speaker 2: were slower to reopen than many other states, in part
- 22:24Speaker 2: because the two largest school districts stayed on lockdown very long,
- 22:29Speaker 2: Milwaukee and Madison. Milwaukee public schools were locked down months
- 22:34Speaker 2: after all the private schools had kids back in same
- 22:38Speaker 2: thing happened in Madison. The Lefty Teachers Union has a
- 22:41Speaker 2: lot of clout. The teachers didn't want to come back
- 22:43Speaker 2: into the classroom they had at home learning for a
- 22:46Speaker 2: long time, well over a year past. When COVID hit,
- 22:50Speaker 2: not surprisingly, the test scores scra just cratered. This is
- 23:02Speaker 2: not an indictment of the in home learning. It's an
- 23:06Speaker 2: indictment of people who didn't know how to do in
- 23:08Speaker 2: home learning doing in home learning. I actually wonder if
- 23:11Speaker 2: I was a kid, would I have benefited from in
- 23:13Speaker 2: home learning. I know that for example, in our company,
- 23:16Speaker 2: when they do training where you watch the video and
- 23:18Speaker 2: so on, I'm very good I pick up on that
- 23:19Speaker 2: stuff when there isn't a distraction of anything going on
- 23:22Speaker 2: in the you know, I would think that if it's
- 23:26Speaker 2: got to be hard for a lot of kids to
- 23:27Speaker 2: be in a classroom where there's people that are checking
- 23:29Speaker 2: their computers, and people are being disruptive, and all these
- 23:32Speaker 2: distractions going on. Maybe learning in a properly put together
- 23:35Speaker 2: lesson plan in a computer would be a beneficial way.
- 23:39Speaker 2: Except these public schools that switched to it had never
- 23:42Speaker 2: done it. They didn't have anything set up, there was
- 23:44Speaker 2: no infrastructure to do it. They just turned on the computer,
- 23:49Speaker 2: put a zoom cam on. The teacher who puts on
- 23:51Speaker 2: a few things, tells the kids to do a couple
- 23:53Speaker 2: of things. And the kids were mostly screwing off, and
- 23:56Speaker 2: the teachers weren't doing any follow up on up on,
- 24:00Speaker 2: and a lot of the futures got to goldbrick for
- 24:02Speaker 2: a year. And of course they wanted to keep it
- 24:04Speaker 2: that way. They don't like their jobs, they like sitting
- 24:06Speaker 2: on their asses. And they did, and we see the result.
- 24:10Speaker 2: The test scores crashed. And the thing with a year
- 24:16Speaker 2: of loss learning, it's not like when you come back,
- 24:20Speaker 2: you'll go back. You know, let's suppose a school closed
- 24:22Speaker 2: for a year and a half. When you come back,
- 24:24Speaker 2: it's not like you go back and relearn that year
- 24:26Speaker 2: and a half. You never ever catch up. So what
- 24:32Speaker 2: has happened over the last several years is Gradually the
- 24:37Speaker 2: test scores have started to move back up, but they
- 24:39Speaker 2: are in almost all cases lower than they were before
- 24:43Speaker 2: the pandemic. In other words, crash slight recovery, but still lower.
- 24:48Speaker 2: In other words, the long term damage to this generation
- 24:52Speaker 2: is irreversible because of the terrible decision that was made
- 24:56Speaker 2: to close schools to protect kids from the virus. But
- 25:00Speaker 2: they didn't get it was all in attempt to allow
- 25:06Speaker 2: the teachers to use their fear of COVID, and teachers
- 25:09Speaker 2: were some of those that were most terrified of COVID. Well,
- 25:15Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to die to teach kids. There are
- 25:16Speaker 2: all sorts of jobs in which you may die, you know.
- 25:19Speaker 2: I noticed that none of the other jobs that actually
- 25:21Speaker 2: people kept going in every day had to worry about dying.
- 25:24Speaker 2: And how many people under the age of fifty were
- 25:26Speaker 2: dying from COVID Almost none. But because we appease them,
- 25:31Speaker 2: we set back learning all of this time. But here's
- 25:33Speaker 2: where the news story comes in. I mentioned that pretty
- 25:37Speaker 2: much across the board, there's recovery in these test scores
- 25:40Speaker 2: now that we're away from COVID, but we just haven't
- 25:42Speaker 2: gotten back to where we were before COVID. Hit. Wisconsin's rebound, however,
- 25:49Speaker 2: has been one of the worst in the country. I
- 25:53Speaker 2: want you to imagine that we've got every state is
- 25:55Speaker 2: a ball, and we're dropping the ball off of rough
- 26:00Speaker 2: that's twenty five feet in the air, but all the
- 26:02Speaker 2: balls are made of different materials. Remember super balls. You're
- 26:08Speaker 2: not as old as me. You remember super They didn't
- 26:10Speaker 2: last that long. The super Ball came in. What I
- 26:13Speaker 2: was like in the fifth grade and like everybody had
- 26:16Speaker 2: a have whatever. However high a ball would bounce before
- 26:19Speaker 2: the super Bowl came in. The super Bowl bounced like
- 26:22Speaker 2: nineteen thousand times higher. It was unbelievable. You bounced that
- 26:25Speaker 2: thing hard enough. I mean they could hit the moon.
- 26:28Speaker 2: I actually think the super Ball is where the name
- 26:30Speaker 2: super Bowl came from. I think it was Lamar Hunt
- 26:33Speaker 2: of the Kansas City Chiefs his kid at a Super
- 26:36Speaker 2: Bowl and he was using that tournament. It occurred to
- 26:38Speaker 2: Lamar Hunt to call the super Bowl the super Bowl
- 26:40Speaker 2: because he heard a super Bowl anyway, So you've got
- 26:44Speaker 2: like the super Bowl. Now imagine some mushy, wet, flat basketball.
- 26:49Speaker 2: They're going to rebound back after being dropped at different levels.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Our test scores went splat hardly any bounce back or
- 26:59Speaker 2: recovery at all. Again, you can go to the whole
- 27:08Speaker 2: blue state red state thing. I think one of the
- 27:11Speaker 2: reasons the recovery is not that great is because we
- 27:15Speaker 2: had some of the larger school districts stay closed for
- 27:20Speaker 2: so long. Every extra week that you stayed closed, or
- 27:23Speaker 2: every time in which you stayed more on hybrid than
- 27:25Speaker 2: going to full in class learning, the recovery is going
- 27:29Speaker 2: to be slower because you lost more time. There has
- 27:37Speaker 2: never been a proper accounting for the public health officers
- 27:44Speaker 2: and the public health leaders local and national who pushed
- 27:47Speaker 2: these lockdowns. I don't believe a single public health official
- 27:51Speaker 2: in the state of Wisconsin has been fired for pushing
- 27:53Speaker 2: these lockdowns. I don't think one of them ever bucked
- 27:55Speaker 2: the advice from the CDC and Fauci. Fauci himself is
- 27:59Speaker 2: still not been criminally charged, but clearly it's water over
- 28:06Speaker 2: the dam. We made terrible mistakes in COVID, and one
- 28:10Speaker 2: of the things that we did is we damage the
- 28:12Speaker 2: psyche of the kids and screwed up their learning. What
- 28:16Speaker 2: we see, though, is the bounce back and the recovery
- 28:19Speaker 2: from that has been better in most places than it
- 28:22Speaker 2: is in Wisconsin. There's a lot of theories on this,
- 28:28Speaker 2: and I said, first of all, the obvious one is
- 28:30Speaker 2: most of the states that it bounced back more than
- 28:32Speaker 2: us were the ones that stayed locked down for a
- 28:34Speaker 2: lesser period of time. But also this a lot of
- 28:38Speaker 2: bad habits developed in the education system during COVID. A
- 28:42Speaker 2: lot of these teachers got used to the not having
- 28:44Speaker 2: to do much teaching, and a lot of the school
- 28:45Speaker 2: administrators liked the idea of relying on video, and a
- 28:53Speaker 2: whole lot of the practices that were in place in
- 28:57Speaker 2: classrooms before COVID never fully returned. Look at the whole
- 29:04Speaker 2: radicalization that's going on among teachers, the embrace of all
- 29:08Speaker 2: this gender stuff. The teacher in Waukeshaw who sued over
- 29:13Speaker 2: the school district refusing to allow her to sing LGBTQ
- 29:17Speaker 2: songs in school. This became the priority of educators. They
- 29:22Speaker 2: were emboldened after they got their way over COVID. They
- 29:26Speaker 2: were emboldened during the years that Biden was in charge.
- 29:29Speaker 2: They were embolded when the gender crap was shoved down
- 29:32Speaker 2: our throats, and when they were doing all of those
- 29:35Speaker 2: things that meant that they weren't doing teaching moved to
- 29:40Speaker 2: my third of the three stories that I want to
- 29:42Speaker 2: do with regard to the whole blue state red state thing.
- 29:47Speaker 2: One of the most fascinating phenomena in policing of my
- 29:52Speaker 2: life is going on right now following there has been
- 29:59Speaker 2: a push for this for time, but especially after George Floyd.
- 30:03Speaker 2: There was the case in Missouri. Prior to that than
- 30:08Speaker 2: George Floyd, a number of them have come up, but
- 30:11Speaker 2: there was a major push, almost entirely from the left
- 30:16Speaker 2: and from racial advocates to make police officers wear body cameras.
- 30:23Speaker 2: There no shit was the cops are out there brutalizing
- 30:26Speaker 2: people all the time, and in particularly they're brutalizing people
- 30:29Speaker 2: of color, and there are all these unjustified shootings. Got
- 30:33Speaker 2: didn't do anything in the shoot him. Guy isn't resisting
- 30:36Speaker 2: and they beat the hell out of him, so we
- 30:39Speaker 2: were told. So they demanded that we get body cameras
- 30:44Speaker 2: on all of the police officers. It was a major
- 30:47Speaker 2: push of the left. A lot of police agencies were resisted.
- 30:55Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the police unions are thinking
- 30:58Speaker 2: all these are going to do is they're going to
- 30:59Speaker 2: be used. Its ammunition to fire our people. A cop
- 31:03Speaker 2: who shows slight excessive use of forestale exaggerated police officers
- 31:09Speaker 2: are going to be afraid to pull out their guns
- 31:10Speaker 2: and shoot if the video could show that it's any
- 31:13Speaker 2: kind of a gray area, They're going to hesitate. Hesitate.
- 31:15Speaker 2: It's going to cost their lives. And many of the
- 31:17Speaker 2: police organizations themselves oppose the bodycams, but the argument went
- 31:24Speaker 2: out and across the country. Department after department after the
- 31:27Speaker 2: department went to bodycams. So we have a case right
- 31:31Speaker 2: now in the United States of your department either has
- 31:34Speaker 2: body cams or it does it. In some cases they
- 31:36Speaker 2: equipped some officers with body cams, but not the detectives,
- 31:41Speaker 2: not the people that I run out on patrol duty
- 31:43Speaker 2: and so on. There's no national standard, and I don't
- 31:47Speaker 2: know this, but I don't think any state has required them.
- 31:50Speaker 2: It's possible they have, but usually it's a local decision.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Your police department or your sheriff's department either does it
- 31:57Speaker 2: or doesn't do it. In some cases they have dash
- 32:01Speaker 2: cams on the squads, but not necessarily body cams on
- 32:05Speaker 2: the uniforms. So there's no standard at all. It's all
- 32:08Speaker 2: over the map. What has happened with the body cams
- 32:16Speaker 2: is the exact opposite of what the left had thought.
- 32:22Speaker 2: Leftists thought that these body cams would expose the brutality
- 32:26Speaker 2: of the American police officer. Instead, the body cams have
- 32:32Speaker 2: again and again and again and again and again exonerated
- 32:35Speaker 2: the police officers and often have proven the guilt of
- 32:42Speaker 2: the offender or the outrageous behavior of the offender. You
- 32:51Speaker 2: either view these things on YouTube or you do it them.
- 32:53Speaker 2: When I say either do or you do it, YouTube
- 32:55Speaker 2: has an algorithm, so if you watch certain types of
- 32:57Speaker 2: videos on the feed that they create for you, there's
- 33:00Speaker 2: going to be more of those types of videos. So
- 33:02Speaker 2: if you watch police bodycam videos, you watch more police
- 33:05Speaker 2: bodycam videos because YouTube seedes that you watch them, so
- 33:08Speaker 2: they put up more and more and more of them. Anyway,
- 33:12Speaker 2: there is now a cottage industry of entrepreneurs who have
- 33:15Speaker 2: created companies for the purpose of showing police bodycam videos.
- 33:22Speaker 2: And some of them they're just run by AI. AI
- 33:25Speaker 2: puts the thing together and the narrator is not even
- 33:27Speaker 2: a human being, it's AI. And it's pretty easy to
- 33:30Speaker 2: tell which ones are AI and which ones aren't. And
- 33:33Speaker 2: once they're out there, somebody might steal them from the
- 33:35Speaker 2: original one that puts it up and through their own
- 33:37Speaker 2: version of the bodycam. But there are others that do
- 33:41Speaker 2: extremely high production value. They'll splice together nine or two.
- 33:46Speaker 2: If there's ten police officers involved, they'll splice together nine
- 33:50Speaker 2: or ten body cams, four or five dash cams, intersperse this,
- 33:54Speaker 2: put in really creative narration, clean it all up, and
- 33:58Speaker 2: they'll produce this. As these are professionally done documentaries. These
- 34:02Speaker 2: are better than those forty eight hours documentaries that they do.
- 34:04Speaker 2: There's a company called Midwest Safety that every time they
- 34:10Speaker 2: create one of their videos they're getting keen to fifteen
- 34:13Speaker 2: million views. They're putting a lot of effort into doing
- 34:17Speaker 2: these that are very very well done, but they can
- 34:19Speaker 2: only do it in the communities that have bodycams. And
- 34:24Speaker 2: as I say, what the body cams are doing in
- 34:26Speaker 2: many instances is humiliating the individual involved. And we've had
- 34:31Speaker 2: all sorts of cases that people would not have necessarily
- 34:34Speaker 2: thought but become fodder for this bodycam industry. A domestic call.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Police officers respond to a call where husband and wife
- 34:43Speaker 2: are fighting with one another. The cops show up, and
- 34:48Speaker 2: whoever the person in the wrong is, it starts screaming
- 34:51Speaker 2: and yelling at the cops. Those videos are being shown
- 34:55Speaker 2: people pulled over for drug driving instead of handing over
- 34:58Speaker 2: their license take in the drunk test. Some of them
- 35:02Speaker 2: are showing unbelievable belligerence and resisting of arrest. Maybe it's
- 35:08Speaker 2: just the ones that the YouTube that the companies that
- 35:10Speaker 2: are producing the videos are showing, But an inordinate number
- 35:13Speaker 2: of the people that are object to the police pulling
- 35:16Speaker 2: them over are women, And there seem to be a
- 35:18Speaker 2: lot of women that just freak out at the notion
- 35:20Speaker 2: of being thrown into the back of a squad car
- 35:22Speaker 2: and being hauled to jail for drunk driving. No, I
- 35:24Speaker 2: suspect most people just comply because they're not going to
- 35:27Speaker 2: show the video of the person Okay, I'm drunk and
- 35:29Speaker 2: goes and sits on the back of the car. There's
- 35:30Speaker 2: nothing interesting about that. But if you fight like crazy
- 35:33Speaker 2: and yell and scream and make all sorts of comments
- 35:35Speaker 2: to the cops and wish everybody dead, they're going to
- 35:38Speaker 2: show them. So you have people who have essentially ruined
- 35:42Speaker 2: their lives whether their behavior when interacting with police officers. Now,
- 35:49Speaker 2: if you're drunk or you're on drugs, obviously you're not
- 35:51Speaker 2: thinking clearly. But you would think after all this time,
- 35:55Speaker 2: now that this is out there, that people would know
- 35:58Speaker 2: that if a cop pulls you over, you can't give
- 36:00Speaker 2: them lip anymore. You can't do any of this stuff
- 36:02Speaker 2: because if you do, there's a good chance and it's
- 36:04Speaker 2: gonna be slapped up on YouTube. But this thought process
- 36:06Speaker 2: apparently doesn't occur to people. Now I know why. Let's
- 36:13Speaker 2: imagine Jason gets pulled over by a cop and cusses
- 36:19Speaker 2: the cop of Blue Streak and gets out of the
- 36:20Speaker 2: car and fights at the cop and shoves them around
- 36:23Speaker 2: and all of that. You may ask yourself, how does
- 36:26Speaker 2: some company like and these companies just have generic names
- 36:29Speaker 2: like Bodycam Video or Midwest Safety, how do they know
- 36:33Speaker 2: to get that bodycam of your interaction with the cop?
- 36:36Speaker 2: How do they know that you have no idea? Well,
- 36:40Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you how they know it. The cops
- 36:42Speaker 2: tip them off. If let's imagine you're a cop and
- 36:45Speaker 2: somebody and the cops, because the cops now know they're
- 36:48Speaker 2: on body cams. And I think that this has improved
- 36:51Speaker 2: the behavior of police as well. I'm sure in the
- 36:53Speaker 2: past that there are cops who might have gotten in
- 36:55Speaker 2: an additional soccer might have talked like smart asses to
- 36:58Speaker 2: the individuals that are being pulled over, But the cops
- 37:00Speaker 2: know that they're on bodycam, and the people that don't
- 37:03Speaker 2: think about the body camera off and the people that
- 37:05Speaker 2: are being that are the subjects here. So if you've
- 37:07Speaker 2: got somebody that's a complete idiot to you or somebody
- 37:10Speaker 2: that's throw you know, there's a couple of prominent officials
- 37:13Speaker 2: back east that got caught. I think an assistant attorney
- 37:16Speaker 2: general in Delaware maybe here one of those states. They
- 37:19Speaker 2: caught in this. The cop will tip off one of
- 37:21Speaker 2: these editors and say, hey, make an open records requests
- 37:23Speaker 2: for this. It's really good. How else would they know
- 37:26Speaker 2: about which cases to go and seek the videos out right?
- 37:30Speaker 2: It's been a great thing. People that have been behaving
- 37:34Speaker 2: terribly are exposed for their conduct. People who are making
- 37:39Speaker 2: false allegations that the cop fondle them or the cop
- 37:42Speaker 2: abuse them, the cop is being cleared and the person
- 37:45Speaker 2: is exposed for this. It's also I think eliminated much
- 37:50Speaker 2: of the misconduct that might have occurred in the past
- 37:52Speaker 2: from police officers because they now know that there's going
- 37:55Speaker 2: to be video proof their own video that they were
- 37:58Speaker 2: in the wrong. So this has become an incredible tool
- 38:02Speaker 2: for law enforcement and the worst thing that's ever happened
- 38:06Speaker 2: to crooks, and the worst thing that's ever happened to
- 38:09Speaker 2: people that are smartened off to cops and so on.
- 38:13Speaker 2: You now have numerous criminal defense attorneys saying that they
- 38:16Speaker 2: wish that these body cams weren't out there. In other words,
- 38:19Speaker 2: rather than exposing the cops, the body cams almost across
- 38:25Speaker 2: the board are making the police look good, and they're
- 38:28Speaker 2: exposing the persons that police had contact with. It's quite
- 38:33Speaker 2: the twist in the story. Here's where I'm going with this.
- 38:38Speaker 2: We have here in southeastern Wisconsin numerous police agencies that
- 38:43Speaker 2: do not yet have body cams. This is my blue state,
- 38:47Speaker 2: red state as an example, and I'm gonna cite this
- 38:52Speaker 2: as an example because I was attempted to the way
- 38:55Speaker 2: I found out that this agency doesn't have body cams
- 38:57Speaker 2: is I sought the body cams and I was told
- 39:01Speaker 2: we don't have them. There was a case that occurred.
- 39:04Speaker 2: I won't mention the specific case, but it was in
- 39:06Speaker 2: Wakashawk County that I wanted to get the bodycam video
- 39:09Speaker 2: of because I wanted to post it myself. It turns
- 39:13Speaker 2: out the only had dash cam video because the Wakashaw
- 39:16Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Department does not have bodycams. So the interrogation
- 39:20Speaker 2: that went on at the Sheriff's department is not available
- 39:22Speaker 2: in any of the interaction with the suspect is not available.
- 39:24Speaker 2: So how the suspect actually behaved we don't know because
- 39:27Speaker 2: there is no body cam. The Wakashaw County Sheriff's Department
- 39:33Speaker 2: is one of the larger law enforcement agencies in the
- 39:35Speaker 2: state of Wisconsin. To me, it is unconscionable that they
- 39:38Speaker 2: don't have bodycams. This is the era that we are
- 39:41Speaker 2: now in. This is a tremendous tool for law enforcement.
- 39:45Speaker 2: It's also has significant ability to help show the violation
- 39:49Speaker 2: committed by the lawbreaker, and it protects the police officers
- 39:55Speaker 2: or the sheriff's deputies themselves. So when I watch all
- 39:59Speaker 2: these videos YouTube, it's because the communities involved all have
- 40:02Speaker 2: the bodycams. People have been wondering why there are so
- 40:05Speaker 2: many bodycam videos from Florida and Texas and the answer
- 40:12Speaker 2: is now, those are two red states because they have
- 40:14Speaker 2: been the most aggressive states in terms of getting the
- 40:18Speaker 2: funding for the body cams. Here in Wisconsin, we have
- 40:23Speaker 2: all sorts of communities that don't yet have body cams.
- 40:27Speaker 2: But we're able to go out and buy one hundred
- 40:29Speaker 2: and sixty acres of land and give it away to
- 40:31Speaker 2: a rich Indian prime It's again all a matter of
- 40:35Speaker 2: your priorities. The pressure to go to bodycams and the
- 40:40Speaker 2: left stopped the moment that the lefties realized that this
- 40:44Speaker 2: idea of body cams is backfiring on them now that
- 40:47Speaker 2: the body cams are doing pretty much nothing other than
- 40:51Speaker 2: show how bad the crooks are and what police officers
- 40:56Speaker 2: have to put up with, and the patients these officers
- 40:58Speaker 2: have with the belligerents that they're confronted with. There's been
- 41:01Speaker 2: no desire on the part of the left at all
- 41:03Speaker 2: to go in this direction. Now. In the Waukeshaw County case,
- 41:07Speaker 2: I am told that Sheriff Severson wants the county board
- 41:11Speaker 2: to fund the body camps for him. The county board
- 41:13Speaker 2: believes that the sheriff should be able to take his
- 41:15Speaker 2: existing budget and do it. The sheriff believes that this
- 41:17Speaker 2: would mean that he'd have to cut the jobs of deputies.
- 41:20Speaker 2: I will point out again that Waukeshaw County is a
- 41:23Speaker 2: rather conservative county, and the priorities in terms of the
- 41:26Speaker 2: spending there are completely screwed up, as they are almost everywhere,
- 41:30Speaker 2: and they're even more screwed up in the blue counties
- 41:34Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. I don't have an actual chart or a survey.
- 41:38Speaker 2: Somebody would have to do it, and I would think
- 41:40Speaker 2: one of the public interests thing tanks in Wisconsin ought
- 41:43Speaker 2: to do it. Maybe makaiver would do it. Contact every
- 41:47Speaker 2: law enforcement agency in the state you have body cams
- 41:50Speaker 2: or not, and put up a chart and post it
- 41:51Speaker 2: online so we know who does and who does it.
- 41:55Speaker 2: For the ones that want to say that this is well,
- 41:56Speaker 2: it's just too costly to go ahead and do it,
- 41:59Speaker 2: ask yourselves how some of these two bit towns in
- 42:01Speaker 2: Georgia and Florida and Texas, and how are they able
- 42:04Speaker 2: to do it? Like if you see a video of
- 42:10Speaker 2: people acting up at the airport, they're almost always the
- 42:13Speaker 2: Dallas Airport, the Houston Airport, or among the airports in Florida.
- 42:19Speaker 2: People say, well, is it Are those the only airports
- 42:21Speaker 2: people act up? And no, those are the only airports
- 42:23Speaker 2: in which the officers of patrol of the airports are
- 42:25Speaker 2: wearing bodycabs. You could only seek bodycam video of areas
- 42:30Speaker 2: in which the cops are wearing the bodycabs. You're listening
- 42:36Speaker 2: to the Markpelling podcast. This is the Markpelling podcast. There's
- 42:43Speaker 2: a story out there that I think kind of almost
- 42:46Speaker 2: everybody knows what was going on, but hardly anybody knows
- 42:49Speaker 2: exactly what the details were. I'm not going to dive
- 42:52Speaker 2: into the tails and depths, but I want to comment
- 42:55Speaker 2: on it briefly and launch them into something else. It
- 42:57Speaker 2: was this whole lawsuit of elon My versus open Ai.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Open ai, whose big product is chat Gypt, was created
- 43:08Speaker 2: initially as almost the charity. It was created as a nonprofit,
- 43:13Speaker 2: and the idea was the chatchpt would embrace AI artificial
- 43:22Speaker 2: intelligence and then give the technology away to anybody that
- 43:28Speaker 2: wanted it. It's sort of in other words, would be
- 43:31Speaker 2: the nonprofit that would advance the science and advance the capabilities.
- 43:36Speaker 2: It was funded by tech companies, and then once it
- 43:38Speaker 2: was created, anybody would be able to grab it and
- 43:41Speaker 2: use it. And Musk himself was one of the initial
- 43:48Speaker 2: funders of open ai. All right, open ai gets started.
- 43:56Speaker 2: It's got this guy Sam Altman who's running it, and
- 43:58Speaker 2: again it's created an initial as a nonprofit and OpenAI
- 44:03Speaker 2: creates their first product, chat GPT and it works really well.
- 44:09Speaker 2: And because it works really well, it initially shows signs
- 44:14Speaker 2: of being a monstrous money maker, a huge cash cow.
- 44:21Speaker 2: But remember they were a nonprofit. So Sam Oltman and
- 44:26Speaker 2: the people on the board at open Ai decide, well,
- 44:31Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to be a nonprofit anymore.
- 44:33Speaker 2: They convert to a for profit mode. This is what
- 44:38Speaker 2: led to Musk's lawsuit. Musk essentially said that a fraud
- 44:42Speaker 2: was committed by getting the people who kicked in the
- 44:44Speaker 2: money to start this being told it would be a
- 44:46Speaker 2: nonprofit that everybody would share in the proceeds, and instead
- 44:50Speaker 2: the money that they he and others financed this with
- 44:54Speaker 2: became a profit making company for the individuals who ended
- 44:57Speaker 2: up running the whole thing. The lawsuit, the jury ruled
- 45:03Speaker 2: against Musk, but not on the merits. They ruled that
- 45:06Speaker 2: the statute of limitations had passed. If that's true, I
- 45:10Speaker 2: don't understand why Musk's lawyers would have brought this. They're
- 45:13Speaker 2: going to appeal, But in the analysis that I've heard
- 45:15Speaker 2: from the lawyers on TV, one of the things that courts,
- 45:18Speaker 2: just the appeals courts don't have. Return is the statute
- 45:21Speaker 2: of limitations. Statute of limitations has passed, the statute of
- 45:24Speaker 2: limitations has passed. That he didn't file the suit in time,
- 45:27Speaker 2: that a period of time had passed beyond his investment,
- 45:30Speaker 2: or passed whenever it was that they did that, he
- 45:32Speaker 2: objected to it and didn't file the lawsuit in time,
- 45:35Speaker 2: so the jury just dismissed it and ruled against him
- 45:37Speaker 2: without ruling actually on the merits. Very briefly, we see
- 45:44Speaker 2: this in a different way in healthcare. Almost all, not all,
- 45:50Speaker 2: almost all the major healthcare companies in the United States
- 45:53Speaker 2: are nonprofits. Here in the Milwaukee area, the hospital companies
- 45:58Speaker 2: that we have Aurora in Madison, UW Madison Hospitals, who
- 46:04Speaker 2: through all of them, they're all nonprofit. Yet despite the
- 46:12Speaker 2: fact that they are nonprofit, they are involved in intense
- 46:17Speaker 2: competition to make a buck. Now, their argument is we
- 46:23Speaker 2: just take the profits that we make and funnel it
- 46:25Speaker 2: back into the operation. Nobody actually gets the profit. But
- 46:31Speaker 2: if it was truly a nonprofit that was created for
- 46:33Speaker 2: the public good, they wouldn't be all that hellbend on
- 46:37Speaker 2: who gets what market share you know, if you've got
- 46:42Speaker 2: and they're not direct, they don't do the same thing.
- 46:44Speaker 2: But I'm just gonna use this to make a point.
- 46:46Speaker 2: Goodwill in the Salvation Army they do different things, but
- 46:50Speaker 2: they're both aimed at helping out poor people. Goodwill is
- 46:52Speaker 2: more of people with disabilities. The Salvation Army is more
- 46:55Speaker 2: for low income people, but they operate thrift shops and
- 46:58Speaker 2: so on, saying Vincent DePaul is another one that does
- 47:00Speaker 2: that in different forms. Normally, if you're a good Will
- 47:05Speaker 2: and you see that the Salvation Army is expanding to
- 47:07Speaker 2: provide help to other people, that'd be a good thing. Okay,
- 47:10Speaker 2: they're doing their thing and we can't do as much
- 47:12Speaker 2: of that, or vice versa. But in the healthcare business,
- 47:15Speaker 2: these nonprofits compete with one another really aggressively. And that's because,
- 47:22Speaker 2: as I've said many times, there's a lot of profit
- 47:24Speaker 2: to be made in the nonprofit world. The salaries are enormous.
- 47:30Speaker 2: The people who run these institutions make a lot of money.
- 47:37Speaker 2: So getting back now to the example of open AI,
- 47:41Speaker 2: the point that Musk makes if something is set up
- 47:44Speaker 2: to be a nonprofit and then they turn around to
- 47:47Speaker 2: gory it operated as a profit making institution. Let's think
- 47:54Speaker 2: of the example now of the Green Bay Packers. The
- 47:57Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers are a nonprofit organization, but the Green
- 48:01Speaker 2: Bay Packers have employees who make millions and millions and
- 48:05Speaker 2: millions of dollars. There isn't an owner that gets the profits.
- 48:10Speaker 2: That's the only reason it's not considered to be a nonprofit.
- 48:14Speaker 2: There isn't the you know, I'm a shareholder of the Packers,
- 48:17Speaker 2: numerous Packer fans. By these shares, you don't get a
- 48:19Speaker 2: Danny gibnting, you don't get any money back. And if
- 48:21Speaker 2: the Packers wherever sold, you wouldn't get the proceeds of it.
- 48:25Speaker 2: The money is plowed back into the company. But the
- 48:29Speaker 2: Packers compete very hard against for profit companies, and there
- 48:32Speaker 2: are people who work for the Packers who make a fortune.
- 48:34Speaker 2: So when people hear the word nonprofit, they tend to
- 48:36Speaker 2: think of, well, these are people that are doing things
- 48:39Speaker 2: because of the incredible need that's offered. No, no, no, no,
- 48:41Speaker 2: there's a lot of money involved in this, which brings
- 48:45Speaker 2: me to the next part of the AI thing. We
- 48:48Speaker 2: have in the United States right now a rebellion growing
- 48:53Speaker 2: against artificial intelligence. There was on Wednesday of this week.
- 48:58Speaker 2: A major story in the Wall Street Drum Page one.
- 49:01Speaker 2: I'll read the online. The American rebellion against AI is
- 49:05Speaker 2: gaining steam. Booed commencement speakers, blocked data centers, plummeting poll numbers.
- 49:15Speaker 2: Fast growing industry has a faster growing crisis. The story
- 49:19Speaker 2: is about the backlash developing in the United States to AI.
- 49:24Speaker 2: There were some commencement addresses over the weekend from people
- 49:27Speaker 2: that are on the cutting edge of AI. They were
- 49:29Speaker 2: speaking to these college graduates, and the graduates are booing them.
- 49:33Speaker 2: The reason they're booing them is they are very threatened
- 49:36Speaker 2: by AI. Here's somebody graduating from four year university. The
- 49:40Speaker 2: Oh my god, I got this. I took out this
- 49:41Speaker 2: big student loan. I have this degree? Is my job?
- 49:44Speaker 2: Am I going to have a job? Or is AI
- 49:47Speaker 2: going to negate the need for me? So, rather than
- 49:52Speaker 2: embrace AI and figure out how you can become part
- 49:56Speaker 2: of it and thrive in an environment where AI helps you,
- 50:00Speaker 2: there's a tremendous resistance to it. Another example would be
- 50:06Speaker 2: the data centers. In order to power all of this AI,
- 50:10Speaker 2: we need to have data centers that produce all of
- 50:14Speaker 2: the data that AI churns out and uses in order
- 50:18Speaker 2: to be what it is. AI. The data centers are
- 50:23Speaker 2: popping up all over the United States. They're huge. In
- 50:28Speaker 2: some cases, they're extremely I mean, this is I think,
- 50:32Speaker 2: really an interesting point. In some cases the data centers
- 50:35Speaker 2: get incredible opposition. In other places, nobody raises a peep
- 50:39Speaker 2: of opposition. I'll just use in our own area two examples.
- 50:44Speaker 2: The really big data center that Microsoft is developing on
- 50:48Speaker 2: the southern portion of Racine County. It's the old Fox consite.
- 50:53Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's no opposition. I'm just saying I've
- 50:55Speaker 2: heard almost none. Microsoft is gradually rolling it out. I
- 51:02Speaker 2: think they're slowing the pace of the development of it,
- 51:05Speaker 2: but the footprint is to be huge. There's already hundreds
- 51:07Speaker 2: of employees that are working there. It's not yet fully
- 51:10Speaker 2: built out. I just show past here a few days ago.
- 51:13Speaker 2: It's way more built out than the Fox con thing
- 51:15Speaker 2: was built out. And it's just going to continue to grow.
- 51:19Speaker 2: It may be the largest one in southeastern Wisconsin. We
- 51:22Speaker 2: don't know. But Microsoft obviously has to have a lot
- 51:25Speaker 2: of them, and the one in Racine County is going
- 51:28Speaker 2: to be the mother ship. But you compare this to
- 51:31Speaker 2: the one that is proposed for the Port Washington area
- 51:33Speaker 2: in Ozaki County, where the opposition is overwhelming. So to
- 51:39Speaker 2: say that nobody wants these data centers is not accurate.
- 51:42Speaker 2: Some people in some areas don't want them, and other
- 51:44Speaker 2: people in other areas don't seem to care at all.
- 51:50Speaker 2: I think that the difference is is that some locations
- 51:56Speaker 2: for these data centers are more appropriate than others. If
- 52:02Speaker 2: you put a data center on the edge of a
- 52:04Speaker 2: rather large metropolitan area and I we're scene is kind
- 52:08Speaker 2: of I mean, we're Sine's the city of nearly one
- 52:09Speaker 2: hundred thousand. It's a city, and it's a dense, in
- 52:13Speaker 2: urban type city. It doesn't have the population of Milwaukee.
- 52:16Speaker 2: A data center on an edge of a community like
- 52:18Speaker 2: this is going to create less trouble than a data
- 52:21Speaker 2: center in Usauki County, which is suburban and rather rural.
- 52:27Speaker 2: So where we put these things is going to be
- 52:29Speaker 2: critical in determining whether or not they're successful. I think
- 52:32Speaker 2: Milwaukee should be thinking outside the box with that whole
- 52:35Speaker 2: north Ridge area on the northwest side of Milwaukee, where
- 52:38Speaker 2: they can't come up with anything to do with all
- 52:39Speaker 2: of it. In it crime infested in so on, you
- 52:42Speaker 2: put some data centers in there. I mean, lord knows
- 52:44Speaker 2: is available land. You're close enough to freeways. You may
- 52:48Speaker 2: not have a lot of employees that are going to
- 52:49Speaker 2: want to work there, but the jobs are so well
- 52:53Speaker 2: paying the people are going to chase where they are anyway.
- 52:56Speaker 2: My point is is that the data centers, which are
- 52:59Speaker 2: vital to the development of AI, in many cases they're
- 53:04Speaker 2: getting opposition. And then the thing that the data centers
- 53:09Speaker 2: and ultimately AI all need is electricity, and they need
- 53:17Speaker 2: lots of it. That means not only more power plants,
- 53:22Speaker 2: it means they have we need a lot more power lines,
- 53:25Speaker 2: very high voltage lines to carry all of the power,
- 53:29Speaker 2: to carry all of the juice, all of the electricity
- 53:32Speaker 2: that is going for AI. And a lot of people
- 53:34Speaker 2: don't like that. Well, of course they don't like that.
- 53:39Speaker 2: So there's opposition now to AI. But here's the thing.
- 53:44Speaker 2: There is zero possibility that AI can be stopped none.
- 53:54Speaker 2: When a technological development occurs, it's impossible to put the
- 53:58Speaker 2: genie back in the bottom. Yet every time a transformative
- 54:04Speaker 2: new technology has broken through, they call it disruptive, and
- 54:08Speaker 2: AI is the ultimate disruptive. Will AI be as disruptive
- 54:13Speaker 2: as the Internet itself. No one knows yet it might
- 54:17Speaker 2: be more transformative. First part of my lifetime, the transformative
- 54:21Speaker 2: development was television. Television came around in the nineteen forties,
- 54:26Speaker 2: widespread in the nineteen fifties. Prior to TV, I don't
- 54:30Speaker 2: know what do people do. I hear they listen to
- 54:33Speaker 2: the radio, went to the movies, and otherwise just like
- 54:35Speaker 2: played and did things in read books. But my life's
- 54:37Speaker 2: experience there has always been television. It changed the focus
- 54:41Speaker 2: of people's lives. Television now has morphed into something else.
- 54:47Speaker 2: Before the Internet, this is one that I can certainly
- 54:49Speaker 2: relate to. First half of my life, there was no internet.
- 54:52Speaker 2: The second half of my life, the internet runs everything.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Remember when you went to a sporting event, you actually
- 54:58Speaker 2: got to carry a ticket. Some people still do that.
- 55:00Speaker 2: There are many you see newspapers dying, broadcast, television dying.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Radio is in trouble. Over the year, TV is in trouble.
- 55:11Speaker 2: Billions of things are in trouble. And you can object
- 55:15Speaker 2: to this, but the fact of the matter it is
- 55:17Speaker 2: it isn't going to change. Let's go to another disruptive technology.
- 55:23Speaker 2: How do you like to have been in the stagecoach
- 55:26Speaker 2: or bug buggy business when the car came in. Prior
- 55:31Speaker 2: to the automobile, you shipped things via train and people
- 55:35Speaker 2: got around by riding or being pulled by a horse.
- 55:38Speaker 2: That's it. And there were huge industries in this. Now
- 55:43Speaker 2: let's imagine you ran stage coaches. You don't like the
- 55:46Speaker 2: whole thing of this car coming in. The horse, I mean,
- 55:51Speaker 2: the buggy whip is the ultimate example of a massive,
- 55:55Speaker 2: widespread product that became almost extinct. The buggy is the
- 56:00Speaker 2: thing that the person driving the buggy would use to
- 56:02Speaker 2: make the horses go in the direction they're supposed to go.
- 56:08Speaker 2: They may not have liked it, but again, the genie
- 56:11Speaker 2: was out of the bottle. The car is here, whether
- 56:16Speaker 2: you think something in the long run is going to
- 56:18Speaker 2: be bad or not. When the technology is able to
- 56:23Speaker 2: make so many things easier than they were, there are
- 56:25Speaker 2: going to be people and companies that take advantage of it,
- 56:29Speaker 2: and you can't stop it. It's impossible. You perhaps can
- 56:34Speaker 2: stop some of the infrastructure from being near where you are.
- 56:40Speaker 2: Only I can create the following analogy, So therefore I'm
- 56:42Speaker 2: going to do it. We've done quite a few segments
- 56:46Speaker 2: over time over the controversy in Franklin, a community of
- 56:48Speaker 2: Milwaukee County over the Rock. The Rock is a sports
- 56:52Speaker 2: and entertainment complex in Franklin. Franklin's geographically a very big suburb.
- 56:57Speaker 2: Used to be mostly cornfields and now it's mostly subs
- 57:00Speaker 2: and it's been built out and built out and built out,
- 57:02Speaker 2: takes up the southern portion of Milwaukee County is essentially
- 57:06Speaker 2: just two cities. Franklin is southwestern and Oak Creek is southeastern.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Franklin just goes on and on and on. It's a
- 57:12Speaker 2: very big geographical community. The Rock is this entertainment complex.
- 57:17Speaker 2: It's here. They have baseball fields and sporting complex and
- 57:21Speaker 2: lots of stuff there. There's a semi pro baseball team
- 57:27Speaker 2: that plays out there. They have the concert facility, they
- 57:30Speaker 2: do haunted houses at Halloween, big, huge complex. If you
- 57:34Speaker 2: live in Franklin about two miles away from the Rock,
- 57:37Speaker 2: you love it because you've got, like the great you've
- 57:39Speaker 2: got an entertainment district close to your home. But if
- 57:43Speaker 2: you live a quarter of a mile from the Rock,
- 57:45Speaker 2: you hate the Rock because it's loud. Stuff goes out
- 57:48Speaker 2: at night here. You are moving out to the quiet
- 57:50Speaker 2: old suburbs and instead you've got commotion and noise and
- 57:53Speaker 2: everything else, and people hanging around all that stuff. You
- 57:57Speaker 2: don't want it. And the people who live nearest to
- 58:01Speaker 2: the Rock have been raising hell, claiming they're viola violating
- 58:04Speaker 2: the noise limits and so on. But in the most
- 58:07Speaker 2: recent elections, the people in charge of Franklin mostly all
- 58:10Speaker 2: got reelected despite the fact that they've like done everything
- 58:13Speaker 2: that the Rock has wanted to do. The same I
- 58:18Speaker 2: think is going to be true with regard to all
- 58:20Speaker 2: of the things that will happen with AI. You're not
- 58:22Speaker 2: going to be against the data centers if you don't
- 58:24Speaker 2: live anywhere near the data center. Now, some people think
- 58:27Speaker 2: the data centers are going to cause it increase in
- 58:29Speaker 2: electric rates. Well, they know what he's going to like
- 58:31Speaker 2: the data center. But we put a big high voltage
- 58:36Speaker 2: power lines. If you live under the power line or
- 58:39Speaker 2: somewhere near it, you don't like that. If it's nineteen
- 58:41Speaker 2: miles away from where you are, what do you care.
- 58:49Speaker 2: Regardless of whether or not people think AI will be
- 58:52Speaker 2: good or bad, and I think it's going to be
- 58:54Speaker 2: like the Internet. The Internet is neither good nor bad.
- 58:58Speaker 2: I think the amount of good that's come out of
- 59:00Speaker 2: the Internet is exactly equal to the number of bad
- 59:03Speaker 2: that has come out of it. The Internet has resulted
- 59:05Speaker 2: in poor an addiction, It is created perverts, It's allowed
- 59:09Speaker 2: the spread of all sorts of misinformation, a lot of
- 59:14Speaker 2: terrible things, and look at all the great things that
- 59:17Speaker 2: it's done. Streaming is killing cable television, is killing broadcast television,
- 59:25Speaker 2: is creating also infinite amount of programming for people to
- 59:28Speaker 2: be able to see good and bad. The same is
- 59:31Speaker 2: going to be true with regard to AI. We're going
- 59:33Speaker 2: to do a lot of things way more efficiently, and
- 59:36Speaker 2: we're going to have the ability to spend our resources
- 59:39Speaker 2: and know all sorts of things that we're not wasting
- 59:41Speaker 2: the money on now because AI is going to be
- 59:42Speaker 2: doing way faster and way better things that regular old
- 59:45Speaker 2: human beings could do. But in the process, AI itself
- 59:51Speaker 2: might develop the ability to think there are going to
- 59:53Speaker 2: be systems in place that humans aren't going to be
- 59:56Speaker 2: able to override. There are going to be jobs in
- 59:59Speaker 2: certain industries that are going to be wiped out, just
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: like in the Internet, just like with regardless streaming, just
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: like when the Hords and Buggy was wiped out by
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: the car. But my point is is that it can't
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: be It can't be stopped. So if you're an individual,
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: what you need to do is simply accept the fact
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: that AI is inevitable and strategize how you're going to
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: benefit from it rather than be harmed by it. So
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: these twenty two year old kids that are terrified to
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: death of AI, here's my guidance to them. AI is
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: like death. There isn't a damn thing you could do
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: to stop it. But before you get to death, you
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: can accomplish a whole lot of good and turn your
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: life into something. The same with AI. You can't stop it,
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: but maybe you can take advantage of it, and maybe
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: you can be the beneficiary of it. This brings me
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: to will I Am. Jason, You've gotten nothing correct today.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Do you know who will I Am is? Oh? I
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: should get Paul back just to do this segment, just
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: to let hear it. Will I Am was the leader
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: of the Black Eyed Peas. You know who the Black
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: Eyed Peas are? I hope will I Am was like
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: Fergie was the singer and will I Am was the guru,
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: and the Black Eyed Peas were like there's like three
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: hip hop groups that I loved and The Black Eyed
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: Peas are at the top of the list. I contend
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: they aren't really hip hop. They were, you know how
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: like there's certain country acts that are crossovers between country
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: and rock. I think the Black Eyed Peas were a
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: crossover between hip hop and rock and roll. And will
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: I Am was the genius behind it. He was the
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: guy that coordinated all of the music, did the production
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: and so on, and Fergie was the extremely talented front woman.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: Will I Am there's another story, I thought at the
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal. You know what will i Am is
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: doing now? He's teaching a university course, the courses in AI.
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: He's apparently not only knowledgeable in AI, he's extremely knowledgeable
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: on how people can get involved in the AI industry.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: The rapper and singer Will i Am has played hundreds
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: of shows and sold millions of records, but his latest
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: debut as a professor of a college class about artificial
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: intelligence gave him stage fright. In January, the Black Eyed
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: Peas frontman, whose given name is William Adams, began teaching
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: the Aegentic Self, a sixteen week course in which Arizona
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: State University students learned how to create their own AI
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: agents digital assistants that complete tasks on their own. Before
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: practice session, Adams and will I Am was seized by
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: doubt and retreated to a bathroom for forty minutes to
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: collect himself. Imagine this rock and roll hip hop superstar
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: scared to death to go talk to a bunch of
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: stupid college kids. Then he hit on a source of inspiration,
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: his band's two thousand and three song where Is the Love?
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: Each class, he realized, could, like the song, identify a problem,
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: discuss different approaches, and end with reflection. So the story
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: goes on. So one of the burgeoning things that's going
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: on in higher education is the number of coursework that's
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: out there on AI. I also think that the applications
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: in non academic areas, in the construction trades and so on, architecture.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: Who knows what AI is going to be able to
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: do rather than be threatened by it? And it is threatening,
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: But I just to say, so is death. What you're
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: going to have to do is embrace the whole process
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: of it. The alternative being scared to death by death
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: is to figure out how to make something of your
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: life before you do die. Column in The Wall Street
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Journal on Monday, written by Andy Kessler. It's not directly
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: on the point, but it relates a little bit to
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: our earlier topic. The headline is our Champagne Socialists. He's
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: dealing here with the number of young people that have
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: fallen for the most discredited economic idea in the history
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: of human beings, socialism. There are various economic theories out there,
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: but none of them are worse than socialism. This is
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: me now and not Kessler. Socialism is bucking up against
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: the basic of human life, which is incentivizing we do
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: things because we think that they are going to be
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: good for us, that we will like it. Why do
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: people work hard because they want to be successful. Why
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: do they want to be successful because they want to
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: make money? Why do they want to make money so
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: they can do the things of the money that they
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: want to do and live at the right house and
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: take the right trip and do the right thing. And
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: then once they have that money, they want to have
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: more money because they want to do more of it.
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: If the in setive to get all of those things
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: isn't there, because it's all taken away from you, nobody's
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: going to do anything. And this is where socialism always
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: results in societies that are stagnant, where nothing happens and
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: no one has any initiative. The socialistic promises to take
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: the bottom feeders of life and allow them to live
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: off of everybody else. But socialism in practice means that
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: there aren't any people left for anybody else to live
- 1:05:27Speaker 2: off of, because we've already took it all from them.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: Kessler rights, what's with the rash? The rash of socialists
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: inflaming our politics? Didn't socialism die in Berlin in nineteen
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: eighty nine, Yes, But awful ideas are eternal for the
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: power hungry. Much as Obamacare was meant as a gateway
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: drug to single payer health care, city run grocery stores
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: and free buses are a path to government run everything.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: America's youth are infatuated. Almost two thirds of those under
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: thirty have a favorable view of socialism. They are told
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: artificial intelligence will destroy jobs, they worry about never arriving
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: climate disasters, and are seduced by universal basic income aka
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: welfare for all. Oh and they hate the filthy inequality
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: schemes and unfathomable riches of the billionaires. But they sure
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: enjoy iPhones and Starbucks iced brown sugar oat, milk, shaken espresso,
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: young voters help elect oxymeronic democratic socialists. The effect has
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: been swift. In April, Seattle's socialist mayor Katie Wilson declared, quote,
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: I think the claims that millionaires are going to leave
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: our state are like super overblowed, and if the ones
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: that leave like buy Starbucks then announced the one hundred
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: million dollar expansion in Nashville, and former CEO Howard Schultz
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: moved to Florida as in like buy. New York Mayor
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: Zoron Mamdani seemingly ran out of money to fund collectivism
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: shortly into his term, saying, we are forced to raid
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: the Rainy Day Fund, the Retiree Health Benefit Trust reserves,
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: and to increase property taxes. Well half of personal income
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: taxes are paid by two percent of city dwellers. Florida
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: beckins finance firms like Citadel and Apollo are expanding elsewhere.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: A New York Post headline nailed it, we are zo
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: out of here. Los Angeles mayoral candidate Natiah Rahman, nicknamed
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: the Champagne Socialist, voted against keeping homeless encampments away from
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: schools and daycare centers, saying it's like whatever endearing. Add
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: a potential wealth tax and November's ballot and the exodus
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: in California accelerates. By the way, two trillion dollars of
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: income moved from blue states to red from twenty twelve
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three. It goes on to the point
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: that Kessler is making here is that in a country
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: of fifty states, the ones that don't become socialist are
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: going to retract all of the wealth that the socialists
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: want to redistribute. So the mayor of Seattle, if she
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: wants to be a socialist and take all this money
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: from all the super rich in Seattle, what's she going
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: to do when they're not in Seattle. This is another
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: way in which this whole socialism breaks down. If Wisconsin
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: elects a Marxist governor and a Democratic legislature, which is
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: very possible, if Francesco Hang wins the Democratic nomination and
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: the general election, we're going to see the same thing here. Immediately,
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: the taxes are going to be shot to the roof,
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: and immediately the wealthy people who have the ability to
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: leave will leave. So now you have to raise even
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: more taxes, and you have less money to support the
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: entire thing because people do leave when a nation embraces socialism.
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: The only alternative is for the wealth to leave the nation,
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: which is hard and it's painful, but it's not hard,
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: and it's not particularly painful to leave a state. Schultze
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: Round Starbucks is a lefty. He pulls a big chunk
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: of the company out of Seattle and he personally moves
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: to Florida. Was that hard for him? No, The only
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: problem with socialism is that it doesn't work. Other than that,
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: it's surefined, but it doesn't work. The reason that socialism
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: then leads to tyranny. And you're already seeing how violent
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: some of the socialists are in the United States, how
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: vicious they are. You see the people that cheer for
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: the death of the murder of a healthcare executive. What
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: happens is that when socialism starts coming into place and
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: it doesn't work, the socialists are curified that theay of
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: the socialists will be voted out by the public that
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: wants to go back the other way, So they embark
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: on a reign of purity to keep their power. There's
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: a reason why no communist country ever has free elections.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: The communists get in the socialists get in and the
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: next thing you know, there are no elections anymore because
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: they know that if there were free elections, they would
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: be voted out. As I said, the only problem with
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: socialism is and it doesn't work. This is the Mark
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: Belling Podcast. This is the last podcast before the Memorial
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: Day weekend. If you're listening to me here in Wisconsin,
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: starting out a little cool, supposed to be very nice.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: By the end of the weekend, do remember what Memorial
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: Day is and what it's for. My next podcast is
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: going to be released on Monday morning, Memorial Day morning,
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: and we'll spend at least a bit of time actually
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: remembering the purpose of Memorial Day. Talk to you soon.
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