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Called to More: Walking in Purpose with a Christian Life Coach-with Taylor Morrison · Deep Dive into Joy

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This is deep dive into joy and I'm your host
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Gina Rickner. Hey joy listeners, it's your host
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Gina Rickner. Welcome back to deep dive into
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joy. The podcast where we talk about our own
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personal testimonies, how God shows up for us
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in our everyday lives, health and wellness and
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journeying through the Bible. I'm so glad to
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have you guys with us today. So on this episode
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of deep dive into joy, I am sitting down with
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Taylor Morrison. So Taylor is a certified Christian
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life coach. She has worked in behavioral health
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field with social work, administrative roles,
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and doing therapy work with ages ranging from
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children to older adults. Taylor recently started
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her own Christian life coaching business and
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seeks to support those in ministry and ministry
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let's all welcome Taylor Morrison to today's
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podcast. Hi, Taylor. Thank you so much for being
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on with me today. I just want to thank you. It's
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your birthday. Happy birthday. Thank you. And
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I'm so glad that you're here with us. I like
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to ask every guest before we start, what is your
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favorite drink? My favorite drink currently is
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the Cajun loaded teas and I have one with me
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today. Never heard of it. they're delicious.
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Cajun loaded. Yes. Where do you get that? So
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I order them from, they're actually a place out
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of Louisiana that you can order online and you
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can make them at home. Is it spicy? No, not at
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all. Okay, that's interesting. I've never heard
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of that. Especially coming from Louisiana. Okay,
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so I know Taylor has quite the testimony to share
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with us and I'm looking forward to hearing it.
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Taylor, just after you're done with your testimony,
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I want to walk into your business and learning
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all the things about that. So you pretty much
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have the floor. Just tell me when you're done
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and we'll move into the questions. OK, sounds
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good. So I guess I'll start. When I was about
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nine years old, I asked the Lord into my heart.
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My mom always says, oh, my goodness, you always
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asked. these like existential questions when
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you were a young kid. And I'd always go, my dad's
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name is Rick. She'd always go, Rick, come in
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here and kind of have him help answer the questions
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and talk with me. But I wanted to ask the Lord
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into my heart when I was about nine. And I have
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always felt close to the Lord. So when I did
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that, she said, OK, Rick, come in here and talk
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to her about this. Take care of this. So I remember
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him coming in my room and praying with me. And
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I asked Jesus into my heart. And I've always
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asked those hard life questions about God. And
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as a pastor's daughter, life's been kind of tough
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and frustrating. So has he always been a pastor
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your whole life? Yeah, since I was about 18 months
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old, he started into the ministry. Yeah. But
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there have been also many joys with being in
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a ministry family. I'm so proud of both of my
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parents. They've helped me become close with
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the Lord Throughout the entirety of my life and
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have taught me what it's like to carry the love
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of Christ and to share it with other people And
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to help them know him too, and my brothers helped
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me too He showed me to stop and pay attention
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to the world around me I remember one story when
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I was a little kid. He he would always pick up
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like mowing jobs um so he'd mow the churches
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um and mow our house um while my dad was busy
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doing like his pastoral duties and he'd pick
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up just other odd jobs in the neighborhood mowing
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grass and i just remember like teenage boys don't
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want to hang out with their little sisters but
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i always felt like I was hanging out with them
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when I was the same the other way around because
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my daughter and son six years apart and they
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don't want to hang out with each other so yeah
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it must just be a thing yeah um I felt like I
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was hanging out with them if I would go there
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was a basketball court behind the church and
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I'd sit there and watch him mow and I felt like
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I was hanging out with them like somehow I was
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just with them so in his presence yeah so I remember
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this one time he was mowing and the sun rays
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were shining like downward beams in the sky through
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the clouds and it was like really close to sunset
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and he shut the mower off and he came over I
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don't even know if he'd remember this if he's
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listening but um he said look Tay that's God
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shining down through the clouds I love that I
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always think of that too yeah when I see this
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so now every time I see that I think that like
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when I'm driving or you know and it just makes
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me think of my brother and makes me think of
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him saying that when I was little precious memory
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And then I've also always kind of gravitated
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to people that like society would kind of cast
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aside or those that feel left out. So I feel
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that's one of my God -given gifts is to uplift
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and encourage others. And I've learned that's
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the gift of exhortation. So it's kind of like
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a sixth sense, I guess. Do you think that was
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instilled in you in some way too growing up as
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a pastor's daughter or you just feel like it?
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as a gift. I don't know because I've always kind
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of been awkward up until I was like almost ready
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to graduate high school. I've been really awkward
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and like afraid of people. I don't know if that
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came from having to be around so many people
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all the time but so I don't think that I I don't
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know. I just wasn't sure if it was something
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like your parents are like hey make sure you
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I mean, they always did do that. There would
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be kids in the neighborhood, and they'd say,
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why don't you just play with them? Why don't
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you make them feel welcome? Or they'd take neighborhood
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kids into our home, both that my brother knew,
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or kids from the church, or just kids from down
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the street that saw me outside and wanted to
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play. They'd say, just play with them. Play with
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them. Make them feel welcome. Invite them to
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church. So maybe that is where it came from.
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I never really thought of that. That's a good
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question. But I just remember on the playground
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when I was in elementary school even, I'd wander
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around looking for the kids that were alone or
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like sad or like left out and I'd kind of like
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gather them in a group and just kind of like
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form my own little little group of friends like
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even people I didn't even know I'd say hey you
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want to hang out with us you want to do this
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and like I don't know I just I just love to do
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that. Instead of me going and doing something
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I wanted, I'd gather up the ones that were kind
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of cast to the side and bring them together and
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play with them. I love that. I know when we moved
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around to different places, that was tough. That's
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really hard when you're established somewhere
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and then the conference of the church is like,
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okay, we're moving your family. It's hard. I
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know that... there's reasons for it but it's
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still difficult. I remember probably the hardest
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move was when I got a little bit older. I was
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going into my seventh grade year of school so
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that was like junior high and I didn't know any
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of the people at Kerwinsville so we moved there
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and I knew virtually no one so that was tough.
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My life changed a lot when we moved there. I
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kind of felt bullied and not welcome. I think
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just because young kids have a tendency to do
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that, just kind of not be welcoming of new things
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or new people. I see it as they grew up with
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all of the other classmates that they knew, or
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virtually most of them. and then here comes me
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and nobody knows me and they're like oh who's
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this who's this newbie yeah i feel very isolated
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because i move different schools a lot yeah yeah
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it's hard um and i um because i felt like that
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i remember sitting and thinking you know i all
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my life have like gathered people up and encouraged
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them and talked with them um Like the ones that
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are cast to the side and lonely and now I'm lonely
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and downtrodden and There's no one to pick me
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up like that like someone my own age and I kind
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of turned into this like angry person and fell
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away from God for a while for a period of time
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As I grew older I had this misconception that
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loving others meant to be okay with everything
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they did and sometimes joining in and I became
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a bully because I was bullied. That's not an
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excuse, but you know, I was figuring out life
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and not going about things the right way, kind
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of trial and error. And I apologize to anybody
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that I've ever hurt and I'm not at all that person
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I once was. That's what Jesus can do for you.
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He can completely change your life around. And
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I turned to the world for happiness, which only
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left me empty. I just felt like an empty shell.
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because it wasn't God, we're made to love him,
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we're made to worship him, and you know he wants
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us to be close to him and when we're not we don't
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display those fruits and we're the complete opposite
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because we're living in the world. But I was
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definitely living in the world and of it instead
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of in the world and not of it at that time in
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my life and I wanted so badly to fit in because
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I didn't want to feel left out and I wanted somebody
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to kind of treat me like I treat others or how
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I perceive that I treat others when they feel
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left out and wanting to fit in is very unlike
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me and I became selfish and cold in doing that.
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I made poor choices and what was mean to other
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people including my family and I think about
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that like I'm still guilty about that. I'm like
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they did not deserve that. I think we all are.
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And then you have the girl hormones at that age,
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so it doesn't help. Oh, yeah. No, that doesn't
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at all. And my parents are probably, if they're
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listening, they'll giggle about that. They always
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say, you were not pleasant when you were a teenager.
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But they loved us anyway. Yes, they did. And
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I'm glad for that. They're my best friends now,
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and my brother, too. I didn't have a solid relationship
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with Jesus at that time. And I had been hurt
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by church people. I had used them as an excuse
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to be angry with God and thought of them as an
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accurate representation of God, and that is not
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at all true. And I know so many people that have
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talked to me about that, and I always just hound
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that. I'm like, no, people will let you down,
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but God does not. And how they are is not an
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accurate representation of him at all. Yeah,
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I think there's a lot of church hurt and people
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don't know how to navigate that. Absolutely.
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And I'm sure many listening have had that experience
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with religious people claiming to represent Christ
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But they go about it the wrong way and in turn
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turn people away from him And that's not what
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we're supposed to do Nothing the world could
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give me though made me feel fulfilled I would
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spend time with people who would blaspheme and
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curse God and in my soul I felt unequally yoked
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and thought to myself just eventually, wow I'm
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among godless people living a godless life and
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this is not okay. It reminds me of how we're
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told that God will, like even when we're living
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in sin, God gives you that like split decision
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to choose a different path and that was that
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path. That was him speaking to me like saying,
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hey this isn't this isn't who I want you to be.
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And now looking back I see that. And I thought
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loving people meant agreeing with and condoning
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everything they choose to say and do, and I had
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no idea about loving correction. So now that
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I'm older and wiser and closer with God, I understand
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the loving correction. Not to argue with other
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people and belittle them, but loving correction
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is necessary to uplift each other in Christ.
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So, I was going through this weird period of
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time in my life, and then I met a boy who is
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now my husband, and neither of us had a relationship
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with Christ. We did prior to meeting, but years
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before that, but we were both in this weird funk
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where we kind of fell away from God. Which is
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very common for a lot of people. But the roots
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were there. We both came from Christian families
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and because the roots were deep in the soil,
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we both grew closer with Christ together. He
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came to church with my family and I. When my
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dad, he kind of stepped out of the ministry when
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my grandparents got sick for a period of time.
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We were going to different churches trying to
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find a church family during that period of time.
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Ben would come with us to church and we studied
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the Bible together like when we would hang out
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and we prayed together. Eventually we both had
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a similar situation too where we rededicated
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our lives to Christ. Neither of us had told one
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another but within a week of this happening to
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us both each of us had woke up in the night and
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cried out to God to save us with repentant hearts
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and sometime later we had a discussion about
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each of our separate events. this and we were
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in awe of how God works because we had no idea
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and then when we talked to each other it was
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like oh my gosh, me too! And it was just kind
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of crazy and I was like is this is this for real
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like that's that's crazy timing that's that's
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insane. It's amazing and that's God pursuing
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you and I love the just like the rooted part
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of it because God tells us like we're supposed
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to train our children up in the way that they
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should go. And I was kind of the same way. I
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was wasn't brought up in the church until I was
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I think maybe eight, nine. I don't know somewhere
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around there. And yes, I think we all fall away
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at some point. I think that's just the world
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that pulls you away. And it is right, because
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I think that he does pursue those people that
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have their roots and he's going to He never left
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us like he was always there. We left him and
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Yeah, I just I love that rooted part. Yeah, and
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I thought about the same Bible verse. That's
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one of my favorites Yeah, because it's so true
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and I've seen that in my life It's part of my
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testimony. So I just I love that verse and I
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Know that we've just been the we haven't been
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the same ever since that happened to both of
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us and when we talked about it we're like oh
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my goodness it just blew our minds that that
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happened in a similar way to both of us and a
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lot of people think you have to be saved during
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an altar call but in but Christ is not limited
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to a building or service like the thief on the
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cross he'll reach down and meet you where you're
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at and you just have to come to him and repent
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of your sins and believe and confess that Jesus
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is Lord and he died for our sins and your life
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will be changed forever. And that's it. People
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don't realize that. It's a heart posture thing.
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It's one thing to say those things and partially
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believe them, but actually feeling that in your
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soul and truly wanting that is a different story.
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That's where it's at. Yeah. And a lot of people
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are like... you're not the same anymore yeah
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yeah I'm not supposed to be the same we are supposed
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to grow and change with every season of life
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yeah and it offends people too they're like oh
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yeah oh you think you're a holy ruler now and
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I'm like no I'm just over here loving Jesus yeah
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and it makes me think of another verse I can't
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think of where it's at but Kind of along the
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lines where he says I'm going to separate like
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you you may be separated from your family like
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those that don't understand you're gonna be separated
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from them and Just as what it is and it's actually
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a compliment. It's not yeah, it's not Like in
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worldly Standards and like a worldly viewpoint.
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I think people would say oh my gosh, that's terrible
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Well, you should just comply you should just
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appease other people so that you you know So
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that they like you or get along with you and
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it's like well we're not god doesn't tell us
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to do that though um he tells us to be set apart
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like you said yeah and then it's like my just
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getting on like i don't want to go down this
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rabbit hole but like curses being over your family
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and um you know i decided that it was going to
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end with me you know alcoholism drug addiction
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um all just sorts of things that run in my family.
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Pregnancy at a young age, like I'm just, no.
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I'm like, it's gonna end with me and I'm breaking
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this over my children. So I think that's very
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important too. Yes, it very much is. The world
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kind of tells us that disagreeing is hatred,
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but Jesus tells us correction is love. And that,
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I heard that in a podcast one day and that spoke
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volumes to me. I was like, oh my goodness, yes.
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Like if you disagree with someone they just come
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at you they attack you or even if you have the
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light of Christ And you walk in a room full of
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people that may not It's you can you can tell
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it's just evident people just kind of scoff at
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you or Like they can just see the fruits in you
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and it bothers them. Mm -hmm. And I don't mean
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like Correcting others by provoking them to anger
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or fighting or arguing to get your point across
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We're not supposed to do that. But if we condone
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people's acts and words that are against Christ
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-like characteristics We are confirming them
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to the pits of hell. Mm -hmm So we should love
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people in Christ so they want to get to heaven
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instead And not even God forces us to love them.
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Like that's why we have free will So I think
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it's so important with the loving correction
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That's the whole point. I think God includes
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the loving part with that phrase. Yeah Because
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if we're just standing there pointing our finger
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and hollering at people telling them what to
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do like they're not gonna Receive that well,
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you know and don't do the correction and a text
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message either Because you never know the tone.
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Yes, and it just gets lost in conversation. It
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sure does. Yes We should do good things for others
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and be true examples of Christ and make people
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wonder what's so different about us. I've had
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so many people thank me and give me accolades
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for doing good for others and it's not me to
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be thanked, it's for the glory of God. We're
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supposed to thank him when we're blessed or when
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you see someone else blessing other people. Something
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my parents taught me from a young age was to
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do good for others in secret and not to tell
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others about it. Like do not let your one hand
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know what the other's doing. That's a heart posture
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thing and What is the purpose behind why you
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are doing good for others? That's God Putting
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that desire in our hearts to do that good. It's
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it's a byproduct of our faith and our love for
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him He has your soul and he died for you. So
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go live for him. That's what I always tell people
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that I talk with The Bible tells us in James
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2 14 through 26, I'm gonna read some scripture.
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Is that okay? Yeah, okay So faith without works
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is dead. What does it profit, my brethren, if
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someone says he has faith but does not have works?
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Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is
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naked and destitute of daily food and one of
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you says to them, depart in peace, be warm and
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filled, but you do not give them the things which
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are needed for the body, what does it profit?
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Thus also, faith by itself, if it does not have
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works, is dead. But someone will say, you have
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faith and I have works. show me your faith without
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your works and I will show you my faith by my
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works you believe that there is one God you do
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well even the demons believe and tremble but
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do you want to know oh foolish man that faith
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without works is dead was not Abraham our father
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justified by works when he offered Isaac his
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son on the altar do you see that faith was working
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together with his works and by works faith was
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made perfect the scripture was fulfilled which
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says Abraham believed God and it was accounted
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to him for righteousness and he was called the
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friend of God. You see then that a man is justified
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by works and not by faith only. Likewise was
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not Rahab the harlot also justified by works
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when she received the messengers and sent them
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out another way. For as the body without the
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spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead
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also. And then Ephesians 2 verses eight and nine
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For it is by grace you have been saved through
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faith and this is not from yourselves It is the
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gift of God not by works so that no one can boast
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Since being saved my heart has new affections
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and by this I mean that as a byproduct of my
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faith and heart for Jesus I want to be more like
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him and Let me just kind of clarify this by saying
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God's working on me, but he's also working through
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me Those are lyrics to one of my favorite um
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christian rap songs people laugh when i say i
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love christian rap they're like you you like
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that song um but that's so true um i'm not perfect
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i'll have fallen short of the glory of god however
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i want to be like christ i want to deny my flesh
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pick up my cross and follow him daily i want
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to be a representation of him no matter where
25:11
i'm at or who i'm around am i perfect at all
25:14
absolutely not But I want to live my life like
25:17
Jesus lived his I want to help others not to
25:20
earn badges as if our Christian walk is a merit
25:23
system because it's not But because the Holy
25:25
Spirit now lives in me We want to do good for
25:28
others because of the wonderful things Christ
25:30
has done for us not for recognition or selfish
25:33
gain or anything like that or to keep track of
25:37
Like keep a tally of what we've done That's not
25:41
a good heart posture. That's not what we're here
25:43
for but because doing good things for others
25:46
is a byproduct of our salvation and faith. Salvation
25:49
is not earned, but it's a free gift. God gives
25:53
us free will, and like with any gift, we have
25:56
to extend our arms to receive it and accept it
25:58
into our lives. We can't let our free gift just
26:01
set on our doorstep without opening the door
26:02
and picking it up and cherishing it. We wouldn't
26:05
let our Amazon package just sit there when we
26:07
get the notification, hey, your package is delivered.
26:11
It feels like Christmas when we get a notification
26:15
that, you know, we have a package waiting to
26:17
be open. So why don't we feel like that about
26:19
Jesus and what he has to offer? Jesus knocks
26:23
at the door of our hearts, so let him in. In
26:26
the famous painting of Jesus knocking on the
26:28
door, there's no handle for him to open it from
26:30
the outside. And that just kind of melts my heart
26:36
and makes me want to cry because that speaks
26:39
volumes. um but he will knock and he'll wait
26:43
patiently for us to let him in no matter how
26:45
long it takes and there's a lot of people that
26:47
think just getting saved and you're done it's
26:49
no you need to have a relationship with him yeah
26:51
that's one of the things that scares me the most
26:53
is you don't want to get up there and hear department
26:56
depart from me i never knew you absolutely that's
26:59
terrifying very scary to think about yeah um
27:02
and that's like the scripture i read earlier
27:04
the part that said even the demons believe But
27:08
when we open the door of our hearts to him, he'll
27:11
gladly enter. He's been waiting for the door
27:14
to open. Receive him today. I've been called
27:17
a Jesus freak, a Bible thumper, all the names,
27:20
a holy roller, like I said earlier, a religious
27:23
cult member. I would like to be called a holy
27:25
roller. I know, no. I don't take that to offense.
27:30
It is a compliment. A religious cult member,
27:35
that's been the funniest one. I'll cult them
27:38
because I go to church. Okay. A crazy Christian
27:43
because I take Jesus seriously. Excuse me. And
27:47
whatever else people have said, but those are
27:49
compliments, like I said, for taking my walk
27:52
with Jesus seriously. If you know me, you're
27:55
laughing about how untrue most of those labels
27:59
are. Those are pretty extreme labels. But the
28:03
Jesus Freak one, I think I'll wear that one.
28:05
on a bad genie day honestly um i think people
28:09
think too that whenever you accept god you can't
28:13
you can't have fun and live life anymore it's
28:15
like no you gotta let go of the religious side
28:19
and the and the laws and you know that jesus
28:23
came to break those things yeah yeah absolutely
28:25
um but being criticized for my faith and called
28:31
names and bullied and talked about has nothing
28:34
on how Jesus was treated when he was battered,
28:36
bruised, spit on, stabbed with a crown of thorns,
28:38
and then nails were driven into his hands and
28:40
feet for you and for me. And I have to remind
28:43
myself of that often. Sometimes you do feel discouraged
28:49
and disappointed, you know, because people can
28:52
be cruel and unkind. It's like, well, I didn't
28:55
do anything to you. Why would you say those things
28:57
about me? But you have to remember what Jesus
29:00
went through. He didn't have any shortage of
29:04
that and he he received the most brutal of That
29:10
and you gotta remember hurt people hurt people.
29:12
Yep. I always say that. Yep That's absolutely
29:15
true Well, just like earlier in my testimony
29:19
when I said I became a bully because I was bullied
29:22
and that happened so often to people and Speaking
29:28
of church hurt religious trauma People people
29:33
act accordingly when they've been treated poorly
29:36
they kind of Do the same thing to other people?
29:39
Yeah and Becoming a Christian you literally sign
29:45
up for the mockery By accepting Christ He was
29:51
mistreated too. So why would we be treated any
29:53
different than he was? Although he endured the
29:55
worst of the worst Now I choose to live my life
29:59
to show others who Jesus truly is. So I encourage
30:03
your listeners to speak up for your faith, speak
30:05
up for the truth, be the light, but be the salt
30:07
too. A city on a hilltop cannot be hidden. Also
30:12
with the salt part, salt was and is used as a
30:14
preservative and is used to add flavor. So that
30:18
makes me think in our Christian walk how we should
30:21
go against the grain of common misconceptions,
30:24
challenge ungodly speech, and actions with love
30:28
in our heart and let God use you to teach others
30:31
a better way. Shine the light of Jesus unapologetically.
30:36
I love that. Taylor, thank you so much for sharing
30:39
your testimony with us. And I just love hearing
30:41
everyone's journey. Like it's a blessing to me
30:43
to get to sit here and walk, listen to everyone.
30:47
And I do want to give you a chance to go over
30:52
your new business. So If you just want to share
30:57
with my audience, because you're very new, so
31:01
I want to get that out there. I think it's an
31:04
amazing tool for Christians to be able to get
31:09
counseling and have that help. I just think that's
31:12
amazing calling. So if you can just kind of explain
31:15
the business, like how it works, where you're
31:19
located, which I'll list out in the show notes,
31:21
but I still want you to mention it. Just kind
31:23
of like all the things that you're doing for
31:25
that. So I worked in the helping field since
31:29
graduating college for the past six and a half
31:31
years. Social services, case management. I did
31:37
bachelor's level therapy. It's been a challenge
31:40
in itself to work in the helping field because
31:43
it seems there's a lot of people in it for the
31:44
wrong reasons and their heart posture about helping
31:48
others isn't in the right place, I feel. It makes
31:53
it difficult to work with others with that mindset.
31:56
especially those in the field who don't respect
31:58
or understand Christianity. So where I'm coming
32:01
from and trying to share love with clients and,
32:04
you know, not that I ever pushed my religion
32:08
on. So do you even know you're a Christian counselor?
32:13
Do you get people that aren't Christian or just
32:15
don't even go to church? I do. Yes. Okay, that's
32:18
awesome. I love that. Okay. And I started Actually
32:23
writing a book months ago about the unique struggles
32:26
of like ministry families and different examples
32:28
of spiritual warfare I've experienced in secular
32:31
jobs To hopefully help. I love that. Yeah, I'm
32:36
excited. That's exciting You did not tell me
32:39
that But fast forward to a few months ago kind
32:44
of where the Christian life coaching started
32:45
out So it's a little different from counseling
32:48
because I don't diagnose I don't treat coaching
32:51
is more goals -driven where you help clients
32:55
set goals through a Christian perspective and
33:00
help them move forward through that walking with
33:04
them hand -in -hand with Christ. Okay. So a few
33:08
months ago when God laid it on my heart to apply
33:11
for a scholarship for the Christian life coaching
33:13
program through Light University that's where
33:17
I'm credentialed through. I began the courses
33:19
and I was feeling this spiritual warfare at work
33:21
at my full -time job and was searching for purpose
33:25
elsewhere. Originally I wanted to just maybe
33:29
do the life coaching to bring more purpose to
33:31
my life and make me feel more centered in Christ
33:34
and so I could help people specifically through
33:38
Christ because I couldn't really do that at my
33:41
secular workplace. I didn't really have a plan
33:45
and I figured I'd give coaching a go and see
33:49
where God takes me with it because he laid it
33:50
on my heart for a reason so I was trying to be
33:53
obedient I had a particularly bad week one week
33:57
and was feeling this lack of drive in my work
34:00
due to everything going on lots of drama and
34:04
Just lots of things going on. I had been searching
34:07
elsewhere for employment for months at that point,
34:10
too I was just very unhappy I was really wanting
34:14
a Christian company to work for, and I was really
34:19
searching hard for that. I had a job interview
34:22
with a Christian prison ministry. Which is a
34:24
shame that we have to search hard to find. It
34:27
is, it is. There's not many options for Christian
34:30
companies to work for, I feel like in our area.
34:34
but I did have a job interview with a Christian
34:36
prison ministry and I was really excited about
34:40
it and I was praying about it there was just
34:42
something about that job that kind of held me
34:49
back from jumping forward and there was this
34:52
interview process you had to go through like
34:55
I think it was three interviews so I made it
34:59
to the final interview and thought Something
35:02
isn't right after praying. I was like, I don't
35:05
I don't think this is what's meant for me And
35:09
like I love working with Those that have been
35:13
in prisons when we do our homeless mission we
35:17
work with a lot of people that have been in incarcerated
35:19
and Are currently, you know in trouble with the
35:23
law? but I have a heart for those individuals
35:30
and homeless individuals in general, but So with
35:33
the prison ministry, I was like, oh my goodness
35:35
This is this is perfect like we need more people
35:38
that can help them reenter into society without
35:41
setting them up for failure Yes, please. Yes.
35:44
Yes, and I it's crazy. I mean, that's why everyone
35:47
goes back. Absolutely There's no hope for them
35:50
or they end up homeless. Yes because they Just
35:54
don't have that support that they need when they
35:56
leave the jails and I was really excited about
36:00
it but just like I said something was holding
36:03
me back and I felt like God was telling me no
36:06
this isn't meant for you or at least this isn't
36:08
for you right now so I ended up after praying
36:13
about it and feeling God tugging me in a different
36:16
direction I ended up declining the final interview
36:19
and they were bummed out they emailed me and
36:22
they're like well we think that you're a really
36:23
good fit for this and I said I and I knew they'd
36:26
understand By me saying this, I said, I don't
36:28
feel like this is meant for me. And I couldn't
36:31
really explain why. But that kind of stopped
36:36
me in my tracks with that. And I was like, yeah,
36:39
this is a door closed. I need to communicate
36:42
that with them so I'm not stringing them along,
36:48
basically, giving them this false hope. That's
36:50
not right. So I remember I told them that. Always
36:59
had trouble getting ready for work to go to that
37:01
workplace And I felt that before in secular jobs
37:05
But I felt that God Stopped me in my tracks when
37:11
I was walking down our hallway as I was getting
37:14
ready to hug my husband. Goodbye And heading
37:17
out the door. I stopped in the middle of the
37:19
hallway and I I heard Go to the office today
37:25
and our office for that workplace was across
37:28
town. So I would have had to intentionally go
37:31
there to quit. And I was like, what? And I walked
37:37
a little closer to the front door where my husband
37:39
was standing and I stopped and I just kind of
37:41
stared at him. And he said, what? And I said,
37:43
I think I'm going to quit my job today. And he
37:46
goes, uh, and I said, I gotta go, I'll explain
37:52
later, and when I got to work I texted him and
37:54
he goes, well, it was surprising. His response
37:59
he said, something along the lines of, I don't
38:01
remember exactly, but something along the lines
38:04
of if God's telling you to do that and it brings
38:08
you peace, then that's what you should do. There
38:12
was this recurring theme of peace about it. My
38:15
parents kept telling me that too. They're like
38:17
it whatever brings you peace That's what you
38:20
need to do. And like he didn't know that so I'm
38:23
like, okay God's using people to tell me that
38:25
to focus on the peace part For one and praise
38:29
be to God that your husband was supportive for
38:31
you He always says he's he's a great husband
38:35
but I am Didn't get to So I thought at the time
38:46
I didn't get to resign how I thought Like how
38:51
I wanted to and how I felt God was telling me
38:53
to I think I got anxious and kind of jumped the
38:58
gun a little bit because I planned to go to the
39:05
office and do that but My boss ended up not being
39:09
there. So I was like God What do I do because
39:12
I wanted to be obedient and I was like, oh my
39:14
gosh so I just sent it over email and I Felt
39:20
bad about that because I wanted to I'm very okay.
39:23
We got to do the right thing here so I didn't
39:27
get to do that and then I realized Why God gave
39:32
me those specific instructions because it was
39:35
not It was very uncomfortable when I told my
39:40
co -workers. Hey, I'm leaving Then like questions
39:44
start, you know, so I Think God was trying to
39:49
protect me from that uncomfortable Like the questions
39:52
like why oh, where are you going? Oh, you know
39:56
and I Didn't feel emotionally prepared for that
40:01
and I didn't think of that aspect, but I am Just
40:05
gathered all my personal stuff left all my equipment
40:08
there and just walked out And I was like here
40:12
we go flying by the seat of my pants. It felt
40:16
like I've never really done that before so I
40:20
was I was like, okay God I'm really trusting
40:23
you here. This is really insane. It feels like
40:27
but you led me to it And then I realized through
40:36
that, even through my impatience and losing the
40:41
opportunity to avoid the uncomfortable part of
40:44
that, God turned it around for my good regardless.
40:48
Days later, I finished my coaching certification
40:52
and the knowledge exam for that and then scheduled
40:56
to meet with mentor coaches. You have to purchase
41:02
an additional mentor coaching. Program that's
41:05
I think it was two or three hours long and you
41:08
have to literally sit down and in front of the
41:11
coaches coach other people It's national like
41:14
there are people from all other states nerve
41:17
-racking. Yes. Oh, I was very nervous But I did
41:22
all of that and I got my certification and I
41:26
had advertised about starting the Christian life
41:29
coaching that very day that same day I posted
41:35
about that my old youth group leader reached
41:38
out to me and she said I had no idea you were
41:44
doing a life coaching would you like to see clients
41:47
in person at my practice and she owns a Christian
41:53
holistic wellness center And I was just astonished.
41:57
I started crying. I was like, God. I would too.
41:59
Man, that gives me chills. This is insane. Yeah.
42:02
Um, me too. And I was like just sobbing on the
42:05
couch and my husband, he was sitting on the other
42:08
chair and he just looked at me. He's probably
42:10
like, what is going on with her? He said, what?
42:13
And I explained and he just, I don't think, he
42:17
knew what to say. He just kind of looked at me
42:19
like, what? And I said, this is... this is crazy
42:24
this is amazing um so that was a very unexpected
42:29
blessing and of course i told her yes so now
42:32
i see clients in person there um and even do
42:35
coaching groups from her practice so that's really
42:38
cool too i just started my first coaching group
42:41
um on emotional eating what do you have on facebook
42:45
right so can anybody join that uh or so they
42:49
didn't like ask you anyone can Follow my page.
42:53
I do have a firm foundation Christian life coaching
42:56
LLC page on Facebook. I have an Instagram I'm
43:00
more so on Facebook. I don't I'm not a fan of
43:02
Instagram I do have an Instagram, but I don't
43:05
really post on there. So Facebook is the way
43:08
to go. Okay, but if you join a group I do make
43:12
subgroups on Facebook for people to join that
43:17
way the whole group can stay connected and okay
43:20
uplift and encourage each other and then if there's
43:22
any announcements I need to make that's like
43:25
the best way for me to kind of get that out there
43:27
to everyone all at once but I see clients over
43:33
video call too from my home I do have a home
43:37
office that if you prefer video call or the in
43:41
-person appointments and God's been so good to
43:44
me through this unexpected journey so I see Them
43:49
in person at wall bloomers. I have my own office
43:52
there. I also have a Little mini library. So
43:56
if you need a Bible, there's Bibles there you
43:58
can take or just free books I also have books
44:02
that I sell. I might be donating to that. Okay.
44:05
Thank you But I do have a section where people
44:08
can buy books to like from my personal library
44:11
that I've taken in I do Like date with a book
44:16
if you've seen those I love those are so cool,
44:19
but I call them a date with Jesus So I wrap them
44:26
and it's I kind of give like a little snippet
44:29
of what the books about and you just Can buy
44:34
it and it's it's like a wild card what you get,
44:36
but they're all Christian books. That's so cool
44:38
that people can buy And then I make my own bookmarks,
44:42
too But I'm working on the emotional eating group
44:50
currently in person. I have a waitlist for that.
44:53
It's become kind of popular. So I have to keep
44:56
track of that. It is awesome. I was worried because
45:01
it was my first one starting out. And I was like,
45:04
well, I don't know if I'll get people. And it's
45:06
just God's inundated me with people. And I love
45:10
working with everyone that's a part of that group.
45:13
And I'm excited to work with more people. I love
45:15
meeting people and yapping And teaching so it's
45:20
it's wonderful to get to do that But if anyone
45:25
wants to get a hold of me, they can message me
45:26
on Facebook Or they can email me. I gave you
45:31
my email to link for anyone that wants to reach
45:33
out I'm also working on a few groups One staying
45:37
close to Jesus through anxiety. I did a poll
45:40
on my Facebook group and that seemed to be one
45:44
that was a topic that a lot of people wanted
45:47
to do and I plan to do that one online. I know
45:53
a lot of people it's hard for them to travel
45:55
to Du Bois in person to do a group And if anyone
46:00
wants details on groups or has questions about
46:03
what groups I am planning in the future, you
46:05
can send me a message. I'm always open to chatting
46:09
and giving information if individuals want to
46:13
know more about my coaching. I've always felt
46:18
God meant for me to do something more in my life,
46:21
just working at secular workplaces. and I know
46:25
that I went through all that I did at workplaces
46:27
for a purpose or maybe that God used those negative
46:30
things for my good because He's very good at
46:33
doing that. I'm currently just following the
46:36
Lord and being obedient even when it doesn't
46:38
really make sense initially because just seeing
46:43
Him work everything out for the better in each
46:46
step I take is confirmation that I'm doing His
46:49
will and I feel that peace throughout this journey.
46:53
Okay, so I'm just gonna I will link it in the
46:56
show notes, but it is firm foundations LLC She's
46:59
located at 23 Beaver Drive, Dubois That is in
47:03
Pennsylvania It's located in the wall bloomers
47:07
office But it's its own separate little office
47:10
and you can email Taylor at firm foundations
47:13
clc at gmail .com So I have a couple questions
47:18
just to ask maybe to guide my audience How do
47:21
you help someone who feels distant from God and
47:23
how do you help them reconnect? Absolutely. So
47:26
I first help them identify why they feel distant
47:29
from God. That is a big key to the process, I
47:37
feel. And then I work with them through overcoming
47:41
those obstacles and brainstorming how they can
47:43
overcome those obstacles and draw near to God.
47:47
Oftentimes I see that the busyness of life keeps
47:50
a lot of individuals from that closeness with
47:52
God and it pulls us away from self -discipline
47:56
and from studying His word and praying and talking
47:59
to Him. We kind of feel like, oh, I'll do that
48:01
later. I'm busy right now. I feel overwhelmed
48:03
so I'll just put God on the back burner. And
48:07
another thing that I really drive when talking
48:11
with individuals who are struggling with closeness
48:13
with God, I really drive fellowship with other
48:17
believers. Whether they know where to go or don't
48:23
know where to go and need resources, I will help
48:25
them either way. And having a relationship with
48:29
God is important. I always reinforce that with
48:34
the individuals I talk with, and we have to make
48:36
a conscious decision to do that daily. I have
48:40
a variety of techniques and tools that I use
48:42
to help them, including various resources after
48:45
the session. If you've received my emails and
48:49
I work with you you know that I send a lot and
48:53
I always tell everyone you don't have to use
48:55
all of these I just want you to have them. Yeah
48:57
to be equipped. Yes and that's one of my favorite
49:00
parts of the coaching is the resources because
49:03
I have a whole library that I've I make my own
49:06
I have gathered them from different areas and
49:09
I love doing that and just tailoring Help and
49:16
resources to each individual person. I just think
49:19
that's really important and personal. Yeah So
49:24
something that's big for me is how do you break
49:26
cycles of fear anxiety or fight or flight? from
49:31
a biblical perspective So that's another great
49:36
question I've struggled with this myself and
49:39
continue to Anxiety and fear are the byproducts
49:42
of prioritizing a problem or heavy burden over
49:45
trusting in God's power and care. When we obsess
49:48
over potential negative outcomes or current negative
49:51
happenings and try to figure it out on our own
49:53
rather than relying on God, we feel the weight
49:55
of anxiety and fear and we can get stuck in that
49:58
fight or flight. Cognitive behavioral therapy
50:02
tools are really effective with this. and focus
50:05
on reframing thoughts and replacing negative
50:07
thoughts with positive thoughts to form new autonomic
50:11
or automatic thinking in regards to thinking
50:14
positively and not always listening to every
50:16
negative thought that pops into our heads. So
50:19
taking every thought captive like the Bible tells
50:21
us. I love cognitive behavioral therapy and I
50:26
used that when I worked with teens and young
50:29
kiddos. That was a big thing that we did. We
50:32
would reframe those thoughts and um you know
50:36
help them replace negative behaviors or thoughts
50:39
with positive behaviors or thoughts and it really
50:42
helped um the more we practice a habit the more
50:45
it sticks and the more neural pathways our brains
50:48
form towards the good or bad habits we practice
50:51
so we can essentially rewire our brains to automatically
50:54
think positive thoughts rather than automatically
50:57
going to the negative which is really awesome.
50:59
God designed us to do that. He designed us in
51:03
amazing ways. The body is crazy. It's cool. I
51:06
know it is. So how can faith and emotional healing
51:10
work together instead of feeling separate? Yes.
51:14
In my life, when I fell away from God, I struggled
51:19
with this. So I love this question. um the world
51:22
tries to separate faith and feeling in christian
51:26
life coaching we confront both at once using
51:28
a biblical lens and worldview to walk through
51:30
emotional healing together so the world tells
51:33
us that diagnoses and feelings are who we are
51:37
they're our identity but as christians we know
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our identity is in christ the world tells us
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follow your heart and the lord tells us in jeremiah
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17 9 The heart is deceitful above all things
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and desperately wicked. Who can know it? Our
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hearts are untrustworthy for relying on ourselves
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for guidance. And we should not as Christians
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be searching inwardly for guidance anyway, nor
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should we have self -centered thinking. We should
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value others above ourselves and we should be
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self -aware and strive to be Christ -like, not
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wallow in what we think cannot be changed in
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us. God is not limited to what we think. he can
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and cannot do. He is powerful and when we're
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rooted in him and his truths found in the bible
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we can allow him to be our guide and that includes
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him using others as physical vessels for him
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to help us emotionally heal and overcome trauma
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and inward turmoil. In bible times water was
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used as a chaos metaphor. Jesus walks on the
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water and the chaos and quiets the storms in
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our lives and we need only to be still. He works
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all things for the good of those who believe
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in him, the Bible tells us. Oh, I love that.
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Maybe that's why I feel so calm when I'm at the
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beach and just staring out at the water. So what
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does biblical healing look like for trauma or
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deep wounds? So in the social services field
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or PTSD, I guess that's that's probably one of
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my biggest right now. Just from my diagnosis,
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I have crazy PTSD PTSD from it. So in the social
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services field, I've worked with trauma victims
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both young and old who, you know, post -traumatic
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stress disorder, any kind of trauma related disorders.
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I've walked with individuals from all phases
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of the lifespan through these difficulties and
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heard their cries for help. I've witnessed firsthand
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how the chains of trauma and deep wounds grip
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the ankles of people like a leech they can't
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get rid of. Although through a secular lens people
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often think trauma defines who they are for the
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rest of their lives God breaks every chain that
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binds us and gives us new life no matter what
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we've done or where we've been or what we've
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endured Whether by our own doing or at the hands
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of someone else God can break the grip of those
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wounds and that trauma if we just allow him to
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Does that mean it didn't happen? No Does that
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mean it won't still hurt from time to time? No
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What happens when we fully surrender our burdens
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to Christ is? That what happened to us does not
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control our hearts or minds any longer, so it
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doesn't have that grip on us We can take every
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thought captive and give it to God let go and
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let God my friends So what are some simple ways
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to grow spiritually for someone just starting
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out so some simple ways to grow spiritually for
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just For those just coming to know Christ, I
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think would be to read about who Jesus is and
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what He did for you at the cross. So the whole
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point of why we love Jesus. The Book of John
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would be a great place to start. Yes. A lot of
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scholars suggest to read the New Testament, beginning
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at the Book of John. That's what I was going
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to say next. So that's perfect, yes. Yeah, don't
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start at the Old Testament, that's for sure.
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Maybe Jenna says it's okay, but yeah. So make
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sure to get involved with a Bible study group
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or seek to find Christian fellowship in another
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fellow believer who can encourage and uplift
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you and lovingly correct you as needed and to
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keep you accountable in your walk with Christ.
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I think that is so important to find a good church
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family so you can gain a deeper understanding.
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It's good to have teachers in your life. such
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as a preacher or a Sunday school teacher that
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really knows how to communicate what God's saying
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in his word to you in an accurate way. Being
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surrounded by believers is so important and not
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just those with specific spiritual gifts but
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with a whole family of believers that can encourage
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support and learn from others through your own
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God -given gifts. So on the coaching side, what
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are some of the patterns you see holding most
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people back and how is Christian, I guess, how
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do you say it? Is it Christian coaching, life
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coaching? Okay, I just wanna make sure I'm saying
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it right. Life coaching, coaching. Okay, how
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is that different from traditional life coaching?
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So I think some of the patterns that hold clients
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back are anxiety and fear. Also, I've seen blaming
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God for how some people have misrepresented him,
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like I mentioned earlier, and deep -rooted trauma.
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Christian life coaching is life coaching through
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a biblical lens and using God's truth to encourage
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an uplift and help clients maneuver life and
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reach their goals. So that differs from traditional
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life coaching because the traditional life coaching
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is more personal success driven without using
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biblical principles and values. Okay. So before
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we head into rapid fire, I asked these three
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questions at the end of every podcast. What is
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your favorite Bible verse? My favorite Bible
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verse would have to be Hebrews 13 to do not neglect
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to show hospitality to strangers for thereby
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some have entertained angels unaware. Love it.
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And what is one thing you tell your younger self
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today? Don't turn your back on God. And what
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legacy would you like to leave behind? I would
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have to say that I'd want to leave behind the
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legacy of Christ. I hope there are people in
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heaven that I've spoken with one day that tell
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God, thank you for allowing her to share about
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Jesus with me. Oh, I love that. Okay, so we're
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gonna move on to rapid fire. Morning routine
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must have... Oh, this would have to be... This
57:39
is the favorite part of... every morning. My
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husband and I will sit down for breakfast and
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we'll have deep theological conversation. And
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I love it. And we have been late to work a few
57:51
times because of it. We just get on this roll
57:54
and he's like, oh my gosh, I gotta go. Or I'm
57:57
like, I have to leave. I should have left like
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10 minutes ago. That's awesome that you two have
58:01
that together. Favorite worship artist? You might
58:07
laugh at me. Or you can do a song, it doesn't
58:09
matter. So my favorite... The worship artist
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would be Hal V and he's he's Christian hip -hop
58:15
rap But he has a beautiful worship Sense of worship.
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Okay, one of my favorite songs by him to worship
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to is altar It's beautiful. I'll send it to you
58:30
later Makes me cry every time I listen to it,
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but I think he's awesome One habit you do that
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changes everything I think Waking up at the same
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time every day. I wish I Well, I do because of
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my husband Especially if I have something on
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my mind for our deep theological conversation
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Favorite snack I would have to say giggles. They're
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organics. I love those. They're so good. They're
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my favorite. I think they're better than I'm
59:06
a favorite way to rest I enjoy reading in my
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hammock or watercolor painting. Oh, I should
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try that one. If you can ask one person in the
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Bible a question, who and what? I hope we get
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to do this one day in heaven. Just get to sit
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down with them and ask them questions. I hope
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so, too. I think it would be. I have to think
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about this one. Think definitely I Think definitely
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I would want to ask Jesus We can skip it if you
1:00:02
don't go over I think I'd want to ask Jesus If
1:00:10
he, while he was on earth with the disciples,
1:00:14
if he knew their thoughts, like if he knew, I
1:00:19
would want to know that. I do want to know that.
1:00:23
Yeah. That's cool. Well, Taylor, thank you again
1:00:25
so much for coming on today. I believe your testimony
1:00:28
will guide my audience and it just truly shows
1:00:31
how Jesus shows up for you and for everybody's
1:00:34
life. For my audience, I want to encourage you
1:00:37
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1:00:39
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1:00:42
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1:00:44
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1:00:47
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1:00:51
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1:00:55
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