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Ep. 369: Rut Fresh Radio 9/9/20 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three,
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Speaker 1: six nine and we're back today for our first episode
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Speaker 1: of our rout Fresh Radio mini series for two thousand twenty,
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Speaker 1: in which we are getting the latest reports from across
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Speaker 1: the country on current deer activity, behavior, and what you
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Speaker 1: need to do right now to fill your tag. All right,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the wire Hunt podcast, brought to you by
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Speaker 1: on X. As you just heard, we are back with
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Speaker 1: a new season of rout Fresh Radio. If you're new
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Speaker 1: to the wire Dhunt podcast, this is something we do
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Speaker 1: every single year during hunting season. Myself and co producer
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Speaker 1: Spencer new Hearth rock out an extra epiod so every
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Speaker 1: week of this series in which we get hot intel
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Speaker 1: from different deer hunters all across the country each week
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Speaker 1: telling us, you know, what kind of deer activity we're seeing,
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Speaker 1: how our current conditions impacting dear behavior, what types of
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Speaker 1: things right now would be working as far as tips
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Speaker 1: and tactics. That's the kind of stuff we're gonna cover
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Speaker 1: in just a minute, I'm gonna hop over to a
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Speaker 1: quick introductory conversation that myself and Spencer new Hearth had.
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Speaker 1: I'm on the road hunting Idaho, so you're gonna hear
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Speaker 1: me calling in from the phone, but we'll hear Spencer
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Speaker 1: and I kick things off, and then we'll get to
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Speaker 1: Spencer's interviews with four different hunters from across the country
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Speaker 1: getting all sorts of interesting insights, and then make sure
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Speaker 1: to stay tuned for one of these each Wednesday throughout
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Speaker 1: the rest of the fall. It's gonna get you the
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Speaker 1: best updated information you could possibly ask for coming into
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Speaker 1: your hunts. So, without further ado, let's kick it to
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Speaker 1: the intro to this season of rut Fresh Radio. Uh,
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Speaker 1: Spencer or it is? It is good to be back
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Speaker 1: doing a rout Fresh Radio with you, my friend. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this this like feels the most normal out as I
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Speaker 1: shoot my bow and prep for a haunt and look
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Speaker 1: at on X like that's one thing that feels normal
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Speaker 1: in a time of a lot of things and not
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Speaker 1: feeling normal. That is true. And what else is normal
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Speaker 1: for rot Fresh Radio is me calling in from a
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Speaker 1: pickup truck on my phone while I'm driving back from
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Speaker 1: a hunt. So we're kicking it off on a strong note, man, Yes,
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Speaker 1: but we were looking for the freshest, hottest intel anywhere
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Speaker 1: in the world. Right, so you can't get it better
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Speaker 1: than really right off the tree stand right. That's right,
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Speaker 1: That's right. That's why I like these calls. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: you know, anyone listening, I heard my very brief instro
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Speaker 1: giving you the fifteen second rundown of what these episodes
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Speaker 1: are all about. Anyone who's been a long time listener
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Speaker 1: why're done, knows what Refresh Radio was about. But I
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Speaker 1: don't know. You've been doing this four years, Spencers the
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Speaker 1: start season. This is the fifth season, fifth season, I
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Speaker 1: think I think we started in sixteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
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Speaker 1: nine twenty. That's crazy. So five years end up doing
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Speaker 1: these Now, if you were to make the sales pitch
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Speaker 1: to someone tuning into this kind of thing for the
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Speaker 1: first time, now that you've done it for five years,
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Speaker 1: agot all the experience. You know what this is all about.
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Speaker 1: You know what folks that have listened to have thought
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Speaker 1: about it. What's what's the Spencer new Hearth pitch on
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Speaker 1: Fresh Radio? Why should people be tuning in every week
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Speaker 1: for this rut Fresh Radio is the most timely dear
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Speaker 1: movement reports that you can possibly get UM. And in
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Speaker 1: every episode, we're gonna talk to four or five experts
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Speaker 1: throughout the country and hear about what they've been doing.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about different things, is like moon phases
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Speaker 1: and weather patterns and crop status and browse status, hunting
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Speaker 1: pressure signmaking. Everything that's relevant to a white tail hunter,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna hear about their
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Speaker 1: tips and tactics, and then we also sort of have
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Speaker 1: a forecast on deared movement and we do this all
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Speaker 1: in about a thirty minute episode to make it super digestible,
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Speaker 1: that sort of thing you can listen to on your
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Speaker 1: drive to work or put it on over your lunch break, UM,
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna come away hopefully learning something UM and
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Speaker 1: then using the information that you hear all our experts
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Speaker 1: talk about and apply it to your hunt's coming up
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Speaker 1: over the weekend. And this is particularly important for a
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Speaker 1: lot of folks right now because there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: opening days that either just happened or are about to
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Speaker 1: happen right There's like September twelve, I think opens in Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin or something like that, and Missouri always opens the fifteen,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know a bunch of states I know
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Speaker 1: are are opening up here pretty soon. So I'm sure
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are Auntie getting the
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Speaker 1: amps to get in the woods and and want that
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Speaker 1: latest information. So the question then is this, Spencer, do
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Speaker 1: you have the goods to provide the people this week
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Speaker 1: that are going to be hit in the woods for
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Speaker 1: the first time? We have the goods. We We talked
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Speaker 1: to four hunters this week in Nebraska, South Carolina, North Dakota,
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Speaker 1: and Kentucky, and two of them were successful and just
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Speaker 1: killed deer within the last couple of days here. And
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Speaker 1: when I say you know that we have like the
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Speaker 1: most relevant timely info, um, I genuinely mean it, because
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Speaker 1: we're talking to people like you, Mark, that just got
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Speaker 1: in their pick up out of the tree stand, or
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Speaker 1: we're talking to somebody that just got done gutting a walk,
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. But this week we talked to Tyler
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Speaker 1: Jones from the Element podcast in Nebraska, Richard Peoples in
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Speaker 1: South Carolina, and then in North Dakota from White Tailed DNA,
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Speaker 1: talked to Alex Compstock and then Greg Farrell from First
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Speaker 1: Light in Kentucky Beautiful. Do we have any kind of
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Speaker 1: high level takeaway or do we have something that we
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Speaker 1: should be listening into particular as we listen to interviews
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Speaker 1: so that we get the most out of it. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that there's like one big takeaway from this week.
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Speaker 1: You know, something that I think is really interesting is
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Speaker 1: two of the hunters we talked to this week, we're
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Speaker 1: hunting public land. Two of them were hunting private land.
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Speaker 1: And you'll sort of hear the difference in urgency when
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Speaker 1: you talk to those hunters um. You know, Tyler and
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Speaker 1: Alex were traveling bow hunters um out of state on
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Speaker 1: public land, and they're just a little bit more aggressive,
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Speaker 1: Like they're hunting in the mornings, UM, and they're looking
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Speaker 1: for sign and they're getting closer to betting and things
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Speaker 1: like that. And then you have like Richard Peebles in
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Speaker 1: South Carolina where he's around these properties a lot more
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Speaker 1: so it's about more conservative approach UM. And Greg was
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Speaker 1: down in some private ground in Kentucky where he can
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Speaker 1: return to if need be. And so I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: this year you're gonna have like some of the biggest
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Speaker 1: discrepancy in how aggressive a hunter is based on, like
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Speaker 1: if they're traveling out of state, they're hunting private ground
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Speaker 1: or public ground. Uh. And I'm guessing you'll hear some
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Speaker 1: things Mark that are pretty relatable to your early September
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Speaker 1: haunts being in Idaho. Yeah, that's the truth. And I
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Speaker 1: think you hit the nail on the head right there.
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Speaker 1: You know. I don't want to give too much away
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Speaker 1: about the Idaho hunt because the main episode of Wired
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Speaker 1: Hunt this week is going to be the full recap
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Speaker 1: of that trip. But um, but definitely, we have had
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Speaker 1: to approach things in a very different way that I
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Speaker 1: would ever hunt private land that I could, you know,
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Speaker 1: have multiple opportunities at throughout the rest of you. We've
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Speaker 1: been very aggressive. We've had to do a lot of
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Speaker 1: different things. We've had to hunt mornings, we've had to
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Speaker 1: hunt betting years, We've had, I don't know, done just
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Speaker 1: about everything but write a unicycle upside down. So so
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Speaker 1: it's been the trip, man. I'll tell you what. My
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Speaker 1: my teaser for tomorrow's podcast is that it has been
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Speaker 1: a trip. Um. But but yes, I am interested to
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Speaker 1: hear what these folks have to say when in to
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Speaker 1: your point, not only does weather and time of year,
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Speaker 1: and all these different factors influence what you should be
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Speaker 1: doing as a deer hunter and when you should be
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Speaker 1: hunting certain places, but also where you're hunting public versus private.
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Speaker 1: So I think that's something, as you point out, for
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Speaker 1: us to key into throughout the whole year. And if
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Speaker 1: you're new to the podcast, you'll learn that. I ask
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Speaker 1: everybody the exact same question at the beginning and the
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Speaker 1: end of the phone call. Uh, And I've been asking
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Speaker 1: to you Mark, because you've been at this for about
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Speaker 1: a week now. So in Idaho, on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to tend, what do you think the bucket activity
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Speaker 1: has been? And then in the coming week, on a
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Speaker 1: scale of one to tend, what do you think that
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Speaker 1: bucket activity is going to be? In Idaho? It has
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Speaker 1: been a a five point seven five. So I say
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Speaker 1: that because we have seen some night without giving too
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Speaker 1: much away, we've seen some good bucks and we've seen
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Speaker 1: a good number of deer um. But almost all the
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Speaker 1: movement every day has been in the last half hour
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Speaker 1: forty five minutes. It's been very late movement, and it's
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Speaker 1: a very quick little blip, and you've had to try
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Speaker 1: to take advantage of that. Um So, so it's a
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Speaker 1: little above average because we're seeing quite a few, but
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Speaker 1: it's not like rampant. Uh. That's that's my answer for
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Speaker 1: your first question. And did you already ask the second question?
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Speaker 1: He did, So, what do I think is it going
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Speaker 1: to be moving forward? I think it's going to get
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Speaker 1: better because it has been in the nineties here for
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Speaker 1: most of the week that we've been hunting. It's been
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Speaker 1: super crazy hot, and a coal front just hit today
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Speaker 1: and so today was the first day of the cold front.
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Speaker 1: I gotta believe it's gonna keep on getting better. So
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it as a seven. Moving forward, as
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Speaker 1: I think, um these deer will be hitting the feedbag
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Speaker 1: and where they've not been crazy pressured, I'm sure they've
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Speaker 1: been moving pretty well. All right, Mark, Well, I think
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Speaker 1: that's a good teaser for tomorrow's episode, and I think
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Speaker 1: that's a good way to set the table for the
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Speaker 1: rest of our episode. In the beginning of season five
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Speaker 1: of Red Fresh Radio, sounds good to me, Spencer, take
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Speaker 1: it away, Talk to you next week, Mark alright in
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Speaker 1: joining us on the line now is Tyler Jones from
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Speaker 1: The Element podcast. Now Tyler in Nebraska, what would you
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Speaker 1: say the buck activities been lately on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten. Uh, Man, I'm gonna give it a
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Speaker 1: five probably and know that's kind of right in the middle.
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Speaker 1: But it depends on really whether you're talking about the
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Speaker 1: rud or whether you're talking about morning or evening movement.
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Speaker 1: The evening movement was a lot shorter lived. It seemed
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Speaker 1: like the morning movement, uh seemed to last longer. And
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Speaker 1: I think the cool weather had something to do with that.
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Speaker 1: But you know, the heat of the afternoon tend to
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Speaker 1: be you tended to see buck movement right around sunset
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Speaker 1: or a little early if you were lucky. But it
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Speaker 1: was good. The you know, the early season pattern is
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Speaker 1: something that we were definitely seeing and we were able
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Speaker 1: to uh kind of game momental one. Were you seeing
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Speaker 1: a lot of bucks still in bachelor groups in Nebraska?
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Speaker 1: Not really know? Um? And we we hunted a portion
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Speaker 1: of the state, not necessarily just one area and across
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Speaker 1: the board. Um, if they were in a bachelor group
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Speaker 1: that I mean, we probably didn't see any more than
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Speaker 1: two bucks together, um. And lots of loner bucks for sure,
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Speaker 1: even even the smaller bucks were by themselves. What food
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Speaker 1: sources were you focused on all week? Um, Well, we
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Speaker 1: went into the to the hunt with the plan to
11:28
Speaker 1: focus on the green food sources like alfalfa and beans
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Speaker 1: and ended up um kind of throughout the hunt figuring
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Speaker 1: out how heavily they were using corn and all the
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Speaker 1: corn is still up and uh. It made it very
11:43
Speaker 1: very difficult for us, um because you know, typically what
11:47
Speaker 1: you think of if you hear any kind of media
11:49
Speaker 1: in the white tailed deer hunting world, you're talking about
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Speaker 1: a bed to feed pattern and bed being in the day,
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Speaker 1: feed being at night. So in the evenings you're hunting
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Speaker 1: deer that are headed from heading to the feed to
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Speaker 1: the food source these big agricultural fields corn fields for example,
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Speaker 1: But these deer living in corn um and if the
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Speaker 1: corn has a pivot in it, it's got water source
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Speaker 1: for him, and if it's got you know, and obviously
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Speaker 1: it's got food source for him, and then you've got
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Speaker 1: shade from the heat. In those big corn fields, they've
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Speaker 1: got everything they need there. So we almost found like
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Speaker 1: an exact opposite uh pattern of movement or direction of
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Speaker 1: movement where um, you know, I was able to get
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Speaker 1: drawn on a deer um that was leaving corn in
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Speaker 1: the evening, So they were It was kind of weird,
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Speaker 1: but they were coming out of the corn in the
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Speaker 1: evening and kind of just doing some you know, just
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Speaker 1: random kind of exploring. I guess you could say, um,
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Speaker 1: in all the brush and the creek bottom and the
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Speaker 1: and they just you know, grazing pastures and that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing out of the corn. So UM, it was
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Speaker 1: hard to to put that together with it ingrain in
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Speaker 1: your mind that they're going to bed in the brush
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Speaker 1: and feed in the corn fields. It was the exact opposite,
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Speaker 1: and it made it difficult. UM. But we did have
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Speaker 1: a pretty close encounter. Were you doing any morning haunts
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Speaker 1: in Nebraska? Um, Yes, we did a few, UM, and
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Speaker 1: most of them were of kind of an observation type
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Speaker 1: of stand. We would try to find, um a tree
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Speaker 1: that we could see a pretty vast area of and
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Speaker 1: that way we could PenPoint deer going into the corn. Um.
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Speaker 1: If we didn't hunt out of a tree, UM, we
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Speaker 1: would oftentimes drive. I bet we drove about half the
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Speaker 1: mornings are a little less and we hunted you know
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Speaker 1: the other half. Um, But we would drive. We would
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Speaker 1: get up on hills and glass and um, deer, we're
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Speaker 1: moving a lot in the mornings, I think, um, even
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Speaker 1: in the early season, I totally think hunting in the
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Speaker 1: morning makes sense. I mean we had the the morning
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Speaker 1: before we had the buck encounter on this strip really
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Speaker 1: close range. Um, we actually had that bucket a hundred
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Speaker 1: yards in the morning from from our tree. So, UM,
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Speaker 1: you know, I definitely think it's worth it. Uh, probably
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Speaker 1: worth being very conservative and careful, especially if you're hunting
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Speaker 1: a private piece that you don't want to mess up.
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Speaker 1: But um, you know, probably probably worth hunting if you
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Speaker 1: can make good plans for it. This time of year.
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Speaker 1: Did water factory into any of your setups at all?
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Speaker 1: It did, actually, Um, we had some we had two
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Speaker 1: fronts in about five or six days that we hunted,
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Speaker 1: so it was it was pretty good weather overall, but
14:32
Speaker 1: there was a couple of days when it was like
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Speaker 1: load of mid nineties, um, which from what I understand,
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Speaker 1: it's pretty hot up there. It's not too hot for texting.
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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, that was definitely something that played
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Speaker 1: into our last hunt. Um, we kind of sold out.
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Speaker 1: We moved for the last evening, UH, drove about an
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Speaker 1: hour and a half down the road and set up
14:52
Speaker 1: on upon that I could see from the aerial was
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Speaker 1: super clear as compared to some the other tanks around it,
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Speaker 1: and it looked like to me that it was going
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Speaker 1: to be spring fed. Um, it was really dry in Nebraska,
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Speaker 1: and everybody, all the locals, talked about how dry it
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Speaker 1: was this year while I was up there. So I thought, well,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to find a tank or pond that's got
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Speaker 1: water in it right now. And so this spring fed pond,
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Speaker 1: if it is spring fed in fact, you know, we
15:19
Speaker 1: should have some deer around it. It's about a mile
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Speaker 1: in and we went in and hunted. It had water
15:25
Speaker 1: quite a bit, and we had a really good hunt
15:27
Speaker 1: that even actually we saw about fifteen deer um and
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Speaker 1: we just didn't have any any bucks that we thought
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Speaker 1: we needed to take home come by us that evening.
15:37
Speaker 1: But I think it's definitely a tactic if if you
15:39
Speaker 1: get some heat this time of year, for sure going
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Speaker 1: forward then in the sex week or so, what do
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Speaker 1: you think that buck activity is going to be on
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Speaker 1: a scale of one to tend in Nebraska. It's a
15:49
Speaker 1: good question. I think that, Um, you know that we're
15:52
Speaker 1: gonna see cold weather coming in across most of the US. UM,
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Speaker 1: And I think that the big massive cold front is
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Speaker 1: gonna push a lot of animals around, um, and I
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Speaker 1: think that it's gonna get them up on their feet. Um.
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Speaker 1: It looks like not just cold weather, but some snow
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I don't know exactly what
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Speaker 1: the forecast is for Nebraska going forward. I'm kind of
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Speaker 1: thinking about Colorado, but I would assume that, uh, with
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Speaker 1: that cooler weather, that the deer really going to start
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Speaker 1: moving around. I don't know what that does to the
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Speaker 1: corn crop. I don't know like what colder attempts might
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Speaker 1: do to that crop, and and with the farmers and
16:28
Speaker 1: how when they would pull out corn and that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing, um, But I would assume that just overall
16:33
Speaker 1: general movement, being that it seemed like it was good
16:36
Speaker 1: in the mornings or better in the mornings than the
16:38
Speaker 1: evenings because of the cool weather, I would assume that
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Speaker 1: cooler weather could definitely bump the the movement up. So
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Speaker 1: I would say, like, if you're if you're looking to
16:47
Speaker 1: hunt on early season pattern you've got, you know, you're
16:50
Speaker 1: gonna look at like a six or seven on the
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Speaker 1: movement scale. Um, And hopefully that leads us into some
16:56
Speaker 1: pre rut stuff. Alright, Tyler, great Intel, good luck with
17:00
Speaker 1: the rest of your season, and thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: Thanks man, I appreciate you having me Spencer alright and
17:05
Speaker 1: joining us on the podcast. Next is Richard People's in
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Now Richard in South Carolina. What would you
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Speaker 1: say the bucket activities man? Lately on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten, So I think as we're moving into
17:17
Speaker 1: September and right now our buck movement has been about
17:21
Speaker 1: two to a two and a half. Everything seems to
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Speaker 1: be really nocturnal right now. And um, I hope we're
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Speaker 1: putting forward. We're going to start to get into this
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Speaker 1: next month's and our buckets TABE will pick back up
17:32
Speaker 1: more in daylight, probably more in the mornings and afternoons.
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Speaker 1: But as of right now we're probably sitting at like
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Speaker 1: a two two and a half for daylight activity for bucks.
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Speaker 1: South Carolina has one of the earliest openers in the country.
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Speaker 1: And I know you've been hunting since the middle of August,
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Speaker 1: So how has deer movement changed in the last three
17:50
Speaker 1: weeks or so? Well? As as we're in our summer
17:53
Speaker 1: pattern in the deer in velvet and they're really bachelored up. Um,
17:57
Speaker 1: depending on your food sources on your property. Your daylight
18:01
Speaker 1: activity can be really good if you have a good
18:03
Speaker 1: solid food source and the Bassaard group coast to bedding. Um,
18:06
Speaker 1: a lot of times you have a lot of daylight activity. UM.
18:09
Speaker 1: My properties, I have food plots and and feeders set
18:12
Speaker 1: up all year round. So my day letter is really
18:16
Speaker 1: good in the mornings and really good in the afternoons.
18:18
Speaker 1: But as the season opens and they start feeling that pressure. Um,
18:22
Speaker 1: you know, your daylight activity starts to go down as
18:25
Speaker 1: we start to move into September. And that's that's kind
18:28
Speaker 1: of where we're at right now. Um, it's just that
18:31
Speaker 1: transitional period between velvet summer patterns. We stripped velvet and
18:35
Speaker 1: now we're kind of we have that low between velvet
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Speaker 1: and then pre rut and a lot of a lot
18:43
Speaker 1: of stress on the animals as we have hunting season
18:47
Speaker 1: now and um, we're kind of in that low period
18:49
Speaker 1: where everything is nocturnal. You mentioned food sources. What are
18:54
Speaker 1: some of the food sources that haunters should be keyed
18:56
Speaker 1: in on in that part of the country right now. Well,
18:59
Speaker 1: if you have the beans, beans are king, um that
19:03
Speaker 1: if you have if you have a big beans filled. Uh,
19:06
Speaker 1: you're you're ruling the roofs right now. Um. Most deer
19:09
Speaker 1: this time of year are traveling miles to get to
19:12
Speaker 1: a good bean field. Um. I have some food plots
19:15
Speaker 1: planet in astronomy and clover which astronomy, if you guys
19:19
Speaker 1: will know, is also known as deer fetch um, which
19:23
Speaker 1: is very attractive as soon as it starts to bloom. Um.
19:27
Speaker 1: And that and some clover and some clay peas is
19:30
Speaker 1: what I have planted right now with. Also, I was
19:32
Speaker 1: running protein and corn over the summer, which now we're
19:35
Speaker 1: switching more into just strictly corn um. But if you
19:39
Speaker 1: have a big bean field, um, maybe even a cut
19:42
Speaker 1: corn field, those can also be very good, uh food attractives.
19:46
Speaker 1: It looks like the weather in that part of the
19:47
Speaker 1: country is pretty stagnant for the next week or so.
19:50
Speaker 1: Do you have any special tactics or tips for people
19:54
Speaker 1: that are hunting when the weather is just eight to
19:56
Speaker 1: nine degrees every single day for like the next ten days. Well,
20:00
Speaker 1: right now, I've been checking the weather too, because this
20:03
Speaker 1: is uh, strictly when I when I hunt is on
20:07
Speaker 1: when we get a cold front come down right now,
20:09
Speaker 1: And it looks like over the next three weeks. Actually
20:11
Speaker 1: we have a couple I say cold fronts, but basically
20:14
Speaker 1: they're just low pressures moving down through the South Um
20:17
Speaker 1: and it will lower our temperatures, you know, for that
20:20
Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning until eight o'clock range down
20:23
Speaker 1: into the six degrees um. So I'm looking for that
20:27
Speaker 1: first movement in daylight. Maybe just stretch us out in
20:30
Speaker 1: after great daylight and do hunting hours or legal shooting hours,
20:34
Speaker 1: or maybe you get that five minutes where you get
20:35
Speaker 1: a buck moving in there. But you know that it's
20:39
Speaker 1: you know, it's so hard right now this time of
20:41
Speaker 1: year with it being ninety degrees in the afternoon. So
20:43
Speaker 1: if you do get one of those little pressures and
20:44
Speaker 1: it gets you down in that six six three degree
20:47
Speaker 1: rains in the morning, maybe one of your bucks will
20:49
Speaker 1: stick around long enough to get a shot on them.
20:53
Speaker 1: Early season in South Carolina is also your hurricane season.
20:57
Speaker 1: How do things change and how does your hunting change
21:00
Speaker 1: when we have a hurricane move in pacans approaching um.
21:04
Speaker 1: First thing, first, let's get prepared for the hurricane. Make
21:07
Speaker 1: sure everything's good there, but for deer movement and for hunting.
21:10
Speaker 1: When you are prepared, your house and all that you've
21:13
Speaker 1: got all your supplies. Um. As the hurricanes moving in, uh,
21:17
Speaker 1: you're gonna start to get a big pressure change. And
21:19
Speaker 1: deer and all the animals feel at pressure change. They
21:22
Speaker 1: know what's going on in the atmosphere and with the weather. Uh.
21:25
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a big movement of white tail
21:28
Speaker 1: or of deer at some point. Um. And they're gonna
21:31
Speaker 1: be hitting the food because you know they're gonna have
21:32
Speaker 1: to be bedded up for long. Uh So your food
21:35
Speaker 1: sources again are gonna key to that, you know, pressure
21:39
Speaker 1: change as some kind of storm system is moving in.
21:42
Speaker 1: Do you notice any shift embedding from mid August until
21:45
Speaker 1: right now from a chure Bucks, Yeah, absolutely, I definitely noticed,
21:49
Speaker 1: um a shift inbedding. Uh. And there's summer patterns when
21:53
Speaker 1: they're all baschetard up. If we do have a heavy
21:55
Speaker 1: rainfall year, they're gonna be up on the high ground. Uh.
21:57
Speaker 1: In your your planet pines normally your lines that have
22:00
Speaker 1: been implanted in the last ten years that are probably
22:03
Speaker 1: six to eight feet high where there's a lot of vegetation. Um.
22:07
Speaker 1: And they can get in there and be able to
22:09
Speaker 1: get in the ship and bed down in the earlier
22:13
Speaker 1: in the year. Uh and I try to key in
22:15
Speaker 1: on those kind of betting sources going forward. Then in
22:19
Speaker 1: the sixt week or so, what do you think that
22:21
Speaker 1: buck activt is going to be on a scale of
22:23
Speaker 1: one to ten in South Carolina? Uh? Yeah, Well, you know,
22:27
Speaker 1: we're kind of getting a low pressure system that's kind
22:29
Speaker 1: of gonna come through this week. Um. So I'm hoping
22:33
Speaker 1: on the mornings are definitely gonna be better, and I'm
22:35
Speaker 1: just gonna try to catch uh so that first hour
22:39
Speaker 1: of daylight. Um, I'm just hoping that buck stays up
22:41
Speaker 1: on their feet for that extra ten minutes right now
22:44
Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes past legal shooting light and maybe just
22:48
Speaker 1: catch them slipping. Other than that, it's very hit or
22:50
Speaker 1: miss in the afternoons, and I'm not seeing any gear
22:53
Speaker 1: movement on my cameras or a while I'm in the
22:55
Speaker 1: stand for for the afternoons. All right, Richard, But I
22:59
Speaker 1: hope they things turn around for you in South Carolina.
23:01
Speaker 1: Good luck and thanks for joining me, all right, and
23:03
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you. Good luck to everybody, all right,
23:06
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Alex Compstock
23:09
Speaker 1: in North Dakota from White Tailed DNA now Alex in
23:12
Speaker 1: North Dakota, what would you say the buck activity has
23:15
Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten. I'd
23:17
Speaker 1: say in the last week it's probably been in about
23:19
Speaker 1: an eight. We've had some really good weather conditions in
23:23
Speaker 1: North Dakota that's solicited quite a bit of movement. We
23:25
Speaker 1: had six guys in deer camp over opening weekend and
23:28
Speaker 1: pretty much I think every guy was seeing Shooter Bucks
23:32
Speaker 1: and or having counters with Shooter Bucks. A couple of
23:35
Speaker 1: nights ago, you arrowed an awesome dear tell us about
23:37
Speaker 1: that hunt. Yeah, so that was actually morning hunt. We
23:42
Speaker 1: got a substantial cold front that rolled through on months
23:46
Speaker 1: like Sunday night in the Monday, and so, you know,
23:50
Speaker 1: typically early season, I'm focusing on the evening. Hunt says.
23:53
Speaker 1: You know, getting into a morning spot can be rather difficult. Um,
23:56
Speaker 1: but with it went from you know, in the eighties,
24:00
Speaker 1: in the forties, and so we slipped into a spot
24:03
Speaker 1: in the morning. We're in some oaks about fifty yards
24:06
Speaker 1: off of bean Field, and we got set up about
24:09
Speaker 1: an hour and a half before first light. And as
24:11
Speaker 1: soon as I got light out, I could see deer out,
24:13
Speaker 1: you know, just shadows out in the beans, and there's
24:15
Speaker 1: a ton of deer in the beans, and they started
24:17
Speaker 1: working their way back towards me into the woods, towards
24:20
Speaker 1: their bedding, and I had a nice maturity pointer comes
24:24
Speaker 1: through and kind of just read the script and I
24:27
Speaker 1: was able to arrow on my thirty yards working the scrape. Actually,
24:29
Speaker 1: so it was pretty cool hunting early season in the mornings.
24:34
Speaker 1: How close to the bedding are you actually getting? We
24:38
Speaker 1: weren't terribly close to the bedding. I'd stay within a
24:41
Speaker 1: few hundred yards, but we had we had to come
24:44
Speaker 1: through I guess where they probably were headed more to
24:47
Speaker 1: bed and so that was why we wanted to get
24:50
Speaker 1: in so early, because you know, typically in the morning,
24:53
Speaker 1: the deer already usually you know, back to better close
24:55
Speaker 1: and so on a typical morning you probably renny busting
24:57
Speaker 1: deer going out. But with the with the giant col
25:00
Speaker 1: front that I had rolled through, that allowed us, I think,
25:02
Speaker 1: to slip in essentially at the back door and have
25:05
Speaker 1: a successful hunt. You mentioned that that book was working
25:08
Speaker 1: as scrape. Did you see a lot of signmaking when
25:11
Speaker 1: you were in North Dakota the last couple of days.
25:14
Speaker 1: I did, so we I think, you know, kind of
25:16
Speaker 1: as soon as uh, you know as their velvets getting
25:19
Speaker 1: ready to come off, or as there as their shedding
25:21
Speaker 1: velvet O. They're starting to actually work the ground and
25:24
Speaker 1: started making these scrapes and uh you know using them more.
25:27
Speaker 1: I think it's as a communication tool. But there were
25:29
Speaker 1: a couple of spots we had where scrapes were popping
25:31
Speaker 1: up that weren't there, you know, opening night and we're
25:34
Speaker 1: there two days later, early season in a western state
25:39
Speaker 1: on public land. What are the specific things that you're
25:42
Speaker 1: looking for when you set a tree stand right now,
25:45
Speaker 1: I'm looking for areas that aren't getting aren't getting hunting pressure,
25:48
Speaker 1: that are close to you know, usually bean fields are
25:52
Speaker 1: kind of the food source that I'm seeing also deer
25:54
Speaker 1: on and I'm trying to find areas that are secluded.
25:57
Speaker 1: So that's what we're really noticing, was area is that
26:00
Speaker 1: we're secluded, that we're back. You know, you couldn't see
26:02
Speaker 1: from the road, um where you could get in and
26:05
Speaker 1: there was no hunting pressure. We were seeing a lot
26:07
Speaker 1: of deer movement in areas like that. Besides beings, what
26:12
Speaker 1: other food sources are you looking for this time of
26:14
Speaker 1: year other than beings? You know there you know there
26:17
Speaker 1: are a lot of wheat fields that it seemed to
26:19
Speaker 1: me that as soon as they get cut, the deer
26:20
Speaker 1: were hitting up, and the wheat fields this time of year,
26:24
Speaker 1: especially in you know, areas like North Dakota are getting
26:26
Speaker 1: cut right now. So a fresh cut wheat field, you know,
26:29
Speaker 1: if that was we had a couple of spots like that,
26:31
Speaker 1: that would thought up to either some cattail sleues for
26:34
Speaker 1: betting or a standing cornfield something like that where he
26:38
Speaker 1: gave them still some cover, because the one thing with
26:40
Speaker 1: the cut wheat field is is you know, you have
26:42
Speaker 1: no cover at all, and so something like that can
26:45
Speaker 1: be definitely something key on when you're planning a hunt
26:48
Speaker 1: for September. This water factor in your decision making it all.
26:53
Speaker 1: It typically does. We have a couple of spots um
26:56
Speaker 1: one in particular, we're actually another guy killed and camp
27:00
Speaker 1: at night that's really close to a pond. We weren't
27:02
Speaker 1: hunting directly over it, but definitely if you can find
27:06
Speaker 1: a good water source, I find that to be pretty important.
27:10
Speaker 1: After spending about a week in North Dakota, what percentage
27:13
Speaker 1: of bucks would you say right now are still in velvet?
27:17
Speaker 1: I'd say probably only about most of the bucks I
27:21
Speaker 1: was seeing was we're already hard horned going forward. And
27:25
Speaker 1: then in the next week or so, what do you
27:26
Speaker 1: think that buck activity is going to be on a
27:28
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in North Dakota. I put
27:31
Speaker 1: it in about a five or six. The temperatures overall
27:35
Speaker 1: are going to be not bad, um compared to a
27:37
Speaker 1: year over year, as it will be the load of
27:40
Speaker 1: mid seventies. But after getting that initial cold front where
27:43
Speaker 1: it was down you know, today the high was fifty. Um,
27:47
Speaker 1: app is going to kind of go up from there,
27:49
Speaker 1: So I put it back down to about a five
27:50
Speaker 1: or six. All Right, Alex, we'll congrats again on the
27:54
Speaker 1: awesome book. Good luck for the rest of your season.
27:56
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, all right, appreciate it. Thanks Spencer,
28:01
Speaker 1: alright and joining us on the line. Next is Greg
28:03
Speaker 1: Ferrell from First Light in Kentucky. Now, Greg in Kentucky,
28:06
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been lately
28:08
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten. I would say
28:12
Speaker 1: where we were in Butler County, Um, it's probably been
28:15
Speaker 1: about a seven. Um. Right now, we've noticed that bucks
28:19
Speaker 1: are definitely still on the tail end of their summer pattern,
28:23
Speaker 1: so we're able to we were able to find them,
28:26
Speaker 1: UM and kind of hone in on them based off
28:28
Speaker 1: of those feeding patterns you know that you're used to
28:30
Speaker 1: seeing in these early fall, late summer months. So coming
28:33
Speaker 1: out into the fields, you know, still half an hour
28:37
Speaker 1: forty five minutes before dark. UM. So because of that, UM,
28:42
Speaker 1: the fact that they're still on some of those summer
28:43
Speaker 1: feeding patterns. UM, it's actually been been pretty good by us.
28:47
Speaker 1: You just arrowed a great buck last night. Tell us
28:49
Speaker 1: about that hunt. Yeah, So we were, UM, we kind
28:53
Speaker 1: of came in blind to this property that we're hunting
28:56
Speaker 1: this week. UM. We get in day before season opened,
29:00
Speaker 1: UM and did some scouting UM from a distance, basically
29:02
Speaker 1: through spotters and buyos UM. And then our kind of
29:07
Speaker 1: our game plan for this week, since we had never
29:09
Speaker 1: hunted this property, was to kind of play conservative um
29:13
Speaker 1: at least the first three days, UM, figure out what
29:15
Speaker 1: those d are doing. UM, then just kind of slowly
29:17
Speaker 1: chip away at them, you know, getting closer and closer
29:20
Speaker 1: to betting areas, UM, but doing so in a way
29:23
Speaker 1: that we weren't busting them out of there in the
29:26
Speaker 1: first first few days. So UM, this is kind of
29:28
Speaker 1: the culmination of that. UM. It was a buck we
29:30
Speaker 1: found the first night actually in a bachelor group, UM,
29:34
Speaker 1: when we were doing that scouting, and after this was
29:37
Speaker 1: the third sit, so basically just kind of moving closer
29:40
Speaker 1: and closer to learning about where they were coming out
29:42
Speaker 1: and kind of what they were feeding towards. UM, and
29:44
Speaker 1: eventually was able to get in the right tree, UM,
29:48
Speaker 1: slipping arrow in him at about forty yards. You mentioned
29:51
Speaker 1: that those deer still in the summer pattern. How much
29:54
Speaker 1: longer do you think that summer pattern is going to last?
29:57
Speaker 1: You know, where we are, I think you probably have
30:01
Speaker 1: maybe throughout this week, depending on you know, geographically where
30:05
Speaker 1: you're located, UM, in reference to where we are in Kentucky. UM.
30:10
Speaker 1: Really for us, we especially like Friday and Saturday. So
30:13
Speaker 1: Friday was scouting, Saturday was first Dave season UM, and
30:16
Speaker 1: both of those sits we were seeing a lot of
30:18
Speaker 1: bucks still in bachelor groups, definitely still in those feeding
30:22
Speaker 1: patterns UM, and kind of following the same script every night, UM,
30:27
Speaker 1: which you know is indication of of summer feeding patterns
30:30
Speaker 1: for sure. UM. But actually, interestingly enough, UM, a few
30:34
Speaker 1: days after that, a few of these bachelor groups that
30:37
Speaker 1: we had been watching UM started to lose one, two,
30:40
Speaker 1: three of those deer and break up UM. And then
30:43
Speaker 1: actually the deer that I shot last night, UM, he
30:47
Speaker 1: was actually fully solo last night, and when we recovered him,
30:52
Speaker 1: he was actually starting to lose some of the velvet
30:54
Speaker 1: on one of his side. So I think within the
30:57
Speaker 1: next probably five to seven days, UM, in the majority
31:01
Speaker 1: of the state, you're going to see that transition of
31:03
Speaker 1: deer off of that summer pattern into more of an
31:06
Speaker 1: early fall um range in pattern. With this being your
31:10
Speaker 1: first trip to the property, I assume that you threw
31:12
Speaker 1: up some trail cameras while you were there. Where are
31:15
Speaker 1: you focusing your trail cameras this time of year? Yeah,
31:20
Speaker 1: we definitely did UM. And like I said, our strategy
31:23
Speaker 1: because we had not set foot on this I mean
31:25
Speaker 1: we had we did a ton of e scouting UM,
31:28
Speaker 1: and we were pretty confident that we had both betting
31:31
Speaker 1: travel corridors and evening feeding pegged down UM, but without
31:36
Speaker 1: actually having hunted this property. We wanted to make sure
31:39
Speaker 1: that we had that figured out before we went trumping in.
31:41
Speaker 1: So what we tried to do is, UM, we put
31:44
Speaker 1: a bunch of cell cameras up actually UM on field
31:48
Speaker 1: edges as to not be intrusive UM, but kind of
31:51
Speaker 1: use it as like a confirmation on the data that
31:54
Speaker 1: we were finding during our hunts and scouting. UM. Now,
31:59
Speaker 1: as the hunt goes on, we still have UM one
32:01
Speaker 1: guy in camp with a tag UM. We're kind of
32:04
Speaker 1: changing our strategy, so we're getting a little bit more aggressive,
32:07
Speaker 1: moving in a little bit closer to where these bucks
32:11
Speaker 1: are betting, and we're moving our cameras with us as
32:13
Speaker 1: we do that. UM, not making specific trips into hang cameras,
32:17
Speaker 1: but as we're moving in through these areas to you know,
32:20
Speaker 1: do hanging hunts essentially every night, bringing those cameras in
32:22
Speaker 1: with us UM as a confirmation of that information. Besides beans,
32:27
Speaker 1: what are the food sources should hunters be focused on
32:29
Speaker 1: in Kentucky right now? Honestly, I would say beans would
32:34
Speaker 1: be the primary um by us. They're still green. I know,
32:38
Speaker 1: as we were kind of traveling to the property, UM
32:42
Speaker 1: we did see some fields that we started to turn brown.
32:44
Speaker 1: But with those those green um bean food sources, they're
32:48
Speaker 1: definitely honed in on those. UM. It seems like the
32:52
Speaker 1: areas that have corn UM it's more holding deer than
32:55
Speaker 1: they're hitting too hard. They seem to still be coming
32:57
Speaker 1: out of the cord and heading towards those beans. So,
33:00
Speaker 1: whether you have beans on your property or um a
33:03
Speaker 1: neighboring property, I would be focusing on understanding that those
33:07
Speaker 1: deer eventually want to be in those bean fields at night, um,
33:10
Speaker 1: while they're still green and before they're kind of browning up.
33:13
Speaker 1: Going forward, Then in the next week or so, what
33:15
Speaker 1: do you think that buck activity is going to be
33:17
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to tend in Kentucky, I
33:20
Speaker 1: would say you're going to see a drop from that,
33:22
Speaker 1: you know, like six seven like we've been seeing, um,
33:25
Speaker 1: probably down to you know, four's um, maybe even threes
33:30
Speaker 1: as those bucks kind of go a bit more nocturnal
33:33
Speaker 1: um and get into their solo um fall um kind
33:36
Speaker 1: of patterns, both feeding, betting, um, travel corridors, et cetera.
33:41
Speaker 1: All right, Greg, what congrats again on the awesome book.
33:44
Speaker 1: Good luck for the rest of your season. Thanks for
33:45
Speaker 1: joining me. Yeah, thanks for having me appreciate it. And
33:49
Speaker 1: that concludes the first episode of season five of rut
33:53
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33:57
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