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Britain’s slow surrender: How a nation loses itself · Two Mikes on America Out Loud

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together now on the website. We want to
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welcome back Ed Dutton. Ed Dutton live in
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Finland. Welcome back, the Jelly Heretic. How are
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you doing, sir? Hello again. Good to be
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back. All right. So welcome back, Ed. What's
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going on in your part of the world?
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Uh well, but do you mean my part
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of the world, Finland, or do you mean
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my homeland, Great Britain? You could give us
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both, sorry.
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I assume you mean Great Britain, because there's
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not much going on in Finland. Yeah, as
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far as I can see, we have the
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beginnings of sectarianism in Britain.
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We have the beginnings of the breakup of
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society. We have the beginnings of a parallel
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society. We have the beginnings of the
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collapse of Britain in its current form.
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And what's most most striking over
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the last week is we've had uh it
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coming to light that that there was this
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uh poor 18-year-old student at Southampton University,
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Henry Novak Novak, who was uh
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stabbed by a Sikh immigrant,
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and uh and then um this the Sikh
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immigrant rang the police and lied and said
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uh he he called me a racist word,
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and they turned up and this boy is
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lying on the ground, and he said, um,
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he said, I can't breathe, and uh and
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and uh I've been stabbed, and the police
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officer said, I don't think you have, mate.
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Immediately took the Sikh's side, arrested
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the dying boy for being racist. Um, and
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of course, on the word of this Sikh,
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and of course the boy died, and then
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it turned out the Sikh was lying, and
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he's now been sent to prison for murder.
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That's the first thing, which evoked riots last
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week uh in Southampton, and and a general
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view, even among mainstream conservative newspapers like the
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Telegraph, that there's basically two-tier anti-white policing in
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the UK and that the non-whites are privileged.
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And then we had on Monday of this
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week uh uh a Sudanese refugee
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attempting to behead a man on the streets
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of North Belfast, uh, which was at first
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kind of covered up by the media and
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they said it was a stabbing, and this
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has led to uh a serious riot, not
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the kind of riot that we have in
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the UK where people are filming it and
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live streaming and uh and rioting at the
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police station and standing outside it, uh, but
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actually uh serious disorder where, of course, you
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have paramilitaries still in Northern Ireland, uh, where
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masked men um started going around areas where
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they've put these uh these fake refugees and
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um setting fire to their houses and setting
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fire to cars in the area and setting
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fire to buses and uh Germany making it
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clear that this is not to be tolerated.
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So that's what's been going on in the
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UK.
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Michael, it's extraordinary what you see.
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Um what's it gonna take to get rid
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of Starmer? Well, only today, literally it's just
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happened. So, first of all, you had uh
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the Secretary of State for Health who resigned
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some weeks ago, and now you have today
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the Secretary of State for Defence has resigned,
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uh, stating that Britain is spending nowhere near
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enough money on defence that we're uh uh
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perilously close to war with Russia and so
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forth, and that we don't spend enough on
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defence and Salmos refusing to do anything about
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it, so he's resigned. And he's seen as
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quite a sort of moderate, reasonable kind of
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guy by Labour standards as well. So it's
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very damaging for him to resign. But I
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think that um I don't know whether this
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guy, uh Burnham, his name is, so
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someone has stood down so he can stand
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in a by-election in Man in um the
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north of England in Manchester, and if he
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wins, which he may not, then he will
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presumably come in and replace Starmer. But the
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cut the countr uh the country is as
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far as I can see, Britain is in
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chaos and it's getting worse and worse. And
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the kind of things I predicted in my
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book on declining intelligent at our wits' end,
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why we're becoming less intelligent, what it means
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to the future, which I read about eight
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years ago, have already come true, a lot
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of them. So I I do think that
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Britain, Britain is is collapsing. It's it's lots
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and lots of it is comparable to places
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that we would see as another world, like
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like parts of Detroit or parts of San
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Francisco. Increasingly, it's like that. I was in
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San Francisco and and Oakland three years ago,
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as it happens, filming, and I thought, well,
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good God, imagine if Britain became like this,
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good heavens, and and and now it is
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like that.
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You know, I was I I did an
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interview with some British uh interviewer,
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and I had been watching uh the news
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clips on uh YouTube and other places of
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Britain, and she was vehement that there was
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no such thing going on, that those were
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fake, they were fake uh videos, and
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it it and it it showed hundreds of
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people. I didn't know how they could do
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that. Maybe it's AI, I don't know. But
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she was just vehement on the fact that
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uh everything is okay, and it's you Americans
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that are causing all the problems, which I
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don't see how she can I don't know
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who this woman was, but I don't see
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how you can say that everything is okay
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when in most in most shops now you
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have to, yeah, uh even in quite nice
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areas, you have to have security tags on
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food, like metal security tags because because
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theft is out on cheese, on a bit
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of meat, on all alcohol, uh, because
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theft is out of control and uh the
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police don't come. They just they don't come.
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The head of Iceland, the guy is a
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there's a supermarket chain called Iceland, and the
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head of Iceland um uh note uh observed
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the other day in the news that if
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he were to ring the police because someone
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was stealing from his shop, the police wouldn't
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come. So it's effectively legalized theft. However, what
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did happen was that somebody in his a
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black person was trying to steal from from
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a branch of Iceland, and so he was
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confronted by an Asian at what by which
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I mean South Asian security guard, the black
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person rang the police and said the security
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guard had done some racism to him, and
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the police came within three minutes.
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How do you explain that kind of idiocy
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in in uh in uh the thinking of
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so many people? Because the well, police officers
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aren't generally particularly intelligent. I think they I
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think they they used to be. I mean,
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if you go back to the days when
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when uh I uh Leslie was his name,
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that actor that uh in those comedies with
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O.J. Simpson, what's it was the uh naked
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gun? Yes. If you go back to that
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generation, it's obviously a bit different because society
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was rather less meritocratic, and you'd get very
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intelligent people who perhaps they were intellectually capable
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of being, I don't know, a doctor or
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something. But there was no question of that
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happening, they couldn't afford it. And so they
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might go into the police and you'd get
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people like that. Well, those days in the
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UK are over. Um these days it's it's
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highly meritocratic, and if you're reasonably intelligent, then
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you can get to a job that is
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consistent with your intelligence. So the nature of
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the policing has changed. You have not very
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intelligent people, uh, people that are insecure, I
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think, because they're not very intelligent. And so,
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how do you deal with that insecurity? Well,
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you you you tell yourself that you're more
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moral than other people, that you're better than
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other people. Um, and the new morality is,
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of course, woke. And so you can see
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how it gets to a point where that
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for them there's nothing heresy is worse. I
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mean, heresy is worse than murder, isn't it?
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We used to burn heretics. We we'd we'd
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merely hang murderers. So I think it's it's
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that point. We've got to that that um
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runaway um uh virtue signalling point
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where heresy is worse than murder. They've been
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it the whole police force has been inculcated
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for the last 25 years since the MacPherson
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report, which argued that the police were institutionally
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racist, that there is nothing worse than racism,
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and therefore God, well, they must of course
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respond if there's even an allegation, an allegation
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of racism must be taken seriously, whereas, oh
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well, actual thieving or so on.
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Well, that's the way it is here, you
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know. There's places that get regularly um
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ripped off. People come in and stuff bags
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full of food or bags full of clothes
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or whatever they're gonna stuff. Yeah, this was
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noticeable three years ago when I was in
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Berkeley in California. Right. And you go into
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and you you'd a lot of things, anything
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that was above a certain price, you couldn't
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physically take it off the shelf. There was
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a blocker in the way, and you had
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to go up to a member of staff,
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and they would unlock it, and then you
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could you could take it off the shelf.
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But you didn't have that in the UK
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at the time, but you now do. And
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you didn't have people living in the street
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in the UK at the time, in in
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kind of uh tent cities, uh and in
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and in vans and whatever, but you now
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do. It's changed remarkably quickly in three
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years. Yeah. Well, there's been nothing to oppose
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it here. I mean, any any kind of
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recent even with Trump in power here, we
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still have people setting up uh uh uh
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tent cities for in rich areas for for
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these people, and they still it still goes
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along. It it is I don't know how
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they're gonna stop it. It's fascinating to think
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well, what is it in society that's changed,
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though? That's the question that 30 years ago
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this would be dealt with, and now it's
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not. We have it is it, I think
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it's an a con a concatenation of factors
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that's interesting. Two of the two that come
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to well, two that come to mind. One
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is just feminism, the influence of women. And
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so um then they are overly kind, uh,
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they they put feelings above everything else, they
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strongly object to conflict and to taking risk.
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And of course, there's now a situation where
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so many in the another thing they've done
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in the UK, lots of women police officers,
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and they've got rid of the traditional tests,
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the sensible tests. Like it used to be
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that to be a policeman you had to
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be at least five foot eight, which is
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slightly below average male height, or at least
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it was then, it's not now. Um, now
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you get these women police officers that are
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about five foot and um and and and
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couldn't take on anybody. So there's the risk
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thing. It may also be we're a much
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older society, even than we were 30 years
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ago, and old people don't like change, don't
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like risk, you know. So and and and
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then this kind of percolates uh through the
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society, so that we just um we just
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tolerate increasing chaos, uh uh because
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we we to not tolerate it involves a
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certain degree of gumption and a certain degree
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of risk. Um but this is what seems
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and then also there's just the magic thing
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of of being afraid of racism. It's not
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white people as a whole in the UK
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that are going to go around stealing things
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from shops, you know. No, um and when
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it's filmed, it's it's not generally it's not
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and it's not East Asian people doing it
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either. Um, it's mainly uh black people.
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Um and and and to to confront them
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involves risk and involves the accusation of racism,
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and it's just too much bother. And of
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course, what's the result? They have to put
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their prices up. You notice I noticed this
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when I was in Detroit, how high the
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prices were compared to Ohio. And of
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course, part of the reason for that is
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that they have to take into account theft
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and the consequence of theft in their 7-Elevens.
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So in their pricing. It's a funny, it's
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a reflection I I've had a couple of
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times since uh I I finished school a
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long time ago, but I was there at
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the birth of this all the feminism and
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stuff. And the feminists are behaving just as
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they said people accuse them of being soft,
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uh, you know, peaceful. Uh there
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the the introduction of women into the pol
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into the body politic, at least since
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the 70s, has not been an overwhelming success.
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I don't know if it's been a success
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of any kind. No, I I would agree
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with you. It's been a very, very bad
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idea. Um it's it's it's meant that the
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the things which women are interested in, i.e.
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feelings and avoiding conflict and whatever, have
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and uh and everyone feeling validated have been
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prized above everything else. Yes. And the notion
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that you have to be cruel to be
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kind, except to those that challenge your ideas
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and you can be very cruel to them,
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um uh is is is gone. If you
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there's a very interesting book by a psychologist
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at Harvard called Joyce Benenson, called Warriors and
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Warriors, i.e., biters and people that worry.
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And it looks at the difference between male
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and female friendships, and it argues that male
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friendships are based around basically being in an
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army. And so what you're interested in with
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your friends is what skills they can bring
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and what skills you can bring. And so
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there tends to be good-natured competition. Female friends
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are based around finding potential aloe parents for
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your children, and that means you can only
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have a small number of them, you have
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to be very, very uh strongly bonded with
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them because you've got to really trust them
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because they're gonna be with your children, for
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goodness sake. Uh, and and you you and
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you you want uh therefore a relationship of
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complete equality, and the worst thing is to
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be mean or to be seen as being
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mean, those are the women that get cast
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out. The most important thing is to be
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not mean, and nothing else matters, and so
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therefore, if you come across as mean in
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this feminized society, i.e., if you say, look,
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this person's not really an asylum seeker, they're
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a liar, get rid of them, then that's
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a problem. And then women are high in
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social insecurity as well. Um they're very
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high in social anxiety, and so they will
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then deal with this by taking whatever the
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dominant set of world views is that you're
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supposed to believe and pushing that to a
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more extreme degree. Yeah. Um, and that's interesting
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because when it was a right wing society,
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even though their inclination is generally towards equality
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and harm avoidance, when it was a more
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right-wing society, women were more right wing than
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men. And the, you know, all of the
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all of the enforcing of the sexual mores
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and the hounding out of women that were
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that were considered loose women were that was
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women that were doing that. When social work
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was established, it was it was a woman,
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a eugenicist woman, who was basically trying
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to stop what she saw as you know,
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sluts, um having children and passing on their
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degenerate genes. The eugenicist societies that were
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everywhere a hundred years ago in America and
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Europe and the UK were all run by
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women. Um, and then now it's a left-wing
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society, and so then it flips the other
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way. And so they are the most, they
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are the as George Orwell put it in
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1984, they are the enforcers, they are the
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snippers out of unorthodoxy, they are the
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enforcers, that's their social role, and it keeps
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the peace. And so then you have a
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situation where it's it's very, very difficult to
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have any kind of rational or logical discussion
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about any contentious issue because women will say
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you're being mean, you're being nasty, and they
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will shout you down. That sounds like MSM,
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but uh uh Ed, that sounds like MSNBC
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TV, where you get these women who just
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shout you down. By the way, speaking of
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that uh black fellow who was trying to
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be head a man in Belfast, Thomas Sowell
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put up this comment. He said, if you
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are not prepared to use force to defend
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civilization, then be prepared to
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accept barbarism. Well, that's that's exactly it. And
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that's what that was what happened even with
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with the Romans. They they were emotionally manipulated
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by these non-Roman Christians at their gates
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and let them in. Um, and so began,
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well, it had already begun, but so was
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Turbocharged the collapse of Rome into chaos.
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And it these these f so you have
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this this combination, this concatenation, as I said,
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of problems. So the rise of feminism, that's
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obviously that's a problem because it pushes us
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away from martial values, which you ultimately need
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um when you
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when you are in a difficult situation and
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when your people are committing crime, you need
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to have an optimum level of martial values.
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If it goes too far, then you'll get
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a left-wing backlash. And that's perhaps what happened
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uh in 1963, and um and and and
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is still ongoing. But you have to have
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these martial values, or you will be uh
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you will you will be balkanized and destroyed.
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If you're too closed, then well perhaps you
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will stagnate and you will go you will
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go backwards. And and that's a problem with
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the population being so old, increasingly. If you
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think about, I was thinking recently, uh there
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was a number of surveys on this, like
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what's the best comedies over the last 70
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years or so? Um, situation comedies, things like
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this, the ones we think are really brilliant.
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And there's a general agreement that it's the
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things that were made between the 70s and
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the 90s. Yes. And you see, and you
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and you see this both in America and
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the UK. It's slightly different in America, but
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it's it's it's the UK, but it roughly
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parallels. And we don't make good stuff anymore.
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Why don't we make good stuff? What we
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don't we don't take risks anymore. Why don't
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we take risks? Well, we're a much older
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society. These brilliant comedies were made by people
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in a in a in a in a
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society where there were a lot of young
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people, and therefore, although the people that made
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them were probably born to 20s, they weren't
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boomers, but that but but but but there's
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a general feeling that it's okay to take
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risks and to experiment. That was in the
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air, as it were, in the society. Um,
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now that is not the case, and there
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is a general feeling that you shouldn't do
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these things. Obviously, there it was a situation
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where we were at the beginnings of feminism,
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but it hadn't fully taken off. So this
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militates against taking risks, doing original things,
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even making fun of people. Um uh and
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then also I think that the that the
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you had a an optimum situation where the
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conservative set of values was on the decline,
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um, and the generation that was in charge
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of the country was born, you know, 1910,
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whatever, Nixon, that kind of generation. Um, and
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the generation that was the the woke set
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of values was was on the rise, but
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hadn't risen that far yet. So there was
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like an optimum period of freedom and
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creativity, which which existed from maybe up to
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the year 2000, it's hard to say exactly
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when, but something like that. But they can't
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make things like that anymore. Even something like
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Friends, which you could argue is very milk
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tax, they couldn't make that now because they
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wouldn't, because we're so high in virtue signaling
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and in needing to signal that you are
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part of the um the doctrinally correct
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group, that they would have to uh insert
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political messages very heavily into something like Friends.
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They already did a little bit, they did
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a little bit even then. Like you had
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Chandler having a black female boss,
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or or Ross, who's a professor at the
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university, and his boss is black. He had
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little things like that, but you could just
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about that. Was just that was the just
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little, but now it would be absolutely down
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your throat. One of the friends would be
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black, one of the friends would be transsexual,
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or whatever. You could never do Archie Bunker
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either. Well, no, no, that's
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interestingly. No, you you could you
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no, you couldn't do Archie Bunker, it would
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be because you you kind of that's the
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thing with not that we had I I've
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seen I've seen videos on it. I we
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didn't ever have it in the UK, as
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far as I know. But you you you
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you can't have that, or even something like
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Cartman, um, you can see would okay,
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it's been accepted in the culture, but it
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would be perhaps a problem now. But yeah,
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Archie Bunker, because you kind of sympathize with
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him, that's the thing. In in Britain, there
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was a character called Alf Garnet, who was
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uh similar to similar to Archie Bunker in
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the 60s and was opposed, you know, at
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a time when there was a lot of
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non-whites coming over. But uh but you couldn't
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do that, you can't do it because a
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big part of comedy is suspending disbelief. And
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if you feel that you must ram messages
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down people's throats, you can't suspend disbelief. So
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even in historical dramas that they have in
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the UK, they will ruin it by oh
19:09
yeah, it's it's 1066 and it's the Battle
19:11
of Hastings, but William the Conqueror's secretary is
19:14
black. Insane things like that.
19:18
We can't get we can't get back the
19:20
naked gun and peter sellers. Peter Sellers, who
19:23
could beat who could beat Peter Sellers? Come
19:25
on. I mean, I can watch that every
19:28
day.
19:29
I haven't really seen much Peter Sellers, but
19:32
the naked gun I can I can certainly
19:33
comment on. Indeed, they have made, I believe,
19:35
uh that's another problem. They've made a remake
19:38
of the naked gun. And that's what happens
19:41
towards the end of civilization. You don't do
19:44
new things, you imitate the things from the
19:47
past. Uh, and this was noticed in the
19:50
decline of Rome, the decline of Greece. Nobody
19:52
was doing new things because you don't take
19:55
risk. Uh, you you you you um you're
19:57
obsessed with money uh rather than anything broader
20:00
or more that's that's above money. You the
20:03
the the the the sort of martial values
20:04
and the sort of almost spiritual values where
20:06
you you do something for the sake of
20:08
being brilliant, that's kind of gone. Um the
20:11
uh and you have a you have an
20:13
individually oriented society that suppresses
20:16
anybody that stands out and questions the society
20:18
or anything like that, an insecure society. And
20:21
so you don't do original things, and you
20:23
can see that now all the time. Remakes,
20:26
prequels.
20:27
Um
20:29
it just goes on and on and on,
20:31
but nothing new, or if there is something
20:33
new, and there occasionally is, uh, that's brilliant,
20:36
it's very, very rare compared to this um
20:39
avalanche of original and interesting stuff that was
20:43
going on between about 1965 and about the
20:46
year, maybe the year 2000. Ed, are you
20:49
familiar with the election that happened in Virginia
20:51
uh last year? And the uh the woke
20:54
governor that we have now, who was a
20:56
former CIA agent, uh Abigail Spanberger, they
20:59
allowed uh Mike, what's what was he charged
21:01
with? Drug dealing, the the the guy in
21:05
charge, the head of the house now in
21:06
Virginia? No, he was a he was a
21:08
trafficker. Yeah, drug trafficker, and he went to
21:11
jail, yeah, and he threatened he threatened his
21:14
uh opponent, right, to kill the family or
21:16
something like that, right? And uh yeah, and
21:19
it was a white opponent, I think, too.
21:21
But he threatened them, and then they said,
21:22
well, he's capable to be the uh lieutenant
21:25
governor or the the attorney general of the
21:29
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23:20
Imagine that just 15-20 years ago. Well, that
23:23
happened, didn't it? Wasn't the mayor of Washington
23:25
openly taking drugs? Oh, yeah, he was the
23:28
cracker, the cracker, yeah. And they they they
23:31
they they re-elected him anyway. Oh, very
23:34
popular. And then there was the guy that
23:35
was the mayor of was it Toronto?
23:38
Um
23:40
this fat white guy. Yeah. And he and
23:42
and and he did all kinds of nefarious
23:45
stuff, and they just re-elected him. So um
23:47
I it it it's um no, I it
23:49
was happening. I mean, in in the UK,
23:51
there's an area called Tower Hamlets, and that
23:53
has an elected mayor. Um, and Tower Hamlets
23:56
is overwhelmingly South Asian and Muslim. And
24:00
he was done for corruption, he was banned
24:02
from standing for office for a period of
24:04
years as a punishment, and then they re-elected
24:07
him as mayor afterwards. Uh and I mean
24:10
this is this is uh one of the
24:12
things that you see with multiculturalism
24:15
is there's a significant degree to which it
24:17
is the it is the it becomes the
24:19
breakdown of proper democracy because you don't
24:22
vote along uh the lines of policies anymore,
24:25
you vote along the lines of tribe, and
24:27
you vote you vote along the lines of
24:29
what your ethnic group is and who is
24:32
advocating for that ethnic group, that it and
24:35
then you have a sectarian society. You've already
24:38
had a sectarian society in the United States
24:40
in the deep south, or in in the
24:42
south, that was effectively a sectarian society, and
24:45
everybody voted Democrat uh because
24:49
it that was seen as the party centrally
24:51
of the white working class. Um, and so
24:53
you'd have
24:55
against their interests, they voted for Democrats,
24:58
yeah. Exactly, but they didn't but they wouldn't
25:00
say they it didn't matter, you just voted
25:02
Democrat because that was the way you live.
25:04
Yeah, it's just unbelievable sometimes. But is there
25:08
a way to unwind it or do you
25:09
outweight it, or do you just end up
25:12
with it? Yeah, I was asked this. I
25:14
was asked this um yesterday, was it yes,
25:17
still there before in yesterday in an in
25:19
in an interview? I mean, if you think
25:21
about what creates sectarianism, essentially you
25:24
have um for however it happens, you have
25:26
two people of a normally of a different
25:28
ethnic group that are placed side by side
25:30
and have have different interests. If one of
25:33
them feels under threat, then they they
25:36
start uh building essentially a kind of parallel
25:39
society that excludes the other group, and then
25:41
the other group in response will do the
25:43
same. And then before long, you have completely
25:46
uh there's often a power imbalance, of course,
25:48
but you have the you have you have
25:49
these parallel societies that hate each other and
25:52
you or don't you know really don't get
25:54
on. And in Northern Ireland, this is exactly
25:57
what you had. You had the independence war,
25:59
Ireland become Southern Ireland, which is majority Catholic,
26:02
becomes independent, Northern Ireland is majority Protestant, um,
26:05
and so the Protestant minority really, really are
26:08
fearful of being dragged into the Republic of
26:10
Ireland, and so they start setting up paramilitaries
26:13
and so forth. At the same time, the
26:15
people that are Catholic in Northern Ireland, they
26:16
want to be part of the Republic and
26:18
they want to f and they're prepared potentially
26:19
to fight for it, they start setting up
26:21
paramilitaries. You then get a Protestant state which
26:24
discriminates against the Catholics to make sure that
26:26
there's all those Protestants in charge. Um, and
26:29
and then this eventually sets off a civil
26:32
war in the 60s when the Catholics noticed
26:35
what was happening in the Deep South and
26:36
thought, well, we can we're like the blacks,
26:38
and and we can we can behave like
26:41
the blacks and get rights and so on.
26:43
And um, you have the similar thing,
26:47
it can it seems it can be undone,
26:49
but it can only be undone if you
26:52
have one large ethnic group and then lots
26:54
and lots of fragmentation, and then that
26:58
multiple different ethnic groups, because then that one
27:00
large ethnic group, as long as they're strongly
27:02
united, can kind of take over, and then
27:06
um, unpleasant as it sounds, bring in laws
27:09
that make life very difficult for the other
27:11
ethnic groups, and then of course the other
27:14
ethnic groups will just start to leave, and
27:17
um and and and they won't be united,
27:19
so they'll also be kind of fighting among
27:21
each other as well, uh, and then they'll
27:23
start to leave. You did have something like
27:24
this in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan, uh as
27:28
it's in its current area, went down to
27:31
something like 30% Kazakh.
27:35
And you had all these other ethnicities there,
27:37
Russians, Germans, whatever. And now it's gone back
27:40
to being 70% Kazakh.
27:43
And the Kazakhs are, of course, united by
27:45
being well a separate ethnic group, obviously, a
27:48
separate language and a separate religion from the
27:50
other people because they're Muslims. Uh, so it
27:53
it seems that it can be reversed, but
27:56
it takes a very long time. And of
27:58
course, it takes your country being very poor
28:00
and being a very unattractive place to live,
28:02
which then encourages the foreigners there to leave.
28:06
So in the case of the UK, I
28:09
think it's it's rather more likely that there
28:11
we we will get to something rather more
28:13
like northern uh Northern Ireland, where you have
28:16
uh the English as a relatively united
28:19
group, and then the foreigners, but in particular
28:22
the Muslim foreigners, who are a relatively relatively
28:25
united group. I think I it's it's it's
28:28
I think the big the beginnings of this
28:29
parallel society are happening. I mean, one of
28:31
the things that starts to happen is that
28:33
you lose faith in the police, as we
28:34
were discussing earlier, the British police and their
28:37
appalling behavior inculcated with political correctness, essentially the
28:41
enemies of the native people at this point.
28:43
And what's already started, because in sections
28:47
of the side don't trust the police, is
28:49
the establishment of basically uh separate separate police
28:53
forces, private police forces, protection rackets. You have
28:56
this in the Jewish areas of the UK
28:58
now. You have their own police force, even
29:00
their own ambulances. Um they have that
29:03
upstate New York. You know, Ed, they have
29:05
two communities upstate New York, right outside of
29:07
the city, um, not too far from the
29:11
city, like these upstate, we call them upstate
29:13
counties, where they actually took over the counties,
29:16
uh, high-rises, ambulances, police force,
29:20
and heavy duty welfare, subsidized by the
29:23
state and the counties. Um, and it's it's
29:26
an it's like just having a little Israel
29:28
inside of uh a county in New York.
29:30
We have that for the
29:32
happened in in South Africa very, very clearly
29:35
that the uh the the bit the
29:38
the person that's essentially runs much of South
29:41
Africa is a guy called Val Bartman, who
29:43
is a former international rugby player. Uh he's
29:46
Afrikaans, and he's in charge of fidelity, which
29:49
is the biggest private security concern in South
29:51
Africa. And you pay him, and he
29:55
gives you private security, and you even advertise
29:58
on your house that you're in that you
30:00
know, that security group, and then people know
30:03
to leave to leave you alone. So it's
30:05
a de facto separate government, and
30:09
um you you have this about and then
30:10
of course you have Irania, which has established
30:12
itself as a basically a
30:14
little uh de facto Afrikaans
30:17
microstate. So I think this is what we
30:20
might be moving towards, um, because it's
30:23
increasingly dangerous in the UK. The police don't
30:27
enforce the law, the police um enforce uh
30:30
these heresy laws, but they don't act they
30:32
don't actually free speech violations or whatever, but
30:35
they don't actually enforce proper laws, like the
30:38
things that people want done. And so if
30:40
they're not going to do it, then people
30:42
will people can't people can't live like that.
30:44
People can't, it's intolerable that you can walk
30:46
around the street and get your foot mobile
30:48
phone stolen, or that you can that the
30:50
that shops can have can be keep can
30:52
can be stolen from. And so the only
30:54
solution eventually becomes, I'm afraid, protection
30:57
rackets.
30:59
That that could could the could the British
31:02
people, the citizens in Britain, could they at
31:04
least get protection by using some of those
31:07
castles that the royal family has? I mean,
31:11
after all, they're useless, they're just museums. And
31:13
what what is the what does Charlie have
31:15
to say and and William? I mean, you
31:18
don't hear them talking anything about the crime
31:20
in in Britain. Well, no, they are they're
31:23
not supposed to because they're meant to be
31:25
above politics, and so it's very important that
31:27
they don't say anything that is politically contentious.
31:30
So, um, but I mean there's a guy
31:32
I know called Sean Gab, who is um
31:35
a philosopher, a writer, whatever, and he christened
31:38
our former queen. You know how it they
31:40
used to give kings uh descriptive terms, so
31:43
Alfred the Great, Edmund the Magnificent. He
31:46
christened her Elizabeth the Useless.
31:52
Because
31:54
she presided over the complete collapse of
31:58
Britain and just
31:59
died. And in theory, in theory, she
32:03
does have the right to refuse royal
32:06
assent to to government
32:08
legislation. And she took an oath,
32:11
uh, and she's but she was a very
32:13
religious woman, and she took an oath stating
32:15
she would uphold the rights and traditions of
32:18
the English people. But this is not what
32:20
she did because you had the removal, for
32:23
example, you had the removal of double jeopardy.
32:25
This was basic law, you have it in
32:26
America as well, that you can't be tried
32:28
twice for the same offence. Really fundamental
32:31
law. And she got rid of that. That
32:33
was got rid of. Uh, they got rid
32:35
of, to some extent, the right to silence.
32:37
Um, so when you get arrested in America,
32:39
you say, you know, you're being arrested, and
32:41
anything you do say will be will be
32:42
taken down and maybe give it an evidence.
32:44
Right. That was the case until the late
32:46
90s. Then it became it may harm your
32:48
defence if you fail to mention when questioned
32:50
something you later rely on in court. So
32:53
it was attempting to water down the right
32:55
to silence. Of course, in general, any good
32:57
solicitor will just tell you just say nothing
32:59
anyway, but that's beside the point. Um, and
33:02
then there's just a whole-scale invasion of parts
33:04
of the country. She presided over that and
33:06
did absolutely nothing. So I mean there was
33:09
a one thing, in 2009, I think it
33:12
was, there was the expenses scandal that came
33:14
to light. And it was found that almost
33:16
all members of parliament, including the leader of
33:19
the opposition, senior government members, were corrupt. Almost
33:22
all of them were corruptly milking this system
33:25
where they could claim expenses. They were doing
33:27
things like claiming on expenses, getting
33:30
a duck spot, a duck, a miniature
33:33
duck to go in their duck pond in
33:35
their garden.
33:38
Or they were flipping where they lived, so
33:40
they were changing where they lived. So let's
33:41
get a lot of decorating done on this
33:43
house and say that's my second home that
33:44
I need to live in my constituency that
33:46
I represent, and then let's make the other
33:49
house that I have my primary house and
33:51
get decorating done there and then claim it
33:53
back on expenses. This kind of corruption. And
33:55
I think that people people were so furious
33:57
at the time that I think they would
33:58
have supported the Queen if she'd just said,
34:00
right, okay, I'm dissolving parliament, and any person
34:02
that has been found guilty of uh milking
34:05
the expenses cannot stand as an MP.
34:08
But but no, nothing, nothing, just nothing. So
34:11
they they don't they don't do anything. And
34:14
uh that there's rumours that Prince Charles is
34:16
quite uh sympathetic to Islam as well. So
34:19
uh no, I don't I don't hold out
34:22
any any any uh hope with the with
34:25
the royal family. They could have done something
34:26
about the destruction of Britain, they did nothing,
34:28
they simply presided over it.
34:31
And now and now with the Andrew scandal
34:34
with uh Jeffrey Epstein, that blew up in
34:37
their face, and then that's gonna be another
34:40
problem for them down the road, just like
34:42
everything over here with the Epstein files.
34:45
Yes, because I can only assume uh that
34:48
they this is again a problem, uh a
34:50
complete lack of open government. I can only
34:52
assume that the royal family must know things
34:55
that we don't. Because on the face
34:58
of it, uh you have if you've if
35:01
you've read her book, uh what's the name
35:03
of her? This uh Virginia Robert Scoffrey, she
35:05
has this uh memoir, uh Nobody's Girl, it's
35:08
called. Have you read it?
35:10
No, I haven't got it. It's insane. Like
35:13
she's obviously got borderline personality disorder, and
35:17
she's obviously a fantasist. She's clearly making
35:20
all these things up. It's insane what she's
35:22
saying. It doesn't make any sense what she's
35:24
saying, and things she says contradict other things.
35:27
So I don't know. I I she's such
35:30
an unreliable witness that she was removed as
35:33
a witness from the trial because it was
35:35
but the as you in America, I think
35:36
this was because it was thought the jury
35:37
just won't believe her, because any prosecu any
35:39
uh any uh defense uh uh uh attorney
35:42
will pull her apart. She's she's a she's
35:44
a pathological liar. So I don't we can't
35:46
know that what she says is true. There
35:48
is that photo of her and Fritz Andrew
35:50
and Gislaine Maxwell, but I don't think anyone's
35:53
seen the original. I mean, it could be
35:54
faked. Who knows? But um do they
35:57
know something we don't know? Because he gave
35:59
he the queen, probably the queen that gave
36:01
him the money, gave he said I deny
36:03
doing anything wrong, I haven't done anything, but
36:06
nevertheless, he gave her 16 million pounds or
36:09
something.
36:11
That doesn't make any sense. She probably needed
36:14
a good hairdo or something, maybe a new
36:16
dress.
36:18
It doesn't make any sense. I mean, she's
36:19
obviously crazy. She but she lied about that
36:22
they were trying to kill her and she'd
36:23
be in this car accident. Not long after
36:24
that, she committed suicide. Uh, she admits to
36:28
self-harm in the book. She she she's obviously
36:31
got what's called borderline personality, and they are
36:33
often fantasists and manipulative and liars. So so
36:36
but so something must be going on because
36:39
then Prince the King um not only they
36:42
first of all just stripped him of being
36:43
the Duke of York and of various privileges
36:46
and military honours and so forth. I think
36:47
did even did that happen even before the
36:49
queen died, or was he stopped? But that
36:52
still wasn't good enough. So then they did
36:53
this business the strange thing where they stripped
36:55
him of being a prince, which I'm not
36:57
sure they even have the right to do
36:59
because he's the legitimate child of a monarch,
37:02
so he's a prince. Simple as that. I
37:03
don't see how you can that's just the
37:05
way it is. But they and they insisted
37:06
on calling him Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. Now, I
37:09
I just don't I just think for it
37:11
to be that extreme, but and he's denying
37:14
he's done anything, remember? Uh, and there's and
37:16
there's no evidence, it must be something very,
37:19
very awful that he's done for them to
37:20
act like that. I think we're not being
37:22
told what it is.
37:24
You think he gave her a stable and
37:26
nice stallions, Mike?
37:30
I don't know. But uh what I'm quite
37:33
interested in is that the is that the
37:34
you you've been negative about Trump and so
37:37
forth. But one positive thing is that the
37:39
the it has Trump being elected, and then
37:41
of course Elon Musk getting uh Twitter has
37:44
absolutely galvanized and rendered confident um
37:48
the forces of conservatism, the forces of basically
37:51
being sensible and normal uh in Britain, in
37:54
a way that wouldn't otherwise be the case.
37:55
And the fact that particularly that Musk has
37:57
Twitter has allow allowed um information to
38:00
get out, which would otherwise be suppressed.
38:04
So this is this is uh this is
38:06
very significant that this has happened. And it
38:08
has led, I suppose, to even greater polarization
38:11
in the UK uh because of the way
38:13
in which that's happened. You know, you you
38:14
you've got more and more people moving towards
38:16
uh a backlash where people are are kind
38:19
of sensing that things are moving away from
38:20
the far left and moving towards the right.
38:23
Um, but then at the same time the
38:24
left is still becoming even even ever more
38:27
extreme uh on various issues. And so this
38:30
is a this is a highly polarized society,
38:32
and it has all of the which means
38:35
that if there were to be an election
38:37
and a right-wing government were elected, such as
38:40
uh reform or or whatever, then you the
38:43
the left just wouldn't accept it, like with
38:46
Brexit. They just wouldn't accept it. They'd argue,
38:48
no, this is a fascist government and we
38:49
can't accept it. And that's when you really
38:51
do get um the ingredients for a for
38:54
a civil war, as in your own country,
38:56
that there was a Republican government elected in
38:58
because of the northern states, um, and the
39:01
southern states weren't prepared to accept the
39:04
election, and so they succeeded they seceded.
39:09
What happened to Brexit? We don't hear much
39:10
of it anymore. Well, it's basically been a
39:13
they've betrayed the British people. So they got
39:15
their Brexit. Um, Boris got it through, but
39:18
then Boris realized that the economy of the
39:21
UK is basically this bizarre Ponzi scheme based
39:23
around bringing in as many immigrants as possible
39:25
and and and and thus keeping, to a
39:28
certain extent, keeping people spending money in an
39:30
aging society where not where people aren't having
39:33
children. Um and so he brought in a
39:36
huge amount of immigration. And the one thing
39:39
that people from and not that people voted
39:41
on when they voted 10 years ago, um
39:43
10 um 10 years ago, uh almost
39:47
exactly 10 years ago, uh, when they when
39:48
they voted for Brexit was they don't want
39:51
immigration. Um and that immigration at the
39:54
time was not yes, Commonwealth immigration, but also
39:57
from places like Poland and you know, sensible
39:59
people that have the same religion as us
40:00
and look like us. Um but they and
40:03
that's now completely that's now run dry. That
40:05
immigration has stopped, and they've replaced it with
40:08
immigration from Pakistan and places like that, which
40:10
is absolutely the last thing that the people
40:12
that voted for Brexit want. So there's a
40:15
general feeling of just being totally betrayed, and
40:18
that you really can't trust any polit any
40:21
any politician to do what they say, because
40:23
it was absolutely clear that we the people
40:25
voted Brexit. They were it was an essentially
40:28
a de facto referendum on immigration.
40:31
So when you go to Pakistan, I've been
40:33
to Pakistan twice, Mike, I think you have
40:35
to once or twice too. When you go
40:38
to Pakistan and you look how great the
40:40
poverty is and the and the filth and
40:42
the debris, you say, gee, we really need
40:45
that in the uh Western world in America.
40:47
We need that in in uh Britain. When
40:50
you look at what we have importing here,
40:52
now I don't know if you're up to
40:54
date on what's going on here. Almost every
40:56
day now on Twitter, uh, Ed, you
41:00
can see all the doctorate uh uh
41:03
doctor degrees of these people coming into this
41:06
country and getting high-level jobs in the uh
41:10
medical field, you know, and and just
41:13
pillaging and ripping off the Medicare system in
41:16
America, the welfare system.
41:19
Yes, it's in it's an inherently bad idea
41:22
to import into your country uh large
41:25
numbers of people who are foreign and are
41:28
the same kind of foreign as well, that
41:31
are from the same country, because they will
41:34
end up um militating in their own
41:37
interests. And it's inherently bad to bring
41:40
into your country people from a country that
41:43
is poor or chaotic or whatever,
41:47
because there is a degree to which whatever
41:49
partly genetic traits are causing that
41:53
situation in that country, they will be
41:56
um held by, to some extent, the kinds
42:00
of people you are bringing into your country.
42:02
Even if you're bringing in the elite from
42:04
that country, but particularly if it's it's non-elite
42:07
people that you're bringing in. You are bringing
42:09
into the country the psychology, um,
42:12
both environmentally mediated and genetically mediated,
42:15
that creates exactly that chaos. And then so
42:19
it's an interesting thing about taking in refugees.
42:21
One thing you might want to respond to
42:23
a person that's fleeing their country is your
42:25
country is chaotic and unstable
42:29
because people like you live there. So
42:32
we don't want you, people like you, that
42:34
create chaotic and unstable to come to your
42:36
country. I think it's quite reasonable to say,
42:39
right, um, you come from a country that
42:41
where where the members of that country, in
42:44
our country, uh commit above average levels of
42:47
crime. So although you may be the
42:50
exception that proves the rule, uh you may
42:52
be the outlier, on the basis of pragmatic
42:55
politics, we don't want you here. You come
42:58
from a country that has, in our country,
43:01
members of whom have above average levels of
43:03
psychosis.
43:05
So we don't you may not have psychosis,
43:09
but you might, it's more likely, so we're
43:11
not going to take that risk. Um, that
43:12
is an anti-individualist, um, very
43:16
uh uh old-fashioned way of seeing things, but
43:18
it's a it's a practical, I think, and
43:20
sensible way of seeing things that we have
43:22
to begin to understand. Northern Ireland was in
43:24
a civil war, and no for years, nobody
43:28
ever beheaded someone in the street.
43:31
Right? That's that that's that's that that that
43:32
specific level of extreme violence,
43:36
um, and uncontrolled violence, and probably
43:39
psychosis as well, um, is um
43:44
related to certain count certain kinds of
43:47
country. And um, so uh yeah, I think
43:50
that uh it's very I mean you I
43:52
might go further, you're coming up on your
43:53
250th anniversary, you were saying earlier, right?
43:56
When you were
43:58
part you were Britain West. That's what you
44:02
were. You were Britain West, you were you
44:04
were overwhelmingly English, there was a few Ulster
44:07
Scots, a few Dutch Irish,
44:11
a few Dutch, um uh and a few
44:14
French in Louisiana, but uh, or was that
44:17
even part of America at the time? I
44:18
can't remember. But but you were you were
44:20
overwhelmingly British, and you would have
44:23
remained a much more stable society if you
44:27
stayed that way. And I don't think it's
44:29
a coincidence that that the main people that
44:32
were militating in favour of left-wing change that's
44:35
damaged you in the 60s, the Kennedys or
44:37
whatever, Irish,
44:42
outsiders,
44:44
Catholics. You know, I don't I don't I
44:48
don't think that's a coincidence at all. No,
44:50
and the moment you had large-scale Irish immigration
44:52
in places like Boston, there were riots and
44:55
whatever, because you've then got two ethnic groups
44:57
in conflict. They used to say, when that
44:59
guy that was elected pres um the governor
45:01
of was it Alabama, what was his name?
45:03
Was uh George Wallace, George Wallace. Yeah, in
45:06
his acceptance speech when he won the election
45:09
in the early 60s, he referred to to
45:11
he said, We are the Anglo-Saxon Southlands.
45:15
That's what he said. And and the identity
45:18
back then of a lot of Americans was
45:20
as like the true Saxons, the Free Saxons,
45:23
the real English, yeah, the real, proper,
45:26
democratic, uh hard-working
45:30
Saxons, where England itself had been taken over
45:33
by the Norman French and by a
45:36
German king.
45:38
Um, and and so you know, and that's
45:40
that's really gone now, and now it's this
45:43
melting pot. But we we're seeing in England,
45:45
no, people should can't get on with and
45:47
don't get on with and shouldn't live with
45:49
and shouldn't have to live with people who
45:51
are significantly different from themselves. It doesn't work.
45:55
And it's new to Northern Ireland. When I
45:57
went to Northern Ireland to um Belfast in
46:00
2017, I was with an American friend who
46:02
lived in New York, and he was amazing,
46:05
everybody was ironic, everybody was white. I think
46:07
I saw three non-whites in my whole time
46:10
touring Northern Ireland, and they've gone from
46:13
being overwhelmingly white to now being a
46:16
centre, a hub of where the British
46:19
government sends these uh fake
46:22
refugees. Sub-Saharans, the sub-Saharans,
46:27
and now there's no guy. That guy that
46:30
killed this guy Ogilvy in North Belfast on
46:33
Monday night, uh, it was from Sudan. He'd
46:36
gone through numerous safe countries. I mean, Egypt
46:39
is a safe country. We go on holiday
46:41
there in Europe. People are European gone holiday
46:43
to Egypt. So he'd gone through numerous safe
46:46
countries, he'd got to France. At the very
46:49
least, he should have claimed asylum in France,
46:52
but no, he then made his way to
46:53
Dublin, could have claimed asylum in Dublin, but
46:56
no, then made his way to Belfast, and
46:57
there's no border, there's no hard border between
47:00
the Republic of Ireland and Ulster, and so
47:03
there was no check. And then he he
47:05
moves into this house, and within a few
47:07
days, he's murdering somebody. You know,
47:11
Ed, let me ask you, what was the
47:13
and and this goes back probably 25 or
47:16
more years? They started pumping in a lot
47:19
of Africans, sub-Saharan Africans into Dublin. What
47:22
was that all about? I think well, there
47:25
was at the time there was this um
47:28
tiger economy, it was known as. So the
47:31
Republic of Ireland uh liberalized all of its
47:34
economic laws. And this was very, very
47:37
successful for a very long time, and so
47:39
Ireland started doing well, and then there was
47:42
the uh uh
47:45
the need for cheap labour, and of course,
47:47
they could the Irish weren't gonna do cheap
47:49
labour, so then they you start bringing in
47:51
immigration, and immigration you get your cheap labour,
47:53
and in the first instance, before the bad
47:55
sides come through, like crime and whatever, this
47:58
makes everything cheaper. You've got cheap labour, labour
48:00
is cheap, and so this results in the
48:02
things that labour produces being cheap, and so
48:04
things are kind of at first going well,
48:06
and then they just bring in more and
48:07
more of it, and eventually you start to
48:09
see the negative side of it criminality, social
48:11
displacement, all of this kind of stuff. I
48:13
think a second part of it is what's
48:16
known as cultural cringe, and you might even
48:18
argue that you get this in relation to
48:21
with America and Britain. You certainly, I think
48:23
you get it with England and France, which
48:26
is that if you are the colonized nation,
48:29
then England was colonized by France, America was
48:33
a colony of Britain, then you see
48:36
yourself as a bit inferior to the colon,
48:40
to the colonizer, to the to the to
48:41
the dominant colonial nation, who is more
48:44
sophisticated in terms of his tastes, is
48:48
richer. Often that wasn't the case now, but
48:50
that was the case 100 years ago or
48:52
150 years ago with England and America, is
48:55
richer, is more important, is and and
48:58
and so and and and so on. And
49:00
so you you deal with that via cultural
49:02
cringe, which is you tell yourself, well, I
49:04
may not be rich and important and cultured,
49:07
but at least I'm uh physically
49:11
tough, and at least I'm
49:14
morally good, and at least I'm even perhaps
49:17
even at least I'm educated, and that's what
49:19
you do, and that's how the middle class
49:21
deal with the upper class, isn't it? They
49:23
say, Oh, well, you know, I'm not no,
49:24
I'm not rich like them, and I'm not
49:26
important like them, but I'm educated, and I'm
49:28
moral, and I'm you know, that's and the
49:30
working class deal with it by saying, Oh,
49:32
well, you know, I'm tough and I'm I'm
49:34
honest source of the earth. You you get
49:36
this again and again and again, and I
49:38
think this is what happened with Scotland, and
49:39
it's what happened with Ireland and Wales. They've
49:43
got cultural cringe in relation to England,
49:46
and so they say to themselves, well, at
49:48
least we're more we're more moral than them,
49:50
we're more moral than them. And how are
49:52
we more moral than them? Well, the current
49:53
morality is anti-racism, so we're we're less racist
49:56
than them, and so we're less racist than
49:59
them, and so we'll we will be uber
50:01
pro-multiculturalism. And I think
50:04
that's what uh uh Ireland did, it's what
50:06
Scotland has started to do, and it's what
50:08
Wales has started to do. And you have
50:09
these countries that are over, not Ireland, but
50:12
Scotland and Wales, that are like 95%, 96%
50:16
white preaching about to English, to England,
50:19
that's like 70% white, how anti-racist and amazingly
50:22
pro-multiculturalism they are. Yeah.
50:27
And I I I of course most have
50:29
never ever experienced what it's like, but they
50:31
are experiencing it now, and they're experiencing it
50:33
rapidly because to avoid immigrants building up in
50:36
one area, the government's been dispersing these illegal
50:38
migrants, these boat crossers from Calais, whatever, throughout
50:41
the country to random, rich,
50:45
white, overwhelmingly white places where you know you'd
50:48
still say, Oh, it's okay for a girl
50:49
to walk home alone at night. Uh, whereas
50:52
other countries, other places, London, whatever, have gradually
50:55
got used to the effects of multiculturalism and
50:57
they've built up resistance and they've built up
50:59
methods to deal with it. You know, you
51:00
would never walk home alone at night. That's
51:02
insane if you're a girl. No way. It's
51:04
London. Of course not, but you would do
51:06
that. And don't you don't you have Pakistanis
51:08
elected now in Scotland? There's Pakistanis elected in
51:11
the government.
51:12
Yeah, the Pakistani guy was briefly the leader
51:14
of the Scottish National Party and the first
51:16
minister of Scotland, but he was so useless
51:17
he had to stand down. And the guy
51:20
and the guy and the guy that's the
51:21
and he was a guy that famously stood
51:23
there in a country that's 97% white,
51:26
moaning the the chief of police, white, the
51:30
the Lord Chief Justice, white. Well, why wouldn't
51:32
they be white? The country's overwhelmingly white. Um,
51:35
and and so and then the the the
51:36
leader of the Labour Party in Scotland is
51:38
also um a Parkistani. Um,
51:42
and so it it's and then the at
51:44
the most recent election there were various Greens
51:47
that were elected. That were there was one
51:48
guy that was a I think he was
51:49
an Indian, and he he was only in
51:51
the country on a student visa, so he
51:53
hasn't even got the long-term right to remain,
51:55
and he was elected to Scottish Parliament.
51:59
Well, um it's not even here
52:02
Britain. You know the
52:05
absolutely, absolutely crazy. But I think that's why,
52:07
though. I think that's a part of it
52:08
of the psychology of why you know Scotland,
52:11
oh, we're pro-multiculturalism, we're so anti-racist. We hate
52:14
the English, obviously, but we're we're otherwise um
52:17
so anti-racist. And you have that kind of
52:19
thing um in America, uh as well, in
52:22
relation to England, you know, these Anglophiles, the
52:25
transatlantic accent that was popular about 70 years
52:28
ago, which basically sounds like an English accent.
52:31
Yeah, uh, Austin Brahmin, um, uh
52:34
this sort of thing. People talk about character
52:36
like Frazier Crane, the snob, yeah, and
52:39
he's a total anglophile, he looks up to
52:42
England. You get that, and in England you
52:44
get a lot of posh things, you know.
52:45
You it's very high class to speak French,
52:47
and you'll use little French phrases and things
52:50
like that. So it's a similar kind of
52:51
thing with England and France. Mike, what was
52:53
that guy we spoke about earlier today? Uh
52:55
Buckley. Buckley had that angular phile accident. Remember
52:58
William Buckley? In the Angle League, they used
53:00
to teach it.
53:04
What did you say, Mike? They used to
53:05
they used to teach it. They used to
53:07
teach uh if
53:08
go American women that went to sort of
53:11
uh East Coast uh uh private schools would
53:14
we would be taught it. Um you you
53:16
I've only met one person in real life
53:18
that's that used it. It was a woman
53:20
about in 2013. I was outside the White
53:22
House and there was some nutcase protest her
53:24
about something, this middle-aged woman, and she spoke
53:26
with it. I'd never heard it in real
53:28
life before. I'd only heard it on that
53:29
episode of The Simpsons where Lisa is bought
53:31
a pony and Homer takes her to a
53:34
pony club and the the woman there speaks
53:37
it. But um, it's dying out now. I
53:39
mean, nobody really uses it now. But that's
53:40
an example of it. Yeah, it's an example
53:42
of this c of this cultural crib. I
53:43
think that is irrelevant to what they've done
53:45
to Ireland because it's turbocharged. In 2002, when
53:48
I first went to Ireland, it was just
53:49
overwhelmingly white. And by
53:52
2013, uh, when I went to a part
53:55
of Dublin near Temple Bar, there was Nigerians
53:58
all over the place.
54:00
You know, the one thing we have uh
54:02
the the all the gloom and doom over
54:04
Trump, I think, is probably more
54:07
um imagined than real. I think it
54:11
really did hurt him to go into two
54:13
wars so far, and he's got a third
54:14
one on tap in in in uh Cuba.
54:17
But I think what's happened over the course
54:19
of the last two years is that the
54:21
Americans have seen what their own people were
54:23
doing to them to them with um
54:27
uh uh open borders, with the fraud that
54:30
seems to be uh endemic in in
54:34
immigrant circles. Um so I think
54:37
there's still gonna be a chance at least
54:39
that he holds the Congress because people are
54:41
gonna look around and say, we're gonna put
54:43
the same people in who beat us out
54:45
of $15 billion on on uh uh uh
54:49
medical care.
54:51
It's it's um it's not only one case,
54:55
Michael. Yeah $15 billion. I mean, there's billions
54:58
and every day you you you don't you're
55:00
not watching Twitter because you're not on there,
55:02
but you could look at Twitter every day,
55:04
and it's another case of either an Indian
55:07
or a Pakistani who has uh defrauded
55:10
and embezzled the government of billions of dollars
55:13
in Medicaid. Yeah. And there was that case
55:16
it'd been associated with the Somalis. Oh yes.
55:19
These are fanish tribal people that will operate
55:22
in their own interests in a way that
55:25
um white people don't for two reasons. One,
55:28
because what the white what is a white
55:30
person in the United States is divide is
55:32
divided. There's all kinds of white people, Italian
55:34
Americans, Polish Americans, English Americans,
55:37
whatever. Um, whereas these people have very specific
55:40
ethnic groups that are closely related to each
55:43
other. Um and that and that genetic similarity
55:46
theory will predict that they will therefore behave
55:48
very strongly uh in their own interests. Um
55:54
Utah, that they are overwhelmingly English. The
55:58
white people in Utah are overwhelmingly English. I
56:01
don't know if that helps them in any
56:03
way, but uh that there was a time
56:05
when there were more uh Mormons in England
56:07
than there were in America, and then uh
56:11
and then uh Brigham Young told them to
56:13
all come to Salt Lake City, and so
56:16
they did. So it's genetically very, very English.
56:19
But even somewhere like that is changing. But
56:22
it's it's I I think I suspect that
56:24
the same thing that's gonna happen in the
56:26
UK is gonna happen in America, which is
56:28
a gradual uh parallel society being
56:31
set up. In some ways, in America, you're
56:33
a lot further down the road. You have
56:34
a lot of people that homeschool, yes, uh,
56:37
which is basically a parallel society that rejects
56:39
being inculcated with the dominant worldview for their
56:42
for their children. Obviously, the the Amish are
56:45
a total parallel society, well, pretty much. Um
56:47
they did they do do some trade with
56:49
the English, they learn to drive in rum
56:51
springer and become car mechanics, things like that.
56:54
But uh you're gonna get more of that,
56:56
I think, uh, as uh and and protection
56:58
rackets as we just lose trust in
57:01
uh in the in the left-wing infested system.
57:04
And in some ways, in England it's it's
57:06
worse than that because in America you have
57:08
different states, and some of these uh they're
57:11
effectively countries that have all of the they
57:13
all have all of the corollaries. Yeah, many
57:16
countries, yes, exactly. And therefore, yeah, they even
57:18
have their own armies and things like that,
57:19
and some of these are right wing, uh,
57:22
increasingly Florida and Texas, and you have people
57:25
in California, particularly Northern California, which is more
57:28
conservative, uh moving to these places, and and
57:32
so it's creating this this separation. But in
57:35
England, you don't really have that, you just
57:37
have the Scottish Parliament, the Welsh Parliament, the
57:39
London Assembly, and the Parliament at Westminster uh
57:42
that has actual power.
57:45
Michael, what happened to your computer? I hear
57:47
sweat. What happened? Did the keyboard fall? I
57:50
can hear you. Oh, okay. No, I it
57:52
sounded like the keyboard fell or something. Oh
57:54
no, I don't hear anything. Oh, you don't
57:57
hear it, but I heard it. Okay, okay,
57:59
no problem.
58:01
Okay, go ahead. All right, so here, you
58:04
know, Ed, you mentioned before George Wallace.
58:07
Um I was younger than voting age at
58:11
the time, but I knew between my older
58:13
brothers
58:15
and uh yeah, I hear something more. Okay,
58:18
whatever it is. Anyway, I at that time
58:21
I remember when he was running, people in
58:24
New York actually voted for him, and that
58:26
was a northern state. There was a lot
58:28
of first-time voters who wanted Wallace. Oh,
58:31
I didn't know he even stood in the
58:33
northern states. I thought he understood it.
58:35
Well, he did.
58:37
In the primaries, I think.
58:39
Yeah, the primaries, they were the primaries.
58:45
Yeah, but then he was shot and he
58:46
had a religious experience. Yeah, he had the
58:49
experience, he had to say, I'm sorry.
58:52
Yeah. That's what happens when you get paralyzed,
58:55
you know? Yeah, I mean you get brain
58:57
done. Yeah, and then and we're still there
58:59
today. I mean, you have um you have
59:02
the the young Americans uh who
59:05
believe that they're they're they're entitled,
59:09
even though they're eight generations removed from slavery,
59:12
that they have to have some kind of
59:13
reparations, although 15 trillion dollars plus,
59:17
since LBJ's Great Society, yeah, didn't do the
59:20
trick to help them, you know. Okay, what
59:22
about the reparations for the destruction of Detroit
59:25
in the late 60s?
59:28
What about the repar reparations for the Los
59:31
Angeles riots? What about the reparations for the
59:35
BLM riots? What about I mean come on,
59:38
fair's fair. Yeah, yeah. If people demand
59:40
reparations, then I would think that uh those
59:44
people uh have cost uh the American state
59:47
quite a lot of money. Um, trillions.
59:51
Trillions, trillions of dollars. And just yesterday there
59:54
was a here what was it? It was
59:56
a uh conviction of a man who just
59:59
a young man who decided to uh uh
1:00:01
kill a white man, you know, uh a
1:00:04
couple of years back. He finally got the
1:00:05
trial, 35 years instead of life in prison,
1:00:08
and they said it was racist. Uh that
1:00:11
he took it over the way.
1:00:13
I think I think people are getting tired
1:00:14
of it now. It's this magic word which
1:00:17
has had this power over us for such
1:00:20
a long time. And we're not, I don't
1:00:23
think hardly anyone is uh is genuinely racist
1:00:26
these days. I I've been I live stream
1:00:28
with a Jamaican once a week. I I
1:00:31
I I by the way, I don't do
1:00:33
it because he's Jamaican, I just do it
1:00:35
because he's intelligent. And and um, so I
1:00:38
this idea of people people have had enough
1:00:40
of this. And in in the UK, how
1:00:41
you have the same thing that first of
1:00:43
all, let's be clear, it was high-status sub-Saharan
1:00:46
Africans that sold these slaves.
1:00:49
Thank you.
1:00:51
So it wasn't like it wasn't like you
1:00:53
see that image in what's that uh TV
1:00:55
series, roots
1:00:57
hanging around on the beach and they get
1:00:58
grabbed. No, these were defeated uh
1:01:02
women and children normally, not men, uh um
1:01:04
from another tribe, and they were sold by
1:01:07
that tribe. And they're still doing it, Ed,
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they're still doing it today in Africa. You
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could see them, they round them up.
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Yeah, it's it's we're all well, I would
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say it's not true to say we're all
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descended from slaves, but but because in general
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those slaves had quite low fertility. They would
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but if those slaves uh that went to
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America had instead been taken by the Barbaries,
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by the that they would have gone to
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North Africa and the men would have been
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castrated.
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So um
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it could have been a lot worse.
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But no, we we need to move beyond
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that. And I I can only it takes
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a lot, it takes a lot for a
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fundamentally outward-looking, high in openness,
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high agreeable people, i.e. European people,
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to uh to move beyond that, particularly when
1:01:52
they're surrounded by low mortality, salience, and wealth,
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um, and and their instincts don't hit in.
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And one of those things is just the
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chaos that we're seeing, and it's it's just
1:02:02
worse and worse and worse. And so I
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think that we're seeing the beginnings of a
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shift.
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Thank you. That's well well, I hope it
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happens. Mike, you want to wrap it up?
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Yep, and and just before we go, do
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you have a new book out? I do,
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I have a number of books actually. I've
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got all the books. Where are they? Put
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them on the screen, please. Where are they?
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Go get them. Oh, all right. Well, I
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don't know when we when we last spoke,
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how long ago was it? Oh, it's a
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while. We have to look back to the
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outside.
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All right, well, it's uh there's there's there's
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there's this one, um the Quaker
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question exposing the sexual.
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Uncle Ben. Um where I argue that so
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Quakers are a highly nefarious force, far worse
1:02:45
than the Jews, that everyone goes on about.
1:02:47
Um, and then there's this one, uh genius
1:02:49
under house arrest, the cancellation of James Watson.
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And uh, and that looks at how the
1:02:54
cancellation of James Watson was a turning point
1:02:57
in civilization, where we went from being pro-genius
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and trying to help geniuses, to being anti-genius,
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and that this is a very, very bad
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thing, and we have to we have to
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reverse it. Um, just so you know, when
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you just mentioned the Quakers, um, in the
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in the documentary The American Revolution, which has
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got a lot of uh woke in it
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too, by Ken Burns, they they
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tell you that the Quakers who sided with
1:03:22
the key the British loyalists were
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hung when the colonists came back into
1:03:28
Pennsylvania. Interesting fact. Well, as
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my i my understanding was that a lot
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of the Quakers refused to fight
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at all. Um, and and so then you've
1:03:38
got a group called the Free Quakers that
1:03:40
broke away and said, No, America is the
1:03:42
potential heaven on earth, and we have to
1:03:44
fight for it to be separate from Britain.
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So, and then when the Quakers, of course,
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they took over Pennsylvania, uh, and but
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when they were being invaded by Native Americans,
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and the government refused to do anything. Um,
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and eventually the the government of the government
1:04:01
of uh Pennsylvania was overturned for that for
1:04:04
that reason. So no, it's it's not good
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to be run by Quakers, at least
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it's just not Nixon Mike. Wasn't Nixon's
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mom a Quaker? Yeah, Nixon in his family
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was a Quaker, yes. His family were Quaker,
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yeah, but uh he wasn't a particularly committed
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Quaker. No, no,
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he was he was he was a he
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was a quite neurotic guy who let Kissinger
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lead him.
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I think that's probably fair. Yeah, yeah. Ed
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Dutton, it's always great talking to you, sir.
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Come back more often.