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Know the Enemy: Old Dominion · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast with my partners
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  Brian Siegel and Jonathan Talley.
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  I am Curtis Wilson and this episode is brought to you by Dr.
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  Jeremy Counts at the Main Street Pharmacy Your friendly
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  neighborhood pharmacy located at 301 S Main St. in Blacksburg.
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  And boys, we have finally made it with Game Week.
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  Game week is here. How y'all feeling today tally?
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  It said start jumping. I mean, when it was coming on,
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  that's what I seen flash across the screen.
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  I see Jerry's already in there. Jerry says she's got questions
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  that she needs answers to. We all need them, Jerry.
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  We need them too. How y'all doing tonight?
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  We going to try to do that? That's right, Matt.
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  In this game we LFG baby. See.
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  How you doing tonight, man. Living the dream man I am, I got
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  a little Hardy wood fighting hokey HEPA vising over here.
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  It is a good night in the the RVA.
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  It's been a busy week already this week at work, so I'm just
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  happy to be able to kick it with you guys, talk a little football
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  and get ready for Saturday. Yeah, and we got a lot to go
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  through tonight. We'll get to some of the other
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  stuff in a little while here, but we're going to just start
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  off real quick with this. Last week, our buddy, you know
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  Grayson Wimbush on here talking about rowdy for Robbie.
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  We wanted to give y'all real quick where that's going to be
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  this week to go out there support such a great cause.
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  So on Saturday on game day it is going to be in Lot 1 spot 164.
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  That's the that is the lot near Castle Coliseum.
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  It's going to be there between 4:00 and 5:00 PM.
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  Now starting Friday it is going to be at our partners Main
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  Street pharmacy down there $7.00 a piece.
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  Now game day they're going to accept both cash and Venmo and
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  if you go to the pharmacy, if you're in town on Friday like we
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  will be in two weeks, me and Brian at least they will only do
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  Venmo so definitely go support it.
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  Great cause definitely you know something out there.
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  Clearly you heard the story about Robbie last week, a
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  massive Hokie fan who passed away a testicular cancer and now
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  trying to do some good more to bring more awareness to that
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  particular cancer. So every week we know it's going
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  to be a home game and we know that they're going to be there.
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  We're going to tell you where to go to support this cause so.
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  Yeah, we really appreciate Grace and jumping on with us last
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  week, You know #1, getting a chance to talk to you all about
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  Roddy for Robbie, but also bringing some great insight to
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  our our our season prediction episode last week.
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  Great episode all around. And just a big thanks to him for
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  joining us last week. But this week it's all about
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  game day, baby. It's all about Saturday, what's
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  going to happen Saturday and what we can expect.
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  So looking forward to doing that.
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  But Curtis, tell them what we're going to be doing first here.
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  Well, we're going to look at first.
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  Let's take a look at some of the Week 0 outcomes because I am
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  sure everyone at some point in time sat down for a few minutes
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  on Saturday to watch a little football.
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  And you know, even though these two teams aren't we, they aren't
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  on the schedule this year. One that will be every once in a
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  while watching Notre Dame. Absolutely.
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  Just mall, Navy. I don't think that shocked
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  anybody in USC. I'm going to tell you what what
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  I tell Jason, our wonderful music guy.
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  I I told him Friday night. Jason, you'll make any bets.
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  Now I'm like, dude, you need to make a bet.
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  What I tell him, Brian, I see Guarantee of the Week.
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  Yup. USC, San Jose State over 66 and
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  a. Half.
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  He didn't make the bet and I sent him the game.
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  I said hold you, USC doesn't. Play defense.
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  See Jason's got gunshot with bets now because every time he
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  bets it goes the opposite way of what he would actually desire it
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  to go. So I feel like, you know, he
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  feels like you put the a big kibosh on the.
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  The US Women's National Team soccer, I mean he's he's done
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  some folks dirty here the last few weeks and he's starting to
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  get a little gunshot. Yeah, but he is going to start a
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  go fund me just for his gambling habit is what he's telling us,
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  Jack. I see how that works out.
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  So he just. Got to put out more albums, man.
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  He put up more hours. He got to have all the money he
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  need. He good.
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  All right. Well, I got a question Tyler.
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  You've been you've been kind of roaming around the Twitter
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  space. Was there a game on Saturday
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  that somehow called everybody in Okie's attentions?
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  I. Oh yeah, You know, it was.
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  I mean, I don't even know how many people watched it.
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  I didn't. I didn't watch it.
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  I watched some of it, I saw a lot of the the highlights that
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  were posted out there and I think.
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  Once, once people saw the stat line dropped out there, it got
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  it caught a lot of people's attention.
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  Now that's what it was. Stat line and of course,
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  highlights. I mean, look like he had a great
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  game, look like Jason Brown, if people don't know what we're
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  talking about. Jackson State University's
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  quarterback now had a great game and he looked good from what I
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  seen. You know, I didn't watch the
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  game, but watching the highlights.
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  He looked great and I'm happy for him.
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  I mean, I want to see, I want to see everybody produce very
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  happy. If y'all didn't see they won 37,
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  seven. He went 25 for 59 or 25 for
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  29356, three touchdowns and you know and it and it just brought
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  up everybody rushing back to last year right when Grant will
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  beats him out. Jason Brown never got a shot.
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  You know, it was one of those wild things that you know,
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  obviously, right? It had to be the hokey going to
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  do it. You're going to transfer from
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  any other school and got to do that shit.
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  It had to be the guy who was a hokey last.
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  Year The one thing I'll say how I feel about.
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  I didn't mean to cut you off single, but what I how I feel
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  and I've seen a couple of arguments and things about it.
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  I never, you know, I feel like last season was as bad as it can
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  get. I know it's not, but as a hokey
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  fan, you know, winning three games is as bad as it can get
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  for us. I just wanted to see a change at
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  the quarterback position. Not for the rest of the season,
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  not for the whole game, just maybe a series.
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  I just wanted somebody to be like Okay Grant, you done threw
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  4 picks, man. Come sit down for a minute.
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  Let me let let's see what else we got.
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  That's I think that's what most people was thinking.
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  But all of the arguments have been, well, it wasn't no matter
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  who was the quarterback, he he would have lost anyway.
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  You know he was sorry we didn't have this.
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  We had we just wanted to see a change.
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  We just wanted to see what would have happened.
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  So I'm just putting that out there.
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  That's what I feel well. Yeah.
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  I'm kind of with that just because, I mean it would have
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  been worth seeing even if you don't pull pull wells as the
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  starters. Give Brown some series, let's
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  see what he can do. You know, we know he had
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  probably a little bit of extra wiggle, a little bit more size,
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  probably could have did a little bit more in the run game.
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  Would he be able to come along in the passing game against
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  Power Five competition? That's that's to be seen.
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  Obviously he had some experience down there at South Carolina
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  before he came in. So we know from a big game
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  pressure standpoint he could handle that aspect of it, right?
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  And that looks like the area that.
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  Wells was struggling with a lot last season, but I I just don't
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  know. Obviously in South Carolina he
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  was throwing to what I would consider true power five wide
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  receivers, whereas we had Caleb Smith and a few other guys that
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  weren't quite either were too young to contribute like that or
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  weren't. Weren't where they needed to be.
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  So I don't know, but I'm glad that the kid found a spot where
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  he can go and ball out and. I hope that.
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  I hope he does it all season, honestly.
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  There you go. I hope, I hope, I hope we see
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  how it lights up in miles season.
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  There you go. All right.
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  Couple other things to hit before we get into the big stuff
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  tonight is I want to just hit it real quick.
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  We have not mentioned it, but this talk of a CC expansion,
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  Stanford and Cal and SMU down in Texas, obviously it's going to
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  bring in a little bit more money, probably about 5 to $10
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  million extra a year, bring it on 13.
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  Bring it on. OK, you say.
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  Bring it on. So is it a longterm solution?
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  No, no, I don't think so. I think it's dead no matter
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  what, honestly, you know what I'm saying?
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  But if that's going to give to school, when you say 5 to 10
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  million, you said it like maybe 5 to 10 million, like 5 to 10
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  million is a lot of money. So if they don't come and play,
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  can I say something to go ahead just so you can go, shit, even
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  that extra 5 to 10 million, it's still $40 million.
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  I already looked at it. It's kind of like when you in
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  debt though, you know what I'm saying?
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  Like you in debt and you know that you got bills to pay, but
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  you find $500.00 on the ground. You like this money I didn't
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  have. It's casino time.
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  Let's see what we can turn this into.
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  Should I go play the house? No, no, no.
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  We're playing the mortgage. I was, I was it's it's a good
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  shortterm move. I mean it at least puts a little
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  Band-Aid on it, but I don't think it it changes whatever the
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  longterm plans are for Florida State and it doesn't really for
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  any help the ACC get competitive relative to the Big 10 and the
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  SEC. Now what it does do is that it
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  potentially in the shortterm keeps the ACC.
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  Neck in neck or just ahead of the Big 12 if if that's what
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  you're aiming for, you're you're accomplishing that.
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  You're not doing a whole lot else.
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  But The thing is is like, right now, too, you had so much
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  speculation about this person is going to be gone by this time,
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  this person going to be gone by this time or this school, this
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  school. Well, that's not happening.
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  You know what I'm saying? Like for now.
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  Nobody's gone. Nobody's, nobody's left.
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  Now it could happen next week, we don't know, but I'm just
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  saying as of now. So I think they're just trying
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  to put a You ever seen that? What's the commercial the guy
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  puts? He's got the like the tape
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  looking stuff and it's a leak coming out.
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  Oh yeah. When he slaps it on that flex
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  seal, he's. I think they're just trying to
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  flex seal it, you know what I'm saying?
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  It's not a longterm thing, but I mean, shit, let's do it.
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  I see this right here by Jim, and it'll keep Notre Dame
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  associated, but the second FSU in Clemson leaves all the
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  notoriety. The ACC is gone, but the second
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  they leave, it's going to be the it's the domino effect that
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  you've got the the true schools that care about football and
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  care about sports. We know who they are.
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  We've seen that they're going to be, we're looking for a way out.
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  That's it. They're going to be looking for
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  a way out. And as soon as the two big
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  dominoes fall, you're going to see where everybody else lands.
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  Again, stay competitive with the Big 12.
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  That's fine. But anybody else tired of Notre
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  Dame trying to flex their nuts? In the end, you know what?
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  Without fully. Screw them.
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  Screw them. You want us to add these schools
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  because you want to play them. Join the conference.
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  You know what should have happened.
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  I'm gonna go on a tangent. You know what should have
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  happened 2020 when they joined the conference?
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  We. Should have said fuck you,
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  that's it. We should have said, Nope, go
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  find your own conference this year because we got you on lot
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  for about the next six years. If you break that contract,
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  you're going to owe us about $300 million.
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  Yeah, because they didn't. They play.
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  Didn't they play for the ACC candidate?
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  They play for the A. CC title.
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  The commissioners of the ACC have not they deal did a strong
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  enough position. They have not strong armed
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  anybody into anything ever. They're just leaning on the
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  grant of rights to maintain their conference.
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  They they have not taken any sort of initiative to grow.
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  To take long term moves since really what 20/10/2011 we've
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  been, I saw somebody put it it is the most reactionary
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  conference in the country. Because when all the stuff was
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  breaking last year, if you want Cal and Stanford, that's fine.
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  Great educational institutions, big endowments, great Olympic
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  sports, but you should have been looking at them and you should
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  have been looking at tools north of them in Washington and Oregon
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  who have football tradition, who have a very strong.
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  Sports program even even right now.
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  I mean, I ain't saying we got to grab all of them, but I mean the
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  other two schools, they're still in the where they pack for right
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  now. Whatever.
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  They're talking better TV ratings.
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  I mean, I think they are better football programs right now, you
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  know, So why not? Stanford pulls good money, but
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  Caledon pull shit cows, the cows, the Briles.
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  SMU has money, but SMU don't pull shit.
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  They don't push. They don't pull shit in ratings,
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  pal. They both just like the drunk
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  friends who's tagging along when you covering the bar tab for the
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  night is what it is. That's what they are.
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  All right, let's go to this one last piece.
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  I don't know if y'all saw this. I know I sent the article, but
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  we busy. We got lives touché Thanks Will
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  for that. But if y'all notice that the Big
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  10 this year is going to be instituting game day player
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  availability 2 hours before the game.
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  Basically they've got to say who's in and who's out.
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  Y'all like that. If this was let's say this is
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  the Hokies, would you like to know two hours before the game
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  who's playing, Who's not playing?
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  I mean, as a fan you do, you know, But as far as like giving
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  your team a edge, it ain't going to fucking matter.
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  It's either you prepared all week to just go play.
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  You know, two hours ain't going to help you.
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  You got to go be ready for whoever trots out there, you
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  know what I'm saying? And then in our case, like we
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  would go play teams in the past and it would be that fucking
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  backup quarterback that would come in and rush for 290 yards,
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  you know what I'm saying? So it's like it ain't a huge
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  deal, but I understand it. Yeah, I mean.
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  We've ended up, we've ended up getting completely torched by
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  backup quarterbacks that we didn't know we're going to play
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  a snap. So I don't, I don't know if this
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  is helping or hurting from that standpoint.
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  I think it's a fan. It's nice, it's nice to know,
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  right? I don't have to like, troll, you
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  know, bitters or David Cunningham's Twitter feed just
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  to see who's on the field warming up and not.
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  Well, I think the, I think the main thing is like kind of
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  you're starting treating the college athlete like a a pro
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  athlete. You know, it's like you're
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  buying tickets and then you've got NIL stuff.
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  So you may just be coming for whoever you're supporting in
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  NIL. So as a fan, if you know, you
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  know they're not playing, that may make a difference in
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  something that you're doing. You know what I'm saying?
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  Whether you're supporting this this week or you're not, maybe.
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  I don't know. I guess that's the only way I
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  look at it. I I like it.
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  Again, I I look at it from a fan perspective because what you
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  just said Brian all three of us are on will be on here Saturday
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  night. Brian's going to be over at the
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  house. We're going to probably be
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  texting back and forth with you Tally.
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  We will be looking at Bitter and whoever's at the game who's out
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  there. You know, we heard Gallows
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  questionable. He.
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  Is he out there warming up? We heard so and so ain't
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  playing. Is he even out there even trying
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  to stretch? Is he going to play next week?
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  That's what you look for for as a fan because there are
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  sometimes there's been so, so much secretive stuff, you know
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  And then on the other team it's the same way you always y'all
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  joking about backup quarterbacks torching us.
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  But I tell you what, when we get to play in some of the bigger
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  teams, if you tell me, we play FSU and hey, Jordan Travis ain't
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  playing tonight. Good, good.
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  I'm glad he ain't playing. All right.
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  Well, as y'all know, we usually have a breakdown segment every
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  week that we call Know the Enemy that's going to return next
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  week. This week we're going to do a
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  little something different because of how drastic the
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  turnover is of our team. We going to do a little know
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  yourself. You got to know yourself before
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  you go out there and start knowing everybody else.
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  And we're going to do this position by position, group by
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  group. I want to discuss what we us
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  3:00. We we we got together, we wrote
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  a bunch of stuff down what we have to see Saturday night in
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  Lane Stadium to make us feel better about this season.
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  Now I'll also say this another reason was because we have been
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  attempting to find stuff on ODU for the last three weeks.
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  Other than I know Grant Wilson's the quarterback, no relation.
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  They had like 56 new players so they look very different.
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  I think one of the defensive backs and one of the edge guys
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  from last year still there, like 1 white out, like Watson left.
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  Obviously Allie Jennings left. They don't have a lot out there
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  to begin with. So y'all ready break you up.
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  Get yourself ready Taly, break it up.
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  We got to do it. Just old man, let's start.
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  You old. Uh, huh.
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  That's the best part here. I feel you never say you old in
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  this group. Curtis Curtis is officially the
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  Four Zero man. He's holding it down.
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  The Big Four. Oh, my brother just turned.
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  No, he didn't turn. He turns 50 September the 5th.
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  We went to his house for a big birthday bash last weekend and
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  he will be spending his birthday.
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  He's already there in Africa. Wow.
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  He's yeah, he's gone already. He's 50.
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  Yeah, he just he's how? I don't know.
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  He's been sending me pictures and stuff.
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  So I got to go check and see all of his stuff.
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  I had to download an app just so I can talk to him, but I mean,
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  he traveled by himself. He doesn't have kids, not
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  married. So he was just like, hey, I
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  forgot to tell you I'm going to Africa for my birthday.
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  I was like, okay man. Have have a good time.
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  If I'll hear from you in a couple of weeks, I'm going to
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  come looking for you. You know what I'm saying?
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  So, yeah, but anyway, so so we're going to start.
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  People had to go grab a drink. Y'all, he'll be back in 30
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  seconds. So we're going to start
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  offensive side. Obviously we got to start
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  offense. Y'all, we're here to hear us
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  talk about defense and we're going to start at the
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  quarterback room and the quarterback room.
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  It's two guys. We're going to talk about them
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  both. First let's talk about Grant
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  Wells. Tally, you brought up the strong
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  point. What's the one thing you got to
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  see Saturday night from Grant Wells?
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  I mean, if you've been hired under a rock.
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  You know Grant Wells is was announced to starter.
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  So we are work. We are running with Grant at
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  starter starting quarterback on Saturday and the first thing I
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  will say is no avoidable turnovers.
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  I I don't want to sound like I hate it and deep dive into what
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  his whole career has been but I'm just saying it's football.
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  You're going to get some turnovers.
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  But the big word is. Avoidable turnovers we don't
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  want. You can't be trying to fit stuff
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  where it's not going to fit. Take the layups, man.
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  Take the layups you know don't be trying to fit the ball with
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  because this is an inferior opponent.
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  I hate to tell you, anybody who wants to argue with me, argue
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  with your Mama. This is an inferior opponent.
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  Use your play makers that you they went out and got hand the
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  ball to who you need to hand the ball to throw the ball away.
• 20:42
  When you need to throw the ball away, make the make the pass
• 20:46
  when you need to make the pass. No avoidable turnovers.
• 20:49
  That's what I'll be looking for. Yeah.
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  And my my hope is that having those weapons around him will
• 20:57
  help some of that because when we look at last year, there was
• 21:02
  probably a lot of prep with with the running game, not not doing
• 21:05
  great receivers, not getting a ton of of separation on on a
• 21:10
  regular basis, Grant Will probably figured.
• 21:13
  I'm going to have to take some risk here if we're going to move
• 21:15
  the ball right. I'm hoping that with a better
• 21:19
  cast of characters around him that he takes fewer of those
• 21:23
  risk, and the ones that he do he does take are more calculated
• 21:28
  risk and not just I got to make a play right?
• 21:33
  If if we can get to that point, I feel like that will you know
• 21:37
  at least you know. Let's at least get to to a 2 to
• 21:40
  one ratio like if we can get. At least there then we working
• 21:44
  with something. I ain't saying we gotta go 3 to
• 21:46
  1, go out there and two, light it up to two to one. 2.
• 21:51
  To 1/2 to one will put us in probably a.
• 21:55
  What a what a shit ton of games last year 2 to.
• 21:58
  One. Yeah, if he was 18 and 9 and not
• 22:01
  9:00 and 9:00 last year. That that That's a big
• 22:04
  difference last year. 63 more points.
• 22:07
  So, so if we get there, then you're you're working with
• 22:09
  something and and I want to piggyback on that because we
• 22:14
  talked about avoidable turnovers.
• 22:15
  We also got to talk about the other part of it, which is the
• 22:17
  domino defeats is what I call it when one thing goes wrong and
• 22:22
  that leads to something else going wrong and that leads to
• 22:25
  something else going wrong. We had that a lot last year.
• 22:28
  It happened with Grant. A lot it wasn't.
• 22:30
  Explicitly a Grant problem, but Grant was definitely someone
• 22:34
  that had those moments where one wrong move would lead to another
• 22:38
  would lead to another, and all of a sudden a game that you had
• 22:41
  to lead in, you lost the lead in a game that you were close in
• 22:44
  now was a blowout. So if if we can be more mentally
• 22:49
  tough and play the next play and not let what happened last time
• 22:55
  effect was going on this time. And play within the scheme of
• 22:58
  the offense. We're going to be a lot better.
• 23:01
  If I could just go ahead, Curtis.
• 23:03
  Well, for me, you know, just like you said, like the domino
• 23:06
  defeats, like everybody that plays sports, period.
• 23:10
  No matter what sport it is, be water polo, like everybody's got
• 23:14
  a plan until you get hit in the mouth.
• 23:16
  Either that's a physical hit in the mouth or, you know what I'm
• 23:19
  saying, a mental hit in the mouth.
• 23:21
  Everybody has a plan. I just want to see the grant
• 23:24
  that was in the spring game, you know, to talk about how good of
• 23:29
  a practice player he is and him going out there and he's
• 23:32
  progressed and things like that. And I believe, you know, he's
• 23:35
  got better. But I want to see the command he
• 23:38
  had in the spring game. One play that stands out in my
• 23:42
  mind if he was live when he scores maybe like was it the
• 23:46
  first touchdown, maybe the second touchdown where he pulls
• 23:49
  the ball and goes straight up the middle and you got those two
• 23:52
  defenders, the virgin on him like in a game he would have got
• 23:56
  hit. You know what I'm saying?
• 23:58
  Do you hold on to that ball? Do you make one of them miss?
• 24:01
  Do you die for it? Like that's what I need to see.
• 24:04
  Are you going to make those winning plays and and have that
• 24:08
  confidence when you get hit in the mouth?
• 24:11
  That's what I want to see from to see if he going to lead the
• 24:13
  team. You know what I'm saying?
• 24:14
  I agree. With that 100%, I'm going to go
• 24:16
  back piggy what? Siegler says.
• 24:18
  Where I make my point here. He seems like he is a guy that
• 24:21
  occasionally he gets in his own head.
• 24:24
  He gets in his own, you can see it.
• 24:25
  There's times last year where he was, you know, he had threaded a
• 24:28
  couple times and he gets picked and then either there was a
• 24:31
  hesitation or he would make the same throw again and it wouldn't
• 24:35
  be good. And that's, you know, that's
• 24:38
  something that I think you get to a certain point in your life.
• 24:43
  That's just you are what you are now.
• 24:45
  Can some people overcome it? Yes.
• 24:48
  Is he one? I hope so.
• 24:50
  Now before I make my point here, I'm going to make a real quick
• 24:52
  point because a couple folks have already thrown in the chat,
• 24:54
  do put in your game predictions. We're going to be making hours
• 24:57
  at the end of the segment in a while here because it is going
• 25:00
  to be a while. But definitely put it in.
• 25:02
  Somebody's already put one out there.
• 25:03
  Thank you, low country. We will pop that up later.
• 25:05
  But here's my thing. I'm looking more for schematic
• 25:10
  things and one of the big schematics are this year we are
• 25:14
  going to the true RPO. We're not looking at power runs.
• 25:19
  We're not looking at potentially being Wisconsin.
• 25:21
  You let Tyler Bowen take what's his and make it.
• 25:24
  And what I need to see is there are going to be times he needs
• 25:29
  to pull the ball and run on those RPO's.
• 25:32
  I don't care if you get 2 yards. I don't care if you get 10.
• 25:35
  I don't care if you break a 30 yarder.
• 25:37
  I don't care if you get stopped at the line of scrimmage
• 25:39
  because. No, we got to keep him honest.
• 25:43
  And the way this offense works is if that linebacker and no
• 25:47
  safety start moving on those RPO's, whether you're going to
• 25:49
  run it or not, lanes open easier, throws are made.
• 25:54
  He's got to do it. And if he's not doing it, Tyler
• 25:57
  Bone, who's going to be up in the booth, better walk down,
• 26:00
  take this thing and slap on his head, run the ball occasionally,
• 26:04
  run the ball occasionally. They are spitting you and
• 26:07
  they're taking your lane down. He can call down and say, hey,
• 26:10
  you know that other guy that's over there on the bench, tell
• 26:12
  him to go run. Well, let's talk about the other
• 26:14
  guy. What?
• 26:15
  What? What Y'all think about what?
• 26:16
  What do y'all feel like? We need to see some from Kyron
• 26:19
  over the next. This week, I mean, I feel like,
• 26:24
  you know the fact that Prize said he's going to get play
• 26:27
  every week, he didn't just say he's going to have some
• 26:31
  packages, he's going to see some time.
• 26:33
  He said he is going to see time every week.
• 26:36
  So I'm not sure if we're we're getting a full.
• 26:40
  You know, redux of, you know, 2007 here or if it's going to be
• 26:46
  mix and match. I don't, I don't know what it's
• 26:48
  going to be. The thing for me is that when
• 26:53
  you put drones in the game, it can't be predictable.
• 26:57
  You're you're going to have selected plays for him.
• 27:00
  Obviously a smaller playbook, but it can't be a predictable
• 27:03
  smaller playbook you're going to want to give him.
• 27:07
  A handful of run plays he's good with and a handful of pass plays
• 27:11
  he's good with and his first play out there needs to be a
• 27:15
  pass because of his first play on the field is a pass that
• 27:19
  everybody will be thinking all right, just cuz he's out here
• 27:22
  and ain't a run. You got to be prepared for
• 27:25
  everything now. And even if he doesn't run, even
• 27:27
  if it's not a pass, I agree with you think a pass would be great
• 27:31
  if he turns around, turns the ball around and and hands it to
• 27:35
  one of your running backs and they get 4 to 5 yards.
• 27:37
  You know, just a normal running play.
• 27:40
  You just can't be predictable. You can't have him.
• 27:44
  You can't be going out there. But we lost Tally for a second
• 27:50
  there. While we get him back on real
• 27:53
  quick, something we've been discussing is basically find his
• 27:57
  10 best plays. Running or pass.
• 28:00
  We lost you there for a second tally.
• 28:01
  Yeah, I've seen that. So I'll let you, I'll let you
• 28:05
  come back in what you were going to finish up saying, but find
• 28:07
  those 10 best plays running and pass because it can't be all pat
• 28:11
  run and it can't be all pass. So mix those in, give him those
• 28:15
  series and and when I say that, that's a lot more of, it's going
• 28:20
  to be more passes because you're going to have plays that are
• 28:23
  strictly for the running backs. Kelly, what were you saying?
• 28:27
  I mean, that kind of sums it up what you say.
• 28:29
  Give him, give him 10 best plays, you know, not just a
• 28:32
  predictable one play, not just two plays.
• 28:35
  Like he's got to have some plays that are going to get the
• 28:39
  they're going to get the defense off kilter, you know what I'm
• 28:41
  saying? Like we got it.
• 28:42
  We got to be able to put him in to be like a change of pace
• 28:45
  back. You know, it's got to be
• 28:47
  something that just changes that offense up just a little bit to
• 28:50
  give the defense something different to look at.
• 28:52
  Now can I say this if it's third and 1 1/2?
• 28:57
  Occasionally you put him on that field and just let him plow his
• 29:00
  6 foot, three turn and 35 pound frame forward and get the first
• 29:04
  down. I can be predictable.
• 29:06
  I can be predictable. We saw that with the Eagles last
• 29:08
  year and how they perfected that.
• 29:10
  Sneak on like what 3rd and 4th and two they get 3 yards.
• 29:14
  If you're getting decent push and you got a quarterback that
• 29:17
  that size that can get low and push the pile, predictables are
• 29:22
  because it's effective. The problem is is when you're
• 29:24
  predictable on first or second down with your with your second
• 29:27
  quarterback in the game and they know all right well it's it's
• 29:31
  first down they put in this quarterback expect quarterback
• 29:34
  power like we we can't get to that point if if they if they
• 29:38
  know what to expect every time drones walks in the game then
• 29:41
  that that's going to be a problem.
• 29:44
  That's what we need to avoid if we can avoid that, I think.
• 29:47
  The two quarterbacks set up here could work.
• 29:49
  For us could work. I've been watching Swamp Kings
• 29:52
  on Netflix, so they two quarterback system was working
• 29:56
  pretty good. Maybe we can take a, Maybe we
• 29:58
  can take. A.
• 30:03
  We lost you again there. But yeah, although the Chris
• 30:08
  Leak does not get the respect he deserves in circles, so.
• 30:14
  We're going to move over to the wide receiver tight in room.
• 30:17
  I put those together because that is the skill positions to
• 30:20
  me and after what we heard from coach today with Nick Gallo
• 30:25
  seemingly questionable for this game, potentially questionable
• 30:28
  for multiple games, I think Benji Goes now has got to be the
• 30:31
  go do it all tight in. Although Daquan White look like
• 30:34
  maybe he gained some some weight and some muscle, showing up at
• 30:39
  about £250. But we've seen Benji again, I
• 30:43
  think in the spring and not in the spring game, but of his
• 30:46
  build, he's that guy can go in there, play in line, play H,
• 30:50
  probably flex out. So that's a big piece for me
• 30:53
  because they did name them. Looking at the depth chart over
• 30:56
  here, it's Benji or Dequan is the second time in behind Nick.
• 31:02
  I think Saturday night they're going to be basically one and
• 31:07
  twos. Yeah, I mean I think you know
• 31:12
  you're seeing, I think when we look at the depth chart here and
• 31:15
  you got Benji above Daquan. I think the thing there is that
• 31:18
  Benji is definitely the more all around tight end, right,
• 31:24
  probably more in line with what we expect from Gala, whereas
• 31:29
  right is definitely more of a joker type tight end do it all.
• 31:35
  So you'll probably see him in. Different packages that you may
• 31:41
  see Benji in Benji would probably be in every, you know,
• 31:46
  11 tight end set, whereas you know right might not be on the
• 31:51
  field if it's just a an inline tight end, single tight, tight
• 31:56
  formation. So that's probably the
• 31:59
  difference there. Yeah, go ahead.
• 32:00
  Tell me what you got. Another thing that we got to
• 32:02
  think about is right. You know, being.
• 32:04
  I don't think he's 100%, you know, I think he's been a little
• 32:08
  nicked up. You know, he didn't play in the
• 32:10
  in the spring game and then I think they said he had some kind
• 32:13
  of little issue during fall camp.
• 32:15
  So we don't know exactly where he's at as far as health goes.
• 32:20
  So I think that's going to be something else to to monitor too
• 32:23
  because it's football man. You going to get injuries?
• 32:25
  You know, so how? Do you play through it?
• 32:28
  How do you play through it? What's that?
• 32:30
  What's the next man going to do when he steps up and has to has
• 32:33
  to go? Absolutely single.
• 32:35
  What do you got for this room? The big thing I've got, the
• 32:40
  thing that we struggled with all of last year.
• 32:43
  I need Daquan, right? I need Feldon.
• 32:46
  I need Lane. I need them to feast on those
• 32:50
  intermediate routes. We were awful in that area all
• 32:54
  of last year. If it wasn't deep and down the
• 32:57
  sideline or short right right in front of the line of scrimmage,
• 33:01
  we weren't really doing a whole lot with it.
• 33:04
  We need to take advantage of that area of the field because
• 33:07
  that is what moves the sticks and sustained drives.
• 33:10
  If we're struggling with that against ODU, I'm going to be
• 33:13
  worried going forward. Yeah, definitely.
• 33:17
  I mean pretty much the segue until the next point that we
• 33:22
  have kind of stand on that piggybacking on it.
• 33:24
  But going to the next point, it's the yards have to carry as
• 33:27
  well, but the yards have to catch.
• 33:29
  It's like all of the people that you're naming, like I seen
• 33:32
  Felton catch one in the spring game and get hit.
• 33:36
  I mean a lick, lay it on him, but he fell forward for like 3
• 33:39
  yards. So that's better than falling
• 33:43
  back with three yards, you know what I'm saying?
• 33:45
  It may not show up much on the stat sheet, but if you can catch
• 33:48
  a 5 yard out and you fall forward 3 yards and that's eight
• 33:52
  yards, you know what I'm saying? So that's you know, second and
• 33:56
  two third and two instead of second and five, you know, so
• 34:01
  things like that second. And two, opens up that play
• 34:02
  action. So I mean, there's a.
• 34:04
  Whole lot you can do with second and two, there's a whole lot you
• 34:06
  can do give that third and short versus that third and medium so.
• 34:11
  But it's but it's also and this will go back to both the
• 34:13
  quarterbacks though it's it's getting people comfortable.
• 34:16
  A little short 3 yard slant or a little, you know, 5 yard dig and
• 34:20
  you can hit it a couple times. You feel good, right?
• 34:23
  You. Feel better?
• 34:24
  You have some confidence you can throw.
• 34:26
  You make a good, you make a good out pattern.
• 34:30
  Make a good out pattern and he it's 6 yards and and he breaks
• 34:34
  the tackle and he's up. The next thing to know it's like
• 34:38
  he's going to sit hard on that route.
• 34:40
  He's going to sit hard on that route.
• 34:42
  So maybe Tyler throws up. What I've got to talk about is I
• 34:44
  want to see what the route concepts look like because I
• 34:46
  think they are going to look different this year than they
• 34:49
  did last year. I think we have.
• 34:52
  I think we have two really skilled guys with Jennings and
• 34:56
  Lane. I think Jennings can do the
• 34:58
  whole tree. I think Jennings is going to be
• 35:00
  all over the place. We know Lane on the slot and and
• 35:03
  then we talk about the growth of Stephen Gosnell.
• 35:06
  Stephen Gosnell looked solid running routes last year.
• 35:09
  He did. He didn't look bad running
• 35:10
  routes, but The thing is he wasn't there as a player yet.
• 35:15
  I mean he'll he'll white wire receiver they that's what they
• 35:18
  good at. But he won't.
• 35:20
  Barely. He's gonna have the routes down.
• 35:22
  Come on now. But even in the like if you go
• 35:24
  back and look at him in the spring game and you watch his
• 35:27
  routes that he ran it's pretty clear and he he was doing it
• 35:33
  like I'm watching him even on some passes that he didn't catch
• 35:36
  and I'm like hold on that defense like you you looking he
• 35:40
  put some people on some skates man like so you know he he
• 35:44
  definitely I think the route concept is going to be different
• 35:46
  this year which we need it you know what I'm saying Like you
• 35:49
  can't just run it. You can't just run a go route.
• 35:52
  You got you got to have some stuff different and it all ties
• 35:55
  into what we're saying. When you talk about intermediate
• 35:58
  pass game, you talk about you are set at the after the catch.
• 36:01
  When you talk about hitting, laying on a bubble screen
• 36:03
  hitting laying on the slant, go watch him.
• 36:05
  Against Miami last year, a lot of the plays that he made was
• 36:10
  him making the play, making one man miss and then beating
• 36:14
  everybody else to green to you know green grass.
• 36:17
  So that's what we need to see. That's what's going to take us
• 36:22
  to beating these teams that we're supposed to beat and and
• 36:27
  by a lot of points and hanging in there with some teams and
• 36:30
  beating them at the end of the game. 100%, All right, I'm going
• 36:35
  to flip this up here. Good question from one of our
• 36:39
  watchers tonight, Ellis Savage, because we're going to talk to
• 36:42
  Brother Savage, Ellis Savage, Ellis, how you go on that?
• 36:47
  Curtis Ellis, it's I watch BSBS high as well.
• 36:51
  I don't think it's on Netflix though.
• 36:53
  I think it's on. I think it's on.
• 36:55
  Max, if I ain't mistaken and if y'all hadn't watched that, you
• 36:59
  need to go watch it. It's about that Bishop Sycamore
• 37:01
  stuff. Man, that stuff is fucking nuts,
• 37:06
  man. Like, I'm talking crazy.
• 37:08
  Like I can't even believe some of the stuff I'll say.
• 37:11
  But anyway, go ahead, Curtis. First of all, I ain't got time.
• 37:14
  I got like 6 shows in the can. I'm still catching up on.
• 37:18
  And yes, he agreed it is HBO. Max is bad, but let's talk about
• 37:23
  We got to talk about the running backroom in general.
• 37:25
  But if y'all saw today with the kick return, both Tooten and
• 37:30
  Thomas are one of the two of the three four kick returns.
• 37:35
  Ellis. Not a fan of that, clearly.
• 37:37
  Y'all neither tally tally your Aunt Tigler.
• 37:43
  You know, I'm not a big fan of it either.
• 37:46
  I would prefer. So we got two.
• 37:48
  Then Thomas, if you said one of those was the kick returner
• 37:51
  paired with somebody else as the two maybe Thomas, let's say I'd
• 37:55
  feel a little bit better. I don't like that that both of
• 37:58
  them are potentially out there as the kick returner.
• 38:02
  That gives me a little bit of pause, but as far as especially
• 38:07
  up to see in Thomas's health history.
• 38:11
  Yeah, you know, just keeping it real.
• 38:13
  Too was nicked in the spring game he had a little nick to.
• 38:16
  Start a camp. So I mean both of them have not
• 38:19
  been obviously Thomas has had, you know, historical health
• 38:22
  problems you know too not so much, but has been nicked in the
• 38:26
  time that we've known him as a hokey.
• 38:29
  So it definitely gives you a little bit of pause to say, all
• 38:32
  right, we got both started running backs, one with injury
• 38:34
  history. We'll be doing here at the same
• 38:38
  time. You want your two best back
• 38:40
  there. If these are the two best, then
• 38:44
  you. Know can we just put one at a
• 38:45
  time though, so there's no chance both of them get hurt on
• 38:48
  the same leg. That's all I had.
• 38:49
  I won't need nothing neither, whatever you hurt at all, I.
• 38:51
  Won't need one of them get hurt, but I don't need both of them
• 38:53
  getting hurt at the same time, so just really take two running
• 38:56
  backs. But let's also say this a lot of
• 38:58
  times with kick return, they'll throw, they'll throw a depth
• 39:01
  chart out there and then when you actually look at this.
• 39:03
  It's like this. It's not the same.
• 39:05
  Well, another thing with me that kind of threw me off is because
• 39:08
  I feel like this year we actually have some pieces that
• 39:12
  can be back there. Besides, you're starting running
• 39:16
  back, you know what I'm saying? That's.
• 39:17
  True, whether you talk about Cole BIC like what is he going
• 39:22
  to do with the didn't. Bryce.
• 39:23
  Duke, have one last year. Bryce, you know we got a.
• 39:26
  Big return last year he didn't have.
• 39:28
  He didn't take it for the house, but he got Jalen, Like you got a
• 39:31
  lot of people who we can, I feel put back there and just see what
• 39:36
  you're going to see, what we get.
• 39:37
  Yeah, Champ. Champs Black was in that spot
• 39:39
  last year. A lot too.
• 39:40
  So I mean, and I I kind of agree with what Curtis is saying.
• 39:44
  I don't think we see like you put a depth chart out there, but
• 39:48
  who knows whose trots out there? Hell, you know what I'm saying?
• 39:51
  That's just, that's just to make, you know what?
• 39:54
  They got us talking about it, right?
• 39:56
  They got Andy and David and Bitter, I mean, and Barber and
• 40:02
  everybody's tweeting about it. We're talking about it.
• 40:04
  Fine, but let's get to the running back room in general.
• 40:06
  Mr. Sigla, what are you got two on here up front.
• 40:09
  What are the two things you've got to see Saturday night from
• 40:12
  the running back room? First thing I need to see get to
• 40:17
  and involved in the passing game early.
• 40:20
  We we saw with looking at the tape from NCA&T like what what
• 40:25
  he can do. I'm excited to see that in a
• 40:29
  hokey jersey. So get him involved in the past
• 40:32
  game early, get him in space, let him make a couple guys miss.
• 40:36
  He's got good size, he's elusive.
• 40:38
  He can, he's got some breakaway speed.
• 40:40
  I just want to see this guy get the ball in space, especially
• 40:43
  when we're still, you know, we we want to establish the run
• 40:46
  game early, but we also want to be able to generate yards
• 40:48
  without having to run between the tackles all the time.
• 40:51
  Getting the ball to your running back in space at the line of
• 40:54
  scrimmage can kind of give him an opportunity to to get some
• 40:58
  yards. Without having to, you know,
• 41:01
  stick their neck in there with those big defensive tackles and
• 41:03
  linebackers, Yeah, I mean I get, I get you on that.
• 41:09
  And I think the thing about the tuning in the passing game too,
• 41:13
  again, and and I look forward, it's going to be chances where
• 41:17
  if you're running a little RPO where it's like a flare, that
• 41:21
  linebacker is going to void, right?
• 41:22
  Because he's going to go with tuning and it's there's going to
• 41:24
  be gaps. There's going to be gaps up the
• 41:26
  middle. Again, Grant's got to pull it
• 41:28
  and just say, you know what, that's four yards right there.
• 41:30
  The safety's going to come crash me.
• 41:32
  I'm going to get hit, but I'm going to go it's second and six.
• 41:35
  Now we're third and two, right? Right.
• 41:38
  There's going to be things like that.
• 41:41
  Now another piece I'm looking for is we know two and Thomas
• 41:46
  are wanting to two, clearly to one and then clearly the two in
• 41:52
  more of a 1-2 punch. As coach was saying today, I
• 41:55
  want to see what happens after that.
• 41:58
  I want to see because we know Coney's out coach.
• 42:02
  Coach Price said that today in the press.
• 42:04
  So we will not see him. He's been talking him up, but
• 42:07
  it's black and Duke and the reason I say we've got to see
• 42:12
  who's the Next up, who do the coaching staff have faith in,
• 42:15
  Because now I'm thinking six months down the road who might
• 42:18
  be in the portal. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 42:23
  Like you said, it's like. You got Black and Duke in that
• 42:26
  room. We've seen them make some plays
• 42:29
  on the field in games. What are we going to see?
• 42:35
  You know what? What?
• 42:36
  Who's going to be in? Who's going to get some burn?
• 42:39
  How many points are we going to score so we can see some of the
• 42:41
  second team people. You know what I'm saying?
• 42:44
  Like in games, like what we should see this weekend, we
• 42:49
  should go out and thrash this team.
• 42:51
  So we can put the second team in so people can see, and it might
• 42:55
  cause some controversy if everybody goes out and plays
• 42:57
  great. That's what we want everybody to
• 42:58
  do. But you know, do we get to see
• 43:01
  drones play a lot of steps? Do we get to see, you know,
• 43:05
  Bryce Duke get in and score a touchdown?
• 43:07
  You know, I don't know. But it all comes down to how
• 43:10
  much we're going to score to see how much playing time those
• 43:14
  backups get. Can I make a point?
• 43:15
  And we keep talking about it over and over in game.
• 43:18
  We need to do this to get them in game reps because as as
• 43:22
  you've said before, Italian Sigler, you said it to me plenty
• 43:25
  of times. Some guys are good in practice
• 43:29
  and sometimes guys are okay and then the lights turn on.
• 43:32
  Some guys, when the lights turn on, guys are great.
• 43:35
  And the guys who's good in practice, he actually ain't that
• 43:38
  good because the moments are too big.
• 43:40
  Well, also let's talk about if we're talking about drones too,
• 43:42
  in this case with the running game, that's somebody that
• 43:46
  doesn't really get to be hit in practice.
• 43:50
  So just being able to show what he can do in the running game in
• 43:52
  a live game is going to show a different degree of his
• 43:57
  playmaking ability that he's not really able to show in practice.
• 44:00
  So outside of what he was able to do with Baylor and things
• 44:03
  like that, we haven't seen what those tools look like live, and
• 44:08
  the coaches haven't seen a ton of it either.
• 44:09
  So you know, maybe that's a difference maker in terms of how
• 44:14
  how we start the season versus how we end the season for on
• 44:16
  that front. So that's just something else to
• 44:19
  watch in the running game. I know we're talking about
• 44:21
  running backs right now just but but since we kind of very veered
• 44:24
  into the the Drones territory again I wanted to make that
• 44:26
  point. Well it's got to be talked about
• 44:28
  too because he he is a part of the running game.
• 44:32
  They are. They're both should be parts of
• 44:33
  the running game. And again the the deeper you get
• 44:37
  into it is for me it it it would stink if we go up like a really
• 44:43
  big score and then drones gets all the run, but he gets all the
• 44:46
  runs with the lesser guys. That to me that sucks.
• 44:49
  It's really good for them because they're both younger
• 44:52
  guys. You know where Malik, excuse me
• 44:56
  too. He's a younger guy too.
• 44:57
  But you kind of want to see him with the big guys too.
• 45:00
  That's why it's going to be very important to them to drift them
• 45:02
  in. All right.
• 45:04
  Let's talk about offensive line next.
• 45:07
  And tally, I will start with you on this one.
• 45:11
  What don't you want to see? Stay on fucking sides.
• 45:16
  Don't just don't fall start, man.
• 45:19
  I mean I can't remember one game we like had eight of.
• 45:23
  I don't know how many we had. I had all the boys here.
• 45:27
  You can't. You can't win games like that.
• 45:31
  You know, you got to, you got to stay on sides, you know, if any,
• 45:35
  if we're going to get any penalty, I want to get a penalty
• 45:37
  of somebody like gouging somebody's eyes when they got
• 45:40
  them on the ground or something, you know what I'm saying?
• 45:42
  Yeah, just do something crazy and get a a unsportsman like
• 45:45
  that. Get nasty.
• 45:46
  You know what I'm saying? Like stop jumping off sides and
• 45:49
  giving them an extra 5 yards. You.
• 45:50
  Know getting penalized There needs to be a finisher.
• 45:53
  They don't need free Snap. Yeah, they.
• 45:55
  Got to be doing something. They don't do this free like you
• 45:58
  ain't even get hit yet and we already giving them yards.
• 46:01
  So no, no unforced. Yeah, No unforced stuff.
• 46:08
  Yeah. And I mean, I'm a piggyback on
• 46:10
  that. I mean, we're talking offensive
• 46:11
  line here. This is the ODU team that lost
• 46:14
  most of their defensive front. They're almost completely brand
• 46:18
  new on both sides of the ball this year.
• 46:22
  There's no reason that we shouldn't average 5 yards per
• 46:25
  carry against this team. Combined quarterbacks and
• 46:28
  running backs? I don't think that's.
• 46:32
  That's something we can necessarily aspire to for a
• 46:35
  season outlook. I think we can take more baby
• 46:37
  steps on that regard, but against this opponent, 5 yards
• 46:40
  per carry should be a good team average.
• 46:44
  Yeah, at least. Need to see some big runs.
• 46:48
  Need to see some big holes? Yeah, And that's the thing I'm
• 46:51
  going to be looking for. And again, Sigler's going to be
• 46:53
  over at the house Saturday night watching the game with me.
• 46:56
  I'm going to be bugging the crap out of him because we know
• 46:59
  Crooks teaches different coaches different.
• 47:01
  It's going to be a slightly different style.
• 47:05
  So the question is how do the run concepts look?
• 47:07
  How do they look different than last year?
• 47:09
  Is it better technique? And I was listening to the
• 47:12
  Crooks interview from last week and excuse me, listen to his
• 47:15
  interview, didn't listen to Xavier Chaplin's interview.
• 47:17
  And it was a mention that Xavier talked about how Coach Crook
• 47:21
  doesn't try to correct him practice.
• 47:24
  He doesn't try to correct him practice.
• 47:26
  He gets it on tape. He gets there in the film room.
• 47:28
  You're staring at it. That's where he starts coaching
• 47:30
  you up. And I was.
• 47:32
  I was going back and forth, I sent Robbie a message.
• 47:34
  I sent both of y'all and y'all kind of elaborate how that can
• 47:38
  help an offensive lineman because to me, the answers Y'all
• 47:44
  gave were great. So I'm going to let y'all kind
• 47:46
  of speak on those a little bit. So I think like my basketball
• 47:49
  coach did it best, he would take a practice, but it would be like
• 47:54
  a, you know? Pregame practice day before a
• 47:58
  game or something and we'd be scrimmaging.
• 48:01
  He would set a camera up and he would sit down.
• 48:04
  You know the plays, you know the plays.
• 48:06
  Talking about the two teams, go run your plays.
• 48:09
  He wouldn't say nothing. Tape doesn't lie.
• 48:12
  That's what he said. If I come to you and tell you,
• 48:14
  hey, you ain't giving me full effort, then you're going to say
• 48:19
  in your mind I'm going as hard as I can coach, but then you
• 48:22
  look at it on tape and you loafing.
• 48:24
  Then I can coach you. You know what I'm saying?
• 48:26
  Tape does not lie. What What you put on tape is
• 48:30
  what I see is what the fancy is, what is what you're doing.
• 48:34
  You know what I'm saying? That tape's going to show us
• 48:37
  what plays you're taking off. So that's a good, a good teacher
• 48:42
  to show you, you know, when what you're doing.
• 48:46
  I got you on tape. You're here.
• 48:47
  I'm here. Let's correct it now.
• 48:50
  Yeah, I'm with that too. That that's exactly what the the
• 48:53
  mindset that I was thinking there.
• 48:56
  When you look at practice, you got a finite amount of time and
• 48:59
  practice to get through everything you need to get to,
• 49:02
  right. So you're meeting anyway, you're
• 49:06
  you already got the time scheduled in the meeting room.
• 49:09
  I'm going to do my correcting in the meeting room where I've got
• 49:11
  something I can point to and say here's what you did, I can pull
• 49:16
  other cut out, cut ups together and say here's what you should
• 49:19
  be doing. I can do that, get that visual
• 49:22
  there and and make sure that what I saw on the field is
• 49:28
  actually what happened. Because sometimes we see stuff
• 49:31
  in real time and it looks either better or worse than it actually
• 49:35
  is, right? We can look at the film, watch
• 49:37
  it two or three times, maybe four or five times, and kind of
• 49:40
  really dive in and and break down what each individual player
• 49:44
  did across the line. We'll have a better idea of what
• 49:47
  went wrong and what went right on that play.
• 49:50
  Seeing that one time in real time and trying to correct that,
• 49:53
  you might be correct in things that you don't need to correct
• 49:56
  and you might miss something that you know you can correct
• 49:59
  later. So it's just a better use of
• 50:01
  time in my opinion, approaching it from that perspective in one
• 50:05
  piece. Tally, you didn't say, I'm going
• 50:07
  to say what you said here, he wants them to play, not think
• 50:11
  and I think let's go last year we talked about those false
• 50:15
  starts. Y'all, you said it numerous
• 50:18
  times on Twitter. Segler said it on his program.
• 50:21
  We fought too much playing offensive line.
• 50:23
  Your job on offensive line and and tally you were in inland
• 50:26
  tight in what's your job what's your.
• 50:29
  Job, you got to go hit, you got to block, you got to find
• 50:32
  somebody, you got. To find somebody you cannot
• 50:35
  think, you cannot think. And I think, and I think it's
• 50:38
  the time and two with Crook being hired because he's been
• 50:42
  doing this for a long time, you know, I'm sure he's had all kind
• 50:44
  of. Different personalities and
• 50:46
  attitudes that he's coached. With him being hired so late in
• 50:51
  the process, he had to learn what he had pretty quick and
• 50:56
  he's still learning. So certain kids, you can't push
• 50:59
  them at certain points. Like a game.
• 51:04
  I might lose you if I say, like if I get on your ass, you know
• 51:07
  what I'm saying? It's kind of like I'm with my
• 51:09
  son in baseball. It's only certain times where I
• 51:11
  really can. Get to him and say what I need
• 51:15
  to say. I just got to let especially
• 51:16
  when he's hitting, I just got to let him hit, you know what I'm
• 51:20
  saying. And then if he, if he, if he
• 51:22
  gets under the ball or if he does something, he'll come ask
• 51:26
  me what I did, what did I do? But guess what I'm using
• 51:29
  recording it. I'm using recording and I'm
• 51:31
  going you keep opening your front side you know your front
• 51:33
  shoulder is popping up your back shoulder is dipping too quick so
• 51:36
  you're popping the ball up. You know you got he's learning
• 51:40
  what his kids can do during these.
• 51:43
  Fall camp and a little bit of summer that he's been there.
• 51:46
  I think that that's why he's had that kind of approach that he's
• 51:51
  had because the last thing he wants to do is him to go, hey,
• 51:55
  you ain't blocking nobody and then this kid's in a funk the
• 51:58
  rest of practice. And so now I've wasted a whole
• 52:01
  practice and we don't have many practices before this game.
• 52:05
  Now I think we, of course, and being a coach, you're going to
• 52:08
  see him coaching, you know, into the game and into the season.
• 52:12
  He's going to handle that a little bit different during the
• 52:15
  games than he has, but I think he had to do this getting up
• 52:18
  until the getting ready for the season.
• 52:21
  Yeah. And then you also got, you know
• 52:23
  GA's and other other members of the staff that.
• 52:26
  And as groups are rotating in and out, like when you go from
• 52:30
  the ones to the twos, twos to the threes, you know they're,
• 52:32
  they're going to the side and saying all right on this play
• 52:35
  you might have did this and they're giving those like micro
• 52:38
  corrections as they're going along.
• 52:41
  You know, the crook's probably, you know, over there watching
• 52:44
  the big line, you got those guys giving those minor corrections.
• 52:47
  But what you're also not doing in that case, you're not calling
• 52:49
  the guy out in front of the whole team.
• 52:51
  You know, you're not stopping the flow of practice just to
• 52:55
  just to make that correction. So you're being more efficient.
• 52:58
  You're still getting those corrections done during the
• 53:02
  practice, just not by crook directly.
• 53:04
  And then you're getting crook diving into the tape and
• 53:07
  pointing out those corrections and how to make those.
• 53:10
  Those changes going forward, absolutely.
• 53:12
  The one last piece and and this and I'm going to just put this
• 53:15
  on here and we're not going to say anything else before we flip
• 53:17
  to the next one. Don't play down, don't play
• 53:20
  down, go play, go attack, go drive them out of the way.
• 53:24
  And I'll always say this, make them not want to be on that
• 53:27
  field come to third quarter like like I don't coach, I don't want
• 53:30
  to go back out there. They keep hitting us.
• 53:32
  They keep slinging us. Xavier's driving me and riding
• 53:36
  me to the ground and putting 330 pounds on me every time and he
• 53:40
  slapped in my head afterwards. That's what I want.
• 53:44
  Don't play down to this team real quick.
• 53:47
  Before we go to break, we're going to talk about special
• 53:49
  teams. We got a couple pet peeves here.
• 53:51
  I'm going to start with mine. I want to see Peter Moore from
• 53:54
  two years ago when Peter Moore used to boom punts.
• 53:58
  You know, I think that I think having a new special teams coach
• 54:02
  is definitely, you know, one of those things you see can
• 54:08
  definitely take it on. But Peter Moore went from
• 54:10
  averaging almost 45 a punt last year to under 42, three.
• 54:16
  Some people say, well, what's 3 yards, 3 yards over the course
• 54:20
  of the seasons is a couple football fields and that's a lot
• 54:24
  of field position. And I understand when you change
• 54:27
  coaches things can happen. But I all say Stew Holt's always
• 54:31
  been a good special teams coach wherever he's been, so hopefully
• 54:35
  it's the season of Gellin. He gets back to booming them and
• 54:38
  we can pin some people deep. Sigla, what you got?
• 54:43
  So we got a new place kicker, We got John Love in there.
• 54:47
  All I want to see is no misses inside 40 man.
• 54:50
  Consistently make those those not gimmies, but very makeable
• 54:55
  kicks. If you make all of your makeable
• 54:57
  kicks, then you know we'll see what happens.
• 55:01
  You know, outside of 40, Outside of 50, it sounds like love may
• 55:05
  not be taking the the long kicks, but pretty much anything
• 55:09
  probably inside of 50 is going to be his territory.
• 55:12
  And if it's inside of 40, I need that to be pretty much
• 55:14
  automatic. All right, Tally, what's your
• 55:17
  one Piece home? Listen, good execution, whoever.
• 55:26
  I don't need to know. Dante Ramanovich or whoever the
• 55:30
  fucking long snapper is, I don't even need to know your name.
• 55:34
  I don't need to know your number.
• 55:36
  I don't need to know what high school you came from.
• 55:38
  Because if I know too much about you, that means you've done
• 55:41
  something wrong. If you snapped this ball over
• 55:45
  that kicker's head and they get a touchdown on it, you need to
• 55:48
  get on that bus and go back to Norfolk with them.
• 55:51
  Like you, you just can't do it. You cannot do it.
• 55:54
  This year, we don't need to give up any points on special team
• 55:57
  that we don't have. No business giving up good
• 55:59
  execution. No matter if it's on punt,
• 56:01
  kickoff, field goal, whatever. Just go do your job.
• 56:07
  If your job is to snap, just snap.
• 56:09
  If your job's to hold, just hold.
• 56:12
  Don't hold, but thank it don't do.
• 56:13
  This that child said no. No taps to go from Norfolk to
• 56:16
  Newport News this time. Come on now.
• 56:21
  All right. So there it is offensive and a
• 56:23
  little bit of special teams there.
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  Now back to the episode. All righty and we are back, and
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  we're going to talk a little defense.
• 57:58
  Before we talk defense, I I got to agree, Andretti's been
• 58:02
  putting stuff up here. I haven't had a chance to get to
• 58:04
  it. But yes, I think we all.
• 58:06
  Want to ask? I don't know if y'all been
• 58:09
  watching and really been coming on strong like the last three
• 58:12
  weeks. Yes, he has.
• 58:15
  He's put some good stuff and then we get off the topic and I
• 58:17
  see, yeah, tonight I won't. And I and.
• 58:19
  Yeah, because we do want a nasty ass defense.
• 58:22
  We do want some lockdown corners, We want an edge, we
• 58:26
  want an X man there. So that's.
• 58:29
  For you right there, buddy. Oh, that's some names.
• 58:32
  That's some names right there. So all three of those guys play
• 58:35
  live. All three of those guys, they
• 58:38
  were all. One of them, one of them been on
• 58:40
  the show. One of them been on this show.
• 58:43
  Yes, he has. That man in the middle down tap
• 58:45
  has been on this show. But let's talk about the defense
• 58:49
  boys and let's talk about the defensive line.
• 58:53
  And I'm gonna throw a little stats at y'all.
• 58:55
  I'm gonna let y'all jump off of it from here.
• 58:58
  So last year, Hokies averaged just over 2 sacks per game.
• 59:02
  Y'all me how? With the ODU game?
• 59:03
  How? Many.
• 59:05
  We got 111. We had one sack last year.
• 59:10
  And they were not in that game. I think we've got to have the
• 59:14
  defensive line set it off and I think tally you, you've been
• 59:19
  bringing him up, you've been looking at him.
• 59:21
  You know who it is. Yeah, Power Rollin, man.
• 59:25
  I mean, we need him to be disruptive with everybody knows.
• 59:29
  I mean, what what have we seen on the tape?
• 59:32
  The spin move like. The.
• 59:33
  First time that I see that spin move used in a game and work, I
• 59:39
  might have to buy a new TVI, might knock my TV down, You know
• 59:44
  what I'm saying? Because it's been a while since
• 59:46
  we've had, you know, a defensive lineman, a defensive end in
• 59:50
  particular, just be dominant, you know, or just, you know,
• 59:54
  show us something like that. So, and we've had some good
• 59:57
  defensive end and not taken away from anybody that we've had, but
• 1:00:01
  just to. You know get to that.
• 1:00:03
  I think somebody said on one of our other on our other shows
• 1:00:07
  maybe it was the, the. Dwight Preview Yeah, we were
• 1:00:11
  talking about who's the last person to have 10 sacks, but it
• 1:00:14
  was Kenny Cannon. Like, that's a long time ago,
• 1:00:18
  you know what I'm saying? So where you get those?
• 1:00:21
  10 years at this point we're pushing 10 years where you get
• 1:00:24
  those sacks, that is. I mean, yeah, you want to get
• 1:00:27
  some sacks against Florida State, but when you play teams
• 1:00:31
  like Waffle, then you play teams like ODU, you go and pad your
• 1:00:36
  fucking stats. If you can beat that man in
• 1:00:38
  front of you, you go beat him every play.
• 1:00:40
  You get to that quarterback, every play if you can.
• 1:00:43
  So go out there and get you 2, 1/2, three sacks.
• 1:00:46
  That's what I want to see. Yeah, yeah, I think that
• 1:00:49
  definitely need to see a big game for Pal Ryland right at the
• 1:00:51
  gate and I think we need to see some some big things from these
• 1:00:54
  other three guys. I think we need to see Burgos
• 1:00:56
  name the starter. This week.
• 1:01:00
  Today, I'm surprised by that a little bit.
• 1:01:02
  I ain't gonna. Lie.
• 1:01:03
  That's that's big surprise. Yeah, because that that tells me
• 1:01:06
  that the level of play, not counting APR, has also been
• 1:01:10
  leveled up, right? Because we saw Nelson last year,
• 1:01:12
  we saw McCray last year, we didn't see Burgos last year and
• 1:01:15
  we did Burgo. Burgos is taking significant
• 1:01:18
  snaps away from those two. That tells me that we have
• 1:01:21
  leveled up based on what we already had on the roster before
• 1:01:25
  APR got here. I don't think I called his name,
• 1:01:28
  but I think he was on the BMF awards.
• 1:01:30
  Yes, he was on the yes, I think his number.
• 1:01:33
  I think his number stood out on the BMF awards.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah. And I think we know a little bit
• 1:01:39
  more why a guy like Kyrie Boyson decided to move on, right?
• 1:01:43
  Because I, you know, we we talked about him maybe being
• 1:01:47
  like the fourth or fifth guy, you know, depending on what
• 1:01:50
  Burgers did. But if Burgers is leveling up
• 1:01:52
  like that, I mean that's that's big man.
• 1:01:54
  And then? You know, you know you're gonna
• 1:01:55
  get solid play from from Nelson. You know that Mccray's gonna be
• 1:01:59
  able to to flash from time to time he's put on some more size.
• 1:02:03
  So you know I'm excited to see what they can do.
• 1:02:05
  But coach process today, when when Burgos is in there with
• 1:02:08
  APR, they just make more plays. They make more plays.
• 1:02:13
  Hey, somebody put that put this up right here.
• 1:02:15
  What low country just put? In hello country, all right.
• 1:02:17
  Put that. You gonna make him on it?
• 1:02:19
  Put that up. If he has 12, actually we've
• 1:02:23
  been it's been a decade for since we've seen 10.
• 1:02:27
  If he gets 12 low country, we sending you, we sending you some
• 1:02:31
  merchandise. If if he gets 12, then Curtis's
• 1:02:34
  prediction of eight's definitely coming out, yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Yeah, he is 12. The eight's definitely coming
• 1:02:41
  out because they ain't going to know how to game plan for us.
• 1:02:44
  But we keep talking about that line and stuff and the what I'm
• 1:02:48
  looking for Saturday night, we can get one that that'll be just
• 1:02:52
  fine, just fine. No, we need more than that.
• 1:02:56
  But go ahead, Curtis. Listen to me, Listen to me.
• 1:02:58
  Theory, man. That first pop, he gets hit
• 1:03:03
  hard. Grant Wilson back there, He gets
• 1:03:05
  hit hard the rest of the night. He's short.
• 1:03:07
  Arming it. No relationship, OK, OK.
• 1:03:09
  Short arming. It He's sailing it.
• 1:03:11
  So you telling me Grant Wilson's gonna turn to Grant Wells from
• 1:03:14
  last year? If if Apr hits that spin move,
• 1:03:17
  it hits them hard the first time that kid ain't gonna know what
• 1:03:21
  to do with the ball. He's gonna know is I'll tell.
• 1:03:23
  He's got, I'll tell you. Something after me fast.
• 1:03:25
  I'm getting rid of this thing quick.
• 1:03:27
  Hey, I will take one second. Four picks all day.
• 1:03:29
  You gag them, right? I would take 4 picks all day.
• 1:03:33
  But it's setting. But I agree with you, right?
• 1:03:35
  I agree. It's the tone.
• 1:03:37
  We go out there and have five sex.
• 1:03:38
  Great. We're going, we're going to know
• 1:03:41
  about it. They're not.
• 1:03:42
  They're going to be behind the chains all night.
• 1:03:44
  If we don't, if they're constantly getting rid of it, if
• 1:03:47
  it's constant pressure, if they're constantly worried about
• 1:03:50
  what's happening, then you know, that's what we got to see.
• 1:03:54
  And then let's talk about the inside guys.
• 1:03:57
  You know, they're they've got them five there.
• 1:03:59
  Darius Payne did make the 2 deep with Wilfred Penne.
• 1:04:04
  We didn't see any young guys. These are all older, you know,
• 1:04:09
  Pain might be able to come back one more year because of the
• 1:04:13
  Achilles. He might be able to do a medical
• 1:04:15
  red shirt. Panay's back and Fuga's back
• 1:04:18
  next year, guaranteed. But the two guys who kind of
• 1:04:20
  lead that unit in Kendrickson Pollard are gone.
• 1:04:24
  And you know, I think somebody, somebody, and I don't know who
• 1:04:30
  it's going to be, y'all got anything about on the inside?
• 1:04:33
  Who? Who do y'all feel like y'all got
• 1:04:35
  to see on the field this year at D tackle at some point to start
• 1:04:39
  doing things? I mean, I don't, I don't just
• 1:04:42
  have somebody that I would just say I got to see, but I would
• 1:04:45
  love to see a kid like Law, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:04:49
  Like I'd love to see him in just sheer sizewise, but I don't know
• 1:04:56
  if he's there yet. You know, I haven't heard much
• 1:04:58
  about him. But when you start getting up in
• 1:05:01
  games and you're able to play some young people, you you never
• 1:05:03
  know, You know, you may you may get to see somebody get in and
• 1:05:07
  get a tackle for a loss or just make a tackle, you know, get a
• 1:05:10
  game tackle in lane under the lights.
• 1:05:14
  You know what I'm saying? You don't know what kind of
• 1:05:16
  confidence that builds for the rest of the season, you know,
• 1:05:20
  just to be able to get in and and and and show something.
• 1:05:23
  So I'm going to be excited to see who they rotate in.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, I'd be interested to see what he does.
• 1:05:30
  I'd be interested to see if a guy like Malachi Madison makes
• 1:05:33
  any makes any run this year. Was he hurt, though?
• 1:05:39
  Yeah. Didn't he do something to his
• 1:05:41
  knee? Maybe.
• 1:05:42
  Yeah, I couldn't see if he was done for the year or what he was
• 1:05:47
  done, but I can't remember guy, guy like him, maybe getting some
• 1:05:50
  run, you know, are we going to see a gun or giving sight?
• 1:05:54
  And if we get up, that's a good name.
• 1:05:56
  That's a good name. I think some of y'all went out.
• 1:06:01
  I think I went out. What about Malachi?
• 1:06:03
  Because Malachi was the guy last year who flashed the most like
• 1:06:08
  he was looking like he could do something.
• 1:06:10
  But we haven't heard his name in a long time, right?
• 1:06:12
  That's who Brian was just talking about.
• 1:06:14
  Malachi Madison. Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  I think that's when you went out.
• 1:06:17
  Brian was talking about him. We were trying to remember if
• 1:06:19
  he's hurt. I thought something.
• 1:06:21
  I thought he got hurt, like you have a knee injury or something.
• 1:06:24
  That might be the case in that, but from this line on the
• 1:06:29
  inside, I hope one young guy flashes, if not the portals got
• 1:06:33
  to be hit hard next year. But I'm going to be interested
• 1:06:36
  because they're keeping pain at that D tackle position.
• 1:06:39
  I'm wondering if there is some sort of package that he's
• 1:06:43
  staying in there for strictly nickel situations because that
• 1:06:47
  seems like to be the way. And let's talk about nickel.
• 1:06:50
  Hey yo, I'm so ecstatic boys. We finally got a nickel on the
• 1:06:54
  death chart. Like a truth.
• 1:06:55
  If they literally say Derek Canteen is going to be the
• 1:06:58
  nickel, y'all know how excited I am for years.
• 1:07:02
  We need a nickel. We need a guy who plays
• 1:07:04
  cornerback to play nickel corner.
• 1:07:07
  I'm excited. I think you're going to be a
• 1:07:09
  ball or two, man. I think you'll have a good year.
• 1:07:11
  I mean, again, whenever you just hear and I know it's football
• 1:07:15
  talk sometimes, but watching that kid, the first time he
• 1:07:19
  steps in lane, he gets that tip pass from Jalen Stroman and he
• 1:07:24
  picks it off in the spring game, like, dude, I think he's going
• 1:07:28
  to be a baller. Yep.
• 1:07:30
  And now Speaking of Stroman, that's one of the points I kind
• 1:07:32
  of want to make about what I I'm interested to see Saturday
• 1:07:35
  night, because I want to see how Chris Mark calls the game with
• 1:07:39
  Stroman back in free safety, because Stroman is a true free
• 1:07:42
  safety. I love Tamari Connor.
• 1:07:44
  Tamari was a strong safety playing free safety.
• 1:07:46
  Was a nickel linebacker playing free safety.
• 1:07:49
  Jalen Stroman is a legit NFL free safety.
• 1:07:55
  Argue with me what you want to say.
• 1:07:56
  He is a NFL free safety. You look at his body tight,
• 1:08:01
  Jalen, 61, he's 200 pounds. We know he hits.
• 1:08:04
  We know his movement. When you have somebody like
• 1:08:07
  that, I always go back to Kyshawn Jarrett.
• 1:08:11
  Who Kyshawn was More of a box safety, but is a little bit more
• 1:08:14
  athletic when you have those true free safeties.
• 1:08:18
  Y'all can Y'all can attest to it.
• 1:08:19
  You can do a lot more upfront, you can do a lot more schematic
• 1:08:23
  because that guy's got this side of the field to that side of the
• 1:08:27
  field that he can get there. Yeah, I mean we we saw it in the
• 1:08:30
  spring game, man, with the instincts to break on that ball
• 1:08:32
  and get the tip. I mean that you can't really
• 1:08:36
  coach that. That's just something that's,
• 1:08:39
  you know, it's innate that that type of intuition so.
• 1:08:45
  You know seeing him take the next step this year I think it's
• 1:08:48
  going to be big for this defense.
• 1:08:49
  I want to see him make some of them big plays like we saw in
• 1:08:53
  the spring game against ODU and again at to Curtis's point
• 1:08:57
  seeing how Marv calls that and how how he's going to deploy his
• 1:09:01
  safeties in particular Stroman in this game is is what I want
• 1:09:06
  to see. The other thing I want to see,
• 1:09:08
  since we're talking about safeties is you know how much
• 1:09:11
  run are are most and and Jalen going to get?
• 1:09:15
  They kind of in the in the 2D over there because they too
• 1:09:17
  deep, you know most looks like a man.
• 1:09:20
  Most looks like a man he's, you know he's a freshman.
• 1:09:22
  But he's he's he's, he's one of them.
• 1:09:25
  Them BMS we talked about and you know Jalen switching sides of
• 1:09:31
  the ball already, you know jumping into the too deep making
• 1:09:34
  some noise here. I want to see number one.
• 1:09:36
  I want to see them get some some quality snaps #2 I want to see
• 1:09:39
  what they do with them. Yeah, the the two say Jalen
• 1:09:42
  especially because there were guys who were in that room that
• 1:09:46
  had been defensive back to their whole life and that's what they
• 1:09:49
  got recruited for. He's the 2 deep guy that tells
• 1:09:53
  you and they talked about he took them into mentality.
• 1:09:57
  He took that competitive mentality and ran with it.
• 1:09:59
  Tally, what are you looking for, man?
• 1:10:01
  I mean, what killed us last year?
• 1:10:04
  When we think about ODU, you know.
• 1:10:07
  Ollie Jennings, you have a girl. You have a pretty good game on
• 1:10:14
  defense Until what? The last series, maybe the next
• 1:10:18
  to the last series, and you get big play here, we're going to
• 1:10:22
  just throw one up and our cornerback gets turned around
• 1:10:25
  and Alan Jennings, you know, catches a deep pass on us.
• 1:10:28
  That gets them to about the five.
• 1:10:30
  We can't have any big players from ODU, you know, 5 yard run,
• 1:10:35
  whatever. You know, they may get a first
• 1:10:37
  down, whatever. That's football.
• 1:10:39
  We can't have no explosive plays to a team like this.
• 1:10:43
  You don't want to be in a dogfight with a team you're
• 1:10:45
  supposed to be because crazy shit happens when you let people
• 1:10:48
  who are inferior to you step around.
• 1:10:50
  And yes, I'm calling ODU inferior to us.
• 1:10:53
  We have a better team. We are playing at home.
• 1:10:56
  We are playing at 8:00 at night under the lights.
• 1:11:00
  Lane is going to be rocking. That is a game we should win
• 1:11:05
  again. Go ahead, Brian.
• 1:11:06
  Yeah, I was gonna say if Shelton Moss is on with us tonight, he'd
• 1:11:09
  be saying the thing that killed that defense last year was
• 1:11:12
  explosive plays. If you take out the explosive
• 1:11:14
  plays, that's a pretty damn good defense.
• 1:11:18
  Probably. But, but we gave up a bunch of
• 1:11:21
  explosive plays. We, you know, we talked, we
• 1:11:23
  talked ad nausea about what happened against fit, but also
• 1:11:26
  looking at ODU about three or four big pass plays, most of
• 1:11:30
  them to Olly Jennings. Is the difference between 10
• 1:11:33
  more points getting taken off the board and it wasn't even
• 1:11:36
  good passes? No, they weren't.
• 1:11:37
  No, they were ducks, man. They were ducks.
• 1:11:39
  They were throwing while getting hit.
• 1:11:41
  I mean, he was floating in the air.
• 1:11:42
  I was like, I don't know who needs to pray.
• 1:11:45
  I don't know who. Ollie Jennings got praise
• 1:11:48
  because if they want Ollie Jennings on that team, it was
• 1:11:51
  all going to get caught, man. Well, he's on our team this
• 1:11:54
  year. Yes he is.
• 1:11:55
  So we need, we need to make sure we get him the ball.
• 1:12:00
  Yeah, we just know, man, we can't have any big plays.
• 1:12:02
  We can't have any, you know, fluke plays, you know, is what
• 1:12:07
  I'll say now. I'm going to say something else.
• 1:12:10
  I don't have this on the run down, but talk about the too
• 1:12:13
  deep of the corner backroom, because the too deep is Dante
• 1:12:19
  Lovett. Is Braylon Jennings or Johnson?
• 1:12:23
  Excuse me? And it's JP, not JTJP.
• 1:12:27
  Jonathan Pennix. We got three true freshmen,
• 1:12:31
  basically with The Deep, and I know Canteen and I, Delaine
• 1:12:36
  Mansoor and oh, I say no, no, no, I know.
• 1:12:42
  We get, we get, we know. Dorian, we know Dorian and we
• 1:12:48
  know Canteen, and we know Mansoor Delaine.
• 1:12:51
  We know they're going to rotate because we know all three guys
• 1:12:53
  can do all three positions, so. But we know just based on this
• 1:12:58
  depth chart, when it's a true nickel canteens going to be in
• 1:13:01
  that slot. I think Canteen can play that
• 1:13:03
  the best. Anything else Y'all want to talk
• 1:13:05
  about the secondary room? Yeah, let's go ahead.
• 1:13:07
  Let's like like you said, man, let's just highlight the the
• 1:13:09
  three youths getting into two deep, man, because that that's
• 1:13:13
  big because that shows you that the dogs that this staff is
• 1:13:20
  recruiting are showing up and are ready to play.
• 1:13:24
  True. Well, it's kind of like Delaine
• 1:13:27
  last year, like we as hokey fans kind of knew or thought you
• 1:13:32
  know, oh this kid is pretty good, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:13:35
  Didn't have a flashy rating if you go back and look at his
• 1:13:40
  rating. Good off the list, not great
• 1:13:44
  rating, but good off the list. But casual fan would just be
• 1:13:47
  like Okay. You know he's another freshman.
• 1:13:50
  He'll he'll developed into a solid player.
• 1:13:54
  He goes out there and takes a spot last year, you know.
• 1:13:57
  Well guess what Pratt comes on our show.
• 1:13:59
  If Y'all ain't been listening, you better go back and listen.
• 1:14:03
  He's been on here, he said I'm going to recruit people to bring
• 1:14:06
  in to take your spot. So these people that he's going
• 1:14:10
  to recruit, these freshmen that have come in, he's went and told
• 1:14:13
  them, I want you to come in and play.
• 1:14:16
  I'm not recruiting people to be fifth year seniors and you know,
• 1:14:19
  finally get a shot if you can come in right now.
• 1:14:21
  We won three fucking games last year.
• 1:14:24
  We need people who going to come in and help us win right now.
• 1:14:27
  And I think the freshmen have been showing that, you know,
• 1:14:30
  they're willing to get out there and make plays.
• 1:14:32
  I'm going to make a point on this, and you keep hearing it
• 1:14:35
  all the time. You heard it from Canteen today
• 1:14:36
  talking about these guys come from good schools, winning
• 1:14:40
  programs. Fante Lovett play the DeMatha.
• 1:14:44
  Best One of the best in the WCAC, Right Miss Sigla.
• 1:14:46
  Yes, Sir. Brandon Johnson plays out here
• 1:14:49
  at Highland Springs 5 state titles in the last eight years.
• 1:14:52
  It's one of the two, probably one of the two or three best
• 1:14:55
  programs in the state. Went down, beat Maramar down in
• 1:14:58
  Miami. Didn't have a problem with them.
• 1:15:00
  That's they went to Daddy Johnson school and took his high
• 1:15:05
  school out of my town. And then Pennix went to
• 1:15:08
  Appomattox County. Appomattox couple years ago won
• 1:15:10
  the 2 eighth state title. That's a smaller division.
• 1:15:13
  But again, you're talking about the mentality.
• 1:15:16
  Those guys ain't used to losing. They aren't used to losing
• 1:15:19
  competitive reps So you bring those guys in, you look at their
• 1:15:24
  body, 6 foot 196, one, excuse me, 611756180.
• 1:15:31
  They ain't me and Kelly, me and you keep.
• 1:15:33
  We've had this conversation that's like where we at they
• 1:15:36
  look like. Where we get to fix it back
• 1:15:38
  unless they playing somebody like Quan Felton, six, five, 220
• 1:15:42
  pounds. But there's so many of them in
• 1:15:44
  the world. Right now I was.
• 1:15:45
  I was told by somebody that doesn't know Ball that Jonathan
• 1:15:49
  Pennix wasn't going to see the field until he was a senior at
• 1:15:52
  at best. So we know we talked to a lot of
• 1:15:56
  people who don't know Ball. I'm just going to play that all.
• 1:16:00
  Right. All right.
• 1:16:01
  All right, let's go. We got one last room before we
• 1:16:04
  get to our prediction, and that's the linebacker room.
• 1:16:07
  And I'm going to hit mine up first just because I'm leaving
• 1:16:11
  it. I want to see We know County
• 1:16:14
  Jenkins is the lock starter. You know our our buddy right
• 1:16:18
  here. Ellis threw up here talking
• 1:16:20
  about Cotman history, what Cotman's going to do.
• 1:16:22
  Cotman not on the too deep at all.
• 1:16:25
  I still think you'll see out there cuz he's got the body
• 1:16:27
  tight. But I want to know how much run
• 1:16:29
  Woodson gets as a too deep guy. And Tally, you made a big piece
• 1:16:34
  about what you want to talk about talking about the young
• 1:16:36
  guys, right? Yeah, I mean it's let me say,
• 1:16:41
  I'm just thinking you had two at cornerback, then you had
• 1:16:46
  Woodson, so you got Johnson, Lovett, Woodson.
• 1:16:49
  You know, Cottman probably will be somewhere in there.
• 1:16:53
  Like how many of these guys do we get to see and how big a jump
• 1:16:59
  are they going to take, You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:01
  If they get in early, that's what we need.
• 1:17:03
  We need them to get in in these first couple of games because I
• 1:17:06
  feel like the the bulk of our schedule, it's probably game
• 1:17:11
  five is when we really start to get into some oh shit games, you
• 1:17:16
  know what I'm saying? So if we can get some of these
• 1:17:18
  early games and get some of these kids some confidence and
• 1:17:21
  some playing time, you know, what's that?
• 1:17:23
  What's that youth movement look like?
• 1:17:26
  How big a jump can we get from them to get ready to go into the
• 1:17:30
  rest of the season? Yeah, I'm with that.
• 1:17:32
  And like, you know, especially when we talk about.
• 1:17:35
  You know Woodson and Copman that that's the future of that star
• 1:17:37
  position. So if we can, if we can see what
• 1:17:40
  they got early that that would be big.
• 1:17:42
  I'll tell you what what interested me was was to I mean
• 1:17:47
  you. Man, got it.
• 1:17:47
  Dude, he he got it. He called it last week.
• 1:17:50
  Keller started. Mike that.
• 1:17:52
  That's a big one for us. I feel like I'm excited to see
• 1:17:56
  what he brings to the table. Obviously athleticism out the
• 1:17:59
  gate. We haven't probably had this
• 1:18:03
  athletic of a middle linebacker. I I can't remember when if we
• 1:18:06
  being honest probably. You may go straight up with you.
• 1:18:09
  I love Vince Hall. Vince Hall was somewhat
• 1:18:11
  athletic. Ben Taylor CUZ Ben Taylor made
• 1:18:15
  it to the league and Ben Taylor was an athletic ass Mike.
• 1:18:18
  Yeah, but you're probably right. You're probably the most
• 1:18:21
  athletic. Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Vet. Now Vitch was athletic, but you
• 1:18:25
  said the most, and that's. Probably it, yeah.
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  This is probably the fastest and quickest Mike linebacker we've
• 1:18:32
  seen in probably almost 20 years.
• 1:18:35
  And then you know the name that popped up in the 2 Deep.
• 1:18:39
  I know they're sitting on the run down, but I'm going to talk
• 1:18:40
  about it. We saw Will Johnson crack the
• 1:18:42
  two with two deep at will. Shot by that?
• 1:18:46
  And we hadn't heard his name in a minute.
• 1:18:47
  He's been injured most of the first two years on campus.
• 1:18:51
  But seeing him crack the 2 deep, that's big because that's
• 1:18:54
  somebody I don't think a lot of us had thought about.
• 1:18:58
  And if he's pushing other guys that we did think about out of
• 1:19:01
  that too deep spot, I feel like that's a good sign, man.
• 1:19:04
  All he's got to do is get hit one time and have a little blood
• 1:19:07
  come down his nose. He's going to be a hokey
• 1:19:09
  forever. They're going to love him, Will
• 1:19:12
  Johnson. Hey, get that little blood
• 1:19:15
  running down your nose, man. Go look at the pictures of
• 1:19:17
  decks. They love him in Blacksburg.
• 1:19:21
  Well, but, but, but will. Johnson's a little bit different
• 1:19:24
  than Dax will ever, because I remember when his take came out,
• 1:19:26
  Brown was talking about him. Brian, you thought he could play
• 1:19:29
  star. You thought he was athletic?
• 1:19:31
  Enough. He came out.
• 1:19:32
  I mean, he was a he was a safety that we were recruiting as a
• 1:19:35
  linebacker and he's, he's got the tools there.
• 1:19:39
  I feel like Will's probably longterm a better fit now,
• 1:19:43
  especially since he's got in the weight room.
• 1:19:46
  You know all of that. He's probably at a point now
• 1:19:48
  where Will is probably a better fit for him.
• 1:19:50
  So, but again, we talked about it.
• 1:19:52
  Athleticism. Athletic.
• 1:19:55
  I mean, look at the four, look at the six starting linebackers
• 1:19:59
  this year or the six in the 2 deep.
• 1:20:03
  We got Keller, you got Lawson, you got Johnson, you got Tisdale
• 1:20:10
  and see what you want to say. Tisdale's somewhat athletic.
• 1:20:13
  For his position and then Jenkins in the freaking nature.
• 1:20:15
  Caleb Woodson out of Star. Well, Sunsdale was a good fit
• 1:20:19
  athletically at will. He's going to be an Amatic
• 1:20:21
  athlete. It might, yeah.
• 1:20:23
  So you know something I think with this one though, because we
• 1:20:27
  talked about the athleticism, is I think we need to see Kalai
• 1:20:32
  Lawson take over this game. And when I say that, it may not
• 1:20:37
  show up in the stat lines, right?
• 1:20:39
  It may not. It could be one of those games
• 1:20:42
  where they they drop him more in coverage, Not to worry about it.
• 1:20:45
  But I sit here and I and I go back to one of his analysts and
• 1:20:50
  I think about X. In his second year, X had some
• 1:20:54
  monster games. X had a game against West
• 1:20:57
  Virginia where he had 10 tackles, he had a sack, he had a
• 1:21:00
  tackle for loss. I think he's going to have games
• 1:21:04
  like that. I think they're still going to
• 1:21:05
  be growing pains, but his athleticism, I think Saturday
• 1:21:08
  night, depending on how they use him, I think he could wreck shop
• 1:21:12
  Saturday night. And I think if we see that if he
• 1:21:14
  wrecks shop, I think all of us like that defense.
• 1:21:20
  It was solid last year. It has a chance to step up if
• 1:21:25
  they wreck shop because the levels have changed.
• 1:21:28
  You have we we'll go through all of them.
• 1:21:31
  You've got a really good secondary.
• 1:21:33
  You've improved on the defensive line and we just talked about
• 1:21:36
  it. We have athletic linebackers
• 1:21:38
  everywhere. All righty.
• 1:21:42
  Well boys, we have hit that time of the night.
• 1:21:45
  It's time to make predictions. Now before we throw our own
• 1:21:49
  predictions out there. Some of y'all have been nice
• 1:21:52
  enough to throw your predictions in here and I'm going to pop
• 1:21:54
  these up real quick. We got Low Country Living saying
• 1:21:58
  3110. I'm assuming all these are
• 1:22:00
  Hokies, Hudson Hatfield 3817, William account 3810.
• 1:22:08
  Anymore photos out there? We're going to be given hours,
• 1:22:12
  Brian. We're going to let you lead it
• 1:22:13
  this year, man. What do you got for Saturday
• 1:22:16
  nights under the light at Lane Stadium?
• 1:22:19
  All right, so last year we lost this game 20 to 17 in Norfolk.
• 1:22:27
  We gave a 10 point swing on a field goal.
• 1:22:30
  We had an in in a completely inept running attack.
• 1:22:35
  We had a bunch of turnovers from our quarterback.
• 1:22:39
  And we still lost the game by three points.
• 1:22:42
  On paper. We've gotten better.
• 1:22:43
  They've gotten worse. If this is anything less than A2
• 1:22:48
  touchdown victory, I'm going to be a little concerned.
• 1:22:53
  Shout out, shout out. Pete B, he's right there with
• 1:22:55
  it. I I was saying if this is
• 1:22:56
  anything worse than a 2814 game, then there's there's probably
• 1:23:01
  some things we should be a little concerned about.
• 1:23:03
  I don't have it looking that way.
• 1:23:04
  I've got it looking like 38 to 10.
• 1:23:08
  I've got us running, running the boat on them a little bit.
• 1:23:12
  All right, Tally. Because I'm a hokey fan and
• 1:23:16
  because I know how the world is makes makes me feel I got us
• 1:23:23
  right at 2814. I got us getting a little bit of
• 1:23:27
  hope. We look pretty good, but we
• 1:23:29
  can't look too good and get too excited because.
• 1:23:31
  Just enough not to worry. Just enough not to.
• 1:23:34
  Worry that wouldn't be the hokey way.
• 1:23:36
  You know what I'm saying? That I got us 2814.
• 1:23:38
  All right, we're going to throw up a couple other scores here
• 1:23:41
  before I give nine. We got Ella Savage saying 2710,
• 1:23:45
  rescore win. And here's our big one.
• 1:23:48
  Justin is saying 4210, and Justin, me and you aren't that
• 1:23:54
  far off. But hold on there, there's the
• 1:23:57
  real number, right? There, there we go.
• 1:23:59
  There we go, got some more coming in here.
• 1:24:04
  Chris Martin saying a 10 point game, that's the one where if
• 1:24:07
  that's that game, you know what we going to do next Tuesday.
• 1:24:11
  We say we're going to try to cut it down this year and we going
• 1:24:13
  to be here while if it's 20. 13 I do not want to criticize the
• 1:24:17
  hell game. I understand why you put that,
• 1:24:19
  Chris. Yes, we all.
• 1:24:21
  Understand why you put it. All right, So I'm going to go
• 1:24:26
  with this score. It's the same score I had last
• 1:24:29
  year and if it don't work this year, I ain't using it again.
• 1:24:34
  I'm saying 4117 Hokies. I'm going to go a lot of what
• 1:24:38
  Brian said. We've gotten significantly
• 1:24:40
  better in just about every facet of the game.
• 1:24:44
  They effectively have gotten significantly worse.
• 1:24:47
  I added the 17. I've decided to stick with that
• 1:24:50
  because I think it's going to be something like 4110 and they're
• 1:24:53
  going to sneak that one little score to Tally's point that
• 1:24:57
  makes us go away a second. Are we really all that good?
• 1:25:01
  Why we let them score late like this?
• 1:25:03
  But I do see us winning. I also think if we hear the
• 1:25:06
  tones from the the tones from the presser today, Coach won't
• 1:25:11
  fucking around somebody in there.
• 1:25:13
  If y'all didn't hear, we won't talk about Alan Jenkins and he
• 1:25:16
  did, he deadpan. He didn't say we don't have
• 1:25:18
  anybody by that name on our team.
• 1:25:20
  Ali Jenkins, we don't have anybody by that name.
• 1:25:23
  The kid was like, well, Ali Jennings, yes, that's who we're
• 1:25:27
  talking about. Like, I think that probably piss
• 1:25:29
  Coach off more than anything. Get the name right, you.
• 1:25:33
  Got to get it right to pay the price, baby.
• 1:25:35
  So if y'all got more predictions again, throw it in there, we'll
• 1:25:38
  put them up. But we are going all with hokey
• 1:25:41
  victories here for Week 1. And let's hope it is, boys, just
• 1:25:48
  because I don't feel like talking a week from now after a
• 1:25:50
  long Labor Day weekend, it's going to be a long Labor Day
• 1:25:53
  weekend. Yep, yeah, all of us.
• 1:25:56
  I got Friday off, man. I got a four day week, man.
• 1:25:59
  We're I'm, I'm taking Friday off.
• 1:26:00
  I got a four day weekend. It's going to be craziness, but
• 1:26:05
  Speaking of a four day weekend, it's going to be football on
• 1:26:08
  starting Thursday all the way to Monday night.
• 1:26:11
  Well, see, my son, my son's game got rained out last night.
• 1:26:16
  Started lightning. He plays tomorrow at 6:30.
• 1:26:19
  So I got football wins, yeah, Thursday and y'all play next
• 1:26:22
  Tuesday, right? Yes.
• 1:26:24
  No, no, no, no. We're off.
• 1:26:25
  We're off. Excuse me, five straight days of
• 1:26:27
  football for talent. So Tally, let me pitch to you.
• 1:26:31
  I know what game you got. I know this game is going to be
• 1:26:34
  kind of overlapping the Hokies, but I got a feeling you got your
• 1:26:37
  you got one and why do you have it on this one?
• 1:26:40
  And who you taking? I'm going to say North Carolina
• 1:26:44
  and South Carolina mainly. You got the you got ACC versus
• 1:26:51
  SCC first week of the season. Drake may I think one of the
• 1:26:56
  best quarterbacks in college right now.
• 1:26:59
  We've heard a lot about this conference realignment.
• 1:27:02
  I think I'm going to take I think N Carolina's -2 1/2 right
• 1:27:07
  now I'm. Going to take it.
• 1:27:09
  I'm going to take North Carolina -2 1/2 on that game.
• 1:27:12
  I think N Carolina's going to come out.
• 1:27:14
  And I think they're going to, you know, show why the ACC is
• 1:27:19
  better, baby. We do it better over here.
• 1:27:22
  No, I just feel, I just feel like the beginning of the
• 1:27:25
  season, Drake May is going to come out and he's going to start
• 1:27:28
  his. He's going to start his
• 1:27:29
  campaign. I got them winning that one and
• 1:27:31
  I think that's going to be a I think it's going to be a good
• 1:27:33
  game, alrighty. Sigler Yeah, So my game I I kind
• 1:27:40
  of went a little sideways on this and I wanted to do
• 1:27:42
  something a little different, not take some of the obvious
• 1:27:46
  matchups I'm looking at Boise State, UW All right.
• 1:27:54
  That's a that's a 14 1/2 favor for the for the Huskies there it
• 1:28:01
  is. I will take Boise plus the 14
• 1:28:05
  1/2, but I think the Huskies take the WI think it's going to
• 1:28:08
  be closer than the experts think.
• 1:28:10
  I think that's a game that can come down to the wire.
• 1:28:13
  That's a good game. Let's not watch this.
• 1:28:14
  That's also Brian, Brian, just trying to make a bet on the 3:30
• 1:28:17
  game, so we actually have something to pull up at the
• 1:28:20
  house. We go.
• 1:28:23
  I'm gonna throw one up here real quick.
• 1:28:27
  Ellis is saying he's gonna be watching the Penn State, West
• 1:28:30
  Virginia game. Ellis, if you got three TV's,
• 1:28:33
  you can definitely do that. That's why I got three TV's,
• 1:28:35
  because like to watch two games at once?
• 1:28:39
  Boys. Here.
• 1:28:41
  Here. Hey, here's there.
• 1:28:43
  There. You gotta have one on the phone
• 1:28:44
  too. You got one on the phone?
• 1:28:46
  Yeah, you can go 4I. Got two more screens here on my
• 1:28:50
  computer so I could go five boxes if we want to, baby, we
• 1:28:53
  can go crazy. We can go crazy.
• 1:28:55
  I'm going to Thursday night to kick off my weekend okay.
• 1:28:58
  I think it is going to be an absolute slugfest in Salt Lake
• 1:29:03
  City with Utah versus Florida line is 6 1/2 Florida.
• 1:29:10
  I think Utah will win the game. I think Florida covers.
• 1:29:14
  I think it's going to be similar to last year's games where it
• 1:29:17
  literally that game came down to that was a hell of a game to
• 1:29:19
  watch. It came down to the wire with
• 1:29:22
  Utah just fallen short and in so many games all over the weekend
• 1:29:28
  to watch the big one. I'm I'm I'm kind of glad they
• 1:29:31
  put Florida State LSU on set Sunday night.
• 1:29:35
  Yeah cuz man, if that would have overlap with the Hokie games
• 1:29:38
  like I'm gonna watch the Hokies. But the college football fan of
• 1:29:41
  me wants to watch that game, too.
• 1:29:43
  Yeah. So thank you TV producers for
• 1:29:45
  finally. Getting great game last year, it
• 1:29:47
  was a great. Game last year, Great game last
• 1:29:48
  year. I'm interested to see if Duke
• 1:29:50
  can keep it close with Clemson. That's gonna tell a lot about
• 1:29:54
  Duke this year, yeah. I'm interested.
• 1:29:56
  You see the spread on that? See the spread 12 and a half 12
• 1:29:59
  1/2? That ain't a big spread.
• 1:30:01
  No. One might be saying a lot about.
• 1:30:02
  Speaking of big spread though, y'all see the UVA Tennessee
• 1:30:06
  line. No.
• 1:30:07
  What is it? 28 1/2 isn't it?
• 1:30:09
  2828 flat, 28 flat. Now that might not be enough.
• 1:30:17
  That seriously might not be enough.
• 1:30:18
  I I know you. I love you, my boy.
• 1:30:21
  But if y'all lose the the Tennessee, then Tennessee fans
• 1:30:25
  going to be on your ass, right? They only day on all day, all
• 1:30:30
  day. Just a couple more things to pop
• 1:30:32
  up here. Thomas says take the under on
• 1:30:34
  Florida. I think the under I think it's
• 1:30:36
  44 1/2 might be right. That's 40.
• 1:30:39
  Anything like mid 40 scares me cuz fluky things happen in
• 1:30:43
  college football where it's like I got this at 43 and it's
• 1:30:46
  somebody rode to pick six back the last second you're like,
• 1:30:48
  yeah. 4849 is where you start feeling a little bit more
• 1:30:53
  comfortable. Exactly.
• 1:30:54
  Cucked us down into 75. We appreciate it.
• 1:30:59
  We appreciate anything breaking. Y'all we've been in here an hour
• 1:31:02
  and a. Half nothing breaking, man.
• 1:31:04
  I think one thing that I do want to say though is of course all
• 1:31:09
  of the people, man, we appreciate you guys coming in,
• 1:31:12
  spending some time with us. Somebody asked the question and
• 1:31:16
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• 1:31:19
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• 1:31:22
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• 1:31:25
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• 1:31:28
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• 1:31:31
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• 1:31:34
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• 1:31:37
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• 1:31:42
  Boundary corner name out. I got to get my cups and all of
• 1:31:44
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• 1:31:48
  has been doing a awesome job with some of the stuff that he's
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  Yeah, and I was going to say we got more.
• 1:32:00
  Most of it's going to be orange. I'm going to let y'all know, but
• 1:32:04
  y'all just get ready. So Clark just joined in.
• 1:32:08
  We put Clark up here right quick, man, Clark said great
• 1:32:12
  show, man. We're glad you.
• 1:32:13
  Hey, you just better be getting ready, man.
• 1:32:15
  It's season now. You got a job.
• 1:32:18
  You got a job, Clark. Yeah, job Clark.
• 1:32:20
  Clark. We might run into you next or
• 1:32:22
  not next Saturday. Yeah, next Saturday.
• 1:32:25
  Hopefully run into you because we've said it already.
• 1:32:27
  And I'll say it again, we will be in town for the Purdue game.
• 1:32:30
  Me and Brian are going to be pulling in sometime early Friday
• 1:32:34
  afternoon. Tally going to be in at the butt
• 1:32:37
  crack of dawn on game day. I might get the slide in Friday.
• 1:32:41
  I'm not sure yet. I know.
• 1:32:43
  I mean, it's not looking like it, but you try.
• 1:32:46
  I'm gonna try. You try.
• 1:32:48
  If you pull it, you know, you know, you know what's gonna
• 1:32:50
  happen. It's gonna be a fun Friday
• 1:32:51
  night. It's gonna be a.
• 1:32:53
  Fun Friday night. It can be that fun of a Friday
• 1:32:55
  night because I actually want to go to the game.
• 1:32:56
  The fun of it won't be like I'm gonna be.
• 1:32:58
  Doing what I'm doing here if I got.
• 1:33:00
  Here for three guys pushing their 40s.
• 1:33:02
  If I gotta carry you to the game on my back, you going to the you
• 1:33:06
  gonna make it, don't you? Don't worry about it, Tally
• 1:33:09
  gonna hand me over his shoulder. He's going.
• 1:33:12
  To the game. Yes, Sir.
• 1:33:15
  All right, we'll hit you up on Friday, Clark.
• 1:33:31
  Under 30 hugs from Jeremy. You're right, Chris.
• 1:33:18
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