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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Wenstrup, Dave Taylor , Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Five o five a fifty five KRC the talk station.
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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Tuesday, some sill.
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Speaker 1: A vacation, Woo, it's Friday. Guaranteed that that going on.
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Speaker 1: I thank you Joe Strekker for the SoundBite. Puts a
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Speaker 1: smile on my face, as a Friday always does. I
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Speaker 1: hope you have great, great plans for this weekend. Brian
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Speaker 1: Thomas my name, hosted the fifty five KRSE Morning Show,
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad to be and glad to have Joe
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Speaker 1: Strekker executive producer for the fifty five Carsey Morning Show.
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Speaker 1: Without Joe, there wouldn't be a show period coming up.
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Speaker 1: Speaking to Joe Strekker and things that he does a
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Speaker 1: four us US all collectively Tech Friday with Day of
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Speaker 1: Hatter every Friday six thirty love talking to Day frightening
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Speaker 1: sometimes he Dave's advice, as I always point out, and
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Speaker 1: the company that will get your business out of trouble
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Speaker 1: to the extent you find yourself at Eddie Flock Flock
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Speaker 1: the cameras. According today, first subject police are using surveillance
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Speaker 1: technology to stalk love interests kind of came up the
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Speaker 1: other day with Signal ninety nine. Apparently using the private
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Speaker 1: they can run your license plate, they can find out
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Speaker 1: where you live, but you can only do it in
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Speaker 1: connection with police work. You don't do it to look
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Speaker 1: up oh I don't know former girlfriends or I don't
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Speaker 1: know friends and making appointments whatever Signal ninety I was
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Speaker 1: talking about yesterday, if you didn't get a chance to
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Speaker 1: listen SIGNA ninety nine, always blowing the little off as
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Speaker 1: Shenanigan's going on in the Greater Cincinnati area. Find the
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Speaker 1: podcast forty five Carsy Doctor topic number two. Maryland is
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Speaker 1: the first US state to ban what they call surveillance pricing.
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Speaker 1: If I recall correctly, I believe that is when the
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Speaker 1: well people selling you things check out where your zip
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Speaker 1: code is, what kind of money you make, all the
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Speaker 1: information they can gather online and determine how much you
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Speaker 1: can afford to pay. One size does not fit all
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Speaker 1: when it comes to pricing, plus the fake it worker problem,
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Speaker 1: those are subjects today with Tech Friday's Dave had Or
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Speaker 1: coming up at six point thirty, follow by an hour
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Speaker 1: with you know, it's so weird. Private Citizen brad Winstrip,
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Speaker 1: former Congressman brad winster Bey in studio and since he
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Speaker 1: has intelligence clearance, will kind of get his analysis of
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Speaker 1: maybe some of the discussions we had with Jijen Ping
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Speaker 1: yesterday or the Donald Trump had with Jijen Ping yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Taiwan kind of came up on the periphery. Apparently no
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Speaker 1: agreement there between the two countries. Anyway, he'll be in
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Speaker 1: studio and it's kind of weird. I was coming to
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Speaker 1: the show this morning. I didn't know he's going to
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Speaker 1: be in and I was thinking of brad Winstrip. It's
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Speaker 1: like man even talked to Brad for a while. Radar
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Speaker 1: love Joe, well done. Congressman David Taylor, his name came
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Speaker 1: up yesterday. I got a comment or two about yesterday.
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Speaker 1: What an amazing day for me. And I'll explain for
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Speaker 1: that in the moment. David Taylor at eight oh five
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Speaker 1: Friends of the Cincinnati Classical Academy. Apparently that's my topic
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Speaker 1: I want to dive into. In a second, we'll talk
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Speaker 1: to him about the primary of course, Iran and China.
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Speaker 1: Some reports whirling around about the well conflict with iron
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Speaker 1: depleting our already limited military resources. They're cutting back their
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Speaker 1: belt tightening, and they need money to fund the war.
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Speaker 1: We'll Congress step up and fund the war. Will the
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Speaker 1: Pentagon actually submit a request for funding? Apparently that's going
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Speaker 1: on in the background as well. Variety of things talk
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Speaker 1: about with David Taylor at eight five and then it's Friday,
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Speaker 1: so eight thirty with Jack Windsor from the Isle Press Network. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the Ohio Medicaid scandal right there up front, with all
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Speaker 1: the reportings swirling around in oh Look, Governor to Wine
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Speaker 1: finally woke up, huh suspending medicaid payments to providers that
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Speaker 1: show red flags for fraud.
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Speaker 3: WHOA?
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Speaker 1: How about that Keith favored in an autoback in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four red flagged all kinds of problems with the
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Speaker 1: medicaid program, problems that have been known and reported widely
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Speaker 1: for quite a few years. And finally Governor Wine step
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Speaker 1: it up with an executive order to try to crack
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Speaker 1: down on him. Appreciate the effort there, covern to Wine,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the party. We'll also talk about how ed
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Speaker 1: Choice program and that's where I wanted to start with
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Speaker 1: the Sinsini Classical Academy, which I had the just absolute
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Speaker 1: privilege of visiting the Sincini Classical Academy yesterday. Doctor Jed Hardings,
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Speaker 1: who's the founder of it, the guy that came up
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Speaker 1: with the idea of launching the sinsint Classical Academy, classical education.
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Speaker 1: Put down your cell phones, put down your computers, let's
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Speaker 1: open a book traditional learning. And you know what, before
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Speaker 1: the school even started, there were people lined up around
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Speaker 1: the block. If you build it, they will come. And
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Speaker 1: what a great illustration of that. These children are absolute treasures, behaved, polite,
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Speaker 1: friendly smiles on their faces in the hallway, in the classroom,
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Speaker 1: I watched them interact with the teachers. I talked about
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Speaker 1: the education system class school. I learned a lot about it.
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Speaker 1: I learned the trials and tribulations that doctor Harding and
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Speaker 1: the others who spent countless hours of their own time unpaid,
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Speaker 1: launched this amazing institute of learning have to fight the teachers'
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Speaker 1: union every single step of the way. If I recall correctly,
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Speaker 1: and doctor Harding, I apologize if I got the number wrong.
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Speaker 1: I think they looked at seventy plus properties to house
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Speaker 1: the school, and every time they showed up and wanted
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Speaker 1: to pursue purchasing one of these properties, the teachers union
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Speaker 1: would come in and launch all kinds of hell and
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Speaker 1: stand in the way of them acquiring a building. Why
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Speaker 1: because they don't want the competition. And they realized that
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Speaker 1: demand is huge and this transcends political ideology. Parents want
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Speaker 1: a great foundation for their children. Parents realized that that
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Speaker 1: foundation is not being provided in public schools. Parents realized
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Speaker 1: their children need a strong moral and ethical grounding, and
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Speaker 1: that is what the Sinsinni Classical Academy. That's what they
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Speaker 1: preach every single day. You get through the since Ani
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Speaker 1: Classical Academy, you'll see lockers just like any other school, lockers,
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Speaker 1: rows and rows of them. You know what they don't
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Speaker 1: have on them locks. Every child in the school has
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Speaker 1: his or her own locker. And they even encourage me
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Speaker 1: to go ahead open one up, you know, thinking that
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Speaker 1: I was going to believe there was nothing in there
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Speaker 1: because there was no locks on the lockers. No, every
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Speaker 1: single one of them is packed with books and belongings,
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Speaker 1: personal and otherwise, just like every kid has in a
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Speaker 1: public school. You know, damn well, those are locked no
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Speaker 1: one K through nine, next year, be K through ten,
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Speaker 1: all the way K through twelve. Every year they're adding
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Speaker 1: an additional student, additional class. No one steals, no one.
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Speaker 1: That to me puts is just a huge exclamation point
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Speaker 1: on the morality that is taught there. And the children
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Speaker 1: are brillian. I believe it was a kindergarten classroom I
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Speaker 1: was in. They're already learning the foundations for multiplication students
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Speaker 1: from I recall the website for CINCINNTI Classical. I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to give them a plug. I am not paid
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Speaker 1: for this, and I don't get any benefit from this
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Speaker 1: other than steering people in the right direction to get
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Speaker 1: your children on the right step to success in life.
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Speaker 1: Since you with the y classical dot org, check out
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Speaker 1: their curriculum, read about it. What's the why is classical
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Speaker 1: education important every single day? Ethics, morality, reading, traditional mathematics
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Speaker 1: and it works. So thank you doctor Jed Hardings, Russ
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Speaker 1: Neville and Tanya Ford for inviting me there and touring it.
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Speaker 1: And this is a winning issue. I think there are
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Speaker 1: seventy seven zip codes. There are family and you're responsible
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Speaker 1: for your own travel. There is no tuition at Cincinnati Classical.
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Speaker 1: Mind you, my wife, you find out how much the
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Speaker 1: tuition is over there, and I ask us she was
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Speaker 1: told that it was forty thousand dollars a year. No zero.
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Speaker 1: You had a couple of families actually move into the
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Speaker 1: area of the neighborhood the school district surrounding since Classical,
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Speaker 1: because apparently there's some law or statue of the books
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Speaker 1: that requires Cincinnati Classical to prioritize a certain percentage of people.
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Speaker 1: Because it's a lottery to get in, hundreds and hundreds
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Speaker 1: of families try and unsuccessfully get in because it's a
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Speaker 1: straight old lottery. They moved into the neighborhood. A couple
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Speaker 1: of families actually rent an apartment so they could be domiciled,
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Speaker 1: so they would have priority to get in, to help them,
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Speaker 1: help them maybe get in, successfully get in the lottery,
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Speaker 1: or win the lottery. Seventy seven zip codes or families
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Speaker 1: that travel and you arrange for their own transportation New Richmond.
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Speaker 1: And since a Classical is right off Ronald Reagan Highway
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Speaker 1: Huser Reid Hartman, New Richmond, Oxford, there's a family at
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Speaker 1: least one every single day a seventy minute commute from Hillsboro.
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Speaker 1: Just so their children can enjoy the benefits of this
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Speaker 1: amazing learning institution. People standing around the corner waitlisting. That's
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Speaker 1: a metaphor, but there are hundreds of families that would
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Speaker 1: love to go there. If you build it, they will come.
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Speaker 1: And there were more people than they had spots for
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Speaker 1: when the school opened up. Does that speak volumes to
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Speaker 1: you about the demand that's out there. And the teachers
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Speaker 1: Union knew damn well at the outset of this they
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Speaker 1: were going to have competition from Cincinntai Classical and they
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Speaker 1: got it. And the children that leave Sincinnty Classical, I
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Speaker 1: cannot imagine them not being successful in life. You know,
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Speaker 1: as I saw this article, Princeton University, they had an
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Speaker 1: honor code up until a moment in time ago. The
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Speaker 1: Honor coade is still there. There was no proctering at
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Speaker 1: Princeton University. No teachers stood in the room or they
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Speaker 1: took exams until just a moment t time ago. You
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Speaker 1: had to sign a after the final exam, you had
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Speaker 1: to sign down a pledge that you did not cheat,
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Speaker 1: you did not observe anybody cheating, and therefore everyone's held
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Speaker 1: to a higher standard. At least that was the thought
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Speaker 1: Well faculty voted to require proctering for all in person
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Speaker 1: exams beginning of the summer. Why artificial intelligence people are cheating?
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Speaker 1: They have computers in the classroom. When it comes time
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Speaker 1: to take the exam, kids are launching AI to help
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Speaker 1: them get through the exam. Oh my god, I'm shocked.
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Speaker 1: I'm shocked if I'm gambling going on in here and
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Speaker 1: students are afraid to report it. They're supposed to, under
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Speaker 1: the obligation of Princeton's ethical rules, report any cheating to
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Speaker 1: the administration of the faculty. They don't want to do
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Speaker 1: it because well, you know, being called out on social
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Speaker 1: media the one that ratted out the other classmates, so
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Speaker 1: it's expected there. It was reported they did survey like
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Speaker 1: thirty percent actually admitted to cheating at the university. So
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Speaker 1: now they have proctors in the exams. You know what
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Speaker 1: they have it since a classical How about no computers. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: now they appreciate their role as technology. But to use technology,
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Speaker 1: you have to have to have the foundation of logic
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Speaker 1: and reasoning. You have to have basic book reading, note taking, discussiing, debating,
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Speaker 1: Socratic method. I love that they deliver speeches the children
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Speaker 1: actually engage in building projects and accomplishing things. It's not
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Speaker 1: just like some sort of student council that they have
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Speaker 1: representatives at your regular high school that really can't do anything.
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Speaker 1: They have children in ninth grade organizing building, leaving a
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Speaker 1: lasting legacy ats insie classical academy opportunities that do not
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Speaker 1: exist in other schools. Children take the ball and run
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Speaker 1: with it. They're little sponges, and they know that it's
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Speaker 1: insani classical challenge them. Give them difficult reading and writing
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Speaker 1: and mathematical assignments. They'll accomplish it. They'll do it, and
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Speaker 1: then at some point you'll be able to use the
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Speaker 1: technology of your advantage, because of course technology can be
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Speaker 1: used to your advantage, but you do not want to
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Speaker 1: rely on it at the outset, because well, it just
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Speaker 1: does the work for you. So you don't see screens,
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Speaker 1: you don't see cell phones. You see teachers in front
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Speaker 1: of a classroom, teaching groups of really truly engaged young people,
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Speaker 1: important life skills, the foundation the building blocks of a future.
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Speaker 1: And I was blown away by it, absolutely blown away
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Speaker 1: by it. And I can only hope and pray for
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Speaker 1: the future of America that more of these Cincinnati classical
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Speaker 1: type schools crow show up. They're they're affiliated with Hillsdale College,
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Speaker 1: same kind of curriculum, which in and of itself is
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Speaker 1: an amazing place as far as the university goes. Given
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Speaker 1: the demand that is out there, as demonstrated by CINCINNTI
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Speaker 1: classical success, that's a big bold please open another one
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Speaker 1: message to anybody out there who has the intestinal fortitude
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Speaker 1: and the ability to bring about a vision Like doctor
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Speaker 1: Jed Hardings. He was going to do it and there
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Speaker 1: was nothing that was going to stand in his way.
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Speaker 1: And there's some divine element floating around within the establishment
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Speaker 1: of Sin Sant Classical Academy. They are so perilously close
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Speaker 1: to not being able to develop the school doctor Harding's
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Speaker 1: dream not coming true or being fulfilled. But every step
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Speaker 1: along the way when they met were met with challenges.
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Speaker 1: When obstacles and roadblocks like teachers' union fighting the existence
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Speaker 1: of the school's foundation stood in their way, it always
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Speaker 1: ended up working out in what an amazing success story
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Speaker 1: has been. Encourage anybody who has the opportunity like I
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Speaker 1: to visit that amazing school to take them up on it,
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Speaker 1: because your mind will be blown. And I pointed it
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Speaker 1: out yesterday. It's almost as if my faith in humanity
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Speaker 1: had been restored by those wonderful people who care so
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Speaker 1: Oh to Jason Riley on school choice, which should be
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Speaker 1: a Republican and Democrat embraced issue because everybody wants it,
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Speaker 1: as that the statistics bear out. It's one of those
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Speaker 1: almost eight twenty issues. Run on school choice, you will win,
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Speaker 1: and Democrats are kind of figuring this out reluctant to
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Speaker 1: do so. Jason Riley points out Republican candidates looking for
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Speaker 1: an issue November with broad bipartisan support might consider taking
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Speaker 1: up school choice, poor quality, or our K through twelve system,
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Speaker 1: particularly in large urban districts, he writes, is a perennial
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Speaker 1: voter concern. Yeah, good public schools exist, but they tend
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Speaker 1: to be in communities where only the better off can
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Speaker 1: afford to live. Affluent family families who don't like their
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Speaker 1: local options use private schools or relocate.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 1: Poor families are relegated to schools where most children can't
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Speaker 1: read or do math at grade level. How can that
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Speaker 1: possibly be? Democrats and their teacher union confederates have been
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Speaker 1: calling the shots on education policy for decades, and they've
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Speaker 1: chosen to perpetuate a system that everyone knows is disproportionately
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Speaker 1: harmful to underprivileged minorities. Republicans haven't spent nearly enough time
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Speaker 1: talking about this, but now's the chance. One big beautiful
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Speaker 1: bill signed in a law by Trump created Federal School
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Speaker 1: Tax CUDIT program dollar for dollar tax cut it up
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Speaker 1: to seventeen dollars seventeen hundred dollars to anyone who donates.
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Speaker 1: That will be you, private citizen, don't donating to a
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Speaker 1: private organization and you get a tax credit for doing
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Speaker 1: the donation begett next year. Eligible families can spend that
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Speaker 1: money on tuition at private schools, religious schools, or put
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Speaker 1: it toward textbooks, tutoring services, after school programs, and other
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Speaker 1: education related expenses, i e. Low income families that have
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Speaker 1: more choices akin to what wealthier families already enjoy. The
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Speaker 1: best feature of the tax credit program might turn out
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Speaker 1: to be its design. States have to opt in, and
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Speaker 1: most Republican run states have already done that. Most Democratic
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Speaker 1: governors have been reluctant, reflecting the left's knee jerk opposition
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Speaker 1: to anything Trump supports, but also demonstrating the influence of teachers.
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Speaker 1: Unions would steadfastly opposed school choice, most notably for low
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Speaker 1: income children, because it threatens their control of public education.
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Speaker 1: Unions and other opponents of the school choice like to
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Speaker 1: say that tax credits, charter schools and vouchers divert resources
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Speaker 1: to harm traditional public schools, But the federal scholarship program
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Speaker 1: won't cost states to time operates through voluntary or private donation,
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Speaker 1: requiring no state funds, and if states decide not to participate,
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Speaker 1: their residents can still claim the tax credit but the
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Speaker 1: money will end up underwriting scholarship programs in other states.
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Speaker 1: The only question for blue states is when they want
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Speaker 1: to turn down free money that would otherwise go to
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Speaker 1: red states that have already opted in. Last week, New
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Speaker 1: York Governor Kathy Hockel became the second Democratic governor after
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Speaker 1: Colorado's Jared Paulus, opted in the program. Better news is
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Speaker 1: that New York probably won't be the last Blue state
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Speaker 1: to do so, and Deeberssher and Kansas's Laura Kelly vetoed
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Speaker 1: opt in legislation overridden though by GOP controlled state legislators. Hmmm,
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Speaker 1: Hockel didn't face that opposition in New York, and yet
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Speaker 1: she did it anyway. How about that? But she's up
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Speaker 1: for re election this year and kind of held out
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Speaker 1: opting in the federal scholarship program until after her primary
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Speaker 1: opponent dropped out. Riley writes, this isn't exactly a profile encourage,
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Speaker 1: but it does suggest that some Democrats in big blue
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Speaker 1: states are coming around to the U that's spurning federal
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Speaker 1: dollars while pushing for tax increases happens to be a
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Speaker 1: bad look, and here is the point. They might also
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Speaker 1: conclude that the wrath of voters is worth than the
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Speaker 1: wrath of teachers' unions. And Emerson College survey last year
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Speaker 1: put over all support for the tax credit program at
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Speaker 1: sixty four percent, including sixty one percent of Democrats and
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Speaker 1: sixty eight percent of Hispanics and sixty three percent of blacks.
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Speaker 1: Not exactly eighty twenty, but that's an overwhelming number. Argument
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Speaker 1: that school choice diverse education resources has always been a
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Speaker 1: red herring to the extended Students leave traditional public schools
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Speaker 1: for a charter school or a private school and take
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Speaker 1: the per pupil expenditure with them. It's true, but it
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Speaker 1: also means the former school has fewer students to educate,
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Speaker 1: and public schools do not immediately lose funding when enrollment declines. Moreover,
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Speaker 1: school spending and staffing has increased dramatically in recent years,
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Speaker 1: even while enrollment has steadily declined, meaning traditional public schools
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Speaker 1: now have even more money to educate fewer students. New
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Speaker 1: York Times report this month the number of students attending
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Speaker 1: K through twelve public schools has fallen in thirty states
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Speaker 1: since the mid twenty tens. It's increasingly absurd to blame
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Speaker 1: the lack of funding for poor student outcomes. Parents want options,
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Speaker 1: and it's mainly Democrats who are standing in the way.
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Speaker 1: This is an issue Republicans should exploit. Shame on them
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Speaker 1: if they waste the opportunity. Amen, Jason Riley perfectly time
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Speaker 1: op ed piece after my visit was Cincinnati Classical Academy yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Local stories coming up, folks. Phone calls are always welcome.
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Speaker 1: on a Thursday. Not to discount anybody else, but I
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Speaker 1: out of it. Also enjoyed talking with Tom. Is you
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Speaker 1: on the phone, Joe. We're gonna take Tom's call this morning. Yeah, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Joe's catching up with Tom right now. There he is, Tom,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Morning Show. Happy Friday, brother.
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Speaker 6: Uh, well, I don't know how happy it is. It's
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Speaker 6: kind of I don't even know if there's any sweetness
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Speaker 6: to it's kind of better.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 6: I just I just put the I just put the
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Speaker 6: moving truck in gear like a minute ago, pulling away
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Speaker 6: from from the house here in Cincinnati and driving my
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Speaker 6: daughter's moving truck. She's I don't know, one hundred yards
20:32
Speaker 6: ahead of me, uh, her mom or and we're we
20:36
Speaker 6: are heading west and uh taking her to taking her
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Speaker 6: to I can't believe I'm saying this. I'm taking my
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Speaker 6: daughter to California.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh that's I feel your pain.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, terrible and uh.
20:49
Speaker 1: The loss of having your your your daughter not even
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Speaker 1: far away from you. I feel that. Man. When our
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Speaker 1: daughter moved away, it was heartbreaking, brother, Yeah it was.
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Speaker 6: I had my emotional breakdown back uh several years ago
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Speaker 6: when she left for the first time.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, we got.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, this is supposed the way it's
21:13
Speaker 6: supposed to be. Maybe not this far away, but you
21:16
Speaker 6: know it's the way it's supposed to be. They're supposed
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Speaker 6: to move out and make a life of their own
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Speaker 6: and do their thing. And and uh, you know that
21:22
Speaker 6: school you were talking about, I'm sure they got some
21:24
Speaker 6: out in California just like it.
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Speaker 8: Right.
21:28
Speaker 6: Whatever, So uh yeah, she's going out there to start
21:33
Speaker 6: a start a new life out there, and uh you know, uh,
21:37
Speaker 6: I just I pray for her. Just kids. But man,
21:40
Speaker 6: move back, move back, move back to East if you
21:43
Speaker 6: got kids, because man, you imagine raising children in California. No,
21:48
Speaker 6: I can't even I can't even.
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Speaker 1: Imagine the hostile wing out there, Lord Almighty. I hope
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Speaker 1: she's making fat bank.
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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yeah, well yeah, well she'll work all that out.
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Speaker 6: I guess. You know, these kids, they grow up, You
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Speaker 6: teach them how to make decisions and and then you
22:03
Speaker 6: gotta let them do it, you know. And uh so
22:05
Speaker 6: that's that's the way it is. So uh but you
22:09
Speaker 6: just start scratching your head on some of the decisions.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 6: Wait, wait a minute, we talked about it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Well God bless her, and that's the luck
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Speaker 1: to your daughter, my friend.
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Speaker 8: I truly mean that I appreciate.
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Speaker 6: It's gonna be a gonna be a nice long drive.
22:23
Speaker 6: So uh we're due. I have a plane to catch
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Speaker 6: Monday morning at LAX. So that's my target. As long
22:29
Speaker 6: as I get on that plane coming back Monday morning,
22:31
Speaker 6: I'm everything's all.
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Speaker 1: Good right, And I don't want to hear. I don't
22:35
Speaker 1: want to hear about your flight in iHeartMedia aviation expert
22:38
Speaker 1: Jay Ratlofs report on Thursday.
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Speaker 6: No, we don't. We don't want that, and what what
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Speaker 6: one lesson? I hope my daughter cheeps weather the whole
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Speaker 6: time she's out there. Don't vote Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Brian, you too, and she will
22:52
Speaker 1: be like me when I lived in Chicago. It's like
22:54
Speaker 1: a lone voice in the wilderness. But that's okay. I
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Speaker 1: stuck to my principles and I ignored all the idiots
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Speaker 1: that I surround by the whole time I was there
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Speaker 1: Gate of Hat. See the talk station, Can you play
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Speaker 1: out of town. Tom And with a stack is stupid
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Speaker 1: in front of me, and it's Friday. Of course, most
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Speaker 1: listeners who regularly listen though, it's time for naked people
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Speaker 1: in the news.
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Speaker 4: As this tradition thank you cho was kind.
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Speaker 1: Of affecting that. That's got a member. Murder Beach, South Carolina,
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Speaker 1: where a man was arrested after punching a police officer
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Speaker 1: in the face. The guy, David Ray Bordeaux, thirty six,
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Speaker 1: charged with assaulting while resisting arrest off showed up to
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Speaker 1: mister Joe White Avenue right there, Warren Street. I know
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Speaker 1: man reportedly pacing around naked, yelling in a disorderly manner.
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Speaker 1: He was yelling in a disorderly manner made perhaps an
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Speaker 1: officer began to place him under arrest. He started punching
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Speaker 1: the officers, striking him in the lip. According reports, he's now,
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Speaker 1: of course in jail the J. Reuben Long Detention Center,
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Speaker 1: and he's under a twenty thousand dollars bond. Clearly not
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Speaker 1: in front of a judge in Hamilton County, where he
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Speaker 1: would have been out on his own recognizance. Let's see
24:38
Speaker 1: going down REDEO with his shotgun. Not in this case.
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Speaker 1: We're going down Berkeley, Berkeley. While police identified the suspect
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Speaker 1: in this particular case, thirty five year old Edward Tisse,
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Speaker 1: described as a naked man with a shotgun who ran
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Speaker 1: into the Berkeley Tesla repair shop, tackled by a police
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Speaker 1: officer after charging at him. Berkeley police got several calls
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Speaker 1: about seven thirty in the morning, this naked about this
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Speaker 1: naked guy running down the street smashing windows. Why are
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Speaker 1: you doing that? I don't know if we're gonna find
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Speaker 1: out me. While responding there, callers said the man had
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Speaker 1: a shotgun and had gone inside the Tesla service center
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Speaker 1: and was pointing the weapon a people. Thinking there was
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Speaker 1: an active shooter, a number of people ran outside in fear.
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Speaker 1: Officers set up a perimeter. The man burst out of
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Speaker 1: the front door screening, holding the shotgun in his hand.
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Speaker 1: Police ordered him to stop, but he kept running in
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Speaker 1: their direction. Accord to police, the officer who was in
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Speaker 1: the man's sight took cover behind a pillar and then
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Speaker 1: managed to tackle him when he got close. Lucky didn't die.
25:36
Speaker 1: Several other officers worked to restrain and handcuff the man
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Speaker 1: once inside the Tesla or pair shop. No one rather
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Speaker 1: it was hurt and employees obviously shaken up. Police seize
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Speaker 1: the man's shotgun is evidence and obtained a gun violence
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Speaker 1: restraining order to keep him from having weapons. Also got
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Speaker 1: a search warrant for his warehouse, where they discovered evidence
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Speaker 1: that the suspect had discharged this shotgun several times. Thank you, Joe.
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Speaker 1: Ed Edward Tiss of Berkeley arrested in suspicion of assault
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Speaker 1: with a firearm, carrying a loaded firearm in public, wilfully
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Speaker 1: discharging a firearm in a negligent manner. Police obviously thankful
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Speaker 1: that no one was hurt. Naked man with a shotgun.
26:22
Speaker 1: Oh this doesn't count, Joe, it's half naked man. What Richmond, Virginia,
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Speaker 1: where Chesterfield Police arrested a man accused of vandalizing property
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Speaker 1: at the Chesterfield Courthouse while only partially dressed. Thirty nine
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Speaker 1: year old Andrew Stillerman now facing felony charges for destruction
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Speaker 1: of property a misdemeanor charge of vandalism. In addition to
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Speaker 1: the courthouse incident, They believe he may also be responsible
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Speaker 1: vandalizing the Chesterfield County Central Library, a local restaurant, and
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Speaker 1: committing a theft at the convenience store. No word on
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Speaker 1: whether he committed those defenses while naked. He was arrested. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and back at it again on a Friday. Teachers having
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Speaker 1: sex with students, this one in Atlanta, Georgia. High school
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Speaker 1: teacher arrested after she allegedly had sex with one of
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Speaker 1: her students. And it's always women, Joe, what is with
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Speaker 1: women teachers? Maris Nichols, twenty five year old teacher at
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Speaker 1: Alexander High School in Douglasville, now facing two counts of
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Speaker 1: sexual assault by a person with supervisory or disciplinary authority.
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Speaker 1: Booked Friday, not granted bond. According to authorities, she allegedly
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Speaker 1: had intercourse with the same student on two separate occasions,
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Speaker 1: April twenty third, inside the school closet and May second,
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Speaker 1: inside a car at the end of a driveway in
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Speaker 1: one of the communities there. Douglas School County System said
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Speaker 1: in a statement was deeply troubled by allegations against an
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Speaker 1: individual associated with one of our schools. Of course, legal
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Speaker 1: departments sent that one out, and of course the student
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Speaker 1: safety is the district's highest priority, right Who's looking after
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Speaker 1: your kids? Five forty five fifty five car see the
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Speaker 1: Friday five three seven ft y two to three talk
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Speaker 1: reoccurring segment here in the fifty five Cassey Morning She
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Speaker 1: was a call from Bobby to predict the over and
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Speaker 1: under on crime in the city of Cincinnati. Bobby, welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the show. Happy Friday, my friend.
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Speaker 5: Happy Friday, my friend, Fats flag family, and get extra
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Speaker 5: cartridges for your peacekeeper.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I thought the other day I love the stories
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Speaker 1: when we found in arsenal of firearms. He had three
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Speaker 1: firearms and five hundred rounds of ammunitions. Okay, great, five hundred.
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Speaker 1: It's like a day at the range for me. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Bobby, Oh, I hope they will come around.
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Speaker 1: I know, go ahead.
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Speaker 5: Hey, we got a handicap, and we got a lot
28:54
Speaker 5: of weather problems this weekend, raining and everything, cool weather,
28:59
Speaker 5: so we're going hand camped at about three and a half.
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Speaker 1: Three point five.
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Speaker 8: All right?
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Speaker 1: Is that for people being shot victims of violent crimes generally,
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Speaker 1: or is that going to be homicides?
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Speaker 5: Well, we like to keep the violent issues at firearms.
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Speaker 5: But you know, when you've got the interstate shut down
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Speaker 5: and people using hammers and everything else. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 5: you could just pick it out. Cincinnati is a violent city,
29:25
Speaker 5: but it's hopefully it's going to be a little bit
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Speaker 5: not as violent this weekend because it's supposed to rain
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Speaker 5: and be cool.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing how the weather can impact crime like that. Well, Bobby,
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Speaker 1: let us all pray collectively that it's under three point five,
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Speaker 1: just for the good of humanity. Appreciate you, Bobby, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: lay in some extra rounds. We got a Cheyenne, Wyoming
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Speaker 1: where the Shining Police Department was dispatched to a call
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Speaker 1: for assistance outside the Cheyenne Public Safety Center. Reports of
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Speaker 1: in the report a white male walking on the sidewalk
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Speaker 1: completely nude and exposing himself. Why are you doing that?
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Speaker 1: Knee affidavit a probable cause. Jason Hellings is his name,
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Speaker 1: described as a homeless man with specifically brown hair, blue eyes,
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Speaker 1: five to ten inches and weighing two hundred and twenty pounds.
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Speaker 1: Police showed up. They found him naked, standing in a
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Speaker 1: quote bladed off stance with his hands raised in a
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Speaker 1: fighting fashion. Close quote officers tried to instruct Hellings to
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Speaker 1: put his hands behind his back. He refused and instead resisted.
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Speaker 1: The officer reportedly balled up, making it difficult from the
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Speaker 1: rest of this naked guy. They attempted to reposition to
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Speaker 1: a more advantagious position, an advantageous position, but at one
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Speaker 1: point in the scuffle got to his feet, attempted to
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Speaker 1: punch the policeman, and then took off running. Eventually was apprehended,
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Speaker 1: but continued to resist until handcuffs were fully applied. First
30:44
Speaker 1: court appearance earlier this week, charged with causing bodily injury
30:47
Speaker 1: to a police officer and a fellon, which is a
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Speaker 1: felony punishable by up to ten years in prison. Also
30:52
Speaker 1: charged with interference with the peace officer, misdemeanor that could
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Speaker 1: add an additional year to his sentence if he's found guilty,
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Speaker 1: and he has, of course, a lengthy criminal history. Lengthy.
31:03
Speaker 1: This one's twisted, Joe. I think we have a ward,
31:05
Speaker 1: multiple awards to give out Portland, Oregon, where a woman
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Speaker 1: is now facing allegations she served as an accomplice to
31:13
Speaker 1: her husband. Her husband currently facing charges as part of
31:17
Speaker 1: an investigation into an inner circle of pediatrician connected quote
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Speaker 1: naked sleepovers close quote in Vancouver, do wait for it,
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Speaker 1: Joseph Anna May Hartley being held at the jail in
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Speaker 1: charges of first degree trafficking and first degree child molestation.
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Speaker 1: This erast weeks after her husband, Chad Hartley, sharing in
31:41
Speaker 1: the award, arrested by investigators who reported finding child sex
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Speaker 1: abuse materials linked to his IP address. He was booked
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Speaker 1: in the Clark County Jail in charge of possessing and
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Speaker 1: dealing in depictions of a minor engage in sexually explicit conduct.
31:52
Speaker 1: It's also been charged with first degree trafficking and first
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Speaker 1: degree child molest station court in Megan Finch the Clark
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Speaker 1: County Prosecutor's Office, his wife actively participated in transporting a
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Speaker 1: victim to another identified suspect who's now deceased. Will get
32:07
Speaker 1: to him in a minute, since it was a penning investigation. Importantly,
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Speaker 1: Anna Harley knew a victim was being molested by her husband,
32:15
Speaker 1: and the co conspirator is now deceased, specifically Michael Wilmington,
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Speaker 1: former pediatrician. He was found dead May second, shortly after
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Speaker 1: police searched his home and obtained information about a child
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Speaker 1: he had reportedly molested. Worked at multiple medical facilities in Portland,
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Speaker 1: Vancouver areas. Investigators believe he held inappropriate sleepovers with children
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson at his home with the help of Hartley,
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Speaker 1: his wife, and another man by the name of William
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Speaker 1: snyder Wine. Sneyder Wine also arrested on charge of conspiracy
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Speaker 1: to commit child molestation and tampering with physical evidence after
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Speaker 1: his search of his home. Judge opted to grant Hartley Bell,
32:57
Speaker 1: setting it at three hundred thousand dollars. Joe Peri is
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Speaker 1: the biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies.
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Speaker 1: There's no bigger douche than you.
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Speaker 4: You've reached the top, the pinnacle of doue them.
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Speaker 1: Good going, Douce, Your dreams have come true. Shy five
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Speaker 1: Mike Dewan woke up. Hey, we got a problem with
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Maryland being the first US state demand
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Speaker 1: balance pricing and the fake IT worker problem that's at
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, followed by one hour from
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Speaker 1: now in studio private citizen brad Win Strip. Of course
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the situation with Iron, the Jijinping Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump summit which Donald Trump was all beamy and glowing,
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Speaker 1: and talk about how awesome it went Taiwan. Kind of
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Speaker 1: a sticking point though, and it remained so anyway, Lots
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Speaker 1: of topics to talk about with Congressman Winstrip coming up
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Speaker 1: at seven oh five. Congressman David Taylor joining the show
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Speaker 1: at eight oh five, talk about the primary, talk about
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Speaker 1: a rod in China as well other topics with David Taylor,
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Speaker 1: and then of course it being Friday, Jack Windsor at
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Speaker 1: eight thirty the Ohio Medicaid scandal look govern to Wine
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Speaker 1: woke up yesterday and finally realized it's a real problem
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Speaker 1: here in Ohio. We'll also talk about Ohio ed choice program.
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Speaker 1: I was on a well obviously a big just last
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Speaker 1: hour tear in favor of the Sinsann Classical Academy, which
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Speaker 1: I got to tour yesterday. Man, it's just amazing and
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Speaker 1: I'm glad we have some measure of choice here in
34:52
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. It's a winning issue Republicans, Democrats
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Speaker 1: as well. You all like school choice, so why not
34:59
Speaker 1: run on it, total ipartisan embrace of school choice. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: over to governmor de Wine, What is going on here?
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Speaker 8: Now?
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Speaker 1: The Daily Wire has done this series of about the
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Speaker 1: Medicaid fraud and this is a multiple series done by
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Speaker 1: a guy named Luke Rosiak, and keeping our fingers crossed
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Speaker 1: it maybe Luke might joined the show next week. So far,
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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard back with him. Joe's doing his best
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Speaker 1: to arrange for Luke to join the program talk about
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Speaker 1: his findings, but I can boil him down a little
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Speaker 1: bit here, at least some of them. And this is
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Speaker 1: what's troubling, because Dwine came out yesterday and he's announced
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Speaker 1: new initiatives aimed at fraud prevention here in Ohio. So
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Speaker 1: the Daily Wire's investigation into this multi billion dollar medicaid
35:33
Speaker 1: industry in Ohio, obviously raising concerns about abuse. People are
35:37
Speaker 1: being paid to provide cooking and cleaning, other non medical services,
35:42
Speaker 1: even companionship. You get a check for being a friend
35:45
Speaker 1: to one of your loved ones, and it's not being tracked,
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Speaker 1: at least not until the other day when Governor de
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Speaker 1: Wine actually took some action to that. Along those lines,
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Speaker 1: mandatory electronic visit verification. I brought this up yesterday now.
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Speaker 1: According to reporting from Luke, the Twenty first Century Cures Act,
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Speaker 1: passed by Congress in twenty sixteen, mandates that states require
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Speaker 1: electronic visit verification for the riskiest category beginning in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty personal services, non medical services like cooking and cleaning,
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Speaker 1: and by twenty twenty three you had to have this
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Speaker 1: ev the electronic verification for in home nursing. However, for years,
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Speaker 1: Io simply paid providers even if they didn't submit any
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Speaker 1: electronic evidence. According to a twenty twenty four audit by
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Speaker 1: Keith Faber, the auditor he apparently examined payments in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two found that forty four percent of these personal
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Speaker 1: service claims had no electronic verification. Now I'm going to
36:45
Speaker 1: go back to the point that Luke Rosiack made in
36:47
Speaker 1: his reporting. The twenty first century Cures Act been around
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Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen. It mandates electronic visit verification. Huh, we
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Speaker 1: didn't do it. Favors Audit apparently looked at the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty two payments. They got forty four percent of services
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Speaker 1: with none of this with home nursing. The same thing.
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Speaker 1: Remember there were two phases here twenty twenty for the
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Speaker 1: riskiest categories twenty twenty three for home nursing. You had
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Speaker 1: to have the verification. According to Favors Audit, one point
37:17
Speaker 1: one billion dollars in claims that were not supported by
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Speaker 1: one of these edvs. An obligation. Audit said, if the
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Speaker 1: state has an electronic verification system, then using it should
37:28
Speaker 1: be a condition of payment. And I scratched my head
37:31
Speaker 1: over that. If this Cures Act requires it since twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 1: then what do you mean should be a condition of payment?
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Speaker 1: It's supposed to be. Here's the other component that I
37:43
Speaker 1: had me scratching my head. Shortly before the EVV made
37:46
Speaker 1: was made mandatory, it was newtered as a fraud prevention tool.
37:51
Speaker 1: The GPS coordinates captured by electronic devices, described as the
37:54
Speaker 1: most important feature of this was made optional and it
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Speaker 1: defaulted to the off position. Effect of July twenty first,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. GPS functionality with any EVV application or
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Speaker 1: device may only be activated if the sign consent of
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Speaker 1: the individual receiving services and is another point, amut have yesterday?
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Speaker 1: So you have a family member that must agree to
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Speaker 1: have this electronic verification in the interest of privacy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Whatever, So we didn't have it was turned off. David Gyost,
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Speaker 1: task with policing Medicaid fraud, testified that the rollback of
38:28
Speaker 1: this safeguard made his job difficult. Quote from David Yost.
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Speaker 1: Until about a year ago, GPS was required. Now it's optional.
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Speaker 1: I don't know for the life of me why it
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Speaker 1: went away, but I respectfully asked that you put it
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Speaker 1: in statute where no vendor, no bureaucrat can object to
38:46
Speaker 1: legitimate monitoring. It's already a federal law. These are federal
38:51
Speaker 1: dollars we're talking about here, So what is with that?
38:59
Speaker 1: A bill was introduced to make this GPS mandatory again
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Speaker 1: in Ohio, but even then it appears that GPS data
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Speaker 1: could be easily faked. Another problem with this fabres Audit
39:07
Speaker 1: said Ohio spend one hundred and sixty four million dollars
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Speaker 1: contracting with a data firm that produces these EVEV devices
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Speaker 1: and software that allowed providers to be able to use
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Speaker 1: this software for free. However, and nonetheless, the state allows
39:19
Speaker 1: homecare providers to use their own software instead, potentially indicating
39:24
Speaker 1: software that simply transmit fake coordinates rather than ones coming
39:28
Speaker 1: straight from a mobile device's sensors workarounds. Ohio also apparently
39:35
Speaker 1: permits the electronic records to be manually adjusted, and according
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Speaker 1: to Fabers Audit in twenty twenty two, to thirty four
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Speaker 1: percent of all of these EVEV entries were manually adjusted.
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Speaker 1: Red Flag Mutch de Wind drastically increase the pay for
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Speaker 1: home healthcare providers in twenty twenty two as part of
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Speaker 1: Governor Mike Dwines' commitment to making sure every Ohiland receives
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Speaker 1: quality care, that providers receive support and continue to deliver
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Speaker 1: the highest level of care for Ohio residents. The rate
40:10
Speaker 1: increases historic in nature totally approximately three point four billion
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Speaker 1: dollars a year increase rates, so he is he increased
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Speaker 1: rates while also allowing the slipshot nature of this reporting,
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Speaker 1: ignoring the EVV requirement. Who shut it down? Question mark now.
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Speaker 1: The other day, Governor Wine announced brand new initiatives at
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Speaker 1: fraud prevention, including immediately ending payments to providers whose billing
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Speaker 1: practices raise red flags, and so much more reporting on
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Speaker 1: this like seven buildings, two hundred and eighty eight medical
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Speaker 1: companies located in seven buildings, the fact that the vast
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Speaker 1: majority of these home health care payments were in Franklin
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Speaker 1: County on a percentage basis nothing to see there swirling
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Speaker 1: in all these red flags. Governor said, some of the
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Speaker 1: initiatives have been in the work for some time, remember
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Speaker 1: going back to Favors on it in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: He said. The state began using this new system in
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Speaker 1: January to identify billing data anomalies January of this year.
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Speaker 1: Favors audit back in twenty twenty four, reviewing data from
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, The Ohio Department of Medicaid will move
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Speaker 1: toward a rule change requiring GPS verified locations brand new
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Speaker 1: in state of Ohio, ensuring that home healthcare providers are
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Speaker 1: present at the specific location where they're supposed to be
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Speaker 1: when helping someone. According to reporting here. The state began
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Speaker 1: phasing in the electronic visit verification more than a year ago,
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Speaker 1: going back to the prior reporting a law that's been
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Speaker 1: in place since twenty sixteen mandating EVV beginning in twenty twenty. Huh,
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Speaker 1: we've been working on this for at least a year,
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Speaker 1: said the release, Live in caregivers that would be required
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Speaker 1: to comply with the electronic verifications as well. Dwayne also
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Speaker 1: said he would, meaning to me, he hasn't yes yet
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Speaker 1: issue an executive order purporting to empower the state Medicaid
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Speaker 1: agency too quote implement emergency rules to require more frequent
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Speaker 1: revalidation and providers being identified as higher risk for committing fraud. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you could do an executive order, and you've known
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Speaker 1: about this audit at least since twenty twenty four, why
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Speaker 1: didn't you do it before? Huh? Let that question spin
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Speaker 1: it around on your head for a while. Government and
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Speaker 1: the announcement. The same day, US Center for Medicare and
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Speaker 1: Medicaid Services took two major actions. One, they withheld one
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Speaker 1: point three billion from California because of the massive hospice
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Speaker 1: care fraud. Second, CMS agency announces six month freeze on
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Speaker 1: Medicaid enrollments. For new home health care hospice services, so
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Speaker 1: they're taking action. Reacting Governor Mike Dwaine Dwine said apparently
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Speaker 1: he planned to ask for that moratorium in Ohio, which
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Speaker 1: would give the date time to evaluate the existing providers
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Speaker 1: and in his words, help remove those at high risk
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Speaker 1: from having committed fraud. Oh so see Himax's other day,
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Speaker 1: and I planned on doing that. I was going to
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Speaker 1: ask for that. So we had the Minnesota fraud Nick Shirley,
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Speaker 1: and we have the reporting, and I encourage you to
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Speaker 1: the Daily Wire read all the Luke Rosiack reporting on this.
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Speaker 1: It's mind blowing. I'm just barely scratching the service of it.
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Speaker 1: But you know, hey, he woke up. He finally is
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Speaker 1: taking some steps to stop the fraud, the theft of
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Speaker 1: the American taxpayer dollars here in Ohio. Gee, thanks a lot.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate a better late in the game than not
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Speaker 1: at all. I will acknowledge at least that five on
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Speaker 1: C detalk station. Hope you have some great plans for
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Speaker 1: the weekend, and a very happy Friday to everyone, David,
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Speaker 1: and put a smile on my face, and I turn
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Speaker 1: it over to the phones. Talk about something really, really
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Speaker 1: wonderful coming up this weekend, cribbage, Mike, my submarine or friend.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for your service to our country, and thank
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Speaker 1: you for your work and efforts with the USS Cincinnati Memorial,
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Speaker 1: the Peace Pavilion located Voice of America Park in Westchester.
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Speaker 1: I drive by that every once in a while, Mike,
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Speaker 1: and it's really come a long way and it's getting
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Speaker 1: ready to open. Thanks for calling up this morning.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, Brian, and welcome back, sir.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 7: Yes, So, the USS Cincinnati Fast Attack Submarine served out
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Speaker 7: in Norfolk, Virginia and the Atlantic Fleet from seventy seven
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Speaker 7: to ninety six, and people would say, wow, only eighteen years.
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Speaker 7: We were coming through the Peace dividend, And actually she
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Speaker 7: was coming up on a refueling overhaul and the Navy
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Speaker 7: had made it their decision at the time to draw
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Speaker 7: down the number of ships we had. So that's why
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Speaker 7: she only served very valuantly for nineteen years. Otherwise, with
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Speaker 7: the refuel she would have served for another fifteen to
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Speaker 7: twenty years, and.
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Speaker 1: That would be a nuclear reactor refuel right, Mike.
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Speaker 7: A nuclear reactor, yes, sir. And as a matter of fact,
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Speaker 7: for the past fifteen years, the nuclear reactor we put
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Speaker 7: on all our aircraft carriers and our current submarines do
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Speaker 7: not even need refueling. So the AIRFOLP carriers last almost
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Speaker 7: fifty years on their core. Submarines last about thirty five
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Speaker 7: to forty years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what stupid technology. We shouldn't have that for civilian uses, Mike,
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Speaker 1: that will be dumb.
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Speaker 7: Well, and that just came around with like with the
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Speaker 7: note oh wait, let me correct myself.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 7: Nineteen fifty four, the USS Nautilust, the first nuclear power submarine,
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Speaker 7: was launched in commissioned. So for seventy two years, our
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Speaker 7: United States Navy has been operating nuclear reactors without war incident.
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Speaker 1: Knock up, with not one incident. So no three Mile
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Speaker 1: Island kind of things going on with our nuclear powible. Okay,
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Speaker 1: all right, good, and we don't need that though, that
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Speaker 1: would be stupid. I'm sorry head to double down on that.
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Speaker 1: So the exhibit is officially opening this weekend, if I
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Speaker 1: got that correct.
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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, So the actual parts there was a huge
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Speaker 7: ceremony if you may remember, back in twenty thirteen at
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Speaker 7: the Red Stadium. Our local Navy League has always been
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Speaker 7: very president and supported, even when the USS Cincinnati was
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Speaker 7: in commission. Those parts are now on full display and
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Speaker 7: what we did, and throughout the country you may see
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Speaker 7: some summary memorials where it may just be that conning
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Speaker 7: tower and nice plaques. So we have the actual conning tower,
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Speaker 7: the actual diving planes attached to that diving tower, the
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Speaker 7: upper portion of the rudder, and we also have the
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Speaker 7: entire emergency diesel that was used aboard that submarine, and
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Speaker 7: that is very unique in that one because, as I mentioned,
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Speaker 7: it was commission in seventy seven, so we just came
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Speaker 7: off of the reds back to back the ships in
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Speaker 7: seventy five seventy six. Right, every other submarine diesel is
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Speaker 7: Hayes gray like most of the ship is inside. However,
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Speaker 7: they got permission to paint that thing red, and since
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Speaker 7: it was commissioned in seventy seven, that was always effectually
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Speaker 7: known as the big red machine.
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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. So the toll to diesel, the time it
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Speaker 1: served it, the time it served the diesel backup was
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Speaker 1: always painted red.
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Speaker 7: Always painted red. And that entire diesel is also out
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Speaker 7: there in Westchester. So what we did and you get
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Speaker 7: the full experience of the length and width of that
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Speaker 7: three hundred and sixty two foot submarine and thirty three
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Speaker 7: foot beam. So the ribs you see, those were constructed.
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Speaker 7: But the actual sale, the diving planes, the upper portion
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Speaker 7: of the rudder are the actual parts of the USS
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Speaker 7: Cincinnati and we have and it's pretty much set up
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Speaker 7: for a self guided tour. There are thirteen stations throughout
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Speaker 7: that tells you in that portion of the Cincinnati what
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Speaker 7: went on there. This is where the reactor was, this
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Speaker 7: is where sonar was, so as a self guided tour
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Speaker 7: because right there in Voice of America Park, and initially
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Speaker 7: it was supposed to be at the banks, kind of
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Speaker 7: like where the Brady Music Center ended up being. Hamilton
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Speaker 7: County at the time was looking at making a veterans park,
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Speaker 7: but this destination a it's timely because it's righted Voice
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Speaker 7: of America Park, which we as we know, with the
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Speaker 7: Cold War sent radio messages and programming beyond the Iron Curtain.
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Speaker 7: So as the USS Cincinnati did its part and help
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Speaker 7: winning the Cold War, right out there Voice of America Park,
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Speaker 7: so it'll be open every day from dust to dawn,
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Speaker 7: pretty much a self guided tour. However, myself and about
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Speaker 7: twenty five other submarine veterans here to Local Submarine Veterans Chapter,
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Speaker 7: we will be out there on major holidays. We're going
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Speaker 7: to be out there this weekend. We'll be out there
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Speaker 7: Memorial Day, Labor Day, and then of course at the
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Speaker 7: Big Country Country Western Music Festival in September, we'll be
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Speaker 7: out there too once again to add our you know,
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Speaker 7: maybe better description than what the sign show, and maybe
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Speaker 7: throwing a c story or two.
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Speaker 1: There you go, Mike, I can't thank you know for
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Speaker 1: calling in and reminding us all about that wonderful exhibit
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Speaker 1: real quick here for we Park Company. How much time
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Speaker 1: did you spend underwater when you served our country on
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Speaker 1: a sub collective.
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Speaker 7: All over course of my twenty nine year career, about
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Speaker 7: six years underwater?
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Speaker 1: Six years underwater? Think about that. God bless you man,
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad I kicked your budd at cribbage by
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Speaker 1: at least one point. Last time. We'll do it again. Listener,
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Speaker 1: lunch Anderson Pub and Gril first Wednesday next month, you
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Speaker 1: two can watch cribbage Mike and I play a game.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, God bless you sort of have a wonderful
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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. I appreciate you coming on the program every week.
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Speaker 9: Always my pleasure. Brian, happy to be here.
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Speaker 1: I love this. The flock cameras, some people love them,
50:15
Speaker 1: some people hate them. Kind of an Orwellian reality, but
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Speaker 1: police using them in a bit of an untoward manner.
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Speaker 1: What's going on here, Dave?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Brian, I'm sure you can guess my opinion. Oh,
50:27
Speaker 9: I know already block block cameras. Not a huge fan.
50:30
Speaker 9: There's lots of problems out there. I could spend this
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Speaker 9: entire thirty minute segment with you just pointing out some
50:38
Speaker 9: of the issues, like the video of the guy who
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Speaker 9: hacks a flock camera and watches himself on that camera,
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Speaker 9: or the guy who keeps I think we talked about
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Speaker 9: this maybe a few weeks ago, the guy who keeps
50:48
Speaker 9: getting pulled over because the license plate recognition apparently is
50:52
Speaker 9: not good enough to discern between a zero and an O.
50:55
Speaker 9: And this guy keeps getting pulled over because it reads
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Speaker 9: his plate since I've alert there's a warrant for him,
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Speaker 9: and he gets pulled over. This has happened numerous times,
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Speaker 9: and actually I believe in more than one instance I'm
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Speaker 9: only aware of. I think it's Colorado. Uh but here, Yeah,
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Speaker 9: here's a case where you know, it's been shown that
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Speaker 9: at least fourteen different times of the eighty thousand flock
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Speaker 9: camera plus cameras out there across the US, police officers
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Speaker 9: have used these things in let's just call it unsavory,
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Speaker 9: if not illegal, ways to follow people, research, people, love interests, spouses,
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Speaker 9: that sort of thing. And to me, it just shows
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Speaker 9: the potential downside of so much of this surveillance technology.
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Speaker 1: Surveillance technology run by people. People are inherently, you know,
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Speaker 1: have an inherent potential to commit crimes and do untoward things,
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Speaker 1: unsavory things, and quite often illegal things. That's a dangerous
51:53
Speaker 1: part because everything that you know, we're surrounded by is
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Speaker 1: run by some person in a government entity and we
51:58
Speaker 1: can't trust them all we've come to learn and Dave, no,
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Speaker 1: you can't.
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Speaker 9: Plus Brian, this, this facial recognition technology is not perfect.
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Speaker 9: AI technology is not perfect. Again, is evidenced by this
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Speaker 9: guy who keeps getting pulled over. You know this stuff
52:14
Speaker 9: is it's okay AI in general. Right when you use
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Speaker 9: these large language models, it's not deterministic. You and I
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Speaker 9: can ask the exact same question and get two different answers.
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Speaker 9: You know, this stuff is not perfect, and we've we've
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Speaker 9: rushed to throw so much of this stuff out there.
52:30
Speaker 9: And it's not that I'm necessarily against this stuff. It's that,
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Speaker 9: as we you and I have discussed so many times,
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Speaker 9: the business model of the Internet of things is all
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Speaker 9: wrong for you as a consumer. It's not focused on
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Speaker 9: privacy and security. It's focused on speed to market, market share,
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Speaker 9: ease of use in collecting your data. And as more
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Speaker 9: and more data gets collected about you, as we see
52:50
Speaker 9: how these things can go wrong because the technical solution
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Speaker 9: is not perfect and to your point, private, because there
52:57
Speaker 9: are human beings operating these things, and you know, it's
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Speaker 9: we're just creating a situation that has the potential to
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Speaker 9: go bad. Now, even if you take out the surveillance
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Speaker 9: aspect of this, the idea, and we've talked about this before,
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Speaker 9: I know that that in the adversarial nation could hack
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Speaker 9: these things and then use them to surveil us pick targets,
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Speaker 9: figure out how to cause chaos in the economy. And
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Speaker 9: I know this sounds crazy to a lot of people,
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Speaker 9: but again it's it's not. I can point you to
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Speaker 9: evidence of every one of these things. I know you.
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Speaker 1: This is why I say, for someone out there who
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Speaker 1: doesn't believe what you're saying, then you're not paying attention
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Speaker 1: to the news.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I would encourage folks, you know, as you know, Brian,
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Speaker 9: if you follow me on like Facebook, x or LinkedIn,
53:42
Speaker 9: I'm sharing these kinds of things all the time. I
53:44
Speaker 9: got a sub stack after the show, you know, I
53:47
Speaker 9: post the articles that we used on all of these things.
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Speaker 9: So all the stuff I'm talking about, if you just
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Speaker 9: follow me, you can go find on your own. You
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Speaker 9: don't even have to search.
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Speaker 1: For link LinkedIn dot com Dave Hotter, you will find it.
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Speaker 1: How to recommend you do that, let's Dave back. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk about an element of that, surveillance pricing. Yes, your
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Speaker 1: data can be used to.
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Speaker 8: Keep talk station.
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Speaker 1: So forty w onet to think about KRCD talk station
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Speaker 1: a very happy Friday for interest dot com where you
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Speaker 1: up on. And let's turn to an illustration of exactly
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Speaker 1: what the surveillance state can bring around surveillance pricing.
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Speaker 5: Dave.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Brian, so this is something that I find rather disturbing. Yeah,
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Speaker 9: And I don't think most people understand this is a thing.
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Speaker 9: So originally when we started e commerce, right being able
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Speaker 9: to shop online, that's what we used to call it.
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Speaker 9: Way back in the day. You'd hear about personalization and
54:42
Speaker 9: they're going to collect your data, the things you viewed,
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Speaker 9: the things you bought, so that they could personalize your
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Speaker 9: shopping experience, which I understand and can appreciate to some extent. Right,
54:52
Speaker 9: if you know I like books about science fiction, Well
54:55
Speaker 9: send me more science fiction books. Or if you know,
54:57
Speaker 9: I like heavy metal, we'll send me more heavy meta, right,
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Speaker 9: whatever that makes sense. Over time, though, we realize that
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Speaker 9: they get smart and realize the more data they have
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Speaker 9: about you, they can not only personalize things, they can determine. Well, okay,
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Speaker 9: Brian is in a different zip code than Dave. Brian
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Speaker 9: is in more affluent zip code than Dave, for example. Right,
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Speaker 9: this is just one tangent of this. So we're going
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Speaker 9: to charge Brian more for this product, and we're going
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Speaker 9: to charge Dave because we think Brian can pay more
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Speaker 9: because he's in a more affluent zip code. Now fast,
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Speaker 9: So that's called dynamic pricing. That's been around for a
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Speaker 9: long time as well. Now fast forward to every company,
55:34
Speaker 9: every app, every so called smart device is collecting enormous
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Speaker 9: amounts of data about you. Data brokers buy and sell
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Speaker 9: this data. Giant companies like Meta and Alphabet, the parent
55:45
Speaker 9: companies of Facebook and Google respectively, buy and sell this
55:48
Speaker 9: data so they can personalize things, They can target you,
55:52
Speaker 9: they can pinpoint things to your interests and get more
55:56
Speaker 9: money from advertising for you. And they say, okay, well,
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Speaker 9: now that we have an incredible amount of information about
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Speaker 9: Brian and David. We cannot just know that they are
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Speaker 9: more likely to pay more because of their zip code.
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Speaker 9: We know how much money they make, We know all
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Speaker 9: kinds of psychographic and demographic information about them. So we're
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Speaker 9: going to dynamically change the price. You and I go
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Speaker 9: look up product X. So maybe you and I are
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Speaker 9: going to have some company like Kroger delivery groceries to
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Speaker 9: our house and you get charged more for baked beans
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Speaker 9: than I do because they know you're a big fan
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Speaker 9: of Bush's baked beans. Now, as crazy as this sound,
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Speaker 9: it's a real thing, and Maryland has already taken steps
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Speaker 9: to ban this. But when people say, well that sounds
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Speaker 9: crazy again, this has been going on in e commerce
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Speaker 9: for a while, but you may have heard some retail
56:45
Speaker 9: stores are now going to electronic pricing tags in the store.
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Speaker 9: No longer the gun where you're going around changing the
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Speaker 9: pricing on the shelves. It's all electronic. And I can
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Speaker 9: walk in a store my phone through Bluetooth is connecting
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Speaker 9: to their beacons. It knows I'm there, and even when
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Speaker 9: I go in a store, it's physically possible. Now that
57:05
Speaker 9: you and I could be standing next to each other,
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Speaker 9: and when you move away from the baked beans, you
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Speaker 9: know the price you got is lower than me because
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Speaker 9: they know I like them better than you based on
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Speaker 9: my previous purchases and the fact that I follow Bush
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Speaker 9: Baked Beans online or whatever. So, yeah, this is a
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Speaker 9: real thing. I think it's really kind of crazy from
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Speaker 9: a consumer perspective. And yeah, Maryland introduced the Protection from
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Speaker 9: Predatory Pricing Act. It will ban surveillance pricing and grocery stores,
57:33
Speaker 9: and I you know, some consumer groups don't think it
57:36
Speaker 9: goes far enough. You know, I would say any step
57:40
Speaker 9: in the right direction towards banning this practice, which again
57:44
Speaker 9: to me, is patently unfair. You know, we hear about
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Speaker 9: price gouging all the time and so forth during disasters.
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Speaker 9: I don't I understand from the perspective of the people
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Speaker 9: doing it why they want to be able to do this,
57:56
Speaker 9: of course, but the idea that you and I are
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Speaker 9: getting charge something different, it seems patently unfair. Kudos to
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Speaker 9: Maryland that I can tell you. I will be working
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Speaker 9: hard here in Kentucky to raise awareness about this with
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Speaker 9: our legislature and try to get this practice banned in Kentucky,
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Speaker 9: and I encourage all of you in Ohio and Indiana
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Speaker 9: to do the same. I'll post the links. It'll all
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Speaker 9: be out there. Look into it. I wrote an article
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Speaker 9: about this about a year ago, trying to help people
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Speaker 9: understand it. It's real, folks. Yeah, don't have to contact
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Speaker 9: your legislators.
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Speaker 1: Listen, if we're all haggling in a bazaar, then some
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Speaker 1: people would pay more than others. You know, you do
58:30
Speaker 1: it back and forth. You know ten for that you
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Speaker 1: must be mad. You know, offer me five. Offer you know,
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Speaker 1: different prices for different folks, depending on your haggling skills.
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Speaker 1: Although you know, I'll point out this kind of thing
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Speaker 1: existed when I lived up in Oak Park, Illinois, which
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Speaker 1: was the lower price point compared to River Forests, the
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Speaker 1: adjacent neighborhood where people were wealthier and had more expensive
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Speaker 1: homes simply because of the neighborhood they lived. And we
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Speaker 1: used to joke about it. You know, have your HVAC
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Speaker 1: fix where are you? Oak Park or River Forests? Where
58:55
Speaker 1: you live will determine the pricing. So it just makes
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Speaker 1: the technology makes it a lot easier. Dave ad or
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Speaker 1: find Dave and all the articles he relies on for
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Speaker 1: this segment and so much other. How about the fake
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Speaker 1: IT worker problem, Dave.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is a wild story, Brian. I think we
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Speaker 9: may have talked about this maybe a year ago when
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Speaker 9: one of these stories.
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Speaker 1: Hit the news has a familiar ring to it.
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Speaker 9: But basically so in the business insider threat is the
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Speaker 9: idea that, you know, rather than hackers trying to break
59:44
Speaker 9: into your environment from the outside, you have someone inside.
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Speaker 9: Could be a disgruntled employee, and he'd be someone who's
59:51
Speaker 9: been bribed. It could be a fake worker, you know,
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Speaker 9: and since the pandemic, you've got a lot of people
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Speaker 9: working remotely and hacker realized bad guys, Nation state actors,
1:00:02
Speaker 9: the evil access of cybersecurity India or not India, sorry,
1:00:06
Speaker 9: North Korea, Iran, China and Russia kind of the evil
1:00:12
Speaker 9: access of cybersecurity. The nation state actors that we're constantly
1:00:16
Speaker 9: fighting against, trying to protect against. My apologies to India,
1:00:20
Speaker 9: by the way, is realizing that they can get people
1:00:26
Speaker 9: to appear to be legitimate employment candidates, get jobs in
1:00:30
Speaker 9: American companies and become the ultimate insider threat. You're theoretically
1:00:36
Speaker 9: a trusted employee. You're being granted access to systems, and
1:00:40
Speaker 9: now you can surveil the systems. You can steal trade secrets,
1:00:43
Speaker 9: you can steal military secrets, you could steal money or
1:00:45
Speaker 9: whatever it is you're trying to do so. From this
1:00:49
Speaker 9: article in Chief Security Officer magazine, which is pretty well respected,
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Speaker 9: hiring fake IT workers has been a growing problem. It's
1:00:55
Speaker 9: often a problem for you won't admit. From Fortune five
1:00:57
Speaker 9: hundred down to smaller organizations, roade hiring practice have been
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Speaker 9: exploited to grant trusted to grant trusted access to individuals
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Speaker 9: who are not what they claim to be, creating an
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Speaker 9: insider threat. Risk estimates suggest there are thousands of fake
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Speaker 9: IT workers in the US in a position to steal information.
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Speaker 9: Amazon has identified and blocked more than eighteen hundred attempts
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Speaker 9: by North Korea to secure it rolls and the numbers
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Speaker 9: are rising amazing.
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Speaker 1: In this modern time, you don't have a face to
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Speaker 1: face interview with someone you're going to employ.
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Speaker 9: Well, but Brian, here's the thing. They're using AI to
1:01:31
Speaker 9: create resumes that seem realistic. They're using AI to create
1:01:35
Speaker 9: deep fakes. You know, you get on a if you're
1:01:38
Speaker 9: not doing a video interview, and even that can potentially
1:01:41
Speaker 9: be deep faked. Now, and that's one of the things
1:01:44
Speaker 9: they talk about in this article, right is how do
1:01:46
Speaker 9: you defeat this problem? But one of the more extreme
1:01:50
Speaker 9: examples of this there was a guy I don't have
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Speaker 9: the article in front of me, I believe it was
1:01:53
Speaker 9: in Nashville who was essentially setting up I'm going to
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Speaker 9: use this trim loosely a server farm so North Rian
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Speaker 9: hackers could remote into his house in Nashville and then
1:02:04
Speaker 9: appear to be working from a site in Nashville. Well,
1:02:07
Speaker 9: he went, he got arrested and went to jail, if
1:02:10
Speaker 9: I recall correctly. Again, I don't have that article in
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Speaker 9: front of me, but they talk in this article which
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Speaker 9: I'll link today on my substack from cso you know,
1:02:19
Speaker 9: no single point of failure in the recruitment process. They
1:02:21
Speaker 9: can steal their identity, falsify their skills and experience, and
1:02:25
Speaker 9: move through the interview and screening process undetected. Sentinel One
1:02:28
Speaker 9: they make a very high end anti virus slash MDR
1:02:32
Speaker 9: XDR product. I'm a big fan of them. By the way,
1:02:35
Speaker 9: Sentinel one has tracked roughly three hundred and sixty fake
1:02:38
Speaker 9: personas and more than a thousand job applications linked to
1:02:41
Speaker 9: North Korean IT worker operations. You know, synthetic or stolen
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Speaker 9: ideas used to create resumes of online profiles. Interviews are
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Speaker 9: passed with the help of scripts, stand ins or AI
1:02:51
Speaker 9: assistant responses. Background check. Background checks confirm only what's presented
1:02:55
Speaker 9: to them, so you know, people are trying to work
1:02:58
Speaker 9: through the process. The hackers or wives to the processes
1:03:02
Speaker 9: and again thanks to AI, thanks to fake profiles, thanks
1:03:06
Speaker 9: to information that's been stolen, leaked, or breached about so
1:03:09
Speaker 9: many of us. Now you know, it's it's easy to
1:03:12
Speaker 9: create all this fake information. And if you're a business
1:03:15
Speaker 9: that's not aware of this, And that's the thing, Brian,
1:03:17
Speaker 9: and that's one of the onas why I appreciate you
1:03:19
Speaker 9: and Joe so much at fifty five KRC. So much
1:03:23
Speaker 9: of what you can do to defend yourself, your family,
1:03:25
Speaker 9: your organization against this these threats today. It's not technologically based.
1:03:30
Speaker 9: Its yeah, you need anti virus, you need those things.
1:03:33
Speaker 9: But it's awareness, it's skepticism. It's realizing there are bad
1:03:37
Speaker 9: guys out there who will try to get hired by
1:03:40
Speaker 9: your company so they can steal your secrets, steal your money,
1:03:43
Speaker 9: whatever else it is. And you know, again, it's if
1:03:45
Speaker 9: you're just aware that this is a thing, you can
1:03:48
Speaker 9: when you go through the interview process now be more skeptical,
1:03:51
Speaker 9: you know, maybe check more things, take more steps as
1:03:54
Speaker 9: opposed to, well, you know, we just did an interview.
1:03:57
Speaker 9: We didn't do a background check, we didn't do all
1:03:59
Speaker 9: of these things right, and these bad actors slip through
1:04:03
Speaker 9: because people are not even aware of this is a problem.
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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter. I appreciate your kind words for jokes Treker
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Speaker 8: Dave.
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Speaker 1: We'll do this again next Friday, and I look forward
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Speaker 1: to it already. Have a wonderful weekend, my friend.
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Speaker 9: Thanks Brian, always my pleasure, and I'll look forward to
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Speaker 9: talking to you again next Friday.
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Speaker 1: Dunk away, folks, I'm staring at him. He's in. It's
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Speaker 1: A'm very happy Friday to everyone. Please to have in
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Speaker 1: studio Former Congressman Citizen Brad Winsterp still has his uh
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Speaker 1: I guess fingers on the pulse of what's going on
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Speaker 1: here in the United States of America, most notably a
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Speaker 1: topic that I couldn't wait to dive on into the
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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen origin cover up. We're gonna get to that
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Speaker 1: in a moment. Welcome back, Congressman Brad or former Congressman
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Speaker 1: Brad Winsterp. Love having you in the studio talk about
1:05:16
Speaker 1: these important topics. Goodness, see man, it's good to.
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Speaker 4: Be with you, Brian as always. And you know what
1:05:21
Speaker 4: I try to do, Brian. You know we've been doing
1:05:23
Speaker 4: this about once a month. Yeah, I always try to
1:05:25
Speaker 4: come in right after I've been to DC. Ah, you've
1:05:29
Speaker 4: been back, and I was just there and the top
1:05:32
Speaker 4: we're going to a topic about talk about I got
1:05:35
Speaker 4: briefed done before it became a public entity.
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Speaker 1: This past week, and it did become a public thing.
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Speaker 1: And I was so shocked after watching the live testimony
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Speaker 1: of James Erdman, the third, who is a CIA analyst
1:05:49
Speaker 1: and a very very just amazing background. And you can
1:05:54
Speaker 1: comment on that because you already made comment to me
1:05:55
Speaker 1: off air about his background, but pretty much bulletproof in
1:05:58
Speaker 1: terms of what he knows and what he's seen and
1:06:00
Speaker 1: his involvement in looking into the origins of COVID nineteen.
1:06:04
Speaker 1: A bunch people rolling their eyes called, well, why are
1:06:06
Speaker 1: we still talking about that? Well, he explained in full
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Speaker 1: glorious detail during his testimony on this Senate Homeland Security
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Speaker 1: and Government Affairs Committee headed by Rand Paul suspiciously absent Democrats,
1:06:18
Speaker 1: not a single Democrat shut up to this hearing. But
1:06:21
Speaker 1: it is really important because not so much where did
1:06:24
Speaker 1: COVID come from, but the outrageous antics by the CIA
1:06:29
Speaker 1: in covering up and modifying what their conclusions were to
1:06:34
Speaker 1: fit the demands of Anthony Fauci of all people. So
1:06:38
Speaker 1: let's dive into details of this, because my mouth literally
1:06:40
Speaker 1: fell open. If you don't have time to watch the
1:06:41
Speaker 1: full hour and a half worth of testimony, just listen
1:06:44
Speaker 1: to James Erdman the third's statement at the outset. He
1:06:47
Speaker 1: boils it all down and then elaborates on the points,
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Speaker 1: and he's talking when the senators are asking him questions.
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Speaker 1: But he was charged to look into the origins of
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Speaker 1: COVID everything that happened then this is a recent charge,
1:07:05
Speaker 1: but he was kind of stopped in his tracks elaborate
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Speaker 1: in this because you've talked with mister Erdman before you
1:07:10
Speaker 1: knew about it.
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Speaker 4: Well, just no, I met him just a week and
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Speaker 4: a half ago. Yeah, when I was in DC with
1:07:17
Speaker 4: the board, and but before before he was going to
1:07:19
Speaker 4: go out here. Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbard, who
1:07:24
Speaker 4: has put this together to her credit, she said, Brad,
1:07:28
Speaker 4: will you come in. You've done all the pandemic stuff,
1:07:31
Speaker 4: you've been on the Intelligence Committee. There's a lot of
1:07:33
Speaker 4: things you weren't you knew or you weren't able to
1:07:35
Speaker 4: talk about, and I want you to go have him
1:07:38
Speaker 4: go over his report. He and another woman who will
1:07:42
Speaker 4: be nameless at this point.
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Speaker 1: She is not public another CIA operative.
1:07:46
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and and you know, take a look at this,
1:07:50
Speaker 4: and let's make sure we're all in the same page.
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Speaker 4: And certainly what he had was far more than ever
1:07:57
Speaker 4: I was ever able to get. Yet he was stymied
1:07:59
Speaker 4: in the process.
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Speaker 9: He was.
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Speaker 4: So here's a guy, he's CIA operations officer, which a
1:08:05
Speaker 4: with a very patriotic, glorified career in serving the country
1:08:10
Speaker 4: and a lot of dangerous places, and he's being tasked
1:08:14
Speaker 4: with this mission and he is as appalled as I
1:08:18
Speaker 4: have been over time. You mentioned no democrats there. This
1:08:22
Speaker 4: is consistent with what we were seeing if you go
1:08:25
Speaker 4: back to COVID origins and Intel report, and we still
1:08:29
Speaker 4: had Adam Schiff on the Intelligence Committee. You know, his
1:08:33
Speaker 4: version from their side was, oh, it's all water under
1:08:36
Speaker 4: the bridge. Let's let's not talk about it anymore.
1:08:39
Speaker 1: Five years ago. Now well no, this was even five
1:08:42
Speaker 1: years ago.
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Speaker 4: He's saying, COVID's water under the bridge. Forget it. We
1:08:47
Speaker 4: got to move on. Okay, well you would, you didn't
1:08:49
Speaker 4: even move on. And so now we have this and
1:08:53
Speaker 4: what he has shown is what we have said with
1:08:57
Speaker 4: what we have unclassified where you know Fauci was covering up.
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Speaker 1: You know, I get.
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Speaker 4: I got asked right after I retired, said will you
1:09:06
Speaker 4: come back and still work on origins of COVID? And
1:09:10
Speaker 4: I said, and the origins of the cover ups? And
1:09:13
Speaker 4: they said yes, yes, that's why you're still involved. That's
1:09:17
Speaker 4: why he had a meeting with Telsea Gabbert. That's how
1:09:18
Speaker 4: you got to meet James urban Or the third before
1:09:20
Speaker 4: he came out and testified on all this. Yes, okay,
1:09:23
Speaker 4: good because I couldn't believe what I was hearing from
1:09:26
Speaker 4: this guy and boiled down to its finest points. There's
1:09:28
Speaker 4: all kinds of entities and agencies, but they were asked to,
1:09:32
Speaker 4: you know, sort of come to a conclusion. The FBI
1:09:33
Speaker 4: had its own independent determination where this COVID came from.
1:09:36
Speaker 4: The FBI, I think it determined it was a lab
1:09:38
Speaker 4: leaku Yes, confident at least to some degree. And I
1:09:40
Speaker 4: can tell you as I looked into the studies by
1:09:43
Speaker 4: the intelligence agencies that apparently didn't talk to each other.
1:09:48
Speaker 1: They all just did their own thing.
1:09:51
Speaker 4: FBI did more work than anybody else because I got
1:09:55
Speaker 4: to report on who they well, what specialties they met with,
1:09:59
Speaker 4: and how often they met and the time they put
1:10:02
Speaker 4: in and FBI did the most work.
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Speaker 1: Okay, CIA separately looked into it, right, That's where Fauci
1:10:09
Speaker 1: comes in. Yes, so they have a conclusion by they
1:10:12
Speaker 1: reach out to researchers. This apparently is common practices because
1:10:15
Speaker 1: of course the CIA entities don't know anything about the
1:10:18
Speaker 1: whys and whereforce of biological research and modification and that
1:10:22
Speaker 1: kind of thing, So they hire consultants. The consultants can
1:10:25
Speaker 1: provide their explanation of what they think. The consultants originally
1:10:28
Speaker 1: said lab leak looks like the likely scenario. That report
1:10:34
Speaker 1: comes out. Fauci is injected into the equation. He brings
1:10:38
Speaker 1: his own hand pick group of these consultant researchers who
1:10:43
Speaker 1: come to a different conclusion. They think, no, this was
1:10:46
Speaker 1: naturally a current phenomenon bat in the cave or whatever,
1:10:49
Speaker 1: so countering what all the other researchers had already decided.
1:10:52
Speaker 1: So the ultimate report that came out not that it
1:10:56
Speaker 1: was a lableak likely, but that it unknown could be
1:11:00
Speaker 1: a lab leak, but it could have been, you know,
1:11:02
Speaker 1: a naturally occurring phenomenal. So they watered that down at
1:11:04
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci's behest. Now the weird thing about this is
1:11:08
Speaker 1: we find out from his testimony James Erman testimony, that
1:11:11
Speaker 1: Fauci's the money man behind all of these scientists getting
1:11:15
Speaker 1: aid research chests. Yeah, so of course they're going to
1:11:18
Speaker 1: battle whatever he wants. Big looming question has not been answered,
1:11:21
Speaker 1: and Erman didn't answer it. Why was Fauci so damn
1:11:24
Speaker 1: interested in making it look like it came from a
1:11:27
Speaker 1: naturally occurring mutation in nature and not just a simple
1:11:31
Speaker 1: COVID lab leak.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, this is my psychology degree coming into place,
1:11:37
Speaker 4: and just human nature. He's got blood on his hands,
1:11:39
Speaker 4: blood on his head if you have done this and look,
1:11:42
Speaker 4: I go back to twenty twelve where someone asked him
1:11:45
Speaker 4: about gain of function research in an interview it's public.
1:11:48
Speaker 4: They said, aren't you worried about something getting out of
1:11:51
Speaker 4: a lab and creating a pandemic? And he said, I
1:11:53
Speaker 4: think the benefits outweigh the risk. They played all kinds
1:11:56
Speaker 4: of games to continue gain of function research. By the way,
1:12:00
Speaker 4: doctor Fauci is not a virologist either, but he but
1:12:05
Speaker 4: but he's how do he become the money man? He
1:12:07
Speaker 4: because and he testified and listened to this when he
1:12:11
Speaker 4: testified in front of our committee in front of me.
1:12:14
Speaker 4: We asked him about the grant process right at one
1:12:17
Speaker 4: point he said, gosh, I get billions of dollars in
1:12:20
Speaker 4: grants every year. I can't know what's in them. And
1:12:24
Speaker 4: he so we asked specifically about eco Health doing gain
1:12:27
Speaker 4: of function research in Wuhan, China, where there's more labs
1:12:32
Speaker 4: than just the Wuhan Institute of Orology. They have their
1:12:34
Speaker 4: bioweapons lab, et cetera, et cetera. But when we asked
1:12:38
Speaker 4: him about that going money to them, he says, well,
1:12:42
Speaker 4: I just sign him. My job is only to sign them.
1:12:46
Speaker 4: There's there's they've been reviewed, and once they've been reviewed,
1:12:49
Speaker 4: I just sign them. And I said, and they didn't
1:12:52
Speaker 4: adhere to the tenants of the grant where they had
1:12:54
Speaker 4: to do their reporting, periodic reporting and if they created
1:12:58
Speaker 4: something more pathogenic that needed to be reported immediately, does
1:13:02
Speaker 4: a flag go up at NIH saying basically, where's your homework?
1:13:06
Speaker 4: And he says, and I'm paraphrasing here, but it's all
1:13:10
Speaker 4: public testimony. He said, well, that's over in compliance. I
1:13:14
Speaker 4: have nothing to do with that. I mean, he washed
1:13:15
Speaker 4: his hands of everything here.
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Speaker 1: And there was a twenty fifteen law that barred the
1:13:20
Speaker 1: gain of function research funding period under story. And then
1:13:22
Speaker 1: he changed the definition of what gain of function is
1:13:24
Speaker 1: to get around that. Yes, and so uh huh and
1:13:27
Speaker 1: this this is he knew, damn well, the gain of
1:13:29
Speaker 1: function research was going on. He's one that changed the definition. Well,
1:13:33
Speaker 1: he and others well, of course, but yeah, working with it.
1:13:35
Speaker 1: And he also put.
1:13:36
Speaker 4: Together this group that wrote proximal Origins that said, oh, look,
1:13:40
Speaker 4: it came from nature. And then he went out on
1:13:44
Speaker 4: the White House lawn. And I don't know if President
1:13:47
Speaker 4: Trump or Vice President Pence had any idea he was
1:13:51
Speaker 4: going to do that. I haven't been able to find
1:13:53
Speaker 4: that out. And he comes out, he goes this just
1:13:55
Speaker 4: in these brilliant scientists have said it came from nature.
1:13:59
Speaker 4: It's all right. He was trying to put it to rest.
1:14:02
Speaker 4: At the same time, the very day, the very day
1:14:06
Speaker 4: that he did that on the White House lawn, these scientists,
1:14:09
Speaker 4: as we found out in their internal emails, were saying,
1:14:13
Speaker 4: we still can't rule out that this thing's engineered. And
1:14:17
Speaker 4: one guy and one guy said, my focus is to
1:14:21
Speaker 4: disprove the lab leak theory. One of the guys he
1:14:24
Speaker 4: wrote proximal Origins it's all there, and in our report.
1:14:28
Speaker 4: I don't know how many people have actually read our report.
1:14:31
Speaker 4: I wrote it in a way, we wrote it in
1:14:33
Speaker 4: a way I had a great team with me, in
1:14:35
Speaker 4: a way that it's for the American people to decide.
1:14:37
Speaker 4: But here are the facts. Here are the facts. I'm
1:14:40
Speaker 4: not going to tell you. I don't have to tell
1:14:43
Speaker 4: you because it's all right here.
1:14:45
Speaker 1: Well, let's pause. We'll bring former congress from back once
1:14:48
Speaker 1: you're back to talk about the CIA specifically. And this
1:14:53
Speaker 1: has really got me down and very troubled. Seven sixteen
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Speaker 1: Thomas with former Congressman Brian Winstrop, who's still actively involved
1:15:06
Speaker 1: in connection with is COVID origin. And it's important the
1:15:09
Speaker 1: COVID origin story because it goes deeper and deeper and
1:15:12
Speaker 1: deeper and kind of is revealing. It's not kind of revealing,
1:15:14
Speaker 1: it's unbelievably revealing about the size, scope and power of
1:15:17
Speaker 1: the deep state. They hold up a metaphorical middle finger
1:15:21
Speaker 1: to anything they're asked, and they do not comply. Most notably,
1:15:24
Speaker 1: there was a law that was passed. Congress unanimously approved
1:15:27
Speaker 1: the disclosure of all the COVID nineteen origin files. Unanimous.
1:15:30
Speaker 1: There's no bypartisan anything ah here comes disclose the COVID
1:15:34
Speaker 1: nineteen documents. CIA signed in a law by Joe Biden
1:15:37
Speaker 1: when his last guy Gax's president. So it was done
1:15:39
Speaker 1: on the way out, much to his chagrin, I might
1:15:41
Speaker 1: point out, but a vet proof majority, that is exactly
1:15:44
Speaker 1: what you had. So it was inevitable in spite of
1:15:47
Speaker 1: the fact there was a law in the book demanding
1:15:49
Speaker 1: and ordering the CIA to turn over this. What do
1:15:51
Speaker 1: we get out of it? One five page redacted memorandum? Yeah,
1:15:55
Speaker 1: it was it was years ago.
1:15:57
Speaker 4: This I was obviously still in cons right. I'm like,
1:16:01
Speaker 4: we were going to declassify everything they have. That is
1:16:06
Speaker 4: what we passed. I mean, how could you not you
1:16:08
Speaker 4: talk about, you know, transparency, et cetera. Biden signs it
1:16:13
Speaker 4: and Everil Haynes, Director of National Intelligence Time E. Ray
1:16:18
Speaker 4: gives us a five page thing, and most of it
1:16:20
Speaker 4: was stuff we already knew on the Intel Committee, right,
1:16:23
Speaker 4: But it wasn't what we really were really looking for,
1:16:26
Speaker 4: like what is going on? Look every step of the
1:16:28
Speaker 4: way on the Select Subcommittee for the coronavirus pandemic. When
1:16:33
Speaker 4: we would go to HHS and understand that Fauci is
1:16:37
Speaker 4: all under HHS, and we'd go to them just to
1:16:39
Speaker 4: give us your documents on school closures, give us your
1:16:44
Speaker 4: documents on masking. You're met with a lawyer. You know,
1:16:49
Speaker 4: wait a minute, we are Congress, the people's government, and
1:16:53
Speaker 4: we're asking you who are under us, who we have
1:16:56
Speaker 4: oversight over that we need an attorney to take a
1:17:00
Speaker 4: look at these things. It's not supposed to work that way.
1:17:03
Speaker 4: And it was the same with Intel, and it's in
1:17:06
Speaker 4: statute that there's nothing they can keep from us. At
1:17:08
Speaker 4: least they have to turn things over to what's called
1:17:10
Speaker 4: the Gang of Eight. But they didn't, and they didn't
1:17:13
Speaker 4: they continue, they did not turn the documents.
1:17:16
Speaker 1: That's what Erman testified about, and he explained, this is
1:17:19
Speaker 1: where the foot dragon comes in. They know how to
1:17:21
Speaker 1: play the game. You know, Biden administration is in. You
1:17:23
Speaker 1: know what they do, what they do whatever they want
1:17:25
Speaker 1: on the Biden administration or the Biden administration signs a
1:17:27
Speaker 1: law that orders them produce the documents. Well just wait around,
1:17:30
Speaker 1: because soon enough another administration is going to show up
1:17:33
Speaker 1: and they will lose focus and move on to some
1:17:36
Speaker 1: other task and will never have to produce the documents. Well, well,
1:17:41
Speaker 1: they still haven't produced.
1:17:42
Speaker 4: They still haven't And you know, you know, when I
1:17:44
Speaker 4: went to Congress, Brian, it's you know, truth justice, American way.
1:17:49
Speaker 4: I still believe it existed. And you know, there'll probably
1:17:51
Speaker 4: be some bad people. There always are, you know, in
1:17:54
Speaker 4: any any field.
1:17:55
Speaker 1: But this is deep.
1:17:57
Speaker 4: And you know when people would say conspiracy, you go, yeah,
1:18:00
Speaker 4: it's theory, blah blah blah blah, it off. We found
1:18:04
Speaker 4: that these things are true, these things are true. They
1:18:07
Speaker 4: have been doing these things. And you know, you find
1:18:10
Speaker 4: out as a member of Congress, especially Republicans, because really
1:18:15
Speaker 4: the people in the agencies, they lean to the left.
1:18:18
Speaker 4: They're with the Democrats. The Democrats like them there because
1:18:22
Speaker 4: they will play their game with them, and so with us,
1:18:27
Speaker 4: it's kind of like, well, Congress, you know, and every
1:18:30
Speaker 4: two years you turn over. I mean there's new Senators,
1:18:33
Speaker 4: there's new members of the House that represents you've got
1:18:35
Speaker 4: to start all over.
1:18:35
Speaker 1: You know, there's a law in the books that didn't
1:18:37
Speaker 1: go away, which says, produce the damn documents. So pursuing
1:18:41
Speaker 1: I mean, what vehicle needs to be done. This is
1:18:42
Speaker 1: one of the questions that Erdman, James Erdman, the whistle blower,
1:18:45
Speaker 1: was testifying to. You know, we need someone to actually
1:18:48
Speaker 1: do something. Someone over the DOJ needs to start prosecuting people.
1:18:51
Speaker 1: When you go to the Supreme Court or whatever. The
1:18:54
Speaker 1: idea that you got to go through all of that
1:18:56
Speaker 1: when you have a law of the books by unanimous consent,
1:18:59
Speaker 1: yep is mind boggling. The CIA works for you, works
1:19:03
Speaker 1: for us. You're the one that funds them, and I'm
1:19:05
Speaker 1: thinking of you as a as a as a congressman.
1:19:07
Speaker 1: But you got your point.
1:19:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, which is something I've mentioned to you before.
1:19:12
Speaker 4: The only way I got some information from the intelligence
1:19:17
Speaker 4: community is when we were looking into the COVID stuff
1:19:21
Speaker 4: and I said, let me remind you all, we created
1:19:25
Speaker 4: your agency, and we fund your agency, and we started
1:19:28
Speaker 4: fencing money from the intelligence community until they gave us
1:19:32
Speaker 4: the information. I will never forget Director of National Intelligence
1:19:36
Speaker 4: Avrol Haynes saying do I get my ten million back? Now?
1:19:42
Speaker 4: Did I give you? Did I give you what you
1:19:46
Speaker 4: were wanting? Do I get my ten million back? I
1:19:48
Speaker 4: remember saying no, not yet, because you still have to.
1:19:51
Speaker 1: Give me X Y and Z. We're not done with
1:19:54
Speaker 1: this topic, folks, because we haven't even talked about the
1:19:56
Speaker 1: COVID vaccine. There's so much swirling around behind the scenes
1:20:00
Speaker 1: that is so so is such a letdown. You know,
1:20:02
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to be a proud American.
1:20:05
Speaker 1: You know when you think about the old days and
1:20:06
Speaker 1: you think, oh, we don't do bad things like that.
1:20:09
Speaker 1: You know, the CIA is looking out for our best interests,
1:20:11
Speaker 1: and you know what, well we as the people.
1:20:14
Speaker 4: It was Republicans and Democrats during Watergate that just wanted
1:20:17
Speaker 4: to find the truth.
1:20:19
Speaker 1: Was I was proud of that.
1:20:20
Speaker 4: You know, that's not where we are today.
1:20:22
Speaker 1: Unfortunately division along those lines too, and no Democrats showed
1:20:26
Speaker 1: up to this meeting when Fronsh Senator Ran Paul where
1:20:28
Speaker 1: this guy testified. Pause, We'll bring back about KRCD talk
1:20:34
Speaker 1: Station brad Winsterpin Studio. Former congressmen still involved in the
1:20:39
Speaker 1: COVID concealment issue and it definitely was concealed. Doctor Anthony
1:20:42
Speaker 1: Fauci's fingerprints all over it. Maybe you can ask yourself
1:20:45
Speaker 1: the out loud question why I think maybe there's a
1:20:48
Speaker 1: money connection here, of course, but the idea that it
1:20:50
Speaker 1: came from a lab was pretty much known by everyone
1:20:53
Speaker 1: involved until Fauci got involved and he had his own
1:20:56
Speaker 1: hand selected group of scientists say no, no, no, this
1:20:58
Speaker 1: was a naturally occurring phenomena. I really and talking with
1:21:04
Speaker 1: Congressman Winstrop about this, and then pivoting over to the
1:21:07
Speaker 1: CIA's refusal to produce the documents, by the fact that
1:21:11
Speaker 1: Congress passing unanimous law telling them they must produce this.
1:21:14
Speaker 1: This is years ago, still haven't been produced. Congressman off air,
1:21:19
Speaker 1: you said, this reveals the partisan reality of the CIA.
1:21:23
Speaker 1: It is made up of partisans, obviously favoring Democrats. How
1:21:29
Speaker 1: is it that the lab leak theory versus a naturally
1:21:33
Speaker 1: occurring mutation of a virus theory? How does that be
1:21:37
Speaker 1: become a Republican Democrat thing.
1:21:40
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've said from the beginning, COVID nineteen
1:21:44
Speaker 4: should have been a moment like nine to eleven. This
1:21:47
Speaker 4: was really an attack on our country and people were dying, right,
1:21:51
Speaker 4: and we should want to know where this came from
1:21:54
Speaker 4: and how it happened. And interestingly, you know all the
1:21:59
Speaker 4: fingerprints are in China, right, So why didn't this unite America? Well,
1:22:04
Speaker 4: because we had people that had personal motivations. And look,
1:22:08
Speaker 4: you talk about the Biden administration for example, did you
1:22:11
Speaker 4: ever hear Joe Biden say anything negative about China?
1:22:15
Speaker 8: No?
1:22:15
Speaker 4: No, I mean I'm gonna take this a little bit
1:22:17
Speaker 4: step further. And I and and you know, just food
1:22:21
Speaker 4: for thought for your audience. Oh no, No, go ahead, Okay,
1:22:23
Speaker 4: where this is going? Yeah, because you know there's there's
1:22:27
Speaker 4: ways of people being compromised. I remember Joe Biden on
1:22:29
Speaker 4: his way out of office said Donald Trump is going
1:22:32
Speaker 4: to run the country by oligarchs. Well that may be
1:22:37
Speaker 4: to a degree if you want to make that connection.
1:22:41
Speaker 4: But Donald Trump's oligarchs are Americans. Joe biden family oligarchs
1:22:49
Speaker 4: were Russian, Chinese, Ukrainian. Where was his son getting all
1:22:56
Speaker 4: these positions and collecting money? Okay, so put that aside.
1:23:00
Speaker 4: But the point I want to make is you had
1:23:04
Speaker 4: too many people within our own government wanting to do
1:23:07
Speaker 4: this with China to create these pathogens. And again I
1:23:12
Speaker 4: could only surmise going back to twenty twelve, where you
1:23:16
Speaker 4: know Fauci's all for gain of function research in his
1:23:21
Speaker 4: mind if we can speed up evolution, if we can
1:23:25
Speaker 4: create something that may occur in nature and do it
1:23:27
Speaker 4: in the lab and at the same time be able
1:23:30
Speaker 4: to create the vaccine for it, then I'm the hero.
1:23:34
Speaker 4: We're the heroes. You know, we've done this. And interestingly,
1:23:39
Speaker 4: it takes a while to create a vaccine once you
1:23:41
Speaker 4: have a virus. But China, a scientist in China, within
1:23:46
Speaker 4: two months after the sequence became public was offering was
1:23:51
Speaker 4: trying to get a patent on a vaccine. It doesn't
1:23:54
Speaker 4: happen in two months normally, yet he was doing that.
1:23:57
Speaker 4: So that kind of would tell you, well, they've already
1:24:00
Speaker 4: had it. They've been doing it so that there's reasons
1:24:02
Speaker 4: for the cover up. But to go all the way
1:24:05
Speaker 4: into the CIA to support covering this.
1:24:08
Speaker 1: Up for the benefit of the Chinese Communist Party ultimately,
1:24:11
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that Erdmann testified to
1:24:13
Speaker 1: There is this undercurrent within the CIA, you don't want
1:24:16
Speaker 1: to make the Chinese look bad, and one might think, well,
1:24:20
Speaker 1: the CIA has concluded that, you know, geopolitical relations make
1:24:23
Speaker 1: would be strained or harmed if we let the world
1:24:26
Speaker 1: know that the Chinese were taken her with viruses that
1:24:28
Speaker 1: result in everybody getting locked down and told they can't
1:24:31
Speaker 1: go to church. Oh boy, bad for relations. Well, you
1:24:34
Speaker 1: know what, screw that. But the point is you can't
1:24:36
Speaker 1: be critical the Chinese Communist Party at all. And the
1:24:39
Speaker 1: scientist that Fauci was working with, as Erdman observed, are
1:24:42
Speaker 1: surrounded by Chinese Communist Party people who are working on
1:24:46
Speaker 1: the same research that used to support this bat cave theory. Nonsense.
1:24:53
Speaker 1: They're all in a protectionist environment, all designed to protect
1:24:56
Speaker 1: the interest of the Chinese Communist Party. That's what That's
1:24:59
Speaker 1: the takeaway I took you. Did you hear anything or
1:25:01
Speaker 1: do you know anything that's contrary to that?
1:25:02
Speaker 4: That's the feeling that I get. It's like, you can't
1:25:05
Speaker 4: go there if.
1:25:06
Speaker 1: You're looking for a motivation.
1:25:07
Speaker 6: You know what, what?
1:25:08
Speaker 1: Why did they want to do? All this signs point
1:25:12
Speaker 1: to protecting China's I guess good name, Yeah.
1:25:17
Speaker 4: And that would go against you know where I am
1:25:20
Speaker 4: because there's art of diplomacy. I understand those types of
1:25:25
Speaker 4: things that may come into play, But at the same time,
1:25:30
Speaker 4: there's so much that involved with truth and virtue and
1:25:36
Speaker 4: and being sincere that just isn't there. It just doesn't
1:25:40
Speaker 4: matter anymore. And think about this. You you look at Russia,
1:25:46
Speaker 4: Soviet Union, China. When it comes to communism, nothing's a
1:25:51
Speaker 4: lie if it benefits the state, lying is an okay thing,
1:25:57
Speaker 4: and so lying within the CIA is sometimes okay.
1:26:02
Speaker 1: Yep, right, you're you know. You remind me of when
1:26:04
Speaker 1: I lived in Chicago. The Democrats corruption. It's okay, it's
1:26:07
Speaker 1: our corruption. We know all about it, but we're betting
1:26:09
Speaker 1: the benefit of it. There's your answer right there. We'll
1:26:11
Speaker 1: continue with former Congressman Winster more on this topic seventh
1:26:15
Speaker 1: thirty six. Right now, if you have KRCD talk station
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1:26:26
Speaker 1: here as they typically are here with Brad Weinster, former Congressman,
1:26:29
Speaker 1: still intergrallly involved in what's going on, and most notably
1:26:32
Speaker 1: with this gain of function research, the cover up that
1:26:35
Speaker 1: it was a cover up. It always was a lab leak,
1:26:38
Speaker 1: and we have doctor Fauci and our crazy, apparently very
1:26:42
Speaker 1: biased friends in the CIA did their best to try
1:26:45
Speaker 1: to convince you that it was a naturally occurring phenomenon.
1:26:48
Speaker 1: So question why, Well, the answer may be the CIA
1:26:51
Speaker 1: is inherently biased to protect the China, which is frightening
1:26:54
Speaker 1: as it could possibly be. Doctor Fauci had a massive
1:26:57
Speaker 1: financial interest and apparently wanted to be the savior of
1:27:00
Speaker 1: the world after having unleashed this on the planet. Not
1:27:03
Speaker 1: himself personally, but he's the one that sponsored and had
1:27:06
Speaker 1: paid for the gain of function research, which was prohibited
1:27:09
Speaker 1: by law. So this is all absolutely awful. But going
1:27:12
Speaker 1: back to the CIA sitting on thousands, presumably of pages
1:27:15
Speaker 1: of COVID documents and gain of function or rather origin documents,
1:27:21
Speaker 1: they still haven't produced them. And I'll never ever walk
1:27:24
Speaker 1: away from that reality. We need to get those produced.
1:27:27
Speaker 1: But having heard the testimony James Erdman, the whistleblower, I mean,
1:27:31
Speaker 1: how do you clean house in the CIA? This isn't
1:27:35
Speaker 1: We are in desperate need of what I would argue,
1:27:39
Speaker 1: non political patriots going back to the job looking after
1:27:42
Speaker 1: the interest in the United States of America, and it's
1:27:43
Speaker 1: citizen congress or former congressman, weinstroup.
1:27:46
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the military is the only place in
1:27:48
Speaker 4: our federal government where unethical is unlawful. We have uniform
1:27:53
Speaker 4: code of military justice. You'll be prosecuted. You're going to jail.
1:27:56
Speaker 4: In the agencies, they've been getting away with things for
1:27:59
Speaker 4: a long while, long time. But let's bring up one
1:28:02
Speaker 4: other thing too, because I you know, you're in the minority,
1:28:08
Speaker 4: you know, or you may be in the We were
1:28:09
Speaker 4: in the majority in the House, but Biden had the
1:28:12
Speaker 4: White House, and I got to work with those that
1:28:16
Speaker 4: are in the positions that they're in. And I established
1:28:20
Speaker 4: a good relationship with the CIA directors, especially on things
1:28:25
Speaker 4: that we could agree in, especially in health for CIA agents,
1:28:31
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. But anyway, in a relationship with him,
1:28:34
Speaker 4: and I was privileged. He had me come to Langley
1:28:38
Speaker 4: and he showed me some things associated with.
1:28:43
Speaker 1: Lab league versus not OK. And interesting enough those things
1:28:49
Speaker 1: were not produced pursuing to the congressional mandate.
1:28:51
Speaker 4: Yeah they were not.
1:28:54
Speaker 1: They were not.
1:28:55
Speaker 4: And anyway, I just I just had a feeling and
1:29:00
Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised that before he left. At the end
1:29:05
Speaker 4: of the Biden administration, you may recall, the CIA director
1:29:09
Speaker 4: came out and said, we have new evidence. We now
1:29:14
Speaker 4: believe it came from the LAB. Do you remember this,
1:29:17
Speaker 4: because it wasn't that long ago, but it was on
1:29:19
Speaker 4: his way out the door, because certainly John Ratcliffe was
1:29:23
Speaker 4: going to have access to these things as well. Okay,
1:29:28
Speaker 4: so that didn't surprise me when he made that move.
1:29:32
Speaker 4: I'm glad he did, but that was kind of a
1:29:36
Speaker 4: washing of his hands, I think, to say, I cannot
1:29:41
Speaker 4: be I can't walk out the door with all this
1:29:45
Speaker 4: stuff sitting here and stick with what the CIA gave about.
1:29:50
Speaker 4: My opinion is if he had done that any sooner,
1:29:54
Speaker 4: he probably would have been fired by the president.
1:29:57
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
1:29:58
Speaker 4: That's just my opinion.
1:30:00
Speaker 1: Back to the idea that the Democrats don't want us
1:30:04
Speaker 1: to know, or at least didn't want us to know.
1:30:06
Speaker 1: We know now in spite of their best efforts. But
1:30:10
Speaker 1: the idea that as a party they just wanted to
1:30:16
Speaker 1: deprive us of this valuable important information, I just I
1:30:20
Speaker 1: don't get that.
1:30:21
Speaker 4: And it's it's it goes against what we think as
1:30:25
Speaker 4: Americans and how we were brought up truth justice American way.
1:30:31
Speaker 4: You know again, you know Watergate, it was Republicans and
1:30:36
Speaker 4: Democrats just wanting the truth.
1:30:38
Speaker 1: Nixon.
1:30:39
Speaker 4: You know, that's not where we are today. And within communism,
1:30:45
Speaker 4: it's not a lie if it benefits the state, it's.
1:30:48
Speaker 5: Just what we do.
1:30:49
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, going back to Russia. They made it up
1:30:51
Speaker 1: and they stuck to it, and they tried to impeach
1:30:53
Speaker 1: the president based on a lie. They knew it was
1:30:55
Speaker 1: a lie, and yet they presented it to the American
1:30:57
Speaker 1: people as the stone hold cold truth, lying constantly to
1:31:02
Speaker 1: achieve their objective.
1:31:04
Speaker 4: And when I asked Democrats on Intel Committee how they
1:31:06
Speaker 4: felt when they realized that they paid for the fake
1:31:11
Speaker 4: dossier that led to all this, not one of them
1:31:13
Speaker 4: looked at me.
1:31:14
Speaker 1: Kept their heads down. They kept their heads down in
1:31:17
Speaker 1: shame and embarrassment.
1:31:18
Speaker 4: And you know, I was asked once by a reporter,
1:31:21
Speaker 4: I don't want to call it a journalist, because a
1:31:23
Speaker 4: reporters said to me when I was leading the Pandemic Committee,
1:31:26
Speaker 4: so are you going after any Republicans? And I said,
1:31:29
Speaker 4: I don't know what party they are. They're in the agencies.
1:31:32
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised to know. Our agents don't run as
1:31:35
Speaker 1: D or R when they're being hired, although you know,
1:31:37
Speaker 1: there's enough questions asked of a new hire whether or
1:31:39
Speaker 1: not they fall down to the left or the right
1:31:41
Speaker 1: side of the Ledger. We need to get rid of
1:31:43
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1:32:02
Speaker 1: Weinstrup we a little bit more on the topic of
1:32:05
Speaker 1: the COVID cover up, which also included a cover up
1:32:07
Speaker 1: of all the dangers associated with the vaccine that we
1:32:10
Speaker 1: were told we had to do under penalty of getting
1:32:12
Speaker 1: our jobs are getting fired or I mean, the intrusion
1:32:17
Speaker 1: on our civil rights and liberties cannot be understated.
1:32:20
Speaker 4: That is first and foremost. But at the same time
1:32:24
Speaker 4: it didn't even make scientific sense.
1:32:27
Speaker 1: No, in fact, she knew that as well. Why would
1:32:29
Speaker 1: he tell us to stand six feet apart he didn't
1:32:31
Speaker 1: have any basis in fact for that. Why would he
1:32:32
Speaker 1: tell us to take first off, don't bother wearing a
1:32:35
Speaker 1: mask because it's not going to do a damn thing
1:32:36
Speaker 1: for you, and then say you all have must wear
1:32:38
Speaker 1: a mask. Nonsense.
1:32:40
Speaker 4: It's really hard right now for this administration to try
1:32:43
Speaker 4: and restore trust in public health.
1:32:45
Speaker 1: They don't deserve trust.
1:32:46
Speaker 4: And when you think about it too, you know you
1:32:49
Speaker 4: might be replacing secretaries and directors.
1:32:52
Speaker 1: But not everybody in the departments.
1:32:55
Speaker 4: That's right. I mean this goes across AHHS. And I
1:32:58
Speaker 4: know they're trying, you know, I just did a one
1:33:01
Speaker 4: on one with Secretary Kennedy in Cleveland last week. I mean,
1:33:04
Speaker 4: I know they're trying to get rid of of the
1:33:07
Speaker 4: bad people and cut out what they don't need. But
1:33:09
Speaker 4: that going back to that, it was just obscene that
1:33:12
Speaker 4: they were making people do this. And it wasn't based
1:33:15
Speaker 4: on science. It wasn't your doctor telling you that you
1:33:19
Speaker 4: need to get this vaccine. And I'll give you an example, Brian,
1:33:22
Speaker 4: I was going to Germany and they told me that
1:33:25
Speaker 4: I needed to have a booster before I could go.
1:33:27
Speaker 4: And I said why, Well, they couldn't answer that, and.
1:33:30
Speaker 1: It was a COVID booster. Yeah, And you mean the
1:33:33
Speaker 1: vaccine that doesn't prevent you from getting COVID nineteen.
1:33:35
Speaker 4: Right, And I had that one and which which way
1:33:37
Speaker 4: I knew, also.
1:33:38
Speaker 1: Could give you micarditis and all kinds of other health
1:33:40
Speaker 1: risks they knew about and didn't pass along to us
1:33:42
Speaker 1: as well, Brian.
1:33:43
Speaker 4: Which we knew from the trials. Look, I got the
1:33:46
Speaker 4: I got two doses of Pfizer. I felt in emergency use.
1:33:50
Speaker 4: I fell in the category by age, not by any
1:33:52
Speaker 4: underlying illness, but by age that I was vulnerable. So
1:33:56
Speaker 4: I did it to me in my situation. I thought
1:34:01
Speaker 4: benefits outweigh the risk based on what we know at
1:34:04
Speaker 4: this time. This is who's dying, right, my age?
1:34:07
Speaker 1: All right? So I got it.
1:34:08
Speaker 9: Then.
1:34:09
Speaker 4: The only reason I knew six months later that I
1:34:11
Speaker 4: got COVID is because I was cooking and couldn't smell
1:34:14
Speaker 4: garlic salt, and I said, I remember I had a
1:34:17
Speaker 4: chill last week. It was probably COVID. So I'm going
1:34:20
Speaker 4: to Germany. They tell me I need a booster. I said, well,
1:34:22
Speaker 4: let's check my antibodies and tea cells first, go right,
1:34:26
Speaker 4: and let's let's be doctors here. You know, because I
1:34:29
Speaker 4: was talking to a nurse and he said, well, we
1:34:31
Speaker 4: can't do the tea cells. We can do antibodies. Okay,
1:34:34
Speaker 4: let's get that. So you draw blood.
1:34:36
Speaker 1: I get it.
1:34:37
Speaker 4: I get my results. Strong number was forty. My number
1:34:41
Speaker 4: was eight hundred and twenty one. Yeah, that's in our
1:34:45
Speaker 4: pandemic report. I just I submitted it for the record.
1:34:48
Speaker 4: You know that that is in there. I was like,
1:34:51
Speaker 4: no doctor would sit here and say you've got to
1:34:53
Speaker 4: have this booster because you're at risk.
1:34:57
Speaker 1: And it's like, though, no, I'm not answer the qu
1:35:00
Speaker 1: question for Maureen, who's probably listening right now, why the
1:35:04
Speaker 1: pressure to get it? Why were we all forced to
1:35:09
Speaker 1: do something that might not have been in our best
1:35:11
Speaker 1: interests from maybe an ethical standpoint, a moral standpoint, maybe
1:35:15
Speaker 1: someone like a scientologist who doesn't believe in modern medicine
1:35:18
Speaker 1: or a Christian scientist who doesn't believe in modern medicine.
1:35:22
Speaker 1: We were forced to do it. I didn't do it.
1:35:24
Speaker 1: I didn't get the damn vaccine. I had COVID, I
1:35:25
Speaker 1: got antibodies, the even hit a T cell test and
1:35:27
Speaker 1: I was off the charts and turns my immunity. So
1:35:30
Speaker 1: what what nefarious omen was behind that? And what was
1:35:34
Speaker 1: the motive from forcing us all in the penalty of
1:35:36
Speaker 1: losing our jobs and everything else.
1:35:38
Speaker 4: Well, you have a certain groups of people certain Well
1:35:41
Speaker 4: there's money, that's that's one, you know, you you create
1:35:46
Speaker 4: a vaccine, you need a customer, and you know money,
1:35:50
Speaker 4: money can be part of it, but also the belief
1:35:55
Speaker 4: in many ways by some that you know, let's ignore
1:35:59
Speaker 4: that we might have created this virus, but we're the
1:36:02
Speaker 4: ones protecting you, and here's how we're going to do it.
1:36:06
Speaker 1: With a vaccine that is documented to cause any number
1:36:09
Speaker 1: of health problems.
1:36:11
Speaker 4: And what we discovered also during our Pandemic Committee report,
1:36:16
Speaker 4: if it's in our report, is our vaccine injury program
1:36:20
Speaker 4: is not equipped for what it should be. And to
1:36:24
Speaker 4: some degree I get that because you only have so
1:36:26
Speaker 4: many people around if you haven't had vaccine injuries for years,
1:36:30
Speaker 4: you hopefully don't have a large department, but you need
1:36:33
Speaker 4: to have people ready, kind of like army reserve, which
1:36:36
Speaker 4: I was that when the flag goes up, you have
1:36:39
Speaker 4: people that can process these claims of vaccine injuries. And
1:36:43
Speaker 4: that's one of our recommendations.
1:36:45
Speaker 1: See what they ever act on it, Brad Winster. But
1:36:47
Speaker 1: it's been a real pleasure to have any you in
1:36:48
Speaker 1: here spent a whole hour on this particular topic. But
1:36:50
Speaker 1: I think it's such vital importance given the revelations from
1:36:53
Speaker 1: James Erdman that I recommend my listeners all check out.
1:36:57
Speaker 1: I found the link. There's a whole hour and a
1:36:59
Speaker 1: half there, so testimony on brightbart dot com. At least
1:37:01
Speaker 1: listen to his opening statement. It is mind blowing and
1:37:05
Speaker 1: this has legs and it's not going away anytime soon.
1:37:07
Speaker 1: From what I can tell.
1:37:09
Speaker 4: We can't let it.
1:37:09
Speaker 1: No, we cannot. Congressman former Congressman Winstrom, thank you for
1:37:13
Speaker 1: your time today. I'll look forward to having me back
1:37:14
Speaker 1: in the studio real soon.
1:37:15
Speaker 4: Pleasure.
1:37:16
Speaker 1: Brian.
1:37:16
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me today. It was very timely.
1:37:18
Speaker 1: You're always welcome here. Coming up on seven fifty seven
1:37:21
Speaker 1: and coming up on after the top of the our
1:37:22
Speaker 1: new is David Taylor at O six and fifty five
1:37:24
Speaker 1: Pari Seed he talkstation Thomas wishing everyone a very happy Friday,
1:37:29
Speaker 1: inviting you to stick around all the whole hour. Jack
1:37:31
Speaker 1: Winsor from the hot Press Network on the bottom of
1:37:33
Speaker 1: the hour on the Hio Medicaid scandal, which is just outrageous,
1:37:37
Speaker 1: plus Ohio's ed Choice program, and good morning to my
1:37:40
Speaker 1: friends over at since a classical academy which I visited yesterday.
1:37:44
Speaker 1: What a great school that is. We need more of those,
1:37:46
Speaker 1: and that's one of the benefits of education choice. Welcome
1:37:49
Speaker 1: back to the fifty five Case Morning Show, Congressman David Taylor.
1:37:52
Speaker 1: It's always a distinct pleasure to have you on the
1:37:53
Speaker 1: morning show, sir.
1:37:56
Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian, thank you for having me back. And
1:37:58
Speaker 8: was over at this since Matty Classical Academy's ribbon cutting
1:38:01
Speaker 8: and that place is amazing.
1:38:02
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you, Congresson Taylor. I specifically mentioned
1:38:05
Speaker 1: them again. I started the morning show out because I
1:38:07
Speaker 1: toured it yesterday. All my word, what an amazing, amazing
1:38:12
Speaker 1: and you know, people are lining up around the block.
1:38:14
Speaker 1: More than seventy zip codes serve people driving from as
1:38:17
Speaker 1: far as Hillsboro to get to the school because they all,
1:38:21
Speaker 1: my word, you know, if you build it, they will come.
1:38:23
Speaker 1: And the weird thing about it, because your name did
1:38:25
Speaker 1: come up during my tour as a big supporter and
1:38:27
Speaker 1: you were at the ribbon cutting ceremony, how much the
1:38:29
Speaker 1: teachers Union stood in the way of them making any
1:38:32
Speaker 1: progress toward opening. Every time they saw a building or
1:38:35
Speaker 1: looked at a property, the teachers Union would rally around
1:38:38
Speaker 1: and prevent them from acquiring a building. Wow, I mean
1:38:41
Speaker 1: that's nefarious, it is.
1:38:43
Speaker 8: And it's unfortunate but what they do there is incredible work.
1:38:47
Speaker 8: And I don't know what the current number is, but
1:38:49
Speaker 8: Dave has had a huge number of families wanted to
1:38:52
Speaker 8: find their kids there. They just didn't have enough space
1:38:54
Speaker 8: for you. So hopefully they are able to expand.
1:38:57
Speaker 1: Well, they have two schools now. It's believe we K
1:39:00
Speaker 1: through four in the one building and then five through
1:39:05
Speaker 1: not I could have it wrong. They have up to
1:39:06
Speaker 1: ninth grade. They add a year every year, so soon
1:39:08
Speaker 1: they'll have a full K through twelve. But no, there
1:39:10
Speaker 1: are hundreds and hundreds of people that don't get an
1:39:13
Speaker 1: option or don't get an opportunity to go. They have
1:39:14
Speaker 1: a wait list and more people apply to get into
1:39:18
Speaker 1: the school than are available. So it's just the pent
1:39:21
Speaker 1: up demand is so obvious and so illustrated by the
1:39:23
Speaker 1: successes since at Classical, and what an amazing environment. Those
1:39:27
Speaker 1: children are so well behaved. The one thing I noted
1:39:29
Speaker 1: right away the way they pointed it out, there are
1:39:31
Speaker 1: lockers in that building, and I'm sure you've seen at
1:39:33
Speaker 1: the upper campus or lower campus there's not a single
1:39:36
Speaker 1: lock on any of the lockers. Children there do not steal,
1:39:40
Speaker 1: They just don't, right, Nope. Ethics and more an amazing place.
1:39:45
Speaker 1: We need to try to replicate it as many places
1:39:48
Speaker 1: as we can. We do, and that's really one of
1:39:50
Speaker 1: the reasons I brought it up, because the demand is
1:39:51
Speaker 1: so huge. More schools like that would benefit our young
1:39:54
Speaker 1: people immeasurably, and of course that benefits America generally speaking.
1:39:58
Speaker 1: Congressman Taylor A talked for since the primary elections, do
1:40:02
Speaker 1: you get your reaction any of them stand out to
1:40:05
Speaker 1: you or do you draw any conclusions. I knew the
1:40:06
Speaker 1: turnout was a little subpar, but maybe a little bit
1:40:09
Speaker 1: better than normal primary elections.
1:40:13
Speaker 8: Yeah, the turnout ended up being pretty decent for what
1:40:17
Speaker 8: it was. Our primary went well, which I was relieved
1:40:21
Speaker 8: to have that behind me. But you know, I think
1:40:24
Speaker 8: generally things were pretty positive. I think it was you know,
1:40:27
Speaker 8: there was a sort of a concern about enthusiasm on
1:40:32
Speaker 8: the Republican side there, and I think that proved to
1:40:34
Speaker 8: be fall through. What we saw in Indiana was was impressive.
1:40:38
Speaker 8: So I think generally was it was a good primary season.
1:40:41
Speaker 8: And when how we have to ramp upon keep the
1:40:44
Speaker 8: enthusiasm through November.
1:40:46
Speaker 1: Well, I'm like, I'm hoping that we do. And Conservatives
1:40:49
Speaker 1: a little libertarians like myself, whatever, going up and getting
1:40:52
Speaker 1: up and voting. I know a lot of people, and
1:40:53
Speaker 1: rightfully so, are angry about inflation. The numbers spike pretty
1:40:56
Speaker 1: significantly because of the closing of the Strait of Horror
1:40:58
Speaker 1: Mouves and who knew that that one small stretch of
1:41:01
Speaker 1: waterway could have that such a profound impact on the globe.
1:41:04
Speaker 1: But of course November elections typically is in the off
1:41:07
Speaker 1: year cycle. The party in the presidency loses, and that's
1:41:10
Speaker 1: what the Democrats are hoping for. But I can't imagine
1:41:14
Speaker 1: rewarding the insanity from the Democrats by either sitting at
1:41:18
Speaker 1: home or do you think anyone would actually vote for
1:41:20
Speaker 1: a Democrat if they're typically voting Republican, because well, gasoline's
1:41:24
Speaker 1: four dollars and fifty cents a gallon.
1:41:27
Speaker 8: I don't think he'll do that. But what you've touched
1:41:31
Speaker 8: on there is the concern they just won't go vote
1:41:33
Speaker 8: at all. What you know, what I see among conservative
1:41:37
Speaker 8: voters is they don't compare the candidate against their opponent.
1:41:43
Speaker 8: They compare the candidate against the candidate they wish they had. Yeah,
1:41:48
Speaker 8: and if they don't have a candidate they wish they had,
1:41:51
Speaker 8: then they're not you know, as motivated to go vote,
1:41:53
Speaker 8: but if we can, as you said, convince them that
1:41:57
Speaker 8: the comparison should be between the absolute lunar see of
1:42:00
Speaker 8: the left and the conservative candidate in your district. Need
1:42:04
Speaker 8: to get out there and vote, or your state or nationally,
1:42:06
Speaker 8: whatever case may be. If you don't know, vote for
1:42:11
Speaker 8: the conservative side, you might as well be voting for
1:42:14
Speaker 8: the other side, because you're making their path a lot easier.
1:42:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. And one of the things
1:42:19
Speaker 1: that actually was an op ed piece that I read
1:42:21
Speaker 1: from earlier this morning about school choice, going back, for example,
1:42:26
Speaker 1: to the Sinsi Classical Academy. That's a winning issue. I mean,
1:42:30
Speaker 1: and you have this this this program out there, the
1:42:33
Speaker 1: sevent seventeen hundred dollars tax credit for donating to you know,
1:42:39
Speaker 1: institutes of learning that will you know, private schools and
1:42:41
Speaker 1: the like. You get a tax credit for doing that.
1:42:43
Speaker 1: You have to adopt that program. All the Republican states
1:42:45
Speaker 1: mostly have adopted it and embraced it. Democrat states don't,
1:42:48
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that school choice polls really
1:42:51
Speaker 1: well among Democrats. Independence folks of different you know, skin
1:42:54
Speaker 1: colors or however, they pull these things. Everyone wants it,
1:42:58
Speaker 1: and yet the Democrats are against it. I mean, your
1:42:59
Speaker 1: vote against your own best interest.
1:43:03
Speaker 8: Well, I think the thought process behind that, Brian is
1:43:07
Speaker 8: if they don't send them through the schools where they
1:43:09
Speaker 8: know the curriculum has all tilted their way, they're going
1:43:13
Speaker 8: to lose voters in the long run, even though in
1:43:15
Speaker 8: the short term they might be frustrating some of their voters.
1:43:18
Speaker 8: But to your point earlier, if we don't do something
1:43:20
Speaker 8: about that issue, what's going on in our schools and
1:43:24
Speaker 8: what's the end product we're getting out of our schools.
1:43:27
Speaker 8: Fixing everything else that we're working on right now will
1:43:30
Speaker 8: be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. We really
1:43:34
Speaker 8: have to address that piece and unapologetically. And school choice
1:43:38
Speaker 8: is a big, big part of how.
1:43:39
Speaker 1: We do that well. And consider you're you're you're phrasing
1:43:43
Speaker 1: and explaining why they are where they are on school choice.
1:43:46
Speaker 1: They don't want someone to be deprived of the indoctrination
1:43:50
Speaker 1: that they know they're going to get it and go
1:43:51
Speaker 1: to a public school.
1:43:53
Speaker 8: Talk about nefarious, right, I mean, yeah, I think about
1:43:57
Speaker 8: that a lot, Brian, and it's a big concern. It
1:44:01
Speaker 8: It feels like an intractable problems. It's so pervasive, but
1:44:05
Speaker 8: it's really got to be tackled.
1:44:07
Speaker 1: Those certainly does. And the way you tackle that you
1:44:09
Speaker 1: get up and vote in spite of the fact that
1:44:11
Speaker 1: the great guy that you wanted isn't the one that
1:44:13
Speaker 1: got the primary win. Just a good guy certainly much
1:44:16
Speaker 1: better than the Democrat opposition you face. So don't do
1:44:19
Speaker 1: something it's against our collective best interest, and don't support
1:44:22
Speaker 1: this this in doctrination system that we are currently stuck
1:44:26
Speaker 1: with in many cases. Let us see here pivoting over inflation,
1:44:31
Speaker 1: driven again by the war in Iran. We're currently still
1:44:35
Speaker 1: in some sort of cease fire. Another effort by the
1:44:39
Speaker 1: Senate to, you know, do a war powers authorization otherwise
1:44:43
Speaker 1: pull the plug on funding. I guess I wonder I personally,
1:44:48
Speaker 1: and I'm on record, I think that Congress should have
1:44:50
Speaker 1: been involved, either through a war powers authorization or through
1:44:52
Speaker 1: a declaration of war. We weren't in an eminent threat
1:44:55
Speaker 1: from my perspective, but you know, the genies out of
1:44:57
Speaker 1: the bottle. We launched missiles and bombs, and around the
1:44:59
Speaker 1: Middle we're in the after making great progress against the Iranians.
1:45:03
Speaker 1: Of this discussion over how to stop the conflict or
1:45:06
Speaker 1: maybe start bombing again. What would happen if the plug
1:45:13
Speaker 1: was pulled or a war powers authorization was issued? We
1:45:16
Speaker 1: just going to walk away from it. That doesn't seem
1:45:19
Speaker 1: like a very good option. Congressman Taylor, Yeah, I.
1:45:23
Speaker 8: Don't like that option either, and I don't think we'll
1:45:25
Speaker 8: see that. You know and understand the frustration, But we
1:45:30
Speaker 8: decided that this needed to be done based on our
1:45:32
Speaker 8: intelligence that and obviously I think most of us know
1:45:35
Speaker 8: for a decade something should have been done about Iran,
1:45:39
Speaker 8: but we determined it it needed to be done, and
1:45:42
Speaker 8: that determination wasn't it needs to be done. If we
1:45:45
Speaker 8: can get it done within five weeks, it has to
1:45:48
Speaker 8: be done. And then we hope that we get it
1:45:49
Speaker 8: done in five weeks. But if we don't, we still
1:45:52
Speaker 8: have to finish the job. And the geography of the
1:45:55
Speaker 8: straight or horror moves makes it easy, a pinch point
1:45:58
Speaker 8: where a handful of you know, pretty basic, not highly
1:46:03
Speaker 8: technological terrorists can create some real problems in that area.
1:46:06
Speaker 8: But hopefully the President's visit with President Sheet of China
1:46:11
Speaker 8: and their agreement to cooperating the system that enforcing the
1:46:16
Speaker 8: opening of the straight uh horror moves will make a
1:46:18
Speaker 8: big difference. I know that sometimes they say they're going
1:46:22
Speaker 8: to do things, then they don't have to watch that carefully.
1:46:24
Speaker 8: But if they actually get on board with that, I
1:46:26
Speaker 8: think we could have an open straight here pretty soon,
1:46:31
Speaker 8: and that's going to have a profound downward impact on inflation.
1:46:34
Speaker 1: Let's pause, We'll bring Congressman David Taylor back. Got to
1:46:37
Speaker 1: break here, and we'll bring it right back. Talk a
1:46:38
Speaker 1: little bit more about the situation. Also the fifty five
1:46:42
Speaker 1: KCD talk station Ryan Thomas with Congressman and David Taylor,
1:46:46
Speaker 1: kind of staying in the region, the straight of Horror moves,
1:46:48
Speaker 1: and of course the conflict with Iranians. President Jijinping and
1:46:51
Speaker 1: Donald Trump of course met for this, you know, very
1:46:53
Speaker 1: very broad based set of conversations, you know, trade and relationships.
1:46:58
Speaker 1: Of course, Taiwan came up. We got kind of a
1:47:00
Speaker 1: veiled threat from the Chinese Foreign Ministry about Taiwan, saying
1:47:04
Speaker 1: the two countries will have clashes and even conflicts, plunging
1:47:08
Speaker 1: the entire relationship in great jeopardy if it isn't handled
1:47:11
Speaker 1: property properly. I guess I have to ask Congressman Taylor
1:47:16
Speaker 1: use the cough. I apologize. China is suffering from the
1:47:19
Speaker 1: straight of horror news closure as well, are they not.
1:47:24
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, they get a buy a ton of their
1:47:27
Speaker 8: oil from Iran, and they're a very energy dependent nation.
1:47:31
Speaker 8: They're trying to fix that through solar and other things,
1:47:36
Speaker 8: but it's a very difficult situation for them when they
1:47:39
Speaker 8: can't get oil from Iran.
1:47:42
Speaker 1: So the benefit that the Chinese Communist Party does, so
1:47:46
Speaker 1: I'm not being racist. I'm talking about the Chinese Communist Party,
1:47:48
Speaker 1: which runs a whole show over there. Let's be on
1:47:50
Speaker 1: the record on that they get a benefit from our
1:47:54
Speaker 1: well using up a lot of arms and munitions and
1:47:57
Speaker 1: weapons bombing the Iranians. And there's been in all kinds
1:48:00
Speaker 1: of reports, and maybe you can correct the record if
1:48:02
Speaker 1: it's wrong, but we're kind of running out of missiles
1:48:05
Speaker 1: and weapons depleting our stores. I guess that is Some
1:48:10
Speaker 1: are suggesting China is exploiting the US around war in
1:48:13
Speaker 1: order to strengthen its own position, because of course Taiwan
1:48:16
Speaker 1: is on the table, and if we are busy and
1:48:18
Speaker 1: exhausted in terms of resources, we wouldn't be able to
1:48:21
Speaker 1: come to Taiwan's eight if we even wanted to.
1:48:24
Speaker 8: It's certainly something that's work considering no sigaretary HEGSAFS testified
1:48:30
Speaker 8: this week in front of the in Front of Committee
1:48:34
Speaker 8: that that wasn't the case. I know that production is
1:48:38
Speaker 8: being ramped up. Even right in the second District, Anderill
1:48:42
Speaker 8: is actively at work. They're building things for the military.
1:48:46
Speaker 8: And I think that this administration rightly plays pretty close
1:48:52
Speaker 8: to the vest readiness issues, which I don't think those
1:48:55
Speaker 8: things should generally be shared publicly, but definitely when you're
1:48:59
Speaker 8: using stuff. We've been sending stuff to Ukraine, and basically
1:49:05
Speaker 8: when you have that much stuff go out, are we
1:49:08
Speaker 8: are we making plenty to make sure we are in
1:49:11
Speaker 8: an advantaged position against any possible foe.
1:49:14
Speaker 1: Well, I guess my other concern is it sort of
1:49:16
Speaker 1: dovetails into that because it's widely reported. Also, the Pentagon
1:49:19
Speaker 1: leaders claim they're going to start running out of money
1:49:21
Speaker 1: for the operations this summer unless Congress passes a new
1:49:24
Speaker 1: wartime spending They've been apparently dipping into two reserves paying
1:49:30
Speaker 1: for the Iran War and other deployments out of the
1:49:32
Speaker 1: annual operations and maintenance budget, which certainly was not built
1:49:37
Speaker 1: with the additional missions in mind. So running out of money.
1:49:40
Speaker 1: This is where the power of the purse comes in.
1:49:42
Speaker 1: Do you think that Democrats would refuse to authorize additional
1:49:45
Speaker 1: spending for this as a mechanism to stop the conflict period,
1:49:48
Speaker 1: notwithstanding the fact that it would be a terrible end result.
1:49:54
Speaker 8: I certainly hope that would be the case. I know
1:49:55
Speaker 8: there's been talk of a supplemental budget request, and obviously
1:49:59
Speaker 8: there's a I think so increase in the defense budget
1:50:05
Speaker 8: proposed in the upcoming budget. So those dollars, if if
1:50:10
Speaker 8: those things go through, which they should, should be there
1:50:13
Speaker 8: for our military if needed. And certainly I don't think
1:50:17
Speaker 8: that even the Democrats would try to compromise our readiness
1:50:22
Speaker 8: in a you know, a global situation like this.
1:50:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not quite sure if I was a betting
1:50:28
Speaker 1: man which side I would bet on on that one.
1:50:30
Speaker 1: Co Davis part, we just need a couple of them,
1:50:34
Speaker 1: I know, I trust me, I'm aware of that. Any
1:50:37
Speaker 1: any final points of business for you before we part
1:50:39
Speaker 1: company today, Congressman, Well, I.
1:50:42
Speaker 8: Just want to point out, you know, our excitement about
1:50:44
Speaker 8: getting the farm bill passed the House. It's going to
1:50:46
Speaker 8: be huge for the second District. And the next big
1:50:49
Speaker 8: thing on the horizon is the what we generally call
1:50:52
Speaker 8: the Highway Bill, the surface or authorization, which is also
1:50:54
Speaker 8: going to bring a lot of great improvements and expansions
1:50:58
Speaker 8: to the to this district. So I'd say we should
1:51:02
Speaker 8: talk again in about a month and hopefully some of
1:51:04
Speaker 8: those things are well down the road.
1:51:06
Speaker 1: We will do that. Congressman Taylor apologize for saying David tonight.
1:51:10
Speaker 1: You know it's just me.
1:51:13
Speaker 8: That's okay. I'll take that well.
1:51:16
Speaker 1: You know, if either way that road goes, it's a
1:51:18
Speaker 1: compliment either direction. Release it. Blessed with you and Congressman
1:51:22
Speaker 1: Davis and David Taylor. Thank you for your time today.
1:51:23
Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. I'll look forward to that next conversation.
1:51:28
Speaker 8: I look forward to it too, my friend.
1:51:29
Speaker 1: Have a great one you too. Eight twenty five. Right now,
1:51:31
Speaker 1: stick around, we're gonna hear from Jack Winsor back station
1:51:33
Speaker 1: Happy averlright eye. You got some good plans for the weekend.
1:51:37
Speaker 1: Always please to hit this time of the week because
1:51:39
Speaker 1: we get the Ohio Press networks Jack Winsor check them
1:51:41
Speaker 1: out online the ohiopressnetwork dot com. Great reporting there and
1:51:44
Speaker 1: reposting is some really important stories, one of which we're
1:51:48
Speaker 1: talking about here in a minute critics questioning unions after
1:51:50
Speaker 1: one billion dollars in political spendings. Of course we're talking
1:51:53
Speaker 1: about teachers unions. But let us pivot over. Jack wins Or,
1:51:56
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show, My friend.
1:51:58
Speaker 1: Always great to have you on, Brian.
1:52:00
Speaker 3: It's always an honor to be here with you and
1:52:02
Speaker 3: Joe and the karc family. Thanks for having me.
1:52:04
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I enjoy our exchange every week.
1:52:06
Speaker 1: And formative it is. And I'm glad to see right
1:52:09
Speaker 1: there on top. This is explosive. The Daily Wire reporting
1:52:13
Speaker 1: on this has been mind blowing for me. Of course,
1:52:15
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Ohio Medicaid scandal, and apparently it
1:52:17
Speaker 1: just got the attention of Mike DeWine yesterday, who said
1:52:20
Speaker 1: he announced new initiatives aimed at fraud prevention. Hey, you
1:52:23
Speaker 1: got the memo. Finally, Mike, he favored in an audit
1:52:26
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four revealing the twenty twenty two data
1:52:29
Speaker 1: would show that the electronic verifications weren't being done. Jack Winsor,
1:52:33
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, because I don't get
1:52:36
Speaker 1: this now. The Daily Wires reporting points out a key
1:52:40
Speaker 1: component is mandatory Electronic Visit Verification EVV YES, which GPS
1:52:45
Speaker 1: captured the data time in the service location. It is
1:52:48
Speaker 1: required by federal law, a lat of those passing twenty sixteen,
1:52:52
Speaker 1: mandating states require EVV by at least January twenty twenty
1:52:55
Speaker 1: two for the highest risk categories, the ones we're talking
1:52:58
Speaker 1: about people family members in their own homes, providing services
1:53:03
Speaker 1: to family.
1:53:03
Speaker 8: We pay for that.
1:53:04
Speaker 1: Now, Jack, that's great. Yet in Ohio that was suspended.
1:53:10
Speaker 1: I mean even Faber said, until years ago, GPS was required.
1:53:14
Speaker 1: Now it's optional. I don't know for the life of
1:53:17
Speaker 1: me why it went away. Well, apparently Dwine woke up
1:53:21
Speaker 1: yesterday and said, oh, we've been working on this. We're
1:53:23
Speaker 1: talking about something that was supposed to be in place
1:53:25
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty. Can you solve this question for me, Jack,
1:53:28
Speaker 1: because I don't know what the hell's going on.
1:53:30
Speaker 3: Yes, and I apologize. I'm going to take a victory
1:53:33
Speaker 3: lap and I'm going to pat myself on the back.
1:53:35
Speaker 3: Please as well as state lawmaker Mike Davilla. You can
1:53:38
Speaker 3: probably see I have a copy of a report that
1:53:41
Speaker 3: I published back in May of twenty twenty five. Now
1:53:43
Speaker 3: this is important because Davilla he was probing the Medicaid
1:53:47
Speaker 3: system and he found a very troubling abdication of oversight
1:53:52
Speaker 3: in about six billion dollars of money that flowed through
1:53:56
Speaker 3: Ohio's system. Now, that money came from what's called the
1:53:59
Speaker 3: aged blind and disabled group. It is the smallest group
1:54:03
Speaker 3: that Medicaid covers, but it accounts for almost half of
1:54:07
Speaker 3: Ohio's Medicaid spending. So this is what kicked it off. Now,
1:54:11
Speaker 3: the home healthcare provisions that you're talking about are actually
1:54:15
Speaker 3: in that age blind and disabled category. And so kudos
1:54:20
Speaker 3: to Mike Devilla, and frankly, kudos to Keith Faber, who
1:54:24
Speaker 3: for a couple of years had been working with the
1:54:26
Speaker 3: Dwine administration trying to get the permissions he needed to
1:54:29
Speaker 3: go in and look under the hood. Those permissions never came.
1:54:33
Speaker 3: It was actually Mike de Villa who put into the
1:54:36
Speaker 3: state budget, the last by anion budget, five million dollars
1:54:40
Speaker 3: for the auditor's office plus enhanced permissions that have allowed
1:54:44
Speaker 3: Faber to go in now. And by the way, that
1:54:45
Speaker 3: investigation is still ongoing. We're uncovering more and more and more.
1:54:50
Speaker 3: But all of that to say, Keith Faber had previously
1:54:54
Speaker 3: tried to do investigative work, and the Medicaid Apartment rejected him.
1:54:58
Speaker 3: That's number one.
1:55:00
Speaker 1: It's his job to do that.
1:55:02
Speaker 3: It is his job. But what we've heard from him
1:55:05
Speaker 3: and from others in the Dwine administration is that they
1:55:08
Speaker 3: cried things like hip a violation, privacy, so on and
1:55:11
Speaker 3: so forth, and they were trying to do everything they
1:55:14
Speaker 3: could to get the information they needed. So we knew
1:55:17
Speaker 3: that this was a mess. But I want to hit
1:55:20
Speaker 3: what you hit because that came out. It was actually
1:55:22
Speaker 3: their fifth or sixth report the Daily Wire, Yeah I'm
1:55:25
Speaker 3: talking about, and they uncovered that this electronic visit verification,
1:55:32
Speaker 3: which is required, which is what you said, by federal law,
1:55:36
Speaker 3: it was basically made optional.
1:55:39
Speaker 8: Right.
1:55:39
Speaker 3: And then here here's the kicker. This report, Brian came
1:55:43
Speaker 3: out in May of twenty twenty five. The electronic visit
1:55:49
Speaker 3: verification was made mandatory in July of twenty twenty five.
1:55:54
Speaker 3: But here's here's the kicker nobody's talking about. They actually
1:55:57
Speaker 3: then made the default for the GPS tracker on the
1:56:01
Speaker 3: EVV off and that's and so you go, Okay, you
1:56:05
Speaker 3: required EVV, but you made it toothless by putting the
1:56:10
Speaker 3: GPS requirement it's off.
1:56:13
Speaker 1: Unbelievable and processing payments without the EVEV information, which is
1:56:19
Speaker 1: a necessary component to get a payment.
1:56:23
Speaker 3: It should be I'm looking at it right here. It
1:56:25
Speaker 3: should be a violation of Section one two zero zero
1:56:28
Speaker 3: six A of the twenty first Century Cures Act of
1:56:31
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. It's a federal violation, Brian. Yes, huh so yes,
1:56:38
Speaker 3: Now to your point, Now, Mike de Wine comes out
1:56:42
Speaker 3: and says, oh, no, no, no, we've been looking into this.
1:56:46
Speaker 3: We've been doing our job. We have oversight, we have EVV.
1:56:51
Speaker 3: That's a great story, but you've had EVV. You didn't
1:56:55
Speaker 3: make it mandatory until twenty twenty five, and then when
1:56:57
Speaker 3: you made it mandatory, you made it almost possible by
1:57:01
Speaker 3: putting the default for GPS it's off. So he's now
1:57:04
Speaker 3: trying to take a victory lap like he has these
1:57:07
Speaker 3: systems and processes in place that would have prevented fraud.
1:57:11
Speaker 3: And it is exact people are seeing it, Brian, as
1:57:14
Speaker 3: exactly what it is. It's a Mike to Wine cover
1:57:16
Speaker 3: your ass operation.
1:57:18
Speaker 8: It is.
1:57:18
Speaker 1: And on that point, we're going to bring back Jack
1:57:20
Speaker 1: wins Or talk a little bit more about this. But
1:57:21
Speaker 1: also Ohio's ed Choice program, something I thoroughly embraced the
1:57:25
Speaker 1: concept of education choice a bi partisan thing. So the
1:57:28
Speaker 1: talk station Hey forty two fifty five KRCID talks Totation
1:57:32
Speaker 1: the Ohio Press Network dot com where you find Jack
1:57:34
Speaker 1: wins Or recommending. Bookmark on the page and check out
1:57:36
Speaker 1: what he's reporting on and re reporting throughout the week.
1:57:39
Speaker 1: Jack Winsor, Uh, I guess my wife had an interesting question.
1:57:42
Speaker 1: Since none of us in our family and a way
1:57:44
Speaker 1: like Amy acton and prefer v big Ramaswamy, she put
1:57:47
Speaker 1: it out, she's the head of the Ohio Department of Health.
1:57:49
Speaker 1: Does she have any responsibility for medicaid oversight? We have
1:57:52
Speaker 1: one more talking point to go after Amy acting on Jack.
1:57:56
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question, and I don't know that
1:58:00
Speaker 3: he would, although I'm certain she would have sat in
1:58:02
Speaker 3: those cabinet meetings with the director of Medicaid, by the way,
1:58:06
Speaker 3: who has since resigned since Mike de Villa's investigation began.
1:58:11
Speaker 3: You know, when you look at public health, right, she
1:58:13
Speaker 3: should be at least included in that conversation or would
1:58:16
Speaker 3: have been back in you know circa twenty twenty, twenty
1:58:19
Speaker 3: twenty one.
1:58:19
Speaker 1: That would be Amy lockdown acting. Yeah, go ahead, Let
1:58:22
Speaker 1: me put that in there real quick. Well, one of
1:58:23
Speaker 1: the interesting things is, and you know, red flags all
1:58:25
Speaker 1: over the place, so we don't have the electronic verification
1:58:27
Speaker 1: for reasons absolutely unknown. And who pulled the plug on
1:58:30
Speaker 1: that when it was a federal law that that was required.
1:58:33
Speaker 1: But moving on Keith Faber last I guess it was
1:58:37
Speaker 1: May of last year. He pointed out that Franklin County, Columbus,
1:58:42
Speaker 1: is home to about thirty percent of the state's registered
1:58:45
Speaker 1: in home care businesses and that's where this fraud came from.
1:58:49
Speaker 1: The county alone gets thirty eight percent of the state's
1:58:52
Speaker 1: public dollars that have spent on home health healthcare, and
1:58:54
Speaker 1: forty one percent of those dollars is spent in a
1:58:57
Speaker 1: four mile radius. Nothing to see here, Jack, Is this
1:59:01
Speaker 1: something nefarious? And I know Governor Wine has been accused
1:59:03
Speaker 1: of being a little too fast and loose with the
1:59:05
Speaker 1: Somali community, and we do have the second largest Somali
1:59:07
Speaker 1: community in the United States here in the state of Ohio,
1:59:10
Speaker 1: and I know he has relationships with him. And no,
1:59:12
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas is not being racist. I'm talking about people
1:59:15
Speaker 1: who commit fraud. A subset of the broader Somali communities.
1:59:19
Speaker 1: If you're a fraud star, I don't care where you
1:59:21
Speaker 1: came from. I want you prosecuted. Is there some connection
1:59:24
Speaker 1: here between Governor de Wine and this I don't want
1:59:27
Speaker 1: to call it cover up for fear of, you know,
1:59:29
Speaker 1: maybe overstating it, but it sure sounds like it.
1:59:31
Speaker 3: Jack Well, he certainly has a soft spot for both
1:59:34
Speaker 3: Haitians and Somali's. And that's not being racist, that's calling
1:59:37
Speaker 3: a spade of spade fast number one and number two.
1:59:41
Speaker 3: I just generally tend to believe that Mike Dwine trusts
1:59:44
Speaker 3: the bureaucrats and does not look at their reports, does
1:59:48
Speaker 3: not listen to them the way that he ought to
1:59:49
Speaker 3: on behalf of Ohio taxpayers. But you bring up a
1:59:52
Speaker 3: really interesting point, and I want to go back really
1:59:54
Speaker 3: quickly and point out how big this issue is. Brian.
1:59:57
Speaker 3: The Daily Wire report showed that Ohio blew through a
2:00:01
Speaker 3: billion dollars in twenty twenty four a loan in these
2:00:04
Speaker 3: so called home health care services, mostly homemaking stuff, chores, companionships,
2:00:09
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. So what you just hit though,
2:00:11
Speaker 3: is really important, and it's imperative because I believe it
2:00:14
Speaker 3: was there. Part two on May fifth, inside Ohio's home
2:00:17
Speaker 3: health empire seven buildings, two hundred and eighty eight Medicaid companies,
2:00:22
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty million dollars. So Luke Rosiac takes
2:00:26
Speaker 3: you inside mostly empty buildings in Columbus that house two
2:00:30
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty eight of these Medicaid home health outfits.
2:00:33
Speaker 3: They've built taxpayers over two hundred and fifty million dollars
2:00:37
Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen, even though there are only a few
2:00:40
Speaker 3: thousand actual elderly Medicaid folks in that area who would
2:00:44
Speaker 3: need this stuff. And so what Luke saw empty hallways, sorry,
2:00:49
Speaker 3: were closed signs on the door, stray cats in the
2:00:52
Speaker 3: parking lot right the whole nine yards. But here's the deal.
2:00:56
Speaker 3: The checks just kept coming. And Brian, this isn't healthcare.
2:01:01
Speaker 3: It's a welfare empire built on our dime. And that's
2:01:05
Speaker 3: exactly what Rosiac's report, in my opinion, really paints a
2:01:09
Speaker 3: picture of without question.
2:01:11
Speaker 1: I mean, there is no there is no way around
2:01:13
Speaker 1: that conclusion. One more with Jack Winsor and this thing
2:01:18
Speaker 1: has legs. We're gonna talking about this a lot of
2:01:19
Speaker 1: the fifty five Carsite Morning Show because it's not going away.
2:01:22
Speaker 1: Ohio ed Choice program huge fan. Am I anything involving
2:01:26
Speaker 1: education choice to get us away from the nefarious reality
2:01:28
Speaker 1: that are the teachers Union in doctor Nation camps is
2:01:31
Speaker 1: what your public schools are more with Jack Don't go
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Speaker 1: appropriately time bumper music. Brian Thomas here with Jack wins
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Speaker 1: are from the Ohio Pressnetwork dot com right there on
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Speaker 1: the front page. I was pleased to see the article
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Speaker 1: you reposted by Esther Wickham from the Center Square. The
2:01:53
Speaker 1: critics question unions after one billion in political spending. Kind
2:01:57
Speaker 1: of a funny opening statement. I think it was tongue
2:01:59
Speaker 1: in cheek. Education experts are questioning whether the union's heavy
2:02:03
Speaker 1: political spending has produced any meaningful improvement in student outcomes. Yeah, right,
2:02:08
Speaker 1: like that's what it is supposed to be. Congressman David
2:02:10
Speaker 1: Taylor was on earlier. He said, you know, they fight
2:02:12
Speaker 1: like for example, and I've been singing praises for the
2:02:15
Speaker 1: Cincinni Classical Academy because I got the toury yesterday. Yes,
2:02:18
Speaker 1: the Union stood in the way at every turn for them,
2:02:22
Speaker 1: even trying to acquire a building and he said, well,
2:02:24
Speaker 1: that's because they want every child to be in the
2:02:27
Speaker 1: indoctrination camp that are the union run schools. That's the
2:02:31
Speaker 1: nefarious reality behind you. That don't even of itself should
2:02:33
Speaker 1: be a red flag to any parent out there. There
2:02:35
Speaker 1: are better options if you get the option, and of course,
2:02:38
Speaker 1: the one party that standing in the way of school
2:02:40
Speaker 1: choice the Democrats.
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Speaker 3: That's right, well, and it shouldn't surprise us, right, Brian,
2:02:48
Speaker 3: because when you look at this report from the Center Square,
2:02:51
Speaker 3: you see that since twenty fifteen, two of the largest
2:02:55
Speaker 3: teacher unions in America, the National Education Association and the
2:02:58
Speaker 3: American Federation of Teachers, have blown through more than one
2:03:02
Speaker 3: billion dollars on politics.
2:03:04
Speaker 1: One thousand million.
2:03:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That's a lot of money where I'm from,
2:03:10
Speaker 3: me too. And here's the deal. Though, they looked at
2:03:14
Speaker 3: California because California is the largest teacher union in the country,
2:03:18
Speaker 3: the California Teachers Association. So they looked there and said,
2:03:21
Speaker 3: all right, all this money went to these political programs.
2:03:25
Speaker 3: So what you would think, Brian, is that teachers would
2:03:29
Speaker 3: have better contracts, they'd have better benefits, they'd be better
2:03:32
Speaker 3: equipped to produce the outcomes that we require with our kids. Well,
2:03:36
Speaker 3: when they looked in California, they saw two things. The
2:03:40
Speaker 3: literacy level actually went down two points over the course
2:03:45
Speaker 3: of twenty fifteen to twenty twenty six, while a billion
2:03:47
Speaker 3: dollars was spent, and math literacy stayed the same. So
2:03:51
Speaker 3: we're not seeing any increase in the outputs of our kids. Now,
2:03:55
Speaker 3: the interesting point that you also brought up we have
2:03:58
Speaker 3: to look at in context to all of this is
2:04:00
Speaker 3: the fact that in Ohio we do have an ED
2:04:02
Speaker 3: Choice scholarship program, and there are three hundred Ohio schools
2:04:07
Speaker 3: right now filing a lawsuit trying to stop ED choice expansion.
2:04:11
Speaker 3: So they're using our tax dollars to contest the ED
2:04:15
Speaker 3: choice program. And the idea that they the mantra they
2:04:19
Speaker 3: keep using is well, it's public money, so it should
2:04:22
Speaker 3: be used for public schools. And Brian, the Supreme Court disagrees.
2:04:27
Speaker 3: Logic disagrees because the purpose of education is for the kid.
2:04:33
Speaker 3: It's not for the teacher, it's not for the school building,
2:04:36
Speaker 3: it's not for the teacher union. Public money, which by
2:04:39
Speaker 3: the way, is private money to begin with before it
2:04:41
Speaker 3: goes into the public poto, public money should follow the
2:04:45
Speaker 3: kids and guess who's in charge of the kids. Supreme
2:04:47
Speaker 3: Court has already talked about parents are responsible for the
2:04:51
Speaker 3: upbringing and education of their kids, primarily, so ed Choice says, Yep,
2:04:55
Speaker 3: we take public dollars and we use them for the
2:04:57
Speaker 3: public good of educating kids, which is exactly why the
2:05:00
Speaker 3: money should follow the kid and not the building.
2:05:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you end up with the school, since
2:05:04
Speaker 1: a classical academy, they teach logic and reason and critical thinking,
2:05:07
Speaker 1: which means children are taught to maybe question the political
2:05:12
Speaker 1: ideology of the teachers in the room. I used to
2:05:15
Speaker 1: do that, you know. I remember her. I remember this
2:05:18
Speaker 1: as it was a social studies what are they called it,
2:05:19
Speaker 1: back when I was in high school, and she was
2:05:21
Speaker 1: a big left winger and she loved JFK. I mean,
2:05:23
Speaker 1: she had this just absolute heart throb thing going and
2:05:26
Speaker 1: all we heard about was Democrat this and Democrat that.
2:05:29
Speaker 1: It was so obvious, but I mean I was aware
2:05:32
Speaker 1: of it. I was politically active as a young person,
2:05:34
Speaker 1: but I had critical thinking skills. They're not teaching children
2:05:37
Speaker 1: critical thinking. They sit them in the classroom and they
2:05:40
Speaker 1: tell them what is what, and no one is there
2:05:42
Speaker 1: to question it.
2:05:44
Speaker 3: No, not only do they tell them what is what,
2:05:46
Speaker 3: they teach them revisionist history, They sprinkle equity into mathematics,
2:05:52
Speaker 3: and they put posters on the hallway walls that tell
2:05:56
Speaker 3: kids they should go protest ice, yes and borders. I mean,
2:06:01
Speaker 3: we have really turned a corner into schools being centers
2:06:05
Speaker 3: for activism instead of teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic.
2:06:08
Speaker 1: Have we turned a corner with America's awareness of that
2:06:11
Speaker 1: reality so much so that more and more people are
2:06:13
Speaker 1: going to pull the plug on their children in public schools.
2:06:16
Speaker 3: Jack windsor well, Brian As, you do what you do,
2:06:19
Speaker 3: and I do what I do, and other people like
2:06:20
Speaker 3: the Daily Wire do what they do. I think so.
2:06:23
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is, you know this, the mainstream
2:06:26
Speaker 3: media is a lame They don't ever go off narrative,
2:06:29
Speaker 3: and so it's going to be more about getting people
2:06:32
Speaker 3: cut cut from the core of mainstream propaganda.